The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast - The MacGruber Episode

Episode Date: July 29, 2024

This week, Will Forte and John Solomon take over the podcast! Joined by Seth and Jorma, the guys talk about how MacGruber was originally created, Will and John’s writing partnership, and the MacGrub...er sketches with Molly Shannon, Seth Rogen, and more!MacGruber (every episode)The FalconerPotato ChipJennjamin Franklin: Second Chance TheaterThe Date(Not all the clips we mention are available online; some never even aired.)If you want to see more photos and clips follow us on Instagram @thelonelyislandpod.Take the guesswork out of buying concert tickets with Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LONELY for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. Last minute tickets. Lowest Price. Guaranteed.Here's a special limited time deal for our listeners.Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/LONELY Produced by Rabbit Grin ProductionsExecutive Producers Jeph Porter and Rob HolyszLead Producer Kevin MillerCreative Producer Samantha SkeltonCoordinating Producer Derek JohnsonCover Art by Olney AtwellMusic by Greg Chun and Brent AsburyEdit by Cheyenne JonesMix and Master by Jason Richards

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast. We're doing a takeover today courtesy of Yormit Kony, who is joined by his two collaborators on MacGruber, Will Forte and John Solomon. Welcome, gentlemen. Thank you for joining us. It's a MacGruber takeover. Here's the song. Will, you should probably sing the song. -♪ MacGruber! Are you tired of hearin' about just the lonely island? We took over the podcast!
Starting point is 00:00:29 MacGruber! MacGruber takeover! It's a takeover of a podcast that is normally Andy and Akiba and Yorma. This is my ears. But now it's John Solomon and Wilfort and Yorma who's part of all of them. MacGruber! Yorma who's part of all of them. McRubber.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Yorma, do you want to introduce your collaborators? Yes, I do. One is the incomparably funny writer, director, friend, Johnny Solomon, who I've worked with forever. He's a brilliant man and he's got a hot, hot bod. He has collaborated with me for years on the hit show, MacGruber on Peacock. Previously to that, the movie MacGruber of same title.
Starting point is 00:01:17 And then also all the sketches. Okay, this is taking too long. And then also Will Forte. God damn it, yeah, Forte's here too. It's really good. So we are so excited. Will and John and Yorma did McGroober, which first aired in the Jeremy Piven show.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Now we've talked about the Jeremy Piven show because there was also a digital short that episode, but we kind of only glanced over McGroober. Before we begin, since Forte and Solomon, who have not been on the podcast yet, I'd like to do a little bit of backstory with your journey to SNL. Yes, so John Solomon, hot bod, in the gym, daily.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Oh boy. Brother. Met him early, aughts, I don't need to, okay. No, go ahead, you do it, Seth. Forte and Solomon, you guys met in college? Yeah, we met in, I think it was our sophomore year of college, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:06 We had two friends, Anne Hutchinson and Blenden back then, and Lisa O'Lay, and I don't know Lisa's current last name, but they were both friends who each knew us and said, we think you guys would really like each other. So they parent-trapped us and we all took a history class together, which at UCLA is like 500, 400 people. So then we took a discussion group together,
Starting point is 00:02:29 which is more like 20 people with our teacher, Jim Lickdee, and then that was it. Why did they think that you guys would be friends? What about the two of you? Is it just because you guys have the exact same vibe and have always had basically the exact same vibe of person? Yeah, I think we're just two generally kind of weird offbeat people.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Hot bods. Hot bods, yeah. Hot bods. I don't know if you know this because this is only going from here up, but John has like award-winning calves. Yeah, but interestingly, so does Seth. Yeah, Johnny and I, when we were walking around New York City hot time, summer in the city, when we were walking around New York City hot time summer in the city,
Starting point is 00:03:05 if we were both in shorts, car accidents. Yeah, yeah. And you can jump really high, right, John? Because you're a volleyball guy? Yeah, but I do get jealous of Seth's calves. He does have very big calves. I do. So Seth's calves are even bigger than yours?
Starting point is 00:03:22 I think they are bigger now, probably because you're probably still, are you still running? I'm still running. We'll throw some calf shots in the show notes. But I wanna ask a question. Couple of history dudes, sophomore year of college, do either of you at this time in your life think we're gonna do comedy for a living?
Starting point is 00:03:39 Not me. Not me, no, I was in film school. Will, well, no, Will, you had a little trajectory before you got into comedy, little financial trajectory. I don't know. Yeah, my dad was like a money manager slash stock analyst. So I thought, oh, I'll just do what my dad did. So I started working at Smith Barney Shearson as a cold collar.
Starting point is 00:04:00 But I didn't really take any acting classes. I took a drama class my sophomore year of high school, never did any plays. I did a scene night for that show. And then the only other thing I really did performance wise was I emceed our school's talent show my senior year with two other guys. And we just did a bunch of like Letterman rip off type things. I mean, they were our own original things,
Starting point is 00:04:23 but it was heavily influenced by Letterman stuff, like throwing cheese out to the audience and stuff. It was the exact opposite. I grew up in the theater. I don't think my father ever expected me to do one normal thing except for theater. And I got a job at his theater one summer, and I almost got fired because I made a dunce cap for myself that had the word focused on it really big.
Starting point is 00:04:43 And I would walk around to people and I would say, hey, is that a personal call? You sure you're okay? All right. And I almost got fired from that job. I feel like you should have got fired. Now, Will, so you lose some pension funds for some old ladies during your financial times.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Sure, sure. I know you left that out. And then John, you graduate college and what are you doing? Are you going to LA and trying to make it as a filmmaker? Before I went to SNL, I am in an ER filming trauma cases that come in with people extremely badly injured. What was the penis one? A guy was in a whole other pocket.
Starting point is 00:05:18 So wait, hold on. Before we explain the penis one, and obviously our listeners want us to get to that, so you're basically making sort of training videos, like videos of traumatic injuries that will be used later for the purposes of education for doctors? Yes, exactly. And do the people sign a waiver after? They do. Because I would imagine most of the time they're not conscious.
Starting point is 00:05:36 My job is to convince them to sign the waiver. Usually they do because I think they're kind of excited that they got filmed. Yeah, famous. But you were also on the camera, right? Yeah. And to get them to sign, would you say famous. But you were also on the camera, right? Yeah. And to get them to sign, would you say stuff like, this is going to break you, baby. That's right.
Starting point is 00:05:50 That's right. Listen, when people see that schlong getting operated on. All right, so let's hear about the penis injury you filmed. Quickly, the penis injury was a guy working in construction. This was in another country. I was in China, and I was filming a guy who got brought in because a construction wall that he was working on fell on him and ripped his urethra.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And so I followed his treatment and it was pretty intense. Now wait, so did this news break from China and they're like, we gotta get you on a plane or were you already there and it happened? Yeah, there's like a bat phone for penis injuries that I get flown all over the world. Now this is a dumb question and I'm sure you get asked all the time, is that phone shaped like a penis or not?
Starting point is 00:06:32 It's like a, they backed it off and they just did banana. They just did a banana phone. Everybody in the business knows what it's supposed to be. They know, they know. So you're doing great, you're living the dream over in mainland China, getting closeups. And the day I was, do you remember where we were, Will, when I was hired for SNL?
Starting point is 00:06:52 I was trying to figure out if I was gonna go to film in a military hospital in Iraq, and I was at lunch with Will and a man named Mike Shoemaker called Will. Do you remember that, Will? I don't remember, oh, oh, I kind of do. Where were we eating lunch? We were in Santa Monica and I was freaking out
Starting point is 00:07:08 because I didn't know if I wanted to do this because I was too scared. And Will gets a phone call, talks on the phone and just kind of throws out to me, oh, you're hired for SNL. Anyway, da da da da da da. And just, you know, pretends like it's nothing. But you had already been there for four years
Starting point is 00:07:22 at that point, Will. Yeah, yeah. Will, I will say my memory of this, Will, is you showed up at SNL. At this point, you were coming out of the groundlings. You had wonderful sketches in your first four years of the show, but you also were always banging the drum for your friend John Solomon,
Starting point is 00:07:38 who you thought should join the writing staff. And now it seems crazy it took four years, but I do think you have to be on the show for a couple of years before people actually listen to you in regards to staffing decisions. Yeah. But that's your memory too, Will. You were saying it from the beginning, like we got to hire John Solomon.
Starting point is 00:07:58 But also John, and John will even say this, didn't have a ton of credits or anything like that. So obviously, anybody who knows him knows how special he is as a writer and comedic force. But at that point, we've done the movie awards together, the MTV Movie Awards. And before this, what other stuff had you done, John? Comedy writing just stuck with you. But then at that time, I know there was a demand from Lauren for more penis injury sketches. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Yeah, we had sent them that tape. And it should note, you're like, what could be funny about that? You guys cut it together with some really good music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Benny Hill music. It really is like though, I mean, there were so many places where you would just have to go,
Starting point is 00:08:42 just trust me on this guy, I'm telling you. And then, begrudgingly, John would get hired and then become the indispensable person at this. Now, obviously, everyone knows what they got in John. But it's great. It's John. You're a very special, special writer. Well, thank you. And actor, he's a great actor too.
Starting point is 00:09:04 He is a great actor. You can see what John Solomon looks like in a very funny, I think you should leave sketch where he is upset that Tim Robinson doesn't know how to drive a car. That's right. That's one of my favorite recent John Solomon performances. Thank you so much. It's also the boss sketch is also very funny.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Yes. Thank you. With Patty Harrison, the boss sketch is very good as well. Thank you, guys. Now, Will, when you started the show, were you using John as a resource, even though he was not a writer in the show? Was he somebody that you would talk about sketches with?
Starting point is 00:09:31 Oh, all the time. And so then John joins the show. And do you form a friendship with Yorma pretty quickly? We met John as the Lonely Island professionally, because I would imagine socially it was maybe earlier. But hanging out at the movie awards was the first time we really got to get into John's comedic brain. That's right.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Yeah, we all knew each other before SNL. Yeah. Because we would go to Channel 101. Oh, that's right. In fact, I remember the year that Andy was considered as an actor, I remember I was on hold. They were not sure they were gonna bring me back. So I was like, I remember us all kind of going through
Starting point is 00:10:09 Andy's packet and kind of helping him as I was like, you know, hanging in the wind, not sure if I was gonna get brought back. And there was a little piece of me that's like, this guy? I'm helping this dude get in here. He's probably gonna take my slot. That does speak to what a generous soul you are, Will.
Starting point is 00:10:25 And also- I didn't wanna bring it up, but I mean- Yeah, you're a cool dude. You're a cool dude. Being on hold, I spent a summer on hold at SNL, and it is the weirdest thing in the world where they basically said, "'We're not gonna fire you outright,
Starting point is 00:10:39 "'but we are gonna spend the summer "'seeing if we can beat you.'" Yeah. God. How is it actually said to you? No, but it makes sense. They're like, we just were on the fence about you and we're going to have a ton of auditions. You can do the math.
Starting point is 00:10:54 It might have been the same summer because that summer was a really big summer of that stuff where they were trying to figure out which one. And in fairness, the show was a little, it was in that post-Will Ferrell zone, where they were still trying to find their groove. And then they found it when Andy and you guys came on, and Kristen and Bill and Jason, and, you know, all the members of that cast in the years before were fantastic,
Starting point is 00:11:22 but there was just something that really congealed once those other people came and kind of turned into this new thing, right? There was a very nice cohesion. And speaking of that cohesion, one night, it's January of 2007, someone has an idea. This should be noted, we're two decades post the show MacGyver, two decades plus.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Yeah, man. It's 07. You must have felt confident nobody else at the table was gonna have a MacGyver inspired sketch that way. Why do you hate nostalgia? You know what I mean? Like maybe it was the right time. I love nostalgia.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I just like pointing out. I don't want the listeners today being like, oh, well, of course they're doing a MacGyver thing. Nobody was thinking about MacGyver, but everybody remembered MacGyver. Did we talk about this in the Jeremy Piven episode? Because if we did, then I feel like Will or John should explain how.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Well, it was a bad pitch. That's what I'll say. It was a really bad pitch in the room by me. Yorama, I believe we spoke about how you kept pushing it and they kept saying no. Yes. I mean, the Jeremy Piven episode was maybe the fourth or fifth time that he had come to us trying to see if we would write it. Because Yorma would be in writing with Andy and Keeve all the time.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And then we started hanging out. He would come write with me and John every once in a while. So we would just have a standing date every week pretty much to try to write something. And he kept pitching this, you know, I have an idea for MacGyver's brother, MacGruber, who's just not as good. And we just kept telling him we didn't get it. Did it bother you that MacGyver's brother would have a different last name? Was that one thing that was frustrating to you?
Starting point is 00:13:02 Well, first of all, it was his stepbrother. So that solves that logic problem. Yeah, like there were no holes logic. So his mom divorced a guy named MacGyver and then remarried a guy named MacGroober? Yeah, the best part of this was how much more confusing it got when we eventually did a sketch with Richard Dean Anderson,
Starting point is 00:13:25 who is then MacGyver, and then we revealed that MacGyver is MacGroover's dad. So it got progressively more confusing as things went on. Did we say that his name is MacGroover MacGyver? Yeah, that's his. Yes, MacGroover was the first name. But anyway, in fairness to us, I think that the way you were pitching it at first was that it was just a live sketch,
Starting point is 00:13:49 and that it was doing all these elements just in a live sketch in front of the audience. So finally, he's pitched it enough. We just said, okay, he's just going to keep pitching this until we do it. So might as well write it, and it happened to be Piven who was the host. Then we all came up with the concept of we do it. So might as well write it. And it happened to be Piven, who was the host. And then we kind of all came up with the concept of the three short films together. And then
Starting point is 00:14:10 it made a lot more sense in our brain, I think. And every other digital short was not brought to the table. So this was very different. And to be fair, this wasn't a digital short. These were like its own standalone things. It was always like in threes, as Will said, you know, McGurb is trying to defuse a bomb, he can't do it, and then he explodes. And like, there was always a different issue that week. So he's an alcoholic this time, he gets progressively worse. And each little short film that we did would get progressively faster. So usually the first one was about a minute and a half, the next one was about a minute, the last one's like under a minute. And that was the format that we created from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:14:46 It was originally the very first joke was what I pitched to these guys, which is that MacGruber is using disgusting things to diffuse bombs. And every time he asks one of his two assistants to hand him something, it's something horrible that nobody wants to hand it to him. And that was the original format. And then as we wrote it and Will put his wonderful personality into the character, and we truly enjoyed working with each other,
Starting point is 00:15:10 I think that's when it slowly turned into something that we wanted to do again. I don't know if we, did we decide that we actually even wanted to do it again afterwards or were we kind of just thinking it was like a one-off? Like, okay, that was- I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so either. I feel like it got to the end. We were pleasantly surprised it was a one-off? I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so either.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I feel like it got to the end. We were pleasantly surprised it did a little better than we thought it would. I don't think that we got to the end of it and thought, that was a fucking hit. Yeah, definitely not. That went better than we thought. Then we just moved on and then a month later something happened. We said, what about a MacGruber on this?
Starting point is 00:15:45 And we're like, oh, okay. And then after doing the second one, then we started thinking, oh, we could, because the second one went pretty well, I remember. Yeah, the first one, and again, I think it's one of the problems with the things that recur is the audience doesn't know what to expect yet. So they're sort of learning for the first one,
Starting point is 00:16:02 and they only get excited for the second one when no one was saying, oh, great, a're sort of learning for the first one and they only get excited for the second one when no one was saying, oh, great, I'm a MacGruber on the first MacGruber. It does play kind of soft. It is dog shit, pubes, and then a bucket of bum semen. Right? Yeah. Yeah, classy.
Starting point is 00:16:16 That's right. Which I do remember, we may have spent two days discussing, is it bum sperm? Is it bum jizz? Is it? I like that it's not something different than the ejaculate from an unhoused person.
Starting point is 00:16:31 It was always gonna be ejaculate of an unhoused person. But it was, what do you call it? Yeah, and we went back and forth. The thing that you're talking about, Seth, of just the first time you see a sketch that's eventually gonna become a reoccurring sketch, we did have an advantage of breaking these into three because there's a theme song every time. So even on the first time it aired, there were still three of them that were granted very short,
Starting point is 00:16:55 but you're like, oh, okay, we're going to see another one of these and then we're going to see another one of these. So even by then you're like, okay, I guess it's this fucking guy, McCruber, who seems like a total mess of a person. I don't know if you guys all have a memory for this. Do you remember anything else the three of you wrote together that had aired pre-McGruber? Did, I don't think, did we? Falconers? Did we do Falconers?
Starting point is 00:17:15 Because we sort of take up that mantle after Leo and Alan. Right. Those were Sloven and Alan originally. Yeah, actually we might have written, Sloven and Alan were the two people who I wrote The Falconer with. In fact, Sloan was the person who actually came up with The Falconer. He was the Yerma of The Falconer. Love it. But yeah, then they moved on after a couple of seasons at the show.
Starting point is 00:17:36 So I'm not even sure because I know that Yerma put me in a couple of things, but I can't remember specifically something that we all wrote together that made it on. Maybe not made it on. We had definitely written before that. Yeah. Because we wrote a lot of things that we were writing for like 13 hours that never got picked. Classic.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Now, Will, I know you to be incredibly detail oriented. I love your writing so much. Your writing style to me is so divergent from the way I write, and yet I am in awe of the results. The funny thing about you saying no to Yoruma multiple times about MacGruber is all the things you said yes to. You know, right? Like, it's so funny to like know the things I saw you do at the table and the idea that you're like, hmm. That's a very, that's a very fair comment.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Because I sort of feel like you make crazy things work all the time. I also remembered, do you remember the sketch you did, Luge Yourself? Oh yes. It was a Luge sketch. Yeah. And you wrote it during the Winter Olympics,
Starting point is 00:18:40 maybe the oh, I'm gonna get it wrong, maybe the 02 Winter Olympics. And I just remember it was two guys and there was a song called Lose Yourself and it was two losers who were maybe breaking up and it didn't go. Were we losing as we're having the conversation? Were we losing?
Starting point is 00:18:57 I think you were losing during the sketch, yeah. And then in April, you came into my office and said, we're thinking about resubmitting Lose Yourself. And I in April, you came into my office and said, we're thinking about resubmitting, lose yourself. And I remember saying, but wasn't that for the Winter Olympics? And you were like, I don't think necessarily so. And I was very taken aback. And then you did a thing that I remember you often doing,
Starting point is 00:19:19 which is I said no, and then I heard you go one office over and ask whoever was there. You just, you did a lot of yes shopping. That's so forte. It was great. And then I even heard that person, which I think was T. Sean Shannon was like, it's April, man.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Never take no if it's funny. I mean, that's the thing is like, it's a hard job. You run out of ideas. It is a hard job. And then when there's something that was like so perfect for the show, like illusion. Can I give Will just a quick compliment, which is that I have never been around a person
Starting point is 00:19:58 who has cared more about comedy and the detail of comedy than Will Forte. There was a sketch that we wrote. about comedy and the detail of comedy than Will Forte. There was a sketch that we wrote. It's the date sketch where you're doing impressions and it keeps revealing that you guys are like, no, you're actually Australian and then maybe you're a spy. That goes on and on. It's a crazy logic sketch.
Starting point is 00:20:17 It just like eats itself over and over again. It's fucking amazing. And it was going to air. It was at the very end of the show. And what happens is at the very end of the show and what happens is at the very end of the show if for time like the show goes over which happens like constantly at the very end you could have two sketches and if one of them can get to time by cutting out certain lines and they have like you know this line is exactly five seconds is you go into the booth there's just you know all these television monitors and
Starting point is 00:20:41 it's very exciting it's live TV and you're in there as a writer and you're with and we were side by side with another team who's also trying to cut their sketch down to time and whoever gets to it, then it's like a sort of toss up of who's gonna be picked to actually make it to air. And I remember getting the sketch and like being like, okay, logically, you can go from this line right here, you can remove two and a half pages right here
Starting point is 00:21:00 and it still works, it still works. And looking at your face, Forte, and you being like, no, I can't do this. And I was like, this is the only time this is gonna air. This is the only time, it's so funny. It could be, and you're just like, I can't, I can't do it. And I was like, I was so impressed to have somebody who'd be like, I would rather have a- That fart joke needs to be there.
Starting point is 00:21:21 100%, just dedicated. John, I feel like you knew the way, and probably to this day, know the way needs to be there. 100%. Just dedicated. John, I feel like you knew the way, and probably to this day, know the way Will writes more than anyone. Yes. Did you know it before you were at SNL? Well, I did,
Starting point is 00:21:36 but I didn't realize that there were other ways until I got to SNL. You didn't think that every sketch had to be 15 hours of writing? Well, comedy sketch writing was something that Will knew and I didn't and he definitely taught me everything I know about sketch writing and then I would go on writing night, Will and I would be working for,
Starting point is 00:22:00 not exaggerating, six, eight hours on a sketch and someone would go in their office and come out, you know, three hours later. What are you doing? Lazy fuckers. And I started to go like, oh, huh. Did you feel betrayed because Will had been working there for four years?
Starting point is 00:22:16 Were you ever like, so you didn't wanna tell me there were kind of other ways? Honestly, it was like, oh, well, this is why Will's sketches are Will's sketches. Like this level of attention is what makes a Will's sketch. And I think people, you know, felt the same way. Support for Lonely Island comes from Babbel. Jorm, you're a world traveler.
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Starting point is 00:25:27 Come on everybody, it's game time! Very well done. John, do you remember an idea Will had for a sketch other than Gendrym and Franklin that wasn't ever going to work that he wouldn't let go of? It wasn't ever going to work. Or one that maybe didn't work that if it was up to you, you would have said, I think we can move on to the next one. But he had the siren call of trying to continue to make it work.
Starting point is 00:25:50 The thing that's coming to mind is potato chip, which did work. But when we'll pitch it to me, he just said, I just have this idea about this guy who wants to eat a potato chip. It's so funny. By the way, hear that. And then if you haven't, go watch Potato Chip and just realize that if somebody gave you that pitch and told you to write a billion sketches,
Starting point is 00:26:12 you would never have any overlap. Do you know what's crazy? There has been some talk about how long it takes me to write sketches. That was one where it was like seven in the morning. We had been up all night. I hadn't written anything yet. John was finally done with this other thing. Of course, the last thing he wants to do is
Starting point is 00:26:31 start writing something at seven in the morning, the day of the table read. But he came in and I had had this little nugget of an idea. I recorded it. Remember I recorded it on the phone, John. This little, don't eat my potato chip. Just 20 seconds of that, nothing about NASA, nothing about anything. We did a real pound out.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I think we might have written that in an hour and a half. I think our brains were so tired that we didn't have that censorship thing in our heads. We just let it go where it wanted to go. Yeah. Right? That was a pretty quick one from what I remember. Oh, wait, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:11 John, how long did it actually take? Well, I think that that's accurate, but I do remember the previous night, you would mention every few hours, you would mention it to me. I just kept going, obviously, I know you could make it funny, I have no idea what it is. Like, and then it was just, he obviously had an idea.
Starting point is 00:27:30 I will say, every time you went to Table for punching up scripts, the more normal the script was, the longer you tended to work on it. And when you would come in with a forte-driven sketch, and I remember doing this with you in particular when you were running your table, Seth. It would be like, go through it and the suggestions would be like, I guess you could change that part
Starting point is 00:27:51 if you wanted to, but you know, it's, yeah. But like the logic was so tightly its own that most people were just like, yeah, I think you're good to go. That is what it is. Yeah, there were some, and I don't think one is right or wrong, but like there are some writers who really use the table like, hey, I feel like I could be this,
Starting point is 00:28:08 I feel like I could be that. And it was like, I feel like you guys would bring in a completed house of cards. And the idea would be like, can we switch this Jack of clubs out for three of diamonds? You'd be like, don't do it. It's too, it's meant to be this. And I mean, I sometimes feel like it looked like laziness
Starting point is 00:28:25 because you guys come in and I'm like, if we're gonna say 10 things and you guys don't have to take any of them and then you can go. Do you remember, I think it's maybe the angriest I ever saw you at MeWill. It was about, and I feel like I hopefully I've rectified the situation
Starting point is 00:28:40 because the sketch was Gengemon Franklin and we have since produced it on late night. You can see it online, Second Chance Theater. Masterpiece. You had submitted it's a masterpiece. You had submitted Gengerman Franklin a good many times. And then Solomon came to my office one day and said, hey, what do you
Starting point is 00:28:58 think about resubmitting Gengerman Franklin? And do you remember what I said to you, John? Yeah, I absolutely do. You said, well, it kind of flatlined. and I was like, I'm gonna go with the way that I was thinking about it. And then I was like, I'm gonna go with the way that I was thinking about it. And then I was like, I'm gonna go with the way that I was thinking about it. And then I was like, I'm gonna go with
Starting point is 00:29:12 the way that I was thinking about it. And then I was like, I'm gonna go with the way that I was thinking about it. And then I was like, I'm gonna go with the way that I was thinking about it. And then I was like, I'm gonna go with the way that I was thinking about it. And then I was like, I'm gonna go with
Starting point is 00:29:24 the way that I was thinking about it. And then I was like, I'm gonna go you guys remember when we wrote, it was all three of us, and we wrote the sketch where you play a naked sushi platter? You know that thing in Japan where there's occasionally a lot of nude women in particular. I'm assuming they have men too, but this was Forte as a nude man with sushi all over his body for a party. And he's proposing to his girlfriend, who is, I believe, Scarlett Johansson, and he has wasabi under his balls and there's a ring in it. And I remember writing it for, it felt like honestly we wrote it for 10 hours. And from the moment you pitched it, Forte, I was like, this is not going to be on the show. And was like, I love you so much,
Starting point is 00:30:07 and love writing this with you so much. I mean, there were definitely hours in there that I was like, what are we doing? Why are we spending this much time on this? But I was also like, well, this is one of the funniest things I've ever worked on. So I don't remember that one. That's even better. You don't remember that one. Oh, that's even better. You don't remember that one.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Two things I remember. One time I heard Forte in an office spending a lot of time trying to decide if it was funnier to say don't or do not. And another time, I can't remember the sketch, but you wrote the word both with an L in it. Both. And that's not what the sketch was about,
Starting point is 00:30:43 but you kept saying both. Yeah. And it was not, the sketch was about, but you kept saying both. Yeah. And it was not, I remember it was at the table and it wasn't really playing, but every time you said both, like every comedy writer in the room just was so tickled. And it certainly wasn't enough to sustain a sketch, but I think we were all just sort of in awe
Starting point is 00:31:03 of this like tiny piece of just like, I don't know, artifice on top of the sketch of both. I sometimes just find myself saying both. Can we talk about though that the level of comedy in the sketch writing didn't just stop at the sketch writing. We were right across the hall from Forte as the lonely island, right? So our little place was right next to like the big table where all the table reads happened and then right across from us was Forte. So there were moments where you would be so unbelievably frustrated because I believe, I don't know like how this happened, but as an example,
Starting point is 00:31:37 John bet Forte that he could only listen to one song for an entire year and that he could only listen to one song for an entire year. And he would play this song very loudly on his computer, which is Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Touch and Go. That song, which is in MacGruber, and I remember at the end of the year, he had played it like 450, like something like, it was over 400 times. And that's funny, ha ha ha. But when that's across the hall from you
Starting point is 00:32:11 and every time you hear it, you're like, oh my God! But that's just sort of the tip of the iceberg of what Forte, I felt like, brought to the halls of SNL. Ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta. Will, will you do me a favor? I want you to read it the way you want it performed, and then we can decide later if it's worth keeping in. But if you go into the chat, Kevin has found Hockey Date,
Starting point is 00:32:34 a sketch the three of you wrote for Julia Louis-Dreyfus. Do you have any memory of Hockey Date, Will? I don't. Okay. So I'm going to read Julia and you read Will, okay? I'm first on here. you read Will, okay? I'm first on here. That means it was my idea, apparently. I think so.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Solomon, do you have any memory of hockey date? Very vague. Okay. Okay, I have it up, I have it up. Okay, here we go. Hockey date, open on hockey arena, Will and Julia, Julia and Louis Dreyfus, take their seats. Will is wearing a Chicago Blackhawks jersey
Starting point is 00:33:03 with the Indian head logo. Thanks for inviting me. I've never been to a hockey game before. Pam, calm down. Relax. You can just call it a game. Okay. Well, this is my first game. See, that wasn't so hard. I guess I'm a little nervous because I heard sometimes people get hit by hockey pucks. Are you going to do that all night, Pam? Because if you are, I'm going to ask you to go home right now. What did I do? It's not a hockey puck.
Starting point is 00:33:29 It's just a puck. You don't have to throw the word hockey in front of everything. We're at a hockey game. It's understood. This is not a hockey beer. It's just a beer. These are not hockey docker slacks. They're just docker slacks.
Starting point is 00:33:44 So you're going to start thinking before you speak. Are you gonna turn this into the worst blind date I've ever had? I'm sorry, I'll try harder. Yeah, I hope you do. So how'd you become a Blackhawks fan? Well, I grew up with a pet hawk and it was black. Really?
Starting point is 00:34:00 Pam, I grew up in Chicago. That's why I'm a Blackhawks fan. This is going to sound silly, but I always thought the Blackhawks logo is a little, you know, politically incorrect. No, you're right. You're right. That does sound silly. Sounds like something a silly little girl would say.
Starting point is 00:34:17 So you don't think it's racist to use the face of a Native American as your mascot? Racist? It's a tribute. We have the utmost respect for the Blackhawk tribe, and we would never demean them. Ooh, here they are! Woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo Would cheer be any more offensive? Well, I guess the answer is yes, since there is not even one shred of offensiveness in there. Chanting how over and over. You're acting like a real jerk. How can you say that?
Starting point is 00:34:52 Oh, so you use the word how and it's fine, but when I use it, suddenly I'm a racist. I am a curator for a Native American museum, so I think I'd know what is or isn't offensive. Hey, fat ass lady, bring me some candy. By the way, Pam, I'm going to need some ducats for the candy I spent all my money on the tickets, which to this point has not been worth it at all. You're so I'm not paying for your candy. Then you are banned from my Native American Museum. I don't believe you're a curator of anything.
Starting point is 00:35:24 I mean, name me one fact about Native Americans. I'll name three, Pam. One, Native people use every part of the animals they kill. Pam. Two, not one morsel is wasted in the process. Pam. Three, that includes the scalp. Pam.
Starting point is 00:35:40 If you ask me, it's a real lesson in conversation, just like this date. That's supposed to mean... It means that because of your level of intelligence, I'm able to conserve a lot of brain power when talking to you. How dare you! There you go again! What the hell? You and your friggin' double standards make me sick.
Starting point is 00:36:00 It's not the same thing. You know, there's a movie I think you should watch sometime. It's called Dances with Wolves, and I think it would do you a lot of good to see it. In fact, I'd be very interested to see it with you, because I've never seen it, and I hear it's quite good. And after that, maybe we could rent Ghostbuster. That's also on my list. You know what?
Starting point is 00:36:22 Maybe this could work out. Getting a much better vibe from you now. Maybe it's just the fact that you shut up for a second and I'm enjoying that. Well, whatever the reason, I think it could work out between the two of us. Okay, that's it. I'm leaving. You're a terrible person. Pam, wait.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Look, I've had a really, really, really wonderful time with you tonight. And just because you're ignorant, super boring, and a smidge above butt ugly, and your breath smells like caches, it is awful. You have the worst breath. Anyway, just because of all those four things that I hate about you doesn't mean that I don't want to do you a bunch of times tonight in the back of my car. And that statement is not as seedy as it sounds because I live in my car. What do you say? What do I say? What do I say?
Starting point is 00:37:07 I say I just found love in the most peculiar place. I've honestly been revolted by everything you've said to me tonight, but then when I tried to leave, I couldn't. Something stopped me. I mean, maybe it's because you handcuffed me to the seat. But I could have chewed through my arm, but I didn't. Maybe that's because I'm a world-renowned potter and I need my arms to create my world-renowned cereal bowls.
Starting point is 00:37:24 But maybe it's more than that. Maybe it's because I'm a world-renowned Potter and I need my arms to create my world-renowned cereal bowls. But maybe it's more than that. Maybe it's because I'm 160 Blackhawk. Or maybe it's because my nickname is Backseat Bertha slash BAM! Or maybe it's because I put that roofie in my own drink, whatever the reason. I do want to get nailed by you in the backseat of your car slash house tonight. What do you say?
Starting point is 00:37:41 What do I say? I say get out of my face. You're coming on way too strong. All I want is a little romance here, not some ho bag. So goodbye, backseat birther, Pam, or whatever your name is. Looks like you'll be dating your fingers tonight. And we'll be dating. What is your name, ma'am? Cut to Kristen Wiig.
Starting point is 00:38:00 It's Pam. Great. So I guess that temporary penis tattoo still works. See you later, other Pam. So Pam, you ever seen Ghostbusters? Because your tremendous rack makes the ghost in my pants want to bust through my docker slacks. Now come give me a little make out.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Will and Wig make out Ghostbuster theme. How did that not get picked? Wow. I mean, I think it went to dress. What? I think it maybe did. Did it? I mean, based on everything I know about a dress on you,
Starting point is 00:38:30 Sid SNL, they were very upset right away at how mean Will was being to the love of Julie Louis-Dreyfus. I'm excited that Julia was like, yeah, that sounds great. Yeah. Let's do that one. That is horribly offensive and pretty fun to read. It was real top to bottom. How quickly into MacGruber the sketch do you decide that the theme song is going to be
Starting point is 00:38:54 an integral part of it? That was from Jump, right? I don't know that we ever realized in the first one. I just remember thinking, yeah, it'll be a good framing device to have the theme song. But I didn't know that I ever thought, like, just everything was a surprise about the first one. It was just like, oh yeah, okay, we'll do this, we'll do this. We didn't overthink it too much.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Looking back now, it's like a tremendously important part. The theme song isn't changing in the first one. You're right. I think it's shorter each time. It's just getting shorter each time, yeah. Yeah, but it's not actually giving you story changes. So yeah, did you guys rewatch it today? Yeah I didn't I didn't I was surprised how tiny the dogshit was. Yeah Yeah, wait who wrote the theme song? I forget. I mean, I think we all wrote the lyrics But no, but Catrice Catrice actually made the song. Yeah. Shout out to Catrice and rest in peace.
Starting point is 00:39:45 She was the unbelievably talented person who also did Dickens Box with us and she was just the best. She was the best. Trace Spines. Do you remember what the second MacGruber was? Because it's on my rewatch list of one of my favorite MacGrubers to watch and one of my favorite Will Forte performances of all time. What is the second one?
Starting point is 00:40:03 Molly Shannon? Yeah. Thank you. I do time. What is the second one? The Molly Shannon? Yeah. Thank you. I do remember that it was the alcohol one. That's the second one that aired? Is the alcohol one? Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:40:12 I love that one. McGroober! Making life-saving inventions at our household material. McGroober! Getting in and out of a vultristic-y situation. McGroober! He's 15 years sober. McGroober! He's 15 years sober.
Starting point is 00:40:25 McGroober! Holy smokes, McGroober, there's no way out! That's not our only problem, McGroober. That dirty bomb's gonna detonate in 15 seconds. Alright, everyone keep it together. Okay, if we're gonna get out of here, and we are gonna get out of here, we need to focus up. Ten seconds!
Starting point is 00:40:43 What do we do, McGroober? Casey, hand me that beaker. You got it, MacGruber. April, I need exactly four ounces of tomato juice. On the way, MacGruber. Casey, hand me that celery. Celery, check. Okay, does anybody see any Tabasco sauce? Uh...
Starting point is 00:40:56 MacGruber, are you making a drink? What's up? The Dress! I feel like a dress, there was a way longer version, and I kind of wish I could get my hands on it, because you were just kind of eating a hamburger What's up? The Groover! I feel like a dress there was a way longer version and I kind of wish I could get my hands on it because you were just kind of eating a hamburger as it was falling apart and answering Molly's questions
Starting point is 00:41:12 and she was off camera and it's one of my faves. Yeah, Will, one of the best food eating actors, like any scene where there's something that Will has to eat, like Vinny Vadeci, right? You used to just eat spaghetti. Oh, yeah. And the way you eat that burger is really expert. I mean, I think Brad Pitt's our greatest dramatic eater,
Starting point is 00:41:32 and Forte's our greatest comedy eater. Thank you. He's the Brad Pitt of comedy eating. Is Brad Pitt a well-known dramatic? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. I feel like, yeah, he's kind of the guy. You can probably find a super cut of Brad Pitt eating.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I feel like the first time I noticed it is maybe Ocean's Eleven. Yeah. He's kind of eating throughout that movie in a way that's really fun to watch. Oh, wow. Okay. Then you have sort of Jeremy Piven and you have Molly Shannon. Then I feel like Seth Rogen shows up. He's sort of tailor-made for MacGruber.
Starting point is 00:42:03 He's like close enough in our age, has probably the same nostalgia for MacGyver, is in on the joke. Another one I really enjoy watching and speaks to how quickly MacGruber heightened to a different thing. Do you remember which one Seth Rogen was, Forte? I don't. I mean, I remember, I have an image in my head of what he looked like
Starting point is 00:42:19 in the control room, but I can't remember. He wasn't, that was not the plastic surgery one. It was, yeah. Oh, it was, okay, yes, okay. This is MacGruber's concerned about aging. And first of all, the thing I remember about this one that I love so much is in order to make yourself seem younger, you keep saying things are tight.
Starting point is 00:42:40 You keep enthusiastic saying like, isn't that so tight? Yeah. Isn't it? It's tight, right? So tight. That's in response to him turning on Maya and Seth and calling the mom and dad in front of his new girlfriend
Starting point is 00:42:55 who has gotten tickets. It's Wig plays. Wig who's gotten tickets to a Dave Matthews band concert. And so I think the run of this, the three act structure of this one is maybe the first one he's wearing a bandana and then it falls off and you see that his hair is super thinning, right?
Starting point is 00:43:13 Yeah. McGroober! He's getting kind of old now and that makes him uncomfortable. McGroober! He might go get some work done. McGroober! The mind door is sealed shut, McGroober.
Starting point is 00:43:28 That's not our only problem, McGroober. Once this hydrogen meter reaches critical, this baby's going to blow. OK, this is no time to panic. You're in good hands. I've been doing this all my life for over 44, excuse me, 37 years in October. So I'm 36.
Starting point is 00:43:41 But I think if you were to ask most people on the streets, they'd probably say that. 15 seconds! Right, time to focus. Casey, hand me that copper wire. You got it, McGroober. Caleb, that feather. Got you, Groobs.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Casey, cup! Right here! Okay, great. Now if I can just bypass this detonator, I'll... Ooh, ooh! Look behind you! Look behind you! There are things I need back there. Just turn around.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Just whatever you see, whatever you find, just pick them up and give them to me. Okay, okay. I found this cocking putty. Here's a battery. Okay, okay. You just hang on to those. I think I have everything that I need over here.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Thank you, though. Two seconds, MacGruber. Okay, that's more than enough time for me to tie this bandana back on and then defuse. MacGruber! Second one all of a sudden, and this is what was so wonderfully absurd about McGruber because they're trapped in something but also in this one his girlfriend is there. His very young girlfriend. Just walk there.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Some collagen injections and a buttload of hair plugs. McGruber! He's never felt better about himself! McGruber! I've tried everything McGruber I won budge, I think it's soldered shut. From the looks of this pipe, if we don't work fast, pretty soon our bodies are going to be soldered shut too. Don't worry, we will get out of here.
Starting point is 00:44:54 I have a four o'clock appointment at the Miata dealership and I do not plan on breaking that. Fifteen seconds! What are we going to do McGroober? Okay first, quick introduction. Everyone this is Taylor. Hi. I met her at a hookah bar in Marina Del Rey. 25, just go. MacGruber, 10 seconds.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Okay, let me, uh, diffuse this bomb here. Check this out. Mom, hand me that bottle cap. On the way, MacGruber. Dad, hand me that band-aid. Okay, son. Oh, my God, Randy got us tickets to see Dave Matthews in concert tonight.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Oh, that's tight. That's so tight. Mom, don't you think that's tight? Dad? Isn't that tight? Come on. You got to at least think that's a little tight, huh? No? Oh, I guess Taylor and I are the only ones who think this. McGroover! And then this is what became so fun about McGroover.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Everybody knows how it's gonna end. And there was the fun of where will the explosion come? You know, at some point, like, it's like a Pop Goes the Weasel situation. You know it's gonna happen, but it's like without the music of the song, Pop Goes the Weasel. And then it's one of my favorite endings of MacGruber,
Starting point is 00:46:01 which is you've gotten some work done. And now the song is explaining the beat a little bit. MacGruber! His surgeon cut him off, so he flew to South America. MacGruber! Turns out the medical standards are a lot more latched down there. MacGruber!
Starting point is 00:46:16 He regrets it with every fiber of his being. MacGruber! Dad, MacGruber was trapped! That bunker buster is set to go off in 15 seconds. What do we do, MacGruber? Casey, hand me that screwdriver. Here you go, MacGruber. Caleb, toss me that paperweight. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Casey, hand me that mirror. Okay? Casey, hand me that mirror. Uh, I don't know, Mr. Gruber. You want me to defuse this bomb or not? Yeah, but... The mirror! Just give him a mirror, Joe. It's not so bad. It's a completely different tone of any MacGruber because you're looking in a mirror and Seth and Maya are super concerned and it's got sort of like horror music.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Like opera. Opera. So we all know, the audience knows that you've gotten some really gnarly plastic surgery done. He's a monster. He's a monster. But then of course the genius turn you guys came up with is you turn around, just a disaster.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Your face is a disaster. Yeah. And you're pretty, you think,. Your face is a disaster. Yeah. And you're pretty, you think you basically have a big smile and you go, no, it's pretty good. It's not so bad. It's not so bad. That's what I'm saying. Hand me that mirror.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Yeah, he's got semi shitty plastic surgery on the second one, right? And then in the first one, we also establish that he has a 3 p.m. appointment at the Miata dealership or something like where we established- He's a midlife crisis. Yeah. We established that that's going to be MacGurber's car when later we make a movie about it.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Oh, I didn't know that. There's a Miata reference in- That's why he's into Miatas. I think that when we were writing the movie, that's how we came up with that. And I would almost certainly say that I probably pitched it because meottas were in my- Oh, for sure. I had a college girlfriend who had a meotta, so in the back of my head,
Starting point is 00:48:33 it just seemed like a reference that would always come up. I'd always pitch meottas. I remember when I was whatever age, meottas were a thing. My dad had a friend who had a Miata dealership and my dad said we can go down and he'll let us take it for a test drive. And I remember driving around Manchester, New Hampshire with my dad in a Miata and thinking without irony,
Starting point is 00:48:56 this is as good as it gets. It's as cool as it gets. I think I felt better that day than I felt any successive day in show business. Post success. I'm like, I'll never have that feeling of the wind through my hair and a cherry red Miata. By the way, they're really big in stock car racing. I went to randomly a stock car race, you know, like Formula One style, it's this big cool looking track. And there's like 30 Miata's, they're very easy cars to like soup up and make into
Starting point is 00:49:26 stock car racing. And I was like, we should take the Miata that after the movie, we sort of convinced Will that we should buy the Miata and me and John were also supposed to pitch in for it, but I don't think we ever did. So Will bought the Miata and we had it forever in his garage. And I was like, we should turn it into a stock car race, like trick it out,
Starting point is 00:49:47 make it look like McGroover's actually driving stock cars now. And then he would just always come in last and I always put on his turn signals and just get lapped like a million times and just go around the country doing stock car races as McGroover. Really good. But Will sold it to charity and was very kind to the Boys and Girls Club of Venice. Yeah, I just recently for the Pangea Network, we auctioned off the car and this guy bought it for 55 grand.
Starting point is 00:50:14 So the car had been sitting in my backyard, or it was on the lot after we did the show, it had just been sitting there on the lot. So they had it towed to my place and then I had to do a million different things to get it up and running. I did several times, they had to drive it through the city. It is that experience you're having,
Starting point is 00:50:38 it's like a pretty fun car to drive around, but it also has all the writing on it and penis drawings and stuff like that from the TV show. So it's. And also you, I mean, I think the biggest detail is you also played McGroober. It's a little bit like seeing Adam West in the Batmobile. Yes. Yeah. If you're in L.A. and you see a dude in their car from their show, your first thought
Starting point is 00:51:02 isn't they're crushing it. You're like, oh, no, I guess that's all there is. That's so cool. Look at that, he's driving the car from the show. I go, no. It was really fun. So part of the deal was if the Miata went over a certain amount of money, I would go hand deliver it.
Starting point is 00:51:21 And so I went out, they live outside Dallas, and I flew out there and actually spent the whole weekend with them, had a really fun time. And we taught his son to drive a stick shift in the Miata that weekend. And we even, I brought the MacGruber outfit and we made him wear the clothes. So he was such a good sport. He had the clothes on and the freaking wig So he was such a good sport. He had the clothes on and the freaking wig, and he's just driving around, picked up a stick shift like that.
Starting point is 00:51:51 He was amazing, but it was a very fun experience. What a weird way to learn how to drive stick. With a dude from his prop car. By the time you did the plastic surgery, Midlife Crisis McGroober, at that point, do you feel like, oh, we love doing these and this now feels like a hit? I don't know if I ever felt like it was a hit, but we definitely loved doing it and the character,
Starting point is 00:52:17 I remember just falling. Listen to that Blackhawk sketch, you're like, this is just a Will Forte character. It's just a pretty shitty detailed dude being shitty. But it was so fun to write, and each time there'd be a new game that we were playing with, it was more and more fun to do, I would say. I would say that it seemed like it was always very surprising.
Starting point is 00:52:40 It seemed like every time we did it, it seemed like, oh, that's great. That's probably the last time we'll do that. And then I think it was after the Seth Rogen one that then it started being a thing where Lauren would actually come to us and say, okay, I want you to do a MacGruber. Before it would just be, oh, that'd be a fun thing to,
Starting point is 00:52:57 you know, it was kind of on our terms. And then it became a thing, which was a very nice thing to have Lauren want something from you, but then it also put the pressure on you a very nice thing to have Lauren want something from you, but then it also put the pressure on you because sometimes, you didn't have an idea really necessarily ready to go, and then you'd have to come up with something,
Starting point is 00:53:13 and that was a different stress, but also an honor to have the boss want some. I think that maybe there is a, I don't know, Lauren has this reputation and maybe people think, oh, there's sort of things I bet he liked and sort of things he didn't like. Lauren loved MacGruber. I think he loved the thought and craft you guys put into it.
Starting point is 00:53:33 And historically, he doesn't like runners. He doesn't like a thing that's in a show three times. But he was a huge fan of MacGruber. And I remember there was a MacGruber in the Sarah Palin episode, which was, I think, you know, one of the most watched episodes ever. And I always thought that that was a real compliment, Lauren, compliment to you guys. Although it was funny because like a lot of people who never watched the show watch that show. And I remember once a friend of Alexi's dad saying like, oh, what the fuck was that MacGoober? BOTH LAUGHING
Starting point is 00:54:11 Thank you, MacGoober boys, for joining us. Forte, the sun is up in Australia. We're going to release you to your project. You guys are awesome. I love you all. Thanks for the MacGoober takeover. Always fun being with you three gentlemen. You're three of my favorite people in the world. So love you guys and sorry, I'm a little, it's the morning here.
Starting point is 00:54:30 So I'm still waking up. Love you. Bye. Bye guys. Okay. Goodbye. Love you guys.

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