The Luke and Pete Show - A legacy act without a legacy

Episode Date: April 18, 2024

This week the lads give a full Coachella review and ultimately conclude that Blur's really not for them. Elsewhere, Luke reminisces on his wild surf-style upbringing fuelled by twisted jeans and Red O...r Dead t-shirts and Pete gets a lesson in broadcasting 101.Plus, Donny has the ultimate care update!Want to get in touch with the show? Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow. Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:38 It's the Luke and Pete Show. A very good morning to you. This is Thursday, 8th of April, and we are cracking on through April. The weather's getting cold, then it's getting hot, then it's getting rainy. We've had hailstones today. But the most important weather stroking
Starting point is 00:00:59 is the weather stroking that's going on with my car outside. Lukey Moore, I'm proud to announce my Toyota Century is on the road with Reg Plates. It is absolutely fantastic news. It's been a long journey. It's been a long road. Did you feel like it was worth it?
Starting point is 00:01:15 Probably not. When I get into that car and I can smell the dirty old, fag-ridden sort of floor mats and and the slight i bet you feel like don henley don't you kind of egg on when i'm bouncing down that road with a light on my dashboard that says no traction control i feel like a real winner lukey it's definitely worth it then. I think it is. I think I've already spent way too much money on it. So I'm, I fare, I think I should be drawing a line sooner rather than later
Starting point is 00:01:51 on this sorry project. It's one of those ones where you go in, in for a penny and you can't stop. Exactly. You're chasing your losses when the fun stop stops and all that. It's like waiting for a bus, isn't it? Like you've waited 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Yeah, may as well. I live here now. Yeah. I went to, speaking of i went for buses uh couldn't for some reason the the overground wasn't working today so i went via climb house which was a new journey for me why don't you drive the century in um because i got it road i got it roadworthy i got the reg plates on at 11 o'clock last night i got it off that man's poor that poor man's driveway at about 11 o'clock last night because i had other things on and then um i sort of i sort of cruised
Starting point is 00:02:30 around the local area in my bouncy little car you'll get on a register if you will get on a register if i kick car like that and i thought you know what i've not had enough sleep this isn't the time i'm not 100 that if this car stops it's going to start again so because of the battery so um i thought i'll uh i'll leave it for maybe i'll pop in on friday you're on the you're on the ramble on friday maybe you'll see it on friday i think i am yeah so i'll see you then i am i love the idea of you breaking down in the in the big century yeah on like regent street yeah it wouldn't be it wouldn't be ideal. It would be confusing. Just on the mobile phone standing outside
Starting point is 00:03:06 looking flustered with smoke coming out the bonnet. That would be amazing. I have like a wire coming out of the centre console. Hello? I've travelled here from the 80s. But you're pleased with the purchase
Starting point is 00:03:17 and you think it's a pretty worthy investment. I think it's a banger. I can't get the writing they've written on the window off. But I think it's a banger. I don't know what they've... I think they might have used some kind of bonnet marker. Is it like the windscreen?
Starting point is 00:03:30 Yeah, they've written, like, goo net, which sounds, like, a bit sexual. But it is, I assure you, it's a Japanese car auction site. Yeah, goo net they've written on the front. And I've tried wiping it off. It won't come off. Is the partner you've got access to still frustrated by it? Or has she accepted it now?
Starting point is 00:03:49 I don't know. I think there's a part of her heart that sort of goes, you know what? That isn't the worst looking car you've ever seen. It's got weird little wing mirrors on the bonnet, for crying out loud. It smells of fags. My favourite smell, she says, in my mind.
Starting point is 00:04:03 You've got to send a video for the Luke and Pete show family to view driving it. Bouncing around. Have you had any people... It's like Flat Eric. Do you like the video of Flat Eric? Yes, I do. Do I know Flat Eric? Who are you talking to? Are you a man of Eric? I used to love Levi's twisted jeans.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I used to wear them all the time. I remember twisted jeans. That's what it was for, wasn't it? Oh, God. Wasn't there there high waistband jeans as well? Wasn't that a thing for a little while? Not for boys. The twisted ones, I used to have about four pairs of them. I used to love them. I love that you were part of this.
Starting point is 00:04:35 It's like suddenly finding out that you're... What are those headphones you buy at the airport? Jelly something. Oh, skull candy. Skull candy. headphones you buy at the airport jelly something you know like skull candy skull candy and uh it just like mark bought some skull mark hens and wrestle me bought some skull candy um uh headphones a couple of years ago for wrestlemania uh at the airport and i was like mark i had no idea you were part of the skull candy universe i had no idea you're a skull candy man but i had no idea look
Starting point is 00:05:00 that you're a you're a twisted gene twisted pairs i used to be, back in the late 90s, I used to be slim. Twisted pairs, I think, might be something to do with Cat5 Ethernet cable. Apologies. Twisted jeans. I used to be slim, Levi's twisted jeans, really skin tight, like Red or Dead t-shirt. Red or Dead? Yeah. Didn't they make shoes for ladies?
Starting point is 00:05:24 Wasn't that Red or Dead they probably do a lot of it I think it would be a surfing brand maybe right okay because I'm from the south coast aren't I so it was all part of that
Starting point is 00:05:31 is that because oh god did you have beads in your hair and stuff no did you play the acoustic guitar did you play some Jason Mraz
Starting point is 00:05:38 on your acoustic guitar in front of a bonfire on the beach no I would definitely have been present in that kind of scenario right okay um interesting were you mad into the sweet ganja well i mean it was the 90s what can i say 90s what can i say if you remember i can i can remember um that we used
Starting point is 00:05:58 to have like bonfires down the beach quite a lot right right and um particularly obviously in the summer where say if it was cows week the big sailing week over in the isle of wight you could see that from where i grew up right because i because the the seafront near where i grew up was overlooking the isle of wight through a fog of weed smoke well and we used to i can remember once right we used to go down there get a fire going and that's that and um i remember being it's in the evening i was about to go out head out there and my old man stopped me before i left the house i was a couple of mates we're just gonna walk down there because by that point i was about 18 and we'd moved to a nicer house
Starting point is 00:06:33 and it was quite near the beach and um my old man was like oh are you going down the beach are you gonna have a fire and i was like yeah and he's like right your mom's gonna be back home from work in like an hour i just need you to do something with me i was like, right, your mum's going to be back home from work in like an hour. I just need you to do something with me. I was like, okay, what's that? He took me into the garage and he made me, he made me, um, saw up a bed that my mum had told him to get rid of. Right. Right. And then he told me to take it down the beach and set fire to it.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Nice. Okay. And use that as the firewood, but don't tell my mum. Okay. So anyway, I did that. Took it down there. How did you take an entire bed i just put in the back of the car it was so you're driving a little bit and um drove it down
Starting point is 00:07:11 there right and um it was all fine it was like the perfect crime and i don't know if it was illegal to have bought fires down the beach at that point blood stains on it blood stains on it no no what happened was are you an accomplice to a murder that your dad perpetrated? That's the question. I haven't asked. I could ask. Yeah. But anyway, this is the thing, it was a perfect crime, right? Until my friend Penny was trying to show off to some girls down there.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Right. And he started trying to... He set fire to one of the bedsteads. So he had like a torch. Right. And he was balancing it on his chin. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And a firelighter and piece of wood fell off the torch and landed on his face okay i gave him a big burn on his cheek right yeah and um then a long story short one thing led to another he had to go to the a and e and get it all patched up he's fine he was fine i mean it's only about two inches from his eye, so it wasn't ideal, but he was fine. But then what happened was his mum mentioned to my mum that it had been balancing like a bed frame on his chin. My mum starts putting two of them together. It's like Kaiser Sosa at the end of Usual Suspect. Me and my old man get an absolute bollocking
Starting point is 00:08:20 for basically illegally setting fires to the bed when we were both just supposed to take it to the tip and we never got around to it. So's what that's what that reminded me of peter we used to fires down the beach all the time and that's where the song what do you do when your beds are burning exactly what was that terrible band do you know what is the most depressing thing about it is that um i think the the kind of soundtrack to those kind of days not my decision yeah but the soundtrack to those days. The Blind Melon.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Not even that cool. It was like Californication era. Yeah, it was that kind of thing. Do you know what? Do you know what I was thinking about? I was watching The Dog earlier, and I was coming back, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:08:58 do you remember the Confrontation of the Days did that song, Hump De Bump? Did they? And they were about, each must have been key this must have been cracking it was 50s and he's doing a song called hump de bump yeah he looks it up it's on the stadium arcade in 2006 so he would have been a lot older yeah fucking atrocious uh title atrocious sentiment um i mean wow robbins anyway aren't they uh i don't think they are um are you confusing him with tyler one of them is a wrong
Starting point is 00:09:28 one as per his own autobiography okay fair fair so take it up with him yeah i mean you write some stuff in the 90s don't you and then you then you're in big trouble um there's there was i i i don't necessarily share the snobbiness around the red hot chili Peppers generally. I think, you know, people like what they like and that's fine. I don't really get exorcised about it. But I did catch something on the radio not that long ago and it was like, because you know that famous Nick Cave quote?
Starting point is 00:09:54 Oh yeah, every time I turn on the radio there's this fucking music playing and it's always... No, I'm forever saying to myself, what the fuck is that? And the answer is always the Red Hot Chili Peppers. But I'm not going to be snobby. I mean, if you're Nick Cave
Starting point is 00:10:04 and you're an amazing songwriter, I suppose you can get away with saying that. So I'm not going to kind of jump on board that. But what'm not going to be i mean if you're nick cave and you're an amazing songwriter i suppose you can get away with saying that so i'm not going to kind of jump on board that what i am going to say is i did catch something on the radio not that long ago which was billed as a new red hot chili pepper single and it was within a year less than a year ago yeah and i caught a bit of it and it was remarkable yeah like the bit i caught was just anthony keeler's going the sights the smells the sounds it's like what was it the sights the sounds the smells so what is he talking it's like a fucking dr zeus like a bad dr zeus fucking song loke hump de bump duper bodu hump de bump dupe bop hump de bump duper bodu oh no and then just goes into the Hoopabodoo, hump-de-bump, doop-bop. Hump-de-bump, doopabodoo.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Oh, no. And then it just goes into the same chorus again. Hump-de-bump, doopabodoo. Did you see the Blur doing Coachella this week? I did see that. I could not find this more delicious. As someone who quite aggressively dislikes Blur, I enjoyed it. Yeah, I liked them back in the day,
Starting point is 00:11:06 but he gets away with murder, that absolute prick. Albon. Have you interviewed him? Have I? You must have. No.
Starting point is 00:11:18 No, I've not. There's people in music of that generation and they fall into two categories, Pete. The ones you've interviewed and the ones you don't remember interviewing. Because you've definitely and the ones you don't remember interviewing
Starting point is 00:11:25 because you've definitely interviewed all of them no he's got a terrible reputation anyone who's ever interviewed that bloke in the last 15 years he's got a terrible
Starting point is 00:11:33 reputation with him because he's not very nice let's put that that way and has frequently been quite difficult in interviews and he had a bad time at Coachella
Starting point is 00:11:44 because A Coachella because A Coachella is not necessarily for music fans B they're fucking ancient and C it was Girls and Boys which is very much
Starting point is 00:11:54 you know the sentiment if there is any sentiment in Girls and Boys the song that he got upset in it's very British isn't it it's very British it would be like
Starting point is 00:12:03 Jarvis Cocker getting very upset that people didn't know you know that dogs were everywhere in Sheffield or Sheffield is a city etc
Starting point is 00:12:11 you know you can totally see how it was a strange booking yeah I think but I couldn't even see them on the line they're third down before no doubt
Starting point is 00:12:21 and Tyler the Creator on a Saturday but after Sublime that's a weird sublime still out and about okay apparently as a yeah i know that obviously the lead singer died um but do you care that i didn't i didn't actually know that but do you care that sorry if you're blur do you care about that though you're just like okay i've done a million gigs i don't know why yeah but it is a testament to bearing in mind like you know fubbler i think their highest
Starting point is 00:12:50 charting single somebody pointed out to it is it got 58 in the billboard charts back in the 90s they're the biggest performing single from them so in the us they're nobody really yeah and so for them to i like i kind of like like it that British people can never break through. British bands, anyway, of the Britpop generation forwards, they find it very, very difficult to break through. Mumford & Sons managed it. That's about it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:14 Arctic Monkeys? Really, though? Kind of. You know what I mean? Mumford & Sons, because they've got a bit of a country lilt, they probably sashayed it in that a little bit. But Arctic Monkeys probably can't fill a stadium out there can they I don't know
Starting point is 00:13:26 I'm not really sure I get that sense anyway but yeah I do like the fact that it is really hard to do and it is really
Starting point is 00:13:34 hard to conquer America and I do find it amusing that Damon Albom would let his kind of mask slip a little bit
Starting point is 00:13:41 he's there he's put a suit on for the occasion because it's clearly quite a big gig even for Blur even's there. He's put a suit on for the occasion because it's clearly quite a big gig, even for Blur, even in this situation. He's had a terrible time.
Starting point is 00:13:50 He started admonishing the crowd, which is never a winner. Oh, it depends on your perspective. It's always a winner for me. I love it. Oh, it's lovely stuff. He did look like... The thing I thought about it
Starting point is 00:14:03 when I saw it, and it's available widely online, obviously, is that he just looked like a legacy actor that clearly didn't have a legacy. It's almost like in the US, I mean, because you can kind of do what you want if you're older and you've sold a million, billion records. Oh, Dylan's not sang one of his own songs for about 20 years.
Starting point is 00:14:23 You don't even know what songs he sings. Hump the Bump. When you see him live. He does a great cover of Hump the Bump. He does a very good version of Hump the Bump by the Religious Lippebs. It was a really interesting clip. I think, I don't really like Blair.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I think if you break them down to their component parts, every single one of them's a dickhead. So that tells you its own story. Whether it's cheese or, I mean, I think I said this to you before. There's a Graham Coxon single, a solo single about 15 years ago, which is genuinely one of the worst pieces of music i've ever heard it's like a school band right got fucking mainstream play because it's graham coxson right dreadful on his own like really poor you know um damon albans damon albans alex james
Starting point is 00:15:04 is possibly the biggest embarrassment in like British music history and I am including all the paedophiles and perverts in that and the final one was a fucking
Starting point is 00:15:11 Labour councillor how uncool can you get he ran for he's been trying to knock on that door for such a long time I think he might even be a candidate
Starting point is 00:15:19 for an MP in the next election now yeah he went for Mayor a few years ago I remember that also what happened
Starting point is 00:15:25 at Coachella? Let's look at a little Coachella review of this. Grimes just absolutely stacked her DJ set and just said, sorry, I can't mix these songs, they're too quick.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Something went catastrophically wrong. She just stopped the set and went, oh, sorry, I can't do the maths here, I'm confused. Just absolutely like late you're talking
Starting point is 00:15:48 to someone who has been in the dubious position of actually seeing a grimes dj set live okay right yeah and it was terrible right it was genuinely i mean not that bad she didn't own up to being shit in the middle of it but um it was it was really really almost like confusingly poor yeah yeah and i think she's got she got like a reputation as being quite a fairly interesting artist yeah i think so i always get grimes mixed up with churches mixed up with idols mixed up with the woman who married elon musk i get all of these kind of poppy kind of dance acts that have cool logos. You know, Grimes did. Grimes was with Elon Musk
Starting point is 00:16:29 for years. They've got kids together and stuff. Okay, okay, right. Yeah, I get everyone sort of mixed up a little bit. I don't think that's anything to do,
Starting point is 00:16:36 that's nothing to do with churches, mate. No, nothing to do with idols either. Do you regularly find yourself just getting a series of random things, animal, vegetables and minerals mixed up with each other?
Starting point is 00:16:46 Well, I think this podcast stands a testament to that. A testimony to my failures. The man who confused his wife for a hat. Is that you? What's that from? It's like a book, isn't it? It's a book about strange psychological conditions. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:01 And there's a guy, I'm paraphrasing it because I haven't actually read the book and it was years ago I heard about it he kind of had this psychological issue where he couldn't distinguish between people and inanimate objects right okay it did remind me of you a great deal actually yeah okay shall we take a break and when we come back we'll do some batteries
Starting point is 00:17:20 because we've got some good ones this week battery daddy on the way, see you in a bit and we're back it's the looking picture I'm Pete Donaldson John but Mr. Looky Moore and every single Thursday we talk about all things
Starting point is 00:17:31 batteries have you found a battery inside some computers or a vibrating device we've had before we've had calculators we've had a lot of children's toys
Starting point is 00:17:42 a lot of parents sort of just sat in a in like a playpen just replacing the replacing the batteries in a little toy and sort of going oh maybe the little picture might like this and they forget
Starting point is 00:17:56 it's kind of them to think of us they drop the battery into the playpen the child eats the battery and then you're in all kinds of trouble Daniel Daniel I spent this weekend clearing out my childhood bedroom after moving out 11 years ago whilst going through the cupboards i came across a camera and inside were these national hyper batteries for your consideration
Starting point is 00:18:18 keep up the great work daniel now i'm loving this design i think it has all the hallmarks of a 1970s kind of... Ordered from the CPC catalogue. It's the Mazda Electric Company, presumably. It's like a Japan import, very much like my car. It's got real kind of like East German design energy and I'm a big fan of those they look about
Starting point is 00:18:48 50 years old yeah it's good stuff so 11 years ago apparently if not more this camera was filled with batteries but we're very
Starting point is 00:18:56 very thankful for Daniel chucking them over but are the National Hypers a new entry Luke they are a new entry congratulations
Starting point is 00:19:03 Daniel it's a brand new player you know what if we had like should we take in the whole kind of like battery daddy I'm moving all of the other
Starting point is 00:19:10 batteries to the back and I'm putting the National Hypers right in the front because I think it's a good it's a good DJ name for you that
Starting point is 00:19:17 what National Hyper yeah I'd like it yeah or a really bad National cover band T.O. Borman has come in with
Starting point is 00:19:26 an email it says hello Luke's and gentle Pete's I have for you today the most promising battery submission from a road trip
Starting point is 00:19:32 vacation in Taos New Mexico the wife I have access to and I are celebrating our 12 year anniversary on Sunday
Starting point is 00:19:40 and we'd also love to celebrate a new player in the Battery Daddy hope you're both well and come on you rip-roaring high drain Piscels
Starting point is 00:19:49 or Piscel rather P-I-S-C-E-L-L if a fish was crossed by crossed with a battery presumably yeah presumably Peter although the plot
Starting point is 00:19:57 is about to thicken so strap yourself in kind of looks like P-I-ZAP energy bolt C-E-L-L doesn't it? I think if they were piss cells, they would be a new player.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Right. But my experience tells me, based on a pretty decent deep dive into the inbox... Pi cell. ...is that these are PK cells, which you've had a million times before, and the branding is just confusing because people in the battery industry are making this up. What do PK cell batteries look like, though? Let me have a look. Oh, yes, I do believe you. You are right, Luke.
Starting point is 00:20:32 You've got that absolutely cock on. The K. Sometimes they don't use the lightning bolt logo. They just use the K. He's had a stinker. He's had a stinker,'s had a stinker T.O. Borman but is there any kind of solace
Starting point is 00:20:47 in the fact that Towers in New Mexico is one of the few places I've actually been you have does that help yeah and what was it like
Starting point is 00:20:55 checked into a hotel it was like kind of a a Mexican sort of domicile and a full geisha face painted goth was playing a harp. And I didn't need that because I'd bought some edibles.
Starting point is 00:21:11 It absolutely threw me through a fucking loop. So there we go. So you've got poor memories of it. I've got poor memories of it. Went over the road to the burger shack and giggled my way through lunch. Sorry, supper, not lunch. Supper? Supper.
Starting point is 00:21:27 You're in Downton Abbey. Right. Darby is coming. That's not a new player, Pete. We officially said that's not a new player. Sorry, not a new player, yeah. Because you went to
Starting point is 00:21:34 Towson, New Mexico and saw a geisha painted as a goth and you were high. So therefore, our friend, what was his name? T.O. Bowman.
Starting point is 00:21:44 T.O. Bowman. Sounds like a detective, a dog, or a dog that's? T.O. Bowman. T.O. Bowman. Sounds like a detective, a dog, or a dog that's a detective. It's T.O. Bowman. I am imagining like a quite spiffy dog detective with a bow tie. Mustache and bow tie. A terrier, one of those kind of like a schnauzer
Starting point is 00:22:00 or a border terrier with a big moustache and possibly a monocle. I would call it a bad guy in a Scooby-Doo episode. What? P.O. Bowman? T.O. Bowman. Yeah, T.O.
Starting point is 00:22:11 What does the T and O stand for? That is the question. Yeah. The only Bowman. Hi, Looker Pete. I'm guessing this is not a new player, but I did want to send this G... Oh, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:22:21 What are you doing? What is it? Darby, I feel sick. I can't even say it. I did want to send this g oh fuck it what are you doing darby darby i feel sick i can't even say it i do want to send this gp soup oh gp super alkaline get out of here i've got wet mouth i'm gonna be sick an old carbon monoxide detector says to get to it use a screwdriver to cut through the paint and seal the battery in right next to the notice that says do not paint love the show guys Darby Darby I'd love to hear from people
Starting point is 00:22:48 actually who don't have a fucking smoke detector with a super GP alkaline in it because it's every single person in the fucking world's got one
Starting point is 00:22:56 mine's Duracell thank you very much you probably changed it I did change it I probably took out a GP Ultra yeah since the turn of the year alone, 31 people have sent this in.
Starting point is 00:23:09 And they shouldn't have. No. They shouldn't have. I mean, they should have been told. They're getting nothing back out of that. They're getting nothing back out of that. List their names. Just bash out a few names.
Starting point is 00:23:17 The GP Ultra, right? George Quinlan, David Foley. Twat. Getham Barden, Carl Hunter. Bastard. Carl Hunter twice actually Paul Double bastard
Starting point is 00:23:27 Darren Sloan Fool Nicholas Kobe James Harmer Scum Pete Donaldson Deport them Oh
Starting point is 00:23:36 Shit Deport them in their Japanese car Deport them in their Japanese car So anyway We've got two out of three No one out of three Because one of them was a mistake And the other one was a complete joke it's not it's not ideal is it
Starting point is 00:23:48 no should we finish with an email oh let's do that then there's an email here from david who says um hi you got he actually calls us venerable podcasting royalty but i'm not going to acknowledge that i'm just going to say hi guys if you became a member of the royal family by just doing it sorry that i i didn't i couldn't figure out what to say at the end of that sentence yeah don't start right don't start um for just doing something for a long time broadcasting 101 do you know what i mean yeah if you can't think of how to finish the sentence we've been probably don't start what i'm saying is we've been podcasting for such a long time since the very beginning you know i
Starting point is 00:24:24 didn't fucking show back in like sort of ipod times right oh yeah you don't start what I'm saying is we've been podcasting for such a long time since the very beginning you know I didn't fucking show back in like sort of iPod times right you don't have to mention it do you I do like to mention it because it gives us it gives us
Starting point is 00:24:31 it gives us the right to tell people off I think you keep telling me never to mention how long we've been doing podcasts because everyone
Starting point is 00:24:40 will think we're old and boring we are old and boring yeah but then I mean we're sorry to say it on air because people know we're old and boring true actually we just did boring. Yeah, but then, I mean, we're sorry to say it on air because people know we're old and boring.
Starting point is 00:24:46 True, actually. We just did a 10-minute feature about batteries, for crying out loud. And then we had a go at Blur for being three years older than us. I would say that, like, I would say that with that, we've been doing it for such a long time, that we should be knighted, at least. Podcast knighting. Why doesn't the old British podcast award do knightings?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Why aren't we put into some kind of hall of fame, the hoff? Can I just set the record straight and say I wasn't having a go at Blur merely for being three years older than us. I was having a go at them for having the temerity to be more successful than me. That's the main reason I wasn't. And getting upset because people weren't respecting them.
Starting point is 00:25:21 And if the British podcast awards were dishing out knighthoods, I don't think they really even know who we are so i don't know i mean how can you can unite a dad dad wrote a nighty like can you night yeah the first people would be my dad can you night the the big guy from uh dad wrote a porno for the fifth time i'd just be like him getting knighted. He'd be getting bigger and bigger suits of armour. And yes, I do believe how the knights work. That's what it'd be like.
Starting point is 00:25:51 He'd be getting his 15th knighthood and he'd be talking about how much he's not interested in it while simultaneously updating his LinkedIn. His shoulder would be down to the bone, the amount of sword strikes he's received. It would. And his back would be breaking from the flowers he's received. It would. And his back would be breaking from the flowers he's received. It would.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I think you're right. I think that's absolutely spot on. But yeah, there you go. Yeah, alright. Can I wrestle this back to this email? Oh yeah, did we even do the email? Sorry. No, we didn't do it. Did my dad write a point to do emails and do they forget halfway through? I don't know. Not sure. Dad wrote the email.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Anyway, Davidid he calls us venerable podcast in royalty it's his decision that's his yeah that's up to him yeah absolutely up to him he said i thought i might be so bold as to try and compose a missive to tie together some disparate threads from recent episodes when you were discussing fencing and segued seamlessly into hobgoblin and then Iron Maiden. You mentioned Bruce Dickinson for Trooper Ale and talked about him being a qualified pilot. What shocked me to the very core
Starting point is 00:26:52 though was that you didn't also talk about him being an international standard fencer. I did know that. I thought we had mentioned that. I definitely didn't know it because I've read his memoir and I was actually really disappointed by his memoir. I was looking forward to it. I really like Iron memoir. And I was actually really disappointed by his memoir. I was looking forward to it.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I really like Iron Maiden and he's an interesting guy. But the book isn't that good. Every single chapter ends with go figure, which is disappointing. It's a really bad way of putting it. It's a good payoff, I think. Yeah, go figure. It's like needless to say, I had the last laugh. You had to get the word count down. Now, tying the fencing
Starting point is 00:27:25 into the most recent episode, says David, when you were talking about the development of planes and the ones with the big disc on them, the name you were actually looking for was AWACS, Airborne Warning and Control System.
Starting point is 00:27:36 This was the American system that superseded the UK NIMROD, which is a plane with a sticking out nose and big bum. Pete, you'd be very jealous. Yes. My father was in the RAF, and we were based up in North Scotland
Starting point is 00:27:46 where he supervised the flight simulators up there. On leaving the RAF after 25 years service, he moved to the civilian side of the RAF flight simulation world, and his boss at the time was also an international fencer. So there you have fencing, iron maiden, development planes, job done, David. Nice. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:02 So good stuff. I mean, I'm pleased that that happened. I'm pleased that we got the plane title correct in the end. I'd love to see one of those AWACS planes in real life just flying around. They just look too... Top heavy. Yeah, too top heavy, really. I mean, the amount of drag that gets added to a plane
Starting point is 00:28:20 when you just put the old wheels down. You don't know what you're talking about. I do. I've watched so many episodes of the Mentor Pilot. It increases drag. It's a real pain in the arse. Yeah, but the way you started that... And also, the air brakes and the engine reversers, they don't even work if the
Starting point is 00:28:35 fucking wheels aren't down and there's a bit of pressure on them. They don't work. So you can't reverse the fucking engines in flight and explode your engines to bits. You can say whatever you want about planes, you would still be the very last person I'd want flying when I was in. I'll say, Luke,
Starting point is 00:28:51 I have watched so many videos about everything going wrong that I'm bound to not make it go wrong. That's just the least convincing pitch I've ever heard in my life. COVID era Air Pakistan. So negative. There was a real issue with the
Starting point is 00:29:05 captain being an arrogant shit. And he killed everyone. So I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to be an arrogant shit. I read something in a Malcolm Gladwell book where there was two Japanese pilots and one of them was junior to the other one. And the senior one was about to pilot into the sea because he had the readings
Starting point is 00:29:21 wrong. And the junior pilot was trying to tell him and the senior one kept clipping around tell him and the chap for the CD kept clipping him around the back of the head and then they all died yeah and then they all died yeah I'll just say that
Starting point is 00:29:31 I say Luke as I'm flying along I say Luke you may not respect me but I've why are you doing that out of your hands I've been doing
Starting point is 00:29:38 it's a storm it's my hand on the york it's a storm by the look of it it's a storm we're going through a lot of turbulence for people who can't see this he looks like he's masturbating two gentlemen i said luke you may
Starting point is 00:29:49 not respect me as a pilot but god damn it i've been doing podcasts on since the ipod times and i've been fucking it's 10 episodes of a podcast in the in the nearly the 90s, all right? So respect me. No, I don't want to use the ILS approach. I am going to do it manually. Why are you sweating so much? You did come across a bit Arthur Shelby then, if you don't mind me saying. Which one's Arthur Shelby? Is he the...
Starting point is 00:30:15 The really angry one. He used to be a ticket tout, didn't he? Yeah. I think he might be a troubled man in real life, you know. I think if you've been a ticket... I think ticket tout is like one of those jobs that are about the same as selling car batteries in the pub. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:31 It's this summing, it's something, it's the nighttime economy, even if they don't do it at night. You know what I mean? I once saw the greatest. The sort of people who kind of have those little kind of bicycles that take drunk men to strip clubs. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nighttime economy. I once saw, and this is actually, weirdly enough, those little kind of bicycles that take drunk men to strip clubs you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah there's that kind of thing night time economy yeah I once saw and this is actually weirdly enough this was outside an Iron Maiden gig at Twickenham Stadium
Starting point is 00:30:50 I once saw the greatest fist fight between two normal people I'd ever seen right it was two ticket touts what and they were like what they were
Starting point is 00:30:59 connecting they were doing oh it was unbelievable it went on for about five minutes great quality yeah yeah over the top of a car Right One chinned the other
Starting point is 00:31:07 Couple of good clean shots Ironically some Ironically people were Selling tickets for it They should have been Yeah It was because one of them Was annoyed because the other one
Starting point is 00:31:15 Kept selling Trying to tout In his little Zone His little area And he's like I've got This is my area
Starting point is 00:31:23 Interesting Yeah I guess you got When you are part of that um ticket ticket reselling economy that uh the big companies have decided they want to slice off um thank you very much i think i think you have to be a bit tasty don't you you have to sort of defend your area yeah they're like proper i think they're i mean with the greatest respect proper ruffians they're yeah they are wrong and so yeah anyway all i remember
Starting point is 00:31:44 is one of them shouting at the other, get off Witton Road! Get off Witton Road! Get off Witton Road! And the other one's going, hump to bump! Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Right, on that note, we've got to go. We'll be back on Monday though. Actually, we've got an email from Pilot Neil. Yes! Which I'll do on Monday. He knows about ALS Approaches
Starting point is 00:32:01 and Yorks. I'm not sure he mentions it in his email because I haven't read it yet but I saw it drop in the inbox and I'm bloody excited for it
Starting point is 00:32:06 talk to us about Vector's pilot Neil alright we'll be back on Monday where we'll be humping and bumping da bump
Starting point is 00:32:12 I will be spending my weekend thinking about what I've done Luke is going to be thinking about what I've done as
Starting point is 00:32:20 well we'll see you on Monday always see you then very well as well. We'll see you on Monday. Always. See you then. The Luke and Pete Show is a Stack Production and part of the ACAST Creator Network.

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