The Luke and Pete Show - Best Bigga juice drinking years
Episode Date: May 13, 2024Luke think Pete treats his stomach like an abusive parent after he sees him eating Chinese in the office at 9am. Pete's upset no one likes Bigga Juice at Stak HQ. He also complains about the lack... of microwave possibilities in the office which turns the conversation to the Darwin Awards as they contemplate how long it would take to microwave your head.Elsewhere they talk about the fans they've been meeting and discuss what their ideal level of fame would be - would you rather be like the guitarist in Coldplay with the ability to go about his day to day life, or, like Taylor Swift who apparently has to be carried out of planes in a bodybag so no one will see her?Want to get in touch with the show? Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow. Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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It's the Luke and Pete show.
I'm Pete Donaldson.
It's Monday the 30th of May.
Very burpy today, Luke.
What have you been eating or drinking?
It pops out.
I bought some of them posh crisps you recommended me about four years ago.
Oh, Torres?
Torres.
Never had them before.
Fuck, they're good.
They are delicious.
They're absolutely sensational.
Very buttery,
Iberico ham-flavoured crisps.
That flavour hangs around as well.
That's the one flavour that probably repeats on me a bit.
Yeah.
Well, I mean,
that's what I've had,
that and Diet Coke for breakfast.
So that's not ideal.
What?
Pizza.
Look, I know this is an old trope and stuff,
and maybe we do a bit too much
of this kind of thing,
but last time I saw you in person,
I walked into the office at 9am and you were eating a bit too much of this kind of thing but last time i saw you in person i walked into the office at 9 a.m and you were eating a chinese takeaway yeah and then after recording
after recording peter you smashed into a gigantic pokeball yeah that wasn't the same day those
different days no it's the same day different needs i wasn't eating chinese in the morning
and then had a pokeball in the afternoon. I had a Chinese in the morning,
finished the story.
Next day,
you've seen me,
I'm having the poke bowl.
I just don't think
your body knows
what's going on.
The problem with poke bowls
is they're so delicious
and you can add
so many different bits into it,
like mangoes and prawns
and crab salad and stuff.
It's delicious.
But it is just
a big bowl of rice
and it will take you
to task at like about 2pm. You will feel very sleepy eating a massive bowl of rice and it will take you to task
at like about 2pm.
You will feel very
sleepy eating a massive
bowl of rice.
Yeah but you also
treat your stomach like
you're an abusive
parent.
It has no kind of
understanding of
stomach about what's
happening and when
and why it's not
being looked after.
I'm a colleague.
I'm not a parent to
my stomach.
I'm a colleague to
my stomach.
I'm an abusive
colleague.
Yeah.
You're going to call
HR on my tum tum.
You're the colleague that every
single night after work makes you
go out on the piss with him and then marches you to
a cash point.
That's what you are. Right.
But I just think, when you,
I mean, because this literally did happen. People don't think, oh, I'm just
talking shit, but I wondered at
nine in the morning last week, and
you were in a Chinese takeaway at your desk,
and I wonder wonder do you ever
consider what the younger people in our office see as an example um yeah but i shouldn't but i mean
i'm annoyed that i brought in like i think 12 bottles of bigger juice yeah and like no one's
getting involved i'm like going guys this my bigger juice consuming and my kind of hawaiian or
um jamaican punch uh sort of years were very much my 20s like you know i was working on a breakfast
show i was i was working in an office i needed that sugar that's the time to experiment guys
come into pete's hut and enjoy the sugary goodness of a bigger juice but everyone's like going, sipping it and going
oh that's a bit much, like guys
your palate is
you can deal with this in your 20s
I have a sip of this stuff in my 30s
or 40s and my
stomach goes all to shit
and you're still drinking it on your own in your car
you're missing out
you're missing out on your best bigger juice drink in years
I did genuinely see producer Finn, head of sport Finn.
The other day, I was walking down the corridor to go into the studio office.
He was coming out of the studio office with four bottles of unopened bigger juice under his arm,
shaking his head.
Yeah.
As in, what am I going to do with these?
Oh, no.
What am I going to do with these?
Is there any link to the fact... It keeps bringing them in.
Is there any link to the fact that the toilets in our office,
the communal toilets, which we're not responsible for,
have been out of order ever since you brought bigger juice in?
Is there...
We've found a lot of red piss in the pipes.
What is, like, why are the...
Why do we, A, not have a microwave in the building
so I can warm up my Chinese, and, B, why aren the, why do we, A, not have a microwave in the building so I can warm up my Chinese,
and B, why aren't any toilets working?
So, question A is because John won't let us have one in the office.
Right, okay, okay.
So you have to bring in your own microwave?
No.
So the only two options for a microwave, as far as I understand it, would be in the communal kitchen area,
which the building won't sanction
because of their policy around unsafe electronics, right?
Just check the electronics.
They check all the other electronics.
Take it up with them.
Take it up with the people who run the building that you have singularly avoided
for the last eight years about any conversation whatsoever.
Have that conversation if you want to.
I've had a conversation with them about post rooms.
We had to bring a plumber around
to fix some of the water
coming out of a pipe.
Yeah, that sounds like
exactly the kind of normal conversation
a human being would have
with another human being.
You just give the example
of a conversation.
There's some water coming out of the pipe.
There's some water coming out of the pipe.
Someone's pooping in there.
And the other option
is to put the microwave in the office
and as far as I know,
John's vetoed that.
Right, okay, fine.
I'll be fine with it. I don't care. Right. I mean, you can put, yeah, put it in the studio. Just far as I know John's vetoed that. Right, okay, fine. I'll be fine with it.
I don't care.
Right.
I mean, you could put,
yeah, put it in the studio.
Just buy one and bring it in
and put it in there.
No one's probably
going to stop you.
Charlie might get pissed off.
Have you seen that guy
who's got like a microwave
on his head
and he cycles through town?
What?
He's got like this guy
in America.
It's like a TikTok or something.
He's this guy
who just looks like
a mad dude
who's got a microwaveiktok or something he's like this guy who just looks like a mad dude who's got a
microwave on his head and he basically just burns it as fast as he can up to the anyone who'll
listen does a massive rear wheel skid and goes i got a microwave on my head and he slams the
microwave door shut because as he as he's doing his swerve the microwave door swings open and
then he slams the microwave door shut and then scoots off again.
It's brilliant.
He is living his best life.
Is it fixed to his head?
It's on his head.
He basically punched a hole
in the bottom of the microwave
and stuck his head
right through it.
Nice.
Thrilling.
Absolutely thrilling.
What a way to live your life.
You think of what I'm thinking?
What?
Ramble live show.
Ramble live show
on Mr. Microwave.
That'd be great yeah just cook my
head it's no more insane than some of the ideas you have got uh peter if i had if i right jammed
like just basically drilled um a hole into the bottom of a microwave right plugged it in
and i put it on my head like and and started to cook my own head,
how long would it take for someone to rescue me?
I reckon I'd be tossed.
I'd be done.
I'd be budwired.
You'd have to circumvent the safety feature of the microwave, right?
Because it wouldn't start, would it?
Yeah, it would start.
And I don't think there's any electrons in the base.
It's only that motor that moves the microwave around.
So it won't start when the doors open, obviously, famously.
Yeah, well, I'm not going through the door.
I'm going through the bottom.
Okay.
The more pertinent question for me would be,
how long would it take to do some genuine damage to your head?
I think it'd be under 10 seconds.
10 seconds is a long time. under 10 seconds like i don't know
has anyone got any grounding i don't know this has been done yeah there might be a reason i
remember like reading about a chef who's um there was a microwave at like kind of like hip level
and he started having terrible kidney problems because his kidneys were just really close to
this leaking microwave which is just a horrific story. But yeah,
I reckon under 10 seconds. Sometimes things
haven't been done before because they're amazing ideas
that no one's thought of yet. Sometimes they've not
been done before because it'd be a bad thing to do.
Some deaths are like proper
like
proper to, like
genuinely makes you feel sick to think about it. What a horrible
way to go. Yeah, you remember the Darwin Awards?
My dad used to get a book from, I think,
his brother like every year.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Darwin Awards from that year,
so people who've died
in the most ridiculous circumstances.
Yeah, yeah.
And some of them are just absolutely ridiculous.
You know, like the ones I remember,
the guy who, there was a guy who died
because he fell from a skyscraper
because he was trying to show a group of students that the windows were unbreakable.
Right, okay, yeah, yeah.
I mean, that's the sort of thing you get told and you just trust, don't you?
You don't need to necessarily stress test them.
No, another one would be that guy who went to North Sentinel Island.
Was he the Jesus guy?
Yeah, he was told over and over again, don't go there, they're going to kill you.
Don't go there.
They are not into us.
He was obviously delusionally religious.
Like, you know, oh, it'll be fine.
God will sort it out, you know.
Yeah, God has sorted it out.
Yeah, yeah.
Let us know how you get on when you see him.
There's your Alpha Cos, dickhead.
Yeah, exactly.
I keep squeaking my foot on the chair, by the way. It course dickhead yeah exactly I keep squeaking my foot
on the chair by the way
it's not me farting
stop squeaking your foot
on the chair
yeah listen
crying out loud
oh
squeaking
I sent you a video
of two lads
that I find
they're jeepery on Twitter
very amusing
I'll find their names
it's Tom Lawrenson
and Sam O'Leary
they're two little sketch lads
little sketch lads.
Little sketch lads.
All of us probably.
Two lads who just do sketches and stuff.
And one of the sketches that I sent you was the Gordon Ramsay one.
Oh, it's brilliant.
It's fucking brilliant.
Are you going to put fart noises over the top of this?
Yeah, it's so funny.
Check it out on Tom Lawrenson.
Check it out.
Mr. Sam O'Leary.
It makes me laugh.
Brilliant.
I still watch an episode of Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares UK once a week at least. Yeah. It makes me laugh. Brilliant. I still watch an episode
of Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares UK
once a week at least.
Yeah.
And there's not enough episodes.
That's the problem.
What do you mean?
I don't like it
when they repeat these TV shows
on digital television, though,
because there's just too many ad breaks.
Too many ad breaks.
Yeah, so they don't...
So they only really,
as far as I know,
they only repeat the US one,
which I think is actually coming back.
Right.
But the UK one, there's only about US one, which I think is actually coming back. Right. But the UK one is only about 15 episodes.
Which, when you think about it,
the show you love watching more than anything else is the US Office, right?
Yeah.
It's about 250 episodes, isn't it?
It's become a bit of a routine for me.
Yeah, nine seasons, eight seasons, 25 per.
Yeah, so I wish we had that on the old UK Kitchen Nightmares. I basically just wish Gordon Ramsay
was on every single restaurant in the UK.
Yeah, okay.
It's just a sensational piece of TV. I think it's the best
fly on the wall show ever.
It's brilliant.
Peter, anyway, let's get through
a couple more emails because we always get a backlog because we never
end up doing them.
And so I would like to read this one from Joe who
says, afternoon chaps i
was driving home from the chiropractor in leon c this afternoon oh listening there are a few
chiropractors in in leon c are there there's i just think there's a lot of back injuries people
sort of i don't know rolling down the hill towards the sea i don't know why people have so many um
bone and ligament i think people think it's people carrying all their money
in their backpacks.
Yeah.
He says,
I was listening to Pete
talking around about
slugging a line of
Brucey's ashes.
That's a ramble thing
at the moment.
He said,
the wonderful moment
of serendipity,
what do I see on my right
but a Toyota Sentry
parked up.
Uh-oh.
After months of hearing
about the car.
I've been spotted.
Uh-oh.
After months of hearing about the car. Someone knows where I live. Uh-oh. It was great to see it in the wild, to see it in the flesh while listening to Pete was a treat. To celebrate, I placed a snail and a spider under the bonnet. No, the ear teller. But he said he spotted your car out in the wild. Spotted my car out in the wild. Right. Okay. Yeah. I think I know where that chiropractor is then. I've come to the conclusion that,
so I was cycling home the other day and if you're a cyclist in London,
you just get shouted at a lot, right?
I'm sure, no, at least half the time.
Do you though?
Because I...
I should have my headphones on.
Yeah, don't do that.
Anyway, so people just shout at you,
you know, car drivers and pedestrians,
whatever.
Hey, know where you're slag.
What?
I was cycling through, I've been to see a your slag. What? And I was cycling through.
I'd been to see a mate for lunch in Hackney.
And I was cycling back from there.
And I was cycling down a cycle path.
And a guy just started shouting at me.
And I was like, okay.
And the way he was shouting wasn't like an aggressive calling me a cunt type thing.
In which case I would just ignore it and carry on.
He was shouting
in a way that was like oh what have i dropped something or my bag open or something so i stopped
on the cycle path about 50 meters from him and i could see him in the distance and he just goes
all right i was like yeah he goes uh i'm uh i'm listening to you right now
I was like
oh okay
great thanks for listening
no worries
and then just put his headphone back
and just carried on walking
and I'm not being ungrateful for it
but I'm just saying
what's the purpose
what's the purpose
I don't know
I think it's a nice thing though
isn't it
it's exciting
but sometimes people will come up to you and they'll say
and this does happen
and they'll say oh look
I love the show
please don't stop making the show I just love listening to it so much
or I've been through a bit of a difficult time
and you guys really cheered me up
and that's all really nice and I'm very appreciative of that
but if you're just going to do that thing
can't you just text me or sorry tweet
me just go i just saw you i love the show you've you've inconvenienced us both for no real outcome
there he's just excited why why do you not have joy in your soul i'll tell you one i'll tell you
one um that i don't think i've shared on this point anyway um last week i'm week, I'm in a field. I'm in a...
No bad story starts like this.
Last week,
I'm in a field.
An area of natural beauty.
And there's a little cafe
in this sort of golf course,
I think.
And I pop in
and a lad goes,
oh, Pete,
how you doing?
You know,
I enjoy one of the shows,
presumably.
It's always either
it's always
really weirdly
either a broad Japan
on this one
these days
I don't know why
yeah I get a lot of
Luke and Pete chat
yeah
and
which doesn't
hasn't made me raise my game
on this show
but I think people
like the fact that you are
like in some ways
really bad
right
but still really good
I think it's relatable
yeah but I don't think it'd bring really good i think it's relatable yeah but i
don't think it'd bring i don't think on boards new listeners no but jake humphrey ain't gonna
broadcast like you broadcast is he it's a good point actually yeah i get up at a reasonable hour
um and i uh and and so i i went back outside and sarah went back in to buy some dog treats or whatever. And the lad who I'd said hello to had fainted.
So,
I'm just saying, Luke.
I'm just saying, Luke.
Alright, fine. It was probably unrelated.
But, there's potential
for me to be as big as the Beatles.
But, do you
know for sure
that he
fainted because he saw you?
Well, of course he didn't.
I don't know why.
He wasn't really excited about the breakfast.
But the correlation is amusing.
The idea that I would think that he fainted because he saw me.
No, but I think he could have loved the show, got really excited.
He could have been his favourite person on the show
and he might not have had any breakfast
because blood sugar was low and it happened.
It can happen.
Can happen.
Can happen.
I came to the conclusion.
Football Ramble Live.
Test your mettle.
I came to the conclusion that
it's probably better
to be really, really, really famous
than slightly known to some people
because the element of being slightly known to some people because the element of being slightly known to some people
always comes along
and you're never fully prepared or expect it.
Whereas if you're super famous,
you're normally wealthy
and you can adjust your lifestyle accordingly
knowing that anytime you leave the house,
you have to live in a certain way
because everyone knows who you are.
The most ideal famous famous not famous people is like the guitarist out of coldplay you know i mean that is i that
is ideal level of fame you walked on the street very easily but you are fucking minted yeah people
that's exactly right ideal you you you get your fair share of all that stuff.
You get to enjoy the experience of playing live with loads of people
and doing some music and stuff that really helps people in their lives
and gets them a lot of enjoyment.
The more thoughtful groupies, et cetera.
Yeah.
The groupies who are not...
To be fair, though, I think there's probably a group... Contrarian. Contrarian groupies. Yeah. The groupies who are not... To be fair, though, I think there's probably a group...
Contrarian.
Contrarian groupies.
Yeah.
I actually like this one the best, actually.
Yeah.
I'd actually quite like to smoosh that one.
If I get in with you, can I get to him?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you'd happily fulfill that, because it's all meaningless.
Yeah, it is.
It's all meaningless.
You're not like who you are.
You can't talk about...
You can't say that stuff these days, though, Peter.
Can you?
I don't know.
It's not acceptable.
Why is it not acceptable?
Power imbalance.
Eh.
Yeah.
But, yeah, I mean, presumably...
What?
So you're not allowed...
So presumably rock stars aren't allowed to have any sexual congress
because of money and fame and attention.
They're not allowed to have any relationships with anyone.
Yeah, good luck with that.
Is that what you're saying, Luke?
Is that what kind of world you live in?
Good luck with that.
What kind of world do you want to live in?
No, I think, I think, look, cars on the table, I think consenting adults are consenting
adults and, you know, that's that.
But a lot of people have posited that there is potential power imbalance.
Oh, massively.
Oh, it's all about that.
Yeah, of course it is.
Yeah.
Of course it is.
I guess it depends on the individual situation, right?
I mean, I don't really know too all about that. Yeah, of course it is. Yeah. Of course it is. I guess it depends on the individual situation, right? I don't really know too much about it.
But the idea that you could be that successful, that famous, that wealthy,
and not really be in the line of sight.
Yeah.
I used to think that you'd be annoyed about that
because you're not getting the credit you deserve.
But as I get older, I think, no, that's ideal.
You would see how destructive it is with Chris Martin.
You would see how awful it is to live your life as
one of those people awful apparently um sarah um had sarah's work in the um albert hall she's doing
um announcements on stage a few weeks ago for the teenage cancer trust gigs and she um had a taxi
driver who's taking her home to badgerton and she and she and the guy was saying
that he is one
of Taylor Swift's
drivers right
right and
so they have
like three
they have I
mean obviously
a lot's been
said about her
private jet use
and stuff like
that but they
rock up to
wherever you
know the hotel
to take her to
or from a you
know private
airfield or whatever to take her wherever
they
get in, there's two decoy drivers
I believe, and also
they're all in Range Rovers that are
like specially modified and
they're in Range Rovers that are
like mucky, like they make their cars
look mucky so that
people are thrown off the scent so it doesn't look like a VIP
situation so they cover their Their cars look mucky so that people are thrown off the scent so it doesn't look like a VIP situation.
So they cover their cars in mud to make it look dirty.
Right.
And basically he carries her off the plane or from someplace
into the back, into the boot of the car.
What?
In a body bag.
What?
And he says, I don't even carry my wife like this.
I don't know what I'm holding.
You know, and this little skinny waif sticking her in the boot of a car, right?
For what reason?
And then she clambers through into the back of the car.
This is insane.
I don't know.
But you always see, like, stars, they get moved around in flight cases around.
Do they?
Like the O2.
Yeah, like everyone's, they're always in flight cases around uh do they like the o2 yeah like everyone's they're always in flight cases aren't they if you say if you're watching like a
yeah on on a big production if like taylor swift needs to get from one place in the auditorium to
another they go in flight cases because it just looks like you know that's probably just full of
guitars or something but it's it's got taylor swift in there i just think it's a bit kinky
yeah i just think she's a bit kinky. Yeah.
I just think she's into it.
This is like blowing my mind a bit.
I just assumed there'd be like passageways underneath
that you could walk through and stuff.
Yeah, I don't know.
Well, I think it's the easier way to do it.
I don't know.
Just get in a flight case.
In Portcullis House,
which is one of the offices
where MPs have their offices and stuff in Parliament,
there's a tunnel underneath
from Portcullis House
to the House of Parliament
and it's also
their own separate
entrance and exit
to Westminster
tube station as well
right
okay
so you have to have a pass
to get through it
I'd love to
but I'd never do
I've eaten in
Portcullis House
a couple of times
and the prices are
astonishingly cheap yeah it's all subsidised I've actually I've had I've had in Portcullis House a couple of times and the prices are astonishingly cheap.
Yeah, it's all subsidised.
I've actually, I've had beers in the Strangers Bar and stuff as well.
A few of my friends are advisors in government.
Anyway, I had no idea about the flight case thing ever.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Just get in.
So I don't think I'd want to be like that famous to be honest
no
it's kind of like
but it reminds me of like
I remember like
one of the Wrestlemania's
I think Doink the Clown
had to sit
underneath
a ring
for
like about
four hours
right
sit
waiting for him to jump out
underneath the
I think there were two Doinks
two clowns
that were identical
and oh I remember that one of them had to out underneath the i think there were two doinks two two clowns that were identical and uh one of them at one of one of them at a sit underneath the ring doing can think i think
and uh and and and yeah and it's just you know in a hot on a on a hot day uh in like probably texas
or something just sat under a ring for five hours oh Ugh. Absolutely gross. And knowing Vince McMahon's operation,
he'd probably be pretty well looked after though, right?
Yeah, exactly.
He gives you a bottle of water
and just in case you get too hot
and it turns out to be pure anabolic steroids.
Where's Dink?
He's dead.
He's died, isn't he?
He's undone.
So, you know,
I read a story a while back
about the wrestler Nails
do you remember Nails?
who got booted out of WWF
because
apparently and I don't know how true this is
but given the latest
kind of stuff that's been going on
wouldn't be too keen
to doubt it
he broke into the WWF
and became this wrestler and he was having these big matches
in big events and stuff.
I just,
Vince McMahon just wouldn't pay him.
Just wouldn't get paid.
And eventually it came to a head
and he just went into Vince McMahon's office,
grabbed him,
pinned him on the floor,
started choking him out
until he paid him.
Vince just got him arrested
and that was that.
Yeah.
I mean,
I wouldn't fuck with the big,
they're all big boys
you know what I mean
yeah
I bet Haku got paid
massive
apparently the world's
hardest man
who would just pop an eye
as soon as he'd look at you
oh that wrestling
that wrestling movie
I told you
it's the greatest
it's the greatest
ostensibly formal
business meeting moment
I've ever seen
in that wrestling movie
where Vince McMahon's
not really interested
in that wrestling
he wants to try out
for the WWF
but he hears on the grapevine
that he can puke on demand
so he gets him into the office
and starts
gets him a bin
and just starts trying
to make him puke
puke yeah
and then he has a tearful
conversation with his mum
saying I think I'm in
I think I'm in
I do have to do
a lot of puke
Jesus
he was
he had
he injured himself
and was quadriplegic.
He died
not that long ago,
that guy.
That's sad.
Doesn't ever tend
to really end very well,
does it?
Well,
going through a whole
like NFL career
and then,
you know,
getting,
you know,
doing a bit of wrestling
and then really,
really hurting yourself.
Oh, well.
Let's have a break, Peter.
When we come back,
I've got an email
here I want to do
and then we'll just do
some other bits and pieces
as well
so don't go anywhere
okay
we're back with
the Luke and Pete show
Luke I love love love
love love love
I know we you know
we speak about AI
being dreadful
and the
what's bad in the world
seems to be
very talentless people
pushing out
really amazing
looking stuff
with just a prompt
Captain Tom I'm glad he is oh yeah there's talentless people um pushing out really amazing looking stuff with just a prompt um captain tom
i'm glad it is oh yeah there's i don't know what app it is but there's i they basically
if they take a video of your choice and they they can figure out what the body is doing at any time
you know basically build a skeletal kind of representation of what that person is doing in the video and the footage. And then you, and then they can
basically put a, any person, uh, visage body into that footage. And it looks the fluidity and, um,
effectiveness. It looks bloody incredible. So you got captain Tom scoring, uh, um, I think I'm
scoring against when
I think Gerrard slipped or something
or whoever slipped
Captain Tom just run towards goal
and just slot in one home
past the goalkeeper
and also when he was on gladiators
Captain Tom
how am I doing boss?
it's such good
it's such a lovely app
and I cannot get enough of it
and I'm glad that we have this technology.
Oh, it's great.
The rest of AI I could very much leave.
But this form of kind of like patching in famous people from history into gladiators is just something else.
It's also not problematic or offensive because nothing can denigrate the memory of Captain Tom anymore than his own family's done.
Exactly.
His legacy.
You're at the back of the queue for denigrating that man's memory.
Has the spa been knocked down yet
yeah it has
they didn't seek
plan permission for it
and
they
yeah they had to
knock it all down
I think yeah
it's almost as if
the family who
took Captain Tom
on holiday
despite the fact
of him being a very old man
and eventually
him dying
of COVID
I think it was in the end wasn't it you sort of think they're not they're not the best planners they don't
they're very kind of like let's just get this done better to do it and say sorry afterwards yeah
better to beg for forgiveness ask for permission like there was there's just so much stuff come
out about that whole foundation which is like really really sad like delicious apparently the
first year the foundation spent 240 000 pounds on management and fundraising cost and just gave
away i gave away just 160 000 pounds and the daughter um why clef-esque yeah the daughter
the daughter did the thing didn't she where she they set up like an awards like and it was like
sponsored by a couple of companies and it was like
it was like a
Captain Tom Foundation
awards for different things
and then it came out
that she
the daughter
was a judge on there
because she was on the board
and she run the foundation
yeah
but then
the foundation
paid her
18 grand
to do the judgment
judging
and it's like
yeah okay we this is not it's like, yeah,
okay.
We,
this is not,
it's not even the perfect crime,
is it?
Shall I ask,
David,
can I have the deal?
Yeah,
exactly.
It's exactly like that.
So everyone's doing this,
everyone's giving up their time for charity.
Yeah.
We're kind of giving up our time,
but you know,
time is money.
Anyway,
so,
I also read something actually fairly recently
from her saying that um
that she um do you remember that interview on the news where she had made captain tom into a
a chair oh a chair yeah and she was saying she was basically pleading poverty saying oh yeah
the mistakes have been made and stuff but actually the charity is not going to exist for much longer
um so people need to ever think about that so yeah it's not going to exist much longer people
aren't going to give you any fucking money
because they don't
want the money to go
yeah you've run out of cash
for crying out loud
anyway
Jordan's been in touch
anyway
he says hi guys
noticed on a recent episode
you chatted about pop music
and knowing that Luke
is a keen reader
just wanted to throw
a suggestion out there
Reach for the Stars
by Michael Craig
is an excellent book
it covers the UK
pop music scene
during the late 90s
and early 2000s
when the likes of Simon Cowell and Simon Fuller
were throwing their weight around.
Particular highlights include members of Five
being backstage with Liam Gallagher
who offered them a bang on this
and it turned out to be a bop-it
that he pulled out from his bag.
Oh, lovely.
Which is great.
Lee from Blue blasting a fire extinguisher,
Alan Shearer.
And Max Martin playing Hit Me Baby
One More Time to Five for one of them just to tell him
it's a shit song and they should give it to that teenage girl
he was talking about.
What a great Slidendoors moment
that is.
Yeah, just, I mean, are these
kind of, remember when, like, was it
no, who's the fella
who used to be in Hollyoaks?
Here's a question for you. Was it Callum Best? Was he in Hollyoaks for a bit? No, it's the fella who used to be in Hollyoaks? Here's a question for you.
Okay.
Who was...
Was it Callum Best?
Was he in Hollyoaks for a bit?
Is it Callum Best?
Anyway, I think it was Callum Best.
Bit of a kind of socialite,
you know, a little bit like his father,
but like his late father.
But a bit of a socialite kind of bloke
who was around about the...
He could easily have slotted into blue
as like a seventh member,
however many they've got.
It's not Callum Best.
Is it Paul Danan?
Might be Paul Danan
who did that Instagram kind of expose thing
where he was just talking about doing Charlie.
It's Paul Dangerous Danan.
Just talking about doing drugs
with like pop stars and stuff.
He did a show with...
They would not thank him.
He did a show with Callum Best, didn't he?
Right.
What was it called?
It had a really funny name.
Best and Da Nang.
No, it wasn't.
It was funnier than that.
Like Best in Da Land.
It was with Callum Best and Fran Cosgrove.
Remember Fran Cosgrove?
Oh, God, yeah.
These men.
And it was called...
He became inexplicably famous
because he was a bodyguard for Westlife or something.
But the TV show was them traveling around the US, I think, and it was called Callum Fran and Dangerous Danann.
Anyway, what were you going to say about Paul Danann?
I think it was Danann who was posting on Instagram, and it was these massive exposés about the sugar babes and stuff.
Yeah, I remember that, yeah.
It was really unhelpful stuff.
Yeah. That was a good couple of weeks. Very enjoyable. I, the sugar babes and stuff. Yeah, I remember that, yeah. It was really unhelpful stuff. Yeah.
That was a good couple of weeks.
Very enjoyable.
I think that is a really interesting time.
I might read that, actually.
I'll grab it on the Kindle
and give it a bash.
It shouldn't take me long
to read it based on the anecdotes
that Jordan's recommended there,
but that would be fun.
Pre-camera phone, man.
Pre-camera phone.
Fun.
It's like,
I find it quite interesting recently
when Sharon Osbourne, who, of course, fun. Fun. It's like, I find it quite interesting recently when Sharon Osbourne,
who of course was the judge on some of these things,
and Amanda Holden had a big bust up
and Sharon Osbourne's put down of Holden was sensational.
Because Holden said in the bust up something like,
oh, Osbourne's only done what she's done
because she's in Simon Cowell's pocket
and then Sharon Osbourne
who admittedly
probably isn't blameless in this
I think it all comes from the celebrity big brother
where her and Louis Walsh
were gossiping about everyone
and Holden got offended
Osbourne then listed all of her achievements
as an artist manager
before she even met Simon Cowell
obviously she was like the
Ozzy Osbourne's manager
she was managing a load of massive artists
like her for whatever you think about her her management of of rock and roll stars
has garnered something like a hundred million records like she's she's got a massive like
back catalog of stuff she's done i just thought it's quite funny to see her kind of really flex
have a massive flex about it because in a way it's quite weird that she ended up doing that stuff
because she was really like she basically just did metal music really i think for the most part
it's the osborns wasn't it it's the osborns what did it i think jack osborn has a new tv show
every single week uh where he just goes out on ghost adventures but there's just so many like
jack osborns if you were like you know jackass were back with you if you were inhabited like the sort of late 90s
kind of mtv sort of thing like you it's it's amazing how much work you can get you know
no one thinks about jack osborne no one thinks about kelly osborne but they'll work probably
later than the dad ever did you know just because they were famous at a really at a really important
time where there was only a few channels.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
Big channels.
But Sharon Osbourne
basically co-founded Ozfest
with Ozzy Osbourne
and at one point
she was managing Motorhead,
Ozzy Osbourne
and the Smashing Pumpkins.
I wouldn't fuck with that.
Nah, exactly.
I wouldn't fuck with that.
Although that would be
a good bonus episode of the show.
You fucking around.
Have you interviewed Sharon Osbourne?
Again, it's like the spoon
in the bathroom
I've got no cause
to use it
but you used to do everything
I've got no cause
to interview
Sharon Osbourne
it doesn't mean
you didn't stop you before
yeah but she was
in very much her
she wasn't in her
metal generation
she was very much
in her
I've done you know
the Smashing Pumpkins
a few times
but she was very much
you and Billy
kind of bonding
over wrestling
yeah a little bit yeah I think yeah he's got like it's but you and Billy you and Billy kind of bonding over wrestling yeah
a little bit
yeah
I think
yeah he's got
some funny opinions
he's
he's
as a wrestling
promoter
and outside
I always found
that quite a rogue
move from him
I was very surprised
actually quite pleasantly
surprised to see
that he was well
into it
yeah well
I think he sort of
he made the point
that wrestling
has always accepted
him but rock
rock and roll hasn't which I think is a nice point that wrestling has always accepted him but rock and roll
hasn't
which I think is a
nice sort of
that is funny
he did make some
horrific people
champions in his
company
for which he'll
never be forgiven
all the wrestling
company in America
no exactly
alright then
that's about it for us
we've been Luke and
Pete Shaw
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doing more of this really.
Yeah.
Talking about
Captain Tom.
Captain Tom's house
is up for sale
so we are starting
a Just Giving
GoFundMe
to buy it
for Luke and Pete's
show Enterprises.
We're going to make an HQ.
We're going to make a spa.
No, we'll just buy it for ourselves
and then not give anyone
their money back.
In the true spirit
of Captain Tom
and his
when we speak next
you'll be back from
Cornwall so it'll be
interesting to hear
how you got on
well see if I've put
my foot through
another ceiling
yeah fingers crossed
see you later
ta-ta
fingers crossed
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