The Luke and Pete Show - Can we please have our money back?
Episode Date: January 23, 2023In some classically poor Luke and Pete Show admin, Luke has a gift for Pete on today's show that he was due to give him 2 months ago.In similarly poor levels of admin, Pete gets a takeaway delivered t...o him in the middle of today’s recording and an anonymous listener gets in touch to tell us that they worked for a delivery company that accidentally managed to lose half a million quid. Oh dear…Do you have your own story for the consumer advice daddies? Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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happy birthday tiffany amber theusen i remember um um the tv show saved by the bell hope you're
having a lot of fun with your friend zach morris um uh bj mr bel Screech the late great Screech
and everyone else really
I suppose
in the
Jessie Spano
which she's not
off her head on pills
like she usually is
what are you talking about
what
Jessie Spano
she's always off her head
on pills
pet pills
so she can study
for the big test
who remembers
I'm so excited
who remembers
Tiffany Amber Pearson's
turn in
the 1999 vehicle Speedway
Junkie?
Crime drama written and directed by
Nicholas Perry
Now Speedway, is it the sports
Speedway or just a road
Speedway, a Speedway road
Don't really know anything about it, I just saw it on there and thought
that looks like an interesting romp
I can't remember anything else Tiffany Amber Pearson, when you said that then
I only just stopped myself instantly saying, Baywatch.
Was she in Baywatch?
I don't think she was.
She was in, I think, a reboot of 90210.
I think.
Right.
I think she went on to do that.
Good on her.
You never say her out.
The name of that show is The Zip Code of Hartlepool.
It is, yeah.
I mean, it was when I was trying to get into age-gated stuff when I was a kid.
Sometimes you had to type in your zip code.
Oh, your zip code.
Your zip code and your date of birth,
and it was like 90210, baby.
Are all your passwords still 90210?
90210, forever flavor.
Hashtag hang time.
Hashtag get real.
Hashtag cowabunga.
There's only one way to start the Luke and Pete show today,
and that is to do something on an admin level
that I forgot to do many months ago.
Okay.
So when I was over in the US,
I talked a lot about LC's 3D printer, didn't I?
Yeah.
And you seemed pretty interested in that.
I did.
You're interested in 3D printers generally, aren't you?
What's your interest out of 10 in 3D printers?
It's not,
I'm going to submit,
it's not high,
but I think it's fascinating
that it's kind of given,
it's sort of brought
the power back to the people,
I suppose,
a little bit, hasn't it?
You're a man of the world,
you're a man of the people.
Exactly.
And when we were there,
what I didn't tell you was
that me and LC
set the 3D printer
about its work
and we printed you out
a little present.
Do you want it?
I do want it.
Good.
A little wallet.
I saw it on a long lens.
There it is.
The 3D printed card holder, Pete.
Beautiful.
What do you think about that?
I just can't believe
that it has the tensile strength.
It has the strength
of a thousand wallets.
Yeah, it does.
But then it also has...
I think you have to take
that bit of plastic
in the middle out, I think.
You what?
I think there's a bit
in the middle
you have to take out.
No, it's alright.
The fibres will be fine.
Oh, that bit in the middle.
Yeah, I've got to separate
the fibres there.
Yeah.
Oh, so it's like
a little sort of mess.
So you've got to get
a knife in there,
dig it around and pull out.
Which is your favourite
thing to do,
whatever it is.
I love jamming a knife in there.
You've just seen it
with a beef joint.
I've just seen him there.
Yeah, it's fantastic.
There you go.
It's really good stuff.
That's from LC via me.
I'll file down those,
I'll file down those fibres,
those tendrils.
That's the most recent present
LC's given you
since that NASA t-shirt.
It's very lightweight as well.
Thank you very much, LC.
That's very kind of you.
He says,
I mean, he's not here,
but he would say,
undoubtedly,
you're very welcome.
He's welcome.
Yeah. So what welcome. Yeah.
So what a great start.
What a lovely start.
And what else would you like to see LC3D print for you?
I don't know.
A little figurine of you.
Some self-respect.
Some self-respect.
Remember when I made that...
New career.
Remember when I sent off for that 3D printed picture
of Jim Campbell from the Ramble?
Campbell from the Ramble.
Yeah, what happened to it?
It was like a bust, wasn't it?
It's in my house and it keeps,
every time I get something new on the shelves,
my partner sort of moves it further back.
So he's kind of retreating into the shelf.
You don't want that to not make the full journey to Jim, do you?
I mean, for some reason, why would that stay in your house?
No, I don't know.
Well, I think I showed him and Jim, he didn't want it.
He was disappointed in me.
He was like,
he basically said,
why this?
Why this now?
Why have you done this?
But I scanned his head
using my mobile phone
and then, yeah,
we printed out
a little Jim Campbell.
Because Jim's quite,
not nervous,
because that sounds mean,
but quite a sensitive person.
Yeah.
And so he probably
immediately thinks,
why are you doing that?
Yeah.
What's the reason for that?
I think Jim,
compared to someone
like Jules Breach,
professionally,
I would say,
has nothing to lose.
And that's only comparing
him to Jules Breach,
right?
Why?
Because Jules is so good?
Jules is so good.
Well, no,
she's got a lot of jobs.
You know,
she's got a lot of people
who could,
you could put out a job.
That's a really mean
thing to say about Jim.
That's not at all.
Like, as in,
like, Jules has got
like lots of, like, you know, jobs that she could get in trouble from.
Jim's kind of eked out a career where he's nobody's boss.
Eked out.
He's not got a boss, basically.
Yeah.
But Jules, because she's on loads of different TV stations,
she does have to be careful about what she says sometimes.
Sometimes, right?
And so when working with Jim and Jules,
what makes me laugh is the last time we had
something a bit spicy in the show.
What was it?
Jim, I can't remember,
but Jim was really worried about it.
Right.
I think it might have been salt beer
throwing salt on Pele.
Pele's corpse.
And Jules was laughing her head off
and she wasn't bothered about it,
but Jim was.
Right.
And I remember sort of thinking Jim
who's going to tell you off
yeah
you're more scared of people on Twitter
than you are
an actual boss
and I think that's topsy-turvy
quite frankly
so what does that mean
for the bust that you got him
he doesn't want it
no
it's in my house
and I just worry about it
in his defence though
it's quite weird
having a bust of yourself
in your own house
I'm not stabbing it or anything.
No, but I mean for him.
I haven't damaged the eyes.
No, for him.
Well, like a voodoo doll.
No, someone turns up at his house and it's the first time they've been to his house
and he's got a bust of himself.
Like some kind of, you know, like Brendan Rogers type character.
That would be very, again, as everything I've just said,
it's kind of everything's, that would be out of character I think for Jim.
He's not a man who's up himself, is he? Are you saying it would be out of character, I think, for Jim. He's not a man who's up himself, is he?
Would you say it would be out of character for me?
Maybe.
To a lesser extent.
Let's make that very clear.
Peter, one of the best things to happen...
Rory, my food's here.
Can you go and grab it?
Why did you do a delivery when we were about to record?
Because you usually piss about. So I was like, well, I've probably got ten minutes. What do you mean to record? I didn't, because you usually piss about,
so I was like,
well, I've probably got 10 minutes.
What do you mean by that?
I didn't have 10 minutes.
What do you mean?
You always go,
I'm just going for a wee,
or I'll go for a cup of tea,
or I'll go and talk to somebody.
I've got a phone call.
There's always something,
which is fine.
Put those things in order
that you're less annoyed about.
What do you mean?
What are you most annoyed about?
I want you to never piss again.
I just want a big balloon.
Jim goes for pisses a lot.
He does, yeah.
He's a notable pisser.
Do you get up in the middle of the night
and need to go for a piss?
No, never.
I don't either.
No, I'm quite pleased with my...
But that's quite rare for men of our age.
It is, yeah.
It is, yeah.
I always go to bed with an almost full bladder.
I'm just like,
I'm going to fucking duke this out with my own bladder.
I'm going to be like,
I'm going to wake up every five minutes and go and chittery go to the loo. Oh no, so you do need like, I'm going to fucking duke this out with my own bladder. I'm going to be like, I'm going to wake up
every five minutes
going,
should really go to the loo.
Oh no,
so you do need to,
you just refuse to go.
Well,
I'll go for what?
You'll get bladder,
you'll get one out of me
an hour before we go to bed
but I'm not getting up again
until I wake up
covered in my own piss.
Do you,
what's your kind of
general kind of
hydration routine
in the hours
preceding bedtime
I think since
I've got a
soda stream
it's
it's really
took its toll
on how much
I need a piss
right
because what I'll do
is I'll cook food
and I'll put loads
of like MSG
or it'll be a Chinese
or it'll be KFC
so it'll be something
very salty
and then about
two hours later
I'm like
fucking hell I'm like,
fucking hell,
I'm so thirsty.
How has this happened?
What kind of recipes have you done on the soda stream?
Just water.
Just fizzy water.
But I give it,
they recommend like three pumps.
I like,
I'll bang it like six.
So that when you actually kind of, you take it out of the machine,
release it from its pressure.
It takes your breath away.
Because it's just pure carbon dioxide
yeah
yeah
it's exciting though isn't it
yeah
don't bring it into the studio Rory
you can't eat it in here
for goodness sake
yes
delicious
for goodness sake
delicious
thank you Rory
yeah
that's way outside your
job description
but thank you
we should not
if there's any employment lawyers listening
you should be not
you should not be doing that
thank you very much though yeah on Pete's behalf I make you a cup of tea every morning so have some respect Thank you. If there's any employment lawyers listening, you should not be doing that.
Thank you very much, though, on Pete's behalf.
I make you a cup of tea every morning,
so have some respect.
But making tea's all right, isn't it? Making tea's all right, isn't it?
I've had three this morning.
I made one on my own.
One on your own?
For yourself?
Yeah.
Oh, sorry.
Prince Charles with the new pair of socks every day.
Fuck off.
I've got the fingers as well,
which is why I can't make my own tea,
because my fingers are just like King Charles' fingers.
Yeah, big sausages.
I was telling my sister
about that the other
day and I said to her,
you know about King
Charles's fingers?
She's like, no.
Yeah.
And I was like, it's a
thing.
It's a thing, isn't it?
It's the fingers, yeah.
It's a thing.
She's like, oh, show
me a picture.
I showed her a picture
and she was like,
well, that's photoshopped.
I was like, that's not
as real as his actual
fingers.
And I realised I was
actually showing her the
one of someone who
photoshopped it with the
sausages.
Oh, right.
And I undermined
my own argument.
She didn't know
what was up
and what was down
after that.
That's her first
exposure to the fingers.
Yeah.
Maybe she might think
they are actually
sausages.
I don't know.
But do you reckon
he's sort of like,
do you reckon he,
you know like those
bodybuilders,
you know those shit
bodybuilders that
aren't actually
bodybuilders,
they don't do
any work and all,
but they inject
their muscles with
that Lysol oil,
that kind of oil stuff.
It's like a weird oil solution, yeah.
Yeah, it's weird oil.
And, you know,
bodybuilders do that anyway
to give them a bit of pop
at a competition.
You don't want to pop them, do you?
You don't want to pop them.
I mean, they look,
I mean, most of them
just get fucking horrible cysts,
but they sort of,
but they just keep injecting
because it pumps up the muscle.
But they just look like these out, like, really sort of mischievous and monstrousing because it pumps up the muscle. But they just look like these really sort of
mischief and monstrous things.
And they're pretending that they're sort of working out all the time.
Look at my muscles. Should you be laughing about that though?
Yes. Isn't it a disorder?
What do you mean? Body dysmorphia kind of disorder, isn't it?
Well, I think, well, you sort of
go and look at people who sort of have bad
like just go overdo it with
the old botulism, you know what I mean? It's vanity at the end go overdo it with the old damn botulism
you know what I mean
it's like it's vanity
at the end of the day
isn't it
botulism
do you mean Botox
yeah
what do you think Botox is
botulism
is it
yeah
injecting fucking
botulism into your face
I didn't know that was a thing
is that a thing
yeah it makes the body go
oh god
I'm gonna
I'm gonna puff out the old
puff out the old face
like Brooklyn Beckham's
cooking channel
what
yeah I mean yeah I mean, that steak that he cooked looked awful.
Even for you.
Even for me.
You love it raw, don't you?
Baby, I like it raw.
So one of the best times of the year, I think we can all agree,
was that last week London Zoo started their annual stock take.
Right.
Okay. Like Noah. take. Right. Okay.
So it's going like Noah.
Yeah.
Exactly like Noah.
Although he had his work bed a lot easier for him
because he only had two of everything.
So it was pretty easy.
But every year, the zookeepers at London Zoo,
they count the thousands of animals at London Zoo.
And it looks like an amazing job.
And I'd like to,
the problem is,
I guess you can't pick and choose.
Because if I turned up and volunteered,
and I said,
I just want to do.
The stock take.
The chimps.
Right.
No, not just the stock take.
You wouldn't even do the full stock take.
I ain't doing the centipedes.
The crickets.
The crickets?
No.
Did I tell you I once,
so I told you about my annual month,
it was a monthly thing for a year,
taskmaster thing my mate said.
You've told this story three times on this podcast.
What, crickets?
People are going to kill you.
Crickets?
Yeah.
Okay, yeah.
It's good though, isn't it?
This isn't like you.
I'm the one who forgets things and repeats stuff,
but I would usually let you do it,
but I think it's three times now.
Now I frighten myself.
Anyway, back to the stock take.
You bought a load of crickets on the internet.
Yeah.
Bad guy.
And sent them to someone.
Bad lad.
You're a bad lad.
Imagine if it was an invasive species.
They shouldn't be selling them then.
You're like Jimi Hendrix's parakeets.
That's not my responsibility.
If I'm going to buy animals,
I want the law to have taken care of that.
What do you mean?
As in in like,
you need to be protected from yourself effectively.
No, I just think
that I should be operating
within the parameters
of what's acceptable.
Right, okay.
I'm not going to go
and buy something from,
you know,
from sub-Saharan Africa
or something
and bring it here
or from Australia.
If you can buy it
at pets at home,
you're allowed to port it
to somebody.
If it's a UK address
and I've bought it from a UK-based site,
I should be scot-free, shouldn't I?
Yeah, but I mean, there's degrees, isn't there?
Like, if you went to a butcher's and bought half a fucking cow, right?
Or half a pig or whatever, right?
I'm fairly certain you can do that.
You always see a man up at the back.
You always see a man up.
Just give us one of them.
And you just threw it into a Yorkshire bank
like that's
I mean that's not
necessarily win the lot
but it's not like
a confusing crime
people would be like
what's the angle here
exactly
so what have they
been up to
what have the Yorkshire
bank been up to
I don't know
but I would say
that like
you can do it
like you've bought
the pig
and you've thrown it
in the Yorkshire
and you've carried it around the York you've carried it around a Yorkshire
bank, right? It's not illegal.
I'm a Santander man by the way. Alright, if you went
on Santander wearing the
carcass like when
the man out of Star Wars climbs in
that beast. Or the guy at the Capitol building
with the... Exactly. So if you wore
the pig's sort of carcass over the top like an
exoskeleton, right? And walked around Santander
going, I just need to process a check.
I just need to process a check.
Yeah, exactly. And so
he's bringing checks.
Old relatives.
What are you doing for them?
Yeah, it's
legal, but it's kind of like,
this is a bit naughty.
It's a bit antisocial, I think.
I should have got a whole pig carcass
and posted that to someone.
Yeah.
Instead.
That's more threatening, though, isn't it?
Filled with crickets.
Genuinely, they are both vegetarians as well.
So I couldn't have done that.
Well, at least they were alive animals.
But it's just a nuisance.
And you've consigned those crickets
to a confusing end of their lives.
Would you like the zookeeper's job of the stock take?
I would, but I think I would very much like some guarantees
that if it all went wrong, I wouldn't be held accountable.
Because if you had like three tigers and then you've only got two,
I don't want to know, I'm leaving.
I'm leaving immediately.
I'm like, where's that one gone?
No, we did them this morning.
We've definitely got three.
What's going on?
I don't know why they need to do it for everyone,
every species.
What do you mean?
As in like...
Does it matter if they've got 19 penguins or 20?
I think you've got...
Yeah, but you've got to buy...
Presumably you don't feed fish individually,
so you'd have to measure so you can up or down
their amount of food that you're giving them every day.
But what I'm saying is...
You can't feed 20 penguins with 19 penguins' amount of food.
But if one of them's gone missing, they should have noticed before that.
They're going to be...
You can't rely on that once a year.
What happens if they die in February?
What are you going to think?
11 months to realise.
Nothing's as good as skinny penguin feels.
Looky more over there.
No, but what I'm saying is,
okay, penguins is a poor example.
What about butterflies in the butterfly house?
Right, okay.
How are you keeping a handle on that anyway?
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know how you,
because they look like stick insects.
I can't find any of them.
Like loads of sticks.
Nobody talks about stick insects anymore.
They were so big
in the 90s
Hartlepool scene
they used to be a big
pet in the 90s
yeah in the 80s
90s
they used to be
horrible looking things
they looked like sticks
they didn't do anything
they were sort of
padded around
but people went
through a phase
because you never
see them naturally
in England
no never
I've never once
but maybe that's the point
why were they here
maybe that's the point
but they're not native to the UK are they no why are they they shouldn't be here we can't just let No, never. I've never once... But maybe that's the point. Why were they here? Maybe that's the point. Yeah.
But they're not native to the UK, are they? No.
Why are they here?
Well, they shouldn't be here.
We can't just let them out.
Yeah, they're not native at all,
I don't think, anyway.
People went through a phase in the 90s
of getting pets
that they didn't have to do anything with.
Right.
That's what happened.
Tamagotchi.
Exactly.
That's the apex,
the apotheosis of the genre.
Right there.
The Tamagotchi,
that's never really made a comeback
or are they still big in Japan
I think they did
I think it did come back
about a year and a half ago
Tamagotchi
Tamagotchi
oh
Tamagotchi
yeah
it's egg
I didn't realise that
that's why it's egg shed
right
what's the otchi bit
at the end
I don't bloody know
you should know this by now
I don't know
and speaking of that
part of the world, by the way,
do you see South Korea have changed the way they measure people's age?
All right.
I never even knew this was a thing.
Yes, yeah.
I would say in Japan it's even more confusing
because people's sort of date of birth depends on what emperor's in fucking power.
Tell me more about that.
What do you mean?
That's the limitations of my knowledge.
Right, okay.
But literally when you see the date of birth,
it sort of says the 43rd year of the Meiji era or whatever.
You know, it's kind of like, it's all...
So they don't use the traditional Christian calendar?
I mean, why should they?
No, I'm not saying they should.
But it's just kind of confusing when I literally was in a cab
with a taxi driver who looked about 99 years old
and his card said he was 99 years old or 89 or something.
I was like, how is he still
driving a cab
but he wasn't actually
quite as old
he just looked like
absolute shit
smoking in his cab
but in South Korea
apparently you are
one year old at birth
yeah
that's adorable
kind of
it does make sense
yeah
in a way
adorable
I'm not saying
I don't want to be
culturally insensitive here
but the world being
the way it is now
it would lend itself
to having a bit of uniformity on that kind of thing
because people move
you can't really get away with that
so it used to be that
and now they've changed to our system
or the system of the rest of the world
have they?
I guess they have
because now it's going to be from birth
which is what everyone else does, I suppose.
Yeah.
I mean, I will say it doesn't matter
because they always look pretty good in Korea.
They look absolutely...
I mean, it helps that plastic surgery is everywhere,
but...
Is it really?
They look absolutely smashing
for the longest time, the Koreans.
It's really...
And plastic surgery is a big cultural thing there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I didn't realise that.
All right, anyway, let's have a quick break.
And when we come back, we are going to do maybe a couple of emails.
We've got a couple of other things in here for people to listen to.
Peter, which is basically the name of the game.
Yeah.
We've also got some consumer and some more consumer advice as well.
So that'll be something to look out for.
So we'll see you in a minute.
It's the Luke of Beach.
I'm Pete Donaldson.
And yeah, keep it short, Luke.
I'm hungry.
Oh, yeah. Bloody yeah. what did you order by the way?
A honey poke, it was kind of weird Hawaiian sort of...
You really do live the brand, you and John love that poke bowl place.
I do, I've got John into it, it's delicious.
Honey, I'm home, it says on the side of the bag.
Dan Heron on Twitter, we are at Luke and Pete Show on Twitter.
You Dan Heron?
Yeah.
You come back here you Dan Heron! Sounds a bit at Luke and Pete on Twitter you Dan Heron yeah you come back here you Dan Heron
sounds a bit like an insult
doesn't it
he said
he's taken issue
with the fact that
a couple of weeks ago
I said Rockset
are better than Pulp
he says Rockset
are better than Pulp
is the maddest thing
I've heard on this podcast
and my god
is that saying something
and can I just
can I just make that
completely agree
can I clarify this
do you mind if I clarify this
I just think it's just
going to be another
torrent of nonsense
yeah it probably will be
so you
right
you might as well
crack open your
pokeball
I said that for a couple
of reasons
one is because
piss me off
more than two reasons
one of them is definitely
to annoy you
because I find it
inexplicable
that you say
Pulp are your favourite band
yeah
but on the one hand
I do kind of get it
because I look at you
and I go yeah
he would like that
kind of stuff that kind of stuff
that kind of stuff
yeah
just like you know
apologetic
beta male
how is it apologetic
it's very beta male
all of the songs
are about him
fucking mums
are they
on Sheffield
council estates
it was him just
basically dressing
himself up as this
legendary swordsman
so I'm coming around
to it now
Sheffield sex city
I find Jarvis Cocker
a bit annoying
yeah he is annoying but you're annoying because you're everywhere aren't you you know this legendary swordsman. I'm coming round to it now. Sheffield, Sac City. I find Jarvis Cocker a bit annoying.
Yeah,
he is annoying,
but you're annoying because you're everywhere,
aren't you?
You know.
Yeah,
he is annoying.
He is annoying.
Yeah.
Fine.
And I also think
the Rocks that have got
stronger singles,
they're much better singles.
They're a much better
singles band than
Pol Pol would say.
I mean,
that's been road tested,
I would say.
I mean,
they're not better
singles band,
but I think they're,
you know,
they're more of a pop a pop they're more of
a pop act they're
more of a
you got very
confused by your
Scandinavian pop
bands on that
episode I did yeah
I cleared it up
you didn't clear it
up that's the thing
you didn't clear it
up it was Asa
Bass man
yeah I know but
I did yeah but as
long as you you're
allowed to say
stuff but as long
as you clear it up
immediately legally
I think it's alright.
But I don't, I didn't feel,
being empathetic for a second,
if I was in,
who was it? Roxette. Roxette's
camp. I'd be annoyed. Yeah. For five minutes
they'd be like, oh, it's fine, it's
fine. On the phone with their lawyer,
it's fine. He meant it's a base.
Yeah, they are wrong. Yeah, I know.
Make it embarrassing us. That's fine. We're guilty by association yeah they are wrong yeah I know make it embarrassing us that's fine
we're guilty by association
what's Peter, Bjorn and John done?
they push through
who into a geezer?
so confusing an analogy
isn't that Iceland?
yeah
it's all up that way isn't it
Sigur Rós
say Sigur Rós
Sigur Rós
they're Icelandic aren't they?
that's what I'm saying
Peter, Bjorn and John
where's Peter, Bjorn and John?
they're not Icelandic mate
well Peter, Bjorn and John where's Peter, Bjorn and John they're not Icelandic mate well Peter, Bjorn and John
yeah
neither are Roxette
oh you're saying
the geezers are from
yeah
are you saying
there's no geezers
in Sweden
surely there's got to be a few
Iceland is known for it
next to a fjord
the only two places I know
from direct experience
about those
do you say geezers
or is it geysers
geysers, geezers
I think Americans
say geezers
geezers is Rot it geysers? Geysers, geezers. I think Americans say geezers.
Geysers.
Is Rotorua in New Zealand and Iceland.
Right.
And I played football for a couple of guys in New Zealand who fell into one of those and really badly burnt his leg.
I mean, what's he doing near it?
He slipped in.
He's about 14 mucking about.
Mucking about near a geezer.
Unbelievable.
Slipped into one.
We've all mucked about near a geezer.
We have, yeah.
Can I change the subject entirely?
Yeah.
And say that you know I'm a fan of the documentary maker Ken Burns.
Yes.
Do you know that or not?
Is he related to Giza Burns?
He did the Vietnam War, which is that nine-part series on Netflix,
and he did the Civil War,
which is a massively famous documentary
series in the US. He's just pulled another one
out. It's on iPlayer now called The US and the Holocaust.
And it is about America's
treatment and
behaviour and activity
around the
treatment of the Jews leading up to the Second World War.
It's very, very interesting.
I recommend it. It's three
two-hour-ish episodes
let me guess
don't cover themselves
in glory
not exactly
no
same way they treat
the Japanese
in the US
that's mentioned
it's not a shiny example
but it's very very interesting
very insightful
and for example
and I learned about this
anyway
before but
it's really interesting
to think
that
in the 19
so obviously the second world war started in 1939.
In the 40s, so after war is broken out in Europe,
there are properly out,
openly anti-Semitic businessmen like Henry Ford
building vehicles for the Nazis.
Yeah.
And the Nazi policy at that time
was because it was a nationalist operation, of course,
was that companies that operated in Germany at that time had to refund their profits back into the country.
Right.
So you weren't allowed to take any profits out.
Okay.
So the point being that for something like Ford, Henry Ford's Ford motor company,
they weren't even doing it for profit.
No.
They were just doing it because...
There was no profit to be had.
Right.
They were just doing it. Yeah. was no profit to be had. Right. They were just doing it.
Yeah.
Isn't that weird?
That is weird.
Given the American
narrative around the fact
that they essentially,
along with the Russians,
helped the West
win the Second World War.
Isn't it so weird
to think about that?
I mean, yeah.
It's just endlessly...
I don't know what
goes wrong in your brain.
Maybe it's like
a fucking night of oxygen
when you're born.
Like,
that anti-Semitism
seems to be
very alluring to people.
Yeah.
It is, isn't it, though?
Consistently.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's like sort of going,
oh, I hate these ghosts.
Like, they have no,
I have no concept
of what,
where,
where it comes from.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, I got, like,
I moved down to London
and I could not tell you who was Jewish
and who wasn't Jewish
and what characteristics anyone held.
And I guess that's just risen.
Was there any Jewish profile in Hartlepool?
There's a Jewish cemetery,
which I didn't even know about.
I just don't know.
Of course there is.
But like, again, you just fucking don't know.
But obviously in London,
you see like Hasidic Jews
and it's just a bit more visible, I guess,
in certain areas, like where Iic Jews and it's a bit more visible I guess in certain areas
like where I used to live
in North London
but like
your treatment of Hasidic Jews
has been well documented
yeah I know
obviously it's just me
trying to atone
for my hate crime
several feet in the air
several thousand feet
which doesn't make it okay
international airspace
is not an excuse
work for the money plan
that's all I'm saying
for popping a blister
all over a Jewish lady
popping a blister all over a Jewish lady anyway itping a blister all over a Jewish lady, yeah.
Anyway, it's worth watching.
If you're looking for something to watch
and you're torn around on the iPlayer,
I would recommend that.
Obviously not a very heartwarming story,
but an interesting one nonetheless.
My wife always laughs at me,
says I only ever watch stuff like that.
Grim stuff.
I don't know why.
Maybe I am interested in that kind of thing.
Maybe because my life is pretty good.
Pretty good, yeah.
Yeah. Maybe. Anyway, here's good. Pretty good, yeah. Yeah.
Maybe.
Anyway, here's another email.
We want to keep anonymous about Wayfair.
Okay.
It's more Wayfair.
I've already tapped into something here.
No, you've just mentioned Wayfair.
So everybody else who's got...
We're not fucking Watchdog.
I feel like Dominic Littlewood.
It's a potential death trap.
The little bald fella.
I feel like him.
And a bit of Martin Lewis
alright yeah cool
Martin Lewis is doing
a podcast on the BBC now
is he?
what's he up to?
ironically he can make
loads more money
doing it outside of the BBC
money saving expert
yeah
fucking Lewis you idiot
you're saving the BBC money
by doing that on a retainer
do it for Santander
yeah do it for
for any podcast company
that isn't the BBC
he says hi Luke
I mean it's going to be a man isn't it um he says hi like i mean it's gonna be a
man isn't it so he says hi luke and pete please keep me anonymous because um i don't want people
to know who i am off the back of luke's experience with wafer i wanted to share a story of how i can
completely believe wafer managed to fuck up like this and i can imagine luke was one of thousands
who experienced the same thing meaning wafer have lost out big time um the company i work for does
deliveries for various furniture companies
and one of the services we offer is a seven-day delivery service where customers can pay for home
delivery to arrive within seven days of the order the day they make the booking is cast as day zero
within our company so technically it's eight days after the booking is made when a customer pays we
take a pre-authorization for the full delivery fee from the customer's card,
which is held by our payment provider company until the delivery has been marked as completed.
We almost always waited the full seven days to deliver,
so we could batch as many items together in certain areas to maximise the route efficiency.
This is eight days after the customer has placed the booking.
However, our payment provider only holds the full delivery fee for a maximum of seven days.
So by delivering eight days after the customer placed the order, our card authorisation has expired,
meaning we couldn't take the payment when the delivery was marked as completed.
No one in our company picked up on this for over two years,
meaning that for tens of thousands of deliveries, we never actually took the payment,
totaling over half a million pounds of revenue in two years. Come on.
I love when really successful companies
have these massive fucking holes in them.
I love them.
Love it.
He finishes by saying,
our company decided that it would be a good idea
to message all these customers,
some a full two years after the event,
and ask them to pay for their delivery retrospectively.
It's safe to say,
not many people did.
Not many people paid.
How is that? It's so good. Good luck with that one, big man. I would have paid in full. Not many people paid. How is that?
It's so good.
Good luck with that one, big man.
I would have paid in full.
I would have paid double.
Would you?
Yeah.
What, because of the confrontation?
Scared of the police.
The police aren't going to be bothered with that.
The police are going to come round and go, give them £20.
As we heard about on the football round the other day, they're targeting people who are
illegally streaming Premier League games.
They are, yeah.
They've got time.
That's the thing about that kind of thing.
That's why I ran the gauntlet with Enterprise.
Yeah.
They'll walk away eventually.
They've got...
Have they got...
Have ACARs and the advertising companies
now got the AI thing
where they can listen to stuff
to hear what you're talking about
and then target their advertising
more effectively?
Not quite yet.
It's fine.
Because bloody warfare.
There's a good chance
Enterprise could come up on this.
You reckon?
And they could go... They've mentioned Enterprise all the time. We should advertise on the show. Oh, really? And Enterprise could come up on this. You reckon? And they could go,
they've mentioned
Enterprise all the time
we should advertise
on the show.
Oh really?
And it'll be the
opposite won't it?
Yeah okay.
It'll be me telling
people to not use
Enterprise.
Which they shouldn't.
Who's on the shit
list?
Wayfair and Enterprise.
My friend Duncan's
got an amazing
blacklist of companies
that he sticks to.
Okay.
Nice.
Okay.
Like religiously.
Yeah but.
One of them is Amazon.
Really?
And he's never used them.
That is making your life quite difficult in 2023,
one would suggest.
It's a running joke with us.
Right.
You can't ever send like,
he has to really think about birthday presents,
where he'd get them from and stuff.
That's a nightmare.
Otherwise British Airways,
he's got a big thing about them.
I quite like British Airways,
it's always been good to me.
One of them he took on behalf of someone else
because they were
rude to his friend's
disabled mother.
And that's Marks and
Spencer's.
Can I say all this
stuff?
This is not slanderous
is it?
No.
I mean again with a
lot of these kind of
like fringed situations
I sort of go I'd love
to see it in court.
Yeah.
I mean if we got a
car it'd be good for
us wouldn't it?
You have a bit of
trivia
apart from the
swimming
yeah
the money we got
to pay out
the other bit of
the trivia about him
is that he lives in
the same road as
Justin Lee Collins
remember him
yes okay nice
okay yeah
what's he up to now
just I was getting
people sending me
crickets I imagine
I don't know
wrong address
wrong address
I bought myself a
moisture meter
today on Amazon
what's that for
to detect moisture.
I understand that.
Why did you buy it?
Because they've got rising damp in the back room,
which was clearly covered up by a previous owner.
Didn't come up in the survey?
No, because they're a waste of money.
Well, no, it did come up.
And the previous owner explained it away
as there used to be a radiator behind it.
A radiator?
It might have fucking helped.
It might have dried out a bit
yeah
speaking of the
survey we had a
massive crack open
up in our house
after that drought
in the summer
right
and the guy came
and looked at it
and he was like
to the untrained
eye
it looks bad
yeah
but you don't want
it
you're like
that's a crack
all the way through
the wall of my
house
what as in like the bricks?
Yeah.
Complete, wow.
There's a filet of giraffe
and everything.
Whoa.
Yeah.
That's exciting.
Yeah, it's covered by
home insurance,
but he said that,
it's one of those things,
isn't it?
If you, I don't know,
if you're a doctor
and you see a broken leg,
you're like, okay.
Piece of piss.
Yeah.
If you and I see a broken leg,
that should not look like that.
That's on the wrong way.
Yeah.
And he turned up and was like,
oh, yeah, that's fine.
It'll be all right.
Knit the brickwork back together.
I'll be fine.
Knit the brickwork back together.
Yeah, they put these hexagonal kind of ties in.
Right.
And it encourages it to close up
and then they plaster it.
Like a broken ball?
Cement it.
Yeah, basically, yeah.
Exciting.
He was saying to me, this guy,
as a running thread on this show.
Was it cracked through the bricks
or were the bricks still...
What part of this can't you grasp?
The crack.
Was it like,
were the bricks individually cracked
or was it just a separation of the mortar?
Individually cracked.
Whoa.
So through the thick outside wall.
Well, what's happened is it's built...
You're trying to do that Levi's advert from the 90s.
It's got to run through the wall. No one will get that. it's built on London clay. You can try to do that Levi's advert from the 90s. Try to run through the wall.
No one will get
that.
No one will get
that.
It's because the
house is built on
London clay and it
dried out in the
drought in the
summer and it
moved and it
cracked the brick
work.
What happens is,
what tends to
happen when it
starts to moisten
again, it expands
and the crack
closes a bit.
So if you listen
to this and you've
got a crack in
your brick work,
get someone
professional to look at it
because you cannot
just fill it yourself.
No.
If you fill it yourself
and it closes again,
it's bad news.
Don't do that.
Right.
So you've got to wait
for it to settle, basically,
and then it can be repaired.
But the guy who turned up,
who obviously I found
quite an interesting fellow.
Who did you ring?
Like a builder's firm?
They put your home insurance
come, call your house insurance.
And they recommend someone
or they just bring them in?
They sent someone. They sent a loss adjuster out and a building expert, a structural can call your house insurance. And they recommend someone? They send someone.
They send a loss adjuster out and a building expert,
a structural engineer.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
And I said to him, you do a lot of these claims.
And he said, look, in South East London, it's everywhere.
So basically my whole day, every day is taken up by this.
It's just brick.
And he said to me earlier this morning,
I was at a house and it had a crack in it so big
I could put my hand through it.
Nice.
And he said, but the houses are so well built around here
they won't fall down or anything.
It just needs to be fixed
because it looks a bit rubbish.
Yeah.
And it's a draft.
There's a draft coming through basically.
Whoa.
That's exciting.
It was quite exciting
but my wife was really upset about it.
That's our house.
Yeah.
That's our house, Luke.
But the point I was going to make
is that that didn't come up in the survey.
No.
At no point in the survey,
which I fucking read
because it was the first house I bought, did they is that that didn't come up in the survey. No. At no point in the survey, which I fucking read,
because it was the first house I bought,
did they say it's built on this subsiding London clay.
And no one said that.
No.
And also I had to have the roof fixed as well about three years after I moved in.
So they're not doing anything, these fuckers. They're just ticking boxes.
That's why you're rising damp.
That's why you're rising damp, sort of.
Didn't get detected at all, Peter.
Got to drill a big hole in the fucking wall now.
Are you going to do that yourself?
Oh, Donnie's going to fix it, baby.
You're not going to get
a bigger boy?
Nah.
I've got some damp-proofing rods
I'm going to fucking
drill the fuck out of the wall.
Do you know what
a damp-proofing rod is?
Looks like a glue stick.
And is your partner
I think, yeah,
I think this one
might,
I think this one
was the one that worried
me the most
out of all the things.
You're still doing it anyway?
I'm doing it anyway.
Got to drill, haven't I?
When are you doing it?
Tomorrow.
Report back.
Report back.
That'll be great.
Yeah.
I think I'll be fine.
I'm going to test it.
When I get back off holiday, I'll test it again,
see if the rising damp has dried out a bit.
So you drill a hole in, put these little glue sticks in.
So these glue sticks, I think it's like a chemical
that will spread out across the mortar in a line effectively.
They'll just discourage water from rising from the floor, the depths, the briny depths.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
You've got my support there.
I can't wait to see how that turns out.
Well, bearing in mind, when I pulled off the skirting board to install these rods,
they'd clearly packed up a hole
in the wall
with some shit cement
and where the mortar
had come out of
between some of the bricks
they'd just jammed
a bit of wood in
like a shiv
just put a bit of wood in
don't do anything
you're not comfortable with
Jesus Christ
I'm comfortable with everything
she actually said that
don't do anything
a normal person
wouldn't be comfortable with
right let's get out of here
go and get your
go and get your go get your poke bowl
um we'll see you all
next time um thank you
very much for listening
hello at luke and
peter.com is the email
address um keep sending
your consumer your
consumer subjects in
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goodbye peter
bye bye
goodbye from me too. Bye-bye.
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