The Luke and Pete Show - Daddy Cool
Episode Date: December 4, 2023A listener, Martyn, caused quite a stir in the Luke and Pete Show community a few weeks ago by sending a photo of what appeared to be a fridge built into a fence.Today, Martyn is back with a much-need...ed update on the situation. Elsewhere, Luke tells Pete all about his trip to America and the latest 3D printing antics from stateside. He also offers Pete a brand new scarf. But not from the 3D printer.Want to get in touch with the show? Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow.We're also now on Tiktok! Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow. Subscribe to our YouTube HERE.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Oh, it's the Luke and Pete Shaw on Monday the 4th of December.
I'm Pete Donaldson. I'm joined by Disco Lukey Moor.
How are you doing, Lukey Moor?
It's probably my least favourite genre of music, Disco.
I think that it's one of those genres that people tell you you should respect,
but I just can't get on board.
I appreciate, you know what respect, but I just can't get on board. I just cannot get on board.
I appreciate, you know what, Pete?
I very much appreciate the emancipation of, you know,
homosexuality music and all this kind of stuff.
It's a great thing.
It's an amazing scene for lots of different reasons.
Yeah.
I just don't think the music's very good.
No.
What is the band that has the brother and the two sisters?
Why are we doing this already?
Cryptic crossword.
It's the disco.
They sang a song about Rasputin.
Rah, rah, Rasputin.
Oh, Boney M.
Boney M.
Now.
I didn't know they were brothers and sisters, were they?
Yeah, I think so.
I think he was the...
Oh, maybe I've just confused...
I think I've just confused that meme where it says,
if you're going to go dancing, you've got to bring your brother.
And the man is doing mad dancing and they're just kind of...
Guys, if you're listening to this show, I'm with you.
If you're listening for the first time, I apologise.
I wish I could tell you it gets more coherent than this. No. But it does not.
And that's part of the charm.
That's,
we're not even,
what are we?
What are we?
What are we?
Not even two minutes in.
Nice hit.
And I'm seriously considering
restarting the show.
No, no,
you never do that.
You have a policy
of never doing that.
Double doon.
Yeah.
Boreum,
I like the bit where he just gets to do what he wants and shit
they were german i think weren't they and and and the two girls uh they they basically it reminds
me of my relationship with my partner when i met her um she was at absolute radio and we were both
hosting the isle of wight festival and i sat down i'd only been in were you courting were you
courting no no years ago years
ago years ago and um and we were both doing the isle of wight festival and i looked over and she
was very professional and i was like i'm gonna get found out i've only been doing absolute radio for
a week that's been the story of your whole career right yeah yeah massively you look over and you
go i'm gonna get found out she's uh out. She seems to know what she's doing.
And I'm very much the boy from Born EM just going,
oh, I'm the boy from, oh, it's Absolute Radio.
That's basically what's happening.
You're like Mohammed Al-Fayed on the Ali G show.
Yeah, just pointing, saying my name,
don't really know what's going on
so that's how I felt
when I was full of it
and I had
somehow engineered
my way onto national radio
after doing the show
and university
and all the rest of it
and then got sat
next to Danny Kelly
it was like broadcasting
in a fucking wind tunnel
honestly
I was like
first of all
how have we got an hour in
I've said nothing
and this is me
we're talking about
I basically feel
the space boss of any other shit
have you not clued yourself in
have you not hacked your way in
like a
like a madman
I know
it was
it was an education
to say the least
but what a legend
I actually think
Danny Kelly's a national treasure
he deserves a lot more credit
than he gets
and do you know what
I said this to him
over a pint once
those of you who are listening
from a different country
don't know who Danny Kelly is
he's a brilliant broadcaster
you can google him and you'll be able to find
everything you need to know. But anyway, I
said to him once, in my
view, Danny Kelly, you're better than
Danny Baker, right? Danny Baker's
massive, you're not. You've got the same agent.
He's been a commercial radio
stalwart for all that time and that's cost him.
Yeah, but I'll tell you what else has cost him
according to him, right?
Killed a producer. Yeah, but I'll tell you what else has cost him, according to him, right? And I have to get on with it. He killed a producer.
No, no.
It's much more interesting than that, believe it or not.
Wow.
So you know the famous photo of Danny Baker,
Chris Evans, and Paul Gascoyne boozing?
One of the most 90s photos ever.
Yeah.
It catapulted Danny Baker.
Chris Evans was doing his thing, I think, anyway,
and he's obviously just a superstar anyway. Jimmy Fight Babies? It catapulted Danny Baker, right Evans was doing this thing, I think, anyway, and he's obviously just a superstar anyway.
Jimmy Fight Babies?
Catapulted Danny Baker, right?
Guess who's sat next to them,
but is cut out of the photo for editorial reasons in the sun?
Danny Kelly.
Danny Kelly.
He's cut out of the photo.
I want to see the original then.
I want to see how youthful he looks.
He jokingly said to me once,
I reckon that one decision from the image editor to snip me out of that photo has probably cost me over a million quid.
Yeah, it's probably right.
I imagine, I would say that, you know, like in Police Squad on Naked Gun Films where they've got one, they're in the precinct and there's one policeman that's way taller than everyone else.
Yeah.
And he's got a bit of banana on the side of your mouth and he did half a banana drops into interview danny kelly's just too tall
for that shot like everyone's in that shot is around about five nine five ten and danny kelly's
like my heart danny kelly's quite tall so i think that i think it was just a thing rather than it
was a whip but but the two best lines from police squad can can I tell you them? One is when Leslie Nielsen's character, I can't remember the name of him now,
walks up to a door, a front door of a house, knocks on it and a woman answers.
And she obviously gets upset and terrified because she sees a police officer at a door.
She knows it's going to be bad news.
And he says, ma'am, I would have come earlier, but your husband wasn't dead then.
That's a great line.
And the second...
Locksmith?
The locksmith line is the greatest line
in the history of comedy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Where he walks into the mayor's office
and the mayor says to him,
who are you and how did you get in here?
And he says,
I'm a locksmith
and well, I'm a locksmith.
That's just so good.
If you wrote that,
you'd just take off the rest of the year.
Do you know what?
That's proper jokes.
That's proper...
That's proper... That can be told anywhere in proper jokes. That's proper... That's proper...
That can be told
anywhere in the world.
That's chops.
That is chops.
That is chops.
They'll always be locks.
In comedy and music,
there's a phenomenon
which I've identified.
I don't know if anyone
identified it before me,
probably.
But I feel very passionately
about it.
There's a lot of comedians
out there who can't do jokes,
who are scared of jokes.
Right.
And there's a lot of musicians
out there who are scared
of melodies, right? And I would say, if you can drill an art form comedians out there who can't do jokes, skedder jokes, and there's a lot of musicians out there who skedder melodies.
I would say, if you can drill an art form down to
its essence, and
face that essence, which is quite intimidating,
without fear or favour,
head on and deliver,
as far as I'm concerned,
you're a legend in that fucking sphere.
I would have a lot more respect,
I do have a lot more respect, I do have a lot more respect,
for Carly Rae Jepsen and her songwriting partner
who came up with Call Me Maybe
than I do for any kind of
wank-off radio head side project.
I'm not saying it's not good,
I'm not saying it's not great art
and all the rest of it,
and they would say they're expanding
and exploring that genre
and their type of music to this natural extreme which is of course artistic but i think i don't know why i chose redhead
really but there's artists out there who just obfuscate who obfuscate around yeah when they
because they haven't got the ability to do it and i think it's the same with comedians a lot of
comedians not just not i don't mean just new comedians i mean comedians generally you know
there's a lot to be said for a Bob Monk house
the guy used to write
like 50 jokes a fucking day
I'll say
we were at a gig
last weekend
was it James Acaster?
no it was on Sunday
we went to the Absolute Radio Live
and Frank Skinner
did you go with Nelson the Dog
did you?
you're not working there anymore
well no but Sarah always
gets the tickets
and so I go
and it's like
so there was like
loads of different
acts on
and I'm not going
to name any of them
because one of them
in particular
has worked with us
and it was interesting
that Frank Skinner
oh I think I know
who that is
Frank Skinner
who's been on the
email me
and I'll tell you
has been doing it
for such a long time
yeah
him just working a room
yeah I bet it's amazing
and also just having
an encyclopedia
Bob Monkhouse-esque
database of material
for whatever situation
he's in
it's like
watching a really good
wrestler
or a really good
chess player
or a really good
I don't know why I started
with wrestler or chess player
but that's something
that obviously I deal with
how many chess players
do you know my mate Al he's ranked wrestling or chess play but that's something that obviously I deal with. How many chess players do you know?
My mate Al,
he's ranked pretty good.
He's something like
Oh, he dances around the board,
does he?
Like a fucking Bobby Fischer.
He dances around the board.
He's doing so well
to be in that.
He watches like chess YouTube
and chess Twitch
and chess kick and stuff.
That's great.
And it's quite funny
that all of the grandmasters
don't get as many views
as two attractive
sisters who were quite course but yeah the story of the internet but it's but it's quite funny that
the grandmasters have to pretend they're cool with it but because they're not necessarily
that good at their own pr they frequently fall into the traps of getting upset about it
um but uh yeah and uh Frank Skinner was just absolutely
bossing the place
and the acts
who had a
tight five routine
didn't quite get there,
if you know what I mean.
Like, they weren't,
they were never
going to be as good
because obviously
Frank Skinner's got
40 years on each of them
but it just made it
really...
Sorry, Pete,
to cut in,
but you're much kinder
about this kind of stuff
than me
and much more diplomatic
and I understand why.
It's a difficult process. It is and you kinder About this kind of stuff than me And much more diplomatic And I understand why It's a difficult process
It is
And you also exist
In this kind of
You know this kind of
How am I going to phrase this
Without sounding rude
It's almost like
This C-list celebrity
Lifestyle you've got
Right
I mean that's an interesting
I mean that's an interesting
You just did famous
On Danny Kelly
No I know
But I'm not saying
He's famous
I'm just saying
I don't live in that
Sphere that you do Yeah but I don't Your friends are Frequently quite famous know, but I'm not saying he's famous. I'm just saying I don't live in that sphere
that you do.
Yeah, but I don't.
Your friends are frequently
quite famous, aren't they?
I'm in my shed.
I did this morning,
took the dog for a walk,
worked on some edits
and then delivered a ladder
to my next door neighbour.
You're a man of people.
That's my life now.
That's my life now, alright?
Okay, well,
let me just make the point
I wanted to make
because I don't think it's me.
It's not a point
where I use it to,
you know, use a bit of sophistry so that I hate stand-up comedy, because I don't think it's me. It's not a point where I use it to, you know,
use a bit of sophistry so that I hate stand-up comedy,
which I do, and regular listeners to this show will know that.
That's not a point I'm making.
I think with anything that has such a prevalence of exposure
is naturally going to attract some pretty substandard average stuff,
because it's a law of supply and demand.
If there was a law in this country
where only half
an hour of comedy was on telly every week,
how good would it be?
It would be amazing. Because you don't have
the best people on there. Yeah, but I think
you've got to remember that
the people commissioning comedies don't
necessarily know what the best stuff is.
They just kind of thumb the air and go, right, who seems to be making a lot of noise on socials?
It made everyone's kind of commissioning jobs very easy for a few years ago.
I'm sure it's not, but I'd get the sense that, oh, this person seems to be making a bit of a buzz.
I'd quite like to get a selfie with this person so I can show my daughter on a shoot.
So all of this stuff
kind of ties in but i would say that um i think the boom has busted i think there's not quite so
much um comedy on the television there's not that quite there's not quite so many um stand-ups on
on the um on the tours there's not quite so many people um working the tours because avalon have
got basically dave nailed down and there's if you're not on Avalon there's very few um yeah kind of journeys to um kind of doorways to to being on the television
but I don't think it's accurate to say there's not as much not many comedians on tv I think
every single vehicle has got a comedian on it but I think it's but I think it's um it's it's
starting to dive a little bit I think um there's not quite so many of those panel shows which
had a rotation of,
you know,
you do your Apollos,
you do your television shows and stuff like that.
I mean, it's...
A great example would be,
you know,
A Question of Sport or whatever.
Is that still on?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, mate.
A Question of Sport
just used to be sports people.
Can it.
Just can it.
Yeah.
Because do you think
it's got all over started all out,
didn't it?
That was that bloody show.
I just think there's, I don't know.
I think the pool should be wider when you're looking for talent
to be on TV vehicles.
And I think the point you made about commissioners and producers
and stuff is absolutely spot on.
I think it's just laziness.
But I think it's a shitty job.
I just think, you know,
there's a thousand reasons to never do anything.
And realistically, if you're in that position,
you're commissioning a show for fucking Sky One,
who are you going to pick?
Well, you're probably going to pick
Rob Beckett and fucking Ramesh Ranganathan
because they're on everything
and people like them.
So I'm not going
to get into the kind of you know the specifics i don't think that's not the point i'm making like
for example like josh willicombe that's the biggest talent blag in the history of tv right but i i
would say that that's not the point the point is that of course he's going to do it because there's
so much space these days to fill tv shows that someone basically has to do it but i think it's more um
that they um almost they work with these stand-ups a few times um and they give give them a little
bit of a platform and then they feel like there's a little bit of ownership and then they get an
exclusivity deal and then you kind of get producer credits and stuff yeah exactly so then you you end
up kind of like using your own talent like itV's a really good example they only ever use
their own kind of Rylands
and they
Ryland's excellent
Ryland's a great example
yeah but like
there's plenty of people
like Ryland
who aren't excellent
but like they
and you know
you wouldn't say
that he's the most
versatile presenter
in the world
he's not a presenter
presenter is he
he's just
you know
I like Ryland
I think he's good
I like Ryland
but it's very,
he,
like,
he had a lot of chances
to get to before he became
in any way workable.
I would say,
I would say like,
you know,
you know,
this is a tricky one
to sell to you,
I suppose,
and probably to our listeners,
but if you look at like
Michael Portillo
doing his train thing,
right?
Right.
I'm not saying I like
Michael Portillo.
I don't really have an opinion
on the guy,
right?
But it's a great casting
and it's a great gig
because he obviously
knows a fuck load
about trains
and he's really charismatic
and he's got a gravitas
on the camera
like that show
would not work
if you put a comedian
on it
right
where's the train guy
with his little camera
oh Francis Bourgeois
for example
Francis Bourgeois
it's not going to work
and I think
what I'm saying is
What other stuff
Could we do without comedians
And I'm not even
Putting my hat in the ring
I don't want to be on TV
I'm not talking about myself
Anyone
That isn't
I'll tell you another one
I'll tell you another example
To take it away from comedians
Fucking chefs
Chefs
Right
Too many of them
Too many of them
Give me the five
Best TV chefs
That's all you need
But they never do any chefing
I want to see them I want to see them Cutting an onion need. But they never do any chefing. I want to see them cutting an onion really, really small.
They never do any chefing.
While Tim Lovejoy nods along with his arms crossed.
Yeah, asking about, you know, did he watch the football?
Honestly.
Speaking of stand-ups, Luke,
did you see that video of Andrew Dice Clay?
I can't remember whether he's an issue or not.
I can't remember.
I think he very much is an issue.
That was kind of his vibe
for a long time
but there was a video
of him going around
New York
with a massive,
a massive,
massive scarf.
Like,
absolutely.
There's only two scarves
in the world
that are about as big
as Andrew Dice-Clay's scarf.
The other one was
Lenny Kravitz's,
remember?
And the other one
was Lenny Kravitz's
and Andrew Dice-Clay
just basically
filming himself
like just shouting
at people in New York City going, oh, my scarf's so big.
It's bigger than yours.
It's bigger than yours.
And I only sort of chucked it your way because I'm genuinely looking for a scarf because I don't have any scarves.
I went in the cupboard to try and, like, I've got some scarves, but one of them is a Arsenal scarf.
I don't know where that's come from.
And another one's a Liverpool scarf.
And, like, that nails your colours to the mast, doesn't it? I'm going to bring you a scarf scarf. I don't know where that's come from. And another one's a Liverpool scarf. Weird.
That nails your colours to the mast, doesn't it?
I'm going to bring you a scarf in.
I've got loads.
I'm going to bring you one in.
And I'm going to donate.
I'm going to give it to you.
And I want you to wear it.
My favourite scarf is...
Can you get me some gloves as well?
I'm cold.
I'm very cold.
Don't have to piss.
I've got dogs to walk.
Come on.
I've got a scarf which is like a piano.
Yes.
Which I love. The only criticism I'd have of that scarf is that I've got a scarf which is like a piano. Yes. Which I love.
The only criticism I'd have of that scarf that I've got
is that it's slightly too short.
Not musical enough.
I'd like it to be longer.
In fact, if anyone listening to this show can knit me a piano scarf.
You want a baby grand?
A grand.
You want a grand?
I would love it.
I would absolutely love it.
I'm a fan of the scarf.
I'm wearing,'m wearing speaking of
using my career
for good
I'm wearing a cardigan
right now
that was stitched
not stitched
knitted
not sewn
knitted
by a listener
to Absolute Radio
back in the day
and I still wear it
what's the name
I think the second
name was Crowver
you know ungrateful you don't know ungrateful I think their second name was Crowver.
You know.
Ungrateful.
You don't know.
Ungrateful.
It's just a massively made up name.
No, I can't.
Oh, it was a couple.
They were lovely.
They were absolutely lovely.
Well, their surname was Crowver.
That's not an answer.
That's not an answer.
Brilliant.
Peter, I've got back, and people won't know this because of the modern,
one, there's a modern technology. Modern world. I've recently got back from the US.'t know this because of the wonders of modern technology.
I've recently got back from the US.
Oh, yes.
Welcome home.
Thank you very much.
My six-month-old son was an absolute superstar.
Yay.
Was by far the best behaved of all the family members, which I was not expecting.
And so that was great.
And I felt a real sense of achievement being able to do that trip for a couple of weeks with a six-month-old.
It's not a trip
without its logistical challenges,
shall we say.
Yeah.
I saw your father-in-law
3D printing some guitar picks,
which I very much enjoyed.
He's the gift that keeps on giving.
Yeah.
He's just great.
He's the 3D printer
that keeps on printing.
I saw,
and I should say actually,
while we're on the subject,
I don't want to go into too much detail because I think it's fair
that people haven't chosen to be broadcasters themselves.
There shouldn't be subjects too much of this kind of thing.
But I would like to thank them for their accommodation
and their generosity in helping us overcome the challenges
of travelling that far with a six-month-old.
They're amazing.
It's very snowy there. I imagine it's very snowy there.
It wasn't actually.
There was snow on the ground in some parts
but we didn't actually witness too much snow ourselves
which is a shame because I think we quite
wanted to throw our baby into
a pile of snow and do a snow angel.
Anyway, so I get to the
house and LC has done
he's basically got a Van Halen
branded guitar pick in the house
and I was like, LC
this is fucking brilliant. Where'd you get that from? He's like, printed it myself. Come with me. Down in the house. And I was like, LC, this is fucking brilliant.
Where'd you get that from?
He's like, I printed it myself.
Come with me.
Down to the basement.
Printing hall.
Printing me four guitar picks,
two Van Halens
and two Darth Vaders.
Cheers, next.
That's the future.
He's just constantly
just getting reels and reels
of 3D printing fibers.
Yeah, he is.
We now live in a world,
right,
and imagine,
I know this is going to sound like much,
but you're the same age as me pretty much.
Back in the 90s when we were kids and we were playing our guitars for the first time, we were losing our guitar picks and it was difficult to find new ones and they were only 50p, you had to go to the shop, right?
We are now living in a world where if you lose your guitar pick, you can print yourself another one.
And in the 90s, if I said that to you, you'd have been like, what are you talking about?
I think the word print would, yeah, I mean, it's like making it out of nothing, isn't it, I suppose?
You have this plastic moulding machine, a plastic printing machine in your house.
And I guess, like, and what I would say with 3D printing,
I think that stuff must be perfect for guitar picks.
It is actually...
Like light gauge, very light gauge, but like good stuff.
That's what I like.
Yeah, that's what I like too.
I'm not a great guitar player by any means, but I don't't like a heavy gauge pick i don't see how you can play with it
block from queen playing with a 50p um coin no we used to you know what i used to do back in the
day i used to absolutely love it when my dad got a new credit card yes because i used to cut up the
old one and use that um strum better it just feels more like a 12 string when you've got a lighter gauge
I'm a very light gauge
pick guy
and you're right
it's perfect
I haven't actually
used it yet
but I can tell
by the feel
it's going to be good
I'll use it
when I go to
meet the band of dads
next in a couple
of weeks time
and do it then
but what I was
actually going to say
was
when you sidetracked me
I came back
to the news
when I literally
turned my phone on
and saw that Shane McGowan had died.
Yeah.
And I don't think anyone
could say it's unexpected.
What was your reaction to it?
He's a Keith Richards type character.
Say again?
He's a Keith Richards type character.
He's indestructible.
Yeah, absolutely indestructible.
I was kind of like,
yeah, I mean,
65 seems like late in the day to
be honest i mean good god but uh he uh i very much enjoyed my favorite testimonial about and he seemed
to be you know for a hellraiser he's quite a sort of sweet sweet um as a sweet essence to him let's
say um with every story that comes but um i would say that um i very much enjoyed craig charles's
testimonial on six music last night as i was driving through uh the snow uh and he's going uh
well i i used i had a couple of nights out with uh with uh with with him uh in the boogaloo in
in in uh he caroned that bar did he yeah he caroned the boogaloo but yeah i think it's fair to say that he uh that he he didn't
have much to say for himself um it just sounded like he drank in a bar that was owned by shun
mcgowan and that's the limits of his story i mean good stuff he's he's known as i think he's known
as someone who you know did a lot of his articulation
through his songwriting and his various addictions, I think it's unfair to say.
But I mean, I would recommend, there's a documentary about him.
It's not actually that good a documentary, but it's one of those documentaries where
his story itself is so just fascinating
that you can't really fuck it up.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Is that the one where his guitarist
puts his head through a mirror?
No, that is from an interview in Holland, I think,
with a music journalist that's filmed.
It may feature, I can't remember,
but the documentary in question is called
Croc of Gold, A Few Rounds with Shane McGowan. But, I mean, Shane McGowan started, filmed uh it may feature i can't remember but the documentary in question is called crock of gold a few rounds with shay mcgowan and and but but i mean shay mcgowan's like shay mcgowan started
drinking guinness at the age of five years old but i'm not just talking about the fact that like
oh his dad would give him a little tot of guinness to help him sleep i'm talking about that he'd take
him to the pub and he'd be like the party trick like he would drink a pint like at five years old so he
obviously had a very very interesting show as they start to life and then we shouldn't trivialize nor
glamorize kind of people's struggle with addictions it's not our place to do so and he certainly had
those issues around not just alcohol but heroin and other things as well so it sounds like he
didn't have the greatest um you know uh foundation let's say no i don't think so but but what i would like to say is that um actually if you look uh and we could talk about his influence
on music and and you know all the rest of it and the way he's influenced you know pop music not
just in this country but in the us as well massively there's some artists that you'll know
really well because that's kind of they would always talk about the pogues and the garen all
the rest of it um these celtic punk and pop punk kind of bands. But
it's not about that for me.
If you go back and listen to Rum, Sodomy
and The Lash, right, that is
a fucking 10 out of 10
brilliant album. There's not a dull
moment on it. It's a perfect blend
of new arranged traditional stuff
and brilliant songwriting by McGowan.
And he is this type of songwriter.
To me, it's no coincidence that he was good friends with Nick Cave
because the way they write songs, both those people,
I mean, I think Nick Cave's a better songwriter than him,
but that's not the point.
The style of songwriting is very, very honest.
It's that kind of Ernest Hemingway,
sit at the typewriter and bleed type stuff.
It's essentially poetry to music from one man's soul.
What was that cover that they did together?
Him and Cave? Oh, I'm not sure off the top
of my head. I think it was
What a Wonderful World
which was surprisingly
accomplished. Didn't they put
a spell on you? Oh, maybe they did.
As well. That's good.
I can't find it on here.
But they were there's a great interview
the NME ran
with Cave, McGowan
and Mark E. Smith
of The Fall.
Good God.
Just absolutely
just rotten.
Just the smell.
Rotten stuff.
Yeah.
Nick Cave smelling like
lavender or something.
Yeah, back when Nick Cave
was still kind of partaking.
It's funny because
Nick Cave's red hand files
which he does and he emails out once a week is like half the answers are like
sometimes he gets questions where like nick when you were a young man uh you said this and now
you're saying this is it true that you've become a conservative or whatever and and and i think you
got a lot of stick for example for going to the king's coronation and stuff yeah right and and
nick's nick caves like answers are generally like dear so-and-so when i was a young man as you may have
read i was absolutely demented now i wouldn't take anything seriously that i said before the
age about 30 because i took heroin 60 times a day you know he's that kind of answer right
but um but and then he goes on i mean he I mean, you can't cancel someone who just goes,
I was on a lot of drugs.
Don't worry about it.
I was on absolute rotten shit for 25 years of my life.
But he would go into this kind of chat about how,
you know, put yourself in my position.
If you're invited to something like that,
isn't it an amazing thing to go and see?
You don't have to endorse it.
You don't have to kind of,
you know, it's not like I'm giving them money.
I've been invited as an ambassador
or whatever for your culture.
It's a great experience.
So of course I'm going to go.
But anyway, I was just going to say
that I think he got a lot of stick for that
because he was a counter-cultural figure
who's now kind of been adopted by the mainstream
and is kind of an anecdotalist type public figure
now as much as he is a songwriter.
Now, of course, Shane McGowan's never been that.
Now, partly that's to do
with health issues and stuff, but also
it's because of a massive
pride
in how Irish he is,
despite being born in England. I think he was
born in Kent. But he
has a huge iconoclastic countercultural side to him
that really won out,
and he was uncompromising on everything he did.
And if you transpose that back to conversations
we've just had about the state of modern entertainment,
now, you can have your own opinions on that,
but we can all surely agree that it's quite, it's quite sanitized,
quite safe.
And,
and it's not really much edginess on telly now.
I mean,
you wouldn't get a Chris Morris on TV much now,
for example.
And McGowan is,
it was a relic of that era where it was like,
actually,
do you know what?
It's like the Bill Hicks thing.
You know,
Bill Hicks would say,
Oh,
people complain that John Bonham,
you know,
would,
would fucking,
you know,
puke up in a doorway
and Robert Plant would do this.
They're supposed to fucking do that.
That's their job.
Why do you want a rock and roll star to be safe
and a good example to your children?
That's not...
Rock and roll is the absolute opposite of what rock and roll is.
I think Shane McGowan kind of embodied that.
He's almost doing that stuff so you don't have to,
if you know what I mean.
Yeah. We'll probably have to hit a quick had break and then do a couple of embodied that. He's almost doing that stuff so you don't have to, if you know what I mean. Yeah.
We'll probably have to hit a quick had break
and then do a couple of emails maybe.
A had break?
A had break because we had some advertising
before you started talking about heroin.
Thank you very much.
Sorry.
That's the thing that gets me.
That's the thing that gets me about YouTube.
You can't get on telly if you're edgy,
and you can't really get on YouTube
or any of the major streaming mechanisms
and make any money
because the algorithm just absolutely buries your stuff
if you talk about anything spicy
or anything particularly interesting.
I didn't know that. I should have.
So it's kind of like you can't talk about edgy topics.
You can be like a fascist,
or you can be like a men's rights activist,
or you can be a xenopho rights activist, or you could be a
xenophobe, but you can't actually
talk about proper stuff
and make any money out of it. So there's
nowhere for edgy people to go anymore.
The algorithms
have made the entire internet
not very rock and roll at all.
Right, we'll be back in a second
with some post-Hadbrick
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Hey, I just did a spit on the old pop shield.
That's what it's there for.
The pop shield's there for a reason, baby.
It protects my... I bought a microphone a little while ago.
I don't really know what it is,
but I just said,
what's the best microphone for a studio?
And it's got a man's name like sort of
signatured on it so it's been signed by a famous american uh mark notfler no has haslen hogan i
think they're called haslen hogan um i think they're like a famous voiceover artist so i've
i basically bought it for the signature harlan hogan harlan hogan right
what did harlan hogan do with that i'm just looking at his wikipedia right was he just a
really popular voiceover artist who's got his signature on some microphones apparently he's
got many famous advertising catchphrases oh nice okay bring it on um what is it buy this product
the thing is though presumably he's just reading these that have been
written by someone else
yeah I guess
well I don't know
maybe if he was
operating back in
like the 70s
he might be like
where's the beef guy
you know what I mean
you had a bit more
rope back then
okay I'll give you
some examples
this is just from
his Wikipedia page
if he's been cancelled
I don't know
that's why I bought
the microphone
I don't accept
responsibility for it
I'll read it for you to him I'll try and do it I've I bought the microphone. I don't accept responsibility for it.
I'll read a few to him.
I'll try and do it in his... I've never heard him speak,
but I'll try and do it in his style as well, if you like.
Ready?
Yeah.
Strong enough for a man.
I mean, I presume he's American, right?
Yes, I think so, yeah.
You'll never get a second chance to make a first impression.
Okay.
Oh, I think I've heard that one before.
Second chance, first impression. I've got two more to go. Okay. Oh, I think I've heard that one before. Second chance, first impression.
I've got two more to go.
Okay.
When you care enough to send the very best.
That's nice.
I like that one.
And the final one is confusing.
Quaker life.
It's the cereal even Mikey likes.
Yes.
Apparently little Mikey is in the Quaker Oats commercial in the 70s.
Right, and he just did not care for most oats.
I think he looks like quite a precocious young chap.
Well, a little one, I suppose.
There you go.
Anyway, I mean, so he is...
All right.
I mean, he's got a surprisingly short Wikipedia article
for a man who's got his own signature microphone.
Yeah.
Why don't we get sponsored by a microphone brand?
That's all we use.
I know.
That's all we do all day long
yeah
guitarists get their own
signature guitars right
and then
yeah we could have
stack mics
we could have
we could have the Jim Campbell special
where it's just really
it cannot get close to your mouth
yeah
what would mine be Pete
just
the volume only went above one
volume
yeah volume very low
volume very low
and like
a beard protector yeah to protect the beard.
I've got my own pop shield.
Nature's pop shield.
Nature's pop shield.
Let's do a couple of emails then,
because we've got a follow-up from Martin about the fridge in a fence.
Fridge in a fence, fridge in a fence.
Is this the person who was talking about it being like some kind of
heat transfer for an incubator or something.
I don't know.
Well, I mean, the plot just thickens, really.
We posted the photo on social media.
It got a lot of traction.
Yeah.
Oh, by the way, actually, on that note,
I should say a personal thank you to everyone
who sent me the evidence on their Spotify wrapped
that they listened to the Luke and Pete show.
Frankly, an unhealthy amount.
Tis the season.
There's people in pretty good jobs that I know who sent me that.
And I just sort of go, that's a bad thing.
That is just a bad thing.
One of them was a global, I saw, because I looked at their LinkedIn,
was a global head of something.
It's like, okay.
Yeah, but these people started listening to our wank 10 years ago
when they were in terms.
When they were work experience.
Yeah, yeah.
I like the idea of a real job.
I mean, I would like to turn that into money.
I would like to turn those relationships into pure money,
but we're unmolested thus far.
Make a contribution, please.
I love the idea of someone who's just preparing for a really high-powered
meeting. Probably in my mind, someone like New York
in a corner office on the 30th floor
and they're listening to you
fucking stumble over who
Boney M were before they go in.
Well, look, I think
you're
the confident side. I'm the non-confident
side about my own memories and I think
if you're going into a meeting,
look, it's never going to be as bad as Pete
trying to remember Born EM.
It just never is.
Right.
Martin, who sent the original Fridge Friends email in,
he's actually getting on his way
to being a Luke and Pete show royalty.
Because this email was very, very interesting
to a lot of our listeners.
He says,
Hello, Luke and Pete.
Here is the French Friends update
nobody asked for, wants or needs.
I want it. I want it.
I need it.
I think I may have asked for it, so that's not your fault, Martin.
He says, because of your shock and confusion regarding the French fridge,
I thought I would check out the location on Google Earth.
Unfortunately, though, the fridge is obscured by the occupier unloading some shopping,
perhaps directly into the aforementioned fridge,
and the property also eerily shares a boundary
with the local crematorium.
Oh.
I've included the pictures and coordinates below.
Wow, that is interesting.
So, we need to know more.
I mean, I'll tell you what,
Wondery would do about 15 episodes on this.
We do it in a five-minute email.
Yeah, why?
He's let himself down a little bit though, Martin,
by saying,
P.Ss i listen to
the luke and peach at 1.2 speed as i have so many pods to get through every week disappointing to
hear that but what can you do yeah i mean i mean listening to me on 1.2 speed is demented yeah it's
it's a difficult list i've never understood why why people how people can do that uh but it's an
interesting scene i mean it looks like someone they someone, they're getting something out of a car.
I'll wait till next year.
Maybe the Google cameras have passed by.
Or maybe next time I'm driving through Hull,
I'll have a look.
Fascinating.
I think given that he shared the coordinates with us,
we have the ability to take it into our own hands. Yeah.
I think if Martin is too frightened to go round there himself,
that's disappointing.
But he's got access to it.
So he should just knock on the door and say,
hi, I want to see you've got a fridge in your fence.
I'm interested what that's for.
Yeah, where is...
The same way the other guy who emailed him
wouldn't go round to the jet ski man's house
because he was too frightened.
That's a good point.
But I think he had reasons for that.
I mean, Hull's not a million miles away from...
That is a bit of a deviation.
I think I'm going to have to drive up to Hartlepool
at some point before Christmas to mend some bridges.
Maybe I can...
Oh, man.
You're not spending Christmas at the family's, mate.
No, no, no, that's not happening.
Because we're spending it down here
and they're not coming down because they don't want to.
And I have maybe said some things about that that I possibly regret.
The John Lewis.
John Lewis.
What do you mean John Lewis?
It's a John Lewis advert, isn't it?
It is, yeah.
The John Lewis advert from hell.
Oh, and what happens at the end?
Do they all have Christmas dinner?
No, no, no.
My dad drinks.
One of them gets pissed and sends a couple of texts.
My dad drinks alone on Christmas Day in a flat roof pub.
It's good stuff. It's good stuff.
It's good stuff.
In some way,
for some reason,
I still find that
less depressing
than what you're doing.
Yeah,
it's a very good point,
actually, yeah.
So you're going to go up there
before Christmas
to spread some good cheer?
Spread some good cheer,
hand over some presents.
But I never announce...
Chuck about the windows
you drive past?
Never announce myself
because that stresses them out.
So, yeah, there you go.
What are you going to do?
So you can't tell them when you're going because they will get stressed about preparing.
They'll just get stressed about preparing, yeah, exactly.
But not that they put on a spreader.
I mean, they just get stressed out about me driving for five hours.
But, hey.
You are quite an anxiety-inducing bloke, though.
Yeah.
People don't want me near them.
I've learned to live in the chaos,
but I think for a long time
I was kind of frightened
as what you were going to do
on the show and stuff,
particularly live shows.
Right, okay.
That's all right, isn't it?
Well, no, I think it's just your problem.
It's my problem.
The way the world is these days,
I can just excuse myself.
I'm sure there's some contractual,
plausible deniability
and distancing that has been hard-coded
in the contracts of stacking in general.
I've got a statement on my computer
which I can just release, which starts
with... You'd like to distance ourselves from Pete Donaldson.
Yeah, we are very disappointed in the recent actions
of Mr Pete Donaldson.
I mean, wait until the dust sets
before you put it out, because it may have been
completely innocent why I was
waving a shotgun around an orphanage.
They may have owed me money.
That's unlikely.
That's unlikely.
Let's finish with this email from George.
Hello to you, George.
George.
Thank you for getting in touch.
He says, hi, guys.
I've recently become a new dad.
Oh, congratulations.
Congratulations to you, George.
And I wanted to thank Luke for his tip
about buying a perfect prep machine for the bottle feeds.
It really is like a coffee machine for babies.
And it's been an absolute godsend for the night feeds
and I'm trying to let my wife have some much deserved sleep
I'm waiting with bated breath
when did babies stop using bottles?
yeah is it one?
yeah it kind of depends
it depends how good they are
you get weaning milk don't you?
I always see the weaning milk in Tesco's
you don't need to buy that
he says I'm waiting for bated breath
for the release of Luke's new parenting podcast
all joking aside
becoming a dad has been a mad
experience and I've found hearing a familiar voice
discussed going through similar experiences to me
really supportive. There were some complications
with the birth and listening to the
podcast really helped keep my head on straight, which
meant I was able to support my wife through a difficult time.
I'm grateful to you both for that
and the little one is doing great now. Thanks
for all the laughs and mad stories. I hope this makes its way to you
both, even if it's not read out on the show.
Well, George, it is read out on the show
because it's something that makes me sound good.
So that's always going to make the cut.
I will tell you a little story about this email.
Rory forwarded it to me saying,
I'm sure you'd like to read this.
Obviously, we're not going to read it out.
And I was like, we fucking are reading it out.
Yeah, 100%.
And I would also like to add and finish by saying
yet another product that we, or at least one of us,
uses, endorses, and bigs up on this show,
the Tommy Tippy Perfect Prep Machine.
Again, not chucking any advertising revenue our way.
No, Perfect Prep Machine.
Now, what is that?
That sounds expensive.
It's not really.
No.
It's a great bit of kit for new parents.
That's all I'll say.
And I'm only speaking the truth.
It just keeps it warm. It just keeps really. No. It's a great bit of kit for new parents. That's all I'll say. And I'm only speaking the truth. It just keeps it warm.
It just keeps the bottles warm.
No.
It delivers the milk to the perfect temperature
in the right amount every time,
whatever time of day or night it is.
Oh, it's like a milk.
You pour the milk in.
It's like a coffee machine for babies.
I understand now.
Yeah.
Well done, everyone.
Yeah, it's everything.
You fill it up.
You fill up the vessel
and then it just kind of dispenses.
It's a milk dispenser for babas.
Yes, it is.
And we're not doing a parenting podcast because I find them distasteful.
We'll be talking on the show next week, on Thursday rather,
about how to prevent colic, which is just burping or something.
The trick is you can't.
No one knows.
All right, no idea.
All right, then.
We'll be back on Thursday with battery brands
and tips about perfectly prepping your baby's bottle.
I want to know more about this fridge fence.
I'm just desperate to hear more about it.
People of Hull, get going.
Have a little Christmas, you know,
post-Christmas party walk over to see it.
Imagine really pissed people just descend on that poor person's house.
Don't do that.
Just try and open it
and if you can't
inquire as to why.
Okie dokie.
Anyone on Exeter
should get down to that jet ski house
and find out a bit more
about that as well.
There's mysteries all over the country.
We want them solved.
Yes please.
Alright then.
We'll be back soon
with more Lugabee Short.
Look after yourselves.
You've only got a couple of days
to wait.
Ta-ta.
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