The Luke and Pete Show - Daddy Cool

Episode Date: December 4, 2023

A listener, Martyn, caused quite a stir in the Luke and Pete Show community a few weeks ago by sending a photo of what appeared to be a fridge built into a fence.Today, Martyn is back with a much-need...ed update on the situation. Elsewhere, Luke tells Pete all about his trip to America and the latest 3D printing antics from stateside. He also offers Pete a brand new scarf. But not from the 3D printer.Want to get in touch with the show? Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow.We're also now on Tiktok! Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow. Subscribe to our YouTube HERE.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:42 Oh, it's the Luke and Pete Shaw on Monday the 4th of December. I'm Pete Donaldson. I'm joined by Disco Lukey Moor. How are you doing, Lukey Moor? It's probably my least favourite genre of music, Disco. I think that it's one of those genres that people tell you you should respect, but I just can't get on board. I appreciate, you know what respect, but I just can't get on board. I just cannot get on board. I appreciate, you know what, Pete?
Starting point is 00:01:08 I very much appreciate the emancipation of, you know, homosexuality music and all this kind of stuff. It's a great thing. It's an amazing scene for lots of different reasons. Yeah. I just don't think the music's very good. No. What is the band that has the brother and the two sisters?
Starting point is 00:01:27 Why are we doing this already? Cryptic crossword. It's the disco. They sang a song about Rasputin. Rah, rah, Rasputin. Oh, Boney M. Boney M. Now.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I didn't know they were brothers and sisters, were they? Yeah, I think so. I think he was the... Oh, maybe I've just confused... I think I've just confused that meme where it says, if you're going to go dancing, you've got to bring your brother. And the man is doing mad dancing and they're just kind of... Guys, if you're listening to this show, I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:01:58 If you're listening for the first time, I apologise. I wish I could tell you it gets more coherent than this. No. But it does not. And that's part of the charm. That's, we're not even, what are we? What are we? What are we?
Starting point is 00:02:11 Not even two minutes in. Nice hit. And I'm seriously considering restarting the show. No, no, you never do that. You have a policy of never doing that.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Double doon. Yeah. Boreum, I like the bit where he just gets to do what he wants and shit they were german i think weren't they and and and the two girls uh they they basically it reminds me of my relationship with my partner when i met her um she was at absolute radio and we were both hosting the isle of wight festival and i sat down i'd only been in were you courting were you courting no no years ago years
Starting point is 00:02:45 ago years ago and um and we were both doing the isle of wight festival and i looked over and she was very professional and i was like i'm gonna get found out i've only been doing absolute radio for a week that's been the story of your whole career right yeah yeah massively you look over and you go i'm gonna get found out she's uh out. She seems to know what she's doing. And I'm very much the boy from Born EM just going, oh, I'm the boy from, oh, it's Absolute Radio. That's basically what's happening. You're like Mohammed Al-Fayed on the Ali G show.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Yeah, just pointing, saying my name, don't really know what's going on so that's how I felt when I was full of it and I had somehow engineered my way onto national radio after doing the show
Starting point is 00:03:32 and university and all the rest of it and then got sat next to Danny Kelly it was like broadcasting in a fucking wind tunnel honestly I was like
Starting point is 00:03:40 first of all how have we got an hour in I've said nothing and this is me we're talking about I basically feel the space boss of any other shit have you not clued yourself in
Starting point is 00:03:46 have you not hacked your way in like a like a madman I know it was it was an education to say the least but what a legend
Starting point is 00:03:54 I actually think Danny Kelly's a national treasure he deserves a lot more credit than he gets and do you know what I said this to him over a pint once those of you who are listening
Starting point is 00:04:01 from a different country don't know who Danny Kelly is he's a brilliant broadcaster you can google him and you'll be able to find everything you need to know. But anyway, I said to him once, in my view, Danny Kelly, you're better than Danny Baker, right? Danny Baker's
Starting point is 00:04:14 massive, you're not. You've got the same agent. He's been a commercial radio stalwart for all that time and that's cost him. Yeah, but I'll tell you what else has cost him according to him, right? Killed a producer. Yeah, but I'll tell you what else has cost him, according to him, right? And I have to get on with it. He killed a producer. No, no. It's much more interesting than that, believe it or not.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Wow. So you know the famous photo of Danny Baker, Chris Evans, and Paul Gascoyne boozing? One of the most 90s photos ever. Yeah. It catapulted Danny Baker. Chris Evans was doing his thing, I think, anyway, and he's obviously just a superstar anyway. Jimmy Fight Babies? It catapulted Danny Baker, right Evans was doing this thing, I think, anyway, and he's obviously just a superstar anyway.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Jimmy Fight Babies? Catapulted Danny Baker, right? Guess who's sat next to them, but is cut out of the photo for editorial reasons in the sun? Danny Kelly. Danny Kelly. He's cut out of the photo. I want to see the original then.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I want to see how youthful he looks. He jokingly said to me once, I reckon that one decision from the image editor to snip me out of that photo has probably cost me over a million quid. Yeah, it's probably right. I imagine, I would say that, you know, like in Police Squad on Naked Gun Films where they've got one, they're in the precinct and there's one policeman that's way taller than everyone else. Yeah. And he's got a bit of banana on the side of your mouth and he did half a banana drops into interview danny kelly's just too tall for that shot like everyone's in that shot is around about five nine five ten and danny kelly's
Starting point is 00:05:36 like my heart danny kelly's quite tall so i think that i think it was just a thing rather than it was a whip but but the two best lines from police squad can can I tell you them? One is when Leslie Nielsen's character, I can't remember the name of him now, walks up to a door, a front door of a house, knocks on it and a woman answers. And she obviously gets upset and terrified because she sees a police officer at a door. She knows it's going to be bad news. And he says, ma'am, I would have come earlier, but your husband wasn't dead then. That's a great line. And the second...
Starting point is 00:06:06 Locksmith? The locksmith line is the greatest line in the history of comedy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where he walks into the mayor's office and the mayor says to him, who are you and how did you get in here? And he says,
Starting point is 00:06:14 I'm a locksmith and well, I'm a locksmith. That's just so good. If you wrote that, you'd just take off the rest of the year. Do you know what? That's proper jokes. That's proper...
Starting point is 00:06:24 That's proper... That can be told anywhere in proper jokes. That's proper... That's proper... That can be told anywhere in the world. That's chops. That is chops. That is chops. They'll always be locks. In comedy and music,
Starting point is 00:06:33 there's a phenomenon which I've identified. I don't know if anyone identified it before me, probably. But I feel very passionately about it. There's a lot of comedians
Starting point is 00:06:40 out there who can't do jokes, who are scared of jokes. Right. And there's a lot of musicians out there who are scared of melodies, right? And I would say, if you can drill an art form comedians out there who can't do jokes, skedder jokes, and there's a lot of musicians out there who skedder melodies. I would say, if you can drill an art form down to its essence, and
Starting point is 00:06:51 face that essence, which is quite intimidating, without fear or favour, head on and deliver, as far as I'm concerned, you're a legend in that fucking sphere. I would have a lot more respect, I do have a lot more respect, I do have a lot more respect, for Carly Rae Jepsen and her songwriting partner
Starting point is 00:07:09 who came up with Call Me Maybe than I do for any kind of wank-off radio head side project. I'm not saying it's not good, I'm not saying it's not great art and all the rest of it, and they would say they're expanding and exploring that genre
Starting point is 00:07:23 and their type of music to this natural extreme which is of course artistic but i think i don't know why i chose redhead really but there's artists out there who just obfuscate who obfuscate around yeah when they because they haven't got the ability to do it and i think it's the same with comedians a lot of comedians not just not i don't mean just new comedians i mean comedians generally you know there's a lot to be said for a Bob Monk house the guy used to write like 50 jokes a fucking day I'll say
Starting point is 00:07:49 we were at a gig last weekend was it James Acaster? no it was on Sunday we went to the Absolute Radio Live and Frank Skinner did you go with Nelson the Dog did you?
Starting point is 00:07:59 you're not working there anymore well no but Sarah always gets the tickets and so I go and it's like so there was like loads of different acts on
Starting point is 00:08:10 and I'm not going to name any of them because one of them in particular has worked with us and it was interesting that Frank Skinner oh I think I know
Starting point is 00:08:17 who that is Frank Skinner who's been on the email me and I'll tell you has been doing it for such a long time yeah
Starting point is 00:08:23 him just working a room yeah I bet it's amazing and also just having an encyclopedia Bob Monkhouse-esque database of material for whatever situation he's in
Starting point is 00:08:34 it's like watching a really good wrestler or a really good chess player or a really good I don't know why I started with wrestler or chess player
Starting point is 00:08:42 but that's something that obviously I deal with how many chess players do you know my mate Al he's ranked wrestling or chess play but that's something that obviously I deal with. How many chess players do you know? My mate Al, he's ranked pretty good. He's something like Oh, he dances around the board,
Starting point is 00:08:51 does he? Like a fucking Bobby Fischer. He dances around the board. He's doing so well to be in that. He watches like chess YouTube and chess Twitch and chess kick and stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:59 That's great. And it's quite funny that all of the grandmasters don't get as many views as two attractive sisters who were quite course but yeah the story of the internet but it's but it's quite funny that the grandmasters have to pretend they're cool with it but because they're not necessarily that good at their own pr they frequently fall into the traps of getting upset about it
Starting point is 00:09:20 um but uh yeah and uh Frank Skinner was just absolutely bossing the place and the acts who had a tight five routine didn't quite get there, if you know what I mean. Like, they weren't,
Starting point is 00:09:34 they were never going to be as good because obviously Frank Skinner's got 40 years on each of them but it just made it really... Sorry, Pete,
Starting point is 00:09:40 to cut in, but you're much kinder about this kind of stuff than me and much more diplomatic and I understand why. It's a difficult process. It is and you kinder About this kind of stuff than me And much more diplomatic And I understand why It's a difficult process It is
Starting point is 00:09:46 And you also exist In this kind of You know this kind of How am I going to phrase this Without sounding rude It's almost like This C-list celebrity Lifestyle you've got
Starting point is 00:09:56 Right I mean that's an interesting I mean that's an interesting You just did famous On Danny Kelly No I know But I'm not saying He's famous
Starting point is 00:10:03 I'm just saying I don't live in that Sphere that you do Yeah but I don't Your friends are Frequently quite famous know, but I'm not saying he's famous. I'm just saying I don't live in that sphere that you do. Yeah, but I don't. Your friends are frequently quite famous, aren't they? I'm in my shed.
Starting point is 00:10:09 I did this morning, took the dog for a walk, worked on some edits and then delivered a ladder to my next door neighbour. You're a man of people. That's my life now. That's my life now, alright?
Starting point is 00:10:20 Okay, well, let me just make the point I wanted to make because I don't think it's me. It's not a point where I use it to, you know, use a bit of sophistry so that I hate stand-up comedy, because I don't think it's me. It's not a point where I use it to, you know, use a bit of sophistry so that I hate stand-up comedy,
Starting point is 00:10:27 which I do, and regular listeners to this show will know that. That's not a point I'm making. I think with anything that has such a prevalence of exposure is naturally going to attract some pretty substandard average stuff, because it's a law of supply and demand. If there was a law in this country where only half an hour of comedy was on telly every week,
Starting point is 00:10:52 how good would it be? It would be amazing. Because you don't have the best people on there. Yeah, but I think you've got to remember that the people commissioning comedies don't necessarily know what the best stuff is. They just kind of thumb the air and go, right, who seems to be making a lot of noise on socials? It made everyone's kind of commissioning jobs very easy for a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I'm sure it's not, but I'd get the sense that, oh, this person seems to be making a bit of a buzz. I'd quite like to get a selfie with this person so I can show my daughter on a shoot. So all of this stuff kind of ties in but i would say that um i think the boom has busted i think there's not quite so much um comedy on the television there's not that quite there's not quite so many um stand-ups on on the um on the tours there's not quite so many people um working the tours because avalon have got basically dave nailed down and there's if you're not on Avalon there's very few um yeah kind of journeys to um kind of doorways to to being on the television but I don't think it's accurate to say there's not as much not many comedians on tv I think
Starting point is 00:11:54 every single vehicle has got a comedian on it but I think it's but I think it's um it's it's starting to dive a little bit I think um there's not quite so many of those panel shows which had a rotation of, you know, you do your Apollos, you do your television shows and stuff like that. I mean, it's... A great example would be,
Starting point is 00:12:10 you know, A Question of Sport or whatever. Is that still on? Yeah. Oh, yeah, mate. A Question of Sport just used to be sports people. Can it.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Just can it. Yeah. Because do you think it's got all over started all out, didn't it? That was that bloody show. I just think there's, I don't know. I think the pool should be wider when you're looking for talent
Starting point is 00:12:33 to be on TV vehicles. And I think the point you made about commissioners and producers and stuff is absolutely spot on. I think it's just laziness. But I think it's a shitty job. I just think, you know, there's a thousand reasons to never do anything. And realistically, if you're in that position,
Starting point is 00:12:52 you're commissioning a show for fucking Sky One, who are you going to pick? Well, you're probably going to pick Rob Beckett and fucking Ramesh Ranganathan because they're on everything and people like them. So I'm not going to get into the kind of you know the specifics i don't think that's not the point i'm making like
Starting point is 00:13:10 for example like josh willicombe that's the biggest talent blag in the history of tv right but i i would say that that's not the point the point is that of course he's going to do it because there's so much space these days to fill tv shows that someone basically has to do it but i think it's more um that they um almost they work with these stand-ups a few times um and they give give them a little bit of a platform and then they feel like there's a little bit of ownership and then they get an exclusivity deal and then you kind of get producer credits and stuff yeah exactly so then you you end up kind of like using your own talent like itV's a really good example they only ever use their own kind of Rylands
Starting point is 00:13:46 and they Ryland's excellent Ryland's a great example yeah but like there's plenty of people like Ryland who aren't excellent but like they
Starting point is 00:13:54 and you know you wouldn't say that he's the most versatile presenter in the world he's not a presenter presenter is he he's just
Starting point is 00:14:00 you know I like Ryland I think he's good I like Ryland but it's very, he, like, he had a lot of chances
Starting point is 00:14:07 to get to before he became in any way workable. I would say, I would say like, you know, you know, this is a tricky one to sell to you,
Starting point is 00:14:16 I suppose, and probably to our listeners, but if you look at like Michael Portillo doing his train thing, right? Right. I'm not saying I like
Starting point is 00:14:21 Michael Portillo. I don't really have an opinion on the guy, right? But it's a great casting and it's a great gig because he obviously knows a fuck load
Starting point is 00:14:29 about trains and he's really charismatic and he's got a gravitas on the camera like that show would not work if you put a comedian on it
Starting point is 00:14:37 right where's the train guy with his little camera oh Francis Bourgeois for example Francis Bourgeois it's not going to work and I think
Starting point is 00:14:44 what I'm saying is What other stuff Could we do without comedians And I'm not even Putting my hat in the ring I don't want to be on TV I'm not talking about myself Anyone
Starting point is 00:14:51 That isn't I'll tell you another one I'll tell you another example To take it away from comedians Fucking chefs Chefs Right Too many of them
Starting point is 00:14:59 Too many of them Give me the five Best TV chefs That's all you need But they never do any chefing I want to see them I want to see them Cutting an onion need. But they never do any chefing. I want to see them cutting an onion really, really small. They never do any chefing. While Tim Lovejoy nods along with his arms crossed.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Yeah, asking about, you know, did he watch the football? Honestly. Speaking of stand-ups, Luke, did you see that video of Andrew Dice Clay? I can't remember whether he's an issue or not. I can't remember. I think he very much is an issue. That was kind of his vibe
Starting point is 00:15:25 for a long time but there was a video of him going around New York with a massive, a massive, massive scarf. Like,
Starting point is 00:15:34 absolutely. There's only two scarves in the world that are about as big as Andrew Dice-Clay's scarf. The other one was Lenny Kravitz's, remember?
Starting point is 00:15:39 And the other one was Lenny Kravitz's and Andrew Dice-Clay just basically filming himself like just shouting at people in New York City going, oh, my scarf's so big. It's bigger than yours.
Starting point is 00:15:48 It's bigger than yours. And I only sort of chucked it your way because I'm genuinely looking for a scarf because I don't have any scarves. I went in the cupboard to try and, like, I've got some scarves, but one of them is a Arsenal scarf. I don't know where that's come from. And another one's a Liverpool scarf. And, like, that nails your colours to the mast, doesn't it? I'm going to bring you a scarf scarf. I don't know where that's come from. And another one's a Liverpool scarf. Weird. That nails your colours to the mast, doesn't it? I'm going to bring you a scarf in.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I've got loads. I'm going to bring you one in. And I'm going to donate. I'm going to give it to you. And I want you to wear it. My favourite scarf is... Can you get me some gloves as well? I'm cold.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I'm very cold. Don't have to piss. I've got dogs to walk. Come on. I've got a scarf which is like a piano. Yes. Which I love. The only criticism I'd have of that scarf is that I've got a scarf which is like a piano. Yes. Which I love. The only criticism I'd have of that scarf that I've got
Starting point is 00:16:29 is that it's slightly too short. Not musical enough. I'd like it to be longer. In fact, if anyone listening to this show can knit me a piano scarf. You want a baby grand? A grand. You want a grand? I would love it.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I would absolutely love it. I'm a fan of the scarf. I'm wearing,'m wearing speaking of using my career for good I'm wearing a cardigan right now that was stitched
Starting point is 00:16:51 not stitched knitted not sewn knitted by a listener to Absolute Radio back in the day and I still wear it
Starting point is 00:16:58 what's the name I think the second name was Crowver you know ungrateful you don't know ungrateful I think their second name was Crowver. You know. Ungrateful. You don't know. Ungrateful.
Starting point is 00:17:10 It's just a massively made up name. No, I can't. Oh, it was a couple. They were lovely. They were absolutely lovely. Well, their surname was Crowver. That's not an answer. That's not an answer.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Brilliant. Peter, I've got back, and people won't know this because of the modern, one, there's a modern technology. Modern world. I've recently got back from the US.'t know this because of the wonders of modern technology. I've recently got back from the US. Oh, yes. Welcome home. Thank you very much. My six-month-old son was an absolute superstar.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Yay. Was by far the best behaved of all the family members, which I was not expecting. And so that was great. And I felt a real sense of achievement being able to do that trip for a couple of weeks with a six-month-old. It's not a trip without its logistical challenges, shall we say. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I saw your father-in-law 3D printing some guitar picks, which I very much enjoyed. He's the gift that keeps on giving. Yeah. He's just great. He's the 3D printer that keeps on printing.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I saw, and I should say actually, while we're on the subject, I don't want to go into too much detail because I think it's fair that people haven't chosen to be broadcasters themselves. There shouldn't be subjects too much of this kind of thing. But I would like to thank them for their accommodation and their generosity in helping us overcome the challenges
Starting point is 00:18:18 of travelling that far with a six-month-old. They're amazing. It's very snowy there. I imagine it's very snowy there. It wasn't actually. There was snow on the ground in some parts but we didn't actually witness too much snow ourselves which is a shame because I think we quite wanted to throw our baby into
Starting point is 00:18:31 a pile of snow and do a snow angel. Anyway, so I get to the house and LC has done he's basically got a Van Halen branded guitar pick in the house and I was like, LC this is fucking brilliant. Where'd you get that from? He's like, printed it myself. Come with me. Down in the house. And I was like, LC, this is fucking brilliant. Where'd you get that from?
Starting point is 00:18:46 He's like, I printed it myself. Come with me. Down to the basement. Printing hall. Printing me four guitar picks, two Van Halens and two Darth Vaders. Cheers, next.
Starting point is 00:18:54 That's the future. He's just constantly just getting reels and reels of 3D printing fibers. Yeah, he is. We now live in a world, right, and imagine,
Starting point is 00:19:03 I know this is going to sound like much, but you're the same age as me pretty much. Back in the 90s when we were kids and we were playing our guitars for the first time, we were losing our guitar picks and it was difficult to find new ones and they were only 50p, you had to go to the shop, right? We are now living in a world where if you lose your guitar pick, you can print yourself another one. And in the 90s, if I said that to you, you'd have been like, what are you talking about? I think the word print would, yeah, I mean, it's like making it out of nothing, isn't it, I suppose? You have this plastic moulding machine, a plastic printing machine in your house. And I guess, like, and what I would say with 3D printing,
Starting point is 00:19:35 I think that stuff must be perfect for guitar picks. It is actually... Like light gauge, very light gauge, but like good stuff. That's what I like. Yeah, that's what I like too. I'm not a great guitar player by any means, but I don't't like a heavy gauge pick i don't see how you can play with it block from queen playing with a 50p um coin no we used to you know what i used to do back in the day i used to absolutely love it when my dad got a new credit card yes because i used to cut up the
Starting point is 00:20:00 old one and use that um strum better it just feels more like a 12 string when you've got a lighter gauge I'm a very light gauge pick guy and you're right it's perfect I haven't actually used it yet but I can tell
Starting point is 00:20:11 by the feel it's going to be good I'll use it when I go to meet the band of dads next in a couple of weeks time and do it then
Starting point is 00:20:18 but what I was actually going to say was when you sidetracked me I came back to the news when I literally turned my phone on
Starting point is 00:20:25 and saw that Shane McGowan had died. Yeah. And I don't think anyone could say it's unexpected. What was your reaction to it? He's a Keith Richards type character. Say again? He's a Keith Richards type character.
Starting point is 00:20:38 He's indestructible. Yeah, absolutely indestructible. I was kind of like, yeah, I mean, 65 seems like late in the day to be honest i mean good god but uh he uh i very much enjoyed my favorite testimonial about and he seemed to be you know for a hellraiser he's quite a sort of sweet sweet um as a sweet essence to him let's say um with every story that comes but um i would say that um i very much enjoyed craig charles's
Starting point is 00:21:05 testimonial on six music last night as i was driving through uh the snow uh and he's going uh well i i used i had a couple of nights out with uh with uh with with him uh in the boogaloo in in in uh he caroned that bar did he yeah he caroned the boogaloo but yeah i think it's fair to say that he uh that he he didn't have much to say for himself um it just sounded like he drank in a bar that was owned by shun mcgowan and that's the limits of his story i mean good stuff he's he's known as i think he's known as someone who you know did a lot of his articulation through his songwriting and his various addictions, I think it's unfair to say. But I mean, I would recommend, there's a documentary about him.
Starting point is 00:21:55 It's not actually that good a documentary, but it's one of those documentaries where his story itself is so just fascinating that you can't really fuck it up. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Is that the one where his guitarist puts his head through a mirror? No, that is from an interview in Holland, I think,
Starting point is 00:22:17 with a music journalist that's filmed. It may feature, I can't remember, but the documentary in question is called Croc of Gold, A Few Rounds with Shane McGowan. But, I mean, Shane McGowan started, filmed uh it may feature i can't remember but the documentary in question is called crock of gold a few rounds with shay mcgowan and and but but i mean shay mcgowan's like shay mcgowan started drinking guinness at the age of five years old but i'm not just talking about the fact that like oh his dad would give him a little tot of guinness to help him sleep i'm talking about that he'd take him to the pub and he'd be like the party trick like he would drink a pint like at five years old so he obviously had a very very interesting show as they start to life and then we shouldn't trivialize nor
Starting point is 00:22:51 glamorize kind of people's struggle with addictions it's not our place to do so and he certainly had those issues around not just alcohol but heroin and other things as well so it sounds like he didn't have the greatest um you know uh foundation let's say no i don't think so but but what i would like to say is that um actually if you look uh and we could talk about his influence on music and and you know all the rest of it and the way he's influenced you know pop music not just in this country but in the us as well massively there's some artists that you'll know really well because that's kind of they would always talk about the pogues and the garen all the rest of it um these celtic punk and pop punk kind of bands. But it's not about that for me.
Starting point is 00:23:27 If you go back and listen to Rum, Sodomy and The Lash, right, that is a fucking 10 out of 10 brilliant album. There's not a dull moment on it. It's a perfect blend of new arranged traditional stuff and brilliant songwriting by McGowan. And he is this type of songwriter.
Starting point is 00:23:44 To me, it's no coincidence that he was good friends with Nick Cave because the way they write songs, both those people, I mean, I think Nick Cave's a better songwriter than him, but that's not the point. The style of songwriting is very, very honest. It's that kind of Ernest Hemingway, sit at the typewriter and bleed type stuff. It's essentially poetry to music from one man's soul.
Starting point is 00:24:06 What was that cover that they did together? Him and Cave? Oh, I'm not sure off the top of my head. I think it was What a Wonderful World which was surprisingly accomplished. Didn't they put a spell on you? Oh, maybe they did. As well. That's good.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I can't find it on here. But they were there's a great interview the NME ran with Cave, McGowan and Mark E. Smith of The Fall. Good God. Just absolutely
Starting point is 00:24:33 just rotten. Just the smell. Rotten stuff. Yeah. Nick Cave smelling like lavender or something. Yeah, back when Nick Cave was still kind of partaking.
Starting point is 00:24:43 It's funny because Nick Cave's red hand files which he does and he emails out once a week is like half the answers are like sometimes he gets questions where like nick when you were a young man uh you said this and now you're saying this is it true that you've become a conservative or whatever and and and i think you got a lot of stick for example for going to the king's coronation and stuff yeah right and and nick's nick caves like answers are generally like dear so-and-so when i was a young man as you may have read i was absolutely demented now i wouldn't take anything seriously that i said before the
Starting point is 00:25:16 age about 30 because i took heroin 60 times a day you know he's that kind of answer right but um but and then he goes on i mean he I mean, you can't cancel someone who just goes, I was on a lot of drugs. Don't worry about it. I was on absolute rotten shit for 25 years of my life. But he would go into this kind of chat about how, you know, put yourself in my position. If you're invited to something like that,
Starting point is 00:25:41 isn't it an amazing thing to go and see? You don't have to endorse it. You don't have to kind of, you know, it's not like I'm giving them money. I've been invited as an ambassador or whatever for your culture. It's a great experience. So of course I'm going to go.
Starting point is 00:25:54 But anyway, I was just going to say that I think he got a lot of stick for that because he was a counter-cultural figure who's now kind of been adopted by the mainstream and is kind of an anecdotalist type public figure now as much as he is a songwriter. Now, of course, Shane McGowan's never been that. Now, partly that's to do
Starting point is 00:26:12 with health issues and stuff, but also it's because of a massive pride in how Irish he is, despite being born in England. I think he was born in Kent. But he has a huge iconoclastic countercultural side to him that really won out,
Starting point is 00:26:29 and he was uncompromising on everything he did. And if you transpose that back to conversations we've just had about the state of modern entertainment, now, you can have your own opinions on that, but we can all surely agree that it's quite, it's quite sanitized, quite safe. And, and it's not really much edginess on telly now.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I mean, you wouldn't get a Chris Morris on TV much now, for example. And McGowan is, it was a relic of that era where it was like, actually, do you know what? It's like the Bill Hicks thing.
Starting point is 00:26:58 You know, Bill Hicks would say, Oh, people complain that John Bonham, you know, would, would fucking, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:04 puke up in a doorway and Robert Plant would do this. They're supposed to fucking do that. That's their job. Why do you want a rock and roll star to be safe and a good example to your children? That's not... Rock and roll is the absolute opposite of what rock and roll is.
Starting point is 00:27:20 I think Shane McGowan kind of embodied that. He's almost doing that stuff so you don't have to, if you know what I mean. Yeah. We'll probably have to hit a quick had break and then do a couple of embodied that. He's almost doing that stuff so you don't have to, if you know what I mean. Yeah. We'll probably have to hit a quick had break and then do a couple of emails maybe. A had break? A had break because we had some advertising
Starting point is 00:27:33 before you started talking about heroin. Thank you very much. Sorry. That's the thing that gets me. That's the thing that gets me about YouTube. You can't get on telly if you're edgy, and you can't really get on YouTube or any of the major streaming mechanisms
Starting point is 00:27:46 and make any money because the algorithm just absolutely buries your stuff if you talk about anything spicy or anything particularly interesting. I didn't know that. I should have. So it's kind of like you can't talk about edgy topics. You can be like a fascist, or you can be like a men's rights activist,
Starting point is 00:28:04 or you can be a xenopho rights activist, or you could be a xenophobe, but you can't actually talk about proper stuff and make any money out of it. So there's nowhere for edgy people to go anymore. The algorithms have made the entire internet not very rock and roll at all.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Right, we'll be back in a second with some post-Hadbrick reactions. Go back to school with Rogers and get Canada's fastest and most reliable internet. Perfect for streaming lectures all day or binging TV shows all night. Save up to $20 per month on Rogers Internet. Visit rogers.com for details. We got you.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Rogers. Rogers.com for details. We got you. Rogers. Hey, I just did a spit on the old pop shield. That's what it's there for. The pop shield's there for a reason, baby. It protects my... I bought a microphone a little while ago.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I don't really know what it is, but I just said, what's the best microphone for a studio? And it's got a man's name like sort of signatured on it so it's been signed by a famous american uh mark notfler no has haslen hogan i think they're called haslen hogan um i think they're like a famous voiceover artist so i've i basically bought it for the signature harlan hogan harlan hogan right what did harlan hogan do with that i'm just looking at his wikipedia right was he just a
Starting point is 00:29:31 really popular voiceover artist who's got his signature on some microphones apparently he's got many famous advertising catchphrases oh nice okay bring it on um what is it buy this product the thing is though presumably he's just reading these that have been written by someone else yeah I guess well I don't know maybe if he was operating back in
Starting point is 00:29:50 like the 70s he might be like where's the beef guy you know what I mean you had a bit more rope back then okay I'll give you some examples
Starting point is 00:29:57 this is just from his Wikipedia page if he's been cancelled I don't know that's why I bought the microphone I don't accept responsibility for it
Starting point is 00:30:03 I'll read it for you to him I'll try and do it I've I bought the microphone. I don't accept responsibility for it. I'll read a few to him. I'll try and do it in his... I've never heard him speak, but I'll try and do it in his style as well, if you like. Ready? Yeah. Strong enough for a man. I mean, I presume he's American, right?
Starting point is 00:30:16 Yes, I think so, yeah. You'll never get a second chance to make a first impression. Okay. Oh, I think I've heard that one before. Second chance, first impression. I've got two more to go. Okay. Oh, I think I've heard that one before. Second chance, first impression. I've got two more to go. Okay. When you care enough to send the very best.
Starting point is 00:30:32 That's nice. I like that one. And the final one is confusing. Quaker life. It's the cereal even Mikey likes. Yes. Apparently little Mikey is in the Quaker Oats commercial in the 70s. Right, and he just did not care for most oats.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I think he looks like quite a precocious young chap. Well, a little one, I suppose. There you go. Anyway, I mean, so he is... All right. I mean, he's got a surprisingly short Wikipedia article for a man who's got his own signature microphone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Why don't we get sponsored by a microphone brand? That's all we use. I know. That's all we do all day long yeah guitarists get their own signature guitars right and then
Starting point is 00:31:09 yeah we could have stack mics we could have we could have the Jim Campbell special where it's just really it cannot get close to your mouth yeah what would mine be Pete
Starting point is 00:31:18 just the volume only went above one volume yeah volume very low volume very low and like a beard protector yeah to protect the beard. I've got my own pop shield.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Nature's pop shield. Nature's pop shield. Let's do a couple of emails then, because we've got a follow-up from Martin about the fridge in a fence. Fridge in a fence, fridge in a fence. Is this the person who was talking about it being like some kind of heat transfer for an incubator or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Well, I mean, the plot just thickens, really. We posted the photo on social media. It got a lot of traction. Yeah. Oh, by the way, actually, on that note, I should say a personal thank you to everyone who sent me the evidence on their Spotify wrapped that they listened to the Luke and Pete show.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Frankly, an unhealthy amount. Tis the season. There's people in pretty good jobs that I know who sent me that. And I just sort of go, that's a bad thing. That is just a bad thing. One of them was a global, I saw, because I looked at their LinkedIn, was a global head of something. It's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Yeah, but these people started listening to our wank 10 years ago when they were in terms. When they were work experience. Yeah, yeah. I like the idea of a real job. I mean, I would like to turn that into money. I would like to turn those relationships into pure money, but we're unmolested thus far.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Make a contribution, please. I love the idea of someone who's just preparing for a really high-powered meeting. Probably in my mind, someone like New York in a corner office on the 30th floor and they're listening to you fucking stumble over who Boney M were before they go in. Well, look, I think
Starting point is 00:32:57 you're the confident side. I'm the non-confident side about my own memories and I think if you're going into a meeting, look, it's never going to be as bad as Pete trying to remember Born EM. It just never is. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Martin, who sent the original Fridge Friends email in, he's actually getting on his way to being a Luke and Pete show royalty. Because this email was very, very interesting to a lot of our listeners. He says, Hello, Luke and Pete. Here is the French Friends update
Starting point is 00:33:22 nobody asked for, wants or needs. I want it. I want it. I need it. I think I may have asked for it, so that's not your fault, Martin. He says, because of your shock and confusion regarding the French fridge, I thought I would check out the location on Google Earth. Unfortunately, though, the fridge is obscured by the occupier unloading some shopping, perhaps directly into the aforementioned fridge,
Starting point is 00:33:42 and the property also eerily shares a boundary with the local crematorium. Oh. I've included the pictures and coordinates below. Wow, that is interesting. So, we need to know more. I mean, I'll tell you what, Wondery would do about 15 episodes on this.
Starting point is 00:33:58 We do it in a five-minute email. Yeah, why? He's let himself down a little bit though, Martin, by saying, P.Ss i listen to the luke and peach at 1.2 speed as i have so many pods to get through every week disappointing to hear that but what can you do yeah i mean i mean listening to me on 1.2 speed is demented yeah it's it's a difficult list i've never understood why why people how people can do that uh but it's an
Starting point is 00:34:20 interesting scene i mean it looks like someone they someone, they're getting something out of a car. I'll wait till next year. Maybe the Google cameras have passed by. Or maybe next time I'm driving through Hull, I'll have a look. Fascinating. I think given that he shared the coordinates with us, we have the ability to take it into our own hands. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I think if Martin is too frightened to go round there himself, that's disappointing. But he's got access to it. So he should just knock on the door and say, hi, I want to see you've got a fridge in your fence. I'm interested what that's for. Yeah, where is... The same way the other guy who emailed him
Starting point is 00:34:52 wouldn't go round to the jet ski man's house because he was too frightened. That's a good point. But I think he had reasons for that. I mean, Hull's not a million miles away from... That is a bit of a deviation. I think I'm going to have to drive up to Hartlepool at some point before Christmas to mend some bridges.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Maybe I can... Oh, man. You're not spending Christmas at the family's, mate. No, no, no, that's not happening. Because we're spending it down here and they're not coming down because they don't want to. And I have maybe said some things about that that I possibly regret. The John Lewis.
Starting point is 00:35:30 John Lewis. What do you mean John Lewis? It's a John Lewis advert, isn't it? It is, yeah. The John Lewis advert from hell. Oh, and what happens at the end? Do they all have Christmas dinner? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:35:38 My dad drinks. One of them gets pissed and sends a couple of texts. My dad drinks alone on Christmas Day in a flat roof pub. It's good stuff. It's good stuff. It's good stuff. In some way, for some reason, I still find that
Starting point is 00:35:49 less depressing than what you're doing. Yeah, it's a very good point, actually, yeah. So you're going to go up there before Christmas to spread some good cheer?
Starting point is 00:35:56 Spread some good cheer, hand over some presents. But I never announce... Chuck about the windows you drive past? Never announce myself because that stresses them out. So, yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:36:07 What are you going to do? So you can't tell them when you're going because they will get stressed about preparing. They'll just get stressed about preparing, yeah, exactly. But not that they put on a spreader. I mean, they just get stressed out about me driving for five hours. But, hey. You are quite an anxiety-inducing bloke, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:22 People don't want me near them. I've learned to live in the chaos, but I think for a long time I was kind of frightened as what you were going to do on the show and stuff, particularly live shows. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:36:31 That's all right, isn't it? Well, no, I think it's just your problem. It's my problem. The way the world is these days, I can just excuse myself. I'm sure there's some contractual, plausible deniability and distancing that has been hard-coded
Starting point is 00:36:44 in the contracts of stacking in general. I've got a statement on my computer which I can just release, which starts with... You'd like to distance ourselves from Pete Donaldson. Yeah, we are very disappointed in the recent actions of Mr Pete Donaldson. I mean, wait until the dust sets before you put it out, because it may have been
Starting point is 00:37:00 completely innocent why I was waving a shotgun around an orphanage. They may have owed me money. That's unlikely. That's unlikely. Let's finish with this email from George. Hello to you, George. George.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Thank you for getting in touch. He says, hi, guys. I've recently become a new dad. Oh, congratulations. Congratulations to you, George. And I wanted to thank Luke for his tip about buying a perfect prep machine for the bottle feeds. It really is like a coffee machine for babies.
Starting point is 00:37:22 And it's been an absolute godsend for the night feeds and I'm trying to let my wife have some much deserved sleep I'm waiting with bated breath when did babies stop using bottles? yeah is it one? yeah it kind of depends it depends how good they are you get weaning milk don't you?
Starting point is 00:37:35 I always see the weaning milk in Tesco's you don't need to buy that he says I'm waiting for bated breath for the release of Luke's new parenting podcast all joking aside becoming a dad has been a mad experience and I've found hearing a familiar voice discussed going through similar experiences to me
Starting point is 00:37:49 really supportive. There were some complications with the birth and listening to the podcast really helped keep my head on straight, which meant I was able to support my wife through a difficult time. I'm grateful to you both for that and the little one is doing great now. Thanks for all the laughs and mad stories. I hope this makes its way to you both, even if it's not read out on the show.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Well, George, it is read out on the show because it's something that makes me sound good. So that's always going to make the cut. I will tell you a little story about this email. Rory forwarded it to me saying, I'm sure you'd like to read this. Obviously, we're not going to read it out. And I was like, we fucking are reading it out.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Yeah, 100%. And I would also like to add and finish by saying yet another product that we, or at least one of us, uses, endorses, and bigs up on this show, the Tommy Tippy Perfect Prep Machine. Again, not chucking any advertising revenue our way. No, Perfect Prep Machine. Now, what is that?
Starting point is 00:38:38 That sounds expensive. It's not really. No. It's a great bit of kit for new parents. That's all I'll say. And I'm only speaking the truth. It just keeps it warm. It just keeps really. No. It's a great bit of kit for new parents. That's all I'll say. And I'm only speaking the truth. It just keeps it warm. It just keeps the bottles warm.
Starting point is 00:38:48 No. It delivers the milk to the perfect temperature in the right amount every time, whatever time of day or night it is. Oh, it's like a milk. You pour the milk in. It's like a coffee machine for babies. I understand now.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Yeah. Well done, everyone. Yeah, it's everything. You fill it up. You fill up the vessel and then it just kind of dispenses. It's a milk dispenser for babas. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:39:08 And we're not doing a parenting podcast because I find them distasteful. We'll be talking on the show next week, on Thursday rather, about how to prevent colic, which is just burping or something. The trick is you can't. No one knows. All right, no idea. All right, then. We'll be back on Thursday with battery brands
Starting point is 00:39:26 and tips about perfectly prepping your baby's bottle. I want to know more about this fridge fence. I'm just desperate to hear more about it. People of Hull, get going. Have a little Christmas, you know, post-Christmas party walk over to see it. Imagine really pissed people just descend on that poor person's house. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Just try and open it and if you can't inquire as to why. Okie dokie. Anyone on Exeter should get down to that jet ski house and find out a bit more about that as well.
Starting point is 00:39:53 There's mysteries all over the country. We want them solved. Yes please. Alright then. We'll be back soon with more Lugabee Short. Look after yourselves. You've only got a couple of days
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