The Luke and Pete Show - Dig it

Episode Date: June 22, 2020

On today’s episode we’re discussing how Pete's sartorial approach to visiting different countries, and remembering the heady days when emo music was still cool.Elsewhere, have you ever thought wha...t's doing most of the heavy lifting on a really hot or cold day? That's right, thermometers. Shout out to all the hardworking thermometers out there in Siberia, Miami and South Korea.Finally, listen in for a particularly enjoyable story about a man who dug 33 tonnes of clay out from beneath his own house. Don't try this at (or under your own) home!To get involved, send us your thoughts at hello@lukeandpeteshow.com!***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:24 Peloton all-access membership separate. Learn more at onepeloton.ca slash running. Welcome to the Luke and the Pete show. It is a Monday. The sun is shining where I am. The sun is also shining where Luke Moore is, but he's wearing a jumper, inexplicably. Yes, hello, everyone.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Welcome to the Luke and Pete show. As Pete says, I am the Luke part of the equation. I'm not wearing a jumper, Peter. As you well know, before we started recording, I said, bear with me a second. I'm just going to take my jumper off. And the reason for me wearing a jumper is as we compete competitively for the most boring start to one of these episodes ever,
Starting point is 00:01:10 it's because I live up on a hill and we have the windows open to get a breeze through, but there's no real sunshine present in the house, obviously, and the wind rips through like you wouldn't believe. So in the morning, it is actually still a little bit chilly, even though the old thermometer says it's about 25 degrees but pete on that on that note actually um got a uh text through from my father-in-law uh yesterday shout out the big lc who people people who listen regularly will know that he's a big fan of the show he sent me a screenshot of
Starting point is 00:01:41 the thermometer in his house in Connecticut, 107. Now, I might need a bit of help with this one. The Celsius Fahrenheit has always confused me. Yeah, so basically that is roughly, I would say, I'm trying to think, 37.7 is 100, so it's about 41 and a bit. Jiminy, like, yeah, thermometer is in America, or certainly that part of America, certainly work a lot harder than ours.
Starting point is 00:02:09 You don't kind of appreciate how kind of... Yeah, exactly, Pete. Why are thermometers paid the same amount in the UK? They shouldn't be, because they don't do anything. They shouldn't be a double time, yeah. They fluctuate between about 12 and about 22. That's it. That's it, exactly.
Starting point is 00:02:23 I feel sorry for the thermometers in uh in in that part of america because like new york for example i went to new york for um what do you call it new year's eve one time and it was colder than i've ever been in my life and i've been to like oh i don't know have i been to belarus is that called i don't know but i remember it being minus 15, and I think it was around about minus 10 in New York. And New York in the summer is unbearably hot. Like, I don't understand how you – I've said it before, how the infrastructure manages to deal with the freezing cold but also the heat as well.
Starting point is 00:02:57 But, yeah, they should be on double time in America, I think. Yeah, there was a really interesting story about – I saw it yesterday about how for the first time ever, there's been a temperature of over 100 degrees Fahrenheit recorded in Siberia. Right, okay. That's obviously, I think we can all agree, not a good thing. But the other thing that I found absolutely fascinating about it, to the point where I thought, I'm going to need to reread that is that for perspective it's only ever reached over 100 degrees fahrenheit once in miami's history which i found absolutely staggering to read apparently well because it's so close to the coast oh this is a constant breeze and so the temperature technically never goes hardly
Starting point is 00:03:42 ever goes over 100 degrees fahrenheit which i found fascinating because you'd expect it to be way higher than that. Do you find sort of – I'm sure we've got listeners in Siberia. I'm sure we've got listeners in parts of Russia, obviously. I find Siberia – I think there was a game called Siberia back in the day. I take all of my knowledge from video games of the 90s on the Amiga and the PC and stuff like that. And rightly so. And rightly so. I take all of my knowledge from video games of the 90s on the Amiga and the PC and stuff like that. And rightly so. And rightly so, I agree.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And Siberia always seemed like this kind of like magical kind of place where woolly mammoths existed and stuff like that. And Yakutsk, modern Yakutsk is like this kind of like town that I'd really like to visit one day. But there's no point in going when it's not absolutely snowed in. But if it's really snowed
Starting point is 00:04:25 in it's really hard to get to so you may as well just visit it in summer i think it's got the biggest swing in the whole of um in the whole of russia and siberia like it gets really cold and really um warm in different parts of the earth but yeah that's right i don't know man like it's it's a magical place this is where they find all the fossils in it yeah i think i should be probably more specific about what i said because i'm'm sure, I don't know where enough, the kind of geographic, sort of, thing that applies to Siberia specifically.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I should probably be more specific and say that, there's a town in Siberia, called Verkoyansk, I think, which is technically inside the Arctic Circle, and that hit 100.4 degrees Fahrenheit, which is, whoa, what's going on? You've been taken away you've been arrested no i'm outside of my house of oxford because i've moved the um soho
Starting point is 00:05:12 is very much back to normal and so i've moved back into the back of the kitchen but the problem is there's helicopters because of um the protest you've got so because you live in grand theft frolicking in the uh in the back and also, yeah, the police wheeling around. Right, so let me just wrap up to move on because we didn't plan, well, we don't plan any of this, but I didn't necessarily plan to do so much on this. But Arctic Circle, 100 degrees Fahrenheit, first time ever.
Starting point is 00:05:39 And then the only time that Miami, according to a climatologist in Florida, the only time that Miami, according to a climatologist in Florida, the only time that Miami has ever hit 100 degrees Fahrenheit was on July 21st, 1942. Oh, I thought it would have been in the middle of a Mr. Worldwide concert. Mr. Worldwide, Pitbull, yeah. Mr. Worldwide, he's always down in Miami, isn't he? I'm starting to see now why, another reason why people love miami because
Starting point is 00:06:05 clearly it's obviously nice and warm but it doesn't ever get that warm good i'm all about that that sounds good to me is it a dry heat i the most inhospitable places i've been is jeju in korea uh during the height of summer where it is just so moist um it's like a kind of like just a little island and i ate some fried chicken it was very hot um and i ate an ice cream and i was still so hot i couldn't get a taxi uh and i had i don't i don't use the term breakdown loosely obviously but i think i had uh a mental episode episode that I couldn't get back to my air-conditioned Airbnb. I'd eaten too much hot fried chicken with spicy sauce on it.
Starting point is 00:06:52 My friend couldn't help me with getting a taxi back to the flat. And I said, Craig, I've had enough. I can't deal with this anymore. And he made me go back into, I think think the ice cream parlor for my ice cream um so there's only two or three times where i thought this is too much um and then jay was just the heat of jay was just too much for me you say that oh i don't want i don't use the term breakdown lightly and many people will think that's because you don't want to be insensitive to people with mental health problems yes but the reality is that you don't use it lightly
Starting point is 00:07:21 because if you did you would probably have to admit to about 15 a day. I don't want to put them in a diary. I don't think Miami is a dry heat, no, because the whole of the southern, southeastern United States is essentially one giant swamp, isn't it? Soggy, yeah. I doubt it is dry heat.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I bet it's very humid. I tell you what, if you ever sort of visit like New Orleans and for the first time I visited New Orleans, it was obviously on the south, I thought I'm going to look like a cool British guy and I'm going to wear a blue linen suit. And you look good for the first five minutes. And then you look like you've literally just climbed out of the bayou.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Is that wet? The bayou is the river, isn't it? So, yeah. So, yeah, you just look absolutely sweaty as hell. Do you plan your kind of sartorial decisions for different places that far in advance then? No, but I just, I think whenever it comes to going to a foreign country, I think it's important as an Englishman to dress as well as possible,
Starting point is 00:08:23 not because I'm like a raging kind of nationalist, just that a lot of places like in New Orleans, a lot of like guys who are in bars, they're always wearing cargo shorts. And I just can't get with that. I'd rather look like I'm not from the cargo shots. You were a big three-quarter length man, weren't you, for a a jot yeah but that that's a look in itself that's a i'm going to a punk rock show i've not left behind my no fx roots but i think when i'm abroad i like to
Starting point is 00:08:56 have a little linen suit in the back in the back of the cupboard just in case i want to show that i'm um i'm not of uh you, I've got no need for cargo shorts. I'm not a man who owns many tools. No. Is that fair? No, I think you've got a lot in your locker, actually. I just think some of it is a little bit awkward. But could you wear perhaps top half linen suit,
Starting point is 00:09:21 bottom half cargo shorts? As long as they were well upholstered and kind of... So you wear a hat? Well, like a Panama hat, blue linen suit with waistcoat, jorts and Etnies skate shoes on the bottom. I mean, what a... New found glory on the air, bud. New found glory.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I'm having it look I'm in yeah we listened to Newfound Glory in the car the other day Mimi and I
Starting point is 00:09:52 it was lots of fun which song I can't remember actually shall I ask her yeah yeah if you would hang on a sec I'll ask her
Starting point is 00:09:59 you feel like I can ask her it could have been you're always dressed dressed to kill could have been my friends. It could have been, you're always dressed to kill. Could have been, my friends over you. Could have been, oh God, what would it have been now?
Starting point is 00:10:11 I don't know a lot of Newfound Glory. I think the lead singer went out with, not Ariana Grande. Who's that young punk lady who did Skater Boy? My friends over you was the song. My friends over you. That was my friends over you that was a good one that one yeah that's a that's a classic newfound track that was like they were the thinking man's blink 182 i thought i do you know what i that whole scene kind of passed me by
Starting point is 00:10:35 and i live with someone at uni who was into it and i kind of tangentially became exposed to it and i didn't i didn't i didn't sort of like it or dislike it really i was just like yeah fine um but um when i heard that song which i'd never heard before i thought to myself you know what i wouldn't mind listening to that again it's a perfectly decent pop song but no problem with it and so i'll maybe revisit it at some point oh can i make you a punk playlist like a little punk rock uh emo fun playlist i think you get a lot out of it you could do can i there's one thing that kind of puts me off if you don't mind me saying and one is that because i'm friends with you on spotify in the little bar on the right and so i can see what you're listening to and um i don't like that
Starting point is 00:11:17 much of it the last song i listened to on spotify was royison's I Drove All Night. And I listened to that song quite a lot. Tears? What? With tears in my eyes. I think some guy was, my mate Ed, he comes up with the most amazing YouTube videos. And I always forward them on YouTube to you, to be honest. But he sent me a clip of a very accomplished, I think he was a folk musician. And he's very funny
Starting point is 00:11:45 in the badinage in between his songs and he he sort of did a bit from i drove all night by roy alberson and it was uh i drove all night crept in your room to make love to you is that all right like roy alberson is asking is that all right as you slept make made love to you is that all right it's just it was such it was delivered with such deadpan uh brilliance it really really was very very good it was a um this is fair to say that um it was a different time is doing a lot of heavy lifting in society at the moment oh mate i mean there's there's a um there's a something corporate song again an emo band um i kissed a drunk girl uh which was which look emo lads the dominoes are falling left right and center problematic men it didn't stop at
Starting point is 00:12:34 the 70s that's all we're saying all right especially emo ones who thought they deserved you know they deserve the love of women that... Yeah, I'm not even getting into it. Why am I getting into this? Let's move on, shall we? Jesus Christ. Some of the lyrics in emo songs are problematic in 2020. They were problematic then, they're problematic now.
Starting point is 00:12:55 No one's listening to brand new anymore, and that's because of reasons, all right? Pete, can I just say, when you first started that sentence, even I thought, I don't know where he's going to go with this. I didn't. I don't think he can get out of this. I just want people to know I'm cognizant of the fact that a lot of emo music is problematic.
Starting point is 00:13:14 At the very least, needy. Can I talk to you about a problematic chap of a different stripe? Okay. And I'm not implying that he's done anything untoward with anyone else uh and to be honest it wouldn't matter if i did because he's dead but uh there is no suggestion that he is a problematic individual to other human beings just okay to himself it's a guy called william little have you heard of him bill little no i don't think i have. So he was a British civil engineer who gained a certain amount of infamy in, I probably want to say the latter part of the 20th century,
Starting point is 00:13:53 bleeding into the 21st century, because he left a 20-room big old house in Hackney in the mid-60s, and he decided, this is great British eccentricism. 20 rooms in Hackney? I know, right? I know. 60s. And he decided this is great British eccentricism. 20 rooms in Hackney. I know. That's a squat. Mortimer Road in Hackney. This is a great example of British eccentricity.
Starting point is 00:14:16 He said in the mid 60s he decided he wanted a wine cellar under his house. I'm not getting involved with all the kind of crap i'm just gonna do it myself and uh he dug out a massive yeah he dug out a massive wine cellar under his home right having done that he said this is all said in retrospect that he found a real taste for digging and so for the next 40 years created a network of tunnels on several levels in all directions,
Starting point is 00:14:46 some of them 18 metres in length, and went as far down as the water table. One of his tunnels connected with the railway line at Dalston Lane Tunnel, and he dumped all the clay he dug up into his garden and all the empty rooms of his house that he didn't use. Oh, my God. So his whole house was just solid like a solid
Starting point is 00:15:06 minecraft house yeah basically the only way people realized is because the neighbors started to complain because random sinkholes were part started to appear in their gardens and in the pavements around their houses and then water and power supplies were constantly interrupted and the local pub said they were a bit worried their cellar might be collapsing. I mean, to get a taste, how did nobody know? I mean, presumably he didn't use, what year was this? 60?
Starting point is 00:15:37 He started then. It got discovered in 2006, I think. I mean, that is incredible. I mean, he would be using electric tools as well. So, like, you can't blame that on an underground, you know, if it's happening at weird times of the day, you can't blame that on an underground, you know, Dalston train.
Starting point is 00:15:53 No. I have no information or intel on the tools he used, so I can't help you on that. But he was evicted from his house. And obviously, as a part of that. He'll get back in. He'll get back in he'll get back in somehow he was he was um he was evicted and obviously journalists and journalists picked up the story and they interviewed him and he just said i think this is quite a um it's quite a kind of poignant poignant
Starting point is 00:16:16 quote he said i'm just a man who loves to dig there's a great beauty in inventing things that serve no purpose um but they guess how many tons of soil and debris they took out of his house when it was renovated after he moved out 33 tons i mean did did he sort of pack it in like did he'd have to squeeze the soil and all of the water out of the soil to go to jesus so it's all been taken over now and um the the been, I mean, presumably for safety reasons, which I kind of understand, but it's a bit of a shame that the tunnels have been filled completely with aerated concrete and poor old William Little had to cover the cost of everything, which was £293,000.
Starting point is 00:16:59 And sadly, sadly, he's passed away now. Well, in 2007, presumably, how many bedroom house? Five, six? Oh, what? That would be a decent amount of money. I don't think he would have been shot of a bob or two. I mean, whether he'd be able to find it
Starting point is 00:17:13 or not underneath all that soil, I don't know. But the problem is, Peter, I think what happened was, like I said, he inherited that house, right? Right. And so in 2008, he's told he had to pay yeah like i say almost 300 000 pounds but he died in 2010 anyway and in in in 2012 the property was sold as it was i think
Starting point is 00:17:35 for just over a million quid and then it was renovated and now it's um i think it's now an art studio and some other bits but it's just a fascinating story i i understand that we have to be sensitive here there may i don't know but there may well have been some kind of mental health issue at play because it does seem like a very eccentric thing to do but he was i mean from what i've read he was fairly unrepentant so you know i just enjoyed doing it i liked uh digging digging tunnels it was a hobby and obviously it got a bit i get it man i really get it like do you fancy it i presume someone should have bought my copy of mine, is all I'm saying. I bet you, sadly. Give him a bit...
Starting point is 00:18:07 I mean, it's a little bit like the Miner Willy versus Jet Set Willy video game, because obviously Miner Willy was like a... He was a guy who hung out in mines. I thought that was called Manic Miner. Yeah, so his character was called Miner Willy. Oh, okay, right. It was very anti- or pro-Thatcher.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I forget what... I think it was anti-Thatcher back anti or pro thatcher i forget what i think it was anti thatcher back in the day uh and the whole mining um union and stuff but yeah in the first game he was a minor manic minor and then he um got i think he got rich and he became a member of the aristocracy and jet set willie was about him tidying up his massive 16 million room mansion so he's a modern day minor Willie for me, but I do wonder whether he was cremated or they dug a hole for him.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yeah, you have to be sure. Basically bury him facing down. So if he does dig, he just goes further down. Oh, mate, that's adorable. It's funny you say that about Jet Set Willie and Manic Minor because I played both those games as a kid and that narrative you've just described there is the first I've heard
Starting point is 00:19:06 of it. It completely passed me by. Yeah, we just don't see it. It makes perfect sense. Well, Thatcher. Thatcher's... I'm not going to get into that. Let's hit a break. Shall we hit a break and then come back with some emails? Why not?
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Starting point is 00:20:00 back. It's the Luke and Pete Show. It is part two of your Monday Dose. Think of us as the Monday penicillin you have to take after the terrible things you've done over the weekend. Yeah. Um, hello, Luke and Pete show.com. If you want to get to the show and,
Starting point is 00:20:13 and people have been doing that, Luke, people have been doing that. Don't take penicillin if you're allergic to it. It feels like a, like a large number of people are allergic to penicillin. So just do be careful. That's what I'll say.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Why would you be allergic to penicillin? It's like the universal panacea for all ills you. Hello at lukeandpeach.com to let us know. I don't know. I'm not allergic to anything. If you're allergic to penicillin, let us know. Yeah. What about this email from Ian, who says,
Starting point is 00:20:40 Hi, guys. Love the show. Just wanted to be a pedantic Irishman and correct your latest episode title. Insultants of Pings 1991 banger wears me jumper. The lyric is actually met him eating mushrooms in the People's Park, not public park. The People's Park is a cork institution where many people, including myself, misspent their youth smoking illegal drugs. And where you may be accosted by local drunkards
Starting point is 00:21:05 asking you for a euro for the bus. The people of Cork are very proud, and I'm sure if there's another Cork listener out there, he'll be happy for the correction. It's a nice tribute to the song Outside the Park 2, and he's attached a photo of a little bit of graffiti or art, whatever we're going to want to call it, with the
Starting point is 00:21:22 Sultans of Ping lyrics. I am not a sultans of ping connoisseur i don't know anything about them apart from that song which as ian's already mentioned came out in 1991 and if memory serves me correctly last week i think i originally incorrectly attributed it to the mac lads anyway so that shows the level of knowledge i'm at um apologies for the episode title yeah what can you do what can you do i didn't get involved i mean i should have known that i mean i did play it every now and again on absolute but uh yeah i only want today though well the norah pete guarantee uh was a movable face when i was uh at the helm very much a guy i would i would yeah it was a
Starting point is 00:22:03 guideline every now and again. And especially when we'd be playing songs that would be things like U2's, is it One? Was there a song by U2 called One? And the Kings of Leon's Sex on Fire. Both of those songs were on the emergency CD. And if I went to the loo for any length of time and forgot to make the computer play the next song, it would just have five seconds of silence. The emergency CD would kick in and then we'd be
Starting point is 00:22:29 hearing possibly a repeated song if I'd played Kings of Leon's Sex on Fire earlier in that hour. So yeah, boring, tedious administrative chat about running a radio station, but it's important to know who you're dealing with and listening to. Got an email from Jim Crook. Say hello, Jim. Hi there, the pal show. That's exactly how it should go. Over the course of the last four or five weeks, I've listened to the entire back catalogue from episode one to catch up to the point at which I started listening last year. I suggested listening to the show to my friend Harry, and he started from the beginning. So I saw lockdown as the perfect opportunity to fill in the missing episodes. I thought i'd share some key phrases and themes that have been stuck in my head in that time what i like about this email is that we do this show
Starting point is 00:23:13 every single week and we don't really sort of think about the themes and the things that we talk about um per se but the but it's nice to have like um like touchstones that other people have noticed thermal paste is in there. He's given us a big list. Thermal Paste, Julian Assange there, Succulent Chinese Meal, Pete's Dad's Bedtime, Democracy Manifest,
Starting point is 00:23:34 Pete's Sunday Chinese, Fucking Sphincter. I don't remember that one. No. What was Fucking Sphincter? Oh, it's Brian Blessed, isn't it? It's Brian Blessed. Oh, yes, of course it was.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yes. Yeah, good old Blessed. Goodness Me, which is my go-to word fucking sphincter now oh it's brian blessed isn't it it's brian blessed oh yes of course it was yes yeah good old blessed uh goodness me which is my go-to word whenever i'm uh uh stressed out and doing a live broadcast and uh luke's bullshit story about pete only having three shits in the entire entirety of uh oh pete by the way i mean if you were if you if you and the listeners would allow me i started to feel like last few days, I thought, oh, shit, literally, my chickens are coming home to roost here because there was no movement going on. And I thought, I have a moral obligation to share that with yourself
Starting point is 00:24:18 and with our listeners because it would only be fair. But luckily, just before we started recording today i took a big old dump the levy the levy broke it did indeed it did indeed what dvd box sets is your dad watching at the moment oh i got him for father's day i got amazing yes i remember a hank from um oh god breaking bad breaking bad breaking right one of his favorite. Obviously, every dad's favourite TV show is Breaking Bad because it's about a dad being a bit naughty and becoming a meth enthusiast or a meth creation enthusiast anyway. And he, yeah, Hank Schrader from the TV show
Starting point is 00:25:00 was on one of those websites. Dean Norris. Dean Norris. He could pay like 150 quid and he'll do a Father's Day message. It was really sweet actually because I've not seen my dad for months because of COVID and stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I really think he got a lot out of it. Well, the other thing is, Pete, is that Dean Norris, shout out to Dean, he did an amazing job and you sent it to me and it's brilliant and he really got into it
Starting point is 00:25:23 and I think I understand that like if you're an actor, you know, with the greatest respect to Dean, he's brilliant and he really got into it and i think i understand that like if you're an actor you know with the greatest respect to dean he's been some big stuff and he's an excellent actor in my opinion but he's obviously probably doesn't want to be doing cameos so he could he could have been um he could have been kind of down his luck about it but it was brilliant and i think i can imagine your dad absolutely loving it oh i i made him i put on the family thread and made him play it out while i listened and i could hear like the genuine surprise and happiness in his voice so yeah it's well worth doing i mean not just hank schrader pick someone else i got my dad two shirts from marx and spencer um yeah what about this email pete um from Neil? This is quite a nice little update to one of our other threads
Starting point is 00:26:07 that our friend there didn't mention about Japanese glass. He says, all right, guys. Oh, yes. Big fan of the show. And it rolls on. Not 100% up to date with the pub, but I have an idea as to why the Japanese don't use glass. I read somewhere ages ago that the European usage of glass
Starting point is 00:26:23 was due to the fermentation of grapes and showing off the different colors of wine and therefore social standing the chinese and japanese cultures were more likely to ferment rice giving them the clear colored sake and therefore no need to show off their wealth could be bollocks but i thought i'd mention it anyway cheers neil i genuinely think we could write a book on this. We've got so many different options and opinions about why the Japanese didn't use glass. I don't think
Starting point is 00:26:52 we're anywhere close to figuring out why the Japanese didn't use a lot of glass. Maybe no one knows. Exactly. It could just be one of those things. You know on QI where they had that occasional question which would be it would be like, oh, no one actually knows the answer to this.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And it could be one of those. I mean, I don't know. Maybe we need to find the definitive reason. But so far we've come up short, haven't we? Luke, can I scare you? Please. I've never seen an entire episode of QI ever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Is that worrying? I'm someone, and this is the thing, right? No, this is going to, it's not worrying. No, it's perfectly acceptable. But I'm going to possibly sound a little bit hypocritical because I'm sure many people feel this way about me. And two, perhaps a little bit mean. I don't mean to come across mean.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I think when people put themselves out there and make shows on TV or on the radio or podcast, they're out there to be shot at. I accept that for what we do, and other people should accept it too i think as long as it's reasonable i don't find um alan davis very good and so and he's on every episode magnetic right so it's kind of a little bit annoying after a while i think some of these people kind of like have careers because we remember them from jon have careers because we remember them from jonathan creek or we remember them from back in the day and it reminds us of being young and you know virile so do you like alan davis or not um i'm not a bit did he did he bite a homeless man
Starting point is 00:28:18 i believe that's someone else i think that's the case yeah i mean if that's the mark of a man i would say yeah he's probably not the nicest individual. Wasn't there a fascinating subplot to that? Wasn't he indeed a homeless guy? But he was an informant, wasn't he, to some newspaper journalist. So I believe he was a homeless guy that had been co-opted by some probably News of the World type journalist and been paid to sit outside the Groucho and get stories.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Right, okay. And I think Alan Davis got the arsehole with him for whatever reason. And I believe that is what happened, but I think that was kind of part of the story was that. Ah. But there's loads of people now, Pete, I see. Does that make sense? You know back in the day when I was a lot more outspoken and you guys would constantly try and stop me saying stuff
Starting point is 00:29:01 about other people in the public eye? Do you remember that? Yes, when we rescued your career repeatedly. Do you remember that? Yes. When we rescued your career repeatedly. Can I do that now or not, do you think? What do you mean? As in like? Because there's loads of people I don't like.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And they are getting served. So you're bound to hit a target that everyone else is kind of into. Okay. Yeah. Maybe I won't, but I just don't want to be a dickhead for no reason. But yeah, I'm not really a huge fan of Alan Davis. so that's partly why I don't enjoy QI as much as some other people but I do think it's a brilliant brilliantly brilliantly written show and like a really nicely done thing um I haven't seen much of it since Sandy took over but I like Sandy as
Starting point is 00:29:37 well so I probably would like it again maybe I should revisit well I like that the researchers kind of have got their own thing as well like ui elves or whatever they're called like because they're the people who do all the real work yes exactly right exactly right and and you know there's there's some really interesting stuff one is the um the there was a bit about the richest man to have ever lived which we covered on this show at one point as well it's a marleyan kind of prince another one was like they they found evidence that usain bolt isn't actually the fastest person to have ever lived either because by by using some technique to track um aborigines based on
Starting point is 00:30:13 their footprints and their stride patterns and stuff they worked out there's a load of aborigines who were like back in the day who were just absolutely rapidly quick really quick indigenous people yeah wow yeah that's pretty cool yeah i'm into that let's have a bit of that let's research that if you know any information on that email us in because i can't remember the rest of it well i'm leaving right now to go to the british library to figure out what the hell is going on we should both do that is it open we'll have to socially distance yeah my dad's whenever my dad comes out of London, he always goes to the British Library. And then as soon as, because he always comes down
Starting point is 00:30:48 with a big backpack full of like just papers and nonsense. But he doesn't believe in metal detectors. He doesn't believe in going into anywhere that would require somebody checking what's in his bag. So he always goes in, but then he just gets turned away immediately because he won't let anyone look in his bag. What's in the bag, Dad? What have you you got in the bag also because it's like three in the morning because of his routine probably i came down to london again none of the tubes were working
Starting point is 00:31:13 anyway let's get out of here let's get out of here because we've run out of time we'll be back later in the week for thursday's episode hello at luke and peter.com is the email address to get in touch tell us a bit more about japanese in touch. Tell us a bit more about Japanese and Chinese glass. Tell us a bit more about rapidly fast native Australians. Tell us loads of stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:32 We'd love to hear from you. And we'll be back on Thursday with yet more of this nonsense. Thank you very much. Have a great week. Enjoy the weather. It's supposed to be lovely, but make sure you wear sun cream.
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