The Luke and Pete Show - Dig it
Episode Date: June 22, 2020On today’s episode we’re discussing how Pete's sartorial approach to visiting different countries, and remembering the heady days when emo music was still cool.Elsewhere, have you ever thought wha...t's doing most of the heavy lifting on a really hot or cold day? That's right, thermometers. Shout out to all the hardworking thermometers out there in Siberia, Miami and South Korea.Finally, listen in for a particularly enjoyable story about a man who dug 33 tonnes of clay out from beneath his own house. Don't try this at (or under your own) home!To get involved, send us your thoughts at hello@lukeandpeteshow.com!***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome to the Luke and the Pete show.
It is a Monday.
The sun is shining where I am.
The sun is also shining where Luke Moore is,
but he's wearing a jumper, inexplicably.
Yes, hello, everyone.
Welcome to the Luke and Pete show.
As Pete says, I am the Luke part of the equation.
I'm not wearing a jumper, Peter.
As you well know, before we started recording,
I said, bear with me a second.
I'm just going to take my jumper off.
And the reason for me wearing a jumper is as we compete competitively
for the most boring start to one of these episodes ever,
it's because I live up on a hill and we have the windows open
to get a breeze through, but there's no real sunshine present
in the house, obviously, and the wind rips through
like you wouldn't believe.
So in the morning, it is actually still a little bit chilly,
even though the old thermometer says it's about 25 degrees but pete on that on that note actually um
got a uh text through from my father-in-law uh yesterday shout out the big lc who people
people who listen regularly will know that he's a big fan of the show he sent me a screenshot of
the thermometer in his house in Connecticut, 107.
Now, I might need a bit of help with this one.
The Celsius Fahrenheit has always confused me.
Yeah, so basically that is roughly, I would say,
I'm trying to think, 37.7 is 100, so it's about 41 and a bit.
Jiminy, like, yeah, thermometer is in America,
or certainly that part of America,
certainly work a lot harder than ours.
You don't kind of appreciate how kind of...
Yeah, exactly, Pete.
Why are thermometers paid the same amount in the UK?
They shouldn't be, because they don't do anything.
They shouldn't be a double time, yeah.
They fluctuate between about 12 and about 22.
That's it.
That's it, exactly.
I feel sorry for the thermometers in uh in in that part of america
because like new york for example i went to new york for um what do you call it new year's eve
one time and it was colder than i've ever been in my life and i've been to like oh i don't know
have i been to belarus is that called i don't know but i remember it being minus 15, and I think it was around about minus 10 in New York.
And New York in the summer is unbearably hot.
Like, I don't understand how you – I've said it before,
how the infrastructure manages to deal with the freezing cold
but also the heat as well.
But, yeah, they should be on double time in America, I think.
Yeah, there was a really interesting story about – I saw it yesterday
about how for the first time ever, there's been a temperature of over 100 degrees Fahrenheit recorded in Siberia.
Right, okay.
That's obviously, I think we can all agree, not a good thing.
But the other thing that I found absolutely fascinating about it, to the point where I thought, I'm going to need to reread that is that for perspective it's only ever reached over 100 degrees fahrenheit once in miami's history which i found
absolutely staggering to read apparently well because it's so close to the coast
oh this is a constant breeze and so the temperature technically never goes hardly
ever goes over 100 degrees fahrenheit which i found fascinating because you'd expect it to be way higher than that.
Do you find sort of – I'm sure we've got listeners in Siberia.
I'm sure we've got listeners in parts of Russia, obviously.
I find Siberia – I think there was a game called Siberia back in the day.
I take all of my knowledge from video games of the 90s on the Amiga
and the PC and stuff like that. And rightly so. And rightly so. I take all of my knowledge from video games of the 90s on the Amiga and the PC and stuff like that.
And rightly so.
And rightly so, I agree.
And Siberia always seemed like this kind of like
magical kind of place where woolly mammoths existed
and stuff like that.
And Yakutsk, modern Yakutsk is like this kind of like town
that I'd really like to visit one day.
But there's no point in going
when it's not absolutely snowed in.
But if it's really snowed
in it's really hard to get to so you may as well just visit it in summer i think it's got the
biggest swing in the whole of um in the whole of russia and siberia like it gets really cold and
really um warm in different parts of the earth but yeah that's right i don't know man like
it's it's a magical place this is where they find all the fossils in it yeah i think i should be
probably more specific about what i said because i'm'm sure, I don't know where enough,
the kind of geographic,
sort of,
thing that applies to Siberia specifically.
I should probably be more specific and say that,
there's a town in Siberia,
called Verkoyansk,
I think,
which is technically inside the Arctic Circle,
and that hit 100.4 degrees Fahrenheit,
which is,
whoa, what's going on? You've been taken away you've been arrested no i'm outside of my house of oxford because i've moved the um soho
is very much back to normal and so i've moved back into the back of the kitchen but the problem is
there's helicopters because of um the protest you've got so because you live in grand theft
frolicking in the uh in the back and also, yeah, the police wheeling around.
Right, so let me just wrap up to move on
because we didn't plan, well, we don't plan any of this,
but I didn't necessarily plan to do so much on this.
But Arctic Circle, 100 degrees Fahrenheit,
first time ever.
And then the only time that Miami,
according to a climatologist in Florida, the only time that Miami, according to a climatologist in Florida,
the only time that Miami has ever hit 100 degrees Fahrenheit
was on July 21st, 1942.
Oh, I thought it would have been in the middle of a Mr. Worldwide concert.
Mr. Worldwide, Pitbull, yeah.
Mr. Worldwide, he's always down in Miami, isn't he?
I'm starting to see now why, another reason why people love miami because
clearly it's obviously nice and warm but it doesn't ever get that warm good i'm all about
that that sounds good to me is it a dry heat i the most inhospitable places i've been is
jeju in korea uh during the height of summer where it is just so moist um it's like a kind of like just a little
island and i ate some fried chicken it was very hot um and i ate an ice cream and i was still so
hot i couldn't get a taxi uh and i had i don't i don't use the term breakdown loosely obviously
but i think i had uh a mental episode episode that I couldn't get back
to my air-conditioned Airbnb.
I'd eaten too much hot fried chicken with spicy sauce on it.
My friend couldn't help me with getting a taxi back to the flat.
And I said, Craig, I've had enough.
I can't deal with this anymore.
And he made me go back into, I think think the ice cream parlor for my ice cream
um so there's only two or three times where i thought this is too much um and then jay was
just the heat of jay was just too much for me you say that oh i don't want i don't use the term
breakdown lightly and many people will think that's because you don't want to be insensitive
to people with mental health problems yes but the reality is that you don't use it lightly
because if you did you would probably have to admit to about 15 a day.
I don't want to put them in a diary.
I don't think Miami is a dry heat, no,
because the whole of the southern,
southeastern United States is essentially one giant swamp,
isn't it?
Soggy, yeah.
I doubt it is dry heat.
I bet it's very humid.
I tell you what, if you ever sort of visit like New Orleans
and for the first time I visited New Orleans,
it was obviously on the south,
I thought I'm going to look like a cool British guy
and I'm going to wear a blue linen suit.
And you look good for the first five minutes.
And then you look like you've literally just climbed out of the bayou.
Is that wet?
The bayou is the river, isn't it?
So, yeah.
So, yeah, you just look absolutely sweaty as hell.
Do you plan your kind of sartorial decisions for different places
that far in advance then?
No, but I just, I think whenever it comes to going to a foreign country,
I think it's important as an Englishman to dress as well as possible,
not because I'm like a raging kind of nationalist,
just that a lot of places like in New Orleans,
a lot of like guys who are in bars,
they're always wearing cargo shorts.
And I just can't get with that.
I'd rather look like I'm not from the cargo shots.
You were a big three-quarter length man, weren't you, for a a jot yeah but that that's a look in itself that's a i'm going
to a punk rock show i've not left behind my no fx roots but i think when i'm abroad i like to
have a little linen suit in the back in the back of the cupboard just in case i want to show that
i'm um i'm not of uh you, I've got no need for cargo shorts.
I'm not a man who owns many tools.
No.
Is that fair?
No, I think you've got a lot in your locker, actually.
I just think some of it is a little bit awkward.
But could you wear perhaps top half linen suit,
bottom half cargo shorts?
As long as they were well upholstered and kind of...
So you wear a hat?
Well, like a Panama hat, blue linen suit with waistcoat,
jorts and Etnies skate shoes on the bottom.
I mean, what a...
New found glory on the air, bud.
New found glory.
I'm having it look
I'm in
yeah
we listened to
Newfound Glory
in the car
the other day
Mimi and I
it was lots of fun
which song
I can't remember actually
shall I ask her
yeah
yeah if you would
hang on a sec
I'll ask her
you feel like I can ask her
it could have been
you're always dressed
dressed to kill could have been my friends. It could have been, you're always dressed to kill.
Could have been,
my friends over you.
Could have been,
oh God, what would it have been now?
I don't know a lot of Newfound Glory.
I think the lead singer went out with,
not Ariana Grande.
Who's that young punk lady who did Skater Boy?
My friends over you was the song.
My friends over you. That was my friends over you that was a good
one that one yeah that's a that's a classic newfound track that was like they were the
thinking man's blink 182 i thought i do you know what i that whole scene kind of passed me by
and i live with someone at uni who was into it and i kind of tangentially became exposed to it
and i didn't i didn't i didn't sort of like it or dislike it really i was just like yeah fine
um but um when i heard that song which i'd never heard before i thought to myself you
know what i wouldn't mind listening to that again it's a perfectly decent pop song but no problem
with it and so i'll maybe revisit it at some point oh can i make you a punk playlist like a little
punk rock uh emo fun playlist i think you get a lot out of it you could do can i there's one thing that kind of puts
me off if you don't mind me saying and one is that because i'm friends with you on spotify
in the little bar on the right and so i can see what you're listening to and um i don't like that
much of it the last song i listened to on spotify was royison's I Drove All Night. And I listened to that song quite a lot.
Tears?
What?
With tears in my eyes.
I think some guy was, my mate Ed, he comes up with the most amazing YouTube videos.
And I always forward them on YouTube to you, to be honest.
But he sent me a clip of a very accomplished, I think he was a folk musician.
And he's very funny
in the badinage in between his songs and he he sort of did a bit from i drove all night by
roy alberson and it was uh i drove all night crept in your room to make love to you
is that all right like roy alberson is asking is that all right
as you slept make made love to you is that all right it's just it was
such it was delivered with such deadpan uh brilliance it really really was very very good
it was a um this is fair to say that um it was a different time is doing a lot of heavy lifting in
society at the moment oh mate i mean there's there's a um there's a something corporate song again an emo band um i kissed a drunk girl uh which was
which look emo lads the dominoes are falling left right and center problematic men it didn't stop at
the 70s that's all we're saying all right especially emo ones who thought they deserved
you know they deserve the love of women that...
Yeah, I'm not even getting into it.
Why am I getting into this?
Let's move on, shall we?
Jesus Christ.
Some of the lyrics in emo songs are problematic in 2020.
They were problematic then, they're problematic now.
No one's listening to brand new anymore,
and that's because of reasons, all right?
Pete, can I just say, when you first started that sentence,
even I thought, I don't know where he's going to go with this.
I didn't.
I don't think he can get out of this.
I just want people to know I'm cognizant of the fact
that a lot of emo music is problematic.
At the very least, needy.
Can I talk to you about a problematic chap of a different stripe?
Okay.
And I'm not implying that he's done anything untoward with anyone else
uh and to be honest it wouldn't matter if i did because he's dead but uh there is no suggestion
that he is a problematic individual to other human beings just okay to himself it's a guy
called william little have you heard of him bill little no i don't think i have. So he was a British civil engineer who gained a certain amount of infamy in,
I probably want to say the latter part of the 20th century,
bleeding into the 21st century,
because he left a 20-room big old house in Hackney in the mid-60s,
and he decided, this is great British eccentricism. 20 rooms in Hackney? I know, right? I know. 60s. And he decided this is great British eccentricism.
20 rooms in Hackney.
I know. That's a squat.
Mortimer Road in Hackney.
This is a great example of
British eccentricity.
He said
in the mid 60s he decided he wanted a
wine cellar under his house.
I'm not
getting involved with all the kind of crap i'm
just gonna do it myself and uh he dug out a massive yeah he dug out a massive wine cellar
under his home right having done that he said this is all said in retrospect that he found a real
taste for digging and so for the next 40 years created a network of tunnels on several levels in all directions,
some of them 18 metres in length,
and went as far down as the water table.
One of his tunnels connected with the railway line
at Dalston Lane Tunnel, and he dumped all the clay
he dug up into his garden and all the empty rooms
of his house that he didn't use.
Oh, my God.
So his whole house was just solid like a solid
minecraft house yeah basically the only way people realized is because the neighbors started to
complain because random sinkholes were part started to appear in their gardens and in the
pavements around their houses and then water and power supplies were constantly interrupted
and the local pub said they were a bit worried
their cellar might be collapsing.
I mean, to get a taste, how did nobody know?
I mean, presumably he didn't use, what year was this?
60?
He started then.
It got discovered in 2006, I think.
I mean, that is incredible.
I mean, he would be using electric tools as well.
So, like, you can't blame that on an underground, you know,
if it's happening at weird times of the day,
you can't blame that on an underground, you know,
Dalston train.
No.
I have no information or intel on the tools he used,
so I can't help you on that.
But he was evicted from his house.
And obviously, as a part of that.
He'll get back in.
He'll get back in he'll get back in somehow he was he was um he was evicted and obviously journalists and journalists picked up the story and they
interviewed him and he just said i think this is quite a um it's quite a kind of poignant poignant
quote he said i'm just a man who loves to dig there's a great beauty in inventing things that
serve no purpose um but they guess how many tons of soil and debris they took out
of his house when it was renovated after he moved out 33 tons i mean did did he sort of pack it in
like did he'd have to squeeze the soil and all of the water out of the soil to go to jesus so it's
all been taken over now and um the the been, I mean, presumably for safety reasons, which I kind of understand,
but it's a bit of a shame that the tunnels have been filled completely
with aerated concrete and poor old William Little had to cover the cost
of everything, which was £293,000.
And sadly, sadly, he's passed away now.
Well, in 2007, presumably, how many bedroom house?
Five, six?
Oh, what?
That would be a decent amount of money.
I don't think he would have been shot
of a bob or two.
I mean, whether he'd be able to find it
or not underneath all that soil,
I don't know.
But the problem is, Peter,
I think what happened was,
like I said, he inherited that house, right?
Right.
And so in 2008, he's told he had to pay yeah like i say almost
300 000 pounds but he died in 2010 anyway and in in in 2012 the property was sold as it was i think
for just over a million quid and then it was renovated and now it's um i think it's now an
art studio and some other bits but it's just a fascinating story i i understand that we have to
be sensitive here there may i don't know but there may well have been some kind of mental health
issue at play because it does seem like a very eccentric thing to do but he was i mean from what
i've read he was fairly unrepentant so you know i just enjoyed doing it i liked uh digging digging
tunnels it was a hobby and obviously it got a bit i get it man i really get it like do you fancy it
i presume someone should have bought my copy of mine, is all I'm saying. I bet you, sadly.
Give him a bit...
I mean, it's a little bit like the Miner Willy
versus Jet Set Willy video game,
because obviously Miner Willy was like a...
He was a guy who hung out in mines.
I thought that was called Manic Miner.
Yeah, so his character was called Miner Willy.
Oh, okay, right.
It was very anti- or pro-Thatcher.
I forget what...
I think it was anti-Thatcher back anti or pro thatcher i forget what i
think it was anti thatcher back in the day uh and the whole mining um union and stuff but yeah in
the first game he was a minor manic minor and then he um got i think he got rich and he became a
member of the aristocracy and jet set willie was about him tidying up his massive 16 million room
mansion so he's a modern day minor Willie for me,
but I do wonder whether he was cremated
or they dug a hole for him.
Yeah, you have to be sure.
Basically bury him facing down.
So if he does dig, he just goes further down.
Oh, mate, that's adorable.
It's funny you say that about Jet Set Willie
and Manic Minor because I played both those games as a kid
and that narrative you've just described there
is the first I've heard
of it. It completely passed me by.
Yeah, we just don't see it. It makes perfect sense.
Well,
Thatcher. Thatcher's...
I'm not going to get into that.
Let's
hit a break. Shall we hit a break
and then come back with some emails? Why not?
I'll wait then.
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And we're
back. It's the Luke and Pete Show. It is part two
of your Monday Dose.
Think of us as the Monday penicillin you have to take after the terrible things you've done over the weekend.
Yeah.
Um,
hello,
Luke and Pete show.com.
If you want to get to the show and,
and people have been doing that,
Luke,
people have been doing that.
Don't take penicillin if you're allergic to it.
It feels like a,
like a large number of people are allergic to penicillin.
So just do be careful.
That's what I'll say.
Why would you be allergic to penicillin?
It's like the universal panacea for all ills you.
Hello at lukeandpeach.com to let us know.
I don't know.
I'm not allergic to anything.
If you're allergic to penicillin, let us know.
Yeah.
What about this email from Ian, who says,
Hi, guys.
Love the show.
Just wanted to be a pedantic Irishman and correct your latest episode title.
Insultants of Pings 1991 banger wears me jumper.
The lyric is actually met him eating mushrooms in the People's Park, not public park.
The People's Park is a cork institution where many people, including myself,
misspent their youth smoking illegal drugs.
And where you may be accosted by local drunkards
asking you for a euro for the bus.
The people of Cork are very proud,
and I'm sure if there's another Cork listener out there,
he'll be happy for the correction.
It's a nice tribute to the song Outside the Park 2,
and he's attached a photo
of a little bit of graffiti
or art, whatever we're going to want to call it, with the
Sultans of Ping lyrics.
I am not a sultans
of ping connoisseur i don't know anything about them apart from that song which as ian's already
mentioned came out in 1991 and if memory serves me correctly last week i think i originally
incorrectly attributed it to the mac lads anyway so that shows the level of knowledge i'm at
um apologies for the episode title yeah what can you do what can you do i didn't get involved i mean i should have known that i mean i did play
it every now and again on absolute but uh yeah i only want today though well the norah pete guarantee
uh was a movable face when i was uh at the helm very much a guy i would i would yeah it was a
guideline every now and again.
And especially when we'd be playing songs that would be things like U2's,
is it One?
Was there a song by U2 called One?
And the Kings of Leon's Sex on Fire.
Both of those songs were on the emergency CD.
And if I went to the loo for any length of time and forgot to make the computer play the next song,
it would just have five seconds of silence. The emergency CD would kick in and then we'd be
hearing possibly a repeated song if I'd played Kings of Leon's Sex on Fire earlier in that hour.
So yeah, boring, tedious administrative chat about running a radio station, but it's important to
know who you're dealing with and listening to. Got an email from Jim Crook. Say hello, Jim. Hi there, the pal show. That's exactly how it should go. Over the
course of the last four or five weeks, I've listened to the entire back catalogue from episode
one to catch up to the point at which I started listening last year. I suggested listening to the
show to my friend Harry, and he started from the beginning. So I saw lockdown as the perfect
opportunity to fill in the missing episodes. I thought i'd share some key phrases and themes
that have been stuck in my head in that time what i like about this email is that we do this show
every single week and we don't really sort of think about the themes and the things that we
talk about um per se but the but it's nice to have like um like touchstones that other people
have noticed thermal paste is in there.
He's given us a big list.
Thermal Paste, Julian Assange there,
Succulent Chinese Meal,
Pete's Dad's Bedtime,
Democracy Manifest,
Pete's Sunday Chinese,
Fucking Sphincter.
I don't remember that one.
No.
What was Fucking Sphincter?
Oh, it's Brian Blessed, isn't it?
It's Brian Blessed.
Oh, yes, of course it was.
Yes. Yeah, good old Blessed. Goodness Me, which is my go-to word fucking sphincter now oh it's brian blessed isn't it it's brian blessed oh yes of course it was yes
yeah good old blessed uh goodness me which is my go-to word whenever i'm uh uh stressed out and
doing a live broadcast and uh luke's bullshit story about pete only having three shits in the
entire entirety of uh oh pete by the way i mean if you were if you if you and the listeners would
allow me i started to feel like last few days,
I thought, oh, shit, literally, my chickens are coming home to roost here
because there was no movement going on.
And I thought, I have a moral obligation to share that with yourself
and with our listeners because it would only be fair.
But luckily, just before we started recording today i took a big old dump the levy
the levy broke it did indeed it did indeed what dvd box sets is your dad watching at the moment
oh i got him for father's day i got amazing yes i remember a hank from um oh god breaking bad
breaking bad breaking right one of his favorite. Obviously, every dad's favourite TV show is Breaking Bad
because it's about a dad being a bit naughty
and becoming a meth enthusiast or a meth creation enthusiast anyway.
And he, yeah, Hank Schrader from the TV show
was on one of those websites.
Dean Norris.
Dean Norris.
He could pay like 150 quid
and he'll do a Father's Day message.
It was really sweet actually
because I've not seen my dad for months
because of COVID and stuff.
I really think he got a lot out of it.
Well, the other thing is, Pete,
is that Dean Norris,
shout out to Dean,
he did an amazing job
and you sent it to me
and it's brilliant
and he really got into it
and I think I understand that like if you're an actor, you know, with the greatest respect to Dean, he's brilliant and he really got into it and i think i understand that like if you're
an actor you know with the greatest respect to dean he's been some big stuff and he's an excellent
actor in my opinion but he's obviously probably doesn't want to be doing cameos so he could he
could have been um he could have been kind of down his luck about it but it was brilliant and i think
i can imagine your dad absolutely loving it oh i i made him i put on the family thread and made him play
it out while i listened and i could hear like the genuine surprise and happiness in his voice so
yeah it's well worth doing i mean not just hank schrader pick someone else i got my dad two shirts
from marx and spencer um yeah what about this email pete um from Neil? This is quite a nice little update to one of our other threads
that our friend there didn't mention about Japanese glass.
He says, all right, guys.
Oh, yes.
Big fan of the show.
And it rolls on.
Not 100% up to date with the pub,
but I have an idea as to why the Japanese don't use glass.
I read somewhere ages ago that the European usage of glass
was due to the fermentation of
grapes and showing off the different colors of wine and therefore social standing the chinese
and japanese cultures were more likely to ferment rice giving them the clear colored sake and
therefore no need to show off their wealth could be bollocks but i thought i'd mention it anyway
cheers neil i genuinely think we could write a book on this. We've got so many different options
and opinions
about why
the Japanese didn't use glass. I don't think
we're anywhere close to figuring out why
the Japanese didn't
use a lot of glass. Maybe no one knows.
Exactly. It could just be one of those things.
You know on QI where they had that
occasional question which would be
it would be like,
oh, no one actually knows the answer to this.
And it could be one of those.
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe we need to find the definitive reason.
But so far we've come up short, haven't we?
Luke, can I scare you?
Please.
I've never seen an entire episode of QI ever.
Yeah.
Is that worrying?
I'm someone, and this is the thing, right?
No, this is going to, it's not worrying.
No, it's perfectly acceptable.
But I'm going to possibly sound a little bit hypocritical
because I'm sure many people feel this way about me.
And two, perhaps a little bit mean.
I don't mean to come across mean.
I think when people put themselves out there and make shows on TV
or on the radio or podcast, they're out there to be shot at.
I accept that for what we do, and other people should accept it too i think as long as it's reasonable
i don't find um alan davis very good and so and he's on every episode magnetic right so it's kind
of a little bit annoying after a while i think some of these people kind of like have careers
because we remember them from jon have careers because we remember them from
jonathan creek or we remember them from back in the day and it reminds us of being young and
you know virile so do you like alan davis or not um i'm not a bit did he did he bite a homeless man
i believe that's someone else i think that's the case yeah i mean if that's the mark of a man i
would say yeah he's probably not the nicest individual.
Wasn't there a fascinating subplot to that?
Wasn't he indeed a homeless guy?
But he was an informant, wasn't he, to some newspaper journalist.
So I believe he was a homeless guy that had been co-opted
by some probably News of the World type journalist
and been paid to sit outside the Groucho and get stories.
Right, okay.
And I think Alan Davis got the arsehole with him for whatever reason.
And I believe that is what happened,
but I think that was kind of part of the story was that.
Ah.
But there's loads of people now, Pete, I see. Does that make sense?
You know back in the day when I was a lot more outspoken
and you guys would constantly try and stop me saying stuff
about other people in the public eye?
Do you remember that?
Yes, when we rescued your career repeatedly. Do you remember that? Yes.
When we rescued your career repeatedly.
Can I do that now or not, do you think?
What do you mean?
As in like?
Because there's loads of people I don't like.
And they are getting served.
So you're bound to hit a target that everyone else is kind of into.
Okay.
Yeah.
Maybe I won't, but I just don't want to be a dickhead for no reason.
But yeah, I'm not really a huge fan of Alan Davis. so that's partly why I don't enjoy QI as much as
some other people but I do think it's a brilliant brilliantly brilliantly written show and like a
really nicely done thing um I haven't seen much of it since Sandy took over but I like Sandy as
well so I probably would like it again maybe I should revisit well I like that the researchers
kind of have got their own thing as well like ui elves or
whatever they're called like because they're the people who do all the real work yes exactly right
exactly right and and you know there's there's some really interesting stuff one is the um
the there was a bit about the richest man to have ever lived which we covered on this show at one
point as well it's a marleyan kind of prince another one was like they they found evidence
that usain bolt isn't actually the fastest person
to have ever lived either because by by using some technique to track um aborigines based on
their footprints and their stride patterns and stuff they worked out there's a load of
aborigines who were like back in the day who were just absolutely rapidly quick really quick
indigenous people yeah wow yeah that's pretty cool yeah i'm into that let's
have a bit of that let's research that if you know any information on that email us in because i can't
remember the rest of it well i'm leaving right now to go to the british library to figure out
what the hell is going on we should both do that is it open we'll have to socially distance
yeah my dad's whenever my dad comes out of London, he always goes to the British Library.
And then as soon as, because he always comes down
with a big backpack full of like just papers and nonsense.
But he doesn't believe in metal detectors.
He doesn't believe in going into anywhere that would require
somebody checking what's in his bag.
So he always goes in, but then he just gets turned away
immediately because he won't let anyone look in his bag.
What's in the bag, Dad? What have you you got in the bag also because it's like three in
the morning because of his routine probably i came down to london again none of the tubes were working
anyway let's get out of here let's get out of here because we've run out of time we'll be back
later in the week for thursday's episode hello at luke and peter.com is the email address to get
in touch tell us a bit more about japanese in touch. Tell us a bit more about Japanese
and Chinese glass.
Tell us a bit more
about rapidly fast
native Australians.
Tell us loads of stuff.
We'd love to hear from you.
And we'll be back on Thursday
with yet more of this nonsense.
Thank you very much.
Have a great week.
Enjoy the weather.
It's supposed to be lovely,
but make sure you wear sun cream.
Look after your thermometers.
Yeah.
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