The Luke and Pete Show - Kangaroo Boy
Episode Date: May 27, 2024Pete is talking about Ian Wright's ankle, again, and Luke tells Donny about the new show his mum is obsessed with.Plus, we have serious questions. Does anyone want to buy some garden furniture from Lu...ke? Are head transplants morally wrong? And did your parents know (or better still, did they care) when you were watching TV after lights out?Want to get in touch with the show? Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow. Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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It's the Luke of Beach
I'm Pete Donaldson
on the previous show
we did batteries
on the previous show
we had a right old go
at some professional radio stations
and we also spoke about
going to parties
and enjoying yourselves
with one year olds
that's what we do
on the Luke of Beach show
and we kind of
that's what we kind of did
for Crying Out Loud.
Yeah, and it's great to be back.
I hope you had a nice weekend, everyone.
Summer's on its way, surely.
It is.
We've got a European Championships
to look forward to.
The football season's behind us.
Just cancel me Now TV subscription.
Not going to need that
for a little while.
Sorry, if we're being sponsored by them,
I've definitely continued
the Now TV subscription.
I don't know if you've paid
any attention to the economy
over the last six months
around podcasting,
but there's no.
Yes.
People are listening straight.
It's never been a better time
to listen to podcasts
because nobody's interrupting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The only adverts
are from people going,
hey, you should advertise on this.
Yeah.
Yeah. Do you still do you still get do you still get like The only adverts are from people going, hey, you should advertise on this. Yeah, let's do it.
Do you still get a little bit of excitement
for a big summer tournament, Peter?
Yeah, I do.
I think it reminds me of good times.
As an adult, it doesn't remind me so much
as good times when I was a kid
because England were frequently atrocious,
but it reminds me of watching the final
of the Euros
where Luke Shaw
scored his opener
against Italy
and it gets me
going
that we could see
those times again
so it gets you
nostalgic for three years
yeah exactly
which is like
a blink of an eye
for us at our age
are you going to go
you're going to come
to the England watch long
that we're doing
with the Red Bull
I am yeah
I really enjoyed it last time.
It was fucking brilliant last time, wasn't it?
It was so much fun.
And there were so many people
and the venue was a bit of a...
It had a sort of dipped screen
and it was so packed out
that I couldn't even see the screen
because I'm very small.
But this time we've got a bigger and better venue
so I can't wait to get involved.
I'll put you on my shoulders if you want.
Please do.
Or in your belly like Krang yeah that'd be nice i wonder if you could surgically
make a hole for a laugh in someone's body you probably could couldn't you like if you avoided
the spine and just went in the back um and and sort of part made a little kind of like tunnel
that you shove your head through it do you know
what i mean yeah i do um i remember what this is reminding me of is that when i used to produce
or exec produce um eureka with rick and michael they did i don't think we did the episode at the
end but we did a lot of research around it and did some kind of pioneering,
there was some research on some pioneering surgeons
who were going to try and do a head transplant.
Okay, yeah.
But isn't it like,
it's always like the slightly eccentric ones
that really have a go at this sort of thing.
Well, so, yeah, there was a situation,
I think six or seven years ago,
where there was a pioneer, mean you call him pioneering
maybe a mental I don't know surgeon I mean technically it's not a head transplant it's a
full body transplant I suppose yeah um pioneering some might say scalpelineering I think he was
Italian this yeah but he had found a guy who had sadly a really limited life through disability.
He was basically paralyzed from the head down.
He was like, look, this is quite bleak,
but he was basically saying, look, I don't mind if I die.
I have a much quality of life, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll give it a go because I've got no quality of life whatsoever.
And they were talking about it,
but I think some kind of ethics commission stopped it happening.
Yeah, I mean, I think those safety nets,
you're so happy when they step in, don't you?
Because you're like...
Yeah, but I mean, to answer your question,
could we transplant maybe your stomach
into my stomach for a day
so I can feel what it's like
to have to house bottles of Gaviscon
every couple of hours?
And then you could perhaps get a bit of me
where you get to know what it's like to be hunched over
and really uncomfortable with knees and back
because you're so tall.
I think it would teach us quite a lot about each other.
My knees and back hurt and I'm not so tall,
if I cried out loud.
Yeah.
Yeah, true.
I've got a real problem with my knees.
I'm actually going to go see a specialist.
Right.
It's annoying.
It's a tall man's crime.
I wasn't able to enjoy my double pivot with tim key you know disappointed i mean to be fair like i played
yesterday and i played 11s on sunday and i played um sevens yesterday and i got on the field and my
just ankle just an agony and i'm like well this isn't this must be what how like ian wright feels with his
fused ankle you're always talking about ian wright yeah because he's a really good example of like a
man who is unbelievably talented football and then watching him try and kick a um a bit of paper into
a bin once and he's like i can't rotate my ankle because it's fused everything's just fused together
and it's just like wow like life comes at you fast
if you're
if you use
you know
if you do that all the time
you put so much strain
on your joints
it's like Chris Kirkland
the ex-Liverpool goalkeeper
I interviewed
and he was saying that like
because he actually recently
fairly recently
came out and said
he had an addiction
to prescription painkillers
because he had so many injuries
and he was so much pain
at the time
I bet
it kind of
it disappeared down
the rabbit hole
but yeah not ideal I'm hoping that the old knees will sort themselves time. I bet. He kind of, he disappeared down the rabbit hole. But yeah,
not ideal.
I'm hoping that the old knees
will sort themselves out.
Maybe I just need some kind of like
intervention or something.
But it's not good
because I really wanted
to get back into running
since I lost all this weight
but it's not really going to happen.
I've only done about three runs
so far.
Can you not just do
some brisk walking?
Or maybe get one of those,
you can have the,
I've got one of those
little elliptical things
I've been sticking that
on first at Marketplace
yeah I've done that
down the gym
quite a few times
by the way
do you want to buy
a load of garden furniture
well we've got loads
we've got some here
we've got loads of
garden furniture
and it's just rotting
because of the terrible weather
yeah we've got loads
of garden furniture
that I want to get rid of
and I wonder
do you want it
we've got enough to be honest that we need to get rid of and I wonder if you want it we've got enough to be honest
would you like some garden furniture
and you live within
a manageable distance from South London
get in touch on all the social media
I will sell you
some good garden furniture at a very competitive price
there's a man who rings me up
every single Sunday morning
telling me that he's going to come round my house
to pick up something I was selling on First Up Marketplace.
And I'm never in.
And he keeps ringing.
And I said, right, this week, 1pm, I'll be there.
Come and get it, baby.
And he so far, he just ignored me that week.
He did it four times in a row
and then the fifth time
he didn't
he didn't bloody do it
I'm furious
how much were you selling it for?
it was like 100 quid
but like
what was the item?
but
it was like a
a bit out of a
a video game
sort of arcade cabinet thing
but
another thing I was selling on eBay
was like a
a relay box for out of a Jaguar X, the one that the car get rid of.
And I bought it for something like 150 quid.
And so I sold it on eBay to someone else because I didn't fit it in the end.
And then they said, it's not working.
I can't get it to work.
I said, all right, I'll give you a refund.
You got to send it back. And they never sent it back. So I gave them a refund and they didn't send it back. working, I can't get it to work. I said, all right, I'll give you a refund. You've got to send it back.
And they never sent it back.
So I gave them a refund and they didn't send it back.
What am I?
Amazon?
Have you just only discovered internet scammers now?
Yeah, but it just seems like a weird scam.
You've got to send it back, man.
You've got to send it back.
Yeah, then say the refund will be processed
when I receive the item.
Yeah, I know.
That's my own fault, really.
You're an idiot.
Yeah, I am an idiot.
Speaking of idiots,
I went through a very, very confusing,
long conversation over a period of weeks
with my mother recently.
And I'll tell you why.
Because she called me up about three weeks ago,
maybe four weeks ago now,
saying, just catching up,
yeah, how you doing, fine, brilliant, all good.
I said, what have you been up to?
She said, oh, I've been watching this really good show on Netflix.
I said, all right.
What's it called?
She goes, oh, Kangaroo Boy.
I said, okay.
Right.
What's it about?
And she told me what it was about.
I said, okay okay it sounds pretty interesting
actually
I'll look it up
looked it up
on Netflix
couldn't find it
so week passes
or whatever
I speak to her again
have you started
watching that kangaroo boy yet
no I can't find it
it's definitely on Netflix
yeah
I was thinking
she doesn't necessarily
know the difference
between the different
streaming platforms
it's probably on Amazon Prime
or something
looked it on Amazon Prime
couldn't find it looked it Prime, couldn't find it.
Looked at it on Sky,
couldn't find it.
She asked me a few more times.
I said, look,
I haven't got around to watching it
because I can't find it.
I don't watch streaming services on.
Forget it.
Right?
And I was at my nephew's birthday
the weekend just gone
and we sat around the garden.
My mum's there.
We're talking about it.
Right?
Trans spiders. She's fucking talking about it, right? Trans spiders?
She's fucking talking about baby reindeer.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, yes.
Lovely.
But for some reason,
her mind misremembered the title of it,
and she kept calling it Kangaroo Boy.
Kangaroo Boy? And I said to my sister...
Not even baby kangaroo?
Kangaroo Boy?
No, I heard her in the kitchen
mention it to my sister. I went straight in there. Iaroo boy. No, I heard her in the kitchen mention it to my sister.
I went straight in there.
I said,
are you talking about
a kangaroo boy show again?
She said,
yeah.
My sister was like,
well,
I've never heard of it either.
My sister went,
what's it about?
My mum told her
and then my sister went,
oh yeah,
it's fucking baby reindeer.
I love that.
Got a lot of time for that.
So I started watching that yesterday.
Oh yeah.
And I quite liked it.
I watched the first couple of episodes. I quite liked it. I've seen there's a lot of controversy around it, but I yesterday oh yeah and um i quite liked it i watched
the first couple of episodes i quite liked it i've seen there's a lot of controversy around it but i
haven't read it through all of the stand-up bits because you like you won't watch it i won't watch
that muck well jim campbell knows him yeah jim campbell doesn't know him yeah i believe yeah
he's a stand-up guy in the in real life yes yeah yeah and have you watched it i've watched it yeah
i thought it was very good um beautiful okay Okay, because Holly in the office was saying
that she thought it was all right, but not that good.
And then some people said they thought it was good.
I quite like it.
I'm two episodes in.
I find it quite, yeah, quite interesting.
Yeah, I mean, I think there's a character,
I don't think you will have run into yet,
but there's a character from The Office UK.
Don't Game of Thrones me.
Don't Game of Thrones on you.
There's the guy
who comes in
and I think
takes
does like an interview
I think
about
of David Brent
he's the ginger haired guy
who does the interview
right
with his partner
oh yeah yeah
I know him
Cooper and Webb
I think he's
he's in it
later on
and he looks completely different
and it's a really assured performance from him um playing a horrible role so yeah good stuff good
you you liked it though yeah i enjoyed it i thought it was um um and there's a controversy
peter been around the fact that he's made it up or something or No, I think the controversy is that
it's very clear who the
lady is
because you can, basically
because they've used the same tweets and stuff and she's
been located and obviously she was on
Piers Morgan. Say again?
But has she done it or not? Are you
doing the Game of Thrones yet?
Oh, okay, fine. But what I'm saying is
okay, you don't answer that yet. I'll finish it. Just watch it and get back to you. but what i'm saying is okay you don't answer that yet right um just watch it i'll finish it but what i'm saying is you know if she's done it then it's not
that no no exactly no it's i i'm very comfortable with that point and i think we spoke about
stalking before and it's um and it's a horrific thing to uh to deal with. However, incapacitated mentally,
the person who is doing the stalking is,
it doesn't make the effects of it any less upsetting
to the people who are experiencing it.
By the way, I just remembered that I sold a TV
to one of our Rambo listeners once.
Did you? How does that work? What?
I think I just put it on Twitter.
Right. You said, do you want a TV?
100 quid. We're getting a new TV. Do you do you want a tv 100 quid we'll get a new
tv do you want the old 100 right some guy came around very nice man came into the house picked
it up took it away it's one of those big old-fashioned big backed ones which i bloody
love ones yeah you probably make a bit more money out of it these days as discussed but well it was
it was about 15 years ago so there's not really much to do about that now. But I love the aesthetic of a big-backed telly.
Yeah, yeah.
I like how hot they get.
And I like that
when you turn them on,
it would take a little while
for the tube to warm up.
Very dangerous tubes.
People these days
wouldn't know
the subterfuge needed to...
So basically,
when I was a kid,
obviously I had a bedtime,
and there was a ladder TV in my room, a little small one, one because i told you before my dad used to work at electronics companies and
nick all the stuff from there and so i had a little portable telly old-fashioned one with
like a white aerial and um bunny ears yeah you could flip the um front bit down and use a little
orange to adjust the thing to just stick yeah stick to adjust the kind
of clarity of the picture and stuff yeah but when you turned on it went like that yeah like that so
after i was supposed to go to bed you know so i've been told i've got to go to bed but i'm desperate
to watch an episode of red dwarf on bbc2 at 9 30 yeah i'd used to to fire up the phosphor
blanket over
the telly
to muffle
the sound
do a really
loud cough
and a fake sneeze
while hitting
the TV thing
crucially
it didn't make
a noise
when you turned
it off
so when you
heard someone
come in
I would use
a snooker cue
to turn it off
again from the bed
that's risky
isn't it
the tension
of like wobbling a snooker cue from the other that's risky isn't it the tension the tension
the tension of like
wobbling a
wobbling a snooker cue
from the other side
of the room
wow
it wasn't a very big room
I grew up in like
a two up two down
terraced house
so it wasn't a very big room
I think I probably knew
but it was
it was
it was a risk
but I was a risk taker
at that age
do you not think that like
when we used to do this
and mainly like
you know
watching Eurotrash late at night are we watching anything that you weren't supposed to do this and mainly like you know watching euro trash
later night whatever are we watching anything that you weren't supposed to be watching euro
trash was a classic great shout the band season on uh channel four what's that band when when
they were just short films that were banned um and uh artsy films that were banned betty blue and
um the realms of the senses and all that wank um but they would
Red Shoe Diaries Red Shoe Diaries the different different vibe less artsy uh more less artsy
more Duchovny um they would have the tits and they would have um you'd be like watching something
like late at night that that you should be asleep you shouldn't be watching tv you should be asleep
etc etc do you think you put yourself in the shoes
of your parents,
do you think they gave
a flying fuck?
Like,
I don't fucking care.
As long as I get my time
watching my telly,
I couldn't give a shit
what he's up to.
They didn't care
and I think that might be
why I failed all my A-levels.
Good point, yeah.
So you've got to think of it this way, though.
Everyone was a lot more naive than they are now.
My parents were very young.
So when I was about 12, my parents were only 35.
Right, okay.
I mean, they're young parents, really.
Really young, yeah.
But with young parents,
you're probably much more likely to get earnestness
and that kind of stuff.
I think my parents were fairly strict. you're probably much more likely to get earnestness and kind of that kind of stuff where you like yeah
i think my parents were fairly strict but my mum always says that i was a really good kid but i don't actually remember being quite a good kid i i maybe i just didn't get caught as much and she
doesn't know but um i used to jump out my bedroom window and go and do stuff i used to like i say
watch tv creek no i did because i used because I used to live so my bedroom was above
the kitchen extension
right
so the bedroom window
which was quite big
I used to jump out
particularly in the summer
I would jump out of that
onto the extension
down the fence
into the back garden
and then out the gate
and there's a back alleyway
around the back of the house
how exciting
all the time
what did you get up to then
what did you sort of leave to do?
Not smoking.
Just having a tab.
Gagging for a tab.
The older boys who lived down the street would be out there.
Yeah.
Kicking the ball around or...
Wouldn't it be really obvious if you were kicking a ball around
down the end of the road?
No, because the kids were doing it anyway.
Right, okay.
But there's no way...
So basically the front rooms at the front of the house,
there's no way they'd know.
Right, you were kicking them all around.
There's an outside chance
they would come in.
I mean, really though,
if they're coming upstairs
to go to the toilet
and going back downstairs
when they're watching the film
or watching the game or something,
there's no real reason to go in my room.
They wouldn't do that.
Trust me, the layout was as such
that I couldn't have been seen.
Yeah.
I didn't do it every night or whatever, but occasionally there was stuff that I didn't have been seen yeah i didn't do every night or
whatever but occasionally there was stuff that i didn't want to miss out on particularly if i
got grounded because i used to get grounded sometimes um probably probably for doing that
but good kid yeah but i used to i used to do do i reckon they cared my dad probably didn't care
no my mom probably did care more how about your parents? Dad couldn't give a flying shit.
My mum...
Was your dad on this routine back then
of getting up at one in the morning or...?
Well, he was on shift work when he...
I get the sense that my mum and dad...
I mean, I definitely get that from my mum and dad.
I just want silence and I just want quiet
and I just want decorum in my home.
Unbelievably.
I'm actually not a loud person.
I find slam doors arrogant.
I like a bit of peace and bloody quiet.
Yeah, I'd agree you're a pretty quiet person.
Off mic, yeah, you're a pretty quiet,
kind of shy person, I would say.
Yeah.
Much like myself.
Yeah.
Shall we take a short break let's have a break
because when we come back
I've got an email
about Bear Grylls
and we forgot to talk about
your microwave steaks
on Thursday
so we should probably do that
oh yes please
oh dear
I've just
just seen an email
that's come in
with a picture of Robert Carlyle
on it
that's a shame
it is the Luke and Pete show
if you want to get in touch
with the show
hello Luke and Pete show is the way want to get in touch with the show.
Hello, Luke and Pete show is the way to do it.
We're on Twitter, we're on TikTok,
all kinds of places, to be honest.
But, Lukey Moo, you want to do an email about Bear Grylls?
Yeah, I don't really want to do the email about you looking like Hitler.
I mean, it just feels like it's...
No, I mean, I was just surprised to just see a man...
I mean, Robert Carlyle playing Hitler.
It's astonishing.
Wow.
2003, apparently. He does look like him. I mean, he wouldlyle playing Hitler. It's astonishing. Wow. 2003, apparently.
He does look like him.
I mean, he would have been right in his pomp,
wouldn't he, old Carlyle?
When was he trained?
In 1997?
I get the sense that 2003,
Robert Carlyle could not be hotter.
And he's got a little moustache
and I don't even want to know
what his German accent's like.
The definitive portrayal of Hitler is Bruno Gantz in Downfall, isn't it?
Yeah, which is just because of the meme, isn't it?
No, but it's an amazing performance, though.
I mean, did he win an Oscar for that?
That was before memes even existed.
I don't know.
I get the sense that the international kind of film
wasn't quite as well respected back then.
Oh, he's nominated. He's Oscar nominated.
It's 2004. He's dead, actually, Bruno Gans.
That's sad. He's Swiss, anyway,
not German. In a bunker?
I don't know. I don't know.
I don't think so, no.
He died...
Oh, sadly, he died from cancer.
There you go.
But anyway, I told you, didn't I?
I filmed The Zone of Interest. Not sure. I told you about't I didn't I film The Zone of Interest
not sure
I told you about it
didn't I
right okay
it's the film about
the Hess family
on the side of
oh yes
living next to the
yes
I was reading about that
and it took some
convincing for the two
actors
the German actors
to play Rudolf Hess
and his wife
because they both
I think it's a bit of a thing
with German actors
they both said
we're never playing Nazis
I mean it's just
fucking spellbound
we're not doing it
and it took them ages
to convince them
but anyway
yeah so I don't
I'm not doing
an email about
Peter looking like
Robert Carlyle
looking like Hitler
it's just not
it's just not for me
anyway
too many steps
so a while back
we talked about Bear Grylls
we talked about the Irylls. We talked about
the
perhaps the lack of reality
of some of the stuff he did in his TV shows.
Do you think that's why he's not doing TV shows now?
What do you mean? As in like
I asked
that question just as you drank.
It's fake you mean? Well I mean
I don't know. I just think he's probably
he probably doesn't get quite as many offers
because we were all
Bear Grylls'd out
for quite a while
weren't we?
I thought he kind of
sashayed into that
kind of
taking celebrities out
for a walk
in the wilderness
that was kind of
his thing for a long time
wasn't it?
Did he do a Barack Obama?
Oh okay nice
like it
Yeah
anyway so Darby's
been in touch
he said hello to you Darby
he says hi Luke and Pete
we're catching up
with old episodes just listen to the one where you talk about the episode where
bear grill supposedly captures and breaks a wild horse to ride back to civilization
right now my brother is a horse rancher oh his main occupation is raising and training horses
so i decided to ask him about this he doesn't use email so i'm summarizing his feedback for him
i like that i love that there's people out there who are horse ranchers who don't use email good
that's a good thing um his brother says um i guess i guess darby showed him the footage on youtube of
it happening which i watched as well actually before i did the show today and um i got this um
i feel like fairly um confident that this is this has been confirmed by other sources as well.
Darby's brother says,
That's really disappointing.
That was not a wild horse.
It was not even a domesticated horse that he happened to find.
The only way Bear didn't die while trying to wrangle that horse
was that it was a domesticated horse that was planted and trained not to kill him.
Makes me question everything else he's done, to be honest.
Was he putting on the neck wrong
was he kind of like
it sounds like
even a domesticated horse
would kick him in the head
yeah I watched a video
which said the same
where it said that you know
this guy was kind of
taken through it
and it said
yeah this is like a
docile domesticated horse
who's trained to be
working with TV people
and so
you know you get horses
in like London
who
like police horses
who don't react
to loud bangs
and that kind of stuff
I guess it's one of those
which by the way
I know TV isn't real
and we always say that
and people listen to this
should remember that
TV is TV
and it's entertainment
and that's the point
but that is a bit
of a fucking piss take that
massively
and I think
if they're going to
start doing that
give us a bit
of a love interest
have a sexy lady
come out the forest
a sexy lizard lady
yeah
a nymph
get me a nymph
for crying out loud
yeah
would you be
imagine that
imagine if the whole
show of
man versus wild
was just normal
just normal
the final scene
is bear
taming that horse
and the whole thing
just turns into avatar
yeah
exactly yeah everyone turns blue fantastic I've got a lot of time for that is Baird taming that horse and the whole thing just turns into Avatar. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, everyone turns blue.
Fantastic.
I would have got a lot of time for that.
Right, we've got a message from...
Joey.
It's the next one off the rank,
after the Hitler one.
Hello to both of you.
Long time listener, first time emailer
to the Luke and Pete show.
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If flu can pee by your side. My favourite part is Luke Moore brings the knowledge, no doubt,
while Pete Donaldson's all about.
Luke, do you think that... You are all kind of all about, aren't you?
I am all about, yeah.
I mean, it is atrocious.
All of this stuff is atrocious.
I mean, it's incredible what they've managed to do
and it's incredibly depressing, etc.
But do you think that, like,
could you ever see a place for AI in music?
Well, what I liked about that song
is that it does sound a bit like Carly Rae Jepsen,
which is frightening.
Like, it does sound...
The thing that I find, someone of my generation, I think,
would find very difficult to get their head around
is the idea that, like, there's nothing behind it.
Like, it's just just it's all generated
completely like randomly right or we'll just run it from like software basically yeah and it does
make it um philosophically difficult for me i don't really like thinking about it much
and i understand that you know in recorded music for example if you've seen people using like
auto-tune or not even the
kind of t-pain auto-tune stuff which is really obvious but like a lot of recording techniques
in pop music now if you actually watch how it's quote unquote produced they're able to like
physically remove the tops and the bottoms of the note so that it doesn't sound off tune
like the modulation the singer's voice can be changed. That's been happening for years.
And that is really probably AI-fueled.
Like that is a tool that does it automatically, right?
But is it kind of being trained on other pieces of music?
Now, bearing in mind that record companies aren't backwards
at coming forwards when it comes to maximising
as much income as possible
and not necessarily passing it on to the artists,
but certainly maximising any use of samples,
any use of copying and stuff.
And they are willing to put a bit of money behind
pursuing legal avenues.
Now, these AI models have all been trained
on commercially available music.
They may say that they haven't been,
but they clearly have.
Or they wouldn't sound like this. they wouldn't sound like these smeary affected
approximations of something on in the charts so like why aren't record
companies saying right let me see your models who is what music have you you I
want you to take our music out of the model unless you're willing to pay for
it I think some record companies
have done that
Nick Cave did a really
interesting thing on it
he was asked about it
in one of his talk things
that he does
and he said that
you have to understand
that if you want to treat this
I'm probably paraphrasing
because it's ages ago
when he said it
but I don't want to put
words in his mouth
but the general crux
that I got from it
was that if you want to
call this a
new art form a generated new art form that is completely separate from what we understand as
human beings to be music fine but this cannot exist on the same plane as music because it's
not about a human being's expression which is basically what music is and that's obviously
quite high-minded but really it tells you another thing,
which is that so much of pop music
is kind of cookie cutter
and is kind of not dissimilar to this.
I heard an Oasis one quite recently.
I think we might have talked about it on here a while back,
which it did sound a bit,
the frightening thing about it
was it sounded a bit like what Oasis would be doing
if they reformed now.
Yeah.
I attribute to classic Oasis softened, really.
And I do think people need to get a handle on that because it can't be seen as the same art form or discipline as music in my view.
And I think what we'll probably end up seeing is a reaction to it where people do what Neil Young was doing in the mid 70s,
which was basically just plugging themselves into a desk
and just putting it out
and if you listen
to kind of
classic Neil Young
records now
all the
imperfections
and the modulations
and the mistakes
they're just
they're still in there
because he didn't
like to muck about
with that
and it wasn't
the dumb thing
to muck about
with that
he just plugged
straight into the
reel to reel
straight from the desk
and it was done
and there would be no post really and so that would that would be And it wasn't the dumb thing to muck about with that. He just plugged straight into the reel-to-reel, straight from the desk, and it was done.
And there would be no post, really.
And so that would be what people start to crave after too much of this AI stuff.
I also would like to point out as well
that this song that our mate Joey's generated,
I'm not sure if we are Luke and Pete
always on the go podcast heroes putting on a show.
No.
I think we do share stories with hilarity.
I do bring the knowledge, no doubt.
And the last room banter does always flow.
But I wouldn't necessarily say that you need to grab a coffee to enjoy it.
So it's not even that accurate.
No.
And there's not even any mentions of like penis jokes and bums and stuff,
which is
really it's not to be quite frank yeah exactly cornerstone of our river that ai that ai model
isn't even listening for crying out loud no uh let's get out of peter there is i didn't do
microwave steaks again which is annoying me but we will do it next time all right we'll do it next
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