The Luke and Pete Show - Plasma profits

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

Today, the guys tackle the moral dilemma of a man who saved 2.4 million babies with his blood donations — should he have charged for his life-saving plasma? Speaking of blood, Luke discusses the results of his recent at-home blood test, which, much to his delight, reveals an above-average testosterone level.Plus, the lads dive into the logistics of In the Night Garden Live after Pete boasts about his recent ticket purchase.Email us at [e-mail] or you can get in touch on X, Threads or Instagram if character-restricted messaging takes your fancy.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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That's what I'm going to be doing And so how about where is what's the what's the venue and how would that manifest itself? I don't know. I think from the promotional video they float that weird little ninky nunk green thing over the... First of all, that's the Pinky Ponk. Sorry, you've embarrassed yourself there. It all sounds like slurs, they really do. Everything that that old man sort of sings, Iggle Piggle, everything just sounds like

a big fucking slur. That's Derek Jacobi, have a bit of respect. Derek Jacobi, the late Derek Jacobi, if he's not, he probably is on his way. Um, but yeah, he uh, yeah, he just always sounds like he's just, he's about to do a slur. Um, it really keeps me on the edge to be honest. It's not relaxing for me. So is it going to be, the reason I'm asking this is because as anyone who's seen in the Nightgarden knows, all the characters are very different sizes. Yes.

So how are they going to handle like, Eagle Pigle talking to the Ponty Pines or Macapacka washing Upsy Daisy's face or something? How's that going to work? Well because I've noticed that, so the ones, the little one that soaps everyone's faces, looks like a little doughnut. That's my son's favourite. Right. They're in a costume, it's all done on green screen when they actually hang out with each other, is that right? Because one of them's very small. It's a combination I think of CGI and... Yeah, one of them's very

small and one of them's quite big. Needless. If I was in the production team I'd be like that was needless. This character being smaller than the others gives nothing. Isn't it supposed to teach kids about size? Because the pontipines are very tiny. Oh the pontipines are tiny, but I mean they're clearly animated. Are they going to be there though? I don't know maybe they'll be running around our feet at the theatre. We haven't even talked about the Harhoos yet. Who are the Harhoos?

They're the big inflatable monsters. The big inflatable thing? Yeah they're horrible. Don't like them at all. All the stupid tweeting birds. We all have the titifers come on. We all have a dancer with Macapacca in the family when we're in the night garden

on. So do you think you'd take your daughter? Or... Yeah, I think there's a very good chance. Wasn't your son in the venue? Was it in town? It's in my town, Southend, yeah, so I'm going to go down. Is it official? Or is it like a knockoff thing that you get on the back of an ice cream van? Well, you get a knockoff Miss Rachel, which I found quite interesting.

I've never really seen Miss Rachel. I don't know who she was till you mentioned her. Yeah she's a woman who has a lot of baristas for friends, like her whole kind of friendship group who sort of join along with her. I think her partner is like some kind of theatre director and he's frightening, I find him quite chilling I don't know why. But him and her, they do like kind of, yeah, just basically usual kind of like kids songs. And yeah, she's just, I think she became very popular over lockdown. And she, you know, now you see her on like

The Wiggles and you see her on Sesame Street and stuff. But she's very, very popular, but her friends annoy me a little bit because they all look like New York hipsters, like proper barista, like arm tattoos. You know, they could probably make you a crack and flat white, but do I want to see them sing? No, I don't.

No, I don't know. I find them charms. My son's particularly, you're completely unaware about what YouTube is really. Right, okay. He wouldn't... I guess she is on YouTube. I think Netflix bought her out and judged up her production values a little bit. My son likes, he kind of likes in the night garden, he likes Bluey now.

He's got his head around Bluey because I don't think we're quite there with... No, he does not what's happening. Right. But he just points at the screen and watches it. Yeah. And I think we did like 20 minutes of a Disney movie the other day, which he liked. But we don't really do an awful lot of screen time. He loves... I know it sounds really wordy, but... He loves being outside and he loves reading books.

Who's outside in the winter? These days. Who's outside these days? Who's outside these days? Peter, on Monday we did promise... It's not making me feel like a bad dad because I make my child watch sing. It's not a reflection of you of course, I already know you're a bad dad. It's a talking koala who creates a singing competition and he's riddled with chlamydia that's never mentioned.

It's never mentioned, it's all in the subtext, but he's riddled with chlamydia and he's trying to save himself with expensive operations by making a lot of money. But yeah, good stuff. I hearty recommend Sing though, because my little one... I tried to help you out by moving onto the emails we said we'd do and you start talking about chlamydia. I can only help you as much as you want to help yourself. Have we had any emails about chlamydia for crying out loud? Not as far as I know. Speaking of health and stuff,

the Australian bloke who is the most prolific blood donor in the world. What an amazing legacy. He's 88, he died in his sleep at a nursing home in New South Wales and he's known in Australia as the man with the golden arm. He's basically got this rare antibody called anti-D inside him and it's used to make medication given to pregnant mothers whose blood is at risk of attacking their unborn babies. He's given it like so many times but he's saved 2.4 million babies. Fucking hell. That's amazing isn't it? That's absolutely amazing. Is it wrong on PC of me to suggest that if I knew I had that...

I'd keesh tom. No, no, I'm saying you can have your first half a million baby for free but let's talk turkey, let's talk turkey here, you know we've all got bills to pay. It's a funny one like ethically because he's probably been expected to do all that for nothing in a free biscuit. I guess so yeah he must be eating a lot of biscuits, he's probably been expected to do all that for nothing in a free biscuit. I guess so, yeah. He must be eating a lot of biscuits. He must have been reading a lot of shit magazines. Yeah. It's been a while since I've been... Should he be being paid? Yeah, it's a very good point. It's a very good point. Well, maybe...

I'm not saying you price yourself out the market. No, exactly. I'm just saying that you... Yo, are you going to wet the beak of an old pal or what? Are you going to be... It's important shit. Is he going to be afforded an unreleased Wu-Tang Clan album? No. I think he should. He should be. Oh by the way, Wu-Tang are doing a final tour as well aren't they?

But they've not announced UK dates yet. They've got US dates. But they're touring with fucking Run The Jewels. Oh wow that'd be good. Yeah! Yeah! And that's me speaking. I can't wait to spend hundreds of pounds on shit. That's an expensive year for you. But I couldn't get Oasis tickets so I'd prefer to do this I think. No, I think so. So I've got quite a rare blood type. Right. I can't remember what it's called now.

Let me just tell you. I think my dad's got a mad one that's only available in Iran or something. I think mine might be, I think might be AB negative, which is only one percent of people have it. I only found this out fairly recently because my mum told me and I said why don't you tell them before I would have donated. Yeah. Ask me if I've got round to donating since I found out. Have you got round to donating since you found out? Nah. I'll have to step up now, this Australian. Well yeah, you're going to have to. Last time I donated I, yeah, I passed out.

Because I didn't eat any breakfast. And also, I am a big wuss. Oh, before we do emails, can I, I know we're always doing this on this show, but I do need to chime in because you reminded me of something. And I do think it's got a pretty positive message and I'm not being paid to say this, it's not a commercial message,

they've not sponsored us. Hashtag ad. But I got a blood test from Newman.com. And are you aware of the service? I appreciate it, I think it's one of those where you send in your blood, they tell you what's wrong with you. It's a really good service because what they do is, they send you a kit, you give them a little vial of blood

He's doing a finger prick, but but the finger I've tried that with a finger My blood doesn't come out. Yeah, I have to do four fingers Barbaric but Mimi came in at one point was like what are you doing in here? Honestly, I only got like two thirds of the vial forward the way they do on the app. They tell you it's so easy It's fucking not easy. No Anyway in a carotid artery I successfully I successfully installed a catheter yeah no I did it and but what they do which I think is really interesting is you pay them an amount of money for the for the test and

all that kind of stuff yeah I don't know how much it was, 50, 60 quid, something like that. But they test you for loads of stuff, all through an app is where the results are published for you. And if everything is in the normal range, you get your money back. Oh, okay. Because they say, they say, look, it's a pretty brave move to check out your own health and men don't do it very much. So it's important to encourage it. Anyway, it turns out I've got fucking shit loads wrong with me so no danger of my money coming back. What did you need? Like loads of vitamin D and stuff?

So no, I had, so kidney function fine, liver function fine, most, actually to be honest, everything was fine. I was right on the border of high cholesterol. So whatever the number is for cholesterol that needs to be below, I think I was right on the border of high cholesterol. So whatever the number is for cholesterol that needs to be below, I think I was like 0.1 below. So they just did a couple of recommendations. Hey, is it a red line? Does a line exist or does it not exist? Do I need to know where I'm close to the line? The line exists for the lines of sick, so to speak. I want to push the limits. I'll bend the rules, but I never break them. They gave me a couple of recommendations

of that which is all fine. And then the other thing was I came back with quite a serious deficiency in vitamin B9 and B12. Oh yeah okay. How did you get that? Well I went to superdrug. Oh no, I mean like what food are you missing out on? I'm not sure because it said to, I did recommend, but I can't remember, I can look on the app, but what I ended up doing was just going to Superdrug, getting B9, which is also known as folic acid, and B12. Because what that means is if you have got a shortage of that, then you can be tired, you get a chance you can develop anemia, your red blood cell count can be low. So it's actually really important. And since I started taking it, it might be, maybe it's psychosomatic and it's a placebo effect or whatever, but I actually do feel a lot better actually taking it. It's worked out

quite well. I would recommend it. Just if you've got the money to spend, cause the reason I did it by the way is because I know how much the NHS are under pressure. I know how difficult it will be just to go to the GP surgery and say, can you please just get me a blood test for this, this and this? Because they're just going to say, no, there's nothing wrong with you. If you pay and you can afford to pay, I think it's a good investment in yourself.

And I'm pleased I did it. One of those little apps. Yeah, but what if it says like there's something really wrong and you're like, oh, God, I'm gonna check it out. Pete, guess what testosterone came back out. Oh God, off the charts I imagine. Above average. Above average. Not surprised. Not surprised.

Right, should we see? No, just leave that hanging out there for a bit. And then one of those. Let's do emails. All right. Let's do emails. Do you want to read this one from Adam because it's about me and it'll be a bit self-indulgent. Oh, Adam. Adam, Adam, Adam.

Morning Laps says Adam, I've been listening to this start of the show, since the start of the show and you're always my commute audio of choice on a Monday or Thursday when Pete isn't left in charge to upload the show. Rude. I don't know how that remained in there. I've been working for a fibre internet company in West Norwood in central London for the past four years and the entire time I've had a sense that Luke was describing the area we've been working in. What is that because I regularly say that I live in West Norwood in central London for the past four years and the entire time I've had a sense that Luke was describing the area we've been working in.

What is that because I regularly say that I live in West Norwood? Yeah I think so. Which I do. Yeah yeah. Last week finally confirmed this. The mad woman moving the bins in the General Street WhatsApp group sounded very familiar and obviously, skip this to avoid doxing Luke, but it sounded very much like he was near to a road.

I find myself regularly nodding along with both your ticks on the world. More Luke than Pete, I'm not that odd, how rude. This is a terrible email for me I should have read it before we started. Yes and you both validate far too many things for me. Anyway all of this to say I'm not sure if Pete ever travels south of the river but if you're both in the West Norwood area at some point I'd like to get you at least a pint or two for all the entertainment you provided over the last few years of Laps and the many ramble years. Ollibes, Adam. We do every now and again get offers of pints

I'll be in the great, I'm in the great Northwood every Friday afternoon So you want to make me a pint, buy me a pint in West Norwood Adam, that's all you've got to do It's right next to the train station, there's no excuses. I'll check the money That's a nice email of semi-docsing Lukimura. The bit you skipped out, which I think is actually really important, Peter, is that he mentions the Rosendale Road line bike vomit incident. Yeah I wasn't really sure which bits I should be removing. No I'm delighted he said that because I felt like people thought I was making it up. Yeah, okay. Yeah, he's ratified it, which makes me pretty happy.

I don't live that near the road he's mentioned that you kindly removed, but I could probably get to that road in about 15 minutes. Right. It's a walk. Okay. But no, nice to hear that some, well, listen, nice to hear that someone is installing fiber internet near where I live. Because I haven't seen much evidence of that.

Yeah, I rode past on my lime bike last week. The little bit around, still pissing out water out of the floor, which is just a constant thing. And I thought, look, he's gonna love that if he sees it. But maybe he wouldn't have done, because he might have limed in. Next door to us us for the last few days has had like this sewage leaking out of the pavement. Well it's got to go somewhere

in it. It's got to go somewhere. There's been a serious debate on the Whatsapp group I am a part of for my neighbourhood which has probably got, what's the maximum amount of members you can have in a Whatsapp group? It's like 250? Oh I don't know actually yeah. Well there's a lot of people on it, hundreds of people and they're all seriously thinking about I'm canceling their direct debits for Thames water. Yeah. I just mass not paying it because they put the bills up again and we've had our water turned off through their idiocy like ten times in the ten years I've been living there and there's leaks everywhere it It's just a total embarrassment.

So I would actually be in favour of that shit because fuck it. I tell you what, going to Kosovo for the weekend did remind me that, um, uh, what electricity used to be like, cause you would get quite a lot of power cuts. And nowadays I don't, I can't remember the last time I had a power cut, a proper one. Nah, we don't, we don't, we do all right with, do right with power cuts. It's just the water gets turned off all the time. And I think what's terrible is that, you know, it's, it's been a commodification of a basic human right. It pisses me off just to think of the principle

of it. If you, if your government can't run a nicely efficient water service, what's the point of it? It's actually, it's actually a fucking incident of pure societal vandalism to privatise it anyway. There's no justification for that. I'm going to start pooing in the garden, digging a latrine, digging a little hole and doing all the business in there because we can't trust them. We can't trust them. What do you think they're doing with your poo? I think they're probably molding it into little plasticine

shapes and making like a horrific poo related Wallace and Gromit stop motion animation with it. I think it's likely. And they'll probably charge you back for that. They'll charge you that way. For the IP. You want to watch the poo cartoon? You want to watch the poo hard man animation, do you?

It's going to be like 50 quid. The soft man. All right, what about this from Dave? He He says this is a really interesting email. Okay. Now he's called out for pilots and or doctors to get in touch about this. Right. I don't think that I don't think someone who would do that would be making this up. So it's a it's a pretty interesting story. So let me let me know what you think Peter. He says says, dear Luke and Pete, I'm hoping your pilot or doctor listeners can help with this intriguing experience on a recent flight to Faro. Faro, of course, for those people who don't know is in Portugal. My wife and I were heading for a few days, child free in the Algarve, when 25 minutes or so from our destination, the jet 2 cabin crew announced that to reduce weight ahead of landing, they would be selling hot food for half price. Oh.

Now while I appreciate some of the passengers' bodies may absorb the food quite quickly turning them into energy to fuel their long golfing weekends, surely this just transfers the weight inside the passengers as opposed to aeroplane trolleys. I'm not a pilot or a doctor but I am intrigued. Maybe it was an excuse to get rid of the items, maybe it's a secret conspiracy to get us to eat bang average plane food, maybe it's Elon Musk. What do you reckon? And no I did not partake in this offer. All the best Dave. I think that it was for the next leg and not for that leg. Free up the room. Free up the space and the weight of food really

sort of that sounds like an erroneous shout for me Clive. It can't be meaningfully heavy. No and it's going to be in your belly isn't it so if you eat that food. I remember when I first realised or first saw out the window of a plane when I was on the stand, that they load in loads and loads of cargo and freight and stuff onto the plane. I honestly thought when I was a kid that you had a limitation on your baggage because the plane wasn't going to take off. And then once I remember just seeing, I think it was a massive pallet of salmon. It must have weighed about a tonne. Spare salmon? Why the salmon? Where the salmon off to? Yeah, I have no idea where they're flying to, but same place as me probably.

Yeah. Because they were getting on the plane. But and then sometimes they wheel like cars in there and stuff, don't they as well? Not on passenger flights. No, I thought they did. Too big, too big. So I don't imagine the food is going to make a huge difference anyway. No, I completely agree. But I'm always fascinated about how rudimentary the whole short

haul cargo holds are. They're just like the bottom of a bus. It's just like fiberglassy looking walls just pushing bits of suitcase in. And do they have a system for putting the luggage on? Because you know when you get that priority luggage if you're flying business or whatever. Is that legit? That goes on last presumably then.

Yeah, I guess it's got a tag on it. Because your stuff will come out first, won't it? Yeah. But it doesn't get a separate section though, no? No, I don't think so. And I think I'm fascinated by where where certain planes have the capacity in the cargo hold for like flammables and stuff so like if some like if some of the if something suddenly there's a fire in in the actual

cargo hold parts of the cargo hold will be like pressurized or they'll be have some kind of fire destruction system that kind of manages to sort of isolate and extinguish the fire. It'll suck the oxygen out of the, you know, pressurize it so there's no oxygen to actually burn anything. And just obviously with everything's got lithium ion batteries in now and it's pretty spectacular when they go up or get punctured. There we go. Well, listen, someone could get in touch and tell us if that's absolute nonsense.

We suspect it probably is. I'm not saying it didn't happen, Dave. I'm just saying that there's probably absolutely no reason for it whatsoever. All right, let's have a break. When we come back we'll do batteries and if we can, we'll squeeze another email in. All right, in.

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We talk about the batteries what you have found Oh, yeah, yeah, and before you go into it Peter on on Monday you mentioned judo batteries. I thought I wouldn't check because it's a Monday but it's now a Thursday. I will check. I found 11 instances of judo batteries. So not very popular but nonetheless haven't seen before. No, very poor for me. It's that kind of like jumping off point where like if it's been mentioned 50 times that's mental but like 11's getting to the point where you should really know. You should really know before suggesting. You host the show. Yeah, I mean speaking of which, Tom has had another stinker. Luke why Pete I've just arrived in Saudi Arabia to film the boxing this weekend well any interest in a Bexel Zinc Carbon found on TV get out stick to filming boxing Tom

don't bring your batteries up in this bit stick to filming the old it's not a roundhouse punch is it what's the what's the big punch? The self pause, I'm trying to think of boxing references, hair makers, that's what I need, upper cuts, body blows. 180 times Bexel's been sent in. That's poor. It's basically the rung below Duracell. Alex has got a church, hello looking Pete and sure from the good old US of A, from the well-renowned Peach State. found these on a bubble spitting toy That I bought for a birthday present for a nephew Hopefully these make it to the battery daddy first time submit also congrats on the new baby

Which is a new battery I found it's called baby It's a it's a nine volt battery Yes, what we got here Thunderbolt Magnum. Look atile. I feel like this might be a new play, you know. You are unfortunately Alex the 8th first to send those in. Fuck off. But I have visited Georgia, the Peach State, a number of times and I've always found it a beautiful place. Have I ever been to Georgia?

You've been to Atlanta? Yes. Then you have. Yes I have, well good, I enjoyed it immensely. Yes, hello to Francis. Good morning from sunny Essex. For the last year, I've lived with my girlfriend and I usually put a podcast on when I go out of bed.

Now, I've always believed that my partner is sound-os by the time I put this on, and so when I fall asleep, she's none the wiser. However, unpacking for us to move into our first home, she pulls this out of a cuddly toy and told me to send this into the battery podcast I make her listen to when I go to sleep. I can't believe you're doing it on speakers. I know right, wow. I therefore present to you. Go to sleep.

Go to sleep. Go to sleep, Frances girlfriend. Go to sleep, Ree. You've got to get up really early. Don't get nervous about how early you've got to get up and make, pry on your mind and get anxious and not be able to get to sleep, whatever you do. And if you do get to sleep, don't dream about Francis being improper with other ladies. Therefore I present to you...

Don't dream about Francis being improper with me and Pete. Exactly, yeah. Francis. Ooh, lovely. Francis be... get on the bed. Therefore I present to you the Perfect pets extra long life alkaline. Perfect pets with three Z's. I mean what's that CN? Canada. Oh lovely, ok nice like that. Men in China, dispatched by the good people of perfect pets in Canada.

Zero percent mercury and zero percent cadmium. Don't even mention it, Why don't you just write fucking zero percent you know vitamin B12? There's none of that in there either is there? Like Lukey he's B12 repellent. Oh not anymore because I won the supplements mate. Ooh supplements. I'm pumped full of beans. Yes I also sit at the Rammel so she cares against the enjoyment of that as well. Keep the good work. I mean she sounds long-suffering, yeah. I'm sorry, Ray. I'm sorry you're having to deal with this man who constantly cheats on you. That's so mean.

It's so mean. That's such a mean thing to say, but seriously, Francis, tell her the truth. Put it... Francis, who do you think you are? Don fucking Draper. Put it away for crying out loud. We've never met Francis and we have no idea what his character is. Yeah, but we're not the sort of men Francis is like, don't know, we've met plenty of them. Peter, you've gone too far now. I'm sorry, right. Is it a new player or is it not? It's a new player!

It is! That bro beating! Yeah, it's Is it a new player or is it not? It's a new player! It's a new player! It is! That brow-beating! Yeah, it's worth it then. Like Zelensky in the Oval Office, we're going to publicly absolutely destroy you, just so you can get some bits and bobs. I think, Rhee, when you really are honest with yourself, you'll say that a new battery being added to the Battery Daddy more than wakes up for the fact that Francis illegitimately got several different partners.

He's the battery daddy. Francis is the battery daddy. Enjoy your... We're only joking. We don't know Francis. Thanks for sending it in, Francis. Thanks for listening. Lovely wood grain on the picture behind it as well. Agree, yeah. Agree. And it's an exciting time, isn't it, to move in with a partner for the first time? Everything's so new and everything's so clean and everything's so not ruined by my shoddy DIY. It's a very fine problem, isn't it?

That's not your experience. Never mind. All right, so one new player, Perfect Pets. It's a good one to be honest. I don't mind. I mean, what are you putting, why are they selling that? What battery sort of situation? Yeah, maybe it's just to run alongside a specific product.

They sometimes are aren't they? That's a cuddly toy. So maybe it's a perfect pet. Maybe that's a cuddly toy. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. Let's finish with this email from Dylan. Oh, it's a very accurate dog or cat toy that presumably, it's a unique alternative to pet ownership,

sort of in the same mould as those realistic babies that grannies have sometimes. Enjoy the convenience and affection of having your very own pet without the hassle and expense. So there we go. Interesting enough, when I grabbed my bag this morning to pack it to come to work, my cat was asleep in the bag. That's a nice surprise. Yeah, it was kind of made me jump, but it was quite cute. Quite cute. Yeah.

You know, I just found a little little snug little snug spot. They do little schnauzers. I should have taken a photo, but I didn't have my phone on me at the time. Anyway, let's finish with this email from Dylan. He says, hi, chaps, been enjoying the World War military scaffolding chat recently. Do you want to just run people down what that is? Weirdos who are obsessed with the first world war and the poppies and stuff. You'll see a lot of sort of builders firms and builders merchants and scaffolding companies who insist on just spraying

the poppy all over their workplace for little or no reason. Well Dylan says, well doing the school runs there in my local village north of Sheffield, I came across this HGV, which stands for Heavy Goods Vehicle. Quite an interesting placement, enjoy Dylan. It's the cab of a lorryorry or a truck as my son would say with Lest We Forget Poppy on it and then like a actually quite well rendered black and white image of loads of Spitfires and Spitfire pilots then Winston Churchill in the middle doing the V for victory sign. Yeah I wonder if you can get that. What's the point of that? I wonder like is that like a rap? Was that painted directly onto the piece of

sort of an MDF? I don't really know how that works really. I think it's a wrap as well, yeah. I think you could probably get that for the side of your car. So when people do this kind of thing, are they thinking it's going to scare them up more business? Because it's like, oh, they're really patriotic, so we'll give them that business. Because if that's the case, this is like a freight lorry. I mean, it's not doing any public face in business anyway. It's just carrying containers from one place to another.

Yeah, that's a good point actually. And you can't see it when a container's on so what's that about? Oh, you're only partially patriotic are you? You're only patriotic when you haven't got a container to take somewhere Yeah, why don't you have a man with a big, with, is a poppy, why don't you have poppies driving the trucks for crying out loud? Yeah, yeah, there we go Good question Pete, well done mate Good question, thanks man, thanks Shall we squeeze in a quick one before we go?

Oh, I was gonna say Dylan was the last one. We'll do another one. I don't mind. We'll do another one. I think we've got a bit of time. Nick says, hi there, look at the Pete. I've got no batteries for you but hope you might be able to give your thoughts on where you draw the line on problematic music artists you shouldn't be listening to. For reference I have very taste meaning around the thrash heavy deathcore metal E-mode genres and we have a fair share of problematic characters notably Ian, don't start with Ian Watkins, I mean even in the grand scheme of Marilyn Manson a global act I think it's fair to say and the bloke who went to prison for hiring a hitman to murder his wife Tim Lamisas as I lay dying. Yeah I'd never heard of him and I'd never heard of that story. Who's the fellow who loves doing, is it Anthrax? No I'm not gonna start throwing out names. Phil Anselmo from Pantera. Phil Anselmo yeah just throwing out the old Elon Musk doesn't he so

good stuff good stuff. Yeah he's he's had like controversy dogging for a long time and he's always like you know I don't know to be honest. Has he squeaked out of it or has he just went... Occasionally, like occasionally, but then a lot of time he'll like apologize for being in quote unquote insensitive and stuff like that. Right, okay, it's nice. But he's a very odd, very kind of odd character anyway. I was thinking about it, Mumford and Sons are back with a new single and one of their number was forced to leave because of his unique and distinct love for John Peterson.

Well he said he chose to leave didn't he? Right, yeah okay. To pursue his own research. You know like, it's just unhelpful, do you know what I mean? I've got interests, but if I suddenly started going fucking John Peterson, you know, New World Order, fucking weird shit, and trying to sneak it in on the podcast, instead I'm just talking about used car YouTubers and stuff like that, and wrestling basically.

Like, you'd have to have a conversation and go, this is not good for you. You can pursue that in your private life, but this is just demented. Why are you being a dickhead? I think he was an incredibly privileged, weird, right wing loser, essentially. Because he kind of really lent into it publicly as well. I think he's got a profile now and all that type of stuff. Phil Ancelmo, I was just looking up his excuses because some of them are quite

fucking farcical. One of them when he was filmed giving a Nazi salute and screaming the words white power to the crowd, he claimed it was an ingest reference to him always drinking white wine. Which is just so bad. I think he's having a bit of a giggle there personally. I don't think he's saying sorry at all, Luke. No, he probably isn't. And then when he, I think he then said that there are loads of people

screaming racist at him because of his old, because of the earlier racist thing he said. Yeah, because of all the stuff he'd said, yeah. So he said, so I just went as racist as I could, just to, you know, to just show them what, you know, show them, I don't know, show them what I mean. I'll read the quote to you, he says, when people start screaming racist over and over and over again at me, what I did was show them exactly what the ugliest possible thing I could think of at the time was. Yeah, that's more apologetic than the earlier I was talking about White Wine.

It's a long history of, at best, controversial shit dating back to like 1995. And I think he's now in the current climate. I think he and his band just get pulled, they just get dropped from places all the time now. But I think they were confirmed for the Black Sabbath thing, weren't they? Yes, yes, I believe they were. So who knows what's happening there? Because one of those racism things that he did, clear incident of racism that he performed was at an Oz Fest. That'd be interesting to see if he survives, if his band survives that. But he's a very odd character anyway. I mean, he lives essentially in the middle of a swamp. Right, okay.

Like a very gothic, almost like, people who are listening and know more about this than me will be able to correct me here. But I think it's like in the middle of a swamp in like the deep south, in this basically gigantic tree house type thing. Right, okay, yeah, that's fair. It's a very, very odd chap.

Do you not think that if he went through his cupboard, you'd find some really moody stuff? Oh, sure. No, I bet he's got some stuff. You'd be very brave to go to his place and start going through his cupboard. He's probably got about 50 guns. To answer the question with Nick, it's a really complicated situation because, you know, as long as there has been art and culture, people have had to separate art from artists, right? The old classic, you know, Caravaggio was a murderer, but people still think he's a genius artist, right? There's loads of problematic stuff over the years. It's a personal thing, isn't it, really? I personally wouldn't listen to music by racists or music by abusers,

but then the thing is, you know, I've never really listened to Lost Prophets anyway, unlike you. Mario Manzard kind of take or leave has not really come up. The only kind of example I suppose that is person is that in the 70s, David Bowie said some really stupid shit. He said some really stupid shit about Nazism and stuff, but then he's you know, subsequently in the 30 or 40 years that followed he did then like repeatedly say I was totally wrong. I was young. I was out of my mind on drugs. It was a stupid thing to say I fucking ashamed of it. I should never have said it and then to me that's a bit like well, I Don't think I'm realistically gonna endlessly punish someone for saying something stupid in the 70s When they've clearly admitted it was wrong

They've made up for it by apologizing and donating money and that kind of stuff It's just I think it just comes down to how you personally feel about it. It's exposure you can you can handle as well Yeah, what do you think? I agree with the other boy thing There's not that many I think because music is so personal and so it's supposed to be people speaking from the heart, when you find something out about someone, it does kind of like, it does a lot of damage to how you feel about music, isn't it?

I mean like. Yeah, and you've also got to be sensitive to, you know, we are straight white men, right? So it's kind of, we can think about this from an academic point of view, whereas other people have to think about it from how it affects them. And I totally understand that. I think, I think it's absolutely disgraceful, for example, how Chris Brown has been accepted back into mainstream society after his, to say the least, indiscretions.

If there's a bit of money to me though, like they'd... Yeah, exactly. And you know what the sad thing is and I covered this when I did the show with TORTA, their news meeting around this time so I know this because I did the research into it. You know unfortunately when Puff Daddy got accused of all that stuff his streams went up on Spotify. People don't care in the grand scheme of things which is really sad. Yeah oh well um I'm off to listen. You want this email to end with so it's your fault. Well I just jumped in I didn't see what the email was to be honest.

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