The Luke and Pete Show - Raygun

Episode Date: August 19, 2024

Luke gloats about his latest lime bike accomplishment but Pete is quick to bring him back down to earth, reminding him that, technically, he’s mechanically doping. In return, Luke makes fun of his a...ccent.Plus, they can’t let the Olympics chat pass by before they discuss the B Girl phenomenon, Raygun.Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Who the hell is drilling outside? Who thinks it is acceptable drilling outside when I am recording podcasts? I know that I am under the flight path for London South End Airport, but I don't need that in my life. People drilling away. Is it drillip Schofield? Is it drillip Schofield? No it's not. Is it drillip Larm? Easily works as well. Easily works as well. Any of the major floats to be honest. What do you think about London South End Airport being called that? It's a little bit like, I will say it's probably, it's a 40 minute from Liverpool Street if you want to drive into the centre of London from South End it's gonna take you two hours one minute
Starting point is 00:00:50 mmm but that isn't that just London though if you did the same for Heathrow that'll probably be the same at this time of the day wouldn't it? Nah Heathrow I can get from my house to Heathrow in like an hour. That's not your house, you're not central London. But I'm further away than central London. What do you mean? That's the proper of go through central London to get there. If you're going from, I would say from London rail station terminal to, which is how everybody does it really, I would say from, you could probably work from Leicester Square to Southend Airport, Leicester Square to Heathrow, probably similar, probably cracker. What, you reckon the trains are much better? Yeah, I reckon, yeah, the trains are...
Starting point is 00:01:30 Because you would do Heathrow Express in like 35 minutes, you know that right? Yeah, but that's in Paddington. You've got to get to Paddington first, haven't you? Correct. And it's probably got quicker over the years, but I would say that if you go to like, yeah, if you go out, it's probably about an hour from Leicester Square to get to London South and Edbot, I would say, if you're lucky. Which is about the same as Stansted, which is about the same.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I mean, it doesn't matter, because there's no bloody flights going from there. Couple of twoies every day in Orion Air to, I don't know, Amsterdam or something, that's all you get. Easy jet, rubbish. Have you flown out of Southend before? I have, it's 400 quid to flights to bloody south of Spain. Absolute toss. Not worth doing.
Starting point is 00:02:07 What time of the flight? And even then, and the only big thing is, I've met Sarah, this is brilliant, we could literally drive to the airport and Sarah wanted us to get a taxi. I'm like, I want them to be able to drive to the airport and just park outside. How long would it take you to get to Southend Airport from where you live? Twelve minutes. That's good. What time would it take you to get to Southend Airport from where you live? 12 minutes? That's good. It's good, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:02:27 Candy floss on the doorstep. London Southend Airport that goes absolutely nowhere. I think it might go to Alicante. Alicante! Once a week, that's about it. My parents live right near an airport called Solent Airport, but sadly it's a private airport that doesn't have any commercial flights. Do you just get absolutely banging business flights? Do you get like absolutely banging
Starting point is 00:02:48 private jets and stuff? And weird little ones? Spitfire, pleasure flights. That's the main kind of business outside of London Southend Airport. It's all little 1940s jobs and sometimes on windy days you're playing football football, 11 aside, right next to the flight path and right next to the runway and good god, they look like they're coming in sideways, some of them. You are like, I know you have to get up your hours, but could you just not fly quite so chaotically near me, a nervous goalkeeper?
Starting point is 00:03:22 If Sorent Airport was like, in it's been commissioned but it's I cannot tell you how much reflex it would be to fly into there and just walk to my parents house in like five minutes to bag over the shoulder. You feel like a proper like rock star. You can get like again pilots who are getting their um their timings up they're their hours in the air up that you can get them to um, you can fly from say like, I don't know, say they're flying to Teesside today or they're flying to like Robin Hood Airport or something, they'll be flying from weird places, you could fly from Solent to somewhere in the UK, kind of roughly close to your house. No no no, but if they, you can go on a website that basically
Starting point is 00:04:02 you can sit in like a two or three man turbo propy kind of plane. And because they're just getting there, they're just having a go at flying and you could sit in with you. I mean, it's not for the less confident flyer, let's say. I'm not interested in that. I don't understand any need to go to Nottingham that badly. Do you remember when they used to have like eye in the sky kind of planes for like capital radio and stuff? That was big in the US wasn't it for like traffic and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yeah but they used to have one every day they used to take up like three or four different journalists every morning. I don't know why it was a thing I mean I guess they and they would just fly over the motorways of the UK and so I go oh that one's busy that one's gridlocked that one's busy and that was the only information we had. Absolutely insane, isn't it? I'm pretty sure a load of them were the ones following OJ, weren't they? Oh, yes. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Well, out in America, out in like California, a lot of the speed sort of, what do you call them?
Starting point is 00:04:58 Like measuring people's speed, legal or otherwise, done by planes, which seems like a big waste of aviation fuel. Yeah, you don't see, I mean, obviously I can't speak on behalf of the entirety of America, but where I go to in the US, you don't really see speed cameras. No, no. It's all done by the older police officers themselves. In laybys. And you know like when, you know like when Waze, you can sort of say, the feds are in
Starting point is 00:05:23 that bush over there, you can sort of report the feds are in that bush over there, you can sort of report a sighting of the police and loads of people do because they're absolute nimbies. But like every time you click police, they're sat in their bush going, no police. It literally cancels out. Every time they appear on the map they go, no police, no police, no police. I always click still there on Waze. Still there on everything, whatever it is. I don't understand why Waze is so obsessed with the news that a car has stopped by the side of the road. No, I know! Why is that relevant to me?
Starting point is 00:05:51 I'm not a mechanic, I can't help them. They are stopped on the side of the road, they are awaiting transport, but for some reason they've got to tell us that there's a car at the side of the road. Be careful on the A3 because there's a car on the hard shoulder. It's not relevant. I'm not driving in the hard shoulder and I don't plan to. And they have their warning so early, it's like something's in the road. What is it going to be? What is it going to be?
Starting point is 00:06:13 Half a mile away there's a car. I've also seen poor visibility, fog, all sorts of stuff. Waze really frustrates me because it's like the best of a bunch. It really underestimates how long it actually takes to get anywhere, which really frustrates me. I don't know. I drive into London quite early and it's usually pretty accurate, weirdly. Do you not find it really frustrating when the time you're going to arrive there just keeps ticking up and ticking up and ticking up? Well, I listen to it and I go the way it tells me to. I don't just kind of like think I'm going to go the other way. I don't know what a GPS fucking entails.
Starting point is 00:06:47 I'm just saying that why does it keep... Why does the time keep going later in life? Because you're clearly driving the wrong way. Listen to the ways and it will treat you. It's owned by Google. It's the same thing as like Google Maps. It's weird. No, I think... I don't think it is.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I think it is owned by Google, but I think it much more prioritizes user data. It prioritizes user data, yeah, but it's based on the same kind of system, which is... It's a different product though, a different product. A different product. But why doesn't Google have all of this stuff? Because I think people have issues with knocking on people to Google. I think they're seen as like...
Starting point is 00:07:20 I think it's not seen as a good thing, but whiz, it's got a little whale or something, whatever the fact that is. Do the people who own Google, is it still owned by Sir Guy Breen and Larry Page? God knows. They don't pipe up with problematic stuff as much. I know they've probably got a lot of really bad business practices, but they don't pipe up as much as your musks and your super-blogs. I don't know why anybody in their position needs validation.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Because they've got their friends and they're desperate for attention. why anybody in their position needs validation. Do you know what I mean? They're friends and they're desperate for attention. But why wouldn't you, like, you're already there, mate. You're like, there's nothing, there's nothing, there's nothing, you're already quite famous. People will still cite you in business articles. People will still revere you inexplicably. They'll talk about you at kind of like retreats where you get up at o'clock in the morning journal and do ice baths and stuff It's it's just one of those things like so don't worry about you don't get involved in the discourse I also find it really interesting that like I
Starting point is 00:08:15 Can't square the circle and understand why people who spend all their time Pretending they're clever My people who follow musk and follow Bezos and follow Peter Thiel and all these kind of really weird guys who are all billionaires, they can't seem to understand a really basic concept, which is that Peter Thiel and Elon Musk aren't talking sincerely about the idea that they don't think, you know, Joe Biden's very good or Kamala Harris is very good good and that Donald Trump is really good And so they should vote for Donald Trump that they're doing that because they know they're gonna get loads of tax breaks But it's like the easiest thing in the world to understand
Starting point is 00:08:54 There's no sometimes things ain't that fucking deep right and they'll dress up and they want to dress it up But traditionally speaking, you know the more right wing the Republican Party gets and the more they get into power the more really wealthy People become more wealthy. Yeah, that's the only calculation So but on on there's people on Twitter who will take a bullet for Musk Do you mean? It's cuz he sells the cyber trucks and it looks somebody it was on You can't tell with the Cybertrucks good. I don't know anything about cars, but I cannot understand that it's good.
Starting point is 00:09:28 They said, I mean, it seems like there's a lot wrong with it. It rusts. It's the, the, the panels are just, um, steel on plastic and it's just all just a bit of a Potemkin village of a car. But, um, I think somebody described it, a lovely little line. Um, the Cybertruck is basically, uh basically the DeLorean if the mum smoked during pregnancy. So I think it's a take the rest of the day off kind of line, very very enjoyable. I just don't know what timeline we're on, I know we keep coming back to this and it's like it's
Starting point is 00:09:59 Gotham, we've done it in a fucking Gotham, we've done it in fucking Gotham. We just celebrate these lunatics. Yeah, and the guy who's currently running to be VP for the Republican Party, Jerry Vance, he's completely funded by Peter Thiel, who gave an interview the other day in public saying that he thinks the 2020s is like 1920s Weimar Germany, and we need to understand we're in a post-democratic world. He said, we're not in a post-democratic world, you've just decided that you think we are. Like, vast majority of people would still quite like the vote. So hang on, so we're talking about, you know, Renton-Mark era, hyperinflation, Germany. What does he think the best next step is?
Starting point is 00:10:40 Hitler? What is the fucking... I think he wants some kind of dictatorship. Right, okay. step is Hitler. What is the fucking... Yeah he does. I think he wants some kind of dictatorship. Right. He'll have a stake in it, right? So he'll be a part of some kind of authoritarian cabinet because he's got a billionaire. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And these people, it's thinly veiled. Head of the Volkswagen factory. Yeah, it's thinly veiled because they know they're going to get tax breaks and they're going to be wealthy and no one's going to come after their money and they're going to probably be able to do whatever they want because really no one's going to pursue them and prosecute them for stupid shit and there's going to be no regulation on their businesses and stuff like that. All that stuff. But also because I think they get into a situation where because they've been super successful at one thing, they think
Starting point is 00:11:17 that they honestly do think they're better and brilliant, more brilliant at everything else than everyone else. Yeah. It's almost like this idea. they think they're being benevolent, they think they know what's best for normal people so they say this stuff. When actually, if you took about, took like 50% of all the stuff Elon Musk said and put it out there, not knowing it came from Elon Musk, everyone would agree it was complete fucking nonsense. And none of these rich guys ever get told the real situation because they don't know any real people and they're all in a bit of a bubble, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:11:48 I don't know whether I said it on the show, but like, did I say it on the show? I know I texted you about it. The training data for your cyber trucks, for the old, the Tesla self-driving option in, which I think you can do in America, but you'll never probably be able to do it here. They use training data, obviously, from real-life drivers driving around the streets of America, right? And basically, they send squads out to drive around the same roads that Elon Musk drives regularly,
Starting point is 00:12:21 and also influencers, car reviewers and stuff. So they go on videos and they look at where the car influencer and car drivers are driving generally from their videos, work it out and then they basically just do lots and lots of laps of that so the data is really rich in those areas so that when influencers get in a car and do their usual circuit, their kind of test circuit that they would do around the streets of America, they get a better and inaccurate view of what the normal driving, self-driving technology
Starting point is 00:12:53 is like in other people's experiences and in other people's cars. Same with Elon Musk. So Elon Musk is in such a bubble that even his own company, he doesn't know how bad his cars are because the data technicians hide the real product, the low bar product, the low bar that he should really be experiencing and hope to make rise. He only ever sees the best of his cars effectively because all of
Starting point is 00:13:16 the data is based around the loop that he does from, I don't know, wherever the fuck he lives to whatever country club he plays golf in. And so, I kind of a lot of the... Or smokes that sticky in. A lot of it is similar then to the principle to the idea of when Putin decided to invade Ukraine, he was being told all this bullshit by his generals who had basically been embezzling all the money. So they were reporting back. We won't fire any missiles, I don't know where they've gone.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I don't know where they've gone. It wasn't even just that, it was just that they were, you know, accepting the idea that they had been given all this money to buy all this military equipment and develop all this stuff and knowing that he would never check, just fucking embezzling it. And then all of a sudden Putin was invading Ukraine with a load of 1970s equipment and stuff because all of it had gone missing. Well, haven't the Ukrainians this week, I mean we're recording it a week a couple of in advance, but they managed to take as much land in Russia that the Russians
Starting point is 00:14:11 managed to hold that took them two years to hold, in fact we've taken hold. They've made an incursion to Russian territory. But they managed to take like a ridiculous amount of space. Obviously that is going to be rebalanced at some point but it's quite amusing that it just went right, come on then you bastards and just took it. And isn't Musk also on some really weird kind of attitude because he's estranged from a couple of his children? Yeah, I like his daughter, daughter, daughter, who very much just keeps on dropping truth bombs upon his Twitter or however
Starting point is 00:14:52 she's expressing herself. His followers won't give a shit. They will not care. I just feel like we're inventing stuff and getting bogged down with stuff in everyday life that we don't need to be worrying about and we're ignoring all the important shit. Right, so what I mean by that is, you know, let's spend all of our time arguing on Facebook with our uncle that we never see about whether, you know, the world's gone mad when there's like 12,000 food banks in the country. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:21 It's like we're ignoring all the actual important stuff. Luke, I keep on asking us to set up an Algerian female boxing podcast but you will not let me and I've always been a fan of Algerian, the integrity of Algerian female boxing. As you well know and it's undeniable that I am an expert in that, the same way I was an expert in COVID, and in Magna Carta, and CBD gummies. I tell you what, it doesn't take much to be an expert in break dancing when you're watching that rig at the Olympics. It's good stuff. How did that even happen? I still don't know how that happened. I don't know. I don't know. I think perhaps she feels, I think her USP is that she makes up new routines and new moves that no one's ever seen before.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Unfortunately there might have been some parallel creating with toddlers because they do that kind of thing quite a lot. It was an astonishing look, it was proper throwback Eddie the Eagle Edwards kind of performance for me, it was really good stuff, very enjoyable. She said that I was never going to beat the girls on what they do best in breaking, the dynamic and the power moves, so I wanted to move differently, be artistic and creative, I was always the underdog and wanted to make my mark in a different way. Mm-hmm. I like it big fun. I Do feel I feel like it's a bit of a bit of a piss-take for actual Olympians at work really hard to get where they are
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah, yeah Things it can be all those things. I think it's a really strange start for the sport in in the Olympics Oh, isn't it? Do you know I think it's a really strange start for the sport in the Olympics though, isn't it? Do you know, I think it's kind of, it's a really bizarre start. Because it's not like it's, you know, it's not like the Jamaican bobsleigh team. You know, it's Australia. People are outside all the time. You can get involved in the whole break dancing thing anytime you want, really. Do you know? There's that, there's a bit of culture there. It's the West effectively, it's an English language speaking, you know, and they will have grown up with Americana and they will have grown up with this
Starting point is 00:17:34 sort of thing all of their lives and that's what the Australians choose to give us on the World's Day. It is very funny. It'll never happen again until it happens again. Yeah, they're probably gonna have to make some changes like when they used to have town planning as an Olympic sport and stuff. Yeah, good stuff though. Oh, should we do an email?
Starting point is 00:17:53 Let's do an email or two, shall we? Let's do an email or two. We've got a few in here, so. Shall we take a short break to give to her? Yeah, okay. Tell her her own break. You do your thing, mate. And then, speaking of breaking,
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Starting point is 00:18:45 Give us an email, Luke for crying out loud. We've got loads to read out. All right, this is from Nick. He says, hey, Luke and Pete, listen to the episode where Luke pitched his idea for a reality show where people learn a job for a week and then see how long they can trick people into actually thinking they're qualified for said job.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I mentioned it again, didn't I, on Thursday. Sadly, this reminded me of my daily work experience. I'm in IT and I manage a lot of business systems at my company and although I'm an expert in many it's not uncommon for some new tool or software to be purchased that is just dumped in my lap to manage. This means I often find myself as the admin of a system I hadn't even heard of two days prior and everyone assumes I'm an expert at it. Sounds like me in the studio.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Sounds like me attempting to help run this company to be honest. Usually what this looks like is a co-worker reaching out asking how to fix some error or issue I have to pretend I know what I'm talking about while frantically Googling and trying to find an answer. To be fair, I usually get away with it. That's a lot of people's life, general employment experience though, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. I think though in tech, I think it's easier to a certain extent to obfuscate,
Starting point is 00:19:55 but I think it's harder to keep that pretense going for very long, because at the end of the day, if showing ain't working, and it's not as if buying a new computer or, you know, signing some kind of form to get some more memory installed is gonna improve things. But it might buy you a bit of time to learn about it. I feel like my role is a lot less technical though. So I can just- What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:20:19 As in like- My job, I just, people just ask me questions and I'll just say what I think at the time. Right. But, yeah. But I mean, I would say that you're not in IT though this this Nick is very much in IT. No one's coming to me to fix anything. What could you what could you fix? Like what is the what's the most technical bit of kit you could fix? Like get back up on the wheels.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Back up on the wheels. It's a really good question. Things generally just work these days, don't they? They do and that's the issue, isn't it? Yeah, I think I could probably go some way towards fixing a few internet connectivity problems probably. Okay, right, yeah, click it away yeah. I ain't been able to do anything beyond fixing a kind of, I could change your tyre, or change
Starting point is 00:21:10 your wheel I suppose if I had to. They sort of say that like. Change a plug, do a light fitting. When you used to, when people used to see their daddies fixing their, fixing the family car on their driveway every weekend. Back in the day, they weren't fixing it, they were maintaining it. So cars and stuff nowadays, it works without any user interaction, but back in the day, computers, cars, vehicles, transport had to be maintained. So that's what people spent their time doing. Nowadays it's
Starting point is 00:21:45 kind of like they're built to, not necessarily to last, but they're built to withstand no maintenance. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, and also if you buy a car from an approved dealer, you get a maintenance thing as part of it anyway. Yeah, but I would say that old computers and stuff, if you left a computer on for like a month, it would just start to just grind to a halt. But nowadays, like I can confidently just leave my computer on for, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:12 killing the planet with energy, but leave my computer on for ages. And it never really degrades as it used to. It used to like, everything used to be fixed with a control or delay and a reset. Nowadays, things do just kind of work for the longest time and memory just gets looked after because it's designed for the person who is quite diligent but also the person who isn't at all.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And it's fair to say that Macs last longer than PCs right? I don't think they last longer I just think they're a bit more. Mine fucking does. You keep on threatening to kill it. You keep on threatening to get rid of it because they're too heavy your little arms. That's true actually, it's not my arms, it's Karen cycling in with it on my back. Oh my god spectacularly, I was on a, I've moved from Linebike to Forest Bike. Why have you made that move across to the dark side? Bit cheaper, they're a little bit cheaper I believe. That's alright, you love setting fire to money. I know, right. I put my satchel and my mobile phone in the front basket and because of the patchwork Thames Water mess that they seemed to want to inflict on Highbury, both my satchel and
Starting point is 00:23:21 my phone just went absolutely flying in the air and was almost run over by a bus. It was very exciting. I look like a right idiot. And you lost your charger for your headphones. And I lost my charger for my headphones. I'll not see them again. That's annoying. I broke the 4000km barrier on my Linebike account today. Oh does it tell you? Interesting. You see that? Well you can't see it can you? No, it's frozen a little bit. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:47 4,015 kilometers But I mean that's that is battery aided. That is you have got a ghost in the machine. Yeah, definitely I'm mechanically doping for sure. I'm mechanically doping. Nick also says PS was listening to one of the pods earliest episodes I'm a shock to hear how Luke pronounced the word taco As an American listener one of my favorite things to do while shocked to hear how Luke pronounced the word taco. As an American listener, one of my favourite things to do while listening to Luke and Pete in the round is when I hear a word pronounced differently than it is in the US and trying to determine whether the British say it differently than Americans or simply Pete doesn't know how
Starting point is 00:24:16 to pronounce the word. So I think he means how you pronounce it, not me. That is disgusting. I let Luke get away with loads of stuff because I'm not a penent, but Luke will never let me get away with it. And sometimes he's wrong. And sometimes he tells us I've got to say it in a certain way. Say taco. That's not how you say it. Taco.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I mean, obviously mine's different. But it's how you say it. Taco. My favourite word that you pronounce is the word oat. Oat. Yeah. I remember when you first ever said that to me. I think you're probably the first person I've ever met from Hartlepool and I literally had no idea what you were
Starting point is 00:24:50 saying. Why did you have an oat on your drink then? It wasn't a lemon pip and you thought it was an oat. Oat? Why you put an oats in your drink? You smell like lovely oats. It happened to me once when I first went to... I've seen it before you look like a man who's got oats in his drinks. When I went to university for the first time, one of my really good friends Tommy is from Essex. He hasn't done that so much now, but he used to have a really broad Essex accent. I was asking him about going to see someone to help me with something around accommodation or something. And the lady he was telling me to go and see, he was saying her name in such a way that I literally had no idea what he was trying to say and he was saying the name Dawn
Starting point is 00:25:29 D-A-W-N. Dawn. Dawn. But he was going Dawn. Dawn. Dawn. Dawn. And I was like, it basically just sounded like someone banging on a wall and I had to get him to write it down for me. And that's probably Essex between ports with an Essex. It's not a big fucking change. Isn't it weird? Because you all sound like bloated Southerners to me. But yeah, I do find myself, now I live down here, I do find myself expressing myself
Starting point is 00:25:55 in a slightly Essex-y accent and then sort of resetting a little bit. I am fighting against, I'm fighting against the tide here. There's no, there's no, in the U.S., I mean, just saying, because Nick's email, that's obviously American. There's no real's no equipment in the US, I mean just saying because Nick's email is obviously American, there's no real equivalent in terms of broadness of accents. There obviously is a change in accent wherever you go in the US you can hear the sunshiny part of the
Starting point is 00:26:13 Californian accent obviously the deep south they speak in a different way but there's no equivalent to say trying to understand a broad Glaswegian. Do you know what I mean? It's really really difficult. I would also say like a proper dyed in the wall Geordie is pretty tough because they use a lot of different dialect as well. And we're such a small country as well. That's absolutely wild, isn't it? You've got the road and people say things differently, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Interesting. Oh well. All right. Should we just do one more before we go? Yes. Go on then. This one is from Jamie and it's about psycho-linguistics. He says, I guys enjoyed your language chat the other day. As a linguistic student, thought this might be a rare occasion where I can contribute to the pod.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I share Luke's skepticism about the stories of people able to speak 30 plus languages. But I've heard some pretty believable stories about those who can speak 10 to 15, particularly when they're quite similar. It's worth remembering that a lot of the world, namely in lots of Asian and especially African countries, being multilingual is completely normal. People will very often speak the local language of their ethnic group, a national language and a colonial language like English or French. That's impressive in Europe or the Americas, but a Tanzanian might just shrug their shoulders and think nothing of it. It's a really good point actually, Jamie, I didn't think of it in that way.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And Pete's throwaway comment about needing to cut away the brain to really understand how language works is actually surprisingly accurate. We very often learn about language in the brain through injuries and other problems. One famous case is Tan Tan and the discovery of Broca's aphasia. One day, French doctor Paul Broca found himself with a patient who could only repeat the syllable tan, but could understand speech fine and even had normal intonation, think Hodor from Game of Thrones or Groot from Guardians of the Galaxy. The patient was never cured, but when he died, Broca found damage to a particular part of his frontal lobe, an area that's now called Broca's area.
Starting point is 00:28:07 It's hypothesized that this area is essential to the production but not the comprehension of speech. Other injuries can provoke different reactions, such as an inability to remember the name for things or producing speech but not understanding it. I hope this dip into psycholinguistics was interesting for you guys and keep up the great work, kind regards Jamie. Very interesting stuff Peter. You'd think that other parts of your brain could just lend a hand for crying out loud, like how you can mine Bitcoin on a graphics card even though it's not
Starting point is 00:28:35 designed to do that. Yeah true, they need to step up their game. This sentence particularly reminded me of you Peter, I'll just repeat it. Other injuries can provoke different reactions such as the inability to remember a name for things or producing speech but not understanding it. Yeah, it's hard to... If there's a better way to sign off a Luke and Peter episode I'd love to hear it. I'm looking back to my earliest fall down the stairs.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Fractured skull? I did fracture my skull. How old were you? I'm saying, what if, I don't actually know. Can't remember. Maybe it was my brockers area that was damaged when that happened. Is this related to your mother going up and down the stairs like a snake or is that a separate thing? Well if she'd have taught me that I think I probably would have been alright. What do you reckon?
Starting point is 00:29:23 What I reckon is I have plenty of people even now asking me What does he mean by that? I have to say I don't know. I can't picture how it could even work It's the phrase he's chosen to use but he will not explain it No, yeah. I threw you a couple of card balls on the ramble today and I could see you were doing your very best I think I launched into a Kevin King and Peter Beasley story without setting out precisely the environment in which they could have flourished. But it's fine. I find that part of broadcasting the most exciting thing. It's like a lovely little puzzle isn't it? I'm keeping you young. I wouldn't agree with that part of it but it is like a lovely little puzzle.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Alright then, let's get out of it. We'll be back on Thursday for more battery brands. If you find a battery in something you want to hear from you, hello at lukepeachshow.com, Luke Emuah, and say goodbye to the people. Goodbye to the people, see you next time. Bye, bye. The Luke and Pete Show is a stack production and part of the Acast Creator Network.

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