The Luke and Pete Show - Romance on the dance floor

Episode Date: March 21, 2024

Pete relives his golden days at Oxygen nightclub and gives us the down low on all of his best dance moves. However, Luke investigates the real question: how effective was this in finding romance on th...e dance floor?Elsewhere, after reminiscing about Pete's time playing in a Ska punk band, the lads talk about all things guitars - ever seen one made out of colour pencils or coke bottles? Plus, Luke is insistent that Vans make him cool and Donaldson gives us a much anticipated update on his car.Want to get in touch with the show? Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow. Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Why has nobody done like a video game set in the world of Mark Knopfler in that video? That's a good question. A nice 3D. What's your favourite fact about Mark Knopfler? Oh, I don't know. Many, to be honest. Romeo and Juliet was biographical. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:00:22 That's all I've got. Yeah, he did. He actually, weirdly enough, people think that he grew up in the UK, you know. But actually, he grew up in 15th century Verona. Yeah. Okay, yeah. A lot of his songs were about like Archimedes and stuff.
Starting point is 00:00:43 If you drill them down. A little bit of trivia about Mark Knopfler is that he used to play guitar without a pick didn't he did he is that what
Starting point is 00:00:51 his big thing right I guess so yeah that checks out that impression I did it sounded exactly like that hometown hero
Starting point is 00:01:00 well it does because like a pick a kind of pulled string has a bat has a bat has a bat start yeah where it's hitting the fingerboard or the fretboard fingerboards are violin in it never mind um is it do you think it's a pretty high percentage play start another show by talking about mark not for um that depends on how old people are i mean we we do have an entire section dedicated to batteries
Starting point is 00:01:26 today so I mean if that's not like the very definition of the Facebook page dull men's club I don't know what is to be honest I think middle of the road blues rock we're on this subject Peter I noticed the other day
Starting point is 00:01:40 do you remember this is a bit of a niche one for music people only really, but I mean, you probably have something to say on it. Do you remember a Korg Chaos pad? It's like an effects pad made by the company Korg, K-O-R-G. Yeah, it was released around at the time. There was a lot of people releasing these kind of bleepy, bloopy kind of Japanese pads. Oh late 90s 2000s for me yeah
Starting point is 00:02:07 who did that song new in town she looked a bit like lauren laverne i'll google it while you're talking there was a song called new in town and she was a proponent of this little boots little boots she was a big fan of this kind of like dot matrix kind of like a matrix of like i don't know 50 buttons and it was basically a lot later on though isn't it it was basically a bit a bit of a sequencer she was around that time was he 2005 2009 jesus christ anyway so this thing um it was just interesting to me because when i lived at uni i live with you know this is the biggest cliche going for that period a loud person by the sounds of things you live with a loud person who made loud noises. A louder person? I live with a drum and bass
Starting point is 00:02:46 slash jungle DJ. Right, okay, yeah. Called... Wasn't everybody a drum and bass jungle DJ? Drum and bass was, certainly in Leicester, there was about three
Starting point is 00:02:55 drum and bass DJs who'd brought their decks to... Oh, it was big then? Yeah. This guy was called... What was his name? He was actually called James,
Starting point is 00:03:02 but everyone called him Jekyll. Jekyll. That's quite a cool DJ name, to be fair. I thought so. i thought no no it's 10 out of 10 anyway he had a core chaos pad and he used to use it for all his um because he was actually quite a good scratch dj as well so he used to use it for his stuff yeah and i never thought about that so the moment i moved out i didn't think about that piece of hardware ever again right okay yeah And then the other day I happened to catch a video of the popular beat combo and rock outfit, Devonshire's Muse. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I thought it was a little flirty. Not something I normally partake in, but it happened to be on the television. And the guitar player whose name is... Barry. Singer. Oh, the singer. No, what is his name?
Starting point is 00:03:43 Matt Bellamy. Matt Bellamy, Matt Bellamy. That's right. Yeah. He had a chaos pad somehow attached to his guitar. Nice. Is that how he gets all that? I guess it must be.
Starting point is 00:03:57 And I just thought, I had an amazing pang of nostalgia. I enjoyed the thing I was watching about 8% or 9% more than I normally would. Yeah. And it gave me a little spring in my step. It's the first time I've seen or thought of a chaos pad for a very, very long time indeed. Would you not need... Because you wouldn't have enough room on, say, I don't know, a flying V.
Starting point is 00:04:18 There's just not enough real estate to put a cog pad on there. So you would need to go for something like... You need to go for an old 50ss kind of boogie woogie guitar, wouldn't you? One of those hollow body ones. Ask me how they're spelling the word chaos. Oh, is it K-H-A-O-S?
Starting point is 00:04:34 K-A-O-S-S. Oh, that's too close to... Oh, right. Two S's. You can purchase a chaos pad. A double S there. See what they're doing there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:42 You can purchase a chaos pad. You like it, yeah. You can purchase a chaos pad. A double S there. See what they're doing there. Yeah. You can purchase a Chaos Pad. Yeah. You like it, yeah. You can purchase a Chaos Pad for around £180 now. To be honest, that sounds like it's kept its amount of money that you would expect to pay for such a thing. It's clearly an important piece of work. If you look at the Chaos Pad Wikipedia page, which I've currently got in front of me,
Starting point is 00:05:00 listen to this. You'll like this. Listen to the four artists they list that are well known for using the chaos pad. Coming in number one, Radiohead. Understandable, makes sense. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I could see them doing that.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Number two, the aforementioned Muse. So that's confirmation there. Number three, the hit of an earlier podcast this month, Brian Eno. Okay, yeah. So, so far, so standard. You'd expect all those to be the ones.
Starting point is 00:05:29 You'd think that Brian Eno would be doing everything in post rather than doing live. He'd get Photoshop on it. Cog padding. He's acted to put Photoshop on it, and you would not believe the files he's created. Coming up at number four, the final artist. Interesting what you think about this.
Starting point is 00:05:44 The final artist that is apparently well known as using and endorsing the core Chaos pad. They might be giants. I'm your only friend. I'm not your only friend. I'm a little something. Birdhouse in your soul. I can't see them as being a massive...
Starting point is 00:06:01 They've got no cause to use it. They might have one in the corner of the studio. They've got no cause to use it. They're on the side the corner of the studio. But they've got no course to use it. They're on the side of the map. Blow the dust off that. Yeah. Amazing. I mean, like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:06:09 I don't see them as being massive noise. You'd think it would be like, who's Zach Delaroche's friend? That guy. Tom Morello. Tom Morello. You'd think he'd be getting involved,
Starting point is 00:06:18 but he's probably, he probably doesn't even trust microchips. He probably... No, he's more organic. He's potentiometers and stuff. He's potentiometers and stuff. He's pretty...
Starting point is 00:06:27 He's got a masterclass, which I've seen a bit of. Right. And he's pretty much like break everything in the guitar and amp down to its components. Yeah. Use some pedals,
Starting point is 00:06:36 but actually if you're creative with it and you have a little play around, you don't actually need to do any of that stuff. It's all... Because they were pretty big, weren't they, on the inlay cards of their records. Every single sound you hear on this record is made by guitar, drums, bass and voice.
Starting point is 00:06:49 That's their thing. So I'd be very surprised if he's partaking. No, okay, yeah. Because, I mean, I guess he kind of... Yeah, he will... He'd just be pulling bits of guitar apart and just kind of making the... I bet his hands and trousers are covered in solder.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Just solder everywhere. I reckon he always smells with that smell you get because I've got a really nice valve amp and when you warm it up and play it for a while, it gives you that delicious smell. When I put it in the back of my car to go home again, yeah, burning dust basically, when I get home and I get back in the car a few days later,
Starting point is 00:07:20 the car still smells like that and it is a wonderfully evocative smell. Oh, I'm starting to very much enjoy that stupid car I bought that I haven't been able to drive yet. The mats are absolutely drenched with 20 years of Japanese smoking businessmen and I find, like, but with a bit of shirking back in there as well
Starting point is 00:07:41 and I am addicted to just going over, giving it a little sniff. I'll never need to go to japan again just need to sniff that recipe for success a recipe for success and um i think one of um actually little boots uh songs was called dressed for success i think it might have been anyway it was the yamaha tonori on that i was uh that i was uh yeah give it a google it's like basically like a little sequencer, very simplified and stripped down. Oh, it's similar then. It is actually similar. It's very pretty, and it's very cool looking,
Starting point is 00:08:10 and I imagine they've kept their value as well. 599, released in 2007. The sound that... I bought one once, used it zero times. You said you bought one? I bought a Tenorio on. I am not really a musician, so it was of little use, but I enjoyed pressing the little lights on and off.
Starting point is 00:08:28 That's fair enough. The sound that the Kelspad made was just a kind of... Like that sound. Over the top of things. That's my overriding memory of it. I probably only ever really heard it on one setting or something. The only sort of... Apart from the two guitars that I owned,
Starting point is 00:08:43 which were both... I think one was a Dan Electron and the other one was a just a just a Strat you're coming on a Strat but I think
Starting point is 00:08:50 the only guitar pedal I ever owned was one that was like Boss kind of it's got 60 effects in it effects oh really
Starting point is 00:08:59 and that you know that saw me through six whole gigs as one-eyed Willie rhythm guitarist it would astound you to learn and how many gigs in gigs as one-eyed Willie rhythm guitarist. It would astound you to learn. And how many gigs in total did one-eyed Willie do? He did six.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Oh, so you played... 100% record. You played lead guitar on all of those, did you? I played acoustic... Not acoustic. What do you call it? Rhythm guitar, which is very important in a ska punk band, I would suggest. That's all I'm capable of playing.
Starting point is 00:09:22 which is very important in a ska punk band, I would suggest. That's all I'm capable of playing. The guitar I currently play for those heads listening who care is a Gretsch Electromatic, I think. The Gretsch one's the one, is that like a hollow body, like kind of semi-acoustic? Hollow body, yeah. I haven't got the Bigsby on it. I haven't got the big Bigsby handle on it.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Like the bloke from Rancid, he plays one of those. And are you Brian Setzer? Are you doing a Brian Setzer psychobilly tribute act? I'd very much like to hear that. Regularly when I play with my friends, play some chords that they want to play
Starting point is 00:09:56 over the top of, and then they inevitably move me onto bass. And then they ask me just to sing, and then they ask me to go and get the drinks. Okay, that's fine. It's a nice little kind of But the reason I've got the Bigsby on it,
Starting point is 00:10:08 do you know what a Bigsby is? No, it sounds, I thought that was the assistant from Samsung Galaxy. A little paper clip. I think it is called Bigsby or Bixby.
Starting point is 00:10:17 It's like a big handle that kind of, it's almost like a tremolo handle. Oh yes, they're really chunky and flat aren't they? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:24 They're so chunky that I found that when i had one before i found that it just made the guitar go out of tune all the time i bought never buy one of those um pig nose guitars it's got a speaker inside because um the neck's very short and the um nuts go out of um out of tune very quickly which is disappointing this is the longest cold open we've ever done i like it i I like it I like it bit of guitar chat bit of I like watching
Starting point is 00:10:46 YouTubes where people have made guitars out of like they'll stack up a load of coloured pencils and they'll fill the rest of it
Starting point is 00:10:54 with resin so they'll all sort of like stick together and then they'll basically just sand a guitar out of it
Starting point is 00:11:00 and then build the neck and it looks amazing Jack White does stuff like that have you seen that movie, that documentary movie
Starting point is 00:11:06 It Might Get Loud? Right, no. About guitar players and they go and visit all these different guitar players and I think there's a couple of boring ones in there but they go and see Jack White
Starting point is 00:11:14 in some run down place in the middle of nowhere in the US and they ask him about what guitars he plays and he's like, oh, I'll make you a guitar now and he makes one
Starting point is 00:11:23 with like a coke bottle as a bridge and a couple of bits of wood and a couple of strings it's actually really cool right okay because it's kind of
Starting point is 00:11:29 thing that like does that stay in tune I'll be back in a week's time going Jack this has gone out of tune can you tune it up for me I say that's pretty cool it's the kind of thing
Starting point is 00:11:38 that a 43 year old man like me thinks is cool but everyone else thinks is a little bit sad yeah I've bought a lot of guitars in my time and I'm bad at it I've got no reason to own them but cigar box guitar once that never got delivered did you what a purchase that is i know right how old were you when you bought that um 35 wow wow sorry what are you doing with it wasn't wasn't a cigar box. It was an oil can.
Starting point is 00:12:06 You know those old oil cans? Oh, that's not as good. They're big. But the reason... I'll tell you something now. I'm sure you're better on the guitar than I am. I bet you I'm not. But if you're not very good, the reason you're not very good
Starting point is 00:12:14 is because your personality doesn't lend itself to endless practice doing the same thing over and over again. Correct, yeah. That's what you basically do. Yeah, if I've not mastered it, I'm completely... Yeah, you get impatient. I got good at the guitar two years after the band disbanded. And I remember thinking, I should have tried harder.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Reform them. Reform them. Reform them. Get them involved. Would there be any interest in the Leicester area for a reformed One-Eyed Willie? Well, it's hard to say. I mean, I'd have to talk to any agents in the area
Starting point is 00:12:40 who'd remember it fondly. Because I can't imagine many people do. I'm, of course, joking. I'm of course joking. Sometimes the public don't know what they need though, do they? No, they don't know what they've got
Starting point is 00:12:52 until it's gone. Absolutely. Did you do any of your own original songs? Yeah. What were they called? Some of them are quite offensive so I won't go into some of them.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Oh, were you like a Mac Lads type band? Almost like a kind of, you know, like a half man, half biscuit type operation, but punk? Yeah, kind of. But also I think it's,
Starting point is 00:13:11 I think times have changed and we're not in the attitude era of WWE and we're not watching jackass all day. So some of the titles are a bit offensive. And well, it was called Johnny Pornovision about a friend who could see pornography where other people would just see
Starting point is 00:13:28 normal stuff oh so there's a bit of viz about it bit of viz about it yeah Johnny viz energy was it yeah I had a bit of viz energy
Starting point is 00:13:34 yeah it was good I enjoyed it it was fun could you so if Jackass like reformed Jackass
Starting point is 00:13:40 right yeah and they need someone to do that at the start who better than the one I would do that who better yeah there's guys online who do punk versions of everything and they're all really good
Starting point is 00:13:54 and stuff but they're brilliant those guys are amazing yeah they are really good but it is after a while you sort of go why am I not bored of this have I got a brain injury like why am I why do I want to hear more from these lads because
Starting point is 00:14:07 if you'd have existed if you'd have existed in the mid noughties sorry the noughties basically yeah 2000 I would have been that would have been my favourite band
Starting point is 00:14:15 I just want to hear people doing covers of other songs in different styles it's what I live for the old what if this was pop punk
Starting point is 00:14:24 yeah all that I love all that the guys you're talking about who do that thing in that really posh studio they sound and present themselves as so slick and they can do basically pop punk versions of every single song it makes it makes you my love for pop punk and just punk in general that third generation california punk kind of bollocks yeah it makes me feel like I have
Starting point is 00:14:48 very low ideas about what constitutes art you know what I mean I just sort of think if I mean these guys
Starting point is 00:14:56 are doing this so effortlessly this can't be very hard this has to be quite formulaic actually and you don't want to and you're not someone who wants to be listening to Dead Kennedys
Starting point is 00:15:05 or Bad Brains or anything kind of too full on. Cool. Too cool. You want to find it. The murder needs to be there. As tough as I get, the toughest I get are, like, the Bouncing Souls and Face to Face, who are quite melodic.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Oi, oi, punkers. What about Minor Threat? Minor Threat are all right, but they're angry. They're very angry, Luke. They don't need to be so angry. They don't want to take any drugs, and more than that, they don't want you to be taking any drugs. By the way, and if those of you there listening to this thinking,
Starting point is 00:15:32 what kind of authority has Luke got to talk about this kind of stuff? I mean, what he's talking about, what's his qualifications? I'll tell you my qualifications. At the moment, as I sit here, I'm wearing a pair of Vans socks. Oh, socks. Hang on. How do they kind of work? Where do you get them work? What are you...
Starting point is 00:15:45 Where do you get them from? I can't... Where? Kind... I mean, the poor core deck that Riverside, the recording studio, chooses to use means that I can't really make out...
Starting point is 00:15:56 There you go. I can see Vans. It's fair. I can see Vans. But I'm watching you... That's my qualifications. I'm watching you on a very small monitor because my big monitor is some...
Starting point is 00:16:03 It's just decided to not be a monitor anymore. I'm just looking at a black bit of plastic. I think that's absolutely fair enough. Even if an Alienware £1,000 monitor with HDR wants to just suddenly decide to not do anything, I think it should
Starting point is 00:16:19 be allowed to, to be honest. Before I come on to that, because I think you do on this kind of stuff, on this hardware stuff, you you like to over complicate things because you just get so into it i just don't think you take a step back quickly enough no it's true i get so excited about something and i was like well this is the only option for me yeah i have to pay a thousand pounds for a screen i have before we get on to that though can i just say that i happened across um the the the music videos for both Alien Ant Farms movies
Starting point is 00:16:48 and Alien Ant Farms cover of Smooth Criminal the other day. Right. Which I mean... I remember movies. Yeah, I remember those too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And the lead singer has got such peak Donaldson energy, it's unreal. Well, he's got a shaved head and he's in his 20s. That's how I live my life. No, but his mannerisms and stuff. Right. He's got a shaved head and he's in his 20s. That's how I live my life. No, but his mannerisms and stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Right. He's got real white man kind of dancey. He dances like the whitest man alive, even though I think he might be Latino. If I had known you back in that era, he dances exactly like you would dance then. There's a moment in the Smooth Criminal video where he grabs hold of somebody's belt
Starting point is 00:17:28 and lowers them down, like Michael Jackson in that video. And I did that every Saturday night, without fail, for 10 years after I saw that. 10 years. What happens if a Saturday fell on Christmas Day? I'd be doing it.
Starting point is 00:17:44 My mum would get it My mum would get it I'm not even wearing a belt, Pete That's brilliant, man How would you describe your dancing style back in the 2000s? It's just
Starting point is 00:17:57 It has been for the longest time I just do this and I pat my chest like a wolf of Wall Street and you'll get the white man over by as well like that it's uh do you lack the moral fiber to commit to proper dancing no no i'll get down to it if um when i used to listen when i get down to it oh you're in for a treat here everyone i used to listen to, when we used to go to hip-hop
Starting point is 00:18:25 nights, when we'd listen to Limp Bizkit and then sort of, what else is out there? What other white man rappers are out there? I would wear a big dot and I'd put my hand over my head, over the back of my head and just do this.
Starting point is 00:18:44 That's another one you can have for free. And sort of kick my legs out like from behind me in my baggy jeans. Did you think it was cool at the time or were you trying to undermine the whole thing? You know what?
Starting point is 00:18:55 It was because of a man called Justin Staten who was very attractive to women back then. He did that and so, well, if that's the way to do it. Turns out it's not.
Starting point is 00:19:04 You have to be quite handsome and tall. Everyone listens to this and goes, I can't see this, I don't know what he's doing. I'm looking at him and I don't know what he's doing
Starting point is 00:19:12 so don't worry about that. So you wouldn't, but you wouldn't just, because most people would probably say, and I'm by no means an expert here, but most people
Starting point is 00:19:19 would probably say, the best way to get stuck into the dancing is probably just to get in the middle of the dance floor, let your inhibitions go and just give it some. are you standing on the side being quite self-conscious about it or are you right in there uh no i'm looking i'm trying to catch a glimpse of myself in a mirror to sort of okay to there my inhibition man is in the mirror and i'm asking him to change
Starting point is 00:19:40 his ways yeah and i'm looking at him i'm going what are you fucking doing what are you doing you know what it's not as offensive as some other dancing that other people are doing like just keep doing this well they're just doing they're just doing leaping around and stuff aren't they and like obviously your kind of music when a lot of people will be skanking wouldn't they yeah exactly because you'd have three kinds of dances at Oxygen Nightclub in the mid-naughties or early naughties. You'd have the hip hop dance for your last episode, next episode. And you'd have...
Starting point is 00:20:14 What's your hip hop dance then? Well, I've told you. Big hat, put your hand behind your head. Oh, that's your hip hop dance? Yeah. Sorry. You're really into it. Simon Says Get The Fuck Up
Starting point is 00:20:25 All that business right Yeah And then And then They'd burst into Less Than Jake All My Best Friends Are Metal Heads Then it's The Skank
Starting point is 00:20:33 Bit of Real Big Fish Maybe some Sir Ferris in there as well Elbows out No it's just like Leaning back on No I can't work Get fast food all your life All that one And then And then You'd sash in to Then it'd be like da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da- of the night it would just be in rotation i mean they'd always end the night with um uh it's some radio machine but yeah it's it's it's all quite tragic uh luke and uh you know it was a great deal it was it was the the music was very much secondary uh for for me to try and find some romance
Starting point is 00:21:17 uh which evaded me every single time um but what was your um what was your kind of how would you segue from your dance in whatever genre of dance? Never happened. Never happened. But what do you mean by never happened? Never happened. What do you mean by that? Friday, Saturday, went out to the same place.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Never happened. I promise you, it may be, if you did it right. So how many weeks is there in a year? So say there's 45 weeks you could legitimately go to the auction nightclub in leicester right and and so we did it nearly 100 times a year because we went friday saturday sometimes thursday on metal night um and so it'd be metal night thursday uh sort of uh it'd be like sort of new metal night friday and then there'd be like a bit of a mix on the side you're going to new metal night you're not put off whatever the music is. Whatever it is, I'm going.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Like, whatever it is, I'm going. Right? And we're there. On your own? No, no, no. Who's the crew? A cabal of three. Johnny Polar Vision, obviously.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Sexy Justin. And you. And Ginger Mark. Who played Pierce and won at Willie. And so, like, we all went. And so, say it's nearly 100 times a year, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I promise you, I found romance on the dance floor maybe five times in four years. Five times in four years. My hit rate is less than... It's not even Sherlock and me or BS. It is... I am... So, I know
Starting point is 00:22:46 what I look like I could not I could not be clearer on how fucking unattractive I am and so I know
Starting point is 00:22:56 I'm never gonna have an affair like I've told my partner I've said the odds are against it the odds are against it because
Starting point is 00:23:03 it's not it's not... It's never happening. No one's ever going to go, who's that guy? Are we smart or what? So it's kind of like... So I find...
Starting point is 00:23:13 So that's why I find the idea of having a... I was talking about this to Sarah. We were talking about so-and-so. Apparently he's had an affair with whoever, right? And I'm like, isn't it funny when older people have affairs on the male side of things? Because it's like men just want... Just the idea of a man in his 40s, 50s going,
Starting point is 00:23:37 I just wanted to feel sexy. It's so childish, isn't it? It's so childish. I just want to properly crunch the numbers on this. We go back to... I'll never feel sexy. That's the point. That's my point.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I think there's probably times when you have felt. I've seen you before in your pomp, dressing as you do, and you get it right. When I get it right... It's like Hayley's Comet. It's spectacular. It's rare.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And people are pointing. But if we go back to I'm doing that I've got my hand around my head if we go back to Oxford Nightclub you've got four years so you're basically going the best part of 400 visits yeah
Starting point is 00:24:17 are you telling me honestly honestly it's under 10 it's under 10 and it sounds quite gaucho sort of trapping off whatever but you it's i'm only i'm only mentioning it because here i was like like 1920 like here i was that age and also i'm only mentioning it because it's funny that i kept going and that
Starting point is 00:24:39 was very much part of my motivation if that sense. What kind of stories would you tell yourself about why you were coming up with another blank? I think a couple of hours in, you go, this, I'm not, this is not for me. And then you just go blind drunk
Starting point is 00:24:57 and forget that that's happened, don't you? What I'm interested in, I think, more importantly, what our listeners will be interested in, I think,
Starting point is 00:25:02 is the idea that you've said yourself, you'll go in there, you'll go in there. You'll go in there for that reason. Your tactics are your tactics, and that's really not for me to judge, but you're embarking upon a set of tactics that you hope is going to deliver you an outcome. Yeah. If you got on the dance floor doing one of your moves and you caught the eye of someone that you quite liked,
Starting point is 00:25:23 they looked at you and thought that they kind of quite liked you. My question is merely, what transition do you employ? How does that sashay from one thing to another? It may have only happened 1% of times. The hit rate may be abysmal in your own words, but it did happen occasionally. So what was the tactic that worked? What did you employ to make it happen?
Starting point is 00:25:46 I didn't make it happen. It happened to me. I was a bystander in the whole situation. So yeah, that's it really. That's the whole thing. Right. Do you want to say this is, you should be able to see me at Oxygen Nightclub. That's what I look like.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I think you looked all right. I think you look pretty handsome. Yeah. Good jaw's what I look like. I think you looked alright. I think you look pretty handsome. Yeah. Good jawline. I'm 18. I'm 18. And who's the guy on the right? Is that the Sexy Justin guy? That's the Sexy Justin guy. Yeah, I can see that. And who are the two in the background? Gernon. Not Gernon. The next to a three-quarter or
Starting point is 00:26:19 no, one-quarter half-pipe that Red Bull installed some years before. why is there a cargo net behind you to stop the skateboards flying out and hitting people in the face that's johnny parlor vision in the background um but yeah that's very much um but but they installed like a sort of um a skateboarding uh quarter pipe and people would skate on it um but like they would a always hurt B, they would never repair it, so there'd be a big hole where the actual truck
Starting point is 00:26:49 hit the actual quarter pipe, and it would just get worse and worse in a larger state of distress repair every year. Not during the nightclub happening? Yeah. So you'd get as pissed as you want and go and skateboard? Not even any rules about glass people would would be drinking swigging from bottles of new key brown while going up and down
Starting point is 00:27:09 i don't know how the public liabilities insurance worked but there was broken glass everywhere this is a this is a halcyon period yeah massively you could smoke it everyone was smoking indoors everyone was on like skateboarding with a bottle of New Key Brown, pissed out their minds. It just had everything. It had a little bit of everything. It's like the lot... It's like that... It's like that bit in the lost...
Starting point is 00:27:30 Like, when... In Hook, where the lost boys go and smoke cigars. Like that. Mm. Just like that. All right,
Starting point is 00:27:36 shall we take a short advertorial break, Lukey Moore? Yeah. All right. We'll be back in a bit. Did you ever get upset when you got home
Starting point is 00:27:44 and you were on your own and sexy Justin was doing this thing in the room next door? Yeah, probably, but, you know, just get blind drunk. It's not big or clever. It's just what happened. Yeah, fair enough. This is Pete's truth. It doesn't have to be your truth, everyone listening.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Yeah, should have gone on drugs. Let's do some batteries then, Peter. You lead as usual and we'll see where we go. Okay, then. Hello, chaps. Long-time listener, many- gone on drugs. Let's do some batteries then, Peter. You lead as usual. All right. Okay, then. Hello, chaps. Long-time listener, many-time emailer. Please find for your perusal the attached picture. Due to having three boys of various ages living under my roof,
Starting point is 00:28:16 I find it necessary to purchase a new TV for the living room after our old one had a football smacked of it. Classic. Yes. Imagine my glee when the remote had three triple-A batteries. Keep up the good work, and I'm loving Pete's new car. Andrew, J-A-Y-T, battery, super heavy duty battery, 0% mercury cadmium, which seems... Is that a boast, having nothing of something?
Starting point is 00:28:39 I've never heard anyone say the word cadmium like that before. What's cadmium? What, because I did a burp in the middle of it? Cadmium. Cadmium like that before. What's cadmium? What, because I did a burp in the middle of it? Cadmium. Cadmium. Weirdly enough, if I had to put some money on whether this was a new player or not, I would say absolutely not. I feel like I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I feel like I've seen it. But according to my extensive check and my bulletproof, watertight records, it is, in fact, a brand new player. Round of applause. Beautiful. Beautiful. Fantastic stuff. Good start. Well done to you, Andrew. And of applause. Beautiful. Beautiful. Fantastic stuff. Good start.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Well done to you, Andrew. And sorry about your TV, mate. Mind you, these days, electronics are pretty affordable. True. I mean, if your kids smacked a football off the TV in 1997,
Starting point is 00:29:18 that's setting you back thousands. Is it? They were still quite... You'd get it repaired as well, wouldn't you? Could you put your tube in? Yeah, that's the thing. You'd have to get it repaired as well, though, wouldn't you? Could you put your tube in? Yeah, that's the thing. You'd have to get it repaired.
Starting point is 00:29:28 But I'm saying to you now, the price of TVs now is extraordinary compared to what it used to be. Certainly. All right. Ben says, Hello, chaps. My effort this week to claim the ultimate in battery fame.
Starting point is 00:29:40 A first time on the Lukey and Pete battery list. I found this at work. I can't decide whether it's a tano c or tamo c but at least it's a new one for me uh first photo is from the office window a toy truck is a model of the real ones we develop difficult to read the name uh so i took the second photo on uh the only slightly interesting background i could find ben is working with what he's got he's given us a little toy truck that looks amazing and some I think some kind of some kind of milk some kind of milk product I think yeah da do cut a corner sir neat tour you try to try to read the bit
Starting point is 00:30:19 that's underneath the underneath the the kanji there's like a little kind of how British people would say whatever that is. You're not going to be able to read it, are you? I could probably read it if I'm in the chart. Because you've got a key
Starting point is 00:30:30 with a few characters that you look at sometimes. You're not going to read Japanese. Oh yeah, remember that? That didn't work. Anyway, regardless of whether it's Tam-o-see or Tan-o-see with an N,
Starting point is 00:30:40 I think it's Tan-o-see actually. Either way, it's a brand new player. Okay, cracking. We're finding them. We're still finding them all Tanose, actually. Either way, it's a brand new player. Okay, cracking. We're finding them. We're still finding them all the time, everyone. Lovely stuff. Well, thank you, Ben, in Saitama. Lovely part of the world.
Starting point is 00:30:54 G'day, look at the peak. This is Andrew, also from Japan. I'm coming at you with a new player fresh off the grill. I present to you Iris Oyama, Big Kappa Prime. Wow. Found these babies at my local supermarket, tucked away Prime. Wow. Found these babies at my local supermarket tucked away in a corner.
Starting point is 00:31:07 If these get it it'll be my fourth new player. That's got to be some kind of record Andrew from Japan. Big Kappa Prime. So I'm going to read from you Peter on this.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Right. So Andrew has sent in Iris Oyama Big Kappa Prime. Yeah. Which we haven't seen before. Okay. But on the 8th of September
Starting point is 00:31:23 of 2022 our friend joe who was also in um japan at the time found some straight big kappa primes so right it depends whether you you accept it as a different brand entirely or whether you see it as a variation of a brand that we've already seen big kappa prime has to be i mean mean, did the original append a photograph? Yes. Well, can we see what the photograph... Do they look exactly the same? No, they don't look the same.
Starting point is 00:31:52 These are blue and gold. Okay, okay. Whereas Andrews are kind of... Also blue and gold. Oh, they are, yeah. I think it's the same battery, personally. I think it's the same battery. All right, well, we definitely can't know.
Starting point is 00:32:02 We've had photographic evidence, to be honest. It's a no. Don't darken our door again Andrew well please do he's on for a four I don't like the
Starting point is 00:32:11 fact it leaves me rather unsettled that in the packet they've got the terminals the positive terminals at the bottom rather than the
Starting point is 00:32:20 top yeah that seems odd to me that's very very disconcerting don't like it but anyway look that's how it goes sometimes I find that unsettling. That's very, very disconcerting. Don't like it. I don't like that either. But anyway, look, that's how it goes sometimes. Keep them coming in. Before we move on very, very quickly,
Starting point is 00:32:30 just get a sense check from you, Peter. Daniel's been in touch saying, guys, with the chat about AI art and picture generation on last Thursday's episode, do you have any concerns regarding AI-generated photos, especially in terms of listeners' battery submissions? Could this undermine the integrity
Starting point is 00:32:45 of everything you've worked so hard to build hopefully you'll be able to resolve this problem for all humanity so what daniel's basically asking peter is that look anyone could go on to some ai software and generate some brand new batteries and it would look real yeah what's how do we deal with that very very modern problem to this section of the show. That's a good point, actually. I mean, I don't think we have any sort of massive lines in the sand right now, but I think that we... I mean, what we... I mean, let's just say
Starting point is 00:33:13 that we are completely against AI in all of its forms in the Luke and Petrie battery section. But if an AI company, your darlies of this world of this world, want to license our hard-fought and hard-won collection of battery pictures, they can. So it all depends on whether we've got skin in the game.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Would you say you are individually confident in being able to identify an AI-generated picture of a battery? You know what? Yeah, yeah. Fine, then we're all good. We're on safe ground, everyone. You can relax and sleep easy in your beds
Starting point is 00:33:46 because the best man in the world is on it. Thank you. All right. Cool. All right. Let's get out of here. All right. We have been The Luke and Pete Show.
Starting point is 00:33:53 If you've got a battery for us, hello at lukeandpeteshow.com. Check us out on the old socials, if you fancy it, at Luke and Pete Show on Twitter and Insta. And The Luke and Pete Show on TikTok. I wonder, were those other guys who had Luke and Pete show,
Starting point is 00:34:07 were they on Luke and Pete show TikTok before us? Yeah, they're quite big on TikTok, aren't they? Fuckers. Absolute professional fuckers. Yeah, they're wankers though. They're not actually that good. So I wouldn't worry about it. You're not going to get any of the kind of chat
Starting point is 00:34:20 that we just had given our listeners there for half an hour. I mean, come on. That's a good point. Be realistic. All right then, We'll be back very soon. Monday, in fact. Bye.
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