The Luke and Pete Show - The dog review
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We're back with a look at Pete's show
It is Monday the 6th of March
And from Thursday's show
From the 2nd of March
We've promised so much in this show
A review of a new dog
We're going to review
The musical theatre production
Bat Out of Hell,
which is back in London.
Yeah, you went to go see it.
I forgot about that.
I did, yeah.
People don't review their own dog.
That's just not something that happens.
No, no.
Overall, four out of ten.
Regret it.
Yeah, indeed.
Goodness.
All right, so what do you want to do first?
Let's do Bat Out of Hell
because it's the quickest.
Terrible, terrible performance.
Who plays the titular character?
So, sorry, not terrible performance.
Terrible play.
Awful.
Terrible.
Wonderful cast doing wonderful things with a terrible play.
Like, absolutely atrocious play.
Wonderful cast.
Worth watching.
Worth sitting through the first half,
because the second half really picks up AK,
because they've got the good songs in the back end,
as of course they would do.
But yeah, the cast were just getting through
some absolutely tawdry shit in the first half, certainly.
Tawdry.
So describe, if you wouldn't mind,
in a log-lying style, a sentence or two,
what it's actually about.
I think it's like flash dance in the rock future.
It's like Andy from The Office US,
he decides he's going to create a musical theatre show
when he's fired from The Office
and the guy
flies through space,
the lead singer
and performer
on a big treble clef.
It's a bit that.
It's like that really
but using Meatloaf's music.
I mean,
it's atrocious
but the cast
are so good
you don't mind.
I was sat in front
of Kevin Eldon
and I would very much
like to wonder.
It was press night.
It was opening night
so it was just
tickets
tickets galore
because they're
not in the centre
of town anymore
now they're in
I can't remember
which theatre
it's theatre in
like Holborn
sort of way
the sort of
theatre we'd play
to be honest
the Ramblers
oh get fucked
but they've
clearly like
had to cut down
and make decisions
about what
parts of the set
it's a touring set
effectively
because they've been
all around the world
they've been in New Zealand so you know Adam Durrell of the set it's a touring set effectively because they've been all around the world they've been in New Zealand
so you know
Adam Durrell
of the offensive
Boom fame
yes
so you know
he's like a
very good
like touring
singer
and
stage actor
really
that's amazing
I didn't know that
so he was one
I think he was
maybe Frankie Valli
in Jersey Boys nice that's amazing and he's one, I think he was maybe Frankie Valli in Jersey Boys.
Nice!
That's amazing!
And he's done,
what else has he done?
Loads of stuff.
And he would definitely do this.
And honestly,
the thing about it is,
and you touched on something there,
like,
to give us our dues, Peter,
last time we played London,
we had to do a sold-out
Sheppard's Bush Empire.
I mean, it's not terrible.
It's not bad.
Yeah.
But when you see these guys
doing it,
it's proper talent, right? That's what it feels like you're in you're in you're in the presence of such obvious talent
right yeah and with with adam it's funny because you know i see him quite a bit socially he's a
good friend of mine and i sometimes like forget how good he is at stuff and yeah obviously you
know me i'm always fucking showing off and singing and all that kind of stuff
and it's genuinely
very humbling
when I make the accidental mistake
of like singing a line
from something
and then he comes in
and I'm like
alright
fuck you now
it's basically like
doing a keepy up
in front of like
a professional football player
like why would you ever do that
like it's
so I totally get the
the talent
I've often felt the same
when I've been to see a musical
but what I would say is this.
I'm never going to see Bat Out of Hell the musical.
No.
But what I am going to tell you is that just by the names of the characters,
it's obviously awful.
Oh, yeah.
The lead guy's called Strat.
I forgot about that.
Fuck off.
Raven, Falco, Jaguar.
Yeah. It's not great, Falco, Jaguar. Yeah.
It's not great,
is it?
Valkyrie.
It's basically,
everyone's just,
it's like the Lost Boys
from Hook
and they're the naughty
boys who like rock music
and then the girl
from the right side
of the tracks
falls in love
with the wrong side
of the track
and it's just,
it's just classic fare.
Strat is listed as
the eccentric
and forever 18-year-old
leader of the lost,
a group of teenagers whose DNA was frozen at 18,
causing them to remain young forever.
All right, Jim Steinman.
Just go to the doctor if you can't get a fucking hard-on anymore.
Jesus.
It's a midlife crisis of a fucking musical.
I mean, that lad is very good and he's got a good body,
but he's nowhere approaching 18. He's nowhere just out of, that lad is very good and he's got a good body, but he's nowhere approaching it, Dean.
He's nowhere just out of his short trousers.
Good God.
No.
I remember when it first came out,
Meatloaf was doing the red carpet at the Q Awards
and I interviewed Meatloaf and the lead guy from it.
God rest him, by the way.
When it first launched.
Yeah, yeah.
Big loss.
You know, these songs are just fucking incredible.
Costs they are.
But, yeah, I mean, just an atrocious, atrocious player. I think Stymond Roy are just fucking incredible. Costs they are. But yeah,
I mean,
just an atrocious,
atrocious play.
I think Steinman wrote it.
I think,
yeah,
awful,
awful stuff.
You know,
famously,
yeah,
it's a Steinman musical.
You know,
the famous one
about people being
a lot older
than they're supposed to be.
The best ever one
is Grease.
Fucking hell.
Kenickie.
Jeff Conaway plays Kenickie.
I think he was 28 and it was being made.
And the thing is...
And he looked...
It was like 80s.
He looked every day of that.
Yeah.
That's the thing,
wasn't it?
Back then,
like,
I don't know what it is,
but like,
just blocks
had heavier features.
They just had bigger noses
and bigger ears
and just bigger.
It was bigger.
The longer ago it was,
the older men were
when they were young
so Marcus always says
oh yeah
you can never imagine
like Bruce Forsyth
being young
or Michael Parkinson
Savile
all about
but you sort of look at
where's Savile come from
where's Savile come from
like Leonardo DiCaprio
he's obviously
criticised for
sorry
let me make this
very clear
of age
but considerably younger than him, women, right?
Oh yeah, that'll save us a legal letter.
That'll save you.
Well done.
Just hold tight.
I'll get there in the end.
Allow me to be clear.
Allow me to clarify.
Yeah.
And he's always kind of criticized for very much
not the half the age plus seven business.
The thing about, so what you wanted to say was,
Leonardo,
people have noticed a passion.
Don't clean up my mess.
You're coming down with me,
big man.
I would like to separate myself
and distance myself by saying,
a lot of people have noticed
there's a trait
that as soon as a girl hits 25,
Leonardo DiCaprio
suddenly doesn't appear
that interested in them anymore.
He would prefer a girlfriend
who is very much of age,
of course,
but 25 appears to be the upper limit
of what he'll consider.
And the meme that I enjoyed
about this most recent episode
that Leo's been involved in
is a picture of Leonardo DiCaprio's ex-girlfriend
next to a picture of his current girlfriend.
And I forget it, I'm paraphrasing it,
but it was something along the lines
of his ex-girlfriend saying,
I'm the youngest,
I'm the youngest girl
to go out with her
near the Caprio
and someone else saying,
hold my beer.
Oh, I can't.
I can't.
Yeah.
Good stuff.
Good, please listen.
At least we didn't muddle
our way through that one.
That's the main thing.
That was very, very good broadcasting.
We were clear, we were concise.
It was just good stuff.
It was good stuff.
Two out of three are bad,
as we said. Anyway, the dog. Do the dog now. Do were clear, we were concise. It was just good stuff. It was good stuff. Two out of three ain't bad, as we said.
Anyway, the dog.
Do the dog now.
Do the dog.
Dog's arrived.
It's a bit of a dream dog.
I don't know what all this
crate training business is all about.
He goes outside.
He does a wee.
He's done a couple of poos inside.
Fine.
But I'm not rewarding him for that.
But he's pretty good.
He's just sort of like
cutting around the place.
He's just having a nice time.
I assumed he'd be screaming in the night
because I am very much
a pessimist
I thought he'd be
screaming
to be honest for Sarah
anything that drowns mine
screams out
but yeah he's a dog
that like
yeah just
how old is he?
just a really chill dog
ten weeks I think
and how's Lola
dealing with it?
Lola's not in the house at the moment,
but that's a job
for another day. Right, so you've got to remove
Lola to bring in
Sammy? No, the cycle, because
it's shared ownership stewardship,
so it's in
rotation. That's why we got a dog, because
it sucks to not have a dog in the house, because dogs
are cool. So what's Lola going to do when she
comes back, do you think?
I could kill it, probably can't say that probably kill him probably tear his throat out probably no come on be serious it's gonna be a long road it is gonna
be a long road i know that but i mean i just hope that there's some part of her doggy brain that
goes he's not a threat he He's 10 weeks old. Yeah.
I might not kill this one.
Because she'll go for anything. Don't say this one.
That implies heavily that she's killed before.
She'll be fine.
She'll be fine.
We'll sort it out.
So Elsie had a dog.
Has a dog.
Sorry.
Has a dog.
Aspen is a bit older.
A rescue dog.
And then the wife I have access to's sister
could no longer look...
Who's Elsie, by the way?
Sorry, have I missed Elsie?
Aspen.
Oh, Elsie!
Sorry, I didn't Elsie.
Elsie.
I thought you were bringing some good call,
Elsie, into the mix.
The great Elsie.
Elsie, yeah.
I've got dog Aspen.
And then the wife I have access to's sister
could no longer look after her dog
because her circumstances changed.
So Elsie and obviously
my mother-in-law
took on the younger, smaller
Wicket.
And they get on like a house on fire, mate.
They love it. They're great.
They're great guns. It's fine.
They'll be fine. I reckon she'll be quite motherly towards
the little man. The big pals.
The only time I see any kind of bone of contention
is when Aspen steals Wicket's treat, daily treat.
Right.
And Wicket's too small to do anything about it.
Yeah.
You've got to be very careful about which dog eats first and stuff.
Right.
You know what I mean?
It's a whole pack thing.
And if she's the leader of the pack,
she's got to eat first,
she's got to walk
in front of everybody.
So,
it's all,
you know,
she's got to be the,
be the queen.
And was that what she was like
when Buckley was around?
No,
no,
no,
not really.
Well,
she was,
but like,
only because he was an old,
old dog,
but yeah,
it's fascinating,
the whole dynamic
and we'll sort it out,
but it's,
yeah,
that'll take some work,
but this, this part seems to be a bit of a dream so i'd like to um bring a puppy into our house at some point we've got two older cats though yeah you'll be all right i mean i mean
the cat i mean i think puppies what they need is uh they need a they need a raking across the face
so exactly so cats would so cats would uh you, I'd probably err on the side of a slightly larger dog,
but, yeah, the cats would put it into line, I think.
So, you'll keep us posted about how things are going, right?
Yes, we'll do, yeah.
I'll tell you where the poops have happened,
where I'm sort of quite good at sort of following them around in the garden
and when he does a poo or a wee,
celebrating like it's the best thing ever
and giving him
a bit of chicken
he's eating a lot of like
they say like
they said
they were fed
because he came off a farm
and they were feeding it
raw chicken
it's like that's a bit wee
isn't it
raw chicken
you mean an actual farm
not a puppy farm
no no no no
farm farm
like with horses
it's a pedigree dog right
you've got the stuff
you've got everything
it's a pedigree dog
yeah it is
it's a great start
but like pedigree have you seen like pedigree names so far I You've got the certificate and everything, haven't you? It's a pedigree dog, yeah. It's a great start. But like pedigree,
have you seen like pedigree
names so far?
I think I shared the name.
Yeah, they're really long.
It's really weird.
It's like that
what three words thing.
Yeah, it's just
a unique identifier.
But it's just an aristocratic
thing, isn't it?
You look at some names
of some aristocratic people.
Dogs are like that as well.
They've got a lot
of aristocratic bloodline,
haven't they?
Yeah.
It's weird, isn't it?
It's weird to think
they're all descended
from basically the same animal
because they all look so different.
Yeah, I don't know.
Because you can kind of,
you can get a,
just the idea,
I don't know how mechanically
that works.
Like mixing a sausage dog
with a much bigger terrier
or something.
I can't figure out
how that comes about,
how mechanically that works.
So you know, an interesting piece of trivia is that
if you take every human being of race, colour, creed, whatever,
across the world,
human beings as a species are so similar
that if you transpose it across to a dog,
they'd all be exactly the same breed.
Oh, really? That's fascinating.
Yeah, because if you think of the diversity of appearance in dogs like an irish wolfhound we'd be like a little
chihuahua or something like yeah humans would basically all fit within one singular breed and
there wouldn't be much deviation even within that breed human beings so like the so like the the
border terriers you've got like kind of like sandy looking ones you've got black and tan you've got
different kinds of kind of colors of of of fur You've got black and tan. You've got different kinds of colors of fur, effectively,
but they all look pretty the same.
Yeah.
So the diversity in humans.
It's fascinating.
Genetically, they're very, very similar all around the world.
Peter, before we go to a break,
and when we come back, we'll do a couple of emails,
I just really want to say hello to Gav,
who got in touch and said that since we talked about it
a week or so ago, he hired his first lime bike.
He's a limey boy. He's a Limey boy.
He's a Limey boy now.
Gav, how did he get on?
He said, you can tell your paymasters at Big Lime
that your propaganda show last week worked.
I've had a lovely time in Hyde Park.
I took two yesterday.
Love it.
Two Lime bikes.
Love that.
Great to see.
On Friday, just gone, I rode a Lime bike to the pub,
had three pints of
lager with two of
my friends, and then
to my absolute joy,
at about 10 o'clock,
wandered outside
the pub, about to
embark upon a fairly hazardous
walk through Clapham on a Friday night,
and lo and behold,
Peter, the self same
line bike was still parked outside
and you hopped on it
and took yourself home
the rest is history
I would like to say
you may have criticised me for possibly getting
ourselves in legal hot water
regarding the Leonardo DiCaprio situation
but you
I believe, that's over the limit, isn't it?
Three pints?
No, it's not.
You have to just do a little test.
The app gives you a test.
Right.
If you pass the test,
you're legally allowed to jump on the bike.
I'm telling you, try it.
It does it.
What's the test?
It's like a hazard test
that you get in your driving test.
Really?
What, if you get on a lineback
after a certain time on a party day, it asks you to pass a test so that you get any driving test really what if you get on a line back after a certain time on a party day
yeah
it asks you to pass
a test
yep
so that you're not
drunk
ask me if I passed
it
that is fascinating
well presumably
because you got to
hire it
nah I booted the
lock off
I just booted the
lock off
I've fucking taken
it
went to the
man behind the
bar
can you do this
for me
you don't want me
to stay in this
bar
nah it was fine
it was absolutely
fine mate
I wasn't drunk.
I was perfectly sensible.
Let's have a break while we contemplate our futures.
And when we come back, we'll do an email.
We've got a couple here.
We've got one from Josh, one from Matt.
There's loads, actually.
I won't read people's names out.
We'll get to them eventually.
But we've got a couple of emails to do.
And we'll do them the other side of this.
We're back with a Luke and Pete show.
We did a ramble show
a few days ago
about,
well,
it was last week,
wasn't it?
About Eric Cantona,
Luke,
about the Kung Fu King.
Yeah,
I wasn't on it.
No,
and I,
so I'm bringing you
into the fold,
and I said that I thought
It was my idea to do it,
by the way.
Okay.
I thought it was a really good idea.
Did you enjoy it?
Cool.
It was alright, yeah.
That was a rigging endorsement. Day after Wednesday, I was a really good idea. Did you enjoy it? Cool. It was alright, yeah. That was a rigging endorsement.
Day after Wednesday.
I was a bit sad.
Could have done without recording.
No, we were in.
We did it.
And I thought that... I seem to recall that the Eric Cantona Kung Fu Kick
was featured on the cover of the Super 4 Animals single
for The Man Don't Give a Fuck.
Incorrect, yeah.
Incorrect. It was Robin Friday.
Correct, yeah.
But somebody made a point, Joe, on Twitter,
thank you, Joe, if you're listening,
that it was actually Ash with the song Kung Fu,
which makes so much more sense.
So you're basically rehashing old mistakes
on a completely different show now, are you?
Tidy and all.
I just think you'd enjoy talking about
Ash
remember when
Tim Wheeler
went all sexy
because he was
like a bit of a
spunk wasn't he
he was a bit of
an icon for the
young indie ladies
if you'll allow me
the name drop
I've met Tim
Wheeler a number
of times
he's good friends
with a friend of
mine and he's a
lovely man
he's a lovely man
I saw him at...
I interviewed him at Waila White Festival.
And then I was on my way to Tokyo.
Tokyo.
And I'd hurt my back.
And I never hurt my back because I'm tiny.
Compact.
And just before the interview with Tim Wheeler and Ash.
And I was just lying on the floor.
He's going, we could do it on the floor if you want.
We could do the interview on the floor.
He's a very nice, softly spoken Northern Irish fella, isn't he? And then I saw him at Heath the floor. He's going, we can do it on the floor if you want. We can do the interview on the floor. He's a very nice,
softly spoken Northern Irish fella,
isn't he?
And then I saw him at Heathrow,
and he's like,
is your back all right?
And I was like,
yes.
Why was he speaking like that?
I don't know.
Do it again.
It's only four words.
Do it again.
You can do it.
Is your back all right?
That was much better.
Is that better?
That was much better.
Yeah, well done.
Is your back all right?
Yeah.
Why are you making that face with your mouth?
It's for Northern Ireland.
Look, you're in disguise.
But he's, yeah, he lives in New York, I believe.
Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it.
Last time I saw him was at Kentish Town Forum.
I like those kind of, I like those people who kind of like live,
like the people you don't expect, like Jarvis Cocker living in France. It's kind of like... People you don't expect to live...
Like Jarvis Cocker living in France.
It's kind of like...
It's quite romantic, I think.
Pete Doherty lives in France, I believe, as well.
He certainly did.
Yeah, yeah.
Jarvis Cocker's living in France
because he's very affected, isn't he?
He probably wakes up every morning thinking,
what would Jarvis Cocker do now?
What would Jarvis Cocker do at this moment?
Yeah.
Not like us.
We're real, baby.
For a six music documentary about Sheffield.
Yeah.
That is how he speaks.
That's a pretty good impression.
Hello at LukeandPeachShow.com is the email address.
We love it when you email in.
We've had so many good ones recently.
We'll try and get through a couple of them now.
Do you want to do some Prime-related stuff now um do you want to do um some prime
related stuff or do you want to do something else yeah let's do it let's do the prime okay so prime
is the drink that we tried to make uncool i think we've succeeded i think so it's good to know that
some of our listeners are helping us with that and chief among them is our friend josh who says
hi there guys i inadvertently fulfilled a request by mr donelson in the energy drink section of my
local market yesterday.
And I think I should probably point out
that it seems to me that you can essentially
get prime energy drink wherever you want in America.
It's just in the UK, it's quite tough to get hold of.
Of course, our friend Noah sent us some, didn't he?
Yeah, because I think Sainsbury's the place
they get these to as the kids,
but they line up around the block at like, you know,
10 a.m. when it all comes in and run in and take it. Josh goes
on to say, the Wi-Fi I have access to and I was shopping
when I stumbled upon the Prime Energy drinks. I
grabbed a can to see what the caffeine content
is, but alas, my poor
eyesight left me unable to make it out.
Thinking quickly, I grabbed my phone, opened
the camera app and just zoomed in. Success!
200mg of caffeine I exclaimed to my
missus. It was at this point, three young
gentlemen around the corner
glanced at me and acknowledged the product with some interest,
but they moved on without taking any prime from the shelf.
Done and dusted, Peter.
I have the Northwest Territory covered.
Best wishes to you both from Eugene, Oregon.
Josh from Eugene, Oregon.
You are doing the Lord's work.
That is very, very enjoyable.
A man who is finding it hard.
Lately, I can't read anything on sides of stuff.
I think I'm becoming more long-sighted as I get older.
I think that's how it's supposed to go.
When's your next prescription?
I got one a little while ago,
and then I got glasses made up to that prescription,
and it was just all out of whack,
and I was like,
it's hard to accuse an optician
of getting your prescription wrong
when it's literally,
they're relying on you reporting what you can say.
Sir, this is a butcher. Yeah, it's true, isn't it? Because they're relying on you reporting what you can say. Sir, this is a butcher.
Yeah, it's true, isn't it?
Because they're only going on your feedback.
Yeah, and some of them are so similar, you're like,
but it was so far out.
I was like, this ain't right.
This ain't right, baby.
My granddad was in the army for a long time,
essentially staying in there
because he used to pay a guy a few quid to give him the eye chart
before his exam.
Oh, right.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
He's driving like,
he's driving like
trucks.
He's building bridges in Korea.
He's doing all sorts of stuff
and he's basically blind in one eye
and always has been.
Yeah, nice.
Yeah.
I enjoy that.
There's no harm done.
There's no harm done, isn't there?
No, I'm good.
Apart from the people
who died in the war
apart from that bridge
that collapsed
yeah
so that's from Josh
thank you very much
for that Josh
oh speaking of Prime
by the way
I should probably
point out that
I'm not sure if you saw it
but last Sunday
at time of record
Jake Paul
so the younger brother
of Logan Paul
of Prime Drinks fame
fought Tommy Fury
and he got beat
which I was bloody delighted about
was it
because
I wasn't sure
about the veracity
about the
how that
whole boxing thing
I thought it was all just bullshit
I thought it was all just
exhibition kind of like
if you indulge me
for a couple of minutes
I'll do it as quick as I can
it's very interesting
because
it's
essentially ripped the boxing community
in half. Okay.
So people, some people are saying, so Carl
Froch got a lot of press because he was a
pundit on the fight on Sunday and he
hates Jake Paul. And he hates
Jake Paul because he's, you know, a pretty objectionable
character, which is fair enough. And the
other reason he hates him is because he's a boxer
from the age of like four
and has dedicated his whole life to the sport,
was a really good amateur,
won several world titles,
and obviously has issue with the idea
that someone like Jake Pulley who's come along
can use his massive social media presence to say,
oh, if you were still fighting now,
I'd easily beat you.
And it's just complete fucking nonsense, right?
And so they don't,
boxers don't like that.
They don't like it when other people
haven't really gone through
the hardships
and the sacrifice
that they've gone through
and start calling them out,
particularly after they've retired.
It just seems quite bad form.
It would be like me
sort of having a,
not me,
but like somebody
who had a following.
Someone who had a following.
Sort of going,
playing in a Sunday,
playing in a Sunday league team
and being quite good
and knocking the
goals in for fun
stretching my
imagination this
having
me too mate
I've seen me play
more than you have
and sort of having
like a social media
kind of like team
sort of pretending
that it was like
the Premier League
do you know what I mean
and me also
taking loads of money
in as well
getting paid
sponsorships and stuff
and getting paid like millions of pounds playing amateur football
like shit like just stupid football yeah but you also add on top of that that basically you're
putting your life on the line every time you do it yes so there's a lot of safety involved so
there's that side of the fence where people don't appreciate it they don't respect it and also to be
fair that jake pa Paul hasn't really, until
he fought Tommy Fury, who is actually a boxer, although
not a very good one, because
he's young and he's a novice.
That's the first time he's actually fought a boxer.
Right? Yeah, and the rest has just been...
Well, it's like old MMA retired people and
no one would respect
because you've got respect anyway, does it? They're not
really boxers. And so,
and then a lot of people like Steve Bunce
I think
who's the
you know
fantastic boxing
expert
he's kind of
he may have changed his opinion now
but the last time I heard him speak about it
he was saying
well actually you know
he's doing the right things
he's taking it seriously
he's working really hard
he's in good shape
he's got some fundamentals
he's a novice fighter
a lot of the
shit is because
he's making loads of money because he's got a
massive following and even though he's a novice doing an eight round fight which doesn't mean
anything he's getting paid world championship money and selling out pay-per-views and people
don't like that and we were talking about this before we were talking about jay paul before
because like i was saying that that he is a young man who looks after himself and he's fit and you
know and he may not be there genetically but he's got all of the resources in the world to make
himself into the best fighter he can be.
And he's kind of doing that.
Yeah.
And are we really going to start fucking now,
2023, start saying,
well, I'm not really happy about this trash talking.
I mean, where have you been for the last fucking hundred years?
You know, there's a lot that's going on in boxing in that way.
And so I don't think you should be taking that seriously.
But what's really interesting is that at some point,
and it started to arguably happen on Sunday,
what Jake Paul did, and by no means is he the first boxer to do this,
if you want to call him a boxer, which I think you should do now.
He's basically, Mouse just got him into a lot of trouble.
So every time he's fought like a 47-year-old Anderson Silva,
who was a great MMA fighter, but he's not a boxer and never has been,
and is also an older man, he's talking.
Well, this is who I want next.
This is what I'm going to do.
I'm going to do this.
I'm going to do that.
And ultimately,
even though there's an amazing video on YouTube
of Eddie Hearn
doing a one-to-one interview with him,
just essentially telling him exactly how it is
with all the experience as a boxing pro,
just saying,
Jake, you're an average fighter.
You're average.
This is what this means.
You did this.
You've done that.
Fine.
Good for you,
but you're average.
And for you, average is good because of where you've come from, but you're average. This is what this means. You did this, you've done that. Fine, good for you, but you're average. And for you, average is good because of where you've come from,
but you're average.
That kind of stuff's been going on.
But the path that Jake pulls on, he can't help but at some point
get himself into a position where it's almost a bit like,
that's me.
I've put you under and I got here.
Because he's going to, one day.
He's working himself into a shoot, brother.
He is.
As Sir Hulcogin said.
got here because he's
going to
one day
he's working
himself into a
shoot brother
he is
and yeah
and the
problem is
it's not a game
to be fucking
messing around
with because
if he ends up
looking out of
his ear hole
because his
mouth's got him
into trouble
it's not an
exaggeration to
say his life
could be ended
literally by
that so he
has to be very
careful about
what he does
and his
promoters and
his managers
have to look
after him
because he fought Tommy Fury.
It's quite a nicely matched fight.
Tommy Fury is much better than him
and beat him.
But he's not the first kid of his age
to still be a novice boxer.
And if he takes it really seriously,
it could be quite an interesting story.
And if I'm going to give him
any credit at all,
I actually think he's a bit
of a fucking dickhead.
But if I was going to give him
credit at all,
I would say straight after the fight
on all his social channels
and in the press conference, he said, beaten by the better guy. Fair enough. I'll be back. I would say straight after the fight on all his social channels and in the press conference he said
beaten by the better guy
fair enough
I'll be back
I'm taking it on the chin
I feel bad
I've let my team down
but it's all part of it
I'm still in the best sport
in the world
and I want to do it again
and that's kind of really
what you'd like to hear
from someone
I mean whether it comes to pass
or not
it remains to be seen
but it's quite a nice
I think it's quite a magnanimous
way to look at it
for a guy who's really
essentially just known
for his arrogance.
Yeah. Yeah. Anyway.
And his brother's very, very good at wrestling.
Is he? Oh, he's incredible.
He's a very handsome man,
Logan Paul, I think.
No. I do. I think he looks great. He's got
a cartoon feature. You are odd
in your mind. Yeah.
Look at what I look like, though.
I know, but it's just like he's so
kind of long in the
face.
It's a long face.
It's so kind of
like.
It is a long face.
It is a long face.
So he's good at
wrestling.
Is he going to
become a wrestler?
So he's got a
WWE contract.
He's wrestled
three times I
think and he
sort of turns up
and he is for
someone who you
know is not a
wrestler.
And the WWE have history
of bringing people
in like this
to wrestle
in the old matches
he's come in
and he's done
the best any of them
have ever done
and actually
he's put on shows
that are
like Mark Hens
has been watching wrestling
since he was a kid
and you know
he's the horse of wrestling
and he's the expert
and he said
he's my favourite wrestler
I can't stand his fucking shit I can't stand his life but you know he's the expert and he said he's my favourite wrestler I can't you know can't stand his
fucking shit
can't stand his life
but you know
he's fucking
brilliant
so they've obviously
got like
genetically
aptitude for
some physical
yeah
he looks like a wrestler
he wrestles like a wrestler
he does
really dangerous spots
like a fucking
proper top tier
WWE wrestler
and he'll only wrestle
two or three times a year
but it's like
the shows he puts on
are just incredible
and it's
and it's annoying
because like
wrestlers will always tell you
it's the same with
Jake in the boxing world
you would imagine
like
he's just a fucking tourist
and he'll get found out
and he'll break his
fucking meniscus or something
you know
and he'll
you know
he hasn't put in the hours
and all that stuff
but it's all very like
fucking if you've ever played the game.
Because the guy is fucking doing it.
That's what I find with Jake.
How much of this criticism is legitimate criticism?
Like, how much is it, actually, do you know what?
You're not actually very happy about the fact that a guy's gone straight to the top of the sport
because he's got such a big following and earning serious money straight away
because you had to come up the hard way.
There's someone said
that Steven Gerrard football thing
a while back, wasn't it?
When he said,
oh, so-and-so needs to understand
that, you know,
I've got three pins in my leg
because you've got to fucking
work hard and get injured
to play football.
It's like, well,
you shouldn't be of that attitude.
You should be of the attitude of
this was hard for me
so I'd like to make it easier
for the younger generation.
Now, it doesn't really
apply to Jake Paul
because obviously he's a
fucking belligerent fucking idiot
but he is still
getting in the ring with a member of the
Fury family, a proper fighting family.
And he actually dropped Tommy
Fury at one point in the fight. I mean, he lost the fight.
He dropped him. Yeah, so he's
obviously got something happening. So
I think, at the very
least, it's an interesting thing.
But it was a real match then? Like, no, it wasn't
like, it didn't look like a proper fight.'t it was a proper licensed fight with three independent judges a proper corner a pay-per-view
event it was a proper fight um right okay and and and i do also think of the backdrop to all of this
is that boxing is itself very insecure about wwe about uf UFC, about the market share
as they perceive it to be taken.
Because they're like the sport that can trace themselves
back to the 1700s. They're the oldest sport in the world.
They're the noble art, the sweet science.
And they
don't make it easy on themselves because they make stupid decisions
as an organisation. Don't let Mayweather do all
those exhibitions then. Exactly.
It's fucking crazy. If it's that fucking
sacrosanct. Yeah. Anyway,
we should go
because we've run out of time.
We've got sidetracked again,
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