The Luke and Pete Show - What a time!

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

Is laughing the most effective way to disarm one of the world’s biggest threats to democracy? The lads dive into American history, from the assassination attempt on Trump, to Pete confusing Thomas Edison for a Founding Father.Email: [e-mail] or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to the Luke and Pete Show. It's Thursday the 25th of July. I am Threat to Democracy Pete Donaldson. I'm here with my running mate Luke Moher. You alright mate? You alright? You good? You good? Can't call him a threat to democracy anymore. Can't do it in these polarised times. I got in trouble the other day for... Hello, everyone, by the way. Hello, everyone. Nice to be here. As you're listening to this, I'm in the Lake District with my family.

So this is pre-recorded, this episode. And I'll tell you a little about that when I come back. A little retreat. Yeah. So I'll be away from all that kind of nonsense. But I remember something happened about a week ago where I said something on the Ramble. And the reason I'm saying this is because

it's actually quite rare for this to happen because I've muted so many people I've got a load of stick for saying something political on the Ramble and I can't for the life of me

remember what it was now I'll tell you what it was I'll tell you what it was I was like it was like oh England have only started playing good football in the Euros

and when Labour came in, they've not even given the Tories a feel-good factor of anyone getting behind the English. Because remember the whole time in the group stage, people were... So I made that point. I've got a load of stick for that. I find that these days,

YouTube in particular, that's something that people take real umbrage with. Anybody straying from their lane, I get so much abuse on the Abroad Japan channel for maybe suggesting that certain parties in America weaponise their southern border, etc. How's that coming up on Abroad Japan? it wouldn't have been on a broad Japan it wouldn't have been well I mean terrible so just let me know um well I would um I mean it's bound to isn't it because I mean obviously uh uh you know the the uh a lot of like I think on Wrestle Me even we're talking about how um the Japanese were depicted in like the 80s and stuff how much

like racist memorabilia you can buy from the Harley Davidson depicted in the 80s and stuff. How much racist memorabilia you can buy from the Harley-Davidson Corporation back in the day. The Chinese had a terrible time of it, to say the least. And also, you've got to remember, during the war and stuff, the internment and all that kind of stuff, it was horrendous. Yeah, the Japanese. But yeah, so I get these running kind of blokes,

always blokes, turning up to every podcast YouTube. Is it only blokes on the internet? Is it just blokes, always blokes, turning up to every podcast YouTube business. Is it only blokes on the internet? Is it just blokes and Caitlin Moran? Are they the only people on the internet? Who's got time to post a comment? I would say that whenever we kind of post something on YouTube, we find that a lot of people just read the title

and they don't actually watch a lot of the video, but they'll just put a comment underneath. They just sort of drive by commenters and stuff. And they hear anybody having an opinion about something, especially if it's anti-Trump in America. That's the big kind of, because that's the most... I don't feel really qualified to be able to graduate towards the world of YouTube comments now.

I can't do it. It's too late, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, I'm not prepared for it. I don't really care what they all think of me. I'll get involved on Twitter, by which I mean I'll mute and occasionally mock people. Instagram's broadly fine.

And YouTube, I'm just not ready for. So the fact that the Ramble YouTube's blown up because we've put some resource into it and now it's got, you know, we did like half a million views for the Euros or whatever, which is a massive, massive thing for us because we never really concentrate

on YouTube for the Ramble, means that all these comments come along, right? And so I haven't even looked at that stuff. But the whole stay on your lane thing on politics is just fucking bullshit. And the reason it's bullshit is because you've got no less a right to speak about your opinions because you're a successful broadcaster. I mean, in many ways, arguably, you've got more of a right to do it.

But you don't get less of a vote in a democracy just because you've been successful at what you do. What people should think about is maybe that there's a reason that you are successful, maybe you are sensible, maybe you have got some knowledge and some experience to fucking talk about. And that your experiences are at the very least no less valid than the average shop worker or bin man or teacher or whatever. So I just think it's bullshit. And if I want to say it, I'll fucking say it.

And I don't care what anyone thinks. And I think it's worth sort of reminding ourselves, as the old proverb says we we are living in very interesting times like very much so i don't remember for example reagan's attempted assassination but living through this one has been uh astonishing a real kind of like god is this how it would have felt back in the day is this how it would have felt for kennedy is this how it would have felt back in the day? Is this how it would have felt for Kennedy? Is this how it would have felt, you know, when, you know, say in Japan, Shinzo Abe getting killed. Like, is this how it would have felt? Is this how it would have felt in those times,

in those areas and stuff? I like to sort of see that. And also to like, when it first happened and like, you know, it was pre, it was the day of the um england final i was very excited about the final i woke up and i was like oh god this is dreadful for a million different reasons and turning on fox radio which is like a basically they just um tune in i think they just rebroadcast fox news um in one of the main cities in in america and they rebroadcast it on radio. And listening to that,

and listening to what they were putting out at Fox News, two hours, maybe five hours after the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, and hearing them playing the screaming kind of Malay over and over again, and interviewing, it is now running there, and interviewing, you know, people high up in the bodyguard game, I suppose, and hear them talk in very political language about the language of how Joe Biden has described Donald Trump in the

last few weeks and stuff like that. And sort of, but in the background, hearing women's screams and men's screams, it was really, really interesting, spicy fucking stuff. And I don't think... It's going to take some time, I think, to process how important the act is and how unique that situation... We don't see that sort of thing very often in the West. And wow, I mean, what a few days. It's a massive kind of where were you when it happened moment.

And I agree with that. But I also would add in a weird way, something I don't think is appreciated enough is the sheer amount of assassination attempts on presidents that have happened in history. I'm not being funny. You may not be aware of it because you're not interested in this stuff if you listen to this and you may have a vague recollection of

Reagan and you'll obviously know about JFK and that kind of stuff. But if you look at the list of attempted assassinations since the inception of the United States as a country, it is in the hundreds. Just of presidents. It's in the hundreds. Honestly of president it's in the hundreds honestly there's something like 14 attempts on obama right yeah got to very that got to various

levels of seriousness or whatever i'm not talking about people taking a shot at him but like you know actual like ricin being sent to him and credible threats and things that are headed off and obviously four presidents have been assassinated um while in office and it's um it's a really kind of interesting thing because you all the rhetoric you hear around it after it's like oh this has got no place in our democracy you know but i understand the principle that you know that democracy is a thing that should be you know we have the best ideas we get those best ideas across and you know if we don't win we don't win but clearly that's not really what they mean and the reason it isn't what they mean is because consistently since the

us was formed political violence has been a massive part of it yeah and that's even before you take into account non-presidents that have been killed like bobby kennedy and martin luther king jr all these people so it's a massive part of um of the culture sadly you know when could when compared to say say, the UK, I know we've had Joe Cox and one or two other terrible incidents, but generally speaking, it's not as much of a part of the fabric.

But yeah, I was absolutely, I mean, I wasn't surprised because it's, you know, you could kind of see it coming, but I was like shocked, I suppose, on one level that J.D. Vance is going to be the VP because, I mean, because I think Trump.D. Vance is going to be the VP because I mean I think Trump will win and Vance will be the VP. I actually know someone that went to

uni with J.D. Vance. Right okay because he's 38, 39 isn't he? He's younger than us yeah yeah yeah he's in the late 30s yeah yeah he would be late 30s but yeah it's because I did well I studied as you know American politics and history and stuff and

I'd studied at quite a good uni and so there's loads of people from all over the place studying there well, I studied, as you know, American politics and history and stuff. And I'd studied at quite a good union. So there's loads of people from all over the place studying there. And it became a bit of a running joke with someone that I know that had studied with him saying that he's an absolute fucking shit stain. Like the worst bloke ever.

But like flip-flappy as well. Oh, he's got no... He flipped overnight, literally overnight. He literally called him Hitler. He literally called Donald Trump Hitler. And then do you know what he did when he got announced as the VP candidate?

Straight on all the networks, frotted up, ate a load of shit, fucking moved on. Because he got absolutely no fucking shame whatsoever, which seems to be a prerequisite to be successful in politics now.

And it's just real confidence. I mean, for obvious fucking reasons for the Trump campaign that they could literally be a prerequisite to be successful in politics now so and it's just real confidence i mean for obvious fucking reasons for the trump campaign that they could literally have ronald mcdonald running with them they could have a literal clown and they're and they're in like it's just good god the the there was already obviously massive issues uh with the what do you make of pete i have interest what would you make of make of the way that Trump responded to the attempt? Because in the moment, and this is like a really macabre thing to say, and I hope people don't get the wrong end of the stick when I say this,

because I obviously think he's the worst human being on the planet, right? I do think that. I think he's just awful. Yeah, and we're still allowed to say that and continue to say that. Yeah, no, absolutely. We're still allowed to say that he's a threat to democracy because of the demonstrable things he's done in office

and out of office. Peter, I would say that, you know, he has been in the vanguard of the rhetoric that has involved violence in politics in the generation that we're in. I don't think there's any denying today.

You can't deny that. That's the fact. He has asked for the heads of most of his political enemies, most of the things he doesn't like. He's literally said, beat the shit out of people, punch, kick and shoot people and incited an insurrection and got people killed January 6th. So, yeah, i mean like yeah and

also i mean the whole fucked up thing about it is just as an aside is you know that there was a they're running the competition they're running the competition at the republican national convention to win an ar-15 which is the weapon that was used to shoot fucking good stuff him anyway um my point was just going to be though this is this is a thorny issue so don't like i say don't get it twisted if you're listening to this. It's more just out of interest, really. How he responded in the immediate aftermath to it, I thought was super interesting. Because people would have expected him to shit a brick.

Yeah, of course. And he actually did it. And that's the annoying... I mean, it is annoying, because those pictures were astonishingly good. If you could pick a campaign photo, if you could pick a photo to sort of... If you were a photographer looking for a Pulitzer... Yeah. I mean, that picture of the...

I mean, if you can get a picture of a man about to be assassinated, you can catch with such a shutter rate that you're not expecting, you could catch the bullet flying through the air and your picture isn't the best picture taken that afternoon.

It's incredible. Like, it's just amazing. And him standing up, I like the fact that he clearly wanted his shoes back because he's got lifts in them. But I think everyone knows that, Shira. Everyone knows that.

Yeah, I know, but it's clearly something that he's quite shy about and even in that moment he's like, get out of my shoes. I don't think you behave how he behaves without having quite a healthy dose of insecurity behind the eyes. But yeah, I mean, yeah, we would imagine because we imagine, I think Rory Stewart said, on this is Polis, he said that you would imagine a bully to be someone who cowers and hides and stuff.

But he got right back up and punched the air. My God, what a performance in that time. I mean, wow. I mean, I didn't hear that, but I completely understand what he means. But what I would add to that would just be that, just go one step further than that, is that if he does behave almost, and listen, let's not be trivial about it, it doesn't matter who

he is, being shot at he's presumably fucking terrifying and he's come very close to being killed right, so we have to take that seriously of course, despite all the caveats we said earlier, but just, I'm not, I wouldn't criticise him for any kind of behaviour in that situation because who knows

how he'd react, I mean I totally get that but I think that given the type of figure that he is and, and, and the way that he conducts himself and the platform he effectively runs on, if he had been shown to be weak in that situation, it's quite interesting to think that the whole edifice might've come down. It's like almost, I always feel like the most damaging thing that I saw when Trump was president

was when he's walking off from some kind of NATO conference, G7 or something, and all the other world leaders, Macron, Merkel, I think it was, might have been Cameron at the time, maybe, possibly not, I can't remember, maybe Theresa May. Yeah, it was May, I think. They're all laughing at him. maybe Theresa May yeah it was May I think they're all laughing

at him and I remember reading years ago that you know the most powerful thing against like a wannabe dictator

or a strongman demagogue or whatever is really laughter they can't I remember someone saying to me once might be Danny Kelly

actually he's a real kind of politics kind of nut he said that you know what's interesting is that they can take big figures like that demagogues dictators horrific fascist authoritarians whatever you want to call them they can take years of abuse it just drips off them they can't take 10

seconds of laughter yeah like because they're so earnest because they're so serious all the time and so I think that the only other way he could have been undermined would have been to be shown to be like a crying baby in that situation because it undercuts exactly everything he says he stands for. But in that moment, he didn't have that presence of mind to sort of do more campaigning effectively. You know, just turn it into a moment, right? Turn it into like water. I mean, you know, hats off. You have to say like he is off. Turn it into, like, what a, I mean, you know, hats off. You have to say, like, ears off. You have to say it's a... Magga hats off.

Magga hats off. It's just an astonishing performance, literally under fire. And it was, he was already pretty much a shoo-in for the situation, unless the Democrats decided to do something particularly drastic that we're never probably going to do. By the time this comes out, they might have done, you know? They might have done, but I mean, it would have to be... It can't come from them, it has to come from Biden, I believe.

Yeah, it would have to be pretty seismic. I don't think Kamala Harris tracks particularly well. I mean, God knows where they'll go with that. Who knows what's going to happen? But it was already looking bleak for the Dems. And it's, I mean, this is just, for one young troubled man's actions, by all intents and purposes,

from a Trump household as well, hilariously. Well, these events, Peter, these individual events are what the world hinges on, right? Oh, it felt very Principe-y. It felt very Gavrilo Principe-y at the time. It felt like, right, I mean, quite apart from the domestic kind of threat to democracy, the way that he treats despots of the world who will feel emboldened by another

four years of Donald Trump my god I've just got to kind of enjoy the pressers and enjoy how silly he is because we're in a, it's going to be a dark You're already getting dog balls rubbed on your head I'm already having a time

syndicative of a wide malaise I think. But yeah, it's astonishing. Speaking of Gavrilo Princip, by the way, just as an aside. Don't use a grenade. Use something else. There's a really good book. One of the best books I've read about World War I

is a book called The Sleepwalkers. And I'm just going to, the reason you hear me tapping away, I'm just going to remember what the name of the guy who wrote it um is because i know he's called chris something it's christopher clark it's called the sleepwalkers how europe went to war in 1914 gavrelo princip was obviously the guy who shot archie franz ferdinand right in the lead up to the first world war and it's a brilliant brilliant book about arrogance and lack of vision from major powers that who before they even knew it just

found themselves in this gigantic world war and i think it's reason it's important to kind of say that context what we're talking about is that far too often people expect that a stuff like that will never happen again and b the reason it will never happen again is because they can't imagine waking up in that one morning and in the whole world being at war. It doesn't fucking happen like that. It happens gradually. And it's always just skirmish here, skirmish

here, skirmish. Oh my God, it's a world war. Exactly. Before you know it, it's a world war. So on that pleasurable note, let's take a

quick break. When we come back, we'll bring ourselves back down to earth with some familiarity in the shape of battery brands. We had a hat trick

last week, so don't forget it. Certainly did. All right, we're back with Luke and Pete Shaw. Every single Thursday, we talk about all things batteries, if that's all right with you. Luke's got in touch with a battery brand by the name of Lepro. Rather unfortunate name, has to be said.

My TV remote ran out of batteries, so ordered the cheapest I could get on Amazon. Never heard of these before when they turned up. Are they a new player? Letpro with a smiley face. Letpro. Very recyclable. The recycling PET01 sign really does take over, one would suggest.

Or is that the plastic sleeve around it? I don't know. They're brand new players. So congratulations to you, Luke. Pete, presumably you've got a word or two for Luke on buying the cheapest batteries he can find because surely if you buy cheap, you buy twice. Yeah, but it looks like he's got enough.

I mean, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. He's got like in the tens of batteries there. So if he doesn't mind sort of changing them. And you know what? Battery power, battery remote controls, the need for more and more voltage and more and more kind of like batteries just seems to have kind of like withered over the years.

I think like you can have like, most of like your Apple kind of TV stuff, they just run on a little kind of cell battery, a little lithium battery, a little kind of one you'd see inside of a computer. And they last for absolutely ages. I have to say, the most noticeable shit battery I had recently was an Energizer. Right, okay. And I used, just so you guys know, I used four AA's to power the microchip cat flap.

Okay, nice. Okay, how often are you exchanging those? Well, exactly. That's obviously a fairly consistent thing it's used average the same amount of time every day and i can time it pretty well and normally the batteries last about six months energizers put down like two or three months that's a shame yeah so you're gonna be careful you have got to be careful having said what you said there yeah but a new player anyway so congratulations congratulations all right let's move on to tony's um sky wolf i morning guys still looking for my second entry at the big boys battery daddy attached to the batteries in my vastly over-exaggerated head torch um 18 000 no yeah 18 000 lumens my ass i present sky wolf eye batteries um still love the show um still have shared birthday fame and

hopefully now a double entry into the batteries game forgot i shared birthday fame and hopefully now a double entry into the batteries game. Forgot I shared birthday fame. That was a fun month, wasn't it? Tony Potter. Thank you, Tony. Would you say Sky Wolf Eye is a brilliant brand name for anything? Sky Wolf Eye. Yeah, it's not even Sky Wolf's Eye, is it? It's Sky Wolf Eye.

That's been generated by someone who's just put that into a computer where English isn't their first language. I mean, the logo is chaotic, isn't it? It really is. I think they've missed an opportunity with the logo. Yeah, where's the eyeballs? Could be super dramatic. Yeah, you've got a zero there. What's the letter?

O. You've got an O there. There could be an I, for crying out loud. That's amazing. If we did a list of the things that you've forgotten over the years, the letter O, how Jesus died. Crazy list. Please start that list.

It'd be really funny. It'd be so good. I really want people, I really want someone to do a wiki, like a Luke and Pete show wiki. Not Pete's to remember. Brilliant. The things Pete can't remember. The list would be incredible

dear Sean has got in touch hang on a minute oh it's not a new player sorry I presumed it would be a new player for crying out loud I presumed it would be

a new player as well but weirdly enough what it's the second Sky Wolf Eye to come in because our friend Nicholas back in 2021

in May sent in a Sky Wolf Eye can you check whether it's as part of a head torch, please? Because I've just spotted that on the strap of the head torch, it actually says SkyWolf Eye as well. So it's not only a SkyWolf Eye branded head torch,

it's a SkyWolf Eye branded battery. Interesting. So they're doing their own batteries as well. And also you'll notice that the positive terminals on the batteries, both on the same side. So it's a modern battery pack. I don't know why they switched that. I don't know why that's happened.

I don't know. I don't know either. Anyway, Nicholas who sent them in hasn't said where he found them. Right. If you're still listening, Nicholas, let us know. Shame. Shame. All right, then.

Sean has come in with a pair. Hello there. Here's my battery submission. Bullet line, super heavy duty. I made the find early today while rummaging through some old boxes here in the state of Texas. Yeehaw. These came out of a pocket flashlight that's promoting a petroleum company, and they still carry enough juice to power the old-fashioned screw-in incandescent bulb

at the tip of the implement, despite being two or three decades old. You love to see that. Wow, that's great. Wow. So it's a pocket flashlight and it's still fascinating. Bulletline, rather than fortunately named and bullet-shaped as well, I guess. Yeah, I mean, obviously that is a quite poor taste

given what we spoke about in the first half. Shame, Sean. Shame on you, Sean. We're dealt. We're played and we're dealt. Never mind. Bulletline, I think it's a great name for a battery and they are absolutely brand new players so congratulations to you Sean so that's two out of three two out of three it's another great week for crying out

loud fantastic I mean the flashlight that we're talking about um um Sean does kindly uh send us a picture of the light that's coming off the top of the flashlight. It's not a beam. You wouldn't call it a beam, would you? It's more just like an apologetic kind of lamp. It's a little glow, isn't it? Yeah, it's a little glow. I mean, I think you'd probably get away with burning that one off during the blitz. Put it that way, for crying out loud.

I think you probably would. I don't think anyone would notice, would they? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. yeah well that's your battery bans for this week if you have got some battery bans that you would like to

chuck our way please do take a picture you have to be in ownership of said batteries hello at littlepeachshow.com is the way

to do that just going back to Andrew going back to attempted assassinations of presidents. Right, yeah. I haven't had time to look at a proper list.

Has any of them been battery powered? Of all of them. But, well, I'm not sure I could tell you that. I mean, when was the battery first invented? I don't even know that. Oh, I don't know. I reckon 1820. Why don't you look it up while I'm just doing this?

Because one of the assassination attempts did catch my eye. 1800. Volta did it. That's not bad. A voltaic pile. That's not bad, is it? They're quite interesting, voltaic piles. They're worth having a look.

Are they still in business? Well, you can still make them. Are they still in business? Well, you can still make them. It's layers of copper and zinc. And you layer them on top of each other and for some reason they just do something. Interesting. I mean, that's quite interesting.

We should have covered that before, really, given that we spend a lot of our time talking about them. Well, Benjamin Franklin first used the term battery in 1749 when he was pissing about with electricity but he didn't really invent it um i do find that he he was a founding farmer father wasn't he old uh old what's his what's his chops um uh edison wasn't he no Thomas Edison? I thought he was involved in all that stuff. Are you thinking of Thomas Jefferson? I'm thinking of Thomas Jefferson. I thought he was involved in the whole kind of start of everything.

The start of everything? What are you talking about? He wasn't born until the mid-19th century. How could he be a founding father of the United States? I don't really know. Wasn't he quite important in politics, States? I don't really know. Wasn't he quite important in politics, though? I don't really know. I don't really know.

But Thomas Edison can't invent the battery. Didn't he invent the light bulb or something? Yeah. This is very confusing, Peter. This is very confusing. Thomas Edison is that guy who invented basically everything, right? Yeah. He's a really prolific inventor.

Oh, he was a naval consultant in World War I. Fucking hell. What's your founding father, though? I thought he was involved in, I thought he was involved in like modern democracy for some reason, because he was a real boffin. I thought he like helped out.

He might have done loads of stuff. Well, the founding fathers all like founding, like I thought the founding fathers was the ones who signed the declaration, but then I thought it was just the first few, the first century of basically politics. I thought that was the start, but you could be a founding father

like new generations, like Pokemon. No, I don't think it is. I mean, if you forgive me, I don't think it is that much like Pokemon. Do you have to be there and no more get created after the signing of the declaration? Well, the founding fathers of the United States

are the people who essentially got the original 13 colonies together, ran the fucking War of Independence from Britain, and then built the nation with the with the constitution and all the other frameworks for that so they said so the final fathers i think are the ones officially who signed the declaration of independence and then the united states constitution it would have been very hard for thomas edison to do that given he was born 80

years later is all i'm saying 80 years just it yeah but i just thought it was like an ongoing thing i didn't think it was like once that got started. Right, okay. As far as I know. To answer that question simply, I'm not an expert in that, but I don't think that's the case.

Can I please just tell you this story about Andrew Jackson? He had a key and a kite. Who had a key and a kite? Who put a key and a kite? I don't know. I think it might be Thomas Edison. I'm going to write in

key and a kite. This is very confusing for the people listening, but on the other hand, I suppose they're probably used to it, aren't they? Andrew Jackson was a president in the kind of mid to early 19th century. And he had an assassination attempt on him. Yeah. Right.

And in 1835, and it was in the Capitol building or just outside. and it was in the Capitol building or just outside. And a guy who wanted to kill him walked up to him with two pistols, right? Fired one of them at him and it misfired. Fired the other one at him and that one misfired. Got apprehended, taken away and fucking, you know, when he was being apprehended, Andrew Jackson started to beat the shit out of him

with his walking stick right and then he got put into jail or whatever mental hospital or whatever and then when they tried the pistol straight away

afterwards both of them fired fine I mean that's incredible isn't it we obviously this week with Donald Trump's attempt at assassination

a lot of the I'm going to say Bible bashing politicians are saying that obviously this is ordained by God with Donald Trump's attempt at assassination, a lot of the, I'm going to say Bible-bashing politicians are saying that obviously this is ordained by God, yada, yada, yada, all the usual stuff that they would obviously say in this situation. But, I mean, that has to be,

dear my God, if the guns just suddenly are fine, that's absolutely wild. Yeah, you'd have some kind of mad, like, God-like complex if that happened to you yeah yeah absolutely bloody literally like proper unbreakable um just walking around doing whatever you want just getting into fistfights um and then the other the other great things yeah the other great one is the teddy roosevelt one right and like in um at the 1912 election um he had been followed around for a long old time by this guy who hated him yeah and um and then this guy eventually when he was in the middle of a speech

shot him in the chest but the bullet i think was slowed down by his um glasses case and a fucking load of papers in his chest pocket, in his breast pocket. And the guy got arrested and stuff like that. And then Roosevelt carried on the speech and the quote attributed to him was, ladies and gentlemen, I don't know whether you fully understand that I've just been shot,

but it takes more than that to kill a bull moose. And he spoke for a further 84 minutes too long and the reason he asked why is he said the reason why he just didn't stop is he said um because he spent so long as a hunter he figured that because he was not coughing blood the bullet can't have reached his lungs right and so he thought oh he'll probably be all right. Right. So it was actually lodged in his body. It didn't just get caught up in the... They never removed the bullet.

It stayed in his body for the rest of his life. Wild. That is absolutely wild. Yeah. So it's happened a lot, this kind of stuff, is what I'm saying. I've got news about who I've confused Thomas Edison with. People were on tenterhooks.

It's great to hear. Benjamin Franklin. He was the inventor, wasn't he, of the founding fathers, and he put the key in the kite to get the electricity. I don't know what you're talking about, the key in the kite. That's presumably some kind of famous story. It's not important about looking at his dates. I know Benjamin Franklin was a founding father.

It's crucial you didn't fucking say that, did you? No, I know, but I just clearly got the words Thomasomas edison confused with benjamin franklin because benjamin franklin was also involved in electricity because he put a key in a kite and flew the kite in the air to try and get the electricity down from the sky oh from like a thunder like a lightning strike i believe so yes that's nice can i give you a really nerdy observation to end the show with today okay yeah go on so what i think is interesting is that if you were to if i was to ask you who are the type of people that like the musical hamilton what would you say what kind of person likes the musical hamilton yeah right what kind of person yeah middle class person yeah yeah middle class liberal lefty wet yp kind of person? Yeah. Middle class person. Yeah.

Middle class, liberal, lefty, YP type of person, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what's really interesting is those type of people were also absolutely beside themselves when the Supreme Court decided that the President has such executive power, he's essentially above the law and really more like a king than a president and they were up in arms about that while at the same time loving Hamilton do you know who thought the president should have been a king when they were drafted in the constitution

they should have had lifetime appointments to the presidency and be above the law yeah was it Hamilton it was Alexander Hamilton and the circle is complete so that is the nerdiest Rye observation you'll hear from me

hopefully for the rest of the show's life cycle but I did think it was interesting and worthy of mentioning hmm did you know that electricity used to be called

electrical fluid that's better I think that's better electrical fluid can you just check if the electrical fluid's on absolutely horrible would we have to cool the plug sockets taps yeah Electrical fluid. Can you just check if the electrical fluid's on? Oh. Absolutely horrible.

Would we have to call the plug sockets taps? Yeah, turn on the electrical tap. Disgusting. It sounds a bit steampunk, doesn't it? It does, yeah. Coming down the tube, some hot white electricity liquid. Electrical fluid. Anyway, let's get out of here.

You can deposit as much fluid as you want until we see you on Monday, Peter. I believe positive and negative terminals used to be known as vitreous and resinous electricity. Again, disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. I believe this. I believe that. And I'm the one who gets in trouble for checking Wikipedia during a show. Pathetic. Hang your head.

No, that's what he said, I believe. After quite a heavyweight political episode today, which we'll get in trouble with from some of our listeners, why don't we do an email special on Monday? We've got loads. All right, fine. Should we just start to finish? Just bang through email.

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