The Mel Robbins Podcast - Where Did All My Friends Go? A Simple Guide to Finding Your People (Steal This!)
Episode Date: July 10, 2023In this episode, I show you how to find your people, have more fun, and create meaningful friendships as an adult in a very simple way. And it starts with your morning coffee. Plus, I’m sharing ...4 opening lines and tactics you can use when approaching a potential new friend. Can we just be honest? Making new friends as an adult is so hard. And I believe that we are all struggling with it. So I’m going to share the strategies that I have used in the last year to go from moving to a new town and feeling like I have "no friends" to taking the steps to create an awesome new circle of adult friends. Today you’ll learn:The ONE practical and life-changing tool you need to create adult friendshipsA fun framework for friendship that involves the 4 different types of coffee shops in your areaThe lies we all tell ourselves about friendships that keep us thinking we have noneHow remote work has changed the friendship gameThe single best place to park yourself on a Saturday morning to find your peopleHow to approach a stranger (potential friend) without coming across as weird, creepy, or awkward What I’m sharing today works because this is how I found my people in the last 12 months. Xo Mel In this episode, you’ll learn:2:37: Today I feel like I’m living in an adult summer camp; it wasn’t always this way.4:31: It is within your power to create community and connection.7:13: What happens when you look through the lens of loneliness?8:55: The #1 mistake I made with my friendships.10:15: If you want the flower to grow, you need to plant the seed. Let me explain.14:05: The lie you’re telling yourself when it comes to friendships.18:44: Why making friends feels so hard nowadays.20:07: A fun framework for friendship that involves the 4 different types of coffee shops in your area.27:58: The coffee shop I go to and why it’s been a gamechanger for meeting potential friends. 31:28: I challenge you to do this the next time you get a coffee.33:08: Friendship is a verb, you have to make it happen.34:18: This ONE tool will allow you to create lasting bonds.35:03: For all my introverts, here is my advice for you...36:18: The easiest ways to create connection in any situation.37:20: Don’t have weekend plans? You will after you do this.41:08: Making new friends can be fun and easy (I’m being serious). Disclaimer
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Hey, it's Mel.
And welcome to an improv to jump on the mic people episode
of the Mel Robbins podcast.
Let's freaking do this.
Oh my God, you guys, I have something I have to talk you about,
making your life as an adult, as fun as summer camp
and how to make adult friends using coffee shops in your neighborhood.
Okay.
Awesome.
Okay.
Yes.
But first, I came from a coffee shop.
Can we talk about this freaking pastry that I brought?
It's gorgeous.
I love a pastry, everybody.
I exercise simply to eat a 10,000 calorie pastry.
Yeah.
Look at it.
Well, it's worth it.
Most of you don't know this,
but I have a love affair with pastries
because my grandparents, Betty and Frick Schneiderger,
they, what are you laughing about, Nate?
Laughing at my freaking name.
Well, yeah, it is a funny name,
and also you act like, you know,
oh, you know Betty and Frick Schneiderger?
Yeah, right down the road.
Like, it's like a very funny like,
well, they're not like, they're under the ground
and up and having a lot of fun.
No, I'm sure, yeah, no, but they sound like folksy and like, they are under the ground and up and having them. No, I'm not sure. Yeah, no, but they sound like folksy
and like they are people that we would like to use.
Be friends with. I would like to know them.
They need a pastry with a party.
They are, they are salt to the earth.
My grandfather immigrated here from Austria at the age of 15.
Wow. He was in the Navy.
My grandmother grew up in a coal mining town in Ohio.
And they met because she was shipped off from the coal mining town to become a maid
for some rich family based on a newspaper ad.
And they met.
And when he got out of the Navy,
they started working in a bakery in Chatham, New Jersey.
And my grandfather was the baker.
And ultimately, over the years,
they bought out the owner
and they were the Chattam Bakery
people.
This is by the way why I never saw them because they ran a bakery by themselves.
And when you run a bakery, you're running a bakery, right?
So I always think about my grandparents when I see a great pastry.
So I love pastries.
Yeah.
Here's the breakthrough that I had.
When I first moved to this tiny ass town,
couple years ago now, I guess I haven't,
I've lived here full time now for about a year.
When I first moved here, I hated it.
I was lonely.
I had no friends other than you two.
And you two are amazing, but I'm sorry,
like it's kind of lame if you're
only friends or from work, right? Yes. I hated it here. Today, I realized that I've had a life
changing breakthrough. I woke up today and I feel like I live in adult summer camp.
That's awesome.
I woke up, I rolled out of bed, I had my glass of water,
I made my bed, and then I checked my phone,
and Amy, you and David Gerbitz were already texting
like school girls.
We were.
Like at 5.30 in the morning.
And you're like, who's up?
And you're texting photos of the view this morning,
and then you're like, who wants to do some?
Is Amy pulling the card?
Are we going for a walk?
What's happening?
And then you said, Mel, get in here.
And that was the last text I written.
I was like, here, what do you mean in here?
And then I realized, you were talking about just
get in the text chat.
Yeah.
And then talk to us.
Well, we were up before the bugle, you know?
And I can't kind of like, we were just up. And yeah, we know, and camp kind of like we were just up and
Yeah, we're like minded in that way. We're all up early in the morning doing our thing getting our day started
So I was like, Mel get in here. What have you got to say? Oh my god, and I felt this like
Oh, I have friends. Yeah, my friends are having fun that want me to have fun
Oh my god
Oh my god, and then like it just was this moment.
And so as I was reflecting on this this morning,
I thought, how did I get here?
How did I get here?
How did I get from being new to a tiny community,
feeling so depressed and lonely,
being worried that I had made a huge mistake by leaving a place
that I had been for a very long time, convincing myself, I would never find people like people
having college or you have it summer camp and you're just having fun and you're doing
life together and there's no, there's some drama, but no drama really, like, you know?
Right, right.
And here I am. And I've created it. And I realize the point of the episode today is to get you to consider that it is within
your power to create an experience as an adult where your life feels like summer camp, where
your friendships are really fun, where you're having fun, where you wake up to text chains,
where friends are
already talking, and that's what's happened.
And oddly enough, it has to do a lot with coffee shops.
I can't wait to hear this.
Let's do it.
Okay.
Great.
And I just need to also say that there are people outside doing all kinds of work around
here.
There are tractors.
There are stone walls that are getting built.
There is pavement going in today. And so, you know, are stone walls that are getting built. There is pavement
going in today. And so, you know, you're going to hear some stuff. And we're not going to edit it
out because the whole point of the Mel Robbins podcast is that we're doing life together. And we're
putting arm around you and taking you on that walk with us. Along with all the brownie men outside.
Yeah. We're jumping on the mic. Yeah. We're just jumping on the mic together and I want to inspire you today
to think about the next 12 months of your life and the breakthrough that is available to you
if you start to show up differently and you get super intentional about creating fun with friends
and meeting new people and putting yourself out there. Oh my god, there's a friend of mine.
yourself out there. Oh my God. Oh my God. It's a friend of mine calling like on cue. Gretchen. Gretchen. Now, yes, you're on the podcast. We were just talking about friendship
and how it sounds. It feels like summer camp here. And then you call.
I'm so glad I called you. I'll call you back when you're done with your podcast.
All right, but just tell everybody how miserable I was a year ago.
Well, you thought you had no friends.
You did have friends and you were depressed and you were sad,
but you had friends and you were loved.
You just didn't feel it.
Oh, oh, drop them.
Drop them.
Right.
Wow.
Exactly.
Okay.
I know.
She sounds like a camp counselor this way.
Yes.
Yes.
All right, my love. All right, I love you.
I'll call you later.
Oh, okay, maybe we should start there.
Yeah.
Like maybe you do have friends and you're not letting them in.
Amy, I'm looking at you.
Yeah, I believe it.
You're looking at me because I just said that.
Yes, yes.
Just yesterday Amy turned to me and was like, I need to find my friend group. I'm looking at you. Yeah, I believe it. You're looking at me because I just said that. Yes, yes. Just yesterday, Amy Turner, me was like,
I need to find my friend group.
I'm like, bitch, I'm in your friend group.
What do you talk about?
I thought about that.
And I told my husband Tim about that.
And he was like, that is probably the weirdest thing
you could ever say to somebody.
I need friends while looking at a room full of people
that are like your contacts.
Not you.
Not you.
I mean real friends.
No, I know.
It's true.
But you know what that points to though, Mel, is I was feeling a little sad.
Why?
Because I was looking at life through the lens of I don't have any friends.
I was literally telling the person you that I am friends with. Well, I don't have any friends. I was literally telling the person you that I am friends with.
Well, I don't have any friends.
How lame is that, you know?
And I was thinking about that moment
and how I changed my mindset on that
and how you were kind of like, all right, listen,
this ends here, if you're not gonna consider me,
you know, like a good friend.
And I thought about it and I thought,
why do I feel like that? It's just a habit
to feel like that.
Yes. And I also think that as an adult, there is a major change in mindset that you need
to make. And interestingly, Gretchen clearly called at the exact right time to make sure that we talked about this.
I mean, it's kind of uncanny because when you're growing up, so much of your
friendships are orchestrated through teams and classes that you're in and through
people that live on your hallway or people that you work with. And so they are
made for you through proximity, right?
But the older that you get,
the more intentional you need to be
about causing those bumpens
and causing reasons to get together.
As life gets busier, as you get older,
as people move away,
as people go through different life experiences,
whether it's a change in a job
or an ending of a marriage or a breakup or whatever, or start having kids or get a ton of dogs or whatever ends up happening.
Your friendships change because you stop seeing people so much, but here's the mistake that I made,
is I stopped thinking that the people that I didn't see as much were my friends. We associate
didn't see as much were my friends. We associate the amount of times you see somebody
with whether or not they are actually a friend of yours.
And I am here to make you think differently
on a number of levels because these are big breakthroughs
that I had.
A year ago when I was a sad, sad, lonely,
I got no friends bitch.
I remember it.
I was so sad.
The only favorite story about me
is like the definition of pathetic.
Yeah, well, you had just moved into this house
and it is a gorgeous home
and your surroundings are fantastic
and yet you're crying your eyes out
and, you know, like Gretchen said,
super sad, sack, and I was trying to tear you up
and I said, Mel,
what do you think you'll do with the landscaping here? Knowing that you love flowers, I said, do you sack and I was trying to cheer you up and I said, Mel, what do
you think you'll do with the landscaping here knowing that you love flowers?
I said, do you think you're maybe going to plant some some hydrangea here or peonies that
you love?
And you said, I don't know.
I'll probably just leave it all dirt.
And what do we know? Who's outside today?
Right. We're planting. Yeah. Do you later hear that?
Yeah. Planting P&E's hydrangeas in tons of
hosta. Yeah. And here, this is an important part because when it comes to loneliness and
friendship, it doesn't matter how nice your car is. It doesn't matter how good your job
is. It doesn't matter how much money you have or you don't have. If you tell yourself the story that nobody likes
you or that all your friends are gone or that you're the only one that doesn't have a
friend group or you can't have any fun or you're not having any fun or you'll never
have fun again, you will stay stuck there. And the truth is your friends didn't go anywhere. Your
friends, I am convinced. And I need you to hear this loud and clear. Every single adult right
now is having a friendship crisis. You believe that your friends are having this wild party
and you're not invited. And it's not true. Every single time I talk about this topic with
anybody, they chime in and say, I feel the exact same way.
I feel like I never see my friends.
I feel lonely.
I'm not having as much fun as I would like to have.
And I got so sick and tired of going,
I'm just gonna live with dirt.
I'm not gonna plan anything.
That I said, woman, if you wanna have more fun,
if you want friends,
you got to put your ass out there again.
You do.
You have to cause us.
Just like if I want plants to grow,
I got to plant the seeds.
Yeah, I got to split the hostage.
I got to stick them in the ground,
and I'm telling you,
I want to inspire you today to think differently
about friendship, okay?
I want today to be the day that you turn the corner and you start to plant those seeds
because you can wake up a year from now
and go holy guacamole.
My life feels like camp.
Yeah.
I have a lot of friends.
I'm having fun again.
And they're on-purpose friends.
What is an on-purpose friend?
Is somebody that you deliberately wanted to be friends with
and made that friendship happen.
So not on purpose would be work friends or friends that you, I don't know, that you maybe
do some kind of sporting activity with, but it's not because you're a friend group first.
It's just the sport.
There's a common bond, but that bond comes before the friendship.
So the softball team's going to always exist whether whether you're on it or you're on it.
Hold on a second.
Okay, I love this distinction.
Okay.
The difference between the bond that's created versus the friendship that's developed.
So to use the three of us as an example, we have a bond because we work together every day,
but our friendship got created because we took it way further than just the bond of work.
Yes.
Yes.
There's caring, empathy, and nurturing, outside hours.
Outside hours.
Outside hours.
And probably HR, non-compliant.
Yeah. So that's cool because it HR non-compliant. Yeah.
Yeah. Cool. Because it's on purpose. Yeah. Okay. It's on purpose. So we want to.
I'm purpose friends. That's our amazing. And I'm kind of just opening up to that too.
Because you don't feel like there are, I think that's part of the reason why I felt like I didn't have any friends.
Because you feel like they're just friends with me because I work with them. Right.
Yeah. Or they're just friends with me because I work with them. Right.
Or they're just friends with me because I'm in school with them.
Right.
And that can make you feel like you're not really a good friend.
But on purpose friends, for me, fill your life with such vitality and activity and excitement
because they're there for you.
Yeah.
They're the friend that's behind you, not behind the softball team or the organization
that you work for or whatever.
They're there for you.
How great is that to be on purpose with your friendship?
Great.
So already two massive takeaways.
Number one, there's a lie you're telling yourself, which is you have no friends.
That's actually not true.
Your friends are still there. What's been missing
is the fact that you're not being proactive about developing the friendship piece. So let's take
Amy's little framework there. Every relationship when it's a friendship has both the bond, which is
usually created from some outside force. You're a neighbor,
or you're working together, or you go to the same yoga studio.
Or your family.
Or your family.
Yeah, it's a good one.
Or whatever, like you went to college together.
When the bond that brings you together all the time disappears, it's on you to keep the caring and the interest
and the outreach alive because that's what the friendship
actually is.
And so I want you to understand that all those people,
that you used to hang out with,
that you used to feel that bond with, they're still there.
Mm-hmm.
And they're thinking, you'd left.
Yeah.
And you have an opportunity to flip your thinking
and realize it's literally about reaching back out,
getting very intentional about the reconnection
because the last three years,
and everything that we've all been through,
I think evaporated the bond
that brought most
of us together in real life with our friends.
And so I, that's takeaway number one.
Take away number two is that this is possible in your life.
You can have an experience in your adult life, that your entire adult life when it comes
to friendship is a camp experience,
that you're in it with other like-minded people, that you're having fun, that there are
activities.
And if you want that, then get the shovel out and start planting some seeds.
And today, I'm so excited to share with you this framework around coffee shops, because
I think this is a simple
way to get your butt out of the house, especially for those of you like the three of us who
moved to a new area in the last three years. And all the bonds disappear because we're
in a new physical location. And so this could be you. This could be you that you've gotten
a divorce. You've changed job. You've moved in the last three years. You've graduated from college. You're in a new city. You broke
up with somebody and now you're single. All these things that evaporate bonds. Your friends
are still there. Number one, number two, you can make new amazing friends too. I got to
take a quick pause and eat this fricking pastry. When we come back, I'm going to unpack this amazing coffee shop example to how
you, yes you, can start to create the best friends you've ever had in your life
as an adult. I'll be right back. Awesome.
Welcome back. It's your friend Mel. Got my arm around you. We're going for that walk. We're having pastries this morning. Amy and Jesse have joined us. This is one of these
impromptu episodes. I cannot get the information out of my mouth that's it. Yeah, you got a lot
to say. I had a lot to say. I can't wait to hear what you have to say about friendship and coffee houses.
It seems like a low lift.
Right.
It seems like, you know, something achievable.
So tell us.
What you got, Mel?
I'm so excited about this because I do think it's possible for the next year for you
to take on a project around friendship and for you to create the best friendships
of your entire life doing this.
And I'm so excited because I realize looking backwards
that that's what I've been doing for you.
I've been putting myself out there
and putting myself out there and putting myself out there.
So here's the bakery friendship.
What should I call this framework?
The three part, I don't even know what the hell to call this.
Here's how you use a bakery to get friends as an adult.
There you go.
So I think one of the hard things about being an adult, particularly in this world of
remote work, is that you don't have as many chances to bump into people.
And so that bond of a softball team or work
or your kid soccer games or going to a yoga studio,
one major thing that has impacted adult friendship
is that people are way more secluded in their homes.
And so it's reduced exponentially the opportunity for the first part of friendship, which is
that external bond that brings you together.
So you got to create the bond.
And what I realized in moving to a new town, it's hard to find people.
Like where am I finding my people?
And I don't want to seem like a desperate stalker. So, how do I find my people? And when I'm out in public trying to create this bond, how
do I approach without seeming creepy? How do you do that if you're introverted? Like,
this is weird. It's not like we're all freshman in college again because people that are
out in public, you don't know
if they're new to the area, you don't know if they've been here forever.
I think so, yes.
I don't know.
Yes.
And so we sort of opt out of these opportunities.
And that's where the coffee shop comes in.
So first, I want you to think about your town.
And I'm going to tell you something that's true that you've probably never thought about.
There are four types of coffee shops in your town.
Okay.
There is the chain.
So, Dunkin' Donuts, Honeydew, Starbucks, insert your favorite chain.
Okay?
And that's one type.
There is the first responder coffee shop where the EMTs, the volunteer fire folks, the police officers,
they're all gathered there every morning.
There is the neighborhood local coffee shop, which is the place that a lot of moms stop
by quickly on their way to school, or maybe they meet their mom friends after school.
And then there's the fourth type of coffee shop in your neighborhood, which is that high
end one.
You know, the kind of place where people wear an apron with leather straps and the pay
strings look like you would pay $75 for them.
Yeah, okay.
I get the coffee.
I'll see that.
I'll see that.
I'll see that.
You don't know.
Yes.
And you have to think about it and identify those four types of coffee shops because the coffee shops themselves
create an opportunity to create that external bond that is needed in order to form a friendship.
Hear me out. Yeah. Because all four of those types of coffee shops
four of those types of coffee shops automatically like the sorting hat and Harry Potter, sort out the kind of people that walk through the front door.
Yeah.
I can see that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So if you think about the first type of coffee shop, the chain. Yeah. That is not a great place for you to create a bond with anybody that you want to become
friends with.
Yeah.
A lot of them have mobile order.
A lot of them have drive through.
And so the entire psychology and energy of anybody going to that coffee shop is get in
and get out.
Get in and get in and get in and get out.
Don't want to be seen.
Correct.
And if there is somebody sitting in there
with a laptop, they're likely going to have headphones on.
Right.
Because they're trying to get something done.
And because that kind of coffee shop experience
is so transactional that people are in and out
and in and out and in and out,
it's a very distracting place to work. Right. And so it's not a great place to create
a bond. So we're going to just move that off the table. Okay. Yeah. Makes sense. Second
type of coffee shop in every community is what I call the first responders, Salt of the
Earth coffee shop. This is where the people that grew up in the town, the old timers, the volunteers
that keep our town running. They got the best amdonets in town.
And the little cups of coffee. Oh, yeah, the little ones.
Like, yeah, this is like used to be the diner crowd. Yeah.
And here's an institution. It's an institution. Yeah.
And when you're new, it is intimidating as hell.
It is.
It's a walk into it, even though it's all of the most best, amazing people.
People have been on everyone.
Yes.
They make your town run.
Right.
But it feels like an insider.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It feels like a hard casing on top of that that you have to kind of craft.
You feel that you have to sit down there.
Yes. Where it's like, no, I'm just here to grab and go,
but you get, I don't know.
And then there is relax and sitting
and gonna be there for a while.
Yeah.
Now that kind of first responder,
salt to the earth, thank you for your service everybody.
We love you.
Yes.
The backbone of our town.
That kind of coffee shop proves my point
because that coffee shop experience
where everybody gathers,
they're always there having their cup of coffee
before work or they're always there
after plowing all the driveways at a snowstorm.
That coffee shop is created their bond.
Yes.
They prove that it's possible.
Yes. I never thought prove that it's possible. Yes.
I never thought about that.
Right?
And by sitting there over a cup of coffee
and having it be a ritual to start their day together,
most mornings, their friendship is deepening.
A couple of things about this kind of coffee shop,
best donuts in town.
They probably have a crawler,
you know, that big kind you know, kind of donut thing
that you're going to dip in. I'll tell you what they don't have. Those kinds of coffee shops never
have a machine that makes cappuccinos and lattes. You're right. It's impressive. Right. Yeah. No.
Nope. And so here's the thing I want to tell you, if those are the kind of folks that you really connect with. And this is my entire extended family.
I come from a line of farmers and machinists and CEOs
and sheriffs and nail technicians
and school administrators and people that own bakeries.
These are my people.
Yeah, yeah.
But it is so intimidating when you're in a new town.
It is to penetrate that established crowd.
It's like being a kid and sneaking into the teacher's lounge.
It is like that.
Yeah.
But if you're lucky enough to do it,
they're gonna be great people.
Yeah, very good hands.
If you just show up every week and you sit down, they will put their arm around you.
You just got to start showing up.
And so that's coffee shop number two.
We're going to take another quick break because I want more of this video story.
Get in there, Mel.
And when we return, I'm going to explain coffee shop number three and coffee shop number four.
And then we're going to get into some really great techniques that you can use.
Once you pick which coffee shop you're going to try to establish your bond in to make the
approach.
Hmm, stay with us.
Awesome.
Welcome back.
At your friend Mel, this pastry is so damn good.
I'm talking about adult friendship and how I'm on a mission to inspire you to create the
best friendships of your entire life.
Coffee shop number three in your town,
the local coffee shop.
It's where all the moms go on the way to work
or on the way to dropping off kids at school.
It's the place where it's bustling in the morning.
You got people with laptops out,
every other customer, they're like,
I'll have the regular and people working behind the counter
like they know.
Oh, that means you want a latte with three sugars,
and you want the carrot muffin to go.
They're usually busy till like 11,
because a lot of people meet there
after dropping off their kids.
Like is that kind of place?
Yeah, yeah.
Right, it's different from number one,
because it's maybe not a franchise, and it's just more
local, the local field.
Yeah, yeah.
And different from number two, because it's not really the place where you see the established
group, almost every morning.
Yeah, okay.
This is the place that if I had to meet you at 10 o'clock to catch up, we'd meet there. Yeah. Okay. This is the place that if I had to meet you at 10 o'clock to catch
up, we'd meet there. Yeah. You know, I mean, salad food, salad coffee, you know, you're
going to get the right things. Exactly. They got the little punch card for your body.
I love these for oil. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They might even have the alphabetized index on
the desk, you know, for your cards, you can leave it there. It's like that kind of place,
right? Yeah. Yeah. They might convert to sandwiches, you know, at noon cards, you can leave it there. It's like that kind of place, right? Yeah.
They might convert to sandwiches, you know, at noon time.
Yeah, right.
That kind of place.
In all the teenagers, in town, work there.
Yeah.
As a summertime.
Exactly, exactly, exactly.
And, you know, one of the other things I'm going to layer into this is that sorting hat
reference.
Certain types of people go to certain types of coffee shops on a regular
basis. I'm not saying that we don't frequent all four because I do frequent all four of
these. Sure.
But there is my go to that if you could only pick one of the four, there is one that you
would pick. And that's how you know the kind of person that you are and the kind of sorting
hat thing that's going to happen for you. And this gets deeper and deeper.
But let me tell you number four next.
So number four is that coffee shop that is always written up in the travel guide about your town.
It is the one that is with barn wood and the people that work there are very like kind of cool.
Yeah.
Maybe a beanie.
Yeah.
You've got a apron on with a leather strap.
The pastries look like a million dollars.
The coffee is strong.
The latte machine is like the size of a New York City bust
and it looks gorgeous.
Right, right.
And that is a whole different crowd. A whole different crowd. Yep. And one of the things
that I love about this distinction is that when you decide, one, two, three, or four, you got two
hours to kill. Where are you going to go sit with your book? And the reason why this is important is because you know instinctually in your heart, there
are going to be certain kinds of people with certain kinds of interests coming in and
out.
Because none of these are better than the other.
They just attract a person who's interested in certain things.
And look, there are amazing people that go to all four and there are complete assholes
that go to all four. It's not about that. It's about what people like. So that's
why the sorting hat is important. If you want to start to make adult friends, park yourself
at one of those coffee shops, several mornings a week, and on one day on the weekend, for an hour.
How is that going to help? You're going to start seeing people coming in and out
and they're going to be the same people. And you're going to start saying hello.
And like I've seen Jesse at coffee shop number four. Guilty. Yes. And it was Jesse that told me about it.
I had been here an entire year.
I did not know that coffee shop number four existed.
Wow.
Because your eyes were closed.
Yes.
To the friendship.
Yes, I was still thinking I was just gonna have dirt around my house.
Yes.
I'm not like going to a coffee shop.
Living in her ant farm.
And so the dirt.
Yeah, Jesse's like, you been to this coffee shop and I'm not going to name it because I don't need
Stalker showing up there. Yeah, I'd love to promote all the coffee shops in our town. Yeah, but I was like, no
Kicker ox now. I walked into that place. I was like, am I in Brooklyn, New York? Yeah, There's a person with a beanie. Yeah. There's a machine. There's a pastry that I'd
pay $75 for largely because it tastes like $75. Yeah. I'm willing to pay $65 for this thing. I think
it was what it was. That oh my God.
Oh my God.
And so here's how this works.
This becomes your go to place.
So anytime you meet somebody new or somebody introduces you to somebody in the town, you say,
how about we go get coffee on Saturday morning at nine o'clock at the such and such?
Yeah.
Now here's where this starts to build.
As you meet new people, here's what you say,
because I always meet my friends there
at nine o'clock on Saturday morning.
You're creating an institution.
You're creating your bond in your institution.
You know what?
This is, you know what's hitting me right now?
Friendship is a verb. Oh. Like when you're
saying, oh, let's meet up for coffee or park yourself at the coffee shop and then you actually
have to talk to people. Yes. Friendship is a verb. Like you gotta be doing things. It's an
action word. Like you have to make it happen. That's what's hitting me. Yes. Yeah. And the
more you go there, the more you start to know the staff and the owners.
And then you'll see who else knows the staff and owners.
And then that gives you an in,
don't you just love this place?
How long have you known so and so and so and so?
And here's another way that you can like
strike up a conversation.
If you're standing in line, turn to the person next to you
and ask them, what's the best owner?
What's the best muffin? What's the best muffin?
What's the best pastry here?
What do you recommend?
Yeah.
That's your in.
Yeah.
That's your in.
And here's the other reason why I don't like category number one
for this kind of friendship building.
Who in their right mind turns to anybody
at a Starbucks or a knock-and-done,
it's like, what donut do you recommend?
Yeah.
Like, you're like idiot, they've had the same ones
for a decade.
What do you mean, what one?
Do you never been here?
Yes, and plus you don't know if they're just driving through. Yeah. Yeah. And so
this allows you to start to create that bond. It gives you a place where you're always going to say you meet people on Saturday mornings
there at nine o'clock in the morning and that's your parking your parking spot. That's your bond. And then you tell
people that every time you meet them there and then people start to bring their friends. Yeah.
And that's how it starts to grow. I love that, Mel. That's such a great strategy. If you're outgoing
and you happen to be one of the top motivational speakers in the world, Mel. But for the rest of us
and for many people in the inbox who write in and struggle and say they're introverted and they're shy and
You know, it's really hard for them to put themselves out there
You got any specific tips for anyone who's introverted?
Here's another tip if you're shy and if you have trouble approaching people
Here's the best way to approach for anybody
Look at something the person is wearing or look at
some feature like glasses or nails. More a hairstyle or hair or color or grades or whatever
it may be.
Weaver earrings, jewelry, compliment them. Complement them. Yeah. When you compliment,
oh my god, your nails are so great.
Wow.
People literally light up like a light bulb.
They do.
They do.
Yeah.
I know I do, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So everybody else must too.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
That's a good one.
I got another good one.
Gum.
Gum.
So I come.
I'm telling you, my therapist told me this when I was in high school. I was an
extroverted person, but I became really, really shy when there was a class of like a hundred girls.
I went to an all-girl school and I didn't know how to talk to any of them. So my therapist said,
you know what? Always carry gum with you. And when you meet another person, say, would you like a
stick of gum? And that's how friendship starts
because you're sharing the gum,
then next thing you know you're talking,
the next thing you know you're having lunch with the person.
So after you compliment their earrings,
take a look at their nails,
tell them that they're beautiful.
Give them a piece of gum.
You got any other lines,
any good openers as you're talking to strangers
in a coffee shop? Yes. If you're new, I would say this all the time to be, I'm new here.
What do people do here? Yeah. Or even if you're not new somewhere, you can say to somebody,
I've fallen out a loop, what's going on this weekend around here? Yeah. And here's what's
super cool about that. Let's go back to the way that coffee shops work as sorting hats.
Coffee shop number two, those folks are going to tell you
something super fun like, oh, well, there's a tractor pull
over at such and such.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or there's a huge, like pizza fundraiser thing going on
for the local, you know, fire department.
If you go to coffee shop number three, it'll be like, oh,
well, there's a art fair at the school, something going on at the library. You go shop number three, it'll be like, oh, well, there's a art fair
at the school, something going on at the library. You go to number four, it's like, oh, well, there's a
mushroom foraging, such and such happening. Or there's an author coming to the bookstore.
Right. And so again, you're pulled in for the aesthetic, you're pulled in for the type of food,
you're pulled in for the vibe. those kind of folks tend to have certain
kind of events that they go to. And so you're also then going to get recommendations that also feel
like it's something you actually might want to do. Right. Well, and what I'm also getting from
this is that you, it's a better spot to make conversation at number four. Yes. Because it's not,
it's not transient where people go in and out. It's it's not institutionalized.
It's not focused around maybe kids or work or something like that. It's a great place to strike up
a conversation. So go where it's a little bit easier. Yes. And here's one more recommendation
that has really helped me. And again, I think I've demonstrated over and over that I can put myself out there.
I don't give a shit. Like, it's an emergency to solve a loneliness problem. Yeah. And so,
I have no problem going up to people and saying, I'm new to the area and I desperately need friends.
Like, if you guys need friends, let me know. Yeah. I did. How do you people meet people here? And
most people laugh and say, I feel the same way. Yeah.
And even if you have been in an area for a long time,
there are two things I want you to do.
It is okay to live in an area for 20, 30 years
and feel lonely.
And it's normal, and I think most of us do
because of the last three years in quarantine
and remote work.
It's okay to do all of this in your own town
where you've always lived.
And to say to people, I've become a hermit.
I'm trying to make some new friends.
If you feel that way,
you guys wanna start a walking group or something,
you wanna just meet here on Saturdays,
so we have a touch point.
And then if people say yes,
I get their cell phone right then,
I text them right then. And here is a power move. You say, the second I walk out of here, I'm going
to forget what you look like. So why don't we take selfie? So we remember this moment.
Yeah. And so that when I text you, you're not like, who is this freak? From the coffee shop? What are you talking about? Yeah.
And so that is a major thing.
And I say that because for the first six months
I started using this coffee shop strategy,
I didn't do that.
The selfie thing you do that.
Yes.
And then weeks would go by and somebody would text
and be like, hey, you want to meet at the baker
and I'm thinking, who the fuck is this?
Oh, good. I'm to give my name to.
I don't know.
And then I've got ADHD.
So I would have deleted the text chain.
I'm like, what the fuck is this?
And now you're a mirror's because you're like, all right, what's your name?
Yeah.
And then you walk in and you're thinking, okay, what's what person am I?
That's not a good start to the friendship.
No, you smoothed it out a little bit with the self-defense.
I think that's a, that really is a power move. Yes. Yeah.
Really good. And that also shows your super determined. Right.
We're getting together. I'm going to see you again. I'm going to see
you again. Yeah. I like that. Yes. And I have one final tip. I can't
wait to hear it. My desire is that your life as an adult feels like
summer camp or college is that you're constantly rolling out of bed,
and it's like, hey, let's go grab a meal.
Hey, let's go to the boss.
Hey, you wanna go on a hike?
Yeah.
It's like constant kind of just bumping into people
and energy around it.
Yeah, yeah.
And fun, spontaneous fun.
So one thing that I've started taking on more and more
and I stole this from friends of mine
that I think are hilarious, is that I try to lighten up every single group chat that I'm
in, with memes, with funny-ass photos, and it works wonders.
Like when somebody texts you, like you want to get together, I will literally take the ugliest selfie
and be like, absolutely, but not right now,
because I haven't even gotten dressed for the morning yet.
Like that kind of thing.
Or you want to meet for coffee?
Yeah.
I'm so excited to see you.
I'm coming in my pajamas and I'm getting
and then I take a photo.
You know, like, yeah.
That sort of, I'm in camp again.
I'm having fun again.
You are.
And it's working.
Yeah.
It's working.
I've gone from wanting to just have dirt around my house
to putting plants in the ground.
I've gone from feeling like my only friends or people
I work with to feel like, well, actually,
I feel like I, it's not even that my work friends have become my friends.
It's that I just get to hang out with my friends all day long
and we call part of that time work.
Right. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Yes, totally.
Oh my God, this morning was it.
What happened?
What are you talking about?
Well, first of all, I've already told you, I woke up.
I did my, like, you know, my ABCs.
I got up out of the bed. I drank my water. I made my bed. I was up, I did my, like, you know, my ABCs, I got up out of the
bed, I drank my water, I made my bed, I was about to go out for a walk, I pick up my
phone.
And there is this literally long text chain of Amy and David going fricking off, like with
each other at 5.30.
Wow.
The fricking morning.
On a Friday.
On a Friday.
It's Friday, people. You got to double down. at 5.30 in the fricking morning. On a Friday. On a Friday.
It's Friday people.
You gotta double down.
It started at 5.06 AM with a video from David.
I'm a REM cycle and jeez.
Of the mist in the valley, I home sweet home.
Amy says, I just can't, I was just thinking about you.
He's like, I'm good, I'm ready.
Amy's like, super.
What are the weekend plans? David's like, get'm good, I'm ready. Amy's like, super, what are the weekend plans?
David's like, get my health and wellness underway.
Start figuring my business out, relax.
Blobby, blobby, blob.
What time is the card pull?
Yeah, Amy pulls cards, as you know.
Amy's jumping right in, super, pull in the card.
It's 6.40, guys, I'm sleeping as all of this is going on.
6.20, I wake up and I'm sleeping as all of this is going on. 6.25 wake up. And
I see the last thing, which is Mel, get in here. If you're up. I'm like, I love these
people. So we text back in the morning. And then all of a sudden, you're cabin and start
out. Well, David did. He came over to my house. And we did a walk in the morning. It really is like a camp.
I said, I feel like I'm in college or a camp.
I just fucking love you guys.
And then David's like, Mel, this is way better than camp.
It's fucking amazing because we can have wine here.
And then what time is that?
What time is that?
That's 7.
I was 7.
I have a 7.
Okay. And then I walk into my coffee shop and guess who's there? What time is that? I was seven, okay. I was seven, okay.
And then I walked into my coffee shop and guess who's there?
David.
And then guess who pulls in?
You, Jessie.
And then guess who pulls in?
Backseed, our other friend.
No way.
Because she was having a meeting there.
Of course.
Of course, where do you go to have a meeting?
Just don't go to number one.
Yes.
Because you're not going to establish the bond there.
Right.
Right.
How freaking cool is this?
So cool.
And this is available to you.
What did you two get out of this conversation?
It just, it's so, I want to say easy.
It's easier than we think.
Then we give it credit for.
Yeah.
I never did this even in the city when I have access
to 10 coffee shops, you know?
Yeah. Never, never tried because you just stayed in your bubble. access to 10 coffee shops, you know? Yeah.
Never, never tried because you just stayed in your bubble.
It's just so cool to go to a place and be like, oh yeah, there's my friend and then
I'm going to bring another friend here like I'm trying to meet someone this weekend for
coffee.
Nine o'clock.
Sorry, Morgan.
Done.
Nice.
Okay.
I will.
I'll do that right before I go to Jane's game.
I'll just have to say yeah.
Okay.
And so, you know, to those of you that live in a bigger city Here's the thing though your neighborhood has all these places and
your favorite place to go exercise has all these places around it
Yeah, and your kids school or your office has these four places around it and so get intentional
because
getting around it. And so get intentional because getting serious about adult friendship, stop lying
to yourself. You do have friends. Your friendships are still there. It's on you to reach out. Number two,
use the coffee shop model. Use the coffee shop model and get intentional about this. And you be the
first and you be the one pushing it and you bring the front. What I love about this is,
it's something you do anyway.
Yep.
You're having your cup of coffee anyway.
Are you gonna do it alone?
Or are you gonna do it with other people?
Like you said, Mel,
you're gonna exercise anyway.
Right.
Are you gonna do it alone?
Or are you gonna do it with other people?
You're cooking dinner anyway.
Why not invite a friend,
have both your families come on over,
enjoy the time together
and make it a friendship
moment.
And I loved what you said that friendship is a verb.
That was a really, really good point as well.
It takes a lot of, not a lot, but it takes effort and action and we're not in first grade
anymore.
I'm just show up in class.
No, you know what?
The best years of your life and the best friendships are ahead of you.
So get your ass number one, number two, number three, number four.
Yeah.
Alrighty.
I love you.
I love you.
I love you.
I love you.
I want you to have this much fun in your life.
You deserve to have this much fun and you can create it.
Give it a year.
Keep chipping away at it and you will find your people because I just did and.
Whoa.
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Whoa.
I feel like my dog must feel when he's staring at the dog food
that I'm mixing up.
I literally feel my mouth salivating as you're doing that.
I realize I haven't blinked.
Just staring at it.
Excuse me.
I'm so excited that I'm choking myself here with my own air.
And that's probably a vacuum that somebody can hear.
That's what's hitting me.
I don't know if you can hear the vacuum in the background, but things are getting cleaned
here.
You're cleaning it up.
Good job, Oakley.
Should I wait for the construction vehicle to go by?
Are we hearing the beeping?
Yeah, actually, maybe the beeping everybody is trying to get you to go, deep, deep, deep.
This is really important.
Attention, attention, attention.
Oh, and one more thing.
I know this is not a blooper.
This is the legal language.
You know what the lawyer's right and what I need to read to you.
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