The Moth - The Moth Radio Hour Holiday Special 2014: Monkeys, Megachurches, and First Elves

Episode Date: December 28, 2021

A special holiday edition of The Moth Radio Hour: Simon Doonan encounters challenges when called on to decorate the White House for Christmas, a man is hesitant to work with a ‘Hollywood’... style church in his neighborhood, a Jewish girl meets Santa, and a boy thinks his dreams have finally come true when he gets an exotic pet. This hour is hosted by The Moth’s Artistic Director, Catherine Burns. The Moth Radio Hour is produced by The Moth and Jay Allison of Atlantic Public Media in Woods Hole, Massachusetts. Hosted by: Catherine Burns Storytellers: Taylor Negron, Simon Doonan, Ophira Eisenberg, Mark Redmond

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Attention Houston! You have listened to our podcast and our radio hour, but did you know the Moth has live storytelling events at Wearhouse Live? The Moth has opened Mike's storytelling competitions called Story Slams that are open to anyone with a five-minute story to share on the night's theme. Upcoming themes include love hurts, stakes, clean, and pride. GoodLamoth.org forward slash Houston to experience a live show near you. That's the moth.org forward slash Houston. From PRX, this is the Moth Radio Hour, true stories told live. I'm Katherine Burns and this is the Moth Holiday Special.
Starting point is 00:00:56 The spirit moves in a mega-church, a Jewish girl from Canada pines for Christmas, a kid's terror of Charles Manson almost ruins the holidays. And first, this story from one of our long-time math storytellers Simon Dunin. With his holiday story, he told at the Great Hall at Cooper Union in New York City, your Simon Rybethamon. Jackie Kennedy's crystal balls were up here. Nancy Reagan's luscious red ribbons were down here. Barbara Bush's dangling orbs were over here. Yes, you've guessed it probably, right? I was in the White House holiday storage facility. They keep all the holiday decor from White House past.
Starting point is 00:02:00 There was, oh, it was just beyond Pat Nixon's little beaded orbs. It was amazing. So how did I get there? In January 2009, I get a phone call from Desiree Rogers. Hello, Bonjour, Desiree Rogers. And Ellie dropped the phone. And I thought it was one of my friends pretending to be Desiree Rogers. And then, so she said, we want you to come and decorate the White House for the holidays. We, I hope you noted, we want you. And I couldn't believe it. I thought, my God, I came to this country when I was 25 years old in the 70s. And I just had like a little Dorothy bag and a dream and a little
Starting point is 00:02:46 a little bit of cash and now I clawed my way up through the cutthroat world of window dressing and clawed my way up and wow at the age of 57 I'm getting a call from the White House press secretary, Carmen decorate the White House. I couldn't believe it and I thought well I'd just become a citizen actually about two months before the election and I'd pulled the lever for Barack Obama and I thought finally I'm a citizen I'd pull the lever and now I'm going to decorate the White House. I had visions of myself showing Sasha and Melia how to thread popcorn. I saw myself, I got really carried away really quickly. I saw myself in the organic garden clutching bow the water dog
Starting point is 00:03:49 as the first flakes of snow fell in the coming fall. So my fantasy was interrupted when Deseret said, of course we're going to have to vet you first and look through your background and everything. That's when I thought, well, forget it then, because with my rap sheet, that reckless driving conviction and getting arrested on a railway station in 1968 going to a pot festival, Yada Yada, plus my reputation as a provocateur in the field of window dressing.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I've done all these insane things. When they only have to hit Google image Simon Dune and it's going to come all this bananas stuff. I'm never going to get this job if they're going to vet me. So somehow, miraculously, I think the vetting machine must have been being repair, at the repair shop that day, but I got the job. So I went down to Washington in the spring of 2009 and went to the warehouse, rummaged around, met all my collaborators, spent days measuring things in the White House.
Starting point is 00:04:59 It's so huge. I had to measure like mantle pieces and windows and I had great collaborators, Kimberly and Sally. And we measured things and we went back and forward to the warehouse and unearth things that we thought we'll reuse some of these things because why not? Hello, recycling, why not?
Starting point is 00:05:17 And so I'm getting more and more wound up about this project because it's so huge. It's such a responsibility, but I'm getting more and more wild up about this project because it's so huge, it's such a responsibility, but I'm determined to do the Obama's proud because, you know, it's not about me, it's about them, they're house. So, then, in the warehouse, I find these crates and crates and crates of these huge plastic silver balls that are so tacky and horrible. I can only imagine that Betty Ford blessed her heart. But this must have been her hero because she was going to studio 54 and she probably thought I want some sparkle, I want some silver. But there they were, these hideous plastic orbs
Starting point is 00:06:04 in 100 million years would you ever think, oh yes, White House holiday decor. If you looked sparkle I want some silver, but there they were these hideous plastic orbs in a hundred million years would you ever think oh yes White House holiday decor if you looked at them. So I thought these this will be great there's so many of them there's 500 of them will take them all and ship them to community centers all over America and people can decoupage them and it'll involve America and Yadi Yadda. So along with all the pine berries and pepper berries and large things and Douglas fur this, that and the other all the incredible things we were we were speccing and ordering and designing. We thought we'd have this participation
Starting point is 00:06:41 component and all these 500 balls would go on the blue room tree So I'm obviously really wound up flying back forward to Washington Etc. And Deseret says we have to go and present all your ideas to Mrs. Obama So I have a meeting with her which was sort of like this Hello And then with Deseret. Hello Staring up in the air because they are literally twice my height. And as I stood there between Mrs. Obama, so beautiful, so chic, so fun, intelligent, and Desiree, so wonderful, incredible, given me this job, J'adore. So I'm between the two of them, and I realize at that moment, oh my God, I am the first elf.
Starting point is 00:07:35 So, right, I'm the first elf. So The fall The fall goes by it a blur of anticipation. I have to do all my stuff at Barney's and then I get ready because Obviously being in retail we put we install the holiday decorations on about August 15th something like that But actually the White House is very chic and restrained, and they wait till after Thanksgiving. So after Thanksgiving, I'm all revved up, ready to go, to actually install all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:14 We've been prepping and blah, blah, blah. And so I go down to Washington two days before the installation, the salahes. Yes, the chick with the sari and the iron blonde hair allegedly crashed that party and it's like, it changes everything. Suddenly there is going to be no publicity. There's like a total lockdown on any kind of publicity. Not that I cared about that or anything.
Starting point is 00:08:47 The cover of People magazine with me and Bo the Water Dog and the snow falling. So there's a total lockdown on publicity. So me and all the incredible volunteers, which was many, many women in Christmas sweaters and me and incredible people, fabulous volunteers. We pile into the White House, we start installing and you know Oprah's film crew comes through and we all have to hide in a cupboard because they don't want any publicity
Starting point is 00:09:18 and then the HGTV comes through and we have to sneak in behind a fireplace. And so, at one point, I'm on a scaffolding TV comes through and we have to sneak in behind a fireplace. So at one point, I'm on a scaffolding in the blue room and we're throwing these balls on the tree. All the ones have come in from all the community centers. And they're incredible. People have used the theme that we gave them was American monuments.
Starting point is 00:09:41 So there's like, you know, the Grand Canyon and Niagara Falls and people have done these fantastic Indian reservations. Amazing, amazing stuff that has come in. We're throwing it quickly. We have a day to do this whole installation. And I get a call from a journalist and he says, I just spoke to the press office and they're denying that you're involved. And I, you know what? what? This is a time to show that elves can take the high road. And as I trudged through the snow that night, back to the W Hotel across the street, with my little elf boots on through the snow,
Starting point is 00:10:19 I thought, I don't care that much. What's important is we knocked it out of the park. The whole White House looked unbelievable. It was so chic, so gorgeous, and beyond, I felt really, really good. Who needs publicity when you've done such a fantastic job? So, cut to December 20th, a conservative blogger who has a major conservative site sends a mole into the White House with an iPhone and takes some little tiny pictures of some of these decoupage balls that have come in from various community centers to wit, a picture of a
Starting point is 00:11:01 Pittsburgh ball. And as we all know, Pittsburgh is the birthplace of a Pittsburgh ball. And, as we all know, Pittsburgh is the birthplace of Andy Warhol, and on this ball is a tiny, postage-sized stamp of an Andy Warhol chairman Mao. So that's on one ball. Then somehow, rather, this clever little mole gets their little iPhone and finds another ball
Starting point is 00:11:24 with a drag queen on it. They find a ball with header letters on it. So header letters. Yeah, you know those old jokes, both of a nation and chovee. So they've got, and then they find a ball with Mount Rushmore, and somebody has cleverly creatively decoupaged Barack Obama's head onto one of the presidents. So these pictures have then blown up on this website and the headline is Simon Dunin introduces communist agenda and anti-family values into the White
Starting point is 00:12:01 House. And suddenly, there's banging on the door, the dormant says, you're on Fox News, there's like streaming that thing, like crazy window dresser, introduces communist agenda. I mean, nothing could be further from a kind of such a relentless the lack of this capitalist, shopping, and the limited. So, streaming, introducing Communist agenda, then it explodes on the internet. Like, it's on a million websites, Communist agenda, Communist agenda. So, at this point, I'm in the fetal position under my toad stool.
Starting point is 00:12:49 It was horrifying. And there were, um, then the death threats started. Yes, hello, Madam. It's not that funny, is it? Now. The death threats started. Somebody should bash your brains out with a baseball bat blubber. And I forwarded a few of these to the White House and they responded by a helmet. So fortunately, I mean, obviously, fortunately, this had a finite ending because Christmas ends.
Starting point is 00:13:22 So this horrible nightmare of unwanted publicity to end it, and because, thank God, there was a finite ending. It's called December 24th. So 25th. Anyway. So then my takeaway from all this is that there are really two types of people in the world.
Starting point is 00:13:45 There are little elves that go around and make everything fabulous and brilliant and gorgeous and wonderful, and then there are people who sit, blogging and tweeting about the efforts of the first group on their ever widening asses. My other takeaway from it is that really no holiday is complete without at least one drag queen and a bunch of elves. Thank you. Thank you.
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Starting point is 00:14:18 Hi. Hi. That was Simon Dumon. He's worked in fashion for over 35 years as a writer, window dresser, fashion commentator, and creative ambassador for Barney's New York. He has a column in slate and has written six books, most recently a fashion memoir called The Asylum. Simon lives in New York City with his partner in their Norwich Terrier, the Barachi. To see pictures of the White House decked out in
Starting point is 00:14:44 Simon's decorations and specifically the head of lettuce ornament, go to themoth.org. While there you can share any of the stories you've heard of this hour with your friends and family, we're also on Facebook and Twitter at TheMong. … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … The Moth Radio Hour is produced by Atlantic Public Media in Woods Hole, Massachusetts, and presented by PRX. This is the Moth Radio Hour from PRX. I'm Catherine Burns from The Moth. Holiday stories. Everyone's got them. Here's one my mother used to tell. When she was a little girl, Mama's father, my grandfather, would leave their house late at night on Christmas Eve.
Starting point is 00:16:06 He owned a five-in-dime store in the small town where they lived in rural Kentucky, surrounded by farms. Through word of mouth, her father let it be known that if there were farmers to the community who didn't have the money to buy presents for their kids, he'd meet them at the back door of his store at 9 p.m. on Christmas Eve, and whatever he had left in the shelves was theirs to take home to their families. Many of them would give him an IOU and pay him back when the crops came in that summer. Okay, so that's the spirit of Christmas, but it gets better. More than 30 years later, when I was staying with my grandmother in
Starting point is 00:16:39 the summer, the doorbell would sometimes ring. When you got to the door, there'd be no one there, but there'd be a big box of corn or tomatoes on the doorstep. Left there by the families and children of those farmers. My grandfather had died years ago, leaving my grandmother a widow way too young, and she was very happy to have those fresh vegetables. My mother always said the spirit of Santa Claus, the live and well. And I think she was right. That was my mother's story. Maybe your mother has a holiday story. If so, have her call our pitch line, which allows anyone to leave a two minute version of a story holiday or otherwise.
Starting point is 00:17:22 The number is 877-799-Moth. Again, that's 877-799-Moth. Again that's 877-799-Moth or you can Now we're going to hear from Mark Redmond, who he met when he called our pitchline a few years ago. Here he is telling a story to his hometown crowd in Burlington, Vermont. So I moved to Vermont a little over 10 years ago with my wife and child, and we bought a house in Essex. It's a town about 25 minutes from here. And right before we moved into the house, we took a little walking tour of the neighborhood, and we met a neighbor, and she said, oh, you're going to love it here. There's a lot of little kids.
Starting point is 00:18:29 The school's good. It's safe. And then she asked us a question. She said, are you going to look for a church to join? I thought this was a little unusual to be getting this question. I moved up here from Yonkers and the Yon youngkers they typically don't ask you that. But I thought, well, this is Vermont, maybe that's what they ask you.
Starting point is 00:18:48 It's a little different. So I said, well, we're Catholics, so you will probably look for a Catholic church to join. And she said, well, if you're looking for a contemporary Christian experience, that's my church. That's the church to join. So when you move in your house
Starting point is 00:19:02 and you want to learn more about my church, please come over. So we did move into the house and then I met a different neighbor. And I told her about this neighbor kind of promoting her church. And the neighbor said, oh yeah, I know what church she's talking about. We call that the Hollywood church. Every service on Sunday is a big production. It's big screen, multimedia, big extravaganza. I said, okay. And then I met a third neighbor, a guy down the block. And I told him about this woman promoting her church. And he said, yeah, my wife and I went to that church once. When I come back, that was messed up. So at that point I'm like, okay, okay, I'm convinced,
Starting point is 00:19:49 I'm convinced, I don't know to hear anything else. I'm getting the impression this is one of these field good churches and that's not me. I do go to church every Sunday. I classify myself as a peace and justice Catholic, meaning to me, if you're going to be spiritual, if you're going to be religious, it's about helping the poor, sheltering the homeless, feeding the hungry, civil rights, saving the planet from destruction, social justice, and the people I've always looked up to are people like Desmond Tutu, Martin Luther King, Dorothy Day, the nuns on the bus. People who really put it on the line, their faith led them to action to try and change
Starting point is 00:20:35 the world. And that's how I've tried to live my life. I studied business in college. I worked for two years on Madison Avenue. I left that to start working with homeless and at-risk kids. And I've been at it for 32 years. Here, thank you. Here in Burlington, I'm Director of Spectrum.
Starting point is 00:20:57 We work with homeless teens, kids addicted to drugs in alcohol, kids who are in trouble with the police, kids suffering from mental illness, runaways, and it's really my religious beliefs that drive why I do the work that I do. A couple of weeks later I'm at work and I get an email. It's an all-agency email from our volunteer coordinator. Because this church, the one I'm talking about, has contacted her because a group of kids there
Starting point is 00:21:30 have collected some items that donate to Spectrum, and they want someone to come that Sunday to pick up the things and say a few words to the kids. So my first reaction is, I do not want to be the one to go to this church. I don't even know I've never been there. I don't have a good feeling about this church. It reminds me of these mega churches you read about. But I'm the director. I live closer than anyone else in the organization to the church. It's like two miles away. I said
Starting point is 00:22:00 I'll go. So I showed up that Sunday, and I went inside, and I'm going in with an attitude. Are you picking that up? You're getting that? Going in with an attitude. I admit that. I said who I was. They said your golf stairs is a classroom up there.
Starting point is 00:22:16 There's a group of kids waiting for you. So I went in. It was like 20, 25 kids, little, like nine and 10 years old. So I went, and there was a couple of adults, four or five adults. So I went in and I gathered the kids around, man, I told them about spectrum and the work that we do. And they brought up this box, and I opened up the box, and had sheets and towels and soap and toothpaste.
Starting point is 00:22:39 And I remember it had dental floss, because I remember taking the dental floss out and say, this is good, because even homeless kids need to floss their teeth every night. So I'm looking at my watch, and I think, oh, wow, this is great, man, 15 minutes, I'm out of here. And the adult standing right next to me says, Mark, before you go, there's a little girl here named Emily.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And she has something special for you. Emily, will you please come up to the front? So this little girl comes walking up to the front, dragging this black duffel bag behind her, and she stands in front of me and she looks up and says, my brother died this year, and my family would like to give this to you to give to a boy at Spectrum. So I leaned over and I on Zip the Bag and it had a lot of the same stuff that had been in the box. It had soap and toothpaste and towels.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And it had a Bible, a white leather bound Bible, and it had a card. So I took the card out of the bag and somebody had written an ink on the front of the card to a young man at Spectrum. So I took the card out and pre-printed on the front. It said, always remember God is watching over you. And it had a picture of her brother pasted to the inside of the card. Now this girl's like nine years old. I'm expecting to see a little boy,
Starting point is 00:24:06 but it's a young man. It's a young guy. It looks like somebody we would work with its spectrum, and it's got the ages of his birth and his death, and he's 21 years old. And he's handsome, he looks happy, he's smiling in the picture. So I leaned over to the adult who was next to me, and I whispered to him, how did her brother die? And he whispers back, heroin overdose. When I heard that man, it was like the words ripped right through me. You know? And it was like something shifted deep inside of me in an instant.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And it was one of the last times in your life where you see things very clearly, like a Zen moment, a moment of awakening. And the first thing I saw clearly was my own blindness, my own foolishness, my own prejudice. And then I saw that, you know, maybe this church is not the kind of church that I prefer or the kind of worship that I would like, but there are a lot of really good people in this church. And some of them, like this little girl standing in front of me and her family, are in tremendous pain. And if this church is where they go to find peace and hope and healing, so what?
Starting point is 00:25:32 So what? What right do I have to judge that? So I knelt down and I looked at this girl and I said, you have my word. I am going to give this to the right young man at Spectrum. And I gave her a hug and I left. And I brought that black bag into work that week. And I told the staff the whole story. And I said, we have the perfect person. We took this homeless kid into a years ago.
Starting point is 00:25:59 He'd been living on the streets. He's been living at Spectrum ever since. He's done really well. In fact, he's gotten into college. He's moving to Vermont Technical College and Randolph. In a few weeks, he's going to live in a dorm. And he could really use this stuff. I said, great.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Give it to him. But one condition, I'm going to find the address of this girl in her family. And I want him to write a thank you note. And I know he did that. And I thought that was the end of the story, but it wasn't because a few months later I got a letter. I got a letter from the mother of this young boy who
Starting point is 00:26:34 had died. And I would get this same letter for the next two or three years in a row. And every letter would start the same way. Today would have been my son's 22nd birthday, 23rd birthday, whatever year it was. And she would enclose it check for $250. And she would write in the letter
Starting point is 00:26:53 her son's favorite restaurants. This one she writes, the little Indian restaurant on North Menuski Avenue, Nectars, Shanty on the Shore. She would say, please, take a group of your boys out to dinner with this money. In this letter she writes, the thought of a group of guys going out, having a good meal together, laughing and enjoying themselves will do me good. I wish we could be doing that with my son, but I'm blessed to be able to do this small thing in loving memory of him. The church itself over the last 10 years
Starting point is 00:27:29 has been unbelievably generous to spectrum. Food, donations, money, if I emailed them tomorrow and said, you know what, about a month? It's gonna be cold in Vermont. And we have hundreds of kids who need coats and gloves and hats and scarves our shelves will be filled within a week. That's how good they are.
Starting point is 00:27:51 And you know, I did something, I never thought I'd do. I went to one of their services. Yes I did. They had like a Christmas page in a Christmas show. Was it Hollywood? Yeah, it was a little Hollywood. They had singers and dancers and drummers and confetti and the fake snow coming out of the, you know?
Starting point is 00:28:15 But it was very sincere. I found it very meaningful and very spiritual. And at the end of the night, they packed my car with wrapped Christmas presents to take back to the kids' spectrum. Thank you. That was Mark Redman. Mark is the executive director of Spectrum Youth and Family Services
Starting point is 00:28:46 in Burlington, Vermont, where he has served since 2003. His author of The Goodness Within, reaching out to Trouble Teens with love and compassion. Our next story is from Ophiara Eisenberg. Ophiara told this story while hosting one of our open-mic story slam competitions on Christmas Eve. Here's Ophiara Eisenberg, live at the mall. I'm doing this. I'm doing this.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I have to do it because I was obsessed. Some of you know this, but I was obsessed with Santa Claus as a child. I really, and I'm Jewish, if your eyes are big, really. Are you not Japanese? I do, if you're Jewish. And I wanted to see Santa Claus so badly as a kid. I thought the one in the mall was the real thing. I've hated Hanukkah because Hanukkah sucks. Only in comparison to Christmas. It only sucks when you're in a public school and you're the only Jew, and everyone else is doing Christmas,
Starting point is 00:29:51 and you're the only one two weeks earlier, lighting a fucking candle. And maybe your parents, if your Jewish gave you eight prisons, but that is a choice that is not in the Torah or the Talmud. And our parents didn't do that. You just got socks, one of the days, and it was random. I wanted to go see Santa because I wanted to get presents.
Starting point is 00:30:18 And I knew that was the way to do it. And my mother would be like, no, you can't go see Santa. We're Jewish. And I would be like, well, who brings us presents? Because the answer as far as I was concerned was nobody. But she would make shit up. She'd be like, Moses. Like, what?
Starting point is 00:30:36 She's like, oh, yeah, Moses comes down the mountain. Every Hanukkah with a sack of draidles. And I knew that was bullshit. So, read them all one day, right close to Christmas, and that castle is amazing. Write the castle is amazing. All the characters are so happy, and the snow has sparkles in it.
Starting point is 00:30:59 And I realize what I can do is I can throw a fit because my mother will be shamed. We don't look that Jewish. I mean, if I can throw a fit because my mother will be shamed. We don't look that Jewish. I mean, if I just throw a fit going, let me see Santa in the middle of a mall. She will look like the worst mother ever. And have to let me go. And so I do that and she goes,
Starting point is 00:31:17 find, I'm just like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it. And I get in the line with all the other kids, but I don't say anything because now I'm an undercover Christian and I don't want to blow it. So I'm very quiet. I just focus on the gift I want. I'm like Barbie Dreamhouse, and I'm just repeating, just I tell you have to say, Barbie Dreamhouse that is all you have to say, that is all you have to say.
Starting point is 00:31:38 And then I get into the castle, a little elf hand beckons me in. And then I sit on Santa's lap, which is creepy, because he's just a guy. Like, he's just a man. He's just an old guy. Very creepy. And he leans down to me and he says, what would you like for Christmas, little girl? The best. Best question ever. And I looked up at him and I just went, I'm Jewish, like a fell apart, I couldn't handle it, I totally went off script. And he was like, that's okay, so am I. And I didn't know what to do with that information, so I just kept repeating it.
Starting point is 00:32:26 It's just true, or it's just true. And these mean elves came out of nowhere and like pushed me out of the castle and kids were crying. And I heard an Elphanawaki talking, going, Code 9, Jew and a lap, Code 9, Jew and a lap. And I ran out. My mother's there is kind of chaos happening and I'm running towards her and my mother's like, what is going on? I'm like, wow, I just found out Santa is Jewish. And my mother without skipping a beat goes, well is my holiday tale. That was Ophira Eisenberg. She's the author of Screw Everyone, Sleeping My Way to Monogamy.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Coming up, a Christmas celebration involving Jim Morrison, grilled cheese sandwiches, and a bullfrog named Jeremiah, when the Moth Radio Hour returns. This episode of the Moth is supported by SOTFA. SOTFA offering seven different types of handcrafted mattresses, including delivery, setup, and old mattress removal, more at SWATVA.com. And by aspiration, working to help people combat climate change with a credit card
Starting point is 00:33:52 that lets them plan to tree with every purchase. One card, zero carbon footprint. Aspiration.com slash credit. Aspiration Financial LLC. it. Aspiration Financial LLC. The Moth Radio Hour is produced by Atlantic Public Media in Woods Hole, Massachusetts, and presented by the Public Radio Exchange, PRX.org. This is the Moth Radio Hour from PRX. I'm Catherine Burns from the Moth. Our FILE holiday story was told in East Lansing, Michigan,
Starting point is 00:34:29 but takes place in the early 1970s in Southern California. Here's Taylor Negoran, live at the Moth. I was born in Los Angeles, in a house, in a canyon that was in a nest of palm trees that casted these thin, unmoving shadows like prison bars. It was very California Gothic. I am very California Gothic. I am the child of those people that you used to see in the ads for cigarettes in the back of Life magazine.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Those handsome people that were always wearing Terry cloth robes and penny loafers, smoking cigarettes, looking like they just heard the funniest joke of their life. The Marborom man met the Virginia Slims woman and had me. It's very california gothic to have your best friends mother who is a movie star, keep her cracked Oscar in the kitchen, next to the salt and the cumin and the cumidang.
Starting point is 00:36:09 It's very california gothic to see Joan Didian crying at the wheel of her green jaguar on more park below Ventura. It's very california gothic to have a cousin who is a rock star. My cousin is Chuck Negron, the lead singer for the group Three Dog Night. And he bore a startling resemblance to Charles Manson. Now when you were a kid like me in 1970 growing up in Los Angeles, you knew that you shared the city with Charles Manson and his family, because that grizzly, murderous night of Mayhem and Helter Skelter was all anybody could talk about. And for those of you who are too young to know what helter-skelter is, it's kind of like twerking but with blood.
Starting point is 00:37:13 And it was really scary, really horrifying. And my parents, they were always going out on the town. They were always getting dressed up and leaving like a madman, right? They just left me alone. They just went out. One night my father came in and he said, I want you to close all these doors and windows. I don't want these hippies to come in here and de-gut you.
Starting point is 00:37:53 You heard them. That was an option in my childhood to be de-gutted. And it loved a tremendous psychic scar on my life. It has stayed with me forever. And I'm still very disturbed by hippies and long hairs and headbands and large candles and beads and bandanas, I just don't like any of it. But I was only 12 years old. I was a tween, I was a changeling. I was changing into a man. But childhood is a place where your fears are disproportionate.
Starting point is 00:38:46 They're huge, but then so are your goals. And that's where the magic can happen in these goals. And my goal when I was a child was to own a gorilla, or a monkey or an ape. Anything from the monkey ape gorilla family, I just wanted someone to be able to play hide and go seek with, swim, shoot dice, light ironing. And my parents were these really emphatic kind of ghetto people from New York City, right?
Starting point is 00:39:30 Who didn't like animals at all. And my mother said, look, you will never, ever see a monkey walk through that door. But something very magical happened. That Christmas of 1970. You see my uncle Ishmael, that was his real name, Ishmael. He was a trucker. He had his own flat bed truck, which meant that he could follow other people around who had flat bed trucks and pick up what fell off of theirs. And one day he was closing down this raggedy ass circus varkas in the Hollywood Bowl parking
Starting point is 00:40:21 lot on the Highland. And he came across a monkey that somebody was throwing out. A live monkey named Carol. Two Rs, two Ls. And we knew it was called Carol because it had its own cage with its name on it. And that is what changed the deal with my parents because they are infatic new workers. So they said, well, if it's free, and it comes with a cage, what harm can it do? Well, Carol came to the house. I was so excited. What harm can it do?
Starting point is 00:41:05 Well, Carol came to the house. I was so excited. Carol arrived on that flatbed truck on a pile of grape fruits in his cage. And when I went out there and greeted him, and I looked into those big, ground eyes, I knew that I would understand everything that monkey had to say to me, and
Starting point is 00:41:25 that I would experience unconditional love. Well, the monkey promptly squatted under palm. And from the shadow I heard the ice clink and my mom's drink. And she said, that's your monkey. I love my monkey so much and I stuck with my monkey while everybody turned against my monkey. Sometimes they even put a sheet over its cage. I stuck with my monkey with my intentionally fucked my grandmother's mink hat and I took the blame. Carol was my most cherished early Christmas present, but Carol was not the only unexpected visitor that season. One Christmas night the San Ana wins blue to hard against the glass in cold frightening Los Angeles. I had fallen asleep into a deep Christmas sleep and I looked out the window and I saw a van pull up in front of the house, turn off and just stop.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Nothing happened for 30 minutes. Nothing happened. And I thought to myself, this is it? This is my nightmare, it's going to come true. And I thought to myself, well at least I made it to 12. Then I looked out and the door opened up and then finally this plume of smoke rolled out and these hippies came out on wobbly feet and started slinking up to the front of the house. And as the cast of Woodstock approached I felt vulnerable in my Charlie Brown sleeping t-shirt. And I waited for the physical and emotional attack to begin. There was a knock on the door. And I heard my mother's voice muffled. I knew she was dead
Starting point is 00:44:16 throat cut. I had read the papers. But then I heard her say, grilled cheese sandwiches for everyone. Why was my mother giving protein to a serial killer? And then there was a blast as my father came into my room and he said, your cousin Chuck is here, come down. And I timidly followed my father down the stairs to see in the living room what appeared to be Mama Cass Elliott, Jim Morrison, and assorted long hairs,
Starting point is 00:44:52 devouring Christmas cookies. My cousin stood, shyly holding a three-dog night album at the stereo, and he told us he was going to play a song for us that no one had ever heard before. Side one song A. Jeremiah was a bullfrog. Was a good friend of mine. I never understood a single word he said, but I helped him drink his wine. And on that cold, windy night, everyone stood up and started to dance.
Starting point is 00:45:35 My father grabbed my mother and they started to dance. I looked over in Jim Morrison. V. Jim Morrison was dancing the jitterbug with my grandmother on the coffee table. It was so extraordinary, it was so magnificent. The hippies and the long hairs were all singing along to choruses of joy to the world. Oh, the boys and girls now.
Starting point is 00:46:09 And then the song was over and someone picked up the needle and put it back at the beginning and the song continued and the dancing continued. And there's something emblematic about certain California Christmas memories, and here is one that is transcendent, rock and roll, and this is what made my monkey legendary. He came down, hurtling, down the stairs and went right up to the stereo and started dancing. Had we forgotten, Carol was a circus monkey, and this was her cue. You know I love the ladies. Her arms, his arms out stretched like rubber bands and he started picking off the ornament in the Christmas tree. Love to have my fun. The monkey started to juggle. I'm a high night rider and a rainbow flyer. A straight chute and son out of our world.
Starting point is 00:47:32 I said, a straight chute. I wish you were all there to see the expression on those stoned on it. We found out later LSD. Hippies and my grandmother as Carol, my monkey, rightfully claimed the spotlight. Glee is a very good word to use because that's what it was. Pure happiness and glee because I was 12 years old and I was alive and I had escaped Manson's knife and I had a monkey with talent. And as everybody danced and as everybody laughed
Starting point is 00:48:21 and as everybody ate cookies, I looked at my family, I looked at these people, and all of their crimes, past present and future, seemed to just spill out and dissolve into the contours of the blue shag rug. And as Carol balanced an asterion on his nose. It was just though I was looking into my future because I realized all the glorious things that could happen with music and with joy.
Starting point is 00:48:57 And that Christmas, the last one that I was ever a child, I learned a very important lesson that I'd like to pass on to you all tonight. And that's that no matter how horrible your day is and no matter how scary your night is, everything can turn on a dime and with a knock on the door. Thank you. Give him my words of full-fraud! What a good friend of mine!
Starting point is 00:49:39 That was Taylor Negron. Taylor is a stand-up comedian, actor and writer who has starred in his own HBO special and appeared on the tonight show, as well as in films such as Stuart Little, The Last Boy Scouts, and Fast Himes at Ridgemont High. Whoa! All the boys are going down! So that's it.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Happy holidays from all of us here at the Moth Radio Hour. This episode of the Moth Radio Hour was produced by me, Jay Allison and Catherine Burns, who also hosted and directed the stories in the show along with Maggie Sino and Jennifer Hickson. Co-producer is Vicki Merrick, Associate Producer Emily Couch. The rest of the Moths' leadership team includes Sarah Haberman, Sarah Austin, Janess, Meg Bulls, Kate Tellers, Jennifer Birmingham, Marina Klucche, Suzanne Rust, Brandon Grant, Inga Gladowski, Sarah Jane Johnson, and Aldi Kaza.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Most stories are true, as remembered and affirmed by the storytellers. One said note, our friend and storyteller in this hour, Taylor Negron, has to wait since this show was first broadcast. Our theme music is by the Drift, other music in this hour from Manheim Steamroller, Marco Connor, Taj Mahal, the Trans-Siberian Orchestra, the Carlur von Samble, and Three-Dodd Night. We receive funding from the National Endowment for the Arts. The Maw 3D Hour is produced by Atlantic Public Media in Woods Hole, Massachusetts, and presented by PRX.
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