The Moth - The Moth Radio Hour Holiday Special 2014: Monkeys, Megachurches, and First Elves
Episode Date: December 28, 2021A special holiday edition of The Moth Radio Hour: Simon Doonan encounters challenges when called on to decorate the White House for Christmas, a man is hesitant to work with a ‘Hollywood’... style church in his neighborhood, a Jewish girl meets Santa, and a boy thinks his dreams have finally come true when he gets an exotic pet. This hour is hosted by The Moth’s Artistic Director, Catherine Burns. The Moth Radio Hour is produced by The Moth and Jay Allison of Atlantic Public Media in Woods Hole, Massachusetts. Hosted by: Catherine Burns Storytellers: Taylor Negron, Simon Doonan, Ophira Eisenberg, Mark Redmond
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From PRX, this is the Moth Radio Hour, true stories told live.
I'm Katherine Burns and this is the Moth Holiday Special.
The spirit moves in a mega-church, a Jewish girl from Canada pines for Christmas, a kid's
terror of Charles Manson almost ruins the holidays.
And first, this story from one of our long-time math storytellers Simon Dunin.
With his holiday story, he told at the Great Hall at Cooper Union in New York City,
your Simon Rybethamon. Jackie Kennedy's crystal balls were up here. Nancy Reagan's luscious red ribbons were
down here. Barbara Bush's dangling orbs were over here. Yes, you've guessed it probably, right?
I was in the White House holiday storage facility.
They keep all the holiday decor from White House past.
There was, oh, it was just beyond Pat Nixon's little beaded orbs. It was amazing.
So how did I get there? In January 2009, I get a phone call from Desiree Rogers. Hello,
Bonjour, Desiree Rogers. And Ellie dropped the phone. And I thought it was one of my friends
pretending to be Desiree Rogers. And then, so she said, we want you to come and decorate the White House for the holidays.
We, I hope you noted, we want you.
And I couldn't believe it.
I thought, my God, I came to this country when I was 25 years old in the 70s.
And I just had like a little Dorothy bag and a dream and a little
a little bit of cash and now I clawed my way up through the cutthroat world of
window dressing and clawed my way up and wow at the age of 57 I'm getting a call from the White House
press secretary, Carmen decorate the White House. I couldn't believe it and I
thought well I'd just become a citizen actually about two months before the
election and I'd pulled the lever for Barack Obama and I thought finally I'm a
citizen I'd pull the lever and now I'm going to decorate
the White House. I had visions of myself showing Sasha and Melia how to thread popcorn.
I saw myself, I got really carried away really quickly. I saw myself in the organic garden clutching bow the water dog
as the first flakes of snow fell in the coming fall.
So my fantasy was interrupted when Deseret said,
of course we're going to have to vet you first
and look through your background and
everything.
That's when I thought, well, forget it then, because with my rap sheet, that reckless driving
conviction and getting arrested on a railway station in 1968 going to a pot festival, Yada
Yada, plus my reputation as a provocateur in the field of window dressing.
I've done all these insane things.
When they only have to hit Google image Simon Dune and it's going to come all this bananas stuff.
I'm never going to get this job if they're going to vet me.
So somehow, miraculously, I think the vetting machine must have been being repair, at the repair shop that day, but I got the job.
So I went down to Washington in the spring of 2009
and went to the warehouse, rummaged around,
met all my collaborators, spent days measuring things
in the White House.
It's so huge.
I had to measure like mantle pieces and windows
and I had great collaborators, Kimberly and Sally.
And we measured things and we went back and forward
to the warehouse and unearth things
that we thought we'll reuse some of these things
because why not?
Hello, recycling, why not?
And so I'm getting more and more wound up
about this project because it's so huge. It's such a responsibility, but I'm getting more and more wild up about this project because it's so huge, it's such a responsibility,
but I'm determined to do the Obama's proud because, you know, it's not about me, it's about them,
they're house.
So, then, in the warehouse, I find these crates and crates and crates of these huge plastic silver balls
that are so tacky and horrible. I can only imagine that Betty Ford blessed her heart.
But this must have been her hero because she was going to studio 54 and she probably thought
I want some sparkle, I want some silver. But there they were, these hideous plastic orbs
in 100 million years would you ever think, oh yes, White House holiday decor. If you looked sparkle I want some silver, but there they were these hideous plastic orbs in a hundred
million years would you ever think oh yes White House holiday decor if you looked at them.
So I thought these this will be great there's so many of them there's 500 of them will take
them all and ship them to community centers all over America and people can decoupage
them and it'll involve America and Yadi Yadda.
So along with all the pine berries and pepper berries and large things and
Douglas fur this, that and the other all the incredible things we were we
were speccing and ordering and designing. We thought we'd have this participation
component and all these 500 balls would go on the blue room tree
So I'm obviously really wound up flying back forward to Washington
Etc. And Deseret says we have to go and present all your ideas to Mrs. Obama So I have a meeting with her which was sort of like this
Hello
And then with Deseret. Hello
Staring up in the air because they are literally twice my height. And as I stood there between Mrs. Obama, so beautiful, so chic, so fun, intelligent,
and Desiree, so wonderful, incredible, given me this job, J'adore.
So I'm between the two of them, and I realize at that moment, oh my God, I am the first elf.
So, right, I'm the first elf. So
The fall
The fall goes by it a blur of anticipation. I have to do all my stuff at Barney's and then I get ready because
Obviously being in retail we put we install the holiday decorations on about August 15th something like that
But actually the White House is very chic and restrained,
and they wait till after Thanksgiving.
So after Thanksgiving, I'm all revved up, ready to go,
to actually install all this stuff.
We've been prepping and blah, blah, blah.
And so I go down to Washington two days
before the installation, the salahes.
Yes, the chick with the sari and the iron blonde hair
allegedly crashed that party and it's like,
it changes everything. Suddenly there is going to be no publicity.
There's like a total lockdown on any kind of publicity.
Not that I cared about that or anything.
The cover of People magazine with me and Bo the Water Dog and the snow falling.
So there's a total lockdown on publicity.
So me and all the incredible volunteers, which was many, many women in Christmas sweaters and me
and incredible people, fabulous volunteers.
We pile into the White House, we start installing
and you know Oprah's film crew comes through
and we all have to hide in a cupboard
because they don't want any publicity
and then the HGTV comes through
and we have to sneak in behind a fireplace.
And so, at one point, I'm on a scaffolding TV comes through and we have to sneak in behind a fireplace.
So at one point, I'm on a scaffolding in the blue room and we're throwing these balls
on the tree.
All the ones have come in from all the community centers.
And they're incredible.
People have used the theme that we gave them was American monuments.
So there's like, you know, the Grand Canyon and Niagara Falls and people
have done these fantastic Indian reservations. Amazing, amazing stuff that has come in.
We're throwing it quickly. We have a day to do this whole installation. And I get a call
from a journalist and he says, I just spoke to the press office and they're denying that
you're involved. And I, you know what? what? This is a time to show that elves can take the high road.
And as I trudged through the snow that night,
back to the W Hotel across the street,
with my little elf boots on through the snow,
I thought, I don't care that much.
What's important is we knocked it out of the park.
The whole White House looked unbelievable.
It was so chic, so gorgeous, and beyond, I felt really, really good.
Who needs publicity when you've done such a fantastic job?
So, cut to December 20th, a conservative blogger who has a major conservative site sends a mole
into the White House with an iPhone and takes some little tiny pictures of some of these
decoupage balls that have come in from various community centers to wit, a picture of a
Pittsburgh ball.
And as we all know, Pittsburgh is the birthplace of a Pittsburgh ball. And, as we all know,
Pittsburgh is the birthplace of Andy Warhol,
and on this ball is a tiny, postage-sized stamp
of an Andy Warhol chairman Mao.
So that's on one ball.
Then somehow, rather, this clever little mole
gets their little iPhone and finds another ball
with a drag queen on it.
They find a ball with header letters on it.
So header letters.
Yeah, you know those old jokes, both of a nation and chovee.
So they've got, and then they find a ball with Mount Rushmore,
and somebody has cleverly creatively decoupaged Barack Obama's head
onto one of the presidents. So these pictures have then blown up on this website and the
headline is Simon Dunin introduces communist agenda and anti-family values into the White
House. And suddenly, there's banging on the door, the dormant says,
you're on Fox News, there's like streaming that thing, like crazy window dresser,
introduces communist agenda. I mean, nothing could be further from a kind of such a relentless the lack of this capitalist, shopping, and the limited.
So, streaming, introducing Communist agenda,
then it explodes on the internet. Like, it's on a million websites, Communist agenda,
Communist agenda.
So, at this point, I'm in the fetal position
under my toad stool.
It was horrifying.
And there were, um, then the death threats started.
Yes, hello, Madam. It's not that funny, is it? Now.
The death threats started.
Somebody should bash your brains out with a baseball bat blubber.
And I forwarded a few of these to the White House and they responded by a helmet.
So fortunately, I mean, obviously, fortunately, this had a finite ending because Christmas
ends.
So this horrible nightmare of unwanted publicity
to end it, and because, thank God,
there was a finite ending.
It's called December 24th.
So 25th.
Anyway.
So then my takeaway from all this is
that there are really two types of people in the world.
There are little elves that go around and make everything fabulous and brilliant and
gorgeous and wonderful, and then there are people who sit, blogging and tweeting about
the efforts of the first group on their ever widening asses.
My other takeaway from it is that really no holiday
is complete without at least one drag queen
and a bunch of elves.
Thank you.
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That was Simon Dumon.
He's worked in fashion for over 35 years as a writer,
window dresser, fashion commentator, and creative ambassador for Barney's New York.
He has a column in slate and has written six books, most recently a fashion
memoir called The Asylum. Simon lives in New York City with his partner in their
Norwich Terrier, the Barachi. To see pictures of the White House decked out in
Simon's decorations and specifically the
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Holiday stories. Everyone's got them. Here's one my mother used to tell.
When she was a little girl, Mama's father, my grandfather, would leave their house late
at night on Christmas Eve.
He owned a five-in-dime store in the small town where they lived in rural Kentucky, surrounded
by farms.
Through word of mouth, her father let it be known that if there were farmers to the community
who didn't have the money to buy presents for their kids, he'd meet them at the back door
of his store at 9 p.m. on Christmas Eve, and whatever he had left in the shelves was
theirs to take home to their families. Many of them would give him an IOU and pay
him back when the crops came in that summer. Okay, so that's the spirit of Christmas,
but it gets better. More than 30 years later, when I was staying with my grandmother in
the summer, the doorbell would sometimes ring. When you got to the door, there'd be no
one there, but there'd be a big box of corn or tomatoes on the doorstep. Left there by the families and children of those farmers.
My grandfather had died years ago, leaving my grandmother a widow way too young,
and she was very happy to have those fresh vegetables. My mother always said the spirit of Santa Claus, the live and well. And I think she was right.
That was my mother's story. Maybe your mother has a holiday story.
If so, have her call our pitch line,
which allows anyone to leave a two minute version
of a story holiday or otherwise.
The number is 877-799-Moth. Again, that's 877-799-Moth. Again that's 877-799-Moth or you can Now we're going to hear from Mark Redmond, who he met when he called our pitchline a few
years ago.
Here he is telling a story to his hometown crowd in Burlington, Vermont. So I moved to Vermont a little over 10 years ago with my wife and child, and we bought
a house in Essex.
It's a town about 25 minutes from here.
And right before we moved into the house, we took a little walking tour of the neighborhood,
and we met a neighbor, and she said, oh, you're going to love it here.
There's a lot of little kids.
The school's good.
It's safe.
And then she asked us a question.
She said, are you going to look for a church to join?
I thought this was a little unusual to be getting this question.
I moved up here from Yonkers and the Yon youngkers they typically don't ask you that.
But I thought, well, this is Vermont,
maybe that's what they ask you.
It's a little different.
So I said, well, we're Catholics,
so you will probably look for a Catholic church to join.
And she said, well, if you're looking
for a contemporary Christian experience,
that's my church.
That's the church to join.
So when you move in your house
and you want to learn more about my church,
please come over. So we did move into the house and then I met a different neighbor.
And I told her about this neighbor kind of promoting her church. And the neighbor said,
oh yeah, I know what church she's talking about. We call that the Hollywood church. Every
service on Sunday is a big production. It's big screen, multimedia,
big extravaganza. I said, okay. And then I met a third neighbor, a guy down the
block. And I told him about this woman promoting her church. And he said, yeah, my
wife and I went to that church once. When I come back, that was messed up. So at that point I'm like, okay, okay, I'm convinced,
I'm convinced, I don't know to hear anything else. I'm getting the impression this is one of these
field good churches and that's not me. I do go to church every Sunday. I classify myself as a
peace and justice Catholic, meaning to me, if you're going to be spiritual,
if you're going to be religious, it's about helping the poor, sheltering the homeless,
feeding the hungry, civil rights, saving the planet from destruction, social justice,
and the people I've always looked up to are people like Desmond Tutu, Martin Luther King, Dorothy Day,
the nuns on the bus.
People who really put it on the line, their faith led them to action to try and change
the world.
And that's how I've tried to live my life.
I studied business in college.
I worked for two years on Madison Avenue.
I left that to start working with homeless and at-risk kids.
And I've been at it for 32 years.
Here, thank you.
Here in Burlington, I'm Director of Spectrum.
We work with homeless teens, kids addicted to drugs
in alcohol, kids who are in trouble with the police, kids
suffering from
mental illness, runaways, and it's really my religious beliefs that drive why I do the
work that I do.
A couple of weeks later I'm at work and I get an email.
It's an all-agency email from our volunteer coordinator. Because this church, the one I'm talking about,
has contacted her because a group of kids there
have collected some items that donate to Spectrum,
and they want someone to come that Sunday
to pick up the things and say a few words to the kids.
So my first reaction is, I do not want to be the one
to go to this church. I don't even know
I've never been there. I don't have a good feeling about this church. It reminds me
of these mega churches you read about. But I'm the director. I live closer than
anyone else in the organization to the church. It's like two miles away. I said
I'll go. So I showed up that Sunday, and I went inside,
and I'm going in with an attitude.
Are you picking that up?
You're getting that?
Going in with an attitude.
I admit that.
I said who I was.
They said your golf stairs is a classroom up there.
There's a group of kids waiting for you.
So I went in.
It was like 20, 25 kids, little, like nine and 10 years old.
So I went, and there was a couple of adults, four or five adults.
So I went in and I gathered the kids around, man,
I told them about spectrum and the work that we do.
And they brought up this box, and I opened up the box,
and had sheets and towels and soap and toothpaste.
And I remember it had dental floss,
because I remember taking the dental floss out and say,
this is good, because even homeless kids need to floss
their teeth every night.
So I'm looking at my watch, and I think,
oh, wow, this is great, man, 15 minutes, I'm out of here.
And the adult standing right next to me says,
Mark, before you go, there's a little girl here named Emily.
And she has something special for you.
Emily, will you please come up to
the front? So this little girl comes walking up to the front, dragging this black duffel
bag behind her, and she stands in front of me and she looks up and says, my brother died
this year, and my family would like to give this to you to give to a boy at Spectrum.
So I leaned over and I on Zip the Bag and it had a lot of the same stuff that had been
in the box.
It had soap and toothpaste and towels.
And it had a Bible, a white leather bound Bible, and it had a card.
So I took the card out of the bag and somebody had written an ink on the front of the card
to a young man at Spectrum.
So I took the card out and pre-printed on the front.
It said, always remember God is watching over you.
And it had a picture of her brother pasted to the inside of the card.
Now this girl's like nine years old.
I'm expecting to see a little boy,
but it's a young man. It's a young guy. It looks like somebody we would work with its spectrum,
and it's got the ages of his birth and his death, and he's 21 years old. And he's handsome,
he looks happy, he's smiling in the picture. So I leaned over to the adult who was next to me,
and I whispered to him, how did her brother die?
And he whispers back, heroin overdose.
When I heard that man, it was like the words ripped right through me.
You know?
And it was like something shifted deep inside of me in an instant.
And it was one of the last times in your life where you see things very clearly,
like a Zen moment, a moment of awakening.
And the first thing I saw clearly was my own blindness,
my own foolishness, my own prejudice.
And then I saw that, you know, maybe this church is
not the kind of church that I prefer or the kind of worship that I would like,
but there are a lot of really good people in this church. And some of them,
like this little girl standing in front of me and her family, are in tremendous pain. And if this church is where they go to find peace and hope and healing, so what?
So what? What right do I have to judge that?
So I knelt down and I looked at this girl and I said, you have my word.
I am going to give this to the right young man at Spectrum.
And I gave her a hug and I left.
And I brought that black bag into work that week.
And I told the staff the whole story.
And I said, we have the perfect person.
We took this homeless kid into a years ago.
He'd been living on the streets.
He's been living at Spectrum ever since.
He's done really well.
In fact, he's gotten into college.
He's moving to Vermont Technical College and Randolph.
In a few weeks, he's going to live in a dorm.
And he could really use this stuff.
I said, great.
Give it to him.
But one condition, I'm going to find the address of this girl
in her family.
And I want him to write a thank you note.
And I know he did that.
And I thought that was the end of the story,
but it wasn't because a few months later I got a letter.
I got a letter from the mother of this young boy who
had died.
And I would get this same letter for the next two or three
years in a row.
And every letter would start the same way.
Today would have been my son's 22nd birthday,
23rd birthday, whatever year it was.
And she would enclose it check for $250.
And she would write in the letter
her son's favorite restaurants.
This one she writes, the little Indian restaurant
on North Menuski Avenue, Nectars, Shanty on the Shore.
She would say, please, take a group of your boys out to dinner with
this money. In this letter she writes, the thought of a group of guys going out, having
a good meal together, laughing and enjoying themselves will do me good. I wish we could
be doing that with my son, but I'm blessed to be able to do this small thing in loving memory of him.
The church itself over the last 10 years
has been unbelievably generous to spectrum.
Food, donations, money, if I emailed them tomorrow
and said, you know what, about a month?
It's gonna be cold in Vermont.
And we have hundreds of kids who need coats
and gloves and hats and scarves our
shelves will be filled within a week.
That's how good they are.
And you know, I did something, I never thought I'd do.
I went to one of their services.
Yes I did.
They had like a Christmas page in a Christmas show.
Was it Hollywood?
Yeah, it was a little Hollywood.
They had singers and dancers and drummers
and confetti and the fake snow coming out of the, you know?
But it was very sincere.
I found it very meaningful and very spiritual.
And at the end of the night, they packed my car
with wrapped Christmas presents to take
back to the kids' spectrum.
Thank you.
That was Mark Redman.
Mark is the executive director of Spectrum Youth and Family Services
in Burlington, Vermont, where he has served since 2003. His author of The Goodness Within,
reaching out to Trouble Teens with love and compassion.
Our next story is from Ophiara Eisenberg.
Ophiara told this story while hosting one of our open-mic story slam competitions on
Christmas Eve.
Here's Ophiara Eisenberg, live at the mall.
I'm doing this.
I'm doing this.
I have to do it because I was obsessed. Some of you
know this, but I was obsessed with Santa Claus as a child. I really, and I'm Jewish,
if your eyes are big, really. Are you not Japanese? I do, if you're Jewish. And I wanted to see
Santa Claus so badly as a kid. I thought the one in the mall was the real thing. I've
hated Hanukkah because Hanukkah sucks. Only in comparison to Christmas.
It only sucks when you're in a public school
and you're the only Jew,
and everyone else is doing Christmas,
and you're the only one two weeks earlier,
lighting a fucking candle.
And maybe your parents, if your Jewish gave you eight prisons,
but that is a choice that is not in the Torah
or the Talmud.
And our parents didn't do that.
You just got socks, one of the days, and it was random.
I wanted to go see Santa because I wanted to get presents.
And I knew that was the way to do it.
And my mother would be like, no, you can't go see Santa.
We're Jewish.
And I would be like, well, who brings us presents?
Because the answer as far as I was concerned was nobody.
But she would make shit up.
She'd be like, Moses.
Like, what?
She's like, oh, yeah, Moses comes down the mountain.
Every Hanukkah with a sack of draidles.
And I knew that was bullshit.
So, read them all one day, right close to Christmas,
and that castle is amazing.
Write the castle is amazing.
All the characters are so happy,
and the snow has sparkles in it.
And I realize what I can do is I can throw a fit
because my mother will be shamed. We don't look that Jewish. I mean, if I can throw a fit because my mother will be shamed.
We don't look that Jewish.
I mean, if I just throw a fit going,
let me see Santa in the middle of a mall.
She will look like the worst mother ever.
And have to let me go.
And so I do that and she goes,
find, I'm just like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it. And I get in the line with all the other kids, but I don't say anything because now I'm an undercover
Christian and I don't want to blow it.
So I'm very quiet.
I just focus on the gift I want.
I'm like Barbie Dreamhouse, and I'm just repeating,
just I tell you have to say,
Barbie Dreamhouse that is all you have to say,
that is all you have to say.
And then I get into the castle,
a little elf hand beckons me in.
And then I sit on Santa's lap, which is creepy, because he's just a
guy. Like, he's just a man. He's just an old guy. Very creepy. And he leans down to me and
he says, what would you like for Christmas, little girl? The best. Best question ever.
And I looked up at him and I just went, I'm Jewish, like a fell apart, I couldn't
handle it, I totally went off script. And he was like, that's okay, so am I.
And I didn't know what to do with that information, so I just kept repeating it.
It's just true, or it's just true.
And these mean elves came out of nowhere and like pushed me out of the castle and kids
were crying.
And I heard an Elphanawaki talking, going, Code 9, Jew and a lap, Code 9, Jew and a lap.
And I ran out. My mother's there is kind of chaos happening and I'm running
towards her and my mother's like, what is going on? I'm like, wow, I just found out Santa
is Jewish. And my mother without skipping a beat goes, well is my holiday tale.
That was Ophira Eisenberg. She's the author of Screw Everyone, Sleeping My Way to Monogamy.
Coming up, a Christmas celebration involving Jim Morrison, grilled cheese sandwiches, and a bullfrog named Jeremiah,
when the Moth Radio Hour returns.
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This is the Moth Radio Hour from PRX. I'm Catherine Burns from the Moth.
Our FILE holiday story was told in East Lansing, Michigan,
but takes place in the early 1970s in Southern California.
Here's Taylor Negoran, live at the Moth. I was born in Los Angeles, in a house, in a canyon that was in a nest of palm trees that casted these thin,
unmoving shadows like prison bars.
It was very California Gothic.
I am very California Gothic.
I am the child of those people
that you used to see in the ads for cigarettes
in the back of Life magazine.
Those handsome people that were always wearing
Terry cloth robes and penny loafers,
smoking cigarettes, looking like they just heard
the funniest joke of their life.
The Marborom man met the Virginia Slims woman and had me.
It's very california gothic to have your best friends mother who is a movie star, keep
her cracked Oscar in the kitchen,
next to the salt and the cumin and the cumidang.
It's very california gothic to see Joan Didian crying
at the wheel of her green jaguar on more park below Ventura.
It's very california gothic to have a cousin who is a rock star. My
cousin is Chuck Negron, the lead singer for the group Three Dog Night. And he bore a
startling resemblance to Charles Manson. Now when you were a kid like me in 1970 growing up in Los Angeles, you knew that you shared
the city with Charles Manson and his family, because that grizzly, murderous night of
Mayhem and Helter Skelter was all anybody could talk about. And for those of you who are too young to know what helter-skelter is, it's kind of like
twerking but with blood.
And it was really scary, really horrifying.
And my parents, they were always going out on the town.
They were always getting dressed up and leaving like a madman, right?
They just left me alone.
They just went out.
One night my father came in and he said,
I want you to close all these doors and windows.
I don't want these hippies to come in here and de-gut you.
You heard them.
That was an option in my childhood to be de-gutted.
And it loved a tremendous psychic scar on my life. It has stayed with me forever.
And I'm still very disturbed by hippies and long hairs and headbands and large candles and beads and bandanas, I just don't like any of it.
But I was only 12 years old.
I was a tween, I was a changeling.
I was changing into a man.
But childhood is a place where your fears are disproportionate.
They're huge, but then so are your goals.
And that's where the magic can happen in these goals.
And my goal when I was a child was to own a gorilla,
or a monkey or an ape.
Anything from the monkey ape gorilla family,
I just wanted someone to be able to play hide and go
seek with, swim, shoot dice, light ironing.
And my parents were these really emphatic kind of ghetto people from New York City, right?
Who didn't like animals at all.
And my mother said, look, you will never, ever see a monkey walk through that door.
But something very magical happened.
That Christmas of 1970. You see my uncle Ishmael, that was his real name, Ishmael.
He was a trucker.
He had his own flat bed truck, which meant that he could follow other people around
who had flat bed trucks and pick up what fell off of theirs.
And one day he was closing down this raggedy ass circus varkas in the Hollywood Bowl parking
lot on the Highland.
And he came across a monkey that somebody was throwing out.
A live monkey named Carol.
Two Rs, two Ls.
And we knew it was called Carol because it had its own cage with its name on it.
And that is what changed the deal with my parents because they are infatic new workers.
So they said, well, if it's free, and it comes with a cage, what harm can it do?
Well, Carol came to the house. I was so excited. What harm can it do?
Well, Carol came to the house.
I was so excited.
Carol arrived on that flatbed truck on a pile of grape fruits
in his cage.
And when I went out there and greeted him,
and I looked into those big, ground eyes,
I knew that I would understand everything
that monkey had to say to me, and
that I would experience unconditional love. Well, the monkey promptly squatted under palm.
And from the shadow I heard the ice clink and my mom's drink.
And she said, that's your monkey. I love my monkey so much and I stuck with my monkey while everybody turned against
my monkey. Sometimes they even put a sheet over its cage. I stuck with my monkey with my intentionally fucked my grandmother's mink hat and I took the blame.
Carol was my most cherished early Christmas present, but Carol was not the only
unexpected visitor that season. One Christmas night the San Ana wins blue to
hard against the glass in cold frightening Los Angeles. I had fallen asleep into a deep Christmas sleep and I looked out the window and I saw a van
pull up in front of the house, turn off and just stop.
Nothing happened for 30 minutes.
Nothing happened.
And I thought to myself, this is it? This is my nightmare, it's going
to come true. And I thought to myself, well at least I made it to 12. Then I looked
out and the door opened up and then finally this plume of smoke rolled out and these hippies came out on
wobbly feet and started slinking up to the front of the house. And as the cast of
Woodstock approached I felt vulnerable in my Charlie Brown sleeping t-shirt. And I waited for the physical and emotional attack to begin.
There was a knock on the door. And I heard my mother's voice muffled. I knew she was dead
throat cut. I had read the papers. But then I heard her say, grilled cheese sandwiches for everyone.
Why was my mother giving protein to a serial killer?
And then there was a blast as my father came into my room
and he said, your cousin Chuck is here, come down.
And I timidly followed my father down the stairs
to see in the living room
what appeared to be Mama Cass Elliott,
Jim Morrison, and assorted long hairs,
devouring Christmas cookies.
My cousin stood, shyly holding a three-dog night album
at the stereo, and he told us he was going to play a song
for us that no one had ever heard before.
Side one song A.
Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
Was a good friend of mine. I never understood a single word he said, but I helped him drink his wine.
And on that cold, windy night, everyone stood up and started to dance.
My father grabbed my mother and they started to dance.
I looked over in Jim Morrison.
V. Jim Morrison was dancing the jitterbug
with my grandmother on the coffee table.
It was so extraordinary, it was so magnificent.
The hippies and the long hairs were all singing along
to choruses of joy to the world.
Oh, the boys and girls now.
And then the song was over and someone picked up the needle and put it back at the beginning and the song continued and the dancing continued.
And there's something emblematic about certain California Christmas memories, and here is one that is transcendent, rock
and roll, and this is what made my monkey legendary. He came down, hurtling, down the stairs and went right up to the stereo and started dancing.
Had we forgotten, Carol was a circus monkey, and this was her cue.
You know I love the ladies. Her arms, his arms out stretched like rubber bands and
he started picking off the ornament in the Christmas tree. Love to have my fun.
The monkey started to juggle.
I'm a high night rider and a rainbow flyer. A straight chute and son out of our world.
I said, a straight chute.
I wish you were all there to see the expression on those stoned on it.
We found out later LSD. Hippies and my grandmother as Carol, my
monkey, rightfully claimed the spotlight. Glee is a very good word to use
because that's what it was. Pure happiness and glee because I was 12 years old and I was alive
and I had escaped Manson's knife
and I had a monkey with talent.
And as everybody danced and as everybody laughed
and as everybody ate cookies, I looked at my family, I looked at these people,
and all of their crimes, past present and future,
seemed to just spill out and dissolve
into the contours of the blue shag rug.
And as Carol balanced an asterion on his nose.
It was just though I was looking into my future
because I realized all the glorious things
that could happen with music and with joy.
And that Christmas, the last one that I was ever a child,
I learned a very important lesson
that I'd like to pass
on to you all tonight.
And that's that no matter how horrible your day is and no matter how scary your night is,
everything can turn on a dime and with a knock on the door.
Thank you. Give him my words of full-fraud!
What a good friend of mine!
That was Taylor Negron.
Taylor is a stand-up comedian, actor and writer
who has starred in his own HBO special and appeared on the tonight show,
as well as in films such as Stuart Little, The Last Boy Scouts,
and Fast Himes at Ridgemont High.
Whoa!
All the boys are going down!
So that's it.
Happy holidays from all of us here at the Moth Radio Hour.
This episode of the Moth Radio Hour was produced by me, Jay Allison and Catherine Burns, who
also hosted and directed the stories in the
show along with Maggie Sino and Jennifer Hickson.
Co-producer is Vicki Merrick, Associate Producer Emily Couch.
The rest of the Moths' leadership team includes Sarah Haberman, Sarah Austin, Janess, Meg Bulls,
Kate Tellers, Jennifer Birmingham, Marina Klucche, Suzanne Rust, Brandon Grant, Inga Gladowski, Sarah
Jane Johnson, and Aldi Kaza.
Most stories are true, as remembered and affirmed by the storytellers.
One said note, our friend and storyteller in this hour, Taylor Negron, has to wait since
this show was first broadcast.
Our theme music is by the Drift, other music in this hour from Manheim Steamroller, Marco
Connor, Taj Mahal, the Trans-Siberian Orchestra, the Carlur von Samble, and Three-Dodd Night.
We receive funding from the National Endowment for the Arts.
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