The Nateland Podcast - #37 Old West
Episode Date: March 10, 2021On this week's podcast, we visit the Old West. Nate, Aaron, and Brian discuss famous outlaws like Jesse James and Billy The Kid but spend more time discussing the origin of famous door knocks and deba...ting who would be the first one eaten if they had to resort to cannibalism.  Co-hosts: Brian Bates ( https://www.instagram.com/brianbatescomic) & Aaron Weber ( https://www.instagram.com/realaaronweber)  Podcast produced by Nate & Laura Bargatze Recording & Editing by Genovations Media https://www.natebargatze.com https://www.allthingscomedy.com https://www.genovationsmedia.com Email - Nateland@NateBargatze.com  magicspoon.com/NATE vuori.com/nate
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Hello, folks. Welcome to Nateland.
Welcome, everybody. My voice is still waking up. This is an early one.
I don't want to tell people what time it is.
Because it's not that early, really. It feels very early. It feels early. People to be like, God, these guys got after it in the morning.
And, I mean, it is 11.15.
It's later than your Innsworth set.
Yeah.
It's definitely early for me.
Not early.
I get up and I got to just go.
I got to go to bed early.
I think I went to bed at 12.30 last night.
I had a long weekend or a long week
because i was in i was at phoenix stand up live uh and we did six shows and i golfed every day
one being this hat silver leaf uh but it and we played every day every morning yeah and so
and nothing was like early but it was like nine you know we had to leave at like
nine or eight thirty in the morning and then uh i mean and so then i was like pretty beat
and i got back last night uh and then woke up today at like 10 30 right before y'all got here
shows went well though shows? Shows were great.
It was fun.
It was, yeah, everybody was nice.
I had a lot of people I had to see, a lot of,
I got a couple friends, Amanda and Tracy,
they've been coming to shows for a long time.
I saw them.
They've been coming, you know,
because you always have some people come that come before any of this,
you know, before now now before people were coming
to shows uh but they did uh yeah shows are sold out nick or mick was with me uh so we did to get
we had a very funny uh jill kimmel was the host jimmy kimmel's sister yeah she's a very funny
comedian and so we all got to hang out and uh you know they did they had
they had to do so uh that's it's a big room and uh it was like 300 people but that's half
and because they so they in arizona they opened up where you could it could be uh you know like
they're saying like it's full capacity but you still have to be six feet apart.
So you can't really
still be full capacity.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I also saw in Phoenix,
it was a van
that had a massage,
a massage thing
on the side of the van.
I mean,
side of the road.
Like a mobile massage.
Oh.
Like you pulled over.
Yeah.
And then there would be
a massage.
That might be
not a legal one.
I'm not imagining.
Special massage.
It's like the people that sell purses on the side of the road in New York.
I mean, side of the sidewalk.
Yeah, it was like you could pull over and just get a massage.
I don't know who.
We should have went in it.
Do you ever, when you're playing charity golf tournaments, scrambles,
have you ever had one where they have a masseuse out there?
Yeah.
Do you do it? Yeah, I've doneuse out there yeah do you do it yeah i've
done it yeah uh i've done it uh like once like you just sit there and they do like it's like
five minutes yeah just out there on the course yeah on a hole and so they're just having yeah
like a girl out there and she just you get a quick massage and you kind of get you got to do it you
got to be all right it's all part that's what part of it have you done one yeah i did it and i was i mean i was
hitting balls i was so tense and frustrated and then i sit down and she and it relaxes me
and i was like oh my god i feel so much and then i t off and just almost hit her with the ball
too loose too loose and then i'm just tense again yeah yeah like having left her i'm
already 10 yeah could we do it again you should hit maybe you should hit first then do it yeah
you know just to because you you're you want to be able to walk with the full tense tension that
you're bringing to the table when you go to that table you got to have a full attention
uh and then you got to do it. Yeah.
Yeah, it was a fun.
It's hot out there.
It's very weird to be.
We were playing golf.
It's like back to summer. It feels like summer here.
Yeah.
85 degrees.
I think I got sun poised in one day.
I don't know if that's true.
But it was, are you breathing?
Is there breathing into this microphone?
I'm hearing it.
Oh, yeah.
I took my headphones off.
Yeah.
Do you hear it?
Yeah.
You still hear it?
I've been hearing it the whole episode.
I took my headphones off because it was making me laugh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is it?
You know, I don't want to, you know.
I don't want to single anybody out.
I don't want to single anybody out. I don't want to single anybody out.
So is it me?
Yes.
That's all right.
Somehow.
That's all right.
I think people get used to it.
It's like background music.
All right.
You said it's like background music.
You just get used to it.
I think people get used to it.
I think they like it.
You know, they go, oh, wow, this is nice. is nice someone goes there something's wrong people driving their cars looking around like
thinking something's wrong with their tires yeah it's a flat am i getting a flat you just just
someone hearing that noise just pulled into a discount tire i don't know i'm hearing like a
little like something you know And then the guy's like
I don't know
I think I hear it
Now we hear
Alright
Yeah this one's gonna be
This one is not even
Probably gonna get out
We're gonna have to
Shut down the whole podcast
Alright as usual
We're gonna start
Hearing from you guys.
So first up, Jesse Jean.
Hey, is that Jesse Jean?
I don't know.
It just made me laugh.
Oh, okay.
I was like, that's, I mean, it's pretty basic.
Hey, y'all.
Love the podcast.
And you guys are the only show I listen to religiously.
My favorite part is y'all name each show based on the topics.
But then the episode gets hijacked by Nate going off on a tangent about
something unrelated,
like Bojangles pronunciations of the word mature.
And then the last 10 minutes of each episode is scrambling to wrap up the
actual topic.
Can't get enough of this podcast.
Great work.
Uh,
yep.
Well,
we have,
I guess if we don't talk about,
well,
I mean,
you had to talk about Mature.
Everybody that saw that clip,
like on Instagram,
they said that.
They were like,
you know,
because we didn't bring it up.
It wasn't immediate.
Right.
It was like you said it
and then there was a couple seconds.
Yeah.
And so everybody,
you know,
was thinking that.
Right.
Yeah.
What do you mean?
Like, are we going to say something about, like, if we had just posted that and never addressed that you said mature.
Yeah.
But that wasn't true.
How do you, I think I say, you say versatile?
Versatile, probably.
Versatile, I think so.
I know it's in your Biori ads.
Yeah. Versatility, I think so. I know it's in your Biori ads. Yeah.
Versatility?
I say versatile.
Versatile.
Comfortable and versatile clothing.
Is that right?
I think they're both right.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it's a versatile word.
It's a word that can be used many different ways.
That's the point of that word.
That is actually a pretty good word. They came up with a word that you can be used many different ways. That's the point of that word. That is actually a pretty good word.
They came up with a word that you can say it a different way.
And you're like, what does it mean?
It means that.
It means exactly that.
It means exactly that.
Wow.
Yeah, it's deep.
Eric Wooten.
There's actually a way to get the stat.
There is actually a way to get the stat on how many kids learned an instrument
because of Guitar Hero.
If Aaron took real classes, he would have been able to answer Nate
when he asked how they got that stat.
The chances I can teach you all in this comment is slim,
but I will say basically they can do surveys and ask kids why they learned an instrument
and extrapolate from there. There's a whole mathematical method to it that is pretty
accurate. They taught that in my stats class in college. I missed out on the friendship class,
but I did learn the math behind how they derive stats. So that's how they do it.
Yeah. Well, this is a horrible explanation
from eric he goes i don't want to get into it but they ask kids questions and then they just
kind of go from there it's like yeah yeah of course they do yeah i did a little research on
the 20 of kids in the uk yeah we got maybe it's not you do you hear like uh it's not you. Do you hear like a... It's breathing.
Okay.
Pull the mic away.
All right.
I thought last time you said get closer.
I mean, you know, it's a moving problem.
I think.
Yeah.
It's a versatile problem. It's a versatile problem.
I mean, if you end up still in this room
by the time this podcast is over, it'll be
there's a chance we're going to have you
sustaining a ladder
behind that window.
You're just going to have to hold on.
We got the ladders out there, I'll tell you that.
Can I read this?
What? Yeah.
I did a research on
I'm so insecure now about even breathing i know you
should be uh i did research about guitar hero and 20 of kids in the uk yeah uh found a little bit
it was a study done by a group organization called youth music which i admit sounds made up
but they found that 2.5 million out of 12 million kids in the UK
learned to play instruments after doing Guitar Hero.
So that's the group.
And you said it was all made up.
I just want to share that's what I found so far.
Yeah.
That's a lot of kids.
Yeah, it's a lot of kids.
20% apparently.
Yeah.
It's impressive.
Yeah. You know, stats, man. I took a lot of kids. Yeah, it's a lot of kids. 20% apparently. Yeah. It's impressive. Yeah.
You know, stats, man.
I took a stats class too.
I don't want you to just think I just took friendship classes.
I'll tell you what.
Yeah, I don't know if you have comments about it.
People did not like my take on college.
Did you have any comments about that or no?
There's a few comments in here, yeah.
We'll get to them.
If they didn't,'ll just yeah i mean i got some direct messages not thrilled brandon alberta alberta
i took a class called creativity and culture and had to read a book that the professor wrote
called rhyming with orange he's just pointing out another crazy class that yeah
take college the one in a book called rhyming with i'm guessing his professor what it says he
wrote that book you can write some books man people people nothing rhymes with orange though
and that's the point you ever seen that interview with eminem aren't you glad i didn't say orange
yeah well that's the same they ask eminem and i't you glad I didn't say orange? Yeah. Well, that's the same.
They ask Eminem in, I think it was 60 Minutes.
They say, can you rhyme something with orange? And he goes, I put my orange four-inch door hinge in storage and ate porridge with George.
Oh, wow.
That's pretty impressive.
Just off the top.
He just said that.
Yeah.
And they're like, and you're insane.
Yeah. Well, he just kind of goes along. i don't think that rhymes with orange well he say you take orange and you split it up into two-syllable
orange yeah you just say it a little bit differently and then that opens up a lot of
yeah yeah yeah say banana and stuff really comes together you know that's basically that logic well what i do is i just say
apple and then i go snapple and plapple and papple and you're like oh so just yeah yeah i don't
and you're like but does it rhyme with orange though can you do orange because yeah i can do
orange i just change it to red and then i do bread and spread. And you're like, you're not answering the question, Eminem.
Marshall.
Jim Freeman.
The best class I took was the meat we eat.
Learning about the different cuts of beef and pork.
I was an architecture major.
Yeah, I mean, people get getting mad about this college thing.
I mean, come on.
More and more.
Zoso Dubs.
Zusu.
Zoso Dubs.
There could be a whole television show tracking Nate's journey through college.
I'd watch it on repeat.
Yeah.
I thought about trying to pitch something about just going back to school.
Yeah.
And learning stuff.
I'd love to take some of those classes.
Tom Stanton.
I'm a high school teacher in Albany, New York.
I'm the English department chair and teach an AP lit course.
I want to invite you to teach a lesson on any topic you want.
My head of school is a huge fan of yours and would help my career if I were the teacher who got you to be a guest lecturer.
My only suggestion is that Aaron and Beefburger co-teach with you.
Love the show, especially when you sit there discussing asinine facts about states that
a fifth grader would think is too dumb to put into an essay.
Those are the stats I like.
Yeah.
What would you talk about in your AP Lit class?
I mean, if I had to do, like, a serious one, I mean, I would talk about comedy and, like, you know.
I could talk about comedy all day long.
Yeah.
And just, like, the art of, I don't know, like, speaking, saying words, you know.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Well, you could do any topic you want.
Well, that one would be serious. The hard part there, you go, you know. I don't know. Yeah. Well, you could do any topic you want. Well, that one would be serious.
The hard part that you go there, yeah.
Or it could be fun to go with teaching clue.
Like, here's the stuff I don't think you need to learn at college.
You could be an adjunct teacher.
Not even an adjunct professor.
Yeah, just an adjunct teacher.
That's less.
I'm a little less.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm an adjunct substitute teacher.
I don't even get to do.
You get like 40 bucks at the end of the day.
They just give you some cash and then you're for the,
for gas.
They pay for your gas.
For your gas.
Nathan Hearn.
I'm a student at Virginia tech and I can confirm that inner Sandman is the
most exhilarating experience I have ever had.
We have registered on the seismograph three times.
That is the most out of any other college stadium.
Yeah, I mean, I think that's what it is.
You know, I mean, I'm definitely going to go to a Virginia Tech game.
I want to see that.
I mean, that's such a cool thing.
A night game.
Yeah.
That's where you should enroll.
In Virginia Tech?
I don't think I can get in.
I mean, you've got to have great – can you just go?
You can just show up and sit in classes.
Audit a class.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
And you don't have to be at the school for that?
You can go to any college at any time
And just sit in the class if you want
Could you do that over
And just get college that way?
You could
But you wouldn't get a diploma
You wouldn't get a degree
But you get to
Say I've just been going to classes
Yeah
Yeah
I guess so
If I don't care about the paper
Yeah right
If you just want to learn what they're teaching
Like an adjunct student and then go in and...
You can be an adjunct student.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Gregory Padula.
Nate talked about the song Freshman coming out while he was in high school.
Then proceeded to say that song reminded him of his friends every time he hears it.
I wonder if he knows that song is about a high school student committing suicide.
No, absolutely not.
I listen to it and actually pretty happy when I listen to it.
I have no idea.
Well, we learned that about Nate.
He doesn't listen to the lyrics of songs.
I can even have the words memorized, but they're not landing.
There's no comprehension
yeah i don't listen to it as a story you like don't fear the reaper and freshman both about
suicides two of your favorite songs two of the songs that i played when my daughter was born uh
they're
just set the mood and the doctor asked to turn it off did you do the thing you know some pregnant
mothers will play music into their stomach you're just pumping in verve pipe yeah the whole
the freshman over and over again it's not loop now i'm listening to the driver's license by olivia
something whatever olivia it's the number one song.
Rodriguez, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a fun one.
And that's probably sad.
It just doesn't register.
It is a sad song, yeah.
Yeah.
But it's not about somebody killing themselves.
No.
No.
Could be, though.
We haven't heard the next song she's going to come out with.
Well, what happens to that girl?
Matt Parrish. My parents got my sister and me a Nintendo for Christmas song she's gonna come out so that well what happens to that girl matt parish my parents
got my sister and me a nintendo for christmas with mario brothers and tetris and after making
us go to bed early on christmas night my mom stayed up until about 3 a.m and beat mario brothers
she was waiting on us to wake up the next morning to tell us she beat it i'll never forget being mad
that my mom beat my game before i could. We were homeschooled in elementary,
and she would make us do her schoolwork while she played Dr. Mario.
To this day, my mom was always my least favorite teacher because of that.
She was his only teacher probably, right?
Homeschool.
That's pretty crazy.
She just stayed up and beat it.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
I mean, I feel like it took a lot longer.
And your mom played. That know? Yeah. I mean, I feel like it took a lot longer. And your mom played.
That's pretty crazy.
Danny Sanchez.
The original PlayStation is gray.
They released a different model named PS1 that was white.
Thank you.
Thank you, Danny.
A lot of people called you out, Aaron.
I want to be clear.
I wasn't saying that the color of the playstation was white but if you put
the playstation the original playstation and playstation 2 which is black and you said grab
the white one you would be insane not to grab the one that's gray that's all i was trying to say
that doesn't even make sense.
So they just had the gray one and the black one,
and someone said grab the white one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If I'm trying to differentiate between the two,
and I just go, oh, there's a white one and a black one.
I would think you don't know the word gray in your vocabulary.
That's what I would assume is that, oh, this guy doesn't,
he hasn't heard about gray. And then I would probably talk to you about gray.
I said, I said, yeah,
that's a good compromise between gray and white. And then somebody was like,
yeah, that's called this light gray. That's what that's called. I get it.
I'm just backtracking a little bit.
Trying to stay in your ground. Yeah. Yeah. That's the key. Hazel.
Hey, Nate, did you know your new special comes out the same day
as the new Justice League movie?
Figured I'd break it to you.
I know what I'm watching, but I'll still probably check your thing out
the day after or something.
Yeah, I mean, it was not like they told me, hey, by the way.
It was supposed to come out on the 16th, and then they moved it to the 18th.
So it was almost like we were trying to move it to the Justice League thing.
Is Justice League coming out on Netflix?
HBO Max.
Oh.
It accidentally leaked yesterday for a short time.
Well, go watch it.
I don't think people watched it.
Yeah, go download the leak.
How long is it?
Watch it early.
Four hours.
Wait, so they've already come out with it.
You're going to see the same movie, just extra stuff?
Supposedly, it's very different.
This is the Zack Snyder version, and he was the original director,
and then he got removed from it, and then someone else did it.
Why did he get removed?
I think creative differences or something.
So now this is his version.
His version.
So all he did was recut it. They didn't act it. I think Creative Differences or something. So now this is his version. His version. So they're giving you...
So all he did was like recut it.
They didn't act it.
I mean, if it's four hours, there's obviously a ton in it that wasn't in the original.
Yeah.
But I mean, did they act again?
Like, did they...
No, I don't think so.
I think he's just taking everything they shot and...
Redoing it.
That's pretty crazy.
So everybody's going to go pay for a movie that's already been done,
and they're just like, well, we just got a guy that redid it.
Like, did no one like the first Justice League?
It was okay.
I mean, I don't think people loved it.
I like the idea of doing that, but you're releasing extra stuff,
so you're just like, all right, we're going to.
And I guess it's cool to see. I'm not trying to. I know people go nuts about this kind of stuff. So you're just like, all right, we're going to, and I guess it's cool to see.
I'm not trying to,
I know people go nuts about this kind of stuff,
but I mean,
I'm just letting you know that what extra work are they doing?
This is the,
that's the old one,
2017.
So it wasn't good.
40% on rotten tomatoes.
Yeah.
And then,
so now they're just like, all right, well, the same stuff.
We're just going to redo it.
I guess it'll be interesting to see how much they change.
Yeah.
Like, that's kind of fun.
Brian and I are going to do a recut of your Netflix special and release that.
And that's kind of what this, so that's what's happening, though.
And now there's going to be more storylines than a stand-up special.
But that's exactly, that would be like if I, in a year ago,
got a new special, guys, and I just got a director to redo it.
Yeah.
Didn't Chris Rock just do that?
He released Extra.
Yeah.
Because he recorded more.
And so then if there's new stuff – but yes.
But, I mean, he just put it back on Netflix.
So it's not like you're you know i don't know
seems kind of like i feel like there's there's gonna be more of that where it's gonna be
like wow we don't want to do the you know we can't go shoot it again but we're i think those
actors get paid again you know yeah i don't know there's a lot of details about i don't know but
i guess yesterday when people try to watch Tom and Jerry on HBO Max,
you could see Justice League.
Oh, yeah.
And then I think they finally figured it out and stopped it.
But they accidentally had it where you could watch it.
Geared up and ready to go.
Yeah.
Yeah, that is pretty crazy.
So the college stuff is – well, here, here, let's, we're going reads.
Cause I think we read some of these ads.
Um, so, uh, I was getting, yeah, I got, people got mad about the college thing.
Uh, that like, like I guess, I guess a trash college and typical college people can't handle it.
No.
I'm not a – I was never saying I'm against college.
Yeah.
Go to college.
All right.
I don't – I think it's – I mean, I don't think I'm insane to bring up friendship as being a class, as being kind of wild.
Right.
If you listen to the actual podcast and heard the context, you were clearly only trashing like some of these classes with ridiculous names that are kind of silly.
But I think I also remember you being like, if you're a doctor or a lawyer, obviously you need to go to college.
Obviously. Yeah. Well, I mean, but then everybody marketing majors, I get like, you know, yes, it's good.
It's not bad. It's good to go to college.
People that go to college, it works out for them.
Statistically, with stats, they seem to do better.
And so I'm not against going to college.
But you're also against stats, so who knows how you feel.
I don't know where they're coming from.
But I didn't go to college.
I didn't take a stats class.
Stats class actually makes sense to me.
Here's how we get stats.
Yeah.
I get the idea. I'm not against college at all i think it's uh you know but if you don't if you if you think i'm if you don't want me to be mad about college and think
don't trash college don't trash people that didn't go to college then because that's what college
people tend to do you go i'm I'm better than you, right?
Yeah.
I went to college.
Are you trashing people?
No, but I'm not him.
No, I think it's dumb.
But people that went to college, I went to college.
You did not.
They would say that if they tried to argue me.
I went to college.
You did not go to college.
Yeah.
So you can't have it both ways.
You're the higher
educated one you're the one that's better than everybody just let me and the minions complain
at the bottom right i don't know if i'm making it worse or better uh i mean i i really got a few
messages yeah it was the only thing i you know no one ever really says anything i don't look i went to college i'm not offended by it at all i think it's dumb to be offended by that
it's like you went to college you'll be all right yeah you know yeah that's what you're better than
this guy you want to talk to him for a second aaron land you got a co-host on aaron land
and they're uh special aaron land to go let who cares? He's a dumb idiot that couldn't get into college.
Let him make fun of, you know, the court jester that make fun of the king.
Y'all are the king.
You're running everything.
Y'all just give each other jobs.
You went there, I'll give you a job.
You know, it's all against it.
All right, I'm joking.
Make it worse.
I think it's great. Go to right i don't know i'm joking i get make it worse uh i think it's great go to college go to college guys i i mean you know my daughter i'd like her to go to college
supposed to i i think college is going to take a change though i'll be interested to see by the
time she gets to college i bet college drops i think people are there's other i think because
i think just real life experience will
come into play.
If you want to do something, then maybe, you know, maybe it is, you go somewhere for a
couple of years, but then actually just go do the job that you want to go do.
If you want to get into marketing, go work at an intern and get into marketing, get into
it that, that way.
I bet that happens.
Well, hopefully fewer and fewer businesses will do
this thing where they're like look we won't even talk to you unless you have a bachelor's degree
or whatever yeah there's so much of that now yeah where they're like even to get your foot in the
door you have to have this hopefully that goes away a little bit and you just get the best people
yeah i mean i don't yeah i don't know what job i would i could i wouldn't have had a job that could have many would never let me work there
because i didn't because i didn't go and i didn't have anything and if i would have went anywhere
and just said i got this i get the idea they want you to i feel like they want you to be like you
committed to something and you went through it and you did it and you're done and you got this yeah diploma
yeah but that's and that shows a lot and then if you're into marketing and all this stuff you know
but i i think if you don't go to college like so someone wants to be in the marketing
i don't know what the difference is if a person goes to college or if a person just went
like say right out of high school you want to be in marketing.
You just go intern in a company that does it.
And in four years, you have more experience than the guy that went to college. Yeah, the problem is a lot of people, you can't get internships usually unless you get
any college credit for it.
Yeah.
So it's a catch-22.
Because I agree, internships are where you really get practical experience.
But they're not going to let us do it.
Probably not, unless you're earning college credit.
Yeah, so why y'all can't get mad at me for making fun of college?
You literally won't let me do something.
Yeah.
I can't go anywhere.
All right.
You think I wanted to do this?
I wanted to get into college.
But I was too dumb.
You got in.
Vol State, anybody that's in community college, you might get in.
Western Kentucky?
One semester.
Yeah.
And did, I forget how, yeah, I don't know how I got in there.
Because I took those remedial classes.
Yeah.
So I went and did like an extra year of high school at a community college.
And then that was enough to then come in.
I mean, I would have probably not graduated.
It would have taken me five years to graduate.
Oh, at least.
Oh, yeah.
I'd have been at Western for five years.
Yeah, probably.
Because when I went, my second year was basically my first year.
Didn't you take a bowling class?
Yeah, I failed it.
And how'd you fail it?
I just didn't go.
Yeah, that'll do it.
Well, they want to make you keep score too.
You had to learn that, which is no one does that.
Yeah, why would you ever need to do that now?
I remember, kind of remember how to do it.
I mean, what else are they going to teach?
Yeah.
That ruins half the guy's lesson plan.
If you go, well, we'll just do computers.
And he's like, I mean, he's not just teaching you how to spin a ball.
Like that's, you know, I mean, that was kind of a goofy class,
but I guess I thought it was, you know, athletics.
I don't remember any other classes I took.
I took a spin class in college.
That was the worst.
What is that?
Like the indoor cycling. Yeah yeah we had to take three pe
classes i took cpr was one of my pe classes i took team handball and i took spin spin class
and i showed up late and the only available bike was like right in front of the dude yeah
he was like this guy that ran ironmans and stuff and he was like i'm gonna get you where you need
to be i was like dude i just want to be in the back i don't care about this at all and it's
stunk dude maybe you think he's watching this today and he just there's he's probably running
somewhere i know but he's he's listening yeah oh maybe he's imagining that you're in great shape
now he's like i got that yeah well he knows about your gout if he's listening. Yeah. Maybe he's imagining that you're in great shape now. He's like, I got that.
Yeah.
Well, he knows about your gout if he's listening.
Your Planet Fitness.
He never would have had a gout if he would have stayed with me.
Did you finish the class?
I did, yeah.
Yeah, I did all of it. And you have to – so it was basically an aerobics class.
Yeah, that's what it is.
Was he the only guy in there?
No, there were other guys in there.
Honestly, I didn't know what class men are they
taking giving you classes they're like here's how the real world works like eventually you're gonna
go to a gym and pay for a spence class but you'll never attend i don't think that was the intention
of it it was it was a pe class yeah it's a p class you know at notre dame it's they this has
been grandfathered in you have to take a swim class when you're a freshman.
A swim test.
Yeah.
Your first week of freshman year.
And if you fail the swim test, you have to take swim as one of your PE classes.
Oh, wow.
And I passed the swim test.
That's how easy it was.
Yeah.
So, I don't know why you have to take PE.
What did you have to do?
Swim back?
You literally just get in a pool and swim there and and back and then you do backstroke there and back and they just like see if you
they just like look at you and see can this guy make sure you're like you're not gonna drown
on campus right yeah is there a lot of that happen i bet so i mean i bet that's the general
idea of it like they just want to be like hey dude if you fall into water are you gonna be all right
i don't know why they make you do it i think it's i think we thought about doing it with harper when
she was a baby same class you just throw them in did they just throw you in no i just stepped into
the pool i didn't have to throw me did they did you not know you were having to do this and then
they go let's show you the pool area they They pushed you. This is a nice area.
Then someone just shoved you in the pool.
Trust me, I knew about it because I was dreading it for weeks
because I didn't want to be the only guy I knew that failed the swim test.
Did you wear a shirt?
Yeah.
No, I didn't wear a shirt.
Huh?
I didn't wear a shirt.
You didn't?
No.
You had to walk out there.
Long, you got bored. What are do you wear what kind of swim trunks did you have say board shorts like shorts just regular swim they were actual swim trunks were they
you're it might have been like basketball shorts honestly yeah i'd never went back to that pool
believe it or not yeah and then you had to just go back and forth right so because i passed the swim test i was
able to take spin you know and you didn't think that through when you did it spin i didn't really
know what spin meant i thought i thought it meant like it just meant spinning yeah until you get
dizzy like the thing you put your forehead on a bat and you spin and you gotta run around the
bases dizzy bat race and they going to make you know.
No, I thought spin like, I don't know, dance or something.
Yeah.
Like tap.
Yeah, that's how they get you.
They don't call it bicycle.
If they called it a bicycle riding class, you would have been out. Yeah.
Spin sounds like it's kind of fun.
Yeah.
And it was not.
Did you throw that bike in a tree?
What's that? Did you throw that spin bike up in a tree yeah
in that y'all's thing yeah i remember i used to sweat so bad and i would never have time to uh
to take a shower because i had a class across campus and it would be so cold just during the
winter that i would walk to my next class and all the sweat would freeze on me and it would be disgusting yeah
and that was a real yeah i didn't like that time he has a dark time yeah would you would you have
traded having gout at that time for that situation if they someone came up and said i'll fix this
but i gotta give you gout oh i'd take it for sure oh dude any day any day i would love it
yeah yeah that's uh if i have gout now which i don't think i do it's pretty easy yeah well we
don't know right you still don't know i still don't know planet fitness any updates on that
no i forget i always forget about i always forget i't have a printer. Can I print it out here at your place? And then I'll mail it.
And we'll go from there.
Yeah. We'll get it printed out.
You can get a printer. You know of a printer? I don't own a printer, no.
I don't think I've printed anything in probably six or seven years.
I like paper.
So this week We're gonna
So this week we're
We're figured
It's Tuesday
This is a big week
This is a quick
I got a lot of
A lot of stuff going on this week
A lot of interviews
A lot of stuff like that
Fun stuff
But
So we looked up
what were we talking about
this week
I don't know
the old west
the old west
the wild wild west
yeah
is it wild wild west
or old west
wild west
or old west
wild wild west
that was a Will Smith movie
yeah
but you can add extra wild
I guess
yeah wild west
we used to do the whole podcast
about the movie
just the movie with Will Smith.
Just going to break it down.
Yeah.
I remember watching the movie.
It's a pretty good movie.
I remember the song that came with the movie.
Yeah.
That was a hit.
Yeah, it was a big summer song.
Yeah, it was a good movie.
All right.
We can start with that.
Yeah.
You have stuff about the movie?
No, but we've all seen it, so we can talk about it.
I don't remember.
Wasn't there a robot involved?
Yeah, at the end.
Yeah.
There was a robot involved.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's always some robots.
All right.
All right.
Man, they're going to re-release it.
The director's cut.
That has to be a way that they're doing stuff.
I mean, I get this guy's recutting this movie,
so it could be completely different.
So I get the idea of it.
And it's free on HBO Max if you have HBO Max.
Is that movie theaters too?
I don't think so.
So if they're doing it like that, then I don't, you know.
But it's like the idea of this just re, you know,
what if they start doing that?
Like they couldn't release movies.
All right, well, we cut this movie, and we're going to send it out.
You know, they did it with The Office.
They just put The Office on a, it's on Peacock now,
NBC's new streaming thing, and they just,
all the deleted scenes are on there now,
so it's kind of like a new.
Really?
Yeah, a new thing.
You can go check it out.
But it's the same show, but just deleted scenes are added in yeah
same thing uh my wife had never seen seinfeld so we're watching it from start to finish and
watching it the dvds so we'll watch deleted scenes that i've never seen and there's stuff
in there that makes sense you don't think about it until you see the deleted scene. You're like, oh, yeah, that kind of moved the story along.
And they, besides, he took, Kramer takes cold showers, so he wouldn't sweat.
But that was like when you're walking across Notre Dame in the cold,
because you couldn't cool yourself down, take a cold shower.
Take a cold shower and then, oh, interesting.
Take a cold shower and then you won't sweat.
It's because you work out, then go take a hot shower,
and then you just keep sweating.
George would be sweating.
George had one that didn't take.
He didn't have one that, yeah, his didn't take
because his showers never take.
And so he goes, you take a cold shower right after you work out,
and then that keeps you.
And I've done that for that advice because of Seinfeld.
And it works.
Yeah.
I don't go as cold.
I remember I had to take a cold shower.
And when we went to Iraq, they didn't have – where was that at?
But we had to take a shower in the morning.
And I remember it was – they go, there's no hot water.
And, I mean, it was – wait, was that Iraq?
I just remember there being no hot water. And it was like wait was that iraq uh it was i just remember there being no hot water and it was like this is a nightmare dude and it was like you just i mean i just as very never
really stood under it but just kind of like did i mean it was so cold it was in the morning too
and you're like this is the worst thing ever that's's it. I'm talking about waking you up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So the Old West, the Wild West, basically we're talking about the 1800s.
And really what we think of more like even the second half of the 1800s,
it kind of got going.
The West kind of got settled once the Louisiana Purchase happened in 1803.
Oh. So basically the U.s they purchased louisiana well more than just louisiana it's called louisiana purchase but it
was the whole territory it's actually 15 parts of 15 states current states it doubled the size
united states when they bought it from france how much how much did it cost the end it was like uh super cheap yeah it was uh it was 15 million
dollars which sounds like a lot but for that much for that much land louisiana purchases all of that
yeah uh it goes from i mean it goes into canada yeah it does go into canada and so why do they
call it just the louisiana Because that's where it started.
The French, which owned the territory of Louisiana,
they sold them all that.
They didn't even have rights to all that.
I mean, that was just Native American land, but Napoleon.
So at this time in 1803, if you go out and live in Louisiana,
it was like you could be, man, it gets cold in Louisiana,
and you're at the Montana part.
Yeah.
A lot of that was just wilderness, right?
Yeah, it was just open plains.
There was hardly anybody there.
I think, yeah, the whole area is the Louisiana territory,
and then soon they started breaking down to the Dakota territory
and different territories, but none of that was states.
Everything east of that, the Mississippiissippi was part of the united states but then when they bought
that land it doubled in size so now all those lands out west people started going to settle in
yeah but nobody you know obviously consulted the american indians you could just go yeah
they didn't talk to them and say hey we're buying all this land no uh that's where the
tension comes from a little bit of tension yeah uh so if you i don't know what i was going to say
but i mean louisiana i mean the france france sold them this they basically sold them the
rights that no other european country is going to come and try to take it from you.
Right.
That's all they sold.
Yeah.
They're like, we won't come try to, it's your land.
It's your, you know, you can have it.
So that doubled the size of the United States.
So everybody started moving out west to all those countries.
I mean, those future states, excuse me.
And then the other big thing that moved everybody to go out west was the California gold rush.
So in 1848, gold was discovered in Northern California.
800 people lived in California at that time.
It's more than that now?
A little bit.
Yeah.
They had to wear masks.
Was there a mask
mandated at that time?
It didn't say.
Oh.
I didn't look.
But by the end of 1848,
20,000 people
had moved there
just because of the gold rush.
And by 1849,
it was up to 100,000.
So that's why
San Francisco 49ers
Yeah.
Called the 49ers
because 1849
was the big gold rush.
Yeah.
And this is all
during the wild,
wild west.
Yeah.
Yeah.
These small towns.
Yeah.
So now everybody's
going out west.
There's no walls.
How many Native Americans
were there?
Total?
Yeah.
Like,
why did they just get,
like,
I mean,
was there no just
stopping it, guess i mean they
tried well we they're probably so spread out yeah i mean europeans had better weapons and uh
yeah yeah that's that's current i need to look at that currently no yeah i mean look there's
bloodshed and they were treated horribly yeah it. It's like the shame of America's past.
Yeah.
But the gold rush sent everybody out to California.
So now everybody's going out west.
So then they got to find a way to get there.
So the Oregon Trail.
That's a thing, which we covered last week in video games.
That's a real thing.
Started in, where did it start?
Springfield, Missouri, right?
I think Independence, Missouri.
Oh.
Well, that's the same thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Start in Missouri, and then it would take you all the way to the Oregon Territory.
So there was two ways to get to the West Coast at this time, if you live on the East Coast.
You take a boat, go all the way down to South America, underneath it, go back up to get
to the West Coast.
Did it say how long that would take?
Six months.
Six months.
Or... Just on the high seas yeah would you stop like it you know the tip of south america would be like a cruise we get off
here i don't know it's i don't think it resembled a cruise in a lot of ways man i think it was brutal
but you know a little fishing boat.
Just hitting waves.
Just going like,
it takes you forever.
Or they could walk.
Or they could do this, which also I think was about four to six months,
the Oregon Trail.
I mean, this was dangerous for its own reasons
because of Native Americans,
robbers and stuff.
Do you think at the end of this trip you get out and you're like, whoo?
You're stressed for six months.
Yeah, you got a whole new crew of people there.
Yeah.
Everyone's died on there.
Does everybody go, oh, oh?
And he goes, oh, God, that was a long one.
You think that's – you do the same reaction, but it's six months.
Yeah.
Just, you know, just your neck a little bit.
God, my neck is killing me today.
You know.
Yeah.
Well, there was a trail.
Yeah, they had to blaze a trail.
See, it goes to Portland, the Portland Trail Blazers.
Oh, look at that.
Yeah.
I'm trying to keep it sports references here to keep y'all interested.
So there would be no San Francisco 49ers without the Portland Trailblazers.
Oh, wow.
So they owe it to them.
Yeah.
There'd be no Joe Montana without Clyde Drexler.
Yeah.
So there's a little trail that they had to make, but sometimes things went bad.
So the Donner party,
I don't know if you guys heard of them.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. They tried to their table last night when their name was called Donner party
before.
And we all waited cart,
right?
Car,
right?
Uh,
the Donner,
Donner party was a group that,
uh,
they took their own trail.
It was a new trail that they were told about that hadn't been tried yet.
There's a lot of dads like that.
What do you mean?
It's a very dad thing to go, now we're going this new way.
That's just take.
There's a trail that's already been done.
He goes, there's a new way.
Well, it didn't work out well they got they almost made it
and they got the sierra nevada mountains and snow crapped them and half of them died of the 90
people in the group half of them died and they were about to starve and they resorted to cannibalism
wow i took a turn yeah yeah the donner family maybe that's why they were late for their
order yeah and it wasn't just their family i mean donner party of four we're two now
uh so yeah that's what they're known for cannibalism that story the donners well it
wasn't just them there's 90 people in the group they're kind of led a group but um it'd be like
if your family and way Wayne and everybody just like,
let's go out West.
And it was mostly kids.
Um,
and they went up on the mountain and then snowed in,
snowed in.
They couldn't get out.
A few people went to try to get help.
Right.
Um,
so that's how they even know this was,
was going on.
But,
uh,
by the time they got out, half of them were dead, and they resorted to beating each other.
Not everybody.
It's also brand new terrain.
It's a totally unfamiliar place.
Yeah, I mean, is there a map?
I mean, probably somebody sold them some type of map for this new trail they took.
I forgot what the pass was called, but it was –
I think the guy that it's named after, he'd never even done it.
Yeah.
He just said, I think.
I'm pretty sure.
I think he sold them on it, and it was supposed to make the trip quicker.
I think it was supposed to shorten the trip.
He just waited in line, and that guy's still selling those maps,
and you get up there, and it's your turn, and you're like, hello.
He goes, hey.
Yeah, remember I'm part of the Donner family donner family bought a map here about a year ago uh got a few complaints
i'd like to say it's like all right dude sorry would you guys go the wrong way no my uh uncle
ate a lot of people that's where your map took us is that it led to and that right and he's like
all right come over here let's talk over he doesn't
he can't be having everybody's hearing everybody's hearing it what's that what he's saying because
if you go this path you're going to eat your own people and they're like well that's insane you go
you think that you yeah dude i thought it was too. This map will put you in a position where it's not insane,
and you can wrap your head around it.
And it's called the Sierra Mountains.
It's going to snow.
Can you imagine if there were Yelp reviews back then?
Oh, just of that.
The Donner family, yeah.
You think if the three of us were locked in a cabin like that?
Like if our tour got stuck and we had to resort to –
Eat each other?
Yeah.
I mean, how long would it take before you got there?
I mean –
Before we did?
Before you were that desperate.
You tell us.
I think you're hit first.
What are you talking about?
That was me.
What?
You think I just get all greedy?
I'm joking. I don't think that's our question to answer I mean I think you know obviously you'd be hitting it first yeah yeah what do you think I think me and Bates would
have to get separated you think the two of you I think we would talk heavily about you
and just being like I always get Bates. You think the two of you? I think we would talk heavily about you.
And just being like, I always get, Bates, come over a little bit.
Hey, what do you think?
Darren, you know.
Let's keep an eye out.
Let's keep an eye out.
I know he won't eat a lot during the day, but he's going to hit.
Something's going to happen.
He's going to eat a midnight snack at some point.
I think I could, I mean, I could outlast the two of y'all you know what i mean but if we killed you because yeah we got enough to cover the whole winter the
donner party they weren't killing each other right they were just dying of natural causes and then
they just were eaten yeah so yeah well you hope so i mean who you know we didn't you know and
knows what no we don't know you don't know i mean mean, I'm sure like once you do it and then you're like, it wasn't bad and you got a taste for it.
You know, I mean, yeah, I don't.
They may have progressed the process of dying.
Yeah.
Right.
A little bit.
That would be the worst if you ate it and it's just like your favorite food.
And you're like, oh, man.
It'd be worse if you ate.
I mean, you're just like eating it. and you're like oh man it'd be worse as you ate i mean you're just like eating it then you hear hello and someone's like no there's a there's a little town over here
and you're just sitting there like uh okay i'll be right there no no no don't come over i'll be
right there and you're i mean you're just like you open a door that you're like you didn't have
to open you didn't look around there's a town just a hundred yards away.
It's a golden arch, right?
Hello, everybody.
I got an airplane over here.
He's like invented an airplane.
How long have we been up here, man?
Yeah, I don't, I like to think, I mean, I don't, why didn't they hunt?
I guess that they were trapped.
I think they did try some hunting, but it was just, they were trapped in the snow.
They just couldn't i i would i would hope that you could figure a way out that to not
eat not to get to that point like you would just be like i'll figure something out but i don't know
but this is a different time man i mean this is death was that's that's the the luxury that you
have where we where we live here in America,
I mean, really even in other countries that are even not as, you know,
what's the word?
Like not as evolved.
Affluent?
Yeah.
Fortunate, but not as like evolved as we are now here.
I think death is not as, it just gets less and less.
I mean, back then it was like, like i mean i think you had a lot
of kids it was more expected for sure yeah no one was surviving anything you get diarrhea and just
die yeah you know dysentery yeah yeah there was one family that wrote that they were the only
family that didn't resort to cannibalism like they were proud of that yeah i mean they should be yeah
i mean they they're being snobby about it.
Yeah.
They bring it up years later.
At least we didn't eat our nephew.
A lot of people did.
Yeah, a lot of people did.
We did not, though.
We did not.
We went to college.
Yeah, we went to college.
I feel like this is like the college –
This is the first college family.
This is like how I feel.
Hey, don't make fun of, you know, people not eating other people.
You know?
Yeah,
it was a part of that Donner group
that didn't eat people?
No, the Donners ate some people.
Yeah.
For sure.
And the Donners was just a bunch of people.
Yeah,
they were the ones that led it.
It's called the Donner Party
because they were the ones
that kind of got it.
But it was more than just that family.
It was 90 people. So there was a few families involved, lots of kids.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you got to have some nights up there.
I just always like to think, what would be just a down, would you have a down night?
Would you ever have, you know, in the heat of all that that they had to survive up there for a while right yeah
yeah i mean do you ever have just uh night where you just you know it's kind of a lazy night like
a night that you would netflix and you ever had netflix and chill night like in that heat of that
moment or is it the whole time is just barbaric fight you know like the intensity of it is there
ever just like a night where you're like a couple
nights if you could talk to them and you go were any nights good and they're you know they'd be
you know you know fridays we play games you know is there ever that i do think about there's so
many children and what do they do do they play well i'm sure they seem like they got them pretty quick.
What's the small talk the morning after you've started to eat people?
Yeah.
Did you get some good sleep?
Not really, dude. Someone's got to break the tension, you know?
Tell a joke?
Yeah, someone's got to, you know.
I think there's an errand in the group and somebody makes that joke.
I mean, I think everybody makes that joke.
Like that joke has, you know i think there's an erin in the group and somebody makes that joke i mean i think everybody makes that joke like that joke has you know someone just wakes up pouring salt on joe's leg and they're like he's like i'm just sleeping but i'm just messing with you like i'm not that
hungry right now uh has anybody seen my wife you're like and there was a lot of like pointing over like yeah you know she's gone uh yeah i think i would
just yeah you'd run and just yeah i don't know shouldn't went that other way i guess now
i think you are right all right so now people have moved out West and they got to find a way to get the mail there.
So the Pony Express is invented.
Oh, yeah.
They used horse mounted riders between Missouri and California.
80 riders, 184 stations, 400 horses.
Stations were about 10 miles apart.
At each stop, the rider would change to a fresh horse,
picking only his mail pouch. Riders could not weigh more than 125 pounds,
much like jockeys today had to be very small. And then they would go about 7,500 miles on each trip.
And just deliver mail. Yeah, it took them about 10 days to get to california from from missouri from missouri yeah
wow is that not very fast that's fast by horse it would be yeah but i mean they're they're flying
they're not like trotting yeah they're they're running as fast they can on a horse and they
would change to another horse and just run the whole time.
Wow.
And they'd have to sleep, though, right?
Well, they had different rides.
So they had stations along the way.
Oh, so you would go from here to here,
and then that person would take off?
Yeah.
You would go about every 10 miles,
you would change horses. So you could get a fresh horse
that could run as fast as they could.
And after 100 miles,
that's when the rider would stop, and he would stop there at that station and they would
spend the night there yeah the riders received about 125 a month um which that's a lot of money
back there what's 125 equivalent to let me look that up well i just found this is a this is a
young young skinny wiry fella this is a poster for trying to hire people
for the pony express wanted young skinny wiry fellows not over 18 must be expert writers willing
to risk death daily orphans preferred wow wow oh man from saint joseph missouri to california a young skinny wiry orphan now that says 20 oh
that's 25 dollars per week okay yeah you said 125 about 125 125 a month yeah in 19 18 uh 1860 1860
i don't know i'm bombing on the Googles today.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that was a lot of money back then.
Yeah.
I mean.
So.
Yeah.
$3,900 today.
And that's what you got a week?
That's a month.
$4,000 a month.
Yeah.
That's, I mean, it's not terrible.
No, it's a good salary. Yeah. It's like $48,000 a month. Yeah, that's, I mean, it's not terrible.
No, it's a good salary.
Yeah.
It's like $48,000 a year.
Yeah.
But, I mean, you're risking your risk life.
Yeah.
And you don't have parents. And you don't have parents.
Yeah.
But they're teenagers.
Yeah.
And you're wiry.
Yeah.
And you're a teenager.
But it only lasted about a year and a half, the Pony Express did.
Really?
Yep.
And then the telegraph service came along, and that was much faster.
Wow.
What was that?
That's when you're like, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Yeah.
I only know the telegraph for SOS.
You know that one?
No.
You can do it?
I can.
Do it on the table.
So it was like one,
two,
three.
And then,
and then,
and then the O that's the S and then the O is three long ones.
And then the,
yeah.
So if you're ever trapped in a box or something,
well,
uh,
well,
if it's a well,
you probably just yell something you know i was just
thinking i don't know when you need to tap that sos but that's you know if you're on a ship
and i would hope yeah and i would hope that if you just heard tapping you would come i don't want
it to be like is that sos and they go i think it's son so i think we're fine uh like i would be i would hope in the
general rule of a situation if you're doing tapping in 2021 just come if you hear some and
i'm sure you're gonna have some stickler that goes that's not SOS, though. He goes, I know, but no one really knows that anymore, and I'm hearing banging.
He's underneath these rocks.
Yeah.
That's just, I think he's fine, and I think he wants to be under those rocks.
He just spelled S-O-D.
Okay.
That's it.
So if you ever hear that.
I thought that was my breathing for a second. I was like, oh my gosh, it's getting worse. Okay. That's it. So if you ever hear that.
I thought that was my breathing for a second.
I was like, oh my gosh, it's getting worse.
So it's three quick ones, three long ones, three quick ones.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why would they not make this sound just, you know, like.
Help.
Like three quick ones.
Or why don't they make it.
That's an S.
I know, but why don't they just make it...
Like that old knock that everybody just knows.
Yeah.
You know?
Dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee.
Yeah.
You talked about that on stage last night. I did talk about that, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's like the knock.
It's funny, all the different...
Yeah.
It's like a friend's house.
You do that knock.
Yeah.
And everybody does it.
That's his bathroom knock on the stall. Yeah. Yeah it why does everybody do that knock i don't know i don't know
that not get it where that rhythm came from is that a rhythm in some other song bum bum bum bum
bum bum something like that yeah maybe that's where it comes from like an old look at me because
you think i'm gonna know though yeah back in the vaudeville days. Before doorbells, what did y'all do?
Is it always that knock?
Is that how you knew?
It was a friend or foe?
We'd SOS it.
The foes would have.
What's the code?
How did they look up that knock?
What would that knock even be called?
How are you going to look it up?
Where did the dun, dun, dun, dun, dun knock come from up where did the dun dun dun dun where did the
where did the standard door knock rhythm come from this is it looks like some other people
it comes from the tune of shaving a haircut two bits oh i love that which is what people
sang when they went door to door offering hair offering haircuts. Oh. I'm going to look that song up.
Well, I bet I have an idea what it is.
What?
It's got to be like that.
But that's amelodic.
It probably has a melody.
Don't pay more than 15 seconds.
That's true.
I don't want them suing us.
I don't want whoever owns the copyright to shave and a haircut two bits.
You know?
Well, it's only a four- only four seconds long oh this is just
the knock i think oh oh well this is worthless okay there's an ad uh all right yeah i can't do
a biori it's a 30 second ad slash name magic dot com backslash name all right all right yeah it's
the most oh there it is. It's just a knock.
Okay.
The most famous Pony Express rider was Buffalo Bill Cody.
You guys heard of him?
I've heard of Buffalo Bill.
The serial killer.
Yeah.
From Silence of the Lambs?
Yeah, from Silence of the Lambs.
And from the Eminem song.
Mine was from something else.
No, I grew up near a buffalo, Bill.
Oh, he's in a movie too?
Well, he was a famous buffalo hunter,
but there was another buffalo hunter named Bill Comstock.
They both wanted to nickname Buffalo Bill.
So they had an eight-hour buffalo shooting match.
Your new name is Coco.
Coco the monkey.
They had a what did they have?
They had a
Eight hour buffalo
Shooting match
To see who could
Get exclusive rights
To the name
And who
I mean I would think
I mean look
That was worth
Fighting for
That nickname
Yeah
Look at it
I mean look
We're talking about it
Right now
Yep
I mean he would be proud
Yep
So we don't even know which one won.
One of them won.
No, Buffalo Bill.
Buffalo Bill, Cody won.
And he killed 68 Buffalo, and Bill Comstock killed 48.
And the Donner family's up there just eating each other on a mountain.
We would have loved one of those Buffalo to eat.
You're just genociding them out there.
Congratulations, you're Buffalo Bill.
Yeah.
Buffalo Bill became famous.
He started the Buffalo Bill Wild West Touring Show.
And it's kind of like a circus, but he had Annie Oakley,
American sharpshooter.
She could shoot a cigar from her husband's lips from 75 yards away.
She could split a playing from her husband's lips from 75 yards away she could split a playing card edge on the edge like down the edge of it at 30 paces and she was the first american female star
well first american like female celebrity huh yeah annie annie get your gun yeah that was
yep any wow uh wild bill hickok yeah you heard him yeah okay now we're going somewhere Get your gun. Yeah, that was a... Yep. Wow.
Wild Bill Hickok?
Yeah.
You heard him?
Yeah.
Okay, now we're going somewhere.
He was one of the main... One of the great outlaws of the West.
He was also a marshal.
They all were.
They were all good guys and bad guys.
He was a gambler.
They were all gamblers.
He got in the first quick draw duel with a guy.
Yeah. They got an argument over a watch. was a gambler they're all gamblers he got in the first quick draw duel with a guy yeah they uh
they're gonna argument over a watch and they met out in the street and he drew first and he hit the
guy the other guy missed and the other guy yelled boys i'm killed and then he collapsed and died
wow um and i mean you you don't go to jail.
You don't go.
Well, they would have trials, but they would usually be found innocent.
Self-defense.
You don't get a jury or your peers.
Self-defense.
Well, just like, hey, it was a fair fight.
We both drew.
Yeah.
You know.
And they go, all right.
And everybody says.
This is Wild Bill.
I mean, he looks.
Everybody looks so miserable back then.
He joined Buffalo Bill's road show in a play called Scouts of the Plain,
but he didn't enjoy acting, so he often hid behind the scenery.
And in one show, they put the spotlight on him.
He shot out the lights because of it,
and he was released from the group after a few months.
So that didn't even get rid of him right there on the spot.
They just chastised him.
All right, you got to
strike one, buddy.
Yeah, strike one.
He didn't like acting.
No.
What were spotlights back then?
Did they have actual spotlights?
No.
Did they have big candles?
That's a good question.
I wouldn't think they worked into that story.
It might not be true.
1873.
You might have just got holes right through that story.
I don't know if that's...
I'm thinking about the movie Tombstone where they do plays and they did have lights on them.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I wonder, can you fashion a spotlight candle?
No. I don't see. I wonder, can you fashion a spotlight candle? No.
I don't see how.
A tort?
I mean, do they have lights?
Do they have lights during this time?
Electricity came along in the late 1800s,
but I don't think it would have been prevalent,
especially out West.
Yeah, out West at a carnival show.
Well, yeah.
So I'm curious how they're like,
they put the spotlight on it.
They make spotlights.
Then they cut his bike.
And it's like, wait, what happened?
This is all made up.
Spotlights.
I mean, I don't even know.
Spotlights in the Wild West.
He was killed in Deadwood, though.
Yeah.
At a saloon playing poker.
Guy shot him in the back of the head.
Oh.
Wow.
So it came to an end.
Yeah.
That's how it ends
for all of them
all these guys
Billy the Kid
you guys heard of him right
yeah
I mean he was killed
at age 21
he'd already killed
a bunch of people
but
Sheriff Pat Garrett
shot and killed him
have you guys seen the movies
Young Guns
no
well
alright
it's kind of the main thing
Emilio Estevez
and Young Guns 1 is just about him rising to power or fame and Young Guns 2 No. Well, all right. It's kind of the main thing. Emilio Estevez.
And Young Guns 1 is just about him rising to power or fame.
And Young Guns 2 shows his end, but there's a story.
So most people say Billy the Kid died at age 21, but there's a guy in Texas who goes by Brushy Bill
who said he was the real Billy the Kid.
He lived until he'd be 90.
He died in 1950.
Wow.
He said he escaped the guy that he said that the sheriff
um to kill billy the kid killed the wrong guy but wouldn't admit it yeah so he's just like
yeah that's him that's billy the kid yeah and buried him real fast but then he escaped
so there's a museum in hiko texas honoring this guy who's they say is the real billy the kid we honor him they honor him oh sorry
honor no no i'm just saying it's a funny it's funny that they're honoring like i mean like
an outlaw yeah like a guy that was would technically not be a good guy yeah right
right billy the kid was probably just a straight-up murderer yeah there wasn't a lot of
honor in him yeah but but it's fascinating right they fascinated they did some research on him
imagine that he was your they probably some of his town being like this guy was from our town
you're proud of it because you think that with the wild west because you it's all kind of cool
to us yeah all that i mean these people were a nightmare. Yes. A nightmare.
Robbing banks and just raiding towns and stuff.
Yeah.
So they checked the guy.
Some researcher, right before he died, met with him.
He had five bullet wounds that matched,
five bullet scars that matched where Billy the Kid had been shot.
So they're like, how could he, why? How could he do that?
How could he fake it?
That's pretty good evidence.
It's about as good as evidence you're going to get back then.
Yeah.
They tried to do a DNA test,
but Billy the Kid's gravesite in New Mexico got washed away in a flood,
so they don't know where his body is.
It's awfully convenient, huh?
Yep.
Wow.
Yeah, it is convenient.
So he may have lived to be 90
when most of them died very early uh butch cassidy and the sundance kid paul newman robert redford
movie those are real guys they rob trains banks stuff like that good good good a lot of robbing
trains yep it was a big thing back then where these people looked as heroes back then like
they are they it it like the mafia
and the fact that, you know, like,
some people loved Al Capone,
or some people, Escobar.
Like, there was towns that worshipped him
because he would pay for their whole towns
and give them money and all this stuff.
It's almost like Robin Hood in a way, you know?
Yeah, but it's, yeah, Robin Hood,
but it was like, he was stealing from the rich and giving to the poor.
I mean, Escobar destroyed people's lives.
Yeah.
And I mean, when he blew up the city, you know, like if he didn't like the way the government went.
Yeah, blew up an airplane.
Yeah, the country.
Yeah, and they blew up an airplane.
I mean, just a horrendous person.
And these guys, are they like that?
I mean, I think it was a little bit like you said, the morals of today weren't quite like
they were back then.
Yeah.
As far as good and bad.
Nobody was like considered all good or, or all bad.
Jesse James, another famous train robber, bank robber, hung out in Nashville for a couple
of years. Oh, wowber, hung out in Nashville for a couple of years.
Oh, wow.
Laid low in Nashville.
Then he got bored and was like,
I'm getting back out there and getting to it.
But he was kind of like a Robin Hood, some people thought,
but it sounded like he kept most of the money to himself.
Yeah.
And then he'd get into it.
So not really.
Yeah.
He was shot by his new gang recruit, Robert Ford,
played by Casey Affleck.
You know that movie?
I'm just trying to...
Brad Pitt played Jesse James.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
That's what Jesse James...
Jesse James looks like a wiry fellow.
Yeah.
He looks like a Pony Express rider.
Pony Express rider.
Yeah.
And so he was killed by that guy. Yeah. And, so he was killed
by that guy?
Yeah,
the guy,
that guy had his own problems
and the government said,
you killed Jesse James
and we'll wipe away,
you know,
you'll get a pardon.
Yeah.
So,
he,
like,
shot him in the back.
Yeah.
I actually haven't seen
that movie,
but I know you're
a Casey Affleck fan,
so I thought maybe you'd say that. I do like Casey Affleck a lot.
He's a good actor.
Yeah.
Wyatt Earp.
Tombstone?
You've seen Tombstone?
No.
I've never seen Tombstone either.
I know.
Isn't it the most famous Wild West movie?
Especially modern times, I would say.
So many people quote it because Val Kilmer, Scott Holliday, stuff like that.
So Wyatt Earp, we know him he was a
marshal in dodge city then he went to tombstone arizona and he got into a fight with this gang
called the cowboys and the movie was very realistic seems like from what i read on here
and then they had a shootout at the okay corral you guys yeah okay corral right yeah where is it tombstone arizona
okay and doc holiday was wyatt erp's friend so they uh they got in this interaction with the
with the cowboys and that was the famous shootout that that happened but a lot more stuff happened
in the movie but um wyatt erp definitely portrays the good guy yeah would they uh so those shootouts
would be would they be in the middle of the street like in the well the corral was kind of like a
side alley kind of thing it said it lasted for 30 seconds what you think about it that's a long time
for a shootout yeah um but uh it was the earp brothers played by did just everybody have a gun
on them because that's what i imagine is just
everybody has a gun this is what the argument was supposedly about because in tombstone you're
supposed to give up your weapons at city the city limits oh okay so when you come into town you're
supposed to yeah put your gun up the cowboys were a game they didn't do it and that's what they went down there to do to disarmal
yeah wow didn't work out so it's yeah so they the idea of it was so you could like relax
i guess yeah yeah there's no one has guns you're like hey we can chill out take a breather like in
uh john wick that hotel that they stay at i haven't seen john wick oh yeah
it's good john wick there's a hotel they stay out and the point of it is you can't do anything at
that hotel and so it's like so these people that end up have these kind of crazy things they they
go oh i want to i want to go here no one has guns i don't have to feel like i'm like watching
everybody i can they can get drunk they can do whatever they wanted to do.
That would be the idea of it.
It's like a little ceasefire.
Yeah, and these guys didn't do it.
Wyatt Earp, I was surprised about this.
You guys may not be, but
he was most known when he died for
refereeing in a heavyweight
boxing championship
that was very controversial
because he ruled that the guy had an illegal
punch and disqualified him and a lot of people lost money in it and he thought they thought he
fixed the fight for himself and it hurt his reputation and it was just like he was a ref
yeah i mean why it up lived to 1929 yeah that's of crazy. There's people alive today who were alive when Wyatt Earp
was alive.
Yeah.
He consulted
in Hollywood movies
at the end of his career
when they started
making westerns.
He lived in LA
and consulted
with Hollywood stars,
western stars
about movies.
Yeah.
They were his pallbearers.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Like old western
silent movie stars.
Wow. Wow. I i tell you guys are thrilled
no i grew up watching all my grandpa would always have westerns on he's always have gun smoke and uh
bonanza and all these shows so he loved john wayne named his kid after john wayne one of my uncles
oh really he loved john wayne that much so those were always on when I was over at my grandparents' house.
Yeah.
So I love them all.
I don't think I've watched one John Wayne movie.
Really?
I was never a big Wild West movie fan.
Like, I never saw Tombstone.
He's better than John Candy.
Huh?
John Wayne?
I haven't seen any John Candy movies.
You haven't seen any John Wayne?
I mean, John Wayne was like, is he one of the first Hollywood celebrities?
Not one of the first, but he's certainly like,
that's who you think of as the man's man Hollywood star.
Yeah, not the first celebrity, but iconic.
I mean, he's just such a huge name.
Yeah.
John, who would be before him that was?
Well, Charlie Chaplin was such a...
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
He was a big figure.
Maybe.
Yeah.
He made 83 Westerns.
John Wayne did.
83?
It's about typecasting.
Out of 140.
I feel like you're like 70 movies in.
You're like, I feel like I've told this story before.
You know?
Yeah.
You're just out of stuff by then.
You're just getting...
He's not writing them.
He's just...
He just shows up.
He's working.
He shows up and and does them yeah
he's working he's living the dream i guess so it's a ton of movies true grit i've seen true grit
i've never seen any that was a good movie true great well you probably saw the remake
i saw the original too but i have seen the remake yeah remake was with jeff bridges i i've
there's i mean i know there's like's stuff you remember probably from John Wayne,
like quotes and all that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
He calls everybody Pilgrim.
Yeah.
That's his thing.
Yeah.
Doc Holliday was a dentist in Atlanta.
That's how he got the nickname Doc.
Who was Doc Holliday?
What did he do?
You never heard of him? Mm-mm. You've never heard of Doc Holliday? I've heard the name doc who was doc holiday what did he do you never heard of him you've never heard of doc
holiday i've heard the name before i don't know who it was though okay he looks like a lunatic
from this picture well he was white earp's friend and played by val kilmer in the movie tombstone
okay i'm your huckleberry you ever heard that yeah for oh for sure yeah so he had a lot of
lines in that movie he was just a gambler and an outlaw.
And sometimes sheriff's deputy when need be, like they all were back then.
They were all gamblers.
They were all trying to make money.
Wyatt Earp was just always trying to make money.
He would just go from town to town.
Were they married or did they have families or anything?
Well, Doc Holliday hung out with a woman named Big Nose Kate.
Yeah.
She had one prominent figure.
They said her face that was a little bit more prominent.
She was a dance hall woman, occasional prostitute.
Occasional.
Yeah.
Just in time for time.
She just dabbles in it.
Is your girl doing it?
Not all the time, but you know.
So he traveled.
Wyatt Arp had a wife.
And I mean, in the the movie it doesn't work
out he ends up with another woman that's one way the movie's different because they show them
living happily ever after but in real life it said she was a nightmare oh really just wore him
out he was trying to write his biography at the end of his life and she was always in the room
saying you can't say that you can't say say that. And just ruined the book, they said.
Why couldn't he say it?
She's like, don't tell him everything.
Or sometimes she was just like, she said, I think it was the word crack.
She's like, you got to put in the word crack a lot.
And the word crack was used like 129 times in the book.
I think she wanted the gunshot to be crack or something like that. they say it was one of the worst books ever written because she had a bunch of say she
wanted it to be crack when i when i when a gunshot was fired i can't remember it was some word like
that that she's like you got to put that in i don't think anybody you know what that's called
a word a word that describes the sound of something? Do you think I know what it's called?
No, but I...
Okay.
I bet you've heard of it before.
Yeah.
Onomatopoeia?
Yeah, I have heard of it.
I don't think anybody's ever had a crack for a gunshot.
Onomatopoeia is actually not that hard of a word to say.
But if you look at it, you'd be like, oh, no.
I don't know.
Onomatopoeia.
It kind of just finishes itself
you start on and you're like well i'm gonna go ahead and get might as well do monopia yeah yeah
we're already down there we're already
crack is uh bad i mean that doesn't sound yeah it is i may have the wrong word it was something
like no but crack is would be funny for a gunshot.
I haven't heard too many guns go off.
I don't think it sounds like it.
Crack, crack, crack.
Did this all just come to a stop, too?
Yeah, around the 1900s.
It wasn't just overnight, but things started becoming a little bit more civilized, I guess.
Things just started evolving.
Things started getting better and just settling in the West.
Saloons were just a crazy thing out West.
It was a lot like, again, the movies, if you guys had seen one,
where you just go in and it's kind of crazy.
People are playing cards.
They said you don't ask anyone's full name because that's considered rude.
Nobody wants to give
too much information about themselves yeah they're all kind of outlaws everybody's up to stuff they're
always kind of just up to stuff it's rude to ask someone's name you know they said you wouldn't ask
someone how many horses they own because that's like asking for someone's tax returns it's just
just yeah mind your business kind of thing wow if. If someone walks in, you offer them.
No, the guy who walks in has to offer to buy you a drink.
And if he doesn't.
To the bar?
To the guy.
If you walk in and stand at the bar, you have to offer the guy standing there,
let me buy you a drink.
And if you don't, it's considered rude.
And sometimes they would take a guy just out and drag him saloon to saloon,
beating him and showing this
is how you do some manners wow so anybody just whoever's standing next to you yeah so you could
walk in and like then let me get you a drink like you just talk to the random person yeah yeah a
simpler time yeah yeah you know yeah definitely what is the point of those doors that you always
see walking into a saloon that like swinging doors yeah what's the's the point of those? They don't go all the way to the
ground. It's like, what is this doing?
Well, they said it was to keep
sophisticated women and modest
women from seeing what's going on in there.
But I don't understand why a regular door wouldn't do
that same thing.
Also, what, the modest women
would be able to see it? They could just look underneath
it? No, like
saying that they don't want to know
what's happening in there yeah yeah it's supposed to block your view but i don't understand that
logic how i seem like a regular door do better yeah i think there's a lot of when you got to
get out of saloon door you got to get out of a sling door like i don't think it's and that's
just an easy quick like get out yeah i mean it makes it better if it was a regular door i mean you know who cares
like that is pretty crazy that saloon door is it means everything yeah everybody thinks about that
yeah um now some places they said had both doors because they gotta lock up sometime they gotta
have a way to lock up and the weather sometimes was so bad if you just had a swinging door they're
like dude it's cold where
you might have said
where did you say
this was
all in Arizona
no it's all over
the west
yeah
Deadwood
did you ever
watch Deadwood
no
alright
that was in
South Dakota
that's where
Wild Bill was killed
in a saloon
in South Dakota
and they would
just travel
from
are trains going
that's when
this all started happening so That's when this all
started happening?
So that's when...
Trains are happening.
Imagine these guys.
So these guys,
anything that gets invented,
they're just like robbing.
Yeah.
Security's not good
on any of this stuff.
But I think they just
all try to make money.
They didn't respect authority.
They didn't like
if you're a soldier or anything, anyone that... They didn't like that. know if you're like a soldier or anything anyone that
they didn't like that they're outlaws they they like independence stuff like that although a lot
of them were like civil war deserters like people that either fought in the civil war and didn't
want to do it and got out stuff like that yeah i mean most of this happened in the late 1800s. All these guys lived about the same time, from like 1860 to 1890.
And they all were pretty young.
They all died probably.
Most of them, like.
Yeah, Doc Holliday died when he was like 36.
Tuberculosis.
Oh, TB?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's why he moved out west, because they thought the dry weather would help his tuberculosis.
Yeah.
That's how in Red Dead Redemption, your character gets tuberculosis and dies yeah that's what you deserve for killing those innocent people
yeah i guess so i guess it's karma in a way so you're in a shootout but the way you die is from
the end the end of the storyline is yeah your character gets tuberculosis and just keels over
yeah so if anybody wants to play this game now just don't even worry about it's been out for a few years man you know i've just downloaded it
because i was gonna are you serious yeah i thought are you actually yeah you thought you talked me
into it i was like i'll play it and then like yeah play the orion trail yeah i'm sorry. No, I didn't download it. You feel real bad.
Geronimo was one of the famous Native Americans.
You guys heard Geronimo?
Oh, yeah.
And so he was so great at escaping, jumping from mountains, getting out of caves, stuff like that, that that's when people started yelling Geronimo.
Yeah.
Paratroopers started yelling it when jumping from airplanes they would yell geronimo but it was just like a way to honoring
something very daring yeah was there one named cowabunga too yeah that's where that comes no
he was sister his brothers to cannonball
cannonball cat in ball was he Alaskan
Geronimo
why don't I think of Alaska
no
is that just a weird
got some synapses
twisted up in my head
yeah that's just you
where is he from
Memphis
Knox County to be honest with you Yeah, that's just you. Where is he from? Memphis?
Knox County?
To be honest with you, I had some printer issues.
Most of this I'm going off memory now.
For Geronimo, that's what I have right there. Oh, nothing.
Where'd you print it at?
At home, but something I didn't realize.
I don't know.
He's from, born in Mexico.
Okay.
Not Alaska.
Nope.
Nope. Not Alaska. Nope. Nope.
Sitting bull.
Another guy led a battle.
Gets, uh, Custer.
Custer's last day. That's what I yell whenever I sit down.
Sitting bull.
The bull's sitting down.
When they said, uh, Eric, I get your help out here.
The bull has already sat.
And when sitting bull sits. He sits. sits he sits he's not getting back up
oh there's one story about saloon i meant to mention so there was one in abilene texas called
the bull's head tavern and the owner painted a bull doing something a crude act on outside the
wall of his tavern and the marshal at the time was wild bill hickok and he
said paint over that people were obscene they don't like this obscene gesture and the guy
refused to do it so wild bill ended up painting over himself and then the guy got mad about it
they ended up getting in a fight and wild bill killed the the saloon owner that's kind of funny
right yeah that's hilarious that's so funny. You're like, Wild Bill said,
paint over this
or else,
or else what?
Or else I'll do it myself.
So he went and painted over it.
He just got fed up with it.
I just think it's funny
that this bull
made this obscene gesture
for the whole town to see.
Yeah.
They had storekeepers.
There's always a general store.
One guy.
The catalog.
What?
I don't know.
I feel like that story, I don't think it was worth going back to.
All right.
I thought it was going to go somewhere.
You go, oh, I got a great one here.
Guy painted an obscene picture, and then the sheriff just painted over it.
Yeah.
He killed him.
I know, but then you kind of trailed off at that part.
I thought by then you guys might jump on board with it, and we'd be running away with it. Yeah. He killed him. I know, but then you kind of trailed off at that part. I thought by then you guys might jump on board with it,
and we'd be running away with it.
Yeah, I would have been more on board.
It's like the quick version of it is a guy painted an empty gesture,
and he said, change it.
He said no, and so we killed him.
Like that was just the quick split.
Well, that was the first run of it.
I'll tighten it up when I try it out next time uh yeah you throw it out there and see what sticks when y'all do commentary
on erin land got a big guest today got a breakfast coming in it's like on the stern show they they
always talk about all that one of the most ruthless general store owners was Andrew J. Myrick in Minnesota.
When the Sioux Indians
were out of food, he said, let them eat grass.
And I think
you have a picture of Andrew Myrick.
Do I? Because we've discussed
him on a previous episode. Oh, really?
Nate's great-great-grandfather. Well, that's
the movie they made about it.
There he is. Oh, that guy.
Oh, really? Wow. That yeah oh really wow that was that guy
that was that guy yeah he came back around and that is crazy dude and when the dakota war started
uh he was killed the first day and they found his mutilated body um with grass stuffed in his mouth
and other places oh wow dude that's Dude, that's wild, dude.
I mean, I just look at it.
And you thought it was you.
Yeah.
Man.
And then someone made a movie poster whenever they do make the movie.
You and Lou Diamond Phillips.
Yeah.
I mean, it's hard to tell the difference between those two pictures, kind of.
Yeah.
Pretty wild.
It's amazing just the amount of death and destruction going on back then.
I mean, just everybody.
Does everybody just get slaughtered?
You know, I looked up.
Is that how everybody dies?
Well, I looked up like how dangerous those towns were back then compared to now.
Yeah.
And there's always, most things you'll read will say, oh, it's much worse now.
You know, gun violence and stuff like that.
Really?
The numbers obviously are higher now because there's so many more people.
Yeah.
But still, I mean.
Well, you could just openly get away with it back then.
Much more back then.
That's the probably part.
That's the scarier part.
Like now, the threat of jail is there.
And you're going to, no one's going to, you can't just go shoot someone in the street now and just be like,
it's fine.
It's a little bit more of a thing.
But back then,
and that sheriff killed the guy for painting that thing.
Like,
you know,
it's like,
that just seems insane.
Like it,
like it's going to lead up to that.
Yeah.
I mean,
these people have killed so many people.
I mean,
you got to think,
you know,
uh,
think about like,
just if you know when someone
if you knew someone that's killed someone by a gun like that's crazy and back then it was like
they all did you know yeah but i bet there was a lot of people that were just like yeah it was
normal it was you know yeah i guess if you're not an outlaw robbing banks and stuff you might
have a pretty normal life i mean it wasn't a day-to-day thing. We're listing all of the most famous cases,
you know,
over a few decades.
Yeah.
But these guys killed a few people.
Entertainment Weekly did the top movies,
Westerns,
modern Westerns,
Unforgiven.
Yeah.
Number one,
Clint Eastwood.
I've seen that.
No.
Okay.
I've seen that.
So when you suggested we do Wild West, what were you thinking?
I haven't watched them.
The movies.
You talking about the movies?
No, but you suggested it's a topic.
I just thought about it.
Like I thought there'd be a lot of stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Trying to come up with something, you know?
It's hard when you've got to do it alone.
Dances with Wolves?
Anybody seen that?
I've seen it uh once there's a
i remember a very funny part seen it as a kid yeah that wasn't that where he's getting that
stick he goes what is that that's for example they're sitting in the fire yeah and the guy
just goes what's that what is that yeah and i remember that seeing that as a kid and we thought
it was the funniest we used to do it all the time
and we thought it was
the funniest thing ever
that scene
that's so funny
I know what you're talking about
but that's such a
not memorable scene
well I was
when did this movie come out
1990
yeah I mean
I was like
11, 12 years old
yeah yeah yeah
I think he
I think he
farts in that scene
he does
and so like yeah
so that scene was just...
It just had everything you'd ever want.
It had everything.
It was very, very funny.
He was the wagon guy who took Kim Custer out west.
What is that?
Yeah, yeah.
Because he was scared?
No, Kim Custer was just staring off, pondering life.
I was like, what is that?
What is that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was the first movie that kind of portrayed supposedly Native Americans in complex ways,
not just like savages.
Yeah.
You know, things like that.
They got a lot of stuff wrong, but it was a start.
Yeah.
I mean, have you guys seen any Westerns?
No.
No, I don't think I have. Open Range, range great movie 310 to yuma maybe i'll start
i need to watch that christian bell and yeah and um i'll go watch that i just watched this movie
uh it's a new one with tom hanks called news of the world yeah yeah did you guys see i've not
seen that one yeah the the the premise of it is is that there's all these little towns where no
one can read. Yeah.
And so Tom Hanks' character, this is like a job back then.
You just go from town to town and read the newspaper to people.
And that's your job.
And people would just gather in town halls and pay money just to hear what was going on in the world.
Yeah.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah.
And that's how he made money.
That's how he made money.
That was his job.
He could just read. Is the movie good? I don't remember. No, it wasn't that crazy? Yeah. And that's how he made money. That's how he made money. That was his job. He could just read.
Is the movie good?
I don't remember.
No, it wasn't that good.
But just the whole premise of it was really interesting to me.
Yeah.
Do you want to give the ending away?
He dies of tuberculosis.
No way.
Yeah.
And who tells the townspeople that?
How do they even hear about it?
Oh, that's a good point.
I bet he taught somebody along the way.
I bet there's a little girl or something.
There is a little girl.
There always is.
Yeah, he takes in a little girl and adopts her.
Yeah.
Well, all in on this, there's some of the popular TV shows.
Yellowstone, modern day Western now.
People love it.
Yeah, it's one of the most popular shows.
Deadwood was really big a few years ago, Justified.
Gunsmoke, up until just recently,
The Simpsons just passed Gunsmoke
for most episodes of any scripted show.
Wow.
Gunsmoke had 635 episodes,
and The Simpsons just passed,
I think they have like 639 now.
That's so many episodes.
Yeah, but Gunsmoke, you should get more credit.
You should. Yeah, like that's, you Yeah, but Gunsmoke, you should get more credit. You should.
Yeah, like that's, you know.
And Gunsmoke was over 20 seasons.
Simpsons is like 32 now.
So Gunsmoke was cranking out a bunch each season.
Yeah, wow.
Yeah.
Why do you think Gunsmoke gets more credit than The Simpsons?
The Simpsons is animated.
Like, Gunsmoke, they had, real actors had to show up. And, you know, Simpsons is like, got spoke They had Real actors had to show up
And
You know Simpsons is like
You're going in and doing
I'm not taking anything away
From the Simpsons
But you're
You could do it from your house
Yeah
I could read all my lines
From my house
Yeah
And now they have to write
The shows
Coming up with that
Being as good of a show
Taking nothing away
From the Simpsons
That's impressive
Right
But
Acting
Real
Having real actors And have to Props All that You could The Simpsons that's impressive but acting real having real actors and have to props and all that you
could the simpsons essentially you could never leave a room and get it all made you know they
i mean they got it's such a machine some reason i thought the animation would be more time intensive
it is very impressive i think it is i think it is but uh it's it's you know i would also say
simpsons is 30 minutes where gun smoke
was an hour oh that's a good point in a way it's twice as many yeah yeah that's like 1200 episodes
yeah good point all right i'm convinced yeah i came around uh all right yeah yeah i think this
one's all right yeah i'm tired i got a lot there's a there's a lot uh happening there's a
lot going on uh march 18th your album came out too it came out yeah yeah on friday it's number
one on itunes yeah we checked her up for this podcast oh it's still number one it went back
it went back to number one wow pretty cool Pretty cool. Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah, that's awesome, dude.
Yeah, thanks, man.
You wore your NFL hat.
Just your Rob Lowe.
This is a Rob Lowe hat. Rob Lowe NFL hat.
For sure.
Congrats, man.
That's awesome.
Thanks, dude.
Yeah, so go buy shirts and skins on iTunes, on everything.
Yeah.
And it's number one.
So it's easy to find right now.
Yeah.
All right.
That is it. This is, yeah, my special now. Yeah. All right. That is it.
This is, yeah, my special March 18th.
Netflix.
Don't forget that.
Greatest Average American.
A lot going on.
Bates.
Album.
You have an album.
Yep.
Easy Out.
Easy Out.
You can buy it at most cattle auctions or other fundraising events.
Yeah.
And we get asked, the guy that reads the news to you.
It's basically, that's the review
of the the i have about 500 hard copies in the trunk of my car yeah if anybody wants one uh we're
gonna hand out uh brian's uh driver's license numbers so just keep a lookout for that if you
see it and grab it uh all right everybody thank you See you next week. Thank you.