The Nateland Podcast - The Nateland Crossover | Don't Make Me Come Back There

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

Hey Back Seaters and Hello Folks! This week we have a very special crossover episode of Don't Make Me Come Back There and The Nateland Podcast. Dustin and Melissa Nickerson join the hosts of the Nateland Podcast on the new Nateland set in Nashville, Tennessee. Why the crossover episode, you ask? Because we're excited to announce that Don't Make Come Back There is becoming a part of The Nateland Podcast Network. Dustin, Melissa and the Nateland crew talk about what the big announcement means as well as delve into a fun discussion about parenting.  

Hey everybody, welcome to Don't Make Me Come Back There. We are a funny podcast about family. My name is Dustin Nickerson. I'm a stand-up comedian and the host of the aforementioned podcast. And alongside me in a state-of-the-art recording studio, not in San Diego, but in Nashville, Tennessee, is my lovely wife, my co-host, my CFO, and overall great gal, Melissa Nickerson. Hi there. How are you, Mel? I'm great.

I like your shirt. I'm great. You kind of got like 90s McDonald's vibes, kind of Playplace vibes. I like it. It's a good look. And alongside Melissa, because today is a very special day of Don't Make Me Come Back There, is three-fourths of the crew of Nateland. So it's wild.

Nate, Fagazzi, Brian Bates, Aaron, Osefis Weber. You come out of the gate hot. I know. I told, I told, this was like the big adjustment. It was like, we,

we come out real, we're like above a coffee shop. Yeah. We get caffeinated. We get our kids off to school. And we like, I think we, it's like a,

you know, when you're doing a bad gig and you have to throw, you do an hour worth of material in about 20 minutes. Yeah. That's the pace we run on. Yeah. So there's people who listen to Nate Land right now. They're like, I don't like any of this.

We can't even keep up with you. Yeah. I don't know what he's saying. I know. That is nothing's worse than when you do a show. That's one of those that I guess if people understood comedy or if you could feel comedy to feel that, you can do an hour worth of material in 25 minutes.

Yes, this is fun. We have a segment on our podcast called Dustin's Comedy Corner, the DCC, where every once in a while we just apologize to the audience for talking about something that I know bores them. But you know, there's always like a small segment of the population who wants that. But the majority of the population has no idea that you're like, no, sometimes you got to do this bad gig, you know,

for like 20 people. And you're like, they're like're like you gotta do an hour yeah you look down your clock you're like 11 minutes oh and you're looking your norm like this is usually the halfway marker yeah yeah i this weekend i forgot something out of an order and i was hitting like stuff about my parents and i was like like, golly, I'm already, there's like 27 minutes, 30 minutes. And I'm like already in it. I'm like,

I think I should be winding down. And then I did figure out, I left a whole chunk out. So then I got to figure out how to get it back in. Yeah. So it doesn't just look like, yeah, I don't know what I'm doing.

Yeah. Well, we're happy We're honored So we have Started a podcast network The Dayland Podcast Network And this is you guys are our first podcast That we have On the network

And we're super pumped about it Yeah we're honored to be a part of it Yeah we're big fans You know known you, we're honored to be a part of it. Yeah, we're big fans. You know, known you guys forever and Dustin, you've been out with us and you guys are killing it and I think you fit very well. You obviously fit very well into the world that we

are doing and so thanks for having us on your first podcast. Dusty refused. He's just standing right behind the camera. I only have one Dustin with glasses. i can't be associated with another can't have two no can't have two dust no dust would be his flight big flight stuff this week bad flight yeah yeah i drove from huntsville so it was kind of i got out ahead of it and then we drove from huntsville and um i thought i would feel worse for all my friends getting delayed, but I didn't.

Yeah. I don't know why. I think I just, I'm like, yeah, it happens. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? Yeah. Not for me. I would only, I was thinking about it.

I was like, next weekend I'm in Fort Wayne. And I was like, I wouldn't mind missing maybe one of those shows. Yeah. Like if I had to miss the Friday late and they had to go to the Saturday, that'd be okay with me, actually. You guys should just stay. Just stay here, yeah. What do you like when he's – what if he's delayed?

Well, I'm kind of used to it right now. Yeah. It's getting pretty bad. Yeah, just like you kind of expect like at least two hours. You know, I mean, are you like, I wish she was here? Do you sometimes, is it, well, sometimes you're like, you know what? Are you excited? Are you excited?

Could you be a little? No, no. I'm like, you got to get home and help me. That's what it is. You're not happy to see me. You're happy for the relief. The second shift. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like the, you know, like, where were you? A swing shift comes in. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the girl, you know, like, where were you? A swing shift comes in. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly it. You get really, and I wonder if Lars the same way, around the holidays is like when it. Yeah.

I get a little triggered. Yeah. You know, like in December, I'm like, okay, what time's your flight? Like planes, trains and automobiles stop. Like, because it's just too important. You don't mess with the week before Christmas. We don't take them that serious.

I just get fancy. When you travel a lot for work, we'll celebrate your birthday on a different day, but you do that with Jesus Christ. Jesus, well, he's there the whole time so he understands i don't talk to him irregularly like you do i talk to him every day he's in this room he's in this room right now i don't know that he came in this room just to meet you for a second are you talking about yeah are you talking about the doctrine of an

omnipresent god because I'm ready to go. I'll theologize this podcast all day. I didn't go to, you know, I'm a proper Christian, too, you know. That's philosophy major over here. I studied the book, not the questions. Did you take a whole class on Thomas Aquinas and angels? I did. No.

I was like, dang. But I know who that is. Yeah, you know Thomas Aquinas. Yeah, he was kind of the mystic of the old group right he was he broke a little bit okay you had you had augustine who was little more a little more like kind of your what would you call like uh i don't know like more reform like kind of like by the book but aquinas he got a little more mystical he was a little more kind of out there on some of the ideas. He was just an Aristotelian. He just loved Aristotle.

All right, now we're just throwing words. I don't know. I mean, you dropped omnipresent earlier. You kind of raised the bar here. Well, to be fair, Nate said I wasn't a Christian. You're a California Christian. Yeah. It's a different scale.

You're like the Pope out there. That's fair enough. I think that the I think it might be in there, but the shade, the last week, the impression that Aaron did of me, which Dusty was right, was very insulting.

The nasal? Yeah, but what you said and I don't know if you mentioned it Was much meaner Do you remember what you said? You go First off It's an impression of somebody

Nobody knows I don't know if that's It's It is what is mean But you weren't there So it was easier to do it Now everybody knows you I knew this was happening Yeah yeah me, but you weren't there, so it was easier to do it. Now everybody knows you. I knew this was happening.

He's planting the seeds. Then everybody goes, well, who is that guy? Oh, I'll tell you who that guy is. Now you know. Now you know who that guy is. Brilliant. Pulling the strings. A real Aquinas. I know that doesn't make sense at all. Dustin's one of the most requested

guests we've had to be on our podcast. Which, we have some comments. I don't believe y'all do comments. We read comments on our podcast. We do emails. We got a Facebook group. We're Nate Land Light in that regard.

Oh, yeah. We're just doing barely better than you. And then you will, in two weeks, you acquire us. And now we're like, golly, that went way wrong. Yeah. I don't know what happened. Let's read.

Here's some of our comments. David Bushy. That's his last name. Bushy. Bushy. You hit it so hard, though. David Bushy. That's his last name. Bushy. Bushy. You hit it so hard, though. David Bushy. That's tough.

I bet he prefers to not even say his last name. It's tough when your last name is an adjective. That's true. You don't want... I would just tell everybody

it's Boucher. Yeah. David Boucher. Oh, yeah. That'll clear that up. Just call me Bush. Yeah. Boucher. I may David Boucher. Oh, yeah, that'll clear that up. Just call me Bush. Yeah. Boucher.

I may be in the minority here, but I actually think Aaron Webber did a good Dustin Nickerson impression. There you go. If you close your eyes and listen to your picture, Dustin, there you go. I've heard him enough. I think I've got it down. Oh, man. Yeah. That sounded like you've heard too much.

Yeah. I mean, yeah. I've had to sit through enough. We haven't done like you've heard too much. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I've had to sit through enough. We haven't done that many dates together. You did enough. You officiated my wedding. That's true.

I'm familiar with your voice. That's true. That is true. I had a hot set. Yeah, you did. Did you get paid for that? No, but I did. That's crazy. They did give us a hotel.

No flight, no travel buyout. Wow. But there was. Wow. Wow. Gotta bring. Yeah. My wife made a bad deal a hotel. Oh. No flight. No travel buyout. Wow. But there was. Wow. Wow. Gotta bring. Yeah. My wife made a bad deal.

Yeah. Yeah. She gave you a bad deal. No hotel. This was before I could sell tickets. Yeah. So Sinsheimer gave me a bad no door deal. He goes, look, there'll be a lot of industry there.

There was actually. It was pretty good exposure. I got bookings from it. Yeah. I got passed at the comedy zones From that Oh yeah This guy's good

Yeah This preacher's good Yeah He's got a pretty Little set here That reminds me Of the first time I ever met Dustin

Hold on David Bushy Yeah First time I ever met Dustin I don't know if you remember this Christian comedy Association Conference There's a lot of C's in there

C-C-A-C I barely got to go because I'm not a Christian. West Coast Christian. West Coast Christian. We're doing this showcase show and I hear there's industry here. Oh, this is exciting. And I go up there

and I do my set and I see a guy in the audience. No, wait, wait. You went. And this guy gets up when you get off stage and rushes you and I'm like, who is that?

And they're like, that guy's like a manager. He wants to manage Dustin. And I'm like, I gotta impress him. And I get up there and do my set and I look out,

that guy's asleep in the audience. Literally like this. Oh, man. Do you remember that? Whoa. And did you go wake him up and say,

can you manage me? What do you think? And he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll do it. Do you remember that, Dustin? I forgot about that. No. But you remember it now? I do now.

Absolutely. Yeah. That's really hammering home to make sure he remembers it. Yeah. You remember that? You remember that, Dustin? He goes, no. What about now?

No. I remember. What about now, Dustin? Remember that, Dustin? He goes, no. What about now? No. I remember taking the manager. What about now, Dustin? He's right behind you. And then this weekend, I did a podcast. And I said beforehand, I was like, who else you guys got coming on? And they're like, well, we're going to get Dustin Nickerson tomorrow.

And I guess that was it while we were in town. And then I asked at the end of the podcast, when will this come out? And they said, well, we're pretty backlogged. We've got Mark Norman coming up. We've got Dustin Nickerson coming up. And I'm like, you just told me you're doing Dustin tomorrow. And they're like, yeah will this come out? And they said, well, we're pretty backlogged. We've got Mark Norman coming up. We've got Dustin Nickerson coming up. And I'm like, you just told me you're doing Dustin tomorrow. And they're like, yeah, but come on. They're like, we fell asleep during the editing.

We got pushed. This is why we're starting a podcast with him and not you. I thought it was on this one. And you've been on ours. And then we stopped having guests it's just us now it's not a bad thing it's a lot to book guests

it is and you have a dynamic and we were like a husband wife thing is it like too much y'all feel like y'all talk too much now because of the podcast we'll save stuff do you guys do that too you too much now? Because of the podcast? You're married? We'll save stuff. We'll save stuff. Do you guys do that too?

You'll be like, save it for the podcast. Like, I got this funny story from this weekend, but I'm not going to tell you yet. I'm saying as a wife. Write it down. Like, if I had to do a podcast with my wife, it's already a lot. Because you live with them, you know? I don't know how most marriages are, but in our marriage, we live together. And then.

Old-fashioned values. I would think that it is good that you do travel. Because then there is, like, some. The travel does help to bring together, like, more stories and antidotes. Yeah. You know? It's a lot of, like, how was your weekend? Like there is an amount of like catching up

that we start every episode with like a weekend recap. And I'm like, I was in Fort Wayne. And you're like, well, I had a volleyball tournament. Yeah. And I was like, okay, well, say hi to the kids. Yeah. Do you ever have to pause a fight or pause an argument to do a podcast?

Yes. Yeah. And you think you can tell if you listen to it or you guys hide it pretty well? My energy, like I can't like lie about anything. Not a liar. And so there will be some times when we just got to like circle a block. Like we cannot record yet. Like I'm like seething.

You know, and you can't banter and be witty when you're like literally like you know you're the reason you know hey you wanna go be funny together

we start off saying we're a funny podcast you should do it by you do those by zoom and y'all are just you're like in separate bedrooms I'm like hi

yeah and alongside me is my wife. We are here. I'll take her or leave her. No, it's difficult for sure. But we enjoy it. We have fun. It's fun to be creative together.

Yeah. I think that's a great thing. I think it adds, it is a special thing to the relationship and then you're both involved in it in your careers and you know it's like we have with my wife and because it's hard it's hard you don't want to just be like completely even though you're separate right you want to be like you know because you've been here the whole time so it's like yeah it's all absolutely yeah well and i

think uh fans and like they enjoy you know know, like seeing like your life, your story, your family. Yeah. You know, I think I think it's similar to why your podcast works and that it is different. And it's like four or five comics, not just like one comic talking because like that exists and they're the biggest podcast in the world. And so what you guys are doing is different. And we started off with guests. And then during COVID, I was like, can we just do this? Because you first off, there's a different side of me because you're different with your spouse.

Yeah. Anyways. And I think you're so funny. And like what I try to make you. So it is like it just it's a totally it's different than the act. It's different than me being. And I'm not a comic. And I'm just like goofy and hitting stuff, you know.

That was well-timed. Get your phone on the table. I can't have the headphones. They'll just distract me. I get confused. But I try to just be myself and bring myself. Cries.

We've had a couple cries. Yeah, I cry sometimes. Yeah. I am like, I worry my heart and my sleep. No, we've done that. Yeah, Brian's cried a few times. A few times.

Awesome. That's usually after the episode. No, I think it adds to it. When's the last time you cried? In life? Yeah. Oh, man. When was the last time I cried?

I usually have a pretty heavy, like a big Christmas cry. Just at Christmas? I cry a lot Christmas cry. Just at Christmas? I cry a lot at Christmas. You put the angel on the tree and you start crying? Yeah, Christmas is real melancholy. It's a kid thing. It's a parent thing.

Movies and TV shows make you cry? I cried some songs. There's some songs. I cry a decent amount. Cry from a song? Yeah. Just in the car? Yeah. What was the last? Some songs. There's some songs. I cry a decent amount. Cry from a song? Yeah. Just in the car?

Yeah. What kind of song? Do songs not make you cry? What are you listening to? I don't listen to the words. Yeah. So I've never cried in a song. I don't know any songs talking about it.

Yeah. I mean, I like sad music, man. I like a lot of sad songs. It's like the, you know, Seattle. Yeah. Y'all kind of like little. You like to be miserable. That Zach Bryan song, Going South.

That's a sad song. That's a sad song. Because y'all don't like Coming to the South? No. That guy's like, I don't know if you know the premise of the song, but it's like he's talking about his childhood and he has these big dreams and these ambitions and everyone's like calling him like a riser.

Like, you can't do this. You can never. You're just the kid who plays in the dirt. And he's like, so the song is about going south where people let you play your music loud. And then it's like, and then he calls his dad. He's like, I'm never coming back. You never believed in me.

And I'm going south. And I was like, oh, that one gets me. But you have to listen to the lyrics. Yeah. His dad didn't believe him. Yeah. I say, oh, I don't know if he's a character in it necessarily. Yeah.

But he calls and he's like calls his dad and say, I'm never coming back, you know, because they they sing my songs out here. So see, I think I would like that. The one song was a song uh what was the song uh it was the sugarland song yeah what's that yeah that sugarland song is hey mama dad dear mama dad please send money i'm so broken it ain't funny so that song yeah that song could make me cry but that would be it's the same as zach bryant but it's like that's where my mentality goes is like it's not a uh which is i mean fortunately i know people don't like their parents but it's like it's such a it's more of a positive like right right right they supported you

yeah they supported you like or they did you know yeah and then the other way is like because that song is i've succeeded and now i'm gonna come back and lift up the family who lifted me up the whole way through. You like the other way. I like it all. Everybody. You want it to be like, oh, you stupid idiot. It could be both. It could be both.

We don't trash on our parents. Huh? We don't trash on our parents. No, no, I'm saying your song. His song, he likes it. Yeah. But it's okay to like a sad song. You ever hear him listen to a song,

and then you walk in, you're like, good. Is that like that? Mel walked in on me one time doing the dishes during Christmas, bawling, because I was listening to Johnny Cash, and I was thinking about my Uncle Butch. So my house growing up was my dad and my sister and my Uncle Butch. And Butch was like 6, six, like 280. Always wore big NASCAR jackets everywhere he go.

He was a big Terry Labonte fan. So I had the cornflakes guy everywhere. Drove a big lifted truck. Earned the name. Earned the name. He was a Butch because that family had three Jims. They had Jim Nickerson, who was my grandpa, who ran illegal gambling rooms, and then

his son, James Nickerson, went by Butch, and then his son, Jimmy, went by Tater. This is why I told you, and I showed you the picture. My favorite of your SNL was Lake Beach. We were crying. I sent it to my sister, and I was

like, she's like, and the Lake Beach thing, because she and I was like, she's like the Lake Beach thing because she's in the picture. She's like she's like Lake Beach looks like a good time. And I'm like, no, Lake Beach is a good time. Yeah, yeah. But Butch had this like really baritone voice and he could like sing Johnny Cash and Johnny Cash is an excellent Christmas album. And so I was crying and doing the dishes and you walked in and I was kind of like, I don't know if you've ever happened with your partner or your spouse. And you're like, I'm like, I'm trying to be vulnerable. And you did not know how to receive it.

No, because sometimes like if you're in a place and then you come to your partner, like you're ready. And I'm like, I'm not ready to be sad. I got to go wrap all these gifts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got work to do. Now he was being productive, sad because he was doing the dishes

still adults yes and parents but uh i'm like i'm not ready to cry right now yeah that's stuff to do that's i think that's one of the hardest things about a relationship like it'd be married it's like i'm not feeling what you're feeling right now so if you're mad or sad or happy i could be the complete different emotion. And now we just have to exist together somehow. And I think sometimes with men, it's like, I'm still learning how to be supportive of you when you actually like,

like are sad. Well, yeah. Cause I'll express the sadness. Sounds like you cry a lot. Cause I'm like, what's this? I think you're backing off about how much you do cry.

What can I say here? That's this? I think you're backing off about how much you do cry. What can I say here that's not every day? Christmas. I think I went too far. I had an annual cry. And I was like, hey, I think I might have feelings now. And I was like, we're really backlogged on these feelings. So they're just coming up a little. You just broke the seal.

Does anyone have a tissue? Anyway. Aaron, you cry. You and Lucy cry together. I can't imagine. I anyone have a tissue? Anyway. Aaron, you cry. You and Lucy cry together. I can't imagine. I've just seen Aaron and Lucy. I cannot imagine. You and Lucy crying together?

Yeah. Either one of you. Yeah. I bet Lucy would make fun of you if you cried. Yeah. That's for sure. Yeah. That's for sure.

Yeah. It's more Lucy than you. Yeah. I think it's. Yeah. Yeah. I would enjoy seeing it. I think y'all probably cry quite a bit Lucy than you. Yeah. I think it's, yeah. Yeah, I would enjoy seeing it. I think y'all probably cry quite a bit.

I do. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why I'm laughing. Ruth just comes in just like, oh, man. Thank you, Melissa. Thank you. One of those nights.

I'm laughing, but I'm also like, oh, no. Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah. We're in touch with our feelings. Yeah. Sorry for caring so much. Yeah, sorry appreciate that. Yeah. We're in touch with our feelings. Sorry for caring so much. Sorry for caring so much. This is Melissa.

This is a tagline. That's my motto. Sorry for caring so much. Yeah. To my kids, to my husband. I'm sorry. Wish you were on our podcast. Oh, man.

High five across the table. Oh, man, no. Over Nate. Yeah. I'm sorry. We're not here for alliances guys We're JC Lee Pulford

I was a Dustin Ickerson fan Before I even heard of Nate For years So I'm a big fan Of what they're both doing Let's go folks There you go

Let's go folks Alright Backseaters Hey Bear All the things I know JC Yeah She runs the

Batesville podcast Yeah And post on there How nate's her favorite comic all the time yeah just do it on your own personal page she's a nicholson she's a original nicholson she was an early adopter because you like and i'm just barely out of it now uh but like when you have such a small amount of fans that you know their names. Oh, yeah. They'll like come in your line and you'll be like, Damarius, it's great to see you. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. How are the kids? Damarius. Yeah. Damaris. Damaris. I talked to her last night.

I know Damaris. Yeah. She's a patron. She's great. Yeah. She drove from Sacramento. She drove like drove a Redding. She drove out from California She's great. Yeah. She drove from Sacramento. She drove like drove a Redding. She drove out from California for the show.

In an RV. That's crazy. I mean, there were other things attached to it. Sure. She never been in Nashville. Attached the RV. She never been in Nashville. Her daughter at our, so we had the like meet and greet merch table.

And I was like selling, I was like, you know, selling shirts, signing the books and stuff. And the, there was like a mint on the table all of a sudden. She's like a 19-year-old daughter. I was like, I'm going to eat that mint. I thought Zany's put it out. I ate the mint and then another mint appeared. I was like, who's putting these mints out?

It was the daughter. The daughter just carries little mints and thought it was funny. It was funny. It was so funny. I was like, who's putting these mints out? funny. It was so funny. And I was like, who's putting these mints out? She just did like a little smirk. I was like,

I love a little bit like that. Yeah, yeah. Just keep it. And you thought it was hilarious that I ate it. She's replacing it. Yeah, yeah. She replaced the one that I ate.

You kept eating? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You're going to keep giving me free mints. Yeah. Yeah. Go to town. Bree Puckett.

I just saw Dustin's new hour. It is so good. I loved how much he talks about parenting and being married. I hope to see more of Nate and Dustin together. Well, this will be the last time. So, no. Yeah. Yeah.

You murdered, dude, at the shows. It's always, it's very fun, you know know because you just come out and destroy and uh it it's that's what i love a lot of everybody does very good but it's nice to see comics so you've been someone i always talk about a lot because you've done it on your own you went on the road you learned how you talked about doing those wednesdays and those off nights and really and then teaming up when you were with me or you were taylor you're something but you always were moving forward and you know and then i mean now in your own right uh i still trick you into coming out with me some just where it's fun but it's uh you know your headline you're doing it's all

it's all moving forward. Thanks, man. It's good. Yeah, it's been, it's fun. I always say to my team, which is like new to have a team, it's like just brick by brick. You know, just trying to compete with myself. Like, did I sell better than last year? Am I getting some fans?

Did I get a little funnier? Did I write a new joke? You know, and it's been it's last year. So you did a guest set last time. It was this weekend last year. And you were talking to me in the parking lot. It was really nice. You're like, hey, man, like it's about to get really fun.

Yeah. And listen, there's some rough ticket counts on the calendar. I'm not going to act. We got some markets we're building and there's a half a brick laid so far. But like a weekend like this where it was like just short of like three sellouts and it was it was fun and their fans and they're on board with you like out of the gate. It's like, oh, this has gotten I've gotten better and it's gotten easier. Like, I don't have to dance the way that I used to, you know, like, you know, you come out and you're like, I don't have to prove to them that I'm funny. They're already invested, which is

nice. It's a good feeling. Thanks for all the boost and support. Absolutely. So you guys' podcast is about parenting. What are we talking about? Yeah, we're talking about parenting today. I'm a new parent. Aaron's about to be a parent.

I got a lot of questions for you guys. We had our kids really young. Even counting Dustin, we've been parents longer than all you guys combined. It is fun that we're at the different stages.

You have... 12. Pre-teen. How old is your kiddo? You know, you have 12, 12. So preteen, yeah, preteen, young. How old's what's the what's the how old's your kiddo? Eleanor. Eleanor. I'm sorry. No, no, no. He was just going to sit on that. What's that chick that lives in your house?

How old's Ruth? I was asking how old your wife was. I don't know. All right. How much is she? Yeah. Yeah. Where's your I want... I'm here for Ruth's stats. No, I don't care about your daughter. What's your home address? What's she pulling annual income, Ruth, these days? More than me. Let's just leave it at that.

And then you got a baby. Eleanor is two. Eleanor is two. I was right. All right. So, anyway. I'm not good at that stuff. I have nieces and nephews that I don't remember how many kids they have in their ages but you really

i log in i know all the birthdays yeah yeah my mom knows all birthdays yeah she's always remembered everybody's birthday it's a good mom yeah that's nice okay yeah you guys just have a note in your phone you know yeah that's true Or Facebook does it for me. Not for the kids, though. For Eleanor? You got Eleanor on Facebook? This is the only social media we allow. Facebook. The second she starts talking,

we're going to get her. Monetized. I mean, we just, you know, she's almost there, but like, yeah. We need to get some young blood in this podcast. Well, she's been on before. She has. Oh, nice. Yeah. That, she's been on before. She has. Oh, nice.

Yeah. That's awesome. So you guys have three kids. We have three kids. You're one of three. I'm one of three. Is the whole birth order thing, which you always hear about,

is it true? Mel loves talking about birth order. I do love birth order. Where are you at in order? I'm first. You're first. And then you have a sister. Then I have my brother, Derek.

Yeah. Then my sister, first. You're first. And then you have a sister. Then I have my brother, Derek, then my sister, Abigail. Okay. Okay. So is it true? Birth order. Birth order for our kids? Yeah. Well, what, first, what, like, the stereotypical high-achieving, like, what are the- Independence.

Here's what psychologists say. First-born children typically motivated to meet their parents' expectations, described as perfectionist, reliable, conscientious. Middle children more enjoy negotiation and compromise.

They're peacemakers. Younger children develop natural confidence from attention they receive. I would think that's true. Yeah. My brother's very peaceful. Oh yeah, for sure.

He's the only one I can talk to in your family. Your brother's a missionary, wasn't he? Yeah, he is. He's a principal, but they did a lot of mission work. He just went over to Uganda and came back. You guys have that in common.

You have a missionary sibling. Yep. Well, and my sister was two. Siblings, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would think it's certainly... And does it matter if it's a boy or girl? The order. You've read otherwise on that. Mel loves this stuff. I do love this stuff. Well, the reason I

love it is because I'm a first daughter, but I have an older brother, but then I have twins under me. So I kind of like meet all the boxes except the youngest. Because I think you told me once that birth order can, if it is sometimes, if the

top two are different genders, that they can end up kind of both being first born. Because they don't necessarily live in the shadow and get the comparison. Or if there's enough years in between, it it can change too but i would say like our son is not a perfectionist but he is the most reliable of the three kids for for sure and then our youngest is like the baby of babies like yeah for sure so um she's to work for us one day. She's 10. Let's get real here.

Can you sell merch? Because I got to stop soon. Our middle is really good at makeup. So maybe. We're going to employ all our kids. I feel like at least where our kids are at right now, like life-wise, 17-year-old boy, 14-year-old girl, 10-year-old girl. There are things about their life that are more dominant than their birth order.

Like there might be parts of it that Gloria, our middle child, represents being a middle child. But really what she is is a 14-year-old girl. That's what she is. So, like, that's the driving force and, like, kind of makes her who she is who like that's the driving force and like kind of makes her who she is but i think i wonder if some of the birth order stuff like makes more sense as your adults like there are see where they yeah you know because joel is a high achiever they are he's but also he could be a part-time lifeguard i don't know dustin says he's gonna major in vibes yeah he's a socal bro he's tough he's so mad he's not at the beach right now yeah you know he's like oh it's a perfectly good monday yeah yeah yeah san diego is the most i love we've ruined him yeah we've ruined him we love living in san diego but i'm from seattle and uh it's such

an unmotivated group of people because what do you do? You already won. Yeah. Every day is the best. Every day is the best. Yeah. It's called America's Finest City. They have a phrase, San Diego, no bad days.

You just go get delicious tacos. What'd you do? Nah. I longboarded to get some fish tacos. Yeah. Surfed. You know, I called my family.

We're all really close still. Yeah. You did a bonfire. Someone has to work though. Yeah. You're like, I feel like, you know, I called my family. We're all really close still. Yeah. You did a bonfire. Someone has to work though. Yeah. You're like, yeah, I feel like in every family, like the families all agree with that. And then there's one guy like, it's a lot of pressure.

Yeah. Because I have to pay for these, everybody beneath me. That's just like, it's easy, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This guy's out here like, and this guy's out. But they don't, they don't require. Yeah. They don's easy, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This guy's out here like this guy's out.

But they don't they don't require. Yeah. They don't require much, though. Yeah. It's like you're on the surfboard. Yeah. The ocean's free. The ocean is free.

And he only wears vintage like resale clothes. So that's really cheap. This is one that he picked up in a thrift store right here. So yeah, he finds his clothes. Ninety one. He found it in a thrift store for like two dollars. Yeah. But he does have an entrepreneurial spirit. He sells. He's got a little business. Yes, he found it in a thrift store for like $2. But he does have an entrepreneurial spirit.

He sells. He's got a little business. That's right. I think, yeah, you told us that. He sells vintage clothes, which is really cool. Yeah, we're proud of him. He's almost an adult. At what age or is it there yet? You start becoming friends with your kids. I think there's this saying, it's like, okay, this is good.

It's like cop when they're little and then it's like coach. And then I don't remember the third one. It's like okay this is good it's like cop when they're little and then it's like coach yeah and then i don't remember the third one it's like three c's you set that up so strong this is good this is gonna be so good listen up you really had like i got something real inside started off great yeah yeah i'm so sorry captain yeah maybe it's cheerleader cheerleader isn't one of them? That kind of sounds right. Yeah. Yeah.

So like we're kind of in that coach to cheerleader part because like we're still financing his life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we're also like, hey, this is your life. Yeah. Not our life.

Like these are your grades. You know, these are your friends. Teens are a weird tension. Your decisions. Yeah. Because. I mean, they affect us. Absolutely.

Yes. Yeah. And kind of like nate was saying earlier like we're paying for all this still so it's like they have this like fierce sense of independence be like dude i pay for your house your phone yeah your car your get like i'm i'm i'm still they don't want you to be in charge but you absolutely they need you so it's a tough transition you know can he beat you in sports now so joel uh any joel is joel might run in college joel runs like a 430 mile he's like crazy fat and mel ran in college a distance runner and it's a it's we'll just see he's at

tension with like i'm a high achieving firstborn and I'm crazy athletic and an honor roll student, but also these vibes, bro. Like, I don't know if I want to go to college to like try. And you're like, you know, okay.

Uh, it'd be great if you did. Yeah. Because your coach is like, you could run D one. He's like, I don't know though. You know,

I gotta go to the beach. Yeah. The beach is so overpowering. Could do the surfing. It's colleges out there. Oh, I don't know. You know, he's not a great he's a great skateboarder, though.

He just goes out and like barrel rolls. Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel this? I tugging to Harper where like my dad always said to my sister

because me and my sister were both first generation college students. It was like really harped on us. Like my dad was like single dad, union union worker my uncle lived with us to help pay rent and he was like you have to go to college and you have to get a degree and like but it's like hard to have this job and tell my kids that like you gotta go to college yeah you gotta like get a business degree or be an because they're like, well, you just, you

just, you just talk about what you talk about on stage and you made more money than like we ever, it's stupid. You made more money than you did in your old day jobs, you know? Yeah. I, uh, I mean, yeah, that, you know, my college didn't work out. So, uh, we went, my dad went to college, uh, later. My mom didn't. Then my, uh, it was, but yeah, I don't, I don't think I would make her go to, I wouldn't,

you know, it just depends on what she wants to do. Yeah. It would be like, if you're really going to something to, you know, if she really wants to do something that is like, all right, an engineer or something, you're like, all right, well, you need to go to school for that stuff. Right. But if it's almost anything outside of that, you could just be like well just you know just go learn how to do it right we had uh justin galindo our uh he's uh be my production manager comes out of

the road me he was just out with us and uh he was like that guy just started working at like in anaheim uh the arena there like 14 and just was like you know started at the very bottom and then it's just like and he knows everything has been in every situation and so i mean he's people coming out of college wouldn't even couldn't even compete with him right because it's he's already had to deal with everything. I think you're right. I think that like we college, not only is it from our point of view, we can't harp like a traditional job search, like because of what we do for a living. But also people kind of like are realizing there's so many different paths now. And the college isn't not necessary. Not only is it maybe not the like the best idea.

In some cases, it's a bad idea. If you have to go meander for a while, we're like, hey, community college is free. Maybe get a taste of it. It could slowly become almost a privileged idea. To be able to go and waste your time. And money. So much money. But a lot of people, it doesn't matter.

They just do it and then they don't ever have a debt or stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, there's, you know, I mean, I don't know what they're in. I don't know what classes they're taking. It's all weird. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like in the next 25 years, people are going to really keep start looking at colleges and be like, what is going on? Right. It's kind of already happening yeah it's already happening gen z isn't going to college

nearly as much no enrollment is down like everywhere yeah yeah and prices are up yes they are good combo now aaron both of your you and lucy are both in entertainment do you think your daughter will go to college will you encourage her i don't know her too well yet i haven't seen that gpa yet well this is an interesting question i was going to ask you how often do you find yourself letting your kids do something or pursue something that you think is a mistake or you think they have no future in how often do you just sit back and let your kids make a mistake versus trying to steer them in the right direction initially. Well, a current one that I have is travel volleyball because we have an incoming freshman. And we've kind of sidestepped that by doing like local travel and like camps, like which are less travel based.

and like camps like uh which are less travel based um yeah but you're also like you want to give her you know the best opportunity to play in high school and have a group and um but also you're like i don't know it's not quite exactly what you asked me but it was the first thing that came to mind yeah yeah but you're like am i stifling her or is it just like not going to happen? Well, that basketball stuff with the kids or sports with kids is out of control.

Travel stuff. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And there it's, I thought I just, or you see stuff where,

cause people want to get in that travel and they're just telling kids like, just go play near your house. Like it's, I know you call some parents.

There's tons of money. And time. You could buy a car. Right. Right. No, you're costing parents tons of money. And time. You could buy a car. Yeah. Or you could play travel. You have to devote your whole life to it. Who knows that this kid will want to play

baseball or basketball when they're in high school. When a lot of times they don't. But it is tough because there is a tension because like, you know, growing up playing sports,

like if you did, there are a lot of good core memories there. And it was very good outlets, you know. There's also some trauma and bad memories. The sliding back into first base is a... Yeah. That worked. That came around.

Yeah, that came around. Now you make content. Yeah. 40 years later, it paid off. Yeah, some stuff you got to sit on. Yeah, yeah paid off. Yeah. Sometimes you got to sit on. Sometimes you got to sit on. Yeah.

I guess sign your kid up for travel sports. But it is, it is like, it got so competitive. But if you want your kids to play in high school, especially like we go to a big high school. Public school. Yeah. A big public school that has a big sports program. And like, if, if Gloria didn't do some of those camps and play some of those, she probably wouldn't make the team. There's 15 spots.

Yeah. And there's 600 incoming freshmen. And the more specialized the sport, like particularly a baseball, a soccer, a basketball, those kind of things. Running is great because you're faster, you're not. Yeah. You got a pair of shoes? Yeah, you can get out there uh but it is so you i think a lot of parents they do that and they their heart is good and they're like i want the best for my kid i want them to and the worst part is your kids get older you don't want teens with downtime that's the old what's the uh

idle hands makes the devil's work? Like, you can't be bored. I need you to have something to do. So you're, I feel like, do you agree with that? Do you think, do you try to eliminate boredom? Are you saying you disagree with that? No, I try and keep it, we try and keep it as busy as possible.

No, no, no, no. There's this new movement that you gotta let your kids be bored so they can be creative and like learn. You can't just like have them on an ipad all day yeah um but i do think that's different with teens because they have so much time yeah like they don't go to sleep like they're up at one in the morning yeah like i'm asleep but they're up yeah so like they need to get tired by doing a sport or i I mean, we've got a drama kid. We got a karate kid. Like it doesn't matter what.

Yeah. You just got to do something. It's like when you have like a, and I feel for you guys, like with the young kid. And you're like, you'll have a whole day. And it's just you and that kid. And you're like, hey, let's draw. And that kills eight minutes. Yeah.

You're like, get back on your iPad. Yeah. Let's play some cards. Oh, you don't know how to play any games alright well I don't know what game can I teach you they're like there's so much day to eat up when you're at all

like on a Saturday you just don't want them to do anything our kids still have free time we try and if we can get them in programs just to like go be active for a couple hours just move go do something somewhere else and also go succeed go fail go be part of a team get a different voice into your life yeah you know like anything yeah ideally a good one but even a bad one we can be like that's a bad one listen to us yeah so yeah we're at the age where independent play is not there yet no yeah

she's gotta have us there with her yeah watching even yeah and it's like uh it's probably similar like you might be a little out of it but like we oh i'm definitely eight nine eight nine ten eleven year old or like we'll come up and tell you you're bored and like that's a thing we would never tell our parents. Yeah. It would not. It was not our parents' responsibility to entertain us. Yeah, you would go do stuff. Yeah.

I remember I said if I was bored, my dad would go, oh, I got some stuff you can do. Yeah. Go mow the yard. Yeah. Go rake it. Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And if you don't want to do that, you're not really bored. Yeah. Yeah. But now that Shifted is, they kind of like look to the parents to like be the cruise director of the home like what do we got going on next yeah here's the agenda for the day yeah i'm tired well maybe because you can't send them out like you used to no i mean we would just roam yeah yeah just be free that is kind of dead huh it is and even like getting on a bike and leaving like old people are no offense but like people will call the police if they see a child out.

Yeah. Like an eight, nine year old. That's like socially unacceptable in a lot of cases. Wow. I used to just get on the bike and I'd be gone all day. Yeah. Not really doing anything, but I'd just be riding around. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, you would, especially during summer. We talked about this one of the episodes. You would just like disappear all day. And you got home and your parents like, what? They wouldn't even ask you what you do. But you had like jumped off the school roof that day. You had like, you'd been playing in the ravine.

You'd met a friend. You got in a fight. You saw, you know. Stole from a store. You stole from a store. Yeah. You were like. It wasn't all good.

It wasn't all good. All right. I was trying to elevate the bit. Oh, my gosh. Trying to elevate it. Did you steal? I stole once, yeah. You did.

Oh, my gosh. Get in my car. I got caught. It was bad. What did you steal? Bubble gum. Yeah. Funny candy.

So, yeah, we try and keep them busy. Especially, one of our kids had to go to summer school and we were like awesome yeah that's good i like that it was like a week and a half yeah yeah i like that you got to get up and have and that's a natural consequence yeah that's true yeah yeah yeah like you can't get mad at us. You're great. I listen to your podcast. You guys talk about some good and some bad with your kid. A lot of bad. Do you ever run anything by them beforehand? Or be like, that's too much. Notice I didn't say which kid went to summer school.

We try and keep it vague. They would know. But you wouldn't know which one of my kids struggles, well, more than one of them struggles in math. But that's my fault. They were bad. Yeah, they were based on being they were pre-qualified to be bad at math based on the half of the DNA being mine. But, yeah, we we try to like we try and talk about them in a way that is vague if we're telling like a maybe negative story. But I don't I don't think we're really like

you know like making them look too bad. But you're a listener so you tell me are you like I can't believe we say that about our kids. Brian was disgusted. I was. Brian was disgusted. We are using our children for content. Don't act like we aren't all. But you did say something very funny last week about how

you have to buy all this expensive sports equipment to try out. You don't even know if they're going to make the team. They should let you rent it. And then if they don't make the team, return it. That's why second-hand sporting goods are full. It's because you buy the volleyball cleats and the knee pads and then you don't know if they made

the team or not. Volleyball cleats? I'm sorry. It's a different kind of volleyball. Is that why she's not making them? It's not their ice skate winter spikes. She's got her track spikes. But yeah, there is like, you're like, it's like a down payment. You're like, I have to make all this in here, like an onboarding. And then they get cut.

And you're like, I mean, my last year of baseball growing up was like, I had gotten hurt during like the spring. I was on like an american legion we were supposed to be on the travel ball team and the coach pulled me aside and he was like hey man like uh like you're pretty hurt and you're probably not gonna get a lot of playing time based on that and like you know like we've we've got some other players that we're gonna get in here and i was like i took it and i was like i was like dude this is gonna be my moment this is like my like motivation i got all hyped i was like, I was like, dude, this is going to be my moment.

This is like my like motivation. I got all hyped. I was like, I'm going to come back and I'm going to show this guy. I'm going to be, I'm going to be the team captain this year. I'm going to go off. And I went home and told my dad and my dad goes like, I mean, it's a lot of money for you to ride the bench. And I quit.

And you got a job. Yeah. And I was like, I mean, cause what are you just a single dad paying for this? He's like, I don't want to. There is an element where you know someone's paying to watch their kid, right? They're sitting there in like $200 LeBrons. Yeah. No scuffs on them.

Yeah. Yeah. Still sticky. Yeah. I'm okay if you ride the bench. I think the team element, you can still contribute. You can still practice. You still have a social group.

I'm totally fine if you don't get any playing time. Yeah, that's fair. As long as you try hard. Yeah. And you can afford it. I mean, that's the problem is like travel and these high school sports, they're very expensive. But at least there's no entry fee in high school sports.

There's still like – That's true. But sometimes some of them require quite a bit of skill. Yeah. That you have to learn in batting coaches and training camps. Yeah, I think, I would imagine if you're, if you're, if you're getting asked to go do it, it's almost like that. Like you got to go like, you know, if you're just naturally like you can tell they're like yo we need this kid to go yeah because i you know that a lot of these kids get into this stuff and there's there's ways to get in where

it's not costing everybody right everybody can afford all this right and then and then but maybe the ones they're keeping alive are the ones that are you know that can't afford it yeah kid yeah yeah i think you're right. And I think that there are sometimes there's obviously these exceptions. When you hear Khalil Mack didn't play football until his junior year, and you're like,

that was an exception. Antonio Gates. Yeah. San Diego. He played basketball. Yeah, exactly. And he's in a Hall of Fame as an NFL title. It's crazy. Yeah, that's like a's in a Hall of Fame as an NFL title.

It's crazy. Yeah, that's like a kid that you're, I don't think they ever came and said, hey, we need you to play travel ball. Like it was like, he's like, I'll do whatever I want. I'm just naturally. It's just amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But if you got a kid that has to work at it and is just not naturally gifted, it's like, yeah, then you are going to probably have to. Yeah. It's also tough, like, if they're on the good team and they don't get playing time. Yeah, right. But they practice with, like, good kids or you get them on the bad team and they get a lot of playing time. Yeah. But they're not getting, like,

quite the same experience. People do that in small schools, too. Like, they'll be like, yeah, I went to state. And I was like, dude, you're, what? What division? You know, like they'll be like yeah i went to state and i was like dude you're what what division you know like you can if you go to a small enough school you can be a high achieving athlete yeah and maybe that's better i don't know yeah because in your mind big fish and then later on in life you're like no i was like a four-year letterman and you're like i mean you had eight students yeah everyone that went to the school was on the basketball team. There's a school here, MJCA,

and my buddy, Michael Clay, who I started comedy with. They have, I want to say, five people in their class. The basketball team was all hands on deck. I still wouldn't start.

We're better with four. Yeah. Just play a diamond. Yeah. They just have you staying in the corner of the, they're going to just

stay in there the whole game. Technically, we need you on the court. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But just be in there. Don't move. Don't play offense.

Don't play defense. We think they were all friends. I mean, you got it. Yeah, yeah. I still talk to a few of them. Yeah. And I didn't go to that school.

Like, yeah, you can't not. Because they all worked at the water company, too. So when I went to work together after school, that's on Mount Juliet. Yeah. You're all out there. And it's a five person class. I think the school is like a lot bigger in the group. Yeah.

Yeah. Four of them. Mix it up. Yeah. Yeah. Clicks of cliques. It was. The school's five kids. Yeah.

Yeah. They all have their own lunch table. Yeah. Talk about a graduation, though. Yeah. I mean, it was. Quick. That's it.

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Our eighth grade. They did like, so our kids like the eighth grade promotion. Promotion. It was. He almost promotion. It was. He almost died. I was like, I, for, I, it was like two and a half hours.

It was long. Yeah. Nickerson is too deep. You can't move early. Plus Gloria is a singer. So she performed. Yeah. And that was great.

I'm not a monster. That was great. But it's like, we had to get there at like six 30 in the morning. Oh yes. It's like, we work at night. This is.30 in the morning. Yes. To get a seat. We work at night. This is crazy. It might as well be.

For eighth grade? For eighth grade. For eighth grade. Three in the morning would be easier for me than six in the morning. I'll just remain up. Oh, and we had to have flowers. She's chewing us out because we're running late, and she's stressed out.

She's really nice. We're like, we love you, and we bought you this dress and these shoes and this makeup and these nails. And go hate us. Yeah. And then we got grandma and we're just like rolling out. Like, yeah, it was terrible. Yeah. And it's so long.

And you're looking at what's tough about graduations is you can see how much time is left. It's like the loading bar. You're like, oh my gosh, we're only in the second out of 14 rows and it's going. And then there's like the speeches. There was like three kids' speeches and one of them was good.

One of them was great, actually. And then one girl was like rapped about the school and you're like, I can't. It's so bad. And then they're all trying to be like, remember when we got here in seventh grade and we were wearing our masks? As I look out here today.

Oh, God. We went home and quoted. And you know what drove me the most crazy is that there was a retiring teacher who gave a speech. I was like, I don't care that you're retiring. This isn't your moment to shine. That's at least meaningful for that person. These kids won't remember this.

But not for us. I don't know this teacher. Let the teacher have something. No. I'd rather the teacher than the, I don't know, the salutatorian of the eighth grade. That teacher gets an hour every day.

That teacher gets six hours to talk every day to those kids. They get beaten up every day and now they get a place of honor. I love teachers. Love teachers. All right? I don't need to hear about it.

He's saying, would you give them, but you just go give them a moment and be like, no, you don't got to talk. We can honor them. How long are we talking? What's the speech like? I mean, what did it feel like? Yeah. I mean, if it's a five-minute speech. Five minutes is like, that guy's earned five minutes.

But what is he, I know, but if you go honor him you honor him you bring him out it's a big thing give him a plan do it thank you so much you do most of the talking just celebrate him yeah you know and if he's gonna aaron you spoke for 60 seconds at your wedding yeah i think that's about right thank you this has meant a lot to me i devoted my life to education i'm so thankful for this opportunity thank Thank you. Yeah, well, how long did it take? I think he should get a minute for every year he'd been there. There you go.

We've been sitting outside for two and a half hours. You didn't say this was outdoors. On cement. I'm not kidding. That changes everything. The outdoor thing. The fact that you're outside. That changes everything.

A person should be. But is it shaded? No. No. No. Yeah, it shaded? No. Yeah, it's ridiculous. You're like un-unionized the teachers. I was picturing in a gym or a church or something.

Yeah, in church. That's how they do a lot of them. That's how we did ours. They move it to church? Yeah, they did. In the cathedral. Oh, yeah. It is a bit of a SoCal

flex, right? That even that they're like, well, we'll just do it outside. The weather. It's a given. Like that's ever an option in May or June. Yeah, 4 p.m. That would have been rough. We got... I was always lucky with Bargetzi. We were pretty cool.

Did your parents leave after you got announced? No. Now, my high school, I graduated 56 people. Yeah. So it's not that small. That's efficient. Yeah.

So we were never a big part of like the giant high school graduation. But we went to my nieces and, you know, they're outside and you hear them go up and talk.

Right. You know, I don't know. It's like you just, I think it's one of those you got to go like, hey, this is going to be a lot today and you hear them go up and talk right you know i don't know it's like you just i think it's one of those you got to go like hey this is going to be this is a lot it's a day and you accept it and yeah ours we both we went to different high schools we've been together like we're high school sweethearts we met like in church at uh on a church youth group trip but we went to different high schools but we both had graduations because we had in the tacoma dome

which if you play it's like a big, that's how big it was. Like, Hey, we got to get this local arena to do, you know, I don't know. I don't know if you've ever been in an arena,

but, uh, and it's a whole, is it five hours? I've heard of them. Yeah. How long is that? I mean,

three to four, at least plus driving. I don't remember my parents complaining about it. We're just different. Did y'all like it, though? What's your maiden name? Hoagland. Oh, so you're right in the middle.

Highland, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what's your maiden name? What are we doing there? I mean, it depends on what order she goes in. Oh, yeah. Oh, that was relevant. I'm sorry.

My brother got a bloody nose at his graduation, his high school graduation. Yeah. And the wrestling coach came out. Yeah. They plug noses. You know, some kids just get bloody noses.

We got one. Are you guys, is there any bloody nosers in your life? Not anymore. I used to get them. Yeah. Yeah.

You wake up, pillow's all bloody. Yeah. That's scary. Yeah. That happened to me one time. I had a sleepover. Signs of gout.

It starts up top. Yeah. You go, you didn't get that looked into. You go, wake up, you get up. Looks like the godfather. You just get up and you're like, golly, I had one last night, boy. And slept through it.

Didn't even wake up. That's a sign of youth. That you're a good heavy sleeper. That you could sleep through a bloody nose. Yeah. We can do it now because of our CPAPs. Because you're going to drown. That would not be good now.

Do you guys put that in a carry-on? Can you? When you travel? You carry yours everywhere, right? Yeah, they actually give you a... Like a travel one? I've never used it, but they just let you take it as an additional carry-on.

That's nice. Yeah, there's some kind of medical exception. I'm just curious. I just put it in a... It's an oxygen tank behind it. You got some liquids. And a walker. Goes down the aisle.

Excuse me. I put it in a suitcase, though. I don't want to carry it around. Yeah. Specifically. That's good. Because it was, you know,

I get mad when people got like extra gear. Even if they need, there's part of you like, yes, I understand. But also, I mean, do you.

Also, tighten up. It's like when, well, we had this debate. We were flying out here. And when someone puts a, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.

When someone puts a guitar in the overhead bin. We get a lot of that in Nashville. Yeah. I mean, basically every flight, there's a musical instrument. What are your thoughts on this. When someone puts a guitar in the overhead bin. We get a lot of that in Nashville. Yeah. I mean, basically every flight, there's a musical instrument. What are your thoughts on that? Because my instinct was like- Where should that go on a Southwest flight?

That's taking up a lot of spots. But also, you don't want to break your guitar. Yeah, you can't check it. Yeah. You can't check a guitar. They just get destroyed. Yeah. So you have to hold on to it.

Nick Thune, comedian, Seattle. Yeah. He has a guitar. He'll get confrontational with it. they just get destroyed yeah so you have to hold on to it nick thune comedian seattle yeah he uh he has a guitar he'll get confrontational with it yeah he enjoys it yeah yeah he likes to he likes to come in and just be like i got a guitar and he's gonna i think you have to be willing to be a little confident or at least talk to everybody yeah because you have this guitar yeah i think you're right because it is annoying because there's limited seat that that's the big thing yeah when you're especially when you're those backboarding groups you're like is there gonna be and so you walk by you're not sure and you see a guitar taking three spots you know i think you should have to declare like what you're bringing it for like the level of gig you're going

to do and then the airlines get to determine whether or not it's worth it yes you have to prove you can play it and then they get the TSA gets to go okay he can bring it you should rent one when you land

go rent a guitar and you should quit I think we're about to wrap here but I do rent a guitar and you should quit yeah yeah I think we're about to wrap here but I do have a gift for you oh yeah

so this was just for Nate just for Nate sorry guys but it can go it can go up here well

this was it was meant you have to hang it no it was I hope it goes like right there yeah so

it was meant to be well it kind of worked out nicely because we weren't sure when we were going to do this we were going to announce it but I was going to do a thank you for being out on the tour the Be Funny tour which was incredible the dates that I did they were so fun they're great I'd say it's like comedy camp it's so fun

and then just this and then everything I mean I say all the time you're like a mentor to me. I'm very grateful. And like this thing boosts behind me. So for context, we when we were in Springfield, there's a very kind of iconic comedian named Yakov Smirnoff. Yes. Who have you did you tell this on the pod?

I thought you did. No, no, we haven't seen him. I did it. Yeah, I didn't. I'll tell it here because I don't. I don't. We. So I always have the lights dark.

Yeah. When I must say. So like when I can never really see the crowd, I could barely see the front row, maybe a little neck down. Maybe I just can't really see the crowd. I like it dark because it's just easier to perform not having to look at me right this one show in springfield a one show of my entire career 10 years on the road 10 straight years on the road i've never asked for lights to

be up and this one when springfield i go you know what i was like let me have the lights up a little bit i was like maybe i think i'll enjoy seeing people having fun and stuff like that and I do it and there's one spot where the right when we do it I get on stage I have no warning and I make a lap and I go is that Yakov Smirnoff and then I have to keep then I you know because I'm in the round so I'm circling and so in my head I'm like it's you know and then I kind of

come back around and I'm looking at him again and he just kind of so the whole show yeah I'm like is that Yakov Smirnoff and I mean

he was lit up it looked like yeah I asked I'm like hey Yakov's gonna be there light him up yeah

and that's the only time I've ever asked for lights up. They've been down ever since. I've never had them up since. And of all the comedians. Yeah. He was a wonderful dude. We all got to meet him. Yeah.

You know, that guy was enormous. Seinfeld opened for him. Yeah. That's how long he's been doing it. And so he was doing, like, Seinfeld was, like, doing, he was doing 3,000 seat theaters This is back early 80s When they just didn't do theaters

Yeah He was just that big of an act Yeah Great dude So my son Help me track down this My son who's very into vintage items And very good at finding these right here

This is a gift to you So we We found this online Oh wow This is Autograph? It's autographed. This is from...

Wow. My son dates it to probably about 1988. What a country. A Yakov smear. What a country. What a country. And autographed. And signed by Yakov.

That sounds awesome. How did you find that? That is so cool. Yeah. Your son is good. He's very good. Yeah. I was like, hey, we're looking for some yeah some yakov merch

yeah and uh we found it together and he was like and he dated it he's like it's actually a good deal yeah and he's like he goes whoever we got a deal he goes he goes whoever's selling this right now can't believe this is actually being sold yeah because that's the thing with vintage items you have an item like this that you've had for years yeah and then somebody's like dude i need some yakov smirnoff merch yeah and he's like oh man for such a moment as this so oh that's awesome thank you what a country yeah well we're uh thanks for uh you know being a part of this uh i know you guys don't have to and uh but we appreciate it i think we're it's all building up into a nice awesome thing and we love seeing what you guys do and and uh but we appreciate i think we're it's all building up into a nice awesome thing and we love seeing what you guys do and and uh we can't you know wherever we're send over from our

to go listen and you know likewise yeah it's fun yeah sweet awesome well glad to have you thank you for having us it's an honor thanks how do y'all get out of your podcast you just say bye uh we go uh that's it we go that's it bye bye and then we throw our mics Nate Land is produced by Nate Land Productions and by me Nate Bargetgetze, and my wife, Laura, on the Audioboom platform. Recording and editing for the show is done by Genovations Media. Thanks for tuning in. Be sure to catch us next week on the Nateland Podcast.