The Peacock and Gamble Podcast - The Peacock and Gamble Podcast: Edinburgh Fringe 2012 Episode 13 (Tim Vine)

Episode Date: December 6, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah Pickle and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble. Because it's not a Peacock and it's not a Peacock and it is a Peacock and it is a Gamble. Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble. Here they are. Here we go for the Peacock and Gamble Edinburgh podcast. Yeah, oh, unlucky number 13. Unlucky number 13 for some. Particularly Tim Vine who's our guest today.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Yeah. His career will be ended by it. Unlucky in that he is a guest on it. Yeah, unlucky Tim Vine having to be a our guest today. Yeah. His career will be ended by him. And lucky in that he is a guest on it. Yeah. Unlucky Tim Vine having to be a guest on this. Yeah. Unlucky, mate. I saw Tim again last night.
Starting point is 00:00:51 We interviewed Tim yesterday. The other day. I saw him again last night. Yeah. On his phone. Oh, on his phone. Just in the street. Oh, show off, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:00:59 Yeah. Although, you gave me an interesting fact about Tim Vine. I don't know whether we can put that in. About his phone. He's on pay-as-you-go. He's on pay-as-you-go. He's on pay-as-you-go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is an amazing thing.
Starting point is 00:01:07 I think it's commonly known. Is it? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it says it on his Twitter. Oh, right, okay. I like that. I like that as a thing. Yeah. That completely unaffected.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Like, he's just on pay-as-you-go. Yeah. He's never changed. That is the easiest thing for him. I imagine that Tim lives a very monk-like life. Do you think? That's my guess, yeah. Yeah. Well, I think he's got a really... I think he's got a very monk-like life. Do you think? That's my guess, yeah. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:01:25 Well, I think he's got a really, I think he's got a massive mansion. Right. With nothing in it. Right. Right, literally, everything's paired right down. Right. So the kitchen is a table, a chair, and a cooker. Why do people say paired right down?
Starting point is 00:01:38 Because when people say paired right down, I imagine they... Double it up. Yeah, just put double everything. Weird, innit? Yeah. So I imagine that. I imagine that his bathroom is literally just one
Starting point is 00:01:48 toilet. Yeah. An actual proper toilet. Yeah. But then it's got a waterfall that runs through it.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Yeah. And that's where he does his showering and his washing. He does everything in the waterfall. He doesn't have toilet paper for
Starting point is 00:01:58 after doing his mug. He just turns around and puts his bum in the waterfall. Well, you would, wouldn't you, if you had a waterfall?
Starting point is 00:02:03 Of course you would. It's a natural bidet. I went to university with someone who we didn't know much. Well, you would, wouldn't you, if you had a waterfall? Of course you would. It's a natural B-day. I went to university with someone who we didn't know much about him, really. You know how you meet people in their social situation, and they're quite quiet. You don't really gather much about their personality from talking to them, but they seem perfectly nice. And then you see something about their lives, their home lives, and it all makes sense.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Right. I went to university with someone and then we saw in his room one day and he had almost, he owned almost nothing. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:31 All we could see in his room through the door was a three pants piled up, folded and a small picture of Malcolm X
Starting point is 00:02:38 stuck to his wall. Wow, that's weird, isn't it? Yeah, it's mental. Wow, that is incredible. I don't think Tim has that. No. He's got a waterfall, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:02:46 I'm not saying I don't think Tim has got a picture of Malcolm X at all. You might do. I wouldn't rule it out. Yeah. What I'm saying is I don't think he's got a room with three pants and a Malcolm X photo. Yeah, okay, that makes sense. I think he's got a writing room. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Which is parchment and the same HB pencil he wrote all his jokes with. Right, okay. Forever. It wasn't the original pen behind the ear? It all his jokes with. Right, okay. Forever. It wasn't the original pen behind the ear? It is the original one. Right. The original pencil
Starting point is 00:03:09 that he learnt that with. Yeah, yeah, when he was writing his jokes. Yeah, and some days it goes missing and he literally runs around the house with no clothes on screaming.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Yeah. Right? And then, I think there's another room that's just packed full of props. I think they're just everywhere. All the props
Starting point is 00:03:24 that you can't get in. Yeah, I think they're just everywhere. All the props we shop. You can't get in. Yeah, I think they're just everywhere. And sometimes he likes to sort of really squeeze himself in there. It's like them programmes about hoarders. Yeah, yeah. You see, he has the crawl in between those. It's one of those, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Sometimes he goes in there and just sits in the middle of all the props in a little cubby hole he's made, sort of three foot up, just on top of a rubber duck from sitting on the duck of eBay, right? That joke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:46 My favourite one. And he just looks at all the props he can see and he just has nice memories about his show. Yeah, and that's when he comes up with new jokes as well. Yeah, exactly, yeah. So we might ask him about that later on. We don't. We don't.
Starting point is 00:03:57 We've already recorded it. Yeah. Already recorded that. Already recorded that. No diction in that whatsoever. Yeah. Already recorded it. And we recorded it whatsoever. Yeah. I already recorded it. And we recorded it also.
Starting point is 00:04:06 We talk about darts a little bit in the interview, don't we? Yeah. And we recorded it before Sid Waddell died. Did Sid Waddell die? Yeah, he died. I probably should have told you that before we recorded it. When did he die? Today, this morning.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Oh, horrible. How horrible. Yeah. That's a shame, isn't it? So, just to let you know, we weren't happily talking about darts and not bringing up a man who was very important to darts so we're just sad
Starting point is 00:04:28 to hear that today. Oh that is sad the world is a quieter place. Yeah. Significantly quieter because he was a proper shouter wasn't he?
Starting point is 00:04:34 Proper shouter. Was a proper shouter oh what a shame. Well that's brought everything down hasn't it? No I think we can bring it back. No now I feel sad
Starting point is 00:04:39 about everything. Oh. I do. I hate hearing about I don't have any emotional investment in Sid Waddell particularly. I hate hearing about, because I don't have any emotional investment in Sid Waddell particularly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:47 But I hate hearing about things like that. Yeah, when people die and that. Yeah. Yeah. They never tell you when people get born, do they?
Starting point is 00:04:53 They never go on the news and say, a pop star who's going to be a pop star in 20 years was born today. There's a very important reason for that though,
Starting point is 00:05:00 isn't it, mate? So, the element of surprise. Yeah, yeah. They don't want people knowing, do they, who's going to be a pop star because they might have to sneak up on them.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Yeah. But they do do it when celebrity babies are born because I suppose celebrity babies have more of a chance of being a pop star in the future.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Yeah. But also, sadly, more of a chance of being assassinated. Yeah. Or kidnapped for money. You never hear about a baby getting assassinated,
Starting point is 00:05:23 do you not? Very, very rare. But they do get kidnapped or there are kidnapped attempts. They do get kidnapped but no, you never hear of You never hear about a baby getting assassinated, do you not? Very, very rare. But they do get kidnapped, or there are kidnapped attempts. They do get kidnapped, but no, you never hear of like a sniper on a baby or anything like that. I plot loads of them. I sit in my room sometimes thinking, oh, I'll take so-and-so's baby. Yeah. I'll take so-and-so's baby and they will have to give me a million pounds.
Starting point is 00:05:38 What, it's a million pounds to them? Yeah. And I work out where I lied it. Yeah, just looking at your Malcolm X photo. Putting it in my Malcolm X photo in my room full of props. Yeah. Tell you what you never hear about, mate. What?
Starting point is 00:05:49 A baby killing another baby. Like a baby assassin. Like, oh, a baby was in the back of the car, right, doing a parade. Yeah. And that baby got shot and then they found another baby in its crib on the top of the building with a big gun. You're very rarely aware of that, aren't you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Very, very rarely. Tell you what you never hear about, mate. Go on. An owl killing another owl. I bet that happens. With a gun. Not with a gun, no. Not with a gun.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I bet they peck at each other. Yeah. I was in quite a bad mood when I woke up this morning. I say this morning, four minutes ago. Yeah. Well, they don't know what time this is, so we can say this is 6am. Alright, it's 6am. We got up
Starting point is 00:06:26 and we're just about to go for our jog. I've had one jog already and I'm going to do another one after this. No, because you said you got up four minutes ago. Yeah, no, because I had
Starting point is 00:06:32 a sleep shit after my jog. Right, okay. I had an horrible gig last night. I'm sorry. It's that same place again. Oh. Kicked off again. Oh.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Do you think it might be you? Possibly. Yeah. I don't think it was last night. I think it was just wasted people who've been allowed into a place that serves alcohol. Yeah. Which I couldn't understand.
Starting point is 00:06:49 And then the same security bloke came down and did the body slam the day before. There was one point I was on stage where I just went, tell you what, you don't know what this means, but I never thought I'd be hoping the security man comes down and does the same thing. Are you sure it wasn't Mick Foley? It wasn't Mick Foley.
Starting point is 00:07:04 He's a tiny little bloke, man. He's tiny. He's obviously trained in some sort of ninja arts. Okay. Kung fu, not sort of like finger painting with a mask on. No, no. Not that he can draw a really good ninja. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Ninja arts. He can do sculpture, but he sneaks in, does it really quickly and gets out without anyone noticing. Yeah. But I... And that's that joke, Dom. It was a very funny joke, very funny joke.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I said to the audience about these people being removed and that and then I said what had happened the night before with the body slam. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:34 And when the security man came down, just one bloke in the middle stood up and put his arms in the air and went, body slam! And it really made me laugh.
Starting point is 00:07:42 So I was on stage while security were in negotiating with these people who were at the front of the stage it was horrible and then I said we have an interval we're going to call another interval
Starting point is 00:07:50 it's only just been an interval so I was the middle section right and it's an interval we're going to get it sorted out I went to the back of the room just head in my hands I was like
Starting point is 00:07:58 this is ridiculous you could feel the tension in the air and the violence in the air at which point this really pretty girl came up to me called Jen pretty girl came up to me called Jen and she came up to me
Starting point is 00:08:06 and she went are you Ray Peacock and I went yeah and she went do you want to say I really like your podcast I've been really enjoying it I'm like that's such a lovely thing
Starting point is 00:08:12 to hear right in the middle of this fucking camera so Jen whoever you are thank you for that it was actually really sweet but I was just slightly distracted really was slightly distracted
Starting point is 00:08:20 and then they threw him out and then I brought the next actor and then the next actor I had to explain to the audience why it was as bad as it was. Yeah. Because they were at the front being quiet.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Right, that's the worst one, isn't it? They were quietly saying things and they were texting and they were, yeah. And so he then,
Starting point is 00:08:34 which I've got all credit to him, John Hastings he was, I've never seen him before, he was brilliant. Yeah. He told the rest of the audience why that wasn't an overreaction of what had happened.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Yeah, so, you know, I've got a night off tonight. Hey! This is a day off for me what are you going to do I'm going to edit the podcast
Starting point is 00:08:47 yeah do our show yeah but I'm going to go and have breakfast in a minute I've sent a couple of birds down to the restaurant and they're ordering
Starting point is 00:08:54 me breakfast now my breakfast is being cooked right now it's been like Pulp Fiction in a way yeah don't you just love it when you go to the bathroom
Starting point is 00:09:00 and you come back and your food's there waiting yeah and although my food when I get there will be cold because it's on the street. Yeah. So it'll be a chair outside.
Starting point is 00:09:09 You're eating it off the street like a dog, aren't you? I like a cold black pudding. Yeah. So, did you do any gigs last night? No. Okay, that's the business sorted out. So, we've got a great interview with Tim Vine today. Let's not eat into it any more than we have to.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Our show. Our show. People can gamble. Don't even want to be on telly anyway. 9.40 at the Pleasant's dum dum dum dum dum and it's selling very well
Starting point is 00:09:27 that's not even showing off that's more like going buy a ticket if just a few more of you did it then we'd be sorted here yeah I don't mean sorted in that
Starting point is 00:09:35 we'll make money because we won't oh no we'll lose money but just for our own egos if we could sell out a few more nights that'd be awesome what I mean is
Starting point is 00:09:41 if a few more of you buy tickets then we'll have the minimum debt yeah which I believe is 11 000 pounds i think it's something like that so um if you want us to only owe 11 000 pounds rather than 17 000 pounds please buy a ticket to our show that's good we're promoting it isn't it yeah it is yeah yeah not going come and do our show they're going oh yeah well you know i could get your podcast for free yeah this is free as well and you know what i'm gonna set up a up a JustGiving page. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah, I am. For the end of this podcast, and on the last day of this podcast, me and Ed are going to be the guests. Right? And it's literally going to be an hour and a half of us saying, were we worth it? How much were we worth?
Starting point is 00:10:16 Get it in there now. We'll wait now while you transfer some money. And I'll be doing, on the last day, I'll be doing my nominations for The Fringe. I'll do my own awards. Are you? And let me just, I'm not seeing my nominations for The Fringe. I'll do my own awards. Are you? And let me just, I'm not seeing a lot of shows, but let me just tell you,
Starting point is 00:10:32 I'm hearing a lot of buzz about Crunchy Blast ice creams this year. Yeah, you really are. Yeah, I think they might be in for a nomination. All right, well, there will be the official Peacock and Gumball Edinburgh podcast Edinburgh Awards. Yeah. On the last episode as well. Well, in fact, we should do the nominations a few days before, yeah, and then do the winners on the last day. Excellent. in fact we should do the nominations a few days before yeah and then do the winners on the last day
Starting point is 00:10:46 excellent they might be shows they might be ice creams they might be just things that have happened might just be us for every category yeah
Starting point is 00:10:52 who knows well look here's Tim Vine great interview yeah we'll talk to you after it bye I mean it's unbearable
Starting point is 00:11:00 the silence isn't it oh my goodness I could feel it particularly with a geography lesson with Tim today I guess it's Tim Vine hello hello how silence, isn't it? Oh, my goodness. I could feel it particularly with... It's like a geography lesson. With Tim today. I guess it's Tim Vine.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Hello. Hello, how are you? Very well, sir. How are you? Very well, yes. It's good to see you all here. Oh. We live here.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Yeah, we live here. This is our place. I had a weird thing today, because I watched Tim come up the stairs. He bolted up the stairs. Did you? No problem at all. I didn't bolt up the stairs, but I didn't stop. You didn't stop, and I offered you that as an option.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Does everyone normally stop halfway? Well, it's not that they necessarily stop, but normally when they get here You didn't stop, and I offered you that as an option. Does everyone normally stop halfway? It's not that they necessarily stop, but normally when they get here, they're ruined. Well, I was a little bit ruined. I was breathing slightly, you know. Were you hiding how tired you were? No, I thought it was quite open. Remember, I lay down. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I think not stopping is the key. I think you've just got to do it in one. But you see, I've been training for this for the last two weeks because my flat that I'm staying in has also got four flights. Has it really? Yeah, yeah. So, in fact, yours have got more than four flights actually, hasn't it? Exactly. No, yeah, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:11:51 There are more than four flights. We were told there were four floors. Rated that to mean four flights. And then complained when we got here. I honestly thought he wasn't going to come all the way up the stairs because that's not what he contractually sort of signed up to. It might be twice that. Each floor might be, you know, one way and back. So it might be eight that. Each floor might be one way and back.
Starting point is 00:12:06 So it might be eight flights. That's exactly what I said. They never said about the flights. They said there were four floors up. But they can't trick us like that. That wasn't a trick. I wasn't surprised. I'm the other way around.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I think myself, it's great. When I had this flat, I thought, this is great. This is good for my knees. Oh, what do you know? Don't you come in here defending them. I think, listen, when you come to Edinburgh, you've got to be prepared for a lot of stares. Hey, that's something to do with dying, I think, that joke.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Which was appropriately met with silence. Yeah, what happened to stares, actually? Do you know what's happened over the years with your jokes, Tim? They've got too clever. Well, that wasn't too clever. It wasn't. You should be prepared for stares. And I'll explain the joke to the listener.
Starting point is 00:12:46 What Tim meant was that the people in the audience would be staring at you. I think they got that. It was a double meaning. I didn't get it. Well, we didn't get it. You got two flights off us. Yeah. And we're comedians, Tim.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Yeah. We should have guests in it coming. Well, you did eventually. I mean, it was a step in the right direction. There we go. That's better. Just literally saying step in a sentence. Pick, hook and gamble, pick, hook and gamble.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Now, I've been around you quite a bit when you've been doing this sort of thing. This infantile joke. I haven't always seen you, have I? No, not always. Actually, I want to speak about that later on. Right. About people not being seen in conversation. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:22 That's a little teaser. That's a very specific kind of question. It is, but it's a belting thing. Or it's certainly the thing that made me laugh the most in the last 12 months, but I'll tell you later on. When you're doing this, when you're doing your jokes,
Starting point is 00:13:36 as in new jokes, things that you're thinking up on the spot, are the two conversations going on in your head? Yes. Well, I don't know, are they? What do you mean to say when I... Was that one then? But when you have a conversation with anyone...
Starting point is 00:13:48 When anyone has a conversation, you're making it up as we go along, aren't you? I know. But you're specifically finding something. So if we're talking about stairs... Yeah, but stairs and stairs. I mean, I can't claim to be the first person. My goodness me.
Starting point is 00:13:59 He found this... You know this problem? The double B. Stairs and stairs. Absolutely incredible. But that's fine but we had that
Starting point is 00:14:06 conversation then yeah stairs and stairs then we carried on talking yeah and you were still in the conversation with us but there was
Starting point is 00:14:13 another one on the way so you were obviously going stairs you were I wasn't thinking that much were you not no not that much
Starting point is 00:14:20 no I did used to have a joke in my act where I used to have a little sort of with two or three what do you call it it was a little step thing you know
Starting point is 00:14:27 like two steps H that's a good joke isn't it yeah yeah a little step H and I used to go on
Starting point is 00:14:35 and just sort of rearrange the direction of it and then I'd say that's a step in the right direction so that's what reminded me
Starting point is 00:14:41 I just think of what stairs jokes have I got so you have that one in stock I did have that one somewhere in my head but it wasn't
Starting point is 00:14:46 I didn't have to go into the I didn't have to go and meet Brenda at reception and say please can I go to the file
Starting point is 00:14:52 it's really immediate but I find it I find it both inspirational and worrying at the same time I really do just that thing
Starting point is 00:15:01 it must be exhausting for you it's not at all I don't know I think you're tuned into a different point in the conversation so you're looking at the language I really do. It must be exhausting for you. It's not at all. You're tuned into a different point in the conversation, so you're looking at the language.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I think it's to do with just the size of my back catalogue. Paul's carry-on face. But I think it's just that I've written a lot of jokes, I suppose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't... It's not, it's like if you had a thousand children, for example, and you knew them all, and someone asked you whether you had a child called Nigel, and you knew you did, you wouldn't have to spend ages thinking about that. Maybe not, but maybe if they said, and what are their names? Yes, true, I do
Starting point is 00:15:40 forget some of my jokes. Yeah. So you metaphorically forget some of your children? Well, unless you say the word Nigel and then I'll remember whether or not I had any Nigels. Do you have to use memory techniques to learn a whole show? A little bit, but I sort of learn it in clumps and just through repetition I just wander around
Starting point is 00:15:59 talking to myself before a tour. I always think, because I worry about forgetting it when I'm on stage, so I would start rehearsing some time in advance of before a tour. I always think that, because I worry about, you know, forgetting it when I'm on stage, so I would start rehearsing some time in advance of going on tour. So I just would start, like maybe once I know what my hour is, I'd maybe run through it just once a day,
Starting point is 00:16:15 but starting a month and a half before I go away. But you also get very excited, from my experience with you, the time I've spent the most with you has been at Not Going Out. Yeah. Because I do the warm-up at Not Going Out and I think you're in it, are you? You were in it. I was in it, yeah. But all The time I've spent the most with you has been at Not Going Out. Yeah. Because I do the warm-up at Not Going Out
Starting point is 00:16:25 and I think you're in it, are you? You were in it. I was in it, yeah. But all the time you were there, so far, I was there too. Yes, you were.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Why are you saying it like that? No, I'm saying... No, but he knows I'm upset about him leaving. And so he says it like that. He goes, all the time you were there, so far,
Starting point is 00:16:41 I was there. But the next time you're there, I won't be there, I won't know. I didn't say so far. I just... Did I? Or maybe I did. I you're there, I won't be there. I didn't say so far. I just, did I? Or maybe I did. I think you did. I didn't mean it like that.
Starting point is 00:16:48 This has been recorded. I don't know. It's not like your brother showed this, which goes out and that's it. Finished. This is recorded. It's in the ether. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:16:57 But yeah, you were going to say, that's the times when you were about to say something. Yeah, well, so I've seen, I've actually seen you, and I guess lots of people who've worked with you have, but I've seen you working on a joke and I've seen I've actually seen you and I guess lots of people have worked with you but I've seen you working on a joke and I've seen you
Starting point is 00:17:07 have a like we had a day filming when I was I had a very important role and we had a day then you had to come out and introduce us
Starting point is 00:17:17 as a band and what was your line please you just said it we said it before we started recording please work no no I know
Starting point is 00:17:24 that was me reminding myself oh I see right did it go well on the day i did it well i remember on the day please welcome the auditors yeah yeah let's see it for the auditors yeah there's a bit more than that i think there should have been a bit more after that so there's no accounting for taste you should have done that yeah you should have said that to me and then said just just try it and then you should have said that and done the line said tim said that was all right but that day because we me and you were on the stage and done the line and said Tim said that was alright Tim said that was alright but that day because me and you were on the stage
Starting point is 00:17:48 on the set so we were together for quite a while just hanging around yeah just hanging around but you were literally just you were working things out
Starting point is 00:17:55 well I can't remember what it was now there was something wasn't there which oh I nearly had it I nearly remembered what it was
Starting point is 00:18:01 it was something to do with can you remember it yeah absolutely stop it was playing on Stock Ait with can you remember it yeah absolutely Stop it was playing on Stock Aitken and Waterman which is you know
Starting point is 00:18:09 in 2012 an incredibly up to date referee I remember the joke go on then you say it the joke was I've never told it since because I tried it once
Starting point is 00:18:18 it was rubbish well no but I told it during the warm up and they cracked up but possibly how awful it was it was about
Starting point is 00:18:25 stock aching water well you said it as Kylie Minogue's producers yes had to get a gardener in to do their plants but he said
Starting point is 00:18:34 he couldn't do it because he had really bad arthritis or something like that and they said stop aching and water them but that was one of the
Starting point is 00:18:42 most on a long days film I know I know he did he really did but it was really interesting to watch you try all the's film I know I know he did he really did but it was really interesting to watch you try
Starting point is 00:18:46 all the different directions from it there was another time of not going out when I arrived one day and you were like a little puppy you came to me
Starting point is 00:18:52 and said I've got something to show you I've got something to show you and I went what what what and you went
Starting point is 00:18:56 come here come here your old girlfriend's through here right and I went through and it was a doctor's set and on the wall there was an x-ray
Starting point is 00:19:03 and he went that's your x-ray. It's obviously been weighing all day. Right, I only do it with people called Ray, so that's why I'm so excited. And then he said to me, I'd love to do that in my act, can you think of a famous Ray? Now, how do you imagine that made me feel?
Starting point is 00:19:20 Ray Charles. So I said to the singer of Georgia On Your Mind, is that the most famous one of his songs? Don't say it like that, just said to the singer of Georgia on your mind yeah is that the most famous one of his songs don't say it like that just commit to the joke okay
Starting point is 00:19:29 so I said to the singer of Georgia on your mind the blind chap I took I showed him this this is the difficult bit yeah because how do you say
Starting point is 00:19:40 what it is without saying the word x-ray so I showed him the you have to find a way of describing an x-ray. Okay, go for it. It's some sort of medical...
Starting point is 00:19:48 You're losing him. Medical negative picture of some of your organs. And I said, didn't you used to go out with that? At this point, people are filing out. Pickle can gamble. Pickle can gamble. So also on that day, the day of filming, you told me the funniest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:20:08 You must say that to all your guests. No, and it wasn't a joke. You were telling me something about stuff that you did at school. Right, what was this? I'm cranky. You were telling me about... This Republican something. I think it's alright. If it's not, we'll cut it. You told me that you went through a period at school of...
Starting point is 00:20:23 Hiding in a cupboard. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I went through a period at school of... Hiding in a cupboard? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I went through a period. I did it a couple of times. As far as I'm concerned, that's a period of doing it. It is slightly disturbing, I suppose, in a way. I thought it was absolutely hilarious.
Starting point is 00:20:37 It's slightly revealing. I was probably 13 at the time, and I used to hide in this cupboard, and then I'd get a mate to wait in the room there as well and when someone came in I got to say what do you think
Starting point is 00:20:48 of Tim Vine so I could listen to what they said some people I remember one person going he's in the cupboard isn't he and then they opened
Starting point is 00:21:01 the cupboard and I was there like that so that would be considered something normal for the young Tim Vines to have done? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:21:08 That wasn't... You do all sorts of things. I made up lots of games. You do lots of things at school. But for someone to say he's in the cupboard, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:21:13 It's pretty definite that that's... You were known for it by then. No, no, no. That wasn't... Someone said that. But you've got to remember we're talking about
Starting point is 00:21:20 at least 20 different people would come in and ask this question. So they might have... And the person I make is probably a very bad actor yeah um what do you think of tim vibe and then of course why are you asking me that suddenly out of the blue because i was in the room isn't it stop looking at the cover terrible actor and then of course you went on to star with him and not go now because you're well known is there is there a marked difference because you've been
Starting point is 00:21:42 coming to edinburgh since you weren't well known as well known as you are obviously but is there a marked difference? Because you've been coming to Edinburgh since you weren't a well-known majority obviously. But is there a marked difference in the pressure? Well, I'll tell you what, I think that I've never really felt the pressure. In actual fact,
Starting point is 00:21:52 I'm one of those, I don't know what you guys are like, but I'm one of those people who if there's like a reviewer and I want to be told because I know I kind of raise my game. I love it when I get told. We definitely do.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I think we're the opposite. Oh, right. I love it. I want to be told so I just personally give it the big one. Really? Generally? Personally, if something goes oh right I love it I want to be told so I'll just personally give it a big one really? genuinely?
Starting point is 00:22:07 personally if something goes wrong or I feel like I've messed something up and I know there's a reviewer in that's my entire brain just completely unwrapped
Starting point is 00:22:12 it'll crumble oh I see well I'm the other way around if something goes wrong and they say oh by the way the Times was in you go
Starting point is 00:22:18 well why didn't you tell me that? I would have given it more effort but shouldn't you do it like the Times is in every night? you should
Starting point is 00:22:24 I know that there's something that I mean I do but there's something that now't you do it like the times it's in every night you should I know that it's something and I do but there's something now do you Tim though no I am nothing but a try I know you are I know you are
Starting point is 00:22:32 so a lot of people who tour a show will start it in Edinburgh yeah so they're first they write an hour show and the first time they do it is in Edinburgh
Starting point is 00:22:43 and to be honest I've mainly not done that I've mainly when I've written a show I've then toured it in the spring and then gone to Edinburgh which actually is
Starting point is 00:22:52 a great way of just enjoying Edinburgh because by then you've done 40 dates in the spring and you just you know what the show is I must admit
Starting point is 00:23:00 I wouldn't fancy I mean last year was the first year I did my chat show up here for the whole month. And the first show was kind of alright, but the second half wasn't as good as the first half. And I didn't have much of a night's sleep. I remember thinking to myself, oh crikey, I've just booked 27 shows of this.
Starting point is 00:23:18 You know, you sort of, however your first show goes, you multiply it by 27 in your head. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course you do, of course you do. We're doing a tour straight after Edinburgh, we've done it the wrong way round. It's not the wrong way round, but I would say it's a more pressured thing because of reviewers, isn't it? I don't think we can change it now. It's too late. No, but I mean, is it something where you sort of think about, you must think about the beginning of the festival. It's not like you're turning up and you know exactly what the show is.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Yeah, yeah. I mean, we preview quite a lot, but I think there's also an element of it where you go, well, you want to launch it at Edinburgh. Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean, yeah. There's that thing as well. But I, I mean, I guess, sorry, just so you know, I might do some streaming.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Just outside the window? Just whilst we're doing this interview, I might do some streaming. No one can hear that. So if anyone can hear it, though, if you can hear that noise, I'm just doing some streaming. one can hear that so if anyone can hear it though if you can hear that noise I'm just doing some streaming
Starting point is 00:24:05 stream Vine stream Vine yeah that's a tribute to our guest today I don't know I can see it I can think I
Starting point is 00:24:13 can see it from both sides no I think I probably can as well which is I was aware last year that that was quite a
Starting point is 00:24:19 I got a bit of a flap on that first night because I thought oh god I've got to do a show 25 times yeah
Starting point is 00:24:24 but there's also the element of if you come to Edinburgh and bomb and you've of a flap on that first night because I thought oh god I can't believe I've got to do this show 25 times. Yeah yeah. But there's also the element of if you come to Edinburgh and bomb and you've got a national tour booked for that same show straight afterwards it's like that's
Starting point is 00:24:33 both ways actually. That's not what's happening to us by the way. No we are doing fine thank you. There's no bombing in here. Yeah yeah absolutely
Starting point is 00:24:38 no bombing in here Tim so don't come around trying to get some bombing. Peacock and Gamble Peacock and Gamble Edinburgh when I think of Tim why don't I think of Edinburgh it must bumming Peacock and Gamble Peacock and Gamble Edinburgh when I think of Tim Vine
Starting point is 00:24:46 I think of Edinburgh it must be quite annoying for you this because it gets brought up quite a lot the thing I remember the most is your big poster oh yes
Starting point is 00:24:53 in 2006 yeah what happened is Tim didn't even come to Edinburgh but decided to take up all the advertising space and it was an incredible thing it was a real surprise
Starting point is 00:25:03 to everyone and everyone was like have you seen the thing and comics would speak was like, have you seen the thing? And comics would speak about it going, have you seen the Tim Vine poster? And you'd go, no, what is it? And you'd go, I'm not telling you. Go and have a look. Go and have a look.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Go and have a look. And it was on the... It was after the Cowgate was burned down, wasn't it? It was that... Oh, yeah, sometime after that. It was 2006, yeah. But funnily enough, where it was, that hoarding, that building's knocked down this year, isn't it? Yeah, it's all completely gone, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And you had a great big poster there saying Tim Vine will not be appearing at the Fr down this year isn't it yeah and you had a great big poster there saying Tim Vine will not be appearing at the Fringe this year is that right yeah
Starting point is 00:25:29 what was nice about it as well is as you walked down and sort of ran the corner you only saw your face and Tim Vine
Starting point is 00:25:35 yes people told me that yeah and that was obviously completely fortuitous but yeah well you say fortuitous but for your fans
Starting point is 00:25:41 that would have been heartbreaking so really what you've done there is you've done a big two fingered but for your fans that would have been heartbreaking so really what you've done there is you've done a big two fingered salute to your fans
Starting point is 00:25:48 I had a couple of people say that to me they thought oh great oh cheers if you think
Starting point is 00:25:57 about it the other way maybe some people who don't like me like some of the people who slagged you off
Starting point is 00:26:01 when you were in the cupboard they were there who said they slagged me off when I was in the cupboard odds are if there were 20 people surely I can't remember of the people who slagged you off when you were in the cupboard. They were there. Who said they slagged me off when I was in the cupboard? I never said that.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Well, odds are, if there were 20 people, surely if you were... I can't remember. I blank out the bad reviews. Even at that age. All I remember is the guy who opened the door
Starting point is 00:26:16 and said he's in the cupboard. That's the only one I remember. What was the thought process behind that? Was it literally to... Because a lot of Edinburgh, from a boring industry point of view, is having a presence. So you had a presence in Edinburgh from a boring industry point of view is having a
Starting point is 00:26:25 presence so you had a presence in Edinburgh well I'll tell you exactly what it was it wasn't there wasn't even that much thought
Starting point is 00:26:30 into it actually to be honest it was the year before I'd done a show out there and that particular hoarding
Starting point is 00:26:37 which is absolutely vast isn't it it was about the length of a bus or something was Omid Jalili had that hoarding and he was being brought
Starting point is 00:26:45 by the same promoter as me. And I said to Nigel, who was the promoter, I said, look at the size of that poster. It's absolutely enormous. Can I get that for next year? Right.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And he goes, I can bag it for you if you want. I said, you're all right, I'll put you on a list. So he kind of bagged it for me and then I wasn't going to go up because I didn't have a show
Starting point is 00:27:05 and so then I said well then we went through thinking one of the things I was going to do was rather than just a straightforward thing
Starting point is 00:27:12 of he's not here I was going to do it was going to be a slight Mickey take of Al Murray it was going to be the pun landlord nice
Starting point is 00:27:19 Tim Gentleman please nice and a white vine for the ladies and then say he's not appearing and then it was too much information going on and so he said Tim, gentlemen, please. Nice. And a white vine for the ladies. And then say, it's not appearing. And then it would seem too much information going on.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And so you say, why don't you just say, I'm not there, you know. It was just a massive picture of you saying you're not her. It really was. But it was almost as well, there was something
Starting point is 00:27:37 vaguely intimidating about it because it was... Oh dear, really? Yeah, there was no Tim, but he was lording it. He was over it. You were all showing the dark side to him. You were looking over us.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And you're going, ah. Like a malevolent spirit. And also, you also have a different sort of presence for me when I see you in Edinburgh nowadays. Because I know where to find you at any given point. By the dartboard. If you're not doing your show, you're by the dartboard. Not always, but I do like it in the dark.
Starting point is 00:28:04 But not always, because you sulk off when I beat you. If you're not doing your show, you buy the dartboard. Not always, but I do like a game of darts. But not always because you sulk off when I beat you. Did you? No, you sulked. The other night, that happened. I beat you two games running. Now did it, you came back from the dartboard looking pleased with yourself, saying you just beat Tim Vine at darts, and I'm not sure that's true. Did you?
Starting point is 00:28:17 Because I beat Tim Vine at darts for two games running. Right, you're doing your thing. You certainly didn't beat me two games running. Three games running. No, I know. It's all You certainly didn't beat two games running. Three games running. No, I know, it's all nonsense. It was a tournament. You didn't beat him once, mate. It went close.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Because you've had a thousand games since. Well, I haven't played... Never have I. I'll tell you who I play a lot up there. When I was doing, a couple of years ago, when I was doing a show, because my show's on in the afternoon, which makes it a bit harder to play in the afternoon,
Starting point is 00:28:44 obviously, because I'm getting ready for that. But when I was doing an evening show, I used to play with John Robbins. Do you know the guy, John Robbins? Yeah, yeah. He's very good, and he still has the highest outshot in that room, as far as I'm aware.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Which is what? Which is 157. Nice. Double 20, double 19, double top. I remember doing 172. What, in three darts? That actually should be written down as impossible. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:29:07 I'm not counting the last dart. But, and then also we played a guy called John Plews who was Jim Bowen's
Starting point is 00:29:16 manager and I used to play him a lot when Jim Bowen was doing his show up here. Okay, is darts,
Starting point is 00:29:22 when you're coming up to Edinburgh are you thinking about the darts or the show? When I come up to Edinburgh Could you say to me I brought my Is darts, when you're coming up to Edinburgh, are you thinking about the darts or the show? When I come up to Edinburgh... Because you said to me, I brought my own darts.
Starting point is 00:29:28 You look pretty focused on the darts the other night. Yeah. I love darts. I play quite a lot at home. In fact, it's slightly annoying that I haven't got a board in my flat. Yesterday, I put some,
Starting point is 00:29:39 I know this sounds like Mr. Bloke living on his own, I put a little pan of ravioli on. And as soon as I did that at home I do that and immediately I just switch it start it off and then I go straight
Starting point is 00:29:50 to the dartboard and I turn to get and there's nothing there and I realise I had this it was like a muscle memory thing and I just turned to go and throw some darts so at home
Starting point is 00:29:56 whenever you put the ravioli on you always turn again to darts I just because it's quite near the kitchen where my dartboard is if I've just stuck something on that can be left for a couple of minutes I'll have a leg or two I've just stuck something on that can be lit for a couple of minutes,
Starting point is 00:30:05 I'll have a leg or two. I've just got this image of you sat in a flat by yourself eating a pan of ravioli with a dart. At home in real life, you have a dartboard at home. Yes. In fact, I'll tell you what I've got at home. This is very exciting. I'm going to say now, because you can't see Tim,
Starting point is 00:30:20 his face has literally lit up. This showing off that he's going to do now. Right. It's called the Pro Eclipse Trainer. Right. And it's a dartboard where all the trebles and doubles are 30% smaller. Okay. So they are tiny.
Starting point is 00:30:34 It's all really tiny. Yeah. And I found a great dart shop, incidentally, in Edinburgh called Borlands, which is down near Leith somewhere. And I went to that. Is there such a thing as a dart shop well there is isn't there I mean they do
Starting point is 00:30:46 key cutting as well as a hand but they had lots of you know lots of flights and stuff because I was finding it hard to find you go to John Lewis
Starting point is 00:30:54 now and they don't in their sports department they don't sell darts but it's not a sport well it certainly is it's not it's not only that
Starting point is 00:31:01 they used to have sets of well they probably have snooker stuff there don't they it's not a sport let's thrash this out snooker's not only that. They used to have sets of... Well, they probably have snooker stuff there, don't they? It's not a sport. Let's thrash this out. Snooker's not a sport either.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Mate, we've established this. It's not a sport. They're both sports because they take dexterity and they take... Yeah, and then the definition of sport. And my counter argument to that every time is then Angry Birds is a sport. If darts is a sport, Angry Birds is a sport. I'm not saying it's not fun. I'm not saying you can't do it.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I enjoy it. There must be some things that are in'm not saying you can't do it. I enjoy it. There must be some things that are in the Olympics that you don't think should be there. Absolutely. We've had this discussion on the podcast already. We're trying to get Angry Birds into the... So what do you think? Shooting shouldn't be there, for example.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Shooting shouldn't be in anywhere. Shooting shouldn't be allowed at all. Actually, I tend to agree with you. I don't like guns. It's horrible. It should be gone. It's horrible. What about archery?
Starting point is 00:31:40 That was the one that I said. Absolutely not. Really? It's Angry Birds Live. That's all it is. Oh, it certainly is. I'll tell you what. When you watch that... Did you watch any of that? I'm telling you. Really? It's Angry Birds Live that's all it is. Oh it certainly is. I'll tell you what when you watch that
Starting point is 00:31:47 did you watch any of that I'm telling you? No, I hate it. Can I tell you why it's so amazing? No, we don't like Olympics. I'm going to tell you. No, I'm not listening.
Starting point is 00:31:53 You don't like the Olympics? I hate it. I've been crying every morning at the heats. You'd be crying anyway because you haven't got a dartboard right in your mouth. What about the boxing?
Starting point is 00:32:01 Women's boxing you must have seen that yesterday. I hate boxing as well I don't like boxing I hate that thing. That girl Nicola Adams unbelievable. Oh yeah. what about the boxing women's boxing you must have seen that I hate boxing as well I don't like boxing that girl Nicola Adams unbelievable
Starting point is 00:32:06 oh yeah it's that oh my view of your avioli watching the women's mackinac and these are highlights goodness meet him
Starting point is 00:32:17 boy but I bet if you did archery for half an hour having not done it you'd realise it was using muscles
Starting point is 00:32:24 but then I also think alright then I will allow the archery for half an hour having not done it, you'd realise it was using muscles. But then I also think, all right, then I will allow the archery in my Olympics if they do a run-up. A run-up? If they do a run-up before they fire it. It makes it harder as well. If they've got a run-up, fire it as they're running. It is true that the difference in physical effort
Starting point is 00:32:43 in some of the sports is enormous. I was watching the open swimming yesterday where they have to swim 10 kilometres.
Starting point is 00:32:50 The women's. Here he is. It was actually but you knew so you asked me what she did as well. And it was
Starting point is 00:32:56 like 10 kilometres of just this brutal swim through the Solent or wherever it was. And compare that to archery.
Starting point is 00:33:03 It's not quite the same is it? No. These people aren't going to the edge of consciousness. Exactly. But you can't have that argument edge going if it's something that not many people can do.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Otherwise you could have one of them wires, couldn't you? With a loop round it that buzzes if you touch it. If you make that super, super hard. It's super hard as it is. Only a few people can do it. Rubik's Cube, there you go. Olympic Rubik's Cube. What about the cube?
Starting point is 00:33:22 Just put the cube in. I once won a teddy bear the size of a mini from doing that thing with a wire thing. It was an enormous teddy bear. But not only that. How did this happen? Is that what you're taking it home in? Yeah. But there's a guy that I tour with, John Archer. Do you know John? Yeah, I do know John, yeah. He's great, John. Yes, very good, yeah. Comedy magician and also my best mate probably but probably
Starting point is 00:33:47 because I don't want to upset any other mates yeah yeah yeah but who may be hiding in cupboards as we speak can you imagine but he
Starting point is 00:33:56 oh I forgot about what were we talking about I don't know I'm just doing my streaming you won a big teddy bear yeah yeah but he won it first right
Starting point is 00:34:03 there was only like two of these giant teddy bears there. He won it. And I was so like, I wanted to win it, that I spent 25 quid trying to win this thing and eventually won the other giant teddy bear. Where was this? It was actually in Butland.
Starting point is 00:34:13 In Butland? Were you performing there? Yeah. I love that you perform everywhere. Well, this was a little while ago. No, but you still do. You do. You do panto and stuff as well, don't you?
Starting point is 00:34:21 Yeah, I do panto this year, yeah. Where are you at this year? Richmond Theatre. Because you were, I remember chatting, the last series are not going out, and you had been moaning the fact that you've not done Panto for a bit. Well, that may have been because I think the last two series are not going out have been around that sort of time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:36 They have been, yeah, Christmas, yeah, both. Two years running, December, and it is this year as well. Is it? Yeah. Oh, right. But you're doing it. I'm sure about that. I've got the dates in mind.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Oh, okay. And you're doing it as well You're doing it as well I'm going to get my phone I'm going to ring Liam and tell him that we've got him here Now you're in our show this year This is it isn't it?
Starting point is 00:34:55 No but you're in our actual show our double act show Am I? Yeah There's a picture of you in our show Is that right? Yeah there genuinely is Although your face
Starting point is 00:35:02 Uh oh Your face is obliterated in the picture Right Not obliterated sounds wrong That sounds like we've done some horrible sort of wartime mock-up. We just shot it out. No, I think, is it my face or your face that's over it? It might be your face. I think it's mine. It's a picture of my face over it. It's you jumping along the balls on Total Wipeout. Oh, yeah. It's that majestic picture of you. I love that picture. And that's in our show.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Did you enjoy that? Absolutely loved it. Is that a sport? Well, it's very scary. Is it difficult? Well, they don't let you do it once. You don't get to practice. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Because they're worried that if you, particularly with those red balls, they think that you might do a practice and discover what a horrific experience it is. When they film it, you might be a bit sheepish and gingerly step across. So that is the point at which you say to yourself, OK, let's just go for this, see what happens. Because they tell you when you do the Red Bulls, when you do this, there will be what's known as an uncontrolled fall.
Starting point is 00:35:57 We're all gathered round being shown it. If you hit the water and you're in trouble and you want to come out, just drag your finger across your neck and the divers will rescue you. What, is that saying like I'm dying? And then they said, but if you're really, really hurt, just give it 10 seconds before you drag your finger across your neck because remember, once you do that, that's the end. So in other words, imagine if you're really badly winded or whatever, the most natural
Starting point is 00:36:19 thing to do is get the diver, but you should just wait for a second. But if it's an uncontrolled fall, you can't help it if you do it anyway. If it's all uncontrolled, you might can't help it if you do it anyway. If it's all uncontrolled, you might do that without even meaning to do it. Or in mid-air, you might do it like that. Yeah, straight away. And they catch you at the bottom. I should have just jumped doing that.
Starting point is 00:36:32 That should be the best thing I could do. Stand in front of it. Just go like that and then jump. It's an amazing picture. I remember I was looking for a picture of the turtle wipeout balls. That's what I was searching for. And then I saw that picture
Starting point is 00:36:44 and I took it and had it on the slides and I thought that really looks like Tim it really looks like Tim Vine and then I called someone through
Starting point is 00:36:51 and I went do you think that's Tim and she was like I think it really looks like Tim and then we searched Tim Vine turtle wipeout and then it just came up
Starting point is 00:36:57 over and over and over again and it's majestic I'm going to have to look at it I haven't even got it it's marvellous I'll show you after we record it
Starting point is 00:37:03 I'll show you on there we've got a dartboard on our set We have as well We really have If one night you wanted to just because you just want to stroll in and just throw a dart on the board and then walk out again
Starting point is 00:37:12 What time are you on? We're on at 9.40 9.40 to 10.40 That'd be quite good A little cameo Just walk on One dart Off you go
Starting point is 00:37:18 We'll just stand there like we've got no idea what just happened What you could do is you could take bets throughout the show as to what dart will Tim Vine throw,
Starting point is 00:37:25 what number will he throw until you just, and you have a whole little sort of sweepstake thing. Yeah, absolutely. And you're not going to throw one dart and walk out. Right, well,
Starting point is 00:37:33 we'll definitely do that one night. Because last year, I tried to get you to come to our show last year, not because I thought you'd like it, not because I thought there'd be anything in it for you,
Starting point is 00:37:42 it was just that I... I wasn't here, was I, last year? Oh, you were? Yeah, you were, yeah. Do you remember? By the dartboard. By it for you. It was just that I... I wasn't here, was I, last year? Oh, you wasn't, were you? Yeah, you were, yeah. Do you remember? By the dartboard. By the dartboard.
Starting point is 00:37:48 It was literally that, to get you away from the dartboard. And also because I saw you every day, and I was like, well, we are pals a bit. Yes. What time was your last year? You were on duty, 10.50. 10.50. You were always in there on the dartboard. There were times when I left you.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Oh, I remember that. There were times when I left you at the dartboard. Are you in the same sort of... You're not in the same place, are you? We're across the, Oh, I remember that. I left you at the dartboard. Are you in the same sort of, you're not in the same place? We're across the Leighton Dome, so we're in the same, we're in the dome. No, I do remember
Starting point is 00:38:10 those conversations we had last year where we'd sort of pass and you'd go, well, you know, come in. So this year, genuinely, and again,
Starting point is 00:38:16 it's not about even wanting you to see the show. It's now a matter of principle. Right? So this year, genuinely, when we were designing
Starting point is 00:38:24 our set, because we've got a full set this year, when we were designing our set because we've got a full set this year when we were designing that the first thing I said to have on that set was a dartboard I said let's put a dartboard
Starting point is 00:38:31 on the set it's a coaxed to mining it's a coaxed to mining you'd probably get Liam as well if you tell him it's a dartboard why is Liam big on darts and all
Starting point is 00:38:37 oh he's massively into darts yeah he's that sort of northern isn't he he is isn't he I mean I'm a different sort I'm more a rugby league northern but Lee is that sort of you're more like fighting in that yeah I'm a rugby league northern but Lee is that
Starting point is 00:38:45 sort of you're more like fighting in that yeah I'm a rugby league's a bit don't hang on I won't even
Starting point is 00:38:50 rugby league's a bit of alright are you a union man I don't really like rugby I know I sound like I should
Starting point is 00:38:59 like rugby I had to play it at school what position did you play I played second row but no one ever asked me if
Starting point is 00:39:04 I wanted to do that no I would have rather not had this constant sort of you know stick your head between two people and have your ears massaged off
Starting point is 00:39:10 Well if you control the ball better it wouldn't be knock-ons and there wouldn't be scrums would it? Well then that's not about me is it? Get your team to
Starting point is 00:39:15 control the ball better and then you won't ask you to go through a scrum I mean the three sports that I did at school Yeah Hiding in cupboards
Starting point is 00:39:22 Yeah The three sports at school all of which I have no interest in at the time and still have no interest in. Which is rugby, cricket and hockey. We never did football at school. Why did you not do football?
Starting point is 00:39:33 Maybe it was a public school thing. I didn't go to university. Straight after that I thought, I'm going to work in a shop. How quick after that were you a comic? A little while actually. I left school when I was 18, and I probably, oh, now you're asking, 93, August 93 was when I sort of did this, started doing this professionally. Before that, maybe a year and a half before that, so maybe I was 24, 25 or something on my first attempts at this.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yeah, yeah. And I remember, and I was working in an office in Croydon, and when I left, I'd been doing'd been doing gigs and stuff and open spots and what have you and I kind of had the chance to support Boothby Graffa on a network tour for Adelaide and it was like
Starting point is 00:40:11 30 gigs so I thought well I can't have this job anymore I'm going to go for it with this comedy thing and there was a guy who was the security
Starting point is 00:40:18 guy at the building there called Fred and he'd hardly said all that much to me throughout my career but when I left he sort of shook hands with me and said he knew I was going off to be a comedian and he just said said all that much to me throughout my career there. When I left, he sort of shook hands with me
Starting point is 00:40:25 and said he knew I was going off to be a comedian. And he just said to me, give him hell, Tim. Nice, nice. And you have ever since? And I have ever since. You have? If any comedian has give him hell,
Starting point is 00:40:36 it is Tim Vine. Give him hell. I've got one more thing to talk to you about. Yes. I think you should be Doctor Who. I'd be brilliant. Is that because you think I look a bit like Thingy? Peter Davidson.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Yeah. I do look a bit like Peter Davidson. Yeah, that's why you said it, isn't it? It's not at all. Genuinely, it's not. I'm not a fan of Doctor Who at all. I have once or twice had someone say to me... You'd be a great Doctor Who.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I think you would be a brilliant doctor quite genuinely when I'm abroad yeah well I used to go out with this girl from New Zealand and she worked in
Starting point is 00:41:11 Korea for a bit as a teacher and I went out to Korea a couple of times and out there everyone kept saying Nicolas Cage now I can't really see that
Starting point is 00:41:19 but out there I can see it I have more hair then I probably look more like him more like him exactly I guess if the role requires it but I don't know who wears one in real life who knows I can see it I have more hair then I probably look more like him now more like him now does he wear a wig? I guess if the role
Starting point is 00:41:26 requires it but I don't know if he wears one in real life who knows Mrs Cage I would imagine you can't hide it from someone you live with his wig maker
Starting point is 00:41:33 his wig maker would know definitely I have tried to do a joke with that as a punchline but where you have a sort of you know this is it now watch it
Starting point is 00:41:40 let's watch it work I'm more like a Cage there's no pants in there Nicholas Cage so how would you tell that joke? Let's work it out. I just would have the prop. You're not allowed a prop for this one
Starting point is 00:41:50 because this is going to be on the radio. Oh, I see. It's on radio. So tell that joke. I want to learn from him. Yeah. I saw this budgie not wearing any pants.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Nicolas Cage. What's that got to do with Nicolas Cage? You're right. What's a film star got in common with Nicolas Cage? You're right. What's a film star got in common with a budgie not wearing any pants? What film star is a budgie not wearing any pants? No, but that doesn't really explain that he's a cage. No, it doesn't. No, no, Tim.
Starting point is 00:42:19 No, that was me pretend mocking you. Nicolas Cage fighting. That's another joke there. How about you? That one's got more potential, hasn't it? Nicolas Cage fighting. Nicholas Cage fighting. There's another joke there. I've actually just That one's got more potential. Is it? Nicholas Cage fighting. I'm just having a weird moment of epiphany,
Starting point is 00:42:31 is that the word? Yeah. Where I've just thought Tim Vine's act is catchphrase with words. At times. And also, there's a lot of rhyming.
Starting point is 00:42:39 There is a lot of rhyming as well. Yeah. Like I do one at the moment where I say, I saw this bloke blow drying someone's hair with a woodwind instrument it was Vidal Bassoon
Starting point is 00:42:46 it's just rhyming and every now and again not so much anymore but every now and again you'll just stop the show for half an hour while you try and chuck a pen behind your ear
Starting point is 00:42:56 I haven't done that for a little bit well you say you've done it for a little bit but you did it the other day when I met you in the street the other day you sat down
Starting point is 00:43:03 it was the coolest thing I've ever done and you literally sat down next to me because you were trying to creep up on me. And people try and do that. It happened several times in my life. Mark Iden, a producer, the guy who produces Russell House Good News, tried to do it the other day. Tried to creep up on me. And as he got right near me, I went, why are you doing?
Starting point is 00:43:18 And it really scared him. I see what's going on. So they tried to creep up on me. You've got great peripherals. Yeah, I've got brilliant peripherals. Thank you very much. And Tim Vine tried to creep up on me. And I just looked right at him. I see what's going on. So they tried to creep up on me. You've got great peripherals. Yeah, I've got brilliant peripherals. Thank you very much. And Tim Vine tried to creep up on me and I just looked right at him and he turned around to look for somewhere to hide and he was just in space.
Starting point is 00:43:35 No cover, no cover. Yeah, no clue. It wasn't me, wasn't me. But then you sat down next to me and you literally just chucked a pen behind your ear the first time. Did I? Ultra cool. But then you ruined it.
Starting point is 00:43:44 By looking on? No it by looking absolutely amazed that you did it. Look, did you see what I did? Whoa! So is that not something that you can do first time every time? Not every time, no. There's a pen. I think the pen doesn't lend itself to it.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Well. Again. You're nearly there with it. Not an amazing thing for a podcast. I've got the strainer down for this. Hang on. The other thing I do is I... I don't know why I brought it up.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I didn't get that one right. It matters. Right, I'll commentate. You've done something to this. The fifth annual Pen Behind the Ear competition. Tim Vine in the ring now. He's trying it. This is the new sport.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Sport at the Olympics along with darts and angry birds. Don't look away. No, I'm not. I'm not. Peacock and Gamble. Peacock and Gamble. Still going with it. Still going.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Oh, no. Watch this. I'll watch it here. You come and watch. Let's try it. Oh. The thing is you bent that bit of metal up. Watch this. I'll watch it here. You can watch. Let's try it. Oh! The thing is you bent that bit of metal up. I've not bent it.
Starting point is 00:44:47 I've bent it back again. I don't care what happens how we're doing this. Pick, hook and gamble. Pick, hook and gamble. Has it got to be that exact one or can we do it with another one? It's there. It's just there. I'm not, sometimes I'm not staying.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Hang on. Yes! Yes! He's done it. He's done it. He's done it. He's done it. He's done it.
Starting point is 00:45:03 He's done it. He's done it. He's done it. He's, it's just there, not somewhere it's not staying, hang on. Yes, yes, he's done it, he's done it, he's done it. Oh. So there we go, I mean that, I'm gonna literally leave all of that in. Yep. I might chop everything else.
Starting point is 00:45:16 And I might say Tim Vine came around our flat the other day, tried to chuck a pembe in his ear, then left. And then he didn't do it. I didn't think you'd ever do that, because I thought that would be too slippy or something it always goes through
Starting point is 00:45:26 my mind that I might not do it is it a bit of a panic on stage I've never had a full on panic on stage I normally panic about other things
Starting point is 00:45:33 on stage but in fact that is one of the least panicky things because I say to myself do you know what I will always carry on until I do it
Starting point is 00:45:40 so once you know that then there's no pressure on me what's the longest it's ever taken I remember doing Melbourne Comedy Festival once when
Starting point is 00:45:48 I wasn't really having a very good show anyway so I didn't think they were really buying into any of that and when I started doing Pen By In The Ear they weren't all that
Starting point is 00:45:55 interested in that either do you know what I wanted to talk about as well I have your DVDs all of them four I don't think I've got
Starting point is 00:46:04 all of them you must tell me which one you don't have why what were you doing I I wanted to talk about as well? I have your DVDs. All of them? Four. I don't think I've got all of them. Oh, you must tell me which one you don't have. Why, what were you doing? Forced you to have it. You weren't meant to have it, were you? But on your DVDs, so you get the brilliant stand-up show already, you get a commentary nowadays,
Starting point is 00:46:17 which is hilarious. You certainly have Easter eggs, because there's... I've never had any Easter eggs on it. You have, because... Well, I would argue this. I would argue that in your stand up show in your last DVD
Starting point is 00:46:27 there were Easter eggs in the stand up show did you see what me in the audience yeah did you see it yeah absolutely yeah but I only saw the last one
Starting point is 00:46:33 you told me there were three and then I re-watched it and saw that there were other ones as well so are you alright giving that away though yeah yeah I mean it's funny
Starting point is 00:46:41 because I've seen it on YouTube where someone it's amazing he's sitting in the audience of his own DVD. And then someone said, yeah, but it's not just that one. It's two other points as well.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Is it? That's lovely. But there's also, as extras, there are films that you've made. Yeah. Which I consider to be, in terms of the popular conception of you, un-Tim Vine. Some of them. Yes, I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:47:08 And I think they're brilliant. I really, really like them. I don't know if I genuinely do. They're really, they're kind of odd. A bit odd, yeah. Yeah, but really watchable. Oh, good. Imagine, they're quite short.
Starting point is 00:47:18 They are, yeah, they are. Really watchable. Particularly if you fast forward. But no, those are... Jack the Skip. That's a great way of watching it. Yeah, but they really impress me. particularly if you fast forward. But no, those... Jack to skip. That's a great way of watching it. Yeah, but they really impress me. I told you about this.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I told you about it when I watched them because they surprised me. And I'm just... It was very kind of you. Yeah. So... I've got lots of ideas for films and things. I never lent you my...
Starting point is 00:47:39 I say lent you. I never gave you the DVD of my feature length... Look at this. I'll lend you my DVD. I did a feature length film really? I mean it's almost unwatchable
Starting point is 00:47:48 like one of those ones? it's I thought to myself I wanted to I wanted to get you know I wanted to do something that was
Starting point is 00:47:54 an hour and 20 minutes minimum was what I set my target and then I also decided I wanted to be an airline pilot so that was kind of
Starting point is 00:48:02 the way I started it and it was and kissing five girls and I've got a really nice dog and brilliant trainers
Starting point is 00:48:11 I've got brilliant trainers in it that's a good way of doing it isn't it but I yeah it's called
Starting point is 00:48:17 Library Altitude Zero and basically it's never been released anywhere I've just got to make a lot of these
Starting point is 00:48:24 I've made 500 of these I've made loads of films in his loft I've made feature length films that are all in the loft I'll lend you one I'll lend you one
Starting point is 00:48:34 there's no swearing in there's no you don't have any swearing full stop do you well I swear in normal life I've never heard you swear if I stub my toe you may not seem frustrated
Starting point is 00:48:42 I've heard you say flip a lot oh flip flip in hell. Flip off. I flipped a girl last night. I flipped a girl that I loved. I've not.
Starting point is 00:48:59 It's not a criticism at all in any way. I don't think it was. No, I wasn't thinking it was. No, I just, my act is kind of silly so it just wouldn't fit for that but I certainly I'm not someone who
Starting point is 00:49:07 you're not a prude I'm certainly not a prude I swear when I get frustrated like anyone else what things do you say
Starting point is 00:49:13 what I really frustrated what things I once said flipping flamers yeah what happened then I'd actually
Starting point is 00:49:21 flip a flamer you were working at Burger King and somebody said Tim what are you doing Tim Vine Tim Vine lovely Tim Vine
Starting point is 00:49:34 lovely Tim Vine I think he's one of the nicest men in comedy with the tomatoes all down his arms Tim Vine right
Starting point is 00:49:40 yeah Tomato Vine not probably up to the strength of his Tomato Vine no but no but I feel like. Yeah, Tomato Vine. Not probably up to the strength of his... Tomato Vine. No, but I feel like I've been... Tomato Vine. What's his middle name?
Starting point is 00:49:50 Arto? Arto. I feel like I've been inspired by him to write jokes. Oh, brilliant. You got any? Yeah, got a few. Yeah. Don't do them now, mate.
Starting point is 00:49:58 No, I don't want to give them away, really. That might lead to something else. Okay, he's holding up a lead. This might be a new style. Hey. Tired and half-assed puns. Hey, look. Calm yourself down.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Tempe, tempe. Right, that's a tempe he's got there. This doesn't really work on a podcast, mate. Well, did you like the interview? I loved it. I did as well. We just need to promote our show now and then go home. All right.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Well, no, we don't go home yet. We're not halfway through. Go for my breakfast. I've still not been for my breakfast yet. Actually, this is the halfway mark. All right. Alright. Well no we don't go home yet and we're not halfway through. Go for my breakfast. I've still not been for my breakfast yet. Actually this is the halfway mark. Alright congratulations.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Well done mate. Well done mate. Peacock and Gamble don't even want to be on telly anyway. 9.40 Pleasant Stone don't please come to it. It's selling out.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Nearly selling out. Nearly selling out. It relies on you. Nearly. We love you so much. Here's Tim with the credits. The Peacock and Gamble Edinburgh podcast is a ready production hosted by Chortle.co.uk.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Have you seen my new Ventriloquist website? It's on gobbly, gobbly, gobbly, go. Today's guest was Tim Vine, and my show is The Tim Vine Chat Show, all music by Thomas Funderay Thomas Funderay Thomas
Starting point is 00:51:08 Funderay see you tomorrow bye what time does your show end up 3.45 whereabouts it's sold out
Starting point is 00:51:14 that's it

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