The Royals of Malibu - LATTES WITH LUCY E1 - A New Special TROM Advice Show

Episode Date: August 5, 2024

Welcome to Lattes with Lucy, a special bonus series of The Royals of Malibu hosted by Stephanie Sherry (Lucy in The Royals of Malibu). This show is different because we want to hear from you! Let us b...e the Lucy to your Ella Sinclair - and write to us your questions on life. Let us know what you’re going through, nothing is too big or too small, too scandalous or too cringe - whatever you may be going through, we want to hear it. You can write/upload your questions at emeraldaudio.co/latteswithlucy for a chance to be featured in the show  • Follow [The Royals of Malibu on Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/theroyalsofmalibu/) • Follow [Stephanie Sherry on Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/itsstephsherry/?hl=en) • Follow [Emerald Audio on Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/emeraldaudionetwork/?hl=en) • Follow [The Royals of Malibu on TikTok](https://www.tiktok.com/@theroyalsofmalibu) • Explore more: [diversionaudio.com](https://diversionaudio.com) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:15 My name is Stephanie Sherry, and as you may or may not know, I play Lucy. But bonus points, by the way, to anyone who can list the other characters I play because there are secretly several. In fact, Traum is listening. Shout out to anyone who can DM the Royals of Malibu Instagram account listing every single character that I play, but I digress. So okay, here's the thing, Traum fam. I adore Lucy, and I think we can all agree that she is an absolute icon.
Starting point is 00:01:45 She is a legend in the Trombe universe, but I cannot actually podcast as Lucy. I know, sad, just we'll be okay. We're going to get through this, but you know, being sued is not really on my bingo card for 2024, but you know what is getting to know all of you, the Trombe fam we know and love, but you know what is getting to know all of you, the Trom fam we know and love. But you know what? It's okay. The reality is me and Lucy are not so different. We're both loud and compassionate and opinionated and have East Coast accents
Starting point is 00:02:17 that like you can't quite place. We both love a great latte, love some good old fashioned girl talk, and love therapy time. I love to just make the trials and tribulations of life just a little bit easier. So welcome, Tram fans. This is your time to shine. This is your chance to get advice on anything and everything you're struggling with in your life, just like Ella gets to do with Lucy every week at the Treasure Cafe. So what's going on? You know, give us the goss.
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Starting point is 00:03:18 Um, anyway. I love it. Whatever you're feeling, just sit back, relax, grab a latte, and join us. It's time for Lattes with Lucy, also known as me, Stephanie Sherry. Okay, without further ado, let's go. Emma DeMuth. Am I saying that right, Emma? Emma DeMuth, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Fuck me. I actually don't know. Like I kind of like just change it up depending on my season in life. I understand. I have a lot of... Yeah, I have friends like that with names where they're like, is it? We don't know. Like my dad says it one way, my mom says it one way, like I say it one way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Middle school I decided to capitalize the M because I thought it looked more sophisticated. When I was younger, it wasn't capitalized. And then my family started doing that too. So I kind of started a trend for my last name. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Wait, that's actually iconic and we should keep this in because that's amazing. If you are a dedicated Royals of Malibu superfan, you know her well. Emma DeMuth, thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much for doing this with me. Oh my god, it's an honor. I feel like we should tell people about how this happened. I would love for- How you kind of manifested this. I think that would be a great place to start. So I emailed Stephanie I was like, Hey, do you have time next
Starting point is 00:04:31 week to get on a call with me? And you thought you were like in trouble or something? Oh, yeah, I was like, they are cutting me I have been cut from season three. It was nice knowing you. Yeah. But basically, you know, it was like exact opposite. I I've been thinking a lot about Lucy as a character and how she's just kind of like the fairy godmother that we all need and you know as we're working on Making season 3 we want to we want to keep entertaining you guys until we're officially and ready to announce What's happening with season 3 we're working on it But I thought, who better to work with than Stephanie? I feel like you're always so fun on set to talk to. And I think a lot of our listeners will really appreciate the advice you have to share.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I mean, it's just such an honor. I feel like the Rose of Malibu has been the light of my life. It was the most fun I've had on a project. And what's so funny in terms of the manifesting of it all is I literally was feeling really lost in my life. And I was meditating as I do a lot. And I just kind of had this thought like, oh, I would just love a way to give advice to people. I love just hearing people's stories and like connecting on such a human level. And I love just getting real and going there and doing things with heart and with purpose. And just it all sounds so high-flutin. But I have a point, which is that I really was like, I would love to just like give advice somehow.
Starting point is 00:05:58 And not that I think I'm someone who's an authority on anything, but I just I love the kinds of conversations that come out of content like this and the kinds of topics that end up being discussed. And I literally had the thought of like, like, Lottie's with Lucy or something would be so cool. It was so, so spooky, so eerie, so out of this world that you then almost immediately after was like, Hey, I have an idea. It was very, very surreal. And here we are. Should we jump in? Should we just dive into this hot pot of tea? More context. This is the first episode we're giving a lot of context. The other episodes we'll jump right in. But so each episode, we're going to be either playing or reading whether
Starting point is 00:06:42 people want to send us voice memos, whether they want to write in to stay a little bit more anonymous, two to three questions an episode, whether it's career related, whether it's love life related, friend related, school related, whatever you're dealing with, write us in. We're going to give more information at the end of this episode on how you can do that. And we'll give you guys advice. So we actually have three questions already from some of our fans. Yeah, let's, let's get right into the thick of it. Hi, Stephanie. Okay, I have a question. So my boyfriend and I have been dating for like six months, and I trust him. In general, I think we have a really healthy relationship. But in a moment of insecurity, I went and looked at the accounts he was following on
Starting point is 00:07:31 Instagram and I saw that he follows a ton of Instagram models, like bikini models and models with OnlyFans accounts, etc. I know they're not girls that he knows in real life, obviously, but it still makes me feel weird and uncomfortable. And I don't know if I want to bring it up or just let it be and act like I never saw it. Let me know what you think. Okay, so much to unpack here. First of all, there is just like nothing more disappointing than feeling like The person that you trust most in the world could be untrustworthy
Starting point is 00:08:12 so I want to like completely honor and like hold space for like That feeling you must have felt of just like dread and perhaps jealousy or perhaps Anger who knows how you were feeling, but like it's so valid to have that response. I think here's what I would say. I feel like the first thing to always remember is that we, our brains are so wired to immediately jump to the worst case scenario.
Starting point is 00:08:41 And what I've learned so much in my life lately is like I will always immediately jump to the craziest of extremes in regards to people's behavior. I feel like it's just, it's a trauma response. It's also just our brain's proclivity to just pick the worst case scenario to protect ourselves from it actually happening. So my, what I mean by that is I feel like before you even create in your head the narrative that he's liking and following and interacting with these accounts, I think before we jump to conclusions, we have to honor the possibility that he followed these accounts years ago.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I think, I don't know about you, but I do not ever go through the accounts that I follow and like edit the list. I don't have no idea the accounts that I follow and edit the list. I don't have no idea half the people I'm following. So I think this is one of those instances where it's so easy to draw intention out of a neutral stimuli. And so it's like, okay, he follows a bunch of hot models. When he was single, it was probably really entertaining for him to follow a bunch of hot models.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And now he's with you. And you know, he might have just never had the foresight or the thought to like comb through his followers and start to unfollow accounts. I don't really know of anyone that really takes the time to do that necessarily. I'm also not like an active unfollower, you know, but that's what I would say is like, I think let's not jump to conclusions. Now on the other hand, if you know, you're seeing and noticing that he's commenting on a lot of these, you know, accounts photos, or he sees he's
Starting point is 00:10:12 interacting a lot with these kind of accounts, I think that is a behavior that absolutely could be brought up. But it's hard because it's like, you don't want to admit that you've been kind of, you know, stocking a little bit, healthy stalking, and you don't want to admit that, you know, you're so untrusting. But I think that's the question is if you really trust your partner, I don't think it really has any weight if they're following these accounts or not. And I think, you know, if you do feel like you need to bring it up, I think it's completely rational to be like, hey,
Starting point is 00:10:45 I know this might sound crazy. And I know that I might be jumping to really wild conclusions here. But I did notice that there's a lot of models and attractive women on your feed. And like, it just makes me feel a kind of way. And like, could you, would you be down to unfollow them? It would just make me feel so much better. And I think if a partner respects you and respects how their behavior makes you feel, I feel like he'd be like, yeah, no problem. Because if the accounts really mean nothing to him, it won't matter if he has to unfollow them. You know what I mean? What do you think? I think you're spot on. I love the last thing you said to you. I think his his reaction to you asking for that is all you
Starting point is 00:11:26 need to know. Like if he gives you a hard time for that, dump him. Honestly. Yeah, I know maybe I'm being a little too decoy. Yeah, like if anything's making you uncomfortable, like you're entitled to your feelings and you should respect that. And I think there's a lot of pressure nowadays for women to be the quote unquote cool girl and be so unbothered by everything. But I think eventually that's going to build up and it's going to explode. I've definitely been tried to be the cool girl and eventually it catches up with me. So at the end of the day, I think you need to be honest with how you're feeling and communicate that and see how he reacts to that.
Starting point is 00:12:01 And if he's respectful of what's bothering you, great. Problem solved. If not, I really, yeah. And by the way, I feel like I don't mean to sound like I'm letting this dude off the hook. I'm just like in, I've, in my experience lately, I've had experiences where I've like really jumped to conclusions and people have been really hurt by the conclusions I've, I've jumped to. And so that's where I'm coming from is like, I've just had a lot of instances lately where I've totally like misread a situation, which is so disorienting because like we all like to think that we just like know everything and like know exactly what's going on. And I think, I think that this is why I love having you here Emma, because I think a blend of
Starting point is 00:12:36 our two responses is exactly it. Like give them the benefit of the doubt. Like don't assume he's doing anything shady, but like, push back and like demand what you want and ask for what you want a la Emma's response. And if he has any kind of pushback, like, bye bye. Yeah. Well, I think like 90% chance you're absolutely right. Like guys just like don't think about these things. That's what I mean. It's not like he probably doesn't even know. Yeah, like doesn't even realize. And if he does Like, doesn't even realize.
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Starting point is 00:14:32 and she's booking a lot of like dinners and tours and like a boat trip. And it's like, I just think it's getting kind of out of hand. My problem is that I don't know how to tell everyone that I can't afford to do all of the things that they're planning to do. Like it's already a lot for me to be on the trip at all like financially and like I don't want to bail obviously on the trip but I definitely can't afford to do all of the dinners and excursions that are being planned. Especially because we're supposed to split the cost of everything.
Starting point is 00:15:11 And so I don't want to inconvenience everyone else, but I also know that I can't do all of it. So I need help, please. I cannot tell. I relate so hard to this to you too, Emma. I feel like especially like in your 20s, I she just said girl's trips. I don't know the full context of this. But like once your friends start getting married and like the bachelorette culture, it is expensive. Like, I know so many people that are in so much credit card debt
Starting point is 00:15:40 just because they want to be the good friend. They want to celebrate their friend's marriage or baby showers or whatever it is. But it's a lot. It's become too much in my opinion. It's become out of hand. Also, I'm pretty, I mean, I don't know. Are you single as well? Yes, I'm single. Oh yeah. Are you comfortable with us saying that? Oh yeah. 100%. Oh cool. No, yeah. Great.
Starting point is 00:15:59 I'm like probably single. I, yeah. It probably won't be, if I get married, it won't be for like probably like 10 years. And like all I know it won't be if I get married, it won't be for like probably like 10 years. And I'm like, oh yeah, my friends are gonna be like married and have babies by then. And they're not gonna wanna go to Vegas with me. Wait, also how old are you anyway? I digress. What?
Starting point is 00:16:15 You're definitely younger than me. How old are you? I'm 26. Yeah, you are 32. Okay. You're not that much older than me. I mean, baby, you're so cute. Look at you like killing it at the 26th. Anyway, sorry. Yeah, I mean, like, listen, Emma and I are
Starting point is 00:16:30 both single at the moment and like the single tax is real and it's really, really hard. But I feel like getting back to like the girls trip of it all, it's first of all, there is just nothing more frustrating than not making as much as your friends. It's really hard. It can feel embarrassing. It can feel like just something you don't want to have to constantly be reconciling. And I think, you know, you know what we're going to say. If they're your friends, they just want what's best for you.
Starting point is 00:17:01 And I think there's a really honest and vulnerable and like diplomatic way to go about this. And I think I know that it's hard and I know it's embarrassing. And I don't know the dynamic of like the group of girls that you're going with. But I think if you just say, Hey gals, like I'm so, so excited for this trip. Like I've been crunching numbers and to be honest, I really have like a hard cap at, you know, maybe you say a dollar amount or maybe you don't even know what the dollar amount necessarily is but you can just say, you know, I'm really having to live super lean just to make the bare minimum of this trip work. I so so support you guys going on the various planned, you know, added expenses, but I just got to be honest
Starting point is 00:17:42 it's gonna put me in such a bind if I go along with everything that we have planned. And if you know, I just hope that you can understand that I might have to go do my own thing for some of these days. Now what that doesn't honor is how like, but what a bummer it is that you can't do all the things and that's going to be hard. And so I think part of you, I'm so proud of you for being financially responsible and like you could totally just rack up a credit card with absolutely
Starting point is 00:18:06 everything in the name of people pleasing, but also in the name of having a good time. And I think you're doing this really, really thoughtfully, and I'm really proud of you. And I think, I also think, you know, who knows, maybe there's a world in which I don't know the dynamic of your friendship, but if your friends are really like in a financially secure spot and they can spot you and maybe you can pay them back, maybe that's an option. If that makes you uncomfortable or them uncomfortable, maybe you just really make peace with sitting out on certain things.
Starting point is 00:18:35 But I think it's so important that you say something because it's going to eat away at you. Money things are so poisonous and I just, there is so, this just inner dread I feel like that starts to weave its ugly head when it feels like money is starting to become a problem amongst friends. And I think it's just so important to set your boundaries and speak your piece from the very beginning. It makes it so much less complicated. And you're saving yourself from so much future resentment by just laying down the law now and not doing everything and then really regretting it later. Mic drop. That was the most perfect answer. I have no, I have no notes,
Starting point is 00:19:16 nothing to add there. Everything Steph just said was so perfect. And I think it's also like, you don't have to spend a lot of money to have a good time with your friends. Like yes, there's so many ways. We are so good at saying different things. Like I don't know, like you guys can brainstorm other ways you could like there's so many fun free things to do, you know, just in general. But I think at the end of the day, it's about communication.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Like you always want to be clear with your friends because that resentment does build up. And eventually, similar to the last question, like if you don't communicate, it's going to explode at some point. And you're saving yourself time and energy by being upfront about how you're feeling. And if they're really your friends, they'll understand. Yeah, I love that. I love this angle Emma's coming from of
Starting point is 00:20:05 like we could also just suggest that maybe for some of the days we do more free things and you know I think it's hard it's like I think we need to know a little more about the group dynamic. It is hard if all the other gals are like so on board and you're the one to center like that can make it difficult but maybe by the way maybe some of your friends are feeling just as... What's the word? Maybe some of your friends are feeling just as concerned about it and they're just too scared to say something or too embarrassed to say something because it's an uncomfortable topic. We all want to be living the aspirational, experience-driven like lux lives of our dreams. And it's also a hard time out there. Like, I
Starting point is 00:20:46 have still never really gone on a proper girls trip because it's too expensive and because I can't even find a way for all my friends to have off work at the same fucking time, you know? Like, I think it's really a privilege and a gift that you get to go to this trip at all, that you guys get to be together, and it's really not about like blowing all your money on various things. It's about having a great ass time together. All right. Final question of today's episode.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Hi, Lucy. I'm currently a junior in college, but I just changed my major to something completely different than what my parents think I'm doing. How do you think I should break the news to them? Okay. I have so many thoughts on this. First of all, mazel tov, okay? Because to make the decision to change majors is not an easy one,
Starting point is 00:21:31 and it's a very personal decision, and it's something you're doing clearly because you feel moved and passionate to work on a different area. This is really hard. There have been several moments in my life where I've had to do something that I felt like my parents wouldn't approve of. I feel like the biggest one was moving from New York to LA. And that was a really big deal. No one in my family has ever left New York.
Starting point is 00:21:54 They're like, why would you ever, New York is the greatest, go New York City. But I feel like I think it's really, really hard to do something that you know is going to perhaps upset your parents, but you have to do it. And here's why. It's because you were never going to become your own person until you're in a moment exactly like this. It's like you don't become your own person when everyone's just like supporting you and in alignment with what you're doing. I actually believe you become who you're meant to be in these moments of opposition, in these moments where you're deeply unsure and scared
Starting point is 00:22:34 and it feels like a massive risk. It's like those are the moments that really make you who you are. And so I know that it's going to be scary and they might not agree and they might give you pushback and they might pull all the guilting and the lamenting and the disagreeing. Whatever brand of guilting your family tends to do, they're probably going to pull that out, whip that out for you. And it's going to be really hard. But I guess I think the best way to do it, to answer her question, I think the best way to do it is just to be really honest and to be like, hey, I know this might come as a shock and this might seem like a really rash decision, but it's something I've been thinking about for a while and I'm really,
Starting point is 00:23:20 really jazzed about what I'm doing. And I've decided to switch from major A to major B. really jazzed about what I'm doing. And I've decided to switch from major A to major B. And, you know, I have a feeling not to, you know, assume anything, but I would imagine you might be going from perhaps a more like reliable, stable, or like conventional major, let's assume to maybe a more artsy or unconventional or, or unconventional or, you know, less acceptable major. I would imagine that's what's going on. And, you know, I think you can say to them,
Starting point is 00:23:48 I know this might seem like the wrong decision, but I really just need to do what I need to do. And college is such a finite time in my life, and it's gonna be over soon. And I wanna just take the classes that make me the most inspired and are the most interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:24:07 And it's going to make me get the most out of my college experience. And I think all your parents want is to feel like you're taking full advantage of the school that you're at and that you're learning as much as possible and that you're as happy as possible. And I think really playing to the fact as someone who's like, I'm 32, I've been out of college for a decade. And it's wild how fast it goes and how soon it's over and how much you long for those years back. And I know that your parents will feel that way too. I think as much as you like play up the fact that you're aware of how special and important this time is in your life and
Starting point is 00:24:45 that you want to do it, making sure you're doing the classes and the major that makes you the happiest and the most fulfilled. How can they argue with that? Yeah. And I know it's hard because everyone's like, well, my parents are paying for college maybe, or they want me to be set up for success in my future. If the pandemic taught us anything, it's that nothing's for certain.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And I have so many friends that went into the most conventional guaranteed success lines of work you can imagine. And they're struggling just as much as my friends that are artists. And I think it's just, there's no amount of preparing, there's no amount of playing it safe that's gonna protect you from the randomness and the chaos of life, from the cosmic joke that is life.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And you just have to do what makes your heart sing. It's cringe, it's corny, but it's true. And what you study in college doesn't ultimately matter. What I found, like I have friends that are in med school now that, like, studied art and Spanish and, like, different things in undergrad, and that made them more interesting for medical school. Like, I have friends that studied business and are now artists. I have, it doesn't really matter as long as, like, you are building some kind of knowledge
Starting point is 00:25:58 capital, whether it, it doesn't also have to be from the classroom too. Like, whether it's the people you're meeting or the clubs you're joining or the internships you're doing, that's what's more important than just what your major is on a resume. Ultimately, like it doesn't really matter. It's what you do with it. Every time I think I've done a slam dunk of a response,
Starting point is 00:26:18 I'm like, oh, nevermind, Emma's better. That was amazing. No, you're so right. You have the foundation. I'm just like sprinkling the stuff. No, it's like, I love that I'm like, your major is everything and you're like, and also doesn't even matter, which is true. Like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:26:35 And it's just, you know, I'm from Westchester, which is a suburbs of New York City where everyone is like literally obsessed with like where you go to school and grades and it's it's just All about it and they love it. There's a wall where you put your photo and where you're going for the seniors It's like I was raised in a very academia focused Environment and I understand so much what I it's hard because she gave us like no context But like I'm a man. I don't want to make like these grand grand assumptions about your parents. But I feel like if I imagine they're similar to the kinds of parents that I have and grew up with,
Starting point is 00:27:11 there's so much pressure put on college and then you get out of college. And as I said, as someone who's 10 years out, it's like, wow, no one gives a shit that I graduated summa cum laude. I'm going to brag about it and say it right here, but no one cares. It just doesn't matter. And my friends that are the most successful didn't even go to college. My friends that are the most successful, like you said, are doing absolutely, absolutely nothing that pertained to their major. And I think my friends that are the most successful are the ones that have always valued being well-rounded. Yep. And if you're you're in college I really recommend reading this book called The Defining Decade by Meg J. I read it when
Starting point is 00:27:49 I was like 21 years old. It completely changed my life. And she talks about this thing called knowledge capital and it's all about just like being intentional with with what you do. It doesn't necessarily mean like okay I have to follow this certain formula in order to get where I want to go. It's more so whatever you're doing, try to find some way in which it can help you grow towards some kind of goal you have. For example, the author herself, she's a psychologist now, but in her 20s, she spent most of her 20s working as an outdoor kayak
Starting point is 00:28:25 camp counselor, making no money. It's not something you would expect a future doctor to have worked in, but what she learned is how to resolve conflicts with kids, learning how children develop, how they interact with each other by being a kayak camp counselor in the middle of the woods. There there's things like that. There's things that like aren't necessarily like really fancy that can be on your resume or things that you can study that can still teach you something that you can't get the other people can't do. You know, like anyone can study can study something or they can get the
Starting point is 00:29:00 certain internship or whatever. But how can you differentiate yourself from other people and build this own knowledge capital outside of just your education is really what helps you stand apart. I'm not articulating this great really. No, you are. You are. The defining decades. She, she like- I want to read it. It's three different, yeah, read it. It's like there's three different sections, ones about your career, which I think would be really helpful for you, dear listener slash
Starting point is 00:29:23 writer. Dear listener. Dear listener, bringing in your reader. We can't use that. She talks about that. And then she talks about like friendships with people and like, like how you why you should cut toxic people, toxic people of your life. And then she also has a section on relationships and dating intentionally. And that's really fascinating to also change the way that I see dating. Anyway, read her book.
Starting point is 00:29:45 This is not a sponsorship. Yep. If you're in your early 20s, the defining decade, Meg J. Meg J. Read it. Process it, internalize it and go forth. I really love this. I'm so enormously grateful like right before this, like literally yesterday. So I've been on hold all week. This is so sad. We can include it, maybe not. I don't know. I've been on, I was on hold for a Lowe's commercial. So it was like down to me and I don't know how many other people, but I got to like the end, you know, in the commercial process. And I would have been, it would have been me and Travis Kelsey. And I am the biggest Taylor Swift fan on the planet. And it just, you know, I've watched like all of my friends kind of like book these big commercials and get engaged and you know, all the different things and I've just kind
Starting point is 00:30:37 of been like, I feel like in a holding pattern like in waiting and I'm just and I I've had like a lot of disappointments and it's hard to not get caught up in the narrative of that. And it really felt like maybe, wow, maybe this is going to be my moment. And I got the email from my agent yesterday that I was released from the hold, meaning I didn't get it. And it is such a… I'm sorry. No, yeah. It's such a bummer and it's so hard because it would have been so cool. And I think, you know, obviously it's an enormous win to have gotten this close.
Starting point is 00:31:10 I've never been put on a veil for a national commercial like this. I've never been considered opposite someone so fucking iconic. And that's like a huge win. And that does have value, even though it's not tangible in this moment right now. And I think just my point is I am so grateful to be doing this podcast. This is like it's as much a help for me as it is for hopefully, God willing, the listeners. And I think it's just you never know what someone's going through and you never know
Starting point is 00:31:42 what someone needs to hear and you never know just like what's around the corner. And I feel like, you know, yeah, I didn't get that commercial and that was like really hard and, you know, I have to kind of just kind of get back to work and get back to the grind and get back to my life and not let it affect me. But it's like it's also so important to realize that with that happening, it's made me just so deeply grateful to be here doing this thing with you. Like it's just everything shines light on everything else and it's all part of a bigger story that we're all going to tell one day.
Starting point is 00:32:13 100%. And the fact that you made it that far like shows that you have talent and you deserve to be there. And statistically like you're, it's going to happen soon. You know, like you've, you've gotten these opportunities for a reason. And if you continue to persevere, it's going to happen. Yeah. It's funny. I was watching this interview with Chappell Rhone, who's another icon. My friend used to be her roommate. No way! My friend used to live with her and her ex boyfriend. The one that she always talks about. It was the three of them.
Starting point is 00:32:48 I hope that she's actually nice. Yeah, she is. Thank God. Oh my God. Yeah. Well, yeah, I love her. I'm obsessed with her. She's everything.
Starting point is 00:32:56 And she was saying on a pod that just so much of succeeding in music is just never stopping. And we just, if anyone listening to this right now, I don't know if we're including any of what I just said, but if we do, if you're listening and you're also an actor that feels like you just can't break the rule, we have to keep going. We just have to keep going. Like we can't stop.
Starting point is 00:33:21 That's letting the haters win. We can't stop. We can't stop. We have to keep going We can't stop. We have to keep going. Okay. Wow. Emma, we just did our first episode.
Starting point is 00:33:30 We did. That was great. I mean, I'm- I think they kind of crushed it. I mean, I hope. We'll see what the response is. I know. Please write nice comments.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Yes, please. Please don't give us hate. We're too fragile. We are words of affirmation, gals. So thank you so much to our listeners who gave us your questions. It was so vulnerable and so brave of you to do so. And if you're sitting there listening and thinking, wait, I have something I want to ask, please, hello, we want your questions, head to emeraldaudio.co slash latteswithlucy. That's emeraldaudio.co slash lattesattes with Lucy. That's emeraldaudio.co. slash Lattes with Lucy to
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