The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Eagles Dominate Chiefs. How Bad Is This Loss on Mahomes's Résumé? Plus, Trent Dilfer on Always Believing in Jalen Hurts.

Episode Date: February 10, 2025

Russillo starts the show with his thoughts on the Eagles' dominant defensive performance and a Brady-Mahomes GOAT update (0:47). Then, he’s joined by Trent Dilfer to learn why the Chiefs struggled so much, discuss whether this changes his opinion on Patrick Mahomes, and break down what makes Jalen Hurts so tough to defend (19:00). Finally, Life Advice with Ceruti and Kyle (50:10)! Am I stealing valor with a thrifted shirt? Check us out on YouTube for exclusive clips, livestreams, and more at https://www.youtube.com/@RyenRussilloPodcast. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Host: Ryen Russillo Guest: Trent Dilfer Producers: Steve Ceruti, Kyle Crichton, and Mike Wargon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Philadelphia Eagles your Super Bowl champs in dominant fashion. Did anyone see this coming? Well, ask Trent Dilfer what he thought of the game going in and the execution, how it played out. Was there anything the Homes could have done to make this any better for his side? I'm going to run through some of the historical stuff that we saw in particular, the four man pass rush. That was the story. They won all night and it's all they needed.

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I'm sure both fan bases were swearing either in celebration last night or if you're a cheese fan. How did that happen? At 10-0, you're going, wait, Mahomes has been down 10-0 all of his other Super Bowls. Like, man, that's a great stat. What about 34-0? Is that something that he can come back from?

No, that doesn't happen. And to recap this whole thing and throw some numbers at you, you've already seen them all, but this was, and I'm going to swear now, this was an all-time ass-kicking, an historic ass-kicking because of who is behind center for the Kansas City Chiefs. So 24-0 at halftime, 13-1 in first downs in favor of Philly, 39 plays, only 20 for Kansas City cheaps. So 24, nothing at halftime. 13 to one in first downs in favor of Philly. 39 plays, only 20 for Kansas City. But I bring that up because at one point it was 10

first downs for Philadelphia. Kansas City had run 10 plays on offense. Yards 179 to 23, passing yards 117 to 20. 20 passing yards for Patrick Mahomes in the first half of the Super Bowl. 20. Rush attempts, Philly 23 for 62 yards, 2.7 to carry, Kansas City did a good job against the run. You know what's better than that?

Three rushing attempts for three yards in the first half for Kansas City. So the story of the game was Philly destroying Kansas City's old line with a four man rush. If you can win with four, you can do a lot of things and you're going to win a lot of games. And as I was going through the big plays and paying attention to the four man rush, cause it kept the

way I'll watch a game is, you know, there's, there's certain things I'll kind of be like, Oh, I wonder what will happen here. I wonder what's going on there. I try not to ball watch. I wish I never watched it because we always get to see the replay, but sometimes you can't help yourself.

And as I'm watching the pressure get there, I'd rewind and be like, well, how did the pressure get there this time? And then I was consistently just looking at it going, oh man, they're winning with four, they're winning with four, they're winning with four again. Oh, they got there with four again. I think there was even one play where they got decent pressure, where they only had three guys. But that was the whole point is they didn't ever need to use an extra

defender to get pressure against Patrick Mahomes. 42 drop backs, zero blitzes by Philadelphia's defense. On those 42 drop backs, they sacked him six times, the most in a game for Mahomes career. 16 pressures. They also, according to NextGen on the four-man pass rush, zero bl blitz approach played zone on all but two of his drop backs. They played this cover four scheme 59.5% of the time, which the third highest any team has played that kind of coverage by defense in a game since 2018. It's the second worst performance of Mahomes career by EPA expected points added minus 19.3. So the second worst game of his career

was last night in the Super Bowl. And if you look at some of these other stats, this is according to ESPN research, Mahomes is the sixth QB to never be blitzed in a Super Bowl game in Super Bowl history. The teams that never blitzed, their record in those six games. Six and oh.

But at 10, oh, I still had a little faith, even though I'm like, man, they're getting there and I'm getting there. Well, at least I got to my faith because of my homes and who he's been. But if you look at like that 10, oh possession, Kansas City gets the ball and you go play by play. Kansas city gets the ball and you go play by play. Sweat is lined up across from Kelsey. Kelsey is supposed to be in the block off the snap. Kelsey isn't even out of his stance and sweat is past him. I don't know what that is. I've watched the play over and over again. I was watching it this morning.

Cause like, it was so alarming last night. It's like, was, did he not know the count did? Was he supposed to chip and then get out? But I think the way he played it, he was supposed to stay in and block or at least do something. And it just, he was never even like sweat was gone. Kelsey's still standing on second and 14 right after that. On second and 14, right after that, um, hunt on the other side for Philadelphia just pushes

Tooney back into the pile and it collapses around Mahomes. And then you're looking at third and forever and it's the pick six. Mahomes had time, but he still flushes out to his right. Um, you could also thrown a, probably he still flushes out to his right. Um, you could also thrown a, probably a holding flag on Juan Taylor.

If you wanted to on that play, my home's throws the pick and it's not just a pick against pressure. It's a pick against the defense or a defensive player in this case in Cooper de Jean that my homes just never even sees like those are the picks that the great ones usually never have. Like maybe a guy makes a play on a ball. I always look at picks towards the end when you're desperate and you're just trying to move the chains, it's a fourth down or something like

those picks I have less of a problem with. But when somebody doesn't see somebody and that's when you're thinking, is it because of this pressure and it's already getting to him? Like how does he throw a pick in that spot? Because clearly he doesn't even see the jeans underneath the gene runs it back. Pick six. The next pick, right. Cause at that point at 17, nothing Kansas city first and 10 after they had gone three and out

Philadelphia punts, Kansas city first and 10 of their had gone three and out, Philadelphia punts. Kansas City first and 10 at their own six yard line, Sweatt pushes Tuni right into Mahomes again. And this interception is not even close. Zach Bond makes the play. Great play by the linebacker. Always feel like linebackers are the guys that quarterbacks never think are going to make the interception, except for like a very short list of guys bond great on this. The throws not even close. Mahomes is hit, but on first down at first and six, one 45 to go. You're thinking, no, what should my homes do there?

Well, he can't go down cause he's in the end zone. He's probably thinking he's going to still figure this game out. So he's willing to be aggressive knowing that they need six, even with a full field to go. But that pressure, getting stepped on by his own guy, you can say that's not really on him. But the whole point is that all of this is collectively tied to all of it. So is this interception worse than that interception? None of it really matters because we're talking about a situation where. Mahomes looked uncomfortable in a way that I don't know that we've ever

seen before and it was in the Superbowl. 10 seconds later, it's 24 nothing. So here the good news after getting your doors beaten in, if you're a chiefs fan, you don't have to defend your team against everyone saying there's a conspiracy. The games are rigged for you. Right. And bring this up too, because you know, you're feeling bad today. I used to remember like when my team lost, I just couldn't go online for a little

while, and this is before like there was a real online presence that we have today. I'm talking about like early days of ESPN.com page two, like couldn't look at it. Couldn't watch sports center. You're like, I'm just going to sit there and see the trophy go to those guys over and over and over again. I'm trying to have breakfast here before I

decide what to do with my day. So I'm going to watch sports center four straight times until I finally decide if I'm going to leave the house, but I don't need to watch SportsCenter four straight times until I finally decide if I'm going to leave the house. But I don't need to watch this trophy presentation over and over and over again. Granted, you probably don't do that anymore, but the point is you kind of have to go into hiding. But this should at least, if you're a Chiefs fan, the positive that you can't feel today,

but maybe months from now you can feel, is you'll be able to say, well, if it were rigged, then why did they take that one off? Wasn't it supposed to be for the three-peat? Taylor Swift in the building, the whole deal. Wasn't this the script that I kept hearing about over and over and over again? Because in that first call on AJ Brown, the offensive pass interference, you had people at the Superbowl parties that you were at, if it wasn't just chief Sands that were like, here we go again. Well, now you have evidence.

It's like, well, wait, what happened there? Um, so that's a positive on the other side of the thing. Hertz wins the MVP 17 to 22, 221 yards. And it's like, well, wait, what happened there? Um, so that's a positive on the other side of thing hurts wins the MVP 17 to 22, 221 yards, two touchdowns, the one pick did run at 11 times, 72 yards, one touchdown. So three touchdowns, I guess he's going to win it. I would have loved for somebody to have gotten

another D line. I don't know if you just look at Josh sweat and go, well, he has two and a half sacks. So he has more than the other guys. I think it's probably like, you'd have to watch the film to understand who really, really was destroying everything. But Sweat showed up a lot in a lot of plays where he didn't actually even get a sack.

So maybe he was supposed to get it. I thought that they were the story, but the quarterback is like just the default setting. You've got to do a lot on your team for the quarterback to not win MVP. I did think the Nike ad was a little weird. I don't think that Hertz has been relevant enough to have an entire Nike ad built around hate. But as I've told you for years now, almost every ad on every

athlete, because everyone is too online, is built around the motive of going back at the haters, whether it's the Steph documentary on Apple, as much as I love Steph, him being in the car listening to sock radio, some guy calling into a show, doubting the team. It's like, man, every one of these storytelling devices about today's athlete is always about the hate. Because again, they have access to hate in a way that athletes have never had access to in hate to hate before. And this ends up becoming the marketing thing. As I'm watching that Hertz thing, I was just like, look, I think a lot of people think he's pretty good.

They don't think he's one of the all timers and that's okay too. You want to force that topic in today. Good luck. You're probably wrong if you think Hertz is going to be one of the all timers, but he was great and good enough last night. Vic Fangio, I would imagine the week leading up, the two weeks leading up with his defensive group, were they watching the film of these tackles for Kansas City going, this is going to be ugly? I don't know. I mean, we can go through and some of the post game stuff and everything, but people probably don't want to be up. But I would love to know like the real story, maybe years from now,

or these guys salivating watching film going, we're going to destroy these tackles. And because we're going to get there with four all night long and our depth on the D line, that it's not going to matter. Cause they still have to worry about the big guys in the middle. So you edge guys can do a lot of the work, but they have to worry about our depth on the D line, that it's not going to matter because they still have to worry about the big guys in the middle. So you edge guys can do a lot of the work, but they have to worry about our guys in the middle.

We're going to have the extra defender back there. We're going to play zone. They're all going to be looking at my homes. And guess what? He's going to have a rough night. Like, could you actually be that confident because of the prep and what you see on film, execute the game plan,

but could you be that confident against somebody like my homes? Because I'd still think that whether the players, the coaching staff going, we love our plan, we love our matchup. We have this, but damn, what if that guy figures it out? Because that's what the quarterback position is about at the highest level. It's problem solving. It's solving the problem.

And Mahomes could not solve the problem last night. Uh, I actually thought Mahomes kind of, despite getting destroyed in that Tampa one, did a much better job of attempting to solve the problem against Tampa destroying their tackles years ago than anything we saw last night. Um, picking the Eagles going in, it was going to be scary for me. I think it was going to be scary for a lot of

people because of everything we've talked about with my homes. And I think it's that simple at times, you know, look, I didn't pick Nick Foles against Tom for me. I think it was going to be scary for a lot of people because of everything we've talked about with my homes. And I think it's that simple at times, you know, look, I didn't pick Nick Foles against Tom Brady either. I don't regret that. Maybe I regret this one a little bit more because if you look at the talent

and what this front office has done, it's spectacular weapons for Hertz, best offensive line in football. They bring in Saquon. They're, they seem to be pretty like straightforward about the defensive line. But Hey, was that guy awesome at Georgia? Let's go take him. Let's go do that. And completely overhaul the secondary with young players playing this many snaps,

all making big impacts throughout this entire season. Like this is an all time job by Howie Roseman in this front office. But you just never expect to have Mahomes look this bad. Even if you like the one through 53 advantage that Philadelphia had going into the game, because now this comes full circle to the Mahomes Brady stuff. Brady was really good on the broadcast last night. He was really good on loss and talking about how much the first giant Superbowl loss on the doorstep of an undefeated season, how much that still bothers him, how much the first giant Super Bowl loss on the

doorstep of an undefeated season, how much that still bothers him, how he thinks about three losses more than the seven wins. I think it would make sense where you go, man, you know, really going to let it bother you that much. But I think the fact that these guys are so good at what they do, the greats, they obsess about all of it. The obsessing part that may haunt them today, the obsessing part of it is probably part of the DNA that makes them great in the first place. So it's like, all right, whatever. I may be miserable about some of these things

that have happened in my life, but it helped me get here as well. So there's two ways of looking at the Brady Mahomes thing today because the Mahomes pursuit is dented. I don't know if it could be buffed out, but it's dented with that kind of result last night. Sometimes I felt like it was insane to suggest that Mahomes was trending towards surpassing Brady that was making a lot of assumptions about what the rest of the resume was going to look like. But we knew Mahomes had a long runway here.

But then at the same time, I felt like it was kind of simplistic to just dismiss the idea that Mahomes could be better than Brady because of just counting stuff. And there's an argument to be made about that. way here. Um, but then at the same time, I felt like it was kind of. Simplicity to just dismiss the idea that my homes could be better than Brady because of just counting stuff. And there's an argument to be made that my homes impact earlier in his career statistically is superior to Brady's and that my homes had the two MVPs by 27 in my homes, um, Brady, excuse me, didn't have his first one until he was 30 years old. So I think there's some like head to head individual stuff that you could point to.

And you could also go like, all right, well look, there's still three and two in their first five Superbowls. So what's, what's really out of reach. Um, the problem is the result was so one sided last night. Brady doesn't have any of these games. He doesn't have any of these games in a Superbowl resume, nothing even close to this, you've got the 31 nine, that's a head to head. All right.

And I would ask my home people, if it were the other way around, would you ever say, hey, he beat him head to head? Of course you would. So it's kind of like the college football arguments that we'll have every now and then. Like, okay, that's fine. That's your position now. But if it were reversed, would you dismiss that? Of course you wouldn't.

If we go through Brady's losses, he's got the David Tyree catch on that Manning drive, kind of a ridiculous thing. The Manningham catch after the Welker miscue in the rematch and then Foles putting up offense all day long on Brady who threw for 505 yards, New England had over 600 yards of offense and they lost because that defense couldn't stop Nick Poles. So those are his three losses. So as far as like the resumes and all that kind of stuff, like Brady doesn't have anything like last night, doesn't have anything like they had to head and this stuff will matter.

And we're trying to just whittle it down to who are the, you know, who of these two people are the best to ever do it. You have to bring this stuff up now, but there's another part of this where with Mahomes like Brady helped us understand last night, like this one, she'll haunt. Mom's. I don't know how he's ever going to get over this one. Cause Brady told us it's not more Superbowls.

Cause my homes is probably going to win some more Superbowls, but you're on the doorstep of a three Pete first team to ever do it in the Super Bowls. Cause my home's is probably going to win some more Super Bowls, but you're on the doorstep of a three Pete first team to ever do it in the Super Bowl era. And you're going to be thinking, how did that other team make me look that bad for three and a half hours on a Sunday night, a game I'd already played in multiple times, like it wasn't the atmosphere, it wasn't the pressure, it wasn't the buildup I've seen everything. People are saying I am the best to ever do it wasn't the pressure, it wasn't the buildup. I've seen everything. People are saying I am the best to ever do it despite the resume.

And I looked lost for one night. How did I let that happen? How did I not figure it out? How did I let my offensive line, like how did I not help them? Because I had a couple of moments last night where I was like, I don't know that Brady would let this happen for three and a half hours if he knew the pressure

was going to get to him. And you could even say it wasn't three and a half hours because they scored some points at the end of the game. Um, those don't matter. But if we want to end an accounting note, like my homes does have a long runway. He has a lot of time to catch up and all he has to do is in 14 years still be good enough to win a Super Bowl and be MVP like Brady did when he beat him when he was 44 years old. And now it's time for today's winning bundle segment presented by State Farm.

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The Monday after Super Bowl, we booked this last week because I was like, that'll be all these ins and outs, all this stuff, the detail and who better than to ask Trent Dofer, who is all over that stuff and also a Super Bowl champ and of course the head coach of UAV and a friend of the program. But I don't know, man, that was ugly. So we're still going to do this and figure it out. But thanks for joining us. How are you? I'm doing great, man. That was ugly. So we'll, we're still going to do this and figure it out, but thanks for joining us. How are you? I'm doing great, Ryan. It's great to see I missed doing the show with you.

Um, let's make it more often. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Uh, well, look, I, you know, I picked my homes, like everybody, like so many other people, just tough guy to pick against. And then you're watching it play out. And I remember, as I said in the open, I'm like, man, they're getting there with four a lot.

Like, Oh, that was with four again. Yep. No blitzes. And then we know historically like they never blitzed my home. So I imagine in the preparation, Fangio and that unit were thinking, Hey, is this the base? Is this the foundation for what we're going to try to do today? Uh, or maybe they're like, let's see if this works and if it holds up foundation for what we're going to try to do today?

Or maybe they're like, let's see if this works and if it holds up and then maybe we'll adapt throughout it. But when you started to see that become a major, major problem for Kansas City, like go into kind of what you think was happening with that group. Well, I thought two things were working in conjunction. And I'll start with probably what is not going to be talked about as much today, which is the offensive side for Philly. When you saw Philly get the ball and take advantage of Kansas City's run stopping plan, and the Chiefs had a great run stopping plan,

and not a good one, a great one. Movement up front, playing over the top of back blocks, chasing down the zone plays. And then Philly goes, okay, well then we're gonna throw the football. And when you play man, we're gonna take advantage of man matchups, and when you play zones, we're gonna hit you kinda in that middle of the field to numbers area. Take advantage of your zones, we're going to hit you kind of in that middle of the field to numbers area.

Take advantage of your zones. And Jaylen's nine for 11 at one point with a drop. And you're like, okay, so now we're going to get the lead. Philly's going to get the lead. And we're going to be able to play a two high shell and take advantage of the matchups up front that we knew we had. And I don't think that was a myth. I think everybody I watched and listened to leading up to the Super Bowl understood that

Philly had a tremendous advantage on the defensive line to Kansas City's offensive line. Kansas City's dealt with some issues this year up there, and Philly's just maybe the best in the league. So you knew there'd be a mismatch, but if Kansas City keep the game close and mix, run, pass, keep them on us, throw on their terms, let Mahone play the passing game on his terms, then you could really understand, okay, this is going to be a close game, get to the fourth quarter and Mahone's magic comes out. But as you're watching Philly just dominate offensively as well, then you're

like, well, this is going to be an all-day sucker for the Chiefs. They got no chance. And I just thought it was a brilliant job by Kellin of calling the game, of Hertz executing it. It wasn't heavy lifting for the receivers. I mean, this was not a complex thing. These were very simple. I mean, remedial pass concepts that had zone man answers.

There was a third and eight, I want to say second or third series, where they caught Kansas City in a zone coverage. They threw a quick game on third and eight. They threw what we call D-stick, which is a basic, first and second down player trying to get four to six yards. And they're calling on third Nate. And what that told me was that they had a real good beat on if Kansas City plays zones, they're going to play deep and soft and there's going to be pockets in there.

And if they're going to play man, they're going to be aggressive because they're expecting run and now we have a chance to win our one on one matchups. And that thing was over in about 10 minutes. Yeah, I thought, you know, I've enjoyed Brady. we have a chance to win our one on one matchups. And that thing was over in about 10 minutes. Yeah. I thought, you know, I've enjoyed Brady. I know it's not the way everybody wants it to be out of the jump, but I think there's some moments in there and like when he showed hurts kind of doing the gun signal to AJ Brown and the outside.

And I think they ended up getting in a matchup that they liked, but there were a stuff that I think I'd be talking about more today if it was a close game because of, of some of the little things that clearly all these guys are really comfortable with, um, in, in how they saw the matchups where, you know, granted Phillies D line has the advantage. Uh, it's crazy to think with this young secondary that Philly secondary would have the advantage because there's guys in the secondary that I really like. I like Kansas City's linebackers better than I like Philadelphia's linebackers.

But in the case that you're speaking to, I mean, even the shots of Devante when you're like, okay, they're probably just going to dial it back here. Like they're complete control of this football game. You know, if this had been a shootout, there were probably going to be even more matchups that were exploited here for the way Hurts this receiving core worked. Yeah, there was a you know, there's there's a comment early in the game Was it an interview pregame with Mahomes? I'm gonna get to your point here, but I'm gonna use my home's example I can't remember who it was was Aaron Andrews. Maybe was asking the homes before the game. Hey, you've struggled So Zaren Andrews maybe was asking Mahomes before the game, hey, you've struggled getting started fast. And Mahomes said, yes, we've got to keep it simpler.

That's what the lessons learned, even though they've won these games, is that we got to be simpler up the beginning of the game. Well, that's what Philly learned more than Kansas City. I mean, you want to talk about as simplistic of a plan as you could possibly draw up offensively and defensively. Philly had it. I mean, this offensive plan was brilliant in its simplicity. And it basically told you that, hey, if you're going to play us this way, meaning aggressive downhill man tight coverage,

then we feel like we are gonna take individual shots. Runaways are shots. And they always had a runaway, like a man runaway beater or a shot beater. And regardless of down and distance, we're taking it. I mean, the fourth down where they throw it to AJ on the sideline, they get the little push-off call against them, but it was very, you know, you practice that all week long. We're not trying

to get a first down here. You want to play us man. You want to isolate him. Then we're going to take the shot regardless of down in distance. The Devante touchdown. Doesn't matter what the score of the game is. Doesn't matter. Hey, you want to challenge us, we're going to go up top. The one that got him down for the first score that almost scored. You know, you want to challenge us. We don't care who it is out there running the individual matchup. We're going to take the shot. We believe we're better than you, mano a mano, in those situations. Defense was the same way. We're going to play a two-eye, big fangio defense, quarters match, cover two, different variations of split safety, and

we're going to get after you with four. There's one more thing. Make sure you get to me on the pass rush plan, Philly had that I thought was really brilliant too. But the plan in general was just so simple that the players knew it. There was great conviction. They saw soft zones. There was a couple of times they did call shots.

And I thought, I love Brady Kong games. I don't watch a ton of NFL during the season anymore. I'm too busy. But when I do watch a game in entirety, it tends to be the Fox game. I've probably heard Tom four to six times. I think he does a really good job. I think he mentioned this too, the decisiveness for which Jalen got the ball out of his hands to his underneath receivers when they were wrong on what they called.

So Kellen would call a shot on early downs, Kansas City bluffed kind of this man tight coverage look and boom, they jetted out of there in these spot drop zones. He wasn't waiting for something big. He immediately hit the back in the flat or immediately hit the tight end underneath or immediately hit the receiver underneath and let him run. There was no, we call pitching backwards, right? You're trying to take the shot but they're going to take the shot away. Boom, you pitch it underneath, you throw it underneath and let the guy run after the catch. So it was just, they were so decisive. Philly was on both sides of the ball because of the simplicity of the plan There is a number here from next gen if we're looking at the defensive matchup

And maybe before I share the number if you think about how you want to attack my homes You can sit there and say well We don't want to really blitz him a lot I've that's something that I've learned over the years is like if you want to go into a game against like one of the all-time Grades you think you're just gonna heat them up like they're they're going great to go into a game against like one of the all time greats, you think you're just going to heat them up. Like they're, they're going great, great blitz me all game. Cause I'm going to figure it out and you're just not going to be

able to hold up in the back end. So there's one part of it where you realize you're winning with four of the entire time. So like, even if we wanted to be creative and give him different looks, we actually don't need to do that because we're getting there. And then you're thinking, okay, the win is we have this extra guy in coverage. What happens here? Because the number from next gen was that it was this cover for that

you're talking about that Philly played 59.5% of the snaps, the third highest rate by defense playing that kind of coverage in a game since 2018. What does that coverage do beyond just, okay, we're getting there for, we have an extra guy. But in particular, like I, cause I could even understand Philly thinking with their corners and how well they play. Like we actually are so not afraid of Kansas City's receivers that we could just play man and we trust our guys to hold up. If we get beat a couple of times, then we can adjust. They never had to adjust any of the entire time. So what does that look give somebody like Mahomes with this group? Well, again, a football junkie is going to blow this answer, but I'm trying to keep it

pretty simple. It's a match zone. So what that means, here's a better way of saying it's a sticky zone. So it's a zone coverage. So you're responsible for areas of the field. So you're very decisive of how you can play those areas. Based on how the receivers deploy within their routes then tells you how sticky you are within your zone as a player deploys into your zone. Okay. Then there's reading off number two. If two goes to the flat, the corner can come off and becomes a cloud. So it's an organic zone. So the greatest thing about VIX defense is it's one call with multiple reactions to it.

It can be super sticky by certain players. It can be super passive by certain players so they can help if nobody jumps in their zone right away. It can be a read coverage, meaning they do, offense does one thing so we know because they do that, we can read and kind of have a built-in double coverage on somebody. And then there's eyes on the quarterback. And that, I think there's two key things to hear that I've heard Tom talk about before. And again, I did not have the sound on for the whole game, so he may have. But he had mentioned in a game earlier,

I don't know, a couple of weeks ago, the scariest thing for a quarterback in all of football is to be rushed hard while the defensive seven in the back end is looking at you. So eyes on defense with hard rush. Now, with not a hard rush and eyes on, not a big deal because you can manipulate those guys, you can find windows, you can actually dictate terms. But when you get rushed hard

and you have seven set of eyeballs looking at you, well the deeper they are with their eyeballs looking at you, guess what they're looking at? As soon as my hand comes off the ball, those eyes are reacting to where I'm looking. And because at distance, say they're 12 yards back, they also can judge how long that ball is going to be in the air so they can close those windows. And that most quarterbacks, in fact all quarterbacks I've ever talked to and I lived it, was we intuitively know how fast they can get from point A to B if their eyes are looking at us. Now you take in the rush component where I'm having to move off my spot, I'm having to

manipulate the pocket, I'm having to worry about ball spot. I'm having to manipulate the pocket. I'm having to worry about ball security. And now it's a total cluster. And that's what Patrick had to go through the whole night was it's not just I'm getting rushed and trying not to get sacked. It's that I can't anticipate throats because I got all these eyeballs looking at me in this sticky zone and if I make a mistake and like the the interception the second interception you know that's a pass rush interception he gets kind of bowled into him he's not gonna throw it to that guy throws it behind the receiver the reason he throws behind the receiver is because the pass rush getting pushed into him well and he was also rushing it because he knows he has this tiny little window he's

got to get that crossing route into before all the eyes are looking at him and can converge from the outside. We saw the interception come from the inside out. There's more defenders coming from the outside in, too, that he's aware of. So to me, that is what's so brutal. I'll get to the pass rush plan of the Eagles, too. Because it was so simple in nature, in the amount of calls, they were very complex in how they rushed up front. These were not just, hey, four guys with their hair on fire, just go win. These were tactical rushes. If you notice, the edge players, especially,

they rushed extremely hard. They majored with bowl rush, which means push the tackle into the quarterback. That was their major move they worked on. Full hand, triple extension, run the feet. The upfield arm was usually pressed harder than the inside arm, which was worked on for two weeks. Then they stopped. They didn't run past the launch point. And you saw it, because they understand Patrick's really good at climbing up before he goes out, where a lot of quarterbacks just want the wide departure, deep outside bolt. That's not Patrick. Aaron Rodgers is the same way. Their instincts are to climb first, then bolt right or left. So by pressing and bull rushing the end, I mean the tackles into that,

let's call it eight yard area, roughly, then they played underneath. So as Patrick climbed, there's this body presence with eyes on him by the defensive ends coming underneath too, which then made him reroute back outside. Well guess what was happening when they rerouted back outside?

The defensive tackles, who were pushing, were pushing, were pushing reroute back outside. Well, guess what was happening when they rerouted back outside? The defensive tackles who were pushing, were pushing, were pushing, they departed outside and had contained a lot of times in those rushes. So it was a very tactical plan by the Eagles to make sure they bull rushed the tackles, pushed them into Patrick's pocket, let Patrick do what he does, great, which is climb naturally.

Well, let's take advantage of that climb and then contain with the other two players. So you take all that into account with a too high sticky zone shell. I mean, that was, I looked at my wife one time and I said, I've lived this hell so many times. Like this is the worst possible scenario for any quarterback. I don't care. This is the krypton scenario for any quarterback.

I don't care. This is the kryptonite to the goats. Like this is truly the kryptonite to the Brady's, the Mahomes, the Rogers, the whoever you wanna put on the Mount Rushmore. This is really the only form of defense that they don't even have the answers for. An average guy like me, it just crushed us. But the greats, it even, it makes them normal.

It just makes them average and normal. When my homes lost to Tampa, it was just clear from the jump, like, okay, the tackles are getting destroyed. And we know the story about how beach had promised to him that we'll fix this. And they did. And they fixed it in that game. I left it thinking like, look, Tampa dominated this team, but Mahomes actually gave them a chance.

You know, like I know that seems crazy looking back at it historically, but like during the game, there were times with my homes. I was like, he doesn't have a chance. looking back at it historically, but like during the game, there were times with Mahomes, I was like, he doesn't have a chance and he's still like somehow making some of these plays. That didn't happen last night at all. Is there any way to fix it?

Was there any way to get out of that hell? Not with Philly's offense playing at the clip they were playing. That's why I led with that. Yes, this is a 10 point game. I think Mahomes finds a way. I think Andy Reid finds away You know, they started moving the puck a little bit had a little success there They had a you know when they went to their Mayday kind of their two-minute offense

They had a draw game. That was a little bit successful Yeah, they could have kept this thing balanced and not played catch up the whole time Yeah, if they could have kept this thing balanced and not played catch up the whole time, had it a one, like I said, a one score, 10 point game, I think this thing gets in the fourth quarter and Malm's finds a way. But when Philly's offense is playing that efficiently and when they're playing the same incredible level that their defense is playing, there's nothing a quarterback can do. We all expect them.

I used to say this on TV all the time. They don't have Superman capes. As great as they are, as great. I think the guy calling the game and the guy playing in the game are the two greatest of all time. And neither of them, they can't go into the foam booth and put on the Superman cape. They're not as that great. They still are dependent upon 10 other people. They're still dependent on their defenses. They're still dependent on their special

teams. They're still dependent on their coaches. They can see ultimate team game for a reason is unbelievable as they are. They can't do it by themselves. And I think the thing that you saw get away early in this game wasn't just great Philly defense or great Philly's offense, it was the compounding effect of Philly being better in every part of this game. And the overwhelming sense of, oh, this is only going to get uglier. Like, this is not going to fix itself here. This is not going to correct. My brother-in-law looks, I'm sorry, my son-in-law looks at me when Kansas City gets the ball at like 1-46 left in the first half. He goes, oh, typical Mahomes. You're going to take them down to the score. They're going to get the ball in the second half and they're going gonna score. I said, Christian, I get it.

I'm not saying you're a dummy for thinking that because you watched Mahomes do this enough. I said, bro, I'll double down on you and say Philly scores more points before this game ends, before this half ends. That's how egregious this has become. And sure enough, the next play, interception, and then they get the touchdown.

So, and I'm not, listen, I'm wrong as much as I'm right, but this one was not hard. Like this one, 10 minutes into this game, 10 minutes of real time, not 10 minutes of clock time. 10 minutes of real time had 28 point win written all over it. Let's talk about the Brady Mahomes thing. Um, because, you know, again, I kind of closed with this in the beginning of the pod in that I don't want to just go, well, this guy has

this many rings and this guy has this many, so it's impossible to do that. Because we think about like how brilliant Mahomes has been from the jump. Okay. And Tom kind of grew in to this, even though the team was having all the success from a quarterback standpoint, he also wasn't asked to do the kind of stuff that a quarterback is asked to do today and, you know, Belichick always had that defense rolling for what? The first decade of Tom's run.

But Tom doesn't have anything like this on his Super Bowl resume and he beats him head to head and You know it can feel a little bit like all right. Well my home still has a lot of time to go they're both three and two to start their Super Bowl career, but when it comes to the The stuff that you have to use when you're talking about who is the greatest of two single guys Like you're gonna people are gonna point to this people are gonna point to last night and go, well, for a night, this guy that's in the conversation with Brady had absolutely no answers. I'm always a little uncomfortable with these conversations. The seat I sit in because I played the position, you know, and I have such an admiration, reverence for the guys that play it and played it so much better

than I ever played it. But I get these are real conversations that people have constantly and I've always gone back to the winning. I think that and both of them will say this. I was at the opening night, Monday night, I do the Panini Kid Reporter every year and take the kid around and he asks cool questions and, you know, sitting there with Patrick and he's talking about finding ways to win.

I think the longer you play this position, the more value you put on just finding ways to win. Everybody does it different. People have different skill sets. I've said forever, quarterbacks like ice creams. They're all awesome. It's depending on what flavor is your flavor that you like the most. It's the guy you're probably going to go, he's better than him. He's the athletic guy, I like athletic. Or he's the heady guy, I like heady. But at the end of the day, these guys just trying to learn how to win because their stats don't matter at some point.

Their touchdown passes don't matter at some point. Where they stand, the record book still doesn't matter. It's how many games can I win? How many championships can I win before my time is up playing the position? Both of them talk about it so much. You know, like both of them are just obsessed with finding ways to get the team that they have in that particular year, finding a way for that team to win the championship. And Tom did it more often than Patrick has. Now, Patrick has more years and you said that. But I call Tom the greatest because he found

And you said that. But I call Tom the greatest because he found the ability to win championships with a bunch of different types of teams over a long, long period of time. And I've, I always said, I didn't think we'd ever see anybody do it again. But every time I see Patrick lace it up the beginning of the year, I'm like, man, he may just do it because he's that kind of brilliant. But at the end of the day, the brilliance is in the winning. The brilliance isn't in the skill set or all the things we talk about what they do better than everybody else. It's that they find a way to win more often than the next guy. I want to get back to the prep part of it. Because I mean, should any of this surprise Kansas City last night?

No, I don't think it should. I think that they're probably very concerned leading up to this game, especially offensively. We all know the challenges each week as you study an opponent over and over and over. You have two things working. You have the you have the good angel and the bad angel on your shoulder. You have the skeptic and the optimist. You're trying to let the optimist win all the time. We could do this to counter that, and we have this tool. If I do this, we can take advantage of that. They're vulnerable here. If we get the right situation and the right look, we'll take advantage of it there. That's the optimist. That's the good angel. But then you have the skeptic, the evil, the evil demon on your shoulder saying,

yeah, but they're just, they're gonna kill your tackle. Like you're only have two seconds to throw it. This is a one hitch game. They got eyeballs on you. They don't have to play man against you. There's not, the windows aren't gonna be as big. We can't run the ball. The action game's not gonna be as good

because we're have a hard time running the football. Those are all the things that were going through Kansas City's mind. And I bet the longer the prep went into this, the more the skeptic, the demon was winning. Like, this is going to be really, really hard. Oh, we need our defense to play really good. Okay, here's how we can win this game. Let's win the end of the first half. Let's get this thing in the fourth quarter, and we'll do what we do and win the last drive in the fourth quarter. We'll get the ball last. But that's only if our special teams and defense plays great.

Because they knew that there's no way they didn't know if we get behind by two scores in this game that this isn't going to be nearly impossible. Because you just couldn't play balanced against this team two scores down. You're going to have to lead with the pass. And all your quick answers. You know, a lot of the ways that Kinsley beats people that have good pass rushes is that they'll play man with it, or they'll play more of a true, true stickier zone, like a three match, where it's one high safety and they're matching things underneath, meaning sticking to things underneath, but only one safety.

When they have all those flat throws, you get all the quick throws, you get all the little, okay, you rushed me, but I got the ball out. That's harder to do when there's cloud corners and there's more eyeballs looking on, seeing those split safety looks. So they took all the quick throws too. So it's not only that we can't throw the ball, but we can't use quick game as a form of running the ball. Oh, we'll try to throw screens, right? Cause that's an Andy Reid special. That's any West coast guys answer to hard pass rushes and throw a lot of screens. Well, one of the first plays of the game is a screen and the defensive end just runs right through the screen

and disrupts it. So now I feel weird calling screens. Oh, okay, we'll call it line of scrimmage screen. They call it line of scrimmage screen, and Philly's defensive, their secondary, just blows all the blockers up and tackles the guy. So as a play caller, you're like, ah, screens aren't working, draws aren't working that much,

quick game's not working, this is gonna be brutal. Where is Jalen Hurts for you as far as a development story at that position? I love the kid, I've always been bullish on him. I hate that I told you so, I'll give a little I told you so. We had him at the Elite 11, and to this day, he's probably the most dominant leader we've ever had as a 17-year-old kid. You knew he's going to be there. CEO of a multi-billion dollar company. He was going to win multiple

championships. He was going to be a difference maker. The kid is a unique, unique leader. Now, Alex Mortensen is my offensive offense coordinator who coached him at Alabama. The depth of the stories goes even deeper because now I have somebody in my building that can tell you the behind the scenes. He knows who he is. He's not trying to be anybody else but a winner. He knows that his running is a valuable part of how he gets the pictures he wants in the passing game. Is he the most accurate guy in the NFL? No, but he's accurate

enough. He's always been accurate in big moments. You know, he finds a way to create time and space for himself, which is the hardest thing for defenses to adjust to is when there's more time that the quarterback has the football in his hand, there creates more space. So it creates time and space for himself as a player. He's not traditional, but he's effective. The guy's just won at every level and will continue to win. So I know he's not everybody's favorite form of ice cream, but if winning is your favorite favorite form of ice cream,

you know, the analogy, the metaphor on quarterback's been ice cream flavors, then he should probably be your favorite flavor because he's gonna continue to win in a high clip. Before we let you go, I know it's a tough year, the UAB for you and the criticism and knowing you as well as I do, I can't imagine anyone was harder on you than you have been on yourself.

How are you feeling right now? How is everything getting ready, gearing up for another off season here and going into your third year? I appreciate the way you asked the question, because you're right, it's been brutal. I mean, just. I'm not laughing, I'm chucking. It's been brutal. I mean, just. I'm not laughing. I'm chuckle. No, you can.

I chuckle. I mean, it's brutal. No, I'm not laughing at you. I know you, and to hear you say it that way, I chuckle. Oh, I mean, losing is just awful as a competitor. The joke, and my wife rolls her eyes every time, but your food doesn't taste good. You don't like your kids. She's not nearly as hot.

It just makes everything suck. But what I've grown and I've learned so much from this that you gotta find a way, number one, because you are what your record says you are. So there are zero excuses. We are four and eight, three and nine over two years because I haven't done the job that I need to do. But then there's this flip in me that I've really grown. I'm 52, almost 53, and I've never loved the battle more. Like in the midst of the suck. I just love this battle. I mean mean I wake up Ryan with the hair on my arm standing up like Okay, I got this battle feels impossible

you know, I feel like it's David verse Goliath and I'm energized by it and I've built now a building where now we're all energized by it. And I understand, you know, I remember when I took the high school job and I was talking to Parcells, this is one of my favorite stories I tell, I called Bill up as I'm driving through Arkansas to take this job in Nashville. He's laughing at me because I'm coaching high school football. I said, Bill, just give me one piece of advice. He goes, fire everybody. I said, what? He goes, fire everybody. Like if you can fire the president, fire the president, fire the head at school, just fire everybody and start clean. I'm like, Bill, these are high school people.

Like, you can't do that. But I understand why he was saying that, because you need to start clean. Like, it needs to be everybody lockstep, single mindedness on the same thing. And my first two years, I didn't have that. I did some really, and it made some mistakes off of jump that ended up costing us. And now the correction has been, I truly have a building where everybody wakes up

like I do at five in the morning with their hair on the arm, standing up, excited about the challenge, excited about the battle. And I think that gives us a puncher's chance to turn this thing around. Well, I know you and I know your mindset. And I know that there's not going to exactly be any time off for you to get up to it. But thank you for taking 30 minutes with us and we'll do it again before the start of the season, okay? Anytime, Ryan. I love doing this and I miss you, my friend, and this is always fun to do.

It's great to see you, Trent. See you, buddy. You want details? Fine. I drive a Ferrari, 355 Cabriolet. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you can possibly imagine. And best of all kids, I am liquid. So now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required. Life advice, the email address is lifeadvicerr at gmail.com.

We are fresh off another weekend and also remind you with the upcoming disruption of the NBA slate we are going to do a Friday feedback for the YouTube page so hit us up with any feedback yeah Friday feedback are in the pot that's gonna run a Friday in the pod oh that's right so are we doing double whammy the author and Friday feedback or just running a Friday feedback on Friday author will be next week. Right. We did a Henry the fifth, Dan Jones, big Henry the fifth kick right now.

Uh, if you guys have any questions about him off here, just let me know. I saw him on Bill Maher. We, we taped him first, but he did. Henry the fifth. No, no, no. Unfortunately he didn't make it, but now Dan Jones. Yes. He's very good. He's very good. He's like, uh, the real fall staff, you know, not, no. Unfortunately, he didn't make it, but no. Dan Jones. Yes, he's very good. He's very good. He's like a- I just want to know the real fall staff, you know? Not all that propaganda stuff.

Yeah. No, that's always been your approach to things. Let me cut through the mess to get to the root of it all. Yeah, that author's got some real like alternative Saruti vibes. Like if Saruti were still single, maybe tats, maybe a sleeve, maybe down on his hand. He's got two hand tats I saw. Yeah. He's got some hand tats. I can't pull that off.

That's. He's British too, right? So that, that kind of helps. He can kind of do it. Totally helps. I'm kidding. Cause as soon as he pulled up the zoom, I was like, check out this dude's deal. Is this the wrong Brandon Marshall?

Is this right? Oh no. By the way, shout out to Brandon Marshall, the one we had on. Yeah. Big news for him. Opened a restaurant up in Vegas. I think it's... Hattie B's. That's a big, big joy. Yeah. Congrats. Maybe we'll have Monaghan to promote it. All right. We had a, we had a followup on the nuggets player. I don't know how that email rolled out the way that it did, but he hit us back up.

Um, and he was not upset with, with our advice, but the profile of the player is much bigger, like huge in comparison to kind of some of the guesses that we were making. So I think it changes the dynamic a little. And it's also pretty understandable why the guy he may be like, there might be people that are just impenetrable as far as like, they're just so sick of it. All of it. They're never going to do it for you. Does that make sense? Makes sense. Think so. Yeah. That're never going to do it for you. Does that make sense? Makes sense. I think so.

Yeah. That's like one of like three people then. Yep. Michael border, Jr. Just making a knob. Just kidding. It wasn't him because we did. We did bring him up at some point. All right.

All right. Sweet Merchant stolen Valor. I like this one. It's a little different five seven currently down from five eight. When I was on the dating apps many years ago, no impressive gym stats to speak of. Sweet Merch or Stolen Valor, I like this one. It's a little different. Five-seven, currently down from five-eight. When I was on the dating apps many years ago. No impressive gym stats to speak of. I just resumed the gym after a long break.

All right, good for you. The reason for my long breaks is because back in the summer, my brother and I quit our jobs, bought a camper, drove the Alaska highway, and hunted and fished our way through Alaska for a few months. It was incredible.

That does sound incredible. Hell yeah, brother. You guys, you ever get the urge, you just pack it all up and drive to Alaska? I don't know about Alaska. Watch that Homestead Rescue too much. It's like, man, this is not for me. Do you guys have like the Into the Wild?

Like you read the book, you know, maybe watched the movie, you're like, ah, you know, that's, you know, I know the ending, but maybe it'd be different for me this time. I love that book. Love that book. But, you know, did I want to go full McCandless? No, there was, there was never a point.

I think there is something about man though, you know, I'm shocked by that for you. I feel like you'd want to test yourself to be like, can I live in the wild? Well, back then I didn't have a lot. So I probably, like anytime I ever let my mind wander on that kind of stuff, I just like my stuff now too much. So I'm totally honest about who I am and who I'm not. If you don't cold punch in the morning,

you can't even start your day at this point, right? Yeah. Although look, nature's cold punch, you know, Alaska. So I do. Many people are saying, yeah, I think they have a bumper sticker that says that or something, but I, um, yeah, I think the testing yourself thing I've, I've thought about, I think I was even looking into something a couple of years ago, but then whenever you like Google that

kind of stuff, it's like, Oh, I just show up to the beach and get yelled at by like retired Marines for 10 grand. Just shiver next to Bob, you know, from Home Depot. I don't fucking do that. You know, you're nothing. I know. No, I'm not. I'm in my forties.

Things have gone well. Fuck off. Like I'm just, I get a towel, you know? So I don't, I don't think I necessarily need that to sharpen the edges, but I think if there was something else that I was looking into for a while, then I was kind of like, who the fuck are you kidding? You're not, you're not this guy.

So. I will say, I was watching Deal or No Deal Island, great show, total twist on Deal or No Deal. And I actually, after like near the end of the first season, I saw a thing at the end, it's like, do you want to be on Deal or No Deal Island? I was like, yes, I do. And as I was filling out the thing,

didn't actually push it, push the button on that. I was like, you know who I'd love to see on Deal or No Deal Island? It's definitely Ryan. It's like, that would be perfect. Cause there's a couple of physical challenges. You're like in like a hut sort of on the beach.

They make it seem like you're roughing it, but the huts are super nice. Um, just, just the thought I had. I'd like to be able to say I could, I could rough it because I think I could have there for a while. When you don't have anything nice and you live in a dump, you know, you're just like, I sort of am roughing it right now with utilities.

But, uh, I don't know. I just always kind of think about like the motivation of, like, I think it's great. I think like to this email that we'll get to maybe tomorrow, but I love, I love just saying, Hey, I want to do this. And I think there's a lot of guys walking around being like, Hey, I'd love to do this. And then they never ever do it. And it's a bit like when we give the advice of going after the career that you really want, it's like, well, why not try it? It's been like trying and, and it

not working out at least later on in life, you'll be able to say to yourself, well, I gave it a real shot. Maybe it's disappointing, but I think it'd be far more disappointing to like go through life being like, I never gave myself a chance. I never once had a, and look, sometimes people's lives are disrupted in ways that ultimately change what your priorities have to be. And those, those opportunities just never be there for you. But whenever I think like even the American, the Alaskan homestead thing, the first thing I think about with those shows is how weird the kid will be, which may entirely be unfair, you know, but like if a kid ends up

in college somewhere and you're like, dude, Longfellow is like fucking weird. Like dude, he grew up. He grew up. Got him some slack. Yeah. See what Bear did at the party last night? Yeah. Dude, Longfellow's like fucking weird. Like dude, he grew up. He grew up. Cut him through slack, yeah. See what Bear did at the party last night? Yeah. Like Kodiak was asking if we had any girls to introduce him to.

We were like, man, you wear a sarong, dude. You know, just a weird conversation starter. So anyway, good for these guys. Let's get back to the email. Soon after departing, I realized that perhaps I should have packed a few more t-shirts. So we stopped in a small town in remote Alaska to prospect for sweet merch and we struck gold. This remote Alaska thrift store was incredible.

T-shirts were buck 50 and we found the entire TVD box set of suits. Well, it was too soon for me. $3 a disc, good insane value. Shout out to a friend of the program, Megan Markel. Yeah, that's the connection we had already made. It was exactly what we needed to fuel our trip. Here's the problem I present to you today.

One of the sweet teas that I was thrifted, that I thrifted was formally in the service of the local EMS unit. The t-shirt says Copper River EMS in bold gold lettering on a field of Navy blue fabric. It's a very cool shirt. It fits well. It has immense sentimental value because it reminds me of an amazing time I spent with my brother, but I don't want to steal valor.

I have immense respect for troops, first responders, teachers, plumbers, everyone that keeps America going forward and I don't want to steal valor, nor do I want to be mistaken for someone who is EMS if I'm around when an emergency happens? What would you do? Wear the shirt with no restrictions, only wear it to the gym perhaps or other restricted use. Never wear the shirt. Thanks. Pics of the shirt and trip attached. It's a nice shirt and it is so gold and blue just the way you would think. It's this Copper River, EMS Alaska. Well, I think I'm going to say this is a go to wear this shirt all the time, because there's a really good chance if an emergency were to happen and then they're like, Oh, there's an email, you know, like Clark Kent doesn't always have the Superman outfit on. Right. And then on top of that, when it says Copper River, Alaska, you just feel like, Hey is a souvenir. Sorry, I can't help.

I would call somebody else. I don't think, you know, it's not like you're in full uniform here. So I think you're good. Kyle? Yeah. I don't know where the line is, but I mean, I think this is on the correct side of the line. I mean, think about just anybody who has like an uncle or a dad who's a firefighter, like

they have one of their fire department shirts on and they wear them and fire department shirts are cool. So I think the odds are pretty low that you'd even have to go through this whole fumbling explanation about how you're not actually prepared to give CPR or whatever. You're not up to date on whatever needs to be done. So I think that's totally fine. It's not like you're wearing fatigues or whatever, which I did when I was a young boy

at the Stormville Flea Market. I just, there was just a guy with, you know, mismatched hanger selling those camo jackets, had some guy's name on it. I just bought it and my mom was like, what the hell? She said, I like wandered off for a little bit. I came back, she's like, you can't wear that. I did wear it for a little bit, but I was you know Probably a middle school so nobody thought I served or anything, but I all that to say I think

EMS and fire department shirts are totally on the correct side of the line Yeah, I'm with it Yeah, I think so you think you think no on the fire department I think yeah, I feel like those are like everybody wears fire department shirts I don't know and like I don't necessarily think everybody that wears a fire department shirt is in the fire department. I think you take a look and you're like that guy doesn't have the you know fire department look. I think it's yeah yeah but fire department staff shirt versus just the fire department shirt right? Like it doesn't have to say

staff on it I guess but I but I mean, you just see like, you know, Pleasant Valley fire department or Poughkeepsie fire department. I'm, you know, maybe that guy, usually like FDNY, you're like, Oh, that's a cool shirt. Everyone wants that shirt. So the chance that it's somebody's uncle or their dad or whatever, or like FBI female body inspector, you're like, I don't think that guy's an agent. Yeah, probably not.

Yeah. I think the stolen valor thing to me is like, one, you're not really directly lying about it. You're not trying to impersonate someone. You're just wearing a cool t-shirt. And two, to Kyle's point, if you were wearing, yeah, like fatigues or if you were wearing scrubs for no reason, like that's more of a like,

I think you were a medical professional or like somewhat important. Like if you're just wearing a t-shirt, I don't think, I just don't think it's like, oh man, that guy, he must be important because he's wearing like a vintage fire department t-shirt or whatever. I think it's fine.

I don't think there's anything to worry about, but it's good that you have the self-awareness thing. Yeah, you got a good brain in there that lets you think about this stuff. Some guys never think about this stuff. Yeah, I mean, if you had like a defibrillator and then you were like, oh my God, and you're like, no, it's my tackle box.

Yeah. Yeah. That would be dangerous. Cause then people would be like, I'm safe, but you're actually not safe. Yeah, I think you're good, dude. I wouldn't worry about it. Okay.

This guy, we've got, all right, this one's a little different. He gives us his name. We'll just leave your name out on behalf of you. 50 years old, six foot 190, comp Bill Simmons. Been a listener since the SVP days, back to at least 2011, that's probably 3,000 plus hours. And I get psyched when a new episode comes up. Well, here you go, man.

We're reading your email. Before I hit you with my dilemma, I want to say that life advice has become my favorite segment It's fun, but also your answers are eerily spot-on. I'm in the emotional care counseling space and I wish I could be this direct my clients Well, the difference is we're not looking at anybody so Be nice to yourself. Yeah, we're not wearing like t-shirts. Yeah, say, you know Good job, here's my issue lived in Nashville since the late 90s moved You know, health services. Holy shit, buddy.

Good job. Here's my issue. Lived in Nashville since the late nineties, moved, uh, to Irvine from 2014 to 21. And I loved it. It's a lot of personal details here, but I think, I think this is not that weird of a thing, so I think we're all right. I spent as much time as possible in the sun and it made a huge difference in how I felt when I moved back here. I started going to the tan possible in the sun and it made a huge difference in how I felt. When I moved back here, I started going to the tanning bed

just to get a little of the California feeling. Even if it's manufactured, when people ask me about my tan, I just deflect with something like, yeah, I've been outside a lot, or I've been driving with the top down. Talk about some other story. Yeah, I know.

Is this more egregious than the MS? Sure. I love that he's just tan all the time and anybody's, yeah, just been outside a lot. It's been raining for two weeks, sir. All right. There's some other story to keep them from judging me. For some reason, people really look down on the whole tanning thing. I've also wanted to lose weight last year, so I took a GLP-1 to jumpstart it. I ended up losing 50 pounds and feel a lot better. Damn dude.

But there's a stigma with that too. So I've been lying about it as well. I hate dodging this stuff, but now I've sort of kept it all long, kept it up long enough that I'm stuck. Plus my wife is really pretty and I want to at least keep up with the stuff I can control. So you think I just dropped the charade and own it or keep lying until the newness wears off and people stop asking about it? I think I know what you'll say,

but thought I'd ask anyway, because you three will actually think this through rather than say, dude, just stop with the pretending because there's actually a real risk of losing some friendships with the weight loss stuff. P.S. We're longtime friends of the Dilfers and a fan of the show. I'm a fan of the show. I'm a fan of the show. I'm a fan of the show. I'm a fan of the show. I'm a fan of the show. I'm a fan of the show. I'm a fan of the show. I'm a fan of the show.

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is, what, like your wife's not gonna leave you if you stop tanning, right? Or if she were, doesn't that answer the question? Which again, I don't think is what you're saying here. You've dropped 50 pounds. You should be happy about that. So maybe if you were to say, look, I'm down 50, but I'm going to start being pale or deal with it, I don't know. I mean, could you wean yourself off of it a little bit?

Could you just slowly tan a little bit less and less and less so it's not some abrupt change where all of a sudden, you look like a completely different person. There's also a part of this too, is like, who cares? You're the tanning guy. You're the guy that tans. There has to be somebody that does it and you're him. And that's fine.

I mean, I wouldn't really give a shit. I know personally, like, would you be less likely if you had met this guy in a new town? Be like, seems like a good guy, but what's with the tanning thing? Yeah, that's probably true. That would probably happen. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of like nodding his head. I have so many thoughts on this. Uh, it's kind of like you and like the respecting cigarette smokers thing. Like tanning is like widely accepted. It's just like, you should do it. It's not good for you. Like it's,

it's just not healthy. Obviously there's the cancer aspect, but like when I was in high school like dudes girls everybody was tanning like people had like monthly subscriptions to the tanning pad Sir, you were tanning. I was not tanning but people did dudes coming obviously was more the dude, but they were guys laundry man That was the Jersey Shore. Yeah, you're from Connecticut. You're not from not that far off I'm telling like yeah, there were there were definitely guys like the Guido guys Oh my god, come on, middle of winter. And I will say, bunch of poly D's running around. I hate the sun cream in their hair.

We can talk as the bird flies, A to B, Connecticut's not that far away from Jersey. The Jersey thing for the most part is a completely different experience. It is, I'm not saying it's not, but there's a little bit of crossover. There's a lot of Italians in Connecticut, there's a lot of people that like,'m not saying it's not, but it's, it, there are, there's, there's a little bit of crossover, there's a lot of Italians and some culture sharing, a lot of people that like, yeah, like it's not.

And the show was probably pretty hot, right? When you were around high school. It was very hot high school and college. And so I was not one of those people. I like J-Wow. Go ahead. You would like J-Wow. Um, Ronnie was misunderstood.

Ronnie, Ronnie was good. I'm just kidding. No, Ronnie, I liked Ronnie. Um, kind of an asshole. Sammy sweetheart was probably the most reasonable of all. No Ronnie I like Ronnie. What? Kind of an asshole. Sammy Sweetheart was probably the most reasonable of all. Oh wait wait wait. No Ronnie I thought her name was Ronnie. Ronnie was no Ronnie was like the shortest. Sammy was Sammy was brutal. Sammy was brutal. Of all the girls I feel like Sammy was like the most level-headed. You think so? Hey yeah I think so. I don't

know. I don't know. There was a lot of trauma for me. I was like, they're fighting all the time. J.Y. and Snooki were, I think, but we're a little bit more on the crazy scale. I like that Snooki started like such a massive deficit and then worked her way back to like everybody gutter and liked her. Yeah. It's good to see that redemption in our story. But anyway, circling back, I just got back from Mexico. For the record, I just got back from Mexico. Um, for the record, I liked Ronnie now that I think about it. Yeah. Okay. Good. Yeah. Ronnie. Yeah. No, I don't know why I thought the girl's name was Ronnie. It's been a while since I've watched the show, which isn't a bad thing. To be honest with you. Go ahead. I just got back from Mexico. I'm not a tanner. I don't tan. I've been, I've been known to be pretty pale, uh,

for a while now. My nickname has been Twilight for a few years there. Thanks to Kyle and cow herd. You just feel better. You weren't sleeping a lot. Well, yeah, I was, that's a true story. I worked, started working on Mike and Mike, and I literally just became vitamin D deficient and started having to take in supplements. So there's actual medical concern there, but, but you would have had a reason. You're a gamer dude. That's crazy. Why don't, why doesn't this guy do that? Say, Hey, this is a medical thing.

You could, cause I say all that to say that like you just do feel better. You feel better. You look better. It's like the old, um, it's like the old Deion Sanders thing. Like you, what is it? You, you look good, you play good, you play good, you get paid good. Like when you are tan, you just feel, I talk about this with my wife all the time. You, you feel better about yourself. He's a hundred percent right. All those things Like whatever the, whatever the like endorphins or whatever, your, your, your body, like everything about you, you just feel good when you're tan and when, when your face hits the sun. So, I mean, I kind of don't blame our guy and if that, if that makes him feel good, I mean, certainly take all the precautions,

but there is really something to like being happy when you are more tan and see the sun. So I kind of can't blame our guy here. Yeah, the people that he's worried about, you know, and hypothetically noticing or talking about it, like they probably wouldn't be super jazz for you if you just lost 50 pounds the old fashioned way, or, you know, like they definitely have more of a reason to bring it up or whatever,

but those are the people that you're worried about probably are dudes that would have been happier, happy for you if you did this stuff through different mediums. It's almost like everyone who sees somebody doing a selfie video out in the world, it's like, they're just like, look at that guy doing something extra. He's just doing something extra. That's how they're looking at you

booking an appointment at this tanning salon and using that thing instead of just working out all the time and not eating anything. I just think people look at it through this lens of, oh, it's just extra. Look at that, I'm not doing anything like that. Meanwhile, they're probably fat and pale and that plays into it as well. I think Serenity Nailed on something I think is the most

important as you navigate through all of this. This is something that you do that makes you feel good. It makes you feel better and when you look in the mirror, you feel better about what you see, which is a really difficult thing for a lot of people. All right. Even the hottest people out there are going to have a day where like, what's going on there. Right. So if this makes you feel good and you're not really doing anything wrong, like in this case, you're not doing anything wrong to anybody else. Like this is your deal. Right.

You're buying nothing about, yeah, this is nothing, nothing about this impacts literally any other person. Now, sure. We'll probably have some medical experts tell us that tanning is this, this and this. And if this guy's, you know, because we said it closer to George Hamilton, then

maybe that's not the best long-term thing, whatever. But there's also probably part of this too, man, where if you were based on the picture of 50 pounds over the picture that you sent us, like, you know, good looking guy, 50 years old, got it going on. Um, hottest guy we've ever had to email the show. No, but this guy's a good looking guy. And, um, you know, at 50 pounds, you probably went through some, some tough stuff there where you didn't feel great

about yourself. So now you're doing something that doesn't really impact anybody else. It makes you feel better about yourself. And I think that that's really important. I think if you had the ultimate confidence with this thing, you would stop lying about it. You're like, I tan, I love to tan, man. That's kind of my thing.

And I've got a 20% off referral coupon here for you. Just high five, just own this in such an aggressive way that it becomes kind of funny. Now, most people can't really ever do that. I'm not even saying that I could, but just get in front of the awkwardness. Like, man, you're tan. You're tan. Love it.

Tanning all the time. It's kind of my thing. And then just laugh, like just own it with that other person. And then what can they really say? Like, oh, what's this guy? You know, in the nineties? Yeah, it's me. I love the nineties.

Great music, good movies, a lot of indie stuff. Also his explanation was good, where he was like, dude, I was in, you know, sunny California for six years and I fucking miss it. It's not, it's not like that's less than you being like, man, I just love when people see me this color. It's more like, dude, I just miss being outside and, and, you know, and I miss all that sun, so like, this is just something I'm doing while I figure out.

You know, the explanation isn't as bad as just like, you know, I'm so vain, even though that might be the truth. Cause you maybe just take it from like a, you know, a seven on the toaster scale to like a four or five range, you know, go from well done to just medium. Like maybe that just like a slight change and then everybody else to kind of get off your back. Because if you're like, if you're crispy looking that we've all seen those like leather looking people and you're like, whoa, like that's a little aggressive.

Yeah, the cocktail might just be a little too strong. I think I keep thinking about that. I don't know if it was, I think you should leave. It was one of those sketch shows where it's like, do you wear a toupee and you don't want to go full ball, but you're tired of this? Here's our 160 day package where you just have like a little less hair every day that you're putting on.

Maybe you just gradually bring it down a little bit. It's been real cloudy lately. Yeah, I thought about that. Cause somebody, what was it? One of the hotel lobbies and somebody made fun of Andrew Whitworth and I cause of our hair. And I was like, that's fucking ballsy. Met you 10 seconds ago.

In 2025, come on, we're gonna be done. Yeah. And then I thought about what it'd be easier if I did the think you should leave package, but 160 days, like I've definitely skipped some days that people would notice. Did he just jump from Monday's package? Some guys make it funny. It's not like he's talking about the bagel boss here.

Like those are some big dudes. That's weird. I don't look big next to Whitworth. That's for sure. Maybe it was more directed at you than Whitworth. Yeah, I think it was. Whitworth, that's for sure. Maybe it was more directed at you than Whitworth. Yeah, I think it was.

A guy on the right. You know what, I'll tell you right now though, I liked the guy. I liked the guy. So I was like, okay. And then Whitworth and I kind of looked at each other like, are we being made fun of right now? I was like, yeah, I think we are.

I think we are being made fun of. Like, yeah. Anyway, yeah, I think we solved this guy's life. All right, you're welcome. Thank you. Thank you for everything. Also, let's make sure Friday Feedback, one more time. Fridayfeedback, rr at gmail.com.

Does everybody feel fulfilled? Go ahead. Tape in Wednesday, so get it in early. Tape in Wednesday? Good note, Wednesday. Yeah, no, because a lot of people sitting around being like on Thursday going, Go ahead. Tape in Wednesday. So get it in early tape tape. And when it's good note Wednesday. Yeah. No. Cause a lot of people sitting around being like on Thursday going, Oh my God, I only have a day left.

Before I can get this email in. Uh, that'll do it for the show today. And I guess, yeah, I think we already went through like when Bill and I were doing, I don't need to repeat all that stuff again. So thanks to Morgan. Thanks to Kyle and to Saruti. Check us out on YouTube. I think the Friday feedback will be up on that as well. Okay. And please subscribe to the podcast for your Spotify. Must be 21 and older. Present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 plus and present in DC gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit rg-help.com.

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