The Ryen Russillo Podcast - First Round QB Bust Rate Update, Plus, Diggs Fallout and an NFL QB Tiers Preview With Mike Sando.

Episode Date: April 4, 2024

Russillo begins with his first-round QB bust rankings (0:35). Then, The Athletic’s Mike Sando comes on to discuss the Stefon Diggs trade, break down the rest of the NFL offseason, and share some insight on his QB tiers (13:41). Plus, Ceruti and Kyle join for a Final Four Alliance pick (58:32) and Life Advice (61:27)! Is it possible to reintegrate a friend who got out of prison into our group? Check us out on Youtube for exclusive clips, live streams, and more at https://www.youtube.com/@RyenRussilloPodcast The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out rg-help.com to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Host: Ryen Russillo Guest: Mike Sando Producers: Steve Ceruti, Kyle Crichton, and Mike Wargon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On today's episode, we're doing a ton of NFL. I update the yearly first round busts and get into the sit start debate as we get ready for the NFL draft. More importantly, though, we got Mike Sando, who does an incredible recap on the athletic from all NFL sources, coaches, executives on who had the best and worst free agency periods. So we'll get into that. And we've got life advice. It's the Ryan Russo podcast presented by FanDuel. Take a shot at betting the NBA with FanDuel, America's number one sports book right now. You can check out the new and improved parlay hub filter by odds, sport and bet type to easily find the most popular parlays and same-game parlays all on one page. Plus, start betting the Explore page and the Pulse and bet live same-game parlays for every NBA game.

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We got McShay coming up a bunch more. May even do some kind of draft recap. Off schedule bonus stuff for you. So get ready for it. So what we are getting ready for, We got McShay coming up a bunch more. May even do some kind of draft recap off schedule bonus stuff for you. So get ready for it. So what we are getting ready for, if you look at the latest mock projections, it's pretty much five quarterbacks

that are going in the first round. And history tells us, as I like to update this, time to time, usually once thoroughly a year, history tells us two, probably three, are not gonna be the guy. Maybe the fans, local media, more so the national media will keep lying to themselves or maybe it'll be a guy I really like and I'll keep lying to myself year three because you're like, yeah, this isn't really working out. But you can just blame the coaches. You can blame the system. You can blame the weapons.

An offensive coordinator is 100% getting fired if we're still uncertain about the first round pick after year two or year three. And it's going to suck. It's going to suck when your team takes the guy this April and then you're sitting there after the 25 season going, ah, I'm worried. Might've gotten this one wrong. And it's because it does suck. It'll suck to go through that. Right.

Uh, think about the NFL teams, all the work that they put into this, all the prep, all the film breakdown, all the phone calls, the high school coaches, the college coaches, did you date this guy in sixth grade? What was he like? The analytics staff that's telling you this is the guy, not the other guy, right? All of the TV shows where they are talking up somebody right now or podcasts that are talking up a first round pick. We are all doing this. We are collectively talking up two guys

that likely are going to be terrible. Maybe this is the year we get lucky, go five for five. We've had some good years in the past. I don't know if it's gonna be this year's class. It seems impossible to think that Caleb Williams, can imagine if he's not good be this year's class. It seems impossible to think that Caleb Williams. Imagine if he's not good. I would be surprised if Caleb Williams was not good, but just like all these other quarterbacks,

it wasn't even like a top 10 guy. The number one guys are like, yep, nope. Not the guy. And they picked him. Number one. So let's update the first rounder since the 2000 draft. It's 66 quarterbacks selected. I used a very scientific method

about my classifications for the categories. It was this, the yeses, the nos, and the question marks. I didn't use any stats,. I just didn't want to. I think most of us could just figure this out. Is that guy? Yes. Is that guy a no? Is that guy question mark?

I'm not going to list all of them because I might get a little boring. Uh, and I was fair. I was probably too nice about it just to avoid trying to confirm my own theories here. Here are the question marks by the way, Vince young, some of you that loved him will say, no, he's fine. I don't know about that. Like he was, it was over after like five years, Sam Bradford hurt. I thought he was actually okay when he played, but he was hurt.

There's always the injury ones, not necessarily the same as Greg Oden, but like, I just don't like calling Greg Oden a bus because I think he was actually a bit really good. RG three incredible when he burst onto the scene, fell off quick, never caught on anywhere else. I think some would argue it's a no, but he was so good in that first year. I don't know.

Blake Boros, he's probably a no. And then it's still too soon with Kyler, Daniel Jones, and Tua. Although I would say two of the three, and you can pick whatever two or three you want, are trending in the no direction. During the research, let's share some research highlights. Do you know that David Carr,

who got sacked a million times, received one rookie of the year vote? Clint Portis that year, by the way, did win rookie of the year, 1,500 yards, 17 total touchdowns. Somebody out us that year, by the way, did win rookie of the year 1500 yards, 17 total touchdowns. Somebody out there was like, now I'm giving my vote to David Carr. So I was looking up some of the NBA stuff. Somebody had Palo Bencaro third and rookie of the year last year, third. I think David Carr getting a vote maybe worse.

DeMarcus Russell, one of the all time flame outs at the position, to be the number one overall pick, okay, didn't play really his first year and then never signed with another team. Back when Van Pelt and I were on the air, I remember arguing with him because he's like, he's done. And I was like, no way. He's not like he's going to be on on another roster that guy's always on another roster they'll blame the Raiders to blame ownership they'll blame the coaching the culture the whole

thing like he's so talented someone else will give him a chance and that didn't even happen. Vant Pelt was right I was wrong and by the way I would stick to that argument for the next total flameout that's pick number one overall that's how rare a Jamarcus Russell story is a story that apparently you could see a documentary on his return to the NFL. I think I'm bleach report years ago. It goes so bad for him that John Lucas was helping him in Texas and then tried to get him to meet with Ozzie Newsome at some event and Newsome was like,

I didn't want to talk to him. And he did have tryouts for a bunch of different teams and everybody was like we're good. Tim Tebow 11 starts that season that felt like 100 starts 16 total starts. I put all three guys down as the nose. So is it getting worse? The 21 class I'm not cherry picking. I'm just repeating what we know as of right now. It's Trevor Lawrence who has an arrow down. My arrow is not down on Trevor Lawrence.

I think he's going to be fine. Zach Wilson, that's done. Trey Lance never even got started. Fields gone, Matt gone. So that's one for five with four when Zach Wilson is somewhere else that will be on different teams after three seasons. Fields gone, Matt gone. So that's one for five with four when Zach Wilson is somewhere else that will be on different teams after three seasons.

That's hard to do. Imagine if you said that right now, like, hey, welcome to draft night. I'm Mel Kuiper Jr. and five quarterbacks are projected to go in the first round and four of them are gonna be on new teams three years from now. The 22 class, we're already 0 for 1 on that.

Kenny Pickett was the only one picked. Remember that 23 preseason with Pickett? Come on, Steelers fans. Remember that? That was fun. It's a good time. So I'm just pointing out those two. The 20 draft looks pretty good. Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Love.

Maybe we got a four for four. So it can happen. There's also a more recent theory that because of the rookie scale contract that was put in place over 10 years ago, that that means because the quarterbacks are cheaper, that that means the people are more inclined to take them. So that means more quarterbacks means more first round busts. Yeah, I mean, that all makes sense. That's pretty simple math. If you break it into two parts, the first 12 drafts from 2000 on, 28 quarterbacks went in the first round. If you go the next 11 drafts, not including 2023, cause it's still early. Although it looks like we got a yes in Stroud and with Bryce Young, I'm just not going there yet.

But from 2000 on, it was 28 quarterbacks from 2012 to 22, that's 38 quarterbacks. And out of those 38 quarterbacks in the second half of the breakdown that I'm doing here, that's 16 yeses today. Some are still too early but that's 16 for 38. Now if I just named all the QBs it's just gonna be too long of a list but if we run through some of the yeses that maybe would be debatable I got Alex Smith as a yes I don't think there's much debate there. Jay Cutler still a yes. Ryan Tannehill is a yes Do you realize he's going to make 200 million,

I think, for his career, which is more than any non-quarterback as far as career earnings? I think that's right. I saw that today. Teddy Bridgewater, injuries, but I put him down as a yes. I also pronounced as yes. The rare golf, no, no, yes, doesn't happen a lot. Maybe Fields, right? Maybe Fields is a no yes. I don't think Mac Jones is going to be a no yes. I even put down Carson Wentz as a yes. So if I

wanted to be way more strict about it because I'm sure there's some of you listening to a couple of those names going you've got to be kidding me like you can't put Carson Wentz down as a yes. Well, I did. But if I wanted to be really nasty, if I wanted to make it say, 20 yeses, 19 yeses, and have it be almost 40 plus nos, I could have done that. Because if we looked at it this way, another category of the problem solved quarterbacks, the guys like Carson Palmer,

although even that one you could debate if you want to be a real pain in the ass about it, but I'm not going to. Eli, Ben, Rivers, Rogers, Matt Ryan, Flacco, Stafford. I even put Cam Newton down as the problem solved. Andrew Luck for the most part, even though that one's a little different. And then you know the rest of the names.

You don't need to sit here. I put Chad Pennington down as a yes, but not a problem solved yes. If you just go problem solved QBs, I had it at 19 for 68. Not good. Then there's my favorite one, the you should sit guys more often crowd.

Maybe you're right, but we still don't know. Okay. Because of every single Philip Rivers, Aaron Rogers, Mahomes argument, Jordan Love, no one ever brings up the quarterbacks that sat and also weren't good. Patrick Ramsey, Rex Grossman, who didn't start until his fourth year, basically like had one okay year with that awesome Bears defense. And we spent every single week trying to figure out if he was any good. He didn't start until his fourth year, basically like had one okay year with that awesome Bears defense. And we spent every single week trying to figure out if he was any good.

JP Lawson, Jamarcus Russell, he had one start his rookie year. Brady Quinn three starts his rookie year. Thibaut three starts his rookie year. Jake Locker, who I do think was gonna be good and had a great time with him at the Madden party in Dallas, Fort Worth. We get all caught in the snowstorm and people were being abandoned. Manziel two starts, Paxson Lynch

two starts, Trey Lance sat. No one ever brings those names up. And if you wanted to go even deeper into it, rounds two through seven, for every guy it's like, oh they groomed this dude the right way. They took care of it. They didn't rush anything to him. You want to know what the ratio would be on the quarterbacks that didn't work out for, that were non first round picks, that actually got all sorts of times to supposedly develop that you never even heard from. It'd probably be like a five to one ratio.

So maybe it's just what it is. I'm excited about the draft too. I can't wait. But if I was a fan of one of the teams with that pick and after the draft, like I don't know if I buy the jersey, you know, it depends on the age, it depends on my emotional commitment to the team at that time, but if I was hanging out with my boys

and it was like, yep, problem solved, I'd be the guy in the group going like, I don't know, based on all this information and all this history. Maybe it's like hitting a baseball, trying to get a hit. The success rate is like, yeah, if you could do it three out of 10 times, you're really, really good at your job. That seems like it wouldn't work if you were

a general manager interviewing for the position. What's your track record quarterbacks? Ah, about 40%. Where do I sit? Maybe it's like parenting. I know everyone's favorite topic that I delve into. Where you're like, where did that kid go? Like, oh, he went to all the prep schools,

famous from Dairy Ann, parents are awesome. They're great. Like, what's up with him? Kid's just a total shithead. They tried everything. Sucks. Or on the other side of it, like, what's up with her? Like, yeah, her parents both have like handicap passes

on their cars, but I think it's cause they're just tired a lot. And I think the dad retired cause he just couldn't keep up with the court shows during the day, but yeah, she's going to Bates. She's awesome. Full ride, academic full ride. You can say you have a plan.

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Mike Sando, the athletic, excited to have him. We'll be having him again. Once the quarterback tiers come out, I do have a tiers question in there for him, but I want to talk NFL free agency. He's does as good of a job as anybody getting just people from the league, from office execs, coaches, commenting on everything that's going on. And as of now, he has a big recap up on the athletic about free agency. So I want to get into all of that,

but let's start with the digs trade last night. It felt like it was running its course based on the emotion part of it with his brother basically saying like, get them out of there. Digs seems to become unhappy at multiple spots. So I get that part of it, but from a football needs standpoint, I know we're going to get into kind of the dead money and, and all the arguments that were happening last night. Like that I was leading, I was spearheading those on, on our favorite app.

What do you think motivated Buffalo's decision here? I think it's a combination of where they're at in their relationship with digs and the kind of where they're at as a team now, right? When they signed him to the extension two years ago, they probably thought that this window would be, they'd be right at the top in their window a little bit longer. But the way things have fallen through a combination of, you know, probably some injuries, their staff has changed,

the bill has kind of come due for them. So this off season for them has been more about pairing back and getting out of relationships with some of the tenured players that were on the team, the Jordan Coyers and those types of guys who gave a lot to the team, but they're really not part of the future at this point. So I think it wasn't just a given

that they would get rid of Stephon Diggs now because there are ramifications and we'll talk about those, but like for where they're at as a team and how much that has changed, even though they're still going to compete, they're going to probably make the playoffs and Josh Allen gives them a chance. It's like they're in this resetting period and decided, you know what, rather than spend 18 and a half million cash to maintain a relationship that, like you said, has run its course just like it did for digs in Minnesota. Let's get out now. Let's get something and, uh, you know, we'll take our lumps, but we still got until the start of the season also to, to, you know,

maybe draft a wide receiver, figure things out, just change the dynamic of our team. So do you think this means Buffalo? I mean, they have to, after losing both digs and Gabe Davis, they have to do something in the draft early. Oh yeah, you would think so. And that's, you know, I don't think Minnesota was in as extreme of a position, but remember at the time they traded digs and drafted Justin Jefferson. So that would be the dream scenario.

You get a great wide receiver that probably isn't going to happen to that extreme, but yes, they're going to happen to that extreme, but yes, they're going to have to do that. They may be in the later market too, whether there's a trade down the line or a veteran out there, OBJs out there, somebody like that that was good last year and just probably didn't live up to his pedigree. The perception of him might be that he didn't have as good of a year but he can still play. Let's talk about the money

part of this because I think there is some value in going well wait if this is your depth chart situation now here and you're taking on what is it 28 million as opposed to 31 to have kept him there was a lot of people on your side of the argument last night saying you don't understand because it's cash versus cap hit, where I think the football side of it, it's like, well, if I'm already paying for him, why is he not here? Right. Right. Well, and I think the third part of that is the relationship between the player and the team and is it tenable and for how long, right? And especially in this situation as the team resets a little, maybe they take their lumps a little bit, right? Maybe it's

not going to be as smooth of sailing we've already seen. So that component, if they felt like he was the consummate team guy who was going to do everything the right way and set the standard for their team, maybe they don't do this, but that's not where they're at in the relationship with him. So that's a huge component of it. The cap part that gets misunderstood, the part that I was trying to point out is 48 hours ago, he was counting 28 million against the cap. Now he's counting 31. And I agree, most people are like, oh my gosh, you're 31 for a player who's running the roster. I get it. But it's not like he was counting five million

against the cap and this decision pushed you up to 31, right? If you're the team and you're viewing that we're already in for the 28, that's not a new part of this thing. We're reevaluating our relationship with the player. And so once we decide that we're not, we want out and we're not doing this for the long term, we don't want to kick in another 18 and a half million cash this year and then have a bigger cap number for next year. The exit isn't that hard because all that happens is this cap charge goes from 28 to 31. So the trade itself cost them $3 million of cap space and saved them $18.5 million of money, of actual money.

So instead of putting ourselves in a pit- Of actual money, I think is the thing that always gets lost in this. Like you've reminded us the Kyler Murray stuff and you go, hey, they're operating differently than other owners. They've already paid Kyler that. And it's almost a sense of like,

hey, we've already actually given you the cash part of this. So we'd still like you to play the position because we're not just gonna eat it if we still have a question mark about your future. So the cash part of this, I think, always gets lost even more so than the cap. But there's always been a media fan fascination

with the cap and this desire to explain just how amazing it is that these teams manage this complex set of rules. And that's not really how it is for the teams. And that's just what I was trying to point out is once they're out on the player, they're taking three additional million to save 18 and a half. Put yourself in the owner's shoes. If you're like, you know what?

We've kind of had it. We can see what's coming. There's going to be some more issues here. What happens? We can talk about this from the Houston side. What happens when Justin Jefferson goes to $32 million a year? Is Stefan Diggs happy? Does he want to go a little more?

Not happy, I would imagine. He thinks he's as good, right? Of course. And he averaged about as good, right? Of course. And he averaged about half of his production for the second half of last year for whatever reason, maybe that was the coordinator change or whatever. But I think from the team standpoint, they're seeing the negatives,

they're seeing the positives and the negatives. And I think most people who, from the outside, see the positives, they see the stats, they see 107 catches, 1100 yards, eight touchdowns. The team is not gonna come out and say all the reasons why they don't want them on the team. They never are, right? But we have to be able to read between the lines on that

and see why this makes more sense from them than it does for the outside, especially where they're at in their build. And they're tearing it down a little bit right now. They're taking a step back. And asking yourself, hey, are we getting a second rounder next year? Like, no.

Right. So I think that part of it, even though, you know, I look at them and go, man, you're taking away a weapon. Where there were certain games I felt like Allen was like only looking for digs. Sure. Because it was the only guy that he trusted. But when we talk about the dead money,

this is more new NFL history here because I remember the Antonio Brown stuff that was going back to Pittsburgh and we had real plugged in people going, no one's ever taken that kind of dead cap hit. They're not going to do it. It's not going to happen. And then it just happens. And I was not one of those people because I understand the difference between what he's already counting and what he's going to count when you make the move. what he's already counting and what he's going to count when you make the move. If that's small, it's an easier move for the team to make when they've grown tired of the player, they don't want in the relationship. That disfavor, that part of not wanting them there for reasons that go beyond what he can

do in the field is a big component for teams. It was exactly why Antonio Brown got traded. It's not to the same degree, I don't think, for Fond Diggs, but we can all see that it hasn't been a happy relationship. And that's a huge part of it. And when you start factoring in the growth of the cap and the projections moving forward, it's just reality that the dead cap money doesn't sting the way that it used to sting. The cap has jumped almost 50 million in the last two years. The projections on the overcap this morning for 2027 are a $314

million salary cap number for NFL teams. I mean, who knows what that'll be, but that's the projection today. So I think it's just easier pill to swallow than it was in the past. But also think of this. We know they're saving the 18 and a half million and it helps their cap in 25. Let's just say that instead of, let's just say for the bills, instead of this counting 31, let's say it counted 18 and they saved cash. So what does that change for this year? Right now, big list of free agents to go sign for huge money and receive it? How would that be any different?

If they saved money, people would be like, Oh, Hey, and they saved this cap money. Who cares? It's April. What are we doing with the cap money? The good part about this is that we're touching on something that I want to explore deeper with you. And it is the history of signing free agents. It is comically bad.

Like it's so bad. Like whenever you're reminded, but we lose track of like, Oh, what did that guard sign for and that 29 year old defensive end and why did that middle line back or 33 get this number? So there's a very simple explanation of it. And I remember the first time like an NBA GM told me about it where, you know, I've shared this with other people, so I'm sharing it with you, but the audience has heard it. And he's like, you guys in the media are just morons about calf space in the NBA. Like just idiots.

I love it. It's like every one of you guys talk about like, oh, and they'll clear this much gap. It was like for who? For who? The guy, the team said they didn't want to sign or in the NBA, it's even worse where it's like, there's only like five of us that the guy will even pick if he's that good. And so if you're not one of those teams, like, what are you hoarding all this cap space for? Like if a guy scored 20 a game and his homegrown team doesn't wanna resign him, like that's all I need to know

that I don't wanna spend my cap space on him. So there is a winner's curse to all of this, but it's always going to happen. Like I don't wanna be completely dismissive of the process being like, well, no one should ever sign a free agent because the history is so bad and you have to ask yourself, why is he a free agent in the first place? So yeah.

And obviously in Dick's case, he was acquired by trade, but let's just say they really liked him and they thought, man, we cannot live without the 107 catches. They could extend them. They could do cash and give them some money and say, hey, we got a superstar receiver for the next three years, manageable cap. If you wanted to do that, that's not the evaluation they wanna do. And if they did that, we'd be going,

what are they doing? What? Well, I guess you can't say full off season. So which team got the most rave reviews from NFL insiders? Well, you're the insider, but people on the inside of the NFL. I think even for the teams that quote-unquote did well, there's mixed views on that, but I thought like a quiet team might be Arizona, that they didn't, they weren't

in the middle of that offensive line market, spending 20 million a year for a guard, but they got Jonah Williams, I think at $15 million a year for a starting offensive tackle, and they got a couple of pieces for their defensive line that were needed. Again, reasonable type of deals. You can see a long-term plan there. Now, that's not putting them over the top, but it seemed to fit really well, I think, with where they're at, what they're trying to do. It wasn't a big rush, yet they didn't do nothing. They didn't just sit there with this bad team. So that's one that's not going to get a ton of plaudits, but I thought it was pretty solid. Nat Fiskor-Hartley Pittsburgh's getting a lot of love.

David Morgan Yeah, that's probably another one. I mean, I guess the reviews were solid on Pittsburgh. I think a lot of people liked what they did. I still sort of wonder where it leaves you ultimately. Like, okay, what do they... I think they're going to go win 10 games this year. I think they, you know, maybe they win a playoff game. But does this fundamentally move them forward in a way that gets them out of where they've been? Probably not, but it's better than where they were. From that standpoint, even a team like Atlanta that gets a better quarterback gets some raves too because they're going to be better. They are going to be better. I think those two teams will win more games. What is the end game for Pittsburgh? Is it

Justin Fields developing and becoming the guy? Is it resigning Russell Wilson on a long-term deal? I wouldn't want to do that even if he had a good year. So they're better off. It was nice to do what they did without having to pay almost anything for it. So I agree. Nice for this year, but where are we going? That's why the praise I thought was interesting because it was just so

specific in a way that normally like, like, hey, what did they do? Like, obviously we all know what they did with the two quarterbacks. It's like, they got two of these guys for free. They have the options after a pre-season of expecting Pickett to be the guy. It's just what they pulled off is extremely rare.

So I think the praise was more specific to that than it was, hey, everyone they got rid of, that was smart, and everybody they brought in, that was smart. I think it was just because of that position, because that's just not something you would, you could never say, hey, let's do what Pittsburgh did three years ago. Right, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Get two guys for nothing. I mean, and part of this, you know, part of maneuvering in free agency or draft or anything is to take advantage when there's opportunities, when other teams are in a bad spot. Right. And so even from Houston's standpoint, right, I mean, they're taking advantage of the fact that Stefan Diggs is no longer wanted there. We can debate whether it was smart or, you know, it's the right thing to do. I like it for Houston, by the way. I'm a big proponent of if you have the young guy and there's a stud receiver out there, go for it.

And if there's something to do later on and figure it out, like I like, I understand it for Buffalo, but I also like it for Houston. I love what Houston did on paper. Um, but we'll see. I mean, I think there's a real temptation when somebody has a really good season and we saw how good CJ Shred was, uh was and they want a playoff game to think, wow, we're really close to winning it all. Let's go get Janil Hunter instead of Greenert, our guy, and pay him $5 million more a year on a shorter window. They signed some players that we've

heard of more than the guys that they got rid of, but they got rid of some homegrown type of guys that maybe weren't a lot worse. And then you add Stefan Diggs, and like I said, so this summer, let's just say big receiver deals get done. So what does Diggs want? What does he want in week four when the first three weeks, it just hasn't really clicked with CJ and CJ is going with his guys from last year? For whatever reason, Diggs just hasn't... They're two and one, they're three and oh, but it just hasn't clicked yet for Diggs just hasn't, they're two and one, they're three and oh, but it just hasn't clicked yet

for Diggs and now he's got a sore knee, right? Does it look good? I mean, you're going to see how this, but right now it's unbelievable. We just, we're already here and now we're adding someone to get us here, but you're already here, but you don't know where you're going to be necessarily, right? I mean, do you think that there's, do you think it's all upside with Diggs going to the, going to Houston, all upside, just gonna be happy? I gotta be honest with you, Mike,

I feel like you're trying to tell us more than you're going to tell us about how difficult Diggs was towards the end of the Buffalo thing. Like you've hit it at it now like three times, so. Well, that's why they're getting rid of him. So I'm just leaving open the possibility like there's reasons why people are available. And what looks great on paper in April

usually doesn't look quite as good. And what looks horrible on paper now usually isn't quite as bad. So I like where Houston's at. I like the idea of being aggressive or in this window. I've got them adding over a hundred million dollars in APY this year in their moves. Now 70 plus million went out the door too. They replaced some players but they're going to win the off season. They're going to win the offseason. They're going to win the offseason.

Who added the most? Added the most money. APY is what you're using. Okay, yeah, yeah, let me get it right here. So Houston, I've got them over a hundred million. The next team is Carolina, then Tennessee, Washington. Now some of those teams had a lot go out the door. If you look at the

differential, Atlanta, because they had all 45 million in one guy, Kirk Cousins, Arizona, because no one signed Arizona's guys. The people that left Arizona signed deals for 12 million bucks and they added 55 million in deals. So that's a big, that's kind of what I'm saying. No one wanted their guys. Washington signed a bunch of guys from outside, didn't have a lot of their guys get much, but do you love their guys that they signed? I don't know, they're just different. Tennessee is big in the differential, but was there a clear vision behind grabbing a corner, grabbing a wide receiver, grabbing a center. I'm not sure what they're doing, but they spent a lot of money and probably got better to do it. So,

the other extreme is now Buffalo. They're a minus 63 million APY differential because they've had, now you take Diggs off and slide whatever his 24 million a year goes off there. Baltimore was another one where Baltimore added almost nothing other than Derrick Henry lost a bunch too, but has a history of recovering from that sort of a thing and signing some guys late and being okay. Yeah. When I was reading the Baltimore piece about the names going out, and I know Henry's because of the position and his status and everything, it feels like, well, just as you were finishing the Senate, so Baltimore didn't really do anything. I'm sure the people listening are like, what about Derek Henry? But if there were a list of three or four teams, or I'm like, ah, they can kind

of reinvent themselves. Think about what we thought of the depth chart up front defensively from them last year going into the season. You'd be like, oh, that guy's all right. That's good. I guess they have a couple options here or there. Maybe that guy will get better. That guy's developing. Then you're like, whoa. They good. I guess they have a couple of options here or there. Maybe that guy will get better. That guy's developing. And then you're like, Whoa, like they, they turn. I mean, look, everybody loses them homes. So I would say defensively they deserve the benefit of the doubt of reinventing themselves on the fly because yeah. And I know McDonald's not going to be there, which was certainly a loss, which might be a bigger loss than any of the players,

but they just have a really good history. I have a little bit of concern on them though, because I feel like they had their best team last year. I mean, they were record setting in the point differential. And I just feel like when teams have that type of a team and don't even get into the Super Bowl, like it's such a huge missed opportunity and you won't have that good of a win again.

It doesn't mean you won't win it, but that to me really hurt. It reminded me kind of of like, you know, the Harbaugh 49ers losing at home to the Giants that one year. They just had this great team and should have done more with it. And now there's definitely going to be some losses and disruption to where I'd be very surprised if they were as good next season. Yeah. Buffalo probably feels a little bit like that, but the headliner for that might be Miami. And you have the note in that Miami lost six players who were going to make six million or more in their new deals,

which tells you how talented this roster was. And then it also tells me like, you know, a lot of those were their guys that you'd think would be resigned. So I just don't know if that's them telling us, actually we are going to pay Tua and we're not gonna kick the can down the road here. Like what does Miami's off season tell you about what their plans are?

Yeah, it feels to me like, and this is a team that hasn't even won a playoff game yet, right? But has had a lot of talent. They lost guys that you would normally want to resign, right? I think that was a contrast I drew in the piece was Buffalo lost a lot of guys where you're trying to get all those deals. They're 30 plus or they're down the road and it's time to reset.

And yeah, you sort of, you won a few playoff games, but you kind of missed your window with this group and have to reset. The Dolphins are losing Christian Wilkins, 28 years old, you know, in his prime. Robert Hunt, 27 years old, in his prime. Van Ginkle, 28, right? Jerome Baker, Rayquan Davis, these types of players are ones you would normally want to resign. Baker, Rayquan Davis, these types of players are ones you would normally want to re-sign. So they lost homegrown guys in their prime from a team that hasn't been able to win

a playoff game. And I do believe that they're probably going to pay the quarterback, and that explains some of this. But we already know the quarterback's good when it's all right around them, but we're not betting on the fact, we're not betting on his ability to lift it up when it falls off around him. Let's just say in a year, if Tyree Kill's not there or is diminished, is Tua going to make up the difference? I don't think we're quite ready to say that. So I think their losses are a little more concerning about, in terms of, wait, shouldn't this team still, they haven't't paid their quarterback yet, right? They should still be in the window. Yeah.

No, you're right. I mean, but it also explains like, okay, you're going to give Tyree that money that Kansas city doesn't want to give him. Okay. So what's that going to mean down the road? And I think you could say the same thing for Dallas, Dallas, very inactive, uh, during the off season. And there's a DAC decision coming where it's worked out for DAC every time.

But, you know, I still can't help but get past the cap projections moving forward where it's like, just because you have to keep up with the percentage of what your cap is going to your quarterback doesn't mean now that there's no money anywhere else because the cap just keeps growing at this incredible rate. So I'm not saying Dallas should have done more. I understand why they went extremely conservative for a franchise that normally is not a conservative at all. But I still think there's more wiggle room than maybe gets written about knowing

how much the cap is going to increase no matter what Dak's starting number is. about knowing how much the cap is going to increase no matter what DAC starting number is. Yeah. So, Dallas was last in the amount of money added. Incoming. Incoming. Now, they lost though, the players they lost were valued at half as much as the ones Miami lost. So, the players that left Miami signed for a combined $84 million in average annual salary, 42 for Dallas' guys. I don't feel like Dallas lost quite as much. They probably have some hope that their change in defensive scheme and maybe getting some guys back from injury could help them there, but they have realities of

some really good players they have to pay, whether it's Dak Prescott, whether it's CD Lamb that are going to come in at the top of the market or right near the top of the market. So I think that's probably foremost on their mind and why they weren't active in signing more. They feel like they already have a pretty good team. Any other nuggets that you think were the most interesting observations from NFL personnel about the free agent period? Yeah, to me, I thought the New England stuff was interesting. As we're sort of figuring them out in a post-Belichick world, and think of what's happened. We've seen Robert Kraft produce that kind of weird dynasty thing that painted

Bill Belichick in a negative light and kind of made Kraft look a little bit better. And then there's been a little bit of positioning for the narrative. Hey, why didn't they, do they not spend more because Kraft or because of Belichick or these sorts of things? And this off season to have their coach and GM talk about, hey, we got money in our pocket, we're going to be aggressive, and hey, we need speed in our team. And to really not act on those two things and to not be able to close the deal on Ridley, and then to have Kraft come out and talk about all these potential factors, Ridley's girlfriend or the quarterback situation,

really it's the money. I'm not saying they should pay $23 or $4 million a year for Ridley. That's a separate conversation, but that's why the player didn't come there. They didn't offer as much money. It's not the other stuff. Do you think that you think the Calvin really went for a chance to play with Will Levis and Malik Willis? I mean, that's not the deciding factor. So I think they're just kind of interesting. What are they? How are they operating? What's the span? What's, you know, what's Kraft kind of about in a post-Belichick world? The Chargers, we knew the cap situation was going to be brutal. They move on from both receivers. I would say, you know, they, every single year when I watch them, I'm like, this team is loaded and then they're not healthy. I am not going to fall in the trap of thinking that Herbert is the problem.

And, you know, I've always liked Mike Williams. I thought Keenan Allen was just a pros pro. And I can still like some of the other guys. I don't think Quinton Johnson, the first rounder is really living. Who knows, it's a little early, but I'm not sure that he, like, okay, man, we took you in the first round.

You're now sliding over. But it feels like this group probably did the best they could by not just having to gut it Which is what some people were wondering if it was gonna happen Yeah I tell me the moves just really fit in with the Harbaugh mentality and they're gonna try to win on his Mentality and how they're gonna play the game is gonna be different and I'm sure there's gonna be some analysis on that during the year because they've got a quarterback that a lot of people would like to throw the ball over the Place with but when you look at their moves their highest priced guy from the outside is analysis on that during the year because they've got a quarterback that a lot of people would like to throw the ball over the place with.

But when you look at their moves, their highest priced guy from the outside is Will Disley, a really big tight end from Seattle who's going to contribute in the run game and the pass game. Right? Their next biggest expenditure was a running back, Gus Edwards, who I think is pretty good and is going to help them. But who did they not keep? The wide receivers, right? The components of your pass game. Who did they find a way to keep? A couple of big guys on the defensive

line, right? Or pass rusher type of guys in Bosa and Clilmax. So those things are all just consistent with the makeover. You have choices in that. They could have tried to pay the receivers and say goodbye to the other guys, but you can really see the vision that Harbaugh has, and that's what they signed up for. So things would be fascinating to see how that works,

what the offense looks like. Are they a great passing team? What is Greg Roman's kind of typecast as, as just a run game guy, right? But I think it's probably eager to show that he's more than that. Uh, there'd be fascinating. It seems like no one liked the jets off season. The jets though off season is just an extension of where they're at.

Uh, which is in a bad spot, highly leveraged, all in with Rodgers. So they really aren't making moves the way you would ideally make them, which is with some kind of a long range vision. In mind, they're signing Tyron Smith, who is probably going to miss games, but there's probably better than what they could have otherwise had at left tackle. They're signing Mike Williams, who's coming off of a major injury and not completely young guy. And then Rodgers himself is 40. So yeah, nobody loves where they're at, but it's probably just an extension of where they've been. You kind of make bad decisions. You chase bad money with bad money, right? What else are they going to do? They're all going to get fired if they don't win this year.

So you're not really worried about the, uh, you're not really worried about the interest rate on the 30 year mortgage when you're going to be evicted next week. Right. No. Um, and it makes sense. Like they know, right. They're clearly like, all right, we'll add another receiver and tackle who are older because it doesn't matter. Like if he doesn't play, although they clearly have a better backup situation with Tyrod Taylor than they did with Zach Wilson last year.

I don't know if I included this in there. I don't think I put it in there. But one of the conversations I had with somebody was like, and that's a classic overreaction. I mean, they had a bad situation at backup quarterbacks. Now, let's go $6 million a year for Tyrod Taylor. It's interesting. I didn't put it in there. I can't reuse everything that I get to put in there. And sometimes with a team like that, when it's all negative, like it just feeds negativity. Like you just have almost every piece of analysis is going to be negative. And that's probably not entirely fair to just completely pile on. But that was an interesting perspective. I thought too is what are you doing if you lose Rogers?

Right. But I mean, think of where we were at last during the conversation with them after Rogers tears the Achilles and you go look at this defense, like this defense and the zone, this year two run of like these guys are nuts. And, you know, I've seen, right, I've seen plenty of great defense. Like I always think of that Broncos team where it's like if they had just gotten average at quarterback, like they may have made some noise

because of how talented it was. And then you start to look at the statistics and they're falling off. It's like, yeah, they're not falling off because the players are bad. They're falling off because the players are like every weekend are going, we've got no chance, we've got no chance.

So just having somebody that is slightly below average or I should probably phrase it this way above peak Zach Wilson is enough because the media and I don't mean the general media but I think the very New York thing and it's week to week. I don't envy being in local anymore because you have to figure out a way to talk about it every single week. But Zach Wilson would be below average, the defense would be great and they'd get a win and it's like, oh, hey, maybe this guy's figuring it out. It's like, what are you watching?

Like he sucks. I know. Well, what you're talking about is, hey, we can't have replacement level quarterback play. And when you look at those teams, not just Denver, but the Rex Grossman Bears, right? I mean, they're so good on defense and special teams, they're able to advance. I think Case Keenum was an example when Minnesota really had it going on defense. I think they went 13 and three. So I think it's a point well taken and probably, though, if they... The issues they've had upfront and some, and on their offense probably though, are

requiring even better than an average quarterback. You know, they may need an elite quarterback to function well in offense. We'll see if Tyron Taylor just, you know, how long is he going to last there if he has to play? We'll see. Do you remember that this is SportsCenter ad where they had Jack Edwards with the kid who was like the big call up.

Remember they were like, hey, this kid is like the LeBron. Now this is before LeBron I think even, but it was whatever the top young anchor prospect was. Yes. And they called them up. And then I think he says on the broadcast, that's obviously the ad and not a real broadcast.

Is it Jack McDowell? I think he goes like, what is Jack McDowell? Jack McDowell sucks. So I just did the sucks thing with Zach Wilson, which I wouldn't really expect to do. I've just got so sick of hearing about it last year. That is one of the greatest sports center ads ever. That's really good.

Yeah, that's great. And then Bob Lee, Bob Lee's there at the end and he goes, I'm paraphrasing because I don't remember a word for word. He's like, you know, it was too soon, it's really good. Yeah, that's great. And then Bob Lee, Bob Lee's there at the end and he goes, I'm paraphrasing because I don't remember a word for word. He's like, you know, it was too soon, it's too early. With perfect delivery and timing, yeah. Right, and we're talking about this guy. Looking at him, he's like in the one shot going,

this guy sucks. I would love, it would be great to have all, to have that type of a commentary on all the people in the media, you know, you know, just because we because you throw this stuff around. I think we need to have, this is a good conversation actually, but just an awareness of how you talk about people.

Like to just, like we just, to just cavalierly say he sucks. I know, I just like- I don't like that I did it, to be honest. Yeah, I know. That's why you're pointing it out. It's like we would not say that to somebody, I know. That's why you're pointing it out. It's like we would not say that to somebody, you know? I mean, and if Zach Wilson were on the 49ers, he wouldn't, you know, he might

do a lot better, you know? He's been in an absolutely worst thing. So yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying. I love that. That's a great old commercial. It's a good sort of mechanism for humor to flip it around and show kind of the absurdity too of how we just talk about people. I know I was trying to find it while we were talking. I can't even find it right now. So I don't even know if I just remember how much I love that campaign. I love those ads and they were unbelievable because it was actually not that far off from

how absurd your day could be at ESPN where you'd just be sitting there at the salad bar and then there's this Hall of Famer complaining that they're out of carrots. And you would just go, yeah, this is how people are. But yeah, if I was hanging out with my buddies and one was a Jets fan and he'd be trying to talk me to Zach Wilson, I probably would just look at him

and be like, what are you talking about? And it would be different. ESPN kind of really was like that. I worked there 12 years, but I wasn't in Bristol. I was working remotely. So those times when I'd go back there, you'd have those observations. You'd be walking to the cafeteria

and you'd just see Lee Corso sitting there or something. It was like those commercials, really. Yeah, it was. Okay, I wanna finish with this. I was looking back at the 23 QB tiers. It's one of the best things anybody does with football. And Hertz came in at sixth, sixth overall. He was the top of tier two, right?

You had five tier ones, and then Hertz was the first quarterback in tier two. And I liked doing this. I'll go back and read like preseason stuff from a year ago where it's, Hey, Jalen hurts is the best quarterback in the NFC, right? And it was just understood and he played that well. I mean, he was, he was just incredible to get to a super bowl. The whole thing you're looking at the gap between AFC quarterbacks and NFC

quarterbacks, and I wonder if that was perhaps a one year overreaction, but you couldn't say that at the time. And then you go, okay, was he hurt in 23? He was definitely hurt at times. Absolutely. But I wonder if he will be the two time overreaction QB tier recipient from being all the way to like this non-debatable position of the six best quarterback in the NFL which was probably high and for him to probably a massive reaction the other way. Okay so with you saying that i pulled up the tears from last year okay so so tier one was patrick mahomes bro chow and erin rogers herbert so of those rogers and herbert gonna go down right i mean there's no right there they're gonna fall off some. I don't think it's like given that they stay in tier one though. They might. Jalen Hurts top of tier two. So Jalen Hurts will be passed by Lamar Jackson, right? Right. Lamar will go above him. Trevor Lawrence probably falls off some. I don't think he's going to. Dac probably stays about where he is. Stafford may not chop a little Watson's going to fall out.

Cousins will stay where he is. So I don't, I'm just looking down here. How many of these other people, you know, Kyler, Derek Carr, golf, Russell Wilson, two, uh, you know, tier three, how many of those people are going to go above Jalen, right? Are we going to have a smaller tier two? It sounds like it. I think you just pre-qualed. Oh, Stroud's going to come in though this year tier two? It sounds like it. I think you just pre-quled.

Oh, Stroud's going to come in though this year because he wasn't in it, so Stroud's going to go up. I mean, Stroud. Okay, but when Stroud jump hurts, probably. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. I think it was Stroud.

My question is, does Stroud sort of do a Herbert and just come into tier one on the bottom? That's kind of what happened to Herbert. Or do people say, Hey, I want to, sometimes they come right up to the top of cheer to like Hertz didn't say, all right, I want to see it another year. But yeah, I mean, shroud. Well, yeah, they should. Okay. So two, two more things on this before we finish. Um, Brock party had one tier two vote last year, even though he finished in tier four.

Is that guy awesome at what he does or did he just like Purdy? Uh, let me look and see. I can scroll here and see who it was. You can see who the voter is. Yeah. I got my little thing here. We're not doing a screen share so I can do this. I can look.

Ooh. Okay. So wow, that surprised me me you talked to him. Okay. So I would say, I would say the person who had him as a two is probably one of the more optimistic graders. And sometimes the most optimistic graders have an offensive orientation. Sometimes they see the glass is half full more. Because I have not only everyone's votes, I have what their average vote is and how it compares to everyone. So this person was an easier grader than others. Purdy's definitely rocketing up. People were not down on Purdy. If you know the way that quarterback tiers works, you have tier one, two, three, then tier four has two different

components. It's, all right, I think Tyrod Taylor's a four. He's played a lot. I don't think he's really a starter. Or tier four is, this guy just hasn't played enough. You know what? Patrick Mahomes after one start with the Chiefs, I love him, but I'm just going to give him a four because we can't say anything after, remember after his rookie year he had one start, we'll just put him in a four. So, Purdy got 26 tier four votes from people who were just like, I don't know, he's been hurt. He hasn't even started even barely half a season. Let's just four him. So all of those fours are going to go away. No one's giving them a four. So he's going to rock it up just off of that, just off the fact that his fours were not negative fours. They were not enough information

fours. So my question for Purdy is does he come up into tier two from the he was sort of right between tier three and four but the fours were not negative fours like I said they were incomplete fours. So he he's gonna come way up there does he go above cousins? I don't know. Does he he has a chance to go into the bottom of tier two probably. I think it'll go ahead of cousins because of the cousin's injury factor into the whole thing. Okay. So last thing. So I spent the open talking about my favorite topic, the

first round quarterbacks and. You know, I just think it's an, I've come to the conclusion. I think it's an unsolvable problem. Who's the best quarterback evaluator you've ever talked to. That's a great question. Um, I'm biased right now towards my football GM podcast quarterback evaluator you've ever talked to? That's a great question. I'm biased right now towards my Football GM podcast co-host, Randy Mueller. I think he's really good at it.

And I've seen that come out the last few years. He's probably more than anyone else, though somebody that I've talked to in depth every year for the last few years about just from working with him. So I talked to a lot of other people, but I don't necessarily go through all of their quarterback picks every year and compare them. Right. So I don't necessarily know as well. Randy's just been really good on this stuff and I think he's good at it.

Okay. That was not the name I was expecting, but it makes sense. I mean, how do you judge it? Like just off of that, somebody drafted a couple of good ones. No, that's not the answer, right? It has to be somebody who, you know what they're thinking about of every class and they have to have the normal wins that everybody has

Look, I don't care who you are. You're gonna have some horrible horrible Opinions in on your track record of this position But I think there's more people than we would realize even in positions of top power Who aren't truly evaluators? of top power who aren't truly evaluators. And so there are people even who are GMs who are great information gatherers, right? Yeah, they look at it and do some evaluation, but they are listening to a lot of different other people who they respect and they're putting it all together to make a decision. That's different than somebody who has a set criteria for evaluating the position tested over time. So I've seen that firsthand with Randy of what he looks for,

what his criteria are, and then how that sort of projects or doesn't project. And that is different than probably even most of the GMs probably aren't true evaluators, right? Well, you would think there's a background of evaluating to that position. So the way you say that based on what I talked about in the open is, is it actually solvable? You just need different people taking the quarterbacks all the time.

Like I think some people actually think that and I just, I'm gonna have a hard time getting me there. But if you just change the entire structure of who was actually saying yes or no on quarterbacks, then we'd have a higher hit rate. Like then why hasn't somebody done it? No, you're not going to have a higher hit rate because there's a zero sum number of quarterbacks. So the quarterbacks in a draft, it really comes down to how comfortable

are you taking someone early and why. There, there's going to be, yes, I would just make it, make a number 10 quarterbacks drafted this year, 12, right? The numbers that are successful. Isn't going to change based on who we have drafting them. Right? No, but I would say that the success rate for a team, like if we're, we're searching for a higher success rate,

then the person who's saying yes or no, like is the person saying yes when they don't want to based on the draft position? Absolutely. People are taking a quarterback when they need one and knowing that it's not, uh, knowing that it's lower odds. Yeah. No, I understand that, but no one went into the 2016 draft and said, oh my gosh, Carson Wentz and Jared Goff are perfect. I mean, this is what you're looking for. We got no questions. These guys are top five. Yet when you go back and do your study, that's the standard you hold them to, right? You go, these guys took them in the top five. They don't know what they're doing. They didn't think those guys were slam dunks. They needed quarterbacks and thought there was a chance and they could support them, right?

And get them going. So just because of where a quarterback is taken doesn't mean that a good evaluator thought they were worth that. Yeah. You're having a hard time getting me there though, because you know how bad it is when you're like, you can't be 50 50 on it with the top 10 pick. I agree. Somebody takes those are bad decisions. Right. Like you think somebody's going to change it. You're like, I don't really like them, but I know, but I know when I'm sitting

there with Randy last year and he's going, um, Stroud would be my top quarterback because of XYZ. I hope, you know, Bryce young with the size and the stuff is concerning. Um, and I wouldn't take XYZ in the top 10. Uh, that's different than what those teams did. Right. Right. Cause Randy's just talking about the class and he's not sitting there at eight going with an owner saying, we better get a quarterback here be fired next year.

That's the way the league works decisions are made all the time for the wrong reasons in the NFL everyone has this idea that all these teams are super efficiently trying to be the best that's not true. Teams every day refuse to hire somebody who's really good because it might disrupt somebody is already there, right? Just like any business It's completely just a watch. We just don't watch those businesses every Sunday It's completely flawed in the process of drafting the quarterbacks is flawed too Because of the great need of the position We kept you too long already Mike. This was awesome. We'll look forward to the QB tiers. That's out what, the summer, right?

It will be, yeah. Out the summer, usually sometime July, August. All right, we'll pick it up then. It is the Alliance. We're getting ready for Final Four weekend, so we're going to pivot a bit here and pick some college basketball stuff. Really, with Kyle here, this should be, this should be easier. I almost feel like you should take two of the props on this.

No pressure. Uh, I got a good feeling about this one. I really do. Um, I think the NC state story has been, um, sensational and, uh, I like, uh, I like the DJ burns thing and, uh, like throwing people off in the beginning and stuff like that, but he is, he's gas. So I'm doing a first half, uh, bet and it's the alternate spread, uh, NC state plus eight and a half during the first half, I think it's going to get

wonky with fouls towards the end of that game, but I think they can, they can have a good first half and this might even be, you know, way closer than eight and a half points. So NC state plus eight and a half. Okay. All spread first half plus eight. Uh, I'm going to go to the Yukon game. I'm in Connecticut.

Uh, I didn't go to Yukon, but my wife did. I think Yukon wins. I don't know. They're blowing everybody out, but I'm going to just take the under here because the, and this is shout out to the guys at the East coast bias grows from the pod before we listened today, they were all on this Yukon is just a monster defensively. I know Alabama shoots it well and scores, but there's a good chance that Yukon blows them out and Alabama doesn't score as much as they usually do. So I'll

take the under 160 and a half. Yeah, I think they try for 53 pointers in that game, but I don't think they're going to fall. All right. Okay. Um, the line on that game is 11 and a half. I want to see what the latest thing here is on a four. So FanDuel has it at, yep, it's minus 11 and a half produced minus nine and a half. Okay, so I mean, they've covered, they've covered, I think what 10 straight NCAA tournament games.

It's absurd. They just got off the plane. They just got off the plane, so everything's fine. They made it. Yeah, that was interesting last night. All right, so let's go with two other things here. I'm gonna go Nick Pringle over six and a half rebounds. His only lower rebound total game in the tournament was against UNC

But he had four fouls in that one. He still had nine rebounds Again in their first game Against Charleston they didn't need him, but I'm really impressed with him and just his activity and If they're missing shots, I feel like there'll be some rebounds in there for him So he's averaged eight in the tournament. And for the season, he was at only five. But if you look at the game log and how many minutes he's been playing, like one game they didn't need him, didn't play him. And he's been a big part of what they've done in two of the other games. So we're going to go Pringle over. And then on the other side of that, we're going to go Kling in under nine and a half rebounds. So I're going to go Pringle over and then on the other side of that, we're going to go clinging under nine

and a half rebounds. So I just want to look at some of the unders with the more popular players that I think people will be betting props on and people who bet on props usually always bet the over. So let's go clinging under that package it up together, put you at plus 570. So that's a 570 payout from the Alliance. Feeling good. Feeling good. So Rudy says he's feeling good.

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But general consensus on most of this was like, hey dude, it's 20 days that are going to suck in comparison to years of untangling yourself from what is a terrible, terrible decision. We had a few emails that said do better in relation to last week's, or Tuesday's episode, which I do hope will happen. We're not gonna go into those. Yeah. Yeah, yep.

Yep, super controversial. We do have a prosecutor here though, and a former defense lawyer. So here we go, love the pod, prosecutor from the South, listen every episode, was listening to the life advice portion from April 2nd, agree with everything y'all said about the guy who's considering going on the lam over a 20 day jail sentence. Never written in before, but want to explain a few things about the

criminal justice system. Laws and procedures are different in every state, but hopefully this is illuminating. One, arrest warrants are entered into a system called the NCIC, which is a nationwide system used by almost every law enforcement agency as a centralized database to allow local agencies to communicate with agencies in other states. Let's say you get pulled over a speeding ticket, you hand your license to the officer and he walks back to his patrol vehicle. The first thing he'll do is enter your information to the NCIC and see if he gets a hit, meaning

you have an active warrant for your arrest. Every now and then you'll hear about some guy who didn't pay some sort of like not having to the NCIC and see if he gets a hit, meaning you have an active warrant for your arrest. Every now and then you'll hear about some guy who didn't pay some sort of like not having a fishing license thing and five years later he gets pulled over and they're cuffing him. You're like, what happened? You're like, dude, we're fishing. I forgot. I think I still have like dozens of parking tickets in West Hartford. So just letting it ride. See what happens. I don't think you can get arrested for that. No, probably not, but. They could suspend your license though,

and then you get pulled over and. Or renewing the car registration. Doesn't that stuff all come back up? Yeah, you would think. Haven't registered the car yet, so we'll see. So I guess we'll find out when I do that. My car is registered, it's just, you know. The real thing will be,

will there be a listener who hates you on this podcast? And it's like, okay, or is there a listener who loves you, who works, you know, you know, the real thing will be, will there be a listener who hates you on this podcast? And it's like, okay, or is there a listener who loves you who works, you know, the chamber of commerce calls somebody over like, Hey, let's wave a few of these for Saruti. It seems like he gets an anonymous tip. Hey, I got this guy who lives, you know, it lives, you know, you just outed yourself about as hard as you possibly could, but I don't, I don't know. Yeah, but I don't, I don't. Work for me so far. I don't know. Let's see how it goes. Yeah. Look, I mean, parking tickets are just, if you've ever had a phase of your

life where parking tickets are part of the daily routine, it's just awful. I had it the first place I ever owned the condo in Boston, Com app. And I was like, it has to have parking. It has to have parking, has to have parking. And then both realtors was like, yeah, it has parking. And then the guy was buying it from, he's like, yeah, just call this person. You buy my space from them, but you don't have to buy it. And then both realtors was like, yeah, it has parking. And then the guy was buying it from he's like, yeah, just call this person, you buy my space from them, but you don't have to buy it. Just pay whatever I was like, okay, cool. No problem. Move in dude parks in his space. Like this is

awesome. Get to walk right to my place from here. And then after like two days, there's a note in my car being like, who are you? And why are you parking in here? And I was like, Oh, I bought the place next door from wherever. And this was transferable. So like, where do I send my money? So like, yeah, it doesn't work that way. This is our building.

There's a waiting list and you don't even live in our building. And that guy was living here forever. And so yeah. And by the way, the guy's suck. He was awful. Yeah. Like he was like one of those guys and the cable didn't get switched immediately, like lost his fucking mind about it.

Now, granted, I wasn't exactly. King of transferring utilities at that stage of my life. He was like one of those guys and the cable didn't get switched immediately, like lost his fucking mind about it. Now granted, I wasn't exactly king of transferring utilities at that stage of my life. So I'll take the blame on that one, but there's a level of like guy to guy, be like, hey, can you make sure you take care of that? Instead, I got like this scathing. I think he actually was a former lawyer who didn't practice a ton. So anyway, just adds up. So then I lived on Com Ave for six years with no parking space. It's just a nightmare.

Yeah. That's a young guy with like, hey, listen, so you're already not super responsible. These things, you're not great at mailing stuff as you've so eloquently said before. And it's like, this needs to be mailed in 30 days. Otherwise we're going to, it's going to be multiplied by 1.5 and it'll just never stop. How's that? Good deal be mailed in 30 days. Otherwise we're gonna, it's gonna be multiplied by 1.5 and it'll just never stop. How's that? Good deal? All right, good luck.

Yeah, right, it's going to be way worse. I mean, speaking of talking about going on the lam, it's like, hey, instead of just, I eventually at one point had a thing of stamps and a checkbook in my glove box until my car got broken into and the check was gone. The checks were gone. But I was just like, you need to,

as soon as you get this ticket, put the stamp on and then write the check and just do it this way and get it over with every single time. It's like I remember I was taking a girl out and she was over and I was like, all right, let's let's head out. You grab some dinner and walk out. My car is booted. Booted. Yeah. And I mean, there's a certain age of like where it's funny. And then I don't even know what that specific number

is. And then really quick to sad. Right. The girl, it's not sad. Like are you fucking serious? Like you have a boot on your car and whatever that line was, we were past it. Yeah. So it wasn't, it wasn't funny or cool or anything like that. I would wonder if you open a small business or if you were starting your own company and just interviewed guys and be like, well, what are some of your skills to be like, you know what? I'm on it when it comes to the mail. I mail shit out all the time. And I'd be like, well, what are some of your skills? He'd be like, you know what? I'm on it when it comes to the mail.

I mail shit out all the time. And I'd be like, interview over. You're hired. All right. You got an outlier. Back to this. Um, all right. Number two, if you have a warrant for your arrest, bench warrants are

issued all the time for missing court. He'll detain you and inquire further about the nature of the warrant and where it's from for extradition purposes. If you're pulled over in the same state as the warrant or in a neighboring state, they'll keep you in custody. So the agency with the warrant can come get you. A more serious underlying offense will mean a wider extradition area and escalating order. Same neighboring state region, i.e. east of the Mississippi or nationwide extradition. Number three, the passage of time doesn't mean the charge goes away.

I was recently assigned a case for a forgery from 2001 oh sorry those parking tickets the defending excuse me The defendant had to remain in custody until she pled to her charge It took about two weeks for her to get into court She likely would have walked away from an initial court date with either a fine or sure probationary period Had she shown up to court two decades ago. Number four, county jail can be much worse than going to prison depending on the offense. Well, that's not gonna excite them. When you're convicted of a crime and sent to prison,

you were sorted into different correctional facilities based on the severity of the offense. In your prior record, violent offenders are sent to maximum security facilities with the other people convicted of similar offenses, while the nonviolent offenders are sent to different facilities and much more opportunities and amenities.

Some even have work release programs that allow the inmates to leave during the day to work for approved employers. There's a federal penitentiary in my state for white collar criminals that has a racquetball court. County jail is very different. We have defendants charged with shoplifting cases of beer, having to share cells with rapists and murderers and the food is fucking terrible. Google searched the term neutral loaf.

I don't want to do that. All right. You're on it. All right. I know a lot. Most of the dudes in county are just like, I just want to be done with this. This will be over soon. I mean, there's some guys who like love it, I think.

And they're like, oh, back again. But I think a lot of guys, from what I heard is they were just like, most people just want to fucking do their 38 days, you know, whatever. That's an episode. Yeah. Couple episodes. We also had this one. Um, just want to know how you became an expert on the four stated above women,

hoops, finance, and real estate. It feels like a shot. Now, when I originally got it from Kyle, I thought it was like, how are you an expert on women's hoops, finance, and real estate? And coming off of last, last Tuesday, I was like, Oh, here we go. Here's another one. And instead it's four different categories. So it's not women's hoops.

It's women, hoops, finance, and real estate. I don't know, man. It's good proof in the work. It's a lifestyle really. It would have been better if it was women's hoops. I read it the first time as women's hoops. So I was like, okay, this is definitely mean. And then I was like, wait, there's a comma in there.

I think it's still mean. Yep. Yep. wait there's a comma in there I think it's still mean okay okay all right let's stay with the prison theme because we have another one 40 years old 62180 don't go to gym but avid cardio guy who does triathlons and mostly bodyweight exercises dips push-ups pull-ups it's kind of like a routine you do in jail what's an avid basketball player with no real comp but sought after in full court because of conditioning, could run the floor on both ends,

and the height covers deficiencies, people appreciate running up and down on both ends, stopped playing 15 years ago and three friends tore their ACLs in back-to-back games. Well, that's their ACLs, they're not yours. Here's the deal, we have a friend group of about eight to 10 guys who all attended college together and get together each year for a weekend of golf or gambling or music festivals, drinks and telling old stories at rotating places around the U.S. Attendance at

these events has been incredible, rarely anyone missing except for the serious health or life event situation. We have a perfect attendance streak for the last five years with one exception, the subject of the email. I can't remember any controversy with these guys that ever threatened the friendship. It really is amazing and I with these guys that ever threatened the friendship. It really is amazing and I truly value this group. However, several years ago, one of my core guys, maybe the core guy, went to prison and is now getting out this year.

The friend group is split on just welking him back and starting to cause arguments. Please don't read what he did so we can keep this anonymous. Okay, I will not read what he did, but I am reading it now. Okay. This is bad. Some people in the group are married and have kids are just not comfortable with this guy.

At least not right away. Some are blaming other wives, not letting people welcome them back. It's gotten really personal. Maybe we build up to having them back because some aren't ready, but it's starting to come between us and Splinter the golf trip, the group, the group text is less active and I have a feeling this will all fall apart what do we do well this is I'm not gonna tell Kyle and Steve I'd be Kyle obviously already knows he's read the email but it's it's the kind of thing that's just not gonna fly it shouldn't fly with anybody, but I understand what you're trying to say here.

Uh, but I don't, I think you just have to take my word for it on this one, that this is not something you're going to convince the other side of. Like, you're not going to go, Hey, he did his time and now we have to bring him back to the group now. Sure. It would probably mean a ton to him to try to pick up his life in some way. And maybe you or one of the other core guys feels like you should do that for him. But what I'd ask you is, are you so ready to try to welcome him back that you're gonna argue with your friends

where it seems like it's been a pretty seamless run of 20 years post-college. And you wanna jeopardize that, which is I think a very important thing to have in your life. I think it's really great when you have guys that you can still pick up the phone, bullshit with the text thread stuff,

and then plan trips together. We have a college trip coming up because we lost sight of it, guys moved and all these different things. We used to be really, really good about it. Some guys were in, some guys were out. We're doing a Pinehurst golf trip this fall, and everybody's excited about it. We're talking about it nonstop,

and it makes me mad that I blew a lot of this stuff off because I was like, oh, work, work, work, work, work. Right. So I'm even, you know, back in, in a way that I think I was out for a while. Cause it's like, he just never does anything because he's always working and then he's working weekends, whatever. So this is, this is not nearly the same thing. But the point is, is that I would not jeopardize that because you're going to have another 20 years of this. Because you guys have gone strong. I would not jeopardize that if someone is not going to welcome him back. And the other people that don't want to welcome him back, just based on what you wrote the email,

like I'm okay with them not welcoming him back. If you feel like you're a closer friend to him and you can forgive him, that's for you to do. And if you're that close with him, maybe you go to him and explain it. Be like, look, I feel differently than other people do. But the point is, it's like, it's not going to change. I'm not going to on your behalf, go and argue with these guys because the only thing that's going to happen is that the guys you're still friends with, aren't

going to want to be your friends when you didn't even really do anything wrong. And that's of course to the email. So this guy had been on this trip before he went away, right? Is what he was saying. If he was, yeah, he was or would have been. That's probably even worse. It's not even like, oh, they just don't know. We could, you know, you know, we could, we could bring him around in some other set, you know, settings and then build up to this. If he's been on the trip before and they're just like, yeah, we're actually happy with not reintroducing this. It'd be a little different I think if it was like, it's our buddy. You just didn't, you heard of all the

stories, but he's been away for a while and now like he's fresh out and he's ready to get back. Like that would actually, I'd say there was more hope for this working out. But if he was, if he's been a part of the trip before and they know the whole thing and they're like, yeah, we're not, we're not into this at all. We know what that is and we're not into it. I think you just got to be supportive of you and the guys who are leaning in his corner in other ways. I think you do make your own little trip or whatever. He's fresh out, he's going to need help and you can help him that way.

But I think this way, shoehorning him into this trip where people are going to be uncomfortable and then in turn he'll probably end up being uncomfortable because that'll be visible or whatever. I think you just have to like, I know what you want. You can do that for him and make him feel included other ways. So you're just going to have to work a little harder, I think. I don't think you're going to be able to bring him into this group. I think the fresh out thing loses its cool after you're in your 20s. So I can see why people with families are like,

I actually don't even want to hear the stories. Like, I don't care. I just don't want to be a part of it. So I think you just have to give that, give that support and love that you want to give to them another way and not on the yearly trip. Yeah. I just say like, I think it is, you know, I don't, I don't, without knowing what the, what he was in prison for. Uh, but I think it is admiral to be like, Hey, I don't want to just like

leave this guy hanging with nothing when he gets out I think that's like that's very respectable as Ryan said I would understand why there are people who might not want to do that in certain circumstances But if you're one of those people that's like hey, I'm gonna support this guy and this is like part of the reclamation project That's awesome. Like power to you. You can't you can't force that on other people and I think this trip is Something that like if you brought him or tried to make it happen, you're going to ruin, as Ryan said, like a bunch of, I'm not saying anything that you guys didn't already say. I'm just kind of like reiterating it.

It's going to ruin a lot of things. You're not going to be able to have that kind of fun anymore. So you can, I don't see what the big deal is. Like just do stuff separately with them. It's okay. Like, you know, if it ever builds, it probably won't to be honest with you, but if it ever builds back up to that point where there is a trust level and maybe he does come around to a couple of functions and the guys kind of can meet him in a little bit more of an informal or like less intimate setting.

And they're like, all right, yeah, maybe he's not that bad. Maybe we can think about inviting him in the future. But the first one back, that's kind of an insane move, man. So I respect what you're doing, but you can't do it. Yeah, why not? It doesn't have to be one or the other. Why not both?

You can like the women's final four and the men's, you know what I mean? Just, uh, they play at different times. Do you guys like that? I did. Yeah. I just, I don't know. I don't think I need to do a, yeah, I just don't know that we need to do a follow up. I thought I made a lot of clear positive points. So we want to address anything on that

or we're just gonna leave it alone? Well, we want to just finish it on that. I don't know. I just, then I feel like I'm giving it more fuel. Anyway, whatever. You know, I knew that the open on Tuesday wasn't gonna be for everybody because I admitted that I wasn't super into the Iowa LSU game.

That same way I wasn't into the NC State Duke game for whatever reason. I was like, I'm just not that into it. And it had everything to do with the basketball. I had nothing to do with anything else, but I knew it was going to happen for some people, I didn't do it. Like when people say like, oh, you ended up on a blog because of what you said. And by the way, they could have done me way worse with the headline. If they wanted to be really nasty, they could have just me way worse with the headline if they wanted to be really nasty.

They could have just say, Ryan Russo changed the channel. Whoa. But they put in that Ryan Russo changed the channel to watch Jaylen Suggs against Scoot Henderson or whatever. Cause I actually did really want to see how it looked. The evaluation of Scoot never stops for me over here. I don't know if you did last night. So it made the rounds and then once,

I mean, this is the problem with aggregation is that, I mean, look, there's some people that are gonna listen to what I said on the open Tuesday and just go, fuck you. Like, okay. But if you don't listen to any of that and then you only see Ryan Rizzolo says he changed the channel and it's clearly done that way to get someone else to click on it.

Like sometimes when I'm talking, I'll think, oh, if I say this line this way, this could be taken out. And so I almost have to do a monologue in a way that's protecting me against taking a piece of it out because I know no one that's only reacting to the story is ever gonna click on the entire link unless people did. Cause I did see some of that. We're like, well, if you listen to what he actually said,

and I still knew that that open wasn't for anybody. I didn't do it to be like, hey, I'm just going to be a jerk today, or hey, I want to get attention today because Saruti knows this and this is a hundred percent the truth. When I end up on like a media blog for something I said, I'm usually like, fuck.

Like I don't actively hope to do it because I actually, you know, I don't do this to be liked by everybody, but I never wanted to be a jerk. Like I just would hate to have to be like, oh, I'm just gonna be like the jerk guy about everything. But I think sometimes the point kind of gets proven the way we talk about certain things, man, where it's like so

you're mad because I didn't want to watch that but you'd never be mad if I didn't want to watch something else so like say the men's tournament which is under assault shout out to one shining podcast I just been I've been getting all these like I I'm not even watching this so bad that like yeah I understand but it could be both it was my, but it could be both. It was my point. Like it could be both. And you could, you don't have to talk about the one that you dislike more. I just feel like we're a little bit disingenuous when we talk about like the, the landscape of different sports. And this is specifically one of them. Um, you know, if you want to talk about, like I thought your open Ryan was fair. We talked about it beforehand. Again, we talked about many people thinking that they were going to probably dislike it or disagree with it, but you said, Hey, I want to talk about this. I thought your open rhyme was fair. We talked about it beforehand. Again, we talked about many people thinking

that they were gonna probably dislike it or disagree with it, but you said, hey, I wanna talk about this. I watched the game, I gave it a shot, and it wasn't for me. That's fine. That was your point. But I think, I don't know, people get so mad.

After praising it in the history and appreciating it for like six or seven minutes, which is all true. Like I knew I was like, I gotta figure out a way to talk about this. I probably in a podcast wouldn't have talked about it that way what I would have talked about on radio. But I also think like, I gotta figure out a way to talk about this. I probably in a podcast wouldn't have talked about it that way what I would have talked about on radio. But I also think like, there's,

I think there's a lot of people being like, you have to love it. And if you say anything other than it's fucking awesome and it's greater than the men's tournament, then you're like a bad person. You're like, what are we doing here? Go ahead, Suri. No, that was really just my point.

And like your whole point, it's just ironic because your whole point was that like that we can get to a point where I could like something and that's okay, and then you didn't like something and then everybody was mad at you. So that's just, it's just, that's where we live. It kind of proved the point at the end of what I said.

I listened to it again. I was like, I could have just done a better job with this, but I didn't want to do it in a way that was like, oh, I regret what I said, because now people think I'm a bad person. Cause I change the channel on a sporting event. I don't, but I also kind of knew like, Hey, this probably isn't for everybody.

But like when somebody tells me they hate the NBA, you know what I do? I'm like, yeah, all right. 20 days in jail. Yeah. I have friends that are like, I cannot believe that's what you do with your life. And I was like, yeah, no, I get it.

And I've even said, and I've said this before, but like, if I didn't love it, I'd hate it. You know, when my buddy's like, I kind of like the worst fans though. All the bullshit, all the transaction, go ahead. No, I kind of think the worst fans are the ones that like have to feel like they cheerlead for their own sport.

Like I'm the the same like soccer. The NFL fans are the are the like the NFL media and fans. The the hero award of that. Like, I like the NFL a lot, like most people. But if you're not like Captain NFL is like, oh, you don't like it as much as I do. I mean, that's that's the most important. Other sport. Like, oh, yeah, this was a fun thing that I watched. And they're like, well,

actually like this thing did better though. The NFL, Jags Broncos still outrated it. Like fucking cool. Did you get a check? It is very strange. I could, yeah, it's the same thing. Like I watch a lot of soccer, but we got to do, there's no gold. It's so boring. I'm like, all right, I don't care. Like, cool. I'm going to watch, I'm going to be watching, you know, Chelsea, Manchester United later today. I don't care. I don't care. I feel like hockey fans are pretty good. They kind of operate in silence and

everything. They just, they have the belt where they're like, our shit is the best live. And that's what most people will say. Like God hockey live is unbelievable. Like, yeah, we know. And that's kind of it. Like they're not, I feel like they're pretty, so good. I was a hockey guy though. I'd get annoyed and be like, Oh cool. You're going to watch during the playoffs now. That's lame. I would get out. Yeah. Okay. But like this is, this isn't even about the Iowa LSU game anymore.

This is a broader topic of like people will be like, can't believe you didn't do the tournament. Like, well, I didn't watch any men's college basketball this year. I didn't watch it. Of course, no one got mad about that, but it was more of like, how come you didn't do any tournaments? Like I didn't feel comfortable talking about it because yeah, the way I talk about the other sports that I watch is not the way I was going to talk about that. So you're going to know immediately.

I'm like this guy's faking it. And that's why I didn't really love one of the interviews that we did because it was and we had some technical problems with that one too on top of everything else. But I just like let people like what they like. And if they don't like it, it's okay. I used to be soccer guy that used to make fun of it, and then I started watching some of the stuff,

and I was like, you know what? This is better than I thought, but guess what? I don't time for it. And that's the thing that's very specific to me, okay? I don't watch all the hoops to brag about it. I don't do it because I think it sounds cool, it's getting less cool, but I don't, you know, if I'm a voter and I have the responsibility of that and I don't have to pick up a kid at soccer practice.

And even if I make plans to do something and it's like, Oh, there's two games on, I want to get my eyes on here. I turn it on. And in the downtime where I don't have that or the weekends for Saturday and Sunday football, like that moment where I get there's actually nothing that you're really required to watch right now because of the job. Just joy sports watching just doesn't happen very often for me because I can't justify being like, okay, in this free moment that you have now, where there's no NBA, no NFL, no college football, that you have to deal with doing the podcast.

Like, oh, I'm going to watch another sport. Like I did it with the F1 thing because it was convenient because it was so early in the morning, but even that's waned a bit. Just because of, so, you know, that's, that's only, that's not most people, that is only specific to me and my habits of how my week plays out. But whatever. I think, no, real quick, I think, I think one thing that people kind of harped on with, with the open was like, it's, it's, it's like the classic, like, if you have nothing nice

to say, why would you say it? But I think your whole point was that, cause I, you know, I, I, I'm saying this because I gave it a shot and I wanted to watch it and I did watch it and here's what my night was in watching the sport. Like I don't think that's, I don't know, I just don't feel like that's a look at me moment. So obviously we're friends, I'm gonna have your back on most things.

People are gonna go, you're just siding with Rassillo. That's fine. But that's what I thought the point of the open was. So, make people misconstrue. Well, the other point was, I wasn't going to lie to the audience and say it's the fucking best thing I've ever seen. It may be for you and with the passion and the history and that matchup and

clearly the rating proves a ton of people were super interested in. I'm psyched that that sport is getting more and more recognition because it's becoming a better, better product in comparison to the men's team that we already talked about in the open the first time around. But what I didn't want to do was what I think some other guys are doing where they're telling you how much they love it because they know that it's like a cool thing. Like it's safer for me to tell you that I love it on Tuesday.

And then I checked the cool crowd box when in reality, like I just wanted to be honest about like, yeah, I had it on. I checked it out, but I was like, all right, I'm going to change the channel. I'm going to put some other stuff on. So I guess it on. I checked it out, but I was like, all right, I'm gonna change the channel. I'm gonna put some other stuff on. So I guess I could have just done the open and talked about the historic moment of it and let the rest of the part out, but I'm just too honest.

I can't help myself sometimes. And that's why I did it. Just too good of a person. That's talking about you too. Yeah, I do. It's because I care too much. I just mean it as like, you know, people are like, Rosilla won't lie to you.

You might not like what he says, but he's not gonna lie. Well, Abe Lincoln over here, here you go. Well, I just got so as like, you know, people are like, if you won't lie, if Rosilla won't lie to you, you might not like what he says, but he's not gonna lie. Well, Abe Lincoln over here, here you go. Well, I just got so sick of being lied to when I was younger. He can't do it. He's incapable of just, I don't know. Yeah, I know there was a safer way to do it,

but I didn't wanna do it that way. I wanted to tell you how I felt, because it's my podcast, and I was like, it is what I thought. And, uh, once it ends up in the aggregation world. And then again, the headline could have been way nastier if they wanted to make it nastier, but it was still nasty. On Twitter about it. Didn't listen to the segment either. That's the thing.

That's how it works. No. And I also think that if you're mad, you're more likely to respond. And you were like, Hey, I mean, one guy was like, you should delete that. You still have time. Just. What? Delete it? All right.

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