The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Friday Feedback!

Episode Date: December 22, 2023

Russillo is joined by Ceruti and Kyle to answer your mailbag questions in this holiday edition of Friday Feedback! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Host: Ryen Russillo Producers: Steve Ceruti, Kyle Crichton, and Mike Wargon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Okay, today it's just a Friday feedback mailbag edition here of some basketball player comps that I think everybody was for the most part pretty good with, meaning the guys on the show. So we are back in live next week. It's Friday feedback. A little special thing we do. We take a little time away from the live podcast with the NBA break figured. This might be the new routine instead of going from end of August to July.

So this is what we're going to do. The email address is Friday feedback rr at gmail. And we've got Saruti and Kyle here. So basically it kind of feels like a once a month maybe not quite that often that we do these I think we just get into it. We don't need to spend a ton of time on explaining everything that we're doing here. We did have this one it was like in a previous Friday feedback Ryan made a reference to ESPN radioers releasing a podcast on the ESPN platform without authorization from the higher-ups. Cerudis stayed mostly silent regarding that. However, I can clearly recall that Cerudis Smallman and Tommy Friespops released episodes

of a podcast referred to as the post-show pod that dropped in the same podcast feed as either the Ryan Rassillo Show or the Will Kane Show. I can't remember if Smallman ever worked on the Will Cain Show. If not, then it was definitely the Russel Show. So was this the unauthorized podcast that was referred to? Um, then there's a Will Cain question for you. That's not the same thing, right? Not even close, right?

No, that was our boss told us to do that. So we, that's why we started doing it. And then three of us started doing a pod separately, like later on that Michelle and I kind of kept doing it, although Michelle's not doing big things working on the ESPN radio morning show now. So it's come full circle for her. But no, that was authorized. That was not, I didn't even,

I don't even think I know what you're referring to on that. I thought there was like a couple guys that just decided to tape in their spare time and then put it into the actual like ESPN page. That might have happened. I don't remember that. I'm pretty sure that happened though. That does sound like something that in a previous life advice, we talked about

like everybody thinking like their friend group or whatever their work situation should be at television show. I actually do think that the ESPN radio scene could have easily been a comedy television show. Like there were so many weird dude. I mean, I like most of these people, so this isn't like out of, but like, it's just like a different kind of guy that usually worked there. Like you kind of, you probably haven't talked to girls a ton. It's the worst job at ESPN.

It's the worst job at ESPN. It's a bad job. It's a terrible hour. It's like, there's a real, there's actually a decent comedy in there somewhere. I do think there is, but then you're trying to figure out like who's the hero of that group. Because that group, you're younger and it's you're really cool. Hey, I work at ESPN. You know, there's an alternative path for me where I'm like, I would have taken that job at 25 and I would have been delusional about what kind of doors is going to open because then

after a couple of years, you're like, wait, I'm just coming in here cutting up West Coast baseball highlights to fucking two in the morning. And I'm making what an hour and I'm not an actual employee. And all of my thoughts about like, Hey, I want to get into sports. It's like, actually, every, every day I'm here is wasting another day. Like you want to do it a year, maybe two, but the entry level radio PA title, that's, there's not a worse job on the campus with that company than that one. I used to feel so bad for those guys sometimes, like if I were doing late TV,

I would go to the snack deal or the later cafeteria stuff, and I would just load up on stuff and then leave it in the room for those guys and like just almost want to give them all a fucking hug. The hero is the guy who's like uh the gym like the gym nants who's 21 or 22 and can't leave because he's taking care of his mom or something. The guy who's like clearly gonna be good but he's stuck in that thing and nobody wants to give him a shot. That's the hero of the show and then it's like the guy who's like man if he could just get a shot but he's he's in the

fucking mail room here. Gotta be honest with you, Kyle, that's really good. Thanks. Really good on the fly. And you know what I'm not gonna do? When somebody reads your script, you're like, oh, okay, but why is he there then? You know, or sounds more like a movie than a TV show. That's my favorite.

And then you write a movie. Oh, so I'm not gonna do that. Okay. I'm like, oh, it feels more like a, feels like a limited series more than a movie. All right. Follow up relatedly, what would it take for Wil Cain to be invited as a guest?

Would a cowboy Super Bowl trip merit it? And finally for Surdi, what was the thing you hated most about working on the Wil Cain show? Oh man. So, I can't ask. He said something about March Madness food vets. That was bad. So yeah, there's a March madness. He said something about March madness food vets. Oh, that was bad. So, yeah, there was this thing where we, so basically in our show window, which was three to six, there were, I think, eight tournament games that started and finished basically during that window. So we did this thing where if we randomly picked teams out of a hat, if you got a team and they lost, you had to eat something stupid.

So it was like, the felt the fish was in there, like raw spam was in there. There's a bunch of weird stuff. So that was tough. Um, uh, yeah, I had to eat spam on TV and I kind of couldn't do. Oh, I had to take a jar, like a big old spoonful of just like warm mayo, which was pretty terrible. Yeah. I remember this.

Yeah. Wasn't my favorite part, but I forgot it. Back to the will thing though. We, I think a couple of years ago couple years ago, you sort of were like, hey, should we have Will on to do this? And I don't know that I talked to you. Not that I didn't want to have Will on, but I was like, I don't know if it makes sense a ton.

I don't know. I just don't know that Will, I like Will, we're still friends, we still text a lot. He's a great dude. Other than you, he's probably like the guy who's helped me the most in the industry period. So I have nothing bad to say about him. I just don't, he's kind of gone on and done his thing and we've sort of gone different paths, but I have nothing bad to say about Will. I love Will. I'd like to have Will on. I mean, I think everybody knows that really listens to me, that I'm not super political. And yet, I think the danger was, especially when I had asked when people, I don't know, try to size me up based on like the irony of everything that was talked about with me

three years ago, three and a half years ago, was more about like, I was like, wait, how this is how this I was like actually criticizing myself to give to give someone else a compliment Um, and then it kind of turned into something else and and then I think we just both were like well if I have will on um Are people gonna be upset? Yeah And then I was kind of like well that That doesn't make any sense. Like I can't have will canine on I worked with him for all these years like you can't

Maybe it's because he's so deep in the political thing. I'll tell you this, I saw a clip of him talking about the Middle East the other day. It was so fucking good. I sent it to other people and being like, this is a guy who was brilliant on television. And by the way, the point that he made was like a really good point. It was kind of like, yeah, we kind of keep trying to get involved with these things. And, you know, I just finished this book that went through a guy that had gone through like, let's see, he went Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama. I think he'd worked with six different presidents on how to handle the Middle East. This book just came out not that long ago. And because I just wasn't educated enough and I wanted to read it. And I just, you know,

end up getting through the book. And really, so we just keep making the same mistakes, packages, different mistakes over and over again. Anyway, so Will had this moment on television where he was so good and was on the fly that I just respect his ability to be on TV. But politically, there's going to be so many people that probably still like us that would go, I can't stand him. Then you just go like, OK, well, then don't listen to that episode. And I actually don't like the idea that we'd be afraid of having somebody on

that I like and have worked with that because of his, you know, he leans really hard, right? Um, that you're not supposed to have that guy on when, I don't know. And the politics of sports thing is always, it's, it's almost a pointless. It's not a needle to thread. It's almost like a pointless exercise And why do you even want to do it? So maybe that's why Surya is like let's not especially back to three plus years ago When I felt like wait a minute what's happening? I think there was some of that where it's just like do we just wanted to do we wanted it to become a thing and

I hate I even hate that I that we have to think that way and we do think that way because like when I you know When I work with will I I didn't necessarily agree with Will on stuff, but Will was one of the best. I always said Will is one of the top five people, and he's probably closer to one than he is five, of just guys you wanna just sit down and have a beer with and talk about life. The guy is a fascinating, interesting person.

He has a ton of interests that are not political, but he also was just a good guy to talk about philosophy and just how you view parenthood and whatever, Anything. Like he's just an interesting guy overall. And I think when you disagree with people, that also makes them more interesting. And that's why I like working with Will a ton. Because I don't think he was ever disrespectful. He never pushed things on anyone in there. And I think a lot of the people that didn't like Will at ESPN, they never actually listened to Will do the show. They just didn't like the idea of Will. They didn't like the idea of Will being on ESPN radio. And I remember telling him, I was like, be careful that you're becoming that

everything isn't racist guy in first take. And I said that to him. By the way, first take wanted him to be though. First take wanted him to be that guy. Right. Hey, you be the white guy. You're the conservative. Come on and tell us why something isn't racist. And then we're going to scream at you for 15 minute segments. And then we'll do another segment with the same concept, but it'll just be different characters involved. And I was like, you've got to be careful. That's what you're going to be is that this isn't racist, this isn't racist every fucking day on the show. And, you know, the other thing that's always interesting about the dynamic of how things

work is like we criticize the people we know the least the most. And the people we know the best, we criticize lesser because you're like, oh, well, at least like I know who this person is. So whatever. I actually now that I'm thinking about it and talking about it, like I would like to do it and figure out a way to do it where it doesn't feel like, Hey, we're only talking politics the entire time. But the fact that he's done what he's done, there's probably a little of that in there. And then when I have them on them, people will say like, Oh,

Ryan's some right wing zealot because he had Wil Cane on and we can all fucking go to bed happy. Right. So also like look at the other parts of our guest list. Like it's not like you've had putting people on both sides here. I don't, you know, again, we don't talk politics. We don't even need it. I don't, I don't think we need it. I appreciate what you're doing, Surya, because like you and I are so close and you get annoyed by it. I just get annoyed about it because I just think like, just because you have one

person on it, that you agree with everything they say. Yeah. Uh, what's up guys? 62190, unimpressive Jim Statz, but I still ball as much as possible. Ken Donk, comp is a wreck league. Scotty Barnes, Great comp of that. Super Bowl this week and I saw a picture on the socials of Ryan, SVP, Stanford, Steve, Big Cat, Chris Long at dinner. I follow all of you guys and I think I get a decent feel

for your personality. So my question is, who's the alpha when you guys are hanging out? I know even in groups of guys who get along, there's always a perceived pecking order, even if it's subconscious. Here's my breakdown if you care to read it. SVP's been around the longest, this is the most successful in old school media. Big Cat probably has the craziest fans and gets recognized the most in public. Ryan's very successful and seems like he might have the most alpha energy as a single guy with a boat who lifts a ton. Five-star Steve is obviously no slouch and sounds like he can drink everyone else under the table. Chris is a former D NFL defensive lineman and two-tides super bowl

champ and probably thinks any argument Any other argument is dumb. It was really That's pretty good. I mean, I do I open it up to Kyle to guess here first cuz he's What do you think Kyle? I would have guessed Got then Chris then big cat So I'm last on the alphalus. No, isn't there Steve's probably last? Whoa. Fourth doesn't feel great. I mean, it's a, it's a pretty big table, dude. I mean, I don't know. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a big table. If you're just asking me, gut feelings, probably Scott,

right? Scott, everyone probably has Scott one, right? As an, I don't know what you're doing though. I think you're, I don't think you're, I think you're just ranking the guys that are most successful. No, I'm not because I'm thinking like if Scott's like, yeah, I don't want to do that thing. And if it's like, oh, shit, either we're not going to hang out with Scott until he decides it's time to go to bed. Like you probably be like, all right, Scott,

what do you want to do? I'm just guessing. If it's like, hey, Scott's in Vegas, like we're all here, we finally got out. We're on Scott's terms. I think maybe a little bit, right? I don't know. Well, I'll tell you what happened that night, and then you can decide.

Okay. Ceruti, do you want to offer any insight into that before maybe I... It's kind of a weird thing for me to answer. I think you're closer to one than you are five. I think Van Pelt is closer to five than he is one. Whoa. I... Big Cat doesn't strike me as alpha. Like, he's kind of just like... He's the stir shit up guy, I Big cat doesn't strike me as alpha Like he's kind of just like he's oh, he's he's the stir shit up guy. I think like he likes Yeah, I was trying with that. I want to change my answer Steve is everything else stays. Yeah, but big cat has a little alpha in him Yeah, well first of all, there's no betas at the table so we can start there. Yeah, it's okay Chris

Chris is such an alpha that he ends up becoming a beta Chris is such an alpha that he ends up becoming a beta. Like, all right, so he kind of wins, but he is happiest with everybody else being happy. He's not in charge in a way where an alpha's like, it has to all be in my terms. So when I think of alpha and what Kyle was talking about there a little bit, it can feel like alpha almost gets defined as selfishness and Chris is, there's's not I would tell you out of the group

there's not a selfish guy in the entire group and You know Scott is probably the one most at peace with everything Like why do I need to compete with any of these fucking guys, right? Like I don't need to and then you have Chris Long being like was there a competition because I won two Super Bowls He's just so above everything else. Yeah, I look like Thor over here Steve two Super Bowls. He's just so above everything else. Yeah. I look like Thor over here. Steve understands his role, but now look, he's been on TV a really long time on a very popular show. And so he gets recognized to a level now that I was not even on the radar.

The guy was on game day and sports center with van Pelt. So the last year or so of hanging out with him, I've had people come up to him and not even know who I was. I wouldn't say it's all the time, but like it's happened where that's a 0% possibility in all the other years that I travel with them. Big Cat probably, nobody gets recognized more than Van Pelt. He's six foot seven and when you see him,

you don't go, hey, I wonder if that's Van Pelt. You're like, holy shit, it's Van Pelt. He's not, we were in a poker room where we were like, Hey, can we come back in this room? Because we had a connection. And they were like, you guys can come back with Jay Z's in here right now. And I was like, we talked about it, like, of anyone in this group, who could walk in there and Dap up Jay Z and be like, have the best chance of Jay-Z not going who the fuck is this? And it was van Pelt. All right.

So van Pelt has done an incredible job of like not being, he could be an asshole if he wanted to be, he's not going to be. So I didn't even think he cares about any of this stuff. He'll go along with the flow, but then I wanted to do a dive bar thing in Old Vegas. That was the plan. It completely fell apart. Psyched I didn't organize any of it because then guys were like, why don't we just hang in the casino? We're here one more night. And we're like, all right, that makes sense. And then Chris is like, by the way, I have a table with my staff at Haka-san.

I was like, I really don't want to do that. And he's like, I don't think I want to do it either. And like, but we're gonna do it, aren't we? And Big Cat flew home. PFT came with us to Haka San with me, with Steve, with Chris long. And then I went for like a walk and Chris long is like, can I come with you for the walk? I was like, you absolutely can. We said hi to Matt liner, which was great. And then we were like, can we leave?

And the whole time I'm texting Van Pelt being like, you definitely, he's like, I'm not going with you guys. And I was like, I don't blame you. And I was like, are you still up? Let's play some fucking cards. And he goes, I'm up and let's play some cards. So we all hoof back to the win. We all meet up again.

And it was great. I don't think, I don't know if, like all of us have known each other a pretty decent amount of time. Big Cat and I are probably the most competitive of the two. Right? Cause Chris isn't competing with us. Steve has had his role now for a while. Van Peltz in a different space. If somebody comes up and recognizes Big Cat,

he goes out of his way to be like, oh, did you know this was Ryan Rosillo, where it's not him introducing me, it's him fucking with me every single time. This is my little friend, right? Because he loves it. Now I could come back and be like, Well, yeah, I was actually on ESPN for 15 years, so don't need this. But if you're really breaking it down, despite our friendship, like he's beating me. He just is. You know, he's beating me. And if we're together, he reminds me of it. And I don't know if that's an alpha move or a dick move.

But- It's not alpha. I don't think that's the alpha we're discussing. Yeah. It's just, I think he's one of those guys. And like, I like those guys. It's fine. Like they just kind of like the fuck with people. He loves the fuck with people

All right, we have a request here 36 6 3 190 no lifting stats Player comp I was debilitatingly nervous when I had to shoot free throws during my college intermural game So no, I don't have an NBA comp I think there are comps though, if you wanted to go that. I hope my email speaks for a lot of listeners. There are weeks that go by when I listen to your voice is more than my own family. That being said, there's this dynamic that occurs in my brain where I kind of feel like I know you guys on a personal level. Obviously, I know this is a one-sided relationship. I'm not expecting Kyle to recognize me at Frolick Room,

but geez, I don't care what anyone says. You guys are my friends. I'd love to mix it up a bit with my request. Can you guys go around the room and maybe tell me one thing about each of you guys that would surprise the listeners? For example, I think it would surprise us if Ceruti was really into bondage.

He's never been punched in the face, I can tell you that. Yeah, it was a lot of rough houses. Yeah, you know. Yeah. Yeah. It was a rough house. Yeah. You know, I like control. If if Kyle was super to making his own mushroom tinctures, he seemed oddly specific and finally was still the one we found out you had a thing for kitten videos on YouTube.

It doesn't have to be raunchy. Well, that's an incredible spelling. That's a relief. Raunchy or hugely revealing, but something that gets us laughing perhaps or being like, what the fuck, wow, everyone has a weird quirk. Yeah, all right, what do we got?

Who wants to go first? I got one. I don't think I've told you guys this. I cannot close my left eye by itself. What? Dudes at the bar think it's crazy. I don't want to really do it now because I can't do it. And also like my mouth, I make a stupid face.

My mouth like opens and shit. So anyway, I found this out. I can close my right. I cannot close my left eye. I found this out because I was shooting guns back in my like, what I was last weekend. No, but we're talking about it again, which is why this matters. And I was, I was, I shoot, like I shoot righty, but I can't close my left eye. So I was

missing everything because I was closing the eye that I was putting down the, you know, down the barrel there or down the, down the site. And so we figured out what happened. And the only really answer to this is that my mom made me an eye patch out of like a piece of leather and a shoelace. And dudes are talking about going to the gun range, and I really don't think I want to wear an eye patch. But otherwise, I'll just shoot lefty, which is probably more dangerous, right? I mean, that gun might just fly out of my hand if we're talking pistols. Or I got to fucking get an eye patch and hang out with my bar buddies at a range, and I don't think that's going to go well. So, yeah, I can't think that's gonna go well So

Yeah, I can't close my left eye. I just tried it's it's definitely harder to close my left one But I can you're doing it I can't I can't wink with my left eye, but I can close it like in a weird way, but I could wink with my right eye Yeah, I just double-checked to see if I could do it. Yeah, but I think we're Wait, most people I met could do it. I just can't close your left eye and you're worried about shooting a pistol right-handed Yeah, because you really we want to be looking down the you know You want to be looking down with the eye of the side of the body that you're holding the gun with

So rifles and and I bat lefty. That's another fun fact But I bat lefty and everything else is righty and I can't close my left. I thought that's cool. That's a good fact and everything else is righty, and I can't close my left eye. I love those guys, that's cool. That is a good fact. So Rudy? I guess I have two that kind of came to mind, not as interesting as that. I have a pretty big like birthmark on my left shoulder.

My friend's called. How big are we talking? My friend's, it's pretty big, it takes up like, it's kind of patchy, but it takes up most of my shoulders. It's dark. Like a salami slice? No, cause it's not like a circle or anything. It's just like kind of like a blob almost.

Oh, okay. Cool. That's way cooler. My friends call it my poop shoulder, so that's great. Thanks to my friends for that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so if I'm ever at a pool or something, you see me, and I got kind of a weird birthmark there. That's kind of what it is. I don't know what... I gone to dermatologist. They don't they're just like, yeah,

just a different pigmentation. Um, so nothing serious. It's just I have I have a poop shoulder. Yeah, so It's gonna take at least two more time before I don't laugh at that. It's great My other one was I am I'm uh, I'm like really into espresso Probably like a very unhealthy obsession with espresso. We just needed the first one, but. Well, I wanted to like, not everybody think I was a huge loser. So let me just try to like bring a cool one to the table, but I'm like, I'm really good at making espresso at home.

I hope that worked out for everybody. We lost Kyle. Kyle's left eye just closed on its own. Still worked up. Fuck yeah dude. Poop shoulder. Good times. Good times. I'm going to get it to you.

Just made me realize that Cerurides never had a shirt off around me. Nope. Because I didn't know about this. I never had a shirt off around me. Nope. Nope. Cause I didn't know about this. Yeah. I've had my shirt off around you. So not a tank top guy then. No, I will, you know, it's, it's right. It's just kind of like right in the back shoulder part.

So. Oh, okay. So most tank tops, you'd have to be really looking at it. If I was wearing a tank top, like close to me, but like I said, it's not, it's not super, super dark, but it's definitely darker. So yeah. Awesome. I forget I have it it's not super, super dark, but it's definitely darker. So, yeah. Awesome. I forget I have it most of the time, to be honest with you.

I'm never going to forget. Yeah, I don't have anything like that. You got nothing? No, I mean, now that you guys went first, I feel like mine's stupid, but I just like it's a fun dynamic of the Saruti-Risillo relationship that a girl that I hung out with who I wasn't hanging out with at the time, and I hosted the only party I ever hosted wanted to hook up a Saruti at my house. Yeah, that was awkward. I was going to bring that up when we were talking about like unwanted

texts from people and a previous life advice. Yeah. And because my wife did, did know about that. I told her about that cause I don't know, it's just kind of funny, but, and I didn't know like I was, she was kind of mad because I, I felt like I needed to say more. So I guess I, I, I understood what the guy was saying was like, Hey, do I just, do I leave it with the heart emoji? Do I add more to it? Cause you're like, am I being a dick?

Am I letting her down? And like, do I have to like soften the blow a little bit? So I kind of did the same thing. So I kind of, I said, what kind of hair were you, were you were you sporting that I had a bun then the bun the bun played bun did play Was that the best okay? It was I I enjoyed it. I don't want to grow it back out again I would have it if I could have it tomorrow, but I don't want to grow back out again It was definitely better than the it was way better than the the twilight phase Yeah

Yeah, well, that's because I wasn't seeing the sunlight for like the in between hair is tough. I think I think that stops a lot of dudes from, from trying to grow stuff out because the that in between stuff is just weird. It's a good six months of being having weird hair. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I let everybody down on this one. I just think people like when I was like, Hey, everybody have something for this. I just think that when you think about Surya and I, the dynamic that there would be somebody that was at my house, I didn't know about it right away.

And I didn't care. That was the other part, but I just thought it was hilarious. Cause the funny thing is the person was always trying to give me shit. And I was like, yeah, you try to hook up with my producer at my house. So I think that's actually worse. Uh, I did misread that situation pretty badly too.

Um, I did not think, I did not think that she was into me and then she was into me. Yeah. I thought it was just like, Oh, she wanted to come on the show. Maybe she did. Maybe that was the whole, the longterm plan. It was like, Hey, and with the producer, then I can start doing regular hits on her solo, but didn't work out. Yeah.

We'll leave it at that. Uh, we're going to leave it, we're not as vague as I would have liked to have been, and so we'll just stop now. Just leave it alone. Should we wear birthmarks or anything? Then we could not be used that. No, you did not get birthmarks.

You did not get birthmarks. Yeah, you must have sucked in Carmen San Diego. You're like, oh, it's Saruti again. All right, hey everybody, 511, 175, average dude with average Jim Stachis had a baby in November. Just want to let you know that anytime we need her to sleep, we put on the Ryan Rousseau podcast that works like a charm. Something about Ryan's deep voice and excellent sports takes puts her right out. Appreciate the pod and keep up the good work. I hear this once a week.

She really likes tails from the couch. I'm serious. I don't know what it is, whatever. If you guys could stop putting putting football tackle sound in. That'd be great. No, you think I, there's any way I could make like side money on just, I'll read stuff slower, maybe even a little softer and you just put it on and babies fall asleep. I hear this, it's been going on now.

Yeah. Instead of rainwater, it's just me reading box scores. Imagine if that's how I ended up making my mark. I'd be on Ellen. I kind of think that could work. Yeah. Like, Hey, here's the thing about Anthony Edwards, like when he's coming off a ball screen and the way he has such conviction, but still leaves a passing

option open form and he gets deep in the paint, like he's still looking at those corners, especially as it gets more comfortable in this offense. That me doing that. You could paint extra $2.99 a month for no curses. There's no more in curseful ways. Not when the audience is all babies. You can't curse. Don't be ridiculous.

There might be something there. That'd be awesome if somebody reached out and was like, let's just try it and see what happens. I hear about it all the time. Speaking of more content that people don't love listening to I love when canal is on and always is a huge fan of recital I want to continue to hear him on the show But for the love of God, can we please stop hearing the same conversation about Danny's tweets and his sec opinions? The whole conversation is based on the theory Danny has about the sec that theory can't definitively be proven right or wrong

It can't be proven right or wrong. I'm pretty sure it's been definitively proven wrong. The amount of hours you spent talking SEC with Danny would make Malcolm Gladwell stand and applaud. It's the same conversation for close to a decade. He's right, he's right. All right, but I don't think it's like the main part of every time we have Danny on, it just comes up.

We bring it up at the time. I just see a tweet from him where I go, I mean, can you think about a worse course of events for him? Alabama loses to Texas, struggles, uh, struggles against Southern Florida. And he's like, it's over. It's over for Bama. They're never going to compete for championships again. Definitive statement.

The one year where it's getting off to a start since 2007, where you're like, what's going to happen here with Alabama? They figured out they win a game against Auburn. They shouldn't win. Um, but for the rest of it, they handle it. They beat Georgia, knock Georgia out of the playoff, go to overtime with the team that won the championship in Michigan. And by the way, by getting in, leave out his school, Florida state.

Okay. You want to talk about a tweet going fucking south? It's that one. So yeah, I can't let those things go and I have to ask him about it and Like when we had it was right time when we had him on the last time it was with I think it was with big shay, right? That was like the right content call Danny's the one for to say guy you want to hear from when for to say gets left out of the Playoff like it was I thought that was so if a little bit of SEC stuff comes up I mean, maybe we're just being sensitive because we're too close to it. Maybe we're wrong. I don't know. Wait, I think the emailer is right, but there's always a tweet or two, because he's insane about it. Okay. And that's why I want to just tap into that insanity every

now and then. But he's not wrong about it being the same conversation. It's just different pieces. It's the same conversation with just different characters. But I don't know that we're going to stop. Maybe. All right, note to self. This is why First Take talks about the Dallas Cowboys every other, you know, every day. Sometimes. Yeah, like I, I hate being repetitive and some things I can't avoid. And I'll know that like, Hey, you've told this anecdote, like, you've done this one, I went to a cowherd this week, and I was like, you're kind of going to some of your routine stuff, like access to hate, hate we've never been nor divided. Oh yeah. Ask George Washington that one. Right? So there's stuff that you kind of can't avoid and then you're right. Like then I see a first

take thing and I go, you're fine. I keep, I always ask Saruti, like keep me on something where it's like, eh, I of did this one quiet the compound. Yeah. You know, if I can took the rack of balls out shot in front of all the GMs before anybody else, uh, more content questions, I do think we're too online. I do, I do think, I think there are shows that do Twitter podcasts way more where they're just like everything in their pods, just stuff that they saw on Twitter, which is a bad way to do pods.

It's talking specifically about one pod. Um, I do think I'm not saying we don't do that, but we, we, we do do that sometimes. And I try to check ourselves to be like, okay, I know we're in this world of like, we think this is a thing that's happening, but not everybody is aware of the thing that we're even mad about right now. Yeah. You're right. I think Twitter acts have made all of us worse hosts across the board. I think it's hurt our industry because we stopped talking to the audience and

we start either, which I will do preemptively talking to an audience that's going to disagree or I'll start talking to one or two people and I'm not talking to the audience. And it's made us all worse. And I try to avoid it. Um, and I think whenever anybody comes to me, like, Oh, it's all you can just, like, it's just absolutely not what I do all the time, but I still do it more than I wish I ever did. But it's the candle Roy to online.

Yeah. All right. Why no college basketball coverage. 42 years old, six, five, two, 45 big guy here. Uh, this weekend we had Houston, Kansas, North Carolina, Duke, Tennessee, Kentucky, and no mention of college basketball in the pod. I grew up in Connecticut. Shout out to Ryan for the Xavier high nod at a pod. A while back, Die Hard, Yukon fan. Shout out Xavier, some of the best high school uniforms in the business. I would rock a throwback

Xavier soccer jersey. Could I just say that when I played football in high school, we lost, I played for South Houston High. We lost to Xavier in the national, in the, in the state championship game. They were, it was kind of unfair because we were a public school and they were private school and that's actually where Will Leviss went. Didn't play against Will Leviss. But I did play against this guy named Amaris Bovee, who was, went to Iowa, played for the Lions. He was pretty nasty.

But yeah, Xavier's a good school. I love that. It's the reason most accomplished athlete on this podcast. I wasn't that good. I just, I just, you know, you played man and you were small as could be and you're out there. I have a ton of respect for that. There's a lot more to that story, but I'll be more could be interested in it.

Okay. Well, maybe the next one. Yeah. Thursday feedback show. Uh, love the NBA NFL college football mature. I'm just curious why there's no college basketball love, except come to tournament, not looking for weekly coverage. I guess it doesn't pay the bills.

Maybe once a month, every other couple of weeks gets me through weekly commutes from Middletown, Xavier. Hey. To White Plains, New York. Middletown, New York. No, Middletown, Connecticut. Connecticut, yeah. Oh, we got a Middletown too.

Yeah, right. I don't watch it, man. I don't watch it, and I loved it. I had a stretch, I would would say early 2000s to maybe 2010 where there's probably some nights where I would have rather watched college basketball than even the NBA. But now with the way the job is and the way, I mean, baseball just kind of disappeared off the map. And for what we do and the way we're doing it, I don't have the time to also then watch college basketball. And if I just dip my toes into Duke, North Carolina, I don't really know what's going on.

I could cram and read and get away with a 10 minute open, but you just not gonna be as good. Just not gonna be as good. So I do think it's funny. Like I had somebody go, you don't do any WNBA. It's like, yeah, well, because we did so many hockey and baseball segments this year, I guess. Yeah. You know, like so we'll do a tournament thing. I don't even think we did so many hockey and baseball segments this year, I guess. Yeah. You know, like, so we'll do a tournament thing. I don't even think we did a tournament thing. Did we do one last year? I mean, it's bad. It's bad that we're not really doing it, but I'm just telling you, if you heard

me do it and force trying to get one, one in a month, it's not going to be good. You wouldn't be able to make yourself do it even. I don't even think you would be able to make yourself do it. If you didn't like to do a segment to just, what are you, look at some stats and then just go for it. I don't know. Yeah, wait, let's do kind of what it takes. I'll tell you where you can go though. Yeah, that's gonna say, Cal is our home for college youths. Yeah, you can go to One Shiny Pod. Also, you can come see us at Durham on March 8th at the Carolina Theater, 8 p.m., right before Carolina Duke. I don't think there's anything,

like I didn't think it would get to the podcast of being basically pro and college football in the NBA and then just assorted interests. That's kind of what the podcast has become. I never would have thought I'd gotten to the point where I was totally fine not talking baseball. You know, I used to watch everything, not only the Red Sox, but like I used to just throw on other baseball games and be into it. I'd watch Sunday Night Baseball religiously. I didn't care who was playing. I was like, cool. And in my weekend, it's Sunday Night Baseball. Good way to prep for the upcoming radio week and all that kind of stuff once we're outside of the basketball and football season. And I can only tell you that I watch so much basketball and football. And when it's that overlap for September, October, November, December and January, it's really tough.

And when it's over, I don't want to add more to it. So, you know, I'll watch the Big East every now and then. Obviously, I watched Johnny's and then Big East Tournament. Did you watch that profits game? Tough. Yeah. That's all right. Look, they're ahead of schedule. Yeah. That's all right. Look, they're ahead of schedule.

Uh, look, I'll get into it, you know, and I'll, I'll start watching stuff. And I had a blast, you know, I've watched all the tournament games just like everybody else is, but I'm a total casual with it now. I'm a total casual baseball. And I don't think you want to hear me do casual segments on that stuff. If we're going to get into the industry a little bit too, I think, you know, you know how people are like, oh, hey, you know, the three point shot or like analytics of like ruin sports, right? Or especially in baseball, or it's like, all right, home run or strikeout, like, and it

just kind of kills some of the game. I do think there's some of that because we can sort of see like what really, really works when it comes to segments that we do. And like television shows can do that down to the minute. So they've just seen that like, and again, if this gets back to the first take, talk about the Cowboys and the Lakers, when they talk about those teams, those are their highest rated segments.

And when they talk about baseball, they don't rate. And that's just kind of, I think the more that we've learned about that, and we've known it for a while now, but that's just why it's gone in this direction, the less these like main national shows are gonna talk about these sports because they know that their best numbers come from different areas.

The guy who wanted to be on blow Deck, the persistent pirate we timed in. He said that we, Friday Feedback, would have been a perfect fit for him and to have him on. It wasn't a perfect fit for us in a pre-show meeting. Don't worry. We'll still call you. Don't worry, we'll still call you. Don't worry about it. Put the life advice segments on YouTube.

Well, what's the latest with that? What's going on? Yeah. So, I guess next week we are launching a YouTube channel, the Ryan Roussill YouTube channel. Most of Ryan's stuff has gone up on the ringer main feed, which has mostly just been open some life advice, some other segments, some interviews and stuff. But the, the, we will now have our own YouTube channel where we can post life advice.

We can post opens, we'll post some original content. Maybe Ryan will do, do you want to do your like bill hot girl walks where you're doing the YouTube shorts, you know, just solo walking in Manhattan beach, giving off takes. I've been seeing more of those. Anybody's been seeing more of those? Or is it just, I know building in, I know that building invent the walk and talk, but I'm seeing a lot of people doing walk and talks now. Or is that just when you get a car,

now you see that car everywhere? I think it's probably that, not to, you know, say what Bill is doing isn't good. I just think it's probably, yeah, you're probably more used to it. Yeah, we'll figure out some stuff here. I'm excited, excited you're gonna go on. Just throw up that pooch older video. That'd be good, it'd be good. Yeah, the first one would some stuff here. I'm excited. I'm excited to go on that pooch older video that be good

Yeah, the first one will be sturdy taking the shirt off I'm not sure I want to see it to be honest. I think you'd be I think you'd be underwhelmed We saw him as Kyle just like dies dying I think you'd be underwhelmed like it's not like insane. It's just a darker shoulder. The name, it's just the name. You've named it perfectly. I don't know. Shout out to my friend, Jeremy.

There you go. Shout out to germs. People want to know the TV setup. Haven't we done that already? Yeah. I don't even really know what it is, but you got multiple. Multiple TVs, but now the way I can do it, I can stagger it out on two. Where if I'm jumping in between

games and then way YouTube holds your spot, basically, you know, it's like calling fives on a game where I'll be in a game and then I'm like, all right, I'll get out of this one, but let me see where it is. And then I go back to it and it just picks me right up where it is. If you have everything recorded, if you just say I want all NBA recorded, it's, it's been awesome, man. Shout out to YouTube TV for, uh, for what I do, but it also means I don't have to have, I have two main TV set up in the downstairs room and then there's three televisions over the bar behind it, but I would have to get seated in a way that I was pivoting. So the way I bought the house, it already was set up that way. So I have

them all wired, but it would have to be for like a bunch of people over for like the tournament or something to run five different feeds in there. I'm not gonna put up five basketball games at the same time with the setup, it's not. I can do the job and watch everything I need to watch with the two jumping around and knowing that I'm staying up later watching games that aren't live.

But at least that way I can get my eyes on what I need to see. This makes me think, have you ever used like one of those VR headset things? Like I got the MetaQuest 3 and you can watch. So basically you put this thing on and you can have like, I don't know if it's unlimited TV screens and TVs, but basically it puts TVs in front of you and you can just move your head to see whatever TV and whatever game you wanna watch. It's kinda sick.

That does sound pretty sick. I don't know that. So if you don't wanna buy like four TVs, there you go. There's like stats and shit. You could just add everything there. You could have Twitter up on the side and follow everything in real time. It's pretty cool.

You look like a fool with an asshole with everyone else, but it's pretty cool. Yeah, you have an internet. It's pretty cool. I'm not there yet though. Like somebody comes over. Somebody comes over and they're like, you know, I'm sitting there with my goggles on next to my blow up doll.

Having a fucking drink. How are you if you need anything? Let me know. There's. There's Ryan. Oh, he's in the metaverse. So we leave him alone. He's not.

He's selling his TVs. Said I'm good. It sold all of his bedding for his spare guest rooms. Okay. Uh, not at DIST is Ryan have hyperactive, impulsive ADHD. You can fuck off. Okay. Wow.

Just the, the number of emails trying to like get in my head now and figure out like what my deal is, which I don't know, whatever. And that was a little harsh. Thanks for the email. Let's see. All right, let's do this one for the last one. This guy put some work into it.

The gang is basketball comps and more avid listener from the UK. My fitness gym stats are terrible. So I'll get down to business. I was thinking recently about basketball comps with the gang, not relating to their actual games, but rather the character and role on the pod. I came up with a below. I'm nervous. All right. Kyle is the gunner of a six man, probably Lou Will. He comes in for a short period of time and will immediately start putting up shots. As Doc recently said on Bill's pot about Lou Williams, if you're not scoring, you're not playing.

Kyle's at his best when he's aggressive in small bursts. He has the talent to take over a pot in those bursts. And like Lou Williams, his extracurricular activities are spicy to say the least. Don't hate it. All right, no, not as bad as I thought it would be. That's great. I don't hate that at all. his extracurricular activities are spicy to say the least. Don't hate it. Not as bad as I thought it would be. I don't hate that at all. I think that's great.

That's great. Cerruti is the ultimate glue guy, Iguodala or Shane Badiag. If we go back a little further, maybe Robert Orie or Derek Fisher, he's not interested in box score numbers, but everybody knows that good shit happens when he's on the floor and the advanced metrics love him. He's making connecting passes, tough offensive rebounds, crucial corner threes that never turns the ball over. He's also got the humility to make sure he's playing around a star.

He followed Ryan to the ringer because he knows what his limitations are. He sticks to a job and he does it bloody well. I don't hate it. Don't hate it at all. All right. Ryan's the star. No one is questioning it. He gives off the obvious alpha energy, so he never needs to say it. I mean, look, this is what the podcast is.

So, you know, it's not... So, look, I think the way he's saying it is very nice too, but there's... It's not like the three of us got together. It's like, man, Ryan's really... I was just like, no, no. Yeah, wait. Right. I wanted to give him a hardened Kyairi comp just for the reaction,

but I couldn't make it work. So I ended up with my favorite player in the league, Jimmy Butler. Like Jimmy, Ryan has, uh, was a little later into the big time than many of his peers, Butler drafted at 22. They've also both come from backgrounds that give them no advantage in their professions. Uh, Jimmy had a little tougher than I did, but I understand what you're saying here. They have a chip on their shoulder

and they use their slights real or imagined as motivation. They both care far more about the win, a good pod for Ryan than any individual awards and are prepared to do the small, unnoticed, gritty things to get their squad over the line. Their willingness to do the small things repeatedly, Ryan watching every available minute of the NBA, his attention to detail

and fairness and evaluating players, more than makes up for any weaknesses in their games. Three-point shooting for Jimmy, it propensity to go off topic when trying to fully explain himself for Ryan. That's fair. Away from the day jobs, they're both tycoons. Ryan with his property empire and Jimmy with big face coffee. Thoughts? I like it because I think you guys are like the although, you know, we could point to what was it Jimmy Butler's? What do you say? He wakes up at 3am to go to the gym. It's like letting you tell people that just go to the gym, dude I don't think you do that But I think you're just like kind of quiet work guys who get shit done

The only thing is he you're more available than Jimmy butler is Jimmy butlers heard a lot you play more games You know you do you put out more content. Sorry. I don't take any time off. He takes off more. No days off I don't I don't have a minute of time to talk about it You're more available than Jimmy Butler is. Jimmy Butler's heard a lot. You play more games. You know, you put out more content. Sorry. I don't take any time off. He takes off more time. No days off. I don't have a Minnesota on my work resume.

When I just walked around, I was like, fuck everybody. You're a loser, you're a loser. Then sat down with Rachel Nichols in a pre-planned interview. Well, the ESPN thing, it didn't get there, but... It didn't get there, maybe in another couple of years. Is Jimmy Butler accomplished enough in his profession? Well, yes.

I'm fucking serious. You can think this is egotistical as you want. Look, I'd rather be doing what he's doing. And I also think I wouldn't charge my coworkers as much for coffee as he did in the bubble. I think he might be more of a dick than I am, which may some people would disagree and say, but I would just say you don't really,

you can't truly think that you know me this well, or maybe we don't know Jimmy Butler that well. I probably like Spolstra. I've never, I would never get in an argument with Spolstra, or maybe we don't know Jimmy Butler that well. Uh, I probably like Spolstra. I've never, I would never get in an argument with Spolstra, but I also don't work with him every single day. But yeah, I'll throw it out there. Has Jimmy, like what is Jimmy a top 10 player in a league? I mean, we do, we flirt with that conversation, especially when he's lighting

up Milwaukee like he was and taking over Boston in the beginning of that series. But that's kind of not really who he is. Or maybe you say like, Hey, maybe you Boston in the beginning of that series. But that's kind of not really who he is. Or maybe you say like, hey, maybe you don't look at Ryan that way. But when he has to bring it, he brings it. I don't know. Do you think his career is the same percentage over? Because if you pick the different guy that's already retired, then it's like, that guy's percentage is already done. Do, do you think they're like similar? Like I know that your career would be longer. Call me old.

Well, I'm just saying he's not a spring chicken either, right? He's in his prime is what we would say, right? You guys both prime guys, but like if you extrapolated how long that career is, his NBA career is, and then you extrapolated how long your career it would be, might be around similar percentage points though, right? Definitely prime, but nothing lasts forever.

I don't know. I don't know about that one. I mean, basically any single cop you can come up with, you could find holes in it. I think it's a good one. But who I'm trying. I'm just looking at a list right now, like who other, you know, the top NBA players would be like you're not LeBron for a million reasons. I don't even think you'd want to be LeBron though. I don't know.

I had maybe like, uh, I'm not, I'm not accomplished enough to be like, there's, there's a very short list of people doing this and Scott. I'm not Tim Duncan, right? Scott Vidopoulte would be Tim Duncan. Didn't leave. Didn't leave grind multiple titles. He could be Steph. Oh, me, I can't be Steph.

No, no, no, Scott Steph. I so I you're going to you're going to think this is disrespectful, but it's actually not like Kevin Durant crossed my mind in that, like constantly like chip on the shoulder, trying to prove like that. You know, because like, you know, you go to school and say, didn't get the recognition you wanted to, went to the Nets. Now he's made some bad decisions to food to team up with.

And I don't think you have in that sense, but with the chip on their shoulder, elite guy, but probably doesn't maybe get enough credit for whatever reason. I'm just trying to think, cause like that, that I think is where you're at. But I don't think like the off the court stuff, you guys have nothing in common,

I think off the court or off the mic, I should say too. Yeah, he spends a lot of time talking with people and I would have zero interest in doing that. He's got his rings though, I don't have my rings yet. What's a rings, like sports at me? No, it's not sports at me. I have an idea what it is, but I don't I don't have it yet. Do you guys have sports at me?

I don't know, like for podcasts. No, for the no, for the radio. Do you get, do they do that for radio or no? No, it's television. Is there a word for that? Is there a word for radio? I think there's Marconi's Marconi. Yeah. Yeah.

But I don't know that I met anybody that was. We weren't winning any awards. I mean, the main show. I don't even know if met anybody that was, we weren't winning any awards. I mean, the main, I don't even know, do they have sports, Marconi's? I honestly don't even know. One year, the talkers 100 named the top 100 radio shows and they didn't even name Scott or I. We'd been on the year, like, I don't know,

three or four years. The Joe Morgan, Yahoo Sports baseball show was 97. Those are all people who pay, right? That's the thing, like, I get hit up for the webbies all the time. They're like, hey, webbies are coming, and all you gotta do is pay us whatever the fee is, and they will email you, and they're like,

the date has passed, but if you still pay us, you can still be considered. So that's probably what some of these smaller ones are, right? They're just like, just pay us, and then we'll, you could be in the top 100. Yeah, I don't know. I've never been invited to one of those things. I've never been asked for this. When it comes to the awards circuit for what I've done. And look, sometimes the end of the year. Look, having GQ name me the best sports podcast of the year is not a ring. And normally,

I can tell based on who the author is, I'll be like, Oh, I'm not going to be on this list. You know, pick some obscure cool guy one where you're like, yeah, it's like 5,000 listeners. Great choice. Uh, yeah, I don't know. I don't, I don't know that we have a perfect, I almost thought Paul Pierce, because when it mattered 2008 finals MVP, like, you knew you could trust him and

bring it guy played all the time Seruti massive eye roll there. No, I'd not not not an eye roll. I Yeah, I hate it. What just what just happened. We're losing no I did I know I just didn't love it when I first heard it I guess it's marinating a little bit now. It's not it's not terrible I just didn't love it when I first heard it. I guess it's marinating a little bit now. It's not terrible. It's gotta be somebody who suits up to an absurd level. Like I don't wanna be AC Green.

Cause that's not a good one. All right, we'll keep working on it. Thank you though, very nice email. And Rudy went into it thinking it was gonna be awful. Maybe we'll accept a really negative one on basketball comps from whoever. The email address for this incredible production here, I can't believe we did 50 minutes.

Friday feedback, rr.atgmail.com. And we'll have the YouTube channel out next week. Find yourself a podcast, present select states. Must be 21 and older. Present select states. Fanduil is offering online sports wagering in Kansas under agreement with Kansas Star Casino LLC. Gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit Fanduil.com forward slash RG in Colorado, Iowa, Kentucky,

Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Tennessee, Vermont, and Virginia. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXT-STEP to 533-4-2 in Arizona. 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org forward slash chat in Connecticut. 1-800-9 with it in Indiana. 1-800-522-4700 or visit ksgamblinghelp.com in Kansas. 1-877-770-STOP in Louisiana. Visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Visit 1-800-gambler.net in West Virginia or call 1-800-522-4700 in Wyoming.

Hope is here. Visit gamblinghelplinema.org or call 800-327-5050 for 247 support in Massachusetts or call 1877-8HOPENY or text HOPENY in New York.