The Ryen Russillo Podcast - NFL Week 1 Awards, Rookie QB Struggles, Best Rosters, and the Top Tier of CFB Teams With Todd McShay
Episode Date: September 9, 2024Russillo starts the show with his thoughts on how the rookie QBs played in Week 1 (0:49). Then he transitions to college football to recap the top teams' weeks and share how meaningful sports can be (...21:40). Next, he’s joined by Todd McShay to rank the best college teams, break down the play of rookie QBs, and discuss the most talented NFL rosters (34:35). Plus, Life Advice with Kyle and Ceruti (88:42)! Should I buy another cat? Check us out on YouTube for exclusive clips, live streams, and more at https://www.youtube.com/@RyenRussilloPodcast The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Host: Ryen Russillo Guest: Todd McShay Producers: Steve Ceruti, Kyle Crichton, and Mike Wargon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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On today's podcast, we have a lot of football to get to. I start with the NFL rookie QBs,
all the young guys and thoughts on that best win, worst loss, a couple of awards. We'll run through
almost the entire slate, which was awesome for week one to open it up some college ball.
We're gonna have McShay on talk about yours big win against Michigan. We'll take through almost the entire slate, which was awesome for week one to open it up. Some college ball, gonna have McShay on,
talk about Ewer's big win against Michigan.
We'll take a look at the rankings, the things we like,
the things we don't like, and also if there were a fourth
team amongst the big three in college football,
who could that team potentially be?
And McShay's gonna run through some of the quarterbacks
we're worried about, and also we'll take a look at the most
talented rosters in the NFL.
We've got that, a pick for you on Monday Night Football and Life Advice.
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The end of the one o'clock windows, I gotta to be honest with you, a bit of a fever dream. Was having a hard time keeping up with everything, but I was especially
locked in on the young QBs and that's where I want to start.
Not great, Bob.
Caleb Williams.
Uh, he's the first number one pick to win a week one of his rookie
year since David Carr in 2001.
That's the good news.
Um, that's about the only good thing from this day.
As far as Caleb Williams is concerned.
Traditional stats, not great, 14 to 29, 93 yards, no touchdowns, no picks.
Yards per attempt, 3.2, five carries for 15 yards.
The advanced numbers are worse.
If you look at expected points added, he had a minus 0.39 EPA, which ranks 36 out of 39 week one
rookie quarterbacks since 2001.
Um, the overriding theme of yesterday and it's not even just
the rookies, but it just feels like so many young QBs once the
pressure cranks up, they bail from the pocket immediately.
They just don't want, I remember being my first job, minor league baseball,
watching baseball every single night for months.
And despite the prospect rankings and the velocity and the stuff and the hope, it
was a very common thing in double A that just none of the guys could pitch on
the inside of the plate.
They just couldn't.
And I know it's not the same thing, but it's, it's something that.
I was reminded of yesterday when I was watching so many of the quarterbacks,
the second they felt pressure, even if the pressure wasn't really there,
the real pressure or assumed pressure, it's just, I'm going to bail.
And now there's no progressions.
There's no reads.
It's just, I got to try to find this one throw or then maybe I'm going to run.
And so we all understand it's week one here is bad as some of the players are
and probably repeat this just to emphasize the point.
That's what I saw a lot of from the younger quarterbacks.
Couple things with Caleb.
He had some low release throws, which is really what we got really excited about
with the arm angles and everybody hoping we can get these baseball players back
there like Mahomes throwing from all these ridiculous arm slots, but for Caleb,
I think there were a couple of times he got low with the release and there's
just stuff when it's real on Sunday, you know, that doesn't work.
That doesn't work in this league the way it does on Saturdays.
Um, I'm not going to sit here and worry about it.
I forget.
I would have loved with my hopes for him, for him to be flawless, to be
awesome, to throw a ton of touchdowns and all that kind of stuff.
Didn't happen. And he was bailed out by the defense. Special teams stepped up as well.
The first three points of the game started at the Tennessee 34 yard line after a kick return.
They had a block punt touchdown. Their longest drive on offense was 11 plays or 44 yards, which was
the field goal that made it 17-13.
Then there was a fumble.
Chicago starts at the Tennessee 31.
They gained one yard on that drive.
So it's 17-16.
And maybe the worst play you'll see all season considering the situation.
Now granted, there'll be games later in the season that have higher stakes.
So it's hard to just classify the Will Levis pick six is the
worst play you'll see all season, but it's already nominated.
That's how bad it was.
So on third and six, the Tennessee 45, Levis slides to his left into more pressure.
Speaking of young guys against pressure and then tries to backhand some desperation
heaved to the sideline to his receiver on the sideline.
Chicago picks it up, runs it back for a pick six.
When you look at what Tennessee's defense was doing and how they were controlling this football game, how much the offense, again, the only good drive
from the offense was 11 plays, 44 yards to give Chicago another touchdown in this
spot is one of the worst decisions you saw from a quarterback yesterday.
So I don't know if we'll have another play that's actually worse than that. It seems a little quick to say nothing will surpass that.
But the fact I'm even suggesting it could be, I just want to make sure we understand
game situation, control, everything going on.
You can't have that happen.
After Leves had had the fumble previously, he was on the sideline yelling.
I don't know if that was to hype himself up.
Maybe he was trying to tell everybody,
don't worry about it, we believe in all that stuff.
I don't know.
I don't know the dynamic of Will Levis.
I can just imagine if I was like a five year player
from Mississippi playing on the D line,
looking at this guy yelling at me
when he's playing this poorly.
Again, he might've been just yelling at himself
to get fired up.
I don't know.
So we're gonna call that one the Freddie Brown Award.
I don't know that I'll do that every week.
I don't like to moon that to Freddie as a big East guy, but it was atrocious.
Let's start Jay and Daniels.
Some good traditional stats.
And it's really about the rushing 16 carries, 88 yards, two touchdowns, throwing
you a 17 to 24, one 84 zero picks.
The passer rating actually historically stands up a lot better because some of
these working quarterbacks have to do well in their week one debut.
But the two touchdown drives are when they were down 23-7 and 30-14.
And I really think once you're playing a defense because these guys can't really do much and we're not worried about our offense slowing down.
I think the game is just played a little bit different.
You'll see late touchdowns that make you feel better, but maybe really in the flow of the game aren't that great.
So maybe Tampa's off the gas a bit.
Um, he bails way too quickly, at least in week one and again, week one, week one,
week one, he wants to run yesterday.
It's just, and it works kind of, but when you're Terry McLaren and you got one
target at the half, it's probably but when you're Terry McLaren, you got one target at the half.
It's probably not what you're looking for.
He also can't slide.
So if you're a Washington fan looking at this top pick, who's the super dynamic
and athletic Heisman guy who you have all your hopes on, but also can't slide.
I imagine that's bringing back some bad memories.
All the targets in the first half were running backs and tight end except for the one to Luke
McCaffrey who was a completion for zero yards. So Baker had the highest passer rating of any
quarterback in week one. Mike Evans had two touchdowns. He's the only other receiver with
two touchdowns in week one other than Stephane Diggs. The end zone throw to Evans just feels
like he's on the very short list of, of the guys on that play where we see
it happen and how often it doesn't work where it's like, you guys can't come up with anything else.
But then I think we'd probably just overlook the runs that don't work or the tight end delay that
doesn't work. Cause when it's just that pop up into the end zone, we all seem to hate it a lot
more. If you do it with Mike Evans, I'm never going to hate it. Cause he seems like he's,
I don't know who else is on the list with him. Receivers were like, hey, just go up and give him a chance. It
seems like he wins that more than anyone else in the NFL. It's his 11th season. He's going to go
over 800 receptions, maybe 1300 yards and certainly a hundred touchdowns for his career. And I'm not
going to give him the Jake Gyllenhaal award yet. try and show Yanke because I can't quit him,
but there's somebody else I can't quit.
So I'll save it for him a little bit later.
Bonix 26 of 42, 138, two picks, one rushing touchdown.
He had a hundred yards in his 34th pass attempt.
That is actually not great.
Um, when you look at the, the week one QBs again, since 2001, his advanced
numbers ranked 38th out of 39.
The second pick was terrible.
The first one was just a bad idea, but a great play by Julian Love and watching
some of the young QBs specifically these three in comparison with Gino Smith
on the other side of this game against Denver, it actually made me appreciate
Gino Smith a little bit more Seattle, turn it on and boy, a mafe by the way, unbelievable game.
The sack two tackles for loss, but just overall how dominant he is.
Speaking of pressure, a working theory.
If you were just to ask, okay, no one plays in the preseason anymore.
They don't hit as much.
So who would be more ready week one with a lack of reps and offensive line or a
pass rush, I think most of us would agree the lack of reps favors the pass rush.
Because if you think of it, okay, week one, snapping the football, go
get the quarterback, pretty simple.
On the other side of it, let's figure out our protections, our communication, all of this stuff.
I mean, I think we would all agree.
It just makes sense that the offensive line would be behind the pass rush to
start, especially with how few guys are actually playing together during the pre-season.
So I asked somebody who researches this stuff.
I'm not going to name them because it works somewhere, but if you look at week
one, I asked, is the pressure up in week one? And there's a bunch of numbers that can kind
of tie in and maybe tell you what you want to hear, but then also can contradict what
you want to hear. But I'm just going to share it a little bit. And that is that if you look
at pressure rate for week one this year, 30% up from 28.6% week one from 2018 to 23. So
okay, maybe a slight number. In that. That's, that is a jump.
But if you look at the pass block, win rate at the same timeline, historically,
it actually was better week one than it has been in previous years, but that's directly related like pressure is pressure.
The pass block, win rate stuff can have more factors and time to throw is
the thing you're really looking at here.
But something dawned on me as I was thinking about the time to throw numbers, because I was thinking factors and time to throw is the thing you're really looking at here.
But something dawned on me as I was thinking about the time to throw numbers,
because if that's longer, it means the pass block is holding up. But if time to throw also includes
all the young guys are just dancing around and bailing out on the pocket looking to throw,
then maybe time to throw could look good. But if you're actually watching some of these drop backs,
be like, this is not where this play has gone, despite him still having time to
throw this football, the foundation of a good
passing play is not there.
So, um, it also could be that it's week one.
It's the full or first full day of football that
I've watched since January with all the rule
changes, the emphasis on offensive coaches.
I wonder if what I'm expecting every drop back,
you know, is, is more success because
we've seen scoring obviously spike over the years.
And I was wondering kind of, as I was thinking this, I was like, what are you asking for?
What do you, what do you want it to be?
Do you want every drop back to be a success?
Cause that's not going to happen.
But I do think it gets back to so many young quarterbacks that have everything so dialed in on Saturday that they don't understand raising their risk.
And I don't expect all these guys to figure it out week one of their rookie year,
but these drop backs where the quarterback rolls out, he's running parallel with his
tight end, it's the only throw he has that's still available to him.
The tight end is covered by a safety or a linebacker, maybe a corner is stepped up.
The tight end is three yards shy of the first down marker and the pass
isn't going to do anything, but he throws it.
It's a completion.
The guy's tackled or he goes out of bounds.
And it's not really a play that gave you a chance for anything.
I feel like I see it all the time. It also makes
me appreciate somebody like CJ Stroud, who yesterday in their win as they hold off the Colts in that
bomb show from Anthony Richardson, he's a third and 11. They've got to get the first round, keep
running the clock. He hits Nico Collins, do his right on third and 11. And it's just a masterful throw.
And he knew what he needed.
He wasn't gonna like, he had one spot to throw this football
and it was such an important throw.
Colts are gonna get the ball back.
And he's like, no, I've got it.
It's also Matthew Stafford last night
because you could see with Stafford in game, once they lose a couple offensive linemen, the protection's not going to
be there for him and he's thinking, okay, I'm not going to have time back here to
like start going through progressions.
So once I see Cooper Cup free, like I have to find a way to get the ball out
quick enough to avoid this pressure.
And I'm going to have to make some throws that maybe I wouldn't
have made in the first quarter.
And he had a third and five.
And I know ultimately Detroit comes back in terrific fashion and just
runs over the Rams and overtime scores the game when he touched down.
So we'll do some Detroit stuff with McShea, but that third and five
throw that he had to DeMarcus Robinson late in regulation was just an,
he's getting hit.
It's just an absurd throw. And that to the Marcus Robinson late in regulation was just an, he's getting hit, it's just an absurd throw.
And that's the difference.
And again, I don't expect these, these rookies to be understanding
all this stuff immediately.
But that the fact that I'm mentioning CJ in his second year already with this
kind of stuff just speaks to how terrific he's been.
All right, let's do best win, worst loss.
It was looking like it'd be Arizona.
They're up 17-3 at Buffalo.
Kyler started 16 and 19, 130 yards, 61 rush yards.
He had only 32 passing yards from that point on.
Kyler is, for me, this is my problem,
he is the most talented quarterback that I still doubt.
There's guys I just don't like, like I have no hope for.
Kyler's done things in the past that give me hope.
And yet I'll work, I'll just, I'll watch certain parts of it where, you know, they
ended three second half possessions, sack, fumble, sack.
On the third possession I'm talking about here.
So the second sack, he was barely touched
and he just went down.
Josh Allen takes over, lands on his hand, that touchdown where he ran it in, great play
by him, but a nasty, he elbowed his own hand.
So you could see when he went into a celebration, he was still hurting and then he ends up getting
it taped up.
Then you wonder about under center and shotgun
and all that kind of stuff.
I was looking at the Sando Cook index,
first pick six on the athletic
because we all love Mike Sando here on the pod.
I thought this was really interesting.
Now he comes up with the Cook index,
which is basically how aggressive are you play calling
when score and game situation are still like in doubt.
And if you look at the cook index for Buffalo,
it's the least aggressive they have been in their last 82
games based on their play calling.
So I'm not gonna go with that with best win
because Buffalo held them off,
but Arizona was in the running there.
Is it Houston with Anthony Richardson, deep ball attack?
He threw for 212, three total touchdowns, ran one in late.
He had only nine completions yesterday.
So I don't know if that's awesome, but whatever.
I mean, he's basically a rookie out there too.
And I'm talking about these other dudes
not taking deep shots.
So I'm not gonna criticize that.
At least it's there.
That first one is just an absurd,
zero platform throw to get it out.
And just look, it's something to build on despite the loss.
I'm gonna say Dallas or Cleveland.
It was 27 to three, ends up being 33-17.
And it's total domination of what I thought,
and I still will believe that Cleveland
has a terrific defense.
Parsons, all the Dallas pieces felt like
they showed up yesterday.
Parsons get involved, they find creative ways
to get CD Lamb the football, Dak was terrific,
Zeke Elliott back in the mix.
And then you have the Deshaun Watson paying attention game
because we were all paying attention.
Dallas, Brady, a lot of people were watching this
and they were wondering post the injury,
could this look a little bit better?
I've held out a lot of hope for Houston Deshaun Watson,
but bro, Cleveland had 54
total yards when it was 23 or excuse me, 22, three Dallas.
They were all for six on third down.
Dallas had 12 first downs.
Cleveland had one Watson threw it, uh, for 3.8 yards per attempt, which is the
lowest in any of his career 68 starts where he's had over five pass attempts.
You think that number is bad?
CBS Sports did this number this morning that said of the 1,752 times a quarterback in a
game is thrown 10 or more passes, 15 or more yards downfield, Watson is the only quarterback
in this situation to complete zero of those passes.
And aside, I find the Cowboys annoying for announcing prior to week one
kickoff that Dak's contract was extended.
They do it on purpose.
They think it's some huge win that everybody's talking about the Cowboys
and getting all this attention.
These are such fake wins.
It's like a PR thing.
I can't stand it, but they get the win.
So I'm not going to get too carried away on it. Okay. So if I'm really trying to figure this out,
because we're going to do it every week, worst loss, best win. I had a few options here on the
worst loss. We gave you the best win to Dallas. Cincinnati at New England, they were favored by
seven and a half. It was the biggest spread on the board. They fumbled in the red zone.
They had four three-and-outs. They fumbled in the red zone. They had four three and outs.
They fumbled a punt.
They get gashed for 170 yards rushing by New England.
Maybe since that he's now six and six in September under Burrow, they
score less than 20 points per game.
The scoring dramatically improves as the months go by, but this is a
Superbowl contending team with a healthy Burrow.
Yes, I understand.
Higgins was out and the chase contract stuff and all that, but
it is going to take a few weeks for me to think New England's
actually like good.
They had to have been in everybody's bottom five and to
have Borough and everybody excited.
That was pretty disappointing, but I still don't think it was
the worst loss because I think that goes to Jacksonville.
Because I, at one point was like, Hey, Jacksonville is pretty good
last year. And then it took me week after week after one point, was like, Hey, Jacksonville is pretty good last year.
And then it took me week after week after week.
I was like, maybe they're not.
And then we started having Trevor, Trevor Lawrence conversations that I'm
still not ready to completely accept.
Cause I'm like, is he just not going to be good?
Um, think about this first and 10th of the Miami 13 with two, 27 to go in the
third quarter, Travis Etienne is about to go in for the touchdown
to go up 24-7.
He fumbles.
Miami scores on three of its next four possessions.
The only one they didn't was a missed field goal
after they stopped Jacksonville for going to court
on fourth and one in their own 32.
And you're just, if you're Jacksonville,
you're thinking, what just happened to us?
How did we lose that game?
And for a team that's clearly not in the elite tier of the AFC teams, but on paper you're thinking, do they have a chance?
Could this team actually win a playoff game?
And I think Miami's in the same group of as far as here are the three
special teams in the AFC, then it's everybody else.
But if something break rights or, you know, a lot of times you're talking about these teams
and we're wondering what happened, what went wrong week six.
It's like, well, five of their top 15 guys are hurt.
There you go, season over.
And two now, by the way, for the staff people out there,
leads the league in passing.
But 23, that had very,
that loss for Jacksonville had big 2023 feelings.
Final award.
I almost gave it to, like I said.
Joe from Tampa Bay.
But the Gyllenhaal award on players I cannot quit.
We're going to give it to my guy in Detroit.
Jameson Williams.
I am thrilled. He had a big night last night, five catches, one 21, one touchdown.
I know he was hurt Bama.
He barely played his rookie year.
He had 24 catches last year.
When I watched these guys on Saturday
and there's the list of well, there's no way he's not going to be good in the NFL.
Jamison is on that list for me.
Gets the game ball, gets the post game interview with Jared Goff.
That Detroit team is stacked on offense.
What a great NFL weekend to get us started.
That one o'clock window.
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Saturday. This will be a little quicker here. So the headline stuff from college football,
Notre Dame's loss to Northern Illinois, 28 point favorite.
If you didn't know,
I know this is kind of a stupid exercise,
but play along with me here.
Take out the rankings, take out the history,
take out the uniforms.
You'd be like, okay, we're gonna put these 11 guys
against these 11 guys.
You would never know watching that game
that one team is thought to be a potential
national title contender.
If you say that's overstating it, at least a playoff participant and the other team,
you know, nobody can name any of the players.
It was, I don't even know if it's an even game because Northern Illinois just had
answers, Riley Leonard, I don't have answers.
I don't know what's going on there. And then after Thomas Hammack, the head coach who played running back there, got really emotional about this win.
And I'm actually going to table my thought on that to the very end of this.
Texas, maybe the most impressive team now two weeks in, I guess you could say
the same for Georgia and Ohio States running over everybody.
We're going to do more on the top three teams and who the fourth might be,
but it doesn't really matter, but we'll do with McShea anyway.
Quinn, yours was just terrific.
I think it was a great win. I think it was a great win. I guess you could say the same for Georgia and Ohio State's running over everybody. We're going to do more on the top three teams and who the fourth might be, but it doesn't really matter, but we'll do with McShea anyway.
Quinn Uers was just terrific.
And it wasn't about the stats.
It was about some of the pocket stuff that I'm frustrated with the NFL
quarterbacks on Sunday.
The fact that in that pocket traffic that Uers is so mobile without having to run around.
Now Brady, I'm not comparing Uers to Tom Brady, but Brady was the most immobile, mobile quarterback I'll ever see.
He moved in the pocket to open up the throwing lane.
He moved in the pocket just slightly to figure out a way to avoid pressure or
give himself just a little bit more time or the receiver, the tight end to
find a way to get some separation.
Yours when faced with pressure, because I still think Michigan's defense is
terrific, just looks like a vet out there carving people up and trying to a way to get some separation. Yours went faced with pressure because I still think Michigan's defense is terrific.
Just looks like a vet out there carving people up.
Whether it's Isaiah Bond, the transfer from Bama.
I know the other kids got a couple of touchdowns. Gunner Helm, the big tight end.
Running backs for days. And then on the other side you have Michigan's offense
with Davis Warren at quarterback after we read about Alex Orji all season long.
A thought on Alex Orji. There's always a guy like on every big team that when you bring him in,
it doesn't matter what the read is. He's got to keep the football every time because he doesn't
get to touch the football. He can't believe he's on the bench. He can't believe he's watching three hours on Saturday and he's not playing.
So if I ever played against one of these guys, I would just, the defensive
corner, I'd say, Hey, just tell everybody he's going to keep it.
Like maybe we get burned, but it doesn't matter.
It's kind of like when you run the wide receiver pass option play.
And they can't help themselves.
They'll throw it into quadruple coverage in the end zone.
They can be second down and go, Hey, we just really't help themselves. They'll throw it into quadruple coverage in the end zone.
They can be second down and go, Hey, we just really need the field
goal, so throw it away.
He's not going to throw it away.
This is his time to shine a passing touchdown.
I might not ever get another chance at this in my entire career.
So it's not exactly the same, but I feel like there's so many players
that I'll watch like, Oh, here's the old four star that came in out of Florida.
He's a freshman.
Like, Oh, you're going to run zone read.
It's probably going to keep it. like no one went with the bats.
There's 12 guys in the box keeping it.
Let's talk a little Nebraska, Colorado, Nebraska's last six one season was
2016 when they went nine and four.
So with Rayola quarterback knowing where he started and where his journey
brought him to his dad, the way he looked, a defensive line from Nebraska,
black shirt alert, I don't know what it means for Nebraska.
I just know it feels a hell of a lot, a hell of a lot better than it's
felt the last few years.
I can, they really contended the big, I don't know about that.
I'm not going to go that far because Colorado sucks.
Deon's gone two and nine in his last 11 games.
Let's run through some stats.
In 2023, they allowed the second most sacks in college football.
People may have thought it was fixed after week one.
It's not.
They gave up six more against Nebraska yesterday.
In 2023, they were 133 out of 133 D1 football teams.
Yes.
S S FBS in rushing yards per game.
Yesterday, they ran it 22 times for 16 yards.
They didn't even crack 70 yards a game for the season last year.
Last year they had the third most penalties in college football.
Saturday, they had nine for 104 yards.
Nothing has really changed.
I don't know what Travis Hunter was frustrated about.
I don't know if it was a call thing or if he wasn't getting a chance.
I think he may have wanted on one of the plays just for
Shador to throw it up to him.
Clearly we all realize how talented Shador is, but the vibe of it is going to
take, it's going to be a much bigger tax on Colorado because of all the attention.
When you get this amount of attention last year after what was really a fraudulent start, alright, and people are talking about Deon being in the NFL and
Shador being the number one pick and Travis Hunter winning a Heisman and
look those two guys still may have, like certainly Hunter has years and years of football ahead of him.
But when it starts getting nasty, is it because I would ask it this way.
Did people go into it wanting to be nasty? Sure.
Some, the majority no.
But I think with the way the storyline played out, I think it's just really simple.
When you get that much attention and then you don't do anything to back it up, the
tax is a lot worse, the same thing for Jim Harbaugh at Michigan. And he didn't have seasons like
this other than the COVID disaster. I mean, I stuck up
for Harbaugh all the time. As long as Michigan's cool with it,
it's fine. Because yeah, who's got it better than us and all
the videos, he stopped doing some of that stuff. Deon's never
going to stop doing any of that stuff. Let's talk about the
rankings a little bit. Oregon drops two spots to number nine
after their late win against Boise State. The Idaho game's probably still more frustrating.
Some alarming trends here from Oregon.
They were number one in sacks allowed
in college football the last two years.
They allowed five total sacks in 22 and 23.
This year they've allowed seven total and you can see it.
I mean, you saw it against Idaho.
They are not, they're not running the football well.
Last year average six yards per carry, this year three yards per carry.
And Boise State gave up 45 to Georgia Southern in week one.
So they dropped two spots to nine.
If I had a week two reassessment of my summer predictions when I
want to pick one of the chalk teams, I don't feel great about my Oregon national championship pick.
Bama stays at number four unchanged. Voters must've just looked at the score, which I don't know,
maybe because you weren't that into South Florida, but this was a battle until the score
looked like it was one side at the end. Milrow is not a dual threat QB.
He is a single threat QB.
They're fine at running back, they're fine at receiver.
They maybe have the best linebacker unit in college football, but the O-line sack numbers
that we could get into and say that's part of the issue and their right tackle, I think
it was their right tackle on Saturday, just disastrous night.
But Milrow also drops in due pressure. So it's, it's a bit like the Justin Fields thing that we saw
early with him and the Bears.
Tennessee, we had talked about this being the coming out party for Ima
Iliyava and they didn't really need him.
He was fine.
He had his moments, but this is about that Tennessee defensive front.
We all know James Pierce because he's going to be a top 10 pick.
The stats weren't overwhelming.
He had a spin move where he set the guy up outside and spun back inside.
That was ridiculous.
Mari Thomas, the defensive tackle, the Tennessee defense looks just, they destroyed NC State
in this game.
Also the Iamaleava volleyball highlights look illegal.
Penn State battle with Bowling Green,
down 17-7 in this one.
Good to see them be able to put up enough offense there.
This was actually like a real battle.
And a quick shout out to Harold Fanon Jr.,
number zero tight end for Bowling Green,
64230 Jr.
I wonder which SEC school he'll be on next year.
Remember, as we were watching Will Howard,
maybe get off to a slow
start at Ohio State and I mean slow, like the first quarter, things look fine.
Not great competition, but I was joking that Will Howard is going to be good
enough that they'll soon get over Kyle McCord because if you look at McCord
stat line at 23, we're like, Oh, it wasn't really that bad.
I think Ohio State fans you locked into it every single week.
You're like, eh, there's't really that bad. I think Ohio state fans, you locked into it every single week.
And like, eh, there's some limitations there.
He is he awesome.
He was so good for QC against Georgia tech.
I think his halftime numbers are 23 of 30.
He was just under 300 yards, had three TDs in the half ended up at like 380 with four.
I'm telling you, it wasn't just like, Hey, let's light it up.
But Georgia tech is a good enough team, right?
We saw what they did to start the season
against Florida State.
But I'm like, I don't think, it's just because
if you've watched Will Howard enough, you know who he is,
you know what he's not.
And it's probably fine for Ohio State.
They can still win a national championship with him.
But my God, watching McCord, I'm thinking,
should he still be in Columbus?
Uh, Oklahoma state wins against Arkansas.
The ugliest stretch of things, decisions, calls, clock that you'll see on a Saturday.
Who's got a screen that you might be surprised about.
South Carolina, South Carolina, Kentucky got a screen only because I want to watch the five-star kid on the edge for South Carolina, Dylan Stewart.
When I saw his week one highlights on Twitter, I thought it was actually somebody uploading
college football video game stuff.
I'm serious.
I'm not even trying to be funny about it because I was like, that's a, wait, that's a real
person.
He is a real person.
He beat a triple team against Kentucky.
That was absurd.
This was such an ass kicking from a pass rush versus protection.
It was so bad Greg McElroy was just like beside himself.
Vandergrift, the transfer into Kentucky, he had one pass attempt in the second quarter.
And then I don't think he completed another pass for like 30 minutes of game time.
At one point he was 3-10 for 30 yards.
Another time, Kentucky kept seven in to protect against the three three man rush and South Carolina still got there.
It was, it will be one of the most dominant performances you see from a D line against an old line in college football.
Okay.
I want to finish on just this and I'm going to bring it back to Northern
Illinois win and hammock their head coach.
So he's crying at the end.
And I don't care who you are, you should feel good for him.
Like a moment you're sharing with a stranger
that you're watching on television.
And it got me to thinking about something,
and I may bring this back, a segment called Tweet I Didn't Like.
When Travis Kelce and Jason Kelce signed a hundred million dollar deal with Wondery,
by the way, congrats to everybody. You know, people were going, whoa.
And there was this one guy and I don't want to beat up on him anymore than he already got beat up.
And I don't really remember it.
I don't have the tweet in front of me, so I'm not going to quote it word for word.
But he basically was like, why would Travis Kelsey keep playing football?
And he got roasted, which he should.
And I could relate this to something like the people in the world that work out and the people roasted, which he should.
And I could relate this to something like the people in the world that work out and the people that don't work out.
And it's as big of a disconnect as I can think of because the people that work
out are like, how would you not want to actually like put yourself through
something and then the reward of actually doing something physically?
Where the people that don't are like, well, why would you want to do something
physically like it kind of sucks sometimes.
And yes, some days it absolutely sucks.
I'd ask this, why is journaling considered cool for your mental health, but
not keeping track of your lap pulldowns.
So Travis Kelsey signs this huge deal.
Somebody who's probably never, you know, I want to turn into a Neanderthal here,
but like after soccer and being on the yellow team, he probably wasn't super locked into sports
and he's just thinking, well, look at all this money in the, it's safer to podcast than it is
to play football. But maybe Travis Kelsey likes playing football. Maybe there's something awesome
about being around a bunch of other guys trying to compete for something at the highest level.
Maybe he likes the physicality. Maybe he likes to smash into other people. Maybe he likes the idea of being a hall of fame or maybe the best tight end that's ever played.
Maybe he likes to win Super Bowls.
It seems like all of this stuff is really working out for Travis Kelsey and knowing how quickly
an athlete's career ends, maybe he would like to keep playing at a high level for a little bit
longer even though he has all this money from a new media deal.
And yet the person that can't understand the reward of sports still thinks
Travis Kelce is like making a mistake. And I thought about Northern Illinois while their head
coach was crying because other than your children graduating or doing something that makes you so
proud, maybe you make president's club and medical sales for your company, but like how often will
you be so motivated by joy in your life to cry.
And that's something that people that don't compete, that don't test themselves physically,
will never understand.
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Now that I've run through everything from the weekend, let's bring in somebody that
does it as well as anybody.
Fired up for another season.
Todd McShay, Mondays.
What's up, man?
Good to see you.
Bracillo, how you been, buddy?
I'm good.
I'm good.
We have a little prep call this morning.
A lot of stuff that we want to run through.
I don't know how the people with families do it, how they watch all the football.
So credit to you because it's easier for me.
Let's start on Saturday because Saturday, Texas going into Michigan,
I think doubts about Michigan's offense.
Maybe they were one of the biggest like summer assumption teams.
When you started talking about teams that could make the playoff, but you know,
look, we love the defensive talent.
You thought maybe they'd have enough, but that was just an ass kicking by Texas every which way.
And when you think about the weapons,
there's that part of it, the offensive line,
Gunnar Helm, that tight end,
who just looked like he was out there
getting after it with everybody.
This really feels like the storyline,
at least for Texas going into another season
with Quinn Uers is Uers developing
and understanding who he is as
a quarterback, understanding the stuff around him with all the reps that he's
had the last couple of years.
I was blown away, man.
And I didn't have the expectations with Michigan that I think a lot of people
did just kind of watching shows and reading on social media.
I definitely believe Michigan was going to take a step back, but it's still
Michigan, I mean, it's still that group is loaded on defense and loaded on the defensive line, loaded at cornerback and in the secondary.
So to see Texas line up, right. And you got to remember everyone's talking about Quinn yours and
we showed him, we'll get to it in a minute. Their two offensive tackles are stars. They were starting
as true freshmen and you've got two NFL guys
who were playing on the, on the outside. You've got four guys that have great experience on
the offensive line. And so they come into this game kind of with a chip like, yeah,
we know about Mason Graham. We know all these guys in the defensive front. We know what
Michigan's producing year in and year out, But to dominate Michigan in the trenches the way they did,
I watched that game and I was like, you know what?
Texas had a damn good football team last year.
This team has a chance to be great.
And I know we said it like last year after Alabama,
they had that dominant performance
and they went on to have a great season.
So, but there's something about this team,
just the physicality,
the experience now in the offensive line and, and Quinn Ewers, the way he's
playing, I tweeted it the other day, sent it out on X, whatever you're supposed to
say these days. He's like the shining example of, of what, what game
experiences for the quarterback position. He's always had talent, you know, he put
on weight, he put on weight,
he took off weight, he was more mobile last year,
all these different things.
But the one thing that he has gained is game experience.
And when you're playing at Texas
and you have the pressure on you every single week,
and you've had peaks and valleys
and played great in some big games
and played poorly in some big games,
you'll learn from it.
And you have a really good coach and coach Sark,
who's developed a lot of great quarterbacks
who have gone on to have NFL success.
He's coached in the NFL and had success.
So you couple the experience that Sark has
and the coaching that he does with just game experience
and now coming back third year as a starter.
It was like watching a quarterback,
the light finally came on completely. And the
progress and the development, I just love studying. I'm a junkie and a weirdo about, you know,
watching the progressions of quarterbacks. And you were like, the subtle movements in the pockets,
feeling where pressure was coming from. And you don't do that just because you like God given
ability all the time.
Some guys are more instinctive than others, yes.
But when people talk about like,
God, he sensed pressure coming from the blind side
and he was able to move the pocket three steps to the right.
Like all the Brady shit that we've talked about,
you know, we've spent 15, 20 years talking about,
Dan Marino stuff, you know,
guys who are great inside the pocket
but aren't necessarily very mobile.
Quinn is pretty mobile, but aren't necessarily very mobile.
Quinn is pretty mobile, but it's the pocket mobility.
And how do you sense that stuff?
Well, it starts with setting protections and knowing what you're looking at and knowing
where the pitfalls are.
Like, all right, I've got six eligible guys or seven guys that could be coming.
We've got two guys on the left that they both both come, I'm gonna have to move this pocket.
So at the snap, everyone talks about,
you're reading the safeties first,
or you're looking at your corner read.
At the snap, now you know immediately which guys,
if you thought there were seven hot guys,
seven potential guys, you see six coming,
and you know where they're coming from,
that like split second can either ignore it as a quarterback
or you just don't know how to process it.
But guys like yours, when you take that next step,
that's when you start to see them slide
to the right a little bit,
or climb up in the pocket a little bit
because it's coming from the outside.
So the first thing you process is where
and how much is the pressure coming?
And Quinn did it over and over again.
And as it started to come, and I hate to hear, like, his eyes stay up and he kept his eyes
up.
Yeah, they did.
But he did because he knew where the pressure was coming from.
He was comfortable with it.
And he knew where, if you know where I've got to, if I'm climbing up or sliding right,
sliding left, if you know where it's coming from without having to look at it, that opens
up the whole field and Quinn in that game against Michigan, he was brilliant,
man. He was like, yeah, there were a couple of missed throws and this and that,
but like managing the pocket and having that confidence and the feel that was a
different level. And you always want to see quarterbacks.
Are they going to progress from year one to two and two to three?
He showed a big jump in my opinion.
And I'm excited about it now.
Like, yeah, he's not the biggest guy and all that stuff.
But when you look at the quarterback position and what you need to do, he showed a lot of
those things that you look for, obviously, to have a great season for Texas.
But in what I do, like progressing and now challenging to be maybe the first
quarterback off the board competing with Carson Beck from Georgia, I've got a higher grade
on viewers coming into the season and it's extending now over Sridhar Sanders.
So those are the three guys that we're all talking about in the first round coming up
for the 2025 NFL draft.
It's hard to have a better start to the season than what Quinn has done in terms of showing NFL scouts, what he can be and showing Sark and his teammates,
the kind of elite quarterback play that they're going to get this kind of this
type, this entire season.
I, I was blown away with what I saw and it's exciting, man.
If we look at the top three teams, because I feel like two weeks in and,
you know, who knows, um, it feels, especially with the, the start for Georgia against Clemson in Ohio
State smashed Akron in Western Michigan, but it's not like we don't realize
coming in in the summer that it's one of the more talented rosters in college
football, so benefit of the doubt for Ohio State in this sense makes sense.
If there's a fourth team right now, Bama is ranked fourth in both polls.
I said in the open, I think
people looked at the score. Ole Miss is putting up absurd numbers. They played Furman in middle
Tennessee. So usually if I'm going to say, okay, I think there's a fourth team, if we were looking
at the old system of like the fourth team, let's run through a few teams right now.
Because I think I put Tennessee in there. Iamaleava didn't have to go off
or do anything against NC State.
Tennessee is definitely a uniform team for me.
When their defensive front is getting after it
and destroying everyone,
I just assume all the guys are great.
I know Pierce is a top 10 pick likely,
but they're loaded up front.
They brought in, I think, a couple
transfers in secondary as well. They only needed two 11 from me and Maliava considering McCall,
who normally always pits up numbers. He threw for 104 yards. I mean, this was an absolute
domination by Tennessee against another ranked team.
There are two teams that I would say, neither of which is Alabama.
Two teams that jumped out.
Miami, I'm gonna put like, keep an eye on Miami.
Not the fourth best team in the country,
but my goodness, I was impressed with Miami
and Cam Ward, what he's done.
We'll table that for now.
Tennessee and Ole Miss are the two teams
that are most intriguing to me.
That I think have the talent to legitimately make a run
and be up there in the top four top five when we get into
College football playoff time it is hard though because like to your point. I like this exercise
Georgia won based off of what we know their talent level and that dominant performance against Clemson
Texas to in my opinion just because they've earned it to this point
But in Ohio State like they're the clear cut to. And you can draw a line right after those first three.
I'll start with Tennessee, Tennessee, you know,
Mia Maliava, Nico, sorry, E.
Amalia, but Nico, E.
Amalia, but, um, took me a while.
Yeah.
I nailed the hardest part.
The, the, I don't know where the hell I threw me in for E. Amalia.
Um, he's a freak. I mean, he's, there were some, you know,
I thought he missed a few,
he was off on a few throws and like there's going to be inconsistency there for
a little bit, but my goodness, he can do things that most other guys can't.
And so I'm excited to see what he does, but I was impressed.
Like the tight ends are more involved
with Tennessee and they've got depth there.
That was never really their thing, but they've got like,
you know, there were a few guys, like I think 87 and zero.
And then it was another guy like 19 or somewhere.
Like they've got guys that are,
it's adding another element to that, to that hypo offense.
And so that
87 is the Bama guy. Yeah. Kitzelman.
Yeah. Yeah. So I think it's 87 87 zero. And I want to say maybe 19.
So they've got weapons on the edge. They just got a bunch of weapons.
And so I think it's kind of the next level and development of that offensive
system more, more from the tight end position. So, um,
the offensive line is physical too.
You think about these fast paced offenses and all that, like they're physical.
And then the defense was the problem.
You know, we knew that Nego was talented.
Don't, I don't know.
Not sure we all expected to see this, this level of play early on, but we'll see as the season goes on.
But the defense was really the big question mark coming into the year.
And to see that defensive line depth and some of the dudes, dudes they have up front, 55 just
was just tearing things up and see them rotating like seven, eight guys in.
I think Tennessee is going to be really intriguing to watch.
And then Ole Miss kind of, you know, just handled business like who've
they played all that stuff.
But Henry Parrish Jr.
is showing what he can do with a running back position that's promising.
They love running the football.
Everyone mistakes it because, because of Kiffin and, and you know, the big numbers they put
up, but they've got to be able to run the football to be successful.
And Henry Parrish Jr. off to a good start.
Trey Harris is ridiculous, man.
He, I mean, that system helps him get some, some open, open catches, but 17 catches, 309 yards, two touchdowns
through two games. They've really only played a couple halves. And then, and then Jackson dart,
we'll see like when the lights come on, can he be more consistent as a passer?
But he, I mean, completing 30 straight passes is tough to do in seven on seven. I mean, shit,
it's tough to do sometimes just like, you know,
throwing routes one on one, not even one of like, just you and your receiver.
So it's, you gotta be really encouraged by what you've seen so far from Ole Miss.
So those to me are the two teams that are the most intriguing.
You know, I see in the rankings like Alabama and Missouri, Oregon has been like,
you're my, you're my ducks correspondent, man.
I'm intrigued to see what you think about
Oregon, but Utah, can they stay healthy? Cam Rising at quarterback, Oklahoma, what was that
performance? LSU had a good loss, but what are they going to be this year? There's a lot of teams
hanging around, but to me, it's those top three, Georgia, Texas, Ohio State. And then it's a couple
SEC teams in Tennessee,
Ole Miss that I think are vying to be that fourth team
in the country.
Oregon offensive line play I covered in the open.
It's a problem two weeks in.
I like that.
I think Miami deserves to be mentioned in this
because I looked at the off season of Miami
and then adding in Ken Ward, you go, okay,
how many years have they thought they had the guy
quarterback, they didn't have the guy quarterback.
I mean, it's been going on decades down there and think, okay, but if we all
do like the rest of the talent that much, and I love their weapons in the passing
game, I just, I was strepo is like one of my favorite players in college football.
I don't, you know, it's so early and how wrong we're going to be about some of
this stuff, it'd be super dismissive to not even mention them.
I think it's dismissive to not mention USC.
I was so impressed with them in person against LSU, you know, LSU and
SC going to that game going, okay, whose defense is actually going to just be maybe average.
And I think you could argue, you know, even though USC wins the game, it didn't
feel like one team was dramatic, but it just wasn't a disaster like it was for both of those teams.
Um, the way it was all last season.
I mean, on top of everything else too, like USC's old line was an issue.
I mean, it turned into the Caleb Williams show every single Saturday night.
She's like, is there any way this guy can put the cape on and save them?
But when you look at Miller Moss's toughness and his story, being there a bunch of years,
and I always think it's kind of cool when you can grow up playing for the team that you're rooting
for your whole life and the way they're getting it. And all they have to do, like they,
they put it on Utah state. So you can laugh about that. You can say, LSU is overrated.
LSU is good enough offensively where you would think they're probably gonna get 28, 30 points
against anybody at least.
They had their own issues getting off to an awful start
in their game on Saturday.
But USC being average on defense,
if Moss really is this guy with all the receivers,
is at least worthy of consideration
and also boosting up the Big 10 resumes on whether SC can get
through or the teams that are going to play them.
Because before the year, the preseason 23, you're not really
sure, like, is that even going to be a good win?
And now if you were to knock off USC, I'd be impressed because I just think that
the improvement defensively from disaster to, okay, these guys are not pushovers,
at least the way it's looked through two weeks,
and Moss deserves at least to be a part
of whatever this conversation is that we're having.
Well, if you're a college football fan too,
like first of all, you want USC to be in the mix,
but then you also respect Lincoln Riley,
and I know there's a lot of hate for Lincoln Riley
and all, like whatever, but anyone who respects the game and loves the game, appreciates what he's done. And I know you do, but, but appreciate what he's done in terms of like modern college football. And even in the NFL, some of the concepts, like, you know, the counters, the guard, the guard tackle counters and the way they are in the run game and taking that, that air raid offense and making it into a physical balanced version of that.
You know, he's to me, he's someone I just respect greatly in terms of offense.
And so now all of a sudden you've got an offensive line that is capable.
And it looks like a Lincoln Riley, Oklahoma team or, you know, what you saw bits and pieces of early on at USC.
But like this looks like a Lincoln Riley team.
They're pulling the guards and tackles backside.
They're doing guard H counters.
They're physical, you know, and that sets up the run game in the play action.
And that's what makes makes his system so effective.
And that's what has allowed him and helped him to produce a lot of these
quarterbacks that have, you know, that have played great in his system and gone on to be high draft
picks. So I'm excited to see how it progresses, but knowing that you have a defense that at least is
functional and it provides a little bit of balance and a run game where you don't have a one player
and Caleb Williams is running around. It was fun to watch.
You know, it was the most exciting show in football to watch the last couple of years.
Like what's what you know, what's going to happen with Caleb
and how is he going to keep them in the game?
But it's not sustainable success.
It's not a blueprint for having success.
And we saw that it just it caught up to him, you know, the last couple of years.
So to me, I don't know.
I just I love seeing that I just, I love seeing
that in USC. I love seeing quarter, like that LSU game and LSU USC game to see two quarterbacks
were 22 years old. So who are just getting their start, who truly like stayed there,
forget the NIL, forget the transfer portal. I'm going to, I'm going to learn behind guys
and I'm going to do it the right way, like the old portal. I'm gonna learn behind guys and I'm gonna do it the right way,
like the old school way.
And to see them have the success that they had
in their first game and how comfortable
they were in the system.
It goes to show like, it doesn't all have to be NIL
and transfer portal and like bouncing around.
There is a way to just stay at your place,
learn, pay your dues and go move forward.
And I know every 18 year old out there saying, no, you're an idiot.
Like that's not how it is now.
I get it.
But maybe it's, you know, everything's cyclical in college football.
And I think quarterbacks are going to look at this and say, you know, there,
there is a path to success.
If I stick around, learn some of the best learning I ever did in football was when
I had to sit and watch and watch somebody else and how they did it better than me. Watch someone else to see how they
screwed up and maybe things I shouldn't do. And I saw that with both of those quarterbacks in LSU
and USC in that opening night. That was an absolute quarterback display in that first night.
It was special to watch. Yeah, it was a fun game to be at. Okay, a couple of things quick here on college football because I want to get to some NFL
stuff here as well.
Riley Leonard, he was better than this at Duke, wasn't he?
What happened?
It's a great question.
He has not progressed at all as a passer.
And in fact, he's regressed.
I remember like talking to Kuiper about it.
It was like two years ago.
This guy, if you know, if he more consistency, if he develops as a passer,
he's got a chance to be like second round or second, third round in that range.
And is it going to be like a second round who sneaks into the first or is it
second, third round or the way if he's a day two guy, let's just take him in round
four. Those are the questions about Riley Leonard.
And now you watch him and it's like, Oh man, like, I, I don't know.
Now there's no, there's no weaponry.
There's no like big play vertical presence that I'm seeing on Notre Dame, but I'm not seeing a quarterback who could take advantage of that with any consistency either.
After the first game, I was like cautiously optimistic because I saw the, the lack of weapons and a lack of explosiveness on offense,
but I thought maybe it's, it's week one.
I'm with you. I like,
I thought that was just one of those grueling mentally tough,
physically tough game time time and Amazon fire.
I thought they were going to lose the game after they gave up the score.
They had the holding penny. Like I went through the whole thing.
Like I looked at that win going,
whoever won that game should feel great about themselves this week because
that was a draining, draining exercise of football. So I
didn't care about the stats as much. And then you're a 28 point
favorite against Illinois, Northern Illinois and it's
worse. You could talk about them losing just coming off of you
know, we whenever you're looking at numbers going okay, well,
who's actually ready for like an emotional letdown? Okay, fine
emotional letdown. They lose the game the problem is is riley leonard looked worse
against them than they did a and now you're like all right we're two weeks into this guy doesn't
have a touchdown yeah and what do you do you're marcus freeman you got a good football team like
that's a good football team they're good defensively they're great in the secondary
their offensive line is it the best secondary in college football?
Oh, I hate to.
I'm putting you on the spot there.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's call it top three right now in the nation.
You know, and it may very well be.
Michigan's gotta be up there too.
But yeah.
Okay.
Last thing here, we're gonna do this every week.
I have a new thing I want to do.
Looking ahead, it's who gets a screen.
Okay.
Okay.
So the concept is you and I would get our setups at home, all the different screens. You're kind of thinking, okay, who do I need to get eyes on today?
What's really interesting?
Mike, what might be off the radar?
So this past weekend, all I wanted to do was watch South Carolina's defensive line.
Well, not the only thing I want to do.
There's some other stuff, but once Kentucky, South Carolina came on, I go,
they're getting a screen.
They're getting a screen.
Cause I want to see Dylan Stewart.
I want to see this pass rush.
And it's not just him, by the way, Carolina feels like they have also, they
just absolutely wrecked Kentucky's entire like, Hey, you're not going to be able
to play football normally today.
That's what we're going to do to you.
So South
Carolina gets one in week two. Is there something week three that's off the radar that you're thinking
of? Um, how about Missouri Boston college? Oh, spicy back, back, uh, back at old chestnut. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, I, I like having Billy OB here in town. You know, I, I like,
I like what I saw against Florida state. No, obviously what is Florida state?
We'll find out, but like I'm intrigued in Missouri. All of a sudden,
I think the AP just came out with Missouri's ranked six.
And I realized a bunch of teams like dropped off cause of poor performances and
stuff like that. But Missouri's got a team, they've got weapons.
Can Boston college, but stack a couple huge wins?
I will see. And the games in Columbia, too.
I screwed. Yeah. Yeah.
But there'll be there'll be a watch party, I'm sure.
And chestnut Hill.
I mean, they could have the best.
I mean, the Patriots won week one, but they could be the most intriguing
football entity in New England.
I don't know, man.
That's a roll in yesterday.
I'm gonna do this for you.
They have the week off.
They have the week off, Penn State.
But Tyler Warren, number 44, senior tight end,
6'6", 257.
Frank Leonard was my tight ends coach at Richmond.
He's the tight ends coach at Penn State now.
He's one of the offensive coaches at Penn State.
The amount of texts, he keeps sending me texts
about these tight ends that are really good
and they turn out to be really good
and they get drafted in the NFL,
but he sends me him in August and he's like yelling at me.
I mean, he's been yelling at me since I was 18 years old.
But he, but yeah, he, but he loves him.
He loves him.
And he's, I saw him.
I thought he was going to come out last year.
I thought he was going to be like a second, third round pick last year, but
he's a, but yeah, they've, they've got a tight end and Warren, I, I like him.
I'm drew Aller is intriguing.
Oh, we're back on the true hour train.
I like it.
Oh, we're not, but, but, but I'm at least going to the station and like-
You're just checking the schedule?
Yeah, I'm checking the schedule.
Like that might be an option
because right now I've got Carson Beck, Quinn Uers,
Shador Sanders is gonna be a roller coaster ride
on and off the field.
What about Connor Wigman?
Cam Ward is now like, huh, okay, huh.
And Drew Aller gave me a little, oh, all right.
He's always had talent.
He's a tough kid, he's mobile, he's got a big arm,
but the inconsistency was driving you crazy.
I thought his confidence was shot.
That was my favorite thing from week one,
is just seeing him against West Virginia
look like whatever they've done.
Yeah.
With the new OC.
Like believing in what he's doing.
He was, I thought he, that kid was shot to the point where I actually had sympathy
for him last year and I'm going, all right, well, what's it going to look like?
And look, they had to come back against Bowling Green.
I know you can make fun of them for the letdown against Bowling Green, but they
win the game, but they had to get out there and make some plays at Singleton's.
This dynamic guy, they're just doing a much better job of the new OC.
And I think that's probably one of my favorite developments because I actually felt for that guy.
Yeah.
At the end of last year.
Oh, I did too. Just overwhelmed games too fast, not in a position to succeed. So
Aller's a, all right, we got a bye week. We'll think about it. So week, what? Week three after
week zero. So it would be the fourth week of college football. Aller's a guy to keep an eye on too.
Okay, but Tyler Warren, I know we're very visual people.
44, lining up in the slot,
ball in his hands, a little Dallas Clarkish,
but he's huge.
I mean, he's 6'6", 260.
You look him up, Mechanicsville VA.
I don't know how many times I think I've looked up tight ends origin stories
I'm wrong about this, but I feel like there's seven guys that I've been like, oh another one for mechanics
I don't know what they do down there. I could be totally wrong about it. I'll get research on it
But that's the that's the screen. I'm gonna they're off this week, but I'm just gonna be on him
I'm gonna keep you honest with him because Friar Muth. I think you screwed up. Yeah, I
Didn't screw up on Friar Muth, I think you screwed up. So he was. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't screw up on Friar Muth.
I just what are you talking about? I'm just scrolling.
So January 24th, I get a text from Frank Leonard yelling at me.
Theo Johnson, ba ba ba ba.
I said, yeah, yeah, I like both.
I like both your tight ends.
What are you what's going on with Warren?
He's staying. But he will but he will play in the NFL
with healthy for 10 years.
He's another guy who will measure at six, six,
actually played in the Peach Bowl at 267, laugh out loud.
Smart as hell, high school quarterback,
makes plays, can block, I imagine with training
will break four, seven, love him.
Dad played safety at Richmond as I'm sure you know.
Well now the world knows. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Let's talk NFL. So I was really locked in on the young
guys. I ran through it for the audience earlier so I don't need to repeat myself on everything.
Overall, it wasn't good. It may like nothing. It's hard, right? It's really hard. You're right.
I hope the message is very clear. I'm gonna share it again with you that,
yeah, okay, that was my focus.
None of it was good.
Who knows?
Like, whatever.
I mean, it was just bad.
But you're right.
Let's stay on that point on how hard it is
because that, I think, is probably the best way
to talk about it.
You're like, yep, this is a little different, man.
This is a little different for you.
Although Caleb should have been used to things
being hard on him after last year with USC.
But yeah, the three guys, the first rounders that started,
wasn't good.
Yeah, I think we saw,
I saw a good clip of the Belichick talking about
Caleb Williams.
Like, yeah, he had a couple of nice plays,
but he's not, it wasn't accurate.
The rollout to his right was the best play he had all day.
But no, he was talking about like from the one of the preseason
games when he was awesome.
Maybe on like that NFL films or whatever the message whenever
long and running.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He had a good clip on there and everyone's like kind of hyping
him up.
But you see those plays.
He's like, yeah, he had a couple good plays, but he wasn't
accurate and it's like, yeah, yeah, because you get caught
up in it.
And so when watching him yesterday, he's got developing to do.
He's got to learn to play the position and trust the system and
become more consistent with his feet.
He's never been able to, so he's never had to and never really
developed the consistency with his footwork, like repping
it out, three, five, seven step drops, top of the drop, you know, foot and feet imbalance.
The beauty is he can do all those other things at an elite level, but in order to succeed
at an elite level in the NFL, he's going to have to be more robotic.
He's going to have to be more precise with his, and I'm not talking about the accuracy. I'm talking about the things that allow you to be accurate
and it's going to be interesting to see it.
That development happened now.
Chicago played great on special teams play had some great
moments on defense hung in there.
They found a way to win first guy since what was the stat
David Carr David Carr that that career went well.
20 some of these first rounders would hope they could be David Carr. No Carr, that career went well. Dude, some of these first rounders
would hope they could be David Carr.
No, I'm not talking about the 24 class.
I'm just talking about some of the other guys
that didn't work out.
So my point is it was frustrating to watch at times,
but it's gonna be a process.
It's gonna be a process.
Jaden Daniels, like we talked about,
I remember getting Saruti to try to look up
the Looney Tunes last year.
The clips of him running out of control.
And I got to find this thing on X again.
It's one of the funniest clips I've seen in a long time.
Just like 15, 20 different highlights of him running out of control and then just getting
whacked like a Looney Tune, like body parts falling, flailing everywhere.
He's gotta learn how to slide, bro.
He's gotta learn how to slide.
I can't believe, like, look, I don't have as high hopes
for Bo Nix as I do the other quarterbacks, okay?
And as I've discussed, I'm willing and ready to be wrong
on literally everybody.
Yeah, I'll get to Bo in a minute, but go ahead.
But Jay knew I have higher hopes for than bow.
I would say if actually the three quarterbacks, even though Jayden had the best
stats, I found his game the most frustrating out of the three guys, because
as soon as it was on for him to run, he's like, I'm just going to run.
And I don't think you can run an offense that way.
I think it looks cool at times and he got his two touchdowns, but if that's
how quickly you're bailing back here, it's, it's one thing to get sacked.
It's one thing to make the wrong read.
It's one thing to even throw a pick because you don't understand the
coverage and all that kind of stuff that goes along with it or realizing like
there's throws from the end zone cam that I'll look at where I'll go.
That's crazy.
Like in the NFL, you can't make that throw into the end zone, even though
the guy looks on the screen grab, like he's open by seven yards because the safety is going to jump in front of that pass and he's going to pick you in the end zone.
Like you think these things look open in this screen grab world or some of the end zone stuff and the NFL quarterback that becomes terrific knows like none of those passes are actually ones that will work. I can't make any of those throws.
actually ones that will work. I can't make any of those throws.
I would rather see those mistakes sometimes from some of the younger guys
than being scared to death of ever throwing it. So what I'm asking for sounds ridiculous as if I'm asking for interceptions.
I thought the game that Jayden played gave his offense the least amount of
chance to actually get into the fucking play that they called because he was
often running immediately.
And that's not even getting into the part where he can't slide.
Remember the story I told you about Brian Kelly
before the Tennessee game, was it two years ago now?
Yeah, right, because two years ago,
he wouldn't make any throws that he thought he couldn't.
He's gotta let it rip, he's gotta let it rip.
And then it clicked, it clicked for him.
I cannot believe.
It pissed off how every reporter in Baton Rouge
was patting him on the back, no interceptions
through like five games or whatever it was.
He's like, I want him to throw a pick. I want him to like,
to show me that he like is going to trust to read and actually throw the ball,
get it out on time. And then like the Tennessee game
didn't go well. That was, that was when a Hendon Hooker and they were,
Tennessee was rolling. They lost that game. But I told you on the very first play,
like it was so clear.
And Brian was telling me on the sideline, like five minutes before they went back in
before kickoff, he's like, he's got it.
He's got to get it out.
He's got to let it rip.
He's got to trust his reads.
He can throw with anticipation.
He is accurate, but he's not trusting it.
And then the first throw of that game was a comeback route.
I was standing in the end zone behind him and like the 25 yard line, he's throwing a
deep comeback, comeback route. And the standing in the end zone behind him and like the 25 yard line. He's throwing a deep comeback, comeback route.
And the ball was out before the receiver broke. And it was,
I promise you Brian all week was like, listen, first play,
we're on the deep out or deep comeback to the left sideline.
If you don't get this fucking ball out on time, like we were going to have a
problem. I don't care what happens. Throw a pick six, like get it out on time,
show me you can do this and let's start rolling from there. And he did.
And it was a completion. It was a beautiful ball. And so like that game didn't go well, but you saw from that
point on him start to trust it. It's easy though to revert back as a quarterback to when you were in
that protective mode. Think about it. Like when you go to do something for the first time, you're
kind of protecting and you're nervous and you're not sure of your environment,
you don't trust it.
So his natural instinct has always been,
see it open, if it ain't open to see it, I'm gonna run.
He's been doing, he did that in high school,
did that at Arizona State, did it early on at LSU.
Now he's back, he got coached out of it.
And so now he's in the NFL and it feels fast again.
It feels like when he went from college, from high school to college, it feels like when he went from Arizona state to LSU in the beginning.
And so it's going to take time, but he has shown that he can work his way out of it.
So if there's something like, yes, it's maddening.
Yesterday was frustrating to watch.
I get it.
But hopefully it's something that can be worked
out of him like it was at LSU. Okay. Anything on Bo Nix? So I said to you last year after the draft,
remember we did like kind of a recap show that this, in my opinion, this would be the, that,
and we're kind of jokingly saying it, but like the arrogance of Sean Payton to take Bo Nix at 12,
right? But then also backed it up with the respect I have for Sean Payton to take Bo Nix at 12, right. But then also backed it up
with the respect I have for Sean Payton. And if there's anyone who could do it, he's on a very
short list that can make this work. But I respectfully disagreed with his assessment of Bo Nix. But
again, it's his system. He's met with them and gotten into his mind and understood like what
drives them and all that. And so he thinks that can work.
Then, so you're looking at it and you say,
my valuation not as high as him in number 12,
but Sean Payton has a proven track record. Great with quarterbacks,
knows what he's looking for, loves this guy. So let's see how it plays out.
The only thing I would say to this point is A it's one game, B it was ugly,
C can't throw into triple coverage. Like our chaletta was great.
And I don't know if you watched it. He's like, no ball didn't even come out.
He goes, Oh no. I think he said, Oh no. And then they get picked.
It was picked on the second one. Yeah. Yeah. The second one, the second one.
He goes, Oh no. And then the ball comes out of his hand gets picked.
And then he waited, pause, you know, let the, the, uh, play by play guy announced it.
He's like, you can't make that decision.
You can't make that throw.
And then you, we watched the replay and three guys around him.
My point, bigger picture point in this is I watched two of the preseason games is Steve
Levy.
My guys, he's calling the games and, and I I'm watching it.
I'm like, Oh, Sean was right.
Like he looks great.
You know, Bo looked great in the preseason, but it was it against number two's who was
what was the competition?
So, and so now you've got all this hype coming out of camp.
Everyone's talking about how like he's going to be the best rookie quarterback in the class.
And again, it's week one.
So maybe he will be, but it, it, it,
it looked a lot like in week one against Seattle,
it looked a lot like I expected it to look when the draft pick was turned in.
And I said to you, I don't see this. I'm not saying I'm right.
I'm like, he's going to get better. Sean will absolutely coach him,
coach him out of some of the mistakes. We will,
we will see a steady improvement arc. I'm there's no question about it,
but I guess it's just a quick caution tale of like,
maybe don't over hype your rookie quarterback.
Maybe don't have him go in the, for the first game of the year,
saying that he's like, he's the guy. Like I listened to like 15 minutes from Diana
Rossini who was just reporting what, what the conversation she's having. It was compelling, very compelling,
but talking about like, this is the,
this is the stamp he needed on this organization. This is exactly, you know,
the guy that they expected him to be when they drafted him.
They're thrilled with his development and all those things can be true,
but to send him out there week one after a couple of good preseason games with everyone nationally having this sense of like,
Bo's ready. Here we go. Off and running.
I think it's like a disservice a little bit.
Look, it's hard. It's one week. It likely means nothing.
But if we said that the podcast is two minutes long, we can talk about what we saw knowing it may mean nothing. But if we said that the podcast is two minutes long. That's true. Uh, we can talk about what we saw knowing it may mean nothing.
Deshaun Watson's played more than one game.
He's played a bunch.
I shared the stat in the open.
I'll share it with you again.
I can't even believe this thing is real.
CBS sports had this stat where of the 1700 times a quarterback has thrown the
ball 15 or more yards down the field, 10 or more times in a game.
He's the only one that's completed zero of those 1700 plus instances.
So of all the games where quarterbacks had 10 throws or more of 15 or more
yards down the field, so that's 10 attempts, 15 or more yards down the field.
He's the only one that hasn't completed any.
Gosh.
It's so ridiculous.
I'm not, I saw it, look, it was up on CBS. So I assume it wasn't like I
just saw it from Doug in that ass, 641. So I didn't, you know, I assume it's right if they put it up
there. It's such an astonishingly like bad stat. So another stat- Can I give you another ridiculous
stat that I heard on a different quarter? Yeah, sure. I mean, there's a list of-
But I want to preface this
It's probably not even true. I just saw it right before we came on
So like let's let's double check this numbers that are probably not true. Yeah
This should be a segment the numbers that we've got fooled by by social media
Daniel jones since signing 160 million dollar contract with the giants
Daniel jones has thrown more touchdown passes to the opposing
players than to his own teammates that can't be true impossible
than the Watson one.
Let's double check that through to do we have we have like stats
and information here.
What can we do?
We don't have there's no way that regardless the point is on
both of them true or not on these stats, it's scary.
Both of these organizations,
let's go back to Deshaun.
Okay, so wait, so since you got the contract before,
I don't know how many pick sixes there are,
but he's had only two touchdowns, he's had eight picks,
so if there's three pick sixes in there, I guess it is true.
I mean, it sounds astonishing until you realize
he's had two touchdowns, he's only played seven games the last two years. I don't know off
the top of my head how many picks sixes he's had. Maybe if you look that up, I could do
that. But yeah, that one's nuts. But I want to stay on Deshaun here because it's a bigger
thing because none of us had any hope for Daniel Jones really. It felt like a gap year.
It's why they let Saquon leave and all that stuff. But if you look at Deshaun, and this
is the number going around yesterday, it'd be 172.7 million in
dead cap money. The record, I thought the Wilson number was supposed to be in the 80s. I looked it
up again today. Maybe it's in the 50s. So I don't want, I thought it was 85. And then I saw something
where it was like, it's actually counting. The point is, is this would be more than double,
whatever, or potentially triple the highest dead cap number is.
So you spent six picks on him, three were first rounders,
but it wasn't that, it was that you set the standard
for the biggest guaranteed number
because of the peculiar nature
of how the transaction even goes down
where Deshaun ends up benefiting because of his own shit.
But in the beginning, you're thinking,
okay, maybe it's the rust.
I mean, I thought he was one of the five best quarterbacks
in the league for probably like a two year stretch.
I thought he did the most with the least around him.
And that's how, and I've taught everyone listening is like, Hey,
Bracilla, we've already heard your whole fucking spiel and he was hurt
last year, the whole thing.
And then I see what happens yesterday.
And I'm, I'm just like, what do you do if you're Cleveland?
Yeah.
I mean, I, I mean, if, if, if you're the eternal optimist and sick in the
head, you're like, well, we got two kind of backup backup type offensive tackles against Michael
Parsons and that defensive front. And, you know, it's first game, first game of the season,
and we'll make some adjustments and all that stuff, but he just doesn't look right, man.
He just doesn't look right. He doesn't look confident.
His accuracy is not where it needs to be.
He's lost a little bit of twitch.
He's still athletic and can move, but he's not like, I don't know.
He's lost like a quarter step, if you will.
It's scary.
It's scary because this is a good football team.
They've got weapons.
It's scary. It's scary because this is a good football team. They've got weapons
They've they've got a defense that is they can play, you know They can compete and be a you know
Deep run into the playoff type team if they had if they had a good offense to match with it
But to think that you spent that much draft capital and this much money
On a quarterback.
And now literally, literally your biggest weakness and biggest concern is your quarterback.
I think we like forever.
It was like Hershel, the Hershel Walker trade was the worst trade in the
history of, of the NFL and maybe in sports, right?
Am I getting that wrong?
I think that was, that was the one that we liked the standard. How is this not the,
so to date, how is this not the worst trade in the history of sports?
Yeah, it, it really might be. I mean,
you could sit there and say that at least you got Herschel Walker.
Yeah.
You're looking up something. So I'll give you a minute.
No, no.
When do you lose confidence in the locker room? Like, I don't know.
You talk about pressure on you. You talk about pressure on an, on a human being.
Who are they playing in week two?
You want to talk about pressure on a human being. Like there were circumstances.
He remember he, before he got injured last year, he had that, he had a great game. I mean, it's hard to imagine more pressure being on an individual than, than Deshaun Watson against Jacksonville week two.
Yeah. Um, it was,
it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was,
it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was,
it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was,
it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was,
it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it's hard to imagine more pressure being on an individual than, than Deshaun Watson against Jacksonville week two.
Yeah. Um, it was, it was atrocious.
This is research on the fly show.
I want you to think about on a personal level too. And I like, I'm like, but,
no one cares about that. No, no, I understand.
I'm just saying from a personal confidence level and what you once were
revered as and considered. Dabo Sweeney is like, like long lost son, the face of a Clemson program
that was doing it the right way. Like the character through the roof, everyone worshiped you.
You come in the NFL, you exceed expectations. I was concerned about
him making the transition from that offense and the consistency as a passer. He exceeds expectations.
He now, like he goes from Clemson royalty to like Houston, Texas royalty. Everything in the world is
going for you. And then the off the field stuff happens.
And now you get to Cleveland, you got a fresh start,
and you're still carrying all that other stuff that you earned.
Right.
And now all of a sudden you're looked at as like a horrible human being
and a quarterback that has sucked the life out of a franchise.
Can you imagine the pressure on a human being having to wake up this morning? I'm just saying like, think about it.
I don't know. I don't know how he's wired. I don't know him. I don't know.
But you're right. It's likely, it's likely this week sucks for him.
By the way, that game against Baltimore, they won. Remember how weird it was?
They got a touchdown and then they had the pick six.
So a game where they were down like 30, 17 late, they came back and won it.
His numbers are fine.
They're nothing special, but considering how bad he was last year or how bad he
was yesterday, 200 yards and a win, you would take it.
Um, speaking of bad trades, cause people throw around the Bryce young move up to
go ahead and take him for Carolina and then Chicago ending up with Caleb, DJ
Moore, the other pick, um, look, I remember getting in an argument with Van Pelt when
Jermarcus Russell flamed out with the Raiders.
Okay.
Jermarcus, you were there for the pro day.
You've already talked about it a million times.
Like it was one of the most impressive things you've ever seen.
So that's why that guy goes number one overall.
Um, when you watch him play with the Raiders, I thought Jermarcus
Russell had the worst pocket awareness.
I think I've seen him of any quarterback that was supposed to be something.
He just, he just never, it never computed that it was like, Hey, if you, pocket awareness. I think I've seen him of any quarterback that was supposed to be something.
It never computed that it was like, hey, if you don't know where it is, it could be over here. If you do know where it is, this means all these sort of, it just never, like whatever dude,
you're going to hit me? Fine. Not going to adjust to any of this stuff. Even having said all of that
and hearing that he wasn't mature and it wasn't going to work out, usually when you know that
one won't pick, you get another chance.
And I made that argument with Van Pelt.
And if you go into the Jamarcus Russell timeline, there's actually a couple of times where it
looked like he was going to get that tryout.
The number one pick flaming out somewhere ends up on a roster somewhere else.
The Bryce Young stuff was so bad yesterday that I think red zone cut away to just a completion
in the second half.
It wasn't even a big deal.
The game was over.
Saints were rolling.
Carr had it.
It was like, hey, here's a nice throw and catch from him.
Are you surprised it's this bad?
Yes.
Yes.
Because you liked him, right?
I liked him too.
I liked him a lot.
I liked him a lot.
I saw the potential pitfalls with the durability
and the size and those sorts of things, but I thought he was special in college.
I thought he was special in college. I, I'm not saying he doesn't, you know,
there's not a portion of it that is, that is on him. Um, but how do you,
how do you succeed with this? How do you succeed with this? And then,
and watching it is gut wrenching to me me because I spend like a lot of my life
watching to it's sad. It's not, it's, it sounds like you're being dramatic,
but no, I spent a lot of my life like sitting there on this iPad on the screen
over here watching tape. And,
and it's hard to see a guy who you really like as a human being.
And you're really like, as a human being and you're really like as a player be put in a situation where
it's like you're stealing his like his soul from him and then to watch him like now like
losing confidence in what he does and losing his his like mechanics and footwork and not
being confident and throws like the position itself is so driven by confidence.
Like the position itself is so driven by confidence. Do I see what, like am I seeing the picture clearly?
Do I understand where you guys are going to be?
Am I confident that my receiver's going to break
at the right time?
Am I confident in my protection
and that I set the protection?
Well, everything's about confidence.
Am I confident in this throw?
And when you get to the line of scrimmage
and you're not confident in any of those factors,
you start to, it starts to chip away at you. And I'm seeing that with Bryce.
Like that throw where he rolled to the,
I don't know how much you watched yesterday,
rolled to the left and normally like,
it was a vintage Bryce Young Alabama throw.
And it was like a third down, I think it was,
rolling to his left.
And all he had to do was like throw back,
kind of not across his body, but back, open his hips and throw it to a receiver who had a little bit of room
and he missed it by like three yards, bud. Like, I don't know.
It's hard to watch. And so like, what, where does this end? Like what,
you know, like we met you, David Carr earlier. Remember what David Carr was,
went through. I didn't love David Carr coming up,
but I also was like a 23 year old punk who didn't care about your value.
I don't think you knew how to grind then. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't.
I've met the grind. What were your grades in eighth grade? Yeah. Yeah. They
suck. Where did you have Eric Zier? They suck. But like when you were,
I kept going and I got game reps, but no, but seriously, like I'm worried about this guy.
I'm worried about who he can be in the NFL and what he could have been if put
in a different situation. It sucks. And, and, and Carolina,
like could it have worse ownership and they bring in a new coach? But like,
I don't know. It's just, it's hard to watch.
You can't roll out in week one after with new coaching staff
and like, like,
look, they spent money in the old line. It's not the best receiver group,
obviously, but like, but that's what you, that's what you're rolling out.
Like this is 2024 baby. Go, go Panthers. Like
that's the, it was over by the first quarter. Oh, over, over.
And it was just, it was so bad.
Like Jayden and bone next. Youix. You can see where the, where the progressions can be week one to two and then two to six and six to week 17.
Like we know what the progressions can be and you have some form of confidence there's going to be an upward arc.
With Carolina, I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. Okay. Last thing here, uh, because when Detroit was being introduced on NBC last night
on offense, I'm like, you, you've got to be kidding me.
Like just every guy, Nick, no, I'm just, I'm talking golf, Laporta, St.
Brown, Jameson, you know, Freddie Gibbs, and then Sue, and then ragged it like the whole offensive line. I'm going, this is, this is nuts.
And then the, the numbers, you know, they've spent some top draft picks
on the dissensive side of the ball too, but we know that the priorities.
I haven't looked at the cap splits for teams yet this year.
I've been yelling you for the last two years about Brad Holmes.
You have been, I'll get, I accept the yelling now.
Spielman who I worked with for traveled with, and he's, he's like family. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I Brad Holmes. You haven't. I'll get, I'll accept the yelling now.
And my boy Spielman, who I worked with, traveled with, and he's, he's like family, extended
family to me.
And he's in the organization.
So I've always tried to like, you know, I've got plenty, plenty of friends in different
places and, um, but, but he has brought me inside like the inner workings, not like who
they're picking and what their board is, but like their process and how much respect he has for Brad
and the work that they put in and all that stuff.
And so, it's just been funny to watch
like the Lions draft sucks, they get an F grade,
it's horrible, why are they drafting a running back
in the first round and a tight end?
And I said after the last few drafts, like I love them.
Like the Jamison Williams pick is exactly what we expected outside of the four game
suspension.
Right.
The development that he can bring and you don't have to like, you don't have to win.
It's a win now when they drafted him and to see the impact he had last year.
And now the development he's taken in year three, you know, and like buying
in and all that stuff.
This is an organization that like it's hard not to root for and, and every,
like it's all Dan Campbell and I get it.
But like Brad Holmes has been the like behind the scenes glue, man.
They have drafted their asses off.
They all of a sudden, like they've got an offensive coordinator who's who's
Brilliant who like a lot of places wanted to bring him in as head coach and he continues to go back
Because sometimes like sometimes if you're just exceptional at something stick with it as long as you can
Because you become a head coach
You can't do what he's doing here with the weapons that they continue to bring in like I love it
I love it. I love it.
Are they going to win the Superbowl?
I don't know.
I mean, there's a bunch of teams.
You and I were talking offline about like the best rosters
in the league.
They're up there with them,
but there are several other teams, but my goodness,
they have stacked it the last few years in the draft.
And it's brilliant to watch what they've been able to do.
Yeah. The reason I was thinking about that cap split was
because last year they were
so far and away spending more on offense than they were defense.
They were the number one spending offense.
They spent 121 last year on defense.
They spent 68 surprisingly.
And again, sometimes it's just the way you work out the contracts and the
scheduling of the payments and you know, somebody I think sometimes you can look
at it as playing with a little bit, but they're middle of the pack on offense, but still significantly more than the defense. Where if you look at it,
the number of teams that spend, like the Rams spent 176 million of their cap on offense and
44 million on their defense. Really? That's nuts. I know you weren't asking for that. I'm like, I'm going to go to the be naming good teams. Detroit is in that conversation for you though, because I don't know how you
could look at the roster. And it was just a nice little reminder as all the guys are
being introduced on offense. And I'm like, oh, he's good. I like him. That offensive
lineman is awesome. Oh, he is too. That guy's terrific. And then golf, you know, becoming
what he's become, which is incredibly rare.
And you got Hutchinson on defense. You got Corners now for once.
Yeah, Terri and Arnold had the bad penalty there, but yeah.
Whatever.
Um, you, you, yeah, you, you, you shot me a Texas.
It was like best rosters in the league and in no specific order.
These are the ones I came up with.
Chiefs jets.
I know that might surprise people, but you look at their talent from top to
bottom, they are one of the eyes.
Look, I'm, I'm completely with you.
Like I was looking at that coaching hot seat thing odds and Robert Sala was on there.
And I thought from what he's been asked to do, considering what they've had at
quarterback in the way I know Joe's your buddy, but every time I watch a jet's
team on defense now, this is, I expect to be going into like the third year.
I'm like, look at all of these fucking guys on defense.
They're just stacked.
And now they, their offensive line,
if they hold up should be decent.
Right, right.
There's two big question marks on the old line,
but like they knew it with Wilson.
You've got one of the best backs in the league in Breeze Hall.
You got one of the best young receivers in the league
in Garrett Wilson.
I mean, they're loaded.
So.
Okay. So, so again, give me your tier one. Tier one, cheese. Tier one best rosters in the league and Garrett Wilson, I mean, they're, they're loaded. So, okay. So, so again, give me your tier one,
cheer one, cheer one best rosters in the NFL.
And again, not in order.
I just want AFC, NFC, chiefs jets, Texans, Niners, lions, top five
rosters in my opinion, the three that I put like right in that next
tier right on the packers packers aren't in there.
And the next tier packers, Eagles, Ravens, take it or leave it.
You have the Texans over the Eagles.
I love the roster, man.
Yeah.
I get it.
Like there's bigger names and all that.
Yeah.
I might be falling for the Georgia stuff.
Although my man, the Kobe Dean out there getting some snaps took a little while.
Yeah.
Finally, man.
That was driving me nuts.
Driving me nuts.
He's like, do I not know anything
about middle linebacker playing?
Yeah, come on, I'm a Mike guy.
This was great, man.
It's good to get back at it.
We'll have some other announcements coming up.
Yeah, I'm just hopeful we can make a big announcement soon.
There you go, perfect.
Sounds good, man.
I'll talk to you soon. Talk to you next Monday.
All right, brother. You got it.
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Which Jersey is that from the Pats? It's a bruski Jersey. I
Just keep picking the wrong guys. They keep I even got Jack Jones if you guys watch it up Pats
You know, I bought my most recent Jersey was a Jack Jones. He's gone
He's on the Raiders now. Yeah, they didn't want to sign him, right? I don't know
I think he might have been think it might have been like a bad guy candidate
I'm not sure but I think that's,
I think that's pretty good for your defense.
Maybe you should change the scenery,
bad guys on defense.
Anyway, so yeah, I'm just looking at classics now.
I brought it up too many times, I think already,
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He couldn't, within 12 months,
every jersey he bought, the guy was gone.
It was unbelievable.
What a run.
I was surprised the guy didn't die.
about the guy was gone.
It was unbelievable. What a run.
Yeah.
I was surprised the guy didn't die.
Cause I grabbed an Ed Coda at Marshall's and then I was just, I don't know.
I talk about that Ed Coda Jersey too much.
Uh, okay.
Let's, uh, let's read some emails.
Let's get to it.
Okay.
Where was one here that I thought was pretty self-explanatory. Just need to find it. Okay. Where was one here that I thought was pretty self-explanatory.
Just need to find it.
Okay.
Uh, I want another cat, but my boyfriend hates my cat already.
Ooh.
All right.
I'm 24 years old, five foot, six and a half inches tall, way about 125.
Player cop is the girl from Queens Gambit.
Doug and chess.
Does she play hoops?
The balls are we just talking dimensions like skinny just
watched.
Friosa was a great movie.
She was in it.
Great movie call from Saru.
You're a hard marker.
No, I'm not.
I think the Mad Max movies are awesome, dude.
There.
I mean, I think generally you're, you're tough on the arts.
Uh, I, I've been known to get like wrapped up in like a hype train.
Like I loved, I was like really excited about dune.
You know, if a big movie comes out, I get excited about it.
And I thought if you're furious, it lived up to the hype.
Not better than the first one.
Right?
No, the first one's it.
I mean, that's the, that was the top five movie experience of my life.
Solo solo West Hartford on a, bucket of popcorn, large Coke.
Doesn't get better than that.
Kyle, what was the last time you went to a movie solo?
Solo?
I don't know.
I don't think I got the stones for that.
I don't think ever.
Oh, it's the best, dude.
I don't think ever.
What do you mean you don't have the stones?
What are you afraid of?
Like I think I've thought about it.
You're not gonna get beat up in the parking lot.
No, it's not that.
It's more like, all right, here,
we've arrived at this part of your life now.
So I mean, and that just might be a bad on me.
You think that's depressing?
I think that's, man, that's like one of my favorite things.
Well, see, I don't know.
I think the idea of it's depressing,
but I really don't know.
I mean, there's been times,
actually I probably have cheated myself.
There's been many times,
like I wanted to go see that alien movie.
And-
That's a great solo movie.
Pitched it to my wife and she was like,
you know what, I like those, but I think I'd wait.
So I looked, what is it gonna be available to rent?
It's like November.
Usually I, so go somewhere anyway.
Right.
What if we pay for the ticket?
Well, it's not, I got money guys.
It's not that. I know.
But what if we want you to go?
You've never been to a movie by yourself.
No, I can't say that I have.
I'll give it a go.
I think I went to up by myself.
That's a...
Yeah.
That's an alert.
I can't tell if that's real or not.
Very rough first 20 minutes.
The best 20 minutes.
It's great.
Best 20 minutes in movie history.
It gets me every time.
That's a bit much, but...
Best first 20 minutes? It's up there.
It's excellent, but I don't know.
I haven't done, we had to get research on that.
What's the C-mail about?
I have a big problem and I'm going to put it in simple terms.
I want another cat.
My boyfriend doesn't.
Uh, we rule with your boyfriend next to you.
Yeah, no.
Yeah.
I have a cat and I regret it.
Not that I don't like the cat, but I kind of did it for my wife.
She's a big cat person. We already had a dog. Now we have two dogs. I like, I love the two dogs.
I have no issue with two dogs. The cat actually keeps to himself, but I just, the litter box sucks, man.
It sucks. And if you don't have a good place to put it, then I'm just, I'm kind of out on cats.
100% in. I think if it's like a love me, love my cat situation,
don't make it harder to love you.
That's what you're planning.
I'm like, hey, should I make life harder for him?
And there's no-
What's the rabbit count right now?
Just gonna, I'm gonna leave everything where it is.
Still live.
That's what I say to my buddies when they ask.
It's a joke.
They all laugh and I just let out a big sigh.
We move on.
Do we want the rest of the,
do we need the rest of the email? Yeah, sure
I don't maybe there's something we don't know but yeah, it's gonna be tough turning around
Feel like we already answered it. Let me go back and find it
No, I was I didn't even want a follow-up but I you know what we don't have a ton of that's it women female listeners
So maybe we'll just be all right. So it continues.
I always, always wanted a cat. My boyfriend, we live together, wasn't
ecstatic about the idea, but now because
we share a New York city apartment, I've
generally wanted one for so long and it
would make me super happy.
So there was this time when he went to a
Nick's game with his family, I got a cat
while he was gone.
Oh geez. That's like two hour window. There was this time when he went to a Knicks game with his family. I got a cat while he was gone. Oh, jeez.
That's like two hour window.
The cat is the cat has grown on him a bit.
He calls her cat instead of it.
Yeah, it's incredible progress.
That's actually very funny because we growing up my family,
we had a bunch of cats, but always outdoor cats.
And they would just kind of, you know, go disappear.
They would disappear after a while when we get a new one.
And we always just called them Gato.
So it'd be like Gato one, Gato two.
They never actually had names.
It was just Gato.
Did you even have cats then?
Or do you just keep buying them and just hoping for the best?
My dad is funny because my dad's like not an animal guy.
Do you have a mouse problem?
Was that it?
Kind of. Yeah. My dad's very efficient. Like we'll get the cat, you know, like we'll do it,
but it's not coming inside. But then my dad ended up loving the cat.
The cat was also like kind of mean, but my dad liked it. So there you go. So we leave
some food outside. But yeah, got to one through four, I think. I think we ended with got to four.
Well, it sounds like her boyfriend would be into this sort of outdoors
situation, but I don't think that's on the table. Yeah.
Yeah, they're in the city.
Okay.
So he calls it cat now,
and he realized the cat's kind of just stay out of your way
and it's fine.
My concern is that my cat is getting depressed
because she has no friends.
So I want to get another kitten so that she can play with,
and then she won't meow at my boyfriend
when he gets ready for work in the morning
because she's already entertained.
I think the logic really tracks and he would be fine with it if we had a house,
but given that it's a one bedroom apartment, it's kind of a stretch.
My algorithm keeps sending me adorable kitten videos and I just really want one
anyway, not sure what to do.
Oh, no kidding.
It's sending you videos of things that you're interested in that you've
stopped and looked at before.
I have a feeling I'm in the wrong
and I should just suck it up.
But in the slight chance you think I could get a kitten,
please let me know.
Work really hard, get enough money to get a house.
I don't know what to say.
Wow.
I feel bad for young people
with the way the home ownership is trending.
I wonder if it correlates to cat ownership.
That'd be interesting. Does anybody run that access?
Some people would make that connection.
Um, I feel right too about the litter box.
The litter box sucks as I can tell.
And then you're not only, yeah.
And you're like, think about a one bedroom apartment, New York city.
Now shrink that down in your imagination and we're going to, we're going to have a double
litter box.
Uh, it's not going have a double litter box thing.
It's not gonna, it's terrible.
Our litter box is in the basement,
basically like bathroom area and I still hate it.
I hate cleaning it out.
I don't, it's just, again, the cat actually
is like pretty low maintenance.
Like he doesn't need a ton of stuff, but it's just.
They don't need a ton of stuff,
but they're gonna ship a box in your house
and if you live in the Northeast
or a place with a colder climate
and it's a really, really small square footage
that we're talking about, so that means you're heating it.
Maybe it's an older apartment.
Baseboards, it's hot in the summer.
It's just baking cat shit in your apartment.
So think of it that way.
Ask your boyfriend this,
hey, do you want more baked cat shit this winter?
Slow roasted?
So the other problem is your boyfriend is already like a trooper by
Still kind of I'm not trying to be a dick but still being with you when you just surprised him with a cat
And now you're gonna you want to get another cat you want to test your relationship that more
And then the way you said it like your cat is depressed so you think that it needs a companion
That's like never a good idea
That's like the people you know the people who have like one kid,
like, oh yeah, this will make him better
if we just have another kid.
It's like, eh, or-
No, you mean the divorce.
Like, let's get divorced, now let's have a kid.
And it's like two years later,
and we're like, we still hate each other.
That too, yeah.
It's never like, the answer is never like
to get one more thing, that'll fix the problem, you know?
Unless it's a boat.
And the fact that you bought the first cat while he went to a game.
Yeah.
I have a hard time with people that buy pets on their own.
And I'm going to leave it at that.
I get the specifics.
What do you, I'm not trying to, but, but when it, when it happens, it's like,
Hey, we've talked about this.
Okay.
All right.
No problem.
And then it's just big.
Fuck you.
I'm getting it. Now I'm getting
another one. This might be a little too close to home, but what do you think about Herbstreet
bringing his dogs on the road or his dog on the road? I think he's now doing it because some people
are annoyed about how often he's doing it, that he's just doubling down and like dog content works.
If I just decided to go all dog content,
the next year I'd be well over a million followers.
It's the easiest trick in the fucking game.
You should do that.
Okay?
You stuck this Rex cabinet.
I'd be hitting.
Oh man, there you go.
I mean, I think the least unimpressive thing
in content today is people who just post other videos.
Like there's this one guy who's on this run
and it's my fault because I've looked at him.
So I see him now all the time.
It'll be like just in, like, no, it isn't.
We all saw it like two hours ago from the other person.
And you're just doing it for this.
And then he was kind of like, can't believe we did it.
We built this in something.
And you were like, you didn't do any.
And then if you were to actually,
I wouldn't get into that argument. But if you said you didn't do anything and then if you were to actually I wouldn't get in that argument
But if you said you didn't do anything and it'd be like well if it's so easy to do why don't you do it?
Like it's so unimpressive. I wouldn't do it
Am I still on the podcast? I feel like I'm talking to somebody else right now. We don't deserve dogs, dude
Yeah, I deserve dog. No, no if
Yeah, there's a chance
Next contract things work out.
I would then just say, fuck it,
and post dog and like kids eating ice cream videos
just to see what would happen,
because of how stupid it is.
All right, anyway, next email.
Calling out a stereotype.
Uh-oh, 510190.
Player comp is a ground Hakim, not a smooth,
so watch the elbows.
Hello guys, Ins and senior Rudy.
Oh, okay.
A little flavor on this.
I see what he did.
Two buddies and I hit up a local video game tournament
to play Tekken 8.
Well, there's an opening line.
Sick.
It was in a comic book store, hold the geek stereotype jokes,
fairly small, about 16 players total.
And I ended up finishing fourth
Alright, however throughout the tournament my interactions with everyone felt off after a match
I would say good game and offer a fist bump, but the other player would just stare at my fist and walk away
Talking with other players and even the store manager a bit
I noticed they all kept their conversation with me concise and seemed pretty dismissive when When I asked the store manager how cool it is to host it,
as I've never been to one before,
he said, yeah, thanks dude.
And I caught him roll his eyes towards another
who smirked back at him.
Catching up with my friends after,
wondered if they felt the weird energy too.
They looked at me in disbelief
and asked me if I was being serious.
When we first entered the place,
it reeked straight up stereotype, no D-O, straight B-O.
And it was throughout the store.
And I guess I thought I was whispering when I looked at my buddies after hanging around
the shop for five minutes and said, man, the stereotype is true.
These dudes smell like ass.
And looking back at it, I did see two guys out of the corner of my eye turn around and stare.
My friends say I said it loud enough for the whole story to hear, but I'm really shocked and I wasn't paying attention to my volume.
I don't necessarily feel guilty about it. Do you guys think I've given myself a reputation now where whenever I head back.
At the Tech Encircuit?
Yeah. Is there a Reddit tech and thread about you? Like that guy that came in fourth is a dick, you know.
Should I clear things with the store manager?
I don't think you ever go back there.
Yeah, it's an L for you.
Yeah.
He definitely said it.
I mean, if that's true, I mean, it sounds a bit like a-
He probably exclaimed it, right?
He didn't whisper it.
He was like, whoa, smells like ass in here.
Oh wait, sorry guys.
And he said the stereotype is true.
It sounds like it could be,
it's always sunny in Philadelphia storyline,
but I haven't seen every episode.
This feels like a TV.
That's an episode, Kyle.
Write it down.
Put it down in our episode log book.
I don't know that I'm mad at you, but like figure it out.
Figure out your fucking volume.
I know.
You know, don't walk right in.
But people are oblivious to it sometime.
I'll still never forget like, you know, it was like a travel basketball team.
I think I was 14.
My buddy was 15.
My dad picked us up and my buddy kept saying the F word.
He said it a thousand times.
I feel like he just couldn't stop swearing.
And at that point I wasn't swearing in front of my parents.
And then we stopped to get like Gatorades or something.
I was like, dude, you're swearing nonstop in the car.
And he was like, I am?
You know, and he just, he couldn't, he couldn't figure out.
So some people just have no idea
what they're actually doing when they're talking. I would ask your friends, like, is this
something you normally do?
And the lesson would be to work on that.
You're not repairing this.
They're never going to forget you.
Nobody walks into a tech and eight tournament
and says, Hey, everybody smells like ass in here.
They're not used to that.
It checks out.
They're never going to forget you.
And again, it'd be one thing if it's like a
bad night out and it's in your town and you've got to
repair, you've got to go on the apology tour, you
know what I mean?
Or something at a dinner with friends, like stuff
happens where you'll feel like, ah, I should fix
this.
And I don't even think you worry about fixing
this one.
No, just go to the tech and eight convention and
the other town.
Yeah. Just absorb the shame and, and you know, make it a teachable moment.
I think that's, that's really it.
Yeah.
If you can't play in Tekken tournaments anymore, what's, what are you really losing?
I think that game's online now anyway, so you're okay.
I get, I get why it would suck though.
Cause he's like, it's true.
Like it's stunk in there and you're like, what did I do wrong?
It's true, whatever.
Maybe they should take a shower.
There's plenty of stuff that's probably true.
No, that you shouldn't say out loud,
I get that, but he's probably just like, whatever, man.
Or he's one of those guys, everybody's got that friend
or multiple of these friends where they're just way too
forward when they go into places,
and they don't understand how people
would be offended by things.
Let's go back to maybe the best thing I've ever said on this podcast.
My buddy who just went into my college friends group,
started calling everybody virgins.
That guy, you have to know that guy.
He's not a huge asshole, but in an isolated incident,
that's an asshole move.
Maybe this guy was just like,
oh, whatever, I'm just trying to bust balls or it's not that serious,
because he's a jokester.
Then when people get offended by it they don't really
understand who that person is maybe that's you me or the no no maybe that's
this guy email or that's who he is as a personality no you wouldn't do that I
wouldn't do that but I could see somebody being like we're gonna yeah I
have to know I thought that's what you were doing that's what you're doing to
me now because you've done that before We don't need to do that anymore.
All right, we have time for one more.
Because I think the kitten one was pretty quick.
This is a new one.
I'm hesitant,
but I don't think we've ever done this before.
So we have the live show in Philly.
What's the date against Rudy?
Is it Monday the first?
Is that?
Tuesday the first.
Tuesday the first, October first.
So Chris Long.
Seven or 8 p.m. Yep.
So 8 p.m.
Um, you take it's available.
Still a few tickets available.
Well, it sounds like we've got one extra ticket in the mix. So here we go.
Date for the Philly show.
Jim stats, six to 200 ish pounds.
Never weigh myself.
How about this guy?
I didn't even care.
I don't need to worry about it.
Weighing myself back squat, 285 deadlift, three 75 bench, two 25 NBA comp is How about this guy? I didn't even fucking care. I don't need to worry about it.
Back squat 285, deadlift 375, bench 225.
NBA comp is no one because playing a couple of weeks of Juco ball 25 years ago means there's
no one in the NBA that deserves to be on that by saying this 45 year old guy who plays hoops
every Tuesday in a preschool gym literally doesn't get a single shot up any other day
is a poor man's Kyle Anderson, who is obviously a sick player.
Wow.
Some massive self-awareness from a guy who actually played Juco Hoops.
So, uh, we would have taken a comp, but yeah, Kyle Anderson becomes
a default for a lot of guys.
Yep.
Uh, okay.
I didn't kind of just, you know, just out there making stuff happen.
Uh, anyway, here's my situation.
About a year ago, I became a single dad.
I'm technically separated, not divorced, but it's been a year. We're on stuff happen. Anyway, here's my situation. About a year ago, I became a single dad. I'm technically separated, not divorced,
but it's been a year.
We're on great terms.
We both consider ourselves single moving forward,
knowing that we'll work out the divorce in the coming months.
I live about an hour and a half in Philly,
and I previously lived in and around Philly
for about 13 years.
I bought two tickets to your show,
thinking I can either find an old Philly friend
or bring someone from here,
and either way, it felt sad and depressing
looking at the one under quantity when I was checking out.
Don't worry about it.
But let's get past it.
I can, you know, much I love when you book in a hotel and it's like, how many
guests I have to change it every single time you ever know what kind of, yeah.
Sid, you know what show you're going to?
Like this is the most on brand thing you could possibly do.
We actually sold one ticket.
This is going to be me and you.
No question. An intimate affair with be me and you. No questions.
Intimate affair with Ryan Rosilla.
How would that show do?
Should we try to do that?
There's a live show.
One-on-one was that Charles Grodin show that had, what was that late night?
Weird show.
God, I've referenced this before and now I already forgot, but they
had like an audience of one Kyle.
Can you get it on that?
It was in the nineties was the audience of one and they just had one guy behind the rope. I don't even think it was Groton.
I think it was somebody else, but it was hilarious.
And it made me laugh all the time when I was a kid.
That all being said, I'm not exactly shouting for the mountain tops and I'm
freshly single because we have mutual friends, three kids, it just seems weird
to make any sort of proclamations on social media or anything like that.
I would, however, love your advice in this situation.
Even put the word out there.
There's mildly attractive guy. It just seems weird to make any sort of proclamations on social media or anything like that. I would, however, love your advice in this situation.
Even put the word out there, this mildly attractive guy. He sent a picture. He's a good looking dude.
Nice. Yeah. He's got great Tim Walsh hair, nice button down, great angle on the smile.
Look, I'm an observer of things. He's a good-looking dude
So I guess he's asking I mean dude, you know what podcast you listen to
We could probably hook you up with some girls about to get dumped if she gets another cat
It will be either the greatest date ever or massively or absolutely miserable so it's really a win-win in the grand scheme of things
He always listens. All right. So what's really a win-win in the grand scheme of things.
He always listens. All right. So what do we do with this? Can you take a first date to a
live Rossello show though? I don't know. I feel like that's a bit of a risk.
I think it's a terrible idea personally. Yeah. I mean, honestly, she's just going to be like, we'll make a thing out of it. Like, is he fat? Doesn't he talk about work? You know,
what's going on with that shirt?
So, sorry, I was looking up your audience of one late night thing, which honestly,
that Google search didn't yield too much stuff.
I'm gonna give up on that if that's okay with you.
Is he saying that he needs our help to find a date
or he's wondering if he should bring a new thing?
Okay. Or maybe both. Well, I would say if it doesn't
work out, holler at me because I've got a, like I said, I might be rolling deep
with a bunch of irresponsible dudes who I think will probably be asking me the
day of what I can do. So you just let me know. You want to hear some stories? The guy that drove across country.
Not a playing guy.
Not a playing guy.
Here's what we'll do.
We'll do it once.
I don't know if I want to,
can we get in trouble?
I think one time we tried to like set up Smallman
with somebody on the show.
We get called in the principal's office.
That was, no, that, Small one was actually over the house yesterday. She's doing great.
But I have to Michelle small. Yeah, shout out to Michelle. But no, that was when we
were at we were at UNC. We were at what was the top of the hill. There's a cool bar there
or whatever. And I think one of like our I don't even know what her title was, but person who organized the show,
was handing around mics to people in the audience
and somebody just asked Michelle out on the spot
and it was pretty uncomfortable and awkward
because it was definitely a no.
So I don't think we need to do that again.
Yeah, that was, it wasn't just awkward.
I think there was another time
where we had said something like that.
And again, we weren't doing it to be dicks.
We were just kind of like it became a talking point.
And then somebody came.
Oh, are you thinking about the time when Danny,
remember when we were talking about like
how many straight days you could have sex?
Cause Danny and his wife were trying to do something
like that and-
It wasn't that.
Okay, not that either.
All right, so I'm just striking out here but hold on no that was weird content though oh i do remember
it because i was like he's doing this on the air and then because we were trying to like in radio
you sit there and think okay it's monday after week one of football. It's like, yeah, but the best stuff is always the stuff that's stupid.
And that, and so he was trying to expand and credit to him for even trying.
And I think in the pre-show meeting, I was like, if you want to tell
that story on the air, I guess you can.
Yeah.
But I thought we were trying to set somebody up once and then somebody came
down and it was like, I don't like this sounds like this is bad the way this
sounds and we, uh, we were like, okay, we'll stop.
We'll stop doing that.
By the way, Alan Havy was the host
of the show night after night, Alan Havy.
He also played Lou Avery on Mad Men, Scouts Honor.
If you remember that cartoon that blew up, he hated, he
hated Don Draper. Hated him. I didn't like, I didn't like Lou
on the show.
We pass that off to you. So you just got to know your limits. I
was like, I'm just an audience of one late night show is my
Google and it was just like our late night shows audiences
declining.
I don't even get the Tim Walsh.
Yes, they are are by the way.
I'm way better.
That's my roommate from college,
so you're not supposed to go to college.
Oh, okay.
So Tim Walsh hair, I was like,
what am I missing right now?
Guy has model hair.
He's like almost 50.
Guy gets better looking every year.
Shout out to Lake Forest.
So I think we've come up with nothing.
I will. No, nothing. Let me there's nothing wrong with going solo, man.
If nothing happens, I'm actually gonna need help.
Oh, how many guys are you bringing, Kyle?
I don't know if I wanna, what do you mean, why?
Are you worried?
Yeah, a little bit.
All right, well then I don't know how many.
It's all part of it, man.
It's all part of the mystique.
Well, that'll do it.
It could get weird because my sister-in-law and, and her
friend, no, no, no, they're in addition.
They're in Philly.
They're in addition to the dudes.
So like, it's going to be a colliding of worlds.
My parents were thinking about it.
I'm not really sure where this is going to go.
And then there's like five to seven people that might go from Los
Angeles and New York City
and Poughkeepsie.
Do those guys not have vacation time
or do these their vacations?
This blows my mind that every time we do a live show,
there's like seven guys from the Frolic Room
that are like in.
That's pretty supportive.
Actually, let's spin it to a positive.
Supportive of their friend.
Yeah, okay.
That's how we're ending, positive Mondays.
Thanks to Saruti, thanks to Kyle, thanks to Wargon.
Check us out on YouTube.
We're gonna have a new thing up on Wednesday.
I'm saying that because now I'm forcing myself to do it.
Taping it Wednesday up Friday.
I don't know if I wanna release on Friday before weekend,
but let's talk about that.
We'll have a meeting.
We'll zoom in.
Nice little argument there.
Nice.
Yeah, I like that.
All right, Ryan Russell of Podcast. I little argument there. Nice. Yeah, I like that. All right. Ryan Rosilla Podcasts.
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