The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Wild-Card Weekend Recap: The Jayden Daniels Show, Herbert, Love, and Tomlin Questions, QB Legacy Updates and the Arch Manning Future at Texas With Chris Simms

Episode Date: January 13, 2025

Ryen opens with his thoughts on NFL wild-card weekend, including Jayden Daniels not playing like a playoff rookie and some QB legacy updates from the other matchups (00:40). Then, he chats with NBC’s Chris Simms on whether the Justin Herbert criticism is fair, Mike Tomlin’s future with the Steelers, the huge Ravens-Bills, Lamar vs. Allen showdown, and why he thinks the Eagles might be the best team in football (15:57). Finally, Ceruti and Kyle join for Life Advice, including tracking down stolen AirPods and what to do with a sweaty friend (56:49). Check us out on YouTube for exclusive clips, livestreams, and more at https://www.youtube.com/@RyenRussilloPodcast The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Host: Ryen Russillo Guest: Chris Simms Producers: Steve Ceruti, Kyle Crichton, and Mike Wargon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A packed wildcard weekend will break down the headlines, the statue should know, and a little QB legacy update potentially as well. Chris Sims breaking down all of the games, what he loved from Jaden Daniels before the draft, obviously what we've loved his rookie year, maybe a peek ahead to Baltimore and Buffalo and just what teams are doing to certain quarterbacks around the league. We've got life advice without Oregon, which is a disappointment, but enjoy the podcast. Let's recap NFL Wild Card weekend.

I'm going to recap all of the games with the headline, stat you should know when the game was over and then some other stuff At the very end we start with Washington's 23 20 win a walk-off win against the Tampa Bay Bucks The headline for this one is that it's Washington ending a massive playoff drought It's incredible whenever you go back and look at some of these things, but it's the first win for Washington in the playoffs since 2006 It's only their fourth playoff win as a franchise since they won the Superbowl in 1991. And these numbers every time, maybe I'm the only one that's always blown away by some of the droughts that we're not as

familiar with unless you are a fan of that team. Um, Jane Daniels, man, needed one first down to run out the clock and set up the game winning field goal. Uh, it wasn't a touchdown. Obviously it was the game winning field goal. It wasn't a touchdown Obviously it was a game winning field goal But let's talk about what Daniel's done this season 12 touchdowns in the fourth quarter and overtime this season That's the most ever for a rookie in NFL history He had five touchdowns in the last 30 seconds of regulation or overtime Which is two more than any other quarterback since the 1970 NFL merger if you think about what?

What it's like, you know again is aander's fan, any of us just watching football. And that moment where you're like, yeah, this rookie QB is going to come in and he'll probably set them up for the game winning field goal drive, because it's what we've been seeing the majority of the season all year long to have that kind of confidence, like this calming, like, yeah, I'll probably figure this out. Against Tampa's defense, where I think it's important to get to some of those numbers and what this team had been doing in the second half. It's just weird. It's weird to watch a rookie QB and think, yeah, he'll probably just figure

this whole thing out. And he did it again. He completed all three passes on that game winning drive. And then again, the keeper on third and short where he runs it out to his right, dies the first down. So at that point, Tampa's just going to be behind the clock and it's not going to matter. When was it over? I'll do that for all the games. Uh, this game actually wasn't even over with zeros on the game clock because the

kick hit the upright on the right side and then snuck its way through and Washington advances against this Bucks defense where let's remind you it's a defense that had given up only nine points total in its last five second halves. They give up 10 in the fourth quarter last night and now their season is over. Washington, if you want to talk about how tough this was against this Tampa defense, the commanders four straight from first and goal to one they got back to a couple of times, right? They end up going for it. They don't get it. Tampa has the ball a couple of plays later, Baker fumbles the handoff.

And so Washington starts again with great field position and they don't convert until fourth and two, and that's the touchdown. So that's like seven straight times they had stopped him. It looked like Tampa was going to be able to hang on because that defense thing, but it's just really hard to ask any defense to do that. Eight straight times and they had done it seven straight times, but it wasn't enough. Quarterback legacy update possibilities here with this one. Sure, the Baker season and Tampa season, especially offensively, coming down to a field goal, I think this was a really good season from this team.

That was not among the heavy hitters in the NFC. Statistically, I know we covered the offensive stuff, but nobody really thought that they were better than Philadelphia or Minnesota or Detroit. I mean, hell we'll get to Green Bay here, but you get the point. They were not in that group for them to lose a home playoff game. Obviously very disappointing, but not a shock here. Daniels, this is the start potentially of something really special. Teddy Bruski, our guy saying this morning, the best rookie quarterback I've ever seen.

Philadelphia beats Green Bay, 22-10. It could have been Morris or Saquon wanting to run it in. I do want to see a running back at some point, like up three with four and a half minutes left to go, break one free and then slide. And then be like, yep, team first. Like, no, there's, I don't know when it'll happen, but it's going to happen. Somebody's going to do it.

Somebody's going to slide in the most ridiculous way ever. Cause now everybody thinks it's awesome. Anyway, um, say Quans done more than enough this season though. So this is not to be critical of him. So the headline for this one is green Bay awful start awful. And green Bay's defense was incredible in this game. Packers fumbled the opening kickoff three plays later at seven nothing.

Philly 139 into the game. Not great Bob. Hertz got off to a good start. Six of six then missed his next seven throws to finish 13 to 21, 131 yards. Uh, but they didn't really need him to be great. Let's remind everybody here that hurts. It's really his first full game since December 15th. He went out with a concussion against Washington, barely played in that game and didn't play the last couple.

So he hadn't played, this was when this was not a normal lead up to him getting back to playoff action. So yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't good, but they didn't need him. And I think it's, it could be entirely fair. Like, let's see how the next one looks here. Um, but Jordan Love threw three picks. He had the one-on-one shot where Slay made a great interception running step-for-step wicks down the right sideline.

Next possession, Green Bay misses a field goal. Next possession, they throw another interception. We're Philly starting at Green Bay's 45, and they actually held them to a punt. So Green Bay's defense, Cooper, by the way, is going to be a stud for the Packers. They stepped up in ways they needed to answer it constantly because this offense was a mess.

And yes, the receivers, Watson's out, Dobbs goes out, Reed went out at some point. But Jordan Love just was not very good. When was it over? You could say when Goddard beasted, just beat the shit out of Valentine three times on the way to a touchdown. I mean, he hit him on, hit him on the catch, he stiff armed him again, and he stiff armed him a third time on his way into the end zone.

That made it 16 to three. A side note about that play, Xavier McKinney, that shot of him talking to Valentine on the bench, like what happened? Like did you see, he beat the shit out of me. Like what do you want, you now want to scold me and have you have to explain what everybody just saw as if it wasn't embarrassing enough to have this tight end just beat me for 24

yards all the way into the end zone. Now I got it. Not going to answer to you dog. That could have been very good, but it wasn't over at 16 three because like we know with the sport of football, there's always a chance to get back into it because they did get back in this game was 16 10. Green Bay got two possessions after that moment. Um, but it just, it was so many mistakes.

There were just so many mistakes. And it's now a stat. Is this alarming that Philadelphia went two for 11 on third downs? I don't know. It's all forgotten unless Philadelphia loses the next game and people have pointed to like, well, you know, the offense was really good against Green Bay quarterback legacy updates, possibilities hurts nine points for that offense, the game against Tampa last year. You could be cute and say that they didn't score a ton.

But again, if you take away the Barkley touchdown, which they would have had, you know, we're talking about maybe 29 points in this game. You could also point to the fact that in the last two games that Hertz has only run it for about 20 yards per game. But I just don't think we should be able to, I don't think we should be very critical of Hertz from just this game, considering everything that we talked about with him being the protocol for so long. Um, Jordan Love five picks in his last two playoff games.

After a brilliant debut against Dallas last year, but he did throw a pick late too on first down against San Francisco. Granted, there was only like a minute left in that game. So what do we have? We have one really good playoff game from Jordan Love, and we have a comeback against San Francisco where the stat sheet isn't necessarily great. And then you have yesterday's disaster trending down. And the Just For Men Confidence Award, we're going to give it to Jordan Love despite the loss.

When he signaled 840 first down when he was short of the sticks, giving off Kelly Oubre vibes with that one. And just a reminder, Tom Brady was great yesterday. Tom Brady was great in the broadcast when he talked about Jordan love, changing the play and pulling the ball on a run so he could have the one-on-one shot against the backup corner to the right pylon. And that's why the offensive lineman was illegally downfield, did a great job on the Hertz audio at the line of scrimmage where he's like, well, reload, reload means going back

to this or whatever. Then he had a couple of zingers in there. Tom Brady was good at this and he's gonna get better. And that's not just because we're lifelong friends. Next game, Baltimore Pittsburgh. Baltimore wins at 28-14, doubles Mupp, doesn't feel that close. The headline is, this Lamar Steelers stuff is probably over.

I mean, it doesn't mean now that Lamar is going to beat the Steelers forever. He still got a lot of football in front of him. But remember week 11, your boy was lost. I couldn't figure it out. I'm like, they're not going to beat him again this year, right? Like Lamar hasn't played in a lot of these games, the history, and I'll get to it again. And then Pittsburgh beats Lamar and the Ravens again. 1816.

It was a weird kicking game. Remember from Baltimore, a bunch of mistakes, Boswell off the charts. I didn't see a lot of let Boswell cook tweets during this game. So then in week, what do we got here? Week 16, 34-17. It's like, all right, this makes a little bit more sense because after the week 11 loss, Pittsburgh had won seven of the last eight against the Ravens. Granted, four of those losses and one win without Lamar playing for a bunch of different

reasons. You go back on the game log, we covered all this stuff. But I think this game proved two things. Lamar can fix the worst plays and there's a ceiling on what Russell Wilson can do, especially when the defense falls apart. So I think that the Steelers Ravens history stuff, like I think we can, I don't think we go into the next matchup in 2025 and be like the Steelers are just kind of owned these guys for no apparent reason because of these two games.

And I think in the playoff setting, more so than even week 16, you see what the gap is. So, it's stat that tells the story The Steelers now With this game have given up 27.4 points per game in the last five all losses a team that went from 10 and 3 to 10 and 8 Those of us the doubt of the Steelers viability as a real contender coming out of the AFC as a real contender coming out of the AFC.

It, it was more about the quarterback and the fact that the rest of the quarterbacks are all awesome and Russell Wilson at this stage, even though there was a nice little bump and I would defend him, um, if people are saying today that field should have started because that defense was a mess and Pickens missed all of those games. So I've already explained this story, you know, I don't need to continue to defend my guy. Um, but that's why we doubted and we doubted them when they had that defense dialed in and we were doubting them. And this game kind of played out the way I think it was supposed to play stat

that tells the story, um, at halftime, total yards, Baltimore 308, Pittsburgh 60, and 164 rushing yards for the Ravens in the first half, the most for an NFL team in the first half of a playoff game since 2019. When did we know it was over? Maybe when you heard this speech. Your habits are great. Your physical habits, control your mental habits. You know what I'm saying?

That's what we control. Nobody else can take that from us. You know what I'm saying? We control that. Control your mental habits, you know what I'm saying? That's what we control. Nobody else can take that from us. You know what I'm saying? We control that. I can't imagine being a veteran teammate, being like, dude, find somebody else.

It's like when somebody's handing you a pamphlet. Like if you thought you were about your relationship with, like, nope, I'm just trying to get home before kickoff, brother. When was it over over on the field? Probably the justice Hill touchdown second and five scrambles all over the place. 21 nothing. All right. Quarterback legacy updates, possibilities here. I think Russ is ineligible after 13 seasons. He's a hall of Famer.

He's got a super bowl. He was terrific in Seattle. Lamar. We're not doing that. Not for a wild card game. We'll do it next week after Baltimore and Buffalo. However, though, interesting point, this was actually the highest QB rating Lamar Jackson has ever had in a playoff game. Buffalo, Denver, we've got time, just a little. What's the headline? Big 10 media makes same playoff committee joke

all weekend long. When was it over? When the plane landed. Stat. I don't know. Um, Denver was only three of 12 on third and fourth down. Time of possession, 42 to 18. Uh, look, this is a great season from Denver.

It was rookie quarterback. You get the right guy in charge and Peyton. The defense was really good and they had massive, massive cap restrictions. Granted, Bo Nicks was kind of like free, so it offsets all the dead money that they had, but they're heading in the right direction. Nobody thought they were going to win this football game and you're not going to win this football game when Buffalo doesn't make any mistakes. So there you go. It was fun when it was seven nothing Broncos fans admit it, But this happened and then it was 31 straight to close it out.

But I'm not going to... Who's getting mad at Denver today? Who's questioning like, you know, this Denver team? Little hyped, little too hyped. Nobody was doing that. Nobody sane would be doing that. Quarterback legacy update. Bo Nicks not eligible for this.

Josh Allen, C. Lamar will do it next week. All right. Last game, Houston's win against the Chargers. Josh Allen, Cee Lamar, we'll do it next week. All right, last game. Houston's win against the Chargers. The headline for this, are people so pissed at Justin Herbert they can't love CJ Stroud? Yeah, I think is the answer to that one.

Like a lot of you, when this game started, just like Chargers are in control, they're dictating everything, and it's only six nothing. So what the hell's going on here? Stroud had a tough pick early. Herbert matched it with even worse pick to lose all the momentum that they had. And I think the most important thing from this game is that CJ Stroud stayed in the fight, the defensive line stayed in the fight.

The defensive line disrupted really a lot of what the Chargers wanted to do with the Chargers offensive line that, you know, you're not Houston's offensive line is worse than the Chargers is, and it didn't look that way for a day. A stat that is perhaps important. Quarterbacks this year against Houston's defense. Josh Allen went nine of 30. Golf, a season low completion percentage and five interceptions. Is there something there?

So Herbert has the four picks. If we look at the Rossello interception point chart, uh, three is the worst. Two is not as bad as three and, and one is that's not really on him. Um, so I assigned Herbert three to one and one. So that's seven inters, yeah, seven interception points out of a possible 12. Winston usually, if he has four picks, it's usually a 12 bagger on my charts here.

And when was it over? Probably the pick six. Final thought here, Robert Griffin III had a tweet that said the national media better hold Justin Herbert accountable for his playoff performances like they do Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott. I agree with that. And it's about time we start ripping Bo Nicks too. Wild card weekend.

We got one more game, uh, but joining us down from NBC sports and of course his podcast unbuttoned and PFT Live. It is Chris Simms. It's been a while, man. Good to catch up. How are you? I'm doing good, man. It has been a while. It's good to catch up with you. I've always, I've always followed you. I feel like I haven't run into you or seen you as much anymore. You know, you're a West coaster now, you know, I'm on that East coast buying stuff. So I just don't see you as much, but always good to catch up with you, right? Yeah, I stopped getting invited to some of that NFL gala stuff. So I was in the mix for

that some of those early years and I would, I would run India, but, um, I don't, I don't stick around as much now in the Superbowl weeks. I try to, I hear you. It's tough. You gotta, it's a, it's a calculated decision. I got to pick and choose. Like I saw you last year, right? I believe I saw you in the hotel maybe the night before the Super Bowl or maybe it was the Friday night before that. I saw you there. I stayed around for the Vegas Super Bowl this year though. No, I'm going home.

I'm watching it on the couch. I just, I can't do it every year all the time. No, look, it's a long run, especially back in the day when we used to do like eight days down there. All right, so I wanna start, because I went back this morning and watched your draft reaction to Jaden Daniels, okay? Don't worry, don't worry.

What I thought was really interesting, because I wanna start with him, because that was the best game, and it continues this magical rookie season, where you start thinking, what's possible, because this franchise completely turned around. Let me just ask it this way. Your perceptions of Jayden before you did the film work and then ultimately

like what, what kind of convinced you that this, I don't even know that we thought any of this was possible, but what made you like him? Cause it was very clear based on the way you had talked about him while the pick was made, that there was a shift once you had done the work. Yeah, he I liked him a lot. Right. I said I had Caleb Williams in front of him, but I had said many a times in the process, I might even said it on the video, like most years, Jayden Daniels was the number one pick in the draft. He was that special. And I think when I went into it, I went into the evaluation process going, wait, I know

the guy's a super good athlete. Obviously he won the Heisman, you know, but how strong is his arm? I knew he had two awesome receivers there. How much of it was them? How much of it is him? And then I think the other aspect was like, man, he's really skinny. Can he take a hit in the NFL? Are we sure that's going to happen? I think those other aspect was like, man, he's really skinny. Can he take a hit in the NFL? Are we sure that's going to happen?

I think those were my early concerns. Then you watch the film and you go, damn, okay, he can make every throw. Wow, his mechanics and the way he throws the ball are very repeatable. As far as that, he's consistent with them. Usually when you look at really high level, accurate, good throwers, they can emulate their motion perfectly time after time after time and become a machine. You know that, shooting the basketball, throwing a football, whatever it may be.

And then you start to get into, wait, this isn't some guy that just looks to run. He wants to play in the pocket. He wants to dice you up with his right arm and what he sees vision wise down the field. And then you get into the running and oh wow, when he does run, whoa, it's special. He runs like an NFL wide receiver. And then you saw some of the, hey, he's a little more physical and stronger than I thought

he was. Now, I still thought that would be an issue in the NFL and that's probably still the number one thing that surprised me. Like you saw last night, he has runs where he just breaks tackles. He bounces off people and gets extra yards, let alone he can hang in the pocket and take, you know, people hitting on him as he's throwing the ball. I think those are the things that just made me start to go, wow. And, you know, after evaluating them.

So whenever I, and again, I do it from a limited amount of understanding, which I just think is important to remind somebody like you to play the position and everything, but there's certain things that I'll look for. I forget who was recently I was talking to, where I look at play calling to kind of tell me how a staff feels about their quarterback. I always think that's the best indicator. It's like, well, if this is what they trust him with or don't trust him with, that can confirm or refute some of the preconceived notions I have about a quarterback's ability. What did you see with what Cliff has done this year,

maybe even specific to last night, because he had to move the ball down. I mean, look, it's a playoff game, so it's not like they were gonna be conservative with the whole thing, but what do you see with some of the approach with Kingsbury of what they trust him with that tells you what we should think about Jaden,

not just for this year, but the rest of his career. Well, I think that's the amazing thing. They trust him with everything, right? I mean, that's like he's a rookie quarterback. And you know, most times when we got into the playoffs, the rookie quarterbacks or get late in the year, hey, they're, they're still managing them a little bit. Hey, let's be careful here. Let's not put them in a tough situation, right?

Let's let's limit some of our play calls and make things simpler. It's the opposite from what history has told us. They're a little bit like, hey, it's a big moment. Let's put it on his shoulders. He'll carry us. He'll do it. And then he plays like this extremely mature brand of football.

And I think this is the thing that shocks me more than anything is one is one of the advantages he has is he ran this system that Cliff Kingsbury runs in college a little bit. So there's great knowledge of that. But I think it's the fact that Cliff Kingsbury has obviously seen a guy that he can trust and a guy that can mentally take in a lot of offense to where he could just give them everything. And it's just go ahead. And I think the part that I look at it to where I think

You know, I don't know if Kingsbury saw this in training camp or if he earned this right early in the year But how many drives again last night 17 plays 92 yard drive, right? 10 plays 66 yard drive they're kind of a ball control passing offense They kind of trust him to five yards here, four yards here, five yards here. Oh, it's fourth and one. Well, maybe we'll run them. Maybe we'll throw it. Maybe he'll scramble.

I don't know. But I think that's the thing that I'm more amazed by. Usually young quarterbacks when they have to go on 10 and 12 and 14 play drives. You know this, they make mistakes. They fumble, they throw a stupid interception. They make a dumb mistake. They call the game like he's in year seven and he's been doing this for a long time at a high level and they have no fear of all of that. And I think that really pops out to me when I watch them

play. I have a Philly question, but I want to start with Jordan Love. What happened yesterday? Yeah. Jordan Love has been, if you watch my podcast, Chris Sims Up Button, I've been talking a little bit. He's not been himself the whole year. One of the things I've said about the Packers is they're going to the playoffs, they're dangerous because they have a really talented football team, but they're going to the playoffs and this tells you how good their team is.

Their quarterback kind of played B minus ball the whole year. And I do think, hey, he's young. We still got to remember that. It's not a ton of playing time and experience. The second thing I do think is the injuries from week one To really until last week as we saw he didn't practice last Wednesday There was too many weeks where he didn't get to practice or he got to just do the walkthrough on

Saturday and then tried to play in the game even though he wasn't a hundred percent So he certainly had an off year. He didn't see the field Well, and like you saw yesterday, there was just plays and there's throws throughout the year where you go, he's too good. He's too talented to miss that throw right there or be that off target. So they never really got him going in that flow this year. And it's disappointing because their talent to me, they're one of the few teams that's up there with the top teams in football as far as talent's concerned. And then they could run the ball, but the quarterback in the passing offense

just never totally meshed in full totality this year, like we saw at the end of last year. And yesterday, yeah, you saw it. They couldn't dominate with the run game and they had to rely on the pass game to beat Philadelphia. And they're just not good enough in that department right now at the end of this season. I mean, we can point to Watson being out and then Jobs goes down and then Reed gets a crack in the arm. But, you know, I felt like the Minnesota game, either one, you can pick either one of them. But the building towards the end of the year and feeling like they had a chance to get that one. Like that, my concerns about Love, for whatever he was this year, like I just, I'm not going to go into next season

being like, well, they have a real question of quarterback there. I need to see like more bad games before I would start questioning like the long-term viability. Yeah. I would agree. But yesterday, even with the receiver injuries,

it just felt off. And you know, it's an awful start. I mean, there's another part of it too that I kind of talk about there in a little bit in the open, because once Green Bay lost to Minnesota, and then you have Detroit beat Minnesota in a game that I certainly didn't think was going to happen with all the Detroit's injuries, it was almost like I was searching for another NFC team instead

of Detroit, which seems unfair. So then it's like Philadelphia. So this is really a, based on our expectation that Philadelphia could rep the NFC, but. Green Bay's defense was fantastic. Exactly. The circumstances. Right.

Was, was it anything you thought they were doing to Jalen Hurst? Were they, were they taking something away from him that felt like despite the win, it wasn't exactly the game you'd want from him? Yeah, they're creative on the defensive side of the ball. You said a lot of right things. I mean, first off, I'm with you. I'm not going to the next off season thinking Jordan Love,

oh no, I'm concerned about that. He was off this year. He did some dumb things. He missed some balls, the injuries, the injuries of receiver. That I think is something they will have to address. So I'm with you there 100%, right? He needs to throw the ball with more authority. Sometimes if you watch Jordan Love too, it's off the back foot. It's always like a flick

of the wrist. It's too much instead of like, Hey, let's drive the ball and get our whole body into it. Like you, like you see, you know, the other top quarterbacks do a lot of the, a lot of the time he'll get that his talents real I think with the Eagles Something I I'm a big Eagles believer first off. I think the Eagles are the best team in football I I am I have picked them when the playoffs started. I said the Eagles are gonna win the Super Bowl We'll see now yesterday like to you're saying didn't give me make me feel real warm and cozy But I do think you have to take in the aspect of like, Hey, that's a pretty good

Green Bay defense, just like we were just saying, Green Bay's talent is up there. As far as their full football team with the lions, the Eagles, the chiefs, the bills, the Ravens, they're that quality of a football team. As far as offensive defense, a line secondary, tight end play, all of that. Right. So that, that was not an easy matchup for Philadelphia. That's the first thing. They are pretty creative on the defensive side of the ball

with Green Bay and Jeff Hapley and what they did, what they do. They looked like they did not give the Philadelphia Eagles a lot of one-on-one opportunities. And that'd be one thing that, that's what Philly, their formula is very simple. And my biggest concern about Philly, Ryan, is that they're very simple on offense altogether.

It's one of my themes of my podcast this year is that Philly doesn't do much. They go, we're going to run the ball. You know, we're going to run the ball. They only have about two run plays and they just go, screw you. We're better than you. And then when you over do that and they start to get favorable matchups on the outside, you watch Philadelphia, then it's just, whoa, throw it up to AJ Brown.

Boom, throw it up to Devontae Smith. Oh, hit him on a slant against one-on-one. Now they run after the catch and do that. So it's not incredibly complicated to break down Philadelphia and what they do in the passing game. And then you couple that with, they haven't played the last few weeks.

Jalen Hurts hasn't played in a few weeks. Thursday was the first day he practiced, right, in a long time. I think they were a little rusty. And I also do think they gotta make a little more of a concerted effort to get their stars to ball. AJ and Devontae Smith early in the game, they're a little cocky at times.

And they just go, we're so good. The ball get to everybody, no worries about it. Not in the game, they're a little cocky at times and they just go, we're so good, the ball get to everybody, no worries about it. Not in the playoffs. Sometimes you got to force it and start that momentum and get a little false momentum for your football team so they can get rolling. Yeah. And I brought that up too, as I was going through the hurt stuff, the beginning, like if this was a very unusual lead up to all of this, but the reason why we're

going to be, you know, it's, it's very simple. It's why I wouldn't spend a lot of time beating up on Denver today because my expectations were fairly limited Whereas Philadelphia like I'm wondering if they can win a Super Bowl. So you're gonna be a little bit harsher with it That's a hundred percent. Right. Let's go. Let's look at Pittsburgh Do you think they made a mistake going from Fields to Wilson ultimately? I Will say when they first did it, I did not think they would. I thought, Hey, Justin Fields, the way he runs the football, they want to play through their defense and chew up clock like it makes sense.

But I think when it's all said and done, no, I think they did the right thing. I do. I think Russell Wilson's a better thrower than Justin Fields. I think he gave their team maybe a little bit more belief in just the fact that, Hey, he's been there. He's done that. He's been in some big football games. But when that's all said and done, do I think Russell Wilson's a long-term answer?

Do I think he's gonna be the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers next year? No, I don't. I think we saw the last game of Russell Wilson. Maybe he's a backup there, but I don't expect him to be the guy going forward and being the man that carries the franchise I I don't think that the Steelers have a number of things to mean that they have to work on and address in the Offseason on their roster. I know everyone wants to blame Mike Tomlin. He just coaches the team and Pittsburgh

They have a pecking order the front office gets the players and to me the players Including Russell Wilson are just not not good enough in some positions for us to put them in the upper echelon of teams in the NFL that we're talking about here. Yeah, I'm with you. I did not think it was a mistake. Clearly, they felt like there was elements of the offense that they weren't maximizing. But really, this team fell apart because of their defense.

I don't know how anyone can look at the numbers. That was something scoring defense wise, you're like, all right, well, if they keep playing like this, maybe they can manage them through, but none of us really thought they were coming out of the AFC compared to these other quarterbacks. It's disappointing, but it's disappointing in what way? You didn't get one upset if the other team didn't punch it. I think that's what it is, right. Right, right, the last few years we've looked at it

and I've been like, with Pittsburgh, I've openly said, I don't want to see them in the playoffs because they're one and done. A few weeks ago, I was like, wow, Pittsburgh might actually be able to win a few games in the playoffs and then of course they lose forward and the regular season, you're kind of like, ah, looks like it's one and done.

And here's like what I'll say to you. And I think you're agreeing with me a little bit. Like, all right, your game planning for Pittsburgh's offense. I talked to coaches around football all the time. Like nobody's scared of anybody on Pittsburgh. George Pickens is a good player, but it's not to the point where teams are like, Oh man, if we don't double team him, we can't ever win the football game. And then what, I mean, then what are you worried about after that?

I mean, maybe Friar Moot down the middle over 10 yards. What Najee Harris lowering his, lowering his pads for a four yard run. And then on the defensive side of the ball, I would echo those same sentiments. After you get after TJ Watt and Cam Hayward, you're not like, Oh no, they post so many problems with us everywhere around the defense. No, they have, they're almost at a point where they're kind of meddling into, we just get in the playoffs. They might need to do something drastic with the roster, take a step back so they can get

two or three steps forward instead of this constant like we just get in the playoffs and we're relevant, but we don't really have a chance to win the Superbowl. I feel like they put band-aids over their roster for a long time. And at some point they got to do something drastic. Like I'm saying. Yeah. I have kind of done a full circle moment with Mike Tomlin where, you know, the beginning it's incredible. And then there'd be certain times again, it was, it was probably more Patriots based because I was so close to it at the time

where I felt like they would come out with a coverage and then it just, that would be as the plan. Yeah, right, right. You would just be like, well, this, you're just gonna let Brady know what you're gonna do. Yeah, he's just gonna tear you apart. All four of the players. Right, right.

And so, there was hints of that, by the way, in that game against Baltimore where it's like, so the mesh point is attack Henry the entire time and you don't think Lamar's gonna figure this out. Right, shocking. Shocking. I mean, TJ had a hit on Henry that was unbelievable if Henry had still had the football.

Right. So there was moments where I was coming back up but then I think about some of the stuff that Tomlin has done here and how often he's gotten to the playoffs and some of the quarterback struggles that they've had where I go, okay, well the overall is still a really good grade. I'm putting you here on this.

I'm putting you on the spot here a little bit, but when you think about coaches that are more willing to adapt in game versus coaches that game plan the entire week and then stick to it, no matter how it's playing out, like, like who are the guys you think are perhaps more adaptable versus the guys that you think are a little stubborn. Yeah, okay. All right. I mean, I think adaptable like I always just some offensive ones right away. I always am like hey Sean McVeigh. He's going to go in at halftime and

he's going to crack the code and go this is what they're doing. We got to figure it out. We're going to start going to this place here and all of a sudden you'll go man. They didn't do anything in the first or second quarter and all all of a sudden you're like, what, this is a different team. Kevin O'Connell certainly has a little bit of that as well, where he can, he can go, oh wait, they're playing us this way. Let me adjust and go from there. That would be one Ben Johnson and the lions, they have that as well.

I think a lot of the offensive play callers that way, as far as the special ones are concerned can do that. You know, defensively, Tomlin can do that at times, right? I thought they were a little late to adjust the other day. Like you said, like, okay, hey, Lamar's gonna run the ball here today. You're not gonna be right,

and you can't defend this defense and go, oh, we're gonna be in the right gap on every play. Like, tell me how you're gonna be able to do some of that stuff when it's like, hey, whoa, one receiver goes this way. He fakes it to Derek Henry, and then two Polars go the other way with Lamar Jackson. Like, you're going to be short of people in gaps there. You got to force the issue with some of these these awesome offenses sometimes. You got to do some things that are unforeseen that they go, whoa,

I don't know how we block this or whatever. It might be a little risky in the defense, but you got to take some tactical gambles. And I thought they were a little late to do that. They didn't start doing that stuff until the third quarter the other day. And that was a little disappointing. But I think those are the ones that jump out to me as far as the ones that make changes pretty quickly in a football game. And then Steve Spagnola and Andy Reid, how could I not say them? They are as good as it gets in that department, right? And that would be the ones that jump out to me, Brian.

Yeah, cause there's, you know, it was nothing like prime Belichick back in the day. Where whatever was happening at halftime, you were just like, well, they'll figure out a way to be competitive. Like whatever was working in the first, it's just not going to work in the second half because it doesn't mean they're gonna win every single game,

but it's an amazing feeling when you're aware of it or your expectation is that they're gonna figure this thing out. And yeah, I mean, I remember asking Chris Long, who has been on the pod a bunch of different times, I was always fascinated with just further understanding, like, what do you guys talk about at halftime? Like, what do you, and he was funny was funny because he goes honestly it's all on

the back end for us defensively. He's like we wouldn't really even have to sit in on the meetings that would be more coverage based stuff and they just tell us up front like keep doing what you're doing. Yeah. Do you have a lean on Buffalo Baltimore here? Because, you know, Lamar standard, which I feel like the criticism is totally valid as much as we all love them, as much as I would pick him to be my MVP this season, jump in on that wherever you want to, but you know, what's going to happen like the Pittsburgh game is not the standard here, the Buffalo game. And unfortunately, like even if Lamar had something great statistically, there's going to be people coming on Monday saying, oh, it didn't happen again.

Statistically, he hasn't been as good as Josh Allen in the playoffs. There's no debate when you put it side by side. No, that's, exactly. So I don't understand how that one kind of got cranked up last year. Well, I'm with you there. It does, I'm glad you're bringing this up.

I actually brought this up before today because Josh Allen gets talked about like he's the worst playoff quarterback I've ever seen. And I wanna go, his statistics are like the greatest of all time. Like, what are you talking about? Just because his team can't beat one of the greatest teams we've ever seen in history, the Chiefs, right? There hasn't, other than the bangles game where the bangles went into Buffalo a few years ago and beat them 27 to 10. That was really the only stinker Josh Allen and the bills have, have late in

the playoffs. And I would tell you that I don't think they were as good as some of the years of the teams they lost to. So like, that's not crazy. Lamar Jackson, on the other hand, yes, this is the last part of his like hall of fame resume is he's got to win some of these. And I would say with Lamar Jackson, I would go his super bowl, his playoff losses are against teams that his team was

better. They shouldn't have lost the game. So yeah, they both have some of them to chiefs last year. I mean, the chiefs almost don't count. Like the rule has changed. I got you. I hear you. But yet if there's a year where you're 14 and three, you're the one seed, right? They're at home. But I know what you mean. I'm with you. Totally. The chiefs are different. It's like the Patriots like you were talking about. Little different animal than everybody else, 100%. But yeah, I don't like the narratives around a lot of it.

Both are unbelievable first ballot Hall of Famer type players. They're special. We haven't seen anything like them. But yeah, Lamar, to get to where he wants to go and be in that top tier of all time quarterbacks, yeah, Lamar to get to where he wants to go and be in that, you know, top tier of all time quarterbacks, he's going to have to get to a Superbowl, win some playoff games.

Josh Allen's in the same boat. Now I think Josh Allen, like I said, in the criticism him in the playoffs is ridiculous. His supporting cast has not been that great since he's been there. This is the best supporting cast he's had on the offensive side of the ball. You saw yesterday, they're O-line. If you want to play past the on the offensive side of the ball. You saw yesterday there O line. If you want to play past events, they can run the ball on you. Of course he can run the ball.

They got two pretty good tight ends. They're receivers. None of them might not be a superstar, but they're all damn good and can do some stuff. And then, you know, of course we know Baltimore's defense is not super great. It's been a lot better, but I do think a lot of pressure is going to be on Buffalo's offense to win this game because what I do get scared about is Buffalo's defense. Buffalo's defense is certainly the weakest unit in this game and when they play teams that are big offensive lines

that can run the ball on them, it really puts them in a bind and that's what I worry about in this one that they're gonna have to commit so much to stop Derek Henry and Lamar in the run game That it's just gonna leave huge windows in the pass game and we see the Ravens do that to teams, you know quite a bit Yeah, I love that Shakir stat. I had no idea they basically during the broadcast They were like no one's gonna know this but Jamar Chase was number one in the NFL and yards after the catch. It's an absurd number It's almost 800 yards, but Shakir is number two. Yeah.

Yeah. 597, which is still crazy. That chase is like 200 yards ahead of Shakira's at number two. Do we do a little Justin Herbert here? Sure. Sure. Might as well. If we're talking about quarterbacks,

that guy get off some playoff struggles. I think he's going to have a big bullseye on him here until he squashes some of this stuff going forward. Well, as I say in the open, the first game he was brilliant, but they blow a 27-0 lead. And there you go. That was two years ago. This game, it nothing's more frustrating than blowing a 27 to nothing lead in the playoffs. So let's just start there. But the way it was playing out in that football sense of like those moments or

where you feel like, okay, this team's in control and when is the swing going to happen? Uh, that's an ugly loss. That's a really ugly loss for the chargers. Right. Like I kind of joked, like the Chargers stopped chartering this year, right? They've, they've not beaten themselves, done stupid shit, right? None of that. Well, not until Saturday, they became the Chargers Chargers again. I mean, they controlled the early part of the football game.

The fact that they were only up six, nothing was one of those where you're like, damn, they're kind of kicking the crap out of Houston. They're only up six, nothing. Oh man. You know, when, uh-oh, now they're going to have to hang on. But blown opportunities, whether it was Will Disley dropping a wide open pass or not putting his pads down to get a first down and then they got stopped on the third one, then they get a turnover and Justin Herbert tries to throw the ball on the run totally across the field to the other side. He's laid. He doesn't throw it far enough. Just dumb mistakes, a hundred percent.

And yeah, that's disappointing. I mean, they got their ass whooped. Let's just be real as far as when the game continued, their old line got totally dominated. They couldn't run the football, but yeah, they blew opportunities early on in the football game to change the dynamics of the game and put Houston in a position where they might have to change the way they wanted to play. And they blew that and slowly but surely Houston hung in there.

Their defense made a lot of plays. They got a lot of playmakers on defense. Their issue in Houston is, and I like what they did on Saturday, Ryan, the short passing game. I've been begging them to do three step drop because you know their pass protection sucks. Yet they run play action pass and wait for these long developing pass plays to, to get open downfield. That doesn't make sense. Pass protection sucks, but we want long developing pass plays. Right.

So I thought they made the right adjustments there, but yeah, man, the Chargers, Justin Herbert, he's going to have this stigma around him until he proves otherwise here in the future. I think I regret not starting with Stroud just because I'm getting a bit into like, because the team's eliminated, I'm sort of starting with their story here first. Yeah, it's all good.

Because I'm with, like when you think about the resources and the personnel with both offensive lines, there's no way that the Chargers offensive line should look worse than the Texans offensive line. And you're right about the playmakers. I mean, we all know Stingley's insane at corner and this was the rep on him coming out. He has backed it up.

Lassiter has the big play. Al Shayer who I, every week you watch the Texans, he feels like he pops up. You get Anderson. So you just. To Neil Hunter. Yeah. Like you're watching them wreck everything that the Chargers is doing.

The game is entirely shifted. But when it comes specific to Stroud, because there was a side by side of his rookie year and then this year. And when something's new, when you think about it, it's kind of like the Jaden stuff right now of like what's possible, right? You get so excited when it's brand new

and you think of Stroud, you're like, is this, is this possible? And then the stats take a bit of aoud, you're like, is this possible? And then the stats take a bit of a dip. My thing with him is that there's still that third nine out when you need it to the sideline where it's like, it's right where it needs to be. No doubt about it. That's nasty.

So like if I think about Lamar on the touchdown to Justin Hill to end the first half, or Justice Hill. Right. I don't know why I call him Justin. Allen figuring out everything, the Detroit play where he gets flushed out, avoids the sack to his right during the regular season, okay? Mahomes, we just basically every week with Mahomes. Where is Stroud for you on fixing these disaster dropbacks? Right, right, this is like, he's not as athletic

as some of the guys you talked about. This is something I've broken down a lot. They need to do a better job of, they let the center call the past protections, right? That's one of their issues there to me. And schematically, people have exposed the way they protect and their scheme itself. Let alone when you let the center do it all the time, and this is where, again, Lamar

Jackson, Josh Allen, Burrow, Mahomes, they're all over, hey, Mike 52, and then they know where all their problems are after that. CJ Stroud has been taught because this is the way they run offense there, hey, just trust the center, he'll figure it out. And that's a tough way to play quarterback, especially when you don't protect and teams start to blitz you and you're going, well, the coach told me to just trust the center all week, but I don't know, there's four guys coming over there. Are we sure we got them picked up?

So I think they got to make the next phase of letting him take total control of the offense, like you used to see Tom Brady do, you know, oh, no, hey, hey, scratch 54. Let's go Ringo 52 over here and gets everybody on the same page. And of course, the guy running the damn, you know, ship, he's got to know exactly what's going on. So I don't love that aspect. And then like to your point, you know, and you heard me say the play action passes, the long developing passes when you don't protect in the middle of your offensive line,

that makes no sense. But like people have gotten on CJ Stroud and this is where I think you're totally right. I'll go like I watch film of CJ Stroud. I don't go, oh man, I mean, he's missing throws and plays everywhere. I look at it and go, shit, he's just surviving. Oh crap. He got out of the way there. Oh, I mean, the guy was barely open or like covered really well

Oh, we put it in a spot maybe where his his guy could get it or nobody things haven't worked. Well Institutionally there. I'm still a big believer in CJ Stroud No doubt about it And then you cross they have the injuries a wide receiver and none of that's been helpful as far as he's concerned this year. That's an incredible win considering just the tone of that game to start. But you're right, at six nothing you're going, is something, is this gonna be just one of those weird,

but then it was just a blowout and I think the first throw by Herbert into double coverage, I mean you just can't, you can't make that throw. No. The lad throw, you could argue it's a little high for him. The third interception's not on him. Yeah, right. But the lad throw, like it's a six yard hitch route.

You can't throw the ball like three feet over his head there. And then you're ready to get the. It's not like you're missing. It's not like you're missing. Exactly, like lad's got like a 40 inch vertical. It's not like he's some un-athletic like, you know, idiot either. No, but I'm just saying like, you know, he's, he's not as big of a,

Oh yeah. It's not Quentin Johnson or some huge guy. Right. You want to put it right here and let him run and do that. And the first interception, like you said, right off the heels of a turnover, right? To make that decision and try to fit that ball on the other side. That was bad. He played bad football and he was off his game, certainly played his worst game of the year. That's the kind of throw too where you just know, he's like, there's no way he thinks Laster's making, like getting inside of that.

He's, you know, like there's certain interceptions where I'll see, or at least I'll feel like, okay, this is what he thought. And you have to imagine when he's looking at the tablet, he's like, how the hell did he get, you know, how did, but he gets double, like you can't, especially with the momentum and everything that's happening. Exactly.

All right, here's, I have a couple things here. I don't even like this one, so you can just jump all over me. The Bo Nicks story for what it is this year is incredible for the Broncos, all right? And they're not winning that game in Buffalo, especially if Buffalo's not going to make any mistakes. Right.

It's just not going to happen. And this front for Denver that I think is again, one of the most underrated groups all season long, even when you have a couple of plays, like when things break down, it's still not going to matter against Josh Allen, like he's still going to burn you enough over the course of the game, right? I just don't know that you could just disrupt him for, you know, however many plays you're running on offense to dictate the game. So you know, mistakes on the road, the whole thing hit the first touchdown.

It's just not going to happen unless Buffalo just starts hurting themselves a little bit there. But the ceiling for Bo Nicks, this is going to seem so unfair to Denver. That's all right. Did the Broncos replace Russell Wilson with a cheaper Russell Wilson? No, no, they did not. Do you understand what I mean there by ceiling though? I hear you. I hear you.

No, I think Bo Nix is a different animal than Russell Wilson. Um, I really liked Bo Nix coming out. Now, listen, like you made the comments earlier, right? And this is actually, he popped in my head when you said this, exactly. Play calling tells you something. Right. And there, there's something true to that.

Certainly I get that, but at Oregon, that's what they do a little bit. You, you see it even again this year, they like to throw screens and kind of control the game and use that as a part of their, almost their extension of their run game, right? I saw enough plays on film from Bo Nicks last year in college, you go, man, he could throw the ball down the field. Right, I think he's got a better overall feel in the pocket

than Russell Wilson, and is gonna be able to play better from the pocket than Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson, for years, wouldn't throw the ball down the middle of the field, and basically just drop back and wait to move and make something happen and make a backyard type throw right there was very little or a few and far between throws on rhythm I think Bo Nicks you're gonna see a guy that's got Drew Brees surgicality in him and then he's got I think even a more explosive arm than Drew Brees did in

his prime let alone like you saw yesterday, he can run the damn ball pretty good too. So I'm a little higher on Bo Nix than you are. I really like his talent and I think he's the perfect guy for Sean Payton because Sean Payton is going to be able to put limitless offense on his shoulders and he'll be able to run the offense still. That's a much fairer answer. And again, it's a working theory in prime Russell Wilson,

Broncos fans would be like, Hey, that's awesome. And I'm not even saying my first year Denver Russell Wilson, but it's more to with some of the play calling stuff feeling like is there a ceiling? And for me to sit here and ask Bo Nix on the road as a rookie to get Denver back into that game against Buffalo, like this just not a very long list of quarterbacks that have been playing for five to 10 years that I would expect to be able to pull that off. So at no point was I

expecting Bo Nicks to be able to do that. And against my original point, I think the red zone stuff, especially when you look at the splits and how effective he was, you know, even the best quarterbacks, you can feel like when that field gets really short. It's tough. It's like, man, I don't like 90% of the throws. I don't even like any of these down here. And I felt like maybe they were being a little protective of them. But again, it's a working theory. All right.

Yeah, and just real quick, it's tough too because they don't run the ball real well. They got Cortland Sutton, who's their one go-to guy down there, but that's about it. So they'll get some receivers this off season. Watch out for them in that standpoint. They won the year. I mean, the lowest salary cap number ever to go to the playoffs rookie

quarterback, you said it. So I think there's a lot of positives there and now they can go out and free agency and add to that roster and see where it goes from there. Yeah. And with Peyton too, you just expect that. Exactly, right. You know, they're gonna open it up even more with him as he moves forward.

All right, this is something that I've heard you talk about. And I don't know if it was on CJ. I think it may have been on Goff, actually, now that I think about it. But the things that you'll notice with how defenses perhaps changed their attack over the course of a season, as they get more film like in season on a quarterback. It's not like golf is brand new here. Um, is there something to that?

Is, is golf the guy that I think I remember you a few, it's more than a few weeks ago, maybe middle of the season where you felt like, okay, defenses are actually doing something with him that's that's different. Like they think they figured something out, even though Detroit ends up being the one's different. They think they've figured something out even though Detroit ends up being the one seed here. It wasn't like scoring was an issue. I don't know if it was me you're thinking of, right?

I'm trying, I think maybe where we got into a few weeks ago was the Chicago game. I'm trying to think of where I've said, hey, one of the things, and I thought, Detroit winning home field advantage was bigger for them than maybe most teams in the playoffs because of the way their defense is, that's so banged up. They can get, you know, a little advantage with their crowd noise and all

that to help out the defense. The other thing I questioned and it was, I think it was the bear game was just that, Hey, like Jared golf outside in the elements has been an issue through his career. And he squashed that, that day. But like, Hey, with him specifically, you know, where he's going to be. He's going to be in the pocket. He doesn't get outside the pocket. He hangs in there.

He's tough as hell. And the biggest thing with them, it's hard to catch on to anything they do because the fucking OC Ben Johnson is the man. I think he's the best OC slash about to be head coach candidate since Shanahan and McVeigh. That's how awesome I think he is. And he just gives you so much offense to where like if you over one overplay one area of their offense, you're going to get screwed somewhere else.

He's going to crack the code on you somewhere else and start to destroy you. And that's what makes Detroit so dangerous is there's really not an aspect of their offense. They can't do something at a high level. And that's why they're dangerous as hell. As you know, a shift here as we close. Yeah, let's talk Texas. Yeah, don't don's talk Texas. Yeah. Don't don't talk Texas. Come on.

What is your relationship to the quarterbacks there? I'm not really much of all right. I mean, I got a relationship with the program. So I was supposed to go to the game and my flight got canceled because of the weather in Dallas. So I didn't get to go, but I don't know any of them. I just know from what I've heard, I've never met Arch Manning. I've never met Quinn yours. So, you know, I just, I just know what I see and what I hear. Okay. All right.

That that's a good start because you never know. Like if, if I had no offense, but like in the past with somebody else, it might be like, yeah, he works out of my house. Like some people say. Yeah, right, right, yeah, yeah. My family works with him throwing the football all the time. Right, yeah, exactly. Like, okay, this will be pretty clear and unbiased.

Let's go. You understand this dynamic maybe better than anybody to be Arch Manning and to have that name. And then you were, like, at no point did I think, hey, they should bench you or is even though there's just a lot of stuff with you or is I haven't really liked. And I think it was a culmination of events.

And I don't know this oblique injury apparently is the most like devastating oblique injury. You know, look, I just think there's some stuff with you or is where when he's dropping back, you're like, what's the processing speed? Like, I know you're calm. And I know everybody loves you when you're calm and it's working out. It's like, oh, he's dropping back, you're like, what's the processing speed? Like, I know you're calm and I know, I know everybody loves you when you're calm and it's working out, he's like, oh, he's so poised and it's like, man, sometimes

you're a little too poised and you have, you have this thing waiting around that everybody's hyped about. So again, I'll say it for the audience, not for you at no point during that game. Did I think, Hey, no, it'd be totally fair and reasonable. Put Arch Manning in the game here to ask him to go ahead and get you to the national championship game. But how do you see the dynamic one that again, you understand better than almost anybody? Yeah, it's and I'm glad you're saying that because you're right. You know, Quinn Ewers did do a lot of good things. He got them there. That'd be a tough spot to throw Arch Manning in. I mean, that'd be almost unfair to him to do that. So you ride

yours and he has been pretty damn good in a lot of good moments, certainly. But like you said, frustrated too, right? Yeah. Whether it's the processing speed, you know, lack of inability to make any plays really off schedule. And then for a guy that I think has a good arm, he throws the change up or the lob ball just way too much where you go, man, drive that ball and that's gonna be a 20 yard completion. Instead of hangs in the air and gets knocked down. There's too much of that. Like Quinn, yours great career at the University of Texas,

but it's over, it's over. It's Arch Manning show from here on out. I would be shocked if it's anything but that. I know from people talking to them in the, in the program and all that they couldn't be more excited about Arch Manning. Arch Manning, his mind, his physical ability. I think they feel like their offense will go to another level with Arch Manning at the helm there, let alone he's got a way with the guys.

That was the first thing that I was told about Arch Manning from some of my Texas friends. Like, hey, the guys love Arch Manning. Not that they like dislike Quinn Newers, but they're just Arch Manning's the guy. The fact that he's a Manning and he's so humble and he works hard and, you know, sounds like he's got a good personality and all that, it rubbed off on the whole team. And I think the whole organization of Texas football is extremely excited to get the arch manning era underway. That's Chris Sims. You can check him out PFT live, of course, NBC football night in America

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We've got Kyle and Saruti, no Wargon. Saruti's our technical director today for the show. Has anybody got a Wargon update on the marathon? I think by his tone, we knew we weren't getting shit from him. I think I respect it. I gotta be honest with you. He's a hundred percent Disney. He's not even 1% Spotify today.

Good for him. Yeah. Your thing. To be entirely transparent. There's zero chance. Any of us felt close enough to him to reach out and ask how he did. Totally. That is an actor.

Did you guys send him a text? I'm kind of a leave people alone on their vacations guy. You know, I wouldn't text Kyle, I don't think. And I feel like Kyle and I have a good relationship. I don't even know if I'd text you. I just kind of leave people alone. So yes, you're right. But also I don't think that's in our nature.

I think it's a little weird not one of us feels close enough to the guy on the show. We all assumed he was married until like Friday, right? We all just assumed he was married. We brought it up. He's like, yeah, not married yet. I knew he wasn't married. I didn't know that.

I thought he worked at ESPN. Yep. Yeah. We don't know anything about him. Really. Every time we get a little bit, it's a real gold nugget every time we get a little info. So I kind of like it this way. I don't hate it, but I'm just saying

at no point did any of us, even for the show's sake or just for this moment right now go, Hey, I wonder how he did in the marathon. Like he was in the marathon. Like he was talking it up. He was excited. Like you thought about, you thought about texting him. I just thought about, Oh, Hey, he's running the marathon.

Like I wonder how it went. I'll wait for Wednesday. We'll talk about it. I will talk about on the pod then. You don't think if Kyle was off today and was running a marathon, one of us, you don't think any of us would text him? Morgan wouldn't, but. I don't know.

Well, we're never going to have to find out. So don't worry. Maybe I would just out of like pure, like, are you okay? Text me when I met my first golf pro am that'll be good. We'll do. There you go. That's going to be fun. All right. We had a lot of people chime in on the last thing on Friday night, which was a different... Thanks for everybody checking that pod out, by the way. But, well, I mean, we knew when we were reading it as it developed, it was just sort of funny,

and it didn't make a lot of sense, but it is a bit. And I guess it's a guy from, I guess it's a gazpacho soup guy from, I Think You Should Leave. Okay. Who's awesome in that role. He's like, do you have a nutcracker?

Remember that? She's like, eat some of your walnuts. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, okay. Yeah. And they, they're playing like, it's not charades, but they're just trying to name celebrities and he just keeps naming. Anyway, this me recapping the bit is doing worse than any possible bit could ever do. So we'll keep it moving. But yeah, I mean, I think we knew it was kind of fake,

but I think I appreciated how weird it was as we were going through it. I gotta be honest. I wish it was like cooler than what it is. Like I don't, I don't, I have a bunch of people tweeted at us. I don't know what it is. I don't, I wish I didn't know. Maybe it is really cool. I just don't know what it is. Well, I'll send it to you cause I found it.

And you know what I do appreciate is that people were at least fair enough with that one. They're like, that was a bit obscure, you know, cause it just, anytime that something like that happens, you're like, do you think three dudes know everything about everything? Like that'd be a lot of stuff to have to know and be aware of. And that was one that was off our radar and was far enough off everyone else's radar that the people that did know it were like, Hey, you know what? That's not a terrible mess.

So thank you for being so kind on a Monday. So earlier in the year, uh, all Air Pods stolen but tracked. Checking in from Utah. Average gym stats probably in the 850 pound club in the gym, but training for a 100 mile race in Colorado this summer. What is up with these fucking guys lately? All right. I love it. I love it from you guys, but man. Fortunates who have met each of you on a separate occasion. Saruti at the Ringer NBA Live in Utah. Bought Kyle a beer out bar hopping in Salt Lake, and Ryan at the meet and greet in Manhattan Beach last month. Shout out, legends.

Here's my dilemma. My AirPods went missing out of the console of my car during errands on New Year's Day. I thought maybe I'd misplaced them, but yesterday the AirPods appeared on my Find My app at a house about 20 minutes away from where I live. My first move was that I drove to the house, knocked on the door about 10 times and no one answered. House is normal middle-class town home with non-threatening vehicles in the driveway. That would be something I would immediately look at.

Is it not a truck nut situation? Like, yeah, turn, maybe turn around or maybe not. Yeah. Would a no fear sticker make you, fuck these people or I'm turning around? Yeah, the little kid pissing on something. What's that? Where are we at on that one? That's like, if Calvin's pissing on something, that's like an old guy who doesn't give a shit. And that's a, I'm scared about that. That's dangerous.

You don't see young people with Calvin pissing on the Giants logo. It's always an old guy. Might have a shotgun. You don't know what those guys, yeah, that guy's probably got something. Is there a vanity plate that makes you less worried versus one that would make you turn around? Yeah, of course there is.

Like if it was a Metallica kill em all thing, where it was like somehow the DMV let him put kill em all in some creative way in the plate. I think you turn around. Yeah. Right. That's fair. If the plate said, if the plate said Disney, I'm knocking. Sure. My work on. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I have your iPods. You left them at the live show. Like, I didn't know you lived down the street from me. Yeah, there's a lot you don't know about me.

All right, so the question is, what's my next move? Surely cops wouldn't care about a pair of AirPods, is my assumption, hence the vigilante justice approach here. It's not even the cost of the AirPods at this point, or the hassle to get them back. It's the principle that I know who has them and they're hiding in plain sight. One of my thoughts was to leave a ransom note, then know me 200 by tonight and I'll just turn the case,

or I'll just turn the case over to the police. Ransom note, this guy is, well he's running a hundred mile marathons here. I think you might be the one people should be scared. Ransom is kind of taking a bad ass thing and making it on bad ass though. I don't know. I kind of like it, but I went to your house, but I didn't confront you. Yeah. But what if you left a ransom note that was like, Hey, like,

I'm like this like tech guy and I've like hacked into my thing and I could just listen to all of your conversations. So either give them back to me or I'm going to start uncovering some to all of your conversations. So either give them back to me or I'm gonna start uncovering some uncomfortable secrets about your life. Jesus Christ. That's like the wire where they have the guy think the lie detector test is the copy machine. Yes.

Like would anyone actually believe that already? I don't know, maybe. Probably not. I'm listening in. That's what his license plate is, you know? It depends what he's got. What's in the driveway? All right, so if it's only 200 by tonight

or I'll turn the case over to the police. But that's also a risky approach is they'll know I know and likely won't answer the door again. I'm definitely not afraid confronting the thief face to face. Again, he says, I'm definitely not afraid confronting the thief face to face, but need the door answer for this to happen. Would love any thoughts or feedback, fellas.

All right, he said, you can change my name or you can not. So we could read his name, but we will just do him with solid here. All right, a couple of factors in a story here. I don't know, Kyle, we haven't really heard from you yet. So why don't you just kind of take us where we need to go? I had something similar to this. Sweat pant pockets, you know, stuff just doesn't stay in there great when you're getting in out of cars, especially my Mustangs pretty low.

So one day I dropped my wallet out of my pocket and I had one of those like whatever was a tile. It was like a little card version of it. I drove back there like 30 minutes later after realizing the wallet was gone from the parking lot. And then I was starting to track it and it became pretty clear like it was like probably a homeless guy that had it because he just where it would pop up was like just never like in a place was always outside of a place. And then I was like, is this the kind of guy you will like I could see where he is? Is this the kind of guy that you want to go and see if he'll give you this wallet back?

My thought was no, my thought was no. And I think I made the right choice. But I would think about it. I would get pings when someone else with a tile would walk past this guy and it moved around so I knew it wasn't just like in a garbage can somewhere or something like it was. It was different places always like outside in areas where you'd expect. And I don't know. I think, I think I did the right thing by not like trying to roll up on this guy. Uh, or, or woman and, um, yeah, I don't know. I mean, there have been times when it was like 0.4 miles away and I was out and about him, like, should I just, should I just spin the block on this? No.

And I just didn't, um, at least size them up. You didn't always like curious enough to go see what he looked like. No, I don't think I did. I think, well, I think I had driven past one and I couldn't like, nothing jumped out to me. But I was like, yeah, I didn't check the back alleys there. So I don't, I don't know. Um, with that, I think I just used all the information. I was like, you know what?

Just fucking apply for a new driver's license buddy. Like, okay. Um, with AirPods and you know, it's like, it's a house where there's a guy in there. I don't know. I wish I could say, um, I would have knocked on the door, but you already did that man. So I don't know. Um, I think not get, I give it at least one more not before you start printing

out, uh, red seconds, whatever. That's fair. What if like, how much time do you have? Like, could you stake out outside the house and see my first coming in, coming out, you know, yeah, that's kind out outside the house and see who's coming in, coming out, you know? Yeah, that's kind of it. Like you're already crazy enough. You don't care. You're the one who knocks, dude. You actually said you can use my name after giving us your location. So if you've already knocked on the door, I don't,

other than getting in the way of your training regimen, I don't know what stopped you from parking across the street. If it's a neighborhood that you're not afraid of, if it's a house, then the whole deal and everything going on. Like if you're not, if you were undaunted at this point, then why not just grab a sub and Richard Dreyfus this bitch. Lean that seat back and just kind of hang out. Yeah.

See what goes on. And then you see, here's what I think you should know though. If this is a single family home, before you get real heated, is there a chance there's Greg, the 12 year old, stole your AirPods? Dude, young Kyle in Long Beach Island, you know what I mean? Like, GBS is coming with me,

if you're stupid enough to leave your car in lock. So it could be that guy. And the dad is not one to be fucked with. I don't know. Yeah. So just, you know, they, you could be entering something. Cause here's the other thing I've noticed that that even when somebody's wrong, our internal hatred of being wrong, even when we know we're wrong, will lead to this defense that it'll get turned into, Hey, do you have my AirPods?

And the guy may have stolen your AirPods, but he's so mad that you showed up to his house that he'll start some sort of verbal confrontation of like, how dare you show up to my house? Like he's, if this person is a thief, again, no offense, Kyle, but like the thief's code of it's my fault for having my car unlocked. Yeah. Like, oh yeah, sorry. I know.

My bad. I'm the dick. You're right. You could just do whatever you want. Yeah. Yeah. Totally, totally get it. Do you want to slash my tires while you're at it to teach me a lesson?

Good for you. So, so smart. This will really sharpen me up moving forward. Thank you for stealing from me. Uh, just so you know, like it's something else you have to factor in here is there, there could be a kid out back just rocking out to, you know, who knows what Sabrina Carpenter right now is hot, I think. So you could just be dealing with something, you could be dealing with an

adult who has no idea what you're talking about. So you might want to go in here, even though you're already like potentially staking out the guy and you've already knocked on the door. Maybe you don't want to watch him and then follow him to a target and then be like, Hey bud, how's it going? Here's the deal. Like you guys have my AirPods. But I do kind of like where your mind's at with this.

I had a stolen phone the next morning. It woke up, checked it, knew exactly where it was and was like, all right, I'm packing up and I'm going up there and I'm getting my fucking phone back. And then around a one o'clock or two, I looked at the map again. I started looking at Google street view and I was like, you're not going there for a phone because you can afford it to go by another one because that could get, that might be way more, you know, I just watched pulp fiction again. It was like, you're,

you're not that guy. You're not going up there. And I was like chalk it up to the game. I like where your heads at I like that you're willing to do it But I I had to be real honest with myself and say you're probably not gonna go to this neighborhood to go get your phone It's over Yeah, all the second knock I would just be like hey this is what's going on and not necessarily be all macho about it because I didn't I didn't until halfway through this email rethink you're like yeah what if that was a guy's kid and you know you just you're on this guy's property you know pointing at him I don't know yeah right I mean you could just go hey this could

be a mix-up maybe you grabbed it or whatever and then he can be like I don't know what you're talking about you're like hey it's right here and then it's like well what mix-up is yeah, the mix up is actually that he just stole them out of my car. I cleared that up. Cool. On further review. All right, well, I'm gonna hand this over

to Deputy Smithers. All right. All right, good awareness one here. Roommate thinks it's fine to sit on our couch in sweaty clothes. Good, good, uh, good awareness one here. Roommate thinks it's fine to sit on our couch and sweaty clothes. What's up? 26. I could already guess. Five seven, one 55 played soccer, uh, collegially and, uh, continue to play

low pro semi professionally abroad in the past few years abroad. Yeah. Cause semi pro is usually alert for more organized men's league, which always sounded cool if you were telling somebody that, but the fact that you played overseas and did it, I'm willing to give you, uh, like you can win your entry money back fantasy football. I know people tell us the overseas deal. Yeah. There's like the second division in Finland.

Like they actually paid for a lot of shit. Like the more organized men's league. It's like you can just win everybody's entry fees if you win like a majority of the 10 games you play. No, because I remember like I was on a men's team in Vermont after college. I was like, yeah, you know, we travel a little bit. It's like not really asshole. Like I'm calling myself out. Right? Like 23.

So then I remember when I was playing in this Watertown mass thing and some guys be like, Oh, that guy played some semi-pro. And I'm like, I don't think that means, I think it's pretty much the NBA or the G league at this point guys. That's just a style sheet. Yeah.

All right. Anyway, pick up ball comp, Steve Blake, solid on D, crafting the paint with passing and finishing around the rim and have an average jumper. Anyway, I recently got into a debate with one of my roommates that thinks it's totally fine to sit or lay on our couch in the same clothes he just wore for a workout at the gym or training session at the field.

Training session at the field. So these guys are like a bunch of athletes running around here. To give you some background, my roommate is 23 and also plays soccer competitively. Um, he's a goalie for those that don't play soccer. They're commonly wired a bit differently. Suri, can you back that up? Yeah, that's probably true.

It's a lonely job. All right. So his days are typically filled with a team training indoor sessions at the gym the other day after we both just got back from a 90 minute training session Yeah, these guys sound like I don't even care if it's not even that cool Like the fact that after college you just have goalie training sessions at 23 and then you're traveling for soccer at 26 Do you have a third bedroom? All right, so Get back he decides to lay on our couch with all the clothes socks included from the session 26, do you have a third bedroom? All right. So, uh, get back.

He decides to lay on our couch with all the clothes, socks included from the session we just had. This isn't the first time he's done this. So I finally jokingly passively aggressively said, Oh, so you're a big sit on the couch and your same clothes. You just sweating guy. Sounds almost like word for word. Something I would say to somebody.

Yeah. Which led us to going back and forth on whether or not it's say to somebody. Yeah. Which led us to going back and forth on whether or not it's cool to do. From my perspective, the couch is in our living room, which is a shared space, and that it's not okay to sit on the couch in those clothes when myself, the other roommates, and our guests also sit on the couch.

Not to mention. Ever heard of microbe dude? What the fuck? Yeah, seriously. Not to mention we occasionally host and have friends or family crash on the couch. All I'm asking is that he at least change into a separate pair of clothes before doing that. Not even saying he needs to take a shower, which I feel is a reasonable ask. His argument that it's dumb to change clothes or shower because he typically, typically is

going to the gym later in the day, to which I I reply then lay or sit in your own bed in your Sweaty clothes if you don't want to change He also states there isn't a difference between someone coming into the apartment after sitting on a bus or a public space like a restaurant Because that's just as dirty To me that's a dude math right there To me that's an irrelevant argument because in this hypothetical, there's no way for me to know the state of cleanliness of this person as opposed to where I just, with the guy, where we're both inside sweating or know that he just came back from the gym and is clearly

sweating. All of this to say, I myself am not a clean freak or a germaphobe. I just feel like this is a courteous thing to do with the people you live with. And it's a matter of principle of being a good roommate. I don't think it's too much to ask or is it would love to hear the crew's take on this. Um, I got one. All right. I got one.

Huge fan up the shells. Saruti. Oh, Chelsea. Okay. Not a big Chelsea guy, but it's all right. Okay. I think the answer is here is you just Chelsea guy, but it's all right. Okay. I think the answer is here is you just get something known as Mike's couch sheet.

And as you leave, you just, you just throw it over the couch and be like, listen, we've tried, you're not receptive. You're not reasonable. And it's Mike's couch sheet. And then, you know, like, are you done? I'm going to put the couch sheet away. If you're, if you're good,

just let me know when you're getting ready to change. I think I like that. I also learned at a young age, some people really have ideas of what can and can't go on on the couch. I mean, shoes is a pretty much, I think 99.9% of people are like, no shoes on the couch. But when I was sleeping over at my buddy's house, his mom was like, I was like, sideways. I wasn't like a full lay. There was room. Somebody else wanted to get in there. We were watching a movie or something, and she was like, you know, kind of like sideways. I wasn't like a full lay, you know, there was room, somebody else wanted to get in there. We were like watching a movie or something,

and she was like, so you're just gonna have your oily head on my couch pillows? I'm like, what? She's like, yeah, you know, your head has oils in it. So I was like, oh, some people are on this side of the spectrum where I'm like, can I even? Yeah, I think, I would think so,

but she was really serious about it. And he was like, yeah, sorry, I forgot to tell you. So I know there's a wide spectrum of things. I think this is on the normal side of the spectrum. Like, hey man, could you not like be damp on the couch? Boiling head, huh? Yeah, I mean, I didn't see it. There was no like sheen on my head when I was a kid.

I didn't have one of those heads and I had really short haircuts, but she was just like, you know, stuff comes out of you when you lay on things. All right, I'm sorry. I'll just be on the floor, I guess. But I think this is a reasonable request. Don't be damp on the couch. That's totally fine.

But it sounds like you did that, not receptive, it's not adding up, and I think you do something a little embarrassing that'll also save your couch for when your sister spends the night or whatever. Sorry, Mike can't stop sweating on the couch. I'd probably be the guy who's pretty anal about this stuff. Like that's disgusting. I would sit on the floor. I certainly wouldn't do it at someone else's house. Um, to Kyle story there, but that, that the head thing is total. That's, that's insane. I don't

really know that that woman probably has some, I don't know. I was like 12. You could explain anything to me. I was like, do I going to get this checked out? Did I not know this? Oh my God. Yeah, I think the couch sheet's good. Like, could you do like the old school, you know, just get him like one of those like plastic covers too, and just make it even worse. Like don't even make it comfortable for him. Like this is your spot.

Like if you're going to do this, like. He's just going to sit somewhere else. You're right. You're right. He's 23. Like I know who both of these guys are at 23. If you had told me, Hey, I don't like you coming back from training sessions. Um, all sweaty.

I'd be like, I don't like that. You told me you don't like it. And that would be it. And war would start. And if I were the 26 year old, I would, I would sell the couch and then you would come back and then all of us would suffer and have nowhere to sit. Camping chairs. Just to try to one up.

Yeah. I mean, like you can ask me what I would think now and you're going to get a fairly reasonable response that it's right. Like you shouldn't, there's a different level of, of transportation of whatever funk dudes are given off, like as opposed to just sitting on a, how many people would ride in the bus coming to your house too? You should ask them that follow-up. You get a bunch of Metro people just stopping by. All right.

So like you're playing that, that sort of germaphobe angle on it. Like a dude, full blown workout dripping with sweat right into the cushions and that building up over time, that's a far more dangerous game than just Someone stopping by that was out and about in society So the sweater is wrong here, but I'm just telling you at 23 and I can tell from the tone of where this email Is I don't know if you're dealing with an only child here Maybe the youngest maybe two older sisters and then he is the youngest. So sometimes that even cancels out the only child math of like,

it wasn't that I was the only child. So far the other way. Yeah. It's that. It's like, I have, I have only child tendencies on top of I had two older sisters that baby there's like a 10 year gap in there. So like I could never do anything wrong on top of being spoiled the entire time. So I'm just gonna sit here in my Kappa or my D'Adora gear and just fucking sweat, bro,

and there's nothing you can do about it. What about you order the cheapest bean bag you can on Amazon? It's like, this is Mike's bean bag for... He's not sitting in it. Yeah, that's the problem. Like, you guys can designate a section for him. He's not sitting in it. Bean bag, he's not sitting in it. Like you can, you guys can designate a section for him. He's not sitting in it. Beanbag.

He's not the only real move here is you have to sell the couch and then you have to get folding chairs from aims and set them up for wide and be like, this is, you can sweat in your plastic $10 chair. There you go, man. Nobody wins. Yep. Yeah. Nobody wins. Yep. Yeah.

Nobody wins. You pull the pin, yeah, you pull the pin on the grenade in your hole. All right, I support it. I don't know if I'd be willing to go that far. I feel like I'm a germ guy. I would. I could do it for like months.

I'd be like, oh really? Just what you wanna do? Larry David level commitment to this. Yeah. Next thing you know months. You're like, oh really? This is what you want to do? Larry David level commitment to this. Next thing you know, they're just like, dudes are selling everything in the house, so no one's happy. He finally gets his one cup, one bowl thing to work. It's like communism. But just wasn't tried in the right circumstances.

It gets back to the one plate, one bowl, one knife, one fork, one spoon thing that we tried to do. And then one guy started hoarding the spatulas and he's like, well, that's my spatula. They're like, no, no, no, there's how spatulas. We can't have six fucking spatulas. He's like, well, you guys didn't clean it last time. So now it's my spatula. And you know, next thing you know, somebody was late with their end of the cable bill.

You come back, you're like, why are we watching VHS tapes? Be like, we don't have cable anymore because we couldn't handle it. The planet, just a planet like imploding on itself. I have a quick aside. No. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of germs, had a bat in the house this weekend. Ooh, that'll get you riled up. Middle of the night, middle of the night. You Janobli it. I did not. Uh, I was like honestly kind of terrified. So it was like probably one or two AM. Wife wakes me up. He totally, let me tell the story.

So I was one or two AM wife wakes me up. I was out. Um, and she's like, something's going on, something's in here. And we've had like, the cat likes to catch mice. So we've had that kind of thing, which is like whatever, it's actually good. It's a great do your thing. So that's kind of what I thought it was.

But then you hear like above our bed, this thing just kind of fluttering around, hitting walls and stuff. We've got a second floor bat here or a first floor bat? Second floor bat, came from the attic. Might have got a second floor bat here. Our first floor bat second floor bat came from the ad. Buddy might have a bat problem. Not great. Uh, but it's flying around over my head and I, I'm just like, let's get

under the covers. I don't know if this thing is like dangerous or not. Like I got, I'm under the covers Googling. What do I do when there's a bat in my house? I turned my flashlight on. I'm literally just like peeking out, like just with the flashlight up. And I see it zoom over my head and I'm online. What does Google say? It's like I open a window and just let it fly out, but it was like literally

12 degrees outside I got screens up. I don't know. I haven't taken them off yet. I don't know So it's kind of a mess. So I didn't really know what to do So for a good 10 minutes, we were just under the covers and I was like, what is our move here? Because I do not know I don't know, I'm like, our bats dangerous. Like whatever. And of course you Google that. It's like, you know, the worst things come up. So after like 10 minutes, it flew out of our bedroom

and into a different room and just kind of like rested on the ceiling. So I was like, all right, what do I do? I ended up getting like a trash bucket and just cause it was there for like 10 minutes, not moving, it's like this heat source. So I'm like, I don't know, maybe it went back to hibernating or something.

Popped the freaking gas, pop the trash can over it, slid a piece of cardboard, threw it back outside. And I was like, man, I just crushed that. That was incredible. Like I'm just, you know, like Steve Irwin over here helping everybody out. Call the bat guy the next day is like, yeah, that was stupid.

Should've killed the bat. Like now it's just back in your house. I was like, really? I thought I was doing like a good thing. Like, you know, let it back out, don't kill it. He's like, no, you're done. Should have killed it. Cause now-

The guy told you to kill it. Yep, yep. And he's like, preserve its brain then, cause we can test it for rabies. And I was like, well, how am I supposed to know any of this stuff? Wait, wait, he wanted you to kill it in a way where it can still be studied?

Yeah, and I was like, how do you close it? There you go, so I'll just snap its neck, but just make sure you keep its brain intact. I'm like, I'm not picking the bat up. Yeah, and I was like, how do you close? There you go, so I'll just snap its neck, but just make sure you keep its brain intact. I'm like, I'm not picking the bat up. Yeah, I don't. Wait, wait. You lost me at the brain intact, not you, the guy. I know, that's what he said.

Straight face. Nice job with the garbage can though, because when you said your first thing was, all right, let's get under the covers and figure this out, I thought you were like, all right, we're just gonna close the door, we're gonna besiege that room, and we're just gonna wait it out. Let's start.

That was a possibility for a while. If it didn't leave our bedroom, I don't know. I might still be there, who knows? Nice job going in there with the bucket, dude. Way to take control. You're gonna snap it at the C7 but diagonally, you asshole. Yeah. We really fucked this one up.

Yeah. How did you not know that? I saw, this is crazy, but I don't know why it popped up, but there was an ad for like a hangable bat house to put on your property where they could just chill. And it was like a nice little piece of woodwork. And then I thought, why would anybody want that? Like, hey, mosquito village, you can just put it right here on your porch and interact with the mosquitoes. Sure.

I don't know. Maybe some people are super into them. It would seem the lead to some problems. That's a very good. I'm not saying they're not. You need bats. It's like spiders. You need them even though they're kind of repulsive.

Except this guy told you to kill it. Well, just the one. Yeah. Just the one. But if everybody, and if everybody killed it, yeah. Sure. Yeah. It's like the Chipotle hot sauce thing all over again.

All right. Exactly like, uh, thanks to Kyle. Thanks to Steve. We'll have a war gun update for you. If anybody, no one's going to actually reach out to him. We'll hear from him. It'll all be new for us too on Wednesday. We'll recap this half marathon at Disney, see if you get any new ink and you can watch it on YouTube, on our YouTube

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