The Scathing Atheist - 377: Reality Check Edition

Episode Date: May 7, 2020

In this week’s episode, we’ll fill you in on where Noah’s been hiding, we learn that first, the Nazis came for your phone number so they could call you if you might have a deadly virus, and Alison Gill of American Atheists will be here to quantify your suffering. --- Links to more info on Mubarak Bala, the President of the Humanist Association of Nigeria, click here: Nigerian humanist arrested for blasphemy: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/05/05/atheists-launch-freemubarakbala-to-help-nigerian-activist-accused-of-blasphemy/ --- To make a per episode donation at Patreon.com, click here: http://www.patreon.com/ScathingAtheist To buy our book, click there: http://www.amazon.com/Diatribes-Godless-Misanthrope-Scathing-Presents-ebook/dp/B00J53FZFI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396141562&sr=8-1 To check out our sister show, The Skepticrat, click here: https://audioboom.com/channel/the-skepticrat To check out our sister show’s hot friend, God Awful Movies, click here: https://audioboom.com/channel/god-awful-movies To check out our half-sister show, Citation Needed, click here: http://citationpod.com/ To check out our sister show’s sister show, D and D minus, click here: https://danddminus.libsyn.com/ To hear more from our intrepid audio engineer Morgan Clarke, click here: https://www.morganclarkemusic.com/ --- Guest Links: Check out the Reality Check report here: https://www.atheists.org/2020/05/reality-check-being-nonreligious-in-america/ --- Headlines: Liberty Counsel Lies About COVID Tracking: “Germans Did This Very Thing to Jews”: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/05/02/christian-group-lies-about-covid-tracking-germans-did-this-very-thing-to-jews/ Ted Cruz Milks De Blasio’s “Jewish Community” Tweet In Concerned Letter to DoJ: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/05/01/ted-cruz-milks-de-blasios-jewish-community-tweet-in-concerned-letter-to-doj/ FAT GUY IN A RED HAT Protest in Louisiana on Behalf of TONY SPELL: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/04/27/christian-pastors-protest-in-louisiana-on-behalf-of-covid-19-defying-pastor/ Egged On By Tony Spell’s Mom, Christians Jam Police Department’s Phone Line: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/04/30/egged-on-by-tony-spells-mom-christians-jam-police-departments-phone-line/ Nigerian humanist arrested for blasphemy: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/05/05/atheists-launch-freemubarakbala-to-help-nigerian-activist-accused-of-blasphemy/ Alaska School District Nixes Books Like Catch-22 and Gatsby as Too Controversial: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/05/04/alaska-school-district-nixes-books-like-catch-22-and-gatsby-as-too-controversial/ 13 Haitian Kids Died, and the U.S. Church Responsible Offered Families $250 Each: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/04/27/13-haitian-kids-died-and-the-u-s-church-responsible-offered-families-250-each/ Due To Lockdown, Christians Are Developing Huge Porn Addiction, Evangelist Warns: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/05/02/due-to-lockdown-christians-are-developing-huge-porn-addiction-evangelist-warns/ --- This Week in Misogyny: Lori Alexander praises COVID-19 for forcing moms to be home with their kids: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/04/08/christian-mother-covid-19-is-a-blessing-because-moms-are-home-with-their-kids/ Dress Up and Don’t Nag: Malaysia Apologizes For COVID-19 Tips on Wifely Behavior https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/04/02/dress-up-and-dont-nag-malaysia-apologizes-for-covid-19-tips-on-wifely-behavior/ Sudan Will Likely Ban Female Genital Mutilation...Too Late For 87% of Its Women: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/05/03/sudan-will-likely-ban-female-genital-mutilation-too-late-for-87-of-its-women/

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I'm Eli Bosnick. I'm Heath Enright. And from Samuel Alito's New Jersey, Cincinnati Swing State, and Good Husband Georgia, this is The Scathing Atheist. On this week's episode, we'll fill you in on where Noah's been hiding. We learn that first, the Nazis came for your phone number so they could call you if you might have a deadly virus. Yep. And Allison Gill of American Atheists will be here to quantify your suffering. But first, the diatribe. the only reason i haven't heard any of these assholes equating the murder hornets with the

scorpion horse locus from revelation is that they haven't read the goddamn book. I mean, the apocalypse watchers are just having a field day with this pandemic shit, aren't they? Because plague is so biblical. God held the first horseman of the apocalypse is even pestilence or it's war or the breakup of a great empire or the coming of the antichrist but like a bit like one of the common interpretations of the first horseman of the apocalypse was infectious disease even before all this covet 19 shit started to happen huh maybe you've seen that meme where they pull the uh the 666 out of corona see if you assign each letter its corresponding number a for one b for two etc and then you add up the value of all the letters in corona you get 66 plus hold on it gets better corona has six

letters in it six six six never mind that coronavirus is one word that would be that would be 11 155 that fucks up the whole Also, never mind that it's a category of virus that includes all kinds of shit and that the virus causing this particular disease is SARS-CoV-2, spelled like a fucking online banking password. But if you just use part of one of the words and then add the numbers up of the letters, you get 666, sort of you cheat obviously that's what god was warning about in the book and he couldn't think of a more direct way of saying hey look out for a pandemic in 2020 because you know he figured we'd be adding up a lot of numeric codes

by now and speaking english but but my favorite effort in this regard is the 11 step parade of horribles that's spilling out of rick wiles right now he's got it that bill gates is going to develop a cure or i'm sorry wait rather he's already developed a cure alongside of his development of this virus himself and will soon release the cure but it's no traditional cure no it's a microchip how does a microchip fight a virus go Go fuck yourself. Rick is talking. So once Gates microchip is out there, people can get it implanted in themselves, thereby creating some sort of cyborgian immunity that will allow them to go out, even as others are still forced to stay in place. Forced? Yes, forced.

But how, you may ask, if you're not fucking yourself as per instructions will the authorities that will soon be roaming the streets enforcing the national lockdown know that you've received your immunity chip why they'll have to check for the id chip on the back of your hand and and just to be sure you're not faking it they'll have to take your temperature using your what? That's right. Your fucking forehead. Mark of the Beast. This always seems so goddamn weird to me. They pour over that book desperately looking for these hidden clues and numerological warnings that the apocalypse is nigh.

But like their apocalypse includes a seven-headed dragon rising up in a goddamn ocean like he's about to fight Godzilla that happens fairly early on I feel like we just wait for that to happen fucking seven-headed dragon comes waddling up on Long Beach one day and we're gonna like we'll look to ourselves and go hey look at that the 10 crowns fucking Christians nailed it so why the fuck you got to go looking for the antichrist just wait for the dragons to show up and then you'll know for sure. And don't give me that it's metaphorical shit because I fucking know it's metaphorical. Hell, I even know what it's a metaphor for. But you can't have it selectively metaphorical.

The seven-headed dragon can't represent the Roman Empire if the scorpion locusts represent scorpion hornets. That's not how fucking metaphors work. locusts represent scorpion hornets this is how fucking metaphors work if the symbol on your forehead and your back of your hand represents a symbol on the forehead in the back of your hand you're not doing metaphors anymore you're just making predictions and getting some of them wrong or or all of them wrong in this case but thus is the arrogance and willful ignorance of christianity right they have a personal relationship with the creator of the universe who loves them unconditionally with the greatest imaginable love. And they know that this is true because a guy they paid to tell them that told them that. Once you've already cleared that level

of delusional self-worth, it's nothing to tack on the belief that against all odds and evidence, you live in the end of days. It's a feeling that, as near as we can tell, has been shared by every fucking Christian at every fucking time throughout history. All of them somehow certain that the fact that everybody else who thought it was wrong made it more likely that it would be right this time. And I'm hardly the first person to point out that believing one lives at the cusp of the end times makes for some shitty long-term planning. Look, we live at the absolute height of civilization. I don't doubt we'll reach higher climbs in the future, but we

have not reached them in the past. Right? I get that a lot of people in this world are suffering and that there's a lot of misery, but still, there's never been a better time in human history when so many people had so much freedom, when there was so much abundance and so much convenience. There are problems in this world to solve. absolutely and there are people who have largely been left off of all this progress but if you measure human history by the average person's quality of life we live at the current apex of all of humanity but that but that doesn't fit with their fucking theology their theology demands a broken world and it damn sure can't abide a world that got better. As it got less Christian.

And so every war. Is ushering in the end times. Every earthquake is a harbinger of the apocalypse. Every new technology is a tool of the antichrist. And every word or phrase. That can be made to add up to 666. Is a sign of the god damn devil. And when a tragedy. That truly unusual comes along and causes great suffering over a wide area, they fucking revel in it.

They point to it as this long awaited sign of vindication. They kept screaming that this amazing world that humanism had crafted was flawed and terrible, despite all the evidence to the contrary. And so in this pandemic they see society getting its comeuppance make no mistake in the war between humanity and this virus an awful lot of christians are on covid19 side and if that sounds hyperbolic i challenge you to find any asshole anywhere in this fucking country that's been out protesting lockdowns and stay-at-home orders and mask regulations and ask them who their Lord and Savior is. They're talking about you, Jesus. We interrupt this broadcast to bring you a special news bulletin.

Joining me for headlines tonight. Actually, I'm back now, so I could take this a bit over. Right, okay. But we started this whole gag where you're dead and we're trying to cover it up. You're kind of fucking up our bit. We got a whole bit going. I'm fucking up your bit by not being dead?

Yeah, sorry, Noah. It's canon now. Like, Carl's love of garlic bread. It's true. I do love garlic bread. He does. He does love garlic bread. See?

Okay, but I didn't die, though. I took a couple of headline segments and a couple of game episodes off to write a book about how religion is exacerbating the pandemic. Okay, nobody's going to believe you wrote a book in three weeks, Noah. It's way more realistic that you have died. Yeah, it could be murder hornets that got him. Oh, and that's why we're covering it up. Oh, I love it.

Yes, murder hornets. But I've written the headlines and stuff for this week. I just did a diatribe. Pre-recorded. Yeah, probably. I mentioned the murder hornets in it. Eli could be doing a voice. He does voices. I do.

That's probably what it was. Why do I quack? Why do you go quack? Great question. Wait a minute. Then Eli could be doing a voice of me when I do the joining me for headlines bit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. That tracks. Yep. I guess. All right, Noah. If that is your real name. It's not. Oh.

Joining me for headlines tonight are the red and yellow to my green, Heath Enright and Eli Bosnick. Fellas, are you ready to go? Well, Noah, if I were truly committed to the spirit of the question, I would have started talking when you said yellow. That's fair. That's fair. That'll get you a boost in Mario Kart, too.

Yeah, yeah. All right, well, now I want to play Mario Kart, so we're going to take a quick break for a word from our first sponsor this week, Stamps.com. And don't forget the forever stamps. I heard you the first time, Heath. All right, God. Hey, guys, what's up with the scuba gear? Oh, Eli's going to the post office.

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That's Stamps.com. Enter scathing. Stay safe, my friends. Oh, thank you, Noah. You know, I mostly meant your air tank is very clearly filled with helium. It says. Your point. You know what?

Never mind. Right. Okay. And now back to the headlines. In our lead story tonight. In Godwin is dead news. Medicine is Hitler. Just so many idiots found so many ways of making that claim this week.

It's baffling. I don't know how. Hitler did have side effects, Heath. That's true. Well, we're going to talk about a couple of the most absurd examples, starting matt staver of the christian attorney hate group liberty council according to staver the government of kansas city missouri is just like hitler but it's it's not what you think he was not pointing out that states like missouri have a whole bunch of neo-nazis in power those are some of his best clients actually he was explaining how tracking the spread of covid19 is just like tracking jewish people in germany right before the holocaust

same z's oh oh okay matt with fucking one t let me explain this complicated first get a second t and then let me explain this complicated logical fucking principle to you just because bigots have historically accused jews of poisoning the water supply doesn't make the people who caught you poisoning the water supply big idiot all right well first of all let's let's give some credit where credit's due matt staver did know that kansas city, Missouri is located in the state of Missouri. That's a tricky one, but he nailed it. Overqualified for the presidency, really, if you think about it.

Yeah, and to be a third of this podcast. It depends on which third, but yeah. And we're done with the credit section. I'm the third. Kansas City is letting non-essential gatherings start happening again. And they're asking places like restaurants and churches

to keep track of the people who show up, you know, just in case the coronavirus isn't completely eradicated like we've all assumed. So, you know, you know, pogrom phase one. Right, right.

Yeah, exactly. All right, Matt, with one T, I got news for you. If the government wanted to kill you, you're already doing the job, yeah, exactly. All right, Matt, with one T, I got news for you. If the government wanted to kill you, you're already doing the job for them, buddy. I mean, like, they might offer you more enclosed public spaces to meet in,

but you guys are rushing in. Great job. Yeah. Save us some of that budget. It's important, you know, fiscal conservative, no spending. So, here's the official statement from Liberty Council last week.

Quote, the Kansas City government is now demanding that churches turn over membership lists along with the names, telephone numbers and physical addresses of anyone who enters the church. And nope, I'm just going to drop in a nope there. We'll circle back to that in a second. Continuing the quote the germans did this very thing to jews jesus collecting the names and locations of all known synagogue attendees in the early days of the nazi regime end exact quote oh okay but you get that that's not what the jews are still sore over though right he does not get that yeah matt's also pretty sure the stars pissed us off because gold clashes with black okay whatever stupid joke gold does

not clash with black it pay attention it doesn't versace pre-fall 2019 roadmap print was literally black and gold so there you go anyway um just to be clear about how this particular pre-holocaust is working in the notorious atheist nazi stronghold of kansas city missouri the city is asking anyone in charge of a gathering place to keep the contact information of the people involved just in case someone later tests positive as a way to contact anyone who might have been exposed and here's the most important part they don't have to hand in that information like it's fucking nazi homework that's not part of it city just wants each facility to have it on hand as a precaution and considering how well churches did with holding secret lists of

pedophiles for decades. I think they can handle a call sheet without causing a Holocaust of, again, Christian people in fucking Missouri. I hate to say it, but like on air especially, but atheism needs more direct plots, guys. We keep going in all of these different weird directions. More plots. Don't tweet maps of Joel Osteen's house. Make up your mind. No illusions. Make up your mind. It's been pretty clear. More plots. Don't tweet maps of Joel Osteen's house. Make up your mind, no illusions. Make up your mind.

It's been pretty clear. All right. Well, that brings us to our second brand new champion of Judaism out of nowhere all of a sudden. And that would be downward facing Senator Ted Cruz. It's just his entire face. I don't know how he did it. Like every feature somehow points down. Even when he looks up, yeah.

It just sags. Yep, he's saggy. So apparently Cruz also became worried about anti-Semitism recently, all of a fucking sudden. So he sent a letter to Attorney General William Barr explaining all the discrimination in New York City. explaining all the discrimination in New York City. Unlike Texas, of course, where Cruz is fostering a wonderful,

inclusive environment for the Jewish faith. In fairness, Cruz was responding to a terribly worded tweet from New York Mayor Bill de Blasio about religious gatherings spreading the virus. But in double fairness, fuck Ted Cruz. spreading the virus. But in double fairness, fuck Ted Cruz. Okay, but in triple fairness, the tweet from de Blasio was horrendous.

It said, my message to the Jewish community and all communities is simple. Apparently he typed all that in permanent marker. He continued, I've instructed the NYPD to proceed immediately to summons or even arrest those who gather in large groups. This is about stopping the disease and saving lives, period.

Okay, wait, is this tweet COVID-ist? Are we supposed to check our macro-organism privileges here? So, yeah, just in case anyone missed it, de Blasio is the mayor of Plagueton right now. He's kind of dealing with something. And he did not appreciate the giant crowd of people attending the funeral of a prominent Brooklyn rabbi in violation of all the pandemic safety orders. Valid concern. The general context here is extremely valid and very important. But then he sent a tweet at all the jewish people of new york not like

the one ultra orthodox group that had the gathering just dear you people basically so obviously bad phrasing you could have done that better but ted cruz could definitely shut the fuck up and stop pretending that enforcing pandemic safety protocol is somehow religious persecution and he's doing that to win political points right asshole obviously yeah i don't i pretending that enforcing pandemic safety protocol is somehow religious persecution. And he's doing that to win political points. He's an asshole, obviously. Yeah, I don't know. How dare he single out the group causing the problem in a tweet that clearly points out that he's asking the same thing of all people.

Sure, it could be phrased better, but that's true of every tweet, really. so i guess we'll see what happens when the u.s justice department checks on new york city being the center of america's anti-semitism problem yeah it's important either way i'm sure the jewish community is super relieved to have matt staver and ted cruz looking out for them so good stuff now that we did experience during world war ii and it did not work out throwing that out there and in covidius news you know heath and i generally make up our own stuff but recycling is good no yeah okay you were gone for so long i ran out of older jokes i missed i missed part of two episodes still still okay in these darkened times still you can just say still whenever you want still in these darkened times of uncertainty it's become clear to many of us what we have to cling

to friends family and the fact that tony spell can go fuck himself. So for those of you who missed what can only properly be called the continuing saga of Pastor Tony Spell. First, the improperly named because he probably can't pastor refused to abide by social distancing put in place by the state of Louisiana. Yeah. Then he hired Roy Moore as his lawyer. Terrifying. Then his other lawyer got COVID-19 then one of his parishioners died of COVID-19 and then he was like you know what I don't think I've heard a whole fucking sub chapter in Noah's new book yet yes it does get better because in response to the murdery McMurder he murdered, Spell created the hashtag Pastor Spell Stimulus Challenge where he asked his followers for their stimulus money. He totally did.

Yeah. Side note, somebody, no idea who, while Noah was gone, told people to tweet pictures of dudes kissing with the hashtag pastor spell stimulus challenge and when you click on that hashtag now it's full of kissing dudes so yeah do not keep that up uh don't do that that's right that's the official policy and definitely don't trick people with a misleading link when you don't do that. Also known as dick rolling. Don't dick roll anybody. I'm back now, though. Right. Fair.

Anyway, last week he tried to hit someone with a bus, was put under house arrest, broke that house arrest, preached anyway. And this past Sunday, he was supported by the one, the only, the man, the myth, the legend, fat guy in a red hat yep that's right yes fat guy in a red hat josh forrestine led a crowd of people many of whom were there to support spell and indirectly commit suicide well that too yeah and my favorite part is the one guy in the crowd who made one of those signs this guy oh yes yeah this guy went to hobby lobby very clearly and he tried to write first amendment but he very clearly ran out of space and had to settle for first amend plus sign cross whatever. Yes. Ellipses. When I saw that, I assumed that his buddy with the ment sign got lost. Just a guy with no shirt that says ment.

I thought it was a Thursday. Yeah. So there are video clips of this and Josh is balanced. I'm going to say precariously on the back of a flatbed truck. However he's balanced. Yes, he really does fill up the vehicle we use to transport livestock, doesn't he? So, yeah. Look for more unfortunate death news to come from Tony's neck of the woods soon.

Either from COVID-19, which he continues to spread, or because Josh Forstein fell on someone. Yeah. By the way, his red hat was gone in this video, which was very confusing. I had no idea who he was. I'm guessing maybe it exploded from the pressure of his enormous expanding face. And I don't know.

It looked like he had a pocket square that was made out of the remains of the hat, perhaps. Maybe over the last two weeks, somebody went and jerked off in it. I don't know. We don't know. It looked like he had a pocket square that was made out of the remains of the hat, perhaps. Maybe over the last two weeks, somebody went and jerked off in it. I don't know. We don't know what happened to it, really. And while we further obscure that mystery, we're going to take a quick break for a word from our second sponsor this week. Honey. Oh, oh, I found one.

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I'm kidding. I actually took some time off to build formidable ramparts around my yard because these idiots in Georgia won't be happy until they get everybody killed. But don't worry about all of the deaths and economic suffering this virus is causing. My arch nemesis, Lori Alexander, already declared it all worthwhile to get mothers back at home parenting their children. And here's her reasoning. She's a terrible bitch. Nowhere near the worst sexism I've seen in the coronavirus news since the last time I saw you, though. That prize might belong to a series of Malaysian posters that reminded women not to be all bitchy during quarantine. For example, one poster told women not to nag their

husbands while everybody is stuck at home. It even gave some great examples of things you can do instead of nagging. And those things include gentle humor, girlish giggling, and using a Doraemon-like voice. What does that last one mean? I am so glad you asked, and I promise I am not making this shit up. Doraemon is a robot cat from a Japanese children's cartoon whose voice sounds like Elmo got corrupted by the One Ring. Now, after humans saw the posters, the Malaysian Women and Family Development Ministry apologized for them and took them down. Which is a good thing and all, but holy fuck,

when you roll the Women Department and the Family Development Department into the same ministry, how the fuck is their finished product supposed to not be sexist? And I know I should keep this segment closer to home with all the social distancing orders and place and all of that, but our final story comes out of sudan and it actually contains good news well in the sense that the last one did it's a story about a terrible sexist thing that a country was doing and isn't doing anymore except this one is way worse because this country was chopping girls clips off but apparently they won't anymore or at least they're going to make some minimal effort to stop

it hopefully but yeah after the UN estimated 87 percent of Sudanese women had undergone that irreversible ritual torture the nation finally looks set to outlaw female genital mutilation and impose a three-year prison term on anyone caught performing the act now of course this won't end the process overnight, but holy shit, at the very goddamn least, it's finally illegal. And that's as close as we get to warm and fuzzy on TWIM. Anyway, sorry to leave you so soon

after not seeing you for so long, but that's all I've got. So until next time, which will be next week instead of next month this time, I'll hand things back over to Noah, Heath, and Eli. Thank you, Lucinda. And in, okay, but this bit is serious news tonight. If you've listened to the show for a while, you'll know that with the exception of our annual charity drive, we don't do much call to action stuff on the show.

We don't tend to ask our listeners to sign many online petitions or join many marches. You know, while we're, we've always promoted secular activism and atheist community building, we tend to avoid tossing out and now pause the show and go to such and such dot com or, you know, be sure to add hashtag such and such type stuff. And there's two reasons for that. One is that, you know, that type of activism is rarely effective and often makes people feel like they've done something when they haven't. And the second is that when we do have an ask like that, we want you to know

it's important. So listen up because we've got to ask for you like that. Please marry Heath. Someone. You've seen his walls. We have to do something.

No, you have not. It's a different thing. Okay, fine. Okay. So Mubarak Bala is a humanist activist in Nigeria and he might just need

your online activism to save his fucking life last week it was reported that bala the president of the humanist association of nigeria had been arrested for blasphemy and now there's some question as to exactly what charges he's going to face and more importantly where he's going to face them and that matters because in nigeria the courts are not the same from state to state. If he is tried in the northern state of Kano, I think it's Kano, Kano, something like that. But anyway, if he's tried there, Sharia law rules the day he will likely be executed. Apparently, explicit threats have been made to that end. Yeah. And we might not have Sharia law in the U.S., but let's remember that a majority of the Supreme Court loves to talk about states' rights and

federalism, and a majority of U.S. states have the fucking death penalty right now. We certainly can't look down on Nigeria for this. We have state-by-state shit like that, too. That's where you come in. It matters to these leaders

when they realize that the world is watching. What the human rights groups that have taken up his case are asking is pretty simple. They just want you to take a picture of yourself holding a sign that says hashtag free Mubarak Bala. That's M-U-B-A-R-A-K. Or just insert those words over a photo that you already have. And tweet it at PoliceNG, at Malami San, and at Mbuhare. That's the Nigerian police, their attorney general, and their president. I will have a link in the show notes where all of the names and shit are spelled out.

They also have a link to a statement of support that you can sign and a legal fund that you can donate to. It'll take five minutes, and it literally might help save this guy's life. And? And? And if one of you could marry Heathath and decorate his walls that would be great there are you happy yes no okay next up in headlines considering everything that's happening in the world right now we've been talking a lot about the catastrophic effects of religious people getting science wrong so we're going to change it up for a minute and talk about religious people getting science wrong. So we're going to change it up for a minute and talk about religious people

getting a different academic subject aggressively wrong. And, you know, we picked a subject at random because they pretty much all fit that description. And we landed on... Oh, please be acting like a pigeon. Please be acting like a pigeon. We landed on literature. Damn it all to hell.

Yeah, so thanks to a school board full of borderline illiterate Christians, the second largest school district in Alaska of about 19,000 students just removed four extremely important books from their curriculum. English classes will no longer be teaching The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald, Catch-22 by Joseph Heller, Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison, and I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou. Those are all gone. Oh, no, not Catch-22. How will Andrew trick those schoolchildren into reading 44 pages about a dude's cheeks now?

Catch-22 is a good book. You have a fine arts degree, irregardless. Okay, just say regardless. So, here's the explanation we got from one of the board members. According to the Jeff Taylor, who seems unaware that his name construction

is stolen from one of the authors he just banned, according to him the choice to remove Gatsby was a tough one. But eventually, all that racy flapper language got to him i guess and as for the other books this is a real quote as for the other books i have not read the others uh have i read them have you read them you have fuck yep uh? You have. Fuck. Yep. No. No, I haven't.

I'm a man who bans books. Why would I have read them? You're off the school board. That's official. Wow. And just for the record, if V. Jeff Taylor had read the others, especially Invisible Man, he definitely would have been yelling about, you know, Booker T. Washington's an anti-what bigot.

Yes. So maybe it's better he skipped that one i don't know well to be fair nothing nails the point of that fucking book like a white guy who hasn't read it banning it yeah they might as well have banned fahrenheit 451 which has happened in the past at other school districts it's wet i can't anyway despite all the obvious problems this represents, and the fact that similar things are happening in schools all over the place,

there's a bit of a happy ending to this one. An attorney who has a kid at one of the high schools in the district is offering a cash reward for any students who read all the books that got dropped. And it's working. Those titles are completely sold out in local bookstores. I'd love it if we didn't need

the fucking Streisand effect and bribery to defeat religion-inspired ignorance. But, you know, whatever works, I guess. It's tough. If you are the way underneath my way.

That's not what the Streisand effect is. No. It is now. It's her, but it's not based on one of her songs. And in you hate you see it news. What? Talking about Haitian people in this one.

But that's not, it's not Haiti. Why not Hades? Yeah, Hades. One of the nice things about working here at The Scathing Atheist is that we don't have to wear pants. That's true. Best part of the nice things about working here at The Scathing Atheist is that we don't have to wear pants. That's true. Best part of the job. But another nice thing is that Christianity never runs out of new and exciting villains for us to tell you about.

And this week's up and comer is a sort of throwback. The Church of Bible Understanding. Found in 1971 in Pennsylvania by a former vacuum cleaner salesman cbu went full cult almost immediately and its adherence famously worked and work long hours for little or no pay are told not to date and are asked to cut off their families unless they join the church huh it's just like all the other cults plus the jehovah's witnesses or just like all the cults and we should stop being so fucking nice to those wackaloons in the Jehovah's Witnesses. Yep, that's fair.

That's fair. So in 2013, they decided to get into the charity game, accepting donations to build housing for poor families in Haiti. Well, turns out that those poor Haitians were just too fancy for CBU's houses. Or as

Wikipedia puts it, quote, in November of 2013, the AP investigated claims that the church was at fault for running substandard housing for children in Haiti after two homes the church runs received a failing grade from the Haitian agency that monitors such projects. Even though they claim in IRS filings to be spending about 2.5 million annually, the home for boys and girls was so dirty and overcrowded that the government said it shouldn't remain open end quote yeah the haitian government this building failed the fucking haitian building code right that's the fucking equivalent of getting banned from twitter for racism yeah yeah so it did actually

remain open and not quite yeah until last month when a fire caused by the candles used by residents because they didn't have electricity killed 13 children and two adult caretakers uh but don't worry don't worry according to the associated. According to the Associated Press, quote, for the death of each child, parents said the church offered to pay just $50 to $100 in family compensation.

What? Along with $150 for funeral-related costs such as new clothes and transportation. End quote. Oh, good. They added that last thing.

That's important. Yeah. Like, hey, yeah, sorry about your good. They added that last thing. That's important. Like, hey, sorry about your kid getting kind of murdered by us. Here's a shovel, a tuxedo t-shirt, and an Uber. You're fine. You're fine. Uber pool. How did they determine who got the

50 and who got the 100? You know what? I don't want to know. Quick tag on this story to really hit home the bummer here. As Hemant Mehta over at the Friendly Atheist blog points out, CBU currently has $19 million in assets, including, quote, a 12,000 square foot house in Coral Springs, Florida, where their leader lived with his wife, exempt from state property taxes on religious grounds end quote um so haiti owns that now that house yeah so as noah once said may he rest in peace i'm literally on the podcast with you right christian charity is just charity minus oversight plus lying and finally tonight in porn again christian, the entire B segment so far has been imprisoned activists who might die, banned books and dead kids.

So, holy fuck, do we need a story right now about a jackass pastor freaking out over naked people? And Josh McDowell has our back. In an interview with the Christian Post, McDowell warned that pornography is, quote, destroying more churches, more pastors, more marriages, more people's lives, more relationships

than any one thing has ever done simultaneously in history, end quote. I love that he used the word destroy there as it applies to pastors. Yeah, right. The whole thing he said is stupid. But I can see that

word applying to other stuff, like a marriage gets destroyed, a relationship gets destroyed. But a pastor getting destroyed. I'm just picturing his wife is like, hey, so I guess you'll be home a few more Sundays because of this whole thing. What about we do some brunch? And he's like, must masturbate, must masturbate.

Just like ball of fire. What is happening? Okay, to be fair, though, I did type pastor destroyed into Pornhub, and I get it. There is a lot of, okay, a lot on there. All right. So the efforts to beat this problem suffered a stroke of bad luck when it was engorged by the stiff penalties. You know what? I don't need to force some apologies.

We're better than that. Anyway, McDowell went so far as to say, quote, porn is by far the greatest cancer ever to the church. End quote. So, you know, not the kid rapes. I thought it was going to be. I was going to guess kid rapes. That was my first guess, too. Or the crusades. The crusades was. Sure. Okay. kid rapes i thought it was gonna be i was gonna guess kid that was my first guess too yeah first

the crusades was was sure okay how about just cancer is the greatest cancer how it does not comport with the notion of a loving omnipotent god but no it turns out it was hentai okay uh hentai pastor destroyed even more results i've been there a point, guys? I've been there. Oh, yeah. And as inclined as I was to disagree with discreet, I'm pretty sure he won me back at the end by endorsing group masturbation. You guys tell me.

Here's the end of the interview. Quote, In the new American Standard Version of the Bible, 161 times the phrase one another is used and 30 sometimes it says each other. End quote. He also said that 98% of people who become addicted to porn will not make it out of the addiction without others around. Yes, he did.

Yes, exactly. All right. That's an official stamp on that group masturbation thing. Well, yeah. Two stamps. So while we go jerk off with Josh McDowell, I guess we're going to close the headlines for the night. Heath, Eli, thanks as always.

Pastor Tony Spell Challenge. And when we come back, Allison Gill will be here with numbers and data and shit. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Hey, Eli. What?

What's the matter, man? I got to get some hair fast. Why? Because, Heath, two bald guys with a podcast? That's insane. Everyone knows it's got to be two bald guys and a guy with hair. What? That's not true.

That's not a rule. Yes, it is. All right. Well, whatever. Why don't you just try 4hims.com? What's 4hims.com? So luxurious. So shiny. That's right.

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Hey, how do you do that with your hair? Oh, a little speaker taped to my neck, remote in my pocket. Oh. Worth it? Oh oh totally worth it sorry sorry uh car keys yeah because those ballet slippers were a secret well i don't think they will think it's adorable mom hi i'm no illusions and i'm heath enright inviting you to join us on saturday at 8 p.m Eastern for the scathing atheist.

Stay the fuck home. Live stream Mother's Day edition with special guests. Our moms. Mom, I'm not going to sing a song because it's not that kind of show. I've told you this. We're going to be answering questions with our moms and you won't want to miss it. It's going to go a lot better for some of us than it will for others. No, don't bring it, Mr. Snuggly.

I told you to ship into me anyways. The Scaling Atheist Stay the Fuck Home livestream Mother's Day edition. Because if you're going to be stuck inside, you might as well be stuck with our moms. The cell phone bill? Um, okay. Well, what do you mean again?

Seriously? She's being unreasonable. You don't pay your bill? Um, okay. Well, what do you mean again? Seriously? She's being unreasonable. You don't pay your bill? It's a family plan. Pollsters and demographers have been slow to catch up with the shifting religious attitudes of America. pollsters and demographers have been slow to catch up with the shifting religious attitudes of America. As non-religious Americans swell in number, pollsters still rely on the nondescript catch-all term nuns to categorize us and all the other folks that don't fit neatly into one of their mainline Protestant, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox type pigeonholes. Even as other has become the fastest growing religious demographic, groups like the Pew Research Center seem hesitant to parse that group.

So the folks at American Atheist decided to do that themselves, or at least start that process. And joining me to talk about it today is the VP for Legal and Policy for American Atheist, Allison Gale. Allison, thank you so much for joining me. Thanks for having me. This is super exciting. I had a chance to look over the survey before we spoke. So first of all, let's talk about the survey itself. Thanks for having me. we had about 34,000 people across the country participate. And this is non-religious folks.

It's not like you were just saying a moment ago, religiously unaffiliated people. It's people that affirmatively identify with one or more non-religious labels like atheist or humanist. This is really essential because the government doesn't collect data on non-religious people like they do in other minority communities. And therefore, we just lack a lot of information that's pretty essential in areas like education, health care and others.

OK, so now this is going to seem like a silly question to have to ask, but I do think it's important that we clarify why does it matter that we have the actual numbers? Well, because without the numbers, we don't know the issues that are facing our community. Like we all have anecdotes about people, you know, being rejected from their homes or facing discrimination or whatever it might be, or just facing a lot of stigma in certain places in the country. But without the data, that's all it is, anecdotes. Like we can't say anything for sure.

And if you can't say anything about it, you can't use it for advocacy purposes, like go in and explain the problem to lawmakers. It's very difficult to get funding from foundations to address the issue and create programs. So basically, without data, we're invisible as a community. Right. Okay. That's well said. Okay. So now this was a voluntary online survey. I took it myself. So for those of us who aren't super familiar with the methods of data collection, does that mean that it is not a scientific survey? It is a scientific survey. It was conducted by researchers. However, it is not a scientific survey? It is a scientific survey. It was conducted by researchers.

However, it is not a population survey, which means that it's not representative of the entire non-religious community. It's what they call a convenience sample or a snowball sample. So basically, people referred others to others who took the survey, and we used a lot of online channels to get it out there. So people self-selected to take the survey, and therefore it's not representative of the broader community. However, we're talking about 34,000 people, so it tells us a lot about the community, even if it's not perfectly representative. Right, gotcha. So when I look in there and I see like the percentage of respondents that were African-American or that were LGBTQ, that is not the percentage within the atheist community?

Correct. Okay. Yes. So, okay, let's talk about the actual survey the atheist community. Correct. Okay. Yes. So, okay, let's talk about the actual survey data. I'm a data geek. So the obvious question to ask versus what the hell are we? Are we atheists, nuns, freethinkers, humanists, brights?

How do atheists identify? Great. That's a great question. And first of all, nuns, I think, is a separate category. That's the category, like you said earlier, that Pew Research Center and PRI often use, the religiously unaffiliated people. That's about 25% of the population, give or take. And actually, the actual people that identify with one or more non-religious labels, like atheists, are much smaller, closer to 8 or 9%. And so we saw through the survey that a significant portion, the most significant portion, identifies atheists, about 57%, as their primary non-religious identity. And the second after that was humanists, about 14%.

And the other labels had a smaller smattering of percentages. But altogether, 95% of the survey takers identified to some degree as an atheist. of the survey takers identified to some degree as an atheist. Now, is that just what we tell anonymous online surveys, or is that what we tell people in the real world as well? Well, there's no way for us to know that for sure. We just know that 57% of people said that's their primary identity, and 95% agreed to some degree with it. However, we did look at concealment of people's non-religious identities in the survey, and we found pretty striking numbers that people conceal their identities very often, especially at school, among strangers, and at work.

That can have, you know, it has a real impact in how people see the non-religious community and how it also has an impact on mental health. Yeah, well, and whether people see the non-religious community also. So I'm going to circle back to the mental health thing, because I think that's one of the most interesting findings that I took away from this survey. But before we get into that, I want to talk about bias a little bit. Disproportionately, atheists are educated, wealthy, or at least wealthier than the average population. We're disproportionately white.

That makes it very awkward sometimes for us to discuss the kind of discrimination that we face. That being said, it obviously needs to be talked about. So what did the survey find in terms of bias against atheists? Where do we face it and what forms does it take? Sure. We looked at both discrimination or negative incidents in the past three years, and we also looked at stigma and family rejection and a few other types of discrimination. So the areas where we saw the most discrimination were in areas like the military, education, employment, and private businesses. And we know from research that PRI has done, for example, that discrimination is increasing in areas like private businesses over time.

Amongst stigma, we saw the biggest, most striking differences in places that are very religious. I think that's the biggest takeaway from the report. To give you an example, I grew up in New Jersey, and it was not a very religious community. And there, you know, no one really cares if you're an atheist or non-religious person, people just don't talk about it. But in vast swaths of the country, especially I think the two most religious states we saw were Utah and Mississippi, it is a very big deal. And we see incredible levels of stigma and a lot of discrimination. And now we can very clearly document that. Yeah, well, you know, and I think that's a really,

really important thing that the survey gives us. You know, we were talking about why you need the data. This is a huge example of exactly that. When I talk to my friends in the Bay Area or in New York City, they say, what the hell are you talking about with your South Georgia ass? But yeah, it's very rampant where I am. when it comes to fighting discrimination. We recognize that there are other groups, other minorities that face more dangerous or more damaging or more pervasive biases than we do. So we often put ourselves second or third or last. As odd as this question might sound, why should we fight for our rights? Well, you know, I think that we're ignoring when you say things like that. I think we're ignoring the situation in very religious places where the numbers are truly, you know, horrifying. People face a level of discrimination and stigma that is that is rampant and that needs to be addressed. or non-religious and young people, non-religious ex-Muslims, we see sort of intersectional levels of discrimination that are higher than for non-religious people themselves. So if we want to really take that into account, you know, it's important to understand where the discrimination

is happening for those communities. Well, and another thing I think that's super important that often gets overlooked here is you may not be the victim of discrimination or bias that you recognize or somebody else's discrimination might be worse, but you also might not realize all the effects that that bias is having on you, which brings us back to the findings regarding loneliness and depression amongst atheists. Can you talk a little bit about that? Absolutely. And I think you're exactly right. Concealment, which we talked about, does result, we show very clearly, increased levels of loneliness and discrimination. So we looked at both. We have scales for both looking at loneliness, which means social isolation and feeling you can't connect to other people.

And we should say social isolation in the pre-quarantine sense of the term. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Yeah. We asked if people feel isolated, if they lack companionship and if they feel left out, basically, that's a pretty standard measure of loneliness, those three questions. And we also asked about depression and we used a pretty standard measure of two questions to assess depression. And so we showed that non-religious people have a fairly high level of loneliness and depression, likely depression. But, you know, we can't compare directly with the general population

because that's not sort of the nature of this survey. But it is fairly high, and we see it certainly elevated in areas where there's more stigma and more discrimination. Right. Okay, so now obviously one of the big points of the survey was to identify areas of need for secular people. What are the biggest needs that you uncovered? We found it's really important when people are able to build communities.

It's an important protective factor when people are members of national or local organizations and when they are able to participate in secular community events. For example, advocacy or education or social events. And so that was a really important protective factor. Also, we saw less stigma in places that have stronger laws for the protection of separation of church and state. So American Atheist does an assessment of state laws in every state about how well those states protect the separation of religion and government. And those states that protected the least, that have the most religious exemptions, basically we saw higher levels of stigma. That's interesting.

Yeah. Who knows what the cause and what the effect is there, but one way or the other, it seems like something that we can stem. I think another really super interesting thing, if you'll allow me a quick digression about the report, included in the report are several blurbs from various respondents where they talk about their own experiences and one that really stuck with me was a woman in arizona and if i recall correctly she was deaf and vision impaired or maybe i had wrong maybe she was she was blind and and hearing impaired and she spoke she talked about how she didn't feel that the atheist community did enough to

accommodate people with disabilities and how rarely we talk about how people with disabilities can be forced into dangerous religious situations. And I looked at that and I'm like, Hey, guilty as charged, you know, that is absolutely not something I've thought about or focused on or talked about in the past.

And, and it's simply because her voice wasn't out there for me to hear. And because of this survey, you know, she was able to be heard. Yeah, I think that's really important. I think this is one of the major parts of the survey is getting out these voices that for too long our community has been silent. And, you know, originally we had hoped to get 5,000 to 10,000 people to take the survey. Within the first eight hours, we had over 10,000 people. Overall, we had 34,000 people, which shows you the need here.

People in our community really want to be able to reach out and tell their stories. They feel like they can't, that their voice is silenced. And for the first time, you know, they're able to both, you know, take the report. And also we asked at the end some open-ended questions that allow people to more actively tell their stories. And one in three people actually took the time to input their longer story, which if you know anything about survey taking,

that's an incredibly high number. So we have over 10,000 of those. Yeah, well, you know, anybody who's done atheist podcasting or blogging or been active in the community online will know you get these emails, these messages from people that you've never met that are pouring their heart out to you in a way that they can't to their family, to their friends, to their spouses sometimes. And so, yeah, just having any type of outlet is obviously very welcome for those folks. Now, this reality check report that was released on Tuesday, that is super interesting, but that is not the last we're going to hear from these data, correct? That's right. Yes, we're hoping to release a series of additional smaller reports that look at particular subsections of the population. For example, the first one I'd like to do is

non-religious young people. And so we have some terrific data about non-religious young people. We'd like to do it in conjunction with some of the secular youth organizations, for example, the Secular Student Alliance. So that's what we're exploring at the moment and hope to release it later in the year. Excellent. Well, I've got to say, I would strongly encourage anybody listening to check the link in the show notes. Read through this report. You can peruse the entire thing in an hour, hour and a half. You'll learn a lot. But even just five or 10 minutes glancing through it and looking at some of the blurbs and some of the data that was uncovered can help an awful lot. All right. Well, Allison, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for the data that you guys have provided. And thanks for all the work that American Atheist is doing. Thanks so much for having me.

Before we put our masks back on, I wanted to confirm that, yes, I wrote a book. We don't have a firm release date or even a title just yet, but it's coming pretty soon. We'll obviously be updating you with more details in the very near future, including next week. But, you know, set aside some reading time for me in the near future. Anyway, that's all the blasphemy we've got for you tonight. We'll be back in 10,022 minutes with more. If you can't wait that long, be on the lookout for a brand new episode of our sister show, The Skeptocrat, debuting at 7 a.m. Eastern on Monday. an even newer episode of our sister show's hot friend, Godolph and Booze,

debuting at 7 a.m. Eastern on Tuesday, and an even newer episode of our half-sister show, Citation Needed, debuting at noon Eastern on Wednesday. Obviously, I wouldn't be much of a host if I didn't thank Heath Enright for doing, like, a ton of my work over the last month so that I could get through this book. I want to thank Eli Bosnick for doing another ton of my work for the same reason. I also want to thank the lovely and talented Lucinda Lusions for making her triumphant the same reason. I also want to thank the lovely and talented Lucinda illusions for making her triumphant return this week. I also want to thank slash apologize to Jeff from Pennsylvania, whose Farnsworth quote didn't make it into the show last week because, and I don't mind admitting this.

I was burnt the fuck out by Wednesday night last week, but it did make it in this week and it remains good advice vote by mail. But most of all, of course I want to thank this week's most mellifluous mammalia, Robert stoner, daddy, Nicholas, Greg Lewis, Jay, Jack Oliver, Matthew, Adam, Gavin at Kellen and outrage towards it as an anger. of all of course i want to thank this week's most mellifluous mammalia robert stoner daddy nicholas greg lewis j jack oliver matthew adam gavinette kellen an outrage towards it is an anger cake

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