The Scathing Atheist - 395: Laborious Edition

Episode Date: September 10, 2020

In this week’s episode, we learn that Michael Cohen knew trump was an atheist before it was cool, Dave Daubenmire finds out if he’s being detained, and Michael Marshall will be here to argue that he did not, in fact, do COVID. --- To make a per episode donation at Patreon.com, click here: http://www.patreon.com/ScathingAtheist To buy our book, click there: http://www.amazon.com/Diatribes-Godless-Misanthrope-Scathing-Presents-ebook/dp/B00J53FZFI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396141562&sr=8-1 To check out our sister show, The Skepticrat, click here: https://audioboom.com/channel/the-skepticrat To check out our sister show’s hot friend, God Awful Movies, click here: https://audioboom.com/channel/god-awful-movies To check out our half-sister show, Citation Needed, click here: http://citationpod.com/ To check out our sister show’s sister show, D and D minus, click here: https://danddminus.libsyn.com/ To hear more from our intrepid audio engineer Morgan Clarke, click here: https://www.morganclarkemusic.com/ --- Guest Links: Check out The Skeptic here: https://www.skeptic.org.uk/ Check out Nighlightr, the gay atheist rapper, here: https://open.spotify.com/track/0WsYwHAECjniE8JRV98JbL?si=rCBInB8MTk2CEKmGxCDVhQ --- Headlines: In his new book, Michael Cohen says Trump mocked evangelicals after a prayer in 2016: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/09/06/michael-cohen-in-2016-then-candidate-trump-mocked-evangelicals-after-a-prayer/ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/06/us/politics/cohen-book-trump.html This Brazilian Gospel Singer’s Family Life Has More Twists Than Any Telenovela: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/09/06/this-brazilian-gospel-singers-family-life-has-more-twists-than-any-telenovela/ Catholic Priest: “Christians can’t be Democrats” https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/09/07/ignoring-trumps-corruption-priest-claims-true-catholics-cant-be-democrats/ Coach Dave Likens Mask Requirements to Racial Discrimination: https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/dave-daubenmire-likens-businesses-refusing-him-entry-for-not-wearing-a-mask-to-racial-discrimination/ Christian Preacher: God Watches You Watch Porn and “Waits Till You Reach Climax” https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/09/03/christian-preacher-god-watches-you-watch-porn-and-waits-till-you-reach-climax/ Sheriff resigns for using racial slurs, blames Satan and his love of Jesus: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2020/09/arkansas-sheriff-forced-to-resign-for-using-racial-slurs-claims-devil-made-him-do-it/ Christian School Expels Straight-A Student for Being Openly Gay https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/09/02/christian-school-expels-straight-a-student-for-being-openly-gay/ Mark Taylor: Handlers “with umbrellas” controlling BLM protesters: https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/mark-taylor-says-protesters-are-mind-control-victims-doing-the-bidding-of-people-with-umbrellas/ --- This Week in Misogyny: Christian leader pleads guilty to battery for slapping reporter’s ass: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/09/04/christian-leader-who-slapped-reporters-butt-pleads-guilty-to-sexual-battery/ Jesse Lee Peterson warns men off of smart women: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/09/02/christian-host-avoid-smart-women-since-you-have-to-consider-their-sexual-needs/ Catholic man sues over no-fault divorce law: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/09/05/catholic-man-sues-to-overturn-no-fault-divorce-law-after-wife-requests-divorce/

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I'm Eli Bosnick. Back up, back up. I was nice to you. I'm Heath Henright. And from John Travolta's New Jersey, Cincinnati Swing State, and Good Husband Georgia, this is The Scathing Atheist. On this week's episode, Michael Cohen knew Trump was an atheist before it was cool. Michael Marshall, editor of The Skeptic, did COVID.

And Michael Marshall will be here to argue that he did not, in fact, do COVID. Yeah, he did. But first, the diatribe. It's really weird when they bring up the Bible now. Like, I'll be honest with you, I got into a lot of arguments about what the Bible said and didn't say way before I'd read the thing. I mean, I guess there wouldn't be much point in pretending otherwise, since you can still go back in the archives of this show and listen to me do it. But I figured it was fair since the person I was arguing with invariably also hadn't read the Bible. Sure, we were two

blind people arguing about the color of a dish towel, but I still trusted my sources more than theirs. And for reasons that are probably obvious, it was way less awkward back then, you know, because we would skirt up towards the edge of having to actually know what we're talking about. But then we would back away mutually. But nowadays, I just I run up to that edge. I dive off. I get a mile or so down. And then I look back up at the precipice and I see them standing there admitting that they just mostly only read the parts in the chick tracks.

That makes it really fucking weird because the bible doesn't just say shit they don't know about it doesn't just lack the things that they think are there it's not even the kind of thing that they think it is right like based on the disparate sentences their pastors cherry pick for them they get the impression that it's some kind of collection of wisdom mixed with some aesop's fables type parables and some rules to live by. They think it's a collection of stories or a repository of moral pronouncements or an examination of theology. And while a clever enough pastor can pluck out a couple dozen sentences that would reinforce any of those misconceptions, nobody could read any significant percentage of the book and maintain them.

See, the problem is that the Bible isn't pretending to be what all these christian leaders are pretending it is you know ask a christian what the bible is or what it's about and you'll get descriptions that no objective person could attach to that book you know set aside the literalists and shit who would call it the perfect word of god think one of those uber flimsy liberal definitions that settle for like, you know, divinely inspired effort to understand God's nature or something. I mean, yes, it's not divinely inspired, but beyond that, it's not an effort to understand God's nature. It's a story about a guy who made poop bread. It's a list of people's great, great, great, great grandfathers.

It's a letter from an ungrateful house guest that thinks you could have been a bit more accommodating. At no point could it even be mistaken for the thing that virtually every Christian will tell you it is. But most Christians don't know that because they've never read the damn thing. And even many who have read it don't know because they were told what it was so emphatically and so often before they read it that it never occurred to them how different it actually turned out to be but consider the disparity right the authors of the bible clearly had no fucking clue that people were going to be reading this shit thousands of years later and it's patently obvious as you read it like the parts where it invokes physical evidence for a story right like everybody piled up a rock to commemorate that

moment and even today you can go to the river and see that pile of rocks well you know set aside how dumb the oh yeah well then where did this pile of rocks come from argument is and consider the fact that they were writing that shit thousands of years ago like needless to say that pile of rocks isn't there anymore that river's not there anymore in many instances. Now, obviously, you wouldn't write something like that if you were divinely inspired by a perfect being, because a perfect being would know this book is going to be around thousands of years later, you know, after people have decided to move those rocks. But it also isn't something a person would write if they thought that they were divinely inspired, or if they even had the vaguest notion

that people were going to be reading this thing for a long time, or even if they thought that they were divinely inspired, or if they even had the vaguest notion that people were going to be reading this thing for a long time, or even if they were contemplating the nature of God, the question they're tackling isn't what is God or how should we live in the world? It's where the fuck did that big pile of rocks come from? It should come as no surprise then that people who dig into the book, trying to find answers for questions,

unrelated to rock pile origins come up wanting. Of course, on the rare occasion, I find myself arguing the Bible with a Christian these days. They're generally not going to be deploying the most liberal possible definition for the Bible. So I find myself arguing with people who actually want to argue that it's a book of answers handed down from on high and authored directly from jesus and nazareth with a goddamn quill pen and sure that's an argument i can win but like i said it's awkward as all hell when my knowledge was limited to you know but yeah but what about these passages that don't fit your description we could dance around that for quite a while but now my argument is you might as well have just called the bible a potato. Right? It's harder at that point to find a comfortable place to land because, A, where do you even start the the Bible isn't a potato argument?

And B, what possible middle ground are you going to land on between random collection of old papers religious people had and potato? Right? To be clear, if atheists had the opportunity to rewrite the bible for the express purpose of making it hard for our opponents in an argument to defend i don't think we'd change a goddamn word so the argument can't even be about interpretation they have to argue that the book doesn't say what it says and i guess anybody can see how that gets awkward real quick. Joining me for headlines tonight

are the Lizzie and Gordo to my Miranda Heath-Enright and Eli Bosnick fellas. Are you ready to tell me what the hell I just referenced? Oh, as if you didn't know. Heaths are Gordo. yeah okay and eli's definitely a lot like hillary duff that's i've always said that lizzie mcguire classic that's in our lead story tonight in snitches get riches news right fantastic convicted felon graduate of the prestigious thomas m cooley law school of western michigan

and guy who needs to adjust the aspect ratio on his face a little bit a lot a lot michael cohen just released his tell-all book entitled disloyal a memoir it's the story of his time working for donald trump as a fixer because donald trump is a perfectly innocent man who needed a dedicated attorney to fix legal stuff as it came up as a company who has one of those i want to emphasize how totally plausible that is all kinds of reasons that one could have that well turns out that yelling the N-word during casual conversation is not covered by attorney-client privilege. And also, you know, Cohen already got disbarred for the felonies, so I guess it's a moot point. So we got a not-at-all-surprising glimpse into the giant lie that is the presidency of Donald Trump. And that includes the giant lie that he's a Christian

who deserves the unwavering support of the evangelical community that got him elected. Well, OK, wait, wait. Either he yells the N-word during casual conversation or he's not the man the evangelicals wanted.

It can't be both, Heath. Yeah, Bic. That's a good point. So I haven't read the book, but the New York Times got an advanced copy, gave us a little preview. And here's a good point so i haven't read the book but the new york times got an advanced copy gave us a little preview and here's a few highlights i'll start with a lengthy section from the book apparently about race with the following topic sentence from michael cohen as a rule trump expressed low opinions of all black folks and then a whole section about that and apparently that low opinion

includes calling Nelson Mandela a bad leader and also challenging Cohen to quote name one country run by a black person that isn't a shithole at which point Cohen mumbled something about Obama and America and Trump was like get out

it was historical for all intensive purposes. Eminent domain, whatever. I could care less. And that brings us to the part that should actually have an effect on the election and change the minds of Christian people. But it won't. I mean, if information could change the minds of Christian people, there wouldn't really be Christian people.

But here's hoping it might affect their voting behavior a little bit. Cohen described Trump's meeting with a bunch of evangelical leaders right before the 2016 election, during which they all laid their hands on Trump in prayer. And after they all left, Trump said to Cohen, can you believe people believe that shit? Which is weird because based on who we know was in that room, he could have said it to half of them and they would have been like, right? They brought me a jet, dude. A jet. Right.

You got to get in on this. It's really. So, Michael Cohen, we know you're listening, mostly because you're under house arrest right now, which is our current business model. So first of all, fuck you for making me agree with one single sentence from Donald Trump. I don't like that. I had like,

I don't believe people believe that shit. Also that ankle bracelet. It's probably super itchy. Like, like I imagine if you're able to stop thinking about it, it's probably fine. But if somebody reminds you about it, that's got to be just several hours of scratching it raw with a ruler. Like, just getting in there. Down to the bone.

For sure. And in use your exclusion news tonight, Wisconsin Reverend and Archbishop of the Freeman of the Land Diocese James Altman went viral over the weekend with a video claiming that one quote cannot be Catholic and be a Democrat, period, end quote. A position somewhat undercut by the plurality of Catholics voter registrations. administrations so to be clear according to pew 44 percent of catholics are democrats compared to 37 percent that are republicans and one of those catholic democrats of course is the goddamn presidential nominee it's no big deal yeah jfk catholic it's okay yeah but none of that matters to altman who declared them to be illusory scotsmen by way of abortion being baby murder declare them to be illusory Scotsmen by way of abortion being baby murder.

Hey, Catholicism, just a quick idea. What if you guys focus on the welfare of kids with an age that's positive for now? Right, yes. Just really drill down on that internal policy. Figure that one out for yourselves. And then you can go and do the negative numbers once you got that all set.

Right. So in his batshit rant, Altman declared climate change to be a hoax said all democrats are going to hell and perhaps most unbelievably of all claimed that the catholic church was a moral force he also included this amazing dig he's talking about how godless our politicians are over pictures of nancy pelosi and joe biden. And he says, quote, we can see in so many godless politicians in the godless educational system, in the godlessness of so many sheeples. Yes. He felt that word needed pluralized. Yeah. I think the word he's looking for is shpersons.

Shmoose? Shmoose. Shneeses. All right. So Schmoose. Schneeses. All right. So, but anyway, the quote goes on. The godless of so many sheeples that are most definitely

serving him, they are not fulfilling their purpose in life. End quote. Oh, man. I really hope the Speaker of the House listens to the

self-proclaimed virginal head of a Nazi gold-funded child rape cabal and and you know makes something of herself right yeah exactly yourself out there of course the the crux of his argument is that catholics can't belong to the party that supports abortion rights in fact he goes as far as claiming that when catholic democrats get to the pearly gates of heaven there will be quote 60 million and counting aborted babies standing

at the gates of heaven barring your democrat entrance end quote really it sounds adorable that's a that's a weird defensive line interesting just running most of them will be so small you can't really see them you're gonna be stepping on them going oh shit i'm so sorry i'm so sorry you're the size of a matchstick though so all right you hit that a gap really nice but of course as many outlets have pointed out in conjunction with this story abortion rates actually go up under republican policies of you know closing planned parenthoods abstinence only education opposition to birth control, etc. So even if your goal is reducing abortion, you're still better off with the Democratic Party.

Yeah, obviously. But if you really want to make that game of Red Rover at the pearly gates challenge, I guess keep voting Republican. Tough call. Tough call, because that could be fun. Okay, group question. I'm pretty sure i could

fight my way through 60 million fetuses right i do not think that's true it would take me a while and you're gonna be sticky at the end but this this is not a duck-sized horse's situation exactly exactly well especially if it's all of us with all the democrats versus 60 million come on the fetuses don't stand a fucking chance. Kamala is just leading the charge. You just follow behind her like Mean Joe Green. Yeah, no, she runs like a lead blocker. You're fine. You're plowing through that.

So yeah, you can most definitely be a Catholic Democrat. And look, nobody's more disappointed than me, Jimmy. I would love it if they had all seen your video and they thought, fuck fuck you're right and demanded a refund for their contribution to the cemetery maintenance fund but yeah it turns out that you just managed to be wrong for a catholic priest which though impressive doesn't make you matter sorry bud and next up in headlines thousands of people are yelling a misquoted passage from the Constitution at a minimum wage retail employee right now. That's true.

You can hear them in a seashell. That's certainly happening. And by Constitution, I actually mean anything from any of those, you know, old timey America papers, whatever. I hold this truth to be self-evident. whatever. I hold this truth to be self-evident. One of those people is Pastor Greg Locke, screaming at the front door of Dunkin' Donuts that

he won't wear a mask, but he will blow someone for 28 creamers and 28 sugar packets. But this week's winner for being detained the hardest by a mask policy is Coach Dave Dobenmeier, who went into a cell phone store and refused to wear a mask because a mask policy is Coach Dave Dobenmeier, who went into a cell phone store

and refused to wear a mask because a mask policy is just like a segregated lunch counter refusing to serve a black person. What is the question? Yeah. Hey, I can't wait to read his screed in my own poop

from an Alabama jail. I think it's really moving. Yeah, so the whole thing was confusing for the staff at that store because Coach Dave normally yells about how the retailer he's visiting should be refusing black people if they want because that's basic freedom.

But this time, segregation was apparently a bad thing in his rant, so it's confusing. Right, to be fair, that was the first time you told us for sure whether he was for or against mask policies. I got there eventually, but yes, it's tricky. So here's how it all went down.

And this is according to Coach Dave. This is him telling the story on purpose from his perspective. His side. Yeah. So he walked into a T-Mobile store, which is just too perfect. Done.

I'm done. It's already the best. Too fucking perfect. Coach Dave's platonic form is a T-Mobile cell phone holster. Like that's him. So he walks into the store looking to get a holster

for his holster or his collection of holsters or just underarms inside with the cowboy thing, whatever. The guy at the desk starts to politely remind him about the mask policy. And Coach Dave immediately yelled, I ain't wearing no mask. At which point I'm really hoping the T-Mobile guy said, oh, great. That fits perfectly with our policy of not not wearing a mask. So we're all good.

Either way, Coach Dave continues. i know the mask doesn't work i'm not wearing it that's bearing false witness you know i for one appreciate all the work he's doing to ensure that karen doesn't become just a sexist stereotype. He's Darren. He's all the way Darren. So, Coach Dave invokes the ninth commandment about symbolic mask lying that we all know about

or eighth depending on which stupid fucking version of that thing. And the T-Mobile guy says, okay, you know what? Don't worry. We actually had to set up

an outdoor work area just for people like you. That's a real thing that we've had to do in the retail sector. I'll build your fucking meta holster out here. And that's when Coach Dave did what he was put on this earth to do. He demanded to see the manager? Yeah, that is correct.

He demanded to see the manager. So the manager comes out and Dave says, Ma'am, I have a heart condition. It's medical. As opposed to recreational. As opposed to the non-medical heart conditions, apparently. I don't know. It's medical.

I think I was born with this medical condition. I'm not sure. I think I was. Would you refuse to serve somebody because they're black? Sorry, that was supposed to be rhetorical then i remembered i live in ohio so let me let me rephrase that what i love is that he can't wear a mask because that's bearing false witness but by his own admission he can lie about his medical history yeah right oh coach dave you never cease to amaze me. Yeah. And again, just to be clear, that was Coach Dave telling his fucking side of the story.

Yep. In which he, the guy who said mixed race marriage is wrong because seals don't fuck rhinos at the zoo. Yep. That guy told the manager of a T-Mobile store that she's a segregationist as the good guy in his story on his show. And this is my favorite part. He explains how the manager stormed away at that point. And then he added, ruin my whole day,

which I fucking love. I'm assuming he never got that holster and ended up severely hurting himself trying to cope with, you know, unfamiliar pocket technology. And in holy sea news, turns out that Jerry Fulwell Jr. might have been more godly than we think

as he sat in the corner and watched his wife get fucked by the pool boy because this week, Rasta-themed Joe Rogan impersonator Pastor Todd White. Ooh, ooh, Todd White's back. Yes. He took to YouTube to let us know that god watches you yank it and yes he watches you come does he you know what i like to think about all

the other people coming at the same time as me you know like it's like yeah it makes you think about the world like we're all connected right like humanity wait if we're all connected i'm pretty sure that makes eli like the all father. It does. It does. It's true. So for those unfamiliar with Todd White, do yourself a little favor.

Stop the car, get off the treadmill, whatever you're doing, and Google this human. You feel like a lot of people are on treadmills right now? Yeah, some of them. Well, our listeners. One or two are on the treadmill. Anyways, he is a walking, preaching reminder Well, our listeners. One or two are on the treadmill.

Anyways, he is a walking, preaching reminder that, damn, we really got to get on YouTube one of these days. He made it onto our show for the first time last year when he claimed to help grow someone's short leg back to regular size. And imagine the kind of altruism it takes to use your body fixing God powers on somebody else's leg while your head still looks like that. Yeah. That's a lot. That's a lot.

Anyway, since then, he apparently found a mirror and has really decided to, you know, commit to saying shit that's as silly as he looks. Well, almost as silly as he looks. Yeah.

Because this is what he had to say about pornography this week. Quote, your whole pornography thing, you think like no one knows about it? God's watching it with you. He waits till you reach climax. Okay. Interesting. He waits. All right.

Well, fun game for everybody. If you edge it for a while, you know, I feel like God's going to get kind of impatient. He starts tapping his watch. Like, fun game for everybody. If you edge it for a while, you know, and you're like, God's going to get kind of impatient, starts tapping his watch. Like, come on, man. I got places to go. I got other porn to watch

and wait for people to come. Yeah. So for this next part of the quote, I think he's talking as God. Not sure. If he only knew me, if he only desired to know me, I would be his climax.

You get an honorable mention. Fantastic. Just got on a casting couch like, all right, well, I've got plenty of step kids. Get into the show. But there is good news here. I am pretty sure I just figured out the reason for the problem of evil if Todd is right. Because I don't know about you guys, but if I was God and I had to watch Todd White climax, I also would have sent out COVID and murder.

So, yeah, I'm a Christian. All right. Well, now that we also have to rinse out our mind's eye, we're going to take a quick break and hand things over to my lovely wife lucent a man wrote the bible a horse which one if it's a legitimate rate cooking can be fun hey i'm proud of a man this week in massager okay so it's been a little while since the last time we chatted and i don't want to pop back in and immediately drop bad news on you so we're going to open up this week on some good news. You remember that video

that went viral last year where the TV reporter was broadcasting from the marathon and some motherfucker grabs her ass as he jogs by? And you remember how we later found out that that guy was a Christian leader because of fucking course he was? And that he lived less than 100 miles from me because of course he did well that asshole pled guilty to sexual battery this week that's right savannah georgia resident pitman park united methodist church youth minister and man whose name church and hometown should accompany every story about this ever tommy calloway was sentenced to one year on probation, a $1,000 fine, and 200 hours of community service for the infraction. Despite his bullshit claim that he was aiming for her back and his irreconcilable claim that he was just trying to wave at the camera.

Anyway, glad to see this asshole was punished for such a blatant violation of a woman's bodily autonomy. Christian leaders are still allowed to do that, of course, but only through legislation. But as bad as his crime was, I'm not going to go so far as to say that there's no ass that should be slapped in public without consent, because my next story is about Jesse Lee Peterson. And if I ever run into him at a TGI Fridays, who the hell knows what's going to happen? But yeah, that ass had a few things to say about the dangers of smart chicks. He warned his listeners to avoid them at all costs because, quote, educated women, they don't make for good wives. If she's educated, even the sex is boring because you gotta, are you okay? Is this movement right? Am I working

too fast here or too slow? You gotta talk them through it, end quote. So yeah, I guess Jesse Lee Peterson saw how much meme mileage Shapiro got off of bragging about his inability to pleasure his wife and thought he'd try for a little himself. But for whatever it's worth, I think the problem is overblown. By definition, there's no danger of smart women dating your listeners, buddy buddy and speaking of misogynistic assholes Nebraska always so easy for me to segue into a story from there see Nebraska is one of the 17 states where all divorces are no fault that is nobody has to provide any kind of grounds or anything the very fact that you want to file for divorce is seen as plenty of evidence that the marriage should end which is so spectacularly reasonable that obviously only a minority of U.S. states would do it.

And Michael Dykus would like to see that minority even smaller, which is why he's sued in an effort to end no-fault divorce in Nebraska. The Thomas More Society, the professional misogynist cabal funding this asshole's defense, claims that the law is unfair because, quote, Nebraska's no-fault divorce law allows one spouse to declare the marriage dead, and the courts rubber-stamp that without giving the other spouse an adequate chance to argue why it should be preserved, end quote. Yes, the entirety of this man's defense relies on the idea that the state might know better than his wife whether her marriage is worth preserving and before you write this off as just some crazy asshole following legal motions i should point out that this was just heard by nebraska's supreme court so quick before some judge rules i need the legal reason to end this segment i'll bid you a fond farewell

and hand things back over to noah heath and Eli. Thank you, Lucinda. And in pigot news tonight. Thanks. We have a story out of Arkansas, so obviously it involves racism, Christianity, and a piggly wiggly. Piggly wiggly. Yep. It begins when one Desiree Middlebrooks had the audacity to have a pleasant interaction with a piggly wiggly employee, even though he was black. So after witnessing that, Arkansas County Sheriff and father of her child, Todd Wright, decided to verbally abuse her in a tirade that included a lot of uses of the N-word, which she caught on tape and then posted online

because he can go fuck himself with a sharpened spoon. But in a public hearing, in response to local outrage over the comments, Wright insisted that he can't be a bigot despite what he said on account of him belonging to the correct religion. So yes, he defended himself from the charge of bigotry with different bigotry. Yeah, don't worry, guys.

This is a common mistake. I'm not a bigot. I'm a Christian. Okay, I heard it. I heard it. Have'm not a bigot. I'm a Christian. Okay, I heard it. I heard it. Have you been listening to scathing atheists? A lot of people get confused if they listen to scathing atheists.

So during a quorum court, whatever the hell that is, Wright argued in his defense, quote, I'm a Christian man. I read my Bible every day. I am by no means a racist, which statistically speaking, reading your Bible every day means you're more likely to be a racist, which, statistically speaking, reading your Bible every day means you're more likely to be a racist. Anyway.

Yes, it does. You also just said I was only following orders. Quorum court isn't exactly Nuremberg. He continues, that video does not show the true picture of me. End quote. Because you know how you're more genuine when you're saying the things

that you have to say to keep your job than you are when you're in the privacy of your own home it's like that listen i just mispronounced the name of the store it was just i was trying to say the store's name over and over at the african-american yeah right yeah it's an honest mistake see this is cancel culture gone mad you can't yell racial slurs at a stranger anymore without mild consequences for your position of power. I'm a speaker at the RNC. But perhaps sensing that his daily Bible studies weren't getting him off the hook,

he also offered angry residents an alternative scapegoat or scape half goat anyway in the form of satan prince of darkness after listing a number of black people whose last names he knew and everything he pointed out that the real culprit was the devil and and just in case that excuse wasn't ironclad enough right also pointed out that some of his best dead friends are black what yes actually so among the scattershot excuses he flung at the wall was the fact that he was upset with Middlebrook

because she had made him late for his black friend's funeral. What's happening? Oh, gosh. I can't be late for my black friend's funeral. Oh, okay. Five hot sausages, but then I'm headed right to my black friend's funeral. Who stops at a

Piggly Wiggly before a funeral? I need some cracklins for my funeral. I needed a new shirt. Funeral snack. A funeral shirt and a funeral snack. They got a t-shirt. Very tasteful. It's got a tuxedo on the front.

I can also buy one that threatens to kill you for dating my daughters. It's a twofer. Anyways. You guys have been to Arkansas, right? Say the name of the store again. Nope, nope. And in not straight enough A's news. High school

student Devin Bryant was supposed to attend his senior year at Covenant Christian Academy, a private school that he's attended since before kindergarten in his hometown of Colleyville, Texas this year. However, despite his straight A report cards, just before classes began, Bryant was expelled by the school's new headmaster for being openly gay. Fuck your face. But I got to say, in fairness,

Devin's being gay did cause that lake tsunami that sunk all those MAGA boats on the traffic. Yeah, that's fair. You know, it got even a little bit. Sorry, but we are afraid that we're just not going to be able to resist the Magna Cum Laude jokes.

They're just going to flow right out. We're going to have to ask you. Yeah. And we have got an absolute buffet of things that should piss you off about this story. So first of all, this is totally legal. Yep. Yeah. Not just legal, but enshrined and defended in the Supreme Court legal.

Thanks to all those people who didn't vote for Hillary Clinton. So, yeah, in 2020, a kid got kicked out of school for being gay and the official scholarly position of the U.S. Supreme Court is sucks to suck. Yeah. No, and if that's not exciting enough, this is also ensuring that we get to pay for it with our tax dollars.

Our money will go to that fucking school. Okay. Okay. But Democrats got that message and we nominated a super progressive candidate. Totally worth it, right? I feel like Devin gets it. Yeah.

Devin's cool. Devin's cool. But you actually don't have to be mad about the big picture stuff. Oh, I do. Yeah, you do. Okay. So you do have to be mad about that.

But you can also be mad about the simpering bullshit letter that headmaster Dr. Tony Jeffrey sent out to the rest of the school describing his decision as, quote, one of the most difficult decisions I have ever had to make in my 35 year career as a private Christian school administrator, end quote. Not adding because nobody kicked the shit out of me for doing this. I can't stress enough that it's someone had or if i had even suspected someone would punch me until i pooped for doing this i would not have done it because i'm a coward at the deepest possible

level you included the word poop so i wouldn't edit it out clever well played well played eli it's so weird though because like if you get the answer right it's not a hard decision at all really no really not at all to decide then but don't worry the story does have a happy-ish ending at least for devon devon is now in public school where for the moment at least he can't be expelled for being gay fingers crossed and when his new principal saw devon's story make national news he actually called devon and his family to welcome them to his new school and assure him he'd be safe. Nice. Nice. And finally tonight, in putting the

um in umbrella news, Mark Taylor didn't get sane since the last time we talked about him, I had hopes, but no. Self-described firefighter prophet and cinematically described guy who refused to take his psychiatric medication right before he started talking to demons

Mark Taylor has taken his timeline to the YouTube to explain where the remote controls for the Black Lives Matter protesters have been hiding this whole time turns out that Antifa has cleverly disguised them as umbrellas

hey guys that guy over there, he's holding a mind control button, I'm pretty sure. Let's get out of here. Wait, no, never mind. It's just an umbrella. We're fine. We're fine. Okay, but it really says something about you

when in the year of the plague and the murder hornets, you've got to make up Manchurian candidate teenagers for it to be weird for you, right? Right, yeah, exactly. It's so hard for the conspiracy theorists now. Yes, in his appearance on the Eli had to make a name for a batshit crazy right-wing conspiracy YouTube channel

on the fly for an improv bit named Red Pills 78. Red Pills, my birthday. Taylor offered his thought-like products on the blm protests i know i know many of you might have bought into the official story of these being protests inspired by outrage against police violence an illusion all the more convincing for those of you who are actually participating in the protest but it turns out that no it's nothing that benign. According to Taylor, quote, the MKUltra, it only takes like an hour. There it is.

There, we found it. They have it down to an art. They have it down to a science. They will fragment. Yeah, make a fucking thing. They will fragment your mind into a hundred pieces, and each piece is separated with a disassociated wall of amnesia so they can program each piece.

The programming is in you. Yeah, seems inefficient. End quote. Yeah, that would be a problem without those walls, though, I guess. Oh, he ended with the programming is in you? No, he stole the catchphrase from my Steve Jobs animated feature. Great, great. Now, Stevie's great journey is going to be delayed till 2022.

Great. Great, great. Stevie's great journey is going to be delayed until 2022. Great. All right. So Taylor, in his capacity as both a firefighter prophet and a brain fragmentation expert, filled in a few of the details as well. In one of those quintessentially 2020 moments when he added, quote,

these guys in the street can't be reasoned with. You can't reason with someone that's being mind controlled. Do you notice the guys in the street with the umbrellas those are their handlers what that activates the program what that does the umbrella reminds them and activates the violence programming end quote to break through his psychosis for a second what he's referencing is people using umbrellas to counteract tear gas canisters that were being thrown at them. Yeah. So what happened is

Mark Taylor saw people getting tear gassed and thought to himself, probably getting pissed off by those umbrellas. Those are mind control. I can't think of what might be upsetting

those folks. Now they're probably going to shoot me from that grassy knoll. Yeah, they moved down. So, yeah, it looks like we're going to need a new signal to switch on our relentless protest zombies now that he's figured us out,

which, honestly, it was overdue. I'm thinking this next one shouldn't be something that spurs accidental riots every time it rains. So now that we have an assignment, we're going to close the headlines for the night. Heath, Eli, thanks as always. Do Monji. And when we come back, Michael Marshall will be here to make it sound like I'm friends with a beetle.

Hi, I'm Heath Henright. I'm no illusions. And I'm Eli Bosnick. You know, with just 53 days till Election Day, there's never been a better time to check your voter registration status. time to check your voter registration status. And we know you're certain that you're all set come election day, but statistically, some of you are wrong about that. Which is why we've created you have to fucking vote dot com, which will forward you to a website where you can check your voter registration status in less than 30 seconds. No reminders to set, nothing complicated to remember. Just you have to fucking vote.com.

Because you do. You have to fucking vote. No matter where you live, no matter what you read on Twitter, you have to fucking vote.com. You have to fucking vote.com. Because we can't wait to stop talking about this either. I'm very excited to welcome back my next guest. Michael Marshall is the host of the Be Reasonable podcast, the co-host of Skeptics with a K,

the project director of the Good Thinking Society and the reigning skeptic of the year, according to an organization that he is heavily affiliated with. And as of last week, his skeptical resume got that much more impressive as he took over as the new editor of The Skeptic, the UK's longest running skeptical publication. Marsh, thanks for joining me, man.

Hey, thanks for having me on the show and for running through my entire resume, my curriculum vitae there, just in case anybody wants to hire me for another job, then they know exactly everything that's about me there. Right. No, yeah, you've got room for a few more, plus a monthly spot on GAM. And yeah, what the hell else are you doing with your time? Exactly. Exactly. There's a pandemic on.

No one's going anywhere. It's fine. Exactly. So, OK, now, first of all, are physical magazines still a thing in the universe? Or is this just an online venture now? So this is an online venture now. It has been a physical magazine since 1987. So I'm taking over a ship

that's been sailing for 33 years, which is quite cool and quite, I can feel the weight as well as the privilege of that. I'm quite excited about that. But we're going to be online only under this new stewardship. We are thinking it is possible in the future.

We may even go back in print format once we kind of test the waters to make sure that we've got a really solid readership here. Because I think people can stumble onto the website and we're going to be putting out stuff regularly on the website, you know, a couple of stories a week at least from writers from all over the UK sceptical scene. And I think people stumble onto that

and can find something based on a particular topic that might kind of catch their eye and catch their interest. But there is still something to be said about seeing the thing on the shelf. So one day we may return to print medium. But for now, we're online and we've relaunched this kind of hub of skeptical analysis that I'm really quite excited about. Right on. Okay, so I want to put this clarification right up front because in this instance, a definite article makes a world of difference. You're the editor of The Skeptic, which is a British magazine, not Skeptic magazine out of the US. Are the two affiliated? They're not affiliated at all, nor are we affiliated with The Skeptic in Australia. It just happens that if you're in an English language country and you're going to put

together a skeptical magazine, calling it The Skeptic or calling it Skeptic seems like the natural choice. So we've all converged on a similar name there, but they're entirely separate entities that I suspect is a confusion that I'll be clearing up

throughout my tenure as editor. Yeah, you guys will all be getting each other's hate mail from the, no, it'll be great. No, speaking of which, do you want to talk some shit about America's skeptic magazine? You want to start

a transatlantic flame war? There's a lot of shit to be talked about those guys. Well, I mean, what I will say is there will be no space in The Skeptic, the piece that I'm going to be

going to be leading. There'll be no space in there for a 3,000 word review of how brilliant Milo Yiannopoulos is. And we won't be featuring extended worshipping of the conceptual penis hawks as a fantastic bit of skepticism because we're going to be skeptical of that and actually look at the biases involved in putting those

things together. So what we're trying to do is kind of the feel that a lot of the projects that I and my colleagues at Merseyside Skeptics have, because the skeptic, I'm going to be the editor, but the publishers of it are the Merseyside Skeptic Society. So it's everybody, the whole team at the MSS and my colleague, Alice Howarth is going to be the deputy editor. And so all of the projects that we really work on from QED to Skeptics with a K, to Be Reasonable, to the various kind of activist stuff we've done like 1023. All of those things really try and showcase the compassionate side of skepticism. This idea that skeptics aren't pure logical, pure rational, devoid of all biases robots that some people

like to think we are. That I am a man of pure logic and reason and I can use reason and facts to destroy the people I disagree with. And I think that whole approach is kind of bullshitty, and also completely fooling yourself if you think you don't have biases. So the best that we can do is to say, I'm going to examine my own biases and see how much they play into it and try to minimize the impact of them. But I'm also going to appreciate that I'm human and fallible. The people I'm talking about and disagreeing with are human and fallible. And the vast majority of people we disagree with aren't evil. They aren't stupid. They aren't gullible.

They aren't idiots. They're just wrong. And some of the people we disagree with will be evil. And those people need to be handled in a different way. Oh, I'm American. Yeah, no, it's... Yeah, but the majority of people we disagree with are just wrong. And being wrong isn't a crime.

And shouting at them about how wrong they are won't necessarily help. So we're going to try and showcase the compassionate side of skepticism, this kind of compassionate skepticism that I really wholeheartedly believe in. And I think in that regard, we may be different from some of the skeptical outlets you see and some of the sort of skeptical writing you see in other more established places in certain parts of the world and certain parts of certain countries. Well, that's awesome to hear because I long believe that you're not doing skepticism right if you're not turning it inward first. And there is an overabundance, I would say, of people in the skeptical movement who do the exact opposite, right? Who get into it for exactly the reason that you're saying so that they can tell somebody else how wrong they are and forget to look at their own information, forget to look at the sources that they agree with, forget to look at the things that they want to be true with that

same skeptical lens. And so that's very heartening. That's really nice to hear. Do you think we're going to see any other major changes under your editorship? Well, I mean, what we are looking to do is to take on quite a lot of new writers. So I've been very fortunate that the fact that I work for the Good Thinking Society and the Charity for a Living, and I do a lot of traveling around the UK and occasionally around the world, meeting people who are really into skepticism and are doing some fantastic work in skepticism. The fact that I'm able to do that means I can find people who I think are doing the kind of skepticism that I want to show'm able to do that means I can find people who I think are doing the

kind of skepticism that I want to show the world and tell the world all about. And I've been able to reach out to a lot of those people. And some of my colleagues at the MSS have reached out to a lot of those kind of people to say, would you write for us regularly? So the idea is a lot of those people that I think are doing fantastic work in skepticism who might not normally have been a voice in skepticism, who might not normally have had a platform outside of their own kind of thing they've made. It might not have always been considered to be mainstream skepticism, but they're absolutely skeptics. They're going to be writing for us quite regularly. And so we've got some fantastic articles coming up, not just from across the UK. And we've got writers like, well, Pixie Turner,

who's obviously been on Good, Awful Movies. She's going to be writing for us a lot about nutritional myths. We've got just loads of people from the UK, but we've also looked a little internationally in places you might not necessarily have thought. So in Brazil, there's a huge need for skepticism right now. And there are some fantastic people doing some absolutely brilliant work. And two of those people are Natalia Pasternak and Carlos Orsi, who are running the IQC, the Institute for Questions of Science in Brazil. And they're going to be writing for us regularly about not just skepticism in Brazil, but skepticism from that perspective of what is South American, Latin American skepticism like? What does it mean to be a skeptic when you've got the culture around you of Brazil,

which is a very different culture from the UK. And it's a different culture from the English language first places we'd normally hear from. And I think we can be very guilty in the skeptical movement of thinking that skepticism is an English language phenomenon, that it happens in Australia and America and the UK. But there's fantastic work happening right across Europe, for example, but we don't hear about the wonderful, wonderful work that's happening in Italy because we don't speak Italian. And so we don't go looking for it. So we are looking to have a bit of a broader eye to Europe. And I guess people whose work is skeptical, who might not necessarily have deemed it that way, who might not necessarily have worn that label. And maybe for some of those people, they might not have worn that label because they've looked at what they think a skeptic seems to be. And they've seen the kinds

of people who wear the badge of skeptic as that kind of sort of truth that I am a skeptic. And I think that's why we do want to go in this direction of looking a lot more about applying skepticism rather than just pointing out why people are wrong. Because you're absolutely right that you get people who come into skepticism in part because they just want to be right. And they can have this attitude occasionally of, you know, I am a skeptic. Now point me at something to be right about. You know, the people who assume they are right because they are a skeptic and therefore completely fail to address their own biases and things. And that leads into all sorts of problems. Instead, what we really want to be looking for is, I'm a skeptic, which means I'm going to try

to be skeptical as often as possible. I'm going to fail because I'm human, but I'm going to fail a lot less because I'm trying than if I wasn't ever trying because I assumed I was infallible. So yeah, there's a few things we're looking to do, but I think the voices we're trying to put out and the topics we're looking to include, which I think the voices we're trying to put out and the topics we're looking to include, which are kind of outside of your everyday skeptical topics at times, is kind of what we're looking to do. And to showcase that skepticism is a really broad non-church and a really vibrant community of lots of different people with lots of perspectives. And we want to show off some of that, really. Yeah, well, you brought up Pixie Turner,

who is a great exemplar of exactly what you're talking about, right? This is a person, for those who aren't familiar with her story, who got into this as a person who was pushing the woo, who was pushing a lot of the same food woo that you'd get off of a food paper. Gwyneth Paltrow decided to educate herself on it, realized she was doing it wrong, realized that she had the facts wrong, and then shifted gears without ever insulting her former followers or former bands on Instagram or anything and just started putting out the true instead of the false without any judgment or anythingtheist because The Scathing Atheist is not an outreach show. We're here for the atheists. We're a place to go when you're sick and tired of dealing with all those people and you're like, oh, my God, those motherfuckers.

But it's really good to have resources like the one that you're putting out there to be able to put in the hands of somebody who is, you know, like you say, a reasonable but misinformed person. Yeah, I think that's it, really. And as you say, Pixie is a great example of that. You know, Hayley Stevens, who was a ghost hunter until she really spent, the more time she spent hunting ghosts, the more she realized she wasn't finding ghosts, the more she realized there were better reasons for it.

And then she carried on being a ghost hunter, even though she knows that she strongly feels it's unlikely that there are ghosts. So she could try and explain the things that people are seeing. And I think that style of skepticism is so valuable because it is approachable. It is something that if you were misinformed in some of these areas and you stumble across what is a fairly straight, fairly empathetic, nonjudgmental approach to explaining how we

know what is and what isn't true, or how do we know what might not be and what might be true, you know, in those kinds of ways, I think you're much more likely to change your mind. But I think that idea of having compassion for the audience and even, you know, the stuff you do on scathing, you guys will call people assholes and you will insult people, but there is undeniably a core of compassion all the way through what you're doing. You're not doing it from a position of, I am better than everyone else. You're doing it from a position of, let's all try to be better. And if people aren't trying to be better, that's the thing you're calling out. And I think that's kind of, it fits in the same kind of way of the intention of the skepticism is that it's really, in many ways, getting the

right answer is the easy bit. And people see that as the entire journey. I've got the right answer on this, the end. But really, that's the easy bit. The hard bit is being able to spread that right answer. And even further than that, being able to spread that right answer in a way that people will actually listen to. Those are, I think, the most important things we can be doing in skepticism. And that's what we're trying to do, really, is to put that information out in a way that people will hopefully be receptive to it.

Yeah. And I mean, let's face it, in the skeptical world, in the atheist world, basically we're trying to be, you know, the things that get us into it, at least the most visible aspects of it, are us getting the easiest fucking questions imaginable, right? You know, like, does Bigfoot exist? Is there a god? Are aliens really the answer of what came and visited this redneck from North Dakota? These are pretty easy questions.

Yes, absolutely. So, okay, so you mentioned that the skeptic began in 1987. And that's disturbing for me because that forces me to reckon with the fact that 1987 was 33 years ago. And I'm very old because I remember that really well. Would you say, like, how have the challenges changed for skeptics in the last three decades? I know that's a huge question,

but from your perspective, looking back at what the magazine was focused on when it first began. Yeah, I mean, obviously, I haven't read every single issue of it, largely because I was four in 1987. But having looked back at the style of skepticism and the topics, I think I've always had this idea, the longer I've been

involved in skeptical activism, I've kind of developed this idea that when skepticism really first kicked off, it was things like Bigfoot, and it was Uri Geller bending spoons, and it was aliens and psychics. And it was that kind of paranormal stuff, you know, the fringes and the ephemera of society, the kind of the fantastic little corners. And it was that kind of paranormal stuff, the fringes and the ephemera of society, the kind of the fantastic little corners. And I find that stuff really, really exciting and really interesting. And I think skepticism, those were by and large the topics that skeptics covered for a long time. But over time, that started to shift and it started to shift towards medical misinformation. And I think when I first got involved in skepticism 10 or 11 years ago,

medical misinformation was, I would say, by far the most prominent type of pseudoscience that skepticism was addressing. And I think that the skeptical movement changed in many ways around that. Because prior to that, it had been magicians and physicists. And physicists saying that the moon landing happened and aliens aren't visiting us, and magicians pointing out the way in which Uri Geller was bending spoons without using the power of his mind, or at least only using the power of his mind

to control his hands and his feet as he was bending the spoons. But once things started to move towards medical misinformation, I think the skeptical world kind of upskilled and changed its skill set to include a lot more people who are doctors and surgeons and scientists from a much more biomedical area. But I think even the last 10 years, skepticism has changed again. And it feels like the pervading pseudoscience of our time is conspiracy theory, which still covers the fact that aliens are visiting us and 9-11 was an inside

job. And it still covers the fact that they've cured cancer, but they don't want you to know about it. But it feels like it's something else. And I don't necessarily know who the go-to set of people are for combating conspiracy theories. We know who would study conspiracy theories, and there are psychologists who understand the psyche and the psychological makeup of people who are more prone to believe in conspiracy theories. But that's being able to identify the fire rather than necessarily identify how to put the fire out. So I think that's what we need to be really looking at, is what are the techniques you can use to dismantle those conspiracy theories? And I don't know necessarily that it is just a case of, when it comes to medical conspiracy theories, just pointing out actually

that cancer is this, and this is how we treat it and this is why cannabis oil isn't the miracle cure and big pharma aren't suppressing it. I think there's something else we need to be looking at. And I've tried to be exploring that area more and more, the times that I've been spending with flat earthers and on Be Reasonable talking to people who believe in all manner of things. But it feels like that's where skepticism is right now, is the world is conspiracy theory. We had QAnon marches in Liverpool just last week. That's insane. I saw that in The Skeptic, and I was blown away. That's made it across the pond. Yeah. And what really blew my mind, it's a small detail, but I think it's really telling, is that they were carrying placards saying, you know, save our children from the pedophile

Satanists or whatever, but they'd have pedophile spelt in the American way. Well, that's really interesting because it shows you where you're getting your source of knowledge from at that point, that even a word that is very well known in England, and you'd spell it the American way because that's where your cultural influences are on this. you'd spell it the American way because that's where your cultural influences are on this. But how a QAnon conspiracy theory, as ludicrous as the QAnon conspiracy theory is, it is so mainstream right now. And if and when a COVID vaccine becomes available, we'll see just how mainstream it is because we're going to have to fight a real anti-vax movement even to get a COVID vaccine out. So the fact that conspiracy theorists aren't just huddling together in small groups

in dark corners of bars talking about how JFK was assassinated, but are actually your auntie on Facebook sharing yet another meme about how Fauci is actually paid by globalists behind the WHO and how Soros is responsible for it all and Bill Gates is responsible for it all.

That's conspiracy theory now and it's everywhere. So I think that's where we've got a lot of work to be doing. Yeah, it's really amazing to think of the way that, like you said, you know, when it's medical misinformation, you can just go to doctors, but now you're forced with conspiracy theories to have this scattershot approach where you have to have, like you just look at 9-11, right?

You're going to have to have structural engineers to knock down parts of it. You're going to have to have people with aviation expertise to knock down parts of it. So in order to hit these conspiracy theorists, you just have to have sort of a bevy of experts in everything. But I think that's true. But even then, you can have structural engineers to knock down parts of it, but you don't knock down the movement because the detail that people bring out to tell you why they think the Twin Towers was a controlled demolition, the detail they bring out to tell you that might be about structural engineering, but that's not why they believe it. That's how they're trying to persuade you to believe it.

It's the same kind of thing with religion. You go through the Bible and they say, well, this particular point about the Bible must be true for these reasons. That's not why they believe it. So you can debunk that point and they'll just move to the next because the reason they believe is actually something else. And I think that's where we kind of miss a lot of this is we can spend a lot of our time, to use a sports analogy, playing the ball, not the man. You can carry on going forward, taking out the detail of the argument they're bringing, but they've got a thousand other arguments that they believe in just as little because really the reason they're bringing, but they've got a thousand other arguments that they believe in just as little because really the reason they believe in it

is something else. And if we can't get to that nub of something else, the real reason they believe this extreme theory, then we can knock down the cardboard arguments they put up left and right, like a shooting gallery at the carnival, but we're never actually getting to the hub of what they really believe.

Right. No, that's a great point. So just proving once again that the job is infinite and we don't know how to do it, but we're still fucking away. But I mean, I'm optimistic. I am optimistic. Yeah.

We're going to try. So obviously I encourage all of our listeners to check out Marsh's work over at skeptic.org.uk. You're going to find that linked in the show notes. And Marsh, thank you so much for what you're doing, for the time you're putting into this, and best of luck with the new venture. Thanks a lot, man. Thanks a lot. Before we save and quit tonight, I wanted to let you know that the book is still a thing, and it actually has a title now and a sort of vague publication date-ish thing.

It's going to be out early October. That probably means first week of October, we're thinking. And it's called Outbreak, A Crisis of Faith. And thanks to Heath, it also supports this amazing subtitle, How Religion Ruined Our Global Pandemic. That's good. That was heat. That's good shit.

We're going to have a publication date real soon, and when we do, I'm going to be hitting you up to pre-order it, so look for that coming, hopefully this time next week. Anyway, that's all the blasphemy we've got for you tonight, but we'll be back in 10,022 minutes with more.

If you can't wait that long, be on the lookout for a brand new episode of our sister show, The Skeptocrat, debuting at 7 a.m. Eastern on Monday, and even a new episode of our sister show's hot friend, God Awful Movies,

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