The Sevan Podcast - #107 - Dallin Pepper

Episode Date: August 19, 2021

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All I got to make sure is I don't look at the YouTube video because it's at a different rate. Pop out chat. Now I can see what all the peoples are saying. Dallin Pepper. Oh, that's cool. He's been on the show now for two minutes. And we haven't greeted him because we like to keep it all awkward until it's live. Thanks for coming on, dude.

Yeah, of course. I'm excited to be here. Have you ever met Brian Friend? I know I've never met you. Yes, I have met Brian a couple times, I believe. Hey, Katie, it's a little early for smart talk, all right? Wait, a guest showed up. Yesterday, our guest didn't show up, Dallin. For real? In 117 shows, that's the second time that happened.

Yeah, Robert Guerrero didn't show up. He's fighting on the Manny Pacquiao card this weekend. I don't know if you're a boxing fan or not, but I'm really glad you showed up. To get two in a row that didn't show up would be brutal. We'd have to pack up turn it over to the crossfit podcast or whatever's going on it's pretty um don't mention them again please um it's pretty remarkable the transformation you've gone in in in in four or five years yeah i'm lots bigger um growing a lot in a lot of different ways so how old are you right now i'm 19 and do you remember when you first made your very first

instagram post i usually have that information at my fingertips yes so i actually started a separate instagram when i started crossfit because i didn't want the kids at school to make fun of me oh but i do remember the first one yeah oh i like that tell me about that how old were you and like why would they make fun of you this is good we're already getting good so i was like big into baseball and football and i would have been 13 or 14 probably when i made the first post on like my crossfit instagram which is the only one i use now um but like just a fitness account i just all the kids already made fun of me for eating vegetables and working out all the time i'm sure they thought it was cool but i was still self-conscious about it and wasn't confident in that.

And so I made a separate account and then I started posting CrossFit stuff there. So basically they would just, it wouldn't be like me making fun, but they'd be like, oh, Dallin thinks he's buff or look at Dallin got a new PR. They'd be right here.

You are just trying to be low key and just document your journey and they would just be taking the piss out of you yeah it's like oh man any time I'd walk into any room it's like oh Mr. CrossFit like all that and then like once I started going to the games and stuff like I I had more confidence in myself to know that they did think it was cool they were just giving me a hard time liked me and wanted to be my so my own. Right. That's the stage I'm in with Brian. I make fun of him, but it's really I just like him and I'm just having trouble expressing it.

Yeah, of course. I think he's pretty cool. It is an interesting thing in a high school setting, though. There's a few teenage girls that train at our gym regularly. Came to the gym the other day and she goes, I think that a CrossFit champion is in my high school class. train at our gym regularly, came to the gym the other day and she goes, I think that a CrossFit champion is in my high school class. I think you're right.

It was Nate Ackerman. She's like, it's so weird. I never thought of him as a CrossFit kid, but now everyone's calling him the CrossFit kid. And that's just... Absolutely. Who's Nate Ackerman? You know who that is dylan yeah he won the 16 17 division he beat my athlete by one spot so oh damn yeah but you'll show him yeah for sure you'll make it to the games before him yeah um how did you find crossfit why did you start doing it um so like i said said, I was playing baseball, football, basketball, basically any sport.

And my parents, my dad started at a gym with my uncle. It was like 30 minutes away. And so basically too far to make sure the kids could. Can you guys hear me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Make sure the kids could get ready for school and all that so my mom couldn't go. I got some gym equipment for the garage, and they're like,

hey, you should start working out. It'll make you stronger for all these other sports. And I was like, no, that sounds pretty stupid. I'm not going to work out for fun. I'm just going to keep doing my thing, going to practice and all that. And then I saw the 2015 CrossFit Games, and I saw that was the first year they had a teenage division. And I watched Angelo and Nick Palladino and all those guys.

And I immediately said, I want to do that. And the day after the games ended, I started training. Why were you watching the CrossFit Games in 2015? Did your dad have it on TV or something? Yeah, so my dad had gotten into CrossFit, and he watched the Froning film. And he's like, hey, you should watch this. And I was like, oh, yeah, I'll get to it. And then he just had the games on one day.

I think that year was ESPN. I could be wrong. But then he's like, you've got to watch this. There's this teenage division. They're all just a little bit older than you. And then I just fell in love with the idea of competing and like watching the froning documentary and how like I mean the celebrations and like how hard it is to become the greatest I just love that idea how much do you think it had to do with the fact that you saw something that your dad liked and you wanted to do something to make your dad happy you're like okay these people are doing this and

my dad likes it so if i do this my dad my dad will like me more not in a bad not in a bad way i'm not saying that like you're in a natural way i'm not saying like you're starved for your dad to unlock you and take you out of the basement yeah no um i think with like other sports because that's what my dad did growing up i found more more of that probably when I was younger, I was like, Oh, my dad really likes this. Like my dad coached me through baseball, basically my whole childhood. Um, he was a big football player too. So like all of that stuff played into it. But then, um, more like spending time with him and out in the garage that like I wanted

to do. So, and then, uh, and, and and was it just just a trajectory straight up from there like you're like holy shit this is dope and you just haven't looked back you're how old are you now you're 19 yeah so it's been just four years of crossfit oh it's about six six five or six now yeah okay but when i first better than mine when i first started it was like random workouts i didn't know anything about programming or anything I could see something on Instagram or I'd make up my own and I probably didn't even do all the reps every time and then I played football that fall and then I actually

started at a gym January 2016 so that was the that was when i really got into it so and by jimmy mean a local affiliate yep and which and what was the name of that gym spanish fork crossfit and you're still there i'm there i'm at their that gym and nebo crossfit and they're like three minutes apart so and what what city state is that spanish fork utah And what city state is that? Spanish Fork, Utah. And Nebo's in Salem, Utah. And you're Mormon?

I am. And you're married? Sure am. Damn, you're checking all the boxes. Utah, married, Mormon. Yes. Dude, do you know how easy you're going to make it on Heber and Mars if you start really doing good at the games because i think they might live in utah also yeah they're like an hour away yeah imagine if you could just win the games knock maderos out and just become the new guy

they could just fucking just think of how much more time they could spend with their family and their kids only driving down an hour yeah just come they just come down, except I'm moving. Oh, where are you going? I'm moving to Florida. For training? Yep. So I don't know, you talked to Phil Toon, right? I did speak to him. I really enjoyed speaking to him, too.

My coach, Matt Torres, lives down in Naples, and me, Emma Carey, Phil Toon, Paul Grishabert, James Sprague, and one of my buddies, Ethan Tate, were all moving down there. Wow. Emma's going to be outnumbered. Yeah, but she's pumped for it. She doesn't want, she's, like, my coach asked her, like, do you think we should get, like, another, like, older veteran female to come down?

And she's like, this might be a dumb question, but, like, why? She has, like like no desire to train with any of her competitors at all i kind of feel similar but with the atmosphere and relationship i have with these guys it's very different so i'm not too worried about it i think i just started filming matt torres at filming did i say filming following Following. That's your coach? Yep. He's at brute strength. He's been... I would consider him a branch of brute strength

for a while now. How old's your dad, Dallin? Oh, man. Is his name Joe, by the way? Yeah, is he on there is he commenting already he's downstairs oh joe pepper yeah i just looked up and saw it no yeah james james has weighed in already as well yeah there we go yeah i think my dad's like 44 i could be wrong and he'll let you know in two seconds on the that's crazy that your dad's younger than me.

That's bizarre. He must have been absent the day they taught about contraception. Camila Jaskowska, great black and white profile picture. She gave us 25 PLN. That's probably some electronic currency. Oh, she really liked that my kids went to a jiu-jitsu tournament. That's probably some electronic currency. Oh, she really liked that my kids went to a jiu-jitsu tournament. That's cool. And then some guy named Serginho

gave us 10 British pounds. Another great guest. I'm assuming he means you, Dallin. From the guy about... And then I don't understand the rest of it. Actually, it's a decent question

for Dallin here. he's curious in general about whether uh athletes when they're really young like maybe 10 to 14 15 years old were more likely to burn out but reach the early 20s than someone who might have a more of a back sports and start training cross it more specifically a little bit later on I think it depends on how you approach it and like your mentality as a teenager and a young kid it's definitely different than most kids my age but short answer no I think you can do it but keep playing other sports and you can still train hard in CrossFit I ended up playing baseball and football. I played baseball my junior year of high school and football my senior year just to like I just wanted something a little different and that was like my one chance to do it so I

just jumped on it but I think kids can definitely train CrossFit hard but continue to play other sports. What is burnout? That's a great question. I mean he is and i don't know all of the specifics you know but some of the like nick paladino who just didn't want to invest everything training anymore and wanted to have a little bit more balance in his life and i don't know what george sterner is doing now but that was another guy that he brought up who was obviously very good didn't compete last year maybe he will this year i don't know just people who want to pursue other things in addition to or instead of say like age out or you know move out of their house yeah so one thing yeah i

thought about this a lot uh one thing i see is obviously the females are making a much faster transition into the individual division and we have seen a couple male athletes that were great as teenagers and even George had a couple years with the individuals it's taking longer and you see some of them just kind of falling off and just ditching the sport I think one thing is like the stress of like financials like you can't have another job if you want to make it to the CrossFit Games. And if you want to win the CrossFit Games especially. I'm sure that was all of their goal at one point. And luckily I signed with Cooper. He's Daniel Brandon, Josh, their agent. And he's put me in a spot where I can continue to

compete without that stress of financials any of that type of stuff and i think that would have something to do with some of those guys you're 19 do you feel like an adult yeah i've always felt like an adult since i was like 14 wow what what how did that happen like why did you feel like an adult at 14? Well, not like feel like an adult in a bad way or anything, but the way I viewed life and stuff. My dad always calls me an old soul. When we'd go to big family parties, like I'd hang out with my cousin some, but I just wanted to hang out with my dad, really. I don't know. I've just always been that way.

Yeah, that's a trip. I was thinking about that today. What do I do? I didn't feel really like an adult until maybe I was in my 40s. Definitely when I had a kid, I was like, oh, shit, I better pay these bills on time. I mean, don't get me wrong. I still don't know what I'm doing. I'm just faking it, and I think that's how everyone is but yeah yeah yeah of course but i just i'm just impressed like you're married you are moving out to a training camp is i assume your wife's going

with you to florida is she is that like um you do you guys talk about that how does that come up in conversation no she's she's awesome she actually has basically changed all of her life plans with school and everything to make this happen so she got into a really competitive radiology program um right when we were talking about going to florida like when my coach called me about it and she said no to that and changed her whole degree and now she's actually uh nutrition certified and doing nutrition coaching for all of my athletes and clients that I coach through Pepper Programs. Dang. And how old is she? She's 20.

Oh, okay. Wow. I'm just so impressed. And her parents don't hate you for changing her course and direction and what she was doing? They're like, oh, geez, this guy's trouble. I think at first, because their family, her sister's in nursing school right now, and so that was kind of the road she was planning on, and that's what she loved. But she's way more excited about this, and her family definitely was like, why would you say no? You got into this super competitive program. And like, if we want to go to Florida, we should definitely go now, like, while we can, for sure. The, I'm guessing that there's a lot more money

in radiology, but in nutrition, there's a lot more actual benefit that you're actually helping people. Radiology, I mean, and I'm gonna get in trouble trouble for saying this, but you're really just part of the problem. You're just part of the escort team escorting people to the grave, for the most part. I know 5% of the people who use the hospital really need it, like they got a broken bone or something. But the other 95%, they needed a nutritionist, and they didn't have one, and now they need a radiologist.

And for the most part, she would be working with broken bones but she always said like her whole goal in life is just to help people and yeah what what better way to do that than through helping people eat better when did you realize you were strong so you start crossfit at like 13 14 when do you realize that you're like oh shit i'm i'm actually pretty good at this um it kind of happened slowly I think there wasn't ever really a time my first open was 2016 I'd seriously done CrossFit

for three-ish months and I took 112th or something in the open and I was 14 and I was like okay if I continue on this trajectory I should be able to make it if I just give everything so I just trained as hard, I should be able to make it. If I just give everything. So I just trained as hard as I could every single day.

And then when I took fifth in the Open the next year, that's when I realized, like, oh, you have a shot to win the games for sure. And that's kind of the process that it took. Some guy just said Joe sounds like a good dude. Stuntman Mike, thanks for the five bucks. But Joe's his dad. We have no idea if he's a good dude uh stuntman mike thanks for the five bucks but joe's his dad we have no idea if he's a good dude the guest is alan pepper and we know he's a good dude but if you guys want to give money because he's got a good dad i mean that's cool too um what's your mom's name her name's janna janna and joe pepper. And do you have siblings? I do. I have four younger siblings.

Oh, wow. Yeah. So you're blazing the trail. And what are they? Are they boys, girls? It's two boys and then two girls at the end. No twins? No twins.

Bitch, do it. Your mom had five kids. Sure did. She's a trooper. Dude, that's hardcore. Do you have any older cousins, or are you, like, the oldest of them? On my mom's side, I have two older cousins. They're, like, four and six years older than me or something.

And then on my dad's side, two older, and then there's, like, four boys my age. And it's cool because it's, like, four boys my age, and then four boys my brother's age, four more boys and then there's like four boys my age. And it's cool because it's like four boys my age, and then four boys my brother's age, four more boys my other brother's age. And they're all within a year, all of us. Oh, wow. So you guys have – The kids our age, yeah. Family get-togethers, I'd imagine.

Yeah, absolutely. When you started CrossFit, did you have like armpit hair? Had you started going through puberty? I think so. I think I had some armpit hair i'd be i'd be curious i mean what a what a cool thing to be doing as you go through puberty as your hormones kick up well that's people were like how are you so big it's like i've been going through puberty and spending six hours a day in the gym and eating as much as i can yeah and and

do you feel um um, are you a slow mature or fast mature? Do you think you have a lot of years left of maturing or do you feel like you're pretty far through puberty or like, cause for me, it felt like it didn't stop till I was in my twenties. I felt like it started when I was 15 and didn't stop till I was in my twenties. Yeah. I mean, I grew faster than a lot of kids. Like I don't, I'm not going to get any taller or anything, but I definitely will still grow into my body. People have old man strength, and they're not even older, like 25.

With the squat and the deadlift, all those guys can lift way more than me in those lifts, and I think that's just a matter of time. Can you grow hair on your face? Do you shave? Yeah, I do. It's still patchy. It gets long, but there's little patches.

Not very often. Yeah. I mean even even look at maderos when's the last time you had a pimple do you have any pimples did you get pimples yeah i still have them you still get pimples yeah man holy shit 19 can you remember what it's like to be 19 brian i can yep and did you have good eating habits and sleeping habits and training habits uh two years prior to that no but by the time I was 19 I did yeah straight and narrow at that time playing collegiate soccer and I was just trying to you know I wasn't anything great but I was trying to be as well conditioned as I could to do to perform well in that sport did you ever swerve off the path down like did you have you been to rehab or have you ever been to jail or no

I'm like straight as board basically I'm pretty boring like like you have you never thrown an egg at like onto a highway like a highway full of cars driving by or something when I was like with my baseball team we throw water balloons and stuff at cars. Ah, water balloons.

Yeah. One kid grabbed a dog toy, and he threw it way too hard, and it made a very loud noise, and we ran as fast as we could. Ah, the old running. Joe, did you know this, that you had a son who was a delinquent?

Okay, so... How tall did you say you were? I'm six foot. Do you have any, and how much do you weigh? About 220 right now. I competed at like 215. And, um, when did you start, um, did you ever eat poorly? Do you still eat poorly? Like a lot of these guys, like I, it's a little harsh to say that they eat poorly, but especially the younger athletes, you know, um, rich Matt specifically, you know, they, they could in their younger days, they could eat more of what they want. And as they get older, they would, and they would say that. And then as they get older, you see, okay, they're, they're tightening down their diet. And I'm just wondering if the new generation is like seeing

what they're doing, the older guys are doing is starting to tighten down their diet. And I'm just wondering if the new generation is seeing what they're doing, the older guys are doing, and starting to tighten down their diet a little ahead of time. I mean, I eat pretty clean, but for the most part, it's like calories in. Around training, I'll eat fruit snacks, applesauce, Powerade, and I know you hate their refined sugars or whatever. But yeah, other than than that i eat pretty clean in season and and basically in how many times a day are you working out i usually have two sessions okay and you're just and are you just sweaty all the time yeah it's gross it's pretty cool actually

don't worry you'll get used to it it actually gets better as you get older it's good it makes you realize you're alive i didn't like sweating when I was 19 either. I mean, I don't mind it, but it's like puddles. I know Rich talks about how much he sweats, but I think I could give him a run for his money. So if you're on the rower and you were to row 10,000 calories, is there just a serious... 10,000 calories? Is there like just a serious like – 10,000 calories? Sorry. Sorry.

Thank you, Brian, for listening. And you rode 10,000 meters. Would there be like enough water under there like a small fish could swim in it? Absolutely. Because that's – yeah, that's how it is for Rich too. It's crazy. You know, the next time you talk to him, say he did 10,000 calories. Oh, Colton. My mom was so excited that we had him on again okay let's uh i want to dig into this year uh dallin and talk about uh what what happened um

are you devastated are you okay with it tell me process. Walk us through, and don't try to hide anything because Brian's here, and he'll call you on it. So let's start with the Open. So you entered the Open. How do you do? And tell me about this journey, if you don't mind. And if you are going to cry, Brian can tell the story. So just go, you go, Brian, you go. I got you.

Yeah, so about a year ago, I decided I was going to qualify for the CrossFit Games this year. That was my mindset going into things. The Open went pretty well. It was by far my best finish. I did bomb one workout, well, two workouts, the last one. But it wasn't a big deal because I wasn't focused on it. Just did every workout once.

I finished right around 100, I think. And that was my goal going into it. So I was pretty happy with that. So 2000. Finished one place ahead of Travis Mayer. Oh, perfect. Exactly. Oh, I hate you, Dallin.

I hate you. So at least we got Travis's name in the show. So 2021 Open, were you 18 or 19 at the time? 19. You're 19 years old, and you finish 100th place in the world, 95th in the worldwide CrossFit Open, beating the legend Travis Mayer. Okay? Good start.

It's a good start. Yeah, then, I mean, we started the quarterfinals. Kind of wanted to make a statement there so I could get into the final heat of whatever semi-final um attacked that they were great workouts really good for me um especially proud of like a handstand push-up workout i did pretty well on that one um i need to get stronger front squatting obviously it's pretty crazy i hit like right under my one rep max for four reps and i still got like 580th or something 481 yeah 481 this is not this is not uncommon like his total number of points in the quarterfinals was 590 and 481 of them came from the four rep max front squat which is why i've

always said that that four rep max front squat I'd rather see a test like that at the next level when there's a smaller competition field bigger field of thousands of competitors it's just you know yeah you might not be as good at that as other things but you're punished really really severely for it obviously he still did well enough to advance but just in general, these things. What did you lift for your four rep front squat? Was it like 357 or 52? 352.

Okay. And then how did you do in the quarterfinals? I think I got like 32nd or something. 31st, two spots ahead of Phil Toon, four spots ahead of Jason Hopper, and well behind Travis Mayer, who was first overall. Good job, Travis. That away.

Teach him. Teach Dallin for coming at you. Okay, so that's good. You did good. And how did you do in the quarterfinals, Brian? I was the last place in North America, man, who participated. And what place was that? Actually, I don't know.

Let's find out. This is fun. I was striving to try to fail. I failed to hit any snatches at 185. It's 4,032nd place. And he took 32nd? And Dallin took 32nd? 31st or 32nd, yeah.

So he beat you only by 4,000 places. That's pretty good. Mike Baglio. If Dallin made the games this year, I think he finishes top 10. There were some events that would have been great for him. True or false, Brian? Top 10? Yeah.

Noah Olsen was 10th. I think Dallin could have made the cuts in this field. It's hard to say. There's so many things that could happen.'m there i need to i need to prove it but oh don't let him off the hook down and don't like don't let brian off the hook the pressure is good for him to clarify my comments i'm on i comment seven i also have a son and if a boy likes hanging out with his dad his dad must be doing something right with his son father's involvement in son's life is paramount yeah joe's probably screwing it up, though, by coming in the comments.

Darren probably loved hanging out with him until this video. Now Joe's in the doghouse. Okay, so are you happy with your placement in the quarterfinals? Yeah, I was stoked with it. It was really good. It was exactly what I was hoping for. Got me into the final heat. And were you kind of like, yeah, I beat Hopper.

Fuck that dude. Well, no one knew who he was. Oh, right. Okay, good point. See that, Jason? No one knew who you were until we made you famous. Okay, so then you go to... I didn't know who he was. Okay. There's some crazy sounds in the back is your um does someone have a fan on or i'm gonna mute mine tell me if it changes it

no it's it's i think it's down uh you have a fan and dallin has a um like it sounds like the star trek enterprise is trying to beam him up. Like they've locked on to his. It's okay. It's okay. People have gotten used to it on this show. So from there, so then you do your, the semifinals. And let's talk about that as I pull up your semifinals.

Where did you go? Where did you do your semifinals. Where did you go? Where did you do your semifinals? The West Coast. That was a live one? Yep. Was that your first choice? Yeah. Close to home?

Mm-hmm. Easy trip. Drive there. It's like four or five hours. Man, especially this year. If you could drive, I would take that option every time. Man, especially this year. If you could drive, I would take that option every time.

And had you done, how many live competitions had you done before this one? I competed at the Games three times, Suatapalooza twice, and Granny Games once. And then some other little ones. So this was, your nerves were just normal nerves. It wasn't like't like holy shit this is the first time i'm well this down tell me if i'm wrong about this we're all of those as a teenager like in the teenage division so this five competition against the elite field the end yeah i mean the nerves were obviously there if you're not a nervous wreck, then you don't care enough. Um, but it wasn't because I was in a live competition. I love being on that floor.

And honestly, one of my strengths is being on a floor and, uh, like floor awareness, knowing where my competitors are, knowing myself. Um, I feel very confident in my abilities to do that. And you made quite a statement on the first three workouts a second, a sixteenth and a fourth you're missing oh sorry yeah oh holy cow

yeah and were the first two workouts on the first day and that was it second and second yeah so you after day one you were in first place i was yeah yeah i think i i think i remember brian and i talking about that and and in your field above you you that means you were beating cole sager noah olsen sean sweeney will morad i mean you had some some heavy spencer panchik i mean you some, oh man, the Panchik brothers must hate you.

I mean, you had some heavy hitters. Were you surprised that you did so well, or were you like, nope, this is me, this is what I'm going to do? With the snatch ladder was the first event, I knew I would be second. I wasn't going to even try and chase Tola. That would be stupid.

But I knew I was better at snatching than everyone else there. So that one was good. I did surprise myself on the second workout with the thruster leg which ripped them. Okay, can you tell me why? Because I heard you talk about it. Yeah, so just tell us what that was like for you. So like all season, everyone deals with like just mental battles in their head and like one of mine this year was oh you're too tall you're too tall all this stuff and it's a bunch of

garbage uh but to have i mean i'm just gonna say noah's name because that's the first one that comes to my head but to beat noah who's shorter and a shorter guy workout with. I do like. He turned into a robot. Did you get that? I did. Brian. He turned into a robot. Did you get that? I did.

Brian? Sure. You got that? So you had that in your head that you were too tall? You were like, shit, I'm too tall, I'm too tall, I'm too tall? Or you had it in your head like, fuck it, I'm going to prove it on this one that I'm not too tall and you guys can all eat it? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I know the kind Mormon side of you doesn't talk like that.

Sorry, that was the Armenian paraphrase version. No, like, it didn't really affect me because I just, like, blocked it out. And I was like, that doesn't matter. The best is going to be the best no matter what their size. But that was where I could prove it, for sure. This, um, this, I have this thing next to my, um, computer. And it's supposed to allow me to make phone calls. Hey.

Oh, it's weird. Are you on the podcast right now? I'm trying to call Matt Souza. Can you guys hear him? Yes. Oh, you guys can't? Because I can't hear him. We can hear him. Oh. Ask him when we're gonna get laura horvath on matt sues is the producer of the show what's he saying will you ask him that i can't hear him can you guys hear him on youtube i just saw that he popped up in the comments and it's like jesus dude get get laura horvath on already can you hear me? I can hear you, yeah. Am I on the podcast or not?

Yeah, you're... Yes. It's really... I just called him real quick. Susan, are we getting Laura Horvath on or what? Yeah, I messaged her twice and somebody reached out to Brian. And... So you messaged her twice and she reaches out to Brian. And, uh...

So you messaged her twice, and she reaches out to Brian? No, no, no, no, no. Somebody that knew her reached out to Brian. Oh, Matt, that's her brother. I was just talking to her brother. I got again, and I still haven't heard nothing back. All right. Either way, let's get this fixed.

Come on, buddy. Stop listening to the show. I know it's great. And get Laura Horvath on thank you bye okay well that was fun sorry to interrupt down i just saw the guy pop up in the comments he needs to be slapped around a little bit he's enjoying the show so so at that point is any is it creeping in like you're like oh my god i'm gonna win i'm gonna win i'm going to the games holy shit this is gonna to happen. No.

I knew, obviously, like, I knew the run wouldn't be as I was expecting to do a little bit better. We can talk about that. And then I knew the handstand push-up workout would be a bit of a struggle. So I knew, like, nothing had changed. There was only two events, and we had five more. Is your dad at that event? Are your mom and dad there? I had, like, 50 people there oh that's sweet it's cool and and what's your wife's name corinne corinne and so she's there yep and does she know how to handle you like to a t um we definitely learned some things like she knows

how to handle me at home and training but like in competition I basically do not talk at all so that was a bit of a learning for her because I was like the first competition where she was in charge of anything because before it was my mom was always taking care of my food and all that but she took she took care of all the food and just hanging out just being quiet she definitely learned from that and we both did uh but it didn't affect competition in any way no so basically and i guess corinne's not in a um unique place it's a lot of people she basically has to learn that everything at the nothing at the competition is personal yeah at that point it has nothing to do with her nothing to do with your mom whether you're

talking to her or not talking to her it It's nothing she did. Like, you're just doing you. Yeah. And she's got that figured out. Like, that was just like day one, basically, and then she figured it out. Crazy that someone could figure that out at 20. I think most men and women who would be in relationships would not be able to figure that out. They would screw it all up. So you're lucky.

Were you concerned at all that she might screw it up? No. No. I'm out there doing my thing. She knows, like, her roles while I'm competing, and she does an amazing job at it. You met her in high school? Yeah.

We all had, like, the same friend group, hung out all the time, and then I took her to her senior prom, and then we just started dating after that. And so how long did you know her before you got married? Oh, like three years. Wow, that's so impressive. Brian, are you married? Nope. Do you have a girlfriend?

Her senior prom was not the same as yours, Dylan. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, whoo! her senior prom was not the same as yours Dalen sorry I got confused on who we were talking to Dalen back to you no she is a year older than me and then for you going to regionals instead well no we had COVID oh that was your senior year Go ahead. Going to regionals instead? Well, no.

We had COVID. Oh, that was your senior year? Yeah. Oh, that's terrible. I wasn't complaining too much. It allowed you to just focus on your training. Yeah. Probably was great for you. I never was as cool much my senior year anyway.

So you get to this third workout, and it's, what was that? Oh, the ruck run. Tell me about that. 36 minutes of working out. My God, that's a lot. For like a 10th place, that's what I wanted to keep all my events at. And I went out a little too hot because I'd been working really hard on my running. I was like, all right, I want to stay with this first group.

And that was dumb. So I learned from that. And how heavy was the ruck? It was 30, 40, 50, 60, I believe. Or 20, 40, 50, 60. It was like every 1,500 meters it went up? Yeah. Yeah, the ruck was tough the entire time.

But you had to add weight in the term of an external load of a sandbag each on rounds two three and four yeah and how was your headspace after that one that's fine i think that if that if anything the good thing was that you didn't have like a the guys ahead of you were like so jake burnt asked me like going out for the fourth lap and i could tell from his like cadence and his breathing everything like all right he's an extra kid um so tutor was actually behind and we between each of us i just made sure to stick right between them. I didn't have to do that. I mean, I knew I wasn't going to catch Jake,

and I just didn't want Tudor to catch me, so I tried to save him. Yeah, because the way that event ended for James Sprague, that's the way you don't want that event to end, which is like you're sprinting to the finish, and you lose the double negative. In a long event like that if you can just kind of and accept your placement at that point and not have to stress that set last extra couple hundred yards i think that's always in the still in the middle of competition that's a big advantage if you have to sell out and don't get the extra points.

Yeah, and if I was in a group of three, like 1,000%, I'd sprint to the finish and beat both the two other guys I was with or whatever. I just happened to be in a position where I didn't have to. And then even if you were disappointed in that finish, you bounced back strong in the triple G chipper with the fourth place. Yeah, I knew that would be good. And, uh... Oh, man. And then the next two events,

you took a 19th and a 17th. At that point... You skipped one again. Or did we talk about the fourth place one? Yeah, we can talk about it more. I just wanted to get to the bad news and hear what his dad told him. Oh. Hear what Joe Pepper said. this one yeah we can talk about it more i just wanted to get to the bad news and hear what his dad told him oh hear what joe pepper said no yeah i mean so the fourth one went well um the fifth event was actually the event i wanted to win i was gonna be my best finish all weekend um i did it

with echo bike and sandbag it was actually like a 165 sandbag and I beat Frazier's time from whatever year that was. Um, and I would have had the top time at West coast and like, I just did not use D ball and that's what we used. And that's on me. And we're talking about the triple G chipper 17. He fast forwarded through that one. He said said that one and then he got to the regional finale 2017 which was basically echo bike some brookie box jump overs and then a d-ball cleans to the finish which and um we also on would be i don't know if he may win the workout but i figured he'd have a mission this it looked like a great workout for him. Wait, Dallin, you said you beat Matt Fraser's time in that?

Yeah, it was like high twos, like 250 or something. That's about what I got when I did it at home, which is obviously different, but yeah. I'm so confused. What workout are we looking at? In 2017, the regional final, he was looking at Matt's time from 2017. And when he practiced that workout in training,

his time was faster than Matt's 2017 time. And so he knew he had a chance to win this workout at the West Coast Classic. And my understanding is the bike went fine, the burpee boxing bovers went fine, and the D-ball just kind of stopped him in his tracks in a way that he... Even though it was the the same weight the shape of it is what screwed you up thank you brian by the way yeah it's like with a sandbag you can like get your hands in it and it'll like form to your hands with a d-ball it's just like a slick rubber ball and i also on my

ninth rep i sweat a lot and i did wear a shirt which i never do um because i sweat a lot and it actually slipped off my shoulder i got a no rep and it did wear a shirt, which I never do, because I sweat a lot, and it actually slipped off my shoulder. I got a no rep, and it cost me six seconds and basically my ticket to the games. Oh, my goodness. Is it really that close? I'm pretty sure six seconds was like four or five spots. I'm looking.

Dallin Pepper, 319, six seconds more seconds more yep it would have been at least two spots man do you think do you think everyone does that dallin and brian do you think everyone like when the event's over is just like oh my god if i just would have done this i'd be going i'm sure people like think back on it and obviously it's a culmination of the whole weekend so you can't just pick out that one thing like it could have ran faster like could have trained running more and ran faster but yeah i think everyone does some thinking and reflecting like velner looks at event one at the crossfit games and is like holy shit if i would have taken six instead of 36 i'd'd be CrossFit Games champion.

No, he doesn't do that. He's not looking at that event. He's looking at events six, seven, and eight. And he's been forthright about that as much. But, yeah, everyone looks back at the weekend and they say, man, this event, this movement, this rep made this big of a difference. And I can't remember who i was listening to when a games athlete recently talked about it's just a lot of times like you have all these guys have the physical one of them will look back at the weekend and be like if only i'd executed

that a little bit better there that a little bit better there and that's that that's that that gamesmanship and that live competition that you know that's why i don't like the online competitions as much and i don't like the competitions where you can repeat workouts as much part of the sport is the ability to show up when it's your turn and perform under pressure and i mean every workout express the expression of that is different but the guys like any games athlete or even anyone who's been close to making it to the games well this or a couple moments like this close to making it to the games, or a couple moments like this they can point back to and say, I needed that to understand what it means to execute when I'm not.

Dallin, do you think it would have been better for you to go to the games and get the experience, or it's better that you didn't go to the games and you have the fire burning in you? That's a great question i would have taken whatever outcome and made the absolute best of it and made sure i was ready for next year um do you think about that like mornings maybe when you don't want to go to bed or when you're on the bike and there's three seconds left and you're pushing extra hard like oh yeah like if i didn't leverage that i was not okay for like until the games were over honestly like when everyone had a clean slate i was not okay um i like kind of matt like he described it after his like second second place he's like i do not want to work out i don't want to talk to anybody basically just sat in my apartment and just like thought about it for six weeks so

did you did you get but you did punch the ticket for the last chance qualifier right yeah and how did that go uh i thought it was gonna go better than it did honestly um like i did great on one workout i was a little disappointed to see a deadlift uh knowing that's not my strength. If it was something overhead, that would have been great, but I need to get better at deadlifting. And then the last two workouts, honestly, my coach and I both thought some top five scores, and then I was 11th and 14th or something, and so that was pretty wild.

Props to everyone. They smashed those workouts. That's so. Oh, man. What say it? I'm looking. Oh, you took 11th in that.

Yeah. Like it did not go great. I mean, you're with some good people down there. James Newberry, Spencer Pan chick. These, I mean,

there's a, there were a lot of good, a lot of good... It wasn't an easy competition. No. We're just... This should be the last time we review the semifinals or the last chance qualifier because this

just stirs the bottom of Brian's muddy pond up where there's eight guys out there who would have done better at the games than the bottom eight guys. And he sees those names and he's getting all we're getting him all wound up, I think. Am I right, Brian? No, but I'm working on something with regards to that to try to explain why I feel that way. To make it so even more people hate us over at the CrossFit Games.

Beautiful. Thank you. No one hates us over there. I'm just joking. Okay. So the last chance qualifier goes, and basically you say until the games are over, and I like the way you explained that.

I'd never heard it explained like that. Basically, you felt like the competition was still going, but you had been benched. And the second the games was over, it was like a reset. Okay, you're all at zero again. Yeah, it was like this huge relief. I don't know why I was viewing it that way, but yeah, like I wanted, yeah.

Well, it makes sense. It makes sense too, because the second Medeiros wins the games, it's over. And you guys are all tied for first and last place again, right? Now everyone's going to enter the Open and you guys are all tied again. Yep. So the dream just kind of comes back alive. Yep.

And did you train during this sort of these doldrums or did you take a month off? I took the week off after West Coast. Well, the Monday through Thursday. And then I started to get back into things Friday, Saturday.

And then last chance qualifier workouts were the next Monday. So, what, two weeks after West Coast or something. And then practiced some last chancechance qualifier workouts, did the last-chance qualifier, and I basically didn't work out for, like, six weeks. I did some testing and stuff, but... Testing for Dave? No, sorry, for my coach, like, for next season.

Oh. Yeah. Craig White says his parents should have named him Salton. He's probably heard that a lot, but I like that. Sultan Pep. And so, wow. So you really, and did that, I wonder if that just made shit worse, just not working out. No, I did not want to be going to the gym.

You didn't? No. And then the second the games were over, did you watch the games? I was actually there. I was coaching an athlete. Who were you coaching? David Bradley. He's in the teenage division. And how did he do? He took second.

And were you nice to him or were you an asshole to him, just like taking out all your misplaced aggression on him? No, no. I was pretty chill. Did you resent him at all because he made it and you didn't? Well, no. I made the teenage division three times. Oh, good. Okay. It just sounds like a great... He also won it three times.

Yeah. You did win it three times? Yep. I'm pretty sure I'm the only team... A bunch of them have like two wins, but yeah. That's crazy. I think that's right. I think you're the only three-time champion. Because I think Kayla Stefano had won

the last year. Yep. Is that gratifying to win the teenage division? Are you like, holy shit, this is amazing, just stoked? Yeah, absolutely. absolutely i mean if you look at it yes it's not the individual division but that is the top level competition of in the

world of your age division like that's and then you see emma and malcalfe individual but like we'll ignore that part but yes that's the top level competition and i think i definitely trained different than most teenagers um like I was just how I viewed everything like I said earlier um so yes winning was very gratifying and just one made me hungry for more so what do you mean what's unique about your training well I was like my buddy James Sprague uh he took like fourth and fifth so like he did very well in the teenage division and we were talking last week because we were together, and he's like, the first time I met you, I was like, man, this kid is so different.

He actually cares when he goes to bed. He knows what he's eating, when he's eating, around his training, how he does workouts. And that was like his first impression of me when we hung out the first time. So more of that adult stuff. Yeah. Already showing symptoms of being an adult. Yeah, because most kids your age are probably training so that they look nice, More of that adult stuff. Yeah. Already showing symptoms of being an adult. Yeah, because most kids your age are probably training so that they look nice, so that they can attract mates.

Yeah. And they're not doing it for health reasons. When you're coaching David, is that something that you talk to him about? Or do you, as a teenager, it's maybe, you know, if he doesn't want to do those things how to manage his life how he wants and you focus on the training side yeah i think david i think the teenagers are definitely taking it more serious like david definitely put in the time with nutrition sleep he's trained his butt off like he worked extremely hard and did all everything right like recovery but i kind of let that happen naturally like if he had a question I'd answer it and give him as much detail as I could I wasn't like ever forcing it or in the notes of a workout be like hey make sure you get

food in right after this piece or make sure you sleep good just little things like that do you have to force yourself to stay down like if I wake up in the morning and I'm like let's say I only slept let's say I look at my clock and it's only been five hours I have to like force myself to stay down because as soon as I wake up, I just want to get up.

And I would figure at 19 years old, as soon as you get up, you're like, oh, life. And you just want to like jump out of bed and start living. Yeah. Like in season, I force myself to be in bed for 10 hours every night. Holy crap. Yeah. Ryan, do you stay in bed for 10 hours? Sometimes.

Even if you're not sleeping, you're just... Dark room. I usually could get back to sleep. I have a pretty good sleeping setup with blackout curtains. My body still thought it was the middle of the night, and I could almost always get back to sleep. If I really couldn't get back to sleep,'d just get back up but i just wake up but do you nap well not when i get 10 hours of sleep i don't need it yeah that's yeah yeah i and that was just that was just you passed that test if you nap then you know you're really an adult

like i nap that like actually you're past being an adult i think i just skipped and went to old but i can't if i'm in bed for more than like eight hours i start to get bed sores like i can't do it yeah it gets annoying like i didn't enjoy it at all but i know i needed it yeah that's good do you do um you and your wife do you guys live it um with your parents or do you guys have it your own place so we had an apartment there's a guy at our gym who has like a little condo and he was out he owns like a summer sales business and i think he's in chicago which is you live there right brian i do yeah so he was out there um for the past three months and we lived in his apartment he rented out to us and then long story short we were going to move into my grandparents basement because they have a whole apartment but then we decided we're moving to florida so we're just living with her mom for a few months before we go because she has a big

upstairs that we have to ourself oh and do you like that do you like living there yeah it's fine is that like in my culture like an armenian culture like i could i could move out of my house right now move my whole family and with my mom or my dad if I wanted to. Do Mormons, you can do that too? I mean, no issue. No issue. Just family. In my family, there wouldn't be a problem with that.

When we decided we weren't going to go to my grandparents, my parents offered a room. It just happens to be that my mother-in-law has plenty of space and my family does not. Yeah, I love that shit. Family's great. Because all the rest of your siblings are still at home, right? Yeah, all of them are downstairs. I'm at my parents' house right now, so they're all downstairs. And when you guys move in to Florida, will that be the first time you guys live alone together?

Well, we had an apartment for three months like the chicago thing yeah okay we were alone but it was like 10 minutes from our family so and will you guys will you guys drive to florida you'll take your car yeah we'll take her car we're gonna sell mine because it's a piece of trash um and then we'll drive a u-haul out because we're gonna take our coach rented out like he was going to rent out a full new facility and we're all just bringing a ton of equipment down.

Do you have any pets? No. Oh, are you guys going to get a pet? My wife loves dogs and I do too but we're going to give it some time. Everything you say I'm judging you severely, by the way. Oh, yeah, I know.

These aren't benign questions. Oh, good, good, good, good, good, good. Because part of me is like, yeah, you should get a dog. It's like practicing having a kid, and the other side is like, do not get a dog. Just enjoy your time with your chick. We've been having kids for a very long time. Yeah, then don't get a dog. Wait a bit to get a dog, and then wait even longer

for kids. Both of them are overrated if you do them too young. But I highly recommend kids. And I wonder if you'll... Oh man, your parents must be so excited for you to have grandkids too.

Do you think you'll have a lot of kids? Do you think you'll have four or five kids like your parents? Like the little bit we've talked about, it's like three. You'll have three sets of twins for six. Three sets of twins. Could you imagine? Yeah, I would love it if I – I would love to get my wife pregnant again and she had triplets. I hope she doesn't make it this far in the podcast.

Go ahead, Brian. You competed at the Games as a teenager. Is there a camaraderie there that exists or is it mostly like a competitive atmosphere? is camaraderie there that exists or is it mostly like a competitive atmosphere um the females the female teenage athletes do not talk to each other and i've kind of heard the same about the individual um like just rbf like don't talk to each other um the the dudes like we have a lot of fun but also like i play head games with people and like it's definitely competitive but we have a good time what's RBF resting bitch face oh yeah yeah yeah yeah thank you here you competed there there was this guy Amir and whatever happened to that guy do you know he was he was like he was

the only guy all three years you won came to really threatening you in the teenage division and i was curious why he never came back um like one day like we all had like a big group message on instagram and like one day his account just like disappeared and then two years later was there and i messaged him for a second and he like got into like kickboxing or something oh that's cool and like you trained with uh jamie green i think and he like got into like kickboxing or something oh that's cool and like you trained with uh jamie green i think and he only trained like a month before second of the games wow man just an athletic kid yeah where was he from was he from dubai okay and is she she's not in dubai, is she? They're in the UK now.

So tell me about this whole Florida thing. So you're going down there. Matt Torres is your coach. Your agent is the Cooper guy. That's the Daniel Brandon guy. And the Josh Bridges guy. And it's a brand new training camp like this camp has never existed before um we've all trained together like we went down there last december um and trained together but no one's no one with brute has really like moved with their coach at

all so explain the brute thing to me again brute strength is i thought it I thought it's Matt Torres. Matt Torres works for Brute Strength? Yeah, and then he has some athletes that technically aren't part of Brute Strength, I think. But there's Nick Fowler. He actually split from Max L. Hodge. They both did OPEX a long time ago or something. They split because L. Hodge was in Salt Lake with Nick Fowler. And then a bunch of people created Brute. I met my coach at his first Brute camp when I went as an athlete for the first time. And then from there, we just started working together. So help me if I'm thinking about this right. So there's like, there's like OPEX, there's like the May like opex there's like the mayhem empire there's training think

tank there's brute strength they're all basically roughly saying a style of training or training regiment or a nutrition a lifestyle regiment and then you belong to this one that's called brute and torres is a is one of the coaches there? Yes. Yeah, so Naples, Florida Bruce Strength Training So it'll be like the out and training. Oh, that's cool.

Brian, do you hear all those sounds? I'm coming in and out. Just checking. I hope it's torturing you as bad as it's torturing me. Brian, do you hear all those sounds? I do. I'm coming in and out. You do? Okay. Just checking. Just checking. I hope it's torturing you as bad as it's torturing me. Dallin, when you were, was it a difficult decision to hire an agent? What was the process like to make that decision? After the 2019 game,

we have to do that whole thing again take two Dallin try that again Dallin do you think maybe you could I don't know throw your computer in a bucket of water what the fuck is going on with this computer in a bucket of water oh my god dude i promise you in the room next door to you someone's in an electric chair getting killed right now like we can hear it oh man tell your dad this your dad probably is using his like nipple electrocution device in the room next door. Tell him to stop doing that.

Wait until the show is over. Show some restraint. You're crying out loud. I don't even see Dallin. I don't even see Dallin anymore. Another room or something. Yeah. Will you fill the bathtub up with water and get in it for the next

time we do a show with you down down down doesn't he hasn't used any swear words he has his shirt on and he has bad audio it's like hey dude if you're gonna have bad audio you gotta like take your shirt off have so use some swear. It's not everyone else. It's not good. We can hear you now, though. Let's just blame your dad. He's plugged. I was charging, so maybe he's just getting too hot charging.

Oh, yeah, it does sound a little better, like the fan wound down. Okay, answer that question again. What was the question, Brian? It was a good question. Oh, how did you choose your agent? Why did you choose your agent? How did you make the decision to hire an agent like that always you know i think that that's a big decision like chris cooper talks about that right you want to do better as a gym but making the decision to commit to hiring so

with that that's a big step uh imagine that it's similar process to make a decision to hire an agent and how does Cooper get you enough money so you don't have to work I know that guy kind of this podcast is kicking ass and we haven't made a fucking dime we can't get a sponsor for the life of us but these guys don't sponsor us but I'm also going to

plug them anyway and take my shot okay go ahead so tell us about cooper and you and plug with someone i'll plug someone and Are you going to tell him or am I going to tell him? You have to tell him. That's your job. Can anybody hear? Can anybody hear?

I love it when the show just takes a colossal shit. A few times. I feel like if this show were an airplane, a few times it has got off the ground. Down, we just can't hear you anymore. You're just breaking up. If anyone is still listening, could you tell us in the comments, can you guys hear Mr. Pepper? Because we have gone black. I can't see him and...

It's weird. It's the audio that makes me concerned. Yeah. We can tolerate not looking at him, but to not hear him him now the show is taking a dump don't hear him nah I think his whole family is streaming the interview and sucking up all the bandwidth that is a

fucking brilliant that is a brilliant idea I love it nope no audio this show is the funniest shit thanks I don't think that's good that's not a compliment from Steve I don't think I love it. Nope, no audio. This show is the funniest shit. Thanks. I don't think that's good. That's not a compliment from Steve, I don't think. These people that are listening now are the best.

Sian Dunphy, the best audio in the game. Barbell Club, no. Severum, bro, you got to get me one of those Froning 11 shirts. Nope. Sorry, bro. Sorry, Steve. I only have 10 of them. The comments are now going off.

Dallin, what's up, man? No. No? This was probably the question I was most excited to hear his answer to. Me too. I get excited whenever we mention agents. Nick nick of time what's funny is hefner gets hefner gets better service outside the strip club than any guest that there will ever be on wi-fi oh man uh dallin maybe you can go to a different room or something, walk around until your video comes back. Meanwhile, did you know Friday,

so my friend is fighting Half-Thor. Did you know that, Brian? My friend Devin Loret. I'm putting the pictures together, yeah, the pieces together. I didn't realize that until this morning. Yeah, so yesterday I find out that Devin Loret's fighting Half-Thor, so I immediately said, hey, get on the podcast. Come on, and he's coming on Friday.

We get to talk to him Friday. What kind of nut job? I was like, they're never going to find anybody to fight Half-Thor. And the next thing I know, it's my buddy Devin. I'm like, is he out of his mind? But Devin is, I mean, he's 15 years older than Half-Thor. How old's Half-Thor? I want to say 34, and probably Devin's like...

50? 49. Probably 47, 45, 50. Special Forces Canada. I don't know if I'm allowed to say that. Canadian Special Forces. A big, strong, powerful man, but... Should be fun to...

Yeah. Yeah. Well, hopefully it'll be better than... Especially after we heard what BKG had to say about Halfthor. And maybe he'll have better audio than Down. Down, you gotta try to interrupt or something before we gotta... Oh, oh.

Is his video coming back? There's an image on the screen. And he's gone. And you know what? If it were the first time, I would be nervous or embarrassed by that. Of course. Right. I'm trying to walk around, and I switched to a hot spot, but I don't think it's working.

That was nice of him to text us. Some guests just don't even show up. How do I get an unbuyable CrossFit t-shirt? The irony is Greg had these shirts made unbuyable, but then sold CrossFit. So, I mean, I don't really mean you've got to take it for what it's fucking worth. Do you see Sousza's latest comment uh if you guys and if you guys are enjoying the audio quality please take a moment to like and subscribe suza you shouldn't be even listening to the show get horvath on can you just put give send horvath a link right now and we'll continue the show part two i think that would

be awesome if we did that okay guys before i check out and head off to the show, part two. That would be awesome if we did that. Okay, guys, before I check out and head off to the skate park, Brian and I want to tell you a few things. Brian, you better think of something good to say. Tomorrow I'm going on Chris Cooper's podcast. The next day we'll have Sam Briggs on. The day after that we'll have Devin Lorette on. And that's all we have scheduled this week.

Man, maybe we should do someone on Wednesday too. Do you guys want to get someone on Wednesday? No. Okay. Today is a very important day, though. We should update everyone on this because Travis Mayer is back to training. Oh, where did you see that? He posted on Instagram.

It might have been yesterday. But now he's back full force, ready to get after the next season. And I feel like we need to report that. Do you want me to see if I can call Travis Mayer? Yeah. Let's see. Travis. Answering and not training you could hear tell him my preseason rankings for next

I wonder if I can I wonder if I can FaceTime him onto the podcast I wonder if I can FaceTime him onto the podcast. I mean, we FaceTimed up. We had people in before. Yeah, but I'm trying something fancy now. That thing you do with Sousa where we could hear him, but you could not?

Yeah. I call the guy. Everyone else can hear him. He didn't answer. He didn't answer. New computer is here? Yes. Hopefully have it all set up by this week sometime.

Brian got a new computer, but it only has USB-C port, so he wasn't able to hook up the Ethernet and the mic up to it, so he's still using his old computer, but it should be fixed in the next day or two. Call TDC. Yeah, I should call. i don't want to burn too many bridges thanks for the suggestion bruce all right guys um thank you very much i don't know how do i i'm gonna try to hang up on all you guys now and and get off the live feed. Tomorrow is Wednesday.

We don't have a show tomorrow. Is that true? You said you're going around with Cooper tomorrow. Yes. And I am. What's Wednesday? Actually, I'm talking to Matt Torres tomorrow. Why are you talking to him?

I thought you get your programming from James Hobart. Just about the athletes that he works with? Just like research? Just like research? Just like, wow, you take this job seriously. Yeah, I think there might be an athlete who he's working with that even down might not know about yet. Can you tell us who? I don't know who it is.

That's what I might find out tomorrow. Oh, sweet. All right, guys. Thank you very much. Thanks for the donations today. Always awesome. Dallin Pepper, thanks for coming on. Joe Pepper, thanks for coming on.

Ryan Jevning. Nope, you didn't do anything this show. And I retract that. Thank you. And Matt Souza. Call Laura Horvath bam