The Sevan Podcast - #273 - Miranda Alcaraz

Episode Date: January 20, 2022

Miranda is the co-founder of Street Parking. She is one of the most successful women ever in the fitness industry. There is no doubt, through her time with Street Parking and on the CrossFit Seminar staff that she has impacted hundreds of thousands of lives directly or indirectly through programming, education, and influence.  She is a mother of two (soon to be three) and wife to Julian.  Learn more at Street Parking Daily Programming Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/therealsevanpodcast/ Watch this episode https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC59b5GwfJN9HY7uhhCW-ACw/videos?view=2&live_view=503 Support the show Partners: https://cahormones.com/ - CODE "SEVAN" FOR FREE CONSULTATION https://www.paperstcoffee.com/ - THE COFFEE I DRINK! https://asrx.com/collections/the-real... - OUR TSHIRTS ... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Sorry, I'm reading a text. Yeah. Yeah. Tonight's show is going to be nuts. It's going to be so fun oh my goodness oh my goodness did you see that interview that rory did with uh that redheaded lady what's her name marcia yeah i think it was like Amy or something. Let's see. It starts with an M. And I don't know for sure if it's a lady, by the way. And I'm not saying it's a lady to be a dickhead. It looks like a lady to me, so that's why I say it's a lady. But if it's not, I'm not doing it to be offensive. But I just know it comes from the DEI council, so I know that like, I know that that thing's all about perception.

There's no, there's no go behind it. Was it Amy West? No, no, no. That's actually a friend of mine. I had her on the CrossFit podcast. I'm actually a huge fan of her.

Put her money where her mouth is. Good morning, Cobra. Ah, good morning, Travis. I don't think, I don't think necessarily all the people who are on that council. I don't think probably no one on that council is bad,

but they're 100% all misled or they're part of misleading. There's only two ways to look at it. But, man, that interview is vapid. Holy shit, say what you're going to do. It's amazing that the reason why yeah amy west is a great dude uh um the the reason and beyond and let me tell you why she's so amazing she is walking the walk by the way we're having miranda alcarez on today if you guys don't know who that is you are going to be so stoked to meet her.

It is like she's a winner. Good afternoon from Northern Ireland. The DEI stands for diversity, equity, and inclusivity. And we'll go over this tonight. But diversity means that you look different than me, but you think the same. Equity means that regardless if you're addicted to heroin or if I've been working out in the fields all day picking strawberries, that we both get steak dinner every night. And inclusion is – not everyone is going to Everest, and when you demand that everyone does go to Everest, everyone else suffers. Oh, let's see what's going on here. Hold on. Was it Mason Alberts? Ah, yes. Mason Alberts. Yes. And, you know, can you send to my email? I thought that's where it was going. Oh, my bad.

What's your email? Oh, there it is. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. My bad. My bad. Oh. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. My bad. My bad. Sub on podcast. They just get their shit together. Oh, yeah, yeah, her. That's actually a good picture of her. Wow, those are good looking kids. I think clearly she's nervous but yeah she was having a real tough time explaining anything to be quite honest but yeah but but but the whole thing about the woke

culture is is to not use words that mean anything and to not know exactly what they're doing because if you were to define them based on what words mean they're basically a segregationist racist homophobic group what do i mean by that they look at people based on their skin color of their skin and to to to decide how to interact with them or what to give them and they justify it with like that's how you help people but really beyond the implicit the explicit piece that you're commuting to the uh communicating to those people is they're less than you the guy with one arm is less than you the black guy is less than you the jews are less than you just just whatever however you start categorizing them, you're explicitly at the, at the deepest level telling them that they're less than you. And it's nuts. It's nuts that more people don't see that. Okay. I don't want to, I don't want

any of this dirt to fall on Miranda. She's an amazing woman who runs an amazing community and Uh-oh. Doesn't need any of my... It's not opinion, by the way. It's not... We're not talking about opinion. People will be like, well, the truth falls somewhere in the middle. Shut the fuck up. It talking about opinion. People will be like, well, the truth falls somewhere in the middle. Shut the fuck up. It's not opinion.

What does vapid mean? Like empty. Well, I think – feel free to look it up. Let's figure it out. I think it means just like empty, like the bowl is empty. When I use the word vapid, I just picture someone's brain with just air blowing through it, like a fan blowing through it. If you guys don't like this show, vapid, offering nothing that is stimulating or challenging. So less than a cool breeze. If you guys don't like me, don't watch.

That's not because I give a shit care but because um it's not good for you and it's not like don't come here just to bathe in like your hate for me and then on top of that the dei council it's so like i don't know who the morning chalk up things they are you know what they remind me they remind me of my um high school newspaper, you know, like when everyone's pretending to be journalists and everyone's got the little little notepad in the pen. Yeah, they did this. They're doing this hit piece on Dave that it's so obvious that they're working with CrossFit with. It's like so obvious. Like, yo, guys, you're saying that you're breaking a story that the water in madison was dirty and then in the

same article you're saying that you knew about this in august but you're waiting till now to release it and we know that the reason why you didn't release it then is because probably i'm guessing that andrew weinstein said you couldn't but now that you guys are freaking out because you did something totally unethical and are divulging information about why Dave was fired because he didn't collaborate. Now you're starting a smear campaign and going back and releasing to, to try to, and I know what you're doing. You're trying to, it's the same playbook you did with the, um, with, uh, Greg Glassman. What you are doing is you are trying to rally up just a few really loud voices like the um the ones that have no integrity the blue checkmark squad the catrin's doter team and you want them to just start smashing people

and it's like you want them to start smashing dave the water's dirty at the okay i'll stop hi hi i don't i ended up having to join from my phone it wouldn't um work for my computer it said it couldn't access my camera do you have have Chrome? Were you on Chrome browser? Yeah, I was on Chrome and it said that it couldn't, that my camera wouldn't let it. Yeah. Let me go grab my, um, let me go grab my AirPods though. Cause you guys are really quiet on my phone. I'll be right back. Do you want me to talk louder?

It's like my phone's turned all the way up, but it's not, I don't know. Hold on. Take your time. It's my show. I do what I want. Might be the biggest guest I've ever had. Spit on the screen. I don't agree with everything Savon says. So funny when people say that.

It's like, well, I don't agree with a lot of things a lot of people say. It's just such a weird caveat. I read into it. I guilty but that like you're scared like you're scared imagine imagine here's what the dei council does imagine um and i've said this before being born onto planet earth and there's a word waiting for you that you have to be offended by what you'd want to do is get rid of that word so that everyone who's born doesn't have to deal with it and by get rid of it i mean take away it's me like make it so it doesn't have to offend people and instead a dei council reinforces that it's just tricky she's so

gorgeous please enough with your superficial comments how i told all my friends to join and say things like that i cannot i cannot believe someone sent me a link to a uh reddit thread where there's like 300 people calling me telling me what a creepy piece of shit i am and uh the examples they give are amazing because i told danielle brandon that's this new you might not know her she's like a new crossfit games athlete okay i i mean and i'm friends with her and i made a comment on her Instagram post that her shirt was too big. Cause it was like, kind of like bunching up and shit. And like,

people think I'm creepy. Cause I told, uh, uh, Daniel Brandon. I mean, I could read into it and think that they said it cause she's a girl and I'm a boy.

It is why, because listen, I mean, I'm just like, I'm not, what if I told you, what if I told you I suck dick on the weekends and i'm gay then can i comment on girls clothes because i think i think yeah that's what i thought that's no we have

a um we have hey i suck dick on the weekends just so you know we have a 35 000 person uh facebook group and it's 70 women and the amount of times that they openly discuss my husband if it was reversed and the dudes in there were talking about me and being like oh miranda this and that it would be so inappropriate and i think everyone knows that and would and would recognize that but the women have no issue doing it at all and i'm okay with the double standard as long as we can talk about it honestly, I agree. I'm okay with the double standard. But just don't lie to yourself about it. It's okay.

Yeah. Bye, Caleb. Thank you. Do you ever – I was thinking about what happened to CrossFit, and then I was looking at street parking. I think a lot of people don't realize what happened to CrossFit, and I don't say this in a pejorative way or negative way it's just what happened to it well i'll go back second there was a company called lulu lemon and they and they were owned by just like a guy and they their thing was just like breathe and love everyone and their bags were all cool and it was just this total like just love vibe right and and and they kind of cracked the code on making asses look

nice. And so it was just like this cool thing. Cause asses are cool. Everyone knows that. And then they, they got bought out and then, you know, legally they have a fiduciary duty now. I don't even know what that word means, but I sound smart when I say it to make money, they have an obligation to make money now. And so it's not, and when you speak of love, it is something that should come first. Always. It's at the top of the, it's not, and when you speak of love, it is something that should come first. Always. It's at the top of the, it's synonymous with God and presence and awareness. And so once you, you can't do both. I don't think, I don't think you can be wall street and love because they each have a different God. I mean, you gotta pick, you gotta pick one. That's the biggest one. And then,

yeah. So street parking still has, um, I don't know. I'm not one to talk like this, but still has one of God's children running it. And, and, and when CrossFit was sold, when CrossFit was owned, CrossFit had one of God's children running and now it doesn't. It has this idea that it has to make money. So it's a trip because I was thinking, and people don't get that, how like that changes everything. The insincerity of, like without recognizing that so many things are now going to be sincere. Like health is the, I heard someone from the DEI council say health is the most important thing.

No, you're lying. It's okay that it's the second thing. Don't lie. Hey, after we make a shitload of money, we're going to make you motherfuckers healthy. It's okay. I'm on board. Everyone wants real – so I was looking, going through all – not all your stuff. I was just scouring Miranda, scouring Julian, scouring street parking.

street parking and there's this like giving thing that you're doing of yourself that like you're just giving more and more of yourself and the one that really caught me was the one where you're making chicken in the it's a it's a pretty recent post you're making chicken in the kitchen and you say i don't want to be doing this right now and and i'm taking it off the street parking um you know menu list and julian put the chicken in i didn't ask him and i'm like holy shit she's not even faking it she's not she's not like i didn't want to do this but hi hi my little flock it's like like you really don't want to be doing it i'm like oh fuck this is like weird like she's she's you know what i mean like you're and that's like giving of yourself and there's no end in sight this street parking thing is just growing and growing and growing do you ever just go behind your bedroom door and close it okay you can't see the end

there's no i mean unless you're already talking to people at goldman sachs that and you're not telling us i mean how the fuck are you handling this pressure you're giving so much of yourself the flock is keep growing and it's like dude they're like what what's the end game i think that there's there's selda rosa i think that there's um what your flock is massive people it's massive it is hard is hard to put yourself out there like that and have this expectation that you're just going to show up for these people all the time, every day, no matter what's going on. I mean, I'm 35 and a half weeks pregnant right now, you know. But there's also something freeing in every time you do show up, being honest, because there's no facade. and every time you do show up being honest because there's no like facade so if i go on there i don't have like this persona that i have to establish that's not actually me or that i have to maintain that's not actually me so when i go on there and i say i don't feel like doing this but here i am

doing it i can have like a i can just be real about it so that helps. And we're trying to develop, Julianne and I came in- That's double-edged though, right? Yeah. Because you're free. And then if people don't like me, they actually don't like me. That too. I wasn't even thinking that. It's not like this persona where I'm like, I don't care if you don't like this fake person that I made up. It's not me anyway. But yeah, if people don't like me, it's actually, or if people

don't like what we're doing, it's actually something that's coming from what we really believe in and who we are, not, not something else. So that's, that is hard. I would say sometimes we're trying to, we're trying to grow our coaching staff and the faces and things like that. It's why we highlight the rest of our staff so much that it's not always just on me and Julian. I mean, we signed a 10 year lease

at this new office space that we just moved into. And I'm like, I turned 40 this year. Yeah. I was like, I'm going to be 50 years old when this lease is up. Like that's like, who wants the 50 year old lady? I mean, I guess other 50 year old ladies want advice from the 50 year old lady, but it's a different demographic at that point. So we're trying to grow more personalities and coaches and stuff like that to be able to take some of that on. How does such a successful businesswoman still not learn from her mistakes? Miranda's still saying the same silly shit she said from day one. Miranda, why don't you tell us the first time you realized that you didn't understand demographics when you started the company when you started the company oh yeah I guess and then you got pregnant and you're like no one wants to

see the pregnant girl oh that's so true that's true I mean they're gonna love you at 50 10 years older also they're gonna love you at 50 Miranda what the fuck are you talking about you're gonna have 16 year old girls looking up to you when when we started street parking a couple days later I think I found out I was pregnant I was like well there goes that idea because I I mean we only know what we know right and at that point I was I mean you remember like I was CrossFit Miranda I was like one of the first females that was really lean all the time and had abs and um could also you know do do a decent interview and talk to people and give lectures and things like that so and move the weights yeah we were talking about it the other day when in like 2009 2010 i was like the strong

athlete i was one of the bigger ones and now if i went on the floor at Wadapalooza, I would look so tiny next to those girls. It's crazy. Yeah. This, um, it's almost like you haven't, it's not, it's like you've cracked the code, but you've also writing it. I mean, it's, it's, we always say it's like a runaway train that we're like chasing after, like, oh, we didn't realize the, the monster in a positive way that we, that we built, you know? Um, do you ever, so, so do you ever feel that pressure? Like where you just have to close the, like, you just go into your bedroom and you cry and then Julien will be like, what's wrong? You're like, I don't know. It's like, it's like a, just a teapot of just steam coming off his tears or maniacal. Oh my gosh. I mean, I cry. I mean, even when I don't know. It's like, it's like a, just a teapot of just steam coming off his tears or maniacal. Oh my gosh.

I mean, I cry. I mean, even when I'm not pregnant, I'm a big, I'm a, I'm a very emotional person and I'm very, uh, I definitely am like a person who's prone to like a whole bottling it and then like a melt full meltdown. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean, it's's it's massive i don't think people realize and maybe i'm just making this up i haven't talked about it but it's so obvious

from your post how much you're taking on of everyone's happiness of every not happiness the street parking takes people like is taking this shit like as fun as everything is, it's serious as a heart attack. Like each like you can tell, like each member matters. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I mean, I'll cry in our in our meetings talking about like, hey, we got to be we got to care about these people. And these people are relying on us and and everything. That was one of the first realizations that Julian and I had. I think we started street parking with kind of like, oh, this will be fun. It'll be like 100 people who are like sharing their scores and work out at home. And that's all it was. And then after the first month we had like 700 people. And then I felt this weight

of responsibility of these people are like relying on me now to tell them what to do and to give them advice and to help them reach their goals or improve their lives and things like that. And then it felt like a massive responsibility, not in like a negative way, but like in a, like almost like an apparent child way, you know, when the kid comes, you, you, you have your first kid, you're like, oh, this is going to be fun. He's going to be cute. I'm going to put him in some cute clothes and, you know, and then the first time they cry, you're like, oh, And then the first time they cry, you're like, oh, it's on me to fix this right now. Yeah.

How do you respond to the people who reach out to you? So on Instagram, I'm not even selling anything. I don't even have any responsibility to anyone. But when people write to me, I kind of feel like I have this responsibility to at least open it and give it a double heart, a thumbs up, or thank you, Miranda. And there's a lot of fucking annoying people out there who will write a paragraph about how they don't want to take their time and your time, and they don't mean to bug you and all this stuff. And they've already taken more time than anyone else, the last hundred people who DM'd you by telling you they're sorry they don't mean to bug you and all this stuff. And they've already taken more time than anyone else. The last hundred people who DM do by telling you they're sorry, they don't want to take it. How do you like, what's the protocol there? How many emails like, is there,

are there levels before something gets to you? Like, how do you, there must be this flood, like Miranda, I have to, I have to talk to you. I'm pregnant and I have this question for you. And it's like, the pregnancy ones are crazy. Um, I actually, there was like a peak, I would say maybe a couple years ago. And then it's, it's not as much now. There was definitely a time when, when we first started street parking for the first year, it was just me and Julian and we would not go to sleep at night. Um, and this is why I was pregnant with our first, we would not go to bed at night until every single person who had used the hashtag street parking, had a comment on their Instagram posts until every Facebook post had been commented on or liked by one of us until every support email had been answered. Um, and as a business, we still try to do that as

much as possible, but there's a team when it it comes to my personal Instagram, I mean, I just had to at a certain point, like, let go of it. I liked the feature when Instagram started doing like the people that you don't follow. And so you can kind of sift through those a little bit and they don't know that you've seen it. And I hate that I can't answer all of them, but at the end of the day, like I gotta be realistic. And, and a lot of times there are questions about like the workout and there's plenty of other places they can go to ask that, like our Facebook group and stuff like that. So.

Right. Yeah. I want to be nice to you, but you're starting to piss me off. Yeah. And I, I mean, I have genuine, I've built genuine friendships with a good number of our members or like I interact with a lot of them back and forth some of our members that have been around for longer but not always sometimes like I'll see a new one that pops up that I want to like go and engage with and follow and and follow their story for whatever reason but I it I definitely don't answer all of them and I'm just waiting for the day where you know I have somebody do this post about how I mean and I've ignored them for years yeah I don't really care about people there has to be one of those coming every day there must be Waiting for the day where, you know, I have somebody do this post about how I'm mean and I've ignored them for years. Yeah, yeah. I don't really care about people.

There has to be one of those coming every day. There must be something slipping through the cracks. I mean, I just went to Guadalupalooza. It was an insane event. I can't believe that they actually do that. A storm comes through. Every time. Every time there's a storm at Guadalupalooza.

Fucks their shit up. And then there's all this hate on Instagram. I mean, most of it's love, but I'm just like, aren't these, like, even if I was angry at them, I wouldn't speak about it. Like, you just saw what they went through. They just got smashed. Yeah. I think people forget that there's other people on the other side. They do.

And I think, actually, my realness helps with that a little bit because I am very active in our community. And when I post stuff and people comment on the post, I'm very interactive with that. I'm not one of those people that just posts and then never looks at the comments. And it was just me putting something up. I'll interact with people in the comments. And so I think people know that I see it and they see me more as a real person because I do a lot of that kind of stuff. Um, yeah, so I don't get, I don't get a ton of mean people, but it happens, I don't know, maybe like once a month. Um, how, how many weeks are you pregnant? 35 and a half, 35 and a half weeks. So 35 and a half weeks ago, the sperm met the egg.

No, that's not how it works. It's 35 and a half weeks ago. I had my last period, but you're not allowed to talk about periods. Understood. So meaning. That's when it starts at the end or at the beginning, I think, of your last cycle. Oh, so you could have gotten pregnant. Like two weeks later, probably.

Yeah. So maybe you're only 33 weeks pregnant. Well, they start the week counter at the cycle. That's how they measure it. Okay. So you're in a in a according to like if I looked up how long is the pregnancy five weeks, in 35 days, you'll be pushing out a baby. Yeah, my due date's in like 33 days. My first two both came late.

Knox was three days late and Banner was eight days late. And when you say late, did your water break for both of those? No, Knox's, it never broke until I was like heavy, heavy, like I had been in labor for hours and they actually had to break it for me. Was that your first one? Yeah. At the birth center. And then Banner's, it broke. We were just like sitting, eating pizza one night and it broke.

And I didn't really realize it at first because I was sitting down and it never had broken for Knox. And so it was like kind of this weird thing, but the midwives that we work with, they give us this little Q-tip that like, if, if it's amniotic fluid, like you can swipe it in the fluid that came out and it turns a different color if it's amniotic fluid. And so that's how we knew that it was my water with him. Miranda, you peed your pants. No, my water broke. No, you peed your pants. Well, let's get like that well it took me because i was sitting so it's not like on the movies where like a ton came out and i mean there's

a lot of weird stuff that happens to your body late in pregnancy and so i stood up and then and then it came out a little bit more but it still wasn't like some like big like water balloon crash to the ground like you see you know um we need cleanup on aisle three were you at a pizza joint no we were at home oh do you remember what kind of pizza um yeah i think it was um this place near us that we go to a lot what is it called we haven't eaten i haven't felt like pizza at all this pregnancy so we haven't had it at all um was it pesto remember but it's just like a meat lover is like a local place um i asked because one of the um i guess they're called wife's tales that we were told was pesto he doesn't like go get pesto pizza extra pesto and we tried that because hayley had

um obvi three weeks late yeah Yeah. It was nice. What kind of birth did Haley have? Just in the living room on blankets. Yeah. I was going to say, cause normally your doctor's not letting you go three weeks late. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm not even, I'm probably, I'm, she's probably told me never to say that on the air. Well, I mean, I'm, I'm okay with it,

but I know doctors are pushing for like early, if anything. And she, and she had the twins at home too, and that's illegal in the state of California. Yeah. Which is. And so your first baby you had in a birthing center? Yep. In California.

And your second baby, what's his name? His name is Banner. You're going to have three boys? Oh oh yeah dude it's it's gonna be i mean you know it's gonna be crazy you can't you can't have them inside they're not indoor pets no don't try it's rainy here we just take them out they are not indoor pets they are not they ruin everything um so why did you have um nox in a birthing center did you did you and and um did you start like tell me that journey of like how you and helene decide where you're gonna have your baby yeah i don't um at least back then and it's i've gotten progressively more this way guess, but I wouldn't consider myself like somebody that

people would know right away that I would do a natural home birth. Um, I had a bad experience with hospitals, as you know, when I broke my neck and they misdiagnosed me. And ever since then, I have a hard time with hospitals. I have a hard time with regular doctors and things like that. I lost confidence in the whole system through that incident. You have medical PTSD? Yeah, and hospital PTSD. And I've always been a little bit weird, even when I would get hurt and things like that when I was younger, like in high school. I come from a place also in Salt Lake city, Utah. I come from a place where there's a high, high level of, um, like pain pill addiction

and the Mormon community, uh, isn't, I'm not going to say they're okay with it, but they don't look at it the same as regular drugs because it's a prescription. And so it's kind of like a workaround for a lot of people. And I had a lot of people that had really bad like pain medication addictions. And so even when I had my appendix taken out or when I had my knee surgery or when I had my neck surgery, like I took as little pain medication as possible. And the amount that they prescribed me was just so high. And so I just have, I take issue with a lot of those types of things around like the medical world anyway. And so I knew I hadn't, I didn't see myself as like a home birther, like a, like a, I guess for lack of a better term, like a hippie like that. But I knew I wanted a natural

birth. And I knew if I went to the hospital, they would push me into trying to do things that I didn't want to do. Um, so we found a birth center that was like 10 minutes from our house in California that they were really awesome. And, um, the room that we had him in was like a, it was like a really nice hotel room. It had like a really nice shower and a really nice bathtub and a really nice hotel room. It had like a really nice shower and really nice bathtub and a really nice bed and everything. And it felt more like a home than a hospital. And so, and they, they don't do any sort of like pain management or anything like that there. So that's why we chose it in California. And I was going to do that here. I had a place here lined up to do the same thing, but then when COVID happened, um, they said that I wasn't going to be able to bring Knox to the birth. Like I could only bring one person and I couldn't bring my child.

And if I showed up with any symptoms whatsoever, they were going to take me to the hospital and make me do a hospital birth. So at 35 weeks with Banner, I changed to a home birth when I only had like five weeks left. And I honestly think the reason that Banner was so late is because I was really stressed out toward the end of my pregnancy because I was so scared. They were like going to take my baby from me if I had any symptoms whatsoever. Because you heard those stories, right? And I was scared of contracting. stories, right? And I was scared of contracting. There are plenty of stories of babies and parents who are separated for more than a week at birth because of some sort of arbitrary COVID.

Yeah. And I was scared of contracting COVID, not because I was scared of getting sick, but if I tested positive, I was scared. So I wasn't going around anybody. Like I was like, the like scared of COVID person to protect, like I was in full protection mode of the baby. And I think that's why he was so late. And they tell you like all these like psychological factors that can, can make your kids come later. And I think I was just holding him in.

Cause I was scared of what might happen when he came out, but the home birth was beautiful and we loved it and it was awesome. So we're going to do the same thing again. Christine, is it, is it four is 42 weeks like the or is it 40 weeks like just like the 40 weeks is the due date that they gave that they give you and then um but what's the conventional wisdom for a baby being born incubating and mama growing in there honestly it's between 38 and 42 weeks is normal anything in that window is normal yeah christine was questioning my math fair enough my math should always be questioned uh going back to the birthing center what's the

difference between a birthing center and a um hospital two of the things you said is it's a nice room in the birthing center like like more homey and less medicinal less sterile and then the second thing you said was there's no option for like, uh, yeah, they don't, they're not, they're not medical. I don't know the term for this. They're midwives. So they're registered midwives just, uh, I mean, still a ton of schooling and education, but they're, um, it's like non-traditional. I mean, I think at some point it was traditional, was traditional birthing techniques. They, they couldn't do a C-section there.

They can't give me an epidural there. They don't have that stuff. If any of that stuff is necessary, the hospital was like less than a mile away and they would transfer you over there. But it's like a place you can go that's not home that you can have the baby. And my thought back then, we lived in a pretty small place and we had really close neighbors in California, like not connected walls, but I mean, they were, you know, and so I didn't want to be like screaming in the middle of the night and in, in, in our tiny little home, trying to have the baby. So, uh, it was just a more peaceful place than I feel like our home

would have been at that time. Haley had the, uh the baby, our first baby, like in like a 400 square foot apartment on the bottom floor of a two story apartment building. And then right across was other apartments like from us. And so at like three in the morning, she's like, and I just laid out a shitload of blankets on the floor, right? Like just layers and layers. a shitload of blankets on the floor right like just layers and layers and uh like a slumber party you lay out blankets for a kid she's like can you get it ready i think the baby's gone yeah no problem throw some blankets on the floor so uh she's screaming and the neighbors come from across the the place at like three in the morning i hear this knock on the door and it's the neighbor and he's like is everything okay i'm I hear this knock on the door and it's the neighbor.

And he's like, is everything OK? I'm like, oh, my wife's having a baby. He's like, all right. And the door's like open and she's on all four on the ground. And the neighbors like, oh, it's like a murder scene. So you have you have the baby there. And then the second baby you're saying you had at home just because it felt like it was too – maybe around COVID there were some things that could pop up that could derail you.

Yeah, I mean the very biggest and first one is that they weren't going to let us bring Knox to the birth, and we wanted him to be a part of that and to be there right when Banner came. And they told us that I could only bring one person, and that was obviously going to be there right when Banner came and they told us that I could only bring one person and that was obviously going to be Julian. So that was like the biggest thing. And was Banner there when it was Knox there when Banner was born? Oh, yeah. He so when when I had started to push, he was over at Julian's mom's house and she lived like a mile away at the time. So she knew that I was in labor and we just called her and told her to bring him. And he came and he was in the bathroom with me while I was pushing. And then when he came out, I mean, we had, was he scared for mom? Was he

crying? Like, Oh shit. Mom's hurt. No, actually. Cause in between he was a little bit, but in between contractions, I would look at him and I'd say, I'm okay. It's okay. And he, I mean, he was only like not quite three at the time. So he didn't, couldn't exactly verbalize. I'm sure everything he was feeling. Yeah. And, uh, but then no, we have the sweetest video of him coming over and he's like, hi banner. Happy birthday. Um, it's really cute. Yeah, that's awesome. And,'s like, hi, Banner. Happy birthday. It's really cute. Yeah, that's awesome. And when we had – so we started going to birthing classes. And then somewhere – and I was adamant about having the baby in the hospital because that's the safest place to have a baby in case anything goes wrong.

They can tend to the baby, right? And somewhere in the class, in this birthing class we were taking with all these other couples so cheesy so awesome i highly recommend it for everyone it was so cheesy made me so uncomfortable but it was so killer and it was it was three hours a week it's not with my wife there and i mean sitting a little couch together and uh and then somewhere in there the teacher goes hey you guys don't want a hospital birth and we're like what she's like no i'm listening to you guys fucking talk you guys do not you guys are gonna fucking lose your shit in there i'm like what are you talking about and then that's how we went down that path um it will be really cool that she did that yeah it was super cool um will you have the same and now my wife this, like after we've had the babies at home, she says, people think it's the people who have the babies at home that are the brave ones.

It's the people in the hospital who are the brave ones. And I totally get it, man. If you knew how simple it was at home, you would. I mean, like you have the baby and you're there, you're done. And you just, yeah. I mean, curl up in a ball and you throw some blankets in the wash and like, you don't have to worry about baby seats. No one talks to you. It's like, you just, the whole family's naked together.

You, you wake up in the morning and it's your food and your house and your bed and everything. It's really nice. Baby's just there feeding. your house and your bed and everything it's really nice baby's just there feeding there was a moment um after banner where they couldn't get my placenta to come out that's like one of those things that they don't show in the movies either like what is after the baby comes out you're not done and they couldn't get it to come out like for like i mean everything seemed so long at that time but i think it was still in there for like an hour. They couldn't get it to come out. And they were, they were pushing on my stomach and like, you can't pull

on it. Cause that would just create too, too massive of a wound in there. But there was a moment where the, I heard them talking about like, we have 10 more minutes. Cause they, I mean, the midwives have rules where if they don't follow them, they could lose their license or whatever. They've had like 10 more minutes. And if it didn't come out, they were going to take me to the hospital. And I was just like, the baby's out. He's great. He's fine. And I still might end up having to go there anyway. Then they talked about having to like literally have one of them reach up and grab it. And that was terrifying. Um, luckily none of that had to happen and it came out, uh, before the 10 minute window

was up. But, um, yeah, there's a lot that people don't know about that happens. Yeah. You basically birthed that you birthed the placenta too. Yeah. Like they let you have your moment with the baby and then they're like, okay, now I got to get this other thing out. You know, did you, do you have any of that stuff?

Do you have the, uh, uh no he didn't have the baby that's her that's not miranda that's the husband he helped make it caleb that's not the guy that he gets in there though he gets in the bathtub and he i mean i think i bruised his leg last time because i was like grabbing onto his like shins um when i was pushing and he said that it hurt so bad but yeah that's the video where nox says happy birthday it's a banner so you had the baby in the is there water in the tub yeah and and the baby came out in the water oh i mean people would lose their minds this is this kind of stuff that that creeps people out that are more like that that don't know much about um this kind of thing

but his head was out underwater for like a good 90 seconds, maybe two minutes. Because babies don't need to breathe air until they're, they're getting their oxygen from the umbilical cord until that's cut. So, and I had learned all of this. I had read books and stuff. So I wasn't, I mean, Julian was a little worried about it, but his head was just out. And then I was waiting for the next contraction so I could push one more time. But it kind of took a little bit and I could feel him kicking me and he was just there. And yeah, I think I remember being taught that as the baby comes out, the the pressure from, I guess, the walls of the vagina or the uterus basically do something to the baby's lungs. They give it that first like kickstart.

It's like before they start taking air. So if when the head's out, they're still they're not even in breathing mode yet. And then they give that first like as it squeezes out of the vagina and then. Yeah, it was crazy. It was like I could feel him kicking me because the baby also like if you've ever seen a video of like what the baby does when when he's coming out is they're actually helping they like push off um in most cases anyways so um did you did you um get the placenta and throw it in a blender and drink it up like a little piece uh both times i've done that yeah the liver King ain't got shit on you. You did that. And then I do the dried like placenta pills too.

Oh my goodness. You are a dirt twirler. Holy cow. They, they, they talk about how, cause I, I, if I went to a psychologist or a therapist, they would diagnose me as somebody who suffers with like anxiety, for sure. And like, and so if you went to one, if you went to one, I won't, I don't want any of their nonsense. But no, I definitely am somebody that like struggles with anxiety. I think I'm just too hard on myself. And like we were talking about earlier, like put too much pressure on myself and

then let it bubble up or whatever. And I know postpartum depression is like a really or postpartum anxiety is like a really big issue. And so when somebody suggested that the placenta stuff helps with that, I mean, I've done it with both. So I don't know if it helps or if it doesn't. But I was like willing to do anything to, you you know prevent any of those issues from popping up do you have the um did you save the umbilical cords i have noxes but it's like it's like what are you gonna do with that thing i don't i don't think i probably have banners too somewhere in like a jewelry box or something but it's a trick i have um i have the twins umbilical cords and

they're in one of these boxes back here. And it's always, and it just looks like a, like a dried up, like have you ever seen a dead snake on the road and it's just, yeah, that is what it looks like. Yeah. It's just a dead snake. I like to pull it out once in a while and show and, and show the boys and like freak them out. Did when you and Julian, when you have Knox is the plan to have two more

um are you guys just careless or do you guys want kids no nox was not planned at all nox was not planned we um you were aware that the activity you were partaking in made kids though Or the activity you were partaking in made kids though. Yes. And I, and we know the exact day that it happened. And he's so funny. You'll love this. He was, I was surprised that I was pregnant, but he was even more shocked. And he said that he didn't think that it, he thought that it would be much harder for

me to get pregnant because I was, I had been lean for so long. Yeah. Um, and because I was, uh, because of my age, like he actually said, how old were you? I was 34. Awesome. Hey, that's just the conventional wisdom shit, right? I read it. I read in men's health, men's health magazine that if I smoke weed, my sperm can't get anyone pregnant. Oh oh that's awesome yeah so he was surprised and i mean i was surprised too for the for the same reasons i guess a little bit but it was funny to hear him say that you had and and and now how is three what you guys wanted after that like are you guys for like some religious reasons do you guys not like

use contraception or or for personal reasons and then you're just like we'll just take what comes or you're you want kids or the last two have been on purpose and and planned um we said that banner was going to be our last but then there was just um a feeling that i had that i brought up to him that I felt like someone was missing. You women, you're so clever with your words. He agreed. Something missing. And we kind of thought that because I had that feeling that it was going to be a little girl. And I mean, Julian would have been a really funny girl dad because he would have just been wrapped around her finger so hard. But no, so we planned both of them.

It took me like nine months to get pregnant with Banner. And so we thought that the same thing would happen. I was still breastfeeding Banner when I got pregnant with this one. His name's Crew, by the way, I've already said that. So we can, we can say that out loud, Crew. But I got pregnant with Crew right away, like the first month. So they're closer together than we had planned, but no we'll be done after this one i think at over a certain number it would be hard for us to have the type of relationship with each one that that you would want to have do you do you

feel that uh it's it's interesting you said that because my dad told me that that when he had he thought they had my sister first and then me and he said something to me along those lines like i just didn't didn't think i would have enough love for both of you i don't even think it's the love i just think it's the time and the like ability to get to know each individual child and and and and that sort of thing especially because we plan on homeschooling. And we've planned on homeschooling since long before COVID. It actually has nothing to do with that, but it's the craziness of schools being open and closed

and all the weirdness around it has just solidified it, of course, more. But yeah, I come from a family of six. So my, and I- What number are you? What number are you? Four. Okay. I was the a family of six. What number are you? Four. Okay. I was the first girl.

Okay. So I have three older brothers. And so go on about that. And do you think that you didn't get enough attention or get to know your parents at all? No, I got a lot of attention, but I think it was because I was different because I was a girl. And so my mom and I spent a ton, a ton of time together. Um, but I don't, I, I don't think that all my siblings would agree that they got a lot of time and attention. I was really into like a lot of extracurricular activities like dance and, and,

uh, music. And I was in a lot of like plays and musicals when I was little, um, that required my parents to take me to rehearsal and be there with me and things like that. So I was with my mom solo a lot. There's no doubt. That I've spent a thousand times more one on one time with Avi than my twins. And there's because it was just like I mean, mean when my wife the first literally the first three months after the twins are born i spent every every day with avi all day and away from my wife my wife stayed in the house she never came outside once in three months that's no exaggeration she

did not come outside wow yeah the first i remember the first time she came up to the front part of the house i was like whoa what are you doing up here your section's back there go and no i didn't say that there and in in and i and we bought our first brand new car that either of us have ever had in our life. And I went out and bought it and I brought it home. It was a minivan. And that was the first time she came out outside. I'm like, do you want to see the car? She's like, I guess.

And she came up to the front. Oh, cool. Well, you go into this like kind of mama bear cave mode for sure. And I mean, Julian's prepping for that right now like he knows that when the baby comes like for the first little bit like he's single dad of two boys you know it's nox and banner and him they roll yeah just roll everything yeah and they will change so much with mama not around like obby all of a sudden manned up all the crying shit stops all the fucking complaining about being hungry like when mom's not around. I mean, literally, I will still to this day, this is a little off subject, be at the dinner table hanging with them.

We're having fun. We're flicking cucumbers. Everything's chill. It's like boy stuff. Some bad words are slipping out of people's mouths. We're doing burpee penalties. And then mom comes home and they'll just start bawling and run to her. Yeah.

You assholes. you assholes, you assholes. Sometimes he'll have them like downstairs and I can hear that they're eating breakfast and having fun. And I won't come down. Cause I know I'll ruin it. Like, I know that they'll start being more needy and stuff.

If I come around, it's so interesting. Mama, I don't blame them. And they'll straight. Tell me like, if we go somewhere in separate cars and I drove them, they'll be like,

mama's driving us back. I'm like, what? You love her more. They're like, aha, my God, it like, if we go somewhere in separate cars and I drove them, they'll be like, mama's driving us back. I'm like, what? You love her more? They're like, oh, my God. It's like, of course you do. It's your fucking mom. So so and I've and I've never spent any time with the twins, really. Just just alone, just like just like, yeah, just Joseph or just RV or Ari.

It's like I don't think about it. Maybe I should think about it, but like, like yesterday, I spent time with just the two of them. Haley took Avi somewhere and I was just with the two of them, but I've never just like take Ari and just be like, Hey, let's go play tennis. It's always Ari and Joseph. You got to do it. You have to. Cause at some point, like, is that a mistake? Am I fucking that up?

I mean mean maybe not at this age but when they start to like my biggest our biggest thing that we talk about with them is um not assuming that that banner is gonna want to do the everything that nox does or that he likes everything that nox does or that he you know so we try we try to like allow them to develop as individuals because right now banner he does copy nox a lot and so trying to get him alone we have a pretty cool setup so nox goes to a montessori preschool for like three hours um five days a week and we did that not because we needed the child care or anything like that but to allow him to develop some independence from us. And now when he's there, Julian's mom watches Banner by himself. And eventually Knox will only go there till he's six and then we'll be homeschooling him full time and Banner will go

there by himself. And I just started taking Banner to this gymnastics class by himself. And I could feel it like I was thinking, oh, Knox would also love this. And it's like, no, I need Banner to this gymnastics class by himself and and I could feel it like I was thinking oh Knox would also love this and it's like no I need Banner to establish like his own personality and and his own like self away from from Knox um because it can be easy I think especially when you have all three boys or if you had all three girls to just like always lump them into like one group and treat them all the same and stuff like that but um we'll try to let them develop their own interests and and personalities and stuff apart from each other do the um does nox end up in your bed every morning oh yeah and he actually going back to the birth he is so pumped so he's four uh four and a half and he is he he is ready like the midwives came over yesterday actually and he was like showing

him the bathtub and showing him the bed and saying that like as soon as crew comes out he's going to take his shirt off so that he can hold him and do skin to skin and he was telling them that there's going to be blood in the in the bathtub but it's. It's not Cruz blood. It's mama's blood. And, and that it'll hurt mama a little bit, but that's okay. She's going to be okay. Like he, he knows that he is so ready and he talks to the baby every day and asks him when he's coming out and stuff. It's awesome. But yeah, he, he comes in our bed at like 5.00 AM. That is awesome. That's a really, really good sign. Oh, yeah.

He is pumped. Yeah. That means you're doing something right with the family because. I shouldn't say this because I haven't experienced it the other way, but it's really cool as the family grows and you feel the family unit. I'm sure you've already seen that. It's blowing your mind when you've seen something happen to banner and nox runs over uncued it's like yo what's up you good okay or like he's trying to get something and nox will just casually walk by and hand it to him and you're like holy shit this thing is starting to

act like yeah it's crazy it's awesome we're starting to become like a unit and the best was the other day nox was talking to my belly and he goes crew i will never hit you i will never hurt you and he hits banner all the time i was like i was like what about banner and he's like oh i already hit him he's like too late for that so um when you go out when when you're when you're an eighth grade boy and you go out on the dance floor you don't go on the dance floor because like you're embarrassed and you know everyone's staring at you, right? What kind of intimacy is there? You're on all four.

There's two midwives in the room. Everyone's staring at your vagina. Like your – Julian's there. And I know that you love him and I know that you guys have like an intense relationship like on all the levels spiritually emotionally superficially like this is a fucking massive relationship you're having um is there still a point where you have to break through that then too like like I'm so open with my wife but I wouldn't want to be on all four with her staring at my asshole you know what i mean but

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But then I would say this last time that that's another like benefit of the home birth and that I wouldn't want to do in the hospital is like the lights are lower and you're not liking stirrups ever at like any point um i and quite honestly like you you it's uh it's an out-of-body experience like he remembers way more about those births than i do for sure um and you it's like a you turn into like an animal. You really do. Yeah. Yeah. She would vanish.

She would, during the contractions, I would see her like, basically like just go away. Like my wife was gone. Yeah. And there's this really cool picture. Cause we had a photographer and a videographer there for banner. There's this really cool picture of when I was on all fours and I had like a longer like robe on. So there wasn't like any thing like exposed or anything like that.

And he was down on the floor with me and we're just like making eye contact. And our midwives say it's like one of their favorite pictures they've ever seen. They were like, you look like you're going to eat him. Like you, it's like a crazy, like, and it's a really cool, powerful picture. And that's another reason that I am a huge advocate for unmedicated births um i believe that that transformation or that out-of-body experience not in a drug-induced way but in like the way that nature was intending it to be is it there's something changes in your brain and in your like spirit or whatever that is necessary to

be a mom um holy shit we're gonna get canceled careful with that shit there's a there's definitely a time and a place for drugs and surgery and stuff like that and it's good good save good save good save a lot of lives and i would if they if my midwife said you need to go have a c-section because the baby's stuck i would 100 do that and not put the baby in in danger but I do think that there's an evolutionary like something that happens to you when you're going through the the pain and the like struggle of the unmedicated birth that's necessary and I would say the same thing about like going back to like when I had my knee surgery or my neck surgery I want if I if my neck is hurting or if my knee is hurting, I want to know that it's hurting so that I can tell if now it's hurting worse or now it's feeling better. I think numbing it, it's just masking a problem, and I do believe that you heal faster when you're connected to everything.

You're telling your body to shut the fuck up and your body's communicating to you. There's a problem. Oh, here he is. Let's see. There he is. Thanks for, thanks for sharing your lovely wife. Thanks for sharing your lovely wife with us. It's good to see you. Good to see you too. You know, that's another pretty crazy thing that people don't realize, and I don't have it on the level you do. But you are living this dream, and you're supposed to be a role model, but yet you still have a real relationship with Julian.

Meaning divorce isn't an option when you have kids right on one level but like you have this pressure like i don't let the world see me fight with my wife right there's a there's a there's an there's it's just like i don't let the world see me drink alcohol i don't drink a lot of alcohol you're not going to yell at your kids like to a certain level. I mean – Right. Right. There's things that I hide from the world. But beyond hiding, like – let's use Greg as – I was going to say let's use a hypothetical of you and Julian breaking up and what that does to the street park. But let's use Greg as an example. Oh, yeah.

Him and Lauren started this company together, and then they fucking broke up and and like the whole thing fucking played out in the fucking public's eye and investors coming in it's just like holy shit and like if people don't think that like that pressure is real like on you like they're fucking idiots like no matter how perfect your relationship is that there there's this um there's those 35 000 people yep it's like dude and and it's good healthy people will use that to motivate them i use my kids to motivate me to have a better relationship with my wife every single fucking day hey shut the fuck up like stop being a fucking asshole to her even if you're 100 right shut the fuck there there's no winning there right like she's forever yeah

that's like shut up like what are you why are you telling this story building a story up against her like you're you're fucking moron yeah and snip that shit in the bud it's real right oh yeah i mean pressure 100 i mean you you told them to come in and kiss me kiss you at the 57 minute mark right yeah it's all scripted no and that's where um you know and i think by the way if you have to pee you can go and come back don't ever feel good i peed right before me too i don't know if that's a good strategy let's come back and talk about that really you think it like opens the floodgates or something i don't know but let's come back and talk about that i want at to at least know the things more interesting.

Yeah, I mean. The communal pressure. It is. And I mean, I had that a little bit even with Tyson, right? Like that was. Oh, yeah, this isn't your first rodeo, of course. Right. I mean, this is a big. Even your name.

It's hard for me even to switch Alcarez. Right. So hard. Oh, that was a whole thing, too, where i mean because and tyson's new wife is is known also so it's like this very weird thing and and i remember he wanted he he hit me up and wanted me to stop using old droid and i think it was because it was making his family or maybe mariah uncomfortable which i understand but also I was pregnant and Julian and I, I felt would eventually get married. So I was like, well, I don't want to change it and

then change it again. Like, right. It was, that was an awkward situation, but yeah, it was a similar thing with me and Tyson, because I think people were like, but wait, they're both like, so nice. And everybody knows he's like this awesome person and they it was like hard for them to compute the whole thing um and so yeah it was that was a similar situation but julian and i are have been good at least up until this point you you have to like really focus on it and pay attention to it to not let anything any amount of success in the business or financial success or anything become more important than our family and our relationship. And we have to protect that first. I love to hear that. Yeah. You have to protect that first. Yeah. So you guys, that's the right

pecking order. I talked about this the other day, like there's things that you should, that you want to do. And I don't know if this is exact pecking order, but it's breathe, eat. And then I think it's fuck and then shelter. But but I'm open to like moving around, fucking and shelter back and forth. If anything gets in between those, like doing heroin or then you're messed up, then you're willing to like not have sex, not have shelter, not have food as your desire for those other things. And so what Miranda is saying, the way I'm trying to understand what she's saying is you can't let the success of the business come in between. And with hers in that food and breathing and fucking, there's kids that are super high up in there too. that are like super high up in there too i actually feel that i feel very lucky in my relationship with willie because i learned that through my um relationship with tyson

like this guy has a sorry sorry to interrupt oh uh this guy has god spouse kids work right i don't know what god is but yeah right i'm good with it so i just purpose would be a good replacement for that i think um, um, if you needed, if you felt like you needed to replace it, not that. Thank you. Uh, yeah, but, um, yeah, I, I learned through the break because Tyson and I were married for nine years, which is a pretty substantial amount of time, especially, I think I was 32 when we broke up. Yeah, that's crazy. Wow. Um, but when we broke up, we, it was also,

can you even believe that? Would you like, like, can you ever imagine going through a divorce again? Oh my gosh. I mean, not it. My relationship with Julian is so much different that I can't like, it would be, it would be, and with kids and everything, like, no, it would be crazy. Um, but, but when we broke up, it was the same year that I tore my ACL at the games. And that day that I tore my, it was all fine until the ACL tear when I was like, oh my God, like I, this was all what was supposed to make it worth it. Like winning the CrossFit games was what was supposed to make the shit show worth it. And now like, I was pissed at Dave. We were in a huge fight because of stuff that happened behind the scenes of

the games where they were like basically hiding our team. So I didn't even know, I thought I was going to get fired from my job from working from the seminar staff. Cause we were fighting and then I had no husband so I felt like well I don't have a job I don't have a husband like but this winning the games was supposed to be what made it worth it and now I'm over here with a broken or a torn ACL and I don't have that I have nothing like I have I've put all my eggs into baskets that don't matter and I learned that lesson um oh that was like a dark couple of weeks. That's why I moved. Like I could,

I felt uncomfortable going into NorCal CrossFit because I felt so guilty. I felt like it was my fault and all this stuff. And so that's why I moved away. And I'm really lucky that I learned that because it's a, it's a valuable lesson that it's like, no, no amount of success, no amount of like people thinking that you're great or this or that matters. Because that stuff can all go away so easily and so quickly. And then you're left with like, why did I just give everything up for that? When I got fired from CrossFit, one of the first things I said to my wife within 24 hours, I walked into the kitchen. I think she was in there.

I was still like fucking like having an out-of-body experience. Like I was like, I cannot believe I don't work there. Like, and I didn't even like when I would go in my brain, like to see if I was sad or happy, it was like in protection mode. We just go quiet. You know, I was in total shock. And I go to my wife. I said, Hey, if, if shit gets really weird, I don't want to sell this house.

No matter what, can we just move into a van with the kids? And my wife looks at me and goes oh yeah whatever you want and i was just like i just felt like and as absurd as that was i just felt like oh i could see like the getaway car you know what i mean i was like oh yes yes oh that's so true i mean we we've been like that too. Cause Julian comes from a very, um, humble beginnings, like him and his mom and dad all used and his brother, you all used to sleep in the same bed. You know what I mean? Like his parents both came from Mexico, like as teenagers on their own. And, and so he's not afraid. He knows. No. So, but our house that we, that I'm in right now that we live in, um, is the same house that we got when we moved here and had 5,000 members, you know, and now we have 35,000. And our biggest thing was like, we got to pay off this house because then he could go work at Costco and I could go work at Starbucks and we could still live in this house and we have it for the boys. And so like, and that's absurd, right absurd right because you like you have so many other backup plans before it comes to that you still

have to have that one yes yeah anytime i see i've always been the person where if i see a now hiring sign that like it's like a sense of comfort for me because i'm pretty confident i could get a job at cvs you know or like it beats coffee oh 20 bucks an hour shit i could do that cvs you know or like it beats coffee oh 20 bucks an hour shit i could do that yeah how many l1s did you teach i know it was over 300 um i was i was realizing recently that that just makes you um i mean just the training the non-intentional training you get as a world-class speaker being able and willing to take any question. I mean, you've heard the most absurd questions. You've heard people put you on the spot in the weirdest way. You've been in the room with the creepiest people, the coolest people, and you were just – that wasn't even the intention, right?

But you have that. Do you feel that? Are you like, holy shit i'm good i like like i went in there green as fuck and now i'm like fuck i'll go on the seven podcast you let that little fuck try to ask me something crazy you know what it is where where you become really confident is when you have the confidence to have the answer be i don't know oh dude dope that's like a level of confidence that um because at first you feel like if they ask me and I'm in this position of like authority,

I need to know the answer. And so people just make shit up, right? Or they like fumble around with it or whatever. A really confident person in a situation is somebody that's like, you know what? I don't know the answer to that question. Even if it's something that maybe based on my education, I should know, being able to say, I don't know, answer to that question, even if it's something that maybe based on my education, I should know being able to say, I don't know, because no one knows everything. And people appreciate when you're just honest about that.

But it took me a while to get to that point. I don't want to say a fucking thing nice about Andy Stumpf, but here it comes. I was at an L1 and man, he's a great speaker. Oh, my gosh. So funny. And so, yeah. Yes. So engaging. So funny. And so, yeah. Yes. So engaging. So funny. Man, I really like him. It sucks that I don't like him because I really like him.

But he he's speaking in front of the crowd and he's like it was in San Diego. I don't think 2008. And he basically says, you know, there's no there's no. You're going to be able to correct me, but he's basically talking about there's no joint that just has single articulation or something like that. I forget what the line is, and that's why you don't do curls. You don't isolate. No joint ever does anything in isolation. Some guy raises his hand from the back, and then he's like, yeah.

And he's like, what about the jaw? And then he's like, oh, shit. Yeah, sorry. And then he just owns it and shit yes sorry there's and then he and then he just like owns it and goes back and redoes it and he's like there's only one joint in the body that does a single single movement articulation like he just owned it didn't defend it didn't stumble just embraced it the whole crowd laughed it's like yeah okay it was cool you know another skill that you pick up is um hearing the same question 300 times because there are certain questions that are just asked every single one.

And still giving the person respect to, first of all, finish their question. And then giving them an answer that seems like it's the very first time that anyone's ever asked you that. That's a skill. And it seems like it's the very first time that anyone's ever asked you that. That's a skill. And I mean, that's a skill that helps with parenting big time where you're just like letting them finish their long run on question or sentence. That's definitely something that I learned at the seminars also. I was raised to be just like pro-choice.

You never tell a woman what to do with her body. It was just like a really strong thing that was pound into me. And with no, no, no, no articulation of like how to think like, Hey, like even if they were going to give me a stance, like, Hey, this is why it should be like this because of the constitution or because people's bodies, like, just know this is the answer. Run with it, hold this sign and stand in that corner, shut the fuck up. And then as I got older, I remember someone saying to me like, hey, this is such a serious issue between possibly harming babies and not letting women choose over their own bodies that it has to be every time someone asks you that question. If you have a canned response, you're not you're you're you're doing everyone a disservice. You should rethink this. And. And I really liked that as an example. And now that I've even gotten older, I'm like, are those even like on even a deeper level? Are those really even the issues we're

told that it's like killing a baby versus women's rights? Maybe there's, maybe that's not even thinking about it correctly. Maybe there's even a whole nother way to think about it. And it's, it's just a trip. And as parents, we have an obligation to do that for our kids, not tell them what to think but teach them how to think. Yes, yeah. And what does it mean to set precedent to let women hurt babies or abort babies that aren't necessarily babies or whatever your stance is? Or what are the implications of putting laws on women's bodies? are they going to force injections like what are the implications you want to save babies but now you're okay with everyone having to be forced injection because it's the same and it's like you have to you have to give people the tools to think

about it especially our kids yeah leave that subject alone now yeah we'll leave that we'll leave that subject alone for sure what what do you think but i agree with you what what do you what do you do you and julian own street parking yes and who else owns it no one please who else owns street parking i mean i guess the members pay for it, but no one. So if I went to the city and I looked up who owns the trademark street parking, you own it. Oh, yeah. And do you ever think about what the implications of that are? Like what do you mean?

Like we don't know who owns CrossFit. No, we don't know. No, we don't know who owns CrossFit. No, we don't know. No, we don't. And we used to know who owned it. It was Greg. And you could throw all the rocks at him you wanted. But they don't. Yes, yes.

And it's fascinating to me that you own this thing. I want to really emphasize to people how – if you remember street parking, you already bathe in it, and you probably don't – you maybe don't even know what you're bathing in. You feel it. You smell it. You experience it. It's your family. It's your blood. It's real. It's your blood. It's, it's real. It's just, it's just all real. Like, like, okay. Let me, let me think of some examples. Like someone could come to you right

now and be like, Hey, can you incorporate this rubber band into all the workouts? Then all 40,000 people who do street parking will buy it. We'll make $20 profit. And all of them overnight will make $800,000. So someone can come to you and say that to you. And then you can be buy it. We'll make $20 profit and all of them overnight will make $800,000. So someone can come to you and say that to you. And then you can be like, we don't really have a use for that rubber band. We already have this rubber band. Why would we sell it? But this one, it's okay. This one's red and it'll have your name and we can get them to buy it.

Right? And you can make the decision to do that or not. And everyone can either be, thank you for putting this in there. I love having this new red band hanging in my garage. Or they can be like, this bitch is milking us. Or they can come up with any conclusion they want. But they got you and Julian to like, these other companies don't have that. They have to sell the red rubber band at all costs or else they're breaking the law to their investors.

They have an obligation. I know that you reposted that comment that I made on the morning chalk ups. Yes. Story about Dave and I. One of the things that I put in there. Hold on one second. Sorry, before you hold that thought. Will you put that back up a second, Caleb?

We are only doing street parking because of Miranda and Julian. Street parking is synonymous. Yeah. See, so there's – people used to say they have to act like it's not about them, and they have to proceed. They have to ignore you guys. But you guys also – we all know why you're doing it. I can tell why you're doing it too. I go to the thing because someone has to keep it real.

In midwifery, they call it the person who's keeping the space. That's the enormous pressure. And if you're a street parking member, I know it's hard not to put that pressure on Julian and Miranda, but you should never let the master know they're your master. You should release them and set them free of that pressure. You should not be judging the master. I'm getting fucking emotional. Sorry, Sorry. Will you, Caleb, will you bring up that, that if you can find it, I think it's on. I should have sent that to you. Sorry, Caleb. That's my fault. Go ahead had helped me grow so much was that I understand as a business owner in the fitness space, I understand the opportunity over authenticity, like things that are there. We've been hit up by multiple companies that

they offered to make us our own supplement line. We get hit up by brands all the time of, Hey, let's let, let us make you equipment. Let us make you this, let us take over this or, or let's co-brand this or that or whatever. And, um, the problem is that we believe as soon as we lose our message, we lose street parking. And I know you feel the same way. And I feel the same way about CrossFit where our message is you only need a pair of dumbbells at the foot of your bed and that's all you need. That is the message. I mean, and, and that's not like the words that we use, but yeah, it's, it's being in control of your fitness and knowing that it's simple and you can do it no matter what. Even if you don't have the dumbbells, you could still do it, right?

And we are – Like if you were in prison. Do you have any members who are in prison? Oh, my gosh. No, but I've joked about how that would be the perfect place for street parking. And it doesn't even need to be a joke. Like I've had family members in jail who I, you know, my brother was in jail for a while and I know he worked out while he was in there. Like it's a real demographic that could

benefit from it, from a mental aspect, if nothing else. Um, so yeah, that might be an opportunity for us at some point, but, um, there's also a demographic that we, um, are very, um, There's also a demographic that we're very much never wanting to feel like we're abandoning them. And people tell us all the time, based on where we started and what we offer now in terms of the amount of programming, the quality of our platform and everything, we could charge way more than we do. Because we've never raised our prices in five years, even though we've added so much. You've lowered them actually a little bit. You've given better deals.

We have, yeah, we have like some ways that they can get it cheaper by like buying a few months at a time or for service members and things like that. But part of the reason that we chose the price point that we did was because the people, there's a demographic of of people who the reason that they don't go to the gym isn't because they wouldn't love to go to a gym it's because they can't afford it and they won't ever be able to afford 150 or 200 a month for a crossfit gym and they still need this information they still need this type of training and guiding guidance and coaching so if we raised our prices

or if we made them feel like they needed to buy our supplement line to be successful, or they needed to buy this equipment, just because it's got a key on it to be successful, then that doesn't align with our actual like vision of why we started in the first place was to help people. And so we do stuff like that. I mean, we sell we sell a tonarel and, um, as you should, I remember wanting to buy a CrossFit hat in 2007 and asking Greg and Lauren if they would, um, do that. And they said no. And I was so frustrated.

People let people rep their shit. People want to rep their shit. We'll put street parking on, on some equipment and stuff like that probably eventually, but it will never be with a messaging of like you need this or you can't do the programming. Like there will always be a program where if you only have a pair of dumbbells, you'll be able to follow it. And we will never make you feel like that's like the less ideal program. And if you had all this stuff, then you would see better results. And we'll never say that. Um, this, this company here, ancestral supplements, I'm wearing their shirt right here. So we have some of their stuff.

Oh, you do. Yeah. So do you open the capsules? I ate my own placenta. So do you, um, do you open the capsules and put it on your kid's food? Oh, we haven't done that yet. I did that a little bit. I had some stuff that I would do with like some, a liver supplement or an organ supplement with Knox, but our kids,

when they're little before their teeth are really all the way in, we feed them straight up liver, not raw, but do you think that, and do you think that that made them, um, more open to it now? Yeah.

Like you acclimated them to that disgusting taste? We don't feed it to them so much now that they can chew and eat steak and things like that. But Knox loved liver when he was little. How did you know to do that? Who told you that? I think it's just like reading stuff. Reading. Research, I guess. Yeah, I can't pinpoint a specific book or anything.

I'm not interested in making any assumptions about Eric as I don't know him at all. And he's right that he can definitely do whatever he wants and clearly he has his own gym for CrossFit. But here are my two cents about dave his vision is his ability to collaborate and his leadership from a perspective of a form i'm screwing this all up reading this like ass let me start again do you want to read it do you want to read it i can't see it it's too small okay okay okay here we go but here are my two cents about dave his vision, his ability to collaborate and his leadership from a perspective of a former affiliate owner, a flow master who worked over 300 seminars, CrossFit Games athlete, and someone who was involved in planning and executing the game season at every stage. Okay, so do you see what we've established there? And I'll vouch for that. There were few people closer to Dave in the business and professional aspects as Miranda. She saw it all from the consumer to being part of the team at the highest level. Dave is a former Navy SEAL.

His leadership style reflects that. There are no compliment sandwiches and feeling talks. He gets results by holding you to a very high standard. Guys, I talked to Miranda. The last time I fucking talked to her was on the podcast I had her on. And we have the exact same view. Do you see this? There are no compliment sandwiches and feeling talks.

He gets results by holding you to a high standard, a very high standard and rewarding effort and attitude and action. That's another thing that people should be very aware of. Dave is huge about rewarding effort. Dave held the original vision of CrossFit fitness in 100 words. I can't imagine what kind of ideas these corporate people are pitching that this is about money and not all about the message. I understand this opportunity over authenticity is in fitness a lot as a successful fitness business owner myself. I think we've talked about that in the show a bunch. It really is – on one level, it's an intangible, and another thing, it's so fucking real.

Her and Julian own the company. If you're never sure what's going on, just remember that and eventually the answer will come to you. I'm telling you, just meditate on that versus not knowing who owns it and people owning it who are investors and not CrossFitters. People who own it who are street parkingers but not – it's nuts. Like she shows you herself doing the workout every day half naked with a baby and people interrupting her and in her fucking kitchen, not wanting to make dinner. Also, for those saying all he did was program is quite possibly the funniest thing I've ever read. The amount of planning and preparation goes into an event like the CF Games is beyond comprehension. Do people showed up for Dave?

These are my words, not Miranda's. They showed up for him. I mean, it was crazy for Dave. These are my words, not Miranda's. They showed up for him. I mean, it was crazy for him, not to mention his years of leading the worldwide seminar staff with Nicole Carroll, who, who deserves, you guys cannot believe the leadership between the two of them was insane. My biggest, and Dave is so open to feedback, by the way, like crazy open to feedback. Would you agree, Miranda? Yeah, I think so. I mean, I was not, I was way, like crazy open to feedback. Would you agree, Miranda? Yeah, I think so. I mean, I was not, I was not often in a position to, to give him a lot of feedback, but he would ask for it. Yeah. He would ask for it. That's what I mean. Yeah. Like you would come off the field and be

like, so tell me what you thought about that workout. And if you were like, Hey, this needs to be changed. You wouldn't be like, you're stupid. He'd be like, okay. Noted. Yeah. this needs to be changed he wouldn't be like you're stupid he'd be like okay noted yeah my biggest confusion is simply that dave has always been dave eric uh eric knew dave knew dave's public persona when he purchased crossfit finally i feel lucky to have had leadership that didn't coddle me was willing to tell me my ideas were shit tell me i me what I needed to do. Anyway, thanks for doing that. I mean, probably 20 people sent me that, and I was like, yeah, that's it. I mean, basically, the thing is I describe Dave as a ball of fire, and we're all steel, and if you go stand close to him, he'll fucking fire you up and sharpen your shit. But it's work.

It's work. Oh, and oh sorry one last thing and once you have someone treat you like dave you never want anyone else in your life because the rest of them are just full of shit see what happens yes you want You want just honesty. The reason that I posted that was not, you know, people had the opportunity to like chime in or whatever and get attention. came in and fired me and comments on morning chalk up or wherever they might show up of people saying like, Oh, well, all she did was program the workouts. I would end up in jail. Like I would people said that my contribution to street parking was the workouts. And it's not, I mean, yes, I program a lot of the, most of the daily workouts, but, and it, and it's a skill and a talent that I feel very proud of, but to minimize his role in the CrossFit Games to, oh, like he just makes the workouts. Like how hard can it be? First of all, it's very hard.

Second, that people were saying that and thought that like, as somebody who has given me so much and somebody who I consider my friend, I just couldn't let that be out there without saying something. And, and if that happened to me and none of our employees that we have now said like, Oh, like actually she did a lot more than just create the workouts. Like there was so much more that you guys have no idea about. If nobody said anything and was willing to stand, that would be really painful for me, I think. And so I just put myself in that position and I was like, I can't, even if people get pissed about this, which actually nobody did, I can't not say something. If you're in the CrossFit leadership still, if you're on the executive team, if you're on the

board, you should listen to what Miranda just said. Listen very carefully, please. I mean this in the kindest way possible. There are people seething who can't say a thing who work at CrossFit, and there's a ton of them. And it's the new guard. It's the old guard. They are so pissed because they can't say anything. You know, it's funny. I'll tell this story.

I don't know if I've ever told this story before, but I talked, I I've spoken with Dave since all of that. And I, and I brought this story up to him. So when I left CrossFit, um, there was a, there were a couple of reasons. Number one, because of what we talked about before I was in this relationship with Julian and I really wanted it to work. This was before I was pregnant or anything like that. And the travel, I knew what that does to a relationship, especially a new relationship. And so I didn't want to travel as much anymore.

So that was like kind of part of it. But then there was this new, and this was under Greg. So we can't blame, you know, anyone else for this or, or I don't know if they had hired what there was like another CEO there for a while. What was his name?

I don't want to say his name. He's a complete douchebag. I never say his name on the show. He's a pile of shit. He's a horrible human being. Let me just say this relative to this. I could have a beer with this guy and everything would be okay. It's not like he molested my kids.

I mean whenever I say anything bad about someone, you have to understand I contextualize stuff. Like if this guy was broken down on the side of the road, I would still stop and help him. Like – anyway, I just wanted to be clear about that. Okay, so they came out with this new like non-compete agreement that they wanted all of the trainers to sign. compete agreement that they wanted all of the trainers to sign. And it within it, it said that if I created a new company, that CrossFit would own at least part of the company or something like and I had to sign and agree to that. And I didn't street parking wasn't even an idea in my mind, at least not to my conscious mind. So it wasn't like, oh, well, I'm planning on starting this thing. And I don't want CrossFit to own it in case it blows up. And someday I have

35,000 members like that wasn't something that I but I knew that I was an entrepreneurial, like in spirit, and I'm always having ideas and stuff like that. So because of those two things combined, I was just like, hey, like, I think it's time for me to stop. And Dave, actually, we didn't live too far away from each other at the time. So we met at a Starbucks, like in between. And he, he like looked at me as my friend. And as this person who had done so much for me and said, you know, we would never like come after you if you created something. And I said to him, I said, I know you wouldn't I go, but what if you get fired? What if you leave? said i know you wouldn't i go but what if you get fired what if you leave and at the time that sounded crazy to say but uh i'm so glad you're such a conspiracy theorist you're so paranoid

so paranoid yeah i was like what if you get fired and even he probably was like okay like fuck you bitch i'm here forever yeah but I mean, can you imagine if I would have been like, okay, Dave, and signed it and now CrossFit would have a contractual, I mean, they would own street parking, whatever. Street parking brought to you by Berkshire Hathaway. Exactly. Or whatever the fuck their name is. And so I took like a huge, massive pay cut when I stopped working seminars. Man, you were top of the food chain there i mean you were the shit at crossfit you'd done it all like you could go anywhere you knew everyone like

like you swam you could swim in any department like everyone knew you like you'd flow master yeah yeah so uh but yeah i reminded him of of that conversation and i think about it all the time what do you think your peers think about what you've done? Like, are there people on the seminar stuff? Like, Oh shit. I talked to a lot. I mean, you're yeah, you do. Yeah. I taught I'm like Nadia and I are still close. I still, I still hear from Lisa Ray sometimes. Good people. Um, spiel. I still have a good relationship with spieler and EC.

Actually I have a lot of interaction with EC. Like that old, you do, you do have a lot of interaction with her as the original crew, but like, uh, like the old school crew. Yeah. Hold on. Standby. Someone just gave me money. My kids are going to go skating today.

We're going to get eat lunch. Cons Costas on a Poluis 50 euros. That's I think that's a lot of money. That's like an hour of private lessons in jiu-jitsu. Awesome water polo coverage, but love for these type of conversations. And Miranda rocks. You know what's crazy is like I have three pages. I have notes.

Like I told myself I was not going to prepare for this podcast. And I prepare for every podcast. And then at like 9 o'clock last night, I stayed up until midnight preparing for this podcast. We have not talked about anything I prepared for, but I'm stoked. I'm still stoked. Do you know that feeling? Yeah. Okay.

Sorry. Thank you, Ana Palousis. Is this a member of yours? Costas Antonopoulos. Is that a real last name? Is that a city? Thank you. She speaks and reads people.

We have a lot of foreign members that's for sure uh where what were we talking about um being being oh wait wait so so you gave everything yes so you gave everything up all the success all the prestige of your position the paycheck yeah all the protect street your position, the paycheck. Yeah. All the protect street parking, which you didn't even know existed. Yeah. Still was in the ether. I started helping Julian owned a meal prep company at the time. Oh, sorry.

We were talking about the people who talked to you and you were on EC. Sorry. Sorry. Yep. EC. I talked to her. We interact just through DM and stuff like that quite a bit. to her like we interact just through like dm and stuff like that quite a bit um chase ingram said reach out to me after i made that post about dave i mean i feel like i have a good relationship i

don't regularly not say any more names like that you're just gonna start all of them i mean he's posted some stuff about it too so um but yeah i still i still talk to i mean we we traveled the world together i was with these people more than anyone. I was on 12-hour flights with them and in foreign countries trying to figure out where we were going and everything. It was crazy. So this company, Ancestral Supplements, I took their supplements, and I've been – for like over a year, I've been reaching out to the guy. When I was doing the Meet the Parents podcast, I wanted – he's a father, um, the owner of the company. And I wanted him to come on and talk about raising kids. I liked what he was doing with his kids. It was kind of hard

to find. And they said, no, he's not going to be on podcasts at this time. And the guy's Instagram account had like at the time, like 200 followers. And I think now he's cresting over a million. I think like he's just, he's just exploded. But so then I said, Hey, do you want to give me some money? I just text him. Do you want to give me some money to help me cover water Palooza? Like low stress. But if you want to, that would be cool. I'm going to try doing this experimental way of covering an event. I'm going to do a live behind the scenes. So I had people roaming around there with iPhones. And then I had all the windows on my screen. I'm like, go to camera two, go to camera three. And like, you'd be in Richard's hotel room or you just be in different places. Right. And it was cool. And so this guy, he's like, yeah, I threw some cash at it. And I

go, Hey, do you want me to push your, your supplements? And he goes, no, he goes, I'm all this guy right here. Oh, I didn't know he was the owner. Is he the owner of ancestral supplements? Yeah. Yeah. And, and so, um, I said, um, he crossed over a million. Holy cow. So basically they said, no, we're not, we're not, we're not selling supplements. Like that's not our promotion. I go, what's the promotion. And it reminded me so much of what you're saying, what Greg's saying. Our promotion is just to eat organ meat. And then if you're fucking too much, yeah, if you're a pussy. Yeah. And that's why you never see, you hardly ever see him selling it on his Instagram. Yeah. I knew that guy was tied to it, but I didn't know he was the owner. Oh, he's so cool. He's so nice. He's so smart.

We've talked about him a lot lately, actually. When he writes me emails, I can't believe how well he writes. Sorry, sorry. Go ahead, Miranda. He's just really funny. I mean, on some level. Okay. So on some level, he's gotta be, he's, he's playing, not that any, not that any of what he's doing is like super duper fake or anything like that. He really believes all this stuff and everything,

but some of the stuff that he does, it's like a little bit of a caricature of himself. Right. Of course. Of course. Of course. That's what I was telling Helene. I was like, he doesn't actually climb the rope to eat meat on a daily basis, but that's – Yes. Yeah. It's a caricature of himself.

Yeah, and I don't even think he's trying to claim that. No, and people that think that he's trying to claim that are just they're goofball they're goof they're they're like there's new one there's new ones there it's just like this person i like i when i come on this podcast it's me magnified by 10 this isn't how i am of course like i walk on the beach and i don't say a fucking word and i just look at my kids and i'm like google gaga this is just where I come and throw a tan temper tantrum. Or I mean, it's like what we were saying before, like there's stuff I hide from the, like at my kid's birthday party. I don't, I don't post me personally. I don't post myself eating my kid's cake. If I, because I'm the, I'm the no sugar, no refined carbohydrates is the cure to everything guy.

Right. You know, that's something that Nicole taught us on the seminar staff is it's like, don't try to, you know, don't try to be Andy. Like you're not Andy. You can't try to like you, but you need to be a bigger version of yourself during those times. And that's something that we tell our, our staff all the time, especially the coaches that are on the, the demo videos and, and interacting with the members on, on, on YouTube videos and things like that. It's like, don't, don't try to be me. Don't try to be Hooli and just be a little bit of a bigger version of yourself, like amplify your, who you really are. So yeah, that guy does a really good job of that. who you really are. So, but yeah, that guy does a really good job of that. There's people out there. Have you ever picked up a hitchhiker?

No, no. I can't pick up hitchhikers as a female. Come on. Yeah. You can't, huh? No. What about another, what about a female hitchhiker? Um, I don't think that I would pick up a hitchhiker at all nowadays. Like it's just too, I have kids. Well, now you have a hitchhiker at all nowadays. Like it's just too, I have kids. Well, now you have kids.

Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I, um, there was a,

there was a old lady I had seen around town and it was raining the other day. And she was at a bus stop. It was really cold. It was probably like 40 degrees. It was, it was drizzling, which is weird for California. Cause usually when it's raining, it'll be like 50 degrees. We don't get like rain and cold here. Like you guys get there. Like if it's raining,

that means there's cloud cover and it warms up a little bit. And so it's like 40 degrees and it's drizzling. And I'd seen her around town. She's an older lady and she's hard of hearing. Cause I've said hi to her before. And she's, she's kind of, she's a little bit of a mess. Just sitting at this bus stop. And I got my three kids in the car. And I drive past her. And it's raining. And I'm just like, oh, fuck.

Circle around the block. There's the thing like, am I just the fucking creep weirdo, right? Like I'm stopping at a fucking. But I'm like, I got my kids with me. So how creepy can I be? And I stop at the bus stop. And I go, hey. And she goes, hi. And I'm like, do you want to ride and I stop at the bus stop and I go hey and she goes hi and I'm like do you want to ride where are you going she goes oh it's all totally and

she tells me this part of town that's like not where I'm going at all and she's like no you don't have to you're going this way I'm going this way and I go no no I'm actually going that way I lied to her she's like okay she got in the car and I drove and I drove her and I felt so good about it I was like yeah I did good and this world is so this world is so weird that like the only reason why it was okay is because she's an old lady because I'm a dude who has three kids and little kids in the car oh yeah because otherwise both of you would be like questioning the intentions of the other person yeah and really it was just like the my sole thing was is like that sucks and i can fix that i've definitely thought about it i i see people because it rains here

constantly i see people walking in the rain or kids walking home from school where it's like yeah you can't stop and help a kid you're fucked you're going to jail when i was a 12 year old girl i would love to have had somebody give me a ride you know if i was walking in the rain but you can't no you know what we've been we read and as a parent i don't want anyone stopping and helping my kid either fuck you no keep driving we read these books and one of them that knocks that really loves is about it's like a stranger danger book with this little dragon that the kid's teaching his dragon how to be safe around strangers. We taught Knox that if a stranger asks him his name, because in the book it says just to ignore them completely. But we taught him how to say no hablo.

Well, he speaks Spanish. Both of our kids are bilingual. And so we just said, if somebody asks you your name and it's somebody that you don't know, just say no hablo ingles. And so that's what he does. It's so funny. I love it. Yeah. What are you going to do today?

You're on the same time I am, right? It's 10 a.m.? Mm-hmm. What are you going to do today? I'll probably work from home today. Like I said, we got a new office and it's really nice. It's really cool. But a few days a week, I still got to work from home because when I go there, it's a lot of, Hey, do you have a second? Or can I talk to you real quick? Or can we have a meeting about this really quick? And it's hard

for me to get into like a, like a flow for creating workouts or creating newsletter type content and things like that. So I'll probably work from home today. And then the one like bougie, like well-off person thing that I do, that's like, I'm a little bit embarrassed about, but I, is I, I don't wash my own hair. I have a lot of hair. How often do you, how often do you wash your hair? Once a week. I go to this place, they wash it and they blow dry it and they do it. And I sit on my computer and work the whole time. It was kind of like a cost benefit analysis that I did. And if I do all of that, first of all, I probably won't do it and it won't look very good. And I'm

on camera almost every day. So it so it's tax deductible yes exactly so i go every thursday and i on my rest day because today's a rest day for me and uh i'll go get my hair washed and and and then when i come home our photographer who doesn't live here full time he's in town and he's gonna come take pictures i gotta i gotta fucking cook the dinner tonight it's dinner it's the recipe night um so i'm doing i like how you lean in like okay everyone don't listen to this i'm gonna tell savannah's secret now i haven't even decided what i'm gonna make yet but um he our photographer is gonna come and get some pics of our family i've never done like the like maternity photos like have you seen these photos where people get like a ball gown and they're like standing in a in a lake and you're they're like and i'm like what are you

where are you gonna put that like that's so well said well described yeah and i they're beautiful the women look beautiful but it seems very forced and and inauthentic to me i guess so he's gonna come take pictures while crew is still in my belly with the boys running around and me cooking dinner and just here in our home. Some more candid shots. Do you ever feel like there's too many people in your house? Always. Like, dude, why is that hallway being painted on a Saturday? Who the fuck is that fixing the – why is there someone in the yard mowing it right now?

When can I walk around naked here? Why is there someone in the yard mowing it right now? When can I walk around naked here? So there are a lot of things that I'm still learning whether or not they are because Julian is Mexican and it was him and his brother and they did it out of their house, which was illegal in California, but they did it. And there would be just like a bowl of all the different meats that they had made that week, any that they didn't use to put in the meals. And it would just be in their fridge uncovered and they would pull from it to eat. would just be in their fridge uncovered and they would pull from it to eat. And I never said disgusting because Julian was one of the first people. I mean, I grew up in Salt Lake city, Utah, right. And my other Mexican people that I knew were Dave Castro and Garrett Fisher and like,

not real Mexicans, you know, racist, racist. I was like, this has got to be like a cultural thing where they just, you know, they throw all the meat in a bowl and they put it in. So I never said anything. And then over time, I learned that that wasn't true. I can't remember how I figured out that that wasn't that was just them being gross men in their 20s. And I was like, oh, my gosh, I always thought that was like a Mexican thing. I didn't want to say anything because I didn't want to like offend you that this is gross um but one of the things is that people just show up at our house all the time relatives random cousins uncles um workers like anyone come in a lowrider anyone come in a lowrider no not no i mean his cousin his cousin's

kind of like that his cousin is awesome he might be listening right now, so I won't out him, but Alex, his cousin, I, I freaking love him so much. He's got some interesting tattoos anyway, but, um, right now outside of my front door, which is like literally like 15 feet away, there are two of, um, these Mexican dudes that are painting are the front of our doorway yeah and there's always there's always people here like that and um yeah but one of the reasons that we got our office is because in four or five years we filmed everything at our house so anything that needs to be filmed even if we're not in it means that there are people in our garage oh oh oh yeah that's a lot it is excuse me julian we're gonna have to fight later there's people coming over hi sweetheart oh we have i mean you guys are like in an epic fight and someone comes in you're like hi like you're hiding we have fought in front of cleaning people we have fought in front of our employees I've had like meltdowns and had to like apologize to the employees like several times because, I mean, they're out of the house. I feel like I have to apologize to my kids every day.

Don't do what dad just did there. I'm really sorry. Honey, I'm sorry. Haley, I'm sorry. Yeah. And his mom lived with us. So when we first moved in together and I was pregnant with Knox, his mom lived with us and we were starting street parking and oh my gosh, yeah. And one of our friends lived with us for a while when we first moved here.

It was a lot. There's always been way too many people in our house, yes. I need to have you on more often. I'm making all sorts of money. I feel very fortunate that Miranda was my flow master at my L1 in 2012. She left a lasting impression. My family have been street parking members for a few years now. Absolutely love it. Thank you, Eli. Eli Arnau. I'll give you $20.

That's as much as a whole month of membership. I'm building up. This is quite the posse that this podcast is getting kind of crazy. Yeah, you told me that. Yeah. I mean, I didn't have to brag to somebody. I think it was you trying to convince me to actually schedule a time to come on because we were trying to get it for like months. Hey, there's this, there's a doctor I asked to come on the other day. She has like 300,000 followers and she just said straight up. She said, um, can you show me your metrics? I mean, I think that's great. Totally. You got to get cost-benefit analysis.

Yes. And I'm doing the more popular shows first, and I sent her to them. She goes, okay, cool. Let's schedule it in a week or whatever. Nice. I want to go back to the thing where you pay someone to wash your hair while you work. And I want to tell two quick stories. There's this thing where people say, hey, that's a waste of money. And I used to talk like that too. And it really just screams of how stupid you are and how ignorant you are. So like recently I saw this

thing, the state of California is wasting $16 billion on reelection. You, you do not. It's like, it's like when people say you wasted time, you know, you, you'd haven't, you can't do that. You could have spent your time on ways wisely, you, you'd have, you can't do that. You could have spent your time on ways wisely, but you have no control over time. You are not wasting it. You're not creating it. You ain't doing shit. You're living a delusion when you think that it's hard to get your head wrapped around, but that shit's just going. The illusion of time is coming and going and you, you, you, it's all in your control what to do there. You come on my show. You can not come on my show. You can, you can, you can do there. You can come on my show. You can not come on my show.

You can smoke heroin. You can do whatever you want. The same thing is true with wasting money. You think that if they spend $16 billion on campaigns, it's a waste of money. You think that if someone goes to get their hair washed, it's a waste of money. Do you think the lady who washes Miranda's hair thinks it's a waste of money when she takes that check from Miranda and then uses it to buy her son socks? Do you think that that lady thinks it's what, where, where and when did it become a waste of money? I really want to know because, because you don't like the way it's spent because, because you think that she should have, um, done what with it and

fuck this lady and her kid out of a new pair of socks? It's cold in Washington. It's just nuts how people think that. Like, I bought a Bentley and it's a waste of money? Do you want to tell that to the guy who washes only high-end cars and uses that to put his kid through college? Like, shut up. You sound, you're,

in the thinking world, you're an insect. You're a selfish insect. You're like a mosquito. Stop. Go out there and work and waste your own money. Waste your own time. That way you can tip the shit out of the cute boy who says thank you to you at Starbucks. You can give him a $ dollar tip and change his life i think where i get um going back to that

like pressure to that we have for like our persona to be a certain thing for people so that they can they can latch on to our message or whatever i think um the reason that i feel weird about that is because then it's easy for people to be like, Oh, well, she doesn't even wash her own. Like she's high maintenance and she's privileged or whatever, because she has money. And like, you don't really know what it's like for me. And in many cases, I don't, because I'm not a single parent who struggles to make ends meet and things like that. So, and I'm the first to admit that I don't know what that's like, but people have a tendency to not want to listen to the advice or wisdom or whatever I am giving that has nothing to do with the fact that I get my hair

washed. I know what I'm talking about when it comes to fitness and nutrition because of the years of experience and everything. And I, and I will simplify it to you to the point where you can do it, even if you are the single mom who has very limited time and very limited resources. But as soon as somebody learns, well, she goes and gets a blowout, which is what it's called when you go get your hair washed and done, then it's like I can't relate to her anymore. Like she doesn't get me. And so it's like this weird balance of like living my life the way that I want to live it. And we are very simple in most ways, but that's like one of those bougie things that I do, um, that I get a little bit nervous about people finding out about little things like that, because then they immediately like,

don't trust you anymore because you're this bougie, whatever person. So it's weird. My mom, um, was an attorney and she was charging four hundred dollars an hour and she was very successful and she couldn't stop um the clients pouring in she kept raising the rates to stop the clients from pouring in and they kept fucking pouring in and we go to the apple store one day which was um in walnut creek california and my mom lived in benicia california which is like a 15 mile ride. And then there's a toll over the bridge, which is $5 and the price of gas. And we went to the Apple store there and she bought a computer or something. And I said, mom, you should get that mouse right there or something with it. And it was like a $40 mouse. And the guy said, hey,

why don't you test this out first? And then if you like it or don't like it, then you can come back and get the mouse. And my mom listened to him listened to him i go no no put put the mouse in there and my mom said why why i'm like you charge four hundred dollars an hour this trip took two hours the gas is ten dollars the bridge each is five bucks like like if you don't want that for like i'm telling you that there's a good chance you want this, and if you don't, then we can bring it back or we can figure something else out. But this guy was like, people are doing different things too. Don't project your world onto what other people are doing. If this can save Miranda 30 minutes so that she can read a book every night to her son or if it buys this other lady a pair of socks like you don't know what's going on yeah another thing that i trip on too is is that i met a lot of people i spent a lot of time in africa and i remember speaking to this guy there one time and he's like

hey i would it's cool that in america you can borrow money to buy a house and this guy lived um literally in a cardboard hut with a corrugated steel it was a trip that the cardboard could hold it up um like just i think it was in malawi and i tried to explain to him there's a ton of great things in america but how many people do we know miranda that at 30 years old buy a house get a 30 years mortgage on it and put their head down and work and then look up at 60. Oh yeah. Is that living? Yeah. Is that living? Not to me. Not to me. It's just like the path that requires the least amount of, uh, not effort. It's not that it's not hard to do that because it's, you know, you got to go to work and you got to do, you got to be responsible and show up and you can't become a drug addict, you know, to do that.

Well, I guess some people can. Well, you can, you can get drunk every weekend and get fat and watch the Superbowl and. Yeah, so it's hard in certain ways, but it's also easy because it's just accepted and it's normal and you don't have to think outside the box or, or there's, there's a lot less risk involved in just going with what's what what's been shown to work i guess if that's the word you want to use i asked someone the other day who was on the podcast what uh why'd you get married and their response was because you're supposed to oh i was fucking like like well i'm not prepared to i guess i'm

not a great podcaster i'm not i'm not prepared to respond to that i was just like i well i think i said what do you mean you're supposed to like i i was just like that's not even true anymore actually that you're supposed to yeah i feel feel, I read a statistic recently that there's like, like the nuclear family is like, it's a minority now to have a mom and dad and kids and have the parents be married and they're all in the same house. Like it's the lowest number in history or something like that. It doesn't mean, it doesn't mean it's okay, right? No. Yeah. Yeah, it was just an interesting. history or something like that it doesn't mean it doesn't mean it's okay right no yeah it was just an interesting i i was i was um i i don't want to say shocked but i was um surprised by how low it was yeah it's a bummer it's a bummer man it's a bummer but were your

parents divorced no they're still married. Oh. My parents were divorced. I come from a very religious Mormon family. And my family, my parents are really the only ones that are super religious. None of my siblings are, but yeah. And as a kid, you only know, like it didn't seem bad to me as a kid. It was just all I knew.

I had this lady on yesterday uh miranda so um she's a she was a two-time olympian she won the gold medal in judo she's the first american ever to win the gold medal in judo she went to the olympics in 2012 she went to the olympics in 2016 and she's she's about i think she just signed or she she's won uh this um fighting competition two years in a row each each year she's won a million dollars and now like there's all this hub about her um she's 12 and 0 as a professional fighter there's all her name's kayla harrison and there's all this hub about her that she's gonna be like the greatest fighter who ever lived and i invited her on the podcast and i was just like and she said yes and i'm like holy shit i can't believe she's coming on and then i so i

look it up and i see that she's written a book right right? So I'm like, Oh, I'll get this book and I'll read it and I'll impress her. The entire book is about how she was molested from when she was eight years old to when she was 16. Wow. So it went from, it went, this podcast went from like, I'm so your interview. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The whole, could you imagine if you would have done the interview without ever reading the book and never bringing up what her book was about? Well, the podcast started like that, too. She's like, I'm like, hey, I guess I guess we got to just go. I bought this book and I read it.

And like, I don't know if I like I'm glad I read it, but I don't know if I would recommend it to anyone because it fucked me up. Like, it's going to change my view of the world forever. What she says in the book. Yeah. the world forever what she says in the book yeah and um and she goes and i go we good just diving in here and she goes i do hundreds of interviews with thousands of questions with the same dumb shit i'd love to talk about this book you know i i totally get that oh her phone died one hour and 40 54 minutes with miranda alcarez god it's cool i like her more than when we started agreed i already liked her she's pretty dope yeah that was smart that her husband came in and gave

her a kiss definitely staged smooth it's a 54 minute mark if you want to see it was 60 minutes ago at the 54 minute mark i'm gonna she's gonna text me oh my god i'm so sorry my phone died hey that's a great way to end oh nope there she is oh my gosh i don't know it just like literally turned like my phone just went back to its home screen i assumed it was i don't worry caleb comes on and fills for you he just starts talking hi i'm miranda well uh what i was gonna say is um i i don't like doing CrossFit podcasts anymore because like the number of times, like how many times can I talk about how I broke my neck in the car accident? And it's not that it's not a cool story cause it is a really cool story. And I know it impacts people, but it's like, they don't know, or they haven't researched past 2012 of my life. And it's

really kind of like, yeah, I feel like it's, it gets old. How often do you do podcasts? I was doing a lot more of them. Maybe like a year ago, I would, I would pretty much go on anyone that would reach out. This last year, we were really busy because we were releasing a new platform for street parking. And again, like cost benefit analysis, I just needed to be more focused on that. And then I'll take a break, obviously, when the baby comes. So it has like peaks and valleys. Have you ever done just a straight business interview?

Kind of. Has Forbes ever reached out to you or anyone like that? No. It's so weird. anyone like that no no it's so weird they'll do a piece like on 24-hour fitness gets a new cmo and it's like this woman and um and they'll really play the fucking woman angle um it's so crazy what you've done has joe rogan ever reached out to you no it's so do you think that a lot of those interviews and and like magazine covers and articles and things like that, do you think that they're because these companies or the person, the individual themselves,

hires a publicist to find those interviews and stuff for them and promote it? Because sometimes I wonder, I mean, even like, I think we had a conversation a couple of years ago where morning, or maybe not even that long ago, you posted something about morning chalk up how they were like listing all of the like big female entrepreneurs. Oh, yes. And they didn't include it for Nicole on there. Oh, no, they had Nicole. They didn't have Katie. You and Katie.

That's right. Did you know that Katie and I were born on the same day, just a few hours apart? No. Uh, same year too. Yep. Wow. And horoscopes are bullshit.

That's weird. That's weird. Yeah. We, uh, we, I still have a friendship with her. I still interact with her,

uh, from time to time as well. I'm sure. I, I, I've asked Bill to be on the podcast before and he says he doesn't do podcasts. I think I asked Katie and she said yes. And then something fell through the cracks. Oh, you should do it for sure. She's awesome. She is awesome. Um, maybe I'll reach out to her

right after this. Um, yeah, you have, uh, I mean, in my scope of the world, I mean, I don't know everything, but you have no peer. What you're doing is really a trip. I just can't believe there's so many things. Like I wouldn't touch any of the topics that I wanted to talk about. I didn't know we were just going to talk about kids. And I guess I wanted to talk about Dave a little bit. But there's so much to talk about your business. Like my goal

was is to basically do this podcast and just be like um uh what is street parking and then to talk about your new platform but like people who don't know you might not even know who like what like they might have listened to this whole thing for two hours and still not know anything about you because i never even contextualize it like they have no idea how what they're staring at they just think you're some girl who had three kids maybe i fucked that up google her ah you can't even google her to fucking you there's no way there's nowhere anyone can go to actually see your success no we but that's that's uh that's okay i mean i mean i know it's okay i'm just saying like how come the dog isn't like hey there's a like how come no one's sniffing at your, in the lawn being like, Hey, there's something

buried here and dig it up. I mean, there's, there's so many, I mean, if I'm Forbes, I do a story on you. It's a great story. It's fucking awesome. It's an inspirational, it's motivational, it's business, it's success, it's hurdles. I mean, it's just, it's entrepreneurial. What's the fucking better word for that? Yeah, I mean I think we kind of – in a way we – I get irritated by it sometimes because I think that people don't see it.

But then I think that there's a benefit to that. I think that being not an underdog, but even for our members, I feel like them being a part of something that feels, again, almost like CrossFit did at first. Right. Where it's special still. It's not just like, oh, yeah, you see, everybody knows what that is. And Miranda's out bragging about, you know, how successful they are and everything like that, where it still feels special. So Forbes does an article on you and then all of a sudden you sold out. I mean, it might come across like that, even if that's not the case.

Right, right. Of course. Of course. I'm blown away again with this interview ah thank you thank you renata miranda is super awesome she is super awesome um thank you i'm i'm i'm gonna save these notes i'm going to um look at i'll just do a live should we do an interview during the home birth? Oh my God. Can you imagine?

Do you guys have a, you guys have a podcast for street parking? Like, like when you guys are all sitting on the couch or something. Yeah. There's a couple of different things that we do. I do some solo pieces where I just like all attack, like one topic for 20 minutes and go over it. Like, like I did a one recently. We're talking about how intensity is more important than volume. And it's like 20 minutes. And then we'll do like one that's like our basic nutritional beliefs and things like that.

And that's just me by myself. And then, yeah, we have our coaches roundtable, which is every couple of weeks. The coaches, myself, Julian, Alex and Jeb, sometimes Carolina, sometimes Molly. We'll jump on there and we'll talk about a topic that we think is relevant for our members and get different perspectives on it and just have a discussion about it. Street Parking Podcast. It's on Apple. Yeah. It's on Spotifyify too 258

thank you you're welcome i'm gonna save my notes and i stapled them i put them next to that saying you come on i don't have to panic just be like yeah i got this happy happy birth happy birthing. Thank you. Sometime within the next three to seven weeks. And then, okay. I'm sure we'll talk again. You think you'd ever come on again? Oh, yeah.

Oh, good. All right. Let's end it then.