The Sevan Podcast - #275 - Jim Bobroski

Episode Date: January 21, 2022

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Bam, we're live. Hey, can you see when we go live or are you just always just like oh shit he went live and didn't tell me the latter i'm just kidding i can see it like what do you see like you see like that red clock pop up in the corner yeah and then i see it says like the red live timer on the top left oh yeah sometimes it's weird it used to be all the Sometimes it's weird. It used to be all the time.

It's not as much anymore. But like right before I'll take a deuce, I won't even know that I have to take a deuce. I'll just start to like not feel like myself. Like 10 or 15 minutes before the deuce comes, like I can't really explain it. And sometimes my arm will start tingling. And I still won't know i have to take a deuce and then and then speaking of deucing can you imagine if your last name was plumber plumber i hardly know her um my arm starts tingling but i know that like hey just go sit on the toilet and take a few deep breaths and then i just take this monster the toilet and take a few deep breaths.

And then I just take this monster deuce, and then it's all gone. Like I'm back. Do you ever have any of that? Back to normal. No, I've usually like before when I was an athlete, before like a game or something, I would feel like just like nauseous. Or like I would just feel like, I guess like an out of body experience, I guess. And then as soon as I would go take a shit, it was like totally fine. Different symptoms, I guess, but similar.

Yeah. I think it's like something pressed. I think it's like something in my intestine. Like there's just a deuce there and it pushes on something in my spine or nerve. There's got to be like some. I wonder if it's just like a visceral reaction to getting on a podcast though. You said you get nervous. No, no, no.

This is before the podcast. Like I could just be, yeah, I could just be anywhere. I do, I do have, but you know what is interesting about the podcast? I read like, so when I wake up in the morning, there's two things I really, three things I really want to do before the podcast. I want to, uh, drink a cup of coffee, um, shower and deuce. And so like, I will just go sit on the toilet and just take, just start just taking crazy deep breaths and then focus all my awareness down, like around my anus until one just appears.

Like I don't push or anything. anything and then and if i don't um it would be weird it would be like working out knowing that you have to take a deuce i i don't i just can't come on the podcast i've actually thought hey i'm gonna postpone this podcast 15 minutes until a deuce shows up but they always show up it's almost like i'm threatening my anus hey asshole no pun intended if you if you don't if you don't open up and let one out, we're not doing the podcast. It's like, all right, all right. Be cool. Do you use the Squatty Potty?

I don't. I don't. But we used to have one at CrossFit HQ. Yeah. And I really liked it. Really? Yeah, I really liked it. And what's interesting is one of my coworkers i really liked it and what's interesting is um one of my co-workers there

really hated it not the squatty potty but he thought that it's a personal item oh yeah i could see that i guess it's like hey i brought this toothbrush is a personal item yeah it's also i always found it super difficult to get into like i have to like i'm like six two so you are that big caleb yeah i had no idea when brian saw me he goes dude you're tall as shit like that's the first thing he told me wow i had no idea but yeah like when i stood when i stand on it it just seems like i'm so far elevated that i'm basically doing an astrograph squat just to get into the toilet bowl. Oh, so you get on it and then get on the toilet.

I never really knew how to get on it. And then I tried it the one time and I was like, nah, I'm good. I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah. I I'm short enough to where like I get on the toilet and then I kick it over with my feet.

Oh, I, I hate that sound that it makes when it rubs on the, the tile. Oh yeah. Just that I fucking, it's like a knife on a plate. I do not like that. Super uncomfortable.

Avi told me if you're having trouble pooping, just sit in the minivan. Thank you. My wife bought me this shirt. My wife bought me sweats that have holiday patterns on them. Okay. And this shirt for Christmas. My wife is so out of character. I can't believe she,

I can't, first of all, we, I never, like, I can't believe she bought me sweats with the holiday pattern. I'm so like conservative about my clothes and she would never say anything like this.

I've never heard my wife say the word bang. She's a fucking yoga teacher. She teaches like breathing and shit. Maybe she thought you were being eccentric. She's like, like she says stuff to me, like, please don't say anything mean to anyone on your podcast today. try to talk without being mean it's like it's like that

and then i'm like this is my shirt for christmas what's wrong with you what's up jim what's up dude how's the audio sound uh good except i don't have my okay the headphones. Hold on. Let me, I'm not doing it right. Ah, now I'm better. Now you're better. Cool. Do you think that this, uh, doing Murph 365 days is like, I'm aging you prematurely? Um, probably at somewhere at some point. I, you've turned into like such a cool looking man. Like you were a boy when you started this shit. Yeah. I've been, um,

I got, now you're like a warrior. Yeah. I've been like, uh, you know, cutting my hair and shaving for the past 10 years on the department. And then I got put in a,

a unit where you don't have to shave. It's like just a desk job, real low key. Um, you don't have to shave or cut your hair. So I've just been letting it roll. It's funny when you said that you were put into a job where you didn't have to shave. I thought it was a totally different job than a desk job. Oh no, no. It's, it's a super chill spot now.

How's a, how's the wife with the beard? She hates it. She does. Yeah yeah do you think that she would learn do you think maybe she'll learn to like it or like she it's not even open to that no she's she's been begging me to cut it um she's like like stubble but she's like you're too handsome to have that covering up your face like man i'll take the compliment isn't it yeah is that what i had to do to get a compliment it's weird it's weird that you know how they say that um girls dress up like to like because of competition like to impress other girls like they dress up and get pretty and get boob jobs and just all that shit just to like um it's weird i think facial

hair is like that yeah for dudes like i'm gonna i'm like in my mind right now i'm about to grow a monster beard and it's like for no other reason except to just flex on other dudes like i saw rory and riches and i'm like fuck this they're solid mine mine not so much um but yeah i've always wanted to have a beard for like hunting season it's pretty sweet so i got to grow it out this year yeah um do you play with it a lot oh yeah i probably i go like this a lot yeah once mine reached a certain height i played with it a lot and i enjoyed playing with it yeah yeah during um, like the beginning of COVID, we had like our department, you can keep your beard like to like a half inch, I think. And during like, we were working crazy shifts during COVID because everybody was like so short, like this, like at the beginning, we had to like stand by the testing sites. And they were like, you can't because of the mask mandate, you had to shave your, your facial hair. the mask mandate, you had to shave your facial hair.

So we all had semi-beards that were like half inch, and I just grew this gnarly mustache. I was curly in the corners, and I would just sit like that all day long. Hey, do you have to get approval from the police department before you come on a podcast? Probably if you're going to talk about stuff with the department, about the department, but this is a health and fitness podcast. Right. And if I asked you something about the police department, you didn't want to answer. You could just say something like, I'm not that I'm not able to speak on behalf of the police department. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

but, but you are able to speak on behalf of people who are attempting to do Murph every single day for a year. Yeah. You did get approval for that. Yeah. How many people do you think are in that club? guys that are doing it. Like, I don't know, maybe right now, currently like attempting it, like under a hundred days, there's probably like 40 or 50. What? Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. I get a new one every single day. If somebody like sending me on Instagram or TikTok them, them doing this. And like, I preface it by saying like, bro, I don't recommend this. Yeah. I was going to ask you that. So you don't recommend it. No, like I would never recommend this to any was gonna ask you that so you don't recommend it no like i would never recommend this to any of our clients um uh here's your prescription yeah yeah oh my god yeah i mean but there are some people i would recommend it to um and i'd be straight up with them and be like dude you're not like this is not optimal for gains or physically to be in prime shape.

Like not optimal at all. There is nothing constantly varied about this at all. Your body looks dope though. Thanks, man. You look like a hardened Spartan. Dude, Hobart's got the programming down. Oh, wait, what do you mean? So every day Hobart says do Murph, he sends you an email?

No, I follow Hobart, so I'm Cap programming. What is that? What is that? How come I don't even know what that is? Is that what Brian Friend is doing too? I know he said he's doing Hobarts. I don't think so because I've hit Brian up on Instagram and like sometimes he's doing some lifts. And I know he got a little bit stronger and asked him if it was Hobarts and he said no.

I think he's just doing his own thing. So cap, I don't know. Like, this is the second time somebody who's fairly versed in CrossFit didn't know what cap was. I don't know why they're not promoting it more, but.

I've heard Hobart talk about it. He's the only one that does. Yeah. He is. He talks about it. Okay. And it's, it's really good.

Um, it's silly. You know, is this what he sold? it's so like you know is this what he sold sorry sorry jim is this what he sold to um hq yeah okay yeah so you know like dot com has a workout every day and um that kind of follows so my workout for my affiliate will typically be the.com workout that day. And it just goes. So like, if you were to go and cross it.com today, I'm pretty sure it's the same workout that my affiliates getting,

but Hobart, like it's pretty genius. The way that I get the breakdown as a coach every single day for every day that week. I mean, it is like, they tell you when people are supposed to go take a piss break. Like it's crazy. It's down to like intensity level for every single workout, like stimulus, the amount of time that it should take people. So like as a coach, it leaves all the guessing out of it. And then at the bottom, there'll be like the level one, you know, when

you get your level one book and you're like going through it and you see like the movement standards, dude, they'll even attach like movement standards and keys in videos of like Hobart doing all squats or whatever. And I can go through and refresh before I go coach a class. Yeah, that's awesome. You know, we had started doing something like that for free before, and then it was shot down by, oh man, those idiots. Yeah. Nicole Carroll, uh, uh, and, and Dave's team was working with my media team and we had started doing this basically. Uh, yeah. It doesn't sound like it was quite that gnarly. It sounds like it was 50% of what you're saying, but it was still pretty

gnarly. It's amazing, man. There's accessory pieces like stretching at the end, a warmup. That's like crazier than any warmup. I've ever done i followed a lot i've done a lot of different programming so you do that and you do murph every day yeah yeah i follow i follow his compete track on there though oh man this is nuts we have to get into this um uh so you guys i met jim on instagram um i always hesitate to bring people on from Instagram because you never know. You're like, oh, this guy's my friend in the DMs. I think once I've done it and it was a complete disaster, I can tell this isn't going to be. Jim's doing Murph every single day. For some reason, I found that and I've just been watching closely. I guess I'm supporting your endeavor. I guess I'm supporting your endeavor.

You wonder if it's like the right thing to do to get on someone's bandwagon who's doing this. Like kind of like cheering for someone at a hot dog eating contest. You're like, you know, after he puts in 30 hot dogs, you're like, maybe it's not good to cheer this guy on anymore. And he's also a police officer and he's also a father. And so I obviously the father thing I have a deep respect and admiration for. And the police officer thing I just trip on because I in the last three years I've watched society declare war on police officers, which is just mind bogoggling to me you have you have doctors who kill 250,000 people a year with medical errors and you have this group of men who are out there fighting on the streets like like go ahead and put into your google alerts police being killed and let that pop up every day sorry Jim to bring this up while you're on no it's all good man like pretty sad. It's, it's very disheartening. Um, for a lot of us that like, I love my job, man. Like when I first started, I like, how old are you? Sorry.

I'm 32. Okay. And I've been, I love your job. I did. I loved it, man. Like I, when I first got on, I would say for the better part of first, like five years, like I would look at my schedule and be happy for the days that I was like on evenings on a Saturday. Cause I knew we were going to do some fun stuff. Like we were going to, we were going to lock up bad guys. We're going to take bad guys off the street. And I was lucky enough that like I worked really hard and got promoted to a unit very fast for like.

Can you describe what a bad guy is to me? So, so people that know. So where I work, man, I'll be like, as I put this the best way that I can. My unit cares about real crimes. Over the course of eight years, a group of 12 of us seized over 900 guns off of people. And these are off of people, man. Like these aren't like search warrants where you go and find 70, 80 80 guns this is interactions with armed people who don't want to be locked up and can't but can't people have guns in the united states what do you mean why would you take guns from people you can if you do it the right way but most of them are convicted felons that we dealt with

right and you know very rare once you've held up a liquor store and got busted for it you're not allowed to carry a gun anymore yeah mary busted for it, you're not allowed to carry a gun anymore. Yeah. Maryland's pretty strict. You're not allowed to concealed carry unless you have a concealed carry permit. Right. And yeah, the laws here are pretty nuts. They don't have a lot of reciprocity either, do they? What was that?

They don't have a lot of reciprocity either. I don't know what that is. Me either. Like if I have a concealed carry permit in Pennsylvania, I can't carry that in Maryland. Right. Yeah. It's just Maryland. Like that 32 state thing doesn't work in the state of Maryland, which I mean, that's a

whole nother thing we can get into. It's kind of nuts. I would say of all those interactions of people that I've pulled over, stopped, dealt with, like maybe like five in my career of thousands of interactions have been like, Hey, here's my concealed carry. Like, wow. No one's, no one's got a concealed carry. Wow. So, so, so taking guns off the street, um, uh, how about, how about pulling over drunk drivers? So this is in my 10 years on the police department, I have never written a DUI. That's because that's just not what you do.

One, I don't know how to. And I'm just being blatantly honest with you, man. Yeah. I didn't think it was cool. Like when I became a cop, like, yes, it's important. I'm glad somebody does it. Somebody does it and keeps the street safe. Right. That's just not me, man.

That's not what I think I was cut out to do or the best that I could use my abilities. I was always going into high crime areas and looking for the baddest dude I could find and the worst crime that I could find. Because when I signed up for this job, as corny as it sounds, like, I wanted to help those who couldn't help themselves. Like, I always stood up for people that were getting bullied and I always felt like that was kind of my place. Um, are you religious dude? Yeah. Not as, not as, not as much as I should be. Not as much as my mother is, but yeah, I know. I believe in God. I wonder if that's what it is. I, um,

I do have a handful of friends who are like devout Christians, like, like, like, like man, like the ultimate neighbors. And they, they, they share with me that they're in the, and they're all in some sort of law enforcement and they tell me that's why they're in it. They feel like their calling is, is that the strong should protect the weak. I feel like that's my calling. I felt like that's been my calling for a long time. Yeah. That's a trip. Yeah. I mean, in a good way, it's in a good way. I mean, I mean, it's, it's better for guys like me. It's better than I'm strong. I should be at the top of the food chain praying on the week. Yeah.

Dudes out and taking their lunch money. It's kind of like, um, you know, that feeling you get when you talk about like protecting your kids and how you would do anything to protect your kids? I just think some of us are kind of wired to have that feeling towards the entire herd of being with everyone. I feel like, I don't know. I don't know. I feel like it's been my calling. Protect those who can't protect themselves. Was your dad like that?

Yeah, my dad was a cop. One of my good friends, maybe one of my best friends in santa cruz is a cop and it's it's crazy when i hear him talk about it like like that he really wants to help people he's like uh um like that's what he wants to do that's why he became a cop big strong crossfitter dude gnarnarly. Like if, like if you see him and you wouldn't run from him. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, it's nuts. It's, it's like, I can't even believe how much he wants to help people. Yeah. And, and I would say that's damn near close to on par with everything. I know every single person that I worked with on my unit felt the exact same way. And then you add that on top of like the brotherhood that you have with those that you work with. I brotherhood that you have with those that you

work with i don't think you can really say that you love somebody until you're prepared to die for them every single time it's a strong metric uh not not and and this friend of mine is a also a um what's that called the cops who train other cops uh train yeah there's like an acronym he says for it like three letters or i don't know field training office fto yeah so so he does some of that too right yeah so those are the guys that sit in the car and when you come out of the academy fresh you they got to put up with a you know fresh rookie in their car and kind of teaching the street. I was lucky. I had a, um, an FTO who was like the shit, man. Like this guy was as bad as they come. Um, and he just loved getting into stuff. So like I was on FTO for 60 days and we had like 49 arrests or something wow and they were legit arrests yeah so that so my

friend so my friend is sometimes an FTO like you know I think he does like you do like a month of FTO and then you get a couple months but anyway when I hear him talk about how hard he is on the people like in a good way and how strict he is it's like no fucking around yeah it's gnarly and I'm like oh I'm so glad it's him teaching other cops i'm so glad it's him that's what i had i had somebody who we were not friends in the car i was you know not scared of him but like i didn't speak up much i didn't touch the radio i went to grab the radio one time he smacked my handle at he said i'll tell you when you can talk on this radio you just tell you just do what i tell you to do that's awesome and about three days in and you reported him to hr for hitting you right no man i respect that dude he told me everything that i know and

um about three days in there was a we watched the hand-to-hand transaction go down and a guy had a you could tell he was clutching his waistband and he was like kind of breaking it down i mean the car is like you see how he just grabbed that twice that's a gun he's not just scratching his nuts like that's a gun and um the guy like kind of looked at us and like started to walk away and then do like the run scurry thing that like all cops know now and he goes go ahead and it was kind of like a prove yourself thing and i've always been kind of fast so i got to go chase that guy down and tackle him and pull the gun out and after that there was like a different relationship in the car he kind of there was a mutual respect yeah that's a cool kind of hazing yeah yeah i know this isn't the point of the conversation but but but but if if uh

if jim would have been a woman you have to wonder if he would have slapped his hand no if if jim would have been a uh black dude you wonder if the black dude would have thought and not because he's a black dude don't get it twisted people that he would have thought that he um he hit him and it was racist like that's the problem like just stop thinking people just stop thinking stop bringing your shit to the story and and and the the only privilege that jim has is that he didn't think of that shit that instead it was he made a story that like oh shit i have iron sharpens iron this guy's fucking serious and you kind of like it there's a group of us that like to be led there's

a group of us that want good leaders and my my fto is black too yeah awesome yeah ah I'm glad we planned that story out before you came on yeah and it's cool man that's like one of the like obviously it's not all we're going to talk about but um you know I grew up in the suburbs like can black dudes do Murph too yeah of course man are you kidding me I'm very kidding you yeah um how about armenian dudes can armenian dudes do murph yeah man hey the taliban can do murph i hope you're not i know that's gonna trigger someone but they can i hope you're jumping jacks though why not i don't get that joke well i'll show you just there's like a training video of them trying to uh american troops trying to teach them how to do a jump and jackson

not taliban but i think it was like um iraqi police or something okay sorry so you were gonna say so um you were gonna tell a story about he was that your field training officer was a black dude oh yeah yeah so i didn't have like a i grew up in like a super white community um for the most part like most of the guys that i knew growing up were white and i went and worked in like a that looks like my four-year-old doing jumping jack um and i work okay go ahead whitey talk And I work in like a 95% black community And I think our department's actually now is like 50-50 But the whole racist thing towards police It kind of, I'm like baffled by it

Because all the guys that I work with on the street Most of them, like my FTO was black. And I don't know anybody that has a racist. I don't personally can't speak on it. Other than my experiences. I don't know anybody that's racist. I don't know how you could work there and possibly be racist when you're protecting a 95% black community. And you're working with black officers who love like your children like you know you have that same connection with them like i would die for them i love those dudes i don't give a shit what color they are and um yeah so it kind of it kind of makes me mad and

pisses me off when people bring up the racism thing because i just i don't see it i never saw it do you know why you don't see it because you don't have that story in your head you're not you don't got some story in your head you didn't let like there's you have other stories in your head your stories in your head are like i want to be a cop so i can protect people i love my wife i can't wait to get home and see my daughter my favorite food is steak you don't have the the whole reason why those people say all those people out there who are like all white people are racist it's because that's it's so simple that's just the

story they have in their head and for some reason they can't drop it yeah do you think it and they're and they're enforcing us to they want us to jump on board with it and they like dude i don't even care if you have that story stop don't don't make me jump on board with it go ahead sorry sorry caleb go ahead by the way caleb's in the air force by the way so like he'll probably get out and I don't even care if you have that story. Stop. Don't, don't make me jump on board with it. Go ahead. Sorry. Sorry, Caleb. Go ahead. By the way, Caleb's in the air force, by the way. So like he'll probably get out and become a cop or some shit. Do you think it helps that you're always out in the community having conversations with those people? And by those people, I just mean like everybody.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. They're real people to you. They're not just something you see on TV. They're not just rappers. Yeah. And that's the, that's the point that I bring up to people a lot that are like, um, I mostly have these people that I try not to like their names out there or anything, but like super left people, like when this whole police thing came out, like we're pushing against it. And I'm like, Whoa, like, dude, you don't live the life that I live. You don't interact with these people. You don't have, you've never laid your life on a line for these people. You've never done the shit that I've done. You couldn't walk a fucking mile in

my shoes. You'd shit down your leg. So you don't really have a place to talk about this right now, bro. I spent a ton of time in Africa, months of my life in Africa. And for two years, I lived in a, um, all a neighborhood where I was the only white dude, life in africa and for two years i lived in a um all a neighborhood where i was the only white dude me and my dad and my stepmom and i just it's just crazy that uh and none of the stereotypes that you have about black people the part where the whole facade breaks down where you just realize it's like has nothing to do with skin colors when you go to africa like those aren't like they don't have black culture there they have african culture there they're nothing like the black people here it's it's like not that not that all the black people

here are something the same way but but you know what i mean the the stereotypical like one you see on tv just like white people like like the french white people are so weird like i don't know any white people in the united states who um wash their face with their first piss every morning and yes that's the thing that white people do in France, I think. It's like, it's crazy to think skin color has anything to do with it. It's how you're fucking raised. Skin color is like science. It has a lot to do with poverty, man.

I think that some of the misconceptions and some of the... Could we go deeper than that? Yeah. Could we say that it has to do with the fact of how you're raised? Because like, I don't think. That goes hand in hand. That goes hand in hand. Right.

I just hate, the reason why I don't like to say it's poverty is because then people in California think, well, then we need to give more money to people. No, that doesn't, it doesn't work that way. Yeah. No, it's not. It's not. I think that there's probably a huge connection between, if you look at like the number of males that are incarcerated or have been convicted of a crime or something or a police report, and then you, you look at,

were they raised by a single parent? Did they have a parent at all? And their poverty, I think that all of those kind of go hand in hand, like culturally with poverty stricken areas. Right. I guess maybe that's a better way to say it. Right. No, no, no. No. If you don't have a good, good family and then, and then if you don't have a good family,

shit's going to go sideways for you regardless. But there are people who are extremely successful who come out of that hardship. Yeah. I think everybody has a way to turn. Like you have a, at some point in your life, there's a direction you choose, you know, with the cards that you're dealt, you're either going to be a victim of it, or you're going to push against it and make something out of it. What day are you on with your Murph? Uh, 235. Today's two 36.

Dang. today's 236 dang why did you end up with a desk job how do you go from it just kind of happened that way I can't really go into it okay and does that give you more time to do same um, Murph?

Um, same hours and everything. It just, I'm able to do it. Um, like my hours are set now. Like, so it's easier to have a schedule, but like, even when I was on the street, I was working like day work one week and then evenings one week. So like I would work from like 10 a.m. till 8 p.m. on day work. And then evenings would be like 6 p.m. to 4 a.m. And I'd wake up at 4 a.m. or 3 a.m., whatever the hours were adjusted to that day. And, you know, I'd sleep for my seven, eight hours and I'd wake up and I'd always work out. Adding Murph is an hour, man. And that's how everybody says, like, how do you do it with work? Well, I'm like, it's an hour.

How do you not commit to an hour every day? It's time management. You don't have any time management. Do you do your workout before or after you do Murph? So it depends. So I work two jobs, too. I coach, and then I also personally train, too. Wow. So typically like if

I'm working from six to two, I'll wake up at four. I'll do some version of monostructural cardio in my garage or a strength piece and then go to work and then get off of work and I'll do Murph or I'll do whatever Hobart programs that day, Metcon wise or strength wise or both and then do murph and then i coach my class and a lot of times end up jumping in with the class so wow so that'll be a third workout yeah man i would work out for eight hours a day if i could so so you so most of the time when you do murph and your workout it's it's all one uh package it's not like okay do Murph in the morning then come back at night and get in my other workout no I don't I don't really have it I mean it's too cold right now to do really I don't want to do Murph the first thing I wake up

kind of want to warm up so like I'll jump on the rower or the salt bike and do like some monostructural cardio if I work out in the morning um during the summertime I was doing Murph in the morning and then going to work and then doing my strength and Metcon afterwards. But like right now, just schedule wise, it works out better for me. The second I get off of work, I go straight to the gym and I hit my Metcon, my strength piece, and then go right into Murph. And then I coach my classes and do my personal training. coach my classes and do my personal training man um have you met anyone who who says that they've done murph for 365 days already yeah i talked to a guy on um instagram who's he's done it before his name is graham desert is he a cop no no He got COVID during his run for 365 too.

Oh, no kidding. Yeah. When did you get COVID? It was like a month ago, right? Yeah. The day after two days after Christmas. And so I assumed you didn't work during that time. They sent you home for two weeks?

Yeah, dude. So I went, I went into work that Monday after Christmas and I was like, you know, I'm pretty healthy. I do CrossFit. Like, I know when something isn't right with my body. And I was like, the day before I did MRF, double press MRF, so MRF plus 100 double presses. And I probably did 150 GHDs that day, too, in a workout. And then I was like, man, is like really sore like I have good form on all those movements like it shouldn't be that sore and then the fever crept in and I went

and told my boss I was like I got to get out of here like I'm pretty sure I got something going on I'm sick and with everything going on I should probably leave she said yeah and then I got home and I tested negative and I was like what the? And then my fever like really shot up. And I was like, man, it's like five o'clock. We're on day 210. Like there's no way I'm giving up this 210 days. I just busted my ass for a fever. I just threw on a hoodie and some sweats and went out there and knocked out Murph.

Wow. And when did you end up testing positive the next morning uh same kind of test yeah yep my my my wife and i um got sick and the kids were all sick and when i mean sick i just mean like running noses and shit and just like yeah just like working out didn't feel right so we went to a friend's house who works for a company um that has like a thousand employees just under a thousand employees and he's in charge of like all their medical shit yeah so he had some tests so just right out there in the street in front of his house we you know swabbed ourselves up and we tested and we tested uh we tested negative and then the next and then the next day my wife lost her taste and her smell and so she went back and tested again and she tested positive yeah i never tested again

and my kids never tested again i mean you had it had it. And we all slept in the same bed. I think I have it now. Really? Again, yeah. I mean, I saw something about a month ago saying that, like, the estimates are that everyone in Europe will get it in the next 30 days or some crazy stat like that, right? And then all of a sudden, like, even one of my friends who owns a CrossFit gym, every single person – this is kind of a funny story. Every single person who works at his gym who is vaccinated except for him, and everyone there got COVID except for him. And then everyone I know who went to Guadalupalooza I feel like got it. Like a homeboy up there in the corner. Uh,

Caleb got it. Uh, Susie got it. Uh, I wonder if we'll plumber got it. Will, do you got the COVID? He said he did. He called in the other day and said he did.

Hi, Jason. You really think I look good? That's crazy. I'm, I'm, I'm about, maybe it's just a shirt.

Maybe you just see the word bang and you're getting all, you get stimulated, stimulated. Oh, well, so – oh, Branstetter got it. No, he's just saying we got it on the plane. We didn't get it at Waterpalooza. Oh, no, they did get it. I mean, same with the games.

Everyone – Dave came back from the games, a couple other high-profile people that you all know. Like, I know a dozen people who had got at the games i heard that the entire media team at the games um was just got slammed like two days before the end of the games last year i mean that's i mean there's no stopping it i i shouldn't tell this story about my mom but about a day or two my mom calls and goes it's inevitable isn't isn't it and i go what she goes to get covid i'm like mom i told you that two years ago. Yes, everyone's getting it. It's just, it's like, everyone's, there's no, there's no getting away from it. And I suspect that if you got the vaccine that it's limited your protection, actually.

It's limited your protection. So you do, and do you think it made your covid worse when you did murph i don't know man i don't think so like i had a fever and i was sore and it was hard do you think it helped it probably not you don't think that and i i ask that in all seriousness um i've been sick before and gone out on a gnarly mountain, uh, uh, hill mountain ride. And, uh, when I came back, the sickness was completely gone, but like, like snot poured out of me, like I'd never seen before.

Yeah. Like, like that was definitely happening with me. I had snot, I was blowing snot rockets left and right. Um, yeah, I mean, I'm not a doctor, man. So I don't know if it's good or bad for you, but like it's been 20 days now and like, I'm fine. I woke up feeling pretty sore and I got worse as the day went on. By the time I started Murph, my fever was at 100.3. It's the last thing I wanted to do. My joints were incredibly sore and I couldn't breathe for shit, but pushed through and kept

the streak going. Thanks for all the support. i also don't recommend doing this if you're sick and understand it's not optimal for recovery what did you eat that day like what were you were you taking just like 30 000 milligrams of vitamin c and just going nuts yeah so colin the guy that's always in the comments no i don't know who you're talking about who colin sent me like dude it been wild. Like the people that watch the show are so awesome, man. They are awesome. My DMs are like full of like support from those guys. It's so cool. And he sent me like all this shit I need to be pumping.

He's like, dude, stop drinking Gatorade. Stop electrolyte. Like sugar feeds viruses. Like stop it right now. Just drink water and take zinc and vitamin c and d and b and all that he gave me a list i went out like or we went through the medicine cabinet we had a bunch of it because my wife's like super into vitamins and shit so she had it all prepped and ready to go and i stopped drinking the sugar and just did water but i didn't really eat before

i um did murph that day because I just didn't have an appetite. Wow. Is that, is that your slowest time ever doing Murph when you did it with, uh, in the peak of your COVID? Yeah. Like a straight, like regular Murph. Yeah. But there's been like variations that have been longer than that. I walked, uh, I walked, uh, I put on a 16 pound vest and five pound ankle weights the other day. And I walked like, I was going to say three mile, but I think I'm lying. I walked like a two mile hill walk. Dude, that shit's hard.

Yeah. And the next day my hip felt a little wonky. Did you see the one that I did yesterday? No. What did you do yesterday? I got hooked up with this company bullet and they're bad-ass and they gave me a 45 pound bag, the 20 pound vest on and the 45 pound bag on. And I did a mile on the stair master for each one of the miles. Oh my goodness. That, that crushed me.

So that's 65 pounds. Yeah. It's 45 pounds on my back and 20 on my kit. And why are you wearing a hood? Doesn't that cause you to overheat? I don't have a hood on there. Or you mean a hat? Yeah. I like sweating, man.

I don't know. I just kind of like wearing beanies. How much water do you think you drink a day? I have a half-gallon container. I usually drink three of those a day. FanDueluel casino's exclusive live dealer studio has your chance at the number one feeling winning which beats even the 27th best feeling saying i do who wants this last parachute i do enjoy the number one feeling winning in an

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it's nuts do you ever do you ever finish a workout this is totally off subject you ever finish this workout and like you're totally hungry or you're craving just like something like a sparkling water or something and then if you instead if you just drink a pint of water all that shit goes away and you're like whoa, whoa, that's kind of weird. I'm never really hungry after it. Um, definitely thirsty. Um, what do you do? What, is there anything like you're craving like after like, like in that, in that drink or just water's good enough?

No, just water's good. I love sparkling waters. Like I drink the shit out of those. Me too. I'm trying not to. Cause I had, um, I had the carnivore MD on and basically he's saying that the insides of all those cans are sprayed with plastic and like who knows

and I just hate that shit so I'm trying to get away from it it's the one thing I got right now what? why'd you say it's the one thing you like? give one treat you have yeah don't listen to me don't listen to him I'm doing the no sugar deal you really?

yeah so I'm um we are 10 days into whole foodie. So no preservatives, no sugar, nothing. Are you just eating shit tons of fruit then? How are you keeping this? Okay. Dude, it's been hard because I used to pump like oats and rice because you can't eat grains on this diet either. No dairy, no grains um so it's been hard for me to get the carbs that i need to do all the working out that i do and i definitely noticed a

difference of like there's like sugar burns like rocket fuel and certain carbs burn like rocket fuel meaning like if i'm doing like a super intense like short workout like fran or something like that sugar will kick me into like third, fourth year. Whereas right now I think I'm just obviously running off a lot of fat. Um, so I can maintain like a zone two for a really long time and feel okay, but I don't have a second year. I think the whole 30. Oh yeah. This lady's lost her fucking mind. You know that? Scroll down. This lady right here has completely fucking lost her mind.

Have you ever been to her Instagram account? No. She's gone completely batshit crazy. That's awesome. Completely batshit crazy. Does anyone know her? It's nuts. It is completely – go tread lightly over there but i i highly right if you

want to if you want to dabble in someone's misery go look at the whole 30 lady she's she's you know they say you need to practice what you preach yeah she's like the the or or you practice what you preach what you need to practice the most um She has no faith in the human immune system. Zero. She's a complete hypochondriac, scaredy cat. She is a purveyor of fear. It's nuts. It is nuts. Those of you who keep sending me over to her account, please stop. It makes me lose hope in humanity. She's's a complete wackadoodle and i don't want to interact with her because i i didn't know that my wife like read the book and everything and she's like really into like the gut reset and i'm just kind of doing it yeah maybe the maybe the message is cool you know what i mean just like uh like that guy um uh uh sandusky or whoever that guy was molesting kids i mean he was a great football coach i don't want to take that from or i don't want to take that from him like you know what Sandusky or whoever that guy was molesting kids. I mean, he was a great football coach.

I don't want to take that from him. You know what they did to that guy? Do you know how stupid we are as people? This guy has this insane college fucking football winning record, and then he gets caught. I don't know if it was Joe Paterno or Sandusky. I don't know. It was Sandusky. I know, but I like calling it the Sandusky. Oh, my childhood was tough. I got Sandusky i don't i don't know i just like it was sandusky no i know but i like calling it the sandusky like oh my childhood was tough i got sandusky just like i like saying muslim i don't

know why i just like the sound of those letters duke but uh um um that guy like was molesting kids in the shower and doing just horrible shit. And so to – they took away his wins during that period. Like they reduced his record by like 300 wins. Like you fucking idiots. That doesn't do anything. That doesn't like – No, they should have brought him out in the middle of the public square there and just beat him to death. I mean I don't know about that, but that's better than like, don't lie to yourself. Well, these molesting kids were taken away as 300 wins.

Death in the worst way. owner who is a firefighter loved by the community uh and he he got caught for molesting kids at his gym and then he killed himself and i kind of like wanted to like build a statue in his honor like he's a hero why because he because he killed himself oh oh oh yeah that's the easy way out that's the that's what well in that situation i kind of get that but like and i'm not suggesting that all child molesters go and kill yourself i know you had a fucking hard life i know someone did it to you like i you know you're just hearing too i'm kind of suggesting they do right i i i hear you Right. Fair enough. I ain't hating. But man, that's accountability on a super duper high level. Is it though? Or is it they're taking the easy way out, man, because they're scared of the repercussions of what's coming? I think that's more of it than anything. I guess I just think that if they kill themselves, there's no chance of them hurting any other kids. And at the end of the day.

I don't think any of them have that in mind when they're doing it. I think it's, I think they're taking the easy way out because they know it's coming. Whether they're awaiting trial or they're dealing with the fallback from the community. I don't think any of them are like, I have such a serious problem that I need to save humanity for myself. I don't think they're going to get, they have such a serious problem that I need to save humanity for myself. I don't think I get, I'm not going to get treated very well in prison either. Joe Paterno had his wins stripped for not reporting it sufficiently reporting. What sufficiently? Joe Joe Paul was the head coach and he knew some of the stuff that was, Oh yeah. Why would you strip his wins? That, that, that's what I mean.

Like, why are you lying to yourself? Why can't you just be like,'d be like he's in order to be the greatest football coach in the world. You also have to molest little boys. I mean, I like like how the fuck are you stripping his wins for that? There's no connection. Well, Joe didn't Joe didn't molest any kids or anything. He just apparently there was some things where he covered it up or, you know, I don't really know. He saw someone taking it in the shower, and he didn't report it, so they took away some of his wins. Yeah, I mean, I think that's fair. I think if you see something like that and you don't speak up as a human, you're a piece of shit.

Yeah, but I don't think it's really – I think we're lying to ourselves to – I agree with you 100%. I think we're lying to ourselves to take away his football wins. Well, I'd rather take him into the square, like you said, and throw tomatoes at him, flog him a little bit. Yeah, no, I'm with you on that one one lube his ass up and let some people have adam oh sevan please your mom might be listening yeah i was gonna say your mom's listening hobart's mom's listening to this right now sorry mom so yeah thank you and from the bottom of my heart

i really do mean it you know someone asked me um this someone wrote in the constant seven know how to have fun and it's so funny because all the stuff that i like to do that's like that i used to like to do that i had fun like was all stuff like would that would get the cops to come do you know what i mean like break glass in a parking lot or do donuts or you know what I mean? Like break glass in a parking lot or do donuts or, you know, shoot stuff with my BB gun, go to a parking lot. But boys are so weird, right? We'll sit in a parking lot with a BB gun with our friends and shoot out every light without ever thinking about what the repercussions are that we don't think we're doing anything bad. We're just breaking stuff. Give us something to do yeah i probably wouldn't have done that i was pretty terrified of my father yeah yeah i don't think i was too

scared of my dad i only saw my dad on the weekends my dad was a good dude though he's great i mean he not was he is a good uh-oh uh-oh uh-oh mom it's his fault. It's his fault. He, he, okay. Okay. So, so you get COVID and, um, and, and, but, but it's not just one day. It's not like you just did Murph one day when you had COVID, then you did, you continued to do it. So during, throughout your whole recovery, how long did you have COVID? I mean, like where you're like, something's not right. Dude, something's still not right with my lungs. And it's because like, I'm so in tune with like how I breathe and I'm a workout nerd, man. Like I love it. And I dive deep into like my HRV and where my heart rate's at and like how I feel during these workouts. And my breathing is still not the same. Like there was workouts

that I was doing four months before COVID that like I have written down in log times. And I kind of know in my head where I should be at in those workouts. And I was like huffing and puffing on some of them where I just like couldn't do it. And I just didn't have the aerobic capacity that I built up for years kind of got stripped away from me pretty quickly. And I'm going through it. Wow. And how long ago was that? aerobic capacity that I built up for years kind of got stripped away from me pretty quickly. And I'm going through it. Wow. And how long ago is that? What, 20 days now? Wow. This conversation, this has gone from freaking my mom out about one thing to freaking her out about something else. And I'm fine. I'm fine like on a good good good yeah go with this go with this i'm healthy i'm fine nothing's the issue but like if i'm going 100 in a workout which like what

maybe two percent of the world ever even goes to that place in a workout um i just know that it's harder than it was before but it's not i'm fine man like i think that covid was rough for the first three or four days. And then I got on that assault bike and I said, I'm going to do a marathon on the assault bike with Murph and I'm going to mentally beat COVID right now. Wait, what? So what did you do? Explain that to me. So I did Murph. I broke Murph up into 20 rounds of five, 10 and 15 like Cindy. And before it, I did 1.4 miles on the bike before every round to get my 26.2 miles on the assault bike with Murph.

Oh my goodness. How do you come up with this stuff? Just comes to me, man. I just always think like, what is, what is something somebody else wouldn't do? Sorry. Can you have text messages pouring in? Yeah. Uh-oh. I did a show last night where I discussed – Is it the Dave show?

Yeah, I discussed the collusion. Is that a word? Yeah. I discussed the – I don collusion is that a word yeah i discussed the i don't want to use that word i i did a show talking about the relationship between crossfit hq and the morning chalk up and basically how i had predicted that they would do this they're basically using the morning chalk up to slander dave and like to try to it's so weird it's not just let him go leave him alone but anyway oh it's so ridiculous and basically and justin lefranco and that whole morning chalk up team over there is just a shill for uh um hq to to

do their bidding and then lefranco gets like insights into like what workouts are and stuff like that and trade for anyway i'm guessing that's i'm speculating but whatever they did they're they're going after dave and so i just played I just threw rocks at their house last night for a couple hours. I haven't got a chance to listen to that one yet. I listened to the, um, the girl from street parking last night, but so I'm like one behind me to listen to the Dave one, man, that, that girl from street parking, I got to have on again. That is a, there's a, anyway, they should make her the CEO of Cross crossfit like if the board's this they go get her

there's probably a lot of shit there's a lot of people man that that probably would be great ceos for crossfit that actually love the community love the methodology believe in the methodology have been to their l1s are passionate about everything and it's like how you can only like strip the grassroots away from a culture for so many times before you no longer have a culture anymore. You just have a thing that's working out. Right. Hey, I was thinking last night when I got off. So, so basically I did this show last night and now the text messages are just pouring in from everywhere. Everyone in the community is chiming in. I knew that it would stimulate people, but, but, um, I was thinking last night after I got off, so they bought the company from Greg and of course they have to sell out. They have to. So the Greg's whole thing is,

is like, let's never monetize the brand so that the brand stays really strong. Meaning like, let's never sell supplements off the back of the brand. Let's never like, like not do anything that diminishes the brand value. Let's just keep it super high. But, but just like keeping your gun loaded at all times. Don't ever shoot anybody. Just wave that shit around. Look at me, motherfucker. I got sick. Cause every time you shoot a bullet, you're one bullet weaker, right?

Now you only got five. Like, look at this and never, but, but what, but when he sold the company to those guys, they, they, they have no choice, but to sell out, right? They just have no choice. And I don't mean that even as a bad thing, but what they should have no choice but to sell out right they just have no choice and i don't mean that even as a bad thing but what they should have done is they should have kept dave as the front man as they sold out they should have just um used the equity of dave's image and soul and seal team sick shit and all that and then behind the scenes slowly sold out and instead they screwed up like he was like the only brand value like they had left that's what i thought you know what i mean like they should have just used greg dave like a whore sorry not my mom's listening they should have used dave like

a wet rag and rinsed them out just i don't think dave would have gone for that though he's not a yes man ah a good leader could have done it. Just manipulate him. Keep him in his little bubble. Make Dave think that it's still tough and hard. And meanwhile, you're just peddling all the CrossFit supplements and shoes and compression shorts. How would you manipulate somebody like Dave? I would have loved to have tried. And gotten rich doing it. Either way, they screwed up. I mean, even if you couldn't have done it, you got rid of them and now the whole thing's exposed yeah yeah now we're just looking at a bunch of

serial executives and uh um like like like dave was standing in front of you now we just got a bunch of white uh jewish dudes like like like oh you guys are at the top of the food chain nice to see you shalom yeah it's that and i ain't hating on the Jews. I got three little Jews. I love a Jew. I hope they fucking take over the world. That, um, the, the firing of Dave kind of like,

and I did a Murph that day where I said like, it kind of affected me more, more than I thought it would because, um, like when I got into CrossFit, it was because it was made for the military and police to stay fit for duty. And I think that there was like a strong tie with like Dave and the connection and everything.

And it's the reason I got into CrossFit is so I could save my life when the opportunity came up and work where I needed it. And I just think the slower you keep pulling these pieces away of what make it what it is, like you're just losing it. You're going gonna lose it eventually if it's not already lost the the part when you start worrying about inclusivity you can't be like hey we're not gonna do we're not gonna do air squats because a certain percentage of the population can't squat below parallel that's not what crossfit's about and you nailed

it um it's a little different in my perspective of what Greg was doing. It wasn't necessarily made for first responders and law enforcement in the military, but because Greg was trying to optimize human performance, health, and longevity, how long you live, that community embraced it at the highest level because of course your fitness is a direct correlate of your ability to survive in the field of play in the theater what they call the theater and so that community embraced it and greg's like oh cool then i'll run with that and and and uh and it was great and that still is the base like everyone knows like you want to prep for the police academy, join a CrossFit affiliate.

I prep for becoming a going to be a paratrooper. Go to. I mean, I can't say that enough. I cannot say what you just said. I cannot say that enough to people that I've had a bunch of people reach out to me that want to be cops or want to go to selection for the police department. You CrossFit. There's nothing else better for you for that environment and i push that over and over and over again one of my friends just got a contract with uh i'm gonna mess it up but but some department in the air force where anyone who wants to become a paratrooper gets sent over to his crossfit gym before they before they start i think it's special warfare development is that what it is yeah it's just like a development like uh yeah that's what it is

and it's like they know they know and and that same i've said that same friend of mine has a contract with the with the entire county's uh huge fire department county's fire department to keep those dudes in shape too it's like they know like everyone knows don't don't lose that that's what they needed to embrace that's what you guys need to embrace and bring, bring Dave back, bring back, like, God, you want to bring back the whole asshole squad, get Andy to just hire all those dudes back and have them be your front guys. Yeah. And like, do you think that for a second that I know Greg would, I know Greg would back the police. I know Greg would stick up for first responders. Do you think Rosa would come out and say anything positive about police and no no too dangerous

politically too dangerous too dangerous it's like goes against everything that crossfit's about conforming to other people's shit well greg would have never run um to the government to help the gyms either. He believes in accountability, personal responsibility. He believes in what's doing what's right too. Not like, hey, if you compromise your integrity and go over here, we'll let you open up. You don't ever take an ultimatum or coercion. Yeah, so it's a weird thing. Have you ever considered the morning chalk up gave HQ a heads up about the article rather than the other way around that started the conversation HQ wanted to get ahead of?

to get ahead of i'm not sure exactly what you mean but this was they admit to us steven they admit to in that article knowing about this ahead of time no no no no it doesn't even i think that's irrelevant because um everyone's been talking about the water since day one it's always been a conversation but you can even go over to just go over to the Clydesdale podcast but I but but but also I know I know that that guy uh what's his name that LeFranco guy like he he walks around bragging bragging about how uh Andrew Weinstein the PR guy is um uh his best friend and and there's tons of examples there's tons of examples and people have given there's tons of examples of them working together in ways that are less than, less than cool. Like it's, I wish I had a larger vocabulary. Maybe, maybe I'll read a book today. What do you do when you, when you're doing this Murph? What are you listening

to audio books? Are you thinking about your job? What are you doing? I listen to your podcast a lot, man. Oh, so that's honestly like, so I've always kind of like, like listening to podcasts when I work out. And I do like a lot of like long rowing intervals and stuff. And I just need something to clear my head and just kind of turn it off. And that's, I started listening to your podcast with Josh and Matt a while ago and then it kind of led into this and it's, it's awesome what you're doing, man. Like I love listening to it every day, especially like, you know, I'm more partial.

Like I love the CrossFit stuff that's on there just because I'm a CrossFit nerd, but it's really good. And it's awesome when you want to just kind of turn your mind off and work out like the podcast is perfect for that. Could you go to Mal O'Brien's Instagram account, Caleb? I don't want you to Jim. Do you smoke weed? No. Do you smoke weed? Oh, I can't. I'm a police officer. But he looks like he does with that beard, right?

I can't wait till I grow a beard and people say that I look like I smoke weed. Will you click on that first post right there? Maybe scroll down into the comments a little bit. I made a comment on here this morning. Oh, wait, scroll back down. Who's that? Oh, that Olivia Kerstetter. That's the young girl that Jacob Heppner trains.

Okay, keep going. Oh, no. Did my comment get erased? Oh, darn it. It's probably just really deep in there. No, I have a checkmark. It should float to the top. I'm the man.

Shouldn't it float to the top? Don't all the blue checkmarks float to the top i'm the man shouldn't it float to the top don't all the blue check marks float to the top so you can be look at all these blue check marks that follow me anyway i proposed in there i said hey um maybe mal maybe we can start a podcast um josh mal and sebon it's just a little it would be just a little different than Josh, Matt, and Sevan. So maybe that podcast will come back, but it will have Mal instead of Matt. Yeah. She's super impressive what she's doing, man. It's pretty crazy.

Crazy. It's crazy. And now she's working with Matt and like, that's really cool. I'm, I'm a Matt fan boy. So I'll be pulling for her in the games. How many times that you've done murph has someone

jumped in with you um i 10 15 i don't know i was so i have a buddy who does that bother you are you kind of like oh thank you but really you're like fuck you get out of here i love it yesterday we love it okay yesterday we were training in a buddy's gym and he had um just a guy that was working out on the stairmaster behind where we were filming and it was like amazing um just he was just listening to me and i was just bullshitting with him as i was going i it's nice and i had a buddy who is in uh the navy who came home for like 12 days. And he's like my favorite guy to train with.

Cause he's just like a beast, like regionals level athlete. And for like every year around Christmas time, we get like 12 days to just try to crush each other for 12 days. And we're like super pumped for it just to see where we stacked up against each other. And like, it's a hundred percent for 12 days,

like lying on the floor dead afterwards um so we did murph together for like six of the days and then we both got covid which sucked oh wow he didn't he did murph six days in a row with you yeah he's a fucking animal man it's 300 air squats, right? Yeah. I mean, man, I mean, it's even sounds crazy to do 300 air squats every day for a year. I think, I don't know. I think maybe more people should. Yeah. I, you're probably right. More people should. I agree a hundred percent, but it's still just gnarly. It's just gnarly.

Yeah. When you're done with this, do you think you'll ever do Murph again? Yeah, of course. I'll do it every Memorial Day as long as I'm able to do it. Right, right. Is it part of you looking forward to it being done? Kind of and kind of not because I've kind of just tapped into this, like, this different thing while I'm doing this that I didn't know I was capable of from everything from, like, time management. That was huge because now it's like everything has to be so dialed in that, like, I can't – I don't have time to sit on the couch and bullshit on my phone for 15 minutes when I get home from work.

So even this podcast kind of fucks you up. You're like shit 90 minutes this is a lot to give i'm good i'm good i just i did some monostructure work on the rower before i jumped on here and then i got a buddy who i'm gonna train with after this and then i'll do more um but for the most part like i'm off today so if i'm like working like yeah dude everything's got to be completely dialed in. There is no time for bullshit with working two jobs and kids and trying to do full programming and Murph, which is like two hours a day. Like it's very doable. If every single person went and sat back and looked at their day and calculated

all the time that they wasted on things that didn't make them a better human, I think they would be shot. This dumb ass thing. Yeah. Yeah. I've been doing a multiple workouts a day now for a few months, but my workouts are so like weak. I mean, they're nothing. I mean, they're nothing. I'll do three workouts in a day and I still won't have accumulated Murph. Yeah. But comparisons defeat the joy brother like

your thing yeah i think it's better to work out multiple times a day like significantly better i think it's like if you listen to i think shane or had talked about it before like and you know i know matt had said it before like there's there comes a point in time in that 60 to 75 minute window where it's like you're probably not doing any more good at this point because mentally you can't and physically you can't bring the intensity that's supposed to be brought to each piece. If you're systematically programming and trying to follow something and bring the correct intensity and stimulus to each piece, you can't maintain that for over like 75 minutes. Yeah, that makes total sense. Are you taking supplements? Yeah.

What are you taking? Creatine, beta-alanine. What else do I take? I take pre-workout and post-workout. It's got like a bunch of BCAAs in it. But my big thing is like creatine, beta-alanine, and zinc. Caleb, can you pull up like the 10 best creatines? What creatine do you take?

So I have a company that sends them to me. GCE Performance is just a guy who reached out and kind of wanted to help. And he sent me pre and post workout. And the pre workout has five milligrams in it. And the post workout has five milligrams in it. Oh, can I see that instead, Caleb? What's it called? GCE? GCE?

GCE Performance. But I'm currently not able to take that with the no sugar. Oh, interesting. Yeah, so I got bulk supplements, just like the cheap thing off Amazon. Yes. Yeah, that's what I've been using. Is it GNC or GC? GCE Performance.

It's a Canadian company. Let's look at both of those. So that's what I did a few years ago. I went and I looked up the 10 best creatines, and then the best one is just like at the top of the list was just this generic one, and it's just a bag of fucking disgusting tasting. Oh, okay. Let's see.

I think the one Bridges uses is pretty solid. I think it's X Endurance or something. That's the stuff you were taking yeah yeah they're pre they're pre-workout and they're post-workout and that guy just found you and just sent it to you and he found me on tiktok and was like hey i want to help out any way that i can and sent me like hundreds of dollars worth of free workout. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, it was really cool, man. The whole like all of the community has been like pretty awesome during this. Like I didn't do this to try to get this kind of shit.

It just kind of happened. Okay, and then go to – do you remember the name? I can't remember the name of the creatine I bought, but it is like really generic because I put it into a glass jar what's it called i use bulk supplements bulk supplements that's the name of the website it's on amazon oh will you find that it's like the cheapest shit you can buy and you just put it in water and stir it yeah so water i put beta alanine in my first serving of creatine in there you don't have to mix it up. I just, that's how I like to do it. And then just, you know,

yes, that's the shit. I, that's the shit I took too. I have to, it's disgusting by the way I mix it in water. It tastes so bad. Yeah. It's,

it's terrible, but you know, it's, I just drink that. And then like, I'll bang out a kill cliff right before they're sold out. Yeah. Get them on Amazon.

I'm still right now. Hey. And then, um, and then I take their, that same company's ar sold out. Yeah. Get them on Amazon still right now. Hey, and then I take that same company's arginine. Yeah. Do you do that too? No, not right now. I'm not supplementing arginine by itself. I just have the beta alanine and the creatine right now. Yeah.

I don't think I've never taken beta alanine. Dude, it's the shit. Taking beta alanine. Dude, it's the shit. But the ex-endurance stuff that Bridges promotes, I've heard really good things about that. Just dry scoop it, Sevan. I don't dry scoop. I think I would love to know what dry scoop means in the urban dictionary.

I don't know why you couldn't just put it in water it's gotta be something uh i i i have a little glass cup and i stir it in there and i just try to drink it down as fast as i can and then i quickly fill it up and get another uh same oh oh shit well okay i'm gonna have, we should come up with another. It should be something. Oh, there it is. That's better. Oh, yes. Here we go. Dry scoop. Sex without any lubricant of any sort of assistance.

In and out. Yeah. It seems probably more painful than pleasant. That sounds bad. It's got 15 thumbs down and eight thumbs up. Dry scoop. The jury's still out. The Urban Dictionary.

How many kids do you have? Two. And how old are they? My son just turned one yesterday, and my daughter is three. Oh, man. That's awesome. It's so cool, man. Do you ever push the stroller on Murph?

Yeah, I've done a bunch of stroller Murph. That's what sucks. It's so cold here, man. I can't have the kids out there with me. But when I was just out there doing rowing intervals this morning while while my wife took my son to his one year old checkup, like Harper was out there like playing on the rings with me, like doing burpees. Like she loves it. It's so cool, man. Like when we do, when I did the stroller murfs, those are some of my favorite ones that I've done. And they were, they took the longest, but like, it was so cool. Like my kids

were digging it the whole time. They loved it. and they saw dad working hard and they they wanted to eventually jump in and then harper asked to start going to crossfit kids it's really cool wow and and are you cool like are i have like different modes when i'm in my garage working out with my kids so like they know that when i'm working out like that they shouldn't interrupt me so like if i'm if i'm in my garage working out with my kids. So like, they know that when I'm working out, like that they shouldn't interrupt me. So like if I'm, if I'm in there working out and they come in there, um, with like a transformer and they go, Hey, will you change this from a car to a robot? I'll be like, Hey dude, you better give me space for a snap. Yeah. But there's other times, there's other times like that where I just have to realize, Hey, I'm a dad. Yeah. And, um, so if I come in there and I'm, and I'm working out and my son

says, Hey, can I work out with you? And I'm in the middle of a hundred burpees, like I'll stop. And I'll, and I'll be, even though like everything in me, my whole life has been like, Hey, don't fuck with my stimulus. I'm working out. This is my time. I'll be like this. I'll be like, yeah, let's get some. And I'll quickly set the interval timer or something. I'm like, let's take turns doing 10 each. Yeah. Like, is it like that with you for Murph? Like sometimes it's like, let's take turns doing 10 each. Yeah. That's so cool, man. Is it like that with you for Murph? Like sometimes it's like, Hey, I can't be interrupted and I have to finish this. And other times it's like, okay. Like you were squatting with your daughter.

Nope. Every single time she wants to come out there, I'm like all for it, man. Awesome. I work, I work out enough on my own. And also I don't want her to ever have like a stigma of like what the garage should be other than let's get together and have some fun working out yeah yeah that's so awesome i have a pretty strict no toy rule in the garage yep like you can come in there anytime you want but like it's not a place for legos even for a

minute like i don't even want you walking through the garage with like you come in there party let's party my kids spend do spend a lot of time but it is a you have a whole play room yeah that's where toys are i don't want to ever come in here and anyone have to step on a lego or your remote control cars in here or yeah are you pretty strict about your garage um i don't let them drink in there no glass in there it's never kind of it's never come up like every time she comes into the garage it's like almost like she already knows like this is a place of hard work and punishment let's get some yeah it's uh it's so great now it is almost daily now that one of my kids will ask me hey can we work out that's nuts that's so yeah yeah it's nuts and just about every day too there's like oh i don't want to do this also there's a good balance i can't wait till there's a point in time where she's like able to actually like be competitive with it or is like wants to be on the same level as me.

And we're just like kind of going hard in there. Like that's my dream is to be able to be 55 years old and work out with my 16 year old daughter and give her a run for her money. Like, yeah, I mean, there's going to be a point where she's seven years old and she can crush you in toes to bar, right? I don't know. You'll see, my friend. You will see. Avi just got a one wheel. I don't know if you know what that is. I know what that is.

And I was riding it the other day and I crashed it and I jumped off of it and he started crying. And I thought he was crying because I crashed his one wheel and he came over and hugged me. He goes, please don't ride it anymore. I don't want you to hurt yourself. I thought he's crying because I fucked his one wheel up. I put a scratch on it. He doesn't want me to hurt myself. I remember not wanting my dad to hurt myself.

It's crazy that my seven-year-old, he knows I'm fragile compared to him. Yeah, there he is. That's cool. Yeah. I can't wait to have that kind of relationship when they get older. Like you have with your kids when it comes to like judo and, um, you know, skateboarding and stuff, like just watching the kids do their thing. Like, I just love watching her do pick up a kettlebell outside and walk with perfect form. And I can't imagine when there's like going to be some competition put into it. Like there's just such a sense of like pride that you take in your kids. It's just,

it's unexplainable until you have them. And I wouldn't even understand it until I had them either. And I cannot wait for that time to come where we're doing sports together and stuff. Do you work out with your wife? No. Nope. Why not? No. Nope. Why not?

I have not. Does she work out? She used to be like super big into running and like, I guess, body pump stuff. And she's really been into yoga and Pilates, but not into CrossFit. Does she think you're crazy? Yeah. But she embraces it, man. She loves, like, she knows, she knew from a very early point that, like, I guess I have some kind of maybe a mental disorder or something where it's like, I need that two hours a day to try to break myself to feel mentally happy. Like, you know, I dealt with like depression

and stuff throughout my life. And the way that I cope with it is I go out and I crush myself in a workout and I'm happy. When did, so what did you used to do before you found movement to mitigate that, your moods? I've always just, I did like bodybuilding before that with like some form of like circuit training which it's functional fitness you know right um to get you know to be

in shape for work but when i finally like got into crossfit and i felt that first time of like i crushed myself i just like laid on the floor and I was, everything was like silent for a minute. Everything was good. Like there was nothing going on. It was just, I didn't have any thoughts. It was great. And that's kind of like why I started Murph. I haven't really come out and like talk to a whole lot of people about it, but you know, I was dealing with a lot of shit in my life. Um, and I went to the gym on Memorial day and I, I tried my artists and Murph and I didn't think about anything for 45 minutes, except like the pain that I was going through in the workout. And of course, honoring Mike Murphy. And I was like,

man, this is, I've been chasing that high for 235 days. There's this, um, that was saying saying stop thinking and all your problems will go away yeah problems are problems are weird right there's something like egotistical about problems i don't mean that in a negative way but but it's one of the cool things about having kids you have an opportunity to to give yourself up. It doesn't matter if you're hungry or sleepy or anything. You'll do anything for them. But also because of that, some people are like, oh, it's such a burden.

It's such a sacrifice. Actually, it's such a gift because you don't have to. Anything's better than dealing with your own thoughts sometimes. Oh, 100%. And they don't care what you're going through or what or, you know, what shape you're in or what, what's your, your worst day to them. You're still just dad. And they just love you unconditionally, no matter what. So sometimes it's like, if I'm having like a really shitty day or I'm feeling down on myself, like my daughter loves me exactly the same every single way, every single and i need it you know i need that love uh i it's so funny because and i use this as an example a lot but when i got fired from crossfit i just remember like my kids like we were at the skate park when they called and fired me and i it's still just like hey i need an orange where the fuck's my water just like they just like

i'm like i'm in total fucking disarray and turmoil my whole life's been turned upside down they don't give a shit yeah like hey i have to take a piss like what are you doing over there worrying about your own shit who cares if you have a job or not yeah i need an orange yeah it's so great um well what so, going back to that, um, you've had that since you've been a kid. Like, so you're, you're not surprised. You're not like, oh, um, you don't look at your sometimes and be like, what have I got myself into? This feels like you.

Yeah. This thing. Yeah. I don't think there's anything else that could be more me, um, than doing this workout for 365 days or some form of it. It just happened to like, I love the concept and everything behind Murph and the memorial of Mike Murphy.

It's like, it kind of just fit on par with my beliefs and everything. Um, but it's kind of always just been me like that kind of thing. Like I've never been really great at anything. Uh, never been the best athlete of everything. Like I was pretty good,

but I wasn't great. But I always like worked a little bit harder than most people. And I kind of embraced that role. And I liked it. I liked it about myself that like I could go to these places that a lot of people didn't want to go. What is a depression? What, what, like, how would you describe that? What is it? For me, I would describe it as like nothingness. Like there's no joy in things. There's no, it's just kind of, you stare at the wall and you can stare at the wall for five hours and nothing changes. There's no, there's no emotions one way or the other. For me, that's, that's kind of what I was going through. Is it tied to motivation or? Um, I think there, there was a form of that maybe, but. is it tied to motivation or, um,

I think there, there was a form of that maybe, but do you know what caused it? I think I have a pretty good idea. You know, I think there was, I was dealing with like a lot of, a lot of PTSD stuff.

And, um, were you in, you were in the military now? Oh, no, no, no. Just from work stuff at work.

Wow. And is that common, you think, with police officers? Oh, yeah. Very, very common. I mean, if you look at the suicide rate amongst cops, it's it's crazy high. Wow. As you're as you're as you're willing to talk about it more, I'd love to talk about it with you. Yeah, man.

I'd love to have you on again and talk about it. Yeah, definitely. It's something that's not really brought up a lot. And you have cops killing themselves at a really high rate right now because of depression. Your firefighters, too, they're going through the same thing. It's the same in the military. Yep. And you see the worst in humanity every single day and you see horrible things every single day and violence every single day. And it takes its toll on you

whether you want to admit it or not. It takes its toll on you. The way you see the world, the way you see yourself, the way you look at others, it's bad, man. What's interesting about that is then on the flip side um on your instagram which some people you know you poo poo social media but for you it's

like where all your support and like love comes from from from a community dude it's crazy i when i first started this i like it was for me and i put it on tiktok because none of my friends had tiktok and i didn't want any of my friends to see that I was posting on social media or anything. And then overnight it just kind of blew up. And I was receiving all these messages from vets, from firefighters, from cops, from guys who were alcoholics, from people who had not done fitness in 10 years and were extremely overweight. And like, this made me get off my ass and go work out. This got me through my shift today. This helped me deal with my depression. All these crazy good things. And I was like, holy shit, man. I'm just a regular ass dude working out in this garage, trying to do something hard to get me through my days.

And it's inspiring people. And I'm nothing special, man. I'm a regular dude, a regular ass dude who just goes and does a workout for 45 minutes. And it's got the impact that it does on a community that I associate with in law enforcement, firefighters, and military going through kind of the same thing I was going through. And to me, it was like kind of bigger than myself around day 40 or 45. I kind of realized like, this is, this is bigger than, you know, Everything's contagious. People don't realize that everything is contagious. Everything you do,

like there's no one who can, I remember, I don't know if it's Charles Barkley or Tupac. I can't remember when I was a kid, one of them was like, I'm not a role model. I'm not a role. You're actually,

that's not your choice. Yeah. That's actually not your, every, every single person when you're sitting there ordering a Frappuccino, you're telling with that has 60 grams of sugar or whatever it is. You're telling everyone around you that it's OK to live that life. You're telling when you put on a mask, you're telling everyone around you that there's something to be afraid of or whatever story people have around it and like and you're lying to yourself if you think it's not that way and you and we're all susceptible to it from the the highest yogi who claims to have complete stillness

we're all susceptible to it 100 100 agree with you and i always tell people like dude i'm not special like i'm not rich froning i'm not matt fra. I'm a regular guy who just flip the switch at some point in their mind. Every single person has this inside of them to some degree. You might not be physically there yet, but you can go out and do something hard every single day for an hour where you're like, I found my quit today and I'm going to push a little bit past that. Every single person has it. You just, you have to find it in yourself, in every single person has you just you have to find it in your in yourself in every single part i truly believe every single person has that in do you have any um uh weird stories of like or just like fucked up stories of like you started murph you were 15 minutes into it

and your wife comes out to the garage and be like oh my god we're supposed to go to that you had a dentist appointment so you have to stop and then go to dentist have do you have any of those or do you have any like like a murph no did you, have you ever done it twice in a day during these, these, um, no, no, I always made it a point to like, it's planned. That was another thing is like time management for me. It's like, I made a commitment to do this. I'm planning it out. My day is planned around. It has to be done at this time. There's no sitting around bullshitting, feeling sorry about yourself. You have to do it at this time because life is waiting for you for the next eight hours. It's never been like, Oh shit, it's 11 o'clock at night and I only have 60 minutes

left to get it in. Sorry. No, no. And I think it's one, it's therapeutic for me too. It's like, it's, I've gotten into this habit now of like embracing this thing and being like, this is what I'm doing today and it needs to get done at this time. So it's the hardest one was like the COVID one where it was like five or 6 PM and I was sitting on the couch with 103 temperature. And I was like, dude, Murph's got to get done. Like, I'm not giving up these 210 days right now for this shit. So get off your ass stop feeling

fucking sorry for yourself and go out there and get murph done did your wife try to talk you out of it no she knows i'm a crazy person yeah so she kind of she's she knows what's going on um what what shoes are you wearing have you been wearing the same pair of shoes for this entire thing? Most of the time. Yeah. Nike Metcons. Um, if my shins are like really blown, I mean a mile run for me, dude, like he'll be like, the Metcons are not good for running. Like it's a mile, like 1600 meters.

It's not that bad. And I, I would give up the squatting and running shoes for running the pain of running and like weightlifting shoes um and i've worn like nike running shoes every once in a while um when like my shins will start to blow up or i'll have like knee issues if it's bad then i'll throw the running shoes on have you gone on vacation anywhere yeah we've gone on three different vacations and and where have you gone? North Carolina to the Outer Banks twice and Ocean City twice, which is just here in Maryland.

It's just the beach. And so how far are these from your house? 10 hours and three hours. So then you really have to figure it out, right? Especially on those travel days. Yeah. I had to find a place to do pull-ups. And you can see some of the videos that I have on there.

I would just find a beam that was like hanging from a parking garage and do pull-ups there and do pushups in the gravel. Like you can, you can get it done. It's a great workout to do. Even if you don't have a vest on, it's a great workout to do when you're on vacation. It's like 45 minutes, you know, 50 minutes, just run it slick and, and do it. Um, you, you do you you always do it with a vest all these times yeah and which vest do you just have one vest it must be nasty oh no

so i wash it you can wash it um but i've been like people have sent me vests um a bunch of different kind of vests and i just found one that like, I think looks the coolest and works the best, but, um, yeah, for right now, I've just been using the, um, the Wolf Tactical one I have, and it's not anything special. It's pretty affordable. I wonder what you're going to do after this. So we've been talking about that and I kind of have a plan. I don't really know if it's going to happen or not or the logistics behind it. But I've been looking for a way to give back to the veteran and police officer community. And what I'd like to do is there you go. Yeah, that was me doing it at the beach. I'd like to do a thing where we can we can somehow get a donation set up for some sort of foundation where we say, hey,

somehow get a donation set up for some sort of foundation where we say, Hey, the person who donates the much the most this day, you get to pick which hero workout I do for 300. Like I'll do a different hero workout every day for 365 days. I don't care how hard it is. If you donate $10 and you say this workout and this guy donates $8, you still get to choose a workout that day.

Gotcha. That's cool. Bringing awareness to the heroes that should be honored and also giving back to a community who deserves everything. Is the goal to get back out on the street? I'm not sure, man. I'm not sure. Kind of can't really go into it. Um, right. But like mentally, I don't know. Um, if, if that's going to be a thing right how long have you been a police officer 10 years you think you'll make it another 10

tough to say right now I'm exploring other avenues right well I appreciate you coming on here I appreciate you letting me pick around I hope I was respectful people will tell me in the comments hey asshole I didn't want to talk about it why'd you keep pushing you coming on here i appreciate you letting me pick around i hope i was respectful if not people will tell me in the comments hey asshole i didn't want to talk about it why'd you keep pushing

no dude i will i would be willing to come on and dive deeper into all that stuff um if you want to for sure awesome and there's definitely like a there's definitely something that needs to be said for like our firefighters our police officers in and our military that there needs to be more readily available fitness and it needs to become a part of what we do every single day. And it might even have to be part of your show. It's so important. And there's no standard held amongst most departments for people to be physically fit. amongst most departments for people to be physically fit. And for me, there's no greater injustice than putting people out there

who are supposed to protect the community, protect their brothers, and they're not fit. And you're not holding them to a standard. And it makes me sick. And I think it's the most selfish thing you can do. Word. I agree. I couldn't fucking agree. And to completely take all of the responsibility and blame off of our first responders, they have to be – before we judge them, they have to be given the resources and the time to do it.

And then after that, let's fucking tear into them. But until then, like, like. Jiu Jitsu, dude, BJJ, like. Yes. If you, if you put that into the hands of police officers and made them some sort of test that they have to have every single month that complies with that, I can 100% guarantee you that police shootings would, would skyrocket down 100%. skyrocket down 100% because you look at 90% of these people that come into the academy that don't have that background, where are they going to get it? They got to find time in between a 12 hour shift to work out, go find a BJJ gym, find out how to pay for it. You spend all this money on shit that doesn't matter for police work, but you don't teach them how to deal with situations without using their weapons. Like they don't know how to fight, man. A lot of these shootings happen because people are scared to death. They're humans like me and you, and they don't know how to handle the situation because they've never been given

the correct tools to handle that situation. You make them fit, you teach them how to do judo, and you put them on the street. And I guarantee you have a fine-tuned machine who's not going to make the same mistakes you're seeing over and over and over again the gentlest guys i know are the guys who are the baddest dudes they're the most humble dudes because they don't have anything to prove man they've been there been humiliated they've learned that that lesson on the mat like it's just it's a whole different culture thing man like you walk into a room and that could be the baddest vga dude in the world and he's not the one standing up trying to pick a fist fight because he's been in a thousand fights yeah it's uh i have this friend who's a i have two friends who are really really fucking gnarly

fighters and they're both brown belts and brazilian jiu-jitsu and they both do some bouncing at bars and they go do you get in a lot of fights they're like no they're like i fight all day at the fucking at the dojo like it's like i don like, I don't, like, I don't want, I'm not interested. Like, I'm not interested in fighting anyone here. I'm just, just keep the peace. And I'm like, wow. And they're both insane strikers too. To put it back into perspective for you, Sivan, like,

my partner on the street was a fucking amazing wrestler. And I learned from him how to wrestle. And because I didn't wrestle as a kid, I played baseball and football. So we have this unit of 12 guys where I just told you how many guns we took off of people. We're talking about confrontation. When you go up and you grab somebody

and you feel a pistol in their waistband, it does something different to you. Right. And in that situation, we had two shootings, two shootings over eight years of all those guns and all those interactions. And it's every single one of those dudes on that squad was physically fit and knew how to take care of themselves in a fight. The last thing they needed to do was grab their gun. But we did that on our own. There was never time given for that. There was never instruction given

for that. The part you do in the academy is maybe 30 minutes of nine months, man. Like it's, it's an injustice to every single police officer and every single citizen by not teaching them how to grapple and teaching them how to be fit. And obese first responders insane. It's, it's, it's, it's like you wouldn't let the fire truck have a flat tire. It's crazy. And I look at it as when I took my fitness serious, I looked at the guy to my right and the guy to my left. And I said, I'm not going to be the reason you don't go home to your kids because I didn't take the hour a day to go get fit.

It takes an hour, man. It doesn't even take that. You'll get on a salt bike for 30 minutes, road for 30 minutes. Get yourself in shape. Because if you don't do it for yourself, do it for the guy next to you as a family to get on so um can i show you something uh switch subjects real quick this will only take two minutes can you pull up that post i just uh sent you caleb totally off subject so these guys are on a on a team together annie thor's daughter con porter lauren fisher and that guy was on the demo team what's his name taylor to tolo

yeah someone just texted me the other day and said hey do you know lauren fisher hates your guts but her husband loves you her husband's r Rathsmith, right? Rathsmith. I really like him. He's funny as shit. I really, I don't know Lauren at all, but I, but I really like her,

uh, uh, her brother. Dude, that's a solid team. Hey, you know what I heard yesterday? I heard, um,

Fikowski's going to, uh, mayhem. Really? I don't know if he's moving there, but I heard he's a mayhem athlete now. Dude, I would love to see some, like some super teams come up and compete.

Because really, we got mayhem right now. I would love to see some crazy super teams go at each other. Man, that team at Wadapalooza, that Noah. The boys? Yeah, Chandler and Travis Mann. Chandler's just the man. How do you not pull for that guy? Yeah, I like all those dudes. Chandler Smith's the man. How do you not pull for that guy? Yeah, I like all those dudes.

Yeah. They're all gentlemen. Same. All right, brother. Thank you very much for your time. Hour and a half. Get some. We'll be watching, and we'll see you in hopefully 130 days and pick your brain on what's next.

Yeah, man. Anytime. Yeah. Thanks for all your support. You've been supporting the podcast. I really appreciate it. I appreciate you guys keep me going when I'm doing these merch and like the community that you've created on here. It's pretty cool. Awesome. Thanks, man. Yeah. Caleb peace and love.