The Sevan Podcast - #743 - Jorge Fernandez | Wodapalooza 2023 Team Champs?

Episode Date: January 10, 2023

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bam we're live hello all right what's up dude how's it going i tried something new this morning and it didn't work what was that but it's okay as long as i tried i tried to i went live before i put our faces on there and then i thought i could run my mouse back over and get us on the screen quickly but i did but i was unable to i was unable to people saw black for a second what's working now so hey are you on a computer i'm on a ipad oh okay um do you think you could turn it um the other way this way yeah how's that better yeah i can do it the only thing is is i'll have to look at the the camera not you guys

if you prefer yeah oh yeah that does look way better all right let's do that that's good are you already at the gym yeah i'm here i just got here about 30 months ago can you see the comments let me see probably not i think yeah no okay it's okay they don't say anything important they're only they're they're only 51 of the show the other 49 are me and caleb well just let me know what they say and i'll help out okay uh this guy says good morning oh actually i could see or is that was that you that clicked it i could see it now oh yeah yeah i put it up on the screen oh okay good morning everybody uh you guys know i'm joking you guys are definitely a very valuable part of the show

oh i guess i said you were 51 that's important that's important uh i met you at the ranch yes it was love at first sight man you're a cool dude you and uh you were there with devin kim yes was anyone else with you guys no just the two of you right yeah and ally weiss is that different than britney weiss yeah that's her younger sister oh okay britney's the girl who's on your team yeah yeah yeah oh okay okay okay that's right i remember there being a third girl that was that was cool running into you guys there it's always exciting for me to go to the ranch and then um uh to see dave and then to see that event the gun show that was going on there the gun event yeah then uh to meet you and then it was kind of like i don't know

devin but i know devin you know like we've probably been to 10 events together and she was just a little girl. Well, she was never little. Yeah. She was always taller than me, but it was kind of crazy. And I, when I saw her there and she was so warm to me, I, I wasn't able to piece together who she was until like, I think I got home. Holy shit. That's the, that's the little girl who would come to events that her mom and dad would work at. I was like, holy crap.

Yeah. Congratulations on an amazing team and congratulations for basically being in love with your team. I watched two or three of your interviews yesterday and I can totally tell that you're just ecstatic to be with that posse. Yes, yeah, I definitely am. It's a good squad. And what's the other guy's name chamas chamas josh ashama ashama what do you guys call him do you call him oshama yeah yeah oh we just call him josh but oh you do okay yeah alshama al say his last name for me again i hope he doesn't get mad at me i think it's alshama. Alshama. Say his last name for me again. I hope he doesn't get mad at me. I think it's

Alshama. Alshama. I'm about to get a text right now. Probably he's looking at the, or he's listening to this. So I didn't have any, it's amazing what a little video will do. I didn't have any like interest in him at all. It's just like, Oh, just some random team, dude, whatever. And then I saw him in your vlog and I'm like, wow, a cool dude yeah yeah he's he's pretty cool um he's english yes yes yes from england um it's actually a really cool story when i heard when i started here um i was supposed to be on a team with him here here being uh invictus in san diego yeah yeah um and i was supposed to be on a team with him for the west coast semi-final before the pandemic okay um and i just saw him through instagram and stuff and um yeah i was supposed to be on a team with him and then it

kind of all fell through and then full circle we're on team and we make the games and stuff together so there's obviously way more to the story but yeah i just saw him through instagram i was supposed to be on his team and then we never ended up being on the team when you started at invictus was that dude there was uh alshama there no but he was he said he used to follow uh the invictus programming um tino used to program for him and stuff and then he kind of just stayed in la and then um yeah that's all we just kind of met through instagram when did he do you know his story when did he come from the uk um he'd be a little bit easier better to ask but he came i want to say four or five years ago did he come because of crossfit

actor he wanted to be an actor he wanted to be an actor did he no no no he just came and i guess just to start a new life here in america and stuff and then found crossfit and yeah wow crazy story i i i wanted brian to be on here this morning because we were talking um a couple days ago and uh we had uh page powers on oh cool nice and she basically went from finding crossfit to one year later being uh on a team no no uh no sorry a teen athlete she she took i don't know her first she was did crossfit for a year and then was on the podium or no maybe fourth place as a teen at the crossfit games and brian said something like yeah that's pretty fast but obviously it's the teens

and uh i don't think that ascent could happen an individual but your ascent in crossfit is pretty darn crazy yeah i found it in 2019 2019 yeah yeah i've already been to the games twice it was funny i was watching videos i was i went to tino's house the other day just to watch the jaguars play i was watching videos of the first open i did the 2019 one it's pretty pretty bad like i 2019. So, so 2019 you find CrossFit 2021. You, uh, take 17th on the Invictus team at the CrossFit games. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And then last year you make it on the podium. Yeah, dude, it's nuts.

Yeah. It's, I mean, it's, it's been a lot of hard work, but yeah, it's the progression has been really really fast and where were you born uh del rio texas so small border town um west of san antonio two and a half hours and you're mexican yes my mother is from mexico yeah and you do you speak spanish i do yeah first language yeah actually first language yeah i learned that through my mother and i'll uh like anytime i call her she'll speak to me in spanish and stuff so i always it's always fresh in my mind god that's cool and uh did you learn english simultaneously or you learned english afterwards uh afterwards, but it was when I was really young.

So I knew both languages since I was a kid. So I was, yeah, I've always known both. And yep, that's Del Rio right there. And you said your mom was born in Mexico. So on her side, you're first generation? Yes, exactly. And so that's the Ciudad Acuña. That's where my mom's from, right across the border.

So when I go back home, like I'll spend time on both sides, have some family members on there in Acuña, Mexico. And your dad was a border patrol agent. No, no. My dad just worked. That's a joke. That's a joke. And he picked my mom up and they came. Yes.

Yes. No, he worked like manufacturing companies and stuff. So. And what's his ethnicity? Was that he's Hispanic. But but but not Mexican. No, not Mexican. Another native people who is raped by the Europeans who happened to meet your mom? Well, actually, my father is Mexican. Part of my grandparents, 50 Spanish, 50% Spanish, Mexican. So I'm a mixture of kind of everything. And how did your mom get here? She just met my father, I guess, in a manufacturing company. And then they kind of talked and

then he kind of brought her over and ended up doing the whole uh deal with like the visa and all that and she ended up staying i actually had a great story yeah i actually lived in mexico um at my grandparents house for a while when i was a kid so it was it was really cool like just experiencing both sides. And then also still having both sides. So anytime I go back home, like, I feel like I live two lives, one in Mexico, one here in America. And it's just, like, back and forth. So, yeah. You like going back to Mexico? It's, like, a home spot for you?

it's a it's a like a home spot for you i love it just because i feel like it kind of brings me back down to reality and just like seeing like how it's a poor community there in ciudad de cuña and they're just like the happiest people so it just kind of brings me back down and kind of helps me enjoy family like just the food and all that stuff so i really really do enjoy it do you have dual citizenship i don't i actually wanted to get it through my mom just to try to buy some land out there and stuff um so that's in the works but yeah for sure uh it's always always good to get an extra passport just yeah yeah yeah wow and uh are you so you when you said you lived in mexico for with your grandparents for a while how old were you then uh i want to say anywhere from like two to five in that range and did your parents live there too yeah they they bounced around here and

there um obviously at the beginning my was struggled with money and stuff. They were young. And so they would stay at my grandparents' house or I would stay, we'd go back and forth. So yeah. Yeah. Extended family stuff. It wasn't quite like that with my family, but, but, um, or at least for me, but that's the way my dad came, immigrated here and then sent for all his brothers and sisters.

And so when they moved here, they all moved into a house together, right? That's how you do it. So they're all piled into one house and it was my favorite house to visit. And I would go there every day. All my aunts and uncles were there and I'd go there and people would just be loving on me and feeding me. And that's exactly what happens when I go back home. Yeah. Yeah. It's awesome.

And are your parents still living there in uh in that border town yeah yeah they're still there and you go back and visit often not often anymore but uh i actually went right after the rogue invitational and i spent almost two weeks there just kind of hung out and relaxed are they is your are your mom and dad tripping on your on your body and and what you're doing with CrossFit and all that? Honestly, it's funny because I've always been this way. And my mom, every time I talk to her, like, you need to stop. You need to slow down.

You're going to get sick. Oh, like you're pushing your body too hard. Yeah, but I've always done it since I was a kid so they kind of understand so um so by the time you're five or six you're permanently in the united states you're not doing the back and forth stuff here and there i mean like it's hard to say i'm not going back and forth because i'd go i mean we'd spend the whole week in there come back like we're huge on family. So it was always, I'd see my grandparents three or four times a week. I'd have to go there. They'd come back. So honestly, my entire life,

and up until I came honestly to San Diego, I stopped going back and forth. Did you do all of your, did you do all of your schooling in the United States, elementary, junior high and high school? Yes. Yeah, I sure did. And was your school full of Mexicans? Yeah. Oh yeah. My hometown is like 99.9% Mexicans. Yeah. And when you go to school, are they teaching the curriculum in Spanish or in

English? Um, English. Um, but I mean, we have teachers that would speak Spanish and stuff and it was, it was, it was really cool. I really enjoyed it. And there'd be kids in your class who didn't speak a lick of English, right? Like a dude who just came yesterday and you're like, dude, what's up? And he's like, hey. Yes, exactly. Yeah, there's my family. Oh, what a great family. That's your mom in the middle?

Yeah, that's my mother. Wow. She's a looker. Holy cow, you have a good looking family. Thank you. And that's your brother who's in the videos? videos yeah this is my cousin through my mom's side yeah lalo he's uh actually he just stopped but he was a coach here at invictus um there's a funny story about him as well um so yeah yeah let me hear the funny story about him i saw him in your video he seemed it seemed like

good you guys seem like brothers in there yeah yeah yeah we got a really really good relationship um so he actually so we grew up together and stuff and he actually left uh to miami uh to do like surf de soleil he was a gymnast um and so he stayed out there and we hadn't talked in like seven eight years um and uh, one day we reached out, reached out to each other on Instagram. We're like, Hey, let's catch up and stuff. And then eventually we came to this thing to where we're like, Hey, let's start a gym here in San Diego. So he moved over. Um, and then we just started talking about starting a gym and then we both kind of hopped into Invictus at the same time. And we fell in love with CrossFit and that just kind of got put on the back burner. And we just ended up doing CrossFit.

He became a CrossFit coach. He competes as well on our other Invictus team. And so, yeah, we've just kind of been in this space together and just kind of have been growing at the same time. Who is that other girl in the in the picture um right before you guys yeah that girl by the fireplace uh so this is ali ali weiss oh okay oh and she was the one um okay now i recognize her she was at the ranch yeah so she was at the ranch and so yeah so she used to do crossfit actually she was a teen and she won she won the crossfit games wow yeah shows how good i pay attention

and she and she but she's not on your team now her older sister is her older sister is yes and is ali still doing crossfit yes she is she'll be uh competing on the second on the other team on our second and biggest team. Hey, what's that like? Are the sisters pretty competitive? Is that pretty crazy? Oh, my. Yeah, they're very competitive.

Very, very competitive. With each other. And Allie's like really, really quiet and conservative, but she turns it on when she goes against Britt. It's pretty funny. How old's Brittany? 24. Okay. So she's still young. The old is Brittany? 24. Okay, so she's still young.

The older sister is still young. Actually, I lied. She's 27 and Allie is 24. And how old is Alshama? Josh is 30 now. I think he just turned 30, yeah. And Devin's 12.. And Devin's 12. Yeah. Devin's 12. No, she's, she's 19.

Or no, she's 20. She's 20 now. She just turned 20. And you and Devin have a individual aspirations. That's, that's where you guys are headed. Yes, yes, yes. Definitely. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. You haven't had any alcohol in two years um actually i did have some in vegas um just to that was the first time i was like look i'm gonna relax i'm gonna let everything just kind of eat what i want just kind of reset just because i've

been going so so hard on myself for the last two and a half years um so in vegas i did i said you know what this is the time to reset and just kind of uh relax take it easy so i did in vegas how long has it been since you've had alcohol like six months that's good that's six months well his isn't probably isn't by choice caleb's did caleb's deployed overseas jorge so oh wow cool yeah so he's just in a room over yeah okay so sorry interrupt the story so you were in vegas you were in vegas for that it was like after a competition or yeah so they put on that competition uh at underdogs and i just kind of went to spectate and stuff and that's when i came on um and so yeah everyone kind of went out that night and i said yeah you know what like i'll come out and just kind of it was the staying out late part was the

tough part for me i usually get in bed about eight so that was that was pretty hard on me but it was a good reset and you've been abstaining from alcohol not because you're an alcoholic, but because you're trying to put all of your eggs in one basket. You're trying to optimize what your body can do. Exactly, yeah. Okay, brace yourself, people. This one's going to fucking rock the house. And no caffeine either.

No caffeine. Fucking brilliant. You don't know how much I envy that. yourself people this one's gonna fucking rock the house and no caffeine either no caffeine fucking brilliant you don't know how much i envy that that is brilliant i i used i mean that's no i can't say i still kind of crave it but i i was a big i loved coffee coffee was my i mean it's like a routine you wake up you want to drink it but i was having two coffees with four shots of espresso in each one a day a day yeah before noon before noon and people people always asking like what what's the difference like why do you why'd you stop it it's not that bad for you and stuff and every time i talk about it i say so it took me a while but once i kind of figured out what it does to my body every time i i i'm like thinking like this i don't have those up down anxiety stress depression so like any

anything that pops up it could be rent or something that's due and i'm i just kind of like figure out in my head i'm like it's it's gonna get figured out it isn't and that was ever since i stopped drinking coffee i didn't have those ups and downs so it's been really good for me mentally i i want to say something as is extreme as it would be like that for everyone i don't think people realize the impact it has on them yeah i mean i know the impact it had on me after after like six seven months i kind of started to notice hey like i'm not having those anxiety or the stressed out or the ups the downs the yeah it was just kind of weird uh david wide uh alcohol is mas malo than sugar

see that like i know my audience i know know my guests. Mas Malo. That's incredible. And what about you have that guy there who works out at your gym, the big, beautiful guy, the black guy. He's a doctor. You know what I'm talking about? He's a giant. He's the fittest doc. He's been on this show.

I can't remember his name. Doesn't that guy work out at Invictus, Caleb? He does the crazy shit. He's got like, you know, probably like a 500-pound back squat and shit. He looks like a statue. You don't know who I'm talking about, Jorge? That means he doesn't work out there and I have the wrong gym. He's a San Diego native. I don't know.

He says he only drinks coffee right before a workout and he thinks it helps his oh this uh this guy not not that guy uh no that's not i don't think that's here this guy yeah no i haven't seen him here oh that dude doesn't work out i thought for sure that guy worked out at invictus i mean he maybe like he could been times that i'm not here but i've i haven't seen him around here i think you'd know he's pretty high profile he's a great guy i think he's in san diego by the way and if you need a doctor in san diego he's a full-blown nutball crossfitter he's the doctor yeah yeah oh yeah he's such a stud does it say where he's living dr nick yeah i've never heard of him and anyway he said he drinks a coffee only before he works out and i want to say that he thinks it gives him a one per he uses it as a PED. Got it.

Just like a pre-workout. It just kind of jolts him. He thinks it gives him a 1% increase in performance. It could. I don't know. Was it hard? Did you go through that? Did you start telling yourself stories like that when you quit coffee?

Like, oh, shit, my performance is going to suffer? No, because when I did it because – so it was like I had little things I would say like, all right, so these athletes are doing this, this, and this. What's the next step that I can take to get me closer to them? And I'd be like, all right, well, you're drinking a ton of coffee. Let's try to cut that out. And so anytime I would cut something out, it would – mentally it was like, okay, this is going to get me closer to them. And it'd be like, all right, well, you're drinking a ton of coffee. Let's try to cut that out. And so anytime I would cut something out, it would mentally was like, okay, this is going to get me better. So it wasn't like, Oh, it's going to affect my performance.

God, you're wise. I think that that's one of the turning points in my life when I realized that to be better is to remove things from your life, not to add things from your life. And I think so many people have that shit backwards because that's not how our minds are technically trained to work, right? We need more food in the refrigerator. We need more friends. We need more cars. We need more. But really, if you want to be a better person, it's the opposite. You got to start ditching shit.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's very true. I didn't even think about it like that, but that's kind of my, my thought process the last couple of years is what can I cut out? Cause obviously I already added the nutrition. I've added the recovery. I've added this. And it was coffee, alcohol, processed sugars. Um, I, what else did I cut out? There was hanging out with friends to add more recovery, quitting my job. So it is kind of taken away. It's even as simple as this. So let's say you have a car and a motorcycle, right? And so then now you have to, you spend an extra, extra time making sure that motorcycle is registered and you make an extra time that it has insurance. And then when your motorcycle breaks down, you're spending extra time taking it to the shop. And all of these dollars but and it's just a fucking club your life becomes a clusterfuck of taking care of shit objects instead of being at invictus and i'm doing the sam dancer warm-up there you go you should write a book and sell it stealing for you things out what i learned from uh jorge fernandez you like your name i love my name yeah it's pretty cool my middle name is alejandro so money hey um can you pull up my um instagram account uh caleb and see what i posted yesterday i had never seen that samcer warm-up from your vlog. And I just got so excited because I spend so much time in my garage. That was so awesome seeing that. And so when I saw you doing the Sam Dancer warm-up, I'm like, how can I?

I brought my boys and I'm like, okay, we're going to. I did it with the 40-pound D-ball in the rotation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm like, we're just going to steal this from Jorge. This is so cool so they were watching they were they were watching uh star wars or something last night and i'm like hey stop the movie they're like why i'm like i need to practice i need to see something on you guys that is great that's it though right is do you approve of that i do that's perfect yeah

i mean i even like it on theune things because it's like more stability. Right. But yeah, just marching away and then strengthening the upper half of the back, holding the people. That's awesome. What about holding it down low like this? One of the kids tried to hold it low. I'm like, nah, nah. Nah, they got to hold it in that front rack position or bare hug. Okay, good. Yeah, that's good there it in that front rack position or bear hug. Okay, good. Yeah, that's good there.

Do you use the sand dune stepper? I don't. No, I've actually seen it. I'm really interested in it. I want to kind of see if I could do like some handstand pushups and stuff on it just because it's like the instability. But actually, the first time I ever saw it was I think Josh Bridges had it in one of his YouTube videos or something. But yeah, I've never given him a try. Caleb, will you see if you can find someone doing a handstand pushup on a sand dune stepper?

That would be nuts. That thing is so unstable. Yeah. I guess you could do one hand first and then the other hand and then try both hands. Yeah, like a plate on one side and then sanded on the other. I think it could strengthen the wrists and stuff, which would be good. Have you ever seen anyone do that? No.

That's crazy. Yeah. So you're going to elementary school, border town and junior high and high school. And growing up is good, really familial. and junior high and high school. And, um, growing up as good, really familial. You have a lot of support. You're obviously, when you have a lot of family, your identity gets grounded in your family. Yes. You're a confident, uh, little kid, you know, your parents love you. And, um, any, any sports in those towns, any like school, like, like what are you doing? What are you doing after school and during school? Yeah.

So like I said, I never stopped since I was a kid. So I played soccer, baseball, basketball, track. I did it all. But my main sports were baseball and football. I played both all through high school. And i decided to go uh the baseball route into college why not wouldn't soccer be like more of a better cultural fit that's one thing that i think i've well i don't regret it because i am where i am and i really love what i'm doing now but i think i could have been pretty good if i was stuck with soccer. And where do you think you built? So you built a base active kid.

Yeah. And where do you, of those sports, could you pick one or any combination of them that you think like was soccer builder? Like, you know, Miko Saylor was a soccer player. So he got his engine. Katie Motter was a basketball player. So she did the four minutes, you know, that you're on the court full throttle. Any one of those in particular? Oh, there you go.

See? Oh. Good find, Caleb. Wow. Close, I guess. I still haven't looked at the sand dune stepper. Okay, there's the sand dune stepper. That's funny.

Thank you. Thank you, Jorge. okay there's the sandwich that's funny thank you thank you jorge um anyone in particular that you think was no no they all pretty much helped me i mean soccer hand their feet coordination agility uh power endurance football hand-eye coordination helping honestly football helped me to understand how to be a leader more um i don't know it all kind of ties in everything i've just known that i've always like worked really hard in training and and like running and stuff for my sport so whatever it was it helped me in what I'm doing now what do you mean football helped you with being a leader so I was the quarterback in high school um honestly starting at from seventh grade to senior year, I was like the starting quarterback and I would just be like the mediator between my coach and my team.

Um, and then just calling plays and just, I don't know. I just, it brought my leadership to a whole new level. Did you know that that was happening or, or only in hindsight when you look back? or only in hindsight when you look back? I always knew I had to lead by example and everyone would follow. But now that I look back, I understand how much of it I did and how I led quite a bit of people in high school. Yeah, crazy. I've had this kid, Tyson Bajan, who's a college football player,

on the show a couple of times now, and he's a quarterback. And I'm starting to understand like the huge importance of leadership from a quarterback at the highest levels. Like that's like, I mean, you can't, can you teach that to a kid? Does someone sit you down and say, Jorge, you have to be the leader or you figure it out? I, so I'll give you an example of now that i look back and i understand that i was meant to lead and so a freshman year of high school they brought me up to varsity to become a cornerback and so i was practicing defense and stuff and the star quarterback at the time

during practice injured his knee and so my freshman football coach told the head football coach for the varsity team hey georgie can throw like let him go in there and try crazy and so i mean i was a freshman kid like huge dudes and stuff i'm like i go in and stuff and and you were little right you You were a slow developer, right? As a kid. Slow. Yeah. I was like a buck 40, really skinny, short, little Mexican kid.

And so I go into the huddle and stuff and I kind of have the nerves and we go call the play. And my center, who's this 6'6", 240 pound guy, I'm like having to like really squat down and get under him um he kind of fumbled the ball and so i grabbed his face mask and i said get your shit together like and threw him and that's like now that i look back at it like who's this little four five foot nothing kid like telling me six six like i knew it was in like now i know it was in me, but I didn't know at the time, like, what am I doing? Like this guy will kill me. Almost like you were having an out of body experience. You were like, holy shit, what am I doing here?

Yeah. And like from that moment on, I was the star quarterback through the whole, um, through all four years. And yeah, it was pretty, pretty wild. And that dude respected you for that. Oh yeah. They all did. They all, they, wild. And that dude respected you for that? Oh, yeah. They all did. Yeah. And they called me, like, the princess, like the little princess kid. And it's just like they all respected me. They knew once I was in.

And it was, yeah, it was pretty wild. Are you the team captain on the Invictus team? Yeah, I would say so, yeah. You went to Italy. Mm-hmm. And you got to hang out with Rich. Yeah. And he's definitely not short of leadership skills. No, not at all.

Did you glean? Did you enjoy that? What was that like? And you got to actually spend some personal time with him, like hot tub time and stuff right yeah yeah yeah it was it was i would say one of the best experiences of my life um just because i've always like looked up to him and um not just in the sport but like you said just the way he leads um that's kind of my entire life the way i've tried to be um so yeah it was great i mean it was it was so cool because we'd get done with competing and we were staying in the whole in the same hotel and stuff and and after every single competition we'd go into the pool and his family Hillary and all the kids were there and stuff and and I just got to really know him on a personal level just like outside of CrossFit we talked about football his favorite team the way he grew up, how like him playing baseball.

And I just kind of, I feel like I connected because I feel like my life has gone the same way his has. So it's, you know, obviously he's like the greatest in the sport, I think. And it's just like, it was, it was so cool for me. It was, it was a great experience. Did you know he was going to be there? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I did. But you didn't know that you were going to bond with him i didn't know i was going to bond with him but i did want to i didn't want to obviously talk to

him and stuff out there um but yeah i just it was it was a really good bonding moment and stuff and it was it was cool for him to kind of let me in and just kind of talk and I'm outside of CrossFit. Fortuitous that you guys stayed at the same hotel, just like, wow, this is. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, it's not a, it's not a stretch to see the parallels right away between you both.

You had a professional baseball aspirations. You took it a little bit further than he did. And. And then both of you pivoted to CrossFit accidentally. Yes. When you were in track, what did you do? Oh, wow, that's you? Yeah. Yeah, look at that forearm on you. Yeah, that's me.

And you had Tommy John's injury. I did, yeah. I tore the U-L my junior year actually. And you didn't have surgery. I didn't know. Is that a, did you have a chiropractor in your family or someone who told you the body can heal itself? Or is that a cultural thing?

Mexicans don't go under the knife or why didn't you, why didn't you have the surgery? So growing up, i've had injuries broken fibula torn knees uh just stuff like that and i kind of no one really told me to do so i mean honestly in a mexican household your mom's and my mom would be like hey you're going to the doctor they're going to figure this stuff out so i always went against the grain with that um on my own I just never liked taking medications never really like taking anything to help me I always felt like I would say better um when I was injured if I handled it on my own um I don't understand I don't know where I got it from

but I just always felt like the body heals itself let some blood flow get into it. Try not to sit and elevate too much. So I just kind of took that. There's some pictures of me in high school my senior year. I broke my fibula and I got this cast made. Your fibula is in your leg? Yeah, the outer bone. Okay. And so I just continue to play on it uh with like this kind of cast that

bounces up until this day it feels fine like i never took the time off so i just kind of took that into all my injuries and it just kind of got me through it caleb what is um tommy johns or jorge do you know exactly do you know what it is c Caleb? Yeah. So Tommy Johns is, so you have the, you know, which is like in the inside of your elbow. So that's getting stressed over and over, especially as a pitcher. It's like right here. Oh, okay. Right. Right. The crook of the elbow. Yeah. And when you stress it over and over and over,

I've lost you, all that stuff, it could eventually just break. But what happens is when you have surgery on it, they anchor it into the bone. They like create a graft. like they take somebody else's like a cadaver ligament or they take like a piece of a ligament elsewhere in your body and they will like drill it into the bones of your elbow and actually ends up being stronger after the fact if you obviously you rehab properly following that and all that stuff but if it's i mean i'm guessing in the case it wasn't necessarily that bad where it was able to heal on its own and he was able to rehabilitate it and still play with it. So the thing with that is I had third degree tear, like I completely shot up.

Hey, is it this thing that hurts when you do too many pegboards? It's something attached to that nodule there. It's like right, right under the bone so if you feel the bone that ligament that runs right under it oh like the funny bone like when the dog bites you with this tooth there and your whole body jolts when you tear it you'll feel like the tingling numbness all the way through your fingers okay oh shit yeah and so yours did yours tear completely and like does it when it tears does it recoil in so mine mine did mine shot and recoiled so like if you push my arm here on this side the the bones will open up because there's nothing there kind of holding them together um what bone this elbow bone or the

two bones in your in your tricep so you see the humerus which is the humerus which is the upper bone here and then your um your ulna which is the larger of the two bones in your forearm like those two will kind of like separate if it's not repaired yeah like there's a like if you were to feel somebody who or i guess probably on his left arm is he's going to have a really strong resistance and you're trying to get like a lateral force to it but on his affected arm so his right arm if you put that lateral force on it you're going to get so much laxity that it'll start to like it's basically like a spring it'll just open up and close that's right jorge yeah and yours is like that you have so you have

i mean obviously i don't sit here and like hey push on my like i protect it so but yeah how does that work when you're doing like your your kipping pull-ups or your muscle-ups and stuff like that you just do lower volume of those or? No, not at all. No, I just, I don't know. I don't know. I don't feel it when I'm doing anything. Yeah. Like I've never really felt it, which is the craziest thing because I was supposed to get reconstructive surgery. They're going to pull from my hamstring and reattach it and stuff. But I just, I mean, I just strengthen my forearm and bicep and yeah so the bicep which

is interesting because the bicep itself runs like it attaches to that same bone where the ligament is um so that would make sense interesting there's there's one there's one position which I hardly ever feel um but like if I go into a clean like and it gets deeper than it's supposed to I could feel where this kind of goes like it kind of opens up a little bit and I just like kind of let it go but it's it hardly ever bothers me it makes sense yeah so god that's amazing i i love these stories where the body just heals itself takes care of itself compensates and so so when you say you strengthened your forearm uh grippers extensions bicep curls hammer curls you just do all that stuff too yeah so when i was when i was in uh college um every single day i would go to rehab um at the training facility there for three times a day so it'd be

like morning session go to class before practice go to practice and then after practice and it was just all forearm bicep stuff um which made and there was this weird thing he would i mean he would grasp in my uh my forearm but he found this technique that he said something to do with rats like they would do it on rats that had like broken or torn something and it kind of helped to like alleviate pain and so he would do that grasping in my elbow which helps so much um so it's like grass and all that uh all that stuff trying to strengthen that's with like that tool right like that metal tool yeah he'd be scraping like deep in there um but it would alleviate so much it was the weirdest i don't know if it was like kind of smoothening out like all the stuff that was built up

but yeah i would do that three times a day what does that do prevent scar tissue from building caleb yeah i would say that's that's probably what it does it just kind of uh it promotes some blood flow to the area too especially since it's like a ligament there's not a ton of blood flow in that to ligaments at all so if you can kind of push some more blood in there, push the blood out, that kind of thing, I think that's, that would be the theory. Crazy.

You're, you're going teams again. The team is staying together. Yes. Yeah. And, um, in the team staying together,

but don't you guys have a pretty, um, a rigorous qualifying protocol at Invictus? How do you know the team staying together, but don't you guys have a pretty, um, a rigorous qualifying protocol at Invictus? How do you know the team stays together because you guys did so well last year, you just bypassed that, um, protocol. Yeah. Yeah. And we've worked so well together for the last year and a half and stuff. And I think, I think, yeah, we're, we all committed and stuff.

We're all going to stay. So. Do you guys talk to CJj or who or tino or whoever's in charge of the teams over there like hey uh we want to stay together and they're like okay fine we'll do that okay yeah everyone's on board with it and um and so that leadership translates to there too they got a guy who's not drinking alcohol not drinking coffee goes through all this rehabs, doing these extensive warmups. These are all things that you're, you show by example. Yeah. Uh, like for instance, in 15 minutes, like I'll start my warmup and stuff like that. Um, no, you're not, no, you're not,

no, you're not. They're like, they they'll show up like in an hour. So at nine, so I try to start my workouts and warm up and be in here an hour before. That way they see like, I'm the first one here, last one to leave and just kind of lead by example and finish my sort of stuff to be able to talk to them while they're doing their stuff. And yeah, it's all, it's all fun to me. It's all, it comes like, I don't know, second nature to me. Just that's the part I love. It comes like, I don't know, second nature to me. That's the part I love.

So after Rogue, I was actually 99% I was going to go individual. I had so much fun at Rogue, and I just thought this is the year just to start my career. But then coming back, seeing everyone, it's my favorite thing to do is to lead people and to help them reach their full potential and stuff. So I would see like Britt, Josh, Devin around the gym. And I'm like, you know what? Like my goal here was to win the CrossFit Games on a team. We're all coming back. Like, let's get these guys on podium. Let's get that number one spot.

So that's my favorite thing, I would say, in the sport. let's get that number one spot so that that's that's my favorite thing i would say in the sport so going into rogue for sure team after rogue individual back with the family back to team no back well back with the family here but it's by family i meant your invictus family yes yes because i went back home and i actually and it sounds like an emotional decision, Jorge. Exactly. I sat on the decision for a month. I went back and forth and I kept, even with my family, I'm like, I'm going individual. I'm going individual. So I waited two weeks. Then I called my coach and I was like, hey, Holden, I'm going individual.

He said, yeah, we support whatever you want to do, whatever. And then I got back here. Same thing. I'm going individual and then i just kind of like saw everyone hung out with them and i i remembered why i started invictus and why i started prospect and back to team back to team yeah good on you good on you do you have do you feel like you're 27 28 28 do you feel the clock ticking not really no not yet i mean body you don't put pressure on yourself you're not like was that part

of your decision like hey if i don't go and if i don't go individual this year i'm reducing one more year that I can go individual you know what's funny is me personally no I didn't think I didn't think like oh yeah it's really gonna kill my clock and stuff but every single person I talked to said that hey you know what like you're running out of time and I mean no I don't feel like that I don't know how long I'm gonna do this and I don't know how long my body will last, but mentally I'm in a great spot. I feel like, I don't feel like all my time's running out.

Are you pretty, are you an emotional person? Yes, very. But I don't act off emotion and I sit with it and I analyze it myself and then I'll kind of make the decisions yeah and i was also thinking along the lines like wherever you're um if you're emotionally happy with your team you can generate a shitload of power and energy from that yes exactly so every everything lines up i mean it's just up to us to focus and to to train smart um and to execute and everything else will come so at wadapalooza you're just doing team yeah just team um as as andrew hiller uh

says in his videos all the time i don't know shit from fuck but let me propose this idea idea to you first let me ask you a loaded question a leading question what was the difference between being individual at rogue and going as a team in terms of the nuances of competition and and i'll give you the follow-up too do you need more individual competition why if you're going team at the games why not do walupalooza individual and do a bunch of individual stuff so you're prepping for your 2024 individual season? Yeah. Okay. So I made the decision not to go to Guadalupalooza individual because I actually did quite a bit of competitions through this off

season okay um so i'm trying to be smart which it sucks because i i'd compete in everything if i could you know or if i didn't understand that not competing so much is really good for me um so i made the decision i'm gonna go try to have fun and, and, and get to compete with Sam dancer and Josh. Like that's, that's freaking awesome to me. Um, so I'm going to go there, have some fun, obviously try to compete to my full ability, but I just think it's smart to sit back on that individual side. Um, and then for learning, like I'm doing things to learn, obviously, like there there's

people I reach out to and stuff and, and try to apply that into my training. So it's not like I'm not trying to learn for individual. Yes, I do need a couple more competitions to understand pacing and stuff like that. Because I think that's the biggest thing right now for me is learning how to pace on the individual side. Team is sprint as fast as you can, rest, let your partner go, whereas individuals, you kind of have to pace and understand when you can push and when you can't. So I don't know.

I'm in a good spot right now mentally in that sense. I understand what I need. And right now, I think team at water palooza is is going to be a good reset mentally for me to get ready for the big game season uh graham i'm late to the party rich pulled out bruce wayne did rich pull out of water palooza? That's news to me. I don't know. Danny Soler, he should train with Froning. They have a lot of similarities.

I think he's pretty happy where he's at, but I was thinking after he got off the air, I was going to predict to Caleb that when he goes individuals, we will see him head over to maybe a different camp. No, he did not. Okay, good. Good, good, good, good. Oh, that's great.

Rich is still going to Guadalupalooza. You never know with these old guys. He can just get a flat tire any moment. I mean, Rich will have a flat tire and he'll still keep going, so it don't matter. You got to give him like three flat tires. Yeah, right. In Italy, that was one thing before the one event. I kind of looked at him.

I was like, hey, if I beat you in this event, you have to go one more year and I'm going to try to beat you at the games. He just kind of laughed. Did you beat him? No. I took second to him. What did you do when you were in school? What was your track and field career like? Did you do that more than one year?

I did it two years, seventh and eighth grade, because once I did football, I was all in on football. But I did some pole vaults. I did the 200 meters and then the 110 hurdles. Oh, and I shot or through the discus no shit a little tiny kid through the discus yeah i was i was small but i promised you i had a good arm okay i well i believe it uh can he grow but no that he's been growing that facial hair since the third grade are you fucking kidding me he told you he's mexican that facial hair since the third grade. Are you fucking kidding me? He told you he's Mexican. That's the biggest beard any Mexicans ever had.

What are you talking about? That's so true. Uh, and then, so you graduate from high school and, uh, baseball is your thing. And what happens from there?

All right. So I go, so actually, so out of high school i emailed texas state i really wanted to go to texas state and san marcos which was like three hours away from my hometown um i emailed them and i asked if they had any like tryouts or anything for the baseball team um they had this like baseball camp so i went and kind of try to showcase everything. And they offered me a walk on spot, which is scary, right?

Like that's the worst spot you can be offered, right? Yeah. You're good enough to come back and try again, basically. But you're not on the team. OK, exactly. So did you think that would did you go there with confidence? Like, were you the best baseball player in your high school? I was, yeah.

I was just the star pitcher and stuff. Not the best player, but just up there. I was one of the pitchers. I took that like, yeah, I'm going to Texas State. I'm going to go try to walk on and stuff. Little did I know the reality of college sports and my development and how much of it I needed to be there. So I got there. I got distracted with the girls and the drinking and all that stuff.

And I actually. There's a lot of girls at Texas State. Yeah. Yeah. And back then, like being from a small border town, like, I mean, there's pretty girls in my hometown and stuff. But once i got to college it's like it's a tsunami it's a tsunami of hot chicks in texas yeah so so went out there and we had the fall to try out so yeah i'll see also party school definitely yeah texas state so

got distracted try to compete and you know it was weird because that was the first time in my life that I started thinking about outcomes and not what I'm doing now so it's like am I gonna make the team am I good enough am I gonna do well and I was playing so bad and so the coach brought me in in the meeting and said you're not good enough to make the roster you can come back if you want or you can whatever you want to do and so that was the first time that I ever got told no and that I wasn't good enough for something and so I went back home to my dorm I gave myself one night to cry and I cried all night and then I emailed a bunch of junior colleges the next day and said hey you know what like I'm trying to find a new school um so San Jack in Houston one of the best junior colleges in baseball um said hey you can come try

walk on if you want so I drove to Houston tried out and then they offered me that walk-on spot and then kind of walked onto their program first year same meeting there it is Sanjay yeah first year same meeting um and they said hey the only reason we're going to keep you is because you're the hardest worker on the team um but you're not going to play very much so if it's up to you if you want to stay so I stayed and then um I decided to cut something out I was a two-way player. I cut out being a shortstop, and I said, hey, you know what? I'm going to pitch only.

Started working really hard at pitching, and then came back and became their star closer, and then pitched a year, and then got a bunch of offers to play around the country. What does that mean, work really hard in baseball? What does that look like? And how old are you at the time you're 20 at the time 19 i was 22 okay 22 um and work hard i mean i was always like i led by example i was always first on the sprints first to the field for last off the field i cleaned up trash like when when no one was cleaning trash like just a

bunch of stuff that i could show that hey you know what like this is the right thing to do let's keep let's get it going um and so yeah that's the only reason why they kept me and so i mean that was the best thing that ever happened to me honestly and and what about what about the um partying you started cutting that back too yeah yeah that was that freshman year though uh yeah i stopped after that and just kind of got serious in baseball and took that no really serious the no that the first coach gave me really serious and decided to work on myself and yeah do girls like you a lot? Um, I mean, I just. Are you a bit, are you a chick magnet?

Like if you go somewhere, do you notice that you girls are girls? Like, you know, like if you pull out a ball, three dogs in the room, we'll look at it. If you walk in the room, do three girls look at you? I don't know. I mean, I'm friendly and stuff, so I don't see why that I wouldn't like, I wouldn't be a threat. So I don't know. Yeah. would like i'm just i wouldn't be a threat so i don't know yeah caleb do you have a vote do you think he's a chick magnet definitely definitely i appreciate it thank you um uh we we had a um uh nikki rod on here i've talked about this quote a lot but i said

something he's um nikki rodriguez is uh you know one of the best jujitsu uh you know guys in the space and i said hey how do you keep the distraction of girls out how do you not aren't you chasing girls all over and he says alphas don't chase girls i never ever chased a girl i won't chase a girl it's not what i do i mean it's kind of right there and he said that um he's had the same girlfriend for i i think they're engaged now but for like 12 years and i said does she ever interfere with your um here's here's mr nikki rod um i said do girls ever interfere with your ability like you want to be the best brazilian jiu-jitsu guy in the world so that means you have to put that first. Does your girlfriend ever get in the way or interfere?

And he said, if she did, I would get rid of her. Yeah, this is Beyonce of 12 years. I'm like, this is some crazy focus. To be honest with you, she probably. He's doing so well because of her. I'm sure the support and all that stuff, like they're aligning pretty, pretty well. Her her her believing. Explain that to me. What do you mean because of her? I think I agree with you because that's the way it is with my wife. I think I'm doing so well because of her too. Yeah. Like he's, she's probably just like his, I don't know. We're, we're obviously we're, we train very hard and always in this, this this space but having that person at home in your corner all the time like that's a huge i think a huge reason why he's doing so well is having like such a strong rock in his

life um i don't know it seems like from the pictures i just saw it just seems like uh yeah what what would those qualities be in a way What would what would advice would you give to a man or a woman, either one who wants to be with someone who's at the, you know, apex predator at the pinnacle of their, you know, career? Someone who's like like super duper goal oriented like you or like him? Yeah, I mean, it's definitely hard for I would say for the female just because we're so goal driven and that's the number one thing in our life um but i don't know it's a give and take like obviously in a relationship it's you give i give it's it's just all about giving um but i guess the advice i would say is just like i mean i don't know just understand each other and be there for each other so I don't know like dating you isn't normal it's not it's really not I'm very hard to

date yeah yeah I mean you you it's kind of like um you know you could have a bet like you probably had best friends on your baseball team in high school yes and i maybe i think women don't understand this as well just because of the way they're wired but you have a best friend in baseball but then all of a sudden when you guys aren't on the same team and your paths change it just is that way it's like i had a friend i played frisbee with every day for six years but if he didn't play and i loved him and i do love him but the second we stopped playing frisbee our friendships drifted away because our paths just didn't cross yes and so it's almost it's harsh to say but if you are a woman or a man who wants to be at the

top of your game if your paths don't cross with your mate like like the relationship's out of convenience and that may sound like it takes away from how much you love the person, but it doesn't. But it's hard for some people to get their head wrapped around that, right? Exactly. You have a girlfriend? No, I'm single. Is it better that way? I'm very goal-oriented, so I'm just focused on me. Um,

I don't know. God, I hope you get a lot of DMS with girls throwing themselves at you after this. No, at least one, maybe. Uh, nothing wrong with chasing girls. I hear they like it. I don't know, man.

I think I wasted too much time chasing girls. I chased girls for a long time and I think it was fucking a huge, uh, I don't want to say waste of time, but, um, here we go. Heidi,

he's single. Yeah. What about, um, jujitsu? Have you ever dabbled in wrestling or jujitsu? No, I haven't that jujitsu. Um, I mean,

I still ski here and there skiing, those two skateboarding, those three things I'm very cautious about. Um, I just feel like there's no control and anything can kind of, so I, I just right now as I'm trying to compete and stuff, just like I did in baseball, like I stay away from that kind of stuff. Just don't want to. Yeah. If you if you have any goals in life other than skateboarding, you shouldn't skateboard.

That shit is fucking especially if you're over 20. You're just asking. I feel pretty athletic and I can kind of get myself out of situations. But on a skateboard, it's like i've had times where i like hit something and i just go flying like i can't risk that you roller skate ever when's the last time you roller skated so i used to there's a skating rink in my hometown pretty much the only thing to do outside of sports um so yeah i do the i love rollerblading i actually went when i went back home after road um which is pretty fun and it's's not, I'm not doing the four in line.

Like I'm doing the actual four, like the roller skates. Like those are cool. Yeah. Yeah. I just started, I hadn't roller skated like in, I don't know, 35 years. And I just started roller skating to get at the rink. And I just like go really slow in circles. Yeah.

But I love it. It's smooth. I love it. Yeah. When they play the music and you're just kind of going It's smooth. I love it. Yeah. When they play the music and you just kind of going around. Yeah. I love it. Yeah.

It's amazing how many shitty roller skaters there are. Like I went in there and I was like in the 51 percentile, like 50% of the people were worse than me. I was like, this is awesome. Yeah. It's cause it feels like, well,

that was something I did back then. It just feels like no one really does it anymore. So we're still kind of, we still have our skills and we bring them in and I was how'd you know how to do that also the thing is being as crossfitters we know how to watch movements and then replicate them yeah so i just saw hey people are just waddling back and forth so i just lift my foot up and waddle back and forth and i start going forward and then i see all the kids are trying to do this shit like they're on escape and they're like, nah.

And you realize quickly, too, that like, hey, don't ever lean back. Like all these people are doing this shit. I'm like, I'm falling forward always. Yeah. I'm falling forward always. So we so I went back home and we did that. And I guess this lady, my mom asked her to take a picture of us. And I just saw her kind of skating to us. And I knew she wasn't going to be able to stand up and take a picture.

So she stood up. She kind of rollerbladed to us. And my mom handed her the phone. And I saw where she leaned back like this. And she landed on her hand. And her wrist broke. And it was like the, yeah, it was. But you're talking about leaning back like

this and all your weight it's the same thing when you're running right if you're running downhill on wet grass like you have to tell yourself no matter what don't try to stop and if you're gonna fall fall forward and roll do not fall back yeah you ain't saving shit no not at all um and then and then so you go to this uh junior college and play baseball and how does that play out so the junior college was actually like i said it's well besides my coach cutting me at texas state the second best thing to ever happen to me in my life was going to that junior college and the reason I say that is because junior college if you've ever been to one or understand how they work there's really no NCAA rules where like you can only practice a certain

amount of time you have to be in class and in junior college we're on the field 12 hours a day like it's it's there's no rules the coach can practice as many days as you want like so we're on the field 12 hours a day like it's it's there's no rules the coach can practice as many days as you want like so we're on that field like i'm not even exaggerating 10 to 12 hours like non-stop practice then you go home there's no distraction there's no girls in junior college there's no drinking really like it's just like straight like so I mean I don't know how the military is but it kind of had the like like absolutely yeah absolutely that's all you're doing nothing else um and junior college being one of the best junior college baseball teams in the nation they take their baseball pretty serious um so yeah it just felt like I was a robot every single day waking up baseball baseball baseball

baseball for two years and so it allowed me to develop to understand the game to be around it more to get the reps um and so I I pitched pretty well my the first year I was there the second year because you only go to junior college for two years the second year I was getting scouted by major league teams college teams um and so I ended up committing to San Diego State um it was the first time I'd ever been to California they flew me out for a visit the first time I've ever been to California and from being from Del Rio where you don't see water and or anything like that like I fell in love with it and I came here to San Diego and that and that's where your injury occurred yes that's where it occurred and when that injury occurs is it a in a in a moment you just know like there's an actual pitch and you throw it and you're like oh yeah so I was pitching against Tennessee um they Tennessee came

to play us the volunteers and I had five shutout innings which they weren't hitting I was throwing really really well um it was the hardest I'd ever thrown um the crowd everything was just going good and so I had two strikes on the guy and the third strike my out pitch the pitch I like to go to is my slider and I just remember thinking in that moment I'm about to throw the hardest and best slider ever like I'm gonna throw the shit out of this ball so I went to throw it and my hand just kind of if you see my hand it kind of turned over this way so it put a lot of stress on my elbow and i i once i went across like i just felt everything pop and so i felt the tingling i turned around and i knew immediately what had happened because i've thrown all my life like i understand i've never felt this like this

is definitely tummy like my uh ligament just kind of so i went up for the next pitch and i threw it and it didn't even get halfway but when i didn't even make it halfway to the mound yeah i didn't make it it was a curveball and it just kind of died right in front of the mound so i threw it and i just kind of i grabbed my hamstring and i started hopping up and down um and so my trainer came i was like what's going on with your hamstring i'm like dude i just tore my arm but oh so you fake the hamstring to not draw attention to the arm yeah so i'm like i grabbed my hand i'm like i can't let this like the scouts were videoing and they're because the draft is coming up and so i yeah i fake my hamstring i kind of walk off and i'm like dude my elbow like

i need an mri i tore it like um and my coach didn't want to give me an MRI he he said you're gonna pitch next Tuesday against number 25 USD um and so I was like yeah all right let's do it so we went it was throbbing it was the worst pain ever but he's like we're gonna throw all fastballs against USD so fastball in out up down in out up down and I went from throwing 94 96 to like 88 90 like but i threw four shutout innings against usd they couldn't hit it it was just fastball fastball fastball and then the last time i threw i went into the dugout i said i think i earned my mri because my arm was like trembling like he's like okay we'll get you an mri and so that week we got it and it was completely torn you pitch a complete wow it was completely torn. You pitch a complete, wow.

It was not a crazy story. That's the thing about college sports. Were you glad your coach, say that again, Caleb? That's another thing about college sports too. It's like, you know, some shit's wrong and you tell them about it. And they're like, nah, dude, you're on scholarship, buddy. You're not going to get that. So here we go.

The business side of it it which I've always told myself like I'd be really like I could probably help kids that are trying to become college athletes and stuff through the experience I've went through but the business side of sports and that was nothing so like I got I got done I got done making the decision hey you know what we're not going to get the surgery. I'm going to continue to pitch. And that was something that I talked to my head coach about. Like, we're going to get through this year.

If I don't get the surgery, my scholarship stays, right? Yeah, your scholarship stays. You'll be fine. I promise you, whatever. So we leave for summer, come back come back and fall and the counselor calls me hey you need to come and sign your letter of intent like I said I signed it already what are you talking about it's like oh coach sent a new one um I emailed it over no scholarship

oh shit so I without telling you to your face that's how you have to find out yeah what a douche so i uh so i went this was hey did you know that guy was a pussy so i uh i or were you surprised were you surprised i don't know i it's business you know college sports is business yeah but just look a guy in the eye like you grabbed the kid with the face mask and said hey don't fuck the fumble up like he should he shouldn't even like come over to your house and or or like called you into the office and been like hey dude i gotta renege on my promise well it's it's it's all business business so i i mean i didn't i didn't stand down i took the scholarship i went to his office i slammed on the desk and i said hey you know what remember the promise you made me like this is me holding

my end of the deal and we went back back and forth, slamming desks and talking and ended up leaving for a week to spend time with family. When I got back, scholarship was back. And, you know, from that point on, you lead by example. No hard feelings. Gave my coach a hug every single day to show, hey, you know what, we're all good in front of everyone and just continue to play. you couldn't play because your arm was all jacked up i continue to play you have strength and everything i couldn't throw as hard so i was only throwing

89 92 where oh my god i mean i still play yeah that's still good that's like waking up one morning and your penis is only half the length it used to be this one oh my god that must have been frustrating i mean yeah it was very frustrating um just the most frustrating part was my dream was to make major leagues you know and so i didn't so before all the, the scholarship stuff happened. Um, the draft was coming up. And so I was getting calls like, Hey, would you take this amount of money? Money sounded really good. So I'm like, yes, like I'm ready to sign. And so my agent calls me the week before the draft.

I was like, Hey, you're going to have to call and tell these scouts that you tore your UCL because you got the MRI. Now it's in your medical records. And that's the first thing they ask is like, if they're going to invest to call and tell these scouts that you tore your UCL because you got the MRI. Now it's in your medical records. And that's the first thing they ask is like, if they're going to invest in you, they're going to look through all your stuff. So, yeah.

So I had to call every single scout and say, Hey, I tore my arm. It wasn't my hamstring. Cause they still believe it was my hamstring. And so I told them all in there like, yeah, all right,

we'll go back to school. We'll see you next year. So it was like every single scout I had to call and they're like, okay, we'll see you next year. We'll see you next year. And so I didn't get drafted. And then my senior year, it was just like, will you take senior sign, which is like 5,000. And so that's when I made the decision. I can't play for 5,000.

Because the minimum you make a month is $1,100. Did they pay you to play college baseball no i'm saying like if if i take that next level like oh oh yeah hey do you think there's any pros in major league baseball who play with um the injury you had and didn't have it repaired and just we don't know about it yes well 100 yeah you think there's pros out there get out there on the mound and they have they they have a they have the same wiggly arm thing that you got i'm sure yeah because there's a lot of like i'm sure we all have micro tears and stuff like that like there's just inevitable there's too much strain that that throwing motion is not what we're supposed to be doing um but yeah i'm sure people don't even know that's torn and it's torn like yeah uh craig

white nice to see you back i'll be sure to dislike this video uh thank you i appreciate it for how about for jorge you like it for jorge you like and subscribe go over to jorge's channel too and also like and subscribe craig oh Craig yeah um I still don't understand why I didn't get the surgery it's so common seems like it would have extended his career yeah I can explain all like the my thought process behind that so when I went to the doctor and he told me that MRI completely torn you need reconstructive surgery so I've seen the surgery many times my teammates have had it um it takes a year and a half to two years to fully come back from it like if you want to fully like be throwing

the same you ever did with good rehab you could be a year maybe minimum but uh i've seen friends where they get the surgery they come back a year and a half later re-tear it then have to do it again so my thought process was I'm 24 in college with a torn UCL that puts me at 25 26 trying to come back to play college which puts me at 27 to try to get drafted which puts me at 28 like the average span is five to six years in the minor leagues like they're not going to like it's just not my career is over like i'm just going to enjoy my juniors or my the rest of my junior year my senior year um and i knew that i was going to retire after that season. Like it was, it was done from when I tore my arm. Hey, in hindsight, um, if you were talking to a young Jorge,

would you tell Jorge to, would you have done those exercises sooner? Strengthen the forearm and strengthen the bicep. Like do you think that's important for pitchers? Oh, 100%. Yeah. And so I was on a rigorous, um, program when I was in junior college, uh, the top Tom house, Tom house is the throwing doctor. He works with Tom Brady, Drew Brees. He's like the shoulder doctor. Like he understands how to throw. And so my, the friend who I lived with was very good friends with him. And so I was on all his

stuff for two years and that's how I got better and when I got to San Diego State obviously you have to follow all the instructions and everything the coaches give you so I stopped doing there he is so I stopped doing all that stuff and hopped on this new program so I think my arm just wasn't ready like it wasn't I was in very good shape throwing wise because of him and then i got to san diego state and i had to restart a new program and it just wasn't good for my arm not the program wasn't bad it was just i was so used to doing all of tom house's stuff go go back to that guy's uh resume i saw something on there that uh was a red flag

what's this guy's name? Tom house. Dear Tom, you have on their American college of sports medicine. Everyone knows that they are a shill for Coca-Cola. Please remove that. You're a good guy. And Jorge believes in you. There's no reason to have that shit bags,

Coca-Cola shill on your resume. Thank you. Okay. Just wanted to get that off my chest. Coffee, Pedro. Oh, Pedro, yesterday, I know I figured out why your podcast is never going to be successful, Pedro. Sorry, because you're too smart. I figured it out last night when I had Andrew Hiller on. The only things that are popular are things that are really dumbed down when you speak to the lowest common denominator and i watched your interview with jorge and you're way too good and way too smart you use too big of words so before you interview someone um drink six beers and hit yourself in the head with a bat you'll

be like the rest of us how cool is it that after all that adversity and rejection now he has a sport and adulation of fans and a medal that's soon to be replaced by a gold one see that's i mean like people love him i'm telling you this guy listened only dumb shit's like the no offense to the rock i like him but only people who make dumb movies like that become successful you have to really dumb your shit down i saw i cracked the code well you're too smart i'm telling you i just i just said it you use the word idiom you talked about idioms and you have that fancy accent like remember when you were talking uh jorge do you remember when you were talking about like going to a dark spot after college and he's like instead of saying hey were you suicidal like i would have like a jackass american he's like oh yes was it uh proper dark and i'm like oh these guys are so fucking good do you remember that part i do yeah i'm like proper it's just so classy

like like like you know but you know like you spit on the ground we all spit on the ground pedro pulls out a handkerchief and spits into it and it's not called spit it's probably called like sputtle or something i mean it's just like come on you're never ever going to be mainstream with that shit uh uh yeah dumb it down no wonder his show is so popular i'm telling you he's he's too he's too good um yeah the echo sebon is pretty sure been hearing it a while. Yeah, that's all Jorge's fault. I want to fucking lose my mind over it. It's because he's in, they've given him the worst room at Invictus to possibly do a podcast in. Sorry.

It's called the Tin Can Room. What is that room? It's pretty much, yeah, the Tin Can Room. No, it's just the room where they do, like, meetings and stuff. Please tell, um, CJ still owns that place? Yes. I'd like to have that room walled with foam. Have them do it with audio foam.

It'll also make the meetings better. Everyone's voice will sound nicer. Yeah, I'll tell them. Or go to one of those head shops that they have on every corner in San Diego where they sell bongs and just buy a bunch of tapestries. head shops that they have on every corner in san diego where they sell bongs and just buy a bunch of tapestries just hang them up there a bunch of peace signs and buddhas and stuff uh and then so you're in san diego no you're done with school and uh what happens there do you get a job like how do you figure out what you're gonna do with

your life one school are you tripping yeah yeah once school is over i'm sitting in my apartment like what the heck am i gonna do um how am i gonna pay my rent how am i gonna pay my rent what what am i gonna do with my life why did my ex-girlfriend leave me a girl left you yeah oh that's awesome that makes me think the world is fair why didn't i get drafted everything everything hits me right out of college because that was the first time i stopped playing sports like i've never i've never been yeah i've never not done anything so i just i sat there i started so i started thinking what am i going to do i'm good at fitness so let me just start coaching people like i'm going to start coaching clients and stuff and so i took that slow and then

i what about a baseball coach what about getting a job at the at the school and teaching baseball uh no i think i think once i gave up the dream of becoming a major league player i said i'm done like okay i'm done um which honestly one of the hardest parts was telling like my family that um i just remember thinking like i don't know my my parents and grandparents and stuff really liked me playing baseball and i was just i was supposed to be a major league baseball player in my own head and everyone's head too as well so that was the hardest part I was just sitting there like I didn't become what I wanted to be I didn't want to I didn't become what everyone wanted to be me to be so I was in a very very hard spot um and so I just started coaching clients here and there

um like I said I that's when the time when I reached out to my cousin and kind of had the idea of starting a gym. I don't know. Everything was really up in the air. And so honestly, I was walking. What kind of gym? Just like the normal gym? Lap pull-downs? Bench press?

Yeah. And just kind of like one-on-one coaching because I understood all that stuff, the bodybuilding and all that. And then, yeah, one time I was walking around downtown. I think I was trying to buy some shoes at this like little shop here um money you shouldn't be spending money i shouldn't be spending yeah um so i'm like trying to buy some shoes and i walked and i see him big like this warehouse and i kind of like popped my head in and i saw all the banners like there's like lauren fisher josh bridges all these bands i didn't know who they were at the time um but i walk in i'm like oh this is cool like i've never done this before like let me walk in and try it and so um i i signed up for a free week and i took regular

group classes like just the classes they have on the schedule had you heard of crossfit at that point i've heard of it yeah yeah definitely and like in high school and stuff like people would do it but i like walking i didn't know it was crossfit because nothing said crossfit on it it just said invictus fitness and then i saw the banners and i didn't understand like what it was um or i didn't understand that it was crossfit like and so i took the week class and and that's when I was like, oh, this is just CrossFit. So after that free week, I left for six months because I couldn't afford it, the membership.

What was the membership there, like $200 a month or something? Almost, yeah, like $200 a month at the time. And so... 2019 we're at. Yeah, 2019. And so I left, and i i don't know i kind of like got some money together and came back and joined the gym and i started in group classes and then i took the competition class which is like whoever's trying to compete they did they

help them develop their ring muscle stuff like like that, just kind of higher intensity workouts and stuff. So I joined that, and I met one of my best friends, Max Reynolds, and we kicked it off, and we said, hey, look, let's try to compete. Let's try to make an Invictus team. He was another dude there just working out. Just another dude, yeah, yeah. Hey, sorry to go, what did you like about it? Why would you do something a week, take six months off and come back?

There was something that you really liked in that first week. Yeah. I think it was like the girls. Yeah. No, the feeling of accomplishment. Cause I hadn't had that. Like sports was you work so hard and then you finish something and you're like, you feel good. And I didn't have that for the six months or the month, the months that I was like at home and stuff. And I think when I joined the class and seeing everyone and just kind of

like that CrossFit feeling that hooks you, I just couldn't stop thinking about like the classes when I left. And so, yeah, I was like, I need to go back. And so I joined it. And when I met Max,

we kind of made this funny thing. We said we're going to be the big dumb animals, the BDA, which is like two gorillas. And what we're going to do is we're going to show up every single day. We're going to try to compete on an Invictus team. We're going to say hi to everyone. We're going to try to be this kind of everyone. It was just like this dumb little thing we created. And so we started bringing more people into the comp class and then we got this huge crew and then i we decided to email tino one day i still have the email um just asking if we can we said we want to compete on an evictus team we don't care how long it takes we're willing to put

all our eggs into it and then tina was the first one to kind of believe in us and said hey you know what come join the athlete group which is a nine o'clock train camp that we do or class that we do every day um and that was when lauren fisher rasmus anderson eric carmody they were all there jen ryan um and so at first like it was kind of looking like who are these guys like and we just made it a point to do the BDA, the big gun animal thing, and just kind of shake everyone's hand at the beginning, say hi, and just kind of get everything going. And that's how it kind of kicked off. I'm sure Tina has heard that a million times. I want to go to the games.

I wonder why, what he thought was different about you, or if he just thought you'd be there for a week and they'd spit you out back into the regular classes. I'll have to ask them. I'll actually ask them that today that's a good question yeah crazy and you were off to the races you never have left that class since yeah no i mean i train at nine and again at 130 with everyone so no i haven't stopped absolutely nuts and and were you like the were you the worst person in the class when you got in the class yeah i was yeah but i always like try to chase somebody so like i would just try to

like you would pick lauren fisher and try to chase her start with her yes yeah yeah even the girls right oh yeah even the girls yeah and um and how many days a week are you in invictus um so we train monday tuesday wednesday thursday off and then friday saturday we train and what do you do on sunday sunday uh just go for walks and stuff i try to i stay out of the gym and just try not to work out um you told uh ped Pedro a story about the Rogue Invitational, about how you didn't have intentions of going to Rogue. Can you tell us that story? Yeah.

So right before the games, Holden had asked me if I wanted to do the Rogue Invitational qualifiers because Chandler was coming into town to visit. This is right before the games uh holden had asked me if i wanted to do the rogue invitational qualifiers because chandler was coming into town to visit this is right before the games right before the 2022 okay yeah and so i said yeah you know what i'll do like of course it's chandler like i'd love to work out with him so i kind of told him yes and so i completely forgot about it and we were traveling back and he's like hey chandler's coming like in a week like you're still gonna do them and I I had to go to Italy and stuff and I was just like yeah I'll do them like I I don't know if I should because of my body and stuff like I wanted to obviously rest

after games and all that but yeah I was like you know what I'm gonna take the opportunity to train with Chandler like I've never trained with him and it'd be cool so he came in and we since the like the beginning the first work the first workout we competed against each other and I won like I beat Chandler and Josh and from then on I was like okay I'm going I'm gonna try to make Rogue and so we just kind of battled the whole time the whole weekend and it was good atmosphere and stuff and yeah I was able to qualify so it's after madison you you took third place at the crossfit games you're licking your wounds and when you say you're making your way back meaning like what were you guys doing like headed back home like did you fly or drive or oh we flew and and so then he how soon is Rogue after the games? It's that soon, huh? No, it was, what, in October?

Not that soon. Or wait, when was it? Did you stay in Madison after the games for a week or something? No, no, a couple days. But I was saying the qualifier was. Okay. Yeah. The qualifier was, like, right after games or something,

and I just didn't have, like, mentally I was, like, kind of, we had been training so hard before games and it was just i was coming down and so it just didn't sound very attractive to me why did chandler come to invictus to do it they were vacationing or something i think it was jesse's birthday and they just wanted to come to the west coast and kind of uh hang out and he just said who's gonna do it here or he had asked our coaches if he could come here. Is that the first time you met him? First time I met him, yeah. Is it awkward at first?

No, no, not at all. Like I said, I take that BDA approach to everyone, just kind of say hello and want to start kind of a friendship with everyone and stuff. But he's a really good guy and stuff. Yeah, he is. It was really easy to talk to him and stuff but he's a really good guy and stuff so yeah he is it was really easy to to talk to him and stuff and he never made me feel like i didn't belong there training with him and stuff so really really good guy and then at the end of the qualifier you guys were tied we were tied yeah yeah we were tied that's pretty pretty wild uh if this was a worse show

seven would have said i heard you say on another podcast i watched your podcast yesterday on the assault bike i'm just stealing all your shit thank you just i just took your shit and dumbed it down a little bit i just dumbed you down a little bit pedro uh 430 pound uh front squat at the games. PR? Yeah, I would say because I hadn't tested that. Yeah. So for sure. Crazy.

Mm-hmm. Have you done it since? That much? Yeah. No, I think like 415 maybe. I haven't gone that heavy. Your goal is to win the CrossFit Games? Mm-hmm.

Like as an individual? Both team and individual, yeah. When I hear you interviewed, you remind me of Samuel Cornway. You know who that is? Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's cool. Yeah, he's pretty sure of himself. Were your parents able to watch the games?

Yeah. So they didn't really understand CrossFit, but they've loved every second of it. They watch the games. They always replay the Rogue and stuff on YouTube. So, yeah, they got to watch it and and your parents look like that they're pretty fit like you don't got fat parents yeah they're i mean they're active and stuff my dad likes to run and stuff and my mom yeah they eat pretty healthy so was that part of your growing up a premium on your health um no definitely not we loved eating tortillas and butter on tortillas and of all that good stuff so but i was always very active so i kind of

understood hey like try not to eat this before this and sports was huge and it taught me a lot what's the most you've ever weighed Jorge 204 at the games last year what's the most you ever weighed just like getting out of bed like just like just is there a fat boy Jorge you ever been 230 yeah when I got not 230 I think I was not 204 against 206 when I was my freshman year of college when i was drinking and doing all that stuff and i went home before going to sand jack yeah i was just yeah it was not healthy 220 no i was like 206 but it's just not a healthy weight like i was just like kind of like just eating all that pizza and drinking beer and all that um when you look when you look look uh forward to the open this year uh balls to the wall yeah you don't have the attitude to

open doesn't matter no i i enjoy i enjoy the open and just kind of seeing where i'm at at that time so i like to go 100 on it and every every year so i had so 2019 i have the the stats i don't know the stats on my open stuff but i write the number i want on a book so like i'd be like top thousand or the first one was top 2000 my first open and i got like 1100 or something then the next one was like okay top 500 and i got liketh or something then the next one was like okay top 500 and i got like 200 and something then the next one was top 100 and i think i took 60th so this year's gonna be kind of hard top 50 so i'm gonna try to just get that you can do it i think taylor self did it if he can do it you can do it nice um yeah i'm excited to do it i really like the

open and just kind of everything leading up to it so easy day for you hey um when you pre-crossfit what what did you have any um uh wow i can't believe you got top 2000 in your first year that is nuts yeah that's yeah um did you have any um gym numbers that you remember before you did crossfit like you bet that you benched 300 pounds or you did 20 strict pull-ups or what what kind of shit could you do before you came to crossfit yeah so i was always pretty strong just because my football coaches and stuff would make me lift with the linemen through high school and all that um but in high school i was squatting like 380 crazy close to 400 pounds um not not to parallel though high school squats like only this far down yeah yeah definitely right above parallel you know not all the way down um but no actually max so my max back squat ever was when I was in junior college.

My Cuban trainer had me do heavy squats, and I hit 535 when I was in junior college. Yeah, 535. When's the last time you back squatted 500 pounds? I don't think I've gotten to 500. I think I hit 485 a couple months ago yeah god that doesn't even look like you

yeah that was that vein in your neck's about to get Tommy John's yeah 455 for 3 I think that was a 3 right next yeah you took 14th at Rogue 55 for three, I think. That was a three right next. Yeah. You took 14th at Rogue. 12th, I think.

12th? I think so. Did you like that placement? Because I think I heard you say you wanted to be top five. No, I think my goal at the time was top eight uh when I spoke to you um but it it definitely showed like so 12th was exactly where I should should have been or if not a little further down the field um but it was it was a lot of um like just kind of like rookie I mean being my first time like little mistakes I made oh 13th there you, like little mistakes I made. Oh, 13. There you go.

Um, little mistakes. So there's like a couple of those placements where I've could have gotten like top 10 or a little bit closer. Um, or I like got a no rep and I didn't adjust the right way. Like there was little things that kind of got me outside of that top 10 or top eight that I wanted, but it definitely showed where I was. Um, just lack of experience on some of those. What was the workout you got second in the 31 second workout? The, uh, the rope climb, the race, like the rope climb sandbag. Oh, that's right. Yeah. You went to the final in that. I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. Was there a hiccup there? you had to do something twice was there something weird about that um no no hiccups no just got all right beat by justin so but so that

really just shows your athleticism there right that's like that's like the athletic workout yeah that's the track football baseball soccer all like hey fuck throw crossfit out the door yeah this is jorge okay that's your base you know what's so funny though i can't tell this to my coaches like i felt exactly like when i would pitch in college because it'd be go out and do it so go road climb overhead squats sandbag then go to the dugout, put my hoodie on, sit in the dugout and wait till I go back out again. And then I go back out again, do it again and then come back to it. Um, I knew that at the end, if I could come off the rope at the same time as Justin, I would beat him, but he just got off that rope way faster and I couldn't catch him. Like,

yeah. So the leg, the leg list got me on that last one. I mean, you were the guy who was not supposed to be there, right? So these are 16 of the 17 fittest guys in the world showed up yeah uh they straight off the game straight from the games uh list of the best guys in the world and then here you are yeah yeah awesome congratulations and then that in that workout you took fourth and what was that workout um i want to say it was a nine-minute time domain. Caleb, we'll pull it up here in a second. I'm going to take a look at it. Four.

Did I take a fourth? I think you took a second and a fourth back-to-back, I saw. Was it not good? Good experience. Rogue was a great experience. You loved it? Oh, I loved it. Yeah, I loved it.

That's one I definitely would like to go back. It was the log. Oh. That was the one oh that was oh the oak the one rep oh yeah yeah yeah there yeah okay so once again your athleticism again paid off right because here's something that's so such weird shaped and you adapted to it yeah it's that one that one sucked too well not sucked but it's my placing so we had the tie break at the beginning do you remember what was just like a sandbag sprint so I had the two um the two bags by my side and I sprinted and I was in first and I kind of I tripped and I stumbled and that allowed for Ricky and Krennikov to pass me.

If I wouldn't have tripped, I would have taken first on that. And so when we went to the log, all three of us tied on that log. So it got me a fourth instead of a third place. Just with that little trip. And I almost face planted too. I'm surprised I didn't. But yeah, those little execution things. Look at how your whole being changes.

How much weight is that overhead? I want to say that was like 275, 285 maybe. Like I don't even recognize you. Yeah, it's different. I mean, you're just full of so much blood there. Look at that. That's crazy. Yeah, that was a cool event.

That was different. How tall are you like 5 10 5 9 and a half hey go back to that a second caleb um you're you were right-handed pitcher i was yeah is that yeah right where that arrow is is that bumper we is that where we're seeing is that the injury it could be i mean that's the area i don't know if that's what it is but i think that there's a there's a tiny muscle in there i think it's called the brachialis it might just be his brachialis because i don't see it on the other side yeah especially shadows you want to know why i wore that texas shirt is a fuck you to them no i love that oh okay why um so my dream school since i was a kid and i would ask for this on christmas on my christmas list to santa's to play for the university of texas baseball and uh yeah so i my junior year at not junior my sophomore year at san jack uh the junior

college their head baseball coach reached out to me and said hey you know what we're looking at you whatever and so they they said they were going to offer me and they never did and so i signed with san diego state and a week later they called me and they said hey we're sorry we had a uh they're they're clearing house so they basically fire all the coaches and stuff and so we didn't want to offer you and then you kind of be screwed. So that was the dream school that I almost went to that I wanted to go to. But my, my junior college coach is now the pitching coach at UT. And so I got to go visit him right before rogue and stuff.

And so that was the number one, that was like the school I've always wanted to go to is university of Texas. A classy, classy move that they reached out to you and at least told you that. Yeah, yeah. It was great. Because I was just kind of bummed out. I mean, obviously, I was happy with something with San Diego State and stuff. But, yeah, they were going to offer me.

I said, I don't care what you offer. I'm going to play for you guys. And they never did, but that's why. Hey, do you know what you're going wear to um uh wadapalooza like color wise and stuff or branding or like are you gonna have the same uh well the whole yeah yeah exactly like do you have your outfits picked out for wadapalooza oh no not yet not i mean if sam wants to match i'll match with him because he wears no bull. So you think that's a dumb question? No,

I mean, no, I don't. I mean, it's good to match. Like, I feel like if you look good, you're going to play good.

So, but, but, but the events like in a few days and you haven't picked out your clothes yet. So it's not that important to you. It's usually the night before the night before we get in our group text and we model for each other and we just try yeah um uh i led steve on astray with that one always you guys always lead me astray uh come on steve on your better no i'm not better than those questions come on uh andrew told me that's the dumbest

question ever i'm like what are you talking about i love that question yeah it's a good question i almost forgot it and then uh oh yeah look it's at the very top of my list too here number one question i put up there just to piss people off do you know what you're wearing at palooza that's funny um so for sure so you're going to water palooza on your team we We can watch you. Uh, you're the last two days, which is cool. That'll get to get you guys a lot of attention. People will be hyped.

All the individual athletes who aren't competing. We'll be watching, uh, the coverage will be polished by then. They'll knock the rest off in the first two days. It'll be you, uh, Sam dancer and Oshama.

Um, any chance you guys could have of getting on the podium there? Um, Sam, that's just too old. Well, his b bicep he just got off that bicep tear yeah surgery and stuff so i we kind of texted him and said hey you know what like don't push this we don't want him to get injured or anything so it's really us just going out there having fun like obviously we're going to try to go out on the podium and stuff but i don't want him to feel pressured to have to try to go too hard. I told him if the 3-2-1 comes and he says, you know what, I can't go,

I understand. I'm not trying to. I want him to be good at the end of the day. Right. What's your favorite ice cream? Yeah, that one's dumb as shit. Look good, feel good, play. Yep, i like that

uh they should be wearing a ceo shirt what's that shirt you wear i actually need one yes an xl if you have one okay i'm gonna get you an xl i'm gonna text you right when we get off and find your um uh you get your address perfect uh okay now here even d question. Jorge, want to be in love? You're a good dude, Heidi. Oh, yeah, here's another great one. If he can talk to any animal, what would it be and what would he say? God, I want to fucking kill myself. Jorge, thank you so much for coming on.

Thank you, guys. You were a crazy gentleman when I met you in person. All the interviews I watched yesterday, especially the coffee pods and wads, you're a class act. Your parents should be proud of you. And I really hope, since I've invested an hour and 40 minutes into you, that you continue to do well so you can help my numbers in the future when I come on the show. Of course, yeah. Great. Thank you so much for having me.

It was fun. Dude, anytime. Anytime. Will you guys be at Waterpalooza or you're not headed out there uh caleb is stuck in the desert uh on uh very far away but matt susan will be there the executive producer uh heidi will be there who is in the comments uh and a few other bruce wayne will be there people will be there with uh iphones and we'll be streaming live uh water has been so gracious to give us full access so we'll be i'll be kind of there you'll probably at, someone will hold up a phone and you'll see my picture and I'll say hi. Like zealous.

Like zealous. Yes, exactly. Sweet. All right, then. All right, dude. Thank you so much. Come on anytime. I consider you a friend.

Thanks, dude. Thanks. You as well. Have a good one. Bye, guys. Later, brother. I'm going to say it right now. I'm going to bet that when he goes individual, he ends up over at Mayhem.

Somebody even mentioned that in the comments, actually. I didn't even consider it. It's not a bad call. Stop by. Oh, yeah. Stop by. Jorge, can you hear me? Jorge, stop by the booth.

Stop by the booth, Jorge. he's an extra large though what are we gonna do Travis I only ordered larges what are we gonna do Caleb I'm gonna Caleb now is opening the door he thinks he hears something that he may need to address on the other side of the white door he's lowered the volume on the keyboard he can't hear me uh he hears something i mean i guess it's uh at first i thought it might be a patient but now i'm guessing it's two employees fighting two other uh having an argument and caleb wants to know what they're fighting about probably a patient actually actually. Oh. Hey, do you ever get people,

is it like a regular hospital? Do you ever get people, oh, so please stop by the Paper Street Coffee booth and the Vindicate booth to get your free shirts. And if we like you, or if you're registered for an event, I don't remember what the rules are for getting a free shirt. Gabe called me yesterday

and I pretended to understand, but I was watching my kid skateboard. But some of the rules have been changed about who gets a free shirt, but just go there and beg just go there and beg if you're a guy and you want a free shirt pull your pants up high enough and show a moose knuckle and if you're a girl pull your shirt back like that um yeah there's some free shirts yeah california hormones uh bought a thousand dollars worth of shirts and paper street coffee bought a thousand dollars worth of shirts uh and travis of course

gave us an amazing price on them and so we're giving them away for uh registrants um is your is your is is that you're in a hospital yes okay when i go to the hospital there's always like a couple people like ah like they're oding on some drug or something, right? They're the, they call them, what do they call them? No, they call them. The regulars. They're the regulars. There's a word for them.

Fuck. But do you, do you have, do you, first of all, do you have regulars do you have regulars yeah but not not like in that capacity like okay do you have any hypo are there any hypochondriacs you work with that you not you work with but that are on yeah yeah because there's hypochondriacs in the regular population so they got it definitely yeah and because like your medical record is tied to like your disability that people just come in just for stuff yeah that word yes frequent flyers thank you i have another show in 13 minutes i haven't sent out i haven't even sent out the links are you on that show too yeah i should be able to come on okay i'm gonna go refill my coffee drop a deuce um will you drop a deuce yeah

okay guys uh thank you uh sorry about the audio issues uh Let's blame CrossFit Invictus. And yeah, I love this. After looking closely at your medical records and evaluating your situation, you get 800 milligrams of ibuprofen. That's like the standard. I know it is. I've also found CTP from Barbara Shrugged. Sevan Hiller is a lousy detective.

It was my fault, too. He's not on social media. CTP doesn't do his own social media anymore. I'm pretty sure it's just his training things. Crystal will also be dropping a deuce. Crystal looks like she rides like her boyfriend has a low rider. Her boyfriend's car has hydraulics, for sure. Like an El Camino?

Yes. has a low rider like her boyfriend's car has hydraulics for sure like an el camino yes does does as uh ice cube it says she she does the three-wheel motion um okay so jorge fernandez good dude uh and we will be back in 12 minutes uh John Young and Brian Friend and C. Beaver to discuss. I think we're doing individuals first. If you want to get ahead of the curve, go on over to Brian Friend's Instagram account. He posted his pics, crazy pics. I like them, but they're crazy. Did you look at him, Caleb?

A little bit. They're crazy. Yeah, he got the concerning, yeah. But nice, he got Emma Carey up at the top of the heap. I'm a huge Emma Carey fan. I didn't, I'm a huge Emma Carey fan. That would surprise me the most, I think. Take us with you to the DMV.

God, there's few things that I would, I would rather have a fucking testicle removed than go to the DMV. Low rider, no thanks. I'm a Texas girl. Love trucks. Oh, so you want a lifted truck, not a lower truck. All right.

I knew there was something about you. I have to head out to sample wastewater. Everybody's dropping deuces now. Someone works at the shit plant. I had a friend who works at the shit plant. I have a friend who works at the shit plant. I have a friend who works at the shit plant. Great job. I imagine it probably is.

Great job. 20 years at the shit plant and you can retire. Okay. All right. Okay. See you guys now in 10 minutes. Bye-bye.