The Sevan Podcast - #786 - Black History Month w/ Alex Caceres, Darian Weeks & Justin Nunley

Episode Date: February 4, 2023

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um bam we're live i wonder so you think soon i thought that too soon as we put abortion in the title like you can't name that's one of the rules about youtube you can't have the word abortion in the title i don't even think you could say like only fans and stuff because some of those clips that i watch in like the shorts that have hundreds of thousands of views and stuff they'll bleep all of that what if you go to youtube uh right now and you just type in the word abortion by the way nice to see you here this morning let's find out yes good to be here on friday normally doesn't work out like that but this today it does so i'm gonna go to uh are you typing it in i just went to i'm gonna just see if i can get i'm going to go to youtube and just type in abortion there's like pill experience story time abortion tablet for one month pregnancy

little wayne that's random on the front lines of the abortion war abortion pill that's from vice abortion pill debate pro-life activist mark hook on shocking details of plant parent uh oh yeah yeah very oh i wonder if you can get it with anti-abortion i wonder if youtube has the same guidelines i it's crazy that there's words um that'll trigger it yeah oh dude someone sent me something yesterday showing that. So, so my kids have an iPad and my wife erased YouTube and Safari off of it. And YouTube kids off it just has like the photo app. And so they can FaceTime their grandmother and grandfather.

That's cool. And then yesterday, maybe it was my sister sent me a, someone had signed their kids up for YouTube kids. And they put in the, I guess you can put in what age your kids are nine to 12. And the first videos that are recommended by YouTube is a like Henry and Henry. And it's like two boys holding hands or learning, learning what the letters of LGBT L L learning the letters of the gay alphabet. it's crazy it's crazy that YouTube those are the were the first two videos that YouTube it's like hey dude dude dear god hey what would it

take for some of you to pull your kids out of school what would it take I wonder what it would take like that's an interesting question like what's the tipping point? Like, when do you, when do you like, nope. You can't do it. And you say that people say you're trying your best and you don't got money. And yeah, you got to work a full-time job. I get all that. It's fucking crazy. I get it.

But what would it take? What would have to happen at your school where you just like, you bring your kid to Safeway with you? Let's say you're a checker at Safeway where you're like, hey, bring your kid to Safeway with you. Let's say you're a checker at Safeway where you're like, Hey, you now come to Safeway with me. Fuck it. He worked. Yeah. Go hang out in the employee lounge for eight hours and do your kuman. What a, what a crazy question. What a crazy story that would be. Hey, they showing my kids butt plugs and dildos at, at, at school. And so I had to bring them to,

look at Dan's. So I had to bring him to uh look at darren's so i had to bring him to safeway with me today yeah darren i was talking about like uh one of my um uh friends just signed their kid kid up for youtube plus and said that they're in the 9 to 12 range so that like it would be appropriate material and the first two videos that came up for the kid were like henry and henry and it's like two boys holding hands and then the other one was a video explaining to their 9 to 12 year old what lgbtq plus stands for and it's like come on dude they're fucking nine they're nine and twelve yeah and it's in and then there's like videos called colors of the rainbow and it's

just all about accepting gay people it's like dude That's what you get for living on the West Coast. No, it's YouTube. Well, yeah, that's true. Yeah, the algorithm changes. That's better than before. Before, they used to have that one guy who was making all the kid shows in the Spider-Man costume, and it was doing really weird innuendos and like sexual things that were like kind of subconscious you remember that that was a couple years back before i do remember that but i didn't know he got he got like uh elmo elmo elmo was a pedophile right yeah i got weird busted yes and the thing

was is that a lot of parents don't pay attention to what youtube's actually recommending so going back to that you're you're choosing giving it to. So you can go in the back and smoke some weed and drink some whiskey. Just give your kid YouTube. It's safe. And we talked about outsourcing their education before. You're outsourcing it right there to YouTube's algorithms. Because the second you hand your iPad or phone to the kid and you say, okay, you're on your own. Go for it.

Once that video ends, YouTube is recommending another one and another one and another one. And you have, unless you're paying attention, you're on your own, go for it. Once that video ends, YouTube is recommending another one and another one and another one and another one, and you have – unless you're paying attention, you don't have control over that. I'm telling you, and it goes quick too. They just throw anything on the screen, and the kids will press anything as well. Yep. Yeah.

Has a kid on it. Yep. Sevan, are you betting the house on Volkanovski? Dude, I would be so happy if Volkanovski won, but I think that Islam might tie him into a knot and throw him out of the ring WWE style. What do you think, Mr. Weeks?

I was Volkanovski as well. You're hoping he wins too? I'm thinking he will. Oh, you think he will? God, I hope you're right. Hey, if he wins, it's, oh yeah, we talked about this last time. I think it catapults him into like John Jones, Anderson Silva, GGSP status. Most definitely it does. It definitely does.

And also, I just think he's going to win just because, you know, that guy used to be two hundred and like thirty pounds at his. Yeah. Yeah. He used to be. So I think he's the only one that has the strength that will contend with Islam. I think he's just going to be as strong and be able to get up because he has said something like every time somebody takes him down, he always gets back up. You know, I mean, always. So, I mean, how much will Islam weigh when he walks in there? I heard he walks in it like I heard he walks around at 180 really yeah well that's not very heavy at all huh seems giant to me for if he's fighting at 155 yeah i guess so yeah but i mean think about when michael chandler walks back in there and michael chandler walks back in there at like 196 pounds he does yeah he's ginormous wow okay and they say when they see him when people see him in

real life like he's just like a huge ginormous hairy beast like he's just he waxes his chest that's what he has to do to get all his chest hair off because they said normally he's just covered in hair on his chest wow so he's um and that helps him lose another pound probably no boys on islam's side hey dude that's the easy pick i mean here's the good thing for volk he's And that helps him lose another pound. Probably. No poison Islam side. Hey, dude, that's the easy pick. I mean, here's the good thing for Volk. He's not supposed to win. He's the 145-pound champ.

Yeah. No, yeah, for sure. He's not supposed to win. But I think it would be a great upset, you know, and I'm hoping it happens. But no one's beat a Dagestanian yet. So we'll have to see, you know, that that's the, that's the name of the game right there.

They don't do anything but train. So, I mean, they don't, they don't do anything but, but train what's, but training. Oh,

damn. That's good. Right. That's what you call listening people. I didn't say it. Darian said all those Dagestanians do is, but train. And I don't say it. Darian said all those Dagestanis do is butt train. And I don't know what butt train is.

Well, who knows what they do on their side, but that's another, you know. Austin Hartman, I think my YouTube algorithm is broken. I keep getting recommendations for this show with an Armenian midget and a hippie. Fair enough. Wow, you got a… Am I the hippie? You got Suze as a hippie. That's cool.

Hippie with the beanie on. Could be called worse things. The hair's just out of hand. It's just like... Oh, yeah, I feel you. Actually, it kind of looks okay now. It looks decent, yeah. I need that comb. You got to go to the weekly cuts.

Oh, yeah, all the way down here in the Midwest. Could I beat Hasbulla go fuck yourself choke that fucking midget out fucking uh no but yeah i think uh what was the butt plug story though i didn't get i didn't get the full look oh just just that youtube it's just like just youtube is recommend if you so they have something called youtube kids no i i was they have something called youtube kids which is what you're supposed to sign your kids up for instead of youtube so that they don't get recommended fucked up shit and if you but recently someone showed me hey look i signed my kids up for YouTube kids. And the first two videos that come up are talking to them about gay

sex, gay relationships. And it's like, Holy shit. Like, and so then I was like, Hey, what would you have to do? What, what, what do you people need? A lot of people, um, uh, when I talk about homeschooling your kids up on here, people say like, they have all these reasons why they don't do it. Right. I work a full-time job. My husband works. We can barely make ends meet. I have three kids. I mean like valid reasons, right? Yeah. Like, fuck. Uh, but, um, Hey, I was, so I was like, Hey, what would you have to do to finally pull your kids out of school? Like if the teacher was like, Hey, I want to, it's okay to lick uh your your and i'm not trying to be crass i'm just telling the truth if the teacher started teaching um the boys in there it's okay to lick other boys assholes would you pull your son out

of the school and it's like what's your what i said that should be a hell yeah pull your son out of the school yeah right right and then let's say you're a checker at safeway or something then what do you do you just bring your kid with you and you're like hey just sit here and the manager's like hey why is your kid here and so well they were teaching him how to lick asshole today holding up yeah hey here's the thing you have to know this though and i speak on behalf of me and darian also we don't want the teachers teaching them that, but if you send your kids to school, definitely their friends are teaching them that.

So don't, don't forget that either. Like the shit we talk about, I don't know about girls. I didn't hang it. No girls would hang out with me, but, but boys,

like we talked about crazy shit at school. Crazy shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, we don't need teachers talking about crazy shit we

do it ourselves age as well you know what i mean i mean i don't know if i talked about that much crazy shit when i was nine but i mean no hey dude in the second grade you didn't go into the bathroom with your friends like five or six of you and just take turns saying bad words probably did that yeah i Probably did that, yeah. I definitely did that. It was crazy. It's like that game, I would say dick, and then someone says shit,

and next thing you know, someone's saying fuck, and it's just a circle. And then dudes are putting two words together, like shit, fuck, and you're like, dang. Better the swear circle than the other type of circle. Right. Definitely better the swear circle. I would definitely be a part of that more than the other type of circle so right definitely better i would definitely be a part of that more than more than the other circle and i bet you it takes a lot to get a parent to pull it out of school i was reading a book a while back about immigration and what it takes for

somebody to actually leave their family and home country behind and a lot of times it takes way more than you think it takes like the intimate threat of death like and even then it depends on how bad it is but unless there it is. But unless there's no reason for you to stay, meaning the economy is just complete trash, that people are being brutalized or hurt or killed within your time, it takes a lot for somebody to uproot and leave. And I bet you with the kids in the school, it would take a lot. Think about what's happened in our schools. And even a lot of that stuff doesn't warrant somebody to take it out. They just think, oh, it's an isolated incident.

It's just that one teacher. Once we remove them, it's just this or just that. And even if they realize it's the whole entire school board that's holding up that agenda, that narrative, and then propagating it through the classrooms, I just think people are too niched into that. They don't think there's another option. Really, there isn't, so I don't think they would leave. A couple times, there has been imminent death, the threat. That's right. They still will allow their child to go

to school. After that last one, I would have been like, yeah, never. That guy came down from wherever, down to San Antonio. Oh, yeah, yeah. No way. I'm never putting my kid in school again hey so listen i just typed in high school fentanyl death oh jesus and january 11 2023 um uh and i hate just so you know like i'm not i don't have fear of this stuff by the way like

if my kids went to school like i'm like i you're not afraid of fentanyl no no i'm afraid i'm not afraid of school shooting shooting at all yeah statistically zero it's not as big of a deal but the fentanyl thing i mean put it this way how many how many uh people do you know personally that have died of fentanyl that's either close or one person away right five exactly so if you ask that same question i don't know anyone who died from a school shooter no right right so statistically speaking you're gonna have way more um issue with the fentanyl than you would the school shootings yeah i mean fentanyl they're just putting it in anything and everything they

can touch nowadays dude it's crazy and people that aren't even aware of it like there is a story that i heard i work with some firefighters out here in hayward relatively close like san francisco and oakland and they were talking about how they rolled up on a buffalo wild wings this was months back and it was just a couple of three guys out there to watch the game one of them picked up a little bag he thought they bought a little cove they're just going to go out and recreationally use it not the type of people that you would ever assume as a drug dealers or i mean into drugs or anything like that and freaking two out of the three of them died on the spot because there was fentanyl in it and they weren't drug users so they snorted that and freaking two of them went down right in the bathroom one guy made it out to the front of

buffalo olives yeah these are these are crazy look at these kids these are dorks yeah but i'm saying fucking these aren't these. I mean, these are goofballs. He's got both straps of his backpack on. Yeah. Well, that's cool now. So it's not. No, it doesn't.

One strapper. Got to know, too, like not even like not even just something that you have to ingest. It is also a cream. Like even if you put a i mean the cream can just be on your arm and it will dry into your bloodstream yeah if kids whatever kids touch that they don't normally touch you know it's it's serious deal hey didn't a cop die like that darian like a cop pulled someone over and they touched they touched some dude's fentanyl and they died just right there on the spot. Had a reaction and died.

But, I mean, that's pot. It could happen. You know, and I will say, like, in my high school days, right at the edge of high school, right by senior year, everybody was partying at this house. And I did jump in and do some fentanyl. And I'll tell you what, it was the worst thing you could do, bro. You didn't like it.

It's an anesthetic is what it is. It's something that they put on you before surgery or something like that, you know, so that you no longer feel pain or you cannot move, you know what I'm saying, during the procedure. And we were doing these strips where, you know, you put them right underneath your tongue. And I'll tell you what, I was stone cold for literally an hour plus i mean like i mean just not being able to what year was that what year was that i had the 2012 before so you've taken a 10-year break from yourenton news. Yeah. You know, I was thinking about going back, but then, you know, Hey, someone in the comments wrote, um, darn it. Someone in the comments wrote for black history month. Uh,

there were some black kids at a school making the white kids carry their books around, but I can't, I wanted to find the article. That would have been, I can't find the article. That would have been. I can't find it. Darn it. Yeah. God, we live in a crazy world. Alex, what's up, dude?

How's it going? Can you hear me? Yeah, so good, dude. Okay. So good. The whole time I was like screaming and shit. I heard you say, ow, I thought maybe like you stepped on a mousetrap. No, my fucking cats and dogs are jumping all over me.

Alex, Darian, Darian, Alex. How's it going,ian bruce leroy what's up my man how you doing chilling chilling oh yeah hey dude your your interview with uh hawani was off the hook oh thank you did you like it uh i didn't get to see it hey well what you, the first few minutes, I just thought it was going to be another one of his regular interviews. I don't watch a lot of his interviews, just the guys who are going to come on the show. But, man, you, after a few minutes, you just took it out to the deep end. I was like, this is some fucking amazing shit.

It was so good. Well, you can't have a regular interview with me. I'm not going to let it happen. I mean, we're not going to talk fights and and just basic human-minded things blood and beer you know we're gonna get a little deeper than that you know i feel like that's that's a that's a big thing with the society too we we touch so much on the surface and we never really try to dig deeper into that we just see what's going on in the outside and say that's's what it is. That's the enemy. Let's attack that. And let's do it so fervorlessly that we forget about everything else.

Right. And there's layers to it. It's not black or white. I mean, there's a bunch of gray areas in between, and we have to really dig into those things to understand what is really going on in any situation or circumstance. You,

you opened well, I mean, it opened with a little bit of dance between you and ariel but then when you you started off this sort of this uh this talk by basically saying and i'm paraphrasing but i i read a lot of stuff like this and i'm i love metaphors and similes and analogies but you basically said that your life was like a rock that was being dropped, just unobstructed heading towards your fate. Like that's how clearly, I don't know if you see your life, but that's how you perceive your basic life that basically like, Hey, there's a beginning and an end. And my life is in a, it's just a rock dropping. So anything that

other people might see as obstacles, Hey dude, it's just fate, my fate. It actually is a smooth path. Yeah. And so, uh, yeah, to touch base on that thing, like, yeah, like that's how I feel it is. Even from a small child is like, I was headed towards a direction and I knew it. Um, even though my ego, my body and what encompasses this earth at the moment didn't really know it, but the person, the true self inside of me, deep within me knew that. And it just continuously went in that path and direction where most people, their minds will play these gymnastics on them. And rather than being like a rock in a pond, falling down to the bottom of the pond is their destination.

They float to the bottom and it takes them forever because they're acting like a leaf, you know, catching every single current. It's like, maybe I should do this, or maybe I should do this and maybe I should do this. And they just wisp away, constantly missing the point. It's like a finger, like Bruce Lee said it perfectly. It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Don't focus on the finger because you're going to miss out on all the heavenly glory. You know, if you're going towards space and go towards space, don't stop anywhere else. Don't focus on what you're doing because you're not really doing anything. You're just taking the part of something that's already happening. Um,

way to look at it. I like that. I like that way to look at it. I never thought about, you know, that objective, but, uh,

the strong, Alex, um, and, and you use, um, my words, not yours.

You use fear as kind of your true North. And it's interesting. I heard you say that in that video. And then right after YouTube suggested to me a Denzel Washington clip that was 10 minutes long, where he says, do something you're afraid of every single day. And I want to show you really quick before I let you go and tear into that thought. I want to show you this guy we had on our podcast. He's only one of five guys who has this job in the world and um his name is uh alex landa and this is and this is what he i don't know if you can see it but he's an urban climber there's

only five in the world he basically climbs skyscrapers uh sometimes barefoot yeah and uh guys and he said when i asked him i said uh why do you do that and he said because i'm afraid to die and the only place that i stopped thinking about my own death is when i'm climbing that building i'm like oh so he has to do that to himself to get so focused that he's not focused on his own death anymore oh yeah it's like wow alex got a little bit of that shit going on like he he fights to like to to face some sort of fear well i mean um yeah we we like that and that's the biggest misconception people have is like when you face your fears you never get rid of them you're just looking it at the face you know and then and then we just call it fear because we

don't we can't put a name on it well it's like he said where i'm afraid to die we're looking death in the face you know when you're looking death in the face like and you look long enough you see yourself there then you you stop being scared because now you're in the moment now you know who you're playing against and you know who you're playing against. And that adversary being death is at the end of the line. So you have all this time, you're going to get there anyway, but what can you do before that? Well, I'm going to fucking live, but I'm going to enjoy myself. You know, I'm going to be the best version of myself that I possibly can be. Um, uh, because we're not, we're not going to escape it. That's the joy. That's the beauty thing, beautiful thing about life that we're all

completely in it. And the fears will always be there facing them doesn't take them away they're always going to be there and i don't use it as fuel i don't use it as a motivation no it scares the shit out of me fear is fear know that about it but what i have to do is just face it just just be there in front of it and understand that i am my body my ego is feeling fear but my true self does not feel fear i'm observing it from that I am my body. My ego is feeling fear, but my true self does not feel fear. I'm observing it from the outside of my body, almost in a third person perspective, especially when I'm in fights. I'm like looking at myself from behind or from the side or top down view in a sense. And I know that's who I am and my body may be scared and everything like

that. But once they lock that cage, once I hear that clink of the lock go down into the cage, it's like I get kicked out. Like you ever seen, what is it, Dr. Strange? Yeah. You know, when that lady like pushes him out of his body, that's what it feels like. The minute I hear that clink, it's like, boom. And I'm like, okay, I'm no longer scared because whatever happens to this body is not happening to me. And no matter what happens, I am still going to be here. Whether I die, whether I live, whether I don't make it, whether I do make it, I will still remain here.

And it reminds me of an idiom, if you would allow me to say it. It was from a book called Dune. And every time there was something fearful going on, he would repeat this to himself. He's like, I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings upon us total obliteration. I must face my fears. I will turn an inner eye and see the path that fear has taken within me. And where fear has gone, nothing will be there. Only I will remain. And this is very

true. You know, fear is simply a thought. And when you take it all away, fear, joy, exuberance, excitement, anxiety, only you are there still standing with nothing. You are that nothing, which is everything. You are complete potential. lie to you the only time that i've really um experienced that there's two times one was sober and one was i was on acid and i was i was at the beach and um my friend and i were hanging out and me and him were on acid and the other guy wasn't on acid and i go hey dude um i turned to my friend who's on acid i go why is he tripping out when we're the ones on acid why is he fucking freaking out and he goes dude because he can't hear us talking and when my friend said that me and my buddy who were on acid were like 60 feet above the ground and looking at the two of our bodies and and the dude who was freaking out he wasn't on acid and i was like oh shit like we're not here

whatever's going on between me and this dude who's on acid the other dude has no fucking clue because i thought we were talking but we weren't talking yeah and that happened a lot yeah it was it was some crazy and so and then so i'm guessing it's something um i'm guessing that that's you you put your what do you remember the first time you experienced you experience that the sort of uh that you are not um alex casares yeah um uh i can't it happened when i was very very young trauma shit like really traumatic shit yeah like like like my first time getting into fights every time i got into a fight that's how it was it's like i was watching a character act out his role and And that's who we are. We're simply characters of the characteristic aspects of the supreme personality, which is the true self. And we are just simply and if we understand that or if we realize that we can take ourselves out of the physical body and observe this character play this play perfectly his role perfectly and we

allow it to happen when we try to control our roles is only when we meet adversity in such a way that it stunts our growth you know so we have to kind of allow ourselves to go through these trials and tribulations and accept them gracefully whether they're whether they make us sad and these emotions they're going to pass, all of it shall pass. So we have to accept it for what it is, because that's what paints the beautiful picture of the world. It's a harmony of so many different, a symphony, should I say, of so many different emotions and so many different experiences that in order to get the full picture, we have to experience misery in order to experience true joy. We have to

experience hate in order to experience true love. And we also have to feel these things ourselves for other people in order to have it reciprocated back to us. So it is a beautiful play. It's like a dance of lights going on all the time and we just have to embrace it. People have their favorite colors, but that doesn't mean that you dislike all the other colors because one is your favorite. Because without all the other colors, you wouldn't have the differentiation of what your color was. It would all be the same. So that's why like something similar. I know it's kind of off topic, but that's why I never hate my opponents. I never hate my opponents. I never talk shit about them. I can't get angry at them. Why? They allow me to

express myself in a way that in a normal day-to-day society, it would be looked at as carnalistic, vulgar, and evil almost. This guy has given me the acceptance to show me who I am through pain, through suffering, strife, tears, blood, joy, the agony of defeat, and the thrill of victory. All of that combined once together, this person is a brother to me. This person is a person that allows me to bleed with him. And this person is also a person that's not afraid to push me to my fucking limit. And that's a person that you can appreciate.

And there's a quote that explains that. Not everybody you fight with is your enemy and not everybody that helps you is your friend. Yeah, that's a good one. I don't look at it as that same perspective, but I'm in that same way where I never am upset at an opponent or angry at an opponent. I feel like those guys who sit there and get all tough, that's what they just wear their fear right there in front of them.

You know what I mean? Like they just put their fear on those. So their, their, their mind and their body's telling them, Oh, we have to react like we're angry or that we're tough so that they don't know that I'm scared. And that's them just afraid to feel their fear. But it's even, yeah, it's even deeper. They, they're telling themselves not to be scared. You know, so they put on that persona, like they don't even believe that they're scared but that's where you fuck up yeah that's where you fuck up because these are natural emotions that's like saying like that's like

saying like like you think when i fight i don't get angry i don't get frustrated a little bit i don't get scared of course i get all these emotions what i am doing though i'm not letting control me so yeah when i hit you i'm hitting you with a bit of anger and a bit of like, you know, like I got to that. It's, it's an expression of energy. It's not personal though. Same thing. If I'm scared, I am scared. And I will tell you I'm scared. And I feel like when you face your fear with honesty and people know that, what else can they do to you? What else can they do to you? Even if you tell them you're scared, but you still step there in front of them ready. And just with a smile on your face because what the opponents refuse to understand is that i'm not scared of you scared i'm scared of death and then when death smiles at me i can just only smile

back and then i embrace them completely and i step into that darkness with the light of god in me what what about people who experience this uh through like crazy trauma by trauma? I mean, like you got Kayla Harrison, right? She wrote that, you know, that is the female fighter. Yeah. Yeah. So, so she was on the show. She wrote a book about how she was molested by her judo coach from the age of eight to like 16. Right. Yeah. And so she would talk about going to this place, you know know when those things were happening and i don't know what that place is but those events were so traumatic that she didn't have that this out-of-body experience so much as she would just go to like a field of flowers right

and sort of sort of that we were like in yoga they explained it as being sort of something like loka sarga lokas like where the the beautiful place of paradise where you can take your mind to, especially in places of hardships. And it's like God does that for you so you don't hate the world in that sense. So you keep living. So you keep trying to strive for survival or thrival. Yeah. It sounds like it's a crazy survival mechanism. Yeah.

I've been there before. Um, cause I've also, which is like a lot of people don't know this. Um, and I've only not too long ago, like, like just a few years, like came out and he's speaking with this. But when I was like, like four years old, I was a lot, a lot of traumatic things happened to me. Um, when I was under four years old, I had to sit there in front of my driving garage or driving lot to the house and watch my mom get beat up by two guys and robbed at gunpoint for her car and everything. At four? At less than four, and I was helpless. And I was looking at the cells, crying the whole time.

I couldn't do anything. It was one of the major reasons why I wanted to be tougher and wanted to be strong and be a fighter, because I couldn't allow people that I loved to go through such a thing like that. Hey, what happened? Sorry to fall into the weeds, but did they know her? No, just randos, just random dudes, just they might have known my father because at the time my father was a drug dealer and was in jail at the time because he got caught and all his enemies started to come and rob us. So it must have been then. And then a few, like I would say, and he was in jail for a few months later. I remember like people were coming into my house for like two days in a row while we were sleeping and they were taking stuff, you know, and I could hear them and everything. And my mom was like into it. Do you have siblings, Alex? Did you have siblings? Yeah. I had a brother, I have a brother and a sister, my brother and me and my

brother slept in the same room. Is he, are they older or younger? My brother's older and my sister's younger. Okay. And then one of those nights, the guy came in, like he came into the room actually. And I remember him being a big figure, you know, I was very small at the time. And he was taking my, like my, one of my game stations. I forgot it was Nintendo or something like that. And I'm like, Hey, that's my, I woke up in the middle. I'm like, Hey, that's mine. And then he grabbed me and took me into the closet and like molested me, like forced me

to touch him and touch me in the closet and like molested me, like forced me to touch him and touch me in different places and shit. And, um, I shut myself off when that happened. I shut myself off. I was completely not there. Um, almost to a point where it's hard for me to remember it, uh, other than just like a shadow or just like, sometimes I'll have dreams about it, where it's just a feeling of being groped in that sense you know and being um controlled where i can't even though i'm right now i'm like i'm strong man and i find a ufc but when i have these dreams i can't do shit about it i'm completely helpless you still have those dreams sometimes yeah it's almost like a feeling of claustrophobia did you ever tell anyone that

story yes it happens yeah not not immediately after it happened like The first time I told that story, I was like, and this is what I'm saying, how something bad like that can haunt you. I was like 25. Hey, does part of you not want to share the story because you think you derive power from it? No, not at all.

Nothing like that. To me, it was just, I don't derive power from any of the experiences that happened to me i know that the power is always there and it's always on that i can just choose to be it or not be it like today um i didn't need any coffee or any traumatic experience to get me moving you know it was just a thought process like i make the right choices every day and then i'm going to keep doing it it's more than a motivation it's a discipline when i even don't when i don't want to do it i have to get up and fucking do it and that and I make the right choices every day and then I'm going to keep doing it. It's more than a motivation. It's a discipline.

Even though when I don't want to do it, I have to get up and fucking do it. And then I realized, oh, I did want to do this. But it's crazy. It's crazy. And that ended up getting me into a lot more fights, I would have to say, when I went to school. now I was fighting off a stigma of being, um, uh, how would you say not so solidly founded in my sexuality at the time, you know, we're like, and I would take offense to homophobic slurs even more because something did actually happen to me. Right. And not only that, um, I was also confused about women because when I was younger, um, one one of our babysitters which was our next door neighbor used to molest us as well me and my brother like tongue kisses down the throat and shit like that like some weird fucking shit and

i was like five or six like i like i did not understand what was going on no how the fuck could you how old were you was that a boy or a girl that that baby it was a girl it was a girl so like my my i was confused for my sexuality for a very long time even throughout middle school i was like asexual like i wasn't attracted to anything i was afraid of males and females i was just like fuck leave me alone you know what i mean like yeah and that and that's a shitload of energy to not have a place to put yeah yeah so um i i developed a lot of like what i call crazy anxiety like just a lot of fucking energy just i needed to pour somewhere so i poured into books i poured into um man i would be i would sit outside and i would just literally pick up like sand or dirt

and just look at all the tiny grains that made up black dirt and it was all different colors like that i would lose my mind in that like Like I needed something like I would grind my teeth. That's how frustrated I was when I was growing up. And I would grind my teeth in the night without knowing it. Like it was just my dad would have to wake me up. Hey, hey, hey, stop doing that. You know, like it was fucking crazy. And a lot of a lot of shit that was going on that I will realize now, like my father, like, like he was drug dealer, man. He was a fucking gangster, man. Like he had cocaine all over the counter i thought it was talcum powder i was a kid i didn't know he used to take me on fucking shakedowns that he used to go like shake down

people for money with like guns in their hands like putting shotguns in people's faces like and like to me like the way he was talking he was like hey we're gonna play a little joke with my friend here and it looked like they were just having fun but i'm realizing like holy fuck i was in some shit you know like i was in some shit hey we were just talking about taking your kids to work it was that is a yeah that's a that's a traumatic uh past that you got there i never experienced anything close to close to that um it was more of trauma going on around me rather than to me you know what i mean where i grew up i grew up in memphis tennessee and you know it was memphis is just a bad place to be

um and kind of like you said yeah like when i was a younger age too you know there were some guys you know they were they were actually friends of my mom but they were you know being quite aggressive at the time and when you're a child you don't understand play from seriousness you know what i mean and then you know they were just um you know i would say they were taking it too far but you know it's from a kid's perspective from my point of view right now and that's what made me also be the same thing you know like i'm making sure you know nothing you want to be that person and nothing ever happens like that in your life again yeah that point where you can't do anything is like the most useless thing ever you know what i'm saying that's why i teach kids nowadays like it's boxing because i'm like if anything happens to you if

anything happens to your family whatever i want you to be able to boom boom you know get in the situation you know what i mean yeah like don't get dragged into the night silently go out kicking and screaming tooth and nail you know like it's it's real that's i teach kids class too and it's my favorite thing to do and eventually when i do start making the income that i need for the gym from all the other clients i'm gonna have kids class for free like i don't think i should charge children because that's one of the biggest things that i wanted to do when i was a kid but never had the money to never had the experience or understanding on how to start it i was watching bruce lee um since i was like six years old and like and that was after like all these things happened i'm like bro i gotta be strong and i was growing up in an all-black

neighborhood pretty much um i was i grew up uh from like six to no i would go from like from when i was born all the way to like nine years old eight or nine in west little river around like uh born all the way to like nine years old, eight or nine in West little river around like, uh, well, I guess where you will say like Overtown is or Liberty city. What city? What's the big city by there?

Overtown or Liberty city. What state? Uh, Miami. Oh, yeah. And then it's like, like having a light skin brother was very difficult growing up there too,

because I was fighting every day just for that motherfucker. Not, and not including the fights that I got into just for my shit you know like like you weren't dark enough you need to be you need to be roughed up for that like yeah people don't understand that kind of shit and i'm because that's that's that's a fucking thing that's why i hate and and please hear me out on this this is why i hate black history month this is why i hate you this is why i hate um um a lot of african americans that claim that they want to be together but all of all they

fucking do is pull you back down to the barrel like fish like like crab in a bucket they don't they don't they don't care about you doing good they don't they don't care about you doing bad or good they don't want to see you do better than them they get they take it as a personal attack and if we're ever going to change because yes i am I am an Afro-Caribbean, but I identify- You look like an Afro-Caribbean too. Yeah. But I identify very much so as an African-American because that's how I am looked at, treated and ostracized in this country. There is no separation in other people's minds that are bigoted and racist. So to me, I would like to see especially Afro-Caribbeans, Afro-Americans or any minority group really, hey, let's look at the real fucking problem. Because honestly, everybody wants to say that and claim.

And I can see where you can say that back in the day and every time. Yes, shit happened and it's got to change. Still, shit's got to change. But we're no longer victims of circumstance. Now we're being victims of our own bullshit. We're buying into the bullshit that they're feeding us and then we're blaming them because we bought it. Well, you made it so easy to buy. Well, don't fucking buy it this time.

You know what I'm saying? Like do it for yourself. A lot of people refuse to do the work for themselves. And I have a lot of people that need to go to the gym. I'm like, and they want to be fighters and shit, but they don't want to show up. I have the same exact problem. You don't want to put the effort in, but you want to, you want to have something that you never had before, but you don't want to do something that you've never done before.

And when you don't get the results, you bitch and complain because you put in half the work than everybody else did. Well, you got to, the people got to see that. And same thing with fucking black people. And that's why I fucking hate black history month we didn't make black history month we didn't make it as black people i'm sorry we didn't fucking make it we didn't give ourselves the shortest fucking month of the of the year one and secondly why am i celebrating a history of a people that is not history yet we're still here and then not only

that every everything everything that the activists the black activists were fighting for and i'm sorry excuse my language for today but niggas ain't doing shit that the activist has fought for and if martin luther king malcolm x or huey came back and saw niggas acting the way they was acting today they will be fucking ashamed so he would be ashamed that's for sure especially especially correctly especially with the rate of freedom that we have compared to the day that they had we have information yeah it's on your fucking hand literally the entire world's information the truth is there there's a bunch of lies but you have a cognitive mind to sit through the bullshit

and understand what is truly true for you and everybody in your community and we want to say stuff like oh it takes a tribe to raise a family but shit i bet you most motherfuckers and black neighborhoods don't know their fucking neighbor because they're paranoid as shit i'm alive or they're fighting with them exactly but it takes a tribe right it's like oh we got to stick together it is great oh black lives matter black lives matter only when some shit happens but then again it don't matter when you do it to each other yeah only when some shit happens only when a white person's or when a white person's fucking sitting here inflicting his now it's like oh black lives matter but you don't you don't feel that same way from day to day when you're causing fights with the dude down the street or you can't stand somebody else because they're not a real nigga to you you know what i'm saying and just or or like me like the way that i speak it's

like it's like oh you sound like a white guy when you speak it's like no i just choose to speak educated so you're going to tell me martin luther king malcolm x and all these other people spoke like white people no they spoke educatedly because they didn't want to um associate speaking unintelligently with being black. That's what happens when you say, oh, he speaks like a white guy. So you're associating only intelligent people can speak like white people and vice versa. So that's where it

makes me mad with all this Black History Month bullshit and this whole thing that everybody thinks that we want to say we're doing it together, but we're really not. And if we were, then we would support each other's businesses. But you'll see black people try and swindle down the prices of their friend's business, but will go to Gucci

and pay full fucking price for it. Full fucking price. I have that same problem, bro. And I own a business. I own a barbershop. You know what I'm saying? And I can't tell you how many Let me get the homeboy price. Literally. How many other people come in and they'll pay me twice

the price of haircut but oh freaking black dude come to me like bro you know can i get a deal for me and my son you know maybe make it like ten dollars like what like work for work for seven dollars and fifty cents instead of fifteen dollars you know what i'm saying like what it's crazy hey let's let's say let's say here's the thing here's a piece to add to this too alex let's say everything is true all the activists are saying let's say it's all fucking true let's say fucking half the america wakes up every white guy in america wakes up every morning they're like okay today i'm gonna kill a black guy let's say that's true let although i don't think one person does that not even the most evil but let's say that's true let i although i don't think one person does that not even the most evil but let's say everyone does the exit is still the same the exit is still and the exit is each person is

going to have to pull themselves up from their bootstraps and do the work no one no amount of activism no amount of taking money from warren buffett or elon musk or rich people is ever going to make us better we're going to be the same pieces of shit until we do it individually ourselves and i don't know why i'm preaching to you two guys you guys fucking get in the ring and fight people but yeah the the story doesn't matter because the exit is still the same yeah really and that's kind of back to your rock thing again don't be distracted by like some guy over there hating you because you're black or some girl not liking you because you got a big nose or like someone saying like hey that you still have don't be distracted by that still get to your destination and that that that exactly i think i said this on the last one it was like the person that wastes the most time climbing the mountain is the person running around the mountain saying you're climbing up the

wrong path yeah right you know the view is still the same from the top so and and i totally agree like it like the activism is only to bring awareness to a situation but it doesn't do anything for the situation no you know in fact in this case i think it's made it worse i think the last two years of activism has just has just made it worse well like to to be quite honest i feel like the last few years of all this activism has been implemented by the powers that be. I think these are planned activism events. I think they're trying to create diversity. They're trying to create separation between people.

That's what they're trying to do. You know, like, I don't, like this whole, like, because they found, like, people, like Ant don't like this whole like because they found like people like antifa for instance fighting for black lives matter but they're white people going to black neighborhoods breaking shit up and all this shit and making it look like black people don't know how to riot or don't know how to protest period you know and that's like holy fuck so like i i feel like there's there's a bigger power at play to constantly create a separation amongst people so that it's easier to control us as individuals versus controlling us as a community. If we all got together and we all started growing our own food because it only takes two houses in a 14 block radius to grow food for everybody.

So imagine if more people did that. You know what I'm saying? You eliminate grocery stores. If everybody had their own chickens and hoops you eliminate the the egg um companies i got chicken companies and these are titan chickens a big motherfucking company you got chickens darian yeah boy i got like eight chickens two ducks uh i got a full garden in the summertime uh in the winter it's not too too good right now but i got a fat garden but i need i need chickens my wife wasn't letting me have chickens but now i think she's going to now that i told her that the chinese are putting the vaccine in the chicken eggs i don't know if it's

true but i just told her that and she's like get some chickens get get the chickens it's it's it's uh and i even love them just to have you know uh farm animals like that around just chickens they eliminate about like 40% of your food waste. Yeah, literally. Like anything that I don't eat, I can get to the chickens. Chickens eat anything

that has citrus fruit. And everything else, chickens will devour down. They just need protein and anything and all fruits and vegetables. We can eliminate like literally like I think more than

40% of the landfills in America. If everybody started like having their own chickens in their backyard, you have chickens, Alex. No, I don't have chickens. Um, if I have land, I would eventually have chickens. I won't eat them. I'm a vegan, but, um, um, I, I would like have farm animals on my, on my land as well, because I think, um, like they said before, it's an, it's an ecosystem. It's not an ego system. So we have to learn how to live amongst animals. I believe that God gave us dominion over animals, not to eat them and kill them. He gave us dominion over animals so that he can help us and we can help them tame this land as he told us to. He told us to use these animals to tame the land. So the

ox and the horses were used to pull trolleys across the land to till the earth. The chickens were used to eliminate waste. But we were meant to work with each other in an ecosystem together and not in harmony. And if we did need to eat meat, it was out of necessity and survival and not out of pleasure, which we do it now, which is why we overdo it, which is why the number of wild animals have dropped down to 2% from 98%, and the domesticated animals went up to 98% from 2% in the matter of 75 years, and it's killing the planet. Wow. Thanks. I want to shift subjects here real quick. Sorry, we can come back to this too, by the way. real quick sorry we come back to this too by the way in in that julian rosa fight the commentator says could you pull up that knockout uh suza the commentator says that you threw that punch on purpose to set up to set up that kick is that true no oh oh no it's sorry it's not on his instagram you're gonna have to type it into uh into uh youtube sorry if you just type in alex caseras matt it's the first thing that pops up

it'll be like julian rose and knockout i just want to show guys it is truly uh something uh amazing i'm glad you asked that because i do want to break that down okay good let's do it good let's do it for those of you who don't know alex casares is a very special man i mean you know this already by just listening to him speak but um he has been in the ufc forever i want to say since 2011 2010 was the ultimate fighter right was it or was it 2012 or 2010 i think it's a long time he's got to be one in the top 10 of uh um long longest fighters in the ufc but here's what's really weird he's now on a six of seven uh fight uh win streak which is really weird for a guy at the end of his career uh to be uh well flowering the way i'm not at the end of my

career sorry sorry sorry a guy that's sorry i apologize for a guy that's been doing this and been in the game so long uh to to be long to be – he's like a sunflower. It's like the last flower to bloom in summertime. They grow a big, thick stalk, and then they have a beautiful flower. Okay, here we go. Julian Rosa is the guy with his back to us, and there is Alex Caceres. This is a couple months ago, and not only that, but I didn't realize this until yesterday. You have another fight lined up for March 25th.

Nuts. Nuts. Okay, we can't ever play more than seven seconds of this without getting in trouble, so he might pause it now and again. Okay, so there's the punch. You want to walk us through it? Okay, so. You can use the keyboard, by the way, Sousa,

to pull it. The keyboard will always take it back 10 seconds the l on the keyboard or the j the j all right so right there when i threw that punch right i i saw him drop his hand and i'm trying to hit him i was literally trying to hit him with the punch so i threw it big um to try and hit him a punch. When I was overextended, I saw, like, holy shit, I missed, and I'm kind of in range. So, like, let me throw this kick up to kind of create space, you know, and it kind of flowed into it.

I didn't even think about it. So it was a defensive kick? It was like, hey, I'm going to throw this kick to keep him away from me because I'm exposed, and then the defensive kick turned into the knockout well i i don't want to call it a defensive kick i don't want to call it because like i wasn't thinking those thoughts at the moment it was honestly like like it was like shadow boxing like i can't fucking tell you that like i was thinking of this or that i threw the punch i realized i missed so when i miss i'm like well let me throw the kick since he's a little bit out of range let me see if i could touch him with this and it was but i

wasn't even thinking that at the moment either i just i noticed it i just kept going it was a flowing state it wasn't something i was thinking about or trying to do it was just like the best way i can explain it it was like shadow boxing yeah hey is that is that a hard kick like is that like only 30 of your power but it's just a perfectly placed kick or is that it's not all of his power no no um i put a it was a it was a snap in that kick yeah it was a pretty good snap in that kick it was i would say like if um no i put i landed hard i would say it it was it's close to being hard like like if you slow it down and you look at the kick when it like before it lands as it lands i completely like

my leg is still bent i completely extend my leg on his face oh look at that suza that's sophisticated shit you use the slow-mo on youtube see right there bam see my leg extends right on his neck like right under his chin okay that's when it really lands so i felt it like usually like i'll get like in sparring and in other fights when i knock people down it felt like i never touched them like it felt like super light like i didn't really hit them that hard but this one i felt me connect i felt me dig in i felt my shin go right into his into his like right under his chin right there and like i'm like oh fuck that hurt like i like i know that because i felt the the immediate bruise on my foot and everything. So I landed pretty stiff.

And I think it seemed soft, but since I was overcommitted onto one end, I carried all my weight to that side. Hey, how stoked are you that it's over in a minute, like in three minutes in the first round? Is that like, oh, good, I get to go home and hang out now? I honestly couldn't believe it. I honestly, like, I didn't believe it um i honestly like i didn't think it was over i was still trying to come to terms with it i was like holy shit um um okay he's

down he's down i'm like are they gonna stand him up are we gonna fight again like i'm like i was still like like in it you know like but uh your body's still in fight mode yeah it doesn't just turn off just because the guy's down and the craziest thing is that like yeah since it happened that fast usually even in fights i don't get damaged and i'm walking out sore as hell from the adrenaline jump and everything like i like i was ready to go again like i was kind of like saddened afterwards i'm like holy fuck i didn't i didn't fight you know like i wanted to fight but um other than that i was it was enjoyable because I was glad that I was uninjured. I made a lot of money and I was able to fight again eventually and keep doing what I love. But I felt like it was definitely a big turning point because I thought I would be more excited.

I thought I would be more celebratory after such a win like that. But it wasn't. I didn't feel good because I knocked the guy out. I didn't feel good because I won. I just felt good because I was able to do it. And I was there. And that, I don't know, it was such a loose feeling. I can't even tell you like whether I was happy because I won or I wasn't necessarily, I was just being at the moment. It was just, it was a beautiful thing. It's like a peacefulness. a peacefulness it's like you're not trying to just go for pleasure and you're not basking in some type of negative emotion either you're just being and it was just the moment was perfect there it felt like like and as the way the usc does it you're in the middle of the cage you're in the spotlight the people are interviewing all the lights are on you it just felt like you i was supposed to be there like it wasn't something that happened as a fluke or was a mistake or like oh wow i can't

believe it happened it was just it already happened and i just took place yeah can you bring up his uh his sure dog his his uh uh mr souza can you bring up his his his whole career so it looks like basically since the day you stepped into the ring you you have two fights every year. And the, and the, the years that you have one fight are followed by years that you have three fights. So you're just on this pretty steady, right? Pace,

uh, two fights, two fights, one fight, three fight, two fights, two fights. Is that,

um, is that just on accident? Is that just, there's someone at the UFC who's like, Hey, that's, we need to just give this guy two fights every year. How does that work?

Man, I don't know, man. Honestly, I would prefer to fight more. Like I'm always I'm always calling and asking for fights. I'm always like, hey, give me another fight. Hey, give me another fight. Hey, give me another fight. And like, oh, well, we can't match you up. And now that's becoming harder since I'm in the top 15.

They can't just match me up against anybody. So they have to like. So, yeah, it's a big and and 145 is the biggest division in the ufc so it just takes a while for me to get fights and uh make it smaller scroll down um i wanted to look at his uh just look at this and so even even the fight you that fight you lost uh against uh sudek uh that's went all, that went all three rounds. Yeah. Like that's, that's, that's poor judgment. I honestly believe. And I think that's just the way that the media wants to market certain people because there wasn't even a picture in, in that fight in the UFC that they took. And it shows Sudeik like trying to lift me up and slam me,

but the angle that they took it at, it looks like he dumped me on my head, but he never got my feet off the ground. Right. Like I still had one foot on the ground solid and he and i remember that he picked me up and i landed right back on my feet and then but the picture they took they took it from above and it made it look like he's dumping me on my head and then he won literally from foot stumps he landed like maybe like a good like maybe 10 leg kicks that were solid they took me off of balance but they never knocked me down i landed more body shots more head strikes i had more takedown attempts successful ones too and then he just stomped me on my foot when he had me up against the cage like 20 times and that added up to like

40 leg kicks because they consider those leg kicks oh shit oh just so like i don't know where the fuck they they got him winning i broke his fucking orbital and everything like the guy didn't want to fight me and you see you see how he fights everybody else he walks him down beats the shit out of him but with me he was backpedaling the whole fucking time i touched you broke his orbital yeah oh that sucks for him wow he's a savage but like but it's but it's just like i don't but yeah so i like whatever they can say that on my record but but I know that I'm winning. I know I have not been beaten. I have not backed down. And they're not going to do it to me anytime soon. They're not going to do it to me now. I feel that i know that what i have and that i am good that i have a pace that people can't match that i'm too that i move too quickly that i'll make people look silly if you try to hit me with a combination of punches i will i will matrix your ass and i don't mean it in any bad way but i'm just i just know how fucking good i am and i want to express it

and i want to express it there's no shortness of that no i'm gonna do a little side question um as a vegetarian man what do you eat for protein uh everything man everything dude and i everything has protein um every single thing has protein and that's a beautiful thing i love that question because i love breaking this thing down for a lot of people so we think that protein comes from animals but the animals they the biggest and the strongest animals eat plants to get their protein yeah if we get it from animals we're getting like a a second great protein a protein that's already been used you know and then the thing and when we get too much bioavailable nutrients when it's too bioavailable we don't use our body's mechanisms to synthesize those nutrients ourselves so for instance when when it comes to protein our body's mechanisms to synthesize those nutrients ourselves. So for instance, when it

comes to protein, our body is able to break down chains of amino acids into their single strands of amino acids and recombine them into the change that we need for certain functions in our body. But if we just get protein from animals, which is already combined together and it's already bioavailable, we just absorb them. So it's like we're working with a crutch. You know, especially when we overdo it, like we do it three meals a day, we eat meat three meals a day or animal products three meals a day and every day of our lives. So now our body loses the ability to synthesize our own natural proteins. that loses the ability to synthesize our own natural proteins. So if I would get like certain amino acids from fruits and certain from vegetables and certain from grains, my body would recombine them into the actual amino acid chains that I need for whatever function that I need at the moment.

But if I don't, then I'm only getting a certain kind of protein for a certain kind of function and it's already bioavailable. So I just absorb it. So my body loses that ability. Same thing when it comes to cholesterol. Don't you know, your liver produces its own cholesterol and the cholesterol that your liver produces smooths out your artery line. So it makes the blood flow and circulation of oxygen easier throughout the body. But when you take cholesterol from another animal and only from another animal, does that cholesterol stick to your body? And then you know what else happens? your body stops reducing cholesterol in its liver because it's getting it from an outside source so now your body's on a crutch it's like i don't need to make it no more because i have something else making it for me right it's the same thing versus the best analogy

i like to use is working out on machines versus free weights yeah you don't build stabilizer muscles on machines so so so uh another question so what do you what do you walk around at fighting at 145 i walk around close um the heaviest i'll get and that's like on good days on good heavy days it'll be 160 okay so oh so you never get giant no normally um like when it's fight day like i'm already like 156 155 and then i'm just cutting like literally five pounds i don't do nothing man yeah i eat all day oh yeah what um well how long you've been how long and i said vegetarian but you said vegan how long have you been a vegan like you've been a vegan the whole your whole career or you started pretty much pretty much um since i was since i moved to 135 i've been vegan and that was uh for about like almost 10 to 11 years now yeah jeremy garcia says that's why i do meatless mondays it's good and and if we're going to eat like and if people say oh we're

gonna eat like our ancestors then i'm all for it don't get me like if if if i knew where everything came from i probably won't be vegan you know what i'm saying but the thing is like we don't live like hunters as people want to claim they live like hunters we don't go kill stuff yeah we don't go kill stuff and then and then only that you gotta think about it even the best hunter back in the day one needed a group of motherfuckers to hunt the animal yeah and two two they had a whole tribe to feed with that one animal you had to track it for about like a week or so or more depending on what animal you're tracking yeah right and then when you do kill it and bring it back you got to divide the meat up amongst the whole tribe so the portions that

you're eating are significantly smaller and the portions that you're eating are significantly smaller and the frequency that you're eating it is for significantly less so if you want to look like a hunter then you're only taking what you need the people that we eat like nowadays the way they eat like it's like scavengers because we're eating things that are already dead yeah and then we're eating in crazy amounts because we don't know when the next dead thing we're going to come across you know and then when you eat when you promote a life of death then that's all you're going to have is death in your body which is why people that eat such an american diet over the years by the time they're 60 and we think that's old they're fat sick and

nearly dead yeah you know and it's crazy it's fucking crazy that we think that this is what health is but and and if we want to and we can even bring it back to religion and i'm not talking about new testament i'm talking about old testament shit i'm talking about veda i'm talking about like the oldest religion um um scriptures you can read and god even said it like don't fucking kill anything don't spill the lifeblood of anything that i give life blood to every seed bearing fruit every hard seed bearing fruit and every leafy green on this that i put on this earth this shall be flesh for you he uses the word flesh for you why he didn't say food he uses that word because he doesn't want you to eat real flesh. So he has eat this instead of flesh.

And then there's a whole, I got to look it up. I forgot where I put it, but there's a whole list of diseases that will come. If you continuously eat meat, he says, your bones will turn to chalk, which people that eat lots of red meat and dairy have osteoporosis. Yeah. You know, your ears will become a waxy issue. Your skin will turn to boils. And it's something like shame on a man who seeks to add flesh on his body by eating more flesh. Like crazy shit, like so many different quotes pertaining to that. And then the New Testament comes along after the Romans killed a whole bunch of fucking Christians in the fucking Colosseum to say, we got to integrate their religions with us somehow, because there's too many Christianity is growing in popularity,

the real Christianity. And so what they do put all their pagan bullshit behind and say, yeah, we can eat meat. We can fuck around. If we want to, we can do all this other shit. As long as we say, I accept Jesus to my heart and I'm forgiven bullshit. No life is disciplined. Jesus was disciplined. God was disciplined. He never gave too much leeway. That's why he was a very vengeful and angry god and that's why we're we're supposed to be fearing the motherfucker you know i'm saying he came and made us fear him you know when he says shit wasn't going wrong what'd he do wipe the entire earth clean clean yeah so if you want to take it to a religious standpoint even god said it bro but if you want to look at the science the science there is no refuting it.

Are you a Christian? Are you a Christian, Alex? No, no, I'm a I hate saying I'm a spiritual person, but I would say I'm a religious person. But I don't believe in God as being a singular thing. You know, I believe he expresses himself in so many ways so that so many people can understand him. He is omnipotent. There is no way that we can see him in one light. So he is the Christian God. He is the Hindu God. He is the Muslim God. He is only one, but one God promoting himself in many different aspects of his personality so

that we may understand him at together. Okay. Okay. So, so you appreciate the, you're not a Christian, but you appreciate that version of the word of God. You know it. Yeah, I appreciate when God speaks. Because every time when God speaks in any religion, he speaks straightforward with no room for interpretation. I hate organized religion because always the priest and the preacher say, well, I think God said, and I think he meant this by what he said. No, there was no thinking. There was no thought that man could provide God to elaborate on his idea because he is omniscient. He is omnipotent. He can, he is infallible. So

whatever he says cannot be interpreted by man. It has to be accepted only. 100%. That is a hundred percent. And it just, it just, it just baffles me that, you know, that people like Joel Alstein can say stuff like well I think he says and I think he means well there's no fucking room for thinking he said what he said he meant what he said like that Dr. Seuss book I said what I meant and I meant what I said

it's exactly what God is doing when he says thou shalt not kill he's like oh um accept the people accept the Jews no don't kill nobody oh except the black people no don't kill nobody says thou shall not fucking kill thou shall not steal well unless they have more than no it doesn't fucking matter and that's and this is the gray area that we put it's like that we put on black and white regulations you know like if we want to put

like if they're black and white regulations then there are some core issues that we have to face as a humanity within ourselves every baby born knows that if you put a rabbit and an apple in a crib the baby knows what to play with and what to eat we are intrinsically designed already knowing what good and evil is so you'll never see a fucking baby and i guarantee you never see a baby like just tear the rabbit apart and eat it up and start playing with the apple like it's a game no it automatically knows what food is and it automatically knows what a friend is you know you know what the trip is we've had people on this show who are just complete fucking vegans who had stage four cancer and they

cured themselves of it. And then, and they're the most beautiful skin and beautiful eyes. They look like you. And then, and then we've also had like the, the fucking dude who only eats one steak a day and he's the most buff, beautiful man you've ever seen.

And that's all he eats every day at six o'clock. He eats one steak. He just eats meat and water. It's, it's so interesting. I mean, definitely. I think the big takeaway is is over consumption yeah and all of these people don't eat processed food

yeah and do you not eat anything processed do you avoid processed food like the plague do you eat any of that fake meat stuff no as much as i can i avoid it but um there are times where like i do have cheat meals and like i do like eat like junk food and stuff. Like it and my take on that is that a pond too clear bears no fish. So we got to live a little bit. We got to experience the joys of life and all the sorrows of life as well. And to the people when like you said, like I eat one steak a day. But like, OK, then like he's probably eating more like an actual hunter. He's eating a lot less.

He's not overeating and anything like that. So there's more respect going into what he's putting into his body and for his body itself, because he's not just doing it for pleasure. And food, yeah, we shouldn't be doing basic necessity things for living for pleasure. That's my hardest thing. I'll tell you what, I eat solely for pleasure. My intake is, I mean, my everyday intake is solely for just pleasure. And, you know, and I, and I, I mean, I work out hard, you know, just like anybody else who fights and stuff. I work out two, three times a day, but I mean, hearing what you're saying, I can feel like

it would happen. Step by step, step by step, you know know like we always try to clean it up but like then again there's a lot of people that do what you do most people do what you do but don't work out two three times a day yeah yeah exactly you know so like you're balancing out with some with some other things so like the guy that's eating meat okay yeah if he only eats one steak a day in water then he's eliminating all the sugar processed foods so like even though he might is not the best of fuel for your body, which is perfectly fine, but everything else he's doing is positive. So it outweighs the bad, you know, it only becomes a shitty deal when you're taking prescription drugs, eating like a scavenger, you know, not exercising and living promiscuously, you know, you just, just, just pleasing yourself in all forms of ways, just a pleasure trap in that sense. You know, you just, just, just pleasing yourself in all forms of ways, just a pleasure trap in that sense.

So, um, there, there, there are ways of living that are different. And what, but the thing is, is like, when we look at the science and the only reason we're like, I'm saying this is because I've been like, I'm Cuban Dominican, man. And we were every day eating skirt steaks and like cooking, like, bro, I was barbecuing at the at the like it was up and up until i was 23 or something so it was a big part of her fucking life and i can tell you a hundred percent i don't miss it one bit and when i changed i've never felt the way that i felt ever in my life i gained weight i got stronger i got smarter i got faster um everything just became elated to me and and so i there is something to it and not only that the science when we look at our bodies we just like our organs they just look like the organs of a herbivore or a frugivore so it's like why are we going to tax our body by eating something that's

going to you know if it's not for survival especially you're like oh well our ancestors well they're the ancestors that lived up north know, that lived up in the cold places where vegetation wasn't very easy to find. You have to eat meat like the Inuits in Alaska. They have to eat fat and blubber because it's too fucking cold out there. Right. You can't survive if you don't, because you're not going to grow potatoes and spinach, you know, in the six months of darkness you got up there. It's not going to happen you don't drink coffee Alex? barely, now I don't drink

too much every once in a while but I drink every once in a while you don't wake up every morning and just have a cup? no, no, sometimes it's tea and sometimes it's nothing but I mean how about caffeine? caffeine, no look at Justin why the hell did I not send you a link this morning?

Justin used to be on the show with us. Justin did. He was our guy. He was our guy. Justin Nunley says he'll give you some vitamin D. Disgusting. Disgusting, Justin. When I wake up in the morning, I usually wake up with a run.

That's how I wake myself up. What a beast. I'll do like maybe two to five, 2.5 or three miles. And that's usually gets me into that little runner's high. And then I can come home and get everything started. Like today. Once I got up, I walked the dogs. I went out for a good three mile jog and came back. And then that's when I went to publish real quick. And that's why I was going to be late because I had to get some cat stuff. And then you you soap soap yeah uh you so what is what soap do you use i need to i want to get a soap sponsor my wife doesn't like me using soap like i'm not

like she was telling me forever i can't use tide and then i was like she's telling me there's all these poisons in it my sister would tell me that shit too. Recently, they just banned Tide detergent in the state of New York. My wife's like, see, I told you. Yeah, you got to get the clear shit, the stuff free from all those things. You got to do your best. How about in the shower, what soap do you use? I just found out one of my buddies doesn't use

soap in the shower in 15 years. I can't even believe it. He's not even a weirdo like us three. Oh, true. Most of the time time i don't use soap like especially if it's like a quick shower just water should be enough but don't you like to like i like to suds my ass and my armpits and my pubes in the front i like to do now i'm using duke cannon's thick buffalo trace buffalo tray that oh that Oh, look, there he is. Good job.

Look at you, Sousa. Look at you bringing in the heavyweight. Justin Dunley. It's all natural oils and stuff like that. Ducan is a really good brand, especially for beard oil, lotions, creams. I'm here to give you that vitamin D. Justin Dunley, please meet Alex Caceres. Hey, Alex, I'm going to contact those people and see if they'll pay me and you money to promote their soap.

Yeah. They're a really good brand. They're very transparent. Everything's on the label. I looked up their websites and everything like that. Everything's super clean. Usually a lot of pine oil or teacher oil. Really good stuff, though.

Amazing discussion. Alex is an awakened being. He's on a different frequency. Darian is an okay dude, too. Oh, thanks. No, they said good dude. I just switched it to... How about me?

How about me, Trish? How about me? What about this dude you're going to fight this Nate dude? Do you know anything about him or do you care? On the 25th. I know that he was the guy that got knocked out by Juliana Rosa with a flying knee before I fought him. Okay. I called my wife with a flying knee last night how is she how is she she was uh she was she was walking a

little bow-legged this morning but it wasn't from the d you know what i'm saying yeah i know what you're saying i know what you're saying vitamin d know what you're saying. It's that vitamin D. Alex, do you recognize Justin by any chance? Was he on the... He was in the Ultimate Fighter the season you were there, but since then he's just living off of Coca-Cola and Big Macs. It's cocaine and Big Macs. Sorry, cocaine and Big Macs. No, I'm joking.

He's a... He's a comedian that Darian and I have befriended. He's a huge UFC fan. This is his Instagram account with these very clever... Clever. Very clever.

Show him the deer penis. Show him the penis one. That's big, man. Show him the big D down Show him the penis one. That's big, man. Yeah, show him the big D down there, the white D. Crockpot pizza. Jeez. The joke usually works better if the sound's on. Today we're putting penis in the crockpot. That's right.

Oh, so when he does it, it's culinary art. But when I do it, you can't come back to this food truck sir make it make today that's a deer dick they will eat anything hey have you ever seen a pig's dick no no is it like an arrow it's crooked like a corkscrew like its tail oh i think i've seen that and so is a duck hey could you imagine like i was thinking about the other day like could you imagine like like I was thinking about the other day, like could you imagine like if a duck had like a dick that was like outside its body and it's just like dragging and just cocking balls as it's wobbling? It'd be funny as hell.

Oh, I see. Oh, something's wrong with your audio, Justin. It's like really, really scratchy. Mine is? Yeah. A little bit. No, it's bad. Can you hang up and call back? Yeah up and call okay good um uh march 25th and so so you're gonna fight this guy and is he in the top 15 nope

and why do you accept the fight? Get paid. Let's go. Well, yeah, that's one big reason. And I've come to accept the fact that I don't have a choice on what the UFC does with my character. I can only show up and beat the fuck out of the people that are in front of me. You the man. Yeah. And that works in any of me. You're the man. Yeah. And I don't mean it in any malice way towards my opponent or anything.

It's just, it's what I have to do because I feel that my goal and my dream and what I'm trying to do with this world and myself is a lot greater than the aspirations of some person that wants to just fight for money. So you're in my way. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. God, you're a good dude, Alex. Mic check! Yes! Yes.

There it is. Yes, yes, yes. Always got to go back to the wire, man. Alex, you are not a huge UFC fan, by the way. Is that correct? You're not a... I mean, I love fighting for the UFC. I just don't watch sports. I don the ufc i just don't watch

sports it is i don't watch it neither i don't watch any sports i can't keep up with the shit man and like it's just and then like and then listening to people talk about it that don't play sports it's just uh it's just like and like like they can do it better or they can do this or you should have done that it's like why don't you just enjoy watching it like yeah when i watch basketball i never said like oh i like this team'm like, oh, these guys are fucking athletic. These guys are doing some crazy shit. Like it's just amazing to watch right now. It's like a whole theatric show.

But when people are watching, oh, fuck that guy. I'm like, bro, this guy's doing something you can never, ever imagine doing in your dreams. And then you're going to hurt him. You're going to hurt him. And like, that's crazy. It's like, just enjoy the show for fuck's sake. How about the bullshit you get when you lose a fight and how people flood your inbox with just like- Dude, I was about to say, I was about to say like, y'all didn't watch my commentary on Darien's last fight?

Oh, no. But for me, it's even when I win fights, it's like when I win fights, I get flooded with like, there's some secret haters. And the people that make accounts, they just make accounts to hate on me. Oh, the next fight, you're going to get fucking smoked. Oh, you think you're good. Oh, that bullshit. Um, that want to be like humbleness, this bullshit, you're not a spiritual person. Like, like, like just attack my character completely. Like, I'm like, damn. I'm like, it's like that. I'm like, holy shit.

I can't even say shit these days. I can't even say, I can't even say, Hey, we're all one. amen, peace and love. Oh, that's bullshit. As soon as you're like, hey, we're all the same people, we're just different. Hey, they're like, fuck this guy and his mother. People are wild, bro.

Hey, how do those people sleep at night? They don't. They're up at night typing. They don't sleep at night. Oh, I gotta get their NPCs, bro. sleep at night they don't they're up at night typing they don't sleep at night and they got so much hate inside them bro they just want to spew it to everybody else it's all it is like what's npc non-playable character yeah yeah what does that mean they're they're just like just dead but dead behind the eyes bro yeah okay okay so like like um the way i like to explain it to like everybody's born a real person but you lose your real humanity as you grow up and become jaded by this world then you become an npc you become a person that conforms to every single little thing basically like a bob or a

karen brought to you by pfizer but bob or karens are like a little bit more stronger npcs you'll call them like agent smiths the minute you start doing something that you know seems to be off norm and progressively better for you and other people around you it's like they'll immediately try and stop you even if you talk to them about it and the funny thing sometimes your closest friends and your family could be these agent smiths the minute they fucking hate you there are people that are friends with you and people in your family that fucking hate you. And you don't even know it yet.

Maybe we should start eating like this a little bit better. Or like, it will help out with it. What the fuck are you saying? Like, you're just going against all like hundreds of years of culture. My daddy ate like this and my daddy's daddy ate like this. Fuck you. And I'm like, okay, I'm sorry. this fuck you and i'm like okay i'm sorry dude ain't it crazy though that we're like in we're all like in different like areas right of of life like in different spaces but we deal with the same

bullshit man but what does give me an example give me an example so i've there's a there's a dude right now that lives in north carolina I think. No, it's Virginia. He's committed three felonies in my inbox, bro, of shit that he said that I kind of had to take serious. I had to go to the sheriff. I was like, yo, is this something I should be concerned about? I like to let a lot of shit slide. It's been two or three months he's been doing this. He was like, yeah, this is some shit you should be concerned about.

What the fuck is wrong with people? Dude, people are wild and i don't do nothing but tell jokes that's true yeah like hey did derrick lewis get kicked off of instagram what was his what was his instagram the black beast what was his the beast uh ufc beast why do you have to be the black beast, Siobhan? Yeah. Well, I don't know. Come on, man. Come on. Black history month. That's why. Yeah.

It's black history month. Flood his inbox. Blow him up. Hey, it says right here, Derek, lose band from Instagram. Why?

Why do you? He, probably because the Instagram account was too good. Man, his Instagram account was. Yeah. Like the Instagram done that to me before plenty of times like sometimes i'll be on live like i'll go on live and i'll have like conversations

with people like this like talking about some deep shit and they will cut me off like in the middle of my stream and i lost my account and then send me a message like things that you're saying are like inappropriate i'm like i'm only talking about diet spirituality nutrition and then like they're saying that this is like it's offensive to people like what the fuck am i saying hey dude there was a no carb facebook page that had like 200 000 people on it and all they talked about was like how you shouldn't eat refined carbohydrates and um and it was it was pulled down because as be giving bad poor medical advice well man look at the big one of the biggest companies in the food industry is like ketlogs

bro yeah of course hey did he and so you saw justin hit the vape and then you're like all right i'm gonna smoke a joint oh i didn't see nobody hit the bait i'm just i didn't even see justin hit the vape he's's slick. Because I'm fast. He's slick. Just ask my wife. It's not a joint. It's a blunt. Yes.

Yes. We did this last time. A joint small and wide. A blunt is longer and darker. It's kind of synonymous in real life, too, you know? The first show I ever did with Alex, the show started, and he had his camera pointed right at a paper plate full of just nugs. And the show started with him rolling a blunt. A blunt.

Thank you. Here's the deodorant I use, by the way. Oh, I don't use deodorant. Do you use deodorant, Darian? Yeah, I do use deodorant. Just a splash. Do you use it, Justin? I don't use any deodorant. Whatian? Yeah, I do use deodorant. Just a splash. Do you use it, Justin? I don't use any deodorant.

What the fuck? I bet you stink. How the fuck you don't use deodorant? Come on, man. I just don't. No one ever tells me I stink. You heard about vabbing, right? Where chicks be like rubbing their finger on their coochie and then rubbing it on their skin and stuff.

Hey. I forgot to put some on today. There you go. Hey, why don't – Alex, I picture you using – What? The Vaughn right now. Cass.

Hey, Alex, why don't you use one of those crystals? They got like these just rocks that my hippie friends used to use in college. It's just a rock. Oh, yeah. I used those before. Yeah. We need to talk about this, man. How do you not use deodorant?

I don't use deodorant. The detergent I use smells like – what's that hippie scent? Panucci? Patchouli. My wife is just slowly taking all the chemicals out of my house she's like just slowly take we don't even use plastic bags dude you've been living in california too long and it shows okay like come on man dude you're gonna start accepting maps as real people what is real people? Maps? You know what maps are?

Mine are attracted persons. They're pedophiles. Oh, Jesus. I will not. Hey, I will not accept them as people. Yeah. Pinocha. Yeah, we're getting rid of all the chemicals.

I need a good sponsor. No, Pinocha, that's Spanish for pussy, man. Oh, it is? Yeah, come on, Savan. You're better than this. You are babbing. Look at him. Oh, my God. Hey, Alex, how's the garden going?

I know you had quite the garden going. You still doing that um i moved to another place at the moment um did you move all your plants did you move all your pots not all my all my plants are not there yet um i don't have enough room i'm in a smaller fucking place um this is kind of becoming a a short-term necessity at the moment. I kind of lost my house. I had to sell it to keep my business open. But you got fight of the night. Wasn't that enough to keep the business open?

Yeah, after the fact, but I had to sell it before because the landlords, since I couldn't, I wasn't going to be able to make the rent, or I was asking for time, and they're like, oh, I was going to fight anyway So like once I get the fight, I'll pay the rent, but they didn't want to do that. They were trying to take me to court for not paying the fucking rent.

And then, so I had to come up with the money. And so I sold the house instead. Oh God, that's stressful. You could have just sold meth, man. That's what Justin says.

Don't, don't sell that. Yeah. I'm white. hey listen i was in atlanta for the sec championship game a few weeks ago right now what sport is that what sport is that the football college football okay and it's after the game but we're walking down the street we're we're headed back to the uh airbnb right um and the these two black guys are selling beer out of a cooler on the sidewalk.

And I'm walking through. Dude's like, you want some beer? You want some beer? He's like, he got close to me. He's like, I got weed, too. And I was like, no, man, I'm looking for some meth. And he's like, come here, dog. Come here.

Come here. I was like, uh-uh. I ain't buying no meth from a black guy. That's the only thing that we can cook better than you. It ain't happening, bro. Maybe he was going to show you to a white guy. Maybe I got to back here. Come on.

Yeah, yeah. Take you to his friend, you know, that's out there. That's how Liam Neeson movie starts out. I ain't going with that dude if I may. That ain't happening. He's going to take you to the only white guy that's allowed to say nigga. Right. Literally. Here, this is a great one too you gave we just got it this one this one's here we go here we go better than black people myth i screwed that up i

screwed that up hold on would you take this for a second. The joke works better with sound. White people cook better than black people. Meth. Meth. Did you know that Dora the Explorer is real name? Hey, what's the guy really say? Yeah, I mean, that's what he's asking. He's like, tell me something that white people cook better than black people.

And does he ever give you anything? No, multiple people just answer to that video and multiple they met yeah you're a good dude nunley well like there was another one there was another one that was funny that i was i was advised against posting that i thought was good well do it here break it here on the sebon podcast because we get banned all the time anyway the guy the guy asked he said name one thing that that um white people can do that black people can't do and i said swim tell me i'm lying tell me what's wrong with that hey i don't know if it got to differentiate that, man, because all Afro-Caribbean people can swim.

Don't ruin the prejudice and discrimination jokes, Alex. Please do not ruin the... Don't ruin a good racist joke, please. And I hate that stereotype. Yeah, Justin. Can you swim? Can you swim? Can you swim?

I can't swim. See? We're 50-50 right now. I'm just saying, I think I have too much muscle to swim. You ain't got no damn too much muscle. I got fat all over my body. I probably weigh 20 pounds on you. But fat floats. Fat can float. I'm sinking. I i'm a rock you are a rock you're a um that's one thing i can do i can't float on my back

you can or you can't yeah you have too much muscle you too much your density is too much yeah not good but i swim i swim good i mean a hundred percent swimmers a hundred percent swimmers fifty percent good point good point good point that's good that's good okay all right so maybe maybe the more politically correct joke to say is that half of black people can't swim hey darian you know what's fucked up, dude? You know what I just realized? You're not going to like this. What? Dude, when you needed to demand from the UFC when you were there that they got you a blue checkmark.

Oh, it's all right. I don't need a blue checkmark. What's a blue checkmark to? They didn't give you a blue checkmark? Yeah, no. I don't really mind about the blue check mark though look at that i look like i look like bruce leroy right there yeah look at that i thought that was me for a second oh i can't with it that's so good i can do it better hey who took that picture

that's a great picture i thought about i thought about uh needing a blue check mark and everything but then i just figured like uh you know, what's that? Just to verify to people that I was somebody, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, that's it. I said, I'm cool, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's like sitting in first class, man. You can, like, look at all the other peasants walking by you going to the coach seats, dog.

You know? Like, look at you with your 60,000 followers but no check mark. Hey, look at this. I didn't know Justin held bags for you. There he is. There's Nunley. I ain't doing that. I tell too many jokes.

That'd be like cracking jokes while he's punching. Him slip and just hit jaw me one time. No, I'm good. It's pretty good. How long have you been in the UFC, Darian? I was in the UFC for only a short time. I had three decision losses, and then they booted me. Three decision losses, Alex.

And they booted me. For sure, one of them, for sure, 100% one of them was not a loss for sure I'd probably say for sure two of them but I don't want to be total suck his dick here I'd say for sure two of them but you can go ahead and put it in your mouth one of them I actually did lose you know and that was just

that was just my lack of activity but I actually did lose, you know, and that was just my lack of activity. But I beat them. But, you know, what are you going to do? You got to sometimes, you know, maybe there was a step I missed. So maybe I got knocked back down a couple levels, and I'm supposed to, you know, redo something. So I'm still on the grind, still on the push forward. I'm going to probably – I got also an MMA match set for March 25th.

You do? And, yeah, it'll be in Florida for Titan FC. Who are you fighting? They haven't given Tony. He'll be on that card. Where at in Florida? Oh, somewhere. Somewhere where they're at

you can stop by Fort Walton Beach get your ass whooped on the way I'll wear that damn head out stop by here stop by there

I do and I got a got a couple jiu jitsu I'm gonna try to get a boxing into the

next district month just a late notice boxing match somewhere. Hopefully in California. I'll fight you for Black History Month. I'd pay to see that. Hey, Alex, check this out. He fought Brian

Barberina, Ian Gary and Johan Lannis. I mean, all fucking great fighters, too. Well, I don't know about Ian Gary. But the other two, for sure. Yeah, Brian Barbarino's a tough... I used to train with him back in AZ, man. He's a tough

motherfucker. Yeah, on three days notice, that was my first UFC fight on three days notice. And it was a banger. It went to decision. It was a banger. It was a great fight. Oh, shit. I gotta go. I got a business call. Oh, shit. I got to go. I got a business call. Okay, bye. I love you.

Bye. Thanks for checking in, brother. I got a lot to you. I might have to scoot out here, too. I got work. Me, too. I don't want to get contact high. Hey, by the way, I really love that room you're in.

Every time you're in that room, I love that shot. I love that. I want to go look and see what's on in that bookcase i want to touch some of that shit in there there's a ton like it's like from this side there's it starts from magazines and then we have yes a world records books yeah and then we have cookbooks how-to books um board games yeah board games and then over here is a small section of like um theology and stuff like that oh i like it right yeah that's all you need small section it's just all section of the but yeah it's a it's a it's quite a few good books on there

i got on the how-to shelf i have a lot of uh mixed martial arts how-to books i got george st pierre's book bruce lee's um i think we got some stuff by rob van dam i mean uh it's got it's got a lot it's got a lot in there the best maharaj weed is vegan i mean it is hey but I will tell you my man Alex it was a pleasure it was a pleasure to talk with you you have a freaking brilliant mind and you see things the way that people should always see things but hopefully you keep

inflicting people like that and making the impact and Savan as always dude Darian I love seeing you on Fridays buddy thanks for coming on the show. Always. I hope you get a little taller, but we'll talk about it. Thank you.

Thank you. Send me some vitamins. You guys have a good one. Ciao, brother. You too, man. Peace. Alex. Yeah, good people, right?

Yeah. Yeah. I had him on the show right before his first fight, and then I just kept inviting him back on Fridays when we talked to UFC guys. And it's cool. Sometimes he'll even have to cut someone's hair and he'll do a little bit of the show while he's cutting someone's hair. It's pretty. Hey, dude, I always appreciate how easy it is for you to get in touch with you and your quick responses. This show, obviously, being a podcaster and this being my gig, you make it such a pleasure.

I walk away a better person talking to you and you're just so easy to deal with. So thank you. Thank you for having me on the show. I enjoy podcasts like this. I enjoy just having free conversations with other human beings about humanity and everything else. And of course,

yeah, I'm a fighter. So you're going to ask me some fighting questions and stuff like that, but it's understandable. Um, but yeah, man, it's always, always enjoyable to have a good chat with somebody that's, um, it was like a, like a, like a saying from a song that I heard is like, he was giving cheers to people. He was like, here's to the few who forgive what you do and to the fewer who don't even care. And like, I feel to the few who forgive what you do and to the fewer who don't even care. And like, I feel like the, and when he means I don't even care, I mean like these people don't care about you, but they just don't give a fuck how you live your life. And they

accept you and appreciate you for what you are. And those kinds of people are just rare in this world. Everybody likes you only. So however you make them feel. And that's like a, it's like what a, what was it? A rabbi said, that's called fish love. You know, if you love the fish, you wouldn't pluck it out the water, suffocate it, split it open and eat it. You love the way the fish makes you feel. So that's how most people treat relationships.

It's a fish love. We don't love the person. We love how they make us feel in our own certain situations and circumstances. Well, you know, besides the reason why I like you because you contribute to my show and when my show does well, I can pay for put food on my table. That's obviously the most superficial reason. But I also like you because of this. I like knowing that there's people out there in the world like you uh because i think

you make the world a better place and uh and that's fucking awesome that is i i just i know i don't think that i know that you make the world a better place just by the way you think the way you treat people the way you carry yourself you're such a cool dude thank you so much that's uh words i can appreciate you know i'm like especially and i will admit like in times that I'm having now there are difficult times the past five fights have been very difficult times I just it seems like I haven't been able to catch a break

and also kind of like running through my mind questioning on how good of a person am I really or if these things continuously happen to me am I selling myself an illusion or it's just these trials and tribulations that I must go through? Yeah. Things like that.

Like it becomes and it's kind of like it was an idea I was pondering the other day. It's like like trying to be as honest with myself as much as possible. And it's like it's like getting better. You know, I associate it to get to being honest with yourself is like getting better. I associate it to being honest with yourself is like getting better. When you're being honest with yourself, you constantly feel like you're full of shit. The same way when you're getting better

is because you constantly feel like you're not good. Right. So that fear of being inadequate in any aspect of your life promotes you to be the best version of yourself or some people to be the best version of yourself, at least for me. Yeah, for me, too. Nudges you nudges you to make a move. Yeah. It's like, OK, look, I'm not doing the best that I want to be right now. So I should I try to try and achieve it. If I'm honest with myself, if I'm not going to lie to myself, then I really got to explore the ways that I'm full of shit to myself, you know, or hypocritical to myself. And we rarely as human beings ever do that self-analysis and be like, hey, this is what's really wrong with me. I should

fix this because it will benefit not only me, but society around me as well. And this is the function of, I believe, our purpose in humanity as to live in human life together as one consciousness, you know, like as one being, as in we are concerned and committed to each other in such a way that it promotes interdependency. And we fail to we fall short of it a lot of the times, but it's just because we don't look at ourselves as not enough enough. Does that make sense? Makes sense. A fucking a hundred percent. You know, we're always thinking they're like, Oh, I'm good for this. And everybody has to accept me for what I am. No, if you're an asshole, if you're a scumbag, if you're a loser, if you're a bitch, we don't have to accept you for what you are. You got to get better. It's not okay to be that way. It's not, it's not okay to be fat and lazy. And it's

not. You have to go out and exercise. This is your human body. This is your vessel. Do the best that you can. If not for yourself, then for everybody else around you. Because when you're doing good, everybody else does better. And nobody really realizes it, realizes that. No one really, when I go into a room and you beat my ass every day in the wrestling room, I'm going to get better. I know that. But some people take it personally and never come back. And they will get worse. Hey, I wish your audio was better.

It's breaking up so fucking bad. I don't know what you did, but it's so crackly and poppy like Justin's was. But, dude, you so fucking nailed it. you oh yeah it's better you so fucking nailed it you people don't realize that when you go outside into the public you are and you are not a good role like that we're all just mirrors here and then when you go out into the public and you're a bad role model basically when you stand outside of the front of a building and light up a cigarette you're telling everyone who walks by you it's okay to smoke cigarettes when you yell at someone and other people hear you you're telling everyone who walks by you it's okay to smoke cigarettes when you yell at someone and other people hear you you're telling everyone around you it's okay to yell at someone when you walk around and you're like just a guy i don't want to pick on fat people not not for the reason

why yeah i understand the reason why i don't want to pick on fat people is because some of them might be on the journey to get skinny other than that fuck that i'll pick on them but but if but if we we're all just mirrors here and if you're not doing your part to be the best person that you are there's no homeostasis you're either contributing to making everything better or you're making everything worse which part what side of the fence do you want to be on i want to be on the yeah i would i don't want to be fake but i don't want my friends also to see me like smoking a cigarette i would be ashamed of that and i would hide that shit me personally i don't want to tell the world it's okay to fucking buy marlboro lights and smoke them

but the but but the thing is is like um um with with those kind of things you know like everybody can like when i'm talking about yeah exactly for sure you don't want that to happen if you smoke cigarettes and you know they're bad and so you're not going to promote smoking cigarettes but then you can look hypocritical for doing it yourself yeah i feel like then you have to make strides and strives for being what you say to be right in that sense so like if you speak it into it but but the the fact that you do that the fact that you can understand that shows that you have a conscience like hey you know like i like but most people are just doing it just because they

don't give a fuck and they don't have any consideration whatsoever and that and that's where it becomes a problem that people don't consider um themselves let alone other people so like um like when like earlier when it comes to food and for just for pleasure some people will just eat themselves to a point and then and then go turn around and tell you to accept them for being fat. I'm like, no, I don't have to, because it's not your natural self. Right. No, we have a, we have a problem and a tendency as human beings to accept things that are not natural, that are not to the max of our full potential as regular or as normal or

as good. So if some person like, like, like, like for instance, like, like, like, like you ever heard of like, Oh, a mother's love, like, like, so her son can be a fucking like delinquent, you know, and don't contribute shit to society. But to her, he's a good kid. No, that's a lie. You're lying to yourself. If you're not being honest with yourself, then you're not adjusting the issue. And if you did adjust the issue, maybe your son would be such an asshole and be taxing on society.

an asshole and be taxing on society. Right. But these are the kind of things where we're creatures of comfort and we'd rather be comfortable than actually be honest with ourselves because being honest requires us to do work. And everybody has work to do. Everybody. Even people that are successful. And if you don't have work to do, you have maintenance to upkeep. Constantly be virtuous.

Constantly be, what is that word uh alert and aware of the surroundings around of the situation around you so that's why i like um if you want to promote eating plants i don't i i don't promote um people to become vegan you know i'm still vegan um i i feel like I need to be this way for a little bit longer to actually see what it really means. Right. But I don't try and convince people to be vegan, but just for the sake of the planet and for themselves, I just try to convince people to, if you are going to eat like your ancestors and let's eat like your ancestors. So you're probably going to eat meat like once a week, you know, or eat 10% of it on your plate, rather it being the major thing on your dish, you know, and then maybe you'll see the health of the planet and in human beings revert back to a little bit more to its natural way. the waters of the planet and the waters of our, of our, of ourselves. We're three-fourths water.

The planet is three-fourths water. You know, when, and, um, right now, uh, 98% of the planet, or I will say like 98 or 80% of the, uh, four, um, I'm sorry, 40% of the planet's rainforests are like deforest, you know, they're fucked up, you know, and we see that. And then we see the air getting fucked up and now we only see the air getting fucked up you know and we see that and then we see the air getting fucked up and now we only see the air getting fucked up but then we see more respiratory problems within human beings so we're completely connected the waters are becoming polluted there's more dead zones in the water and now we're seeing more stagnancy and more toxicity and more acidity in people's water in their bodies you know but the water of the earth is connected with the water because it's the same water. So if the waters are

polluted on earth, then the water is going to be polluted within us. You know? And then now, you have... And vice versa. And vice versa. Yeah. Exactly. We eat a bunch of shit and pollute ourselves. We're polluting the earth with that same shit. Yeah. It's like a... It goes with... Symbiosis.

Yeah. And then the same thing too with the earth. We will kill ourselves before we kill the earth though. earth with that same shit it's a it's like a yeah it's a it goes with symbiosis yeah yeah and then um the same thing too with the earth now we will kill ourselves before we kill the earth though the earth will the earth will go on no for sure but yeah but we can see that the problems arising in ourselves is in is in direct correlation with the problems that are continuing on the earth yeah it just takes place in a different time frame so for us it happens a little quicker and we don't associate it with the earth that's going through in a in a in a in a more longer period of change so with the earth you know we're poisoning the earth because all the runoffs from the factory farms is literally drenching the soil with blood guts and shit and you can't grow

anything on it it becomes barren land They become almost deserts and stuff. And look at our bodies. You know, we're being afflicted in the same way. So the more we hurt the earth, the more we hurt ourselves. So we just got to try and live more naturally. If we're going to hunt, then how was ancient man,

75, 100 years ago, not that ancient, by the way, were able to keep eating meat, eating whatever they wanted, but still keep 98% of the wild animals alive. How was it that 75 years later, we only have 2% of them alive. And I have so many, I have so many friends who hunt and those, those guys who hunt are the guys who want to keep the land the most pristine. Yeah. And right now we're just fucking it up. And it's because, and it's not for the, cause we need to eat meat more. And always cause we want to eat more. Right.

And definitely don't need to. And so we have to change our, yeah, our priorities on earth, our desire system like what do we think is important and what is not and like really understand that yeah we're here one time as far as we know it and we got one planet but there's going to be people here after us and after us and they're related to us to our children and we would like to leave it better i would like to leave it better than when i found it. Alex, I have to go. I loved having you on.

You are awesome. It blew by. Yeah. Yeah, you are truly great. I'll be watching on the 25th, and I'll keep bugging you, and I look forward to our next chat. Each podcast I do with you keeps getting better and better. You are a cool dude, brother. Thank you so much.

Peace. Peace, man. I don't want to fuck with his energy. I know that was a bit abrupt. Yeah, no, he was going but it was that time for you, so you did good. Okay, good.

I really like him. He gave. He really gave of himself this show. Dude, the first portion when he was going on the Black History Month stuff and things like that, there was some great stuff in there. I took a little timestamp, so we could clip it. Clip it. Clip it. That show was crazy.

That show was a lot of fun. God, Darian's so good, too. And then Justin Nunley came on. What a show. Yeah That show was a lot of fun. God, Darian's so good, too. And then Justin Nunley came on. What a show. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. Okay, March 25th, Alex Caceres. Is TDC coming today? No.

Is he scheduled? Yeah. That's the... Yeah. Okay. Well, you can keep moving that. You just gotta keep moving it. Soon, soon.

He is. He's a moving target, guys. Yeah, he's moving to us. Exactly. Someone stop having a life. We need eight hours a day of podcasts. Soon, soon. He is. He's a moving target, guys. Yeah, he's moving to us. Exactly. Someone stop having a life. We need eight hours a day of podcasts. It's soon. Very soon.

I'm getting rid of my life. I'm so selfish. Okay. I am late for a breakfast appointment. You guys are the best. 10 a.m. show today? No. Is that what it's scheduled for?

I think it's scheduled for noon. I'm going to adjust it right now. We might do a show tonight. I need to call and see what Suze is doing. Alright. Yes, Mark Moss, you have said it. You've hit the

nail on the dick. Yes, with Greg. We're going to break this with Greg. You've hit the dick on the nail. Okay. Bye-bye.