The Sevan Podcast - #839 - Josh Bridges | The last Good Dude

Episode Date: March 16, 2023

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Yeah. No. That's the truth, bro. That's the truth. Are you picking me up good? I don't know if close enough. I'm picking up great. You are picking up great.

Dude, you look like I just interrupted you from doing something no like were you in the garage making something i'm gonna be soon i did just get an order from rogue did you is it in the driveway it was and then last night i had to get it in because today it's going to be 68 degrees but tomorrow it possibly is going to snow 68 i think you're lying no there's no way that's the facts buddy for those of you who don't know josh has moved to uh one of the coldest places on planet earth false it's actually one of the it's one of the sunniest places on planet earth oh i knew you were going to say something like that that's just a denver thing to say right nowadays do you get a lot of sunny days dude it's always sunny

hey are you sick no i just i mean i'm not i'm not completely awake hey when you're when people i don't like to tell people i'm sick because other people's sick is like so different than my sick oh yeah it's way worse and i don't want to be around it what other people's sickness yeah never yeah then you would hate me because like i don't care get your sickness the fuck away from me so so my my i text the skateboard instructor last night and i said hey it's going to be sunny tomorrow meet me at the skate park and he goes dude i'm really sick and i go would you feel bad he goes, dude, I'm really sick. And I go, do you feel bad? He goes, no. He goes, but I have like all the symptoms and I'm snotty. I'm like, dude, I don't give a fuck. He's all really.

I'm like, dude, give me that cup of coffee. I'll lick the rim right now. Totally. Like I, I, my sickness is, it doesn't, um, doesn't affect anything on, I'll go to the gym and blow snot rockets. Like, I don't care. I'll touch anything. I don't – like don't – you guys are all pussies.

You're an asshole. No, listen. You guys don't get it. I get it. You're an asshole. I don't put shopping carts away. I go out when I'm sick, and I park in the handicapped spots, and I don't give a fuck. Now listen.

You fought for my freedom, and I'm going to fucking take advantage of it. I was my jujitsu, my kids, jujitsu instructors. I don't know if I'm using this word, right. But I think I'm cool when I use it. They are vectors for sickness.

Yeah. All the sickness comes to them and then it all goes out every day. And I'm like, yeah, fuck all those little, every one of those little guys are just little germs little balls of germs bring it yeah just bring it yeah i don't i mean if that's how you feel then that's how you feel man i mean if you want to be that guy yeah david you're a pussy

real man never get sick that must be directed at uh josh i don't get sick uh andrew hiller already taking quotes you fought for my freedom i'm gonna take advantage of it of course look at this shirt dear bill and katie is that one of your is that your one of yours yeah we don't sell it it's custom it's a custom dear oh why why did you guys do you say that a lot just occasionally it comes up like if i need a piece of equipment or if i see something on their site i like i i open with a i don't know what this word means either but i'll just say it a soliloquy i love um i love when i see the bat symbols on any of my shit i love it people calling like because it's because it's funny

because like people think i give a fuck it's like oh call the bad boy yeah give him a call there's no way hiller comes over and talks to you he's he's i don't think hiller's scared of anyone but he's definitely scared of you i love it when you uh he's definitely scared of you i love it when you're trying to get him on here i know what you're doing um i got i got I got one because I got like 190 reps on the burpee shuttle run thing. Even my manager was like, I'm going to have to fucking see video of this. And I'm like, why would I fucking lie? I'm not even doing the open.

I could give two fucks. It was impressive. Thank you. I had to do a sidestep every back and forth. What do you mean? I had to go through a door. Oh, oh, oh. For the 25 feet?

For the 25 feet, yeah. Oh, that's awesome. No, no one has ever seen Hiller and Bridges in the same place. Never. Could be the same person. We could be the same one. Totally. This is completely fake.

This shit is completely fake this is just fake i just glue it on um i was uh oh i should show you something someone said to me i should we start hot do we start hot fuck yeah let's send it what who's, uh, who, for the open workouts, who did Hiller go after? Anybody good? Um, just after CrossFit. I don't know if you're watching the leaderboard, but it's just a mess. The leaderboard basically is just doesn't matter at all. Whether it comes to the terms of people validating the scores, people sending in fake videos, the names are fake. I mean, he's on the leaderboard and the names are fake i mean he's on the

leaderboard and he's juiced up and he's in the quarterfinals and he openly takes steroids um and he's not on the uh out of season protocol testing but no probably not i i don't know but just in so many ways it's just a fucking mess josh and like i don't know if you saw but um like if you take all of rich's open scores and add them up he did worse this year than all of those scores put together and basically and you can find that in a lot of places and basically people are saying like yeah you change the test so fucking much that it really doesn't test your fitness relative to previous years like the whole communal aspect of it's gone like you would hope that every year you take the

open that you get a little bit better a little bit worse or you can be like yeah i did worse this year because my mom died my dog died my wife left me you know what i mean yeah and but but you can't do that this year there's dudes who are the fittest they've ever been and they took 10 000 places lower just because of the choice of the programming and they're it's just a fucking mess so i wouldn't say he went after anyone specific but there's this there's a crew of people who are pretty frustrated i mean i get it man it was it was weird i mean i i kind of actually this was the first year i actually kind of careful you're mr crossfit no i paid i haven't paid attention since that drastically since like 2020 because of knowing that i wasn't going to do it um i just can't i can't do certain movements anymore.

And so I can lose interest if I'm not able to compete in it. And this year I was like, you know what? I, I love CrossFit. I love the ideology behind CrossFit. I love what it stands for. I love what it's created. I love, I don't think that there's a better fitness regimen out there in the world than CrossFit. So I am just, I'm not quite on the teat like you are, you know, because you still love like the corporation of Corp of CrossFit. I just love the ideology behind it. But, uh, that was very classy though. But, um, yeah, so this year I kind of paid attention and the open just, yeah, it was just, I don't know the workouts were interesting um I guess is the only way to put it uh yeah and and I didn't even realize it was only three weeks too and in the

quarterfinals I mean yeah just it didn't seem like it was um for three workouts I think I could have put together three better workouts but that's easy to do, right? I'm armchair quarterback, but I don't know. Let me show you this real quick. Someone made, someone, someone, oh, nope, not that. Don't share your email, someone. Hold on. Let me see if I can find this share screen window. Oh, here we go go someone made this for me jesus that's my face on danny spiegel's body hold on let me see if you guys saw anything from my uh no you guys didn't see anything in my emails good screenshot away i don't give a fuck. Yeah. Pretty good, right? Hey, it's not like Adrian's not capable. You know Adrian better than I do. I don't know.

I mean, I know him. Oh, yeah. You and Adrian have had some hiccups. Hiccups? I don't see any hiccups. I mean, I didn't think he was the best head judge. I thought that he, I think I, I don't know. I'm trying to put this like correct, you know, like I don't want to, I don't dislike Adrian.

I thought when it came to being a judge, he was solely focused on hoping that his judges always did were always correct all the time instead of being like, Hey, I just want the right outcome to have happened. And I, that's what really got under my skin where it doesn't matter if it was on the athlete or the judge, as long as the right call is made, that's all I cared about. And he didn't care about that. He cared about his judges always having the right like basically 100 authority which is so insane to me because that's the only sport you'll ever see that right that's why

there are instant replays in in other sports and things like that and so you mean a loyalty to the judge instead of to the truth yeah exactly like and a judge should it should only be looking for the right answer, not who has the right answer. Fair. There is a – I feel like there was something interesting that happened at the games last year that I don't ever remember happening at the games. They had a sandbag lift, right? Do you remember that thing? Last year? Yeah.

The one where they went up the Capitol? The Capitol one? No, no, no, no. They were – Oh, no, no. The one at Yeah. The one where they went up the Capitol? The Capitol one? No, no, no, no. They were in the— Oh, no, no. The one rep max. The one rep max, yes. That one that Danny Spiegel did 250, that insane lift, right?

Yes. And Guy and I don't know if it was Medeiros or someone did a crazy lift. No, it was Guy and Brent Pekowski and— Adler? No, no. The Matthew— Oh, yeah. Nick Matthews.

Nick Matthews, yeah. Yeah, okay. Matthew Nichols is good, though, no. The Matthew. Oh, yeah. Nick Matthews. Nick Matthews. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Matthew Nichols is good, though, too. I like that. Nick Matthews is the guy who wears the half shirt. Matthew Nichols is the guy who wears the full shirt. God, you must hate the half shirt. I don't hate it. I like I like that, dude. I think he's a fucking stud. Oh, I hate that shirt. He's so unassuming. Whatever, man. Like, I don't understand you. You've got God. you've fallen in love your kids are getting older you're in denver you're a fucking mess you're a shell of the man you just you just want me to talk shit that's all no man i like nick matthews he's a stud man that dude is

he's legit i mean because he's so unassuming did you think he was going to pick up a 350 pound no no walking next that guy no he got alligator arms like me not only that but i was uh surprised he made it to the games and i wasn't thinking he was going to do shit there i thought it was like an accident and then he went there and fucking kicked ass yeah what and he because he was a step in right from one of the events something like that like someone tested positive or broke their leg or something yeah and he can't he stepped up or he was like the bat the next guy in line uh crop top is gay as fuck cool but if he's gay then it's perfect um so what they had for the sandbag josh was is that there was no definitive number of lifts isn't that weird for a competition and i thought oh that's a that that is kind of adrian's

stamp on it because he is kind of like that like well um you know what i mean does isn't that weird for a competition you were allowed to lift as many times as you wanted in the 30 seconds you mean no there was no time dude there was no time there was no time there it was There was no time? There was no time. It was just – it was a soft time. Oh. It was like, hey, I feel like you got another lift and you lift. And so he's blurring that line between these strict rules that you would see from someone like Dave versus like, hey, the spirit of the competition is now we're leading more that way. And you can see it in everything. Yeah, and I mean i get it like i that is a weird odd object um and it can't and it did take

some people some like having that no time domain probably helped the show a little bit but i don't know yeah i think i would have had a time domain in there and been like listen like you only get two attempts or one attempt or or if it's not would have had a time domain in there and been like, listen, like you only get two attempts or one attempt. Or if it's not going to be a time domain, it's going to be an attempt number. I just thought the games this year had too many little like tricks, I guess is the only way to really put it. And if you figured out the trick, a lot of times you did better in the workout. And I don't think that's what the CrossFit Games is about. It's about finding the fittest human beings on earth.

I don't think doing a fucking jump rope where you switch your arms back and forth has anything to do with being athletic. And that's who did well in the workout if you didn't figure out how to switch your arms back and forth on a jump rope, I think that is a little silly in my eyes. I think you could, you could figure out a better way to put jump roping into a workout if that's what you want to do. Um, so I don't know. Yeah. I had a, I had a hard time with some of the workouts this

year. I just thought that there was too many, like i'm okay with having one or two of those hey you got to figure it out too you got to get a show that you're um able to adapt but it shouldn't be and i felt like there's just too too many of them this year there were there were definitely a lot of new things introduced uh mike mccaskey i thought someone took offense to calling things gay listen if you're calling nick matthews gay because you think uh that that shirt is a courtship tool for to court other men then it's the proper use of the word gay if you just don't like the rims on someone's car and you call them gay then what you're insinuating is that i'm hooking up with other men is bad and that's the part i don't like like just use the word right but do i think a crop top is a way of courting other for when a man wears that that's a way of courting other men is bad and that's the part i don't like like just use the word right but do i think a crop top is a way of courting other for when a man wears that that's a way of courting other men

to slam you in the ass i do so i think then it's used properly and i'm okay with that yeah it's my um it's just my i'll tell you what how old are you a 50 dude that hairline is looking good bro i'm gonna be 51 here uh in a few days i'm i'm proud of you with that hairline thank you it comes with other hair i could see that my kids the other day i was walking around the house with my shirt off they're like can we shave your back one of my kids in particular i'm like yeah go for it oh man you let him let him go six-year-old yeah two six-year-olds with like a phillips one electric razor just for fucking 20 minutes just laughing their ass off how proud would you be if you like walked walked over to the mirror and like

you know to look and look back to see what they did and they fucking shaved their dick and balls i would have been so proud so proud anything you've shaved the word bitch on my back i'd have been so proud yeah draw drew sawsquatch with my hair yeah uh hey dude i had him uh shave me on on on my bed and then my wife's like i I'm like, hey, the boy shaved my back. It was ridiculous. And she goes, oh, where? I'm like, oh, fuck. Nailed it. And I'm like on the bed.

She's like, what'd you do with the hair? But I just like swept it off. Like a scumbag. That didn't go over well. Did you watch the Chrisris rock special no um there's something in there there's there's two two things i was i was that made me uh topics i wanted to bring up with you what was uh where was it on uh netflix it's good it's worth watching okay It's good. It's worth watching. Okay. It's worth watching. It's new. Okay. One of the things he says in there, Josh, is that there's – that we're people – people want attention, right?

And I started thinking of these two ideas of like getting attention. Attention for attention's sake and then attention for like you know doing shit and like attention for attention's sake is is something that i avoid for like the plague like you know what i mean like i don't want to go out and anyone to stare at me unless like i'm juggling six balls you know what i mean or yeah you are like i want to be i want to i want to control the attention i get i want to perform i want to be a monkey performing monkey i don't want attention for fucking attention's sake yeah right um and so the four ways he talks about getting attention which i thought was fascinating was in this order he said them uh show your ass

right and so we're seeing that right yeah and we're seeing that um we're seeing that you know especially around a lot of the female athletes like they're kind of like torn between showing their ass and not but but we'll get to some of the other two the other one is um infamy and that's a tough one to have attention for. That's like what happened to Paris Hilton, right? And the Kardashians, the sex tape comes out. So then now you're infamous, right? Or like they're shooting up a school.

Right. So you have show your ass. You have infamy. You have three be the best in the world at something, right? Serena Williams. Yep. Right? Just fucking just fucking interesting person are you just picking women right now uh no not i'm not on purpose but uh just let me think of a dude who's uh um tiger woods tiger woods yeah there you go dustin hoffman right um i'm trying to think of do we have an actor you know what I mean?

Is there anyone who's like someone who's contributed something just insanely to society? Brian Sean Tosh. There you go. Right? Yeah, Tosh. Tosh. Got to hang out with him the other day. He hasn't shown his ass, but he's done some stuff to become infamous, and he's done some stuff to make himself super make himself uh super talented right at what he does

and then and then what was the fourth one uh maybe someone uh show your ass infamy super oh play the victim victim there we go that's a victim that's a big one these days that's like a badge of honor people want to be victims so like um jesse uh juicy smollett do you know who that is yeah i heard that i read and i read the story how he wanted to be the face of uh what was it maybe gay men no like basic racism maybe racism like it was something like that yeah he wanted to be the face of it he hired two black dudes yeah at one in the morning to like like foreign black dudes, like from Africa. Right. To put a noose around him, call him a faggot, and then – but then the whole thing ended up being a setup because he wanted attention for a victim. So what do you think is the worst one?

Or sorry, go ahead. Let me let you – No, no, go ahead. Go ahead. We can – I was going to talk to you about i want to this eventually we'll get to our boys yeah like what are we gonna like but but but we'll get there in a second um i was i really when i started thinking about this i started thinking about um when i heard it i immediately thought of danny spiegel she shows her ass um she plays the victim and she's crazy talented i don't know if you've seen this new

tear campaign but it's all about just playing the victim. It's kind of funny, but they couch it in terms of women empowerment. But I was thinking if she released a sex tape, she would have all four. She plays the victim? Danny, I think so, yeah. There's this – she has this whole video out. I mean I can give you a million examples, but she has this whole video out where she says, don't judge a woman for her body.

Judge what the body can do. And it's like, I'll judge it for fucking both. But what's this that you have this thing against beautiful bodies. And ever since I've been a girl, I've been told what to eat, how to talk, how to act,

how to behave. And it's also, it's like, so of all the boys, like, but, but it's couching it. And this is like,

it's putting women in this like victim role. It like dude we're so far beyond that it's just fucking people here like yeah i mean i think i think right now in society being a victim is a badge of honor right i mean if you look at uh the blm if you look at there's so many different everyone wants to be a victim right and it's's just – it's absolutely insane to me why anybody would ever want to be a victim instead of just like taking a hold of your life and going after whatever you want and stop pointing the finger outwards and pointing it inward, like backward. Especially amazing people like her. Like she is fucking amazing. Her body's insane, how it looks, how it functions, her smiles, her presence, her posture. Why not make a three minute video just telling us how great you are and how you got there? Yeah. I mean,

it's, it's, it's crazy to me, right. Instead of being, I'm not where I am because of whatever reason that you want to pick and choose from, you know, why not go after, Hey, like, look where I am because of whatever reason that you want to pick and choose from, you know, why not go after, Hey, like, look where I am. Look, this is how I got here. Um, I agree, man. It's weird. I think it's insane. I have no idea. Like everyone could pick something and point the finger out and be like, this is not, this is where I'm at because of this and not point it back at yourself and say, this is where I'm at because of this and not point it back at yourself and say this is where i'm at because of me because of some choice that i made in some aspect of my life um it's insane it's absolutely insane there were there was a there was i don't want to name

names but during your reign in crossfit there were other small athletes who used the small card and you never used the small card that was they leaned on it they lived on it yeah they wanted their excuse right there was is there is their excuse yeah i remember it was their shirt i mean dan or um dave would come to me and he he would look at me and be like oh the athletes are some athletes are bitching because either the weights were too heavy or the box was too – whatever excuse that a short person can make. Where fucking CrossFit, like at its core, man, there is some advantage to being short in this sport. And I would look at them and be like, fucking make them heavier. Make the boxes higher.

I don't fucking care. I want to beat people at what they don't ever assume me to be good at. So I don't know. I just, I, I've used it to fuel instead of actually using it as a fucking crutch ever. Right. Like no one's ever going to fucking not want me on their team because I'm short, you know, like ever since that was always, since I was a little kid, man, I just remember always thinking like these fucking big dudes aren't going to be better than me because they're tall fuck that let me let me show you

this to say something crazy positive about um the crossfit games too look at this uh look at this leaderboard here you got uh the medium-sized dude jeffrey adler in first place i think you got the giant dude tola and then you got the fucking-sized dude, Jeffrey Adler, in first place. You got the giant dude, Tola. And then you got the fucking midget, Cole. That's some impressive shit. That's an impressive list of dudes. Yeah, it is. Look, you got a black dude.

You got a Jew. And you got a Canadian. I mean, they got all the diversity here. French-Canadian, too. Who would have thought? Right, right. All you need's a woman in here and we're set i got sam down there corian yeah corn via look at i mean it's a great you got

the juiced up dude ricky got in there has he come on the show yet and told you how to how gotten any tips from hillar uh you know he needs to i love uh have you met ricky yeah of course yeah he's great i mean i competed against him yeah he's been on here a couple times i gotta have him on here more i don't understand why ricky goes on any other shows he comes on this show i fucking like make him look like a king just softball questions beautiful love on him yeah i make him look like a king. Just softball questions. Beautiful. Love on him. I make him seem like an intellectual giant. And then he goes on these other shows and he just comes across like an alligator.

What shows is he on? I don't know. I'm not saying. You don't want to talk about him? Oh, that's weird. I like how you put my picture up on whatever Instagram or whatever the fuck you put it up on. And you've got Paper Street Coffee as I'm holding my good dude's cup i took it off i just said i changed the title to the last good dude there you go i like it yeah i didn't i sometimes i don't come up with these um

um these titles a wad zombie it's just how danny copes with her white privilege i understand i understand oh god um uh trish uh josh i need a model for my senior citizen art class will you be my model my husband ron will be your fluffer let's make you infamous 4.99 five bucks i'm in truck uh del vasur good dudes. Good morning. Josh, so this takes me to our kids, which I was thinking. We should be giving them tools that are lifelong tools, right? That kind of won't erode. And sometimes I think all this physical shit is like that shit erodes, right? I mean, there's value.

No. this physical shit is like that shit erodes right i mean there's value no like maybe there should be a more premium on playing the flute and speaking spanish and working out than working out no no working out is your health man like i think i think that you should be a well-rounded person so i don't think playing an instrument is a bad thing, but I don't think you should ever neglect your health. And I think that working out is so good for you. I think that we have to emphasize more on working out. It doesn't have to be high intensity as CrossFit, but I think moving, you know, like I don't think we should ever neglect that. Like, I don't think we should ever neglect that. Could you imagine if you didn't work out or didn't do things, the, the, the limited amount of shit you could be able to do around your house by yourself?

Like, give me an example. Like take the ladder out, put it up and climb it. Like fucking move a chair, like move like a bigger chair, you know, like, not like a kitchen table chair, but like move a chair. Like yesterday I had to fucking move the i got um like a storage kettlebell and dumbbell rack in my garage the fucking thing weighed 100 pounds and it was awkward right i had to pick it up by myself and move it but like if i didn't work out or didn't use have physical strength like it would have sat there all day until i had a buddy be able to come

over and pick it up with me you know like i don't know man i think that the uh i think we should put more emphasis on working out i think it should be a fucking mandatory thing that every person has to do every day and you know it's funny as we take that shit for granted i was actually looking at a picture uh the other day it was last night of me walking around with my wife on my shoulders yeah and i was like oh shit i bet you so many fucking people can't do that no can't put their fucking wife on their shoulders and walk around right i agree it's crazy man i i just have been thinking man i need to make sure i give them skills outside of i mean i you know jujitsu tennis and skateboarding like i need to really and they do they play the piano a lot and but i was like man i need to even like

i need to make sure that they have a insane grasp on grammar and math in those same ways because those are tools regardless of your situation your physical situation or your age or your sickness or whatever they're they're still usable yeah i agree i think that i don't think that only being physically fit is the only thing you should teach children you know i mean i think make him try to make him good humans um well that too you know right kids good kids they're great kids it's like i see other kids and i'm not like trying to like no tell me my kids are the best they're not but they're they're so well-mannered they're so well respected that like they just like respectful they uh yeah they're just great kids man like yeah and they're my older one is start you know he's 12 he's about to be 13

and he's starting to get that testosterone coming in. And, you know, he'll, he probably backtalks his mom a little more than he talks to me, but he knows aren't disrespectful to their teachers for the most part. Here and there, they'll get a little rowdy, right? Every 12-year-old kid is going to test the waters and see what they can get away with. They're just great kids. I don't know, man. I was at a basketball game the other day. And in between halves, it was my son's basketball tournament. And in between halves, right, all the kids are with their coaches.

They get their two minutes or three minutes or whatever. And all these other kids swarm the basketball court and start shooting baskets. Well, you know, they're not oftentimes, a lot of times because they're younger kids. And the refs are like get off the court get off the court and this fucking little punk kid man i don't know how old he was probably probably 13 he's like oh simple please and thank you would be advice like that's what he said back to the adult referee and it's like hey you little shit why the fuck does he need to say please and thank you to you for to tell you

not to do something you're not supposed to be doing you know like like the way you just like smart ass back like i don't know like in front of everyone right everyone gets to see it i looked at him and i was like who am i i was just like who the fuck do you think you are you're just some little like just listen to what he says you know i don't know it just it got under my skin did you see his parents no i didn't i didn't oh yeah i've been i've what i notice about kids too is just um how disruptive they are so you know i take my kids to a lot of these classes and there's always new kids filtering in and out right and there's there's kids who can sit against the wall and focus and then there's kids who can't they can't stop touching other kids they can't fuck stop

talking they can't stop spinning around they i mean zero folks and i'm not talking about just normal kid shit but like i know they don't have a good like you should have a social fear when you walk into a situation i don't fear is not the right word anxiety a desire to fit in like right when you come in your goal shouldn't be you should feel some sort of empathy and understanding for the situation, right? Like you don't just join a softball team and it's from more so the parenting in the sense of how they allow their kids to speak to them, or do you think it's nutrition? Yeah, it's fucking absolutely – it's both. And let me throw this one thing in there. There's a parent like for every day for like two weeks brought a puppy into a jiu-jitsu class and would let the puppy run out onto the mats yeah and i i you know part of me someone was like well hey that's the instructor's fault but the complete like i'm just like you know all people

do in here all day is roll around in here right hundreds of people and you let a dog on here that's guaranteed at some point that's going to pee and shit in here are you out of your are you i seriously think that those people are retarded like whatever clinically like they have a sub uh you know whatever it is 68 iq or whatever right like how how do you not understand it's like it's like there was a black belt um at the other gym i used to go to and he would let his son walk through the gym with an ice cream cone it's so fucking inappropriate like can't you just see this is this is not a place for a fucking ice cream cone and i and and how do you not see that right so i

mean i don't know if it's nutrition or bad parenting but i just i think it's both i think i mean i think it's both i just i'm just wondering which which is worse right like i think if you give your kid a coke before class you hate your kid you've got him on caffeine and sugar you hate your you allow your kid to drink soda you probably hate your kid i don't think my don't worry everyone else hates them too by the way i you know i'll let my kids drink sprite every blue moon and like you know my kids know how much i hate mcdonald's and fast food joints and yeah here and there we'll get we don't we're not i'm not perfect trust me like i but man like since i've started this carnivore diet like i've seen

how much it's affected me my my mood my lethargy like taking away like my taking away my anxiety what that was the craziest thing i've had anxiety since i was very young like probably high school or middle school example what do you mean like social settings speak no well public speaking for sure um but no i would just get anxiety like i would just like feel like i was gonna die like i had these like overwhelming like feelings like i was gonna die um like i was having something wrong with me um and i and i know it was just something that I was eating, right? It was something eating because the moment I went to like the carnivore where it's fruit, I removed the greens.

I removed nuts. I removed, you know, all that crap, all that processed shit. And like, I haven't, I think I've had anxiety like one time in the past year. And I used to get it pretty regularly. Like, give me an example like you'd wake up and be like i don't feel good i need to go to the doctor i would just be like i think i might die today you know like i would have this like i don't know it was like almost like um an electric wire inside of my body right i felt like wired and like this didn't i don't

know i just had these like bad feelings like i was like oh this isn't good like my body feels weird right now. I feel like something's happening and I would have it pretty often. And a lot of times it was either, I know more than once a week. Oh yeah. I would say probably two to three times a week. Oh, that's stressful as fuck. Yeah.

And it was, and you know, I, I, I learned to understand what it was, you know, pretty young. I'd be like, okay okay i'm just having this anxiety i'm not really dying but off the bat that's where my head went and um once i just like went to this style of eating i've also like the other thing caffeine dude i um i had do you know who jorge fernandez is the name sounds familiar but I can't he's an Invictus dude cool as shit you would oh yeah yeah I know you guys really like each other yeah yeah okay I knew I knew he sounded familiar he quit caffeine because that shit fucking said he gave me anxiety

just quit no caffeine for him yeah I mean I could see it for sure I have I don't I only do I get my caffeine done by by 9, 9.30 now. I have one cup, and then I'll have an espresso after breakfast, and then that's it. And I'm done with caffeine by like 9.30. That's impressive. You don't do pre-workout? I've never done pre-workout, ever. No shit?

Mm-mm. Yeah. You just go out and work out just raw dog? Just glass of water, maybe some electrolytes? Yeah, I do some yep yeah but yeah i've never not never done i've never done pre-workout ever maybe i took what maybe i took a something to high school like once just because like somebody else i was with try had it but i don't ever like i never was like oh i like this so yeah always caffeine just just coffee or two i mean when i was training heavy i would do a coffee at like two o'clock in the afternoon and i knew that was fucking

with my sleep but i didn't care i had like i needed it to work out again yeah totally fucks with your sleep hey so so going back so how so you think you got on the carnivore and now you're not gonna die now i don't don't think I'm going to die very often. Yeah, that's awesome. No, it's crazy, man. And I've gotten fever blisters, you know, like on lips or whatever, like since I was a kid. And like, I mean. I've never seen you with those.

You get them on the inside? No, I get them on the outside. To be honest, I remember having a lot at the games. I mean, I remember 16, I had one like going there because you just stress right like stress oh oh right right like shingles or like that shit just some stress related yeah and but then like and so i but i would get them every month or two right i'd get one and since carnivore same thing man haven't gotten one it's been over a year you know i think i think i started going pretty strict um december of it was like right after we had paul saladino on the podcast crazy yeah so it's been talked to any other carnivore

guys besides him no since then are you in touch with him here and there i'll text with him but not very often he's got he's he's so big now you know he's too big for me he's definitely not too big for you how badly did matt um how badly did you think matt seeked out nunez to train him or is he i thought she's just jumping on the hwpo is she she part of the HWPO program now? Do you know? I'm going to assume that might be what you're talking about. Yeah, that might be the right. I saw a video. I didn't watch the whole thing.

He's at her facility. I didn't get to the end where it shows them rolling. But all I heard was that – by the way, she looks fucking amazing in that video. She looks fucking great. Nunez? Yeah, fuck yeah fuck she looks amazing does she have a fight coming up honestly i don't know i don't know either i think she has to she rematched and got the belt back right she's yeah yeah she's a champ yeah she's a champ yeah yeah she took it back from uh who was it penya penya yeah penya so um but but then i heard that you know how they i think matt has like a um like different verticals now like you if you want to do crossfit and golf golf you you you hang out with scott stalling and i think it's if you want to do crossfit and

fight you're gonna do nunez i don't know for sure that makes sense yeah do you know anything about that i don't i don't know anything about it no sorry i wish i could give you your five no i don't i don't wish i could uh jeremy world uh mandate fitness it enhances everything else you do fair enough fact see if i missed anyone down here i don't um i see a question over there uh i don't um i see a question over there uh josh do you ever need to add oatmeal or any extra carbs what i do i still eat sweet potatoes that's the only sweet potatoes with um butter and man stop cooking cooking with the oils right like i don't cook with any oils i cook with butter and tallow and that's it hey what kind of

butter do you cook with the grass fed yeah is it in a tub or is it the block sticks sticks sticks yeah my wife just switched to something in a tub she something in the sticks freaked her out i'll find out and ask her oh yeah yeah send it to me let me hear it um so no greens or fruits at all i eat fruits no i eat fruit i don't eat greens so greens. So I do like what Paul does where it's like meat, all red meat. I don't eat chicken. I rarely eat fish, only if it's wild caught typically, even though wild caught tastes so much worse than the farm shit, salmon. But I only eat that maybe once every two weeks, three weeks. And then it's almost – it's always just red meat and then fruit.

And so I have a lot of fruit and honey and eggs. Bruce, something happened with the ghee. I got to ask – maybe I'll ask – maybe I can call my wife and ask her. Something happened with the ghee, and we just stopped using ghee around the house. I don't know what, but she read something, and ghee's gone. Yeah, I don't use – I have – we have ghee in the house the house i don't know what but she read something and ghee's gone yeah i uh i don't use i have we have ghee in the house but i don't ever i don't ever use it i use butter or tallow josh how hard was the transition to carnivore david attaway and did you go old turkey i thought i thought it was easy as shit to be honest because it's like if you listen to the diet right it's it is everything

i love i love red meat i love fruit i love honey raw honey i love eggs i love butter like all i really had to cut out was like the sugar right that's that was like the hardest part like not eating cookies and shit but other than that like i only ate vegetables because i thought they were healthy for me when's the last time you had a snicker bar oh fuck probably a few probably a few years i used to i used dude i lived on snicker bars when i was in buds when i was no shit i would buy i would go to costco and buy the 48 pack or 50 pack of snicker bars i'd throw them in the freezer and every day i'd leave for training and i would literally throw three in my pocket and i so brooke wells is on to something oh she eats snicker bars

she's sponsored by him oh fuck yeah i mean i don't think they're good i don't think they're good for you in any way or shape or form but like when when I was in, when I was there, I mean, it was like, I loved it too. And I, every time I opened one, I was like, oh, would you ever eat two in a day? I would eat three or four a day. Holy shit, dude. Yeah. I mean, and then like, but man, like when you get a little older, right? Brooke's still pretty young.

How old is she? Like in her mid, she's in her mid 20s. 17. Probably like 28, you know, 27. Yeah. Like,

man, like I didn't start feeling any of that shit until I was like 34, 35, 36. And then you start, all that shit starts coming back. Dude, I just fucking had to extend my belt recently to a fucking another hole.

That's it. That's probably the booze there, pal. You booze. Maybe I, I, I'm not even eating that much.. You booze your booze. Maybe. I'm not even eating that much. I don't even eat that much. Yeah.

Just fitty. It's just fitty. Body composition. It must be all the deadlifts. Yeah. Could be. I cut out bread and pasta and went from 205 to 185. Rice is not a good carb. you know neither are any of those veggies

except i started feeling sweet potatoes why not rice everyone that's gonna break people's heart well isn't rice covered in fucking like um the what they spray on it right is not good for you all right so so sweet potatoes you you have a vegetable brush do you have like one of those brushes that you you a vegetable brush no i don't know what that is okay well let's look it up you need a vegetable brush yeah let me look it up for you um vegetable brush natural we need a natural one use a vegetable brush and i'm kind of proud that i use a vet. Oh, this is exactly the one I have. The red pecker. Here we go. Coconut fiber, vegetable cleaning brush. I'm so glad I can add value to your life. You've added so much value to my life, Josh. So, so basically I've been using this thing for years.

So anything I'm going to eat, that looks like the old, that looks like the old toilet brush thing, just without the handle. Totally. Totally. I agree. And I basically, anything that I'm going to put in my mouth that comes from the fridge, I basically wiped. I rubbed that on it first. And I've been doing that for years. And one of the reasons recently, I'm like, oh, I'm so glad I've been doing that. And I don't know if this is true, but there's a video going around on Instagram where it shows a guy showing that you can't get chemicals that are sprayed onto fruits and vegetables off just by washing them i can see that because the ph of the water that comes out of our tap doesn't make those chemicals water soluble yeah and so he basically shows you washing a fruit in one kind of ph water and then another kind of ph water and then you look at the

fallout and one of them has is fucking a different color because it got all the chemicals off so but i bet you this brush does it this brush is badass yeah it's interesting i um most of the vegetable or i'm sorry most of the fruits that i eat so i do eat blueberries right uh yeah which that would be you know something where you eat the skin but like i peel my wife crushes those i eat uh i eat oranges i eat bananas ate pineapple um you had a whole $5.99 basket at one sitting a blueberry $6.99 organic basket easily easily you ever go to you ever feel bad you're like i just ate $12 worth of berries dude it's like eating carnivore isn't the cheapest diet man like i mean meat right now is insane i mean it's and i eat two pounds of meat every day minimum like two pounds like you're a savage i ate a pound at lunch and a pound pound

at dinner uh thank god i got to kill you know kill a bison and i had 400 pounds of meat so 200 days of food yeah exactly my math skills that was so quick man that was nailed you nailed it uh so yeah before i read what this guy wrote you have to understand do you know who this is My math skills. That was so quick, man. That was nailed. You nailed it. So yeah, before I read what this guy wrote, you have to understand, do you know who this is? This guy? Yeah, I know who Jim is. I talk to him all the time. Okay.

Not a normal workout. Yeah, he's doing the hero workout every day for 365 days after he did Murph for 365 days straight. Yeah, great dude. And Nutty Murph. Nutty Murph. Weird Murph. Yeah. Okay. do you feel like there's a limit and still doing the main site do you feel like there's a limit to the time

domain you can train before lack of cards carbs becomes an issue have you noticed power output decrease i noticed at first i had to make i had to adjust and i had to really up my fruit um or i would um i would crash a little bit. Yeah. And I definitely wouldn't feel as strong, but, um, do you blend anything, Josh? Do you blend in? No, no, I don't do the frozen fruit. I've thought about it. I just haven't done it yet. I haven't pulled the trigger on it. I just do everything's fresh right now, but I had about milk. I don't do milk. I tried to do the raw dairy. I tried to do some raw milk. I found a farm out here next to me and it just still upset my stomach a lot. So I had to stop. And it didn't, it did take me a little bit to adjust to the diet. I think, I think my body

had to realize it now, man, I have no issues whatsoever. And I never get tired throughout the day. Like I'll, I used to crash so hard after lunch. Now I'm like, good to go. Like I have no issues with it and I'm still training pretty damn hard. Like I do more than most, I would say. Why for your mental health? I just love it. Yeah.

I love it. And right now, I mean, my sole focus, one of my, one of my big focuses is my programming and I'm always testing workouts, trying to figure out, you know, playing with things because, I mean, I obviously I have a lot of knowledge from when I competed and when I trained for the military, but man, like I'm still testing what like stimuluses and figuring out, okay, is this movement necessary or how could I make this better? You know, like I'm always trying to grow and get better. There it is, baby.

Get them programs. Is this new? Yeah, it's newer. Well, I had to, I, uh, we changed the website. We changed the website. And so, yeah, that's what I meant. Sorry. Not, I know you've been doing programming forever, but I mean,

and it's because we went to the fitter app. And now we have an app and, uh, so these are all brought to you on a fitter app. Um, and so, yeah, we, uh, we made the change to the website because the website, the website used to be where you actually got your programming. Now you order here and then you go through the fitter app. This is cool. This is a nice website thanks man hey i was actually going to ask you does any part of you um is is there um something that you where you're kind of maybe thinking considering hand holding an athlete um through a games experience i would think about it you know i would definitely, do you know what I,

you know what I mean by that? Right. Like, like kind of like what I'm doing now. Yeah. Would you consider like, for sure? I would, I would,

I think it'd be cool. Um, you would do that. Someone lived by you. You would fucking, I got a fucking, I got a fucking apartment above my garage. You know,

like you have time for that. You think to that, you think, to make a beast? I think so. Would they hate you? Yeah. They wouldn't like me. I think we'd get along really well. But I think it would be fun, man. I think it would be cool.

A boy or a girl? I could care less. Yeah. I'd probably – yeah, I don probably I yeah I don't care I don't care um I think I could I think I think what if they do good and it becomes a five-year commitment I think I could take someone far really yeah I think that uh I don't know. I, I, um, I just, I was so, I, I, I seeked out recovery really well, right? Like, I think that programming does have a big part of it and, um, it's huge, but I also seek that recovery and it was just such a big part of who I was. And I don't think many people do that.

part of who I was. And I don't think many people do that. And I think that's why you see the fast in and out of CrossFit, right? You see people come do it for a year or two and then they're out, right? Because their bodies just get so broken down. And man, like if you really want to be in this game for a long time, you have to seek out the recovery options that we have or that they're there that are out there um and so yeah i just i think that uh it'd be fun you know do you think that your wife could handle the um intimacy that you would have with with an athlete regardless if they're male or female just the time the emotion that you'd be giving to them the you think she'd do good at that it's a good question i don't know i think i think she could i think she'd probably understand i think

that you know she understands who i i was as an athlete um who i am as a person right uh it'd be a it'd be a big time commitment i mean it'd be a job right it's a legitimate thing right because you see these coaches that have had these fucking intense fucking connections with their fucking athletes. Like you see Max Elhaj out there with fucking Noah and Travis Mayer, and there's a fucking intense connection or Ben Bergeron and Katrin. I mean, they fucking look like a married couple fucking out there when you'd be at the games with her, the way they'd look at each other. And there's endless examples of that, right? For sure. I mean, just think of it. You didn't play sports as a kid, right? I mean, I grew up in like my- Hardly. Josh, let me rephrase. I never played sports, period.

Yeah. I mean, like I still think like my high school coach, high school wrestling coach, man. Like I love the guy. He was awesome. And he meant the world to me. me and there were it wasn't just me and him you know it was me and 50 or 60 other people on the wrestling program but man like he made it feel like you know you were his son yeah and it was it was awesome. And so I can only imagine the level that it gets to when it's just you and one – you and one athlete or you and two athletes. Like how intense that can get.

And it is. It's like a father-son scenario. As crazy as it sounds, if – and it's easy for me to say this here if i i guess i could just even use this podcast my commitment to this podcast is god this is going to sound so weird this is not going to come across right sending let's get weird let's get awkward party too my commitment to this podcast is is bigger than my commitment to my wife and well because my wife is forever i would give up this podcast for my wife in a second do you know what i mean like um no question but like um if my if

my wife was like hey i really need to i really want to start having breakfast with you i'd be like fuck off at 7 a.m podcast time like there's no nothing can come between me and this podcast i can't really explain it and i would feel that way like it would be like that but with my athletes too and so my wife would have to be so fucking confident in who she is yeah and my love for her but in the moment it would always look like she played second fiddle and i would guess like if you have a fucking athlete it's got to be like that because it's their fucking life and you're you're telling them like hey i'm gonna i'm gonna do it for you yeah exactly like it would be it would become a big priority in your life i think you'd have to separate at some point you know to show your wife right you just have to just have to, you would have to put more effort into the relationship afterwards.

Right. When it was, when it became that time. Right. But yeah, like that is a, that is a fucking, that is a gnarly intimate relationship coach athlete for sure.

And I think, and that's giving their life. And so if you, you as a coach, there's a competition there. You're trying to meet that commitment. Right. I mean,

think about it with you and your kids, right? Think about how much, how much trust you're putting into every coach that you allow that to be around your son. You know what I mean? Like, that's a pretty, like, I think about it often, man. Like these, I remember every one of my coaches growing up and they had big parts. Like it was such a big thing at the time of my life, like how important it felt and how I needed, I had, and I had great coaches and like some of them were just random guys who, you know, were coaching their kids baseball team. But man, they, like they, the way they treated you, the way they talked to you, it was, it was, it was so, it shaped me who I was, you know?

Right. And I think about it now with my kids and I'm like, man, like, and I, I, I talk to my kids' coaches, you know, I have conversations with them. I, I like send them, I send them things that I read to help me make me a better parent, parent, coach, parent slash coach. And I'll send stuff to my kids' coaches and be like, Hey man, this is no disrespect. And I don't, I'm not saying you're a bad coach. I'm just always learning. And I thought this was a cool read and I want to share this with you. Right. Right. You know? And so, because it is, it's like how they talk to my, my sons is going to shape my kids in a certain way. There was this thing a few months ago that I was like fixated on that. I wanted to try to

explain to people in my group and on this podcast that I'm in competition with all of my kids' coaches. And if I'm winning, then I want to get rid of the coach. And I was having trouble explaining what that is. And then finally this happened to my wife and this is the perfect example to explain it. We were going on, um, uh, we were going somewhere for 10 days. I think we were going out to Arizona to visit Greg for 10 days. And my wife was like, text me. She's like, fuck. She's like, I go, what? And she goes, I'm at tennis with Avi and I'm fucking, I'm scared to tell the coach we're going to be gone for 10 days. I was like, yeah, that means he's winning. coach, we're going to be gone for 10 days. I was like, yeah, that means he's winning. Right. And that's what I want. You should be terrified to tell your coach. You should feel such a commitment from the coach to your kid that you taking your kid away makes you a jackass.

You're taking away your coach's tool to do his craft. Right. And it's like, and you should feel weird if you bring your kid late and you should feel weird if you bring your kid late and you should feel weird if you don't bring your kid appropriately dressed and you should feel weird if you don't bring your kid warmed up because that means you feel some obligation to the coach that he set this precedent that he cares enough about your kids you you want to be the weakest link if i get there and the coach is fucking 10 minutes late and he's fucking around and he hasn't and he doesn't give me stuff for my kids to do when they go home to work on fuck you like like i want the coach to be telling me stuff to do that i'm feeling bad that we didn't work on um when i come back to the next class like i want the coach to be winning because they i want them and so taking that back to what

you are saying you have to match your your athlete like that and if you get some fucking crazy fucking athlete like matt fraser right that's just 100 in that's going to be hard to fucking match yeah it's gonna be sorry honey i'm not i know it's your birthday right but fucking the games are in two weeks sorry i mean it's like that it is it is right it's yeah it's it's definitely it's a it's it's a commitment crying on your athlete's shoulder i'm sorry oh my wife's really mad at me fuck you they don't they're not gonna care they don't care about okay about your fucking problems when you're an athlete in the same way like when i was a seal when i was an athlete like everything was about me everything was about how can i be better how can i do this better and it was that was it And like, and it was hard being a dad, you know, cause I was a dad the entire time I

competed, but when I was in the gym, it was about me and that was it and everything else until I got out of the gym. And then I gave my kids all the attention that they deserved, right? Like everything that everything was about them. It was no longer about me anymore. Yeah. I had to get a little bit of recovery in here and there, but like, it was just about, it was about them. And like, that's how you, it was no longer about me anymore yeah i had to get a little bit of recovery in here and there but like it was just about it was about them and like that's how you it was hard it was so hard to uh to do that and but i mean it also it gave me my peace of mind where i think if i didn't have

them i would have sat and just like thought about what i should be doing you know what i'm saying so like i didn't hate it. I actually, it helped me compartmentalize. A healthy distraction you could also be fully committed to. I mean, obviously you're as committed to your kids as anything. Yeah. It was, it was a, you know, I could compartmentalize, right? I was like, okay, when I'm in the training, when I'm in training mode, it's all about training. It's all it's about. And then when I am with my kids, it's all about them. It was, you know, the way I

handled it, at least. Do you see what I'm saying, though, going back to the coaches thing? That there should be that. There should be that. It's tying back to what you're saying. I'm letting you see my kids. You better bring your fucking A game. Yeah, 100%.

If they're not putting in effort. Man, I pulled my younger son off a baseball team last year because I went to one of the practices and I was like, my kid deserves better than this, especially for what I was paying for him to be playing on this team. And I was like, this coach is like treating this, like it's recess time. Like he was, I'm like, I'm like, this isn't recess time. I'm like, you're here to make my son a better athlete and show him how to play the game. Yes. You can make it fun, but you athlete and show him how to play the game. Yes. You can make it fun, but you're not showing him how to play the game.

You're doing your dilly dally and doing some bullshit. And I'm paying a pretty good amount of money. And I, and I was just like, yeah, just like got bad vibes from the guy. So I pulled him off the team. What did you do?

Did you put him on a different team? I did. I put, well, I put, I, I made him golf with me because, uh,

because it was already too late to put them on a, like a did i put i well i put i i made him golf with me because uh because it was already too late to put him on a like a different baseball team at the time and so i put him on to a oh that's awesome you and you just took instead of going baseball practice you went golfing with him yeah exactly so he golfed dude that's dope yeah it was cool it was a cool experience for us so we got you know him just just because it's normally all three of us, right? Me and both boys. And so it was just me and my little guy. Yeah. And it was good.

It was, you know, I got some good quality time with him. And so it was, it turned out. Don't be afraid to pull your kids out, people. Seriously. If you see something you don't like, just do it. Just do it. Don't be a pussy either though. There's also parents are like the coach is too hard on my kids.

Shut the fuck up. It wasn't. Yeah. I would, I actually like the fuck down. I like it when the coaches get, get hard on them. And I tell my boys every time that they do, I'm like, listen, man, like that means that coach cares. If he didn't care, he wouldn't be hard on you.

He would just, he would basically probably just ignore you. Right. But if your coach is actually like getting on you, that means he knows that you you're capable of more than what you're showing. Yeah. And so that's how you have to look at it. Don take offense to it listen to what he's saying a coach is picking on my kid too much why is the teacher always picking on my kid yeah yeah matt burns stevie asked him if he would do carnivore that's you him uh josh bridges if he would do carnivore if he

was still competing i would eat more more fruit and more sweet potatoes but i think i would i would stick to eating more red meat i wouldn't i wouldn't eat vegetables i yeah pretty much i would just have to what about the snicker bars if you could go back in time would you still eat those no seriously wow i'm surprised you said i thought you'd be like fuck yeah i just i don't know man i look at it i know i grew up eating shit right i'm pleasantly surprised though that you're saying this i um i look back and i don't know if i'd eat like i would just have to eat more i'd have to eat a lot more but i think i would man i really do. I don't know. I would, I don't know. I just,

I feel like I have less inflammation in my body. I feel better. I recover. I'm recovering still. Well, almost 40 years old. I'm like, man, I don't know why I would go back and put the nuts and the fucking vegetables back in. Like that was shit was obviously was making, had something to effect of obviously the anxiety and the fever blisters and things like that. And like, I don't'm just like i don't i don't think it was i don't think it was the right thing um i i wonder if then you'd have to blend more food too like if you had to eat more you would just be fucking eating more powders more blend just trying to drink your food down if you needed more calories yeah i mean and adding more meat you know like i probably would have to eat a little more protein a third pound like a third pound what i know, like I probably would have to eat a little more protein.

A third pound? Like a third pound. What do you mean a little more? You'd have to eat a third fucking pound. Yeah, probably a third pound. You're right. Yeah, I'd probably have to eat three pounds. And like up my eggs.

It would be an expensive diet. I'm telling you. If you go to a fast food place, what do you get? Do you just get, if you have to stop at a Burger King or a McDonald's, what do you eat? I don't if you if you if you like if you have to stop at a burger king or mcdonald's what do you what do you eat i don't you just don't i would rather not eat you'd rather just not yeah like i i've got i'm not like crazy about um i'm not like like i'll still eat pizza here with my boys here and there but i just don't eat like a whole pizza like i used to right right i also used to eat pizza like twice a week or once or twice a week you know like it's like a treat

yeah now it's like okay here and there i'll have a i'll have some pizza with the kids because i'm like i'm gonna make them eat healthy so that down the road when i'm not there i'm not the one making the decision on what they're eating that they have that like built into them. Like, Hey, like I'm going to, I need to, I'm trying to instill it into them. Like, Hey, at some point in your life, like you're going to get to choose what you eat. And yes, when you're young, it's going to be hard not to eat like an asshole because I did when I was 20, when I was like right out of the house, like I ate like an asshole because like, because it was like, Hey, it's my choice now. It's decision and it's i'm gonna eat and then i got fat and then i got like unhealthy and then how old were you how old were you early 20s yeah and then right before i like you know joined the military is

when i was like okay i need to stop eating like an asshole all the time like i have to actually make the right decisions here just because i'll feel better. And at the time, you know, I thought vegetables were the, you know, vegetables, chicken. I wasn't eating as much red meat and stuff like that. But like I had, I started to make the decision in my head, like I want to, I want to feel better. And what I'm eating is going to affect that. like mcdonald's isn't the answer fast food isn't the answer right like pop tarts aren't the answer yeah they taste good but man like the long the long game these aren't the play you feed your kids vegetables no no um you know what i've been doing is i go to the um i've been going to the grocery store and i get like just um uh you know like they have like the fruit it's like a sliced pineapple for 6.99 and then you buy two and you get the third one free so you can buy pineapple cantaloupe and watermelon yeah and then i buy them a fucking bag and do you give them nuts i buy my kid a bag of nuts like bag of uh pistachios or bag of macadamia nuts no you

just buy them the fruit fruit fruit they can eat all the fruit they want no no nuts what about peanut butter do you let your kids have peanut butter nope i know well no that's not true i will almond butter no almonds worse almonds are worse than peanut butter really i i think almonds were like almonds are this i yeah they have way too many oxalates that they're i don't think almonds are good for you at all wow interesting okay I stopped doing almonds before I went carnivore and and um tell me tell me so you do but you do you wish that in a perfect world would you not give them peanut butter I don't do it too often do my kids you want to know what my kids eat for fucking lunch they and they go to a public school they don't eat they're not homeschooled or anything

like that I make them a fucking 100% grass-fed sirloin steak for lunch every fucking day wow yeah and you send it to school with them i sent to school i got these little hydro flasks that keep it warm what's it called let me let me what's it called like uh it's like it's like a little yeti it's like a canister for like a like a little Yeti. It's like a canister for like a, like a small Yeti that you put fucking. I'm going to type in steak Yeti. It's like, yeah. What is it? Is it glass?

No, it's, it's like, it's like a Yeti. It's just smaller. It's probably about, it's probably about like that. Oh. And then you just, and it keeps it warm. So you put the steak in a cup, in a coffee cup. Yeah. It keeps it hot.

Wow. Like a thermos. Wow. It's fucking, it's not the easiest thing and it's not the cheapest thing, but my, I'm like, fuck man, I grew up on SpaghettiOs. Like my kids, my kids know what kind of steak they like. You know, they're like, I like bone and ribeye. I'm like, no shit kid.

Every fucking kid does. Everybody, everybody does but like i grew up eating like the you know my favorite fucking meat was the meat that came in spaghettios you know the meat right spaghetti yeah yeah those are great they were amazing um but yeah like i'm like i i have such a hard time knowing how shitty some of that stuff is and giving it to my kids now now that i know you know like how bad it is i'm like fuck i just have such a hard time giving it to them god you're you're a better dude than i thought you were i knew you were a good dude this is crazy shit this is crazy shit i mean but to be honest so i find these sirloin steaks for like they're like eight dollars

and it's almost a pound of meat and i give them each of them half of it so they get they get about half a pound of and it's like five bucks i'm like how do you cook it how do you cook it i just pan sear it every morning i pan sear it in the morning then like pan sear it and then put in the oven for like a couple couple minutes what do they have for breakfast eggs they hate them and i like my my older son hates eggs and i'm like i don't care i'm like if you give me a better alternative of what i can make you that that's not cereal or pancakes you i'll fucking cook it for you but eggs are a superfood buddy how about oatmeal no so just eggs just eggs they get eggs and fruit yeah eggs eggs and fruit little honey i'm gonna

i'm gonna do that i'm gonna go i'm gonna do that today i'm gonna go out and buy like 50 steaks yeah they're not that they're not my wife make the kids eat all these i'm like a five dollar lunch like really like i can't complain about that i'm like that's not a bad that's not bad right josh have you noticed that your diet is boring i find that when i'm full carnivore I have a low appetite and less interest in food. That's what I tell people all the time. I'm like, man, you can't have a fucking relationship with food. Food is not to have a relationship with.

Food is for a fucking fuel. That's what I tell my boys. I'm like, food is your fuel. You put it into your body so that your body can work, and that is it. If you start to build these relationships with certain types of food, that's when that's when you go down like i gotta have uh this cookie i gotta have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich right now just oh man it sounds so good like i could give a shit less what i'm putting in my body as long as it makes my body perform how i want it to perform i this guy i heard this guy say the other day he said, you should just find your fucking diet and eat it and stop fucking thinking about food. It's a waste of fucking emotional and intellectual decision-making and it's fucking ruining your life. And I was like, wow, that like, I, I, I like that. I like that description of it. Cause I just like to be freed up of doing shit.

I don't want to be doing shit. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. So I can do my own shit. You know what I mean? I don't want to be like deciding what I fucking eat every day. He's like, just find your shit and do it. Like, stop like making decisions.

I've been so like decisions. I agree. I was saying only confused people make decisions. You know what's funny is there was a podcast I listened to years ago. No, fuck off. No. Thank you for the $2. Please have Josh on more.

He's a good dude. I listened to this podcast a long time ago about how people don't want to make decisions, like what you're saying, right? And they did this test where they had, um, I think it was like different pasta sauces and they were at some, they're selling pasta sauces and the pasta sauce that only had like three different times to choose from different ones to choose from. Like it was like marinara meat sauce and mushroom. I don't know something like that. I'm totally making this up like the, uh, the kinds, but, and then there was one that had like nine different types of pasta sauce and people would walk up and be like overwhelmed and

they didn't want to make the decision. They wanted to be told what to eat. And so the ones with three pasta sauces did, they sold way more than the one with nine because it was like, no, here it is. This is your three choices. You only, that's all you get when you have nine. It's like, it's too much. I always thought that was really interesting that people just want to be fucking told what to do i don't want to we were remodeling the house once i don't want to like decide what color the kitchen is and what the hardware looks like on the sides and what kind of fucking water spigot i have i don't want to do any of that i i'm a doer i'm not i don't i don't want to fucking make uh fucking decisions decisions are just fucking for idiots like you i just know what to do and i do i'm not

like um i don't i don't i don't have like a something planned for my kids i see the garage and i go go in the garage and they go in there and then while we're in there in real time we feel around next thing you know three hours have passed and we've been getting at it you know what i mean like let someone else fucking make fucking decisions it's a it's um it steals from my from my life it's uh i mean yeah i fucking hate it yeah i mean i agree i think i've been really boring sorry go ahead go ahead go ahead i would say i've been really boring and um with the way that i've eaten and i I just, I think that was just it. It wasn't, it wasn't your life though. Right.

You're like, yeah, I feel exactly like I know what I'm going to eat. It's not like I have to go like, Oh, what am I going to eat tonight? No, it's like, it's going to be a fucking pound of meat and some fruit. And that's your relationship with your wife. Not with your food. Exactly. I care less. Yeah.

It's, um, it's crazy. It's it is, it is actually freeing. I never really thought about it that way it was just how he ate it's like this is it it's how i eat uh seven say something to boswin he's on instead of kissing his ass listen listen listen the best i own my i am i am so fucking loyal to my fucking friends i fucking love adrian bosman i don't give a fuck i don't care if he fucking set hq on fire and burned it down it would be almost impossible for me to say anything bad about him i fucking love him i think he's eminently talented he's been around fucking

forever he's a fucking hard worker i i'm shut it and i don't care. I'm honest to a fault also. So there you go. Yeah. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah. You're a loyal dude. If three people were throwing rocks at cars on the freeway and one of them was Josh, I'd only arrest two. I'd be like, so what? He's my friend. He did it too. I don't care. It's not fair. So what? When I was a kid, I used to throw rocks at cars. I was a shit head. Me too. I was a shit head, man.

Yeah. I don't um adina martinez sniff test josh did your body odor change i hear it changes your natural body odor not sure how true that is i don't think so um not that i know is that if that's I don't think so. Not that I know. I'll ask my lady. Raw milk is gross. Are you kidding me? Raw milk is so good. Raw milk is so good. I loved it. I loved drinking it. Like candy. It just upset my stomach, so I had to stop. I was like, it wasn't worth it. Tug Speedman, I need to start JB programming.

Come on over to the squad um where uh where would he start so you go to you go to the physical programming um or the pay him 30 whichever one you want to do click on it and then it walks you the process of downloading the fitter app and then getting the programming and we start off with a test week to get everyone baselines so that we can show them progression. Say that again. So when you first signed up, you there's like some things there's like a, some things you do to find out.

So like you don't fucking hurt yourself. So you don't get like jump in too deep. No, no, we, we start with a test week, right? So we do,

we give you a base baseline, right? We have, I have a week of testing where you're going to test certain workouts that we're going to come back and retest. And so oh okay okay so that we so we can show progression okay yeah and that well that's for the physical programming if you do like the pay in 30 we just we jump in right into a program what's this unbroken bundle so that's the mental prep and physical programming together right so that's both and that's i think that's the year that's the mental prep and physical programming together. Right. So that's both.

And that's I think that's the year. That's the annual. And so we go through a process of helping people like kind of basically how I have lived and dealt with what I guess some people would call mental struggles throughout my life as being a seal as in CrossFit just in life in general and just kind of give them tips and to help and it becomes like a um like you got you go in and you write down you give us answers there's almost like questions and and then answers type of situation there right so you can help relate it to your life if that makes sense is it are they videos are they written written yeah look how thick you are here in this camo short video you're fucking a hoss

i've actually lost five pounds i finally stepped on a scale not that long ago i always walked around about 170 172 especially during uh crossfit and then um since i i haven't stepped on a scale in a year i stepped on one couple weeks ago or three weeks ago and i weighed 165 yeah you look fucking awesome you look in your on your instagram is awesome hey um i you know what's fucking crazy is i lost these shorts i don't know these shorts were fucking amazing i was embarrassed how much i like these i know right they're like stretchy they felt so comfortable yeah i think yeah i think they're sold out though i think we're done that was only a one-time thing i think i got an i got an extra pair i'll send them to you buddy how many pair do pair do you have? I think I have two or three. Oh, no.

You need those. I don't need them. You just have two. You have clothes galore. Yeah. I almost hung up on you on accident. Uh-oh. Oh, this is a good question.

How come you didn't name your program Harder Work Pays Off More? Jeffrey got them. Working hard pays off working that's good yeah i love mine hey this dude's getting fucking strong i love it where is the payday them shirt uh j Josh is very close-minded. Is that one them or multiple thems? It's just one. I have a video I wanted to run by you. Why did you ask me about the double-unders last night? Oh, because we had a show on last night, and someone said that Josh used to do the double-unders backwards.

Because they're talking about, hey, do you think there's going to be backwards double unders this year in the quarterfinals? And I said, no, Josh didn't do double unders backwards. He just did single unders false. Yeah. And I was wrong. The first, the first open workout, right.

Was the snatch double unders. And I did it backwards and then HQ heard about it. And that's when they implemented the whole, the rope has to move forward during your double unders, even though jumping up, doing double unders backwards is a harder skill. They cared that much. Yeah. It's a trip.

And I watched some videos yesterday of someone doing a backwards double unders and they were so smooth. And yeah, and it was, what was weird is I just grew up. No one, I didn't know that that was the wrong way. I wasn't it like on purpose like oh i'm going backwards that's how i always jump roped even like when i did used to just jump rope for uh for wrestling i used to go i used to

just go backwards i would do sing i was doing single unders back then but then when we went into when i got into cross and i started doing double unders i was going backwards and i had to fucking carry around a jump rope with me that year after they announced like, Hey, your double unders have to be forward. I had to carry a jump rope around me. It took me like a month or two to figure out how to go forward. Wow. It like fucked me up because my hands still have both skills. Do you have both skills still? I rarely do backwards rarely. Um, but like when I went backwards, my hands were like this, my hands, my hands were like this my hands my palms were up and that i it took me like a month to fucking finally realize this that when

you're going forward your hands have to be down your palms like shit palms down and so like it threw me off so throw so much because i i was going like this forward with my palms up and it was fucking me up. Josh should do a master's big comeback. No, you shouldn't. I just can't go overhead with my elbow. I can, just not that heavy. It will just give out. I've tried.

That's what the snatch. I haven't snatched over 205 in four years uh pay the non-binary birthing person uh josh thanks for sending my son a video when he was recovering in the hospital last year wow you do stuff like that i do um i bought those because of josh oh those shorts yeah they were good they were awesome i i mean it sucks i lost. I'll send you a pair. Don't worry. They said. A pair that doesn't fit you anymore? Plus, plus, summer's coming, baby. Summer's coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I want to show you this. I'm going to have to show it to you like in segments so it doesn't get blocked on the YouTube. on the youtube but this is out this is a couple nights ago i think outside of a um heat uh basketball game i guess there's what is the team miami heat is that them

and this is uh jake paul the guy who fought uh i don't know if you watched the fight it was actually a pretty good fight i enjoyed it i did not theory i couldn't watch it that was like the one i've gotten every one of his fights except for that one i don't know why i just didn't want to get it i didn't want to get it either and ended up being his best fight i was actually glad i watched it it sucks i'm really starting to like him he's winning me over i like his mom too this whole the whole they all seems like i mean they're all they're crushing it like it doesn't matter what i what anybody thinks or says like they're crushing Okay, so he's standing outside, and he's with like two or three guys here. What's going on?

And I think that that's Floyd Mayweather right there just said, hey, you got cameras too. Floyd Mayweather said, get your camera off of me. And then Jake's guy said, you got cameras, he got cameras too. I think that's what happened. I can have what I want. You got cameras too. So who are you happened so someone on floyd's team's like who are you supposed to be and he said i'm just working like that guy is just freaking out what happened you're not tough anymore since you're lost

what happened since you're lost and so now they're they're fucking with jake right they're like hey what happened since your loss you're not so tough anymore yo we gonna bust them up guys yo should we bust them up guys now someone in floyd's group just said that yo let's bust them up so it the the stories of how many people are with floyd are like uncertain right was it five was it 10 some people are saying 50. yeah i can see it too you're running jake where you going since your fight since you lost what's up jake so now jake paul's walking away right like obviously he sees something he doesn't like

you're right oh he's running he's running look at him oh my god look how big that dude is right there in the foreground there you see that guy yeah fucking that's like that's a six six guy six seven look at his arms dude and that giant that giant dude. I think that's, I mean, come on. Floyd and your team. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, at least eight dudes. Yeah. You got 40 guys running after one. You know what I love about this confrontation?

Oh my God. That guy's huge. Standing next to Floyd right there too. You see that fucking mountain? Normally when we see, you know, big entourages and sometimes in very serious situations when it gets heated and you hear people talking about who has guns.

And then you see Jake Paul. Yeah, and this guy's talking about guns. You see Jake Paul kind of like just walking away. Had you seen this? No. I fucking hate it. So what were you showing him before? I just, I hate it it i hate the fact that like

no matter who you are that you'd be outside a fucking basketball game and fucking 20 dudes fucking roll up on you and just start talking shit to you you know what i mean and here's the thing did you ever see the footage of jake paul taking his hat yeah i remember that and even that was ridiculous like like mayweather should have just laughed but he had did you see they beat jake paul up after that did you see he had like black eyes and shit oh no they did yeah i didn't know that yeah just like five minutes down the hallway he was getting fucking dudes were punching him and shit for taking a hat jeez so that's called ego right there man you know like or or josh do you think that this is just a fucking all publicity stunt

i could see that, too. I don't think anything's real typically anymore. Everything's fucking fake. Everything's like, I don't know. That's why I had a hard time with getting the Paul Fury fight. Everything's a fucking scam now, I feel like, especially boxing. Boxing's been so corrupt for so long you know that's why UFC took over I feel like boxing's always been a fucking scam god if it is a scam they're doing it so

I mean do you ever watch fights and you're like that's fake no not really yeah me neither that's why I always hear what you're saying but when I watch that shit like people were saying the Jake Paul Fury fight was fake. And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? They were fucking beating the shit out of each other. Yeah, I don't know. I heard about I heard that there was like someone I knew that I thought that I saw on social media that they had. Oh, here's the layout of how the fight's going to go. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Before the fight. Right. And I was like, that's bullshit, too. That's just someone trying to get fucking someone trying to get like some likes or whatever i didn't think that was real either but i don't know if i believe you know because i saw a video of the anderson silva fight right where he knocked him down did you see that video no oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah where the video like he swings and it's like it's clearly he doesn't hit him, and then Silva falls down. Or at least it looks like it in the video. Are you guys deep fakes?

What does that mean? Like, we would be just computers? Yeah, right. Josh's skin from being up in the mountains, he looks like a deep fake. He's still got, like, that, like, he's just out in the snow look to him, like his skin. That's what you said last time too, man. Yeah, it looks like a mask. His skin looks too soft.

No, I'm good. I saw in a cold tub and get my son every day. That Chris Rock slap was real. No, it wasn't. That definitely was real. Nothing about that was real. That was the biggest scam ever. Hey, wait till you got to watch that chris rock thing and you got to watch at the um just watch the end of it even if you just watch the last 10 minutes yeah how

long is it like an hour an hour it's a stand-up right you're talking about yeah yeah okay i will Yeah. Yeah, okay. I will. Sevan is an AI creation. God, they fucking wish. I can see it. No, you cannot. They wish. One final thing before you go. That's it? Good. Yeah, I'm tired of talking to you anyways.

What about this? Oh, yeah. That's a card right there two uh what but it said um what time is it where you're at right now 9 30 9 30 so this is going to be at three o'clock for you and 2 p.m for me you watching this is it somewhere is it uh london yeah i think that i think guzman gets him this time me too me too You watching this? Is it somewhere? Is it London? Oh, it's in London. Yeah. I think Usman gets him this time. Me too. Me too. Hey, and if he doesn't, then Usman's headed to Tyrone Woodley world.

Yeah, exactly. I think he is anyways. I think this might be one of his last fights. No shit. If not his last fight. Wow. Hey, these are going to be crazy fights, dude. Yeah. This fucking Gaethje and Rafael fight is going to be a bloodbath.

Who do you think wins that? I don't know. That Rafael Fazeev guy is fucking no joke. And Justin Gaethje is going to come out like a bat out of hell i don't know i think i think gaethje wins that fight i think whoever wins it though fight is gonna is title contender against uh maklava yeah yeah baklava totally hey and this is a do or die for marvin vittori too yeah yeah he's definitely like had a had a bad streak here lately he's kind of and he's kind

of like on that um diego uh diego sanchez streak right where like he he fucking came up quick and then kind of ran through everyone and then lost and then fell off the earth. Yeah, and fighting some tough dudes, though. This is going to be a great fight, too, dude. This Jack Shore guy is going to be insane. Is that the Irish guy? Either Irish. I was going to say English.

I can't remember. This fight down here is going to be good. This Muhammad Makia fight. Are you watching him? Oh i'll watch these i'll watch wait so saturday uh oh my yeah i'll have to tape him and watch him because um my son tape him how fucking old are you guys listen i don't even like that listen i'm gonna get the vhs out and fucking listen guys yeah fucking 10 years younger than me and even i don't say that dumb shit you guys always make fun of me for being old fuck you i gotta get the fucking recorder out

and tape that shit uh seven my friend uh rashad cutler former ufc lightweight may may 13th is fighting need to interview him send me um welsh send me Send me a DM with his Instagram, and I'll spot him out. Oh, what about Dominic Reyes' loss streak? Yeah, I know. I was at the last one he got knocked out at. He was at the Chandler. It was the Adesanya. Who did you just lose to?

And, dude, I didn't even realize dominic reyes was on card and he got knocked out in like 30 seconds who who did it to him i forget it was that russian dude right yeah i don't i don't remember who it was but i was like well that guy's done that guy needs to retire dude dominic reyes went from fucking basically getting a bad call and a defeat against Jon Jones to, like, losing three or four in a row. So sad. It was. How about Jon Jones, the way he fucking handled Gon? Dude.

I can't wait for the Stipe Jones. I hope Stipe fucks him up. It ain't going to happen. I know. It ain't going to happen. You can bet against Jon Jones all you want because you might not like the guy, but, man, he ain't gonna happen i know it ain't gonna happen you can bet against john jones all you want because you might not like the guy but man he ain't losing uh wait is hey he did say this though josh um uh john jones said hey i felt goofy out there and i went until it went to the ground and i want to say something he did have his feet he wasn't moving his feet were moving

kind of funny he didn't seem like himself. I mean, it happened so fast, too. It did. I mean, he'd been out of the ring for three years. I don't know. And he was against a guy who weighed fucking, you know, he's not normally weighing 240 pounds. He normally goes in the ring probably weighing like 220, 215. How about these people saying he was pudgy? I'm like, dude, leave him alone.

He's huge. He is a monster. Yeah. And I know I'm not 40 yet. I turned 40 this year, later this alone. He's huge. He is a monster. Yeah. And I know I'm not 40 yet. I turned 40 this year, later this year. When's your birthday? July. July what?

Fourth. Is it really? Holy shit. Dude, you're so awesome. I know. I know. Josh was born at the Statue of Liberty, and he's born on the 4th of july what no big deal what a fucking awesome thing hey so we just we did two shows up quick back to back

i know let's do another one man i'm loving it look at this oh where's that picture from yeah yeah who did that yeah i love that did i send that to you frame too yes you did god i'm like no no it wasn't framed oh no you just i'm a shitty dude yeah no right you are a shitty dude give me my coffee back oh wait you don't drink it anyways anymore i mix my beans i mix my beans all right um good to see you good to see you too pal and um okay i would love to take advantage of of your offering you mean it you seriously come back back on again soon i always love talking to you but buddy okay you're like a cow every three weeks you need to be milked yeah all right i'll talk to you soon and um uh that's good i now i know who i'll text i'll start a thread with me you and dave uh so dave can talk shit about ufc and we can talk about how great the fights are on saturday let's go all right brother see you brother thanks josh

See you, brother. Thanks, Josh. Sevan is noticeably grayer since he quit drinking good dudes. Hey, Josh and Darian Weeks. Yeah, that'd be cool to get both of them on. I'm kind of hating the UFC shows that I do. The only reason why I like doing them is I truly like Darian. He's dope.

I really like Darian he's dope I really like Darian I don't know why I'm sharing this with you guys but I'm going to share it with you maybe maybe it comes from some deep-rooted insecurity but I never do a show for the sake of doing a show I'm never like hey I have to do a show it's because I'm really focusing on this Chris Rock thing lately about what he's been saying about getting attention i actually had a pretty interesting talk with hillar about it yesterday i'm so tripped out by people who want attention for attention's sake and yeah it it it um trips me out i i i sincerely, um, like I hadn't bugged Josh to come on the show in fucking months. Right. And then we, and we started texting a couple months ago and he was

like, Hey, I'll come on. And I was like, Oh, that's fucking awesome. And then after that show, he said, he'd come on again. I'm like, fuck yeah. And I, and I, I want to do shows with him because I enjoy talking to Josh. I enjoy like spending time with him, like all those kids' stories. Like any story he says that starts with, so is that the softball game with my kids? I'm like, oh, yeah. Give it to us. Let us know. I want to hear.

And I pulled my kid out because of the coach, and he took him. It was just great. He's a gooder dude than most, yeah. And I just, when he talks, I can understand what he's saying. I can relate to it. I feel him. And I also is as much of a badass as he is. I feel very safe around him, uh, expressing just intimacy and emotions. And I just like him. I feel good around him. Vulnerable. I started thinking about the attention thing and I was like, I, I, I would never, I would, this is a, this is a bad example because I don't, I, I think Zach Tellander gave some good, he said he was on his friend, Chris Williamson's show eight times. And he did say that he was on the show.

So that because he is really good friends with Chris, but also so that they could work out some ideas. But I started thinking about that in terms of – and not this – him sharing that with me inspired this. I'm not accusing Chris and Zach of doing this even in the slightest. But I was thinking I know people who – I suspect there's people who they do their podcast, and they just – they'll have repeat guests on just because it's easy or because they need to fill the time. They feel like, oh, shit, I got to do one. I never, ever, ever do that. I'm fortunate that there's always like 10 live call-in shows I want to do that I already have scripted out.

Scripted out is maybe a little too strong. do that i already have scripted out scripted out it's maybe a little too strong um and the guests i have honored are people that either i want to talk to or i'm a little afraid to talk to so i have them on and um so i don't i don't i don't take it lightly like just coming on here and filling time at all i would never never, I wouldn't do that. I can't imagine ever do it. Damn. I just realized you have a dear bill and Katie shirt on. Yes.

A lot of sled. It should be here any day. It's weird. You know what I did? I went to, I went to bill and Katie's website. You may have heard of it. Rogue fitness. I went to the rogue fitness.

It's a fuck. It's's a it truly is a junk food uh fitness junk food website it's fucking ridiculous okay i never click the sponsored ad because i don't want to give any fucking money to google um so so it's it's just basically junk food right i mean everything is so pretty and nice except it's healthy junk food but it's just basically junk food, right? I mean, everything is so pretty and nice, except it's healthy junk food. But it's just like, this is a dangerous place to go. New gear. Oh, my God. I just want it all.

I don't even know where I put it. Oh, so I got basically something like this. I got this sled, I think, but not with that tray. I didn't get the alpaca sled. I got like, I think, but not with that tray. I didn't get the alpaca sled. I got like – I think it's called a dog sled. My point of telling you the story is I ordered it from my phone. I can't remember which one I got. I think I got this one, the Rogue Echo sled, dog sled.

dog sled and i ordered it from my phone and um i never got an email confirmation like i just basically like it says hey my phone just asked me do you want to use this credit card i said yeah yeah my road card is stupid yeah right i know by that you mean you filled it up with shit and then they send you an email every three days telling you you left shit in your cart? And like, oh, shit. That's awesome, Mason. I would love to have him on. I love a guy who's 5-0. Fucking love him.

Afraid to talk to meaning afraid is a little strong. But like i interviewed this lady uh um the other day i saw her instagram account her name's i think jennifer welch and um i saw her account i'm like fuck i'd love to have a conversation with her and then she wrote back i said hey i'd love to have you on my podcast so bad will you come on and she wrote back why and i said because i'm a little afraid to talk to you and that that's what I mean by like, I, every show I'm a little afraid and some should to degrees of, of afraidness. Like even this show, I'm a little afraid in the shower before I come on every show, there becomes this like bottleneck of thoughts that I want to open the show with. And it starts giving me crazy anxiety, like just right as I'm coming in here and it's but if I you know it's crazy if I have anxiety and I have paper and pencil and I write down what I'm anxious about it goes away like instantly

and I think it's I don't think I'm anxious like in the sense that like I'm afraid of the thoughts I'm afraid of losing the sense that like I'm afraid of the thoughts. I'm afraid of losing the thoughts. Does that make sense? Yeah, it's healthy to have some anxiety. Yeah, totally. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I fucking love it.

It would be weird if I didn't. So with Josh, like I wanted to talk to him about his kids. I wanted to open the show strong. And someone sent me that spiegel hybrid picture and i wanted to open the show strong um with to talk about kids and then talk about like attention and then and then use that spiegel picture as like just like something to grab and as i'm in the shower i'm thinking all this and i'm like but i don't have my notes with me i'd already printed my notes out and i started like shit i gotta get to paper write it and write it down so i know because i don't want it to go away and something a lot of times it will go away like i'll fucking

forget like probably 20 of the time which is fine too i'm pretty compassionate with myself i ordered the freedom bar it chipped uh it chipped paint and they sent me a new bar the week after i let them know yeah did you have to send the old bar back um seven what do you keep your show notes that you uh seven do you keep they're all i mean i throw away the paper when i'm done um there's usually a big stack of them on a table over there and then after a while i throw them away but they are um but they're all in my email i keep in my email i keep all my notes are uh gmail drafts and that way all i have to do is just right before the show i send them to caleb like i send every note even if you don't see caleb and suzy here i send them my notes anyway i got this dog sled and i i need a i need a fucking confirmation

email but i can't i can't like text bill and katie and be like i mean they're fucking they have a fucking million square foot facility um excuse but i'm too fucking lazy and think i'm too cool to go the traditional route. And, and like, there's probably like a contact in here where I have to be like, but I have an order and I didn't get a confirmation. Anyway, I hope I get it soon. It's like a bass pro shop,

but for fitness. Yeah. It's nuts. Right. That website is nuts. shop but for fitness yeah it's nuts right that website is nuts i haven't been there in 10 years to the to the rogue um headquarters uh janelle winston i would honestly be afraid to go on a podcast i usually leave most conversations feeling slightly stupid imagine it being recorded and published.

Yeah. Fuck, man. I totally know what you mean. I totally. Hey, I don't go on. I don't want to go on anyone else's podcast. Every week someone asks me to go on their podcast. I go on Peter's Coffee Wads it um i go on peter's coffee wads

and pods because i like him but still he'll probably ask me i don't know 5 10 20 maybe he would tell you he asked me 50 times and i very and but i don't say no i just respond to him that's nice of you or i just but i'm not interested in the thought. I don't understand why anyone would want to go on a podcast. I really don't. It goes back to that whole attention thing. Why the fuck would you want to come on here? I don't fucking understand. Unless you had like something like something to sell.

That's why I like having Josh on here so great. I feel so comfortable with him and all those thoughts go away. All my insecurities go away when I'm around him and we're just talking like what that, whatever you were saying up there, a Janelle, like, yeah,

I would be like, I don't feel ever slightly stupid or like he, he, he dicked me or like, I just feel good. Like, yeah. Have yourself on your podcast.

I don't know why you make YouTube videos and call it a podcast. I don't know why you make YouTube videos and call it a podcast. The real Kevin. I don't even understand what that means. I don't. Like me personally? Because this is just a podcast. Like the majority of the viewers and listeners of this, this goes straight from here.

Susan, if you're talking about me, this goes from here to iTunes and Spotify. The YouTube thing and all of this is an afterthought. I know it doesn't seem that way because you're watching it here. But yeah, their live chat is legit. Oh, you mean Rogue's live chat? Oh, can I do that right in front of you guys? Should I do that and find out where my sled is? You think they have that?

Let's fuck with that. That'll be a fun bit. Let's do that. Okay. Is that what you mean, Elliot? Their live chat? Yeah, exactly. That's what happened, Chester.

I used some sort of like app on my phone you are a youtuber not a podcaster i have a great response for you okay hold on where do you think where's this live chat Okay, hold on. Where do you think – where's this live chat? Where is that comment? Oh, here we go. Oh, okay. When I listen to Spotify and you showing Josh a video of Floyd, no one knows what you're talking about because we can't see it. Yeah, but it's pop culture stuff, and I think a lot of people can see it. It's like Fox News or CNN on Sirius. You listen to it, and I'm never like, hey, this is a TV show I'm listening to, even though it's the exact recording live from their TV show. Stefan's an interviewer.

I'm fine with whatever you want to interviewer. I'm fine with whatever you want to call me. I especially like what your mom calls me. Especially. Guys, I don't see the live chat. Oh, live chat. Okay, here we go. Here we go. Please let us know how we can assist you.

Sevan Matosian, reason for contact. Question about my order um here Bill and Katie come on

I ordered so like you don't need to see this part though right Rick what's that guy's name Kevin you don't need to see this like you can just hear it that's why I talk some of my shit out that um other people can't uh people can't see because

i know people are listening okay sorry uh dear bill and katie i ordered a dog sled using my phone and didn't get a confirmation email. I ordered a dog sled using my phone and didn't get a confirmation email. Sorry to be a pain in the ass. Hope you guys are doing great. Start chat. Uh start chat

uh oh a rogue team member will be with you shortly if you haven't already please provide your order number and let us know what you have what question you have oh shoot uh logan p has joined the chat um oh uh hi savon matosian my name is logan p i'm happy to see you today sweet in the chat. Oh. Hi, my name is Logan P. I'm happy to see you today. Sweet. I don't have I don't

have an order number. If you have an account, log in and check the history. I did. That was another thing. That's great advice. I did do that. And I do have an account, and I checked my order history, and it wasn't there.

Typing skills is a struggle. Geez. Wow. Ouch. Tell Logan to get Bill and Kate. Oh, should I? I'm drunk off of coffee. Oh, yeah, I did get charged.

I checked. No worries. I can see that you purchased the Echo dog sled on March 5th. Would that be the one? Yes. You're a good dude. you're a good dude um any uh idea when it arrives at my castle he got me all fucking tripped out about my typing skills any idea when it arrives at my castle

bogan bogan p Rogan Rogan P five star customer service I agree this is killing it this is killing it ask him I'm too scared to ask him that ask him if you can speak to Bill and Katie I'll maybe tell him to tell Bill oh when I pull

up the tracking for it this shows that it was delivered yesterday. Oh, Nelly. Oh, Nelly. Oh, shit, and there's my address. You asshole. Yes. Yes. um it's uh it's uh whether here is a shit show raining for a month oh at the gate oh

is there a photo yesterday i wonder if uh let me see if i can uh a time dude i got fucking chat f seven has a gate are you fucking kidding me i got three fucking gates wrap around driveway i'm telling you i'm living a fucking a dream life let me see this here favorites recent uh contacts uh It's in your garage already, you think? Logan P is getting back to me.

Yes, I have a compound. That is correct. I think that's a good, fair way of saying it. Oh, stop. No one google anything hello users kaylee leave a message thanks damn uh but i'm not saying it was delivered last night. Oh, shit. Oh. Okay. I will check now.

Thank you. Peace and love. All right. love all right oh please tell Bill and Katie thank you if you run into any issues or they are not there just reach back out and we can get something going for you boss hashtag boss right oh bye well that was almost a seamless bit i mean how yeah i mean how good is my life I get to do

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Rogan was 10 out of 10 uh Logan was perfect he was perfect right Logan was perfect okay perfect alright oh and now you'll get a and now you'll get a All right.

Oh, and now you'll get an email with a copy of the whole chat thread. Maybe sponsors will send them. Oh, all right. Let me see. I'll go check my email. So I showed my email today. What a fucking disaster. I wonder why my wife didn't answer the phone. I hope she's still sleeping.

That'd be awesome. You know who I'm thinking about getting on the show? Is Roman Krennikoff's partner. Training partner. Do you guys know who that is? Logan Ewing.

I DM with him and yeah, he's a Logan. Hey, you know what sucks is I went to a climbing gym for some kid's birthday party and I took my kids there. And they had this dog sled in the back. And so while the birthday party was going on, my wife and I did a little workout back there. And that was it. I was like, fuck. And I just bought one while I was there.

That's what a sucker I am. But I'm so excited to use it. Not even any weight on it. My wife and I just pushed it back and forth. And my wife's such a fucking animal. She's like, let's time ourselves and see who's faster fuck why who says shit like that uh logan's a good dude clidesdale has a really good relationship with him scotty mr schweitzer

um oh look there's logan see give me a time you're still you're kind of in purgatory you're you're you're in um where are you you're in this um yeah you're you're like one of those people that like i need to i need to have on i need to like maybe i'm too scared of you still i don't know know. Or maybe I'm not scared enough. I don't know what it is. But you're definitely in the... You're in my head. Logan, you're living in my head rent-free. Eh. My wife says shit like that, but I win.

Well, that's good. I think I won by a couple of seconds too. I'm not sure actually in my, in my, in my memory, I won, uh, tomorrow we have a fucking amazing guest you know my birthday is coming up you have my address fucking do something good with it send me a fucking package my birthday is tomorrow can you believe that fuck yeah I know yeah fuck yeah fuck yes

tomorrow is my birthday 51 so tomorrow we have the guy who owns uh crossfit uh santiago crossfit santiago can we have more female guests seriously do we not have female guests we had uh clay clay clay claire claire danes fucking for like a a month straight on here what are you talking about i'm looking the tomorrow's guests can be cool though i think that's the oldest gym in chile i'm pretty excited okay uh i'm going to my live content uh we had uh brian and uh jr on dudes then we had brian on then we had brian on then we had uh adam kramer then we had andrew hiller then we had john anderson holy shit then we had zach tellander

then we had andrew hiller the gary roberts holy shit i don't have women on oh i just reached out to oh i had sam briggs on i reached out to this lady jennifer welch yesterday you know what's crazy too is after i invited her on and then oh yeah so i don't have women on that's amazing josh shakespeare on i don't have a lot of vaginas on. And before that, it was a lady named Kristen from the CrossFit Affiliate Series. Oh, I had Emily Kaplan on. I had Sarah Sigmund's daughter. Sarah Sigmund's daughter. My feminine side is so strong.

And I am gender neutral. So in theory, you could say I am every day there's a woman on. Athena, more Emily, sporty beth uh the babylon lady oh you were scared but scarred yeah maybe i was scarred by the identity doctor what a fucking nut job that ended up being get catron on i'd do catron i'd love to bury the hatchet with all these people. I don't think the problem is if I bury the hatchet. The thing is I'm still prickly. Josh was just on. He's my friend, but I would do a whole 10 minutes of Josh jokes.

And I think, when are we having Camille on? Camille was in the background of that show where Dave Lipson was. And something was definitely wrong during that show where Dave Lipson was and something was definitely wrong during that show Laura Horvat was a good I'd love to have Laura on I'd love to have Haley on love to have that how about just non-crossfitting women for starters that would be my favorite you have Annika Greer on these are all people I've had on before Haley for sure yeah Brooke ends Haley for sure I definitely I definitely I definitely will bug Haley every every month

and she's nice she responds to the text like she's always pleasant yeah it'd be interesting to have Brooke Ensign. Bring in your mom. I would love that my mom would never come on here. My mom does not want any attention like that. It's 45 mile an hour winds here yesterday at the beach. Crazy. You know, the kind where the stop signs are rattling and making so much noise.

There's so much spray off the ocean that like you can't even open your eyes. I had to take my glasses off walk around with my glasses so i took my boys there and we walked a mile to a pizza place along the beach just getting hammered by fucking rain and storm and shit then we went inside ate a piece of pizza and then walked a mile back and i took my mom too my mom's a badass she's like i'm not going it's horrible outside i'm like so what that's why we're doing it because it's horrible outside we don't you know you never see anyone right it's just us walking the three plane brothers and my mom so cool i think we're so cool for doing that

um i uh check out uh uh, Julia Brandt glass. She's a 16 times world champion inline speed skating who is now doing CrossFit. Oh, wow. That that's a pretty fucking cool sport. I look this, this, this lady that I invited on yesterday, Jennifer Welch. She was like, after I invited her on, I realized she was on the Bravo channel as an interior designer. But she has a podcast and she's funny as shit.

And I think she's my age. And she's really attractive. She checks all the boxes and smart and witty. So I was like, I was kind of afraid to have her on. I'm always afraid to have like smart and witty people on. What if they get unruly? I can't fucking control them. Oh,

she just texted me, DM me back. That's awesome. I'm always asking people to come on every day. I asked three people to come on. Every day I ask three people to come on. Who is I? Oh, yeah. Sorry, I got distracted.

I fell into my DM. See how quickly that happens? Brant. Hyphen glass. Julie Brandt. She doesn't have a blue checkmark. I see one with 11,000. Julie Brandt with 11,000. Followers.

I don't see her Instagram. You're going to have to send to me. Julie Brandt. Damn. Like. Julie Van Dam. Nope. Don't see her Instagram. You're going to have to send it to me. Julie Brandam? Like, like Julie Van Dam? Nope, don't see her. Is she on, is she on Instagram?

I don't see her. Send me, send me a DM and I'll invite her on. Yeah, whoever. Midget CrossFitter would be great. No, I just don't want any CrossFters anymore how about danny spiegel that'd be fucking awesome if danny would come on someone actually asked me yesterday who said it to me who if you could have anyone on who would

you have on you have to know it would be no one in the CrossFit space. You have to know that, please. And the person I was talking to is a good friend of mine. They were like throwing out names as like people like I could give two fucks if they came on or not. Who did I say that I'd like to have on? Oh, you know who I'd like to have on? I'd like to have Jon Jones on. on I want to hear stuff that's like this is going to come out wrong but I've done so much crazy shit myself I want to hear like just real good I want to hear shit that's like not even close to the fucking crazy shit that I've done.

Like just on another, like, like you were in a space shuttle. And you got your dick sucked in there. Yeah. Someone got a blow. Yeah. Hunter Biden. I'd love to know that. I would love to have Hunter on.

I want to know about the high levels of fucking crazy paranoia. He must have. I would love to have Hunter on. I want to know about the high levels of fucking crazy paranoia. He must have. I'm so interested in like. Yeah, I just. It's going to. Yeah, I didn't want it. Yeah, I just want. Yeah yeah brian's hitman yeah i'd give a fuck if fucking there was a hitman after brian so what i want to meet the hitman thank you yeah the hitman yes snowden yeah that'd be awesome and i don't i just want to know what's

like hanging out like hiding for months at it like yeah I just want to hear someone I want someone with Brian's vulnerability who's done some just really fucking gnarly shit yeah the hitman it's fucking the hitman would be great I do you would be fucking blown away that all the people i um dm just no one responds right no one's in there it's hard it's hard i mean even zach uh to lander i had i dm'd him before he came

on and um he had carnage or just anything i just just i have done some shit. If you listen, I've done some fucking wild, wild shit. I've been everywhere. I've seen it all. Roger Sparks is pretty legit. I agree. That was cool. That book was crazy. I think I reached out to Marcus.

I think that was a friend of – I think he might be Dave's friend, but thank you, Patrick. I'm trying to respond to all my DMs. It's crazy. Did Zach say he wants back on? Zach Tillander says he wants back on. I would have him on again. Bum fights. Holy shit shit how old are you that you remember that show Brandon LeCocq LeCocq

I'd love to have Eckhart Tolle on that's who I'd like to have on I'd like to have on the Dalai Lama I'd like to have on i'd like to have on the dalai lama i'd like to have on michael singer the guy who wrote the fuck is the name of that book um michael by the way if you haven't read this book you got to read this book michael singer uh If you haven't read this book, you got to read this book. Michael Singer. He wrote Living Untethered. Living Untethered by Michael Singer.

He fucking laid out the whole entire landscape there. That's what all the people who are playing victims need to read. Michael Singer, Living tethered. You want to unravel your shit? Well, I, I don't know. I know some people, some victim people who read it and they're still fucked up,

but that's how the, that guy lays out how the entire mind works. I know. Yeah. I should get Nicole Carol on. That would actually be, that would be cool. Um,

yeah. Uh, this guy, That would be cool. Yeah, this guy Michael Singer in this book Untethered lays out the whole mind. And so when you read a book like this, you just see, oh shit, all these people are playing the victim. I'm going to give you a fucking example, a really fucking great example. People don't understand how words work that's the fucking problem they don't understand how how the human brain works and so they they there's this constant feigning of compassion or kindness that is just at the root of the fucking problem because you don't understand how the fucking brain works and so like you're just a fucking wildly horrible person pretending to be a good person and you're willing to defend it to the end and i'll show you right here so here's

here's this fucking hot red-headed chick fucking with a dumbbell over her head right and she's missing a hand or or it's a or it appears she's missing a hand. And there's a comment in here you have to see. This one right here, brave girl. People are going to be like, oh my God, Sevan, you're reading into it, or oh my God, just leave it alone, or no or no no you're saying that because you're being defensive because you don't understand how this shit works and how fucking potent it is and how it keeps all the zombies in check

what a fucking horrible thing to say brave girl what why is she brave why how come no one wrote hot girl how come no one wrote sexy girl oh shut it i don't even do i don't i i don't even do a porn hub if i do it's like i just take what's given to me i don't i don't i i don't even need to click the videos on porn hub the fucking thumbnails enough for me um uh and i know a bunch of you are like oh shit you too listen when you say brave girl you're you're like insinuating you're you're making some sort of insinuation. It's so much like fucking people who think like they invite needy people to their house for fucking Thanksgiving or Christmas. You're not better than them.

Fuck off. Yeah, but they don't know it. That's thing they're feigning this kindness and she may even like it that's what's even worse now don't get me wrong in a in a perfect world like great whatever let it go but we're in this era where people think that that's like some sort of fucking compliment and there's an insinuation there that everyone pushes you into your head and keeps you a zombie and you have to understand why it's brave and it's because you think you're better than her or she's doing something you couldn't do or she's like there's something less of her because she's missing a fucking hand like just go eat a dick how about what's her

number can i get her fucking IG and date her? How about like, oh my god, I like her fucking arms. What do I have to do to get those arms? Oh, but it's not about the body. It's what it can do. Well, tell that to fucking her who's missing a hand. I'm okay with this. So badass. That's's fine it is badass

I remember when Libby DiBiase you have to remember those shorts right now too no one's even talking about those when Libby DiBiase wore those shorts to the 2008 or 2009 CrossFit Games it changed the scene thank you queen for showing us nothing is impossible she had a fucking dumbbell over her head she didn't fucking cure cancer and so what happens is is people you're she's getting attention for playing the victim and it exacerbates the problem.

Don't get me wrong. Beautiful picture. Absolutely should have been posted. Love the adaptive class. Fucking intellectually and visually, it's fucking trippy as shit to see someone lifting or missing a hand. I love all that. I love the spectacle of it for sure. I love that she's, I love women's bodies.

She's fucking great. I like those shoes. Those look like, I don't know, gum nano tubes. There's so much I like about it. I'm even okay with their fucking dumbass tattoo. It's kind of cool. I think I went to her Instagram account. I was thinking about to her Instagram account.

I was thinking about having her on. For the most superficial reasons. Because she's fucking missing a hand. And because I like redheads. But I don't think she speaks English. But anyway. This shit is all over the fucking Instagram. It's all over our fucking world. Of people trying to pretend to be nice.

No one wants you to be nice to them like that people want you to look in their eyes and validate them as a fucking god and if you can't do that then fucking crawl back into a cave and stay there until you can look at at least one person today and validate them as a fucking true fucking child of god look at them and just be like in awe and of loving them for for them because you truly see it red-handed it's nice so that that's i just we're in a world where people don't understand these words that they're saying or casting spells. Oh, my God. And then all my dreams are answered.

Hi. There he is. What's up, dude? I was listening to you on my whole way back from Hayward here, and I was like, oh, if he goes long enough, I'm going to jump on him. That's sent to come get you out of the bar. Like, come on, buddy. Come on, Stefan. Just on, buddy. Come on, Stevan. Just hit end broadcast.

Come on. You can do it. We have so much stuff to do. But did you see my comment on that last post? Yes, queen. No. Oh, you did comment on this? No, I'm just messing with you.

Oh, oh. I just thought it was funny. And I was like, what are the odds I get all the way back home? That storm crushed shit out here. Is everything where you are just tore up right now? Dude, my power went off yesterday. Yeah, same with ours. It didn't happen at the gym, but I guess it temporarily went off by the apartment.

But they had it up and going later on by the time I got home, there's, there's like carnage everywhere. They're picking up this huge tree out of the intersection right now. That's just been kind of coned off. And when I was headed out to Hayward, I was at the station that was up on the Hill and they had downed power lines there.

The whole road was blocked off and I spent like scary. Yeah. I spent like five or 10 minutes just trying to circle around to figure out another way to get through there. And then the traffic was just insane. Hey, did you have crazy wind? Because you live in one of the windmill capitals of the world. Yeah, it was crazy windy. Like we shut the bay door down at the gym because all the stuff was just blowing into the gym.

And we shut the bay door down. It was just like banging on it the whole time i'm not gonna lie yesterday i took my my mom and my kids to the beach my mom didn't want to go i'm like now you're going and we get there and when we walked a mile you could tell the storm was picking up and i was and i the winds were easily 30 40 maybe more 50 miles an hour like the kind where like you're walking and then all of a sudden you get blown around a little bit. And I was a little nervous walk after we ate the pizza. I was like, Oh shit. What if, what if this shit fucks my mom and my kids up? You're out there like, no, it's fine. Let's head to the beach. Dun, dun, dun. Yeah. It was crazy. And it's sunny here today though. It's sunny.

Yeah. It's like, it's nice out too. We got a little rain clouds and there's been some sprinkles on this end, but right now the sun's peeking out. So it's sunny here today, though. It's sunny. Yeah, it's nice out, too. We got a little rain clouds, and there's been some sprinkles on this end. But right now, the sun's peeking out, so it's pretty nice. Someone was suggesting we have some females guests on. I know. I heard that. And then you were like, we have females. And then you were going through the list, and you're like, shit, I guess we don't. We do.

I think it just comes in spurts. And we had Claire Bay on for the last month. I know. I was just repeating what you said yeah thank you and the thing is too is then everyone just starts suggesting all these these uh crossfit chicks i know i know we're like in that uh crossfit season right now too so it just feels like an overload of crossfit stuff and i'm over here like man we're like worried about who ran or who walked on a shuttle sprint and if the thruster counted and the pentagon just released there's a mothership probing our solar system wait did they really release yeah silicon valley bank fucking collapse the government is like figuring out how to bail other people out like there could be a potential other bank run coming in this next month and we're

like well did it count because they stepped forward on a thruster like pentagon released the latest ufo sighting report yeah mothership baby and the funny thing is is like what how do they know it's a mothership like how do they have the definition wow uh caller hi so von and susan what's up, Jeremy in Wisconsin. What's going on guys. What's up, Jeremy. Hey Jerry. Hey, so I was talking to our,

our buddy Phillip Kelly yesterday about this scenario at the gym. And I wanted to, especially since Sousa's on now, I want to get your take on it. And I'll keep it short, but I could be wrong, but I feel like a while ago, Savan, you had said that someone was talking about like wokeness in a CrossFit gym. And you said, you can't see that it exists or you don't believe it exists.

Something like that. I could be wrong. Maybe it was somebody else, but it does exist. And I'll give you an example of it existing. I've been at the gym. I started an affiliate back in 2013, and I was there up until about 18, went to another gym, came back recently.

And what it seems like it's taken over at the gym is this sort of liberal feminist movement. And short story, on Monday, we did the CrossFit total. Three attempts at the one rep max back squat, three attempts at a strict shoulder press, and three attempts at a deadlift. So I go for it, and I'm doing my back squat, my very first attempt.

And I had a belt on. I get to the bottom and the belt pops off and my back goes all screwy just because it was such a weird moment. And anyways, later that night after I'm like stretching and recovering, I comment. I'm looking through all the scores, all the members' scores. And mine is zero. So like I jokingly comment literally everyone including women beat me today and i made like a joke like orange theory here i come i commented on all that on sugar just a joke completely joke i wake up the next morning with the insinuation that being that

women are generally weaker than men right especially on a one rep max day you know i would never put that on a met if we do fran and you beat me you beat me i mean whatever i'm not gonna say oh my god a woman beat me or anything you know whatever but on a max lift day it was just a joke and i wake up the next day to one of the someone who just recently became a coach and she's like the leader of this feminist crazy movement and she says jeremy like this is the text jeremy comma that comment on sugar wad was completely inappropriate i think you should delete it i'm like and i'll be honest i forgot what i had said i'm like what is she talking about what did i even say on sugar and i when i looked i'm like i'm like right yeah I'm like, I'm like, right. I'm like, hold on a second.

So I'm not going to get into like a text message war with you. So I call her and she did not like that. I called her. She's like really upset, breathing all heavy. Woke people do not want a face-to-face confrontation because intellectually they know that they're fucked. Absolutely. Her goal, their goal. confrontation because intellectually they know that they're fucked absolutely her goal their their goal and and i was who is some some major conservative figure and i was had a debate where at the end of the back and forth with the young lady she just does these crazy facial expressions i don't know if you guys have seen that one yet but it's absolutely hilarious i'll try to find it

and send it to you but um essentially they want to say something text or social media and they want you to shut up and be like oh my god i'm so sorry yeah and i called her and i'm like yo what do you what is offensive or demoralizing or blah blah blah about that of course no good answer but she's just like like she's just going off about how it made her feel and this and i'm like dude you know me you know me for over 10 years you know that i'm not a douche like that and i wouldn't i don't you know i don't care people beat me but it was because it was a one rep max day and literally everybody including the females beat me so no i just wanted to call in and maybe see like shoes of thoughts on that let me just say this real quick i i would like to know what things physically that women do

that they're that they're better than met better may not be the best word stronger than men at but i just looked up the heaviest back squat a man has ever done this is just from a quick look uh on the internet is 1311 1,311 pounds. That's the heaviest back squat a male has ever done. And the heaviest female, which is actually, to be honest, way more than I thought. The heaviest female back squat is 924 pounds. Wow. Yeah, so it's almost 400 pounds less.

It's still fucking insane. It's still nine times as much as I can back squat. Even a woman can back squat nine times as much as me. But, oh, uh, Oh, there you go. Carlos Romero. They make him make a baby. And that's the thing that I can open a hole on their body larger than any hole I can open on my body. Totally. I told her that I told many women that, that I'm like, what you guys can do. I think you talked about it yesterday too. It's just being a mother is like the best thing.

Jeremy, sorry to interrupt. Here's the thing too, by the way. Here's the implication that you can't ever say that you can't highlight men. So we have no fucking problem saying, holy fuck, Cary Pierce beat every fucking person at the fucking CrossFit Games at that workout, including the men. We have no problem saying that about sam briggs here's the thing it's fucking amazing it's and why are we saying that because we can't fucking believe it because usually the men win and so it's like yeah you you it's it's fucking crazy they want to have it both ways they want to have it both and when you

confront them about it then they have absolutely no legit argument and all it does is make them more angry because they're so stuck in their head and they yeah i even talked to other members what if you said hey what if she said hey it makes me feel bad what if you were like hey sorry i don't have any feelings um could you explain it to me intellectually like can you explain why it's wrong I should have three-wayed you in on the phone call let me phone a friend

that term three-way is very offensive to him we're going to have to X that out FNA, no you ain't wrong freaking nuts I just wanted to throw that out there and just let you know like that that wokeness that on that inability to to walk logically or without tons of feelings

or any it's it's it's out there um and of course she wears all the noble stuff and everything nothing against you know people who wear noble i know there's a bunch of listeners and i but i i don't know i look at that, I can't really support them. So I don't care how comfortable that shit is. I'm not wearing it. She's welcome to feel however she wants. What she's doing, though, is giving her power away to you by saying you have control over the way she feels. And it's pathetic.

I think also, too also you got two options number one and this is truly the answer that i would have gone with here is i just would have completely ignored it like i would have been like oh my god i wasn't thinking you're so right and then just been done with it because i just personally don't have the time to like focus on the back and forth but if you wanted to you should have leaned in and been like, hey, I understand your position. But I'm a black guy and I can say whatever I want. But yesterday I listened to the Brian Friend podcast and I was traumatized to hear that the woman that was being banged by another dude when I brought you flowers traumatized me so much and men everywhere so much that I couldn't even lift that day.

So I'm just trying to get over my trauma and my hurt. You women are so evil because you bang our friends. You're so powerful that I could never take that back and not relive that moment. And it affected me deeply. I'm sorry. That would have been epic. It's funny because she did try to turn it on me. She's like over the last few weeks,

you've been darker. What's going on? And I'm like, well, the word darker, darker. I'm like, what are you talking about?

What do you mean? Yeah. That's right. You should always play that card, dude. Come on. Aren't you going through some shit too, Jeremy?

Dude, I told her, I'm like, Rachel, I was like, you know that, sorry to drop her name, but I'm like, you know that I'm going through a divorce. I just lost my job. Like, yeah, I'm going through some shit, but I still show up at the gym and I'm super positive.

And, you know, cause that's what you're supposed to do. You know, that's what you got to do. Cause people are paying good money to, to come get the best hour of their day. So if it seems like I've been maybe a little darker, like why don't you come up to me and be like, yo, what's going on? You know, now you're bringing it up to try to twist this on me. And I'm like, dude, I said, all right, I'm done. I'm done with this conversation. You have a good day. And that was it.

Hey, I think it's awesome that you, um, you talked to her by the way. I, and I think it's good for her. I think people need to talk and you know what? It probably, you probably. It'll weigh on my mind too much if I don't. I hope so. That's my, that's kind of part of my goal. Like it would just weigh on my mind if I don't talk to people like that. Um, obviously I know when I've said enough and that's why I ended the conversation, but like, that's part of my goal is like get her out of her head so that she can actually think and not just feel everything and react on that you can't live your life like

that that shit's gonna it's gonna get you nowhere man can you can you can you see the screen right now no i'm on my phone so i have to pause when i call uh born primitive is the other side of the coin they sexualize women and encourage promiscuity. Women are meant for humility and commitment. I just went to their website. This chick's body is crazy, dude. Are you agreeing? Yeah, they put some pretty good-looking women in it.

Oh, my God. This chick's body is nuts, dude. That's a fucking – so I'm going to get in trouble. That's a baby factory holy shit look at her skin is perfect hey i wanted to leave here with this i gotta i gotta get going but hey i keep in the in maybe in your dms but definitely in the chat keep saying west pie get him on and i know you're like i don't want any CrossFit guys but he's got a hell of a I should have Wes on you're totally right I love Wes he's a great dude he's just got a hell

of a story and what he and I and a bunch of other guys are working on right now with the non-profit is pretty awesome obviously there's a ways to go but look at these three different butts oh sorry yeah I know I need to have wes on you're

right his his upbringing his childhood his story everything just it's incredible um okay who was the other guy you had on the other day the non-profit uh the felon the prisoner adam adam kramer adam great yeah i do i just dm'd him uh after the show i said hey dude that was awesome great story And we've been talking Back and forth in the DM's He's like where are you located And I told him

Anyways but good shit You're hooking people up man Okay thank you Alright you guys have a good day Bye This looks like just straight Buttery bro shit doesn't yeah it does yeah yeah it's definitely got the vibe and the glasses too something's weird about her bathing

suit cut here hmm do you see that like the way it comes in there yeah like by where thigh and her vagina and i think that isn't that a cut like isn't that called like a bikini cut? Oh, I don't know. I just screwed up. Talk about saying stuff and feeling dumb afterwards. I don't know. That's a crazy top. Oh, shit. That is an incredible top. I don't – these are all – I don't see – I don't know how this – i don't know how they promote promiscuity but this um i i the

bodies that they use on their website are fucking awesome yeah i mean they're selling bathing suits and sports bras you know look at there's kind of a flatter butt there's a fucking like a badunka dunk that hangs over the seam and then here's just a big wide one yeah that's diversity that is diversity yeah the bathing suits look dope i would i'm actually gonna show my uh wife these i don't know if you're trying the boys or the girls but i'm gonna actually show my wife these i fucking love i i fucked up the other day i told my wife oops careful savvy i already showed my address. Did you see the text I sent you? No. Oh, God. I was like, dude.

Maybe people are going to send me birthday presents now. I did that on purpose so people would send me birthday presents. Tomorrow's my birthday. I know. Dude, you want to have to edit that out. You can totally see your address on the show. I'm like, timestamp. We're going to make a snip.

Yeah, soon. Oh my goodness. All right. It was actually the two-year anniversary of us doing the podcast together, too. When? Oh, it was? 13th, I think. Oh, happy birthday.

That's so sweet yeah if we mark the exact rule as the first one which i do believe was it's actually scheduled by savannah when i had her helping us out before i took the reins um that was on march 13th i think um has your has your has grace ever had any um issues with um relationship the intimacy that we've built in our relationship no there's only been two times like as far as you and i like talking on the phone and stuff yeah just in no close we've become in two years no she'll give me shit like the other day when we had the awards party and somebody was like where's matt and then she just out of nowhere goes probably on the phone with seven and then enough, everybody turns and then we're on the phone. But anything real, anything?

No, there was just the one time when she actually was upset when you were like, Hey, let's do the podcast the day before you get married. And I was like, yeah, that sounds awesome. And I brought all my stuff. And she was like, Hey, don't do a podcast on the, on the weekend wedding. Like, just give me that. You could do it on Monday. And I was like, okay. And in my mind, I'm like, you're going to be asleep anyways. You know, did we do it anyway? Yeah. And that was on me. Like I could have said something, did you get in trouble? She was a little upset. Yeah. Because she was like, I wanted to get up, have a cup of coffee, walk down to the beach in the morning. In my mind, I'm like, you're not doing this before nine. And like, we'll be wrapped up by nine. Right. And so

we were sitting outside and we, and I was on the patio. So we had the beach in the background and I could see into the, um, the whatever the room we had. And so I was like, okay, I'll go kind of watch. And if I see the lights come on and she's awake, like I'll wrap up here and just be like, see, it all worked out. And instead she got up earlier than I had anticipated and like came out and i was like oh that's right i remember that yeah and i was like okay i'll wrap it up are you going on a walk she's like i'm going on a walk you could do whatever you want and i was like ah so so those aren't those aren't those but there's no there's no theme no there's not attention there yeah she seems cool as shit no um and she she's always been so great to me uh i i do think though that in you know there are a lot of people out there who

have relationships with people especially long-term relationships where um like i have some pretty intense relationships with a lot of people i have a pretty intense relationship with you i have a pretty uh I have a relationship with obviously, uh, Greg, pretty intimate. There's a handful of people that I have these intimate, close relationships with that I talk to a lot. Um, uh, Andrew Hiller. Um, I, uh, yesterday, yesterday I went to coffee with my family and we were at the coffee shop for an hour and I was speaking to Andrew the whole time time and i don't even know like one thing that happened there um and my wife never says anything to me ever like it's like just like um and what made me think of this today and i do not know josh's wife at all zero

but i was trying to picture i was trying i was trying to think why had doesn't josh bridges have a mal o'brien like if i was an athlete i was like i would seek this motherfucker out like if i was like a tutor magda like just some young kid who just got like if i was just free and fit as shit right i'm a james sprague if i'm'm just some young, free fucking dude who's got nothing going on except his goal in life. You know what I mean? Then I started thinking, I wonder what would happen to Josh's – I wonder if Josh can do that. We talked about it on the show. He said he's open to it.

He wants to do it. He thinks he can do it i was surprised that he was open about it because i do i do think that in the case of like what matt's doing with like mal like that's 100 commitment you know what i mean like he might as well be training himself for the crossfit games a little bit you know other than he could switch gears faster meaning like when he's done with the training session you have to go to so-and-so's you know social gathering you could just take off and go because you're not stressing about recovering or you're eating or you're sleep a little bit more. But I think that, no, that that's a really tough thing to do. And you have to, I mean, you're, you're kind of getting married to that person for, uh, at least a season's worth of,

of, uh, time. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That would be the minimum you could do. It is like CrossFit game season ends and you've already made the commitment. Okay, after this year, I'm going to go to Sevon's and I'm going to blah, blah, blah, and just hang out there and train. And that's a big commitment. Yeah. And he's got two kids too. That's a whole – I mean – But if you take on an athlete and you're going to be good at it, I'm guessing it has to be your everything. Like you're available for your athlete 24 hours a day.

This, cause this person wants to go to the top of the mountain, right? Right. And, and to a certain extent that that has now become your responsibility. And, and so if you're not willing to really take your part of that seriously, um, then either it won't work right away. Or if you don't, if you don't really know what you're getting yourself into when you sign up, it could just harm your other relationships like with his wife or with his kids or the other responsibilities if he leans too far into the athlete. I don't think you want to be the downfall, not you, Matt, who's a rhetorical you. I don't think you want to be the downfall of a great human being.

Meaning if you're going to be with someone great then you just that line get in where you fit in i mean that's that's what it is get in where you fit in and it's like i got i i bet you i bet you sammy knows that better than anyone or um or uh hillary froning you know what i mean just like hey like do you want to be along for the ride or fucking not right i would feel or and if you're if you don't want to be but you want the person then basically i think you're going to have a shitty relationship i don't think there's one person on planet earth is like yeah i um i've i've carved out an hour every day where matt has to spend time with me at this time.

And if he doesn't, like, I think deep down inside, he hates you. Yeah. I mean, have you heard the thing that PBD talks about when he was going, like, getting a counselor or a therapist with him and his wife when they first started? Not because there was any issue. They were just kind of seeking it. And he went to the first one. He goes, how long have you been married for? And he was like 35

years. And he goes, wow. And he goes, let me tell you, here's the secret to success. The long marriage is every night at 6 p.m. we are together as a family at the table eating dinner. And he kind of goes, oh, okay, well, what do you do? And he goes, well, I've been a teacher and my wife is a teacher. And he goes, okay. And he handed him cash for the session, goes, we're done here and walks out. And the wife is like, his wife's like, wait, what are you doing? And he goes, okay. And he handed him cash for the session goes, we're done here and walks out. And the wife was like, his wife's like, wait, what are you doing? And he goes, that's just not our life. There's no way I'm going to be home at 6 PM every night for dinner. Like, so this guy isn't going to work out for the advice. And so with the thing with your wife, Kansas, Rich wasn't CrossFit Games champion. Right. Like that kind of like slowly built in the relationship. So that wasn't kind of part of the deal when they got together.

Now she might've known Rich as that person and been like, okay, this guy is dedicated and has discipline that not a lot of other people have. So he's special. Like, and I'm going to have to kind of go along with the ride for that to a certain extent. But like Sammy came into the relationship when Matt was already like full steam ahead. So she kind of fit herself into his lifestyle a little bit more knowing what she was getting into.

Then Hillary kind of had to kind of adapt as they moved along, right? Yeah. And that's an interesting one because my mom will say to me or my wife will say to me um hey let's do uh dinner with the family tonight the whole family because they know if they don't say that i won't do it i'm doing other shit and and i have no problem saying i can't tonight and they never make me feel guilty and actually i like it when they ask me and that's an art form on their part to not make me to to ask me something and not have an expectation i like it when they ask me and that's an art form on their part to not make me to, to ask me something and not have an expectation. I like it. And then I also like it when I do do it. You know what I mean? Like my wife will be like, Hey, we're having dinner tonight at six 30. Can you join us? And I'll be like, yeah, I can. Or no, I can't. She's like, okay, no, there's a class I want to take today at 11. Every day there's like some sort of class she'll want to take somewhere, yoga, Pilates, CrossFit.

She'll go around town. And I know she needs to do that for her mental health, her physical health, but also for her professional health because she trains other people in CrossFit and breathing classes and yoga and all that. And so she'll say to me, hey, at at 11 30 i have an appointment to go do this and like i'll purposely be like okay i can adjust all i'll immediately think how can i adjust all my shit to make that work for her and it's just it's just a relationship yeah and if i can't i can't but i would never make her feel bad she does i i don't ask i guess the thing is don't ask your mate if you want a world-class fucking achiever as a mate don't ask them to do shit for you with expectations and don't be afraid to get turned down 99 out of 100 times yeah and if I didn't want to be with

my wife I wouldn't be like what more does she fucking need than that you know what someone did to tell me though that was scary as shit I was I was actually do you know Garrett Glinton is the lady we had on the podcast? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was talking to her the other day on the phone, and she said something kind of insightful to me. She said women know before they're – women, before they break up with a guy, will emotionally already and physically leave the relationship. Holy shit. I just had this conversation with grace. And I'm like, because I was talking about how this girl left me one time.

And I just, I didn't even see it coming. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you were like, wait a minute. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, and she's like, no, she's like women are it's wild like that. She's like, we'll completely left the relationship. And then the last thing we'll do is take ourselves out of it. I'm like, holy shit. That's funny because we just had, and part of the reason why my schedule has been so crazy last two weeks is one of my main coaches that took 15 to 17 hours of coaching in the

gym each week. He recently just moved to Santa Rosa. He, he got his girlfriend pregnant and took off to go, you know, work a job that will support that kind of. And so anyhow, he's been with me for, since the start, like he, you know, we've kind of groomed him and over the time and stuff, younger guy. I don't think you can use that word anymore. Oh, okay. Yeah. You're right. Or maybe we did groom him. I don't know. We trained him. We trained him. We trained him up.

And anyhow, him leaving was a big deal to the gym. So leading up to it, Grace was upset about it and stuff like that. We had this conversation. She's like, well, I already emotionally kind of go through that right away as opposed to me. I think two or three weeks will go by. Then I'll be like, fuck, where's Dylan? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then she's over. Three weeks ago she's like he's he's gone get over that like you know you didn't deal with that already so that day leading up and a couple

fridays ago the last friday the open we kind of had his going away party and stuff and so she was super upset leading up into it and and it was a little emotional when he left and the rest of us like myself and albert and the other coaches are kind of like all the guys are like yeah whatever and then like just now about two weeks later two and a half weeks later we're like yeah you could kind of feel that is that he's absent you know it's a little bit different it's a little bit different when we work when we do our workouts together as coaches it's a little bit obviously my schedule is much different now because i went from coaching three hours a week to 17 no shit yeah you're hardly around anymore i miss you it's been yeah i miss you too it's been

it's been rough you know how much like the emotions i go through when i'm like watching or listening to the show too you're like fuck i need to be on there yeah and then other times like i'm like sitting here like something like this is cool like we got a really fucking cool show and like listening to it and being like an audience ever has been really cool but the fear of like not being involved or like hanging out in the background and stuff has, has kind of sucked a little bit, but it's all good. When do you, so what are you going to do? We, well, I've already talked to somebody yesterday, uh, about coming in to potentially do a coach and I got a little deal in the works. I can't necessarily share it here yet, but, um, I could talk to you about a little bit afterwards, but I, I have some plans to get that

figured out. Uh, she didn't even want to try to repair anything done yeah that's how they leave uh you look you're talking about my ex yeah it's a way i mean obviously this is a sweeping um uh generalization um but yeah uh that is um it was good for the garrett told me that too not that i have any concern my wife would ever leave me but it Made me want to like check in more And I think it's okay to have a healthy Dose of fucking Fear I would fucking Suck it would rock me if my wife

Left me I would not you know One of the things I wouldn't want to do it is because I wouldn't want to talk about it on this show I've Thought about that too like if this Fucking chick left me I would not want To talk about it on the show yeah Uh seven I'm mailing you a pocket pussy that looks like a foot oh it's called a vajankle oh no no it's called a vajankle and thank you i appreciate it well what everyone should mail me something just mail me something just. Just do it. Go to the store today. Break out that credit card you never use.

I like how I'm the most nervous out of that happening. I instantly was freaking out about it and stuff. And you're like, yeah, hopefully they mail me something good. I'm like, fuck, we're cutting that out. The rest of you assholes, you need to forget that happened. So, Evan, would you do a podcast to all the places you've traveled around the world showing off your pictures? I think people would dig that um i don't know about right now i'm really tripping uh mlk on uh attend the this idea of attention lately like ever since i heard uh chris rock do

the thing i'm re reworking my whole thing why are you afraid of it i don't want attention for attention's sake and there's people who want attention for attention's sake did you see the thing yet the the chris rock stand-up uh i watched a clip of it so i haven't seen the whole thing but i've seen the part where he's talking about like his wife when he's like you get cheated on and then she interviews you the person who got cheated oh yeah that part's brutal yeah that was rough poor will smith but um but basically there's people there's four ways to get attention show your ass um which we see all over instagram today and for me that's just getting attention for attention sake yeah and then there's there's a become infamous that's a release a sex tape then there's

be super talented that's the part like i that the part also like where I think you're adding value to people's lives. That's like if I get – like I only want to get attention if I'm adding value to people's life. I don't want attention for attention's sake. Yeah. Zero. It seems preposterous. It seems like that's the – and then the fourth thing is to play the victim. Horrible also. Right. and then the fourth thing is um to play the victim and horrible also right um but but doing all four

is uh i i i can't lie i kind of respect the game at that level like yeah it's pretty it's pretty fucking crazy i think the attention for attention have you ever heard the the phrase when people like will say oh i would never want that kind of money that's fucking stupid i wouldn't want to make i don't want to make that kind of money i wouldn't we're not i'm not i don't need that much money right and so what i just think is like you just haven't planned shit all the way through and i think it's the same thing with like attention what do you mean you just haven't planned shit all the way through meaning like if i'm just gathering money for the sake of gathering money and I'm not going to yield that to help other people or to take away some burdens from my family. Right. Cause like if you're really rich problems just become minor

inconveniences, like, like short of like terminal illness and, you know, like catastrophe with accidents, like everything else is like oh this happened like no big deal we'll just pay for it like like this weather like one of my rental properties uh has a leak in the roof no but minor inconvenience but not for me for me i'm gonna have to be like okay that's gonna be like that might be five thousand bucks and like that's gonna cause me some problems right and now you're thinking about it tanya yeah i'm thinking about it yeah okay what are we gonna do yeah what are we yeah that's gonna like affect but if you're rich as shit it's nothing it's just about it. Yeah. What are we going to do? Yeah. What are we? Yeah. That's going to affect you. But if you're rich as shit, it's nothing.

It's just an inconvenience. You just have to deal with the call and write the check. Right. Yeah. I had a friend one time. His fire alarm went off. Instead of getting up to change the batteries, he went to the Four Seasons. OK.

Well, that's an extreme example. Until someone came over and changed the battery. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I'll just get a room. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's the same. Like, I have my uncle's stuff that a room yeah yeah it's it's the same like we i have my uh uncle stuff that i've talked about on here that's really like well off and they always made the joke like oh the airline lost your bag it's a great excuse to go shopping at your new place and i'm like for me i'm devastated yes yes i'm like i can't replace all that that's my food money while i'm here i'm so rich good that makes me happy to hear that that's awesome is that a picture of oh that's that's awesome. Is that a picture of, Oh, that's,

that's him in a squat. Sorry. I saw that icon photo and I thought it was something completely different, but I've never noticed that he was in a squat like that. That changes my whole impression of him. I never knew what he was doing. That's too deep. Yeah.

Too deep. Yeah. It's too, too far there, but I hit that. Isn't there a nice cute song. I hit that shit so deep. I put that ass to sleep.

Yeah. Regulators. Is that what it is i think so i think so what did he say i'm i have the foot in my mouth disease yeah that's me um so it's probably wrong are you gonna say something go ahead i was just gonna loop the whole thing back together and say that the attention for the attention's sake is like just chasing a dollar to try to get rich without actually planning all the way through and saying, why do I want this attention? What am I going to use when I harnessed it? And like, what am I going to point that out and do with it? So if you don't have that planned all the way through and you're like, well, I'm just getting attention. I'm like, well, why? And you're just like, I don't know. I like the likes or it makes me feel good or something like that for sure is going to end in flames. But if you're like, oh, well, I'm getting all this attention and I'm pointing it towards my OnlyFans and now I'm making a million dollars a year. And I finally, my family's out of financial

duress and my cousin who just got sick, I was able to help her. Then all of a sudden you're like, wow, okay. So you did garner all that attention, but then you were able to utilize it in a way that added to everybody around you. As opposed to if you don't have a plan like that and you're just like, well, I want attention. Why? So I could be famous. And I get like that.

You know, it's going to end in disaster. Horrible. This is a good thing here too. Doesn't want attention. Mail me gifts for my money. Yes. Mail me gifts for my birthday. I don't know.

That's the Tupac song. Fuck the fame. All I want is the money. Send me the gifts. And so, and so taking that back, All I want is the money. Send me the gifts. And so, and so taking that back, do I want to show like part of me? Yeah. I'd love to show my, like tell you all the story. I love sharing the stories of my life with you guys, but, um, and I would love to show you crazy pictures and, um, but, but, but it's, I'm reassessing how, where the value is, uh, Janelle Winston. I think there's an inherent breakdown in communication between men and women where a woman thinks she's communicating very clearly

and the dude has no idea what you're talking about i'd agree with that i mean it is the dude's or the the girl's obligation i mean i don't know if obligations are a word if you want the relationship to work you better speak up about that hey i don't understand hey i don't understand in plus i'm mitigating the gifts thing is i'm mitigating the stupidity i'm trying to fucking process the stupidity that i gave out my address on the air so bear bear fucking with me like like come on you're like i accidentally showed my asshole and now I'm trying to like talk about how beautiful my asshole is. And like, you're making fun of me for, for being a bragger. It's like, no, I'm just trying to mitigate damage.

Just trying to smooth it over. Right. Yeah. Smooth it over. Give a brother a break. To Janelle's point, I do think there's very, like, I always find that when Grace is going over stuff and it's our relationship has this another relationship has another layer that we manage a business together. And she has her own branch of the business with the nutrition stuff.

She's actually at Stanford Hospital in Palo Alto yesterday. She's bringing her whole entire nutrition reset program to Stanford Hospital. Wow, congratulations. That's dope. Yeah, it's a pretty big deal. We're excited about it. That's the best – for those of you who don't know, that's the best hospital on the western side of the fucking western hemisphere. That hospital is the shit. Like if anything really bad happens to you, you go there.

Like they have specialists there for like shit that you don't even know exists. Yeah. Diseases. It's a crazy place. Okay, go ahead. Sorry. Yeah. It's a crazy place. Okay, go ahead. Yeah, and not to break too far off of a tangent of that, but you should see like when Grace gets speaking about their nutrition with them and all those healthcare professionals, you could see the craziness of their thinking untangle. Because all of a sudden it's about they're only discussing about them and they're coming with questions. they're only discussing about them and they're coming with questions. And the way that she's answering it is very like delicate, but it also pushes right up against like the practices that

they're basically like offering to other people. So it's, it's funny to watch her go through those conversations and how she's able to kind of not necessarily convert, but just people are like, Hey, we could cut out all this bullshit that you're basically prescribing all these drugs and everything else. And we're going to talk about the real cure because you actually want to help yourself. So this is how we do with nutrition. So it's pretty funny. But anyways, as we're discussing stuff, whether it be on the business side or just our relationship and stuff is I'm very solution orientated. So like if you come to me and you're like, Hey, this happened, I'm really pissed off about it and blah, blah, blah, blah. My mind doesn't go to, okay, let's just run in a circle and play a blame game or

talk about the problem till the end of death or keep passing the hot potato of blame. My thing is, is like, what's the solution, right? Like how could we focus our efforts towards just like solving the problem or making sure this doesn't happen again. And so a lot of the times when she gets venting about something with the gym, I'll immediately start like giving solutions. And she's like, I don't want a fucking solution. I just want you to listen to what I'm saying i think i'm more like her and in my mind my wife will give me solutions too i'm like listen motherfucker i'm processing some shit right here and so yeah my wife's funny because right away i'm like okay well when you guys had the conversation she's like don't tell me what to say or how to say it just listen to what i'm saying and i'm like okay and so we have two different

really lines of thinking there or i don't like i'm like okay and so we have two different really lines of thinking there or i don't like the solution like i'll be like blah blah blah she's like maybe you should do one less show a week i'm like what and i'll stop out of the room like fuck off i'm pissed yeah yeah and i'm pissed now i really try to when i talk about issues or if i'm dealing with conflict at the gym the first thing i try to do is just like isolate the issue and then separate ourselves from the issue so that way we could talk about it without having too much of a feelings or identity involved in it. Just kind of like, Hey, here's us. And we're, we're looking at the problem. And then how do I move in a straight line to, for a solution for that problem? As opposed

to like, from my experience, women usually like to kind of discuss their feelings around it, kind of take you down this windy path of like why they feel that way why it's frustrating why it's fitting and then that kind of is their solution at the end of it and like i feel like we didn't reach any tangible goals like who's executing what and she's like no we're good now i got to talk about it and i just got to get it out of my chest and i'm okay and i'm like yeah i feel i am too yeah i'm such a woman i'm such a proud i'm such a proud strong woman okay um a friend a friend of mine the other day came up to me and said hey my kids are using the word douchebag and they're calling people douchebags i know exactly where it's going to and i'm like yeah and they're like and they learned it from your kids. They never said that.

And they've been with your kids for three days and now they call everyone douchebag. Oh, all right. So yesterday, one of my kids is explaining to my wife that they know that they're short, that my kids know that they're short, like shorter than their peer group. Right. Okay. that they're short that my kids know that they're short like shorter than their peer group right okay and my wife says what makes you think that why do you say that and she goes because so and so and so and so told us and i'm like so i want to call i want to call that parent and be like hey your kids your douchebags let my kids know that they're short right right i just love this like you your your kids explain to my kids that they're short and they're gonna that's gonna be now their pathology for the rest of their fucking life

rest of their life yeah which actually the truth is i really don't care i hope they fucking use that to conquer the world i hope they fucking get little man's disease and just take over but anyway but i just think it's so funny there's like just levels to the game yeah like there's all these idiots who were worried about just the fucking dumbest shit and they just don't see the fucking big picture now don't get me wrong you want your kid that you don't want your kid just saying a bunch of swear words and shit but like worry about some really um uh a big big picture things of how the universe works so i was talking i was actually talking with brian about this yesterday brian friend one of the ideas that he expressed was is that his dad paid for his tuition and whatnot right in college and he explored the

idea of like hey i wonder what it would have been like if i wouldn't have had um my dad pay for my tuition and pay for my apartment and i could have just uh seen what it was like to struggle yeah which is funny because then you just don't don't withdraw the money and there you go but well that's the other conversation so okay my dad was generous to me, and I didn't – so I lost the opportunity for struggle is what he was saying. Then later on, he worked for a CrossFit gym called CrossFit Redline, I think, and they didn't fulfill their obligation, and they didn't pay him. I had told him this kind of this snarky saying, if you stop – if you don't thank God for the gifts he gives you, God will quit giving. And you can – and then Halpin responded with God is all-loving. Well, I didn't even mean God.

I don't even know what God means. The universe, the karma, what you put in is what you get back. Yes, yes. What you ask for just might come true. Right. Yes, yes. Be careful what you ask for. It just might come true. Right. And so then I explained that the reason why you didn't get paid at Redline is because you didn't want the money.

And he's like, well – and then Brian and I were talking. Well, that was a different situation. It's a different situation, but at that point, you have to go to the 200,000-foot view and understand. Start to be like, wow, does the universe really work like this? Yeah. start to be like wow does the universe really work like this yeah the universe does not care whether it's your dad or what the contract said on the paper if you don't want the money it's gonna make sure you don't get the money you got what you asked for yeah you get what you ask for you hate really you hate people who drive lambhinis. No problem. I'll make sure you

never get one. You have you, you, you, your story is, is that women have it harder than men. I am the most benevolent God ever. And I will make sure that women have it harder than men and that you can live out that story because i you have to see this is how the universe is operating it's not like hey you think men are have it easier than women and i'm going to stop making it that way i'm going to keep it that way because I want to validate your story and your existence. I am the benevolent God. And until you see that, you're just going to keep getting ass pounded. Yeah. But that's what you want.

Yeah. You just want to get ass pounded. Well, I didn't want that ass pounding. I wanted it in that room over there but instead i got it over here you don't get to choose and the other thing going back to what you're saying about people being able to zoom out to see the larger picture there the fact going back look at look at look at look at look at that's not sorry sorry he didn't want free money he was okay with the money he should have gotten because he earned it that

that's all illusion yeah There was no free money. There was no money you earned. You're caught in the illusion. It's not operating like that. It's hard for people to get it because if you zoom out, you would realize that what's more important in the scenario that you said with your kids, the fact that they heard the word douchebag, thought it was funny, and then repeated it is it an inconvenience will you be a little turned off by maybe that came out of the kid's mouth sure but you could easily correct that be like hey look i know you hear the other kids do it and you know there's an appropriate place for words like that but by and large you don't say that it's disrespect

for the doors blah blah blah right but you can't go back to your boys and say hey what they were saying about you kids being short isn't true and just forget about it and it's only appropriate sometimes because now that's stuck with them and so they've already started telling that but i'd be lying right then i'd really be fucking them up yeah so one was a superficial like hey don't use that word right and the other one was a deep piercing potential like insecurity lighter because you don't know what you you know you don't know you're different when you're just cruising with the other crowd until someone says like hey you're different than us and we all think that's funny now all of a sudden you're like oh and you're going to carry that burden potentially some people never get past that ever and that's why we

see this world of i need to fix myself on the outside so i could feel a certain way on the inside and it was funny because you already felt your certain way on the inside, but society and what people said in those things that you held on to, actually, then you internalize from the outside. So changing the outside isn't going to change what happened in here because you decided to take those in process and internalize them. They were given to you. You weren't born with them.

So it's kind of funny. And by the way, you guys you guys are going to be in such a ride with those boys when they're teenagers because not only are they going to be like rambunctious very capable adolescents which means they're just going to get into everything right but they're going to be sharp as a whip because they already are like they're like they're quite the smart asses like their level of razzing is next level like when we were when we were at drinks the other day and you were like look look look the boys don't even care about you anymore susan they're all over hill and now you're old

news and then obby just turns and goes yeah we call you who's it now like who are you anyway that was like you gotta get juiced up you got they look it does scare me a little bit that how much i i know that they're picking up off the fact that he's i mean he's very nice but he oozes testosterone oh for sure but it was just funny like i mean how old's obby now eight is he yeah i mean for an eight-year-old to like make that connection that quick toss that name back out me and then connect it to something that he was just kind of hearing off to the side and knew that it was going to be a cohesive joke, like poking fun at me, like, yeah, we are over you.

We like this guy now. It was brilliant. I was like, holy crap. Yeah, there are going to be some smart-witted young men. That's for sure. God, I want some hardship in my life. Not much yeah i like that i mean that's another example too about when you at when you so um hey i want some money and what you get is more desire to want money that's like one of the fucking traps yeah that's why that that that uh patrick bet dav David book is so good.

What was the one? The five steps to – Your next five moves. Yeah. Your next five moves. There's an underlying theme of already realizing that everything – I think it might even say it in the Bible somewhere that everything you have, everything you want is right in front of you. You're staring at it. Yeah. front of you you're staring at it yeah and that when you say you want something you're putting space between you and that item and and then and then what will happen is that that want will just

be something that the universe will hear that you want that not that you actually want the object that comes after one but that you like this desire of wanting and it will give you more wanting and um and you'll never get to to to it uh this is a clock the appropriate appropriate place for douchebag was in 2012 fair isn't that interesting the guys uh makes a time reference and then his avatar his profile is also a clock yeah yeah i got some such interesting people in the chat it's awesome matt has been on has hasn't been on the show or has been on the show so little lately we may start calling him who's also yeah that's like that's like when your parents won't let you go on the camping trip that all your friends are going to and then your friends make fun of you that you can't go you're like taking it twice it's like yeah i really want to be on the show and then your friends make fun of you that you can't go. You're like taking it twice.

It's like, yeah, I really want to be on the show. And then it's like, oh, you can't because you got all these other, you know, work obligations and stuff going on. And then everybody's like, yeah, yeah, you're not on the show. Like, damn, I it's sunny today. I'm getting ready to go to the skate park. I want to show you one thing before I go to the skate park. It's gross over here it is yeah it got super

how do i make um instagram bigger how does how does i just zoom in and then caleb has like a better zoom function where he he'll actually pull it in a little tighter if i just double click my mouse which is kind of weird, it pulls me in. If I if I hit the command plus button. Oh, there you go. OK. OK, look at this. This this is just.

Oh, is that too big? Oh, yeah, that's too big. OK, here we go. With this teaching these chicks the most valuable lesson in sports, when train's coming through get the fuck off the track she just pulled a self alley-oop in rugby i bet she could rep 405 on the squat rack and has a better 40 than any of these chicks and follow me fucking idiots and i'm gonna be live in miami la jolla that chick's fucking that that chick kicked the ball to herself is teaching these chicks the most valuable lesson in sports. When the train's coming through, get the fuck off the track.

What are these other girls doing? She just pulled a self alley-oop in rugby. I bet she could rep 405 in her school. Look at, how about that one girl? You can't take their legs out. How about that one girl who can clearly get the ball, but she just doesn't. Birth is teaching these chicks the most valuable lesson in sports. When the train's coming through, get the fuck off the track.

Okay. Just pull the self out. Look at this chick right here. Yeah, you think she wants to get in the way of that other chick? Hell no. Like run over and get the fucking ball. No way. She's going to get bulled and rugged.

Look at that. She just stopped. Fuck yeah, she did. I bet she could rep 405 on the squat rack and has a better 40 than any of these chicks. And follow me,

fucking idiots. And I'm going to be live in my... Crazy. Yeah, I don't know if I'd get in her way either. She's just going to plow you down.

If you stroke IG, it'll get bigger. Stevon called me a dickhead last podcast, so the kiddos get it honest. All right. That's funny. Tomorrow, we have the affiliate owner who's owns crossfit santiago i think it's the first affiliate in chile be cool maybe the first affiliate in south america uh jessica valenzuela the last thing i want to see before i die is her coming at me

see before i die is her coming at me got a point all right thank you matt for coming on great so yeah i was glad i was able to make it are you on tomorrow's show yeah okay uh hey i want to corral these fuckers for friday saturday sunday and talk about quarterfinals it'll be fun did you see i put all your stuff on the on the calendar okay and then afterwards i was cracking up and i was like i wonder if that was like a bit and i just it just went right over my head no no no it's good i scheduled all of them so they're in there and everybody got invites i think we should invite grunler yeah him and anytime him and chase go on it's always a added bonus i was thinking we'd do grunler Halpin, JR, and Brian. Yeah, and maybe move Halpin towards the end so that way all the data's in so he could have some time to do some cool stuff with it for us. Unless he already has it.

Yeah, I'd say we just fucking see what he does. Yeah, sure. Just right off the – and we'd just do one-hour shows like – yeah, Bill is the shit. And do one-hour shows like on Friday, Saturday, Sunday. It's going to be hard scheduling everyone. Yeah. Got three of them.

We could probably get it. Just put it in that. Yeah. That's why I have four and just hope three show up. Yeah. Just put it that big text thread and be like, Hey, whoever's available for this,

come on in. Bye. Bye. Peace and love. Peace.