The Sevan Podcast - #842 - CrossFit Quarterfinals Trolling the Leaderboard Day 1

Episode Date: March 18, 2023

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Normal day. Bam, we're live. Mike Halpin, hi. J.R. Howell, Brian Friend, Andrew Hiller. You don't, Halpin. I've only done this three times. Sorry. You don't say hi back.

It was actually kind of funny it was perfect okay fine it was perfect Andrew Hiller, J.R. Howe and the executive producer of the 7-1 podcast Matthew Sousa and behind the scenes always

Mr. Beaver Caleb the open is done Mr. Beaver. Caleb. The Open is done. The Open is the first event which helps CrossFit find the fittest human being on planet Earth. No one argues that that is the fittest human being on planet Earth. planet earth it's also an interesting event because it's a community event for the thousands of gyms all over the globe on all uh seven continents with a single mission ideally of helping people making people's uh dna express itself in the greatest finest most beautiful um happiest i guess now um way possible so that it can move large loads quickly and uh so we went through that we went

through that process and and that's supposed to be a tie between a community event but also a very legitimate serious event i hear a fucking echo who is it who's a very serious it's helping because he's only his third time a very serious event and get a community event that bring takes these three or four hundred thousand people and and we take that 10 or crossfitting takes that 10 and moves them on to the next phase and that phase is the quarterfinals and that's uh where we are at today and the quarterfinals uh started um 26 27 hours ago yesterday at 12 noon Pacific Standard Time, 1145 p.m. Pacific Standard Time to be exact, if I am not correct, if I am correct. So here we are. It's three days of workouts, five workouts total. The first set of workouts were due today at 12 p.m. Pacific Standard Time, and then the leaderboard was supposed to go up at 1 o'clock. today at 12 p.m pacific standard time and then the leaderboard was supposed to go up at one o'clock um the workouts are one two three four and five all the workouts have been released

but workouts one and you can do the workouts in any order but workouts one and two had to be submitted today at noon thank you brian i appreciate the nodding because i'm just totally feeling around in the dark thank you workouts one and two had to be posted today by 12 noon then workouts two and uh sorry three and four by tomorrow at noon and then finally sunday at noon workout five the final workout although you could have done them all already correct correct could you submit all the scores already no i don't think so i was told by somebody that they couldn't submit score i didn't see any options to submit scores for three, four or five until about,

you know, two hours ago or whatever. Okay. So let me ask you, if Caleb were to pull up the leaderboard right now, could we look and see who's winning in North America? Well, there's two regions in North America.

Could we pick one of those? I think we should defer to help from on that okay you don't know anything you say uh because there is just so you know one more one more small thing there are seven regions so so that these let's say these 30 000 athletes this 10 is now broken into seven regions and then from those seven regions um three in totality 300 people will move to the crossfit games to the finals oh no that's not true sorry go on i defer to brian here tell me about the semi-finals sorry jesus 300 total men and 300 total women will go to seven different semi-finals and then 40

of those will each will advance to the games okay so of those 300 men and 300 women those will be split over seven regions around the planet can we see those regions can i go to like north america west the pasadena um semi-final and see who's who's uh currently most likely to go there yes and no okay i i believe i on the app you can do it on the website. You cannot. I think that there is supposedly there is some kind of a glitch on the backend with the website and that will be updated on the website at some point.

So, so what am I looking at there? And that leaderboard, that's just the whole world smushed into one. Yes. And this is also a relevant leaderboard because it's this leaderboard, I believe help. And that will will award points towards worldwide ranking. Wow. Okay. Just for shits and giggles here, apparently there's a glitch on the online leaderboard. It's not sorting by region. Have to use the app. Okay, thank you, Anne.

Let me ask you this. Can I look at this Mal O'Brien, Brookwells, Emily R rolf alexis raptus uh fee sagafi those are all north america how about this chick leah storin 19 year old girl or 20 year old girl from norway uh extremely proficient in gymnastics uh strength will be a limiter for her so i she would i would expect this ranking to drop drastically tomorrow but there's definitely some things that she's amazing at and certainly we can see the first workout was one of those uh ariel lowen annika career let me see nine and ten por favor uh daniel brandon okay so only two europeans and the rest north americans are currently in the top 10 all right yeah it's a good mix of east and west okay okay can i just see the men really

there's a decent amount of european women in the second 10 though okay and we'll get back to that i just want to give a super big picture and see if i can get an understanding understanding of the landscape here kind of feel it out uh in the men and once again uh this isn't broken by region a top 10 uh justin madaris uh scott tetlow, Spencer Panchik, Patrick Vellner, Noah Olson, Victor Hoffer. Who's this guy? Yeah, we'll talk about him. Okay, but not American, France. The winner of the first World Cup, and we have been talking about him, actually.

You'll know his name eventually. This Victor Hoffer, he's the real deal? Yeah, he wants to come on the show. I told you that earlier today okay uh colin uh boss hard great great last name uh enrico enrico zanoni uh cole sager and mr jeffrey adler okay so a ton of north americans again boss hard yeah boss that's a great name okay the the workouts were announced we haven't talked about these workouts right these five workouts no we have not okay so i would just like to uh go just very quickly i'm

sure we'll end up doing a programming show but uh hear from uh you guys uh jr any any thoughts on on the five workouts i have not looked at them sorry just to slam you with this but just big picture uh is is this a good um good quarterfinal well then you know they've only been out for like okay so let me rephrase that you don't have to tell me if it's good or bad give me like your thoughts heavy on the gymnastics heavy weights um better for tall people just a kind of a broad sweeping editorial on it. All right. So you've got two, you might call them reciprocal workouts, workouts one and five that are highly dependent upon the last movement, that which is a gymnastics movement,

the nine rope climbs and the 21 wall facing handstand pushups. So I would say that's two workouts to the gymnastics bias. And then you've got two other workouts if and only if you're very proficient at crossover single unders that are essentially just engine tests, basic capacity tests, the 20 minute AMRAP of rowing and abdominal movements, and then dumbbell snatches, dumbbell lunges, and crossovers. And then lastly, you have basically a strength test. So you've got a heavy barbell for 15 reps under some high power output, leg fatigue conditions. So I would say as an overall test, if and only if you're proficient at all of them, it's very balanced. Two gymnastics, one weightlifting, two capacity. When you say very proficient,

meaning you've trained them before? Correct. So you're saying that there's things in there that if someone hasn't trained, well, I can tell you this. If you have never done a crossover single under or you do not have the correct rope to do them proficiently and or you've never done a wall facing strict handstand push up, then I think those are two very big ifs. And those would say that you can't be proficient because you've never done them before and there are some people that probably got them the first try but i would say that those two movements more so the crossover single under and maybe it's just if you haven't been doing them shame on you so so just just a really quick thing so this is the first i'm hearing this this um uh taylor self wow that's intimately okay two of these tests are a fucking ass pussy i thought he didn't do drugs and alcohol i thought he was like went to the sobriety house is he drinking again

that doesn't even make sense that's like something my kids say i catch my kids you don't put those swear words in those swear words don't go together i love it you didn't even say that was edgy it was an edgy comment yeah that's what it was that's like calling someone like a dick bitch it's like yo that you don't even make sense oh they hit hard you dick bitch yeah it doesn't even make sense or you flip someone off the wrong finger yeah i'm boss hard right now come on taylor you're better than that off at the wrong finger. Yeah, I'm boss hard right now. Come on, Taylor. You're better than that. At the games, they were crossover double-unders. Correct.

Now they're crossover single-unders? Yes. Wow, that's the first time. I've been kind of been paying attention, but this is the first time that I've made that distinction. Okay, and that's why they look different in Adrian's video when when he was counting them it's basically every time you do this it's one two three four five no after after the first crossover has been successfully completed okay all right oh shit wow okay here go. Shit's about to get crazy.

Taylor, hi. Can you hear me? Yeah, I'm taking a deep breath for you. Okay. Let me go to – and do you have a problem with that, JR? You're saying it's a great test if you're proficient in all the movements. I feel like there's a hint of what you're saying that all all i said was it's that it's a very balanced five tests if you're someone who is proficient at all of the movements provided okay so so for example if you've never done call server single unders, or you don't have the right tool to do them successfully, that workout is no longer an engine test.

basic capacity test if and only if you are able to do the cross-server single runners without stopping a bunch. And then if you are doing that, then it just becomes a skill limiting test. And it doesn't really fall into the gymnastics bias, weightlifting bias, or base capacity. But are you saying, sorry, hold on one sec, Taylor. Are you saying that the athletes have not been prepared for this? So that was basically the argument that I walked away with the CrossFit Open. Regardless of whether you like the test or you don't like the test, the community and the affiliates weren't prepared to do it because it was too big of a jump. And that jump fucking made everyone's scores all rattled

relative to their previous 10 years of doing the Open. Do you feel me? Like we went, there was too much of a leap. Are you saying, are you suggesting it's too much of a leap also for the quarterfinals too many new things introduced like i know for a fact and it's only because i don't know what the other four of you are capable of i know there's two people on this show right now that can do crossover single unders all day okay all right and so it's just one of those things like oh yeah i used to jump rope a lot i used to box i boxed for six months just one of those things like, oh yeah, I used to jump rope

a lot. I used to box. I boxed for six months. Like one of the guys at my gym said that today, I used to box for six months. So I know how to do those. But if I never would have boxed for six months, I would have had no clue how to do them. And a lot of people will push back and say, how could you not see this coming? There were crossover double unders. So it was almost like a wake up call. Hey, I should be using this tool for more than just my double under machine, which is what we went over. Adrian quoted as saying, as soon as we saw him in the games, we should know, as soon as we saw it in the games, we should know it's fair game everywhere.

I think, I mean, you know, but okay. Taylor, did you want to jump in and say something? What did you think about the quarterfinals? Big picture. I was, I was just going to note that I felt like a good comparison would be trying to do crossover single runners with a speed rope versus a beaded rope is like trying to snatch a standard barbell with the little thin water plates that go on the sides that's not a standard thickness barbell versus an olympic barbell that spins and has bushings it's just so i mean you can do them and i just think it's a – I just think why.

And I'm good at them. I'm not bad at them at all. I'm great at them. I can do them all day. But I just – why? I think overall I like the workouts. Like using a wrench to put in nails, a thick wrench. You could do it, but why not use a hammer?

I don't know. I think triple unders would have been better. How would you judge? Wouldn't that be hard to judge, though? But before we fall – Hard to judge though? But, but before we, before we fall into this, before we fall into this,

I just want to say, what do you think about the, so Jr saying it's a good workout for test of fitness to get us to the semifinals. Basically. It's good. Unless you're someone who's really fit. And the only reason you don't get to semifinals is because he didn't have a beat a jump rope.

Okay. That's what Jr said. Okay. Um, um, Brian, uh, thought thoughts, really fit and the only reason you don't get to semifinals is because he didn't have a beat jump rope okay that's what jr said yeah i don't okay i don't like that but um brian uh thoughts big picture on these uh quarterfinal workouts for what they're supposed to do grab this next batch this 10 and move them on not 10 specific number per competitive region but i think what i think is that uh when i see the openness here and the quarterfinals this year is that CrossFit has an identity crisis. They don't know what they're doing. They don't know the purpose of this test. Because this test, if you believe that this test is specifically to find the group of people that's qualifying for semifinals, then there's way too many people taking it that have no business taking it. If on the other hand, you know, the point of this is to have the Open be inclusive for everyone and, as a side note, get people to quarterfinals, I think the quarterfinals needs to be redefined.

Because I know people that were livid, crying, whatever, when they saw these tests. And they're like, I want my money back. Like, this is ridiculous. I can't even do three of the five workouts. money back. Like, this is ridiculous. I can't even do three of the five workouts. And to me, that problem is on CrossFit, not with the design of the workouts, but with the barrier to entry being too low compared to the caliber or difficulty of the test. And if you're someone, you know, like, you know, Taylor or JR and a lot of the athletes that they work with, the test is perfectly fine. I mean, it's a challenge. Hiller too. killers. They're not eligible, but certainly what was a couple of years ago, he was a layer deeper.

He knew. Um, but, but anyway, the high level athletes, it is a good test to qualify them for the 10%, but we're talking about 1% of the open athletes that this is a good test for, and maybe another two to 3% that it's a challenging test that will push them in the ways that they need to but then percentages four through ten have no business taking this test okay that's a interesting observation do you agree with that jr so let's do you guys assume that the open should be for everyone we all agree with that but but they've kind of that was what it's advertised as right and then and then if it's advertised then that's what it should be and you guys know i don't like all that scaling shit i think that there should be a fucking open that's for everyone if for some reason you can't

do the fifth workout then you can't do all the fifth workout but but i think they should find a way to make that shit for everyone now what you're saying is you're kind of bringing that to the quarterfinals what what how what no there's five workouts what how many let's say there's 30,000 athletes there of those 30,000 athletes should all of them be able to do four of the workouts is that what you're saying four and a half of the workouts every person that just stood for quarterfinals yeah like brian's saying that a bunch of people can only do two of the workouts because it's just too hard and that's where he's claiming the identity crisis is like either you brought too many fucking people or the workouts aren't right but but you guys are confused well that i think that's why i'm just curious too like is like when you say that like my mind immediately goes to

i can't front squat 225 or 155 from the floor and so that eliminates a group of people um i can't front squat 225 or 155 from the floor. And so that eliminates a group of people. I can't. Clean and jerk 275 or 185. Right. Or I can't do a 25 foot unbroken handstand walk. Those are the three things that just immediately. Yeah. I think everyone who's made this stage can figure out how to do workouts two and four.

No problem. I think everyone who did the open could do workouts two and four as long as the dumbbell was a 50 and 35. But at the square five, there's nothing more. Five probably to a certain point. The deadlifts. Yeah. But, you know. Brian, let me push back here.

They do need to make sure that they cull the herd because the people who go to semifinals are going to have to do some hard shit. Well, remember, remember, yeah, yeah, 100 percent. And for that purpose, I have no issue with this test. I actually think this is a great test to just, you know, overall, I think there's some problems with the administration of the test. But the test itself, I think, is a great test to find the 30 or 60 men and women in every competitive region that you want to compete at semifinals. And I actually think it's a decent evolution from what the open was. The problem is the barrier of entry, because I told you last week that I know people that are competing as a woman in this quarter, in this quarterfinal that cannot do a ring muscle, that cannot do a strict handstand pushup, quarterfinal that cannot do a ring muscle that cannot do a strict handstand push-up and who cannot do a thruster that's over 135 pounds and i feel like just just knowing that that's that

not being able to do any of those things is good enough to make the stage of competition does not equate with the first movements for two or three of these workouts or the first barbell weight or the first gymnastics movement she can't do one muscle up and she made it to the quarterfinals she can't do one muscle up she can't do one the quarterfinals. She can't do one muscle up. She can't do one strict handstand pushup. And she, her max stress was one 27 and she made it to this stage. So that that's,

that's a problem. I think not with her. I mean, she didn't do anything wrong. She did the test. She was going to make it. She accepted the invitation. She paid $50 and she's pissed.

So you're basically saying there needs to be a stepping stone between this and semifinal, because if you think back from open to regional that heat one that used to go you would see people just stand there and stare at the wall or there'd be a stash or a clean that they just couldn't get or maybe they would get one rep so you're saying that shouldn't happen in quarter finals that should happen that type of of buried entry should happen at semi-finals well i i do have one thing to say to brian and that athlete is there have been ring muscle ups and strict handstand push-ups the previous two years in

quarterfinals so if you're spending 50 and expecting them not to be there and getting her personal reaction is whatever but i think i know from uh just talking with people throughout the last day or two that you know she's not alone there are a lot of athletes that made it to this stage of competition and are looking at this like what the hell or take less athletes matt and just to like reiterate i don't have a problem with the test but i think that there's a group of people taking this test that have no business taking this test uh hillar thoughts a big big picture thoughts on the test the filter to get people here sucked, and they take too many people. Okay.

Okay. Does that summarize everybody's thoughts? So you're not – I like it. You weren't digging the open, and if you did dig the open, still too many people got through. Correct. One of the things I like is 2 to 5, and I think that was Maxwell Hodge who said that last year. 2 to 5%? Correct.

I also don't – this is this is maybe a different topic for a different conversation, but I'm also not sure why they went to splitting to 60 and 60 instead of keeping it just 120 people in North America and seating evenly to each semifinal.

I don't know. Brian, is that. I mean, I think this way they have a season laid out is perfect. Yeah, I will say, like, something that – Brian's joking, right? Sorry, Jericho.

Sorry. Something Andrew talked about on his video this morning that I thought was really cool is that, hey, like, just because you don't like the test doesn't mean they're not good tests. It just means you don't like them. And sometimes that's okay. Sometimes people will say, like kind of to Brian's sentiment, you may not like the movements chosen,

but as a whole, it's still a good test. You may not like V-ups or think that they have any kind of place in competitive competition, but that doesn't mean that that is no longer a good engine capacity test just because there are V ups in it. It just means you think maybe there should have just been more GHDs. You see what I'm saying?

So a hundred percent, a hundred percent. Yeah. It's a, and I think Hillary did a good job kind of driving that home, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not good. Essentially. Once Hillary clips that one year, one video per day for every year i think he's relaxed and he

settled into his evolved form he got soft he's transcended youtube i wore my crash show sweatshirt today at the beach uh poke jim seven please tell me to do work to do a workout lizzie go do a workout what the fuck liz it lizzie lizzie uh you got a workout for from self uh um made uh training here's lizzie just some chick here we go lizzie get ready write this down 15 rounds for time uh-huh i like it two devil's press four dumbbell thrusters working for one minute, resting for one minute until completion. Wow. Wait, wait. Uh, so what ends up being seven rounds? No. So it's a 30 minute workout. It's 15 rounds for time of two devil's presses and four dumbbell thrusters.

And you're going to have one minute of work followed by one minute of rest until you complete those 15 rounds. So it's basically a one minute AMRAP by one minute of rest until you complete those 15 rounds so it's basically a one minute am rap one minute rest until you complete 15 rounds it's probably like a 15 minute workout 15 20 how wait what what the fuck how come i don't understand where that's a 30 minute workout it's one minute on and one minute off we're gonna do one you can only do two devil's presses and four thrusters in one minute you pussy no i'm gonna do no i'm gonna do as many as i can in a minute, and then I get a minute off. We allowed you on there.

You have to use compound swear words. You fucking ass pussy, dude. You dick bitch. Wait, listen to me. Listen to me. Just bear with me for a second. You shut it, Bailey. Fucking Bailey.

Listen to me. It's one minute on, one minute off for 15 rounds that's 30 minutes no no but the one minute is an amrap so when you finish your four thrusters there's still going to be time you go right into your two devil press so you might get three or four rounds in a minute then you rest then you would start over where you left off and continue until you completed 15 minutes i'm not doing this workout i don't understand hold me imagine you're 100 calories on the assault bike two minutes on one minute off you see how far you can get and then you take a minute off until you're done with 100 okay someone texted to me and i'll do it he

translated to assault bike for you that was the closest we're gonna get that was good i appreciate that i was already like seeing red uh shanae shanae sorry that's a little discriminatory against taylor it was has nothing to do with you taylor red it's just like uh just common uh poetic phrasing uh shana watson 299 um a money thank you uh cf only fans i beat everyone at my gym who is in quarterfinals in the first two workouts i didn't qualify not all the right people are in because the open workouts because of the open workouts it's like a subtle brag in being a victim at the same time uh david ade david david adeway uh i love that the line was drawn in the sand with the weights and the gymnastics and the quarters i wish it was done in the open so

the right people move on what's he uh what's he mean by that helping do you understand i don't understand do you understand he wishes He wishes it was harder sooner. So, in the Open, that they actually made it more difficult to get through to that 10%. And that's what you're saying, Brian? I think the Open was plenty hard. I just think that

I mean, what did we see? What was the statistic? It was like 45,000 men and 9,000 women were able to do a strict handstand pushup, something like that. But 15,000 women qualified for this stage of competition. So you have 60% of the qualifiers that are able to do one strict handstand pushup, maybe, because maybe they didn't all come from the same region, but just in theory. And at the same time, you had only 30,000 of the men qualified at the same scale out of 15,000 or out of 45,000, they had 150% of the population that could do it. So there's just the great disparity between the skills required to make it in the male competition compared to

the female competition. I love this. This is amazing logic. Look at all the chaos Lizzie has caused by not working out. Come on, Lizzie. Look what you did. Okay. So should we talk about this first? So the first two workouts have been turned in, correct? There you go. Should we talk about that? Do you guys want to just jump to – I'd like to talk about how the athletes did, if you're surprised how they did, what the workouts are, look at the leaderboard. Let's take them one at a time so we can talk about what they are.

Okay. And then how some people did. And then we'll look at the overall results after that. And I'd especially like to know if anyone shit the bed so bad that it's like, ooh, are they, they're in trouble. I could tell you.

Oh, okay, they're in trouble. I can tell you. Oh, okay. Good. Sine Watson, Hiller, please review Grace Walton's Workout 2 video. Wow! Bingo. Thank you. Wow. Is that what I think it is? You're calling someone

out on the podcast to Hiller to go straight to them? For $3. Holy shit. And we thank you for it keep it coming guys give us your money hillar will do a video on whoever we charge we charge for hillar's work at henchmen working hey is that is that that's brutal right is it bad i watched it this morning i don't know if it's bad it's savage why you know who grace walton's is she's crazy it's gracie walton She spelled both her first and last name wrong, but we don't actually know based on that

if it's a good or a bad thing that she wants us to see. I got a workout I invented. I got a workout I invented. Oh, here we go. Everyone can do it, but I can't understand it. Amped Amanda. Everyone can do it. Three rounds for time.

Nine strict muscle-ups. 985-pound squat snatch is easy. Not even everyone who went to the 2019 CrossFit Games could do this workout. What's the min weight on the squat snatch? It's just there are no men and women in Mexico. David Aguilar Vasquez. The worst part about that is 650 Mexican is like four bucks. No, no. I figured out it ends up being $ that's good money yeah that's good that's that's good look at that's good that's good caleb

holy shit that's as much as everyone else donated all all together okay uh when you say you want to look at them well we go one at a time uh mr friend are you talking about the work the workouts or the athletes yeah workouts okay the work okay uh so let's pull up workout number one uh please mr beaver dan beaver you're good uh nine front squats with the heaviest weight nine handstand walks walks, 25 feet, 15 front squats, 15 muscle ups, 21 front squats, 21 chest to wall handstand pushups.

And then the weights are below. It starts with the heaviest and goes to the lightest. Correct. Ascending reps, descending weight. Yep. Now I'm just showing off. Have to take the bar from the floor

and you have to do the handstand walks in unbroken sets of 25 feet don't all jump in at once let's start with Halpin now no one ever expects me to pick on Mr. Halpin Halpin good workout you like it I think I'm the only person here that hasn't done this workout.

No, I have not done it either. I haven't done the workout. Hey, look it. Everyone from Halpin down hasn't done it. Me either. Move, Caleb. There you go. Stack rank us as far as who could do the best in the workout.

Thoughts, Brian? Good test? I think this is a great test for that group of people we're talking about. If you're trying to select people to advance to the next stage, you need a test like this. This is the capacity to move a heavy barbell, to do high-skill gymnastics, and to adapt to some standards laid in the workout that they maybe haven't practiced before. So I think that this workout in particular, for that purpose, is a great workout. In the men's field at the CrossFit Games last year, who's the – sorry, if you're a games athlete, turn this part off –

who's the worst at handstand push-ups? What name just jumps out at you? Who's bad? Hiller, what men are bad spikowski bad spikowski is not bad he's gotten much better he used to be bad freak there's no like laura horvath standout okay that's what i was wondering okay you're talking about brian no one are you talking about specifically wall from the wall-facing deficit in Echo Press last year? Is Jason Carroll not the best in straight handstand push-ups? Who?

Ricky? Jason Carroll, but he wouldn't make the games last year. He's a former. He's the guy who looks like Tom Hanks. This is in 2017. I mean, there's that. They're all amazing. How about Ricky Garrard?

Didn't he shit the bed with that ballistic block? He did not do great on it relative to the other guys at the top of the leaderboard. But I don't remember. Lazar Jukic was having some problems with the standard and his judge in that workout. Other than that, I don't remember anyone really being terrible. There weren't a lot of guys at the games last year where you're like, wow, they suck at handstand pushups. I'm checking it out. Let's see. Halpin. Cole

Greyshaber. Oh, yeah, he sucks at them. Austin Spencer, Dillon Pepper, Alex Vigneault, Brent Fikowski. Those are the bottom of the heap. Halpin, any concerns for any of the men with this workout? Any men who you think should be going to the games who this might have taken them out of contention?

I was just looking at that. Oh, Nikita Katzman. That's my guy. Wow. Nice. So Vigneault is giving you some concerns taking a 450th? Whom are you asking? You were asking me help yeah yeah it's on helping it's okay how

helping gets more dead air time than other people because people can hear his brain working slowly uh yeah uh i was actually sorry i've i have it by where they are day one so i was trying to figure out if i could separate it into the two workouts. And how did, how did miss Laura Horvath doing this? What would be a number that would concern you, Brian, anything?

She did rather well on this, didn't she? Yeah. Laura's fine. The thing that people have to understand this about, about Laura Horvath is that there are, is a very specific type of handstand push-up that she's really really bad at or has been but in most handstand push-up workouts

that are not strict deficit especially with the parallette she's she's fine like she can still fin like have respectable finishes and workouts like that especially when they're paired with with other things that she's great at all All right. Like everything else in this workout. Yeah. I had no idea. I had no idea. I thought you just turn her upside down and she turned off like one of those, you know, those like, no, and it's put it on its back and it falls asleep. No. And it's, it's way overdue. I would really would like to do this. And maybe someone else has done it already is to just gather all of the handstand pushup workouts, the different varieties that she's done. So we can actually show you,

you give her kipping handstand pushups. This is how good she is. Strict handstand pushups, level surface. This is how good she is. Uh, even in turn around face of the wall, she's not that bad,

but if you give her this or this, it's a huge fall off. And that's where we have, that's where she has the problem. And I think that her, her performances in competition directly correlates to the inclusion or omission of that style of handstand push-up. I think it's probably less the implement and more how narrow or wide her hands are allowed to be. Oh, interesting.

Along with the deficit. So just to re-clarify, this list that we're looking at right here, come Sunday, Caleb will scroll down to 300. And when we look at 301, we'll start crying. is the allocation of quarterfinals points for worldwide ranking. That then subsequently has an impact on that strength of field allocation for semifinals. But it has nothing to do with the qualifiers. The worldwide rankings in quarterfinals have nothing to do with the qualifiers. It only matters where you rank in your competitive region. So we'd have to go to each competitive region, which we cannot do right now, and look at 60, and then 61 is where you can get out your box of kleenex gotcha or 30 and then 31 would be the first person out so mike this might be a question for you theoretically we could see

someone who's i guess theoretically you could see someone who's 61st in the world and they're not going to the fucking semifinals. Yeah, I mean, you just called out how many North American men were in the top 10. If you take that down the list, there's going to be North American men well within the top 200 likely that aren't going to be going to the semifinals. Ooh, that's a tough one. But there'll be 200 worldwide. I did find you a guy. It took my head a while to spin. I did find you a guy.

It took my head a while to spin. But Alex Vigneault was 1732, 1,732nd in the first workout. Oh, baby. No, right there it says 450. I think that's in his region. That's in the North America East. Oh, okay, okay. Worldwide, if you look at it on the website, because they're only showing worldwide, it's 1732 with a time of 1322.

Concerns, Brian, that he's not going to the semifinals with a score like that? I mean, basically, if that's 163rd in North America East, that means he's 103 spots out with three workouts to go. So he will need to do very well on the next three workouts. I think he can actually do extremely well in the next three workouts, but, um, yeah, he's going to need to offset that because he's well, well outside the cut line right now. Yeah. And something I think worth mentioning is I think Chase alluded to it a little bit on the live show that did today. There were some very specific standards for the wall facing strict handstand pushups, feet not being able to climb up the wall, legs had to kind of remain straight, they had to be

within the hands. And I'm just very curious, you know, every year for semifinals, we've seen one workout really, really heavily scrutinized that have caused a lot of major penalties. So I can't imagine that that workout isn't going to be one that's reviewed very closely. So I'm wondering how many people like Alex Vigneault will be the beneficiary of a lot of people's videos getting penalized. And I was actually thinking about this because obviously today there's been some confusion about who needs to submit how and videos where and how many and whatever else we know from years past that that or historically crossfit has asked for two of these five workouts to be reviewed and so i was

doing the same thing jr i was like well which i wonder which ones they're going to ask for because you've got i agree like you have a new standard in that critical movement at the end of workout one. You have a new standard with the crossover singles in workout number two, which needed a re-clarification video to explain how to count those correctly. And then you have the new standard with the V-ups, which, you know, it seems like a minor part of that workout, but that's, that's a, that's a movement that I'm one of the people that you described earlier. I think it's a great training movement. I think it's pretty risky to include in the competition and even more risky to include

in an online competition. But if they're only going to look at two, that means that one of those three is going to be left out. And that means that there's a super high likelihood that a lot of people have gotten away with something they would not have gotten away with in a live competition. And whichever one of those workouts is forgotten or not chosen. Maybe Taylor or Hiller can chime in on this. But to me, of all the standards, the one that I think they need to look at is none of the ones we've mentioned. And that's that you have to sit on the back half of the GHD pad. We haven't gotten that work out yet, though.

We've never – yeah, that's right. And we've never had that standardized anywhere other than at the CrossFit Games. And I only know that because in 2021, they briefed everyone the same way and said, hey, you cannot sit – if there's an imaginary line bisecting the GHD pad, you cannot sit on the front of that line. Yeah, that's going to be nuts. You is a no rep. Because most of the top athletes practice doing it

in a way that would not satisfy that standard. Which is, I think, dumb to begin with because when you do them properly, they're the most efficient. Is that what you think? That's what I know. Do they have a video for the V-ups? Not that I've seen.

I haven't seen a video for that. I thought it was pretty – this is what I think about the V-ups. I think that the written rules are pretty good for the V-up. And I think that as someone who has good motor control, good understanding of your body, you know when you're doing a V-up well and when you're not. And when you're doing them well, you can get into a rhythm and it feels good and natural. But sometimes it's hard to get into that rhythm. And I do V-ups and workouts sometimes and I'm like, I want to be a perfect rep, but I'm getting the stimulus. But in this case, they're asking for the perfect rep in the middle of a capacity workout.

for the perfect rep in the middle of a capacity workout. And I think it's highly likely that a lot of people are doing things that, like I said, would not be considered perfect reps if this was a live competition. She's flexible. Not everyone's going to be able to keep their legs straight like that. Well, they did allow it. They gave actually a caveat for that. They said if you have to bend your legs,

you just have to make sure that your toes stay above your head when you make contact but i mean there's also not a requirement to keep your arms straight which is odd as well i i want to i want to see someone um sorry i know i derailed us going to the fourth workout but it's okay i want to see someone do that we'll talk about that tomorrow hillary maybe you could film some weird um when we do it tomorrow, you can film some weird variations on it that would be legit, but that look weird. Have we seen, I mean, do you remember that thing when it was the burpees for time,

Kristen Clever came up with that kind of, when she stood up, she would step with one leg forward in the burpee. She kind of like invented that. I'm sure other people had done it, but it was just natural for her. I wonder if we're going to see some weird variations of the VF.

I would be curious what you think. If you go to Lauren Khalil's Instagram story, she has a unique way of doing ring muscle-ups that technically satisfies the standard. I would love to know what you think about that. Taylor, have you seen this? I have not seen this, no. It's a count it. It's count it. That's what it is.

Yeah, I would just like to know. Maybe Taylor thinks about it. She's doing the muscle-up? Yeah, so she shows right before this. Watch this one. This is a good muscle-up, just a low dip, a low catch. She gets out of this somehow. Wow.

I mean, I can't believe that. But wait till you see the next one. Because she says, so I can do them. But this is how I do them when it comes down to it in the workout. I can't jump down from that high up. I can do the muscle-up. I can do them, but this is how I, uh, I do them when it comes down to it in the workout. I can't jump down from that high up. I could do the muscles. Um, well, yeah, what's wrong with that?

It satisfies the standards. Look at her. She, she explains, start with straight arms and into a huge false grip with my ponytail. Holy moly. Dude, that requires some crazy agility. She explains, start with straight arms, get into a huge false grip, whip my ponytail, press it out. Holy moly. Dude, that requires some crazy agility and shit. This is legitimately one where I like to go through the movement standards piece by piece to be sure. Wow. Have you guys done that already?

You've done it piece by piece? I think she meets the standards. It's just I haven't really seen it before. It's obviously not efficient if you're doing a lot of competition, but it's definitely a workaround yeah unless she's strong unless it's in there like it is for the bar muscle up which i think it is that at no point can the toes rise above the level of the bottom of the rings that is in there yeah there you go it is in there and then she kills the handstand walk too she's really good at hands oh she's gotten really good i didn't mean to crush your screen.

See ya. Hey, so, so what happened? You guys don't think that's good because, uh, her, her,

you know, there are, this was what happened with the burpee standard last year. I literally crawled over the bar and it was meeting the standard, but it wasn't the intent of the, of the standard. So I don't, I don't care that she doesn't like that.

I think she goes from a dead hang to getting over the rings. It just takes her fucking long as shit to do it. I think that if Hiller attempts to make some videos of doing V-ups that meet all the standards but look ridiculous, I guess they will have some fun with that too, but they'll be legitimate.

No part of the foot may rise above the bottom of the rings during the kip. I didn't see her foot. Was it close? It's close. Do we still have access to that? Can we pull it back up? Anyway. Lauren's like, come on.

Let's look at some good performances from this first one. Yeah, Mel O'Brien, let's talk about that. Victor Hoffer, let's talk about that. Do we have access to their videos? Oh, yeah. Her team definitely went above. Yeah. Let's try Lauren.

Hey, but you know what's crazy about that is that's just harder what she did it's not like she has i mean look at her legs are straight when they go above the rings she i gotta give that to her that's crazy it is cool that we i don't know way to look through it a couple different times um the arms are straight we know that has to happen does she have to change directions no not on the first rep can i i want to before we look at some good i got some questions about some people do you care if we just if i just pick some people here ryan okay oh how did sarah how about sarah sigman's daughter how did she do do you know how she did or are you no i have no idea there's just some people i'm curious how she did i'm curious how colton mertens did keelan henry um just just some people have had on the show i'm

just curious how they're doing sarah was in the top 100 she's in the top 100 right now she's in the top 30 on that workout that is pretty good everything's fine everything seems okay like what it's thumbs up headed towards semi-finals I mean, if she's in the top 100 worldwide, she'll definitely be within the top 60 in Europe, which is fine. I think that the better tests for her are still coming up. I mean, look, 29th on this workout, 287th on the next workout. And that workout, like JR said, there's just, I mean, I watched people do it here that are significantly fitter,

significantly fitter than the people they were doing it against and had very similar scores because the less fit person was very proficient with the jump rope and the fitter person was not. Well, what is your definition of fitness? Because if we're… What I'm talking about is that if you give me 100 workouts, person A would beat person B 100 times. And they still beat them on this workout, but only by five reps. But they're so much worse than that one workout. That one movement. They've never done it before.

A month from now, he would probably smash her on that workout. But I also think that the dumbbell is advantageous to the women in that one. For sure, as are all the other loads. What I'm saying is you're going to see as we look through some of these that there are a lot of games athletes with suspiciously bad scores on that workout. And I don't think it has much to do with their fitness. It's just what JR said earlier, their proficiency with that movement. And so what Taylor just said. Or just not having access to the right tool.

Or just not having access to the rope they need. Or just not having access to the right tool Or just not having access to the rope they need Yeah, and I know that there are groups of athletes That went to Walmart to buy beaded jump ropes To do this workout And it's just like, is that what we're trying to do here? What do you mean by that, Brian? Is that what we're trying to do?

I mean, this is like What I say about the bikes If you want to have a bike Included in an online competition Give people fair notice If you want to make a bike included in an online competition, give people fair notice. If you want to make people clip into the pegs for the crit, give them a month notice. Then you actually get a reflection of what people can do instead of what people are able to do with the limited equipment and time to prepare for it. But, dude, they were at the games.

They were at the games. They did give them preparation for that. They did not give them preparation for the crossover double under and they chose to air it on cbs and so everyone looks like an idiot that i agree with you but what i'm saying is is once you see it in the games you have to everyone who's who's everyone should go buy a beat a jump rope who's serious every affiliate should go buy a fucking you fucking everyday class going nerd hey every affiliate i think every affiliate should go ahead no that's it i hey every affiliate i think every affiliate should go ahead no that's it i mean that's i think every affiliate should hey if you see hand release push-ups in the

games you better be doing them in your affiliate if you see a double or crossovers in the games you better start doing them in your affiliate anything you see in the games you should consider start doing in your affiliate to some degree and why do i think that because i think that's that's that's at the forefront of where of where the the whole community is going and i think it's always like that that's why i don't like new stuff being introduced in the open i think it's fucking stupid i i don't even think it should be introduced in the quarterfinals to be honest to the games and then trickle down they put out an equipment a beaded jump rope does not cost very much right

they put out an equipment list two months ago they could have just put jump rope speed rope and beat it oh it wasn't in there they made it not a beaded jump rope and you don't need a beaded jump rope but it's advantageous to have one for this movement yeah i think you do need one it's the right tool they said jump ropes so are we just supposed to assume that that's cryptic i did assume that i just thought we'd be doing regular. So I guess that's kind of shame on me. But if they say you need kettlebells and they say you need dumbbells and these are the weights you need, they don't say you just need dumbbells. Good luck figuring out the weights that you need. So if jump ropes, plural, my head kind of goes, Hmm, that's interesting.

So maybe you need to have different kinds of ropes for different skills. So I understand where they're coming from, but they gave the athletes what? Not even maybe 24 hours notice at the games for the crossover double unders. That's the amount of time they gave people for quarterfinals. It's the same. And back to your question about Sarah Sigma's outer, she's just an example. The fact that she did 29th in the world on the first workout is substantially more significant to me in evaluating where she's at than the fact that she was 287th in the second workout, because that doesn't tell me anything except that she's not,

she's probably not practiced those. And that could be a, we could say, well, she should be practicing those for the reason that you said, but I'm not weighing my evaluation of athletes too heavily based on that workout. Uh, no, if, if there's bikes in the games, you don't buy bikes for your affiliates because there's not going to be bikes in the open. Uh, if they're swimming in the games, no, you don't buy a swimming pool for your affiliate. Cause there's not going to be swimming in the open. Uh, come on, man. So Brian is sleepy. Joe would say, come on, man, stop installing that swimming pool, man. You know, Jr is come on, man. So, Brian. As Sleepy Joe would say, come on, man. JR, stop installing that swimming pool, man. Ryan, if you're not.

You know JR is. Come on, man. If you're not reading into athletes' performances on workout two, do you think it's an invalid test? If you're not what? He said, I'm not reading too much into athletes' scores on workout two. That seems counterproductive to it being included in any way in a competition where the points matter. If I'm like, okay, they did shitty on that workout,

but that's not reflective of their fitness or reflective of how they're going to perform at the games or et cetera, or it causes you as an analyst to say, I don't really care about that. Yeah, it's the same way that I'm not, that I was like, if I look at the open, I'm not that concerned with the middle week at all i mean you you maybe you know i i can look at weeks one and three and i feel like i can have a much better picture for an athlete's uh trajectory for the season than we're looking at either part of workout too there was a guy in my affiliate that tied patrick belner walking his shuttle runs damn right oh shit is that fucking insane i mean go there but that's fucking

to get to taylor's taylor's point i mean sometimes we look at competitions and we say okay if we had to pick one test which one would we take to be the best representation of the field of athletes if you could only pick one we've often done that with quarter with a last chance qualifier and you could do it with quarterfinals i think pretty easily as well but at the same token this year i think that we can look at the open and we can look it with quarterfinals, I think pretty easily as well. But at the same token this year, I think that we can look at the open and we can look at the quarterfinals and say, yeah, uh, uh, Taylor, basically to your question. Yes. I don't, I don't really consider that workout very valid in terms of assessing the athletes fitness.

I think there are other things. What does this help and know when he looks at the open, can, can you see, Hey, this was the test that the majority of the quarterfinalists did best at? It was the second test. Second test. So the one that I think has the least value in terms of depicting overall fitness had the biggest impact on the leaderboard. Is that correct? Yeah, I think Brian Spin actually did the report on it it's it's it's basically looking down the leaderboard and saying which of these

tests had the closest um comparable to the final result and 2a i believe came out with the closest comparable wait a minute it's really interesting too If you look back at like the first two years of quarterfinals and you could look for the outlier score, like what was the score that kept most people out or what was the score that allowed some people that maybe wouldn't have made it other years get in. And usually that happens to be the one rep max test. It's the four rep max front squat that can really showcase someone who's just very strong and can help make up for other skill-based tests. And then last year, the other

total for a lot of guys that I know, they got into semifinals just because they were able to bench a lot and overhead squat a lot, but it was, it, it hid their other scores. And this year it looks like just, just from what some of these scores are coming in for test two, it looks like now it's going to be flipped to the you can't get any more skill base than that, than the crossover single, in my opinion. Well, it's also what came up in the games last year. I mean, there was people talking about how Tia wasn't doing very well after day one or day two or whenever it was, but it was because she couldn't do single unders and people were just like oh what what happened to tia or how great is mal or

or some of the other athletes and it was just sort of like well no she just tripped three times and was out of it by the time they actually end up being single unders they were designated as unbroken well that's just what i mean she couldn't do whatever the amount was in the time limit that she had so it came up very similar conversation to say is this a problem with this athlete or is this a problem with the test or both uh olsen dudes 49.99 cheers to the show this is awesome with many different opinions from some good dudes just sitting here with popcorn have an awesome weekend gents what kind of popcorn savon you asked me about keelan henry he is 220th in the world he also was had an issue with well comparatively had an issue with the second event or test it was

649th for him but just to go back to that previous or the first conversation we had of athletes that all don't have to actually do that well in africa he's second so he's second but he's 220th in the world so you can look at that as a first is it jason smith again no it's a number yeah is it one zero number yeah uh okay uh sarah sigma how's colton merton's doing and i and and Yeah. Is it? Juan Zernimer, yeah. Okay. Sarah Sigmundson. How's Colton Mertens doing? And Justin Medeiros doing? How are they doing?

Justin Medeiros? Yeah. He's winning. He is winning. Good. Yeah. Colton's at the top. Is he at the top or something like that? He's at the top.

Colton's doing fine. Did anybody work on their crossover single unders and just decide that they no longer wanted to be well-rounded quote unquote, or just like, eh, I'm over this whole well-rounded thing. If this is what it's going to mean. I'm curious. I don't understand. I don't understand the question. We'll come back to Justin. What's what Justin should not be at the top. What is going on? This is, this is, that's what justin should not be at the top what is going on this is against this uh that's what ellie said um this is uh this is not this is not the way we've painted him in the

last year he hasn't even been last year in quarterfinals. I mean, it's really not that surprising that he's doing well. A few people messaged me, and they're like, oh, my God, Justin and Ellie Turner both had the top score in workout number two. And so, like we've been talking about, assuming that you can do these things proficiently now it just comes to how fast you can move with the dumbbell and we saw last year at the crossfit games in the hat hat trick event what was it hat was it hat whatever

it was with the dumbbell snatch on the wall ball hat trick that um ellie turner's fast twitch muscle fibers are better than the best in the world. It is insane. And Justin's not bad himself. So I'm not surprised that they did well on this workout if they were good at the jump rope. Brian, didn't Ellie do some smash something at Rogue also? There was a dumbbell. Was it the handstand pushups and dumbbell?

And then also at semifinals last year. Wasn't there another one? Yeah. Anytime we see those dumbbell squats basically any squatting right she's she's crushing also right this is more i think the lunging and the you know but that 50 pound dumbbell is not it is not heavy for her so this is just like and for a lot of the top women this is just like how fast can you move? And we know that lightweight, high repetition, she moves faster than most. And where is she, Caleb? Can we see the women's leaderboard, Ellie Turner, see where she's at? 56.

Overall? Yeah. Yeah, so she obviously did great on the second workout winning it, but didn't do as well on the first workout. And so this is the inverse of this group of athletes we've been talking about. And it makes sense for her because she has some things that she's amazing at world class best in the world and then she has some things that she's still working on and the high skill gymnastic stuff is is that stuff and she'll be going to australia she is not she does

she does not get an exemption to stay? Correct. Do you like that name right above her, though? Speranza? Yes. Isn't that great? Speranza Banchioli? Speranza Banchioli. That's a nice name. Speranza Banchioli.

Do you know her? No. But pretty good start to quarterfinals. Yeah, absolutely. What are you getting at here, buddy? She's got a cool name and she's done well on these two tests. Good job. But no, just the way Hillary is.

Okay. Let's go up to the best woman in the world. Is that who did we want to, I think we should pay her a little. We should eyeball her a little bit miss malo brian is not on the leaderboard malo brian is that oh i'm sorry you i thought you're talking about tia clark to me oh tia is not on the leaderboard she's not registered oh so she destroyed the the other region huh the signups Wasn't she supposed to sign up to help them out? She was. Mal O'Brien, someone today in the chat,

I will not reveal their name, but I am in a chat with the most sophisticated and most knowledgeable nerds in the game space, and someone said, I wish I could take my life savings embedded on Mal to win the games this year. Does anyone disagree with that? Sophisticated is an interesting word choice for that group right what it is sophisticated

well dude do you not know how to gamble the odds in there are going to be not so great you're going to win like 10 bucks okay so she so she's going to win she's going to win. She's going to win. No, no, no, no, no. We've been saying it over and over. She is, she's,

she's probably the favorite to win the games. Yes. But she is definitely the favorite to win the open and to win quarter finals and the winter semifinals. Like if she doesn't, I would say I would be 10 times more surprised if she didn't go first, first, first on those than if she did.

But I mean, do you think Mal O'Brien can be 1% better this year than last year? I hate that thing, 1% better. Yeah, because I'm- Okay, 2%. Okay, 2%. I'm sure she's more than 1% stronger. Yeah.

Seriously? Are you serious, Jer? Yeah, for sure. She's absolutely strong. I don't think she's beatable if she's getting better. I think she'll be one spot better without the other person there, sure. Let me ask you this in a serious question, Brian. Look at these ladies below her.

Brooke Wells, Emily Rolfe. Brooke Wells has a chance to podium this year and probably is a favorite for a top six finish. Emily Rolfe's top 20 candidate.ily rolf's top 20 candidate alexis raptus is top 10 candidate who else but but these other girls maybe alexis raptus it's unfair but brooke wells and emily rolf are not getting better at the pace that mal o'brien's getting better wouldn't you say that's fair and if she's already better than them that means she's pulling away you know they're significantly older than her i mean obviously exceptional at the young age brooke wells i'm not so sure about brooke wells because

i don't know how like i don't know how i really don't know how big of a setback that elbow thing was with her but she seems to be as good as she's ever been right now uh emily rolf we know can be top 20 at the games but she's in her 30s I think it's very unlikely that she's going to make a dramatic improvement right now. Obviously, Alexis is young. Danielle Brandon is still getting better. Laura Horvath, I think, is still getting better. Gavin McGowan is still getting better. Emma Lawson is still getting better.

Those are 9, 11, 12, and 13 right now. Those are the women that I'm looking at. I think Alexis Raptus and emma lawson definitely but the rest mal's just pulling away just like she pulled around the corner they can't even see her anymore ariel lowen's a beast i'm telling you right now if that specific handstand push-up standard does not show up at the crossfit games. Laura Horvath has just as good a chance to win the CrossFit games. I would like that. If it does, then I will also double down on Mal

to win. And tell me once again what that standard is. That's a deficit handstand push-up. Parallel handstand push-up. Specifically with the parallettes. If that's not there, make room. Laura Horvath's the... I mean, look, last year's isn't going to do her any favors either.

The strict deficit wall facing. I hope Brooke wins. That'd be sick. Who, Brooke Wells? Brooke Wells podiums this year. She's in contention for maybe she might just immediately take the crown as the fittest American woman. Brooke Wells is going to be the Ben Smith, the Matt Fraser,

Matt O'Brien run. She's going to podium once and pass Carrie? Yeah, I think you could put her name in the conversation. But yeah, I mean, put Carrie podium once. Brooke's got, I think her other finishes are just as good, and she's got a longer active streak

qualifying. And Carrie podiumed on a year that you don't count. But she did beat Brooke. It would do wonders for the sport if Brooke Wells won. I'll tell you that. People would fucking love that shit. What do you mean?

She's fucking hot, and she's fucking hot, and she's fucking hot. And she would be great to parade around as the fucking champ. Do you have a fourth point, or is that it? Same as the first three. Just a little more emphatic yeah great smile good attitude good demeanor you know anything that you've uh put under hot just throw sponsorships sponsorships yeah looks good with the snicker bar in her left hand and her right hand if there were a gambling app i'd put it on brooke wells just because anyone other than mal or laura at this point has good odds

i'm gonna bet ten dollars to win a thousand audrey you shallow son of a bitch her body is nice her body is nice her body is nicer than a snicker bar okay uh can we um look at workout number dos? You okay with that, everyone? Workout two, yeah. Who invited Taylor? When the fuck did Taylor get here? If you want me out, dude, I'll fucking go.

Easy, easy, buddy. Come on, man. Come on, man. I'll stick around at least for the next couple minutes to talk about one of his athletes. Hey, here's what I think. I think that Taylor was on suicide watch and jr was in charge and jr came on the show so he sent taylor a link so he can watch uh 12 minute air not funny savon a 12 minute amrap uh eight dumbbell snatches one arm i crushed those uh eight overhead walking lunge steps, eight dumbbell snatches, eight overhead walking

lunge steps, 40 crossovers. This is your workout, Savant. This is my workout. This is your fucking workout. You could crush this. Have you done this workout yet? No, but I wonder if I can do crossovers. I can jump rope pretty good. He can't do this workout. He can't do a dumbbell snatch.

Savant, they were in the game, Savant. You should have been practicing. Hey, do you have to alternate the arms? You can do a dumbbell snatch. They were in the game, you should have been practicing. Do you have to alternate the arms? You can do all. Arm one and arm two. You have to do all 16 reps on one arm and then all 16 reps on the other. This is a discriminatory

workout. What if you only have one arm? That's a different division. Brian, why do you think they didn't just designate eight dumbbell snatches, right arm, eight overhead walking lunge, right arm, eight left, eight left? Great question. So the reason why I think they did not do that is because if you get to the end of this workout, and it seems to me, at least every person that I did this with got to the end of the workout and with less than a minute to go was picking up the dumbbell sometimes less than 30 seconds to go and in that case you can you can choose to pick it up with your favorable arm and so it accommodates the left-handed people basically if they end up in that situation that they're not forced to use their weak arm when when you know 70 or whatever

the right hand is i get to use their dominant wouldn't it is that hey that's it that they can switch their dot their first arm each round or that once they pick their first arm no every time you come back from the crossovers you can choose which arm to start with they specifically designated that so i could go right left crossovers left right crossovers right left crossovers and then left to the finish or not if i'm in the fourth i also have a question in some of the workout, like in some of the workout descriptions, like on the first and last workout, they have, okay, nine front squats, weight one in parentheses lightest, and then weight two at the 15 and weight three in parentheses heaviest. they have the weights listed at the bottom and it just seems like that's about 20 characters too many when they could just put a comma and put the weights right next to the nine front squats i know that's kind of semantics but no it's annoying as all hell i agree oh fucking it pissed me off so much looking at the document add more confusion to something that's already yeah anyways

i mean no one else. Hey, I want to give that. That's mad props to CrossFit for coming up with that shit. That's what the fucking DEI council should fucking be worried about. That fucking right there is fucking brilliant to let people choose which arm. So the left-handed people aren't punished for being left-handed. That's a,

that's a fucking brilliant move. I think that's, but definitely punish you. If you can't get your hands on a beat-up jump rope you're a fucking loser listen are you serious you think it's a big deal to run to the fucking to am a m a z o dude some people live dot com lives and listen listen running water listen listen he's not he's not wrong listen there's a there's a guy there's a local guy who's saying before you talk whose side are you on mine or taylor's mine uh taylor's fuck me he's made he's made regionals like five times he's made he made semifinals last year he posted to his story if anyone that lives in greenville county and greenville is not a small city like it's a it's a decent sized city said none of the walmart's academy sports or play it

sports have any beaded rope so if you're if you're out trying to find one there's nothing within an hour radius so he did really poorly he's, he's below 200th right now. He probably, and he's going to be really tough for him to qualify because he couldn't find a rope. That wasn't just a speaker. I call bullshit on that. That story's not real. It is real.

He got slapped on that workout too. Well, wow. It's just easier for you to read this way. Hey, let me push back on that. I don't want to quit on this yet. But don't you – there's equipment you should have to have.

What equipment wouldn't you push back? What if I said, hey, I couldn't find a fucking 70-pound dumbbell? Well, we know that you need a 70-pound dumbbell because they told you to get a 70-pound dumbbell. Right, okay. Savan, you have to consider the population that's taking the test. So if this happened at semifinals or at the games and you can't figure it out, A, the competition could provide that number of athletes with the ropes. So everyone has the same equipment. B, if you can't do it, the worst you can do is 30th or 60th. And that will obviously have an effect on your

overall rank. And we know that in some cases last year, that specifically kept people out of making it to the games. In this competition, just like in the open, if you create something like this, where you give the entire popular 10,000, you know, 15,000, however many signed up for it, the opportunity to do a workout like this, and you can't, and you, you can't get the equipment that some people have access to, or you don't pick up the skill quickly enough for whatever reason. You just basically are eliminated from the season. You can't bounce back from it. If you get 600th on a workout,

if you're in a competitive. So you, so you agree with them too. You think that, um, that if you're not going to put the, I think they should have said, I think they should have said a week beforehand beforehand they should have just released that video from

boss doing this work okay jump rope that jump rope yes with the with the rep count and with the rope i said yes and said get ready for quarters now go rob your local elementary school yeah just to make a point about that like yeah go ahead after the games after the games when they mandated you do a certain number of pistols on one leg without letting the other leg touch and then you do the other ones it's always been alternating this alternating that alternating dumbbell snatches alternating dumbbell hang cleaning jerks alternating pistols on each leg and after they did that, I remember coming on and saying, listen, this could probably be a thing that trickles down. Most people

practice always alternating. What if they said you have to do step back lunges, but you have to do 10 with the right leg, then 10 with the left. What if they did dumbbell snatches and said you couldn't change arms? That's exactly what we have here. And I am frustrated because that's such a cool wrinkle that really, really taxed your grip in a different way, going into the lunge, making the lunge harder and not being able to say, okay, cool. I'm going to alternate arms and I'm going to rest on the rep seven, whichever arm I wasn't using. I'm going to pick it up with that arm and start my lunge.

There was less strategy involved. You weren't given the choice. And that's a really cool wrinkle and a really cool trickle down, but people aren't going to appreciate it because all they're going to be talking about is the crossovers. Just like at the games, legless pegboards, pirouettes, and press the handstand was an amazing show. No one will ever remember it for that because all they'll be talking about is the double under crossover. And that's a shame because programming wise, there's some really, really cool stuff here. And in both cases, I'm not, and I may tell you, you may disagree with this. I will contest that the fitness of the athletes was not well represented because the field was unprepared for that movement. And if that's what you want, then that's what you get.

But if you want to see who actually has fitness, then give them something that they can display their fitness with. You're talking about the crossover double under workout at the games. Yeah. Yeah, I'd agree. And in a very similar way with the crossover single under the quarters i want to along that line i think you guys uh you guys have uh convinced me i want to show you something this guy is an amazing jump roper but whenever i watch him jump rope i i always i never

see him jumping rope like he's got crossovers and everything but i never see any of it because i never i'm not actually watching the jump rope you're watching his dick bang up and down that guy's jesus christ that's disgusting dude what are you talking about be cool man no be cool what are you a misogynist what are you a misogynist that was an advertisement for a pair of shorts. Did you go buy the Lacasco shorts? The shorts do not look very supportive. That's going to hit me in the face through the fucking phone screen, dude. Hey, for those of you who've never seen my live call-in show,

that was about 10 minutes of my live call-in show this morning. You should check. You like that, Sousa? That's good shit. He's doing crossovers with the heavy rope. By the way, that rope came in the gains box last month. So if you need to subscribe to a game, this is single.

That's disgusting. What's the deal with the new Daniel Brandon grip? Just hug her as hard as you can. What do you mean? Is there a new dumbbell? Starwind $21. Thank you. Is there a new dumbbell grip A Starwind $21. $2. Thank you. Is there a new dumbbell grip?

Does anyone know what he's talking about? As it's back. So that was a standard last year also with the double dumbbell overhead walking lunge. There was actually a picture, same picture with a tattooed arm of someone palming the head of the dumbbell versus holding it by the handle and letting the head of the dumbbell kind of rest against the outside of the palm. So that was there last year for quarterfinals, too. Gary Roberts, thank you. Ten dollars. Much appreciated, brother.

Looking forward to having you on the show again. Is that the real Gary Roberts? Yeah, the real Gary Roberts. Love you, Gary. Love you, Gary. Yeah. Best ten minutes of my of my day i know that was incredible right hey brian 10 tests of fitness it hits three of them the crossover yeah i don't i don't think there's a problem having i just think give give the quarterfinals a week's notice then you get a much better representation of who's actually got capacity yeah i agree you guys win i agree especially listen if you're gonna if if they wouldn't have put out a list i would be like hey

you got to have it it's your fault but um uh once you put out a, you got to have the shit. Anita Handjob. Oh, that's an Arabic name. Handjob. Sandwich? Anita Handjob. Brian is the type of guy to feed pigeons with his sandwich. With his sandwich, JR kicks. JR doesn't kick. Are you kidding me?

JR wouldn't fucking harm an animal. You don't have JR figured out at all. JR, you don't hurt animals, do you? He kicks them the sandwich, and then Brian feeds feeds it to them that's how i read it at least was that my first jeez was that my first polarizing like take that i just had that i thought that i thought that the movements were overshadowed by another movement wow uh jr uh the really sad part is jr's invested a lot of money in uh quality podcasting equipment, yet he still is sent to the bathroom to do a podcast.

Where are you? Everyone wants to know where. Can you turn that around? What is this? All right. Hey, a hippo. It's a rhino, dude. No way, man.

I have to close this window with this guy jumping on it. It's distracting. Oh, there's a rhino. Is it the jump ripper right outside your window my fourth favorite animal uh okay let's go uh so so workout number two um let's go to the men um any standouts uh that anyone wants to talk about helping anyone anyone standing out here whether they did exceptionally well and we still haven't looked at colton mertens either exceptionally wellceptionally well or exceptionally poor. Who stands out to you? That's a good question. I have a woman that I might ask Taylor about. Okay, let's do it.

Who stands out? Michelle Baznett. She's training at SMTP. Taylor? What stands out to you about that? Her performance in the second test. What did we just hear Brian talk about for 15 minutes? I know. Don't make,

don't make people feel bad for fucking engaging you with you, Taylor. The guys don't. I just think she's practiced a lot of crossover double owners and crossover singles. And just so happens that she's not good at them. So unfortunately for her, she took a hit in the workout.

What did she get? I can't remember. happens that she's not good at them so unfortunately for her she took a hit in the workout what did she get uh i i can't remember i think 357 reps i can't remember taylor you're in a doctor's office i mean it's like a it's like a pt room at our gym okay 1100 so taylor uh taylor doesn't like nerds. She's Louise. She got 98 on the first workout, though. So, yeah. She'll do better on the third one. I think her third workout will be top 20 in the world. Hey, JR or Hiller, is this something she can – she's definitely going to qualify still, right?

This doesn't knock her out. She's going to Africa. Shit's going to be good there for her. Let's say she does go to the games. Is this something she can fix by say she does go to the games is this something she can fix by the time she goes to the games can you be proficient in three months at a crossovers be proficient in 24 hours on those she'll be she'll be proficient in another week on them easily she's she's 10th in africa she's gonna go to the semi-final she's fine seven i got an

athlete i'd like to ask the guys about please it. It's on the male side of the leaderboard. It's a guy from Bosnia and Herzegovina named Miso Popic. Bosnia? Bosnia and Herzegovina. New York City Blue Mountain State? 1,564th in the Open. Currently 21st worldwide in the quarterfinals. How does that happen? Are you pulling the athlete up?

Well, I guess we're going to see. I'm not being accusatory. I'm saying 1,564th in the Open, 21st worldwide after these two workouts. Is it because of these specific tests? Is he going to just take a massive hit on the next ones? Is there video? Is there video? No, not at this point.

It's hard to find them. Unless they're on YouTube. Have you ever heard this guy, Brian? No, I looked through everyone in the top 50 men and women. And this guy is like his, this, the jump that he made is like three times more significant than the next closest person from open to current standing. I hear steroids are legal in Bosnia.

Bosnia hurts. Oh, what do you think, Brian? What's your thought? I went back and looked at his open performances and he had gotten a, a very good score on the first workout. So, I mean, I think the guy's probably just really good at gymnastics. His thruster was only 243 so i guess he's still strong enough to move the barbell in that workout and have i mean i mean the score was 100th best in the world and then the fact that he was eighth place on that one workout you know obviously he's good at the jump ropes and has a great capacity i do think

that it's likely that he'll take a substantial hit and possibly he's 21st worldwide, I have to imagine he's in the top five at worst in Europe. That cable looks huge. Huge. I still think there's a good chance that even though this guy's 21st worldwide right now, that he misses the quarterfinals or the semifinals in Europe.

How's that? Because of how badly he's going to do on test number three and uh four what's in those videos or what's in those um what movements are in workouts three and four that you're you think he should be concerned just the heavy clean and jerk and then uh rowing i think that there's just a i think that you know as good as he did on these two tests i think he might do as bad on the next two tests. And the only reason I really wanted to pull him out here is to say that this is 40% of the test and that there's going to be a lot of athletes that did great on this 40%. They won't do as well in the next 60% when it gets heavy and favors a little bit different style athlete. And the other way around that there is still a chance for someone like a Vino to have three great workouts and sneak into his semifinals you didn't ask me about my other athlete who got 12 in the world

on that second workout and who's that emily white we're keeping her on the dl until semifinals oh can we can we pull up how did she do in the first workout taylor she managed it to her weaknesses and strengths, well, in my opinion, especially in her region. Emily White, 568 and 12th for a total placing of 580 in the world. So she's still looking good for semifinals. She'll definitely qualify for West. Has she been to semifinals before? She was 13th the past two years.

Oh, nice. Yeah, what is this bullshit? 1,000 viewers, 128 likes. Dude, just fucking subscribe and like already. Just do it. It's a nice thing to do. Or give money. Yeah, unsubscribe and don't like and give money.

As Tupac says, fuck the fame. want is the fuck the fame all i want is the money um shall we uh any anyone oh can we we didn't look at colton mertens no one wants to say anything about justin madaris you guys are just like we we we say he's not a he's not a winner now he's at the top and we're just like uh-huh he's doing champ shit that's it well winner. Now he's at the top and we're just like, uh-huh. He's doing champ shit. That's it. Well, like I mean, he, I think that we talked about him during the open because he had a

pedestrian open top 100 finish, but that's pedestrian for someone who's a two-time CrossFit games champion, but he's done well in the quarterfinals. Like, and it's, it's no surprise to me that he'll elevate his game for this. And,

you know, he's exceptionally well balanced what we've seen over the last two years is that there's he is better than everyone at not being really terrible at something and so this uh quarterfinals test is going to expose some most athletes at some point he's likely not going to be exposed at any any point and that means he's going to rise right up towards the top and I saw Colton there any thoughts on Colton's performances hey

Sousa oh Sousa's not at his chair he's gone I sent Colton a text today with Sousa on it hoping to see if we can get him on the show what do you think about these 30th and 107

great should be great on the first one, and he was. I might have thought he'd even do a little better on it, but obviously nothing wrong with 30th. Second workout, I mean, I think that for someone like him, it's just like, okay. He wasn't amazing at that workout, but he certainly didn't take any hit from it. And so just check the box and move on. I think that he'll do pretty well over four of these five tests. I'm curious to see how he

does on the rowing and GHD. What about, what about in our thread, there was talk of a couple workouts. I think it was, I don't know if I'm allowed to say their names, but there were two athletes. I don't know if that was like confidential information, but there were two athletes that we heard that did three workouts already. I think a lot of athletes did three workouts already or more. I've already done four of them. Are you in the quarterfinals? No,

but I mean, if I can handle four tests over this period of time, I'm sure that Pat Vellner can too. Uh, so, so do you, has Pat done for, why would they do that?

I'm just picking out a random name. Because he posted last night reps of him doing the clean and jerks. It looks very easy. And we know he's already done one and two. So I think there are a lot of athletes that did them. Those guys in particular that were being talked about literally did the workouts like all within an hour of each other. They just did it. Reset the floor.

Did another one. Reset the floor. Did another one. Hiller, why would they do that? Why wouldn't they just did it reset the floor did another one reset the floor did another one what hillar why would they do that why wouldn't they just wait why don't you just do two two and one and just be the best you can be i mean there's the potential that they want to give themselves time to redo it if something went wrong but also there i also think in the chat that you're talking about it's just hard to fathom what it's like to be in that sort of condition where you can just do it like that and not really think twice about it so you're saying that even even me asking the question it's because basically i'm just bringing my my my limits to it it's like it's not

necessarily not necessarily it's just it's hard to fathom and i don't know i mean people like jr know people like hopper and taylor. Taylor himself has done stuff like that. And I've been in the position where it's only once you've deconditioned where you know what it's like to be in condition. And when you're in condition, you can do stuff like back-to-back workouts and put out near or maximal effort and recover and do it again. Taylor, would you have done two, two, one? Or would you have already started powering through these? Um, if I like last year I did it at JR's gym. So a lot of what my game plan was rode on like other people's availability. And when they were going, I think in an ideal world, why not do one Thursday night, one or two Friday, one or two

Saturday and one Sunday. So you have it spaced out as much as possible to get a best score. That's ideal for me. But last year I did three on Friday, one on Saturday, one on Sunday. It also depends if you want to get the best score. I mean, for the people that we're talking about, all that they have to do is place inside the qualifying in their region. Some of them I think that – some of them I know place some importance on being towards the top of that

because they want a good seeding when they get to semifinals. We don't actually know the format for semifinals yet. We were assuming that they'll seed based on their quarterfinals finish. But, you know, as we've seen throughout the stages of competition, there are athletes doing competitions in the Middle East. There's athletes traveling across the world. There's athletes doing all these things. They're doing workouts late at night. They're doing them in small, you know, without any real rest or planning like for the best in the world.

These stages of competitions are a formality. They don't, and there's no money on the line in the quarterfinals. So unless you're really trying to get a great seating for semifinal, there's not really an incentive for the best athletes in the world to do a hard workout, go get three hours of body work, take a two hour nap, come back in the evening, hit it again, spend night at the chiropractor, get eight to get 10 to 12 hours of sleep. You don't need to do that for this test.

I got to go ahead, Taylor. So you got, I got to go. Okay. Bye. Uh, how been, what do you, what,pin, can you bring any light to this one? Well, there's also athletes that have just signed up for this so that they could be in the worldwide ranking. There's athletes that are obviously in teams that they're not taking it that seriously,

so they may only do the workout once. When he says that, Halpin, just refresh people's mind on, if you win the quarterfinals, how many worldwide ranking points do you get? 2,000. And then if you finish second through what, do you get 20 points less than that? Wow. Okay. Well, it's 1980 for that second through whatever the number is, but it's the top. So it doesn't matter.

Yeah. So if you win, you get 2000, pretty much everyone else who's relevant in your mind, seven to L the athletes you've heard over the ones that are trying to be athletes you've heard of, they're all going to get the same points anyway, because it's just, it's not because it's based on percentile. Yeah. So then it makes the athletes that are on the cut line, the ones that have to do the workout one twice, the ones that got 11 minutes the first time and then they got eight or nine minutes the second time they're the ones that are sitting there not focused on

three four and five yet they're trying to do everything they can in one and two before it's due uh specific and what about this comment right here um helping uh andrea uh solver just got massively adjusted in one of the workouts 14 14th overall now. Is the implication there that people are seeing her video? Well, she massively adjusted up in a positive direction. So this is – I mean, that's what I'm assuming at least, Clive. But so that's – I would be curious about how that happens, how your score improves. But what this does tell us is something that's – yeah, thanks, Mike. Something that's important for people to recognize is this is not a finalized leaderboard. CrossFit certainly has.

Maybe they've begun reviewing some videos, but they'll need a little bit of time to do that. So expect some changes. And like JR said, at some point, they're going to ask for specific videos from specific athletes. And you will see everything from minor to major penalties with always the looming possibility of an invalidation. Right. I don't see what they're talking about. I was wondering how closely you were listening. I'm listening to everything.

I don't see what they're talking about. She was 14th when I pulled it before, and she's 14th now. She was what before? Say that again. Sorry. She was 14th before. Oh, Sorry. She was 14th before. Okay. Okay.

14th again. Uh, actually she was 89th in Europe, like 15 minutes ago. Oh, oh, she's 14th in Europe now. Sorry.

It's just that the number was the same across both. You can filter by where they're at now. Oh, on the app. I'm saying it's just it's just like a coincidence that she was 14th in europe when i pulled it before now she's 14th worldwide uh we will there will be some crazy controversy don't worry people there's going to be some people who get it might not even be controversial there will be people who you desperately want to go to the crossfit

games who you desperately think we're going to go to the CrossFit Games, who somewhere between now and the CrossFit Games, because of something that has nothing to do with their fitness, will not be going. And that won't be injury. It'll be a score put in wrong, a computer invalidation. They thought it was a fucking one-arm handstand pushup, and it was a two-arm handstand pushup. There will be – don't worry. We will – they're juiced up. Who knows? But we will have some fun. There will be drama.

Even to that point, it could be like a hundred athletes that they all got adjusted in front of her that that then are changing as they review things here. Not a hundred. She only got 15th and 67th. Sorry. But there just could be athletes around her that got adjusted up or down that are then moving her score one way or the other. I'm making notes. Tomorrow we will spend some time looking at Paige Powers. I see what you got there. We'll also be looking at Roman Krennikoff. We'll make sure we look at Ricky. Can we look at Halpin's spreadsheets for the Breakdown by Region before we go?

Yeah, let's do it. A few more minutes left, guys. If you have anything crazy to say, get the comments now and uh send all your money so if you scroll all the way over to the right because these are by i pulled these multiple times as registration occurred but it's not that exciting for most besides me the nerd um i don't know if you can zoom in or not but tell us what this is right here uh this is this is a a tracking of the registrations as they occurred so yesterday while the first workouts were going on they didn't allow the leaderboard to be shown but i pulled it right before it got pulled down at right as the workouts were getting released and there were 6 000 men that were

registered for quarterfinals of a possible 16 000 and then uh 24 hours later just over 24 hours later only 8 000 of the 17 or you can see there 16 nine 46 actually registered for the quarterfinals. So only 50% of the guys eligible for the quarterfinals worldwide registered. Correct. Yeah. I don't feel bad about taking one of those spots now. And only, only three of the regions had over 50% of their region registered.

Um, uh, say that one more time that last bit only you can see it there on the right only three of those regions had over 50 percent of their possible registrants register and two of them are two of the smallest regions and uh and so south america and Europe were the lowest. Africa and Oceania are the lowest. Oh, as far as registration, yeah. Yeah. Hey, so I would like to know what the implications are of that according to Brian Friend.

Does that mean, hey, just go ahead and just like just let's just make the test. Let's not let in. Let's only let in 5% and see what happens. Well, this is what last year when I was working for the Morning Chalk Up, I did a study on this. Halpin might have helped me with it. I can't remember. Or maybe Watkins, someone like that.

But when I was looking to see where did the, because there was a similarly low amount of participation in the quarterfinals. And I wanted to see where those registrations were coming from. Like, were they coming from the top 2%, the next 2%, the next 2%, the next two or the bottom two, or the bottom two?

And it was actually pretty uniform distribution across all those things, except for the first one. There was obviously the most from the most competitive people. But the next four, it was pretty even distribution. I'd love to see that, too. So you're telling me the top 10% of the guys, 90% of them registered. The top 2%. Top 2%. But then once you break it away

from there, it's like half the guys who are top 10% in the world don't register. Half the guys who are top 20. Same with the very bottom 90, the ass guys. The top 10% make it. 98th and 99th percentile have a high

percentage of registrations. 96 and 97 don't. It's similar to 94 and 95. It's similar to 92 and 93. And it's similar to 90 and 91. So once you get past the top 2%, that's where it's like about half of each of the next 2% did it. That's what it was last year. And I think I would guess it's similar this year to what Hillary was saying is, well, I don't feel bad taking one of those spots is the people who are 89th, 88th, 87th, 86th, 85th, 84th percentile that might actually do well on these tests, might be better than some of the people that made the quarterfinals on this group of tests.

They might have registered if they had had the chance to sign up. But you have to draw the line somewhere. and I would agree with what you asked me and I would draw the line higher based for the, especially for the women. I would draw the line higher than the men, because what we've set, what we saw from the open this year, and a lot of it's thanks to the studies that Mike's doing is that there are just less women that have the, the, the prerequisite high-end gymnastics

and top-end strength numbers than men based on a percentage basis. And then we look at this test where you need those things to be relevant or to even really have fun doing the test. JR, where can we purchase Crash merchandise? I'm actually working on getting an online store up because a lot of people are asking about them. But these hoodies that I have on, that Hiller has on, I'm actually working on getting an online store up because a lot of people are asking about them. But like these hoodies that I have on, that Hiller has on, I'll ship one to you, and you can just Venmo me.

So just DM me, and I'll get you one. Okay. Tomorrow – go ahead, Albert. Just real quick. I'm sorry, the women because the women is even more drastic. Okay. I think we should bring – let's start with the women tomorrow. Okay. We'll keep beating that horse. That's a subject that deserves a little more attention anyway, the number of people who are registering where they're coming from. So tomorrow – and thank you. Thanks for getting that in, Brian. And Halpin, will you be here tomorrow? I should. 5 p.m. Standard time.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, guys. Caleb. Thank you, JR. Thank you,

Mr. Hiller. Thank you. Tomorrow after UFC, we will be here. Don't forget to watch the UFC tomorrow night. How could we forget? Thank you.

You know, I'm watching the live disc golf right here next to the show. You could watch the fight during the podcast. No, no, no, it'll be none. Five bucks for every quarterfinal workout.

Hiller does during the live stream tonight. Holy fuck. Everyone. Are you doing a live stream? Are you the quarterfinals workout tonight? Mr. Hiller? I had no intention of doing any of these workouts well now you can make 25 bucks though okay guys

brian will you be here tomorrow at 5 p.m pacific standard time that's after the fight yeah oh then then i should be free here okay hillary you're 90 percent in yeah you're 90 you're 90 yes sir a jr i don't dare ask you i don't want to pressure you thank you yeah you're welcome a wad zombie uh ten dollars uh i suspect if i'm a betting man that uh jr how will be here if that's the only reason why you come to the show you should come at least check uh and then some at some time i think um bill grundler will be here and at some time I think Scott Tetlow will be here and I suspect Daniel Brandon will be here

maybe not but these are in the next two days maybe not tomorrow but very soon maybe even Mr. Vellner okay buh-bye