The Sevan Podcast - Andrea Wilson | CrossFit Games Champion

Episode Date: September 3, 2024

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Hey, you have kids you're used to you probably have all parents are good talkers Bam we're live. Good morning everyone. Am I saying your name right Andrea? Yeah, Andrea Wilson Okay, cuz I know some people go by Andrea, but Andrea. Yep. It's Andrea Andrea Wilson. Hey, thanks for coming on Congratulations for making it to the CrossFit Games. You must be getting pumped. You look you look like you're ready to go right now to the CrossFit Games, you must be getting pumped. You look like you're ready to go right now. I am excited. I'm excited to go to a new location, a new venue, kind of have the stacking of CrossFit this year. So it's exciting. Hey, where are you? Where's home for you? Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Okay. Is that a good place? It's a Midwestern, I love it.

Yeah, I've been to the Dakotas a few times and every time I've absolutely loved it. Great states, both of them, North and South. Yeah. Are you guys friends? Do North and South Dakota friends or do they have a friendly rivalry or how are the states? I think the rivalry is probably more like

East and West River. Than the state, the two states. Yeah. Hey, I know you're on here because of your remarkable accomplishments as an athlete, but I want to tell you, when I dig through as a father, when I dig through your Instagram, what I'm most impressed by is your parenting and the fact that you're that you're working out and hanging out so much with your kids. How old are your kids? 11 and six. How do you think you do that? What do you think it is that makes them that they want to hang out with mom and do hard stuff?

I think it's just having them a part of my daily life and not trying to like separate what I do versus my time and their time. I mean, there very much is when I'm doing a workout, my six-year-old knows he's not allowed in the gym, but as they've gotten older, seeing it and being a part of it. And my oldest one came to the Games with me last year,

and he absolutely loved watching that. And I think that's given him motivation. But yeah, I think it's more just I try and make every activity that I do. I'm a single mom, so they're with me a lot of the time. So just making them a part of my day toto-day life and not making it my own time. Hey, Andrea, when does the six-year-old get to be, because I have some pretty strict rules about when I work out also. Yeah.

And I don't, I'm trying to remember when it changed, but there was a point when they just weren't allowed in there if I was working out. And like you said, your six year olds not allowed in there. But now I have a nine year old and two seven year olds and they can be in there when I'm working out. But there is still a really strict rule. Do not talk to me. Like unless there's a fire, do not like I don't like I don't care if you're hung like I just need some time. I don't care if you're hungry. The house better be on fire.

There better be a stranger in the house. Do you remember when you, that change for your 11 year old and why it changed? Oh, you froze. He has always been a rule follower and I can pretty much trust what I tell him that he will follow through with. My six year old, not at all the same. He is a little

tearer, so I imagine that I'll have to be more strict with him, but my role with him right now is kind of like when there's a class, absolutely not. Like class time, respect to gym, respect to coach, like you're not allowed back here. And then when it's open gym time or just me in the gym after that, then I try and incorporate them a little bit more into the time and the space. Okay. So for you, it's because there's other people there. For me, it was kind of like safety. Like I was always, I was just concerned I was going to drop something on them or set

something down on them, or he was going to go come running by and hit, you know, hit their shin on a barbell or something like that. But do you train? So you train exclusively at an affiliate? Yeah. And what's the name of that affiliate? Crossfit viable. Crossfit viable.

Yeah. Are you the owner? No. Are you, but are you a coach there? No. I would be a terrible coach. Seriously? Are you a coach there? No.

I would be a terrible coach. Seriously? I would be very strict and I think I would find it very frustrating with my expectations. Oh, interesting. Interesting. Okay. Well, hey, maybe there's a special class like for that. Andrea, come get slapped around by Andrea.

No bullshit with Andrea. That's right. And so you take the classes there with the classes? I do not anymore. So when I first started off I did just one-on-one with the owner. I was real nervous and had no idea what I was doing. And then he really wanted me to get into doing the classes. So after a little bit of time, I started doing classes. And then probably for the last two years or so,

and they are during the class, but I'm not following the class program. And they're in the class and open gym afterwards. And I'm doing different programming. Hey, what division are you competing in in San Antonio? Seated one. Seated, explain that to me, the different seated. Yeah, so they have three seated categories this year.

They've typically had two seated one and two. And the difference with that is they define it as hip function in a more general sense. But I think they've started adding further testing where it's not exclusively hip function in a more general sense but I think they they've started adding further testing where it's not exclusively hip function it's more a full body comparison but for the greater people that don't know the exact differences hip function is a good way of defining it like a lot of the seated two athletes can stand up and talk to you or like can lean forward and support themselves with their feet where I will just face plant.

And that's, and that's seat one. Seat one has no hip function. Correct. Okay. And then what's, and then what's three? Three is like you have- Three is I think our quad division. So having impairment near upper extremities as well.

Oh, OK. OK. So the first two are in relationship to hip function. And the third is you got some pieces missing up top. Not pieces missing, but impairment as far, like higher up spinal cord injuries where you have grip function. Hey, do you?

What's the force of control. On one hand, I could see where people like the divisions, because it keeps you with your people, but I could also see where like a really competitive person wouldn't like it because they just want to beat everyone's ass. So the unfortunate thing I've found, there are very few seated women competing. And so over the years I've actually a lot of palooza groups us all together and that's been one of my favorite competitions because there is a seated two athletes that I can chase after. I've often gotten to it being like, well, I'm not going to be able to catch her, but it's something to chase. Right.

So I understand from both ends because a lot of times the difference in function ends up helping in things such as transitions, like she can get in and out of her chair faster where I have to physically pick up my legs and move them. Right. And so things like that, it's just can be frustrating because like, well, that's not really a fitness thing. But at the same time, I prefer to have something to compete and chase after than to be separated into so many different groups where we lose our competition. I want to go back to your kids really quick before I completely let that go and lose that.

Hey, how often do your kids work out? It really depends on, like in the summer, especially this year, my oldest has every day, multiple times a day. He's kind of got an OCB with it right now, I would say. And then my little one, he's just kinda all over the place. He's doing trampoline and tumbling. So he's getting that kind of gymnastics background in there, but for the most part, he's just playing.

Yeah, I think that's kind of, I'm watching my seven-year-old are finally getting more and more into it This is your six-year-old Yep Hey, and you get yourself in that trampoline yes all the time Yeah, crazy. God. You're a good mom. I fucking hate going in the tram It's a good arm workout. Yeah, I bet I Bet I'm always I'm always sore the next day after going in the trampoline. You get a lot of mom bounce me, mom bounce me, double bounce

me. Double bounce. Yes. Yeah. It says right here not to do that. I know. Just do it. Hey, all of our, all of our injuries are double bounce injuries. All the injuries are double bounce injuries. Now my wife's got this rule only one kid at a time. I can't even believe we're actually pulling it off. Wow. I know it's crazy. It's crazy. Um, you I want to go back to how you found CrossFit. What was the entrance into the gym? You said you started with just one-on-one classes. How did that happen? Yeah, so I had been not doing much for several years. Kind of after my initial injury I had when I was 17,

and then I entered college and kind of spent a good decade focused on academia and career. And I was still swimming, hand cycling, recreational stuff, but not really working out. And then I had seen a challenge put up by someone to do a Tough Mudder. And I was like, you know what, that sounds kind of cool. Like she's doing it in a chair.

That's something I'd like to train for. And she recommended reaching out to a CrossFit gym. And it just so happened that my dad works with one of the CrossFit gym that I go to, the owner of it. One of his good friends is my dad's boss. So he brought me in and that's kind of how I started the one-on-one training. And it was for that Tough Mudder and as I got into it I was like, I don't want to do this Tough Mudder where I still have to rely on people getting me through this race. Like I don't, I don't like relying on people for anything. So once I started getting a little

bit athleticism back it was kind of exciting to just be like, what can I do by on my own? And I dropped the Tough Mudder and just kind of kept doing my own thing. So you did go to that CrossFit gym to train for the Tough Mudder? Yeah, initially. And how long did you do that? I was doing the one on one probably for two months before I started taking the crossfit classes, but it was very quick that it was the mindset changed for me of like, I just want to do this.

You just want to do crossfit? Yeah. When you do Tough Mudder in a wheelchair, so you're going over like terrain, like unpaved paths and all that in a wheelchair? So I've never done it, but the girl that I was following her name's Jeffy that does do it. She relies on a team of people to help her get through it. Okay so sorry so I missed that so you trained for it but never did it. You just got you like you just ended up just falling right into the CrossFit trap.

Yep exactly. Hey how was that going into the gym the first time? Did they know what they were doing? Absolutely not. Um, oh You know one of us did um But I think that was part of the benefit like he was really up for Taking me on and working one-on-one and figuring things out with me. We did a lot of weird shit at first But I think through that we were able to like figure out what works for my body, what works for my impairment, and like I really appreciated the dedication to

like he had never worked with an adaptive athlete before and really was up for the challenge. And really was that the challenge? Hey, so isn't that interesting? So there was some, if the two bars are competence versus experience, there was something about this person's competence that made you realize that you trusted them to use you as a guinea pig to figure out right? I mean, I mean there must have been something you got off this dude or this gal That that made you be like, okay cuz I mean it's man it's your body at the end of the day You don't want to get jacked up. Yeah It was a gradual development of trust

That being said I think I'm also one that's kind of like my body is fucked up. Anyways, let's give it a try Yeah, okay. I'm not really afraid to throw myself around um but yeah, it was it was a development over time of like Let's figure out like initially I didn't have uh, like I would My chair now has a back wheel for all of my lifting initially I didn't have a sports chair until like I did all of my lifting. Initially, I didn't have a sports chair.

And so I did all of my lifting when just backed up against the wall, which I couldn't imagine trying to do now. But it was things over time that just we figured out and how to make it work and what's the best way of adapting. A back wheel is kind of like a wheelie bar like you would see on those motorcycles or drag cars. Yeah, instead of, so like in standard hospital wheelchairs,

they have those wheelie bars where there'll be two of them. Yeah. And they're really tiny, and they basically just stop you from tipping over. This one, it's a bigger wheel, and it comes out further, and it provides that full stability. Hey, is that when you just cruise around, does that wheel roll on the ground or do

you have to engage it by leaning back? Um, so it is very slightly off the ground because otherwise the five wheels like went on uneven ground, you end up catching funny if If they're all flush you don't roll well. But it's very as close to being flush as it can but it's removable so when I'm not lifting I take it off or for certain movements that I don't want it on. It's a quick release? Yeah. Hey is that an invention for was that around before you needed it or is that an invention for you or is that an invention for was that around before you needed it? Or is that an invention for you? Or is that an invention for people in your situation? So this is a performance chair and it is specifically designed for CrossFit. Girl Vanessa, I think her name

helped the company initially design it, but it was already in existence before I came around. Holy cow. That's the first time I've ever heard that. That's a CrossFit specific chair. Yeah. Yeah. And the performance, the majority of seated athletes use this performance chair. How much is that chair?

I don't remember, but it was paid out of pocket. It's not an insurance covered chair. an insurance coverage. It's expensive. It's expensive, yes. Yeah, like you want to forget how expensive it was. Exactly. Yeah, it looks expensive. Yeah, someone wrote big bucks. Yeah, it looks expensive.

That being said, I want to give a shout out to that company. The company is. Uh-oh, we lost her. I lost her. Andrea, testing. Like this does something. Testing, one, two. Andrea, you froze andrew wilson's competing september nineteen to twenty second san antonio

if you have not been to her instagram you should go she has a shitload of followers and it is a crazy crazy instagram account it is wild uh... she is an absolute freak athlete you will be um holy cow wow okay so it's a it's a wow it's a forty five hundred dollar chair by the time you get out and a mum wow oh yeah yeah yeah and you know you you, you can't, it's like, it's not like you're gonna buy the $4,000 version and not click all the extra buttons, right? Yeah, exactly. Okay, so it's a $5,000 chair.

Yeah, that's right. Damn, good on these people for doing that. Good on them. Uh, it's a Performex, uh, it's a perform X It's a performance X fit. Yeah, that's it. It might be more than oh shit. It might be more than 5,000 Wow Oh, yeah airless tire Look at you. Wow. This is awesome. All the upgrades you can do it air mesh upholstery seatbelt

This is awesome all the upgrades you can do it air mesh upholstery seatbelt Well that all-terrain tires primo Sentinel trot tires High pressure tires. I wonder I wonder if you just get all that shit You got to right? Yeah, I mean I use it every day. Yeah, exactly. Totally. It's basically your legs, right? At that point. Right. Might as well get all the good shit. That's insane. Let's see if she's going to come back on. I hope she does. That interview seemed kind of short, didn't it? There she is. A little bit.

Yay. Am I back? Yeah, you're back. That's South Dakota Internet. Oh, shit. That was South Dakota Internet. Let's see, I can't hear you though. Maybe there's a button you can't hear you though. Maybe there's a button you have to push on settings.

Oh, I'll text you. Settings. Check the gear. the Dude, I'm holy arms. Dude you wait till you see we get into her fucking Instagram. I'm telling you. She's a freak dude Peg boards rock climbing like the guy yesterday rope climbing her her core is Nuts her nuts and She's she's a strength to body weight ratio absolute monster

There's videos of her doing, did you see I finally sent you the notes? Yeah, I got it. Okay, there's a video on her Instagram where she's doing a muscle up in a wheelchair. It's kind of crazy. How's that? That's good.

Yeah, girl. Hey, so that chair's like, we were looking at the chair while you were gone. So that chair is crazy. And what a great company. They got like all the options for you. That's like, that's over $5,000. That's like $6,000 by the time you sit in it the first time. Oh yeah. It's over that. Once you add on like the special features and the wheels,

like, yeah. Hey, this is going to be a weird question, but do you love your chair? Like when you wake up in the morning, like you see it and you're like, fuck, that's my chair. I fucking love you. You know what? I absolutely love this chair for working out in. I hate it for day to day. And how come? Cause that back wheel bump shit or? No, I take it off, but I just, it's like a different pair of shoes. I sit differently in it. Like the amount of like how far back, it called the dump like from the angle from your knees to your butt like how far you actually sit into the chair and the back

rest is a little bit higher than in my everyday chair like I I love it for working out my everyday chair is actually broken right now and I'm using this one and I hate it. Hey, how did your everyday chair break? I don't know. I think maybe when my kid threw it in the back of the car one day. And what's broken on it? The actual, the welding of the back broke on it.

So you're going somewhere and you get out and you go to get your chair and it's just all fucked up? Yeah. What do you do? Do you go back home or you got crutches or um? Crutches wouldn't help me any um I Just don't lean as hard back on it like I can function without the backrest there, so I just And I'm making do until I can get it to a welder because that'll be a quicker fix than insurance

Or what about getting a new chair? I am going to get a new chair, but that takes months. Whereas I've got a welder here in town that can give me a quick fix in the meanwhile. The Dakota talk, a welder or the welder within a thousand miles of me. Hey, do you know a welder? I know a place that does welding that I can take it to. That's crazy. I saw Chris said I know a guy crazy does welding that I can take it to. That's crazy. As Chris said, I know a guy. Crazy. That's right.

Man. Wow. It's different in California. coverage, I can get a new one of those like every five years. Unfortunately I've got two different sets of insurance. So my day to day one is usually covered. But do you have any idea how much those are? Are they expensive? There's a huge range based on the material that's used to make the chair, the different options that you go into it, the different companies. There's a couple of large companies that like insurances

work with that those chairs are like $2,000 where most smaller companies are going to get closer to the six or seven. Okay. So it's a full crazy range too. You could spend a fortune on that too. Yeah. Hey, why, um, Andrea, why won't crutches work for you because you don't have control your hips. So it's like being on a slack line. Yeah. It's, I have nothing below my hip bones. So yeah, it wouldn't, it wouldn't be able to do anything. And you had your kids after your accident. Yes. How was that being pregnant? I loved being pregnant.

I felt really healthy with both my pregnancies. Toward the very end, like transfers get hard because my center of gravity is thrown off so much. But for the most part, I think physicians are sometimes thrown off a little afraid of how my body will handle it. But both of my pregnancies were really easy for me. Yeah. That's amazing because – so – and you still have your legs. Yes. But no use of them. Correct.

Why – yesterday, there was a guy on who removed part of his leg because he had no use of it. I'm guessing that you've thought of that. Um, I have actually, and the biggest thing that they typically don't with spinal cord injuries is cause even if we don't have use of them, it provides a counterbalance for transferring or for leaning forward on things. Like it still provides some maintenance of center of gravity aside from it being a major surgery

and the complications that can go with that. Yeah, I apologize for this superficial comment. She's gorgeous. That's disgusting. Don't treat her like that. I really am sorry about that. Well, no more of that stuff, nonsense. That's right.

She's a person. No one likes to be called gorgeous. And so you did the, you did the, you go, you go to the class for two months, and then you get into the main class. And how was that? Was, was, did, was that scary at all? For me initially, just because I like to keep to myself, like, I'm very introverted and like the idea of being in a class setting and then also being in a class setting as the only adaptive athlete, like how to incorporate that. And at the time still not really even knowing what an adaptive athlete in CrossFit meant.

But it was, it was a good class setting. It was a small gym at the time and it was a great community and they really took me on well. And that was also in Sioux Falls? Yeah. And are you still at that same gym? Same gym. It's a larger facility.

The gym's grown a lot over the years, but yes, it's the same gym. Oh, I love to hear that. Any other adaptive athletes in the gym? No. That's interesting. So none of, how long have you been there? Five years. Oh that's interesting that the kind of the word hasn't gotten out. I'm surprised the word hasn't gotten out and like other people haven't come there. I think it's also just more the

like I said like finding adaptive athletes we're not that large of a metropolitan area, like finding the athletes and then whether or not they actually want to do CrossFit. Yeah, there's a guy I've been on his case here in town that would be a lower athlete that I've been trying for years and haven't gotten him in yet. I'm guessing once a year the local TV station or a newspaper article or someone comes out and does a piece on you. It gets out. I have not.

Seriously? Yeah, I was, I know I could already tell you're like, nah, no attention. You get off of me. Hey, how is that with Instagram? You have a pretty amazing Instagram account. You have a shitload of followers. Um, are you comfortable with that? Um, I have become comfortable with it.

I think the thing that makes me most comfortable with it is the idea that like, I can do whatever I want and I can put it out there and then I don't have to do it. I don't have to speak about it to anyone. I don't have to explain myself. Like a lot of my videos, there's large comment threads that like. I don't have to explain myself. Like a lot of my videos, there's large comment threads that I don't have to read. I don't have to... I can put myself out there without having to really explain myself to anyone. Right. And it's probably... I live in a small town too. And it's probably like that too.

Like outside of the gym No one knows who you are. You're just you just go about your business. It's only when you go on Instagram that it's like Holy shit. There's the girl in the wheelchair that does the crazy shit, right? Yeah, that's cool. So so as soon as you put your phone down you have all your anonymity back For the most part. Yes. Yeah, that's cool So you do the class and and when's the first competition you do? First competition I did was the Bacon Beatdown in Daytona Beach, which would have been in 21 maybe?

And so at that point, you've been doing CrossFit for how long? I started in the end of 2018. Okay, so three years. Yeah. And why did you do that? What made you wanna get into the competitive space? Well, I had done the open. I think the first like year or two I did the open, I didn't know that Wheelwad existed and we

just adapted the open as we thought it should be done. And then finding Wheelwad and seeing that they had actual open workouts for us at the time was really exciting. And finding like, so one thing I think social, I don't like social media, but for adaptive athletes, I think social media has been like a really great thing because we are so dispersed. It helped me to find and see what other people are doing

and kind of bring a dispersed community together. So I think finding that out there made me want to go to some competitions and actually meet some of the people that I was seeing online. Okay, so more than the competitive thing, you're like, oh, I learned how to use the rower, adapt the rower with this guy,

I learned how to adapt the assault bike with this guy. Oh, this guy gave me the inspiration to do my first pull up with my wheelchair to attach to me. I want to meet these people. Exactly. So it's more of a get together. Yeah. And I mean, not even just like among seated athletes, like I had been watching Vic for a long time. Like I want Vic was going to be at that comp. I want to go meet Vic and watch him do a rope climb. Like, right. Right. And, and so it's more of a get together where you guys work out. What do you mean?

The competitions. Oh, we like to try and make them an intense competition, but at the end of the day, I think we all are there with an understanding that we've all got a lot more going on in our life besides just this competition And you said on your Instagram on that trampoline post I think you said hey this is the reason I work out for your kids, which is interesting because That's like a huge part of if I ever want to take a day off. That's what I remind my I always remind myself Hey, dude, you have fucking kids and you're old. Like, you better go in like no matter what time of day it is, you better

go in there. So you have that as a huge motivation. Yeah, I think one of the things that's always in my mind is like, I don't want to ever enter into a circumstance and have my kids be like, Oh, but my mom can't do that. And neither one like my kids know that like, I might not be able to walk into the room, but I'm going to find a way to be able to do whatever it is that they want and do it with them. And that I have the ability to do that. And I really like that. At least up until now, like I have not experienced them being like, Oh, but mom can't do that.

And you know, it's crazy to you, you had that you your kids have never known you with legs. Right. And you know, what's crazy about that is so for them. And not and this doesn't matter. You know, as a parent, I'm sure you know, this we get being taken for you kind of want your kids to take you for granted because you don't want them to be stressed at all about you about you. But they, they still don't know. Like that, like what you have to do to be who you are.

You know what I mean? Like they just brought, they just take you for granted. Just everything's just completely normal. We got a bad ass mom. Everyone must have a bad ass. Like it's, she's not even bad ass. That's just a regular fucking baseline mom. We just got one right off the shelf,

but at some point you're going to probably realize, holy shit, we don't have the Costco mom. We got like some different mom. Well, and like the fun part is now like my oldest has, is around me enough. Like I still get the day to day comments of like getting out at the grocery store like do I need help and like my oldest is now experienced that enough that like he's really good at making jokes back or calling me out on shit

when I like it's he is Venera among adaptive impairments enough that like his understanding of it's really great to see. Um on the side note do people try to touch you a lot? Um my chair yes. But if you went out like that people like um do you have that cross fitter woman thing where like you go out and if you have your arms showing, people want to come over and examine you? No.

You don't have that? People don't do that to you? No. You think it's because you're in a wheelchair? Absolutely. Oh, isn't that fascinating? Because if I go out with even my wife, people, someone, someone inevitably will come over to her and she's not like a high end crosshairs.

She just like, just to, you know, she just crosses. But if you go out with her and her arms are showing, someone has to come over to her and she's not like a high end crasher. She's just like just, you know, she just crosses. But if you go out with her and her arms are showing someone has to come over and be like, hey, what's going on over here? Wow, that's fascinating. Yeah, no. Because you I mean, you clearly look you look like a professional athlete. Thanks. Yeah. I mean, you look pretty you look pretty wild. I mean, you look like a Ferrari. You look like, okay, you got the whole body tuned up like high end, all the stuff's.

Yeah, it's nuts. Wow, that's fascinating. I wonder if it is, just so you think maybe the wheelchair scares them away. They don't wanna come over and maybe scares isn't the right word, but intimidates them. Like, hey, you can't talk to her. I hope so.

But they stared, You catch me. You absolutely stare. That's the S yeah. Yeah. You're definitely stared material. Um, when you were a kid, when you were a kid, what did you do? What was your sport? Gymnastics from a young age. Uh, three or four. Wow. And, you born and raised in the Dakotas? Midwest. I moved around a lot, but always Midwest. And that was constant for you from when you were a baby to how old?

Until I broke my back, 17. And you broke your back in a gymnastics accident? Yep. Holy shit. Wow. How intense did gymnastics get for you? Did you have Olympic dreams? I think every young gymnast does. But realistically, no, but I was planning on doing it in college. And were you competing at a really high level? I know that's like, don't they have like different levels in gymnastics?

Yep. So I was competing as a level 10. Um, and then like I said, it was my senior year that I got injured, but I was planning on doing it in college. Like I had been recruited onto, um, my college team. So, so you're in, you it in college like I had been recruited onto a college team. So… So you're in high school. Your senior was life good?

Yeah. You liked high school? Yeah, I enjoyed high school. And did you get a scholarship to college? I think the school I went to, I was planning on going to Cornell because I was focused on the Ivy League schools and that was the only one that had gymnastics. And so you applied and you had already gotten in? Yes. And where were you in your senior year? How, what month was it when you had your accident? January. So halfway through the school year. Yep.

Was it out of meat? Practice. Holy. So at the time I was doing both high school and club gymnastics. Um, and they use the same facility. So like I would get out of school at like two 45 and I'd be at the gym until eight. Um, and so I was kind of in the middle of those two practices when the accident happened.

Had you seen any serious accidents in your three, in your previous 14 years as a gymnast? Um, I mean, I've seen broken bones, but never a catastrophic injury. No. And that's what you would call your industry injury catastrophic. Yeah. That's what they call it. That's it right there on the, is that the high bar?

That is the high bar. And that's from the, so I've never actually watched the video, but that is a still shot from the video of the injury. Were you conscious for the whole thing? Yes. And did you know right away? Um, I mean, I knew something was seriously wrong. I think my, I, my mind has blocked certain memories. I remember yelling for my coach to come over like instantly and I remember waiting for the ambulance but

most of that is fragments in my memory. So you're just basically an obsessed athlete for 14 years and were you just a one discipline athlete? It was just gymnastics, gymnastics, gymnastics. Um, pretty much I did high jump in high school just because it came naturally. Um, but I didn't, my focus was always on gymnastics. And, and, and high jumps, that's the one where you, the Fosbury flop one where you turn your back and., could you do that? I could. Um, I've naturally just tall and lean. That's my build, which is ironic because that's terrible for gymnastics. Um, but yeah, so high jump, it fit well with my gymnastics background

and my flexibility and my body build was just kind of a natural thing. But it wasn't, it wasn't a, I love gymnastics. I never felt that way about it. Hey, so that was 21 years ago. Yeah. I'm trying to think, uh, um, what year was that? You know, my injury 2003.

Oh, okay. I don't even look that. So that's before the iPhone. Yes. I got my first cell phone when I was in the hospital. And, and how, how was that filmed? Who, what were the odds of it being filmed? Um, so at the time it was this skill that I was working on.

And so a lot of the times we would film it and then go back in so that we could watch and the coach could show us our body positions or what needed to be changed. Um, so filming was frequently done, I think, during our training. So that must've been a pretty high level facility. Yes. That they had resources like that. Yeah. A lot of high level gymnasts there. Um, at the club.

Yes. And, and the way you said you took the class was that you had resources like that? Yeah. A lot of high level gymnasts there. Um, at the club. Yes. And the way you said you took the class was basically the classes were back to back, your high school gymnastics, and then you had a little break and then your club gymnastics would start. Um, there was no break. Um, so club, club practice was usually like four to eight. So club practice was usually like four to eight. And I think high school was like 245 to 530 or something like that. So we would just, me and a few other girls did both and we would just at some point transition from one group to the other. Yeah, as a heathen, you're right. Sevan's version of BC and AD is before iPhone and after iPhone.

That is kind of one of my... And your parents weren't there? At practice, no. Oh my God. That must've been fucking wild. And then, and then what happens? Does an ambulance come? Yep.

Ambulance came. I remember the Very few memories from that first night But I remember when I found out that I was spending the night at the hospital being like oh shit Like I am actually spending the night here And then I ended up spending like three months there, you know But yeah, it was it was a Experience any open wound But yeah, it was, it was a experience.

Any open wound? Nope, they did surgery that, I mean, immediately that night they went in and did a spinal fusion and put in a bunch of hardware to stabilize my spine. My bone grafts off my hip, but no open injuries. And what did happen? So that picture is a release move and I held on to the bar way too long. And so when I fell, I landed flat on my back. You're going that way. You're going that way. I'm going back that towards the coach. Okay. Okay. Okay. And I'm supposed to let go of the bar and sit up and straddle your legs and catch the bar.

And I held on far too long. So I didn't end up sitting up at all and I landed flat on my back on the ground on uneven mats. So I think I crushed one vertebrae just from the impact, but because the mats were uneven, it stretched severely stretched. Apparently it's intact, but severely stretched my spinal cord. The whole thing. stretch my spinal cord. The whole thing. At the level of T 10 to T 12 is where the impact was. So basically about at my belly button. Why haven't you watched the video?

You think it'd be just too traumatic? I don't think it would be, but I've been warned by people throughout my whole life that like once you watch it, you can't unwatch it. Like why? So for that reason, I never have, I don't think it would bother me, but I, it's just never been, need to. Um, it was someone's supposed to catch you. Um, so there was a settlement with my injury for multiple things that could have been done differently.

As far as how many times I had done the skill and the setup of the spotting and the mat setup. But none of that matters because you don't have use your legs. Correct. Yeah. Isn't that it's, it's, it's so interesting. My wife was crossing, my, my wife, uh, had dedicated her life to doing yoga, like in a, in a crazy way, like flown all over the world, taking courses, spent just endless hours. And then she was hit by a car and then she almost had to have her leg amputated and there was a settlement. But it's like, it

doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't just change the whole trajectory of everything. It's like, it doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, right? Yep. At the end of the day, it's your legs. Like, you'd rather be wrong a thousand times and get your legs back. Right? Yeah, it's wild. I think about that with the Lazar thing too, like so much like all all all his family wants is just his life to be back. They just want to sleep. Yeah, like they don't like so so you so you're in there and then you and then basically you know right away that that's it. No more gymnastics and your whole trajectory of your life's been changed?

So I'm 17. So I remember when the doctor first came in like in the first week with a wheelchair and I'm pretty sure I kicked him out of the room because I was like, I don't want to hear about this. So I was stubborn to accepting the information at first of the situation. I think what helped a lot, so I was at the local hospital for, I don't remember at this point, maybe two weeks. And then they flew me to a specialty hospital out in Denver. And I was there for the majority of my recovery. So probably two and a half months I spent at the hospital out there. And I think being at that facility where there were a lot of higher up injuries, a lot of more serious injuries that kind of made you made it hard to feel bad for yourself. And I attribute that a lot to me being able to like accept my situation and move on with it.

The only thing I can think to compare it to Andrea is when you have a kid, like you don't have a kid, you don't have a kid, and then there's a kid. You know, it's like just all of a sudden you just got a kid in your house. Just a baby. And you're like, what the fuck? Where'd you come from? You know what I mean? What do I do with you?

Yeah, what do I do with you? And then, you know, next thing you know, you have two kids and you're like, where'd you come from? And it's like, but you don't, you don't do accept or not accept. Like everything pre-kid just goes away. There's no option. But because all of a sudden you just got to take care of this thing. This thing has to be fed and take care of and like held and all that shit, right? That you got to do to raise a kid. But with your situation, it sounds like, and with a lot of people who've gone through similar

situations, it's not like that Well, I get are you forced to accept it or like your brain can fight? um, I Mean there's a lot of just like relearning your day-to-day life, you know Like relearning how to get dressed relearning how to open doors and you know Simple things that we don't that we take for granted, you know and simple things that we take for granted. So there's the actual reality of those things that takes time and settles in,

or can be frustrating that things that used to take you a minute to just run out the door, well, now you have to, it takes longer. It takes me longer to load up my chair into the car, although I'm pretty fast at that now. takes longer. It takes me longer to load up my chair into the car. Although I'm pretty fast at that now. But I don't know if it's just my nature or if it was the specific circumstances. But I think that I was very quick to accept it for what it was and kind of move on. I think everyone was always waiting for

the big emotional impact to hit me and it never really did. Do you think it's still in there? At this point, no. In the initial years, there were times where it was like. I would eventually like have days that like the frustration hit in and you just like, I probably when I was in college, and like, I would get frustrated and I would just have a day and like break down. At this point. Um, I can't picture my life any other way. Right. And I have a great life.

So like, I don't think that there are, there are, there are sure there are things that I miss out on are like, oh, like when I see pictures of like people out hiking in like the middle of nowhere, like I wish I could go out there and do that. But for the most part, I am good. You present like you have a great life, by the way. You got your face presents that way. Obviously, you have all the other things too. You have beautiful kids and a crazy body. But I mean, you present like you have a fucking great life, which is

cool. I love people who have a great life. you have a fucking great life, which is cool. I love people who have a great life. Like, I think I can find joy in simplicity. Yeah. Um, like I, I don't need much outside of my, like, I like being happy in my day to day, like, I don't want to like wait for like one exciting experience to like be the thing I'm waiting for. I'd rather.

They have everyday simplicity. When's the last time you've told this story? Of my injury? It's been a while actually. Yeah. Do you not like telling it? Oh, it has no impact on me. No, okay. And then after that happens, all the people in your, what was that like? Every person you see, you kind of have to process it with them, right? So the thousand people that you might see in a one month period, every day see you as this powerful gymnast.

And then all of a sudden they see you as this girl in a wheelchair. Was that fucking wild having, because so it was all process it with all thousand people, right? You're like, Jesus Christ, I have to do this again. Yeah. having because so it was all process it with all thousand people right you're like Jesus Christ I have to do this again yeah so I was very anxious to leave the state because it was one of those where like I came back from the hospital and everybody knew me like I there was no anonymity anymore it was like that

was the girl from high school that had the injury. And like, um, I was happy to, I went to college out in New Jersey and I was very happy to like go start over where like nobody knew whether it was a new injury or not. Like that's the only way they knew me. They didn't know me from before. And like, I think I was also really fortunate at the time, like my boyfriend was super supportive and you know, at age 17, 18, that did a lot for helping me feel good about myself and being confident to like be okay with my new circumstance. Oh, that's really cool.

Yeah. Um, how did your parents take it? Oh, that's really cool. Yeah. How did your parents take it? It was very difficult. My mom moved out to Colorado and stayed at the hospital with me while my dad stayed back in South Dakota working. I, as a parent, can't imagine going through what they went through. I'm very close with my mom. She's my best friend. She's my biggest supporter. We got close because we went through so many things together.

There's definitely positive things that came out of it, but it was devastating for her, you know? Well, and I'm guessing when you had your first kid, it, it, it shifted the whole perspective even more, right? Like when it happens, you know, your parents are bummed, but after you have kids, you're like, oh shit. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, that's wild well, she must be so fucking proud of you right now that she must be so proud of you

Does she tell you that does your mom tell you she's proud of you? No, but I know what she is yeah, yeah, don't know. I wonder if my parents are proud of me. My dad told me the other day, Andrea, that he's told me he's proud of me probably like four or five times in my life. But my dad called me the other day and told me that he feels like he's let me and my sister down because we've ended up as conservatives. We live in California.

He meant it. I was like, I didn't know what to say. I wanted to be like, dude, you should be proud of me. I made the fucking intellectual leap. I hate it. Fuck, it was crazy. It was crazy. It was crazy. It was fucking wild.

The kids did it to me. It's my kids fault. That's right. I'd still be a good fucking liberal if it wasn't for my kids. Okay. And so okay, so you do that. So you go through all that.

Do you pick up any other sports or training training and how does someone go from being an athlete for 14 years to all of a sudden? not Yeah It was a very you know, like dramatic end and I I think it was if it's gonna happen a good age for it to happen at Because everyone was going off to college and kind of starting new lives. And so I did the college transition and I went to Princeton

University, so that New Jersey and academics were crazy difficult so it kind of just became my business. So even though you're going to Cornell for gymnastics, when that happened, they didn't take you? When that happened, I considered other schools that didn't have gymnastics teams. Oh, okay. Well, fuck you went to a great school, Princeton. Yeah. So I went to Princeton for my undergrad. And I think I was able to kind of focus all of my efforts into my academics instead and because it was

so difficult it was just it was easy to have something fill that space. And so I did that for four years and then I went and got my masters after that. In what? I have my masters in after that. In what? I have my master's in public health. Oh, boy. Yeah. Oh, boy.

Focused on reproductive health in developing nations. All right. All right. All right. I suspend all judgment. Caleb, let's talk about her when we're done. I want to make some off the seas about her positions. And so did you go to the rec center on campus at all

during your four years in full around there at all or going to the, you know what I mean? I think I went swimming maybe once. I had my own hand cycle, so I would do that. But really, for the most part no. So you went from like sweating profusely every single day like just gallons of sweat to none. Yeah. Yeah that's fucking wild.

Were you going crazy? I would go crazy. I think it was more like it was such a change in life that it was like this starting off, you know, like it was a different life. And like it transitioned and I don't know. Did you ever what about this? Did you ever like when you got your you got your wheelchair, you go away to Princeton and you're like, did you ever do what about this? Did you ever like, when you got your, you got your wheelchair, you go away to Princeton and you're like, did you ever do any stuff like, okay, today I'm going to try, I know that five miles away that there's a coffee shop and the furthest I've wheeled is two miles. I'm going to wheel over there, drink a coffee and wheel back.

Did you do that? So I have no, I never kept track of like how far it was, but yeah, I walked everywhere or I wheeled everywhere. I'm put in many miles a day getting around campus. But would you set goals for yourself? Did you ever do stuff like that? No. The competitive part of you wasn't like, hey, I'm going to... I think the competitive part of me at that point in time was like, I'm going to try and get through this class. Academics were difficult. Yeah. And like, I don't know, that was

always something that was really important growing up as well. So it just filled that void. Like instead of it being like both academics and athletics, it just all became academics. And you swim now? Um, I haven't in a while, but I did before especially like And you swim now? I haven't in a while, but I did before, especially like before CrossFit swimming. It was the one thing that kind of post injury didn't involve me sitting in any type of chair and it felt really good to be able to just like freely move my body around. Um, that being said, naturally, I, like as a kid, I hated swimming, I got

claustrophobic, I could not figure out how to breathe. So it was like, after my injury, I had to force myself to learn, like I took a couple swimming lessons just to really like, I wanted to be able to do it properly. it properly. How do you swim? I know that's a weird question, but how do you swim? If you have legs and you can't like stop and put them down at the bottom. Sure. So once you get going, so I tie a like a pole buoy and I actually strap it around my legs to help pull them up. Although I've been told by Tom Yaska, who's pro swimmer, that that's probably making it more drag for me at this point in time than helping. But the thought is that helps keep my legs up. But once you get going, they kind of have a little bit of buoyancy and stay up on their own anyways.

have a little bit of buoyancy and stay up on their own anyways. Um, um, if you push the buoy all the way up into your crotch, it wouldn't have drag, right? It's that space in between the crotch where the water would get in between your crotch and wherever the buoy is that would push it. That also wouldn't be doing anything. It wouldn't lift your legs up. All right. Yeah.

Who am I? Look at me trying to solve it. Okay. So yeah, I usually like strap it around by my knees. What do you do if you have to rest? Get to the end of the pool. Okay. Just kidding. No, my body is like naturally buoyant.

I feel like if I just roll over, I can float forever. Oh, interesting. You really, because you look dense as shit, you look like you would sink like a rock. No. No. And do you, and do you have to do that frequently? Like I know you said you're not swimming a lot, but do you have to do that where you have to roll over on your back and take a break?

No, I'll usually, I, I've never done open water swims. So I imagine if I did that, I would need to, but typically in a pool, like I just swim the length of the pool. Um, okay. So, uh, 17 years old, uh, stopped gymnastics, uh, go four years of undergrad, two years of masters, no training during that time. Six years of just. Uh, learning re re learning how to use your body and day to day activities from driving to brushing your teeth

to cooking and all that shit. Just figuring it all out. Yeah. And while going to school, where did you go to get your masters? Johns Hopkins. Oh shit. Wow. You're smarty pants.

And what year did you finish John Hopkins? 2010. Don't worry. I kept going. Then I went back to school again. I got my nursing degree at Columbia. Holy shit. So you were doing good in school to be able to keep leapfrogging to other great schools. Yeah.

Did you, uh you staying in school because you wanted to stay in school or were you staying in school to avoid going down to the real world? So I initially, the reason I went to get my public health degree was because I wanted to pursue med school and I needed to take a year off so that my senior grades could count in and I needed health insurance.

So I initially kept, went and got my master's because as a student I could keep health insurance. Wow. And then I kept going, I went back to when I was in public health school was when I was introduced. So I initially wanted to get my medical degree and go into obstetrics. Is that baby stuff? What's obstetrics? Yeah, women's health. Okay. Um, and it was through my public health that I was introduced to like nurse

midwifery and I was really interested in that instead. So that's why I went back to nursing school instead. And the idea was that I wanted to get my master's in nursing and do be a nurse midwife. But as, as I got more experienced with that, it was a hard realization that like the way I think midwifery should be practiced, I actually physically couldn't do it. Because of the legs. Yeah. Meaning like if you had to do some, like you could probably do it, but if shit went sideways Because of the legs. Yeah. Meaning like if you had to do some, like you could probably do it, but if shit went sideways and one in a thousand times, you might not be able to be the best

person to do that. My, my love of like nurse midwifery and natural childbirth is like not in a hospital setting and yes, so the, the being able to maneuver myself and help a woman being the correct positions and whatnot, it would not have worked out. Did you have home births? So my first, I had both of mine were hospital births, but I like to think my first one was a very natural. I lived up in Alaska and it was a small hospital where like they didn't even do epidurals. Um, so both of them were hospital births, but none, not medicalized, I would say. And do you think that you did that?

The hospital births were because of your situation because of the legs? Um, no, in Alaska it was cause because that was the only option. I would have done a home birth in Alaska if I had the option. And then with my second, I found out halfway through my pregnancy that he was clubfoot. And my second was a little more medicalized from the beginning because I had him with a donor. And so he was through IVF. And so it was more medicalized to begin with. But once I found out that he was clubfoot, it was all,

you know, I made sure that we were in a hospital and whatnot. Someone was on yesterday. Don't tell me his name. I have to, Russell Almondinger. Yeah. What a great name, right? Almondinger. Yeah. What a great name right? Almond. He's a great guy. He's awesome. He was born two club feet I think. He called it bilateral something. Your son only had one club foot? Correct. Yep. And and what is that? The footots turned in like this or the toes are curled or it's the the whole foot is both curled in and down

So like I like three days old they started putting like he was in a cast and they gradually like shift it Like they adjust the casts like once a week and then like he was in a brace till he was like four Yeah, um, oh shit. So okay, so you got payback for what you did to your mom Um and and kids are like fucking Gumby then like literally it's crazy what the bones can do Did they yeah was that something that was fixed? Um, I mean he he gets annual checkup sport. He's back into sleeping within the orthotic just to try and stretch out the tendons are tight on that one side and like that one calf will never be as big as the other. Right.

But to anyone that didn't know they wouldn't wouldn't be able to tell. Oh congratulations that's fucking yeah. Hey why do you think you're into, why are you into, why do you see birth, I'm putting words in your mouth, I learned this from the birth fit ladies, but why do you see birth as a biological process and not a medical process? Why do you think you see it that way?

Because it is. I mean, I know, you don't have to convince me, but for so many people don't know it um There's so much fear around it that that That I don't know for some I mean when my wife was first pregnant we thought people who would have numbers would be batshit crazy and Then and then the lady who was taking our birth who we were taking our birthing class from

Great walk up to my wife after class and they didn't push home births or hospital births. We just took a birthing class. She walked up to my wife and be like, hey, I'm hearing you and your husband talk. You don't want a fucking hospital birth. You guys aren't talking about that when you guys talk. And I'm like, don't listen to her. She's fucking crazy.

Go and go to the doctor. But we ended up having a home birth. And I was like, holy shit, the brave people are the ones who have it in the hospital. Cause when you have the baby at home, you're just home and like everyone goes away and like the thought of someone talking to me or my wife after the baby comes out sounds nauseating. Right. I don't know. I've always just, to me it was like, it,

it just made sense. It's a natural process. Like there's. Were you a home birth? Did your mom have you at home? No, I was a C-section, repeat C-section. I think a lot of it also during my, when I was getting my master's degree, I went and studied in Malawi for a couple of months. Where in Malawi did you go? All around Blountair and the Long Way. All around Blountair and the Long Way. Were you at births there? So I was there studying birth injuries. So women that had birth injuries that had been repaired and seeing how successful those repairs were. Largest freshwater lake maybe in the world freshwater lake, maybe in the world for sure.

Africa, beautiful lake. Yeah. Crazy. Right. Yeah. I hung out there a lot doing, uh, uh, making documentaries on malnourished children, uh, who, who needs vitamin A man, Malawi is amazing. It's a great country. Yeah. Amazing. Um, so yeah, I spent a couple months there. Capital's crazy. I stayed out of the capital. I was in the villages. The capital's crazy. Do you remember flying in there? Sorry to interrupt you. Do you remember flying in there or out of there? And it was just campfires everywhere. Yes. Smoke everywhere. And you're like, and everyone has an open

fire in there. Yeah, yeah. Thousand open fires. Do you remember that? Yes. That shit was nuts. I'd never seen that anywhere. Yeah. That was crazy. You went to Malawi to study injuries. Yeah. And I think I seeing the hospitals versus natural birth in those settings, I think made me increase my interest in natural birth. Any specific stories you would say, like anything you saw that just clicked for you, you're like, okay. No, I think just that how much everything was just a part of like the natural process, you know, like it was a given that's just how you would do it.

Did you did you actually see birds like in villages? Not in the villages. I was in the maternity ward at one of the hospitals just for rotations one day. But when I was in the villages, I was interviewing women in their homes that were postpartum. They spoke English? No, we had translators with us. Yeah. Crazy, man. That's awesome. That's I haven't met too many people who've been to Malawi. Yeah. Yeah. What a fascinating place.

On a total side note, I always feel like if you've never been to like India or Africa or China that you probably shouldn't weigh in on like Humanity because they're doing a totally different social experiment than we are here in the United States totally different Yeah, like like how do you have a PhD in psychology? If you haven't lived in Africa for six months or China for six months or India like they're doing something there. They're just They're totally different. Yeah, like like we don't even it's yeah, it's wild Africa is amazing. Um How long were you there? About four months, I think holy shit. That's a stint. Yeah

Wow, oh were you scared to go there? um Wow. Oh, were you scared to go there? Um, no, I was really excited. Um, I mean, it was post-injury, obviously. So I was a little, a little into wheelchair. So, um, it's weird enough being there white, right? Like, I mean, I spent a lot of time, I got used to it, but if you, if you don't get used to it, like I've been there with other white people, they don't get used to it. They freak the fuck out.

Yeah. So my boyfriend went with me to get me around. Yeah. And yes, we got lots and lots of looks. That's a good dude. He was a good dude for many years. I don't know, but we had many years where he was no longer a good dude, but it's my oldest dad. But boys, that happens to boys. Yeah, then we go through our phases. We have a back But I know they were I will never take away the good years that like he did a lot for me

I'm so so he stayed there with you for the four months and help wheel you around. Yeah, good sidewalks are not a premium there No the four months and help wheel you around. Yeah. Cause sidewalks aren't at a premium there. No, there are a lot of piggyback rides. Wow. Crazy. Support for today's episode comes from one skin. Do you have a little too much fun this summer? You know what I mean? A little too much time in the sun.

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Yeah. You're back in South Dakota. It's crazy. It's they should see, they should study you and see where they failed. And then, so then you finished Columbia and what year, what year is that? 2012. So you have your nursing degree? Yes.

Are you practicing right now? No. Um, and then what do you do after 2012, after Columbia? Um, so I moved to Alaska and worked as a nurse, a public health nurse for the state of Alaska. You're going crazy places. Well, Alaska can't be that fucking wheelchair friendly either, right? Um, it was not. Um, I lived in Ketchikan so far southeast. Um, you have any ice accidents? You ever fall out of your chair sliding on ice? No, cause Ketchikan is far enough south. There isn't ice. Okay. Like,

I think I like Washington state to the extreme liver that no one ever thinks about. Yeah, exactly. Okay. Um, so yeah, I moved up there, lived up there for a year. Um, they had my oldest son up there. And then after having him, we moved back to South Dakota to be closer to home. And what year is, so that was 2012-11? I had him in 2013.

2013. And so now there's this five-year gap between the you said you found CrossFit in 2018? Yeah. At that point if I would have said hey could you do a pull-up could you do one pull-up? Probably not. No. First time you ever tried to pull up in a CrossFit gym. Could you do a pull-up? Uh, probably.

I don't even remember. Were you always, uh, as felt as you are now? Oh, no, absolutely. I mean, I've always been, um, Finn. You didn't get fat when, uh, absolutely. I mean, I've always been, um, thin. You didn't get fat when, uh, no. Um, I, I think genetically I just, yeah, tall and thin. Um, but- Don't believe that people. That's a lie. That's the first lie.

An hour and 12 minutes. No one's genetically thin. Like, she works hard for that. There's no- No, but like, I- You don't eat like 12 minutes. No one's genetically, like she works hard for that. There's no- No, but like I- You don't need like a- I don't know. Let's face it, right? Oh, that too.

But like, I was always the athlete. Like I wanted the bigger body build. You know, like I wanted to be that powerful gymnast. Like I wished I was shorter. I wished that I was, you know, stout. Like I wanted that and I and that's not my build. And even with CrossFit, I tracked my macros for a good two, three years, really trying to put on mass,

which is a struggle for me. And I got burned out doing it, but then also my oldest wanted to start measuring measuring out food and I was like Nope, we're gonna be done with this game like that that idea is just Through the whole thing off. So now I'm just I Respect that I respect the shit of that. Yeah, you don't I don't know if I don't Need to think a little bit more clearly about that. But my first

instinct is, is get probably I don't want my kid measuring obsessing on food. Right? Yeah, I don't like it doing that. I already had I got my own issues. Yeah. Okay, so the 2013 to 15 you come back and then do you start working right away? Do you get a job in a hospital? Um, so when I moved back to South Dakota, I worked for the city of Sioux Falls as a nurse. And then I actually went back to nursing school one more time to get my master's, to get a nurse practitioner.

And I think things had changed enough when I was younger, like in nursing school, like there were challenges and I with accessibility and at that point in my life, it was like, I kind of liked the challenge, like I'm going to prove you wrong type thing. And when I ran into that, you know, now as a 30 year old mom going back to school, it was no longer a fun challenge. It was frustrating. And I was like, I don't want to do this anymore. So I got through my first year of-

What are some examples, Andrea, like the layout of the room, like checking people's ears or getting people on scales or? Yep. And actually, so like the first year of my, going back for my master's, it was a two-year program. And I did, got through all the academics fine, and then we got into where we were supposed to start our placements, and they couldn't even find a placement for me.

It was a month in, and everyone else had placements, and I was still waiting for mine. And I found a friend that eventually took me on. Um, but the whole, the dynamic of having to fight the system, I no longer. Had the energy or desire to do that. Cause they couldn't accommodate what you needed in order to practice. Like a, a, a, a, a nurse who's in a wheelchair that said that no one wanted to accommodate that. Correct. All because of physical challenges, like with the, uh, not your physical

challenges, but the physical challenges. The physical challenge is more of the facilities than anything. The facilities challenges. Yeah. Sorry. That's very nice. Yep. Are they honest?

But also- Are they honest about that or do they shoot or do they bullshit you? They bullshit you. Absolutely. Um, and then like, I think a lot of it also was more the idea of like, people's perceptions, I got tired of having to like, when a patient would come in the room, just like, to have to prove myself even to the patient and the feeling of that never went away. And I was like, I don't want to be starting off in a new profession, feeling like I'm

always having to like prove myself. Right. So I walked away from nursing. I didn't finish my masters. I walked away and that was at the time that I was really getting into CrossFit. And so I kind of, I just let that go. I've never seen a doctor or nurse in a wheelchair. I mean I've you and far between Yeah

There was this there was when I lived in Berkeley there was a store there I Think it was a place where like I? Think it was like a cigar shop or a cigarette shop or something There was a club where you shop or a cigarette shop or something. That was a club where you could still smoke in there or something. I can't, I don't remember the exact details, but they didn't have a, they didn't have a, a wheelchair ramp and they couldn't, and they couldn't afford to put a wheelchair ramp in and the city closed them down. And I always thought that that was kind of a weird thing because granted you want everyone to have access

But then this dude's business got shut down because the lamp the lamp because in Berkeley you probably had to spend $30,000 just in permits to get the access to build the ramp. You know what I mean? Yeah, okay, let's lay down a few pieces of wood It's probably not you know what I mean? It's not like fucking middle of Nevada or Idaho where you could, well, I think you're going to build a ramp. It has to be built to code. Yeah, exactly. And then, so probably just to have the guy come out and build that was,

but that was the interesting thing. And I'm guessing the host, but it's interesting because the politicians would put that in place and fucking put this small business out. But when it comes to the hospital, they're like, we're not doing it. Yeah. Yeah, interesting. I mean, and I'm not hating on, society has to move forward, right?

Like we gotta do things. You can't just let one dude in a wheelchair fucking stop all civilization from moving forward. But then on the other hand, like then you gotta make fucking accommodation. You gotta be able to tell the business owner, okay, you don't need a permit, go ahead and build this ramp. Well, and the interesting thing too,

with nursing and medicine, the further up you get in those fields, typically the less hands-on you are. It's more about your knowledge. A nurse is doing more physical labor than a nurse practitioner. Like, you're no longer doing like the bed care, you're doing more of the actual like, diagnosing. So it should require less physical ability. Right. But people's perceptions of what people's perceptions of what a practitioner should look like is really damning. Yeah, that's interesting. I mean, I guess I wouldn't judge someone in a wheelchair, but I do have my other judgments. When I go to the doctor, I do start judging. Yeah. I mean, I'm not skinny by any means. But every time I go to the doctor, I'm the skinniest person there out of all the employees and all the patients. So I think like you even work on cars like me.

Yeah. So, yeah, I get that. Yeah. So so when you mean practitioner, you mean like if you like your thing would be, hey, I've seen 1000 kids come in with earaches and 80% of them are this. So this is the first thing we should check. And that's not a physical thing. That's like an intellectual thing of just like, yeah. Okay. Yep. So what do you do? You have all that education and you get out of that space. When my wife had a midwife, she did all the gynecological exams like prior to the thing. And then we did them all at the house. It was awesome. So you do that now? Do you do home? No? I am not working. I've so my youngest was born in 2018 and that was I was in getting my masters in nursing at the time and then when I dropped out of school with him, I just have been at home with my kids. So I have not been working since then. Are you are you homeschooling your kids? No.

But is your six year old started school? He's in first grade now. Oh, wow. Congratulations. God, what a great thing. Your kids are so fucking lucky to have you. So, you're a full-time athlete and a full-time mom. Correct. Yeah, what a good ass life. You are having, you are living it. I'm a full-time like podcaster dude and then just a full-time dad. It's awesome. Yeah.

Man. And so, how did you qualify this year? What place did you get in the open? I got first in the open. And how did you do last year at the games? I won the games last year. Oh, no shit. Yeah.

How many times was that your first time winning it? Second. Oh my goodness. Do you feel, are you still able to enjoy it? Are you starting to feel pressure? Um, I don't feel pressure with it. No. Um, I mean, I think you always get like the anxious nerves before right before you get on the competition floor. Um, but I don't think that there's ever like a feeling of the pressure with it. No.

When you came home from the games last year There wasn't like some newspaper in sux, su falls That was like and we have the fittest woman in a wheelchair here and they got the camera in the van out front No, no The fuck don't tell them to do that. I won't but it's just weird. It seems like something local tv would be all excited Right Keep them away. Especially, especially cause you're not hidden on Instagram. Okay. Um, tell me,

um, what, tell me some of the, um, are you doing stuff that you never thought you would do? Absolutely. Yeah. And what are some of those things? What about that giant rock climbing wall? So that's, um, it's a new thing for me starting, I think probably January I started doing rock climbing and wanting to really pursue pair climbing and they just announced that it's going to be in the 28 Paralympics so I've got that as like a long shot as hey something I might want to work toward that as like a long shot as, hey, something I might want to work toward.

Um, but it's, it's a fun challenge for me. I mean, I've always, my favorite things in the gym to do have always been rope climbs and peg boards. And like, I'm always a little leery with the peg board of like, if I fall, I'm going to break my femur. Um, and so it was like, well, let me get actual, like, get on a harness and be able to just keep going. So it's been, I'm loving the new challenge of it and like the intricacies of developing different type of grip strength and like the mental challenge of trying to canvas a wall where it's not built for a pair of climbers. So like what what footholds can I make work for a crimp grip and like it's it's a new challenge for me. So if you were to fall from there theoretically that rope would catch you like it would tighten

up. Yeah yeah it's a harness. Have you ever fallen? Well, yeah, I mean, when you when you get to the top, you find come down through the you just let go. It's on a belay. Do you do it or do you tell a guy? So either way, most of the time when I'm there, I'm there at really quiet times during the day while everyone's at work and my kids are at school. So I have the gym to myself. So I'm usually on the auto belay. Um, so it just catches itself. But if there's someone there that will do like a top rope belay for me, I've done that as well. Do you remember the, how long did it take you to get to the top of that?

How many times did you go to the gym before you got to the top? My first try. No shit. That must have been... I like to climb, but you know what the biggest thing for me was the first time I climbed it was being able to let go to come down. The first time I climbed it, I climbed back down as well because I was like, I can't just let go. I'm going to fall. It took me a while to trust the rope in the harness. Uh, yeah.

It is your core must be just on fire that you never get to put your legs down. Yeah. Um, it's a question I often get is like, what do I do for core strength? Um, and it's one of those like, I don't know, I use it for everything, you know, like for balance for everything I do. I don't really like sit and do core specific exercises. Yeah. That's so interesting that people say that, you know, if you're wondering how hard it

is, how much core you use, there was this workout I used to do as a young man where I would do a GHD sit-ups and muscle ups. And you have no, until you mix those two, you have no idea how much you use your core on a muscle up. It's like, like your core just vanishes because you did the GHD sit-ups. I mean, you're using your core for everything or even trying to do a pegboard without your feet. Like, you know, in the games they always, they look so weird and unathletic.

And they use their feet like a spider, like they're climbing the wall. The reason why they do that is they don't have the core strength to do it like this without their feet. But if you try that a few times, I mean, like the wrestlers do, it's nuts. I mean, when I see you climbing that wall, all I think about the whole time is your core because I see your legs dangling like that. Like, holy fuck, her core must be working its ass off.

Or like for a rope climb, you know, like it's I try and swing as like do as much of a side crunch to get a higher reach. So it's less balls, you know, like little kips. Yeah. Um, man, have you fallen from a rope? No. No? And when you say that you're afraid your femur break, meaning you would come down,

oh my God, yeah, that's crazy. I fully trust the rope because the grip is in my hands, right? The pegboard is the one that I get a little fearful of the peg slipping out. I don't trust that as much. Like you didn't put it in all the way And it like yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I know that feeling. Hey, is that a weight vest you have on too? Yes Man you really have no limits It's been I would say probably for the past, I don't know, six months, a year, I don't necessarily follow any specific programming anymore.

And it's more like I try and come up with fun things to try that just sound like fun for me. They would never make you do this in the games though, right? They're way too stupid. Absolutely not. No. Yeah. That would be, you're doing. And, but it's stuff that I enjoy doing, you know, like I, I like doing bar muscle ups, they never have us do a bar.

They'll have us do ring muscle ups. They don't have us do bar muscle ups. Um, and some of that is a function thing because like for a seated athlete, I do have a lot lower core function than some people do. And so like, I can do a bar muscle if I can't do it properly because without hip function, I can't do it without a terrible chicken wing. But I do it anyways, because I enjoy the feeling of it. But yeah, it's things like that. They'll never, will never be programmed. But I don't care because it's

fun for me. If you it's mostly me just playing around. Yeah, I mean, it's cool. I mean, it's cool. It's it's crazy inspirational. Hey, if if you broke your leg, would you feel it? No. Um, so I would not feel it, but I would, the muscles typically kick in and spasm if there's any type of like active injury going on. Um, so I would imagine that it would spasm real bad for me. God, I respect your false grip. It's almost as good as mine. I have the best false grip in CrossFit. Man, that's such a nice false grip. Don't you love that false grip?

It's so sad that athletes don't use that anymore. They just do this shit. Right. False grip's so nice and you get like that little, that little, pocket. And you get that little rub there that kind of hurts. It's like you're gonna go for the next couple days. You're like, yeah.

I did that. Yeah, look at your, look at your forearms crazy tell me what does the programming look like what what what will they have you do what's kind of things they do for you guys challenges um like what are you expecting uh probably a lot of just standard CrossFit workouts to be honest. They've released a couple of the workouts where, you know, endurance one where we've got all the machine work. And then we've got like pull ups and clean and press, I think, um, it'll be barbell.

One, I think they just released has barbell snatching. Um, where do you, how do you do that? You take it off your lap or you take it off the ground, off your lap. Off the lap. Well, you'll cycle it, cycle it from your lap. So they like you take it from the ground to your lap and then cycle it from your lap.

Do, do you guys do, do any of the wheelchair people do anything off the ground to overhead? Without stopping at the lap? No. Yeah. Would they ever have you just do dumbbell, like touch the ground and lean over and do that or? With the dumbbell from the side, yes. Yeah. But I think that also becomes one of those, depending on how the divisions are split. If you're a higher up with that, as soon as you get higher up, you lose some of the lower

core function to be able to do directly from the floor. What about 16 single arm dumbbell snatches? Oh, so are those off the ground or those off your lap? Those are typically off the lap. And what are the U-turns? Um, so that's usually like it's around the edge of a box. So you'll come up next to a box and then back up, do a spin around and then come to the other side of the box.

And how is that a technical move that you have to like practice and get really proficient at is that a transition? um It's a I would say like it's I don't practice it at all. Um, it But I'm also 20 plus years in a chair I think it's just standard like being able to maneuver your chair, right. That doesn't make you dizzy. Can I see one of those Caleb? That doesn't make you sick. That sounds like, like I don't need, I wouldn't, I don't even go on rides at the amusement park. That sounds like it would be horrible. No, no.

Hey, why don't they have racing? Do they have racing? Is falling out of your wheelchair date too dangerous to, um, is it dangerous? Can't they just put helmets on you and have you guys race to you we have we've got part of our endurance has wheeling as a 1200 meter wheel on one wheel you have to go 1200 meters oh on one wheel well i mean oh but i mean on two wheels do you have to pull the front wheel do we have to to hold a wheelie? No, but we, they often have, um, like shuttle wheels in a wheelie. You have a 1200 meter race in your event? Um, our first event is a 1500 meter row, 1500 meter ski, 1200 meter wheel. And, and so you'll, how do you do that? Are you guys on a track? I think we might be at one of the days we're out at an outdoor facility.

Um, I'd like to see that. Wait, do they have, so do they have wheelchair, just straight wheelchair racing, like wheelchairs on a 400 meter track and do just go, God, I've never seen that. Um, like in the Paralympics, they do it. So they're, they're specific chairs that are built more like a hand cycle. Like there's two wheels with one wheel out in front and you're actually like sitting like up on your knees leaning forward as you wheel. Are you good at that?

I've never done it. No, but I just mean at the 1200 meter thing when you have to race in your chair for 1200 meters, are you good at that? I think I'm fairly proficient at it. I've got good endurance, I think. So anything that is cardio is kind of up my alley. Is there contact in that, Andrea? No, we're not allowed to. Oh, interesting. I saw that at the bottom note. We are not not allowed to purposefully Okay, but it but there could be incidental content

I could be going and someone slows down around a turn slower than you and you hit them like fuck Yeah, as long as it's not intentional. I think that they probably will give a pass on it Do you see someone fall out of a chair every day every year at the games? Oh Sure. Yeah God that that would it's kind of like going to a car race, right? Everyone's watching the cars go around, but kind of everyone's a little excited for a car crash. That's kind of like what you'd kind of hope. And like, you know what I mean? Like in basketball wheelchair, I mean,

that's got to be the coolest thing when the guy falls out and then he's got to jump back in. But have you ever watched basketball wheelchair? They get pop right back up. I'm getting real good at it. Do you know the only sport that I've actually ever watched basketball wheelchair? They get pop right back up. I get really good at it. Do you know the only sport that I've actually ever watched the entire, um, uh, only wheelchair event where I've actually watched and like been mesmerized and watch the whole thing is one time I was waiting for a tennis match to start and on TV like Wimbledon or something and I saw wheelchair tennis.

Yeah, that's fucking insane. They're fast. They are fast. And the two bounce thing, like you would think that makes it easier. That does not make things easier. That's a that I mean, just the time because your brain has to do more computations, right? Because the ball's bouncing twice. Yeah, it is nuts. Have you ever played tennis?

No. That looks yeah, that's pretty impressive. I would, I would put that up. It looks as impressive as like the guys who don't play in wheelchairs. Right. Yeah. It's, I just thought it was like a legitimate, like it looked legitimate, but I've never seen any other high level wheelchair stuff other than CrossFit.

Paralympics are going on right now. Where do you watch those? ESPN? Yeah. do you watch those? ESPN? Yeah. Do you watch them? I'll watch certain events. What's your favorite?

Well, soon to be climbing, once they include it. You're gonna make that? It's a long-term goal, yeah. Do you know who the best in the country is? I have no idea. It is so new to me. Like, um, I was going to go to the, my first comp last year. They're like, I guess it was the start of this year.

Um, I was interested in just going to a comp to check it out, but it was the same time as, um, I did the live open workout this year and I had to be in Denver for the live open so I couldn't do both. What do you eat? Are you on a crazy strict diet? Because you look lean as fuck. I mean your strength to weight ratio looks insane. I am not on any diet whatsoever. That being said, I mean, I eat a lot of protein. Like steak? Steak, chicken, pork, egg whites, and fruit.

Do you eat cottage cheese? Yeah. A lot of cottage cheese? Do you eat any dairy? Yeah. A lot of cottage cheese, yeah. Dang. All right. Well, I'm excited to see you compete. Thanks for coming on here and let me pick your brain for 90 minutes.

Yeah. I'm impressed I could last this long. Oh, you did great. Fuck. I know you have a million stories. Man, what a cool life you lived. And you got I know you have a million stories, man. What a what a cool cool life you live. Yeah. And hey, and thanks for being such a good mom. We need we need great kids out there. Yeah, thank you for having a bunch of adaptive

athletes on my pleasure. Yeah, my pleasure. It's great. It's great. I'm having fun. I'm even I'm even got like, I hate leaving the house. I'm probably a lot like you, which is kind of weird because I do this show, but I don't want to leave the house. I don't want to leave my kids. I want to stay in my own little bubble, but I know I would have a blast if I went there, especially like if I could just hang out and just watch and cheer. You'd love it.

Yeah. Hey, and congratulations on having a great team. You guys have a great team. Kevin Ogars, what a great leader. Absolutely. Yeah. Keeps it fun. Yeah. Hey and congratulations on having a great team. You guys have a great team. Kevin Ogars, what a great leader. Absolutely, yeah. Keeps it fun. Yeah. Alright, dear. Thanks for coming on. Hope to run into you again and we'll be watching. Yeah, thank you so much. Okay, ciao. Bye. Andrew Wilson. I couldn't find a video of anybody doing fucking U-turns. I know I've seen Jedidiah do it, but I couldn't see it on his. This is going to be such a dickhead thing to say, but it is what it is.

She might be the most, for sure out of the adaptive athletes, she's the most professional that we've interviewed, but she might be one of the most like, I don't remember what she said about how like having to go into a nurse's office and having to prove herself because people see a wheelchair and like pass judgment, like she might not be competent or capable. But when I see, when I talk to her as an athlete,

I'm like, yeah, this is a professional athlete. Like she just got professional athlete vibe and social skills. She just seems like a like a pro. Yeah, I agree. So I give her so all anyone else sorry if you've been on the show and I'm not saying you don't seem like a pro. I'm just saying she now has like she oozes like hey I'm strictly for I'm not fucking around. You know I mean like she's not doing she's not having a glass of wine at night Yeah

Tim are you like I don't have a glass of wine at night. He's watching the show right now. Fuck you Told you I've been I've drinking for years. I know I'm just saying Maybe I'm just a sucker for the core She's a crazy body dude, yeah, let's look at what let's look at some of her videos Did you look let's look at the pegboard one is crazy. That's how I do the pegboard Me and her probably the two best pegboarders in CrossFit Just because you don't use your legs. Yeah, I'm a beast Even though I haven't done one in fucking a year

Even though I haven't done one in fucking a year. Dude, that is... That requires so much fucking core strength. Yeah, that's insane. Listen, anyone who's watching this and you think you're a good pegboarder, do one of these up and down. And I promise you, in the morning your stomach will be sore. The Sevan has the same leg strength as Andrea. And you're the best at getting pegged Jesus criminy wow I excel I'm sweating like a pig

oh shit I might I'm trying to get Facundo on I might be able to get Facundo. Oh, this is awesome Do you remember Facundo the I don't know what he he's a manager coach confidant Yeah, I remember the though mayhem's Mayhem's poster child for per fastidious cleanliness. DEI? Is Facundo DEI hired? That's the first thing I'm going to ask him. Are you DEI hired at Mayhem?

Politician? Monday 9 a.m. or Tuesday at 10? He's like a real adult. What is it oh today's Monday no I can't do Monday oh so tomorrow at 10 a.m. God tomorrow is gonna be fucking crazy yes yes tomorrow 10 a.m. I have a fucking I have a really a meeting I'm really excited about tomorrow 10 a.m. standard time I have a meeting I don't really do meetings I have a meeting on Tuesday okay with the with the

Okay. With the, with the, um, I don't, I don't know if I should say with who, but, but it's an important meeting, but it's also at this place called Britannia, Britannia Arms, Britannia, Britannia, Britannia Arms. And it's right on the beach and they have the craziest margaritas. I hope this person knows that I'm going to the meeting to get fucking smashed. I'm really just in it for the spicy. That's right he goes hey we've been texting and I was like hey why don't we just meet up and talk in person? He says, OK, what's your favorite lunch spot?

And the place is a shithole. Their food is horrible. It's like fish and chips. You know what I mean? Yeah, OK. Yeah. But it's right on the in the patio is just I mean, everyone who works there's English. It's just a shitty English dive bar.

But they have a patio and. God, it's so funny and the patio is right next to the you froze Caleb. Can you hear me? Oh and the patio Caleb if you ever come here, we'll go there every single day the patio The patio is a hundred less than a hundred yards from the Pacific Ocean, but in between the hundred yards from the Pacific Ocean. But in between the patio and the ocean is the public restrooms for the and then the showers and their outdoor shower. So the whole time you're sitting there, there's every fucking kind of there's the

hottest people and the ugliest people in the world just show in there and it's in dogs running around and like the parents roll up on the electric bikes with five kids in the back and it falls over. I mean, it's just a fucking sounds like some of the best people watching dude. It's a shit show. That's so good. It is so fucking great No, it's not in monterey. It's just it's just right down the street from my house And I I don't even know if I should say yeah bangers and mash Yeah, like if you order anything there with bacon, you're fucked. I saw a lady there order something with bacon

Because english people don't eat bacon. They got something order anything there with bacon, you're fucked. I saw a lady there order something with bacon because English people don't eat bacon. They got something, it's fucking a slice of ham, burnt slice of ham they eat. Yeah. And so this fucking lady orders it and it comes to the table and she's pissed and she starts fucking going off on the waitress

and the waitress is awesome, dude. And the waitress is like this like 65 year old all the waitresses there. God. I don't know if I should say this No one listens to this podcast really, right? No I Shouldn't say but the waitresses are great. I love the waitresses and they've all been there. You know, they all look like they've been there 20 years, right? And the waitress is like it says right here, not underneath underneath the menu, not American bacon. And soon as it says that it's like, bitch, this lady wants her fucking money back.

And the waitress is being cool, but it's like, I don't know, dude, it's a business and they're trying to stay in business and it says right on there, not American bacon. It says like ham or whatever. Like, you know what I mean? Canadian bacon. Yeah. Anyway. Hi, Lisa. Good to see you. I'm really disappointed in Equip products. They didn't do their obligatory $10 donation for a when we have an adaptive athlete on. Yeah, where are they at? Where are you at Equip products? Probably building wheelchairs or whatever. Seller of jump ropes that don't actually go underneath you.

Equip products where you can get two jump ropes for the price of one. They're only this long and you don't actually jump over anything. Oh, my wife is going to be there's so much shit going on tomorrow So if a condo says he can do oh, I meant Monday September 9th, but I will arrange for tomorrow Okay Sweet oh You're such a good dude. Let me see. Are we gonna get crazy? Though you're asking are we gonna get crazy?

See you tomorrow. Yeah, are we going to get crazy? Because dude, you know, he has insights into what's going on with. Oh, there it is. Holy shit. Better late than never. Beg, ask and you shall receive. I'm a Christian

Oh my goodness, I fucking love you guys equip products Sponsor for the I don't know if this is true sponsor for the 2024 adaptive games in San Antonio September 19th to the 22nd. I Will be there so that's I don't know I can't say that there's no fucking way I'm gonna be in Newport Beach partying when is the NorCal classic is Not this week or next week Not this week or next week What's today September 2nd, yeah, I got a pack start packing up my camera gear in the next day or two here

Yeah, looks like it's Thursday to Her Friday to Sunday. Yeah, I'm going Thursday morning. I'm eating Colton and Taylor. Oh shit Taylor comes to my house tomorrow Taylor and Lizzie, that's crazy. You better clean the house. It's clean. Yeah, it's clean. I mean it's clean for our standards You gotta wash the sheets though Make sure you hide all your butt plugs from Taylor. Just give my old ones. Okay, so from the fifth to the ninth. And then God, I guess I could go to San Antonio from the 19th to the 22nd.

I guess I don't have to go for the whole thing. I could go for the finals. Oh, we're going to the 22nd. I guess I don't have to go for the whole thing. I could go for the finals. Oh we're going to the airport. Hmm. And then and then I'm going to Newport Beach to hang out with Sarah. Oh I wonder if we got someone to watch the dog. Do we have a dog sitter for Newport? Welcome to the housekeeping part of the show or we go through seven's calendar and I can't fucking believe these text messages I'm reading. I just can't fucking believe the shit people send me. You just can't believe that they send it to you or you just can't believe the what is

being said in the text. What is being said in the time what is being said? So being a famous guy or Super hot chick like you don't live in the same reality like super hot chicks don't live in the same reality as other people right like I'm 52 and like I finally like met like like I know like I know this girl who's like super hot and It's I mean super like you know what I mean like like dudes are just like I Can't really fucking you you know what I mean like just throw themselves at her Not even that they like they don't even you don't even know what to do. It's like

But like now she's been sharing just stories with me of just like what the world's like for her. It's just crazy. It's not just like but but but she also knows she's super hot. I guess they're like it just it's like Jedidiah this might make sense to you like maybe only you and I can understand this Jedidiah Nelson but it's like having a handicap placard like parking is like So different for me than the rest of you guys Like I always have options like yesterday I went to the beach and there's a handicap spot open

Right there and then there was a spot and the parking lot holds like a thousand cars and there were only 200 cars in it so I can be like I can go park right in the front in the handicapped spot or I could park like 30 feet back and leave it open for someone else who actually is handicapped So I chose I did the right thing. I took the non handicapped spot But I have options that like you like you don't even know like you show up somewhere Like you know what I mean? You show up somewhere and there you see a handicapped spot and it's like not even an option for you for me always an option sure

See what you're saying so like I can show up to you know like there'll be some street They close off in your town and there'll be like a 4th of July parade there and like everyone else is driving around like an Asshole looking for a parking spot for an hour for a 15-minute parade Not me not Jedidiah Just there's always a spot for you, it's crazy Unless I parked in it then there's then there then Jedidiah then there's not a spot for you But you know what I'm talking about and then I come to the park Come into the park now you wouldn't know park. Now you wouldn't know it was me.

You wouldn't know it was me. One time this guy, this one handicapped spot, I always park in by the beach. The guy who runs the liquor store there, I park there and I go in and he's like, hey just so you know. I go, yeah they're like, someone came in here and reported you to us. I'm like, what? They said a guy who doesn't look like he's handicapped parked in a handicapped spot I'm like they reported to you guys at the fucking liquor store. You know what I mean? Oh my goodness Uh, well this confirms that savvan indeed is retarded. Well, that's better than an asshole.

I think Jedidiah puts me in the asshole camp. Why do you think he has a handicap sticker? Yeah. Oh my goodness. You have a handicap spot because you're a dwarf. I'm going to edit that for you. You're not allowed to say midget. Did you see, um, I, I saw this video yesterday, um, about, you know, the guy, the kill Tony guy, Tony Hinchcliffe. Yeah. I saw a video in 2021 where he said the word chink and he got supposedly like canceled for it. He thinks he got

canceled. I think he wants to, I think it's so weird how people use the word canceled. They think they were canceled. Yes. Yeah. Like they think that they're being serious. Like some people think they were canceled and like you weren't really canceled. I don't know if I would say that this guy really got candy content. I mean, but it was interesting. He used the word chink in a stand-up routine. He called another comedian a chink. The other comedian then, I didn't watch the whole video, but basically it was during Asian hate. And it was so funny because Tony Hinchcliffe said it was during Asian hate when homeless people in LA were beating Chinese people. And I'm like, no, it wasn't homeless people. It was black people. And they're still beating Chinese people.

Have you ever seen a white person in an Asian hate video? I've never seen any of those videos. Oh, there's not, it's always a black, like, cause they're afraid to say it. Do you know what I mean? Cause then that would be racist to say, like, isn't it the irony is, is that it's a Chinese person getting beaten and they're calling it Asian hate.

So there it's okay to denote someone to be racist, right? Or I don't mean racist in a negative term. I mean, just to assess something by, I don't mean racist in a negative way. Hey, if, do you know what I mean by that? Like when you use racist, like, and it's not, it's like, you're just judging. Like if I said black people are more adapted to the sun than white people, I'm being racist, but, but it's science. Okay.

I just, yeah, I just, I'm saying, okay. I thought racism was, it is, but don't ruin my story. Okay. Okay. Yep You get you get what I'm saying though. I'm making sense logically Okay, but if you say but if you say that Chinese people are Being hated by because they're Chinese But for some reason the race and it's racist because they're Chinese But then you would be racist if you pointed out that it's just black people beating them Hmm because they're Chinese, but then you would be racist if you pointed out that it's just black people beating them. Hmm.

Oh no, Sevan, it's not just black people. Okay, 99.9%. It's like all Uber drivers in LA are Armenian. Okay, I had one that wasn't. Okay, well he was Lebanese. He was close enough. Basically same. Yeah. So if you just type... I'm gonna go to... Let me see. I'm gonna type in Asian hate crime. And then I'm gonna go to the

Asian videos. Okay, I'm gonna pull this one up right here. Can you hear that when I play that? Uh, it was like a whooshing sound. That was it. Oh, okay. Here, here's a, I'm going to, I'm going to look, we'll look at this Asian hate. It's the first video on YouTube that pops up. It's an Asian hate video. I

Actually can't tell if it's oh, yeah. Yeah, it's black people But black is a skin color and Asians a race ethnicity So funny our nation's a race Asian hate I guess I don't even know what a race is. I heard this thing the other day that there's more genetic diversity and black people than there is in the difference between then there is in the difference between white people and black people and the example that was given is is that the shortest human beings in the world are on the African continent and they're black and the tallest people in in the world are on the African continent and they're black and the tallest people in the world are on the African continent and they're black. So to say race is just like a complete

just like means nothing. I was like, well, okay, I buy that. Yeah, like all of a sudden it's just like, I mean, I get what ethnicity is and nationality. Nationality is the easiest one to get your head wrapped around, right? That just like, like we used to be a nation before our borders opened up. Now we're used to be American. I don't know fucking know what we are. Yeah, compare a Nigerian to a Congan. Yeah, Nigerians go to medical school, Congans, uh, fucking, uh, get kids to fight in wars when they're 12. I totally know the difference. Right? I mean, just generally speaking. Sure.

I'm not saying you can't be a Nigerian and go to war or your Congin can't be a fucking doctor but I'm just saying Nigerians come here and become doctors and lawyers. I got a giant Nigerian friend in town. Black as night, six foot five, fucking man of steel. He's a little older than me. Every time he sees me, he hugs me, I feel like I vanish inside of him. You know what I mean? That's terrifying.

I see him once a week at the coffee shop. I think his, uh, I don't know if I should say, his daughter, wow, I think his daughter got a...is Cornell in New York? Yes. His daughter is a straight A student and got a full ride scholarship to Cornell. Ithaca, New York. Yeah, that's where it's at. Yeah. Yeah, I bet you Elle's Nigerian. I would not be surprised.

Oh, Cornell's in New Hampshire? No, I think there's multiple Cornell's. The main, the actual like legit Cornell is Ithaca. Yeah, I think he, I think she went to oops Dartmouth Dartmouth Someone posted I thought I thought Saxon would have been a virtue signaller in the comments. I took a screenshot of it and I sent it to Saxon and I said, this is the meanest thing I've ever seen on the internet. Dude, Scott and Spencer and Saxon and the Panchicck parents dude, they're fucking salt of the earth homies Those are hard-working fucking Americans. They're like if Nigerians were white that would be them

Okay, yeah, you know what I mean, they're like raised kids family get married once kind of people Yeah, I can see that. Our thumbnail so weird that doesn't even look like Angelo. No, it doesn't. That's like Angelo, like 10 years ago. Angelo now is like a fucking. Rugged. Elk elk hunting firefighting stud. Yeah, there he looks like he's getting his MBA.

Yeah, it's like LinkedIn Angelo. How about this? Someone just sent me this. All I want for Christmas is for Beth to spend one day with Kamala. That'd be pretty crazy. Yeah, you like that? White Nigerians, that's what they are basically. The pan chicks are just white Nigerians. Or Nigerians or black pan chicks. I don't care.

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Do not click the QR code. Like that's the, that's the most promoting I've done from since they've been a sponsor. They're not even a sponsor anymore. Did anyone did anyone buy any FID-8? How could you? I would buy anything that was 40% off. I'd buy dick. Would you really? I don't know probably not. That might be a stretch, huh? Fid-A tastes like drinking Draino. Are you kidding me? I love drinking it. But I like things that I don't like like black licorice. You don't like black licorice? I don't like it either, but if I see it, I got to eat it.

Do you know what are those plants called? Anise, fentanyl plants, fentanyl. Do you know what fentanyl or anises? No, I've never heard of that. We have them all over California. They're weird. It's a weird plant. I wonder if it's a succulent, but it's like this like,

but anyway, whenever, as a kid, I'd always, if I saw it, like if I was running through a field and I I saw it I would stop and rip off a chunk and eat it. Fentanyl plants, no, fennel. That? No, look up anise or anise. That's how I looked up. Let me see. Anise?

Fennel, fennel is gross No, it's none of those try again and the bottle What's it called the butthole plant? Oh, no but whole plant oh You guys think? Fennel's gross. I like things. I like things. I don't like yeah, you know what I mean looks like a fucking green onion Like I'll tell you what's to like putting in nine of the nine volt battery on your tongue. That's oh, yeah, that's it You don't normally see the root though down there at the bottom. I don't that thing's usually underground

Okay Yeah, it's such is, is that a succulent? Fennel is a large attractive plant with soft leathery leaves and tall, I don't even know if it has leaves. I don't even remember seeing leaves on it. Fat clusters of tiny yellow flowers. Funiculum vulgari, vulgare.

Jesus. Yes, I want all videos. Sevan, I'm editing videos 11 and 12. Don't need to enter them into the contest, but do you still want them? Yes, I want everything. Send them to me. I will send you money. Did we get the second five yet? What about 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10? I don't even remember those.

Let me see. God, poor Suza. There's so much shit falling on his plate. I don't even remember those let me see god poor Sousa there's so much shit falling on his plate there's one oh my god there's so many fucking affiliate videos piling in here Pedro made one I just assume it says this video is 30 seconds long. The intro is five seconds. That means it's a 26 second video. 24 second video as my math. Sure. When you're out here on the outside, it's just me and my wife and it's just me and her. And we work 24-7 because we were retired and to be around people, it's that sense of community,

belonging and belonging to Salty High has been enriching to us and that's why we keep coming back because we not only go there, it's good people, good times, and we enjoy doing the exercise and enjoy the company. Voice by Brett Hoffer? What do you mean voice by Brett Hoffer? Brett, that wasn't your voice. What the fuck? That was that is that you Brett? You're that old guy. Oh, I have to meet you for one second. Adam Blake, he'd like to have Shadigan. You'd like me to have a Shadigan video contest with myself. I don't really know what that means. I missed the call. But I'm definitely not doing that.

I think I might just bulldoze it. The more I think about what I'm going to do with the house, I think I'm just going to start bulldozing it. No shit. Yeah. So time in the camper has given you time to reflect. Kind of just the we knew that the thing was had some pretty significant issues and then over the past like since it's almost been a year since we bought it and we've been through

all the seasons and we're noticing that there's like way more wrong with it, like foundation and the roof. I could have told you that I could have told you that. Well, yeah, we just like I'm not. And you know, wrong with it. Just something happened in the motorhome. Yeah, no. When you think of foundation issues, you think of like, oh, there's like a crack in the foundation or like whatever. Or maybe the house is like slid off a little and you got to like, yeah, I'm talking like the slab is cracked in half and water's coming up through

underneath it into the main part of the house. Like there's no crawl space. There's no underside to the building. It's just dirt. So under this concrete slab, water's getting in and then just like coming through the cracks in the, in the foundation. So there's that. And then obviously roof, the roof leaks and shit like that. If this makes you feel any better, I bought a 500 square foot home on a 600 square foot lot for $500,000.

The house walls were one by six fencing with a piece of sheet rock on either side of the fencing. The house was built on, you know those things you get at Home Depot? Those cement cinder blocks? Not cinder. It's like it's a piece of cement with like a piece of wood on it. Yeah. Someone will say what it's called here in a second. But like you can just buy them at Home Depot for I don't know 10 bucks or 20 bucks And then you could build like a like a deck on them. Yeah, but are the footers? Yeah, and it's built and it's built like on 10 footers or 12 footers You know what I mean? Like three three four four four and that was the fucking house And I paid five hundred thousand dollars for it. That's crazy. Yeah, I think I got a better deal

Yeah, you could take a screwdriver and just puncture it through the house That's terrifying. Dude. Yeah, and the house is no like in 1917 Yes, I think we're gonna do your screaming yeah, I heard somebody yell Nerf war they're having nerf wars outside. So I got shot in the eye Yeah, so I think we're gonna just Get rid of the whole thing There's like electrical that's really bad like none of it's connected properly none of it's

Makes really any sense as to like where any of it runs Because you just have stuff just hooked up in random places. Like you have one wall that's divided into there's two different Breaker boxes and one wall is split up between two different breaker boxes. So it like just doesn't make any sense I thought your mom paid 500k for it. You know what's funny is someone made a comment the other day in my Instagram like that. They made a whole list like it was um it was she didn't pay a dime for it but um someone made a list of all the things like that I've ever said that my mom's done for me basically with being passive aggressive saying I was privileged Oh and It was it was fascinating

You know my dad took my dad's told me like three times in the last five years that I'm just lucky Like we know yeah, yeah that the way my life that I'm just lucky. Like I told you that. Yeah. Yeah. That the way my life turned out is just lucky. And. Whatever you guys, whatever you guys think of me, like it's funny because I don't think of it until I until I meet other people. But. I'm either

Fucking completely retarded or have a thousand times the balls of Any 100 of this the baddest man you've ever known on the planet and I'll give you an example When I went to malawi I would fucking in my days off that I wasn't fucking At a fucking garbage dump, uh filming kids getting vitamin, I would fucking in my days off that I wasn't fucking at a fucking garbage dump filming kids getting vitamin A, I would walk barefoot into a village with no running water and no electricity that hasn't seen a fucking white man ever and go hang out there by myself

with no one I had ever met before. And I fucking, and that's like nothing compared to what I've done with my life and how hard I've worked. And I promise you, one out of a compared to what I've done with my life and how hard I've worked and I promise you One out of a billion of you would not fucking do that. But for me it was like nothing So that's the thing. It's not like i'm brave and i'm like i'm going into the fucking black village i'm just made for that but like

uh Um like to think that I had an and the only privilege I had is my parents loved me Like love this shit out of me my whole fucking extended family fuck I got so much love but it almost fucking killed me I mean I was also fucking you know I mean given a box of Ritz crackers and remote control to a TV and that's where I lived People from the other room shouted I love you People from the other room shouted, I love you. But don't be fucking, don't be, don't get crazy.

Don't make me have to fucking, what's it called? A CV? What do they call it a CV? Like a resume? Yeah. I don't know why they call it that. Yeah, don't make me, don't make me, uh, Pedro questions. Don't make me have to fucking give you my fucking CV Whatever the fuck that is Yeah, I do have a charm life curriculum VT I do have a charm life I chose to believe that It is an itemized list of a person's entire education publications accomplishments notable projects blah blah blah blah curriculum vitae. Yeah. All right

Yeah, don't make me don't make me Oh career verification Don't make me show you my curriculum vitae vitae. Of course Paulina knows that she's got a long curriculum vitae You jackasses I Can't believe we had Angelo and Saxon on yesterday. What a great podcast That is not something I ever expected to happen ever. No me neither Pretty cool. I went to I went I went to the beach two days in a row and didn't drink because I had nighttime podcasts Wow, that's fucking discipline

You start having more nighttime podcasts. I don't know But tuesday tuesday i'm going to do that podcast with fecundo And then i'm going to a business meeting at the britannia arms by the by the beach showers Britannia Arms by the beach showers. This meeting. That's how Reddit thread starts. So you know someone has business meetings by a beach shower. Pervert.

He does it on purpose. Yeah. So you can just get drunk and laugh at people. Uh, part of that. Yeah. But that's all accurate. They just make it seem like it's a bad thing I mean dude the shit you see you see like you'll see like some fucking character come up with their fucking dog You know what I mean?

Like it'll be like the fattest fucking white dude you've ever seen with the cutoff sleeves with the American flag on the shirt And it's a triple X But his guts still hanging out and he's walking three Labradors that like he should be beaten for how fat he's let these dogs go and as he walks by He sweeps fucking someone's like brand new some like 13 year old girls brand new surfboard You know what I mean? And she's like trying to shower and the surfboard falls down and bangs and he's like you shouldn't have put your surfboard there And it's just it's just Americana chaos hi I heard you crying you got fucked up oh the back dude

you got a bike down and just take that you you got shot in the back and now you want me to buy you a gun that hurts the other kids what's it called he wants a gel blaster gel so you got hurt this is like an arms race you know that's the problem with the world you know that right like each person wants to up the ante and just get bigger and bigger Yeah, he just came in the fucking you know, I'm doing a show right now It's a seven-year-old's arms First it starts with rubber bands and then somebody adds a hornet to the rubber band

Then somebody gets a nerf gun and Somebody wants a gel blaster. Yeah, can you look up a gel blaster and see what one looks like for me? Yeah No, you're good. You don't need to see Don't call me a dude. Can you one more on the air, please? Okay. Sorry I mean you can call me out later, but You know the rules for... It's a fucking Glock, dude! That's really what he wants? It's a fucking cheese-pull!

No, no, no, it's not. There's a different one. I just want to find the one that looks like the most like a gun. How do I... Oh, extra camera. Are you dressed? No, I'm not dressed. No, you're fine. So what happened? Oh, I...

Avi was going around with his gun, testing it to shoot and then he shot Joe in the neck. He started crying and I heard it. I went over with Jack. I tried to shoot and then he shot Joe in the neck. He started crying and I heard it. I went over to check. I tried to shoot, I shot him. I mean, I fired the gun. It literally by an inch, it missed him. And then he shot me in the back and then the leg was like bam bam.

So your brother got shot and was crying. You went over to protect him and then you got blasted. Sounds about right. No, he doesn't. He's the one that's supposed to get blasted. Hey, is the gel blaster, they're like bubbles? They're like water? Do you soak the bullets in water? I think.

It's like a bigger version of an orby gun Or begun you do it or be guns are I know how do you even know this stuff? I can't believe you know what orbeez are How do you know it? How do you know that stuff? I've never even heard that word. How would you know that? Yeah, where did you see that? Oh see that? Um, oh be careful. The first time I saw an Orbeez was um, I kinda, Niko bought it for my birthday. Oh. But then something happened and then I probably threw it away. Yeah I probably did throw it away. All right, are you okay now? Isn't it fun kind of getting shot in the back and it stings a little bit? No, I started crying I know but isn't that kind of fun? No, I wanted a

Do you have a welt on your back? I? Had I know turn around let me see lift up your shirt. Let me see turn No, no, just just right there move that yeah, let me see lift up your back. I Don't see anything yeah exactly but but I got shot many times Lisa shot all in the head in the belly please don't shoot him in the head are you guys wearing oh I almost forgot to put on my glasses all right you're dismissed hey um I was gonna ask you oh when someone called just listen be a good child and just listen to the adults talk now um Caleb

when someone calls you do you um and um, and you're going to call them back. Do you say, can I call you back? Or do you say, I'll call you back. Can I usually ask if it's okay to call them back? Yeah. Oh, just like being nice. If someone said, if someone says that to me, can I call you back? I usually just don't respond.

Well, I don't know why, because I'm just being a dick. I'm just a dick like that. I mean, can you call me back? I just called you motherfucker. Why couldn't you call me back? Oh, OK, I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess that's just my probably like my OCD, just my like.

You just act like a thief right there. I. You act angry, you acted so angry. You acted like you're about to smack us up or something. I forgot you were even there. What? Yeah, I was just talking to Caleb. I was looking across the screen at Caleb. Can you even remember five seconds that I was here?

No. Do I have a good memory? No, but don't take this seriously. You're old, so it doesn't really matter. Do you know your own birthday? Yes. When's your birthday? November 22nd. Did you? You? I knew, I know that you and your brother are either the 20th and the 21st or the 21st and the 22nd. I know one of you was born a day before the other. I always get it confused.

I'll probably remember forever now. You're November 22nd, your brother's November 21st. Yes. I don't think it has brothers. We're twins. Yeah. How old are you? Seven.

Joey's only like five hours older than me right now. Yeah. Who's cooler out of the two of you? Wait, out of Joey and I? Yeah. Wait, out of joy, yeah. Joey's actually really brave by talking smack to people. He really I know he is brave. He does talk some shit to people, which is crazy.

He stands up for himself, right? Yeah. So he's like, so he's like, he was talking smack to Dylan and Drake when they were doing naughty stuff. Yeah good He was like he was like me me. He was like starting getting aggressive. Yeah, so Probably the coolest I like that. I like that when he stands up for himself I was actually yelling at Dylan because we were a little he's like We're gonna do another new floor my mom and mom said time out for the nerf wars. I'm like, no, no we're not gonna do another for and then

He shot a gun and I got really pissed and he shot the gun brung it inside and just and I'm like Peek pick up the bullets pick up the bullets He probably he lost on it, too He got some in the bushes. I want to get to the part of this story where he stands up for himself, where he tells some other kid to shut the fuck up or something like that. They do that. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, This was a story that Joey is a boss and bosses like like stand up. Let me tell you a story where Joey stood up.

No, no, no, no, no. This one time you were crying and some other kids like stop crying. And Joey said to the kid, what do you mean? The kid said, you stop crying. It doesn't hurt. And Joey said, how do you know you're not in his body? I was like, damn, Joey's coming and standing up for his brother. That was really cool when he stood up for you like that. Okay.

You tell me a time Joey stood up for someone. Oh He just stood up for himself. So here we go Take two try to keep the story concise Here we go, I think this is true I don't really I'm not really sure you said here we go twice Stop bringing my stories. Okay go You're still learning how to talk I know you're seven you only been seven years of experience Go tell me the story did tell me the story of a job Joey stood up for you No forms out. He basically stood for Avi

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Didn't want this to turn into romper I'm already fucked up what yes, you're a good show. Thank you Shoo Dick butter said cool story, bro That's about as mean as you better be to my kids Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I guess I don't have anyone scheduled tomorrow. I'll be on in the morning tomorrow morning. I got so much fucking Kamala Harris stuff I want to talk about. So we'll come on tomorrow morning and then Caleb will be at his special top secret school. I'll be here.

Oh, you get tomorrow. Okay. And then we have, and then so we'll do a little show in the morning where we asked pound, Kent, Kamala, and then, um, I mean, have a nonbiased approach to helping you choose who to vote for president of the United States. That's what we're here for. And then, um, after that, uh, we'll take a break and we will do, uh, a show with Facundo and then Susan will come on. I guess I'll have to ask Susan. And then I'll be going to the beach for a meeting and that's it. Yeah, a comedy show. Yes, tomorrow's

comedy show. All right, thank you everyone. Have a good day. Thanks, Caleb. Thanks, everyone.