The Sevan Podcast - CrossFit Games Semifinals WEST | Event 1 Recap
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Yeah, everybody's got it.
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Welcome, everyone, to the 7-1 Podcast,
where people who are interested in CrossFit Games broadcast
either get their start or come to die?
I'm not here to die.
What about you guys?
I'm dead. I'm already dead.
I'm trying to drag you down into the grave
with me, Mr. Grundler.
I'll watch.
Some people pull a sled.
I'm trying to pull Grundler to the grave.
Hey, before we start with the magnificent event that is the Northwest semifinal,
let's go over and look at the Australian leaderboard.
We forgot to do that this morning. I was like, man, why didn't we do that?
We got some favorites over there. I have some personal favorites over there.
Before we get started, I'd like to reiterate that the scores may not be exactly
comparable because there are some thoughts that the floor in Australia was much, much, much,
much, much easier to pull the sled. But we have a tremendous performance regardless by Caitlin
Van Ziel, Jamie Simmons, Madeline Sturt. And in fifth place, are we surprised and should we be
concerned the great Ellieie turner anyone
that she's in fifth or she's in that top five or what oh that she's in fifth yeah that she's not
that sort of everyone has sort of picked her to be uh the first place finisher to win this thing
i think it's a little early yet i mean yeah i mean a third and an 11th okay the 11th not that
spectacular but she's got a lot of other events.
And Ellie's a badass.
I mean, I don't think we're done watching her anymore.
I don't think she's going to drop out of there.
She's in there.
But if it were over now, just to say, I agree with everything you're saying,
only three go from Australia, right?
Yeah.
Correct.
And those are some powerhouses up
there right you got you could i mean madeline sturt is just a straight-up veteran right four
games appearances and i think it's crazy with the on with the australian women like they
these guys all know each other so well you know so like you kind of know where everybody is when
you're when you're shoulder to shoulder with these other athletes.
I think they do. So Anthony TPA, Bill could pass his seven son.
Hey, dickhead, you know, he's a year older than me. I'm only 38.
I don't know what you're talking about. Son of a bitch.
J.R., any any concerns for Ellie? Is there should we be like is she injured is it like that
when you see an 11th like that and the girl is supposed to win it no okay no not at all i actually
thought she might be a little bit lower after two workouts with the max snatch and linda looming
like i think she's only gonna climb i agree okay uh mr spin are you in agreement do you see anything
here that concerns you or do you just be a good event with a bunch
of, uh, hardcore athletes getting after it?
Yeah.
These are just probably two of her not best, uh, workouts here.
Um, did well on the, on the first one, but I don't think anybody expected her to be at
the very top on the ring complex.
Okay.
That was the second event, the ring complex.
And, um, uh uh the good news is is
right they all finished right so that's it that's a good sign you mean got got reps on there oh uh
oh right right right it's your total a number of burpees is that what we're looking at for this one
yeah the burpee box okay okay okay yeah. Is there anyone who got zero reps here
in Australia?
All right, quite a few.
Yep.
So half the pack?
Well, I think that's one of the problems
with the scoring of it.
Explain, Mr. Bill.
Because they're only counting the burpee box jump overs.
Like, you did all that other work, and none of that even counted,
so now you have all these ties.
And that's a big problem.
Because now that's going to – that disrupts the –
you want your scoring to be appropriate to whatever that position is,
and now we have – how many zeros were there 10 it is it is scored differently though you notice how 25th 7 20 there's three 25th
and then there's a 28th so they get a tie break on there yeah how many ring muscle up complexes
you got okay but even that like it's just loaded as zero reps yeah okay yeah and john so like as
far as someone being in the same position as sydney last weekend would you say it would have to be like laura clifton is she the highest ranked
athlete coming in that was supposed to do pretty well that could possibly move up with a zero
similarly to how sydney did yes yeah because there's she's gonna have home run events just
like sydney like event five is almost the only reason sy made it. It's not the only reason,
but event five single-handedly made that 58th possible.
And I think she's the only one who has the ability to do that as well as what
Sydney did.
Yeah. But with a field of 30, and I think, you know,
if you look at the South America leaderboard too, it's,
you don't have as deep of a field, and it's tough to make up some ground
if everybody in the top is – the top five are better than the rest.
They're just going to be trading spots the whole time,
and it's going to be tough to make up that many points
with only five score events left.
Magnus Holmgren, JR, is back in the toilet room he is i noticed that uh myself
uh bane uh sebon looks like someone's first attempt at drawing bill like before they put
the muscles on it they drew in the shoulders and shit uh and there's one more good comment for jr
uh jr uh stop crying it's okay and finally richie rich uh john is so g team my goodness i'm
back on the hate there it is there it is i was feeling good this morning there's too much love
too much normal uh okay and let's cruise over to the when do these guys go next how many hours are
we away from um these these australians going uh three. Are we close?
It's later tonight.
Okay, so five or six hours, seven, eight hours from now.
Let's go over and look at the boys.
Wait, wait, sorry. One more second.
Let's do the girls one more time.
Who's Emily DeRoy?
Does she belong in there? Who is she?
She was on a team
last year, I believe.
No, she or seventh in the uh zeroth uh brian's been dropping some big bombs on us zero yeah it's good zero uh this
year um no she was seventh at torian last year uh wow okay wow. Okay. Hold on. This is going to be a long show.
I think someone looks like if you bought your bill Grunler off a wish,
I'm not sure I get that,
but I interpret it as not looking so good for me.
Oh,
okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I saw her.
Uh,
she,
she actually,
they,
they,
uh,
didn't interview with her.
Yeah.
She's young,
huh?
Young,
promising,
uh,
future of Australia.
Yeah. There's a bunch of them in australia around that age all right uh let's go take a peek eric don't get ahead of
yourself buddy don't get ahead of yourself that's exciting news though about china cho being an
let's go look at the boys in australia real quick Zach Thomas, Jay Crouch in second, Riley Smith, Bailey Martin,
William Kearney in fifth.
A first and a fifth for Zach Thomas, Jay Crouch, a third and a fourth.
Any surprises here?
Not for me.
Not really. I don't even know who any of these guys are where's uh where's
our buddy jane where's mr newberry oh there you go yeah there you go i mean even that not really
is he still in it yeah he is he can still he can still make that the top three for sure all righty all right uh that is australia
uh if you'd like to see the uh in australia is also streaming events all the events with their
main broadcast team i was able to watch some of it last night um pacific standard time i think it
was like 9 10 11 that shit starts okay let's go pop over to the uh leaderboards
over here at the north america west semi-final
i don't even know who that is oh so we don't have workout two in yet
no they just we haven't done it started even better even more reason who the fuck is that
who is that stacy larum uh she finished 14th at the atlas games last year um
really don't know too much before before that so she's very good at slide pulling
very good she's not very big if you go look uh at her instagram so what's interesting is so
she she performed at atlas games which was the worst semifinal last year, really, right?
Basically North American out of the competitive ones.
And she took 14th, but she was an American competing in Canada, which is kind of weird.
I always feel like that's an insult to send Americans over there to compete.
And here she went. Does that tell you that she's an endurance athlete as soon as you see that?
A no-name who wins an event like that?
I wouldn't say that because we saw how much difficulty people were having with the sled.
I think that she's a decent endurance athlete.
I mean she was in it on all of the machines, but where she made her move was on that sled.
Who was the strong girl who trained at UC Berkeley?
She was always – she wanted to go to the game.
She had a big Instagram account.
I think she may have even been dating like the strength and conditioning coach at UC Berkeley.
Do you guys know who I'm talking about like three or four or five years ago?
Maybe someone –
Did she ever –
She's a NorCal girl.
Did she ever qualify?
No, I don't think she ever made
it to the games you guys will know her big Instagram account I think I might know but I
can't remember her name Colleen yes yes yes yes yeah I'm getting a little always just missed
yeah I'm getting a little Colleen Fotch from uh that girl that we just saw Bob Sled Bob yeah is
that where she went is that what she ended up doing she's doing now yeah Colleen Fotch from that girl that we just saw. I can see that. Bob Sled? Bob Sled Crow? Yeah. Is that where she went? Is that what she ended up doing?
That's what she's doing now, yeah.
Colleen is huge.
She's a beast.
She's very strong.
She's a monster.
Well, so her background, she's a swimmer too.
So she's got that endurance piece.
She can hang in that zone where it just sucks just enough
and kind of hang out there for a while.
But she's just so dang strong.
And she's been to the games twice.
Once on a team and once
individual. No shit. What year did she go
individual? 2019.
Oh, that doesn't count.
Is that the year like 300 people went?
Yes. Okay.
Which country did
she represent? She's American.
Yeah. And then she was on NorCal CrossFit Redwood city in 2017 finished fourth at
the games.
Okay.
I figured,
but who knows,
maybe she went from Zimbabwe or something.
She got like a,
okay.
Back to the women's leaderboard here.
So we don't know.
So we don't know who this is. We don't know who this is we don't know who this is who's
sitting at the top uh emily rolf uh no surprise right a lot of us were picking her to be in the
top three yeah yeah no she murdered it uh any any problems with the uh sled or does she look
strong there also no she looked great the whole time great yeah uh we had questions about bethany shadburn uh taking
six does that help us answer any questions mr young and i'm i there's no answered questions
on her till the end of the competition no shit you don't i think that i think between this one
and the next one we're gonna know a lot you you agree you agree with me bill yeah no totally i
mean it's like it's always it's kind of a crap shoot
every single time so if she's when she's good she's good but then what happened that back locks
up when she's when she's broke right broke and when she breaks something she breaks something
katrin and olivia i was very impressed with on this event i did not know how different reasons
yeah for different reasons but they both
especially if you look at the women above them this was kind of a weird event ariel lowen is
like 20th like a lot of the top women did not or that we think will be the top women did not finish
super high i know emily did but if you just if you keep on going down, their names are not at the top.
And Kat and Olivia are both ahead of the women they need to be ahead of
to eventually qualify because this event, too,
is not going to be good for either of them.
But I thought they both did themselves a lot of favors.
I think I was more impressed with Olivia on that one.
And it was interesting listening to Chase and, and Adrian talk about it,
about how she's so known for her strength,
but her training coach is Jacob Heppner.
Who's not,
I think she's been proven now.
Is she proven now?
Like her whole,
her whole background has been all this stupid,
crazy volume,
long drawn out,
like type of things.
This was actually a great event for her.
I'm not going to say test. I won't do it.
It was a
great event for her. It was really fun to watch her work.
And she really looked...
I mean, and again, this is going to be
the thing we always talk about Olivia, is she
performs
with the poise
of someone that's been in the game
for a while, even though she's only 17.
And it's really cool to see that.
Yeah, she looks very within
herself. She's doing her workout,
her pace, not worried about anybody else.
That takes maturity.
You know? I mean, you can't just...
She doesn't... I don't think that they racehorse
her and put blinders on. I mean,
it takes maturity to kind of stay in your lane and do your thing.
And I think it's really cool to see her do that.
You got the old dog at 8th, the medium dog at 9th, and the young dog at 10th, right?
Yeah.
Olivia finished last on the trail run at Rogue Invitational.
last at on the trail run at uh rogue invitational so i mean i don't think anybody expected her to be in there in a long long endurance event and i also throw out like she beat people like
danny spiegel who we thought would kill this and has improved her running and if the endurance was
that hard that danny couldn't just muscle everybody like she beat her which i think is a testament to her fitness going
forward jr do you have my back on this i suggested that we would know everything we need to know
about bethany shadburn after event two boy slapped me around and said nobody sorry that that but that
boat's made out of balsa wood and could break or not break. What about Katrin Davidsdoter?
If we see her finish top 10 again in this next workout,
do we know that she's going to the games?
I would bet a lot of money that she's going to the games
if she finishes top 10 in the next workout.
Yeah.
But I want to –
Like I think the people coming in that we need to really keep an eye on
and see how much they
climb or don't climb after day one going into moving day where there's 300 points is Freya
who's in 37th Bailey who's in 26 like to me coming in like Ariel in 20th like 20th with a field of
60 you know juxtaposed to Oceania that only has 30, you know, you know,
spin already talked about, it's gonna be hard to make up points.
It's not going to be here. So there's going to be,
so there's going to be big swings and they're going to be people that
qualify that have maybe like a 30th to a 40th place finish.
So just keep an eye on Bailey and Freya.
I'm really interested to see how they have bounced back and how much they
climb going into day two.
And why Freya?
Kelly Baker, too.
I mean, Kelly Baker's 23rd.
I'll be interested to see how she does.
Like going in, most people picked both of those athletes to qualify for the games.
So I'm just looking for the people who we all expect to be there in the end, where they are after the first workout.
And Freya is a games athlete, right?
Correct.
In front of the big crowd last year, throwing the sandbag around.
She's the real deal.
What do you think this does to her mindset?
21 years old, 37th place.
I guess that's where the test is going to be for her, huh?
Forget this workout and move forward?
Is that the game plan?
I think her coach, Michelle, probably does an amazing job
with mental frame of mind, event to event,
just focusing on the next task at hand.
So I don't worry about her in that aspect at all.
Tell me, does anyone know anything about Olivia going to Proven?
Does that mean – did she move?
Did she move did she move
to tennessee no she's she's still out west or with heppner but um i think she's doing all of
and she still trains with heppner it's just kind of like handed her over to shane i'm sure i'm
pretty sure they've talked and you know and decided that was the right move yeah that happened right
in between wadapalooza in the open you know hefner's doing the tactical games now too like he's not all up in crossfit 24 7 he's got his own you know he's
doing a whole bunch of stuff he's not all about crossfit 24 7 and olivia is
she's so damn strong what um what how significant is it that ol Olivia did well on this being what we heard Danielle Brandon say last night that, hey, you know, the machines don't really test your running.
Do you think that if this was would have been outside, Olivia would have done just as well or somehow she figured out how to take advantage of the machines, the runner in particular?
I don't think that it, I mean, as we saw from last week and then even into this week, I saw, I think looking from last week to this week,
the athletes that came in this week all know that it's not about the machines.
It's not a machine race that's there.
You have to be able to hang with the machines.
You've got to be able to hang on that run since that's the longest piece,
but it really comes down to how you move the sled.
I think.
JR, do you think Bailey and Freya are going to bounce back?
Yeah, I think so, especially Bailey on this next workout.
She would be one I would expect to be in the top five on this.
With just how much we know the density of the pressing,
especially with the ring dip,
is going to affect the females even more so than the males. I think her muscle stamina there is going to be great and she'll bounce back.
What I think is really interesting about Olivia is what she's going to snatch tomorrow. We assume
she's going to do well on Linda. There's a lot of weightlifting there. Sometimes we see younger
athletes for some reason not be so developed in that plane of press with the bench
press so maybe she doesn't have that type of pressing strength with an external load but two
years ago at the game she snatched more than any individual at the competition as a team so i think
she's gonna i think she could really put on a show tomorrow it's kind of it's kind of sad that uh
i guess it's not sad but if danny and christine colin brander
weren't here i think more eyes would be on on her because those two girls i think will snatch more
than like they're like there's an abnormal amount of heavy snatchers in the north america west
on the mid side too like we have two guys who are over 315. There's an abnormal amount of insane snatchers,
and Olivia is one of them, but it kind of takes eyes off of her.
And I am excited to watch her too.
Let me ask you some questions here, guys.
I don't understand some of these comments.
She's with OPEX.
Who's the OPEX athlete they're referencing?
Okay.
I don't know.
Potch, I think, was.
Oh, Savon, get her coach on already, Sam Smith.
Oh, is that all about Colleen?
Okay, I don't know what they're talking about.
Barry McOchner, why isn't Boz at the West Semis?
I believe he is.
I think he commentated one of the heats I saw, right?
Yeah, he was with Chase, wasn't he?
Yeah, he got a haircut.
Let me cruise down here there was one more um uh carpet getting slower over time early heats uh placings oh meaning that
the early heats did better uh any any truth to that or that's just no vikowski was the last heat
of the day and he had the fastest time. Jason Miller, Canada, 699.
Who do you think is the biggest named female in the East
that will not qualify biggest upset in the East?
Well, that was Brooke Wells, but I think she means West.
Probably Fusilet.
Yeah, she's done.
Oh, man.
Ay, ay, ay.
Poor Fusilet.
She just couldn't move it.
Gina Bartoli, thank you for the coverage this weekend.
I saw Colton walking around and said hi for you.
Sevan, also a big fan of John Young.
Well, who isn't?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Listen, there's two kinds of people in this world,
people who are fans of John Young and people who are in denial.
That is the fucking truth.
Okay.
Oh, look, a little note for Grunder.
For Grunder. How about my boy R little note for Grunder.
How about my boy Rafa Skansen Grunder?
Grunder knows him from the Central Valley Throwdown,
Mexico's national champion, a Monterey, California boy.
I've been telling Brian Friend to keep his eye on him.
It was really actually cool to see him win his heat.
So I've seen him kind of come through.
He's one of the Valley guys, and he's always been kind of hanging around really
really good local guy um i saw him last year he was at guadalupalooza on a team with a couple
other local guys and they were in the elite division so it's good to see him bounce up there
he's been he's like a good regional athlete and i think with some of the events that it would be fun
to see him up in that i think you can say stay in the top 15. That would be really cool.
Does he speak English?
He's a good dude.
Yeah, totally.
This is Mexico's national champion.
Wasn't he the national champ in 2019?
I think when they did the rankings like that, yeah.
He was born south of San Diego?
I don't know where he was born, honestly.
I've only known him since he's been up here.
He's been in the Valley.
He now coaches at, man, it's a long name.
It's a box that's on a winery.
Richard something.
I'll remember.
Sorry, you guys.
Let it go to that box.
My bad.
Alexandra Berry, $79.99, Australian money.
Thanks, Devon, on Real Media.
Great coverage as always.
That's fantastic, Alexandra.
Thank you for the money.
That's a lot of money.
I will now not be sharing my grave site with bill and i will buy him his own site
with that money uh richard russell that's what it was sorry can we cruise back over to the ladies
a lot of unfamiliar names in the top 10 or people maybe we didn't expect uh china cho uh in eighth katrin's daughter in ninth uh
tenth olivia kerstetter as we head further down 14th danny spiegel that's that i mean we expect
her to be higher than a lot of girls but still we expected her to be higher probably alex gazan
15th 16th colleen uh christine colin brander 18th cindy mccullish and i thought she looked great on
the runner man for all the shit i talk about her running, I thought she looked good.
And from the footage I saw, I thought Christine Kohlenbrander
in that final heat looked the worst on the running.
Any thoughts on that?
Anyone get a peek at that?
Can you judge someone's running by the runner?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can see their cadence, their stride, how comfortable they look running.
Ariel Lowen, 20th.
Should we be concerned?
No.
Or is it good news that so many good girls are down here?
I think that'll be our worst event.
Okay.
Kelly Baker, 22nd.
Bailey Rayl, as JR was mentioning. Where was she? Did I miss her? 22nd? Bailey Rail, as JR was mentioning.
Where was she?
Did I miss her?
22nd?
26th.
She's going to climb for sure.
Now look at that.
Bailey Rail and Allison Scudds,
you wouldn't think that necessarily they'd be side by side, right?
Do you think Allison Scudds?
We haven't even mentioned her name.
She really wants to go to the game.
She's been trying for a long time.
The demo team captain.
Does she have a chance? She really wants to go to the game. She's been trying for a long time. The demo team captain.
Does she have a chance?
Yeah, anyone who's in the top 30 for sure still has a chance with a field 60.
Like it's not even – It's just one event.
Number 30, Lauren Fisher.
Probably second most Instagram followers in the bunch, right, after Danny Spiegel?
Or maybe Katrin Davidsdottir.
Man, there's some heavyweights in here in terms of their CrossFit popularity.
You've got the kid Trista Smith in 33rd.
Right next to Kelly Clark.
Maybe one of the older athletes besides Chyna Cho.
Oh, maybe she's the same age as Chyna.
How old is Chyna?
36.
There you go.
And I think as we go down here, there's Freya Moosberger,
JR was talking about.
Yeah.
When I did the correlation analysis from the east,
actually day one had the least correlation to the overall finish.
So you're going to see a lot of movement after today.
had the least correlation to the overall finish.
So you're going to see a lot of movement after today.
So I wouldn't put a whole lot of weight into where they are after this event.
I think some of them will bounce back,
and if they're in striking distance, they'll be fine going into Morrow if they're one of the stronger athletes.
Can we see the next page?
And finally, Rebecca Fuselier.
So she's cooked, huh?
That's it?
Yeah, I think she's done.
And I think she's going to kill the next event.
Can she win it?
She could, but I think it's not going to happen.
She's going to have to win one, which she definitely could on six.
And then she's probably going to have to have two more top tens.
Sydney's worst finish was 58th, so only one spot better.
And she also had a 34th, but she had a first, a ninth, and a ninth.
So, Linda, Linda is not happening.
Wait, Sidney Wells had a 58th?
Yeah.
The muscle-up workout.
Oh, nice.
Got zero.
So this still has to happen.
Let me ask you guys this.
Who's a better CrossFitter, Mr. Spin, Sidney Wells or Rebecca Fuselier?
I'd say Sidney Wells with one hole. Bill Grundler, who's a better CrossFitter, Sidney Wells or Rebecca Fuselier? I'd say Sidney Wells with one hole.
Bill Grundler, who's a better crossfitter, Sidney Wells or Rebecca Fuselier?
I think depending on the programming, what you have, Rebecca Fuselier is going to be.
Good, thank you.
Okay, 1-1, JR.
Rebecca Fuselier or Sidney Wells, who's a better crossfitter?
For what we know, Rebecca. one John Young don't make me be the tie break Rebecca
Fusli or Sidney Wells who's the better crossfitter yeah I kind of agree with Bill uh it depends on
the programming right um if it's if it's more in the gym CrossFit uh then I think Rebecca. If it's outside, more athletic stuff,
which the games is,
then I would say Sydney.
Oh, shit.
That doesn't agree with Bill.
That agrees with fucking Mr. Spin.
We got a fucking 2-2.
Bill, didn't you pick Fuselier?
I said Fuselier.
You agree with Bill, but you pick...
As a CrossFitter,
I think in the gym CrossFit workouts.
I think Rebecca's better in that.
Oh, Nelly.
You got to look at the –
Other than muscle-ups, Sydney did amazing.
You just named how many times Rebecca's not going to do well this weekend.
She didn't do well this time.
She's not going to do well in Linda.
She's not going to do well in her one-rep max snatch.
You think Sydney Wells snatches more than Rebecca Fuseli?
Please tell me that.
Brian, we can flip it back to last year.
10 lengthless rope climbs for time, and then Sydney doesn't make the games.
Like, it's that simple.
And Rebecca does.
It's very on the programming between those two athletes.
Like, Sydney had some home run hits.
You're talking last year, yeah i know but i'm
saying this year sydney with the program we had home runs and rebecca's not gonna have it so i
don't think rebecca's going to make it but as far as who's better i really think it just depends on
what the programming is the second 10 legless rope climbs comes out sydney doesn't make it
eric wise uh who's been on the podcast oh rebecca wins
uh anthony tpa uh call brian friend uh d squad is blowing it brian's not allowed to uh call in he's
he has a link if he wants to come in uh uh everyone snatches more than rebecca uh what
are you talking about 127 pounds bill that's a
problem yeah that's a problem huh yeah it's a problem that's a problem in that that's with the
way that the programming is set up it's not that uh i mean we all we all know how rebecca moves
we've seen her do amazing things we know that she's getting stronger if you look at her instagram
and stuff like that, you'll see.
It's like, oh yeah, this way it's going up
and that way it's going up, but you get against the field
and if she did
this bad in this event where she had to pull that
sled, she's going to have Linda,
which is going to be tough. She's going to have the one
that's not snatch, which is not going to happen.
It's like the cards
aren't playing to her favor at all.
Even the one where she has to rep favor at all. Even the one
where she has to rep the snatches
out, she may
be able to move the bar okay,
but if she can't
touch and go, you're out.
You're out.
Those little legs don't run fast either.
That's the hard part.
That's what I mean about the programming part
for her specifically. If you you're if you're 145 pound uh female athlete who's 5'6
and you put a 10 pound ruck on you you know it takes you up to 155 pounds if you're 176 pound
athlete and you put the 10 pounds on you that's a problem and if you're 127 you put the 10 pounds
on you that's a problem too do you kind of see what i'm drawing here like she really is fucking small 137 would be small
yeah but but there's there's no there's no gifts for her in this what and she's the same height as
carrie pierce carrie pierce was 135 140 and that's what it takes to get i think that's what it would
take for her to get as strong as she would need to get.
Ten more pounds of muscle?
Yeah.
God, she would be fucking a brick shit.
I mean, look, you could take it with a different example, too.
Roman was 200 pounds forever.
And then he was like, I'm not strong enough.
I'm going to take the chance. I'm going to put 20 pounds on and be the biggest dude out there.
And then it paid off for him. Now he's the second fittest man in the chance. I'm going to put 20 pounds on and be the biggest dude out there. And then it
paid off for him. Now he's the second fittest man in the world because he, his gymnastics did not
fade and he's 20 pounds heavier and he lifts a lot more than he used to before. He just wasn't
strong enough to compete with the top tier guys. His engine was always good enough, but he wasn't
strong enough. And it's a matter of, and then that-off of like okay so maybe i can only i can do one less muscle up because of that extra weight but i'm able to move
30 more pounds like that that's going to get you more points and when that's the reason it keeps
you out especially right um oh that uh blade walker wow this is this is a fucking... John Young looks like... John Young looks like the long-lost Hodgman.
No, it's this one.
Blade only thinks you look like black guys.
John Young looks like he could be Elliot Hulse's brother.
That's a compliment.
Do you know who that is?
I don't.
Yeah, that's a great dude.
I love him a lot.
That's an amazing guy.
Yeah, you'd like that guy.
You guys know who that is?
Elliot Hulse, one of the first fitness guys ever to make it to a million YouTube.
Whatever it is, it's better than the Goonies guy.
This guy's great.
This guy's amazing.
This is a very, very wise man.
I'd like to hang with Elliot. he's a cool dude uh parker hunter
won high rocks if anyone cared i cared i already sent him a congratulations it's pretty always
wins high drugs yeah it's like saying if the cows he's gonna win the sled pool event right
twins are attractive so it's a compliment all right um let's go back to uh the let's go back to the leaderboard check out the um boys when when is the
uh event individual event two starts at uh 12 35 no three oh 3 35 p.m
why so late oh because we're west okay we're west coast that's in pasadena
okay so we have a little bit of time uh brent fukowski first place no surprise there right Oh, because we're West Coast. In Pasadena. Okay.
So we have a little bit of time.
Brent Fikowski, first place.
No surprise there, right?
As long as he's healthy, this is his event, right?
It surprised one of us on the panel.
Who?
We weren't talking about specific events.
There's still time.
By the way, I won that bet.
You got to do that workout now.
Ryan told me that Chandler Smith would beat him in this workout,
would beat Fikowski really he he bet me like like he felt very confident about it hey uh how do you know how does he know uh how do you know elliot
hillary if you're moving to florida he lives in florida move near him he's got a homestead there
do you still think he'll miss out, Brian?
It's less likely than it was before a couple hours ago.
Didn't Brian Friend think he would miss out too?
No. Ryan had a third.
Oh, okay. Rafael
Sanson.
Is this the guy that they mentioned earlier?
Yeah. Okay.
Cole Grayshaber. No surprise there, right?
Matthew Green. Samuel Quant. No surprise there. Justin Medeiros. Let's stop on the champ for a second. Everything looking good. Good.
His pacing is otherworldly. It is so amazing. Like I thought down there was why, what did you see? Why do you say that? that what did you he was behind velner by a full sled length and i was like this is great like because i had picked velner to beat him so
i'm i'm rooting for velner here right and i was like he's ahead of him this is an event that could
go either way and then velner starts blowing up and justin all of a sudden shoots by six people
on the last sled pool like he the way he and brian's talked about this before brian friend the way he he comes
out at his whatever pace he comes out he's there's nobody better than him at pacing an event and it's
every single event it's not just one type which is incredible it's no matter what type of uh
endurance strength whatever bias it is he is the best pacer of the whole field and that's why and then he ends
up in sixth place i mean he could have seven six places and he's gonna and then he'll win
because yeah that's what he does watching justin and pat next to each other on the bike
uh i mean looked like maderos was in slow motion like his cadence was just way slower and all of a sudden there he comes pat
blew up bad bad hard yeah oh we'll get to pat in one second bill do you agree with this whole pacing
thing this is this madaris is yeah he's the 30 minute event he's like okay this is where i need
to be this is how is it this is how i need to feel i think i think he's able to he's able to do it by feel like he and just
instinctually being an athlete for a long time knows that like okay i need to be able to close
hard well you can't close hard if you come off the first implement first you're just not going
to be able to do it we we see it time and time again nobody wins round one you win round one
you're not winning the event it doesn't usually work out that way but he just knows to be able to hang with everyone and knows what he has in the tank and we i think that we've seen
that sort of um sniper mentality with a lot of the greats that we've had rich was the same way
matt was the same way they just they're right by you until they need to make that switch
and what are you good i was gonna say what i always
think about with justin is if you go back to the aromas games not the old school rooms games at the
2020 uh when him and matt had to do the turnaround on the run or him and yeah him and matt did the
turnaround the run i think that was the first time where he's like okay i know i can hang i know i
can hang and then there was that switch and it was like now he had
to realize okay i have to be able to be ready for something like that so he's always in that pacing
mindset of i'm going to be towards the front if i need to go faster i will if i need to go faster i
can and then just like you said with this race john that like at the end he he put the pedal
down when he needed to put it down he waited till the sleds because that's what
is that you could make a lot of room up on the sled i mean someone was going to take one of those
big pulls and you saw how long it took for some of those athletes that they do one big pull and
that recoil as they're kind of you know getting themselves back up to get the slack out of the
rope was a lot of time for some athletes and he just didn't there wasn't that at the end for him
and i like the fact that he had that confidence where it's like okay i'll hang right on your was a lot of time for some athletes. And he just didn't. There wasn't that at the end for him.
And I like the fact that he had that confidence where it's like,
okay, I'll hang right on your shoulder.
It's almost like he was swimming, like he was drafting and just waiting.
And then when he needed to go, he's like, okay, now I'll race.
And that was really cool to see.
You think Dave scarred him?
I don't think Dave scarred him.
I think Matt left a mark is what I think because he wasn't able to catch matt but i also think i was like okay i see what
you're saying i see what you're saying right with literally the fittest dude ever i can hang with
that guy then i'm never gonna be hurting if i just go the speed of everybody else and then i'll
be able to turn it on when i want to like to have the fitness to do it too oh yeah it's a whole nother thing well yeah
you're right that's not just lip service you have to have the fitness to be able to do that 100%
but you're confident you can hang with Matt you're you're there's nobody who's going to just
bait you and then you're done you know what I mean well I think I think the fact that Matt
was able to turn that on and he didn't have that extra that extra gear which i mean which after we saw i mean that's what we saw
him training with matt after that game season so it's like okay how do you get that i want to i
want to have that whether it's a confidence thing or it's a training thing or if it's just a
patience thing i think you know the thing that's really cool
about Justin now is he has a, um, a level of experience. He, he had the fitness, but now he
has the maturity of that being the best. So he can, he's got the ability to run his race. He wants to
run. Have you, have you seen, have you looked at this guy matthew green's instagram account who's the
california hormones athlete number four bill have you do you know about this guy no he's a
freaking freak dude i forgot about him hillar's right dude i he might be like a fucking like a
pan ams fucking jujitsu world champion or something like he is fucking gnarly he's he's he's cut from
the same cloth you are he's i think he's a collegiate wrestler he was i think he's a state
champ nice he's gnarly he's a big fucking dude is this the dude who was wearing the um look what
uh did he have the green head he was wearing those those shorts on those shorts he's got in that uh
that uh yeah those are the same green was showing his whole cock on the live stream.
I love cock.
Well, all right.
Fair enough.
Here we go.
Here we go.
I'm scarred from this phone.
Caller, hi.
Don't ruin this show, please.
Hello?
I think I'm having phone issues.
I apologize for hanging up on you, caller.
I'm damaged goods.
Let me disconnect the phone and reconnect it.
Oh, there it is.
That's the Matthew Green shirt?
Yes.
Have they tested Matthew Green?
No, they need to.
He's a fucking monster.
If you ain't cheating, you ain't
trying. That's his fucking slogan
on his shirt.
He better
triple test
his ass.
You can't.
You can't what?
Triple test a guy?
No. You can't be like
hey, I'm doing I'm probably doing drugs.
Test me.
I don't know.
I'm okay with it.
A weird shirt to wear.
All right.
Let's go back to that.
Let's go back to this list of the dudes.
Okay.
John Wood, number 11.
Nick Matthew. Let me ask you one more thing about Madeira.
Is that his worst finish of the week? You think six?
No, I think no. I don't know. The snatch.
He'll probably, he'll probably be lower than the snatch. Okay.
Other than that, uh, he'll be around that the whole week.
I don't think he'll, he's amazing at how consistent he is.
Nick Matthew.
Good.
Patrick Vellner.
You guys said he blew up.
Why was he in the lead?
Was he like going to take third or fourth or something?
And then all of a sudden you saw a slid stop.
He was second.
Yeah.
He was right there with Brent for the most part.
Yeah.
Either he was trying to hang with quant and beat quant or uh and then just couldn't do it and
like seven guys passed him i heard the i heard the boys on the um i heard uh chase and adrian
saying that um or the that afterwards velner and uh fukowski were over there talking about the sled
you think it was that he blew up or something happened with the sled no he blew up he wasn't pulling oh cool and just like and then pulled again like like you know he was taking breaks he blew up
uh zach ritter uh hannah black will turn heads on the uh snatch event call her hi i hope i fixed it
sorry for hanging up on you hey what's up man up, man? No, you're fine, man. Can you hear me okay?
Yeah, thank you.
Okay. All right, so we're talking about Belner here, right?
Yes.
We're talking about him blowing up on that event?
Yes.
This is a Canadian, isn't it? I can hear an accent.
You're hearing a canadian accent
well i'm from boston so good oh okay all right my bad my bad no no you're good so what do you think
that what happened with belner here because it seemed like on the run he was holding a good pace
and not only did he hold it he was actually like speeding up his pace over the course of the run.
It looked like he was
pushing for a top spot there.
Where did it go wrong for him?
Too much creatine.
I don't think his lungs blew up. I think his
forearms blew up and he couldn't
hold on to the rope. Whenever you're pulling,
your pulling muscles blow up. If you did the
quarterfinals workout, the very last workout,
you'll know what this is like with the nine rope climbs at the end of it.
Um, well, so his forearms just blow up. You can't pull the rope.
If you can't pull it, you can't open your hands. What are you going to do?
I think as long as we're fine, I think it's just pulling muscles blew up.
Caller. Hold on one second. Listen to this caller.
This is an interview that uh scott
weitzer did uh 17 minutes ago with pat patrick velner let's listen in here we go the life of an
elite athlete how'd it feel oh it wasn't very good but it's nice to have one done so i don't know
that was a bit of an unpredictable one just because we don't know what that equipment feels
like right and it's a bit it's a bit different depending on your lane on like what happens with the slides so
you have to deal with frustrations in the middle of the workout which is not as common in a
semi-final final setting that's like something we see more at the games but uh you know so you
haven't used that piece of equipment that slides piece no no i don't think anybody really had and
there was not in the back so the first time you got your hands on it was after the bike.
Well, I appreciate your time. I'm going to let you get recovered.
I am excited to see you on the back too. You're my pick.
Thank you.
All right. Sorry. That was Jamie.
I think that was Jamie Latimer actually posting on the Clydesdale media.
What do you guys think about that?
It sounds like he is giving two factors,
that maybe there was a hiccup with the equipment.
He had never tested and he had never tested the equipment before.
I think that was a standard Pat answer to a result, whatever it takes.
I think I personally, I don't like that sled.
I don't like what they're using on that.
I don't like that you should have to have a possible wrinkle pop up because you're not testing fitness anymore.
You're testing the chance of something getting messed up. And I don't think that that's i don't think it's right
i don't think it's fair i mean but it is what it is and everyone's gonna have to deal with that so
um i think you know something to what you were saying john uh about the his his forms being
blown out so you figure if you if you get overtaxed on the run you start
you're blowing out all that oxygen where you need it so now you have those smaller muscles that
if you if you take out all that oxygen to those muscles you're right you're not going to have
that pulling power so i think if he was going too hard on that run which i think is a mistake
because as we've seen from that last week, this is not about the run.
It's about what you can do.
So you have to have a pace on the run so you can come off that and feel okay.
And he didn't feel okay.
Cause he didn't,
it wasn't like he pulled,
pulled,
pulled,
pulled and it slowed down.
He took a couple of pulls after that run.
And it was like a lot of time was wasted.
So I think that,
I think that run did a lot more than,
than, uh, it just being a wrinkle in the...
Oh, maybe it's a wrinkle in that, I think, probably, too.
Sorry.
Well, yeah, I was going to say, Bill, I totally agree with you that it clearly did something more.
But you think about this guy's pulling ability, right?
Like pulling comes into the gymnastics you you
look at ring muscle this guy's you know one of the best in the world right you'd pick him in any event
so the pulling isn't the issue so is it his efficiency with the the sled pull that was the
issue here or you know because it performs low, you know, this should be a posterior chain focused workout.
Right. At the end of the day, this is a well, one, it's a different pull.
Like this pull does not mimic a ring muscle up or it's not biceps and wax.
Yeah. I mean, I think if if he if that was an issue, I mean, I really wish I could get my hands on this sled to try it.
Because I was watching the race, and I was actually here in the gym right before the class started.
And I was testing all the different ways to pull the sled here.
And I stacked six plates on my Rogue dog sled.
And I was hand over handing that one.
And I don't know why i didn't see more of that
to at least kind of go back and forth so you're not blowing out just one piece of your machine
as you as you're working so i i don't know i i just think that if he was having that much of a
problem because he got stuck in the mud it stopped and i think the reason it was that because he just
couldn't hold on to that there's no way that that was going to be too heavy for him i think he wasn't
able to hold on to it and the only thing I think the way that that happened was because he went too hard on the
run, tried to make up too much distance on the run or too much real estate on the run.
Which is fair. I mean, I think honestly, at the end of the day, you got to think about this. This
isn't a normal sled, right? I mean, you can see this as like, you know, you got a pool cover.
You're pulling this piece of canvas that has 225 pounds on it.
It's not going to slide normally.
You saw that with Oceania, right?
They're pulling and they're flying with that thing.
But, you know, the friction component of this thing, especially when you can't turn the sled around it causes a major issue especially in you know
north america east and west right so you know it comes down to the friction component it's not
it has nothing to do with the weight at the end of the day i don't think i don't necessarily
disagree with you on that one i i don't that's why i don't like the sled i don't like watching
that thing jerk around when people would like when they would lurch the the sled
and it would stop and you see that whole stack kind of like lunge forward getting that wrinkle
underneath or you go to turn it and you see athletes starting to pull then they have to run
back out to reset up everything like i think i i think all that shit's bullshit that was a
justification for it you know it's a weird standard at the end
of the day right so you know why can't you just tweak it at the beginning it should be based on
the pull not on your orientation of the sled but you know uh i'm not i'm paying 120 for a piece of
canvas at the end of the day but okay thanks guys yeah thank you very much thanks for calling
uh katrin's creepy fiance velner is a canadian uh neanderthal uh bill you kind of are saying
something that's making me think i need to ask you a question personal question what do you got uh I recall you being one of the best athletes in the world at one or two events, regardless of what they were.
But because of your age, your recovery was making it so you showed up at regionals and did amazing on day one for a couple years.
And then the recovery wasn't there.
for a couple years and then the recovery wasn't there and that's when i think the conversation started that as gentlemen get older they can still perform at one or two events really really well
but their recovery becomes an issue did we see is i know it's only one workout but did we see
that in velner that maybe his capacity is waning because of his, what the fuck do you know? You're 22. No way. Not yet.
Let me let this old guy answer.
Let your elders
speak, young one.
I don't think that
that even enters in.
He's 30. How old is he?
He's 33.
Is that a right characterization of what we saw with you?
You would show up to regional?
I was in my 40s. All right right shit he's only 42 when you walk down the floor with your cane
and you would and you would hand your cane to the judge hey i had brand new tennis balls on my
walker when i came out it was fine it was fine um no i don't i don't think that that's an i don't
think that that's an element yet for him i think where you'll see the older athletes have to deal with it will be on the third day.
Coming to the end of the second and the third day.
That's right.
This first event, nah.
And it's seven events.
He's used to 15.
Right.
The volume is not going to be too much for him.
No.
I think he's fine.
I think what it was is he saw where people were and I think he just
hopped in there.
He tried to hop up too fast.
Or tried to catch people
where he shouldn't have.
Seve, stop using my comments
without crediting me.
I'm scrolling back.
I don't see what you said
that I stole.
Don't worry.
He'll get second place
on event two
and then all will be right
in the world.
Totally.
Alisa,
Alisa Carr-Ridau.
Colton will get first.
Where can I find the scoring
table breakdown for the events? I don't even know
what that means. I got you. I think I just
commented. It'll come through.
Thank you, Rismadau.
Lydia, Subban over here being an
ageist to the athletes when he remembers where
he was when the Hindenburg went down.
Asshole.
Listen, I remember.
I remember I was standing there when Bill jumped off the fucking rope
and fucking his Achilles fucking shot across the fucking Del Mar.
It was my knee.
Del Mar Stadium, whatever.
Some body part of Bill's fell off.
Got that shit on camera There's my, see that right there
That was my ACL right there
Snap
God, I loved being there when the Hindenburg
Went down, that was great, thank you
Okay, back over to the boys one more time
And then let's do a quick pick
Of who's gonna kick ass in event number two.
Do we have a Rebecca?
Oh, Cole Sager?
Chandler Smith, they're hanging in there?
Yeah, I mean, I think they're fine.
I think they would have liked to do better than this, but I think ultimately they're fine.
Someone was driving the Hindenburg.
I was putting on my
toe spacers when it went down
okay let's keep
going I'm curious do we have a
Fuselier here Logan
Ewing I'd love to see him go
oh no Daniel Cook
oh shit how come I haven't seen
Colton yet he's coming
is he competing
Anthony Davis you would have thought he would have done better on this one How come I haven't seen Colton yet? He's coming Is he competing?
Anthony Davis You would have thought he would have done better on this one
Okay, where's JR when you need him?
Is Colton Mertens the
Freya Moose Bruger
And Bailey Rail
Does he fall under that same category
That JR was talking about?
Colton's the Sidney Wells
Is what Colton is
Meaning he's going to make it.
I don't know.
I hope he makes it,
but he's going to have home run events and he's going to need to have them.
If he doesn't have them,
he won't make it.
But like he gets first in event two and then,
you know,
he'll be like 17th going into day two,
ready to move.
Alrighty.
Let's keep going South
Mitch McClune
Will Leahy
I think
Brian has him in
That's me that's like
Brian's boy
He loves
Him
Okay
Only 14 points for him okay let's go Page two Boy, he loves him. Oh, no. Okay.
Only 14 points for him.
Okay, let's go page two.
Mertens could be adaptive.
Not cool.
Not cool.
But true.
But not cool.
God damn.
And I'm in trouble for taking a phone call talking about Daniel Brandon's nipples and you call colt merton's adaptive my god uh tutor to uh what time is it shut it heidi
shut it i don't understand what are they talking about with the piercing stuff
no i don't want to talk about it you can go back to worst day of my life. Watch this day's show. No, don't.
Fuck that show all up.
It's okay.
Thousand shows, I fucked two of them up.
It's okay.
I'm okay.
Tudor Magna, 57th.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
That breaks my heart.
I told you that his conditioning is his biggest weakness.
Yeah, but I mean, this is because he can't move his sled.
It's not because of his – I mean, his conditioning is not good.
But, I mean, you don't get 57 just because bad conditioning.
I don't know how he snatched 320 pounds and can't move this freaking sled.
Because I think he had to push himself too hard.
I feel like I could be Tudor in this workout.
Nah, he's better than i am
maybe maybe i i think if you're if you're falling behind early on and you push that run
and you're not as good as velner is that those last two sled 99 percent of the field
i think you would make the call hey velner's probably better than me. I'll run my pace.
He's a young guy.
I don't know. I don't think he paced.
He obviously didn't pace well enough.
I think Bill could beat Tudor in this workout.
I think I could beat Tudor in this workout.
I would have finished this.
That's what I'm saying. You just got to pull the sled.
I just got to pull the sled.
Dude, I don't know.
I want to get my hands on one of those sleds because I want to see what that –
That's how bad the bag is.
I want to see what it is because it just –
it doesn't make any sense to me that it should have been that hard for these guys.
Freaking Mertens can do it.
Right.
He's adaptive.
He's adaptive. He's adaptive.
Lionel,
Lionel Franco took a big hit.
I had him making it,
Bill.
I did not think he would have had that much trouble as he did,
but he could not move the sled either.
I didn't think he would either.
That stupid thing.
Wait,
let's just pause for a second.
Let's just pause for a fucking second
really that is dumb really seriously at this point just put like just pull tires
just tie a rope around a tire and have them pull a fucking tug or a concrete ball i don't i don't
understand i don't understand the reason for for pulling out. Even if it was like, okay, we don't want a lot of equipment, fine.
They have just the flat sled plate.
It doesn't have to be some big full dog sled style.
Oh, right, like the ones that Jimbrow is carrying in the back of their car.
Yes, yes, yes.
What if they just did a 45-pound plate push?
Just one plate, and you just got to push it on that ground.
That's shitty, too.
Because that's way harder than you think.
That's way shitty.
Yeah, that.
Wow, Caleb, you are hard.
It's just a grind.
You know what I mean?
Nobody can really beat anybody.
It's just how long do you want to do it?
Hey, they chose the cloth for a reason.
I'd be curious what it is
I mean I like the pull
I like the pull
I do I think it's fun
I wonder what Bill and Katie think about it
Like here this is a problem
Anthony Davis is too strong for the sled
Sorry go ahead Kayla watch this shit
He's just too strong for this fucking sled
I think he ripped it
And they replaced it going into the final heat
He pulled the rope
off the no no the the the carpet was actually like ripping i got a video sent to me of of one
of them i believe it was his that should not be the case no i agree this is this is that's not
your fitness this is crossfit 2011 doing the uh sandbag wheelbarrow where the wheelbarrows are breaking.
What the fuck are we doing?
Home Depot 30 minutes before the event.
I mean, I love the idea, but give me a break.
Come on.
Matt Chan still remembers that.
M1, I ripped the curtain off my window and put 225 pounds on it.
That's awesome.
I want to say something else to you, M1.
that's awesome i want to say something else to you m1 uh is that uh i i uh don't i much rather appreciate you guys um uh ripping on me here about things than ripping on me in the youtube
comments because when i see him in the youtube comments i want to fuck you guys up so if you
in here it's all it's all fun and games go ahead. We can do all the piercing big nose talk we want.
You do that shit over on YouTube,
I'll put you on a little list.
Put you on a little list.
All right.
So we don't approve of the carpet.
No.
No, yeah.
Too many issues.
I mean, I know that once you're in competition mode,
when you're an athlete,
you can't give a shit about what it is
because you just have to make it happen.
So you can't spend your time thinking about that.
But for everyone else that's watching, us that are analysts or coaches or programmers or ex-athletes or whatever watching this, it's just a big, fat, dumb question mark.
Why?
Why did you pick that?
You didn't need to pick that.
And all it did was mess things
up now i would think it would be not as i still would have problems with it but at least if you
were going only one way and not have to turn that thing but you have a cloth thing that you need to
turn with 225 pounds on it you're gonna get a weird wrinkle in it stupid hey i think that they did it
because yeah i'm a dog you know you, dog, you know Fucking sleep outside today
I think they did it because
They wanted all the equipment to be the same
And they were thinking of Australia
Yeah, this is fucking hilarious
That is fucking dumb
That is so dumb
They brought out a new sled
For the final heat after that
Is it ripping right now? really, really pull it,
like really get some distance on it, it won't let you.
Hey, this looks like this is crazy.
This looks like some event at an affiliate.
Like, hey, just deal with it, guys.
Yeah, hey, we don't have the equipment, but we're going to go ahead and make it.
Like, that's what I mean.
This is CrossFit 2011.
Let's make something. This will is, this is CrossFit 2011. Let's, let's make some,
it'll be,
this will be cool.
It's really cool.
Like you make a class workout and then you're like,
man,
that didn't go how I thought it was going to go.
Sorry,
I'll do better next time.
Hey,
that looks like it's made specifically for AstroTurf.
I don't know.
I've heard,
I've heard a couple of army guys say that they'll use this for
like uh some rotc testing or whatever but it's not those guys aren't moving weight like this
all right uh let's go ahead and pick the uh what do we have we're uh hour and four minutes away
from the start of the next event let's go uh take a quick peek at event number dose. This is the complex. I was actually pretty excited about it.
And after watching week one, I'm, I don't like the event at all.
When I see the complex, I kind of want to turn away.
Like, like when I look at, look at the carpet, I'm not,
I'm not happy with the rock. I finally get it.
I was a little slow to the game. I don't like the rock. I don't like the,
I don't like all the extra shit.
You think they're getting too gimmicky?
I don't know what the word is,
but I just,
the way I've been hearing you guys describe
what a,
the way a competition should look
and what it should be,
what the athletes should be tested on
in the competition against each other.
It's,
there's too many things fucking going on.
Well, Rebecca Fuseli is the perfect
example of it, right?
She can't
excel at this
because they got the fucking ruck on her.
She should excel at this.
I hope so, but if they took that
10 pounds off her back, she would definitely excel
at this, I think.
My opinion on this is
the, okay, we're working for three minutes.
The idea is that you
want people burning through this.
So why put a weight on them?
You don't need a weight. You're not
gaining what you're wanting to get out of this by
putting the weight on them. You want these guys to go
blazing fast for three minutes and see what they can
recover in that one minute rest in between.
So don't add right.
It's kind of what Spieler said.
Muscle-ups, 20 pistols would be better.
Say it again. Sorry. Say it again, John.
Just 10 ring muscle-ups, 20 pistols.
Max burpees.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm fine with
the complex, whatever.
I think that get them moving, do the pistols.
Time-wise, when you look at the complex versus the pistols,
I don't really know how to do it.
It takes about 30 seconds to do five unbroken.
Yeah.
I would be fine with that.
I'm fine with this if you take the
ruck off because I don't think
you need it. I don't think it's needed.
It's kind of cool. I get
what they're trying to do, but then it's like
I don't know.
It's like you're complicating it for not
the right reason. I think you punish
people who
are really, really efficient with their kip.
Well, having a weight to the back definitely changes the movement.
Because then it's more muscly.
Right.
Because the more I watch it, everybody who's got that, especially girls, who have that really big swing.
Brooke's got a really big swing.
I'm scared for Katrin because she's got a really big swing. Laura has a really big swing um you know brooke's got a really big swing i'm scared for katrin
because she's got a really big swing laura has a really big swing laura horvath um it's been
punishing those like those are the girls that end up can't doing can't annie and not able to do
swing yeah but i watched annie and she was fine doing it on instagram
but but like people who have a shorter, like have not had as much of a
problem. Like I watch Nick Matthew, his kip is not very big. I did this workout and I didn't
have a problem with it. So I was shocked when people were having a problem with it. Because
obviously they're much, they should be much fitter than I am as this stuff and um it's just i think the big swingers
the big kippers are the ones who have uh problems with that and that's kind of like they're efficient
at muscle-ups they're able to do these muscles because they figured out a way to get up there
easier you know they use their momentum easier you're punishing those people like we have all
these athletes that are used to using uh the weight. Why not just go five ring muscle-ups, weight-vested?
You have your pistols, and then you do your burpee box jump-overs.
I just don't understand.
Do you just don't like the ruck?
I don't understand the purpose of it.
I mean, at least if we're doing five and it's weighted, okay,
and then you have the vest on, whatever.
I think all these athletes have done that.
And again, we're trying, I think at this particular level, we're trying to not,
I don't think this is a place where we test all the weird stuff.
That's the games.
It's the weird stuff.
That's the games.
This is too weird.
This is even too weird.
I think that we don't need to have it. It should be common stuff here.
You just want the fittest people to pass through,
not ability to adapt.
Make it heavy, make it fast,
make it whatever.
I don't know.
I mean, that's still a lot of pistols.
And they still
have to have a big burpee box jump
over that? I don't think they need it.
I'm going to pick
Colton and Vellner
for the boys.
Okay.
I've been picking those two for this event
this whole week.
Perfect.
You didn't know you had a huge influence on my life.
Literally my first and second place.
Mr. Bill.
I want to see Colton do really well on this one but you don't think but
you don't think you think there's a hiccup somewhere you think he's gonna get stuck somewhere
uh well okay what the how about over the box the points account is over the box so it's like
you know you don't you don't he doesn't get to use his short range of motion on the first part
like it doesn't count for anything.
So you really get there sooner.
True.
Not going to lie with that.
That's totally true.
But are you going to be able to get that many more of the purpose?
I don't know.
I hope he does really well in this one.
Vellner,
I think is an easy pick.
I think it's an easy pick too.
Obviously.
Nick Matthews.
Yeah. I don't even want to say Justin,
cause I think he'll be right in the mix too.
I think Nick Matthews has a good shot at this one too How about Fikowski?
I think it's going to be too long
Yeah, I don't think he'll beat those guys
But I think he'll be like 10th
I think he'll be fine because I think he'll manage his fatigue better than almost everybody
But I bet he has a game plan on this when to break up
those complexes if he needs to break up the complexes um how many does he want to do on
event one like i bet he has i want to hit 17 burpees on the first one 14 burpees in the
second one 17 on the third one i bet he has it built out to those types of numbers you know what
i mean uh and i bet he'll be able to execute every gymnastics event for the most part other than
triple g chipper he's found a way to execute to his best abilities when a lot of other people don't
and so i bet i don't think he'll beat the top people but i think he'll get like 10 through 15
and be just fine.
Yeah, I think the thing that will hurt him in this – we've seen him in Murph and we've seen him in the other ones
where it's high-volume gymnastics really affects him.
This is a short amount of gymnastics in a short amount of time,
but I still think that because of the length that he has on him
compared to some of these other athletes, he will get to the box last.
Last, you know what I mean? He'll get there slower. Then he gets to use his height on the jump. has on him compared to some of these other athletes he will get to the box last uh last
you know i mean he'll get there slower then then he then he gets to use his height on the jump
that's one time so managing that and i think he'll be very smart about that which he always is and i
like that i he would he would be one of those guys that would fit get to whatever 15 box jumps on the
first one and decide to stop before the time because like well that's my time i hit my limit i'm good and then have 15 seconds to go or something look at the madaris clan right
here who uh who b2 in this workout chandler smith or fikowski fikowski wins who do you think brian
i have to go with chandler otherwise like my pick is... I think they'll be...
Because Chandler's got some fast burpees, man.
If he decides to turn it on on the last minute, if he saves some,
I think he can get seven burpees in the time it takes everybody else to do four
on the very last minute.
When you said it was too long,
do you mean that the third round he's going to be just broken?
He's not going to be able to do the complexion? No, he's too long. He's too long. Oh, he was too long, do you mean that the third round he's going to be just broken? He's not going to be able to do the complexion?
No, he's too long.
He's too long.
Oh, he's too long.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so you think his feet will hit the ground like we saw James Sprague's feet look like they were scraping the ground?
No, like his range of motion is too long.
It will take him longer to do – he's so funny.
It will take him longer to do pistols than it would someone that's shorter than him.
Mertens will do three pistols at a time.
It takes him to do one.
Right.
Okay.
Spin, you got picks for this?
I'm going with Quant and Medeiros.
Oh, I like it.
God, it'd be great to see Quant win that.
Bill, did you pick?
There's no way Quant's going to win that.
Okay, let's go over to the ladies.
Who'd you pick, Bill?
I like Nick Williams.
I didn't do Medeiros.
I said Nick, and I said Colton.
Nick and Colton.
Colton's a heart pick for him.
A heart pick.
All right, this one will be interesting.
The women will be interesting.
What if I tell you that Katrin David's daughter...
No, what if I tell you Chyna Cho is going to be top five in this one?
I wouldn't believe you.
No.
How are Katrin's muscle-ups? I wouldn't believe you. Nah.
How are Katrin's muscle-ups?
This will be an event that we will... She theoretically should struggle.
Her past has said that she will struggle at this event.
If she gets 10th place, like you said,
what if she gets 10th place?
I think she's a shoo-in for the games.
This is one of the events that will make or break her weekend.
Scroll down.
Tell me when you guys see your winner.
Man, this is going to be a tough event.
Bethany should be really good at this event.
But I'm not going to pick her.
Okay.
How's Gazan?
How's Gazan's muscle-ups?
Fine
Ariel Owen?
Yeah, maybe
I'm gonna pick Rebecca Fusile
Gonna need it
I'm gonna pick Bailey Rayle
And Ariel Owen I'm going to pick Bailey Rayo and Ariel O'Hagan Mr. Spin
Bailey and Ariel
Lauren Fisher's been doing muscle ups for 10 years
she should kill this shouldn't she
I'd say Dark Horse Marissa, just because she's a gymnastics freak.
I don't know how much the ruck is going to affect her, but she's 4'10",
and she's going to be like a piston on the pistols.
I like that alliteration there.
Is she really 4'10"?
Yeah, she is.
She is, and her range of motion is shorter than
everybody if she's um able to do it with the rock like i don't know if she is or not but if
if she is then she could be a dark horse on this event i find her uh
you don't think emily rfe will do well on this?
I think she's going to do great on this one.
For the reason you said Fikowski.
Too long?
Yeah, I just think she'll move slower
than the rest of them on this particular thing.
This chick, Marissa Flowers,
is the one that did the sub-two-minute Fran.
She had 145 Fran.
145?. 145.
Jeez, oh man.
It was pretty legit.
It's as legit as the world records get.
It was crazy.
She's like jumping off from one leg to the other leg.
Okay, so she's special.
All right.
All right.
And she just, I mean, her and Rebecca both just did terrible.
And this is an event where they can make a statement.
I kind of see them going for it and selling their soul on this event
and not caring what happens later on because Linda's not going to be good
no matter what.
All righty.
Event number two.
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