The Sevan Podcast - Dan Purington | Affiliate Series - A Different Gym Model

Episode Date: March 27, 2024

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Oh, where are you? I'm in Brasada Ranch. It's east of Bend. Oh, up in Oregon. Yeah. Hey, thanks for doing this on your vacation. So it's early for you too. Yeah, I'm a dad and a business owner.

So early is the normal. Yeah, you know, I like the way you said that I'm a dad too, because that was one of the things I realized pretty early on having kids, you got to get up before them or else then it feels like you're chasing them the whole day. If you can get up ahead of them and like get a couple of things done, you know, like the pizza from the night before put away or pick up shoes that are around the house or read or just anything. Right. I mean, then you're like, you're quiet. Right. That too. That too. Yeah. Um, I heard about you, uh, through, uh, Chris Cooper and he said, yeah, he is a great dude, isn't he? Yeah. Yeah, he is. He's, he's everything.

Everybody thinks he is. And, um thinks he is and um he well said and he said um that you were running your um gym with a different model than a lot of people and he said hey it may it may really interest you so then i i looked at your instagram and i said wow you've really you've you've i don't know if reinvented yourself, but I, but I just like everything you're doing is, is, is home for you, Oregon. It is not. No, I'm from, I'm from rural Massachusetts. Oh, okay. And that, and that's where all this is taking place that I see on your Instagram, your gym, your training, all that stuff, your people. That that's in Portland, Oregon. Um, so we're in the kind of the South side of Portland, right down near Multnomah

Village. Okay, so that's home for you now. So you're a West Coast guy now? Correct. And were you a physician to begin with? No. So my background, so my schooling started with education in surgery when I was really young, in about 20. And that evolved into being a surgical first assistant. And I did that for many years. And then I kind of honed down and subspecialized into transplant medicine. And I did a bunch of dissection work, and then kind of the pre transplant work on the donation side of things. And then I did a lot of clinical work on that side. So throughout that process, I got a degree in neuroscience. And so I'm not a physician. The area of expertise I have is extremely small. There's very few people that get educated in that

because there's very few people that can be organ donors. And so that's, that took about 20 years of my life, um, of what, uh, where I focused all my attention. I think that the new chief marketing officer at CrossFit Inc, this lady named Jenna Haka, if I remember correctly, I think she got her degree in neuroscience from Princeton. I think I remember hearing that. Yeah, I think now you're the only two people I've ever known, or I don't know her, but the only two people I've heard of who have a degree in neuroscience. What a trip, right? The only two people I've heard of who have a degree in neuroscience. What a trip, right?

Yeah. I mean, it sounds real fancy, but, you know, it's just, it educates me in something that's obsolete 10 years later because we learn more about the brain so rapidly and we realize how little we know. So I'm obsolete now. Take me back to 19 years old that led up to what you did. You were helping with surgeries at 20. Tell me how you got it, got to that spot.

Yeah. So I, it was actually on a bat. So I come from a blue collar family. I come from a really old dairy farm in Western Massachusetts. It's the oldest one on the East coast, believe it or not still operating. And so we always worked with our hands and I got into a,

a little bit of a scuffle bet with a construction guy that I worked with and he said I would never amount to anything and I just pulled up the next thing in medicine and applied and got into it and that was the surgical first assistant program and that's really what spawned my medical career and I just turned out to absolutely love it and so I studied that and then I worked in the community hospital there for two years. And then I traveled around the country for another three and a half years, mostly working in orthopedics. So bones, muscles, tendons, trauma, things of that nature, and some pretty large institutions all the way out to Stanford.

And then then back to the East Coast at some bigger places there. And then I transitioned into being a surgical dissector for a organ donation team in Boston, which is a relatively large organization, focusing a lot more on cardiovascular and cardiac dissection. Uh, and then my wife finished up her, my wife's a lot smarter than I am. My wife finished up, uh, her PhD when we were in Boston. And then we moved to the Bay area, which is where she's originally from. We lived, uh, Walnut Creek for a while. And I took a position, um, at the transplant organization there. What's the name of the transplant organization in Walnut Creek? Uh, donor network. Okay. And then I worked in there more in a managerial role. And then I switched over to the clinical side. And the clinical side is where I really took off and

started learning a lot. And so in the clinical side, you do medical management of unstable the clinical side, you do medical management of unstable potential organ donors once the family consents. And so it's a high energy, high triage situation, which is where I really like. Kind of had our first child in the Bay and just all the things that are the Bay with, you know, a lot of traffic and cost of living and things of that nature. We started looking around. I took a position at OHSU, which is the big medical institution in Portland. Um, let's see, I've been, and she went up there with you and she went up there with you. Yeah. She's always worked remote. Um, she's, she's worked remote since, I mean, she took her first job out of, out of, uh, her PhD was of her PhD as a medical director for a pharmaceutical company in Boston.

And then from there, she switched companies and worked remote ever since. So she has the flexibility to kind of go wherever. Did she go to Northgate? Do you know what high school she went to? She went to Gilroy High. Oh, wow. Okay. So she grew up in gilroy and then ended up uh in walnut creek yeah she went to gilroy and then she went to she did her undergrad at san jose state and then she did her uh phd out in boston interesting uh gilroy's gone through

quite a bit of changes in the last 30 years but still pretty pretty, pretty rare. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Yeah, it absolutely is. Is she bilingual? Does she speak Spanish? She does. Her mother's, um, was born in Mexico. Um, she's not fluent, but mostly cause it's cause she's out of practice, but she, she speaks Spanish a lot better than I do. That's for sure. Her faith, her family can't, or it's her dad, Mexican also. No, her dad's a hundred percent German. It's her dad's six foot five, her dad's 100% German. Oh, interesting. Her dad's 6'5", and her mom's 5'3". Where did they meet, just out of curiosity? So they met, it was either in Indiana or Norfolk, because her father was in the Navy.

Okay. And I'm not sure, I think they met at Indiana University, if I remember correctly. And then they kind of went out to the military path and then came out to the Bay Area. There's this, Dan, there's this German, I think it's German. I can't remember who the guest was I had on, but there's this German tribe. And I forget what like, I don't know if sect is the right word, but they live south of the border somewhere in Mexico. They're kind of like Amish, and that's why I was wondering if – when you said her dad was German, I was like, oh, I wonder if they met through there. I wonder what that is. Maybe someone in the comments will tell us what that is. Yeah, interesting. So were her parents first generation here? They were immigrants. They came up to work in Gilroy. Her mother was. Yep.

Her mother was. So her mother was born in Mexico. Her family went back down to Mexico when her father got sick. Both of her mother's parents were right from Mexico. They went back down to Mexico. She was born in Mexico. Her father, her mother's father, so her grandfather passed away in Mexico. And then her mom came back

to the united states and they went to indiana so you know kind of central um and then um you know kind of messed around around there for a while and then she met uh greg who's um my wife's father in the military and then came out to go right after that. Hey, congratulations, by the way. You are a beautiful human being, but you also scored an incredibly, sounds like, smart and beautiful wife, and then now you guys have two beautiful kids. Yeah, we had a pretty great life. Yeah, good job. That's the way to do it.

It sure is um level up so so you get into this uh you get right you get into this um argument with a guy he talks shit to you at 19 uh basically calling you a dummy who works in a dairy farm you're like i'll fucking show you and uh you you launch off and start filling your brain with smart stuff. Yeah, there's no other story besides that. Yeah, interesting. And Jason Kalipa has a similar story. It's interesting.

When he was in high school at a senior graduation, the principal cracked a joke about him him about being a dummy. It's yeah. And it's, and it's stung and he, and he, and he's, he's like, okay, I'll show you.

And you know, as much as the ego gets a bad rap, there is a time to leverage the ego. Yeah. See, I, I, I love the ego in that regard.

And, and you gotta, you have to, you know, run the fine line of being like, well, you're a dick or you're just trying to get what you know that you're capable of. I mean, you've got to have something that's internal that's motivating you. So I don't mind that. I mean, I have a similar thing there.

My guidance counselor, I remember sitting down in her office when I was a senior in high school. And I still remember her name. She said, Dan, some kids just aren't meant to go to college. Yeah. And it was just like – I had to call the professor to tell me that. Watch this. Yeah.

I had no idea what I was going to do or nothing. I just knew that I could figure things out. Matt Souza, the guy, the executive producer of this show, he also has a similar story. I'd like to hear it in more detail sometime, but basically people saying he's never going to amount to anything. He basically belongs on the yellow bus. And then he said that made him really insecure. And when he opened his first CrossFit gym, he didn't want to get caught off guard not knowing about business. So he consumed 100 business books. And they stuck.

He realized, oh, that's actually my calling. This information is sticky. Yeah, it's super cool when that happens. So we just pulled my daughter out of public school. And she's in a private school. That's a STEM based school. So it's much more hands-on arts focused things of that nature because the, the education kids get in, it just kind of puts them in pockets. Like this is the only way to do it. And, and when you,

when you have that ability to be creative and the way you learn, it doesn't matter if you're eight, like my oldest or 43, like me, once you figure out how you learn, if you have the ego and the confidence that I'm going to go against conventional style and I'm still going to be successful, I think that's super powerful. Was there a specific incident that happened that had you make the switch with your daughter? Well, without going down the rabbit hole of Portland politics, um, the, the, our school, so we're in the PPS school system and they were on a entire month strike for the entire month of November. So our kids did not step foot in the school of 2023. Yeah. And then, um, they started to try to make up some difference and taken, they took out the

first week of vacation, which everybody had already had stuff planned. And then we had that big ice storm somewhere in January and our, my daughter's school hasn't been updated in forever. I don't want to misquote it, but in excess of 30 years and they burst some pipes and a whole bunch of asbestos went all over the school and so they closed that school completely and and you know my my kids in second grade and there was 100 kids in that class and you know housing k through six so simple math tells you it's at least 600 kids that they dispersed between all the other schools so they were already overpopulated and then they had no idea when they were potentially going to open that school. And at that stage, we were like, okay, we just cannot

have this, this inconsistency. She'd essentially been in school six or eight weeks for the first two quarters of the school. And so we needed to make the investment. And it was, it has been the best investment. it's the best decision i've ever made as a parent is putting her in this school isn't it isn't it fascinating my um i've spent uh many hours on this show um slamming uh the state of oregon especially the portland school system and and the california school system it is it i mean it's abusive it's almost like if you hate your kids you leave them in school but um we pulled our kid out after one year so basically basically the um covid happened and we saw the way they were treating the kid and then when we back, there were all sorts of that George Floyd had happened.

And so all sorts of weird social policy started getting in place that were inappropriate for second graders, first graders, anyone, anyone just in school, period. Like there were just all sorts of things being talked about that were being projected onto these kids. That was like completely inappropriate shit that maybe their parents should be talking about or the things that should happen naturally in a kid's life and so whether it was the uh yeah we pulled them out and dude a hundred percent the greatest thing we ever did and and my two youngest kids have never went to school and there some really, I know that they're sort of biased narratives, but people are having kids. And then for the first 15, no, 18 years of their life, sending them to be put behind chain link fences for nine hours a day. And I know that's a pretty biased and simplistic view. But when I drive by these schools with my kids, that's what I see.

I see kids behind chain link fences. And I'm like, wow. Yeah, it's the greatest thing. Yeah, we're really grateful that we have the financial means to be able to do it and the wherewithal and the timing was great. Did you have to give anything up when you say you had the financial means? Did you have to give anything up? When you say you had the financial means, did you have to give anything up? Did you have to change things? I gave up coaching a little bit so that we could make sure that, because we have to drop her off at school now. And that drop off is a little larger. But as far as like, I still get my coffee in the morning, if that's what you're talking about. We're pretty frugal with our money in the sense of we don't buy a lot of

things outside of experiences so my house isn't full of like a bunch of junk we we we buy experiences so for that when that happened we were we're replaced and to be honest i mean we were been paying daycare for the last years it's already it's like all right well it's just gonna go in perpetuity or at least for the next eight years and you have a younger son also i do yeah my son cole is about four and a half uh he'll correct me four nine months and what are you gonna do what what's the plan for him to go to the same school as the as the yeah he's he's already the application's already submitted we our 60-day notice is given so we'll transition him, uh, in June or July. So he won't, um, he won't come into the PPS school system. And it's, it's just the right thing for our family. You know, we, um, we recognize that and, and, and we're so, so happy that we're able to, to provide that for, for our kids in this situation.

Hey, this, this notion that you said where you and your wife buy experiences, that's cool that you see eye to eye on that, right? Yeah. We're, that's what makes relationships work. It's the best relationship I've ever had. Like in my entire life, it's, we, uh, our relationship was very fast tracked. I mean, we were living together within a couple of months. Um, and then, um, you know, we were married shortly thereafter. I don't, I mean, we both are, are not so great with important dates like that. But we've been married for, I think it's 13 years this year, 13 or 14 years. And we don't have disagreements about money.

We've always had the same bank account, even back when we were just dating. And we've always invested in experiences. And really, to be honest, that's it. And it's just continued once we had kids. So once we had kids. So once we had kids, instead of traveling all over the world, we bought a camper van. And so now we travel all over the place. We don't, we don't ever, we don't ever fly to California anymore.

We just drive. So my, my kids and my wife are going to, um, Martinez. I'm headed to Vegas for a business conference with Two Brain on Wednesday. They're going to drive down to California in the camper van. And then I'll fly in to meet them after the conference for the weekend. And then we'll drive back. I mean, so we just invested in, you know, a vessel that allows us to take everything in our puppy and their bikes. And that's just what we do.

So we spend most weekends out at the mountain or up in Washington or out at the coast. We just continue to do that instead of by, you know, some people like material things. We like experiences. I grew up in Martinez. I grew up in Pacheco, the city right next to it. Pacheco. Yeah. And my mom was an attorney.

Martinez is the county seat for Contra Costa County. So she worked in Martinez for years. What's your wife doing down there? So her sister lives in Martinez, her sister and their family live in Martinez. And then she's got another sister and her parents live down in Los Banos down there. I've been to, uh, uh, the weightlifters gym a few times. Uh, Oh, Oh, Graciano's. Yeah. Yeah. I've chatted with him a couple of times. Um, and so we go down to, to the Bay area, you know, four or five times a year. Wow. What a small world. Yeah. Um, this, uh, this career you had as a, farmer and then fast-tracked through school and then into neuroscience and then specifically around transplants. You did that for how many years?

Until. Were you in that business for 20 years? Yeah. How many years were you in that business? 20 years? Yeah. So let's see. I started in the OR when I was 22. That was my first clinical.

And then I was specifically focused in organ donation into transplantation from 27 to about 40. I still do some consulting with the local company, more around operations, not surgical operations, but operations and systems. But right up till I was 40, the latter part of my career there, I spent building kind of education criteria and educating a lot of the new, uh, clinical staff coming in with, for the company. Um, and so, yeah, long, long time. So 13 years in organ donation specifically. Hey, okay. Organ donations. Um, but can you basically, you can transplant anything, right? I mean, I don't hear about the brain being transplanted, but like. Yeah, I mean, they'll try anything now, right? Yeah, I mean, and it depends like what they're transplanting it for.

But as far as like solid organs, like some solid organs are not going to transfer. They're not going to transplant a spleen, for instance. And what's the deal with the spleen? Why not a spleen? What's the spleen? You don't need it nearly as it's not a vital organ per se. Now that doesn't mean that you want to go messing around with it because it's hypervascular. So, you know, crazy things can happen and there are other physiological things that can happen with it, but you don't necessarily need it to live. Just like you only need one kidney to live, right? You only need one lung.

You can live with half a liver, like things of that nature. And so it kind of depends if you're talking about whole organ or if you're talking about, you know, an ACL graph or a skin graph or a corneal graph, or there's, you know, there's, you can, you can do all sorts of things. What about eyeballs? Has an eyeball ever been transplanted? Yeah. So that's the corneal graph where they'll, we'll, you know, you'll take the cornea out of the, of the eye. That's they, it's the most common, it's probably the most common, um, asystolic recovery. So once the patient has passed and there's no longer a heartbeat, whether it be, you know, medically stabilized or stabilized or you know on their own stabilized um corneas are definitely the most common thing recovered what about a tongue that'd probably be kind of hard just because of all the sensation

and the mucous membranes i mean you could do it but it'd probably be like a piece of leather in your mouth and not functioning and not and it's interesting too because i i guess i guess like the tongue and the penis and there's just certain things that just don't get chopped off or need transplanting right like i got under like i'm trying i like i mean how often do you hear someone bit off their tongue or had their penis chopped off and they need a new one so i I guess those aren't even in high demand. I guess just based on the economics and capitalism, I am not struggling at all. I'm not struggling.

What are you talking about? I'm fully enjoying this. I'm struggling because I want to talk about CrossFit, but I'm so fascinated by the transplant thing don't ever don't ever tell me i'm struggling there's um yeah i guess by capitalism and by demand it's the or it's the things that are going to be in the highest demand that they're going to transplant the most yeah i mean a lot of the most experience and success would be or failure. Yeah. I mean, insurance is obviously going to play a big role in that in the sense of like, you know, you can also, it's, it's the ability to increase that person's quality of life quicker.

And so insurance can, can help out with that regard. You know, for instance, like, you know, someone can live on dialysis if their kidneys aren't working, it sucks, but they can do that. It doesn't work with the liver that way. It, you can with a heart and a lung, but the, the, the, the perfusion side of that thing is an awesome and success rate is awesome. So it's like, it kind of depends, um, where that is and, and where, like what, what challenges the patient has. Um, when did you get into, um, uh, fitness in your own health and moving? Did you play sports as a kid?

Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I played sports as long as I've known. I was a really small kid in high school, tall and gangly. Um, and, uh, I played sports all through high school and then I played relatively competitive football um for a good bit uh out of high school while excuse me while I was in college um and then after that um I kind of had a little bit of a void you know and so I started doing a lot of ultra running so you know bigger mountain distance which I really enjoyed and so I started doing a lot of ultra running. So, you know, bigger mountain distance, which I really enjoyed. And then I stumbled into a CrossFit gym in the Bay area of all places, um, in a rock climbing gym. Um, it's, Oh, let me, was it in Emeryville or Albany that one? No. So it was the one, I think the person in Emeryville had started the one it's so it's with, uh, Diablo rock gym.

Okay. Is that in Oakland? Where is that? That one is in, um, Concord. Okay. I don't know.

And, uh, we just walked in there looking, um, just looking at the gym and it was really, really small with my wife and I, uh, we met rock climbing.

So we're big rock climbers. Um, and I just stumbled out and met who turned out to be a good buddy of mine, Chris. And he's like, Hey, why don't you just try this thing's CrossFit? And like, sure. And it showed up the next day and kind of your typical story where I did a Curtis P complex with maybe some burpees and running or something like that. And it just, I was really like, I'm like, I'm in the pinnacle of shape and it just i i was really like i'm like i'm in the pinnacle of shape and it just crushed me and then a couple days later i did cindy and i was like whatever

this is gonna be fine and it wasn't fine and that was it that was like all right this is what i'm doing for for the rest of my fitness world uh curtis 105 pounds for men 70 pounds for women curtis complex is compromised of one power clean one one lunge, each leg, and one push press. Wow, I never even heard of that workout. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, we were doing the Curtis. So we didn't do the full thing we did.

I remember it was like four Curtis piece. So it was the power clean, lunge, lunge, push press. Then it was some burpees. And then it was a 100-meter run. And then you came back and did it again. I think it was like an 18-minute AMRAP. It was a while ago ago you do the lunge with in the front rack you do the lunge in the front yeah yeah yeah that's the hard part that lunge gets heavy yeah i bet like real heavy what did your wife think when you started that when you did that? Did she like it? Um, yeah, I mean, she, my wife is, is super, super, just a

wonderful human and, and anything that puts a smile on my face, she's like, go get it. You know, just so it was awesome. She, um, she didn't actually get into CrossFit, believe it or not, until she was postpartum with our first child. She went to that CrossFit gym and didn't have a great experience because the coaching was pretty terrible. And to really fast forward, I was training a bunch of clinical staff in my garage just because most, I don't want to generalize, but a lot of people in medicine don't prioritize their health the way they should. And so I just started training a bunch of people in my garage, just six o'clock, a couple mornings a week, and we just started training. And then my wife started training with us postpartum, and she really liked it. And then

I pulled the trigger and decided to resign from a full time position at the hospital and open up the gym. And then she really started training. and she's a way better athlete than I am. Um, even though she started significantly later in her fitness endeavors. Um, but she loves it now. You were living in Portland at the time that happened? Southern Portland? Interesting. Uh, okay. So you get introduced to Cross, uh, CrossFit. You didn't have kids. You were at a rock climbing gym. And then from there, you just start incorporating regularly into your training. But at that time, you're also doing long runs, 50K runs, and you're training as a runner. And tell me about how this group started in your garage. You started working out in your garage. And where were you getting your programming from? Were you getting it from.com or programming it yourself? I was programming myself. So I did my L1 shortly after I, I started CrossFit in the Bay.

I didn't know Sacramento. Adrian Bosman was the flow master, I think. And then Katie Hogan was, was one of the coaches up there. Do you remember the year, Dan? Oh, 2000. It's either 2013 or 2014. Okay. And so I started coaching at that gym in the Bay just briefly.

And then we came to Portland when I took that position up at OHSU. And I was in the hospital one night. So with donation call, you're on call for 24 hours. And if you're on first call, you're going to be in the hospital. And the way that works is we cover every hospital in Oregon, Southwest Washington, and the Boise area. So you have a huge service area. So you get to know your counterpart because there's a clinical person and then there's a family support person. And I was sitting in a hospital in Southern Washington talking to someone who was just like, you know, my, my fitness and my health has gone to garbage. I'm 36 or 37 years old. I'm not into bootcamps and I'm not into this. I'm not into that. I was like,

great. Come, come to the garage. And, and I had a very small small setup there i didn't have a gym at that time and i was like just come and then she started kind of talking about what we were doing to the other people on staff and then we had two and then we had three and then my neighbor came over and then one of the staff's nanny came over and all of a sudden we had five people in the garage and we were training four or five days a week just doing normal CrossFit stuff. I put them on some progressive overload for some weightlifting because it was all women and they had never touched a barbell. And we did that for – Wow, that's fascinating that it was all women.

Like a good year. Yeah, all women. And my gym currently is more women than men. currently is is more women than men what is that what is there's got to be a stereotype there or a something there that women are more open to the group class or more open to trying something new or what do you think that is is there some sort of like yeah i think they're more coachable more coachable okay yeah i think they're more i think goes back to our first conversation around ego yeah be completely honest like women are like i don't know how to do this great i'm gonna find somebody who shows me how and men were like i'm not asking for directions fuck that i'm gonna

wait until you know i get super lost and then i'll ask right so i think that's what it is women are smarter than us and and your wife sees all this going on in the garage yeah yeah and she you know my my uh my daughter would come out she was one at that time or one and a half and she'd come out and, you know, all the ladies loved her. And so it was kind of just this family thing. And, uh, and then it just evolved. So you're doing that. And, um, in the, in the, the transplant thing, just what exactly did you do? So you would be somewhere and someone be like okay we have a

heart coming in and then the and then you work with the person who knows families who needs heart so then they call the family and then those people come together and then the surgeons come in and they switch out the heart and you're on call 24 hours a day but you're what are like specifically what do you do are you the caretaker of the heart in between when it's taken out of one dude and putting another dude uh no so essentially what on my side is we get a call from somebody that's in the hospital that has sustained what is suspected to be a non-survivable neurological injury um and so then we come in and we do a quick medical clinical evaluation based on stability and based on past medical history of that patient.

If that's a crazy job determining whether someone's going to be dead or not. Wow. And then we we so we determine whether the organs are going to be viable. And then we take the information the hospital is giving us like, yes, we'll continue to follow this patient or no, we won't. If the patient progresses, there's two ways you can do organ donation. One is brain death, like clinical legal brain death. And that's when the hospital staff comes in, the attending physician who's completely separate from the organ donation process comes in. They do a host of tests that show that there's no longer function in the brainstem and it'll never come back. So essentially the blood supply has been cut off from the brainstem and it's no longer viable regardless of what happens. They're clinically diagnosed as

brain death. There's another one that I'm not going to go into. At that stage, our family team comes in and has a conversation with the family. My job is to keep that patient stable because the brainstem is no longer controlling homeostasis. So I am playing brainstem without letting the rest of the body know through different, you know, pharmaceuticals or interventions or things of that nature while we're concurrently analyzing the information we're getting and then providing it to the surgical teams that might be interested as well as facilitating the logistics of do we have an in-house patient

or is this patient somewhere else? That progresses along and now we start doing this match algorithm where it's like, okay, the kidney is going to go here and the heart is going to go here based on criteria that's separate from our organization or from any procurement organization. And then you coordinate the surgical teams coming in. Set up the operating room.

Then we go in, we run the OR essentially. We're the flight path folks. So we're in charge of there. And then once the organ comes out, it's no longer in our hands. Then it goes, the surgical teams take it with them and then they go do the transplant. And so I've done everything from the clinical evaluation, medical management to actually being on the surgical side where I'm assisting, helping the heart come out or assisting with the liver or things of that nature. Um, Hey, your job seems, and you're retired from that. Um, currently I am. Yeah. It seems like it would be like you would be in high demand. Like there's not a lot of use dance. It doesn't, it, I could throw a resume out and get offers in a week.

When I applied to OHSU, I submitted my application, and I got a phone call in six hours. I guess pulling the organ out is really important to the success, right? You can't cut any of the tubes short, right? Any of the wires short, like you send a heart and you snip something off too short. And they're like, dude, you ever had some crazy shit like that happen? Like that, the heart gets there and they're like, dude, you damaged the aorta or, or just some shit goes sideways. Yeah. More often than not, it's going to happen with more of an abdominal uh an abdominal organ um where i mean you know it's medicine is an imperfect science right and it's still being done by human hands and and and the human body doesn't look like a textbook right so you know there there can be

there can be things like oh shit like i just didn't see that or whatever that said the people that are taking these out that are the final eyes, the final say, and the ones holding the cutting device are educated to the nines, if you will. So it's a very rare occurrence that it happens. When you're dealing with thoracic organs, so heart and lung, 95% of the time, the transplanting team is sending their own recovery team because they want to have hands-on they want to do specific tests within the operating room to make sure that organ is going to be a good fit um okay for what for what they're doing so there's a lot that goes on behind the curtain that it's just such a such a's such a niche. Um, you know,

it's one of those things that nobody, nobody knows about. And then, so, so you have these six people in your gym and then you're, um, uh, doing this thing with, uh, keeping people, uh, you know, their organs safe until they're harvested. And is that a bad word harvested in your business? No, no, that's, that's why we, uh, procured harvested. Is that a bad word, harvested, in your business? No, no, that's why we – procured, harvested. Okay, I'll use procured. Harvested seems like tabloid stuff, like horror movie shit, until they're procured. And at some point, these two cross paths to where only one is sustainable or you choose you choose hey i'm just

going to coach full-time yeah i mean another kind of just kind of serendipitous um i had uh i had gone down to being more of a contract employee at the hospital just because we had had a second child on the way um and and medicine in and of itself, this, the schedules are brutal. And when you're on a triage call like that, it just kicks the crap out of you. You know, you're, you're working 24, 36 hours without sleep in this specific area. It's, it can be pretty brutal. And that was just starting to kind of take a toll. Um, and so I went down to a contract so I could control my schedule.

And then I started working on the education stuff. And I was at a, so similar to Sousa, where I studied business for about a year before I opened my business. That's when I found, so I found Chris Cooper listening to your podcast at HQ. I was either the first or second one that you did. And I was, that's when I was considering opening a gym. So I bought his book. I, uh, I can't remember. It's the white one with the green and yellow letters on it. Um, and then I started learning about the fitness business and more so business there, um, for a year before I even conceived the idea of, um, of opening. So I, I didn't, I just liked CrossFit and I liked fitness

and I was always intimidated by business because I'd never learned about it. So I just started learning about it. And that's how I, that's why I went into neuroscience. I didn't know anything about neuroscience. Like, ah, well, I'll learn it here. Um, that's the one right there. Yep. Okay. Here comes the tough, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. Nope. Go. Okay. Here comes the tough. Go ahead. Yeah. Go ahead. Nope. Go.

Here comes the tough question. Uh-oh. Did you become numb to death and are children difficult when children come in? Yeah. Yeah. So you do, we call it you're kind of dead inside um amongst the the few people it is a very hard job to do is a high high attrition rate um kids are extremely difficult um especially kids that are like in that 6 to 15 range like infants when kids are like you know four five six and up to 15 they have

personalities they have life they have it's just it's just very very very hard and the families are are there and oftentimes they have siblings and and those are tough um those are the ones that you you know that you remember and you need that this this type of work needs to have a structured debriefing um uh situation or structured debriefing protocol because it can be really tough and you you essentially internalize a lot of things um and you lean on your your team to help with that. But yeah, kids are real tough. They're real tough. I have this model and understanding of the universe that we're just mirrors here, mirroring each other, that there's this really weird thing going on. And that's why it's so important that we're good examples to each other.

And so I'm guessing it's like the first time i saw i saw a dracula movie where a guy had to turn into dracula in order to save his son and it was probably a pretty it was called dracula untold and it was probably a really stupid movie but i had just had a kid a boy and he was one year old and i i wept through the entire movie because i started picturing myself as that dad. It was so bizarre. So I'm guessing that's kind of, I'm guessing that's the hard part, right? Every time you see someone, you, you're, you, if you have, if you're empathizing that that's you or that's your kid, I'm guessing that, is that the origin of the discomfort of the pain?

Yeah. I mean, that's, it's just empathy it's just like yeah and that's not programmed to want to see anything that like you're seeing a kid at the table and you're like that's my son and then from there it's just a spiral and that's the thing is like the empathy crosses over into sympathy and that's where you can't go like you can't you can't come into sympathy in that regard like you cannot put yourself in someone else's shoes. Like you have to be able to say, I'm, I'm, you know,

I'm very sorry for, for your loss and, and, and whatnot, and be able to separate the emotion. And when your emotion really gets involved, that's when we start to get into the sympathy side of things. And that's what happens with kids.

Did you cry a lot at that job? Uh, I don't know if that was a lot, but it certainly, and I i i remember i probably could name every single kid case i ever had involved oh wow yeah i i mean having a good memory sucks i i could forget that quick probably because i have a horrible memory but that's tough wow I could forget that shit quick probably because I have a horrible memory, but that's tough. Wow.

Yeah. I mean, and you just – it's just one of those – it's like glue. Like it just sticks. I mean, I don't think about it in a negative way, but it definitely sticks there. Yeah. And what's bizarre about it too is intellectually it can be explained. There's, um, the, it's always, it's not like war. Um, it, everything's a net benefit, but it's still just seeing, um, I think yourself part, you know, we're all part of this thing, humanity thing,

and somehow we're all connected and somehow you're seeing that and you're owning it. Right. But it's not like you didn't do it. You didn't hurt the kid. You're what you're doing is helping people, but yet still it's crazy powerful what's happening. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's a, it's a, it's an experience. It's a, it's a tough thing to, to explain. That's one of the reasons I think the, the, the two positions have such a high attrition rate is like, go ahead and try to do a job interview there and explain actually what's happening, like what's going to happen and what you're going to feel. And like,

you know, that's, it's, it's not uncommon to get through, you know, the, the training interval with someone and then have them leave. Cause you just,

it's hard to articulate and it's hard to predict how you're going to feel when the first time that you are involved in something like that. You have a gym now. I do. Yep. and is it an affiliate or is it just a gym yep i have an affiliate um we have so we're our our llc name is woods on fitness and we have a do business as as crossfit woods on woods long woods on yep it's the name of my uh my 11th generation dairy farm on the west coast on the east coast oh what a trip is that someone's last name no uh it's a it's a name that you know forever ago got got uh got picked out by one of my four grandfathers. Oh, so when you say it's the oldest dairy farm, does your family own it? Yeah, my dad and my mom still operate it with my two brothers.

So everybody, I have four other siblings, and they all live within five miles of the homestead. But two of my siblings live on the homestead in their own homes that they've built. And so it's 217, 84 is when we homesteaded. So however long that is. And so it's still operating. It probably won't operate much longer as a dairy just because small business dairy gets crushed. And it's, it's a hard thing.

My father's just a, is a very savvy businessman, self-taught of course. Um, and, uh, and so that's how they've been able to go for so long. You ever drink milk just right out of the. Oh, as a kid. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. And is that good? Yeah. It's warm. It's weird. Um, but. I imagine it to be fantastic like just really creamy hey when did your family come here dan and where did they come from is there any shit on the farm where you can be like oh my god that's my great grandfather put

that scratch on that my great grandfather the the stone that um has the 1784 engraved in it is still the stepping stone to walk into the house oh that's crazy yeah yeah and it's like this square so that how the white house there that's still there in full capacity it's been renovated but it still looks exactly like that i mean exactly that tree is still there like the it looks exactly like that the tree up against the house is not i got hit by a lightning storm 30 years ago but um everything's still there and um where did they come from do they do you know the story of how your family where your family came from they came on a boat right i mean obviously yeah yeah i mean my my family is is welsh mostly um but i i'm not sure of the exact pathway they've been here for so long

that we mostly talk about how long they've been here crazy okay so so you have this gym going and in your garage and then um and then you're and you've been doing your job for a long time and you're obviously really good at it and it's in high demand and then there and then you're and you've been doing your job for a long time and you're obviously really good at it and it's in high demand and then there's there has to be a decision made like something creeps into your brain where you're like hey i have to make a decision here yep i'm gonna fault chris cooper on that as well again i went to a summit gathering in washington and he had a representative of two brain there and gave a speech. It was a great speech. And a guy by the name of Jay, he owns a gym in California somewhere. And I had just accepted a full-time education

director position at the hospital like a week ago. And I was concurrently going to open up the CrossFit gym. And it was a, you know, mid-level, 106 figures with great benefits and everything and i i walked out of the after jace spoke i walked out of the summit i called up the director and i said i can't accept this position i rescind my acceptance and he was shocked and to be honest so was i was like what the hell am I doing? Did you already have your location for your affiliate somewhere already picked out and the space rented? I had it all picked out. I was just going to do it part-time.

Jay was talking about stuff. I talked to a couple of other pretty great people there. I just felt that if I was going to give this a go, that I needed to give it a go. Yeah. And so I rescinded on my, and I called my wife and I was like, this is what I'm thinking. And she's like, just do it. Do you remember, did Jay say something like, hey, you won't be successful if you go in half-assed? Or was there something specific he said that was like, it's like building, building and then pushed it over the edge. Yeah. I mean, he, he tells a story about fear, um, and, and overcoming it. And I can't remember the specifics

of it. And there was a couple other people that I had talked to one of my first mentors who, uh, used to own a CrossFit gym in Portland. She had always said that she's like, if you won't, if you work at this, this facility halftime, you'll have a halftime business. And I don't do anything halftime. That's just not how I work. This is just kind of a combination of that. And then, um, I am, I act on feeling I'm not a planner. I, I, uh, it's why I work well in triage medicine as I, I, I act a lot on feeling. And I just, it was just a feeling of like, okay, this is, uh, this isn't the right time to do it, but never is. And so I knew I needed to make some space and I knew that full-time position wasn't going to allow me to make the space.'t it kind of a trippy there's almost a paradox there um you don't do anything halfway but you

also act on feeling because you would think that the person who doesn't do anything halfway has like okay here's the list of pros here's the list of cons here's the 27 steps yeah yeah very interesting that you accommodate both of those inside of you as navigational tools. Did you plan your kids? Yeah. Yeah. You did plan your kids. So you knew that you wanted to have kids. Yeah, we sure did. Yeah, it was. And we waited a little bit. We were a little bit. I mean, we're older when we got married, but we were in I think I was 30 ish. when we got married but we were in i think i was 30 ish yeah 29 and then we traveled for a while but we knew within a you know four to five year mark of when we got married we wanted to have kids um so yeah absolutely okay they were planned all right okay so um you how many clients did you have

when you when you hold on sorry one more thing i wanted to ask uh going back to your level one when you took your so you're really smart guy to ask uh going back to your level one when you took your so you're really smart guy you've gone to a lot you've done a lot of schooling you've also seen um the the operation that that that is this farm this amazing farm dairy farm when you take your level one um what what was your impression it was a really great really great experience the the one thing and i wrote i wrote hq at that time was like the one thing is crossfit and my understanding at the time was the foundationally was nutrition like you know off the couch off the carbs and the nutrition component was lacking and

so i had a conversation with with the people that were there, um, about like, Hey, movement is awesome. This is it. But the nutrition component is, is missing outside of that. It was, was it missing or lacking? Cause they do do like, you know, that's, they do like, they do like an hour on it. Right. But what you're saying is, is like, Hey dude, if it's going to be the foundation, it needs more. Yeah. I mean, when it comes in, if you've got somebody that's metabolically sick, right. They've got, you know, a whole host of comorbidities, whether it be cardiovascular disease or diabetes too, or, or, you know, pick your, pick your metabolic disease. Yeah. We can get them moving, but what's going to get them better quick is fixing their shitty nutrition.

And that's going to compounds way faster. Like I've got you for an hour, maybe 90 minutes a day. And you are now out in the real world for 22 hours and you're going to eat multiple times. So if I'm going to educate you, you know, where is the best bang for my buck when it comes to, you know, a population like that? And obviously doing it concurrently is fantastic. I remember you had a gentleman on your podcast that talked about putting people on bikes and educating them in nutrition concurrently. This was several years ago. He's an older gentleman from Chicago. Super interesting guy. And that's an interesting thought where it's like, I'm doubling up where I'm educating people on the impacts of food and how to, to be honest, I think the first thing is just helping people identify what real food is and then helping

people identify what a carbohydrate of, you know, a protein and a fat is, and then what my plate should look like. And just hitting repeat on that. Because it's like, it seems simple. But then when you look at somebody's plate, when you are at a restaurant or a hospital cafe or, or, or whatnot, you're like, what do you not realize that, you know, and I, to be honest, I, I mean, this would, with the utmost respect, but it's just ignorance. People just don't know what it is. Yeah. And so I don't fault people for not knowing.

Now, a little bit worse than ignorance. It's ignorance. They're willing to defend. Unfortunately, we have a lot of that in society, right? Yeah. That's like I'm going to defend my ignorance, but it is ignorance. But they're but they're man, they're willing to defend it at all costs. Yeah. Yeah. And so I think that would be the only thing that I and I haven't done it. No one did my L2 after that. And so I haven that would be the only thing that I, and I haven't done an L1, um, did my L2 after that. And so I haven't done an L1 since, but that would be the only thing that, that I would say.

But other than that, it was amazing. It was, it was, um, just the, the small little pieces that we broke everything down into and the flow and the, the, the capacity that the L1 instructors had to work to perfect movement. And yeah, it was just a really amazing experience. I wholeheartedly enjoyed that. Greg comes on Wednesdays. I'm going to press him. Caleb, let's ask Greg what happened to the nutrition seminar.

I mean, I have my own story. I was there. But basically, there was a falling out between Rob Wolf and CrossFit. And Rob was the one who I think who was sort of in charge and spearheading the nutrition seminar. And I think it was very successful and very popular. And then there was a budding of heads. And then it fell away and it never came back. And I know Dave and Nicole for years wanted to bring it back.

and it never came back. And I know Dave and Nicole for years wanted to bring it back, but it never was up to snuff to what Greg wanted it to be. But you're right. It is a complete... I was going to say tragedy. I'll spin it another way.

It's a complete... There's a huge opportunity. It's a missed opportunity. Yeah, 100%. And it's still there. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, let's's still there. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

Yeah. Let's find out. We'll ask Greg to give us the juicy details of that and where he thinks it should have been fixed and if it needs to be fixed. Yeah, that's good. Okay. job, um, uh, facilitating, uh, or, or more specifically, like you were saying, maintaining people until that their organs can be, um, pure procured and also your gym, you're at the same point, ready to start your gym. And when you were thinking about starting your gym, did you think of it as a business or as a passion project? So that is where I'm fortunate is I thought of it as a business right from the get go in that

my end all goal was not to be the best coach in the business. My end all goal was to be the best business owner. Like I'm not the best coach in my business now. I'm not the best programmer. I'm not the best nutrition coach. I'm not the best operations manager. And so that's, that's the goal. Like I, since opening my gym, I haven't got a single fitness certification and I've spent well North of $60,000 in business education over the last six years. Wow. Because that's my job. Okay. Like my job is to, if I want to support the 160 or 170 members, as well as the eight coaches in my business, my job is to, if I want to support the 160 or 170 members, as well as the eight coaches in my business, my job is to make sure that those doors open up every day. And we do so without,

without a hiccup. And so in the beginning, like all CrossFit gym owners, I was coaching 22, 25 classes a day, mopping the floor, showing up at four. What year, Dan, what year did it open? 2018. Okay. 2018. Let me see. Tough year. Tough year.

Tough year. Oh, so we were open one year and then COVID hit like, you know, shortly thereafter. Cause we opened in December of 2018. We had the full year of 2019. And then COVID hit when we were on vacation in in um palm springs um and uh we came back and was like oh shit and then you know california got hit hard portland got crushed yeah basically you you guys weren't even allowed you guys had to uh wear masks

uh i mean yeah you had the most the craziest rules the most draconian right i mean in indoor mask mandate until march of 2022 i'm not kidding and but that but that's that's how i fucking crazy it it was a challenge um and we, you have to know your environment too, right? Like, um, we knew that we weren't going to change the local mandates and I took my, my building is not meant for CrossFit. It was a real estate office or something like that. Super low drop ceilings, just garbage. We had to carve them all out.

Um, but I took it because I had 28 parking spots and parking spaces similar to the bay in Portland are very hard to come by. And did you learn that through your business? That's business think. Yeah. Parking spots are more important than ceiling height. Yeah. Okay. Yep. And I was like, well, I'll justify the ceiling height to get 28 parking spots. And that paid dividends because I built a complete outside facility, full pull-up bars, squat racks mounted to the sidewalks, all matted, the whole thing. So I built about 1,800 square feet of outside with no walls because the way the mandates were arbitrarily written and very, very cloudily written, you could train outdoors, but they didn't give any specification. And so we were back at my space six or eight weeks into the

first lockdown, but we just put people in parking spaces. So we put cones across, didn't let anybody park in the parking lot. And we said, you go every other parking space. And we had some big steel carts built that we just wheeled out and everybody took their equipment and they went over to their parking space because we have a, we're visible from a, from a roadway. And we just can operate like that. How about the weather? Yeah. So that's why we had it. So we started with a boat tent, a big one, like a, you know, 50 footer and that just got hammered. And then we started, we tried another thing and that didn't work. And then I talked to the landlord, um, who I started a legends program,

a 65 plus program. That was the second program I ever started. I started like three weeks into the gym opening. He and his wife joined that program. They're both north of 85. And so I had developed an amazing relationship with a landlord from week three of having my business. And he had a builder pretty much on retainer. And we constructed the outside facility about 10 months into COVID, the first one, the first facility. And then we just continued to build upon that. So we've got 12-foot open-ended space there with pull-up bars. Is that still there? Oh, yeah. We use it every day. My members, they'd quit if I didn't let them work out.

Oh, yeah, we work out outside. And it doesn't matter if it's 20 degrees and snowing. That's who we are. That's what we do. Do we have a picture of that? If you go to the Woods Lawn Fitness one, you'll scroll through and you'll see. We hopped on a bunch of affiliate calls in the beginning. Where do people park?

In the parking lot. So I took up seven spots, and then we just park in the parking lot so i took okay yeah yeah i took up seven spots and then we just park on the lawn um we were told in the beginning that we couldn't do it so we we were on this affiliate gathering uh randy who owns uh three four six grit out in gresham's amazing advocate for crossfit and he started an affiliate conversation within the portland area right when the lockdowns and And I remember saying, we're just going to work out outside. And within that group, people like you just, you're not going to be able to sustain for the weather. And it was just like, screw it.

Like we're going to, that's nice. Wow. There's a way about it. There's a bunch of really good pictures in there of like seeing the whole length of it. Yeah. The wall ball targets, everything outside. We just ran a competition there two days ago, an in-house competition that we do for our members. Is your building detached? Are you attached to any other businesses? Yeah, we're attached to a plaid pantry, which is like a 7-Eleven. And then there's two Verizon and a wireless house,

some of their servers there. And then that's attached to a bar. And then we share Alcove with Papa Murphy's pizza. So we're in a, we're in a shopping complex. Do they like you? Yeah. Yeah.

We have a great relationship in the beginning. We didn't like my, my building was vacant and it was in a kind of a back parking area. My building was vacant for about two and a half years. There was a lot of drug trafficking, a lot of prostitution, a lot of just shit going on back there. I don't know if you know much about the Broken Windows Project, but essentially, I just cleaned

the parking lot every day. And I asked people to leave every day. And we did that ad nauseum. And I just confronted people that were doing things that we didn't want them to do. And so we cleaned up that back parking lot and just the general area just by being nice, but also being like, Hey, this isn't the place to do this anymore. The amount of just garbage and broken glass and needles and all sorts of shit that we used to clean up. And it just worked. We were just, we, cause at that stage, the Portland police weren't really allowed to help us.

They just wasn't allowed. There's again, I'm not going to go into the Portland politics, but we just don't have a lot of help. And so you have to be very creative when you need to need to make sure that the outside of your business is, is presentable. And so in doing that, Oh, there's Ellen. Is that Ellen? Yeah, that's Ellen. She's one of the, she's one of the ICU nurses that we have. She's amazing. God, beautiful structure. Yeah. The, the jerk position sure is, um, that too. Hey,

I would just like to say that, um, small business is the antithesis of of portland government small small business is about personal accountability personal responsibility um uh self-determination uh drive uh contributing obviously the crossfit gym is the greatest contributor small business contributor to any society anywhere in the world and i've talked talked about it ad nauseum, but you're bringing people in there, you're making jobs, but everyone who works out there is lower impact on the entire fucking planet. They use fewer resources everywhere they go.

They eat whole foods that have less packaging. They go to the hospital less. I mean, I could go on and they can help their neighbors more. They do do it. They're eminently more capable. I mean, it could go on and on. And the fact, and fuck Portland, I know it's not you saying it, but any politicians who aren't helping small businesses, you're an asshole.

I mean you are just – anyway, so that's my rant. I know, and like in true personal accountability and true responsibility thing, you don't do the politics thing like me and be a whiny little pussy. You're like, okay, I'm going to take full accountability and responsibility, and I'm going to start asking people to please step off the property or do your tranq across the street or, hey, please don't sleep in my entryway. And you slowly clean up, and what you were going to go, I think is your neighbors really started appreciating and liking you. They saw the value, right? The whole contract cleaned up because of you guys, the way you carried yourself. And it definitely paid dividends too. When I asked the landlord, Hey, can I take up some parking spots and can you help me build this? Right? Like we just did what my dad and mom would have been proud that we did. We just picked up garbage. We cleaned up, we took it, we took it upon ourselves of like, Hey, this is my space and I don't want garbage

on my space. And people just, they, they start to see that they start to see like, okay, this, this is not a place where, um, where we're going to do this anymore. Um, and a while. We had to, I have some policies in place where my staff isn't allowed to approach people in cars. And, and we have, we have some, some strategic things in place so that they aren't put in harm's way. You know, when, when, when we have that, cause there's certainly been some instances that are that are less than optimal and nothing you'd want your employees to be around or anyone for that matter. But we have a great relationship with the manager of Papa Murphy's. He's actually fantastic with some of the homeless or the transient population that we get in back and forth that mostly come to the dumpster because of the plaid pantry and the Papa Murphy's.

There's a lot of food there. We just have conversations with people. And we have a couple of folks that have some pretty significant challenges that sleep. And essentially, we had a conversation like, hey, if you're going to sleep here, can you sleep over here? Still stay under this place. But I can't have you sleep next to my squat rack. And I can't have you cover up my door and you can't be lighting fires from 5 a.m until i mean right

no one wants to work out next to a bonfire so we and we have that relationship with a couple and and we just know i tell my coaches like this this guy's named dion just make sure you say hi to him yeah and just talk to him. That's it. Let him be seen. Yeah. Treat him like a human. Let him be seen. Yep. Yep. And, and, and so I think I'm not going to go into the Portland politics, but like, Hey, but Hey, you know what? I appreciate, I appreciate that. That's a realistic look at the situation. I, they are at the end of the day, they're people and they,

and people want to be seen i've seen most of the people who support homeless people and they with their tax dollars they are completely disgusted by them and won't make eye contact or talk to them i'm like what are you doing they're just people like when someone asks you for a dollar you look up in the eye and you say hi not today you don't fucking like yeah it's just people yeah i mean it's it's a conversation right and sometimes those conversations are uncomfortable and people don't like to be uncomfortable um and so that that just has worked well for us sometimes it doesn't work well and go sideways and like i should have done that um but for the most part uh we don't we don't run into challenges anymore

and that has really helped with our relationship with everybody else that shares the shopping complex. And the facility looks beautiful. Okay, so you open this thing in 2018. You get through the first year, which is probably never easy for a business. And then COVID happens and you get through that. And the, oh, I want to go back to one other thing.

The very subtle nuance you said. You said one of the strongest correlates for people's lives going sideways is not having a mom or dad, whether it's being obese, getting into crime, getting cancer. It's crazy how strong the correlate is for all of those things, not cause and effect but correlate. And something you said is I treated these people the way my mom, I did what my mom and dad would have done. You said that. Yeah. Yeah. Like, and isn't that interesting? You had a mom and dad at home. And even as a grown ass man, who's got a beautiful wife and two kids and a business and a smart, you still reference what your mom and dad taught you. I mean, the reason that we were successful during COVID and,

and, and this isn't a boast or anything. We didn't accept any money from, we didn't apply for any government funding or anything of that because of my background. My, my, if you're, you are a gritty human. If you're in the dairy industry, like you have to be. And I pride myself on that. And those the the things that I learned you know from my dad my mom my mom was a prison guard for a long time um and my my dad you know was a dairy farmer for a long time and so um doing hard things um and just you can't do hard things one time. You've got to do it consistently. And that's the epitome of being a small business owner is like walking through

shit and continuing to walk, wipe your shoe off and keep walking and know you're going to step in shit again, but maybe you'll see it this time and you can walk around it, but there's always going to be shit in your way. I'm guessing as a dairy farmer in Massachusetts, six months of the year, the job sucks because it's freezing.

And then as soon as the cold goes away, six months of the year, you're covered in flies. Yeah. It's just hard the whole time. It's either it goes from ice to mud to flies to too hot to back to ice. And it's just like, Jesus, can I just get a week in here? Yeah. to back to ice and it's just like jesus can i just get a week in here yeah it's uh my dad used to say uh the work within dairy farming isn't hard it just never stops right um so the uh and and the big story here that um we're an hour and 10 in and i haven't even touched it is what you said

so i've never heard this before everyone chasing. Everyone's always proud of all their certifications. And granted, you are a hard worker. You have you had a lifelong of of fitness and physical movement. So you had a tremendous foundation for that. But you've invested all of your extra time in making sure how to run a business. What does that mean? Like how to do the books or how to treat customers or what is it? What, what's the scope of this $60,000 investment in education you've given

yourself? Um, I mean, it's, it's all of that. It's, um, learning systems and operations learning how, so I, I won't step foot in my gym, um, until probably next Tuesday. Um, and so my staff needs to know how to turn on the lights and they need to know how to run classes and they need to know how to sign someone up because we do a prescriptive consultative process. Um, they need to know what happens in session six and our on-ramp. They need to know what happens or when the programming's done, they need to know what happens or when the programming's done. They

need to know how the nutrition conversation happens, whether you're a current nutrition client or you're a prospective one. They need to know how the gym is clean. They need to know how to set up the outside speaker system, where the chalk is, when the chalk runs out, like literally everything that you take for granted when you're the business owner, people don't know how to do it. And so building that, those systems and processes, and then going further of like, okay, this is what a job description looks like before I post a job description. Oftentimes you see people like, hey, I need a CrossFit coach. I'm like, great. What's their job?

What is your expectation? Because you can take my job description, but that's for my gym, not for yours. Your ethos, your demographic, your goals within your business is different. And then what's your onboarding process look like? That's all got to be documented. That's all got to be developed. You don't just get it. I love it that CrossFit's not a franchise. If they ever CrossFitted or if they ever franchise, I'd be gone. I love it that CrossFit leaves me alone the business wise, because then I can run it specific to what I want to do. Probably goes back to my background of liking to do this kind of stuff. But the challenge with that is you don't have any of the resources of how to run a business.

And so you have to build all of those from the ground up. I was fortunate enough to, like I said, I've listened to your podcast. So thank you very much. You're actually the reason that I'm on this podcast is because of a podcast that I listened to you host, and then introducing me to Chris Cooper that way, and then learning about him, educating and realizing like, okay, if this thing's going to be a real thing, then I need to make sure that my employees show up and they can do what they want to do. And then it just becomes multi-level. Like you hire your first CrossFit coach. And that's a very different job description than I have for my manager of operations or my head coach or my director of training or my nutrition coach.

And so evolution of there. And we haven't even talked about books, right? Like I learned my books and then I hired a bookkeeper once we got to a certain level. Cause it's like, that's not my area of genius. And again, my job isn't to be the best bookkeeper now. It was in the beginning, similar to accounting. My second year, I hired an accountant where I was like, this is no longer my area of expertise. So I'm going to hire someone in for that. So there's all that. And then there's program creation, right? Like my program's diversified. So we do a lot of private training. We do a lot of hybrid training, a lot of semi-private training concurrent with our group classes.

And we have very small spaces. So logistics are a challenge there. Documenting, figuring out the flow of that, and then educating all of our staff for that. So again, I can be here. We're going to put probably 100 people through my gym today. That's a usable space inside. gym today that's a usable space inside we have under 2 000 square feet with all of my coaches working today and i won't i won't do anything because my operations director knows how everything needs to be done and all my coaches have been educated like this is your role here this is how

you do that takes a long time to do. And it takes focus on those processes and building it into a system. So now you have operations. So today, if I come in with my wife and my three kids and I'm like, Hey, I want to join up this CrossFit gym. Do you have a family plan? There's someone who can answer my question. If your toilet backs up, there's someone there who knows exactly which plumber. So they won't be like, Hey, uh, they won't be like, Hey, Dan's not here. Um, uh, come back next week. They'll, they'll actually, they know what to say to me. Or if the toilet backs up, they won't be, they won't put a sign on the door saying the toilet's not working. They'll call the plumber and get it fixed. Like you're saying like you have that thing.

If there's a homeless guy on the porch, there's someone there who knows how to talk to him and be like, Oh, Dion, what's up? Dan said, you normally don't come till eight 30 at night. Do you mind giving us a few more hours until we shut the doors? Yeah. Yeah. So like that, you're saying that all that's your, you have that shit just dialed. Yeah. Everybody knows in, everybody knows that there's a new person that comes in, that they come through a consolative process. We call it an OSWIT intro. member knows that sam he's one of my coaches he's also our facilities manager he does all that stuff so he'd get a text message like hey the second bathroom is clogged or the rower number six isn't working or the assault bike needs to be tightened or whatever um and that's all facilitated through um the operations um, unless a new person

comes in and then all the coaches know, like, Hey, let me, let me schedule you, uh, for a no sweat intro with Jonathan or Brandon. Um, those are the two coaches that do our no sweat intros currently or myself when I get back. Um, I bet your employees are happy because everyone knows their role and their boundaries and the rules. And then from there, inside of there, they're free. It's like raising kids, it sounds like.

I bet you. Do you have happy employees? Yeah, I like to empower them. We run an entrepreneurial model where nobody can come work for me that doesn't want to build something within my business. my business. Um, you know, like my, my head coach and my, and my, uh, director of training, we built a physical therapy clinic within my, within my space for him because he's a, he's a, has a doctorate in physical therapy and we have since sold him that practice. Um, and so now he practices there, but he still coaches as a CrossFit coach and does private training as a CrossFit coach because he loves CrossFit and he integrates that within that practice. My nutrition coach, I hired her with

the interest of taking over our nutrition program. My operations guy, we hired him with the interest of taking over operations. We have another guy, Brandon, who does a lot of our teens athletes. And so everybody has a focus within. There's no garden variety thing they do. So they all have their own little thing that they're able to build upon, which is what I think really empowers people. And it takes a lot of the stress off because they don't have to worry about the lease payment, right? I think about my lease in the five-year span, not the month-to-month. And it's like, well, I just signed a $400,000 lease that I got to pay for over the next four years, right? Or I've got to do this. They don't have to think about that. They don't have to think

about insurance. They don't have to think about a barbell. They don't have to think about all those things. They get to just think about what they want to do. And we try to empower them that way. What about class size? Do you have a limit on your class size there? We do. Yep. So for our CrossFit classes, it's 12 during the weekdays.

And then we do 16 on the weekend for Saturday and Sunday because we do partner workouts on the weekend. But we control our logistics. A, we control it in the beginning because we wanted to have the highest level of coaching possible. And that comes somewhat from my background of wanting to excel there, but also from understanding how the business model needed to work because I'm in a really expensive county. County is very expensive. My lease and everything there is extremely expensive with a small space. If we don't have a high revenue per member, then we're not going to make it. That's just the way it goes. And so you've got to figure out how can I provide that value? And one of the ways is controlling your logistics. So oftentimes, for instance, if we're doing power cleans or we're doing deadlifts or squats or whatever it might be in a strength component, we're going to pair people up. So there's fewer people moving at a time so we can provide more coaching to them. Um, and so is that a problem? What if I get there and there's already 12 people

there? Do they, do I sign up in advance? Yeah. So we have a 24 hour, um, you're allowed to sign up 24 hours in advance and then you can unregister an hour beforehand. We have a wait list. It depends on which class. I do give the coaches discretion. For the most part, if we have someone show up, it's going to be a parent that's like, this is the only time I can get in, and we make an exception for it. We're not hard and fast, like, oh, no, there's only 12. You got to go.

Some coaches have the ability, like myself and then only 12. You got to go. Um, some coaches have the ability like myself. And then, and then a couple of our very experienced coaches, they can run a class of up to 16 without a problem. Some of our newer coaches might not. And so we give them discretion of like, Hey, if you can control this load, then you can let some of the weightless people in. If you don't feel comfortable, then stay with the 12. I apologize. One of the listeners is posturing on you. Uh, then stay with the 12th. I apologize. One of the listeners is posturing on you. I'm such a good coach. I can run a 70 person class and be present for each of them. We know Mason. Yes, dude. That's awesome. Send me your resume. If it has

certifications, I don't want to look at it. That's good stuff. He's really being humble. Oh, that's good stuff. He's really being humble. Really, it's over 100. I've seen him work. Yeah, that's awesome. It's absolutely remarkable. No, he's not being silly, Jan.

This is a show of facts. Is the gym maxed out then? Like, have you capped memberships? We always teeter with that. I mean, technically we could. We actually just recently added a 5 a.m. class because we were getting massive wait lists for our 6 a.m. class. And that's helped out a little bit.

We do, when we have new people come in for their No Sweat intro, we do have a conversation with them around like, hey, if you're targeting our 6 a.m. class or our noon time class, it could be a little bit tight. And so let's see if we can find another one for you to be consistent at. We have a couple of different programs that allow us to

have more athletes in than the 12-person class would allow for. And so by diversifying with our hybrid training and our semi-private training, um, we can get a lot of athletes in like a 6am on a Monday, we're running a six person, semi-private, a four on one hybrid training, and then a cap 12 person class. Um, and so those are four different classes still though. None of, none of those ones. Oh, three different ones, but still none of those are over 12 or 16. No, but we've got 22 people in the building. Okay. 22 athletes in the building with three separate coaches.

Again, back to the operations and system. I'm sorry. Sorry. What's a six-person semi-private class? What's that? So that's the one that I'm kind of known for. So we do a eight week, six on one semi-private strength training block. And so what we found out about two and a half

years ago was people wanted a little bit more specification for the areas that they're at. Oftentimes it was around strength training specifically. And I just couldn't find any good private training coaches. I had two really good ones and I was turning away clients, turning away private training clients. And so we built out this six on one semi-private strength training block where we do two sessions a week. It's at the same exact time. So it's structured like the class, but it runs for eight weeks. So they do 16 sessions. It's 16, um, sessions. It's always the same six people. It's always the same focus within that eight week block. And it's always the same coach unless a coach is on vacation. Um, and so those got really popular. I mean, we'll,

we're running between eight to 12 of them, um, per like at a time, eight to 12 different blocks. per like at a time eight to twelve different blocks um and so um those are really powerful for our athletes being able to a get a little bit cheaper of a private training session because it's in a smaller group but it's still specified um for them are they members of the gym though that also do the other classes so they do the other classes too that's 48 to 7 that's 48 to 72 people at all times are in those classes yeah oh yeah and how often do those classes meet so they meet uh two days a week um are the blocks and so we'll run like i think what would i learn like i would learn like the olympic lifts it'd be like okay guys this is eight weeks on no no no we mostly do calm so more of it deadlift back squat front squat pull up a lot of midline development movements that are tough to do in classes so hip thrust blocks hip thrusts are fantastic for low back pain they're also great for glute development

which so it's a double whammy for most people like your back's on a block and your feet are out there and then you you look like you're humping the air is that it yeah yeah pretty much okay um and we do a lot of strong person so sandbag carries and and a lot of strong person midline stuff people really like them um because it it's a focused training for eight weeks it's in a much smaller environment. And they do get results a little bit faster because they're going to focus on that exact thing for eight weeks. Most of those people are doing two to three CrossFit classes, or they're doing some private or hybrid training as well. So we have very few of the people that are

in our semi-private program, um, that are only training twice a week. Most everybody else is training, um, four times a week plus. Um, did you ever do the men, you, you said you read the book from Chris Cooper. Did you ever do the mentor program yeah yeah so i i'm i'm a mentor i work for chris cooper oh you do also oh yeah yeah so you went through his program and then afterwards you're like i'll also be a mentor yeah yeah so i've been in the time for that my god systems and processes yeah like i i don't mean to be like that's, that's where most gym owners cap out as they don't, they, they go after their, their certifications as a coach, which if that's what you want to do, like if you want to be a guy had a conversation with a business or the other

day, I'm like, do you want to be a coach or do you want to be a, do you want to be a business owner? Cause you can be both, but there has to be this. Right. And it's like, if you want to have employees, the business owner has to go up. You have to be the business owner. And so I've been in the Tinker program, which is the highest level two brain program. This is my second year in that. And then last year, I invested in my education to get into, well, you first have to get accepted into the mentorship program and i did that last year and so uh right now i mentor 12 or 13 gym owners you know i've got a couple uh that are local and then i've got a couple in sydney australia like everywhere in between so so you're a mentor but you're also in the program learning more stuff. Yeah, that's right. That's,

I'm headed to Vegas on Wednesday to meet up with all my tinker buddies, um, and learn from them. Oh, and you guys sit around and share it. So like, um, your, um, six person class you were just talking about, you'll share that with the group and be like, God, guys, this is really popular. This really works. This is how you manage the space for them this is how you introduce it like you'll share the in the process and system in places for that program for example yeah i mean i've done a ton

of specialty calls for that over the last six months and then i i i've been talking about it i've run been running it for two and a half years so i've been talking about the tinker group for two and a half years um and then the weirdest thing you've heard in the tinker program was anyone been like hey dude i started selling bottle caps to people and they're buying them it's weird um is there anything like crazy thing or like hey we have a bring your own roll of paper towels day you wouldn't believe it i mean is there anything like i don't know if there's anything like weird they're just it they're so fascinating and they're so successful. Like those, those people, the ideas that people bring there. Oh, they're not even ideas.

They're things that they're ideas that are now in, in place. Yeah. Like everybody, you know what? It's really cool that you have an idea, but if you can't act on it, then it's just an idea. Right. And I think that that's what people get mired in. And that's why as you get closer to the tip of the spear, it gets more narrow. And these people are are just unbelievable. The things that they've accomplished both within the fitness industry and then as they they they create generational wealth for their families outside of the fitness industry, whether it be, you know, real estate investment or it be stock investment or they invest in becoming a mentor and helping other gyms, or they they help

purchase other gyms, or they purchase other gyms, or they purchase other businesses or whatever they do, like they, when you get into the Tinker program, you evolve like, into a really solid business person. And it's just, I, I love these meetups. They're, they're so awesome. How do you, did you have, do you have to graduate from something else before you get to the tinkers that you do? Yeah. So you start in ramp up, which is essentially building foundational, uh, awareness of how to kind of run your business specifically through the two brain model. And that, that has recently changed a little bit. It has some specific things that we coach people through. And then you go into the growth phase where we're focusing on something specific within your

business and, and through the pathways that Cooper has, has outlined for us. And then dumping gasoline on that so that we can accelerate the growth in like, you know, the length of time people stay with you or the average revenue that you generate per member or your client load, like how many clients you have or how much money you're taking home or, you know, just multiple areas that we focus on. And then you get to a level at which you're more comfortable and you can step away from the business and it doesn't break down. And then you have the choice to, to ascend to Tinker. And then that's another interview process where you talk to,

you talk to either Chris or, or my former mentor, Jolene. And, and they, they say, yeah, you're a good fit for Tinker. You know, this is what it is, or maybe you're not a good fit for Tinker. If I'm a gym owner and I'm listening to this podcast right now and I'm like, oh man, I've been sitting on the fence about this Chris Cooper thing. I'm going to sign up, but I want Dan, can someone request you? Yeah. Yeah. I have a mentee call today with a guy that listened to him. I did a podcast with, uh, with John Franklin, who's the CMO of Two Brain, two months ago, three months ago in Dallas. And he listened to it. He had a gym in Sherwood, which is just south of us.

So I went and met him for coffee because he DMed me and wanted to know about my semi-private program. And I went down and had a conversation with him. And I was like, you know, no, no way, um, trying to promote anything. And then finally he asked, like, tell me a little bit more about two brain. And so then I told him, um, and then it, uh, a week later I got an email that he now, uh, is a mentee of mine and I get to see him on, on zoom today and help him grow his business. Wait, the guy who's in charge of the two brain podcast interviewed you and then chose you to be his mentee no no a guy listening to the

oh listen to it okay because i think but you got to max out somewhere right you can't take everyone like i think i i hate to uh i think you're going to get bugged now after this doing this podcast by a handful of people, what's the maximum people you can take? Are you almost full? I am not. No. So, well, and I know they have other capable people there, but man, you're really coming across really like, you know, like, like you're doing, like, you know, your shit. I mean, the mentor is a two brainer, just dynamite. Like any one of them you get matched up with is, it's just going to help you so much. Um, we, so we have a, we have a soft limit and then we kind of have a hard cap.

Um, for me right now, um, I have kind of a soft limit of how many I'll take. Um, and it'll be specific to where kind of the phases are. Um, and so again at all would you take would you take someone like in in copenhagen i mean i have a client in sydney okay okay yeah no it doesn't matter because that's the great thing about zoom right it's kind of a pain to schedule in the beginning but i was just culturally fit i mean i mean but i mean shit if you can succeed in portland man you could succeed if you can run a small business portland you can run a small business anywhere it's uh yeah yeah so i mean we get to we get to go around and and and meet with people and so i mean i i had several calls with people following those podcasts just kind of explaining how my process works and and i'm that's the cool thing when you get when you extend ascend to the

level um that some of the gym owners are that are in this tinker program probably within any i would hope within any field um you're you're just looking to help people so like if people dm me i i get right back to them i if they want to set up a chat or if they want to have coffee or they want whatever like i'll tell you what not to do. I can't, I mean, I've made the mistakes, you know, and, and I want, if someone, if someone wants advice and I can be of, of a helping hand, um, I got nothing to hide. And so, um, yeah, just try to help people when you get to this level that said, you do have to set a cap. And so I have a cap there, but back to the systems and operations with my operation manager in place, um, the day to day at the gym, I don't get mired as much. And I do all the marketing and

the social media stuff. We do organic and affinity marketing. We don't do any paid marketing, which I really enjoy doing that. And I do the goal reviews with all of our clients. Um, as well as the no sweat intros, we, my operations guy and I split those. He does a few more than I do, but that opens it up the opportunity to do some more consulting. Why do you stay affiliated, Dan? That's a great question. I mean, it's something that we go back and forth with. I truly believe in the methodology of CrossFit. And certainly they have ebbed and flowed, especially a lot in the last five to six years, you know, in multiple areas

that if you aren't mature, makes it really difficult to get in line with. But at the end of the day, I'm sure you mean mature, like intellectually or mature as a business. If you're not already a mature business or both, probably both. Recognizing that like they can they can say a whole lot of X, Y and Z, but we're still not we're not franchised. So I can still operate my business. However, I heard Craig Howard talking about that on one of your podcasts a while ago. Like I still get to run my business the way i want to run my business right and and and again it may be a little bit unfair that i treated my business like a business so that i i like that where some other affiliate owners might be like oh i wish they would give me more guidance i prefer not to have it so that's one the barrier of entry is very

small um as far as like well this is what I have to do to have an affiliate. They are long overdue for a rate increase. I know that it stinks for a lot of business owners and affiliates that have razor thin margins, which is the majority of affiliates. And I get that. That's a huge margin for me i just continue to promote what crossfit does bring the media department back in and tell some stories like that that talk to the general population that is the number one thing i have to do in no sweat intros is tell people like we're not instagram crossfit you're not going to get hurt here like this is what you need to become a formidable human and to pick your

grandkids up or to be able to walk upstairs or to keep as much skeletal muscle mass on. And so just continuing to like to, to solidify the brand and the integrity around it, but it doesn't hurt people. And so the other one is, is I think that the certification process is very good now I listened to Susan's podcast the other day similarly we don't let people just get their

L1 and then come in and coach we have a complete process outlined of of how you're going to be onboarded as a coach and then we do a structured coaches development every single month, third Thursday for an hour. So continuing education in house with our coaches. But I do think the certification is nice to have that in an area that I trust. And so that's, that's why I keep it as I believe in it. Okay. So Jake Chapman kind of unfucked me a little bit here.

He said, ask the question again. Change the question to what value does being an affiliate give you? Are you doing a brand loyalty payment? Is that what you're doing? Are you doing a tithing? Are you doing a church payment? Which, listen, and I'm not, I'm not saying that with any judgment.

I'm, um, uh, as, as right before Greg sold the, um, gym, he started telling me, he's like, Hey, cat's out of the bag, dude. I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, we got like, we got like, all we can do now is litigate, educate and legislate. Like we like, cause now it's all brand loyalty payments. No one's paying us for shit. Like we got to like – we got to fight for the affiliates on fronts that they can't see. He's not wrong.

So – and I know – and he did some pretty fucking remarkable shit to stop licensure in the United States, although it feels like it could be creeping back in. shit to stop licensure uh in the united states although it feels like it could be creeping back in um do you do you do do people really not know why they pay you think maybe i mean i can't get a straight answer from susan but he's more than happy to pay it and he's yeah i mean he's a smart fucking guy he's one of the smartest guys i know i is it emotional no it's it's no it's not emotional I have a lot of hope for for what CrossFit could do within the medical community so I one of the biggest reasons I opened the gym is I knew that I could help more people in a CrossFit gym that I was helping with in the donation world okay absolutely could make a much bigger and and I have some hope there um there's a lot of it's happened yeah it's happening i guess my question to you is okay let me just be even uh let me try again um if you stop being

affiliated would you lose clients no no okay all right fair enough um, fair enough. Cool. Hey, you're awesome. What a cool dude you are. Man, your kids are stoked world, and you're going to add tremendous value. This podcast is going to add tremendous value to a lot of gym owners who listen to it, and you give a lot of hope. And I think you're going to change the trajectory for a lot of people. You changed my opinion a little bit because I always see it as being, as much, as much as I love Chris Cooper and not a dirty thing to say, I want to run this gym like a business. I've always had a little bit of a bad taste. Like, Hey, um, maybe that's just the liberal in me, but, um, like it's a bad, it's a bad thing to succeed and run it like a business. But you really have, uh, you may have just thrown the straw that broke the camel's back on there for me. I really appreciate you, dude.

No, I hope so. Yeah. Yeah. We're, we're trying to do, trying to do good things. Yeah. You're obviously, you're trying to run a business so that you can keep people in there to keep getting fit. And, uh, and you've definitely seen both sides of the world. You've seen the medical world and what can go wrong there. No one, no one should want an organ transplant, right? So if you can mitigate, if you can mitigate that, by visiting Woodslawn CrossFit,

do it. I appreciate you. Thank you very much. Yeah, thanks so much for the opportunity. It was great to chat with you. Yeah, awesome. All right, dude. Have a great day. You too. Bye. Ciao. Damn.

Whoa. His kids are lucky. They're not not going hungry that guy's capable of that guy's just capable my kids grow up to be what'd you say sit stealing food from homeless people he that guy's eminently capable for sure um what graciano rub, if you're not affiliated, you're the last in line to get a response from an affiliate owner. I don't understand. But if you are affiliated and need help or advice or other affiliate owners will help you out far beyond what you probably deserve. Oh, meaning if you pay your affiliate fees, it's not what you get from HQ.

It's what you get from the other gyms that pay the money. Is that what you're saying? I'm going to help family first. That's interesting. We're all dumb. We pay 4,500 a year. So we like other dumb people. No,

I'm not just joking. Damn. Damn. Yes. Yes. We ain't helping any of you other suckers out there if you don't pay four or five hundred dollars and fuck you

yeah that's a good dude he's pretty uh there's this word uh equanimous equanimity equanimous, equanimity, equanimous, is that the word? Equanimous, is that a word? Calm and composed. Oh, yeah, yeah, that guy's calm and composed. Yeah, equanimity.

Mental calmness, composure, and evenness temper, especially in difficult situations. Well, when you harvest organs for a living. Is Seve part of an affiliate? Yeah, I'm my own affiliate program. I'm part of the Matuthian family. Hey, what's up, D'Souza? D'Souza. What's up, Myron?

Hey, Myron. Hey, Myron. Is it Myron? Myron. Probably Myron. No, if he was, is he a black guy? If he's a black guy, it's Myron. I don't think he's a black guy. Yeah.

You never know these days. It's true. He could identify as black. Savon. Savon. I swear my teeth are teeth are whiter of course they are of course they are god that guy's an organ harvester well well he's he was in the uh in the organ factory yeah right it's crazy my brother-in-law used to do that in china yeah no here in china they get organs out 10 10 times faster than uh than dan did yeah oh for sure they might have x in them but you know they'll still work for a little while.

Look at this. Here's a lesson in relativity. Chris Beesterfeld, my teeth are getting whiter or I'm getting tanner. See the relativity there? Was I around during the Black Box Summit? I saw someone ask that. God, you guys don't know your shit at all. I went to go look at it, go read it real quick. What the black box on it was.

Yeah. Cause there's that article about it that he, what's his gut. What's his face wrote Rob Wolf. Yeah. And, uh, the website like gave me a four Oh four error. Like it didn't want me to read it. It's so, uh, so basically for those of you who don't know and i'll tell like the most generic version i can

but basically there was this meeting of box owners and james fitzgerald was there and um who is the guy uh what's trying to show his husband's name freddie camacho was there and uh greg everett was there a bunch of people were there oh like old-time crossfitters and um and i think greg everett put up a picture of annie sakamoto doing a med ball clean and she said he said uh this isn't how you do a med ball clean and i think dave stood up and goes said something to him like hey why don't you shut up you fat fuck just in the middle of this though hey but dude i mean like he this is a uh a c i mean he went on two deployments after that he was home from a deployment i mean you know what i mean like Like, um, um, in, in a nutshell, I'm really oversimplifying it,

but in a nutshell, it was like, whether what she was doing was a clean or not, like, Hey, use a different picture. Right. Don't use one. Like, like, you know, Greg, you're a CrossFitter. We're all CrossFitters. Why are you using Annie as the example or just something? It was something like that. And then that just broke, that just got weird. Right. And there was a time when like everyone everyone kind of wanted to be the know-it-all but like Cross it was still like making the land grab after lunch Oh when this photo came out Greg said I'm not going to get into this right now Dave yelled out. No get into it

Peg thought this was Michael Rutherford and said not now sweetie. Oh way, Dave thought he was being disrespectful and yelled out in the middle of the lecture. Attended by over 70 people from around the world at the event that was not HQ sponsored event. Fuck you, fat fuck. Holy shit. Greg Everett's not even fat, but. Anyway, I think it's cool. I don't know, Greg Everett's not even fat, but... Anyway. I think it's cool. I don't know Greg Everett.

I've only heard good things about him. I fucking love Dave to death. What can I say? So good. But dude, this is... Yeah, I mean, this is fucking... That was... I mean... I don't know this for a fact but four days earlier dave may have put a fucking bullet in someone's pumpkin i mean you know what i mean like like uh there's a chance he did then he didn't yeah and so it's kind of like um um yeah so maybe it's like chris t chris's teeth like maybe they're not getting

whiter from a toothiness he's just getting tanner it's all relativity in context and i honestly i don't know i don't know this for a fact but i don't think greg was like butthurt i think he just said he kept on with the lecture unfazed yeah i don't think yeah i don't think greg was um it's just it's kind of like the thing between um dave and rich too like people have way thicker skin like people have people have i have really thick skin people have way thicker skin than than the average people out there. Like so. Big boys. Boys.

Men. Oh please. My dentist told me to throw out the tooth powder. He said it was scratching my already perfect enamel. Yeah. You should do that. You should listen to. My tooth theme was too abrasive.

Yeah. You should listen to him tooth theme was too abrasive yeah you should listen to him for sure 100 the guy who's the guy who's been putting fluoride in kids mouths hey um in all seriousness braylon you should look up uh what over fluorided teeth look like when they get too much uh and then you'll start seeing a lot of people have over fluorided teeth look like when they get too much. And then you'll start seeing a lot of people have over fluorided teeth. It's those those white squiggly lines that people get in their teeth. It's just the enamels all fucked up.

Yeah, you trust them. My dentist was also anti-vax and fluoride. Oh, all right. So I trust him. All right. All right. He doesn't use fluoride. All right. Fine.

Fine, fine, fine. Seven of my girlfriend's teeth are feel so polished I can't tell from French kissing. Yeah. Rambler, is Rob Wolf the paleo guy? Yes he was Dildo Or just brush your teeth as God intended with cock Interesting Tended with cock. Interesting.

I think that's it. Let me see what's going on here. Oh, tomorrow is a Souza's show. Oh, David will come out with a... Week in Review. Week in Review. Is he going to review being on your show? So that we can review him being on your show? Maybe.

That'd be cool. Then Greg comes on Wednesday. We'll ask him about the nutrition seminar. Oh, that'd be great. And then on Thursday, another affiliate series. Damn, we're ramping up the affiliate series. And then Friday, John Singleton. I think John Singleton was he coaching that group

that was on the island of Majorca, and he doesn't anymore right uh um laura horvath's uh christoph horvat's girlfriend she's on the show yeah gabby magawa yeah i think so caleb hi do you work hundreds of feet underground for 72 hour shifts no do you work underground at all i don't think i've ever worked underground no uh no augustus link my dentist used to give us toothpaste with extra fluoride because we lived on well water which had no added fluoride i now have stains on my

two front teeth yeah that's the that's the thing and if you try other tooth powders you'll see that my toothing is the i mean of the four or five i've tried it's by far the least granular it's also the least granular. It's also the least salty. You should probably order some at some point. Oh, I'll send you some. Will you text me your address? Sure.

I googled around, and that's always the concern of dentists, that it's too abrasive, but there's no evidence of it. Zero. It's like I googled and googled and googled and googled everyone who does it just loves it i get a podcast with jason hopper dylan pepper and taylor before the quarterfinals it will be a fun podcast with these legends oh hold on let me write that down hold on my ron. Okay, got it. Okay.

I noticed you forgot Colton. Fuck Colton, right? No Colton? Yeah. Fuck that guy. Thank you. These fucking people in the comments. Someone's like, hey, you should record the event first and then play it so people can't see their scores.

Oh, yeah. Great idea. Record it first. That's really cool. Douche nozzles. Dude, leave it all to me. No more advices from anyone. If you want to send me something,

if you have any advice, send me a picture of a wart on your penis. I'll diagnose it for you. And listen, all you people who have sick kids out there don't just don't work just leave just it's fine sniff leak if your kid has any cold symptoms he's fine i was thinking about the other day that guy just has one kid so that's why he was being like that it's like that's what i was thinking too yeah whenever we've had whenever i would see parents bring their kids in, it was their first kid, and it was just same kind of symptoms, just sniffly and runny nose.

I took my kids to a tennis tournament yesterday, got them all dressed. We get there, and Ari's like, dude, my stomach is fucked up. I'm like, it is? He's like, yeah. He's seven, right? And I'm like, all right, what are you going to do? And he's like, I already told you I can't play. I'm like, well, warm up with me. He's like, dude, I do not feel good. I'm going to go lay in the sun. And he's seven. I'm like, all right what are you gonna do and he's like i already told you i can't play i'm like well warm up with me he's like dude i do not feel good i'm gonna go lay in the

sun and he's seven i'm like all right dude i trust you i love you and my other two boys were not feeling good too but they're just out there playing and they're a little further along in the sickness and um so the guy next to me is a parent and he's got this one kid right and this this guy like is the guy who whenever i get to uh whenever i see him he always shows me a picture of my his kid he's like look here's my kid in karate look here's my kid in baseball here so he just he's so proud of his kid and you can tell both parents like hover on the kid right yeah and he's and he's he's he's a great kid i mean it's just but it's just the typical two parents one kid kid, you know, he's everything to them.

And it's like, so he's like, oh, your kids aren't feeling well. I'm like, nah, they've been vomiting and this and that and this. And he right away goes,

have you taken them in to have them checked? And I'm like, that's when it clicked for me. Take them in to have them checked. He done got gonorrhea. Right. You know what I mean? Not bleeding out of his asshole.

Yeah. Like, like what the fuck what are you talking about my parents still do that to my to my younger brother so he needs to get checked yeah like we'll be on like a full-blown vacation right like we're we're going to disney world and he's like my throat kind of scratchy like we need to go to urgent care let's go right now we need to go like yeah dude i'm at fucking disney world i'm gonna go i'm gonna fucking build a lightsaber and ride some rides i'm not gonna go spend half a day in an urgent care because michael's got a

sore throat my i shouldn't my i hope my mom's not listening. One of my kids, he talked funny. And not even funny. He didn't even talk funny. He just talked different. And I don't even know how to describe it. And at one point, my mom's like, hey, man, you need to take him to a speech therapist. And then like a month later, she's like, you need to take him to a speech therapist. And like a month later, she's like, you need to take him to a speech therapist.

And I didn't tell her this. But the whole time, I'm thinking, that's just going to fuck my kid up even more. Yeah, right. Like I just knew, like I just used my own discernment. And now it's been two years and he's the fucking most articulate, easiest to understand, most chatty Cathy, like, yeah, yeah, plug your ears rosemary yeah but but and i'm not upset at my mom for telling me that but that's her generation you know what i mean like i know that it's like for sure like i like i play both sides of it okay i'm gonna take him there now it's gonna he's gonna think he's a tard he's gonna immediately be like hey why do i gotta do the fucking he's gonna have a conflict yeah yeah he's like shit i had to go to speech therapy the first five years of my life yeah fuck that i ain't like i told my

but i did think that i did actually think of this when my mom recommended it i was like oh maybe i should get him this is seriously where i went with this maybe i should get him singing lessons so that way he doesn't know that he's working on his you know uh pronunciation of words or his you know the what you know or paying attention to how his mouth works you know i did think that have you seen the king's speech it's kind of a silly movie but i think i saw it i thought it was going to be great it's at the very end like he's a stammering moron and then he fucking gives like the greatest speech of all time was that winston churchill who was that the king's speech who was the i don't think it was winston churchill but um anyway he that's kind of how they fixed his speech was through singing

oh they did okay i did see that movie maybe subconsciously that's why i said it but probably not i'm probably not i'm a genius okay i'm a practical genius see you probably just did it all yourself played some music got him singing some tupac and now they can speak like geniuses Played some music, got them singing some Tupac, and now they can speak like geniuses. Can I ask you a personal question? Sure. Do you have day sex? Yeah.

You do? Yeah. I had day sex yesterday. How was it? It was fucking great. It's always great, but it was just, you know what I mean? It's weird in the middle of the day, isn't it? Yeah. You expect it to happen at night.

Cause you're like, well, it's just. Or in the morning. But just day sex is just weird. Yeah. Now what do I do with the rest of my day? Yeah. Well, you know, it's funny. That's what my wife said.

Really? Yeah. She was kind of tapped after that. Damn. Okay. Well. Hey, I'm like, I'm going to take a nap. It turns into day sex. And now, now I don't want to take a nap i'm ready to go do shit i'm fired up yeah it's like viking and some people

it makes them relax but i'm like ready to go yeah i get that but um something after that i'm like yeah i'm ready to do fran with viking and this isn't gonna hurt as much uh but um but my wife's like my wife was about to go like the pilates or something she's like this is gonna be weird she's like why i'm done that was my pilates i'm gonna go take a nap now oh justy uh i have day sex more often than night sex yeah i mean when i was had fucking nothing going when i didn't have three kids yeah i mean it was just like yeah it's so much easier right uh day sex yes but sex no yeah first no it shouldn't even be called sex when the butt's involved it's just a pathology at that point you know what i mean it's like what six yeah hey jake this then you have to make the bed again that and that you

know what's funny is i'm right i'm i'm running out of the room to like go celebrate my day sex in the gym or something uh i i look a uh here we go cory guys you guys know mid-sex is great better than c4 for re-energizing yeah but i did right after that go take a uh i had uh some uh what's that shit that andrew hiller got me into you you put a scoop of it in water and i'll explode and i'll explode i put that shit on subscription and got like a 30 day like amount sent to me every 30 days and now i've like but i don't take it now i have like five bottles of it yeah i'm like what the fuck happened here i guess i'm not very consistent i had i had the condoms on a subscription from

amazon i had to cancel that i was. I was trying to make it. Oh, too many. I'm 52. I'm falling way behind. I looked in the drawer yesterday. I'm like, dude, there's four boxes of condoms in here. Because usually I just reach around in there and pull one out. Yeah.

But I looked yesterday because it's daytime. I could see in there. I'm going to need one. Yeah. Anyway, that's it. I don't want to talk about anything personal you think that guy still listens to the podcast Dan or he didn't have time for that shit now I don't know he said he listens to

last week yeah good point he does he probably is one of those that picks and chooses you know he sees somebody he likes and wants to listen to it oh this is some uh double up use two condoms at a time not a bad idea uh what's a condom uh geez louise the condoms are okay so later on today we'll do a weekend Dave Castro weekend review does he have something up yet I don't know let me look by the way if you guys don't subscribe to the sub clips

channel you should there's a lot of good shit on there I think I can put a link to it no nothing up yet okay I think that's a link to the sub clip station either that or that's to my personal email

everybody check that guy Dusty's doing an incredible job on the sub clip station yeah they're pretty good right and I just I like the thumbnails I don't know I don't watch the clips but the thumbnails are dope that's yeah I agree and the Tyson Bajent videos caught on fire

yeah 11,000 views is crazy for the sub clip station 12,000 views is crazy for the sub clip station 12,000 how do I know if I subscribe to that um you go there and then there's a button somewhere where is it it's not going to be there because you're on the profile here I'll show you oh shit so so i sent them oh i fucking probably sent you something to the back end oh there thank you if you look up seven pod the seven podcast clips on youtube it's the yellow logo not the white one look at saxon panchick on leaving proven that's like the number

one that has 57 000 views jesus crime that's that's our wow that's cool i wonder if um uh let me see something here. Santa Cruz Toyota. My van's been in the shop forever. That's not really cool, is it? No. Dang. They said it would be Friday. The very best service on this call may be recorded.

They said it would be Friday or Saturday. It's Monday, dude. And it's like $8,000. Welcome to Santa Cruz Toyota. They said it would be Friday or Saturday. It's Monday, dude. And it's like $8,000. Oh, I know. I think my dude's name is Pablo. Was it? Pablo.

Pablo? It's been so long, I forgot. I think you're right. I told my wife I would do this when the show's over. I'm so glad you guys are doing it with me. It's easier with you guys here. It's like I'm doing my chores and you're in the room with me. You have reached the service department. We apologize that an associate is not immediately available.

Please leave a message and we will return your call. Hi, this is Sevan Matosian. I'm calling to speak with Pablo. I dropped my van off last week. I don't remember what I had done with it, but it was going to be expensive, like $8,000. It was supposed to be done Friday or Saturday, and I haven't heard what I had done with it but it was going to be expensive like 8,000 bucks and it was supposed to be done Friday or Saturday and I haven't heard from you guys could someone give me a call the phone number is

805-252- thank you bye I need to call the carpet guy you want to call him now I'll hang out with you if you want to call the carpet guy you want to call him now I'll hang out with you if you want to call him no that's okay he's going to give me a fucking absurd quote

and I'm going to have to tell him I'm not doing that and I'll do it myself you're going to put down like the padding underneath it and then lay it down and have a staple gun and all that yeah that's probably what I'll do. It's not a very big room, which is kind of nice,

but it's just, I've never done late carpet before. So it'll be interesting. all right that's it uh see you guys uh um uh um oh darn it damn text news to the uh phone the work phone let me see if the no one's ever texted me any nudes No one's ever texted me any nudes. One person texted me a picture of their body one time, and it still stained my brain. Really?

Oh, please point me in the right direction so I can get a Sevan podcast sticker. Oh, shit, here we go, here we go. Pablo. Hi, I was just calling because I had a missed call from this number. Oh yeah, hi. I was calling to speak with Pablo. Oh, okay, um, he is actually not here today. Okay, my car was supposed to be ready Friday or Saturday and I haven't heard from anyone. Could you check, um, to see if it's ready?

Yeah, give me one moment. Okay, thank you. One day we gotta pull up this chick's Instagram. She is like an 18-time coleslaw wrestling champion. They wrestle in coleslaw?

In coleslaw. It's like just a massive tarp like the size of a big old wrestling mat and they just cover it in cabbage and oil and then they wrestle each other i want to sit okay thank you I better be ready, Judy. I got shit I gotta do today with the kids. Santa Cruz, Toyota Service. How can I help you? Hi, this is Sevan.

I think my van was supposed to be ready on Friday or Saturday, and I haven't heard from anyone, so I wanted to check in. And I guess Pablo's doesn't work today, so I'm just looking for someone to help me. Yeah, let me put you on hold, and I'll check for you. One second. Thank you. He didn't even need my name? You said your name. Oh, he did? Oh. My last name? My phone number?

Social. All right, I'm back. Yep, it is done. Looks like there's a note on the repairer that they tried calling you Friday night. Ah, okay. Yeah, it's ready to go, and it's all cleaned up for you. Oh, you demand. Okay, do you know the final cost on the bill? Jesus. What was that?

Jesus Christ. I don't even know if I'm on hold or what now. Yeah, I don't know what just happened. Is that really loud when I do that? No, not too bad. God, I hate old music. Looks like the balance is $6,775.51. All right, I'll fill the duffel bag up with rolls of quarters and be on down. We'll see you then.

Thanks, buddy. Bye. My pleasure. Tried calling me Friday? You have a fucking app you made me sign up for! What's the point of the app? You sent me a fucking quote on a fucking app with a fucking

link I didn't get to talk to anyone except $7,200 and now you're telling me you tried to call me on fucking Friday? How about send it through the fucking app you made me sign up for? We have a new system in place. I'll fucking... I felt my back go out right there.

I've been sitting around with my fucking thumb in my ass with no fucking car since Friday. But look, you got Daysex out of it so you're right maybe if I would have had both cars operational I'd have been somewhere it's a good point god you're so optimistic you're a good That's crazy though God damn it Hiller says you should have just bought a new one Shut the fuck up Sarah told me I should never fucking buy a car Only lease

She basically said retards buy cars They don't know how to do their taxes I'm paraphrasing She's like the third richest person I know too It's like the third richest person I know too It's like the fuck Hi sweetheart The car is ready do you think you could drive me down there Or should I walk down there

Uh no I can drive you down McKenna's here with the boys Okay cool I'll be inside in a couple minutes I love you Love you Bye 67 fucking hundred dollars That's wild I love you. Love you. Bye. Bye. $6,700. $6,700. That's wild.

You should have bought a new one. You should fucking blow me. Judy, for your van, Sebi. Thank you. The fuck? I knew I should. I'm feeling defensive because I think Andrew might be right. Oh, here. for the van oh thank you thank you thank you Augustus I didn't ignore it tell her the cost great thanks she probably knew what are you a fucking marriage counselor

sounded like I was from the south for a second counselor marriage counselor fuck are you Dan tell her the cost hey I don't even know I was thinking about did you see the comments in there about sharing bank accounts and stuff

no but I heard I heard Dan talking about it. Yeah. In the comments. I mean, did you in the comments or like, no, no comments or people like talking about whether people share bank accounts or

not. Do people do that? Like, is that a normal thing? I guess I, I don't know what the normal thing is. We do. You and your wife just have one account or,

or, um, we, my wife and I've never shared a bank account until, but recently because of the seven on podcast, we started like seven on media LLC or something like that. And then she hooked up all the accounts. So like, you can just go on there and see all the accounts. Oh, not all that's done is made me like now i like it's made me like just not want to do anything do you know what i mean now she got access to it all what the fuck do i need to do nothing yeah yeah yeah i don't want to like like i used to like going in there you know what i mean

and sending money for the electrical bill and sending money for the like just through online banking right but now i'm like what the fuck yeah like you do everything i'm helping yeah i just i don't do nothing yeah i don't want to do nothing the fuck do i need money for she can take care of it all yeah i just spend it uh spicy marg money thank you i'll be using it for the family van oh thank you god damn you guys are wow this is cool van repair it's gonna be a good day thank you dang wow crispies for van life thank you god look at you guys van life um my my wife doesn't though but you know what's really is cool about her so like i came home

from the i came home from the repair shop on whatever day yeah and i was fucking all fucked up right right and i'm like hey i already looked at three new vans we're buying a new van i don't give a fuck i call my mom i'm gonna take her down there to co-sign for me nah and so my mom and my wife are like okay no problem whatever you want and they're both like it's gonna be okay i'm like all right i'm fucking just pissed off and then like four hours later i'm just like hey fuck that we're not getting a new van i don't want to fucking like increase registration insurance and monthly payment. Fuck that. And then I call my mom and wife. They're like, OK, OK. But no one's like like I'm so glad I don't like it's just that I got to me.

You know what I mean? Like they treat me like I'm like a big like an adult. They pretend like I'm an adult and I'm making my own decisions. And, you know, they thought that that was going to be the decision anyway. I guess I should ask. I should ask ask them i should video my wife and ask my wife to the same shit like they're not even weighing in they're just like all right all right like like every decision i make is like i'm a genius but for some reason on some level i feel like i'm getting manipulated the fuck absolutely i told my wife to buy an air runner and she's like okay yeah we're gonna buy an air runner and then i was like i don't think we should buy an

airrunner i'm like oh we need to we need to put carpet down we need to get flooring we need this oh some practical things we need a toilet that flushes without the plunger yeah right right she's like yeah yeah i think you're right yeah it's good that's a good way you wanted that yeah and meanwhile she's calling her friend fuck these things with dicks are dumb my husband my husband's got a fucking 1962 cpu in that brain of his exactly i know they're great master manipulators fuck i used to never do that to my ears now i'm getting old i do all this stuff all the stuff you see old people doing that you're like i'll never do that

that's gross hey eventually you just stop caring it's yeah you should see the hat i wear to the beach it's absurd just the do you wear is it that big big straw hat it's that fucking like the rogue ones. Yeah, yeah. All I need is a steel bucket and something to be looking for money. You know what I mean? A metal detector. Metal detector. I'm so the metal detector looking dude. A little like litter box shovel kind of thing.

Yeah. Found a coin. Yeah. My kids want that so bad those are fun i think it's probably the quickest way to get like a carpal tunnel or tunnel carpal whatever that thing is holding that thing dude i bet you all those dudes have fucked up elbows and shoulders their shit's fucked just sweeping back and forth holding on to something at the end of your arm all the time yeah it's like it's like pretending you have cerebral palsy it's like one of those crutches you know that those people like with the bracelets on them it's like those but you

never get to touch the ground with it you're just carrying a brown pair of crutches that might find you a dime exactly uh yeah if we do make stickers um i i guess maybe like this one like these this sticker is so thick and durable this thing will last through a snowstorm so I don't know those are good stickers that's one I have on my laptop and it's like one of the only ones that's not peeling off yeah it's like a forever

sticker I don't know who wants a 7 podcast to get any haircut cut it again maybe four hours and 20 minutes we set the world record yesterday with Andrew yeah right people are DM me telling me it's gonna take them three or four days to get through it I can't believe people like the pot the podcast I did with Dave or that podcast.

I thought those were like two of the worst podcasts I've ever done. And people loved them. I do not have my finger on the pulse. Just having a silly goose time. Yeah. How was I ever the greatest chief marketing officer who ever lived? I don't even know shit. I don't know what's good or bad.

All right. all right thanks you guys for the help with the van appreciate it thanks for being nice to dan i'll see you guys later on today i'll probably go on live with uh suza or caleb sometime to talk about dave uh dave pod oh uh dave's podcast great also garrett I actually enjoyed Garrett's a lot I hate doing other people's podcasts but I actually enjoyed that Garrett Glinton Garrett Glinton let me see that real quick Glinton things is that the name of her podcast

yep let me see let me check out the comments here and see if I'm okay with the uh hopper is big bird great interview great show i'm gonna give these thumbs up a great interview i'm a day late but enjoyed it first thank you then if i may thumbnail on the show was stating the man the myth the legend but to me the show is more about seven's recent podcast fee the brian friend issue than it was about

seven in a way the last 10 minutes were was it planned that way will you make an episode two oh my god a show about seven's journey the seven podcast life story and finally i sincerely hope that a thousand soon to be two thousands of viewers on the show and also look to other videos keep up the good work jesus cry me write a fucking book this is a terrific conversation thanks for sharing someone is probably the most misunderstood guy from crossfit at least they got my sex right that's good even if i get caught up in his antics and wonder why i've been watching and enjoying his stuff since the day he got to cf he's a good dude period love him and love yourself sounds like good advice uh hillar sent me great show tyler's amazing and such a good friend and good dude oh okay i read the rest of these oh oh

shit there's a shitload of comments well that's cool dude Garrett looks like she's fucking 12 years old she does look young she doesn't even have pores on her skin yet look at we're in a fight here look I'm looking away from her I'm like fuck you bitch she's like fuck you dude listen to me

oh week in review just came out oh shit I just want to see how long it is the Dave Castro Paulina is on the polls um please be short 21 minutes for fucks oh no no no

oh yeah shit look he I fucking knew it. So I guess Bible talk. Listed in there as a topic. Dude, some dude in the fucking comments is like thinks that like he's like, I'm really tired of this Christian stuff from CrossFit. That wasn't even Christian stuff. That's like saying I read like what that's as much saying is like it's boy stuff because there's boys in the Bible or that it's book stuff. I like there wasn't one preachy thing in there.

Was there? No, there wasn't. I mean, we're fucking drunk and eating carbs. How about tear us up for that? You're worried about the fucking Bible for fuck's sake. Worry about me talking about wine and cheese yeah how true yeah how triggered you have to be by the bible to think that there was anything uh uh uh right wing maga nut job christian psycho nut job about that i mean for fuck's sake do a whole i'm gonna do a whole show like this you have to you should you gotta put it on

yes no you gotta put it frontwards you gotta let everybody know what's going on here yeah like that that's good under my headphones yeah yeah yes this is it this is it oh it's even velcro so good

oh my god maga what it's even velcro i didn't realize it was velcro that's awesome i really think it's an ugly ass hat though it's not great i'll tell you that trump my whole outfit today is fucked even though no one ever sees my lower section i'm wearing maroon pants. Oh, my God. I know. It's fucked. It's fucked. I know.

I'm going to probably change my shirt before I go to Toyota. I'm not the humble monk that I think I am. All right. This picture, some people post a picture of their titties, and it comes back to haunt them. This will probably. Oh, that's getting out.'s getting out no revenue those maga guys all right um oh shit here we go my wife's great aunt was wearing the same trump hat yesterday completely unironically amazing today's a big day for trump today's the day they might seize his shit oh boy hey let's i want to show you something fucking crazy i heard yesterday a bernie madoff defrauded

billions do you guys know who bernie madoff is um dave uh uh david sheehan chief counsel to trustee picard stated on september 27 2009 okay you ready for this about 36 billion dollars was invested into a scam returning 18 billion to investors with 18 billion missing. Whoa. So Bernie Madoff ran a Ponzi scheme that defrauded people out of 18 billion dollars. Holy shit. When he went to court and he had to make his appeals he had to pay 10 million dollars okay 10 i think that's right 10 million um uh made off appeal let me see uh um 10 uh 10 10 um i think the judge okay bernie Mados lawyers are appealing to judges' decision to revoke his $10 million bail, okay?

Now listen, Donald Trump borrowed money from a bank, paid the money back to the bank with interest. interest then years later the attorney general this latisha james lady said that when he he lied on his loan documents and in order to just appeal that decision he has to put up 500 million dollars the bank never complained not no one ever complained and no one was defrauded just think about that for a second holy he lied on his bank loan is the accusation what he was found guilty of in the finest 500 million dollars the bank never complained he paid the bank back in loan no one was defrauded oh what's this say olivia not anymore it's 175 million i mean either way this is fucking nuts that's like another thing like how are you new york appeals court

reduces trump bond in a civil fraud case to 175 million it's still it's still just um it doesn't even make any fucking sense. It doesn't even make any sense. And by the way, she ran on the platform for years. By the way, when she took office, she was worth $100,000. Now she's worth $15 million. Now she's worth $15 million. And she ran for attorney general on the notion that she was going to fuck Trump.

I don't even follow Donald Trump on Instagram. Now I do. Trump. What the hell? Supposed to follow all your supporters. how has he not been on this show such bullshit more views on Tyson Bajan sub clip

it's crazy pouring in if anyone says anything bad about him in the comments there I just attack their moms thank you Olivia for that you know what I mean yes I've noticed people comment back he's like you're not even providing an articulate counter argument or something like that well i fucked your mom it's like thank you we don't care you're not even you're not even giving me a legitimate argument he's not as good as you think he is yeah but your mom is

that's not what your mom said dang kenneth oh they're working on the skate ramp i think my neighbors oh kenneth send me uh your address i'll send you a Slack block. I think it's crazy. You got to talk your wife into doing that. Hey, send me. I have like five of them in my garage. Send me your address somehow. If you have my phone number, text it to me.

I'll send you one. Jeffrey Birchfield, how to make friends and influence people. I fucked your mom. After the football team. You did? Sorry. No, I didn't say anything bad about her. Alright.

Don't forget to get your Metoofian. Oh, tennis tournament was wild. Wild. Absolutely wild. It's a whole nother story. I don't even know if I'm prepared to share it. It was wild. It was the evolution in my parenting yesterday for sure.

And in my relationship with my son. Last night was crazy. Last night we talked in bed for like an hour about God. It was wild. But it all stemmed from some shit that happened at the tennis tournament.

I had to explain to him that he's, I had to explain to my nine-year-old son yesterday that you know how he puts on i said if you didn't wear a costume on halloween and walk around would you get candy he goes no he's got to put on a costume ring the doorbell and you get candy i go yeah i go that's what obvi is to the world he goes what do you mean i'm like you're not really obvi you just put that you we put that he's like but you name me i'm like i know that's the halloween costume I bought you for this lifetime. He's like, oh, fuck.

Oh, my God. His shit got all fucking exploded. He's like, what the fuck? Like, yeah, we just arbitrate. He goes, so you're not really seven. I go, not really. I go, but it's good costume for this life. I'm rolling with it.

It's like, so who am I really? I'm like, yeah, that's the fucking question. It's too early for me to try to comprehend that. And if you're not a pussy, you'll find out. And then you'll know God. He's like, but that led it to a fucking great conversation. What the fuck? I told him, hey, don't worry.

Most people don't even get there for they died. They don't even know it till they die. Don't worry. You're ahead of the curve. Bernie Gannon kids have enough problems with identity. I go, listen, I go, you just keep I go. Don't worry. You just keep building Avi till you're like 19 or 20.

Then it won't be enough for you. And you'll look for something deeper until then. We'll just, just keep building on the Avi costume. He's like, all right. He's like, I don't really understand this shit. I'm like, I know me neither, but just telling you. Hey clock. Do I know you? Like like have we had lunch before

like we hung out we ever driven in a car together yeah remember todd marinovich i do who's that he was this redheaded dude his dad was like gonna make him like the greatest quarterback who ever lived. And he was on pace and then he got into fentanyl and heroin. Oh. I mean, he was a special kid. Yeah, he's old now.

Hmm. Hmm. I wonder if I know clock. Clock knows too much. There's some people who just know too much. Too much. Mara Jovanovich. Yeah, there you go.

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