The Sevan Podcast - Dane Donaldson

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:50 No, I have no idea. For some reason, my computer and the TV set at this Airbnb have jumped off the Wi-Fi and I can't get them to go back on, but my phone is on the Wi-Fi and now I'm hot spotting this show from the phone to the computer so I think let's just see if what people say if they say my connection is good so far everything seems great does my picture look clear to you it does to me yeah all right guys sorry about the issues last night the road caster went out ironically Issues last night the road caster went out ironically
Starting point is 00:01:33 Man yeah, it says I got one bar Dane let's Damn this really sucks. Let me try one more thing Let me try one thing real quick here. Let me move my phone somewhere else How's the connection for you guys in the chat everything good All right, everything good everyone hear me good everyone see Dane good I'm going to go ahead and turn off the camera. Alright, everything good. Everyone hear
Starting point is 00:02:10 me good. Everyone see Dane good. Come on guys. Give me a little feedback. No, it's not good. Mark Moss. Yes. Good. Brett Bauer. Hey, Dane. You know Brett. Oh yeah. Yeah. He owns CrossFit Clinton Is that where you go? It's that summer. That's where we go in the summertime Um on saturdays, we have a little place. It's about 100 miles from here and they opened up maybe three four years ago It's been great. It's like six of us go from my little place up there. So it's fun
Starting point is 00:02:39 In what state are you in? I'm in ohio Okay, when I think of port clinton, I think of maine where is that also in ohio clinton is halfway between cleveland and toledo um right on lake eerie Say that again between ohio and where no it's so in ohio northern ohio Like we the next thing north of us is canada Northern Ohio like we the next thing north of us is Canada. So all along Lake Erie runs from Toledo to Buffalo I live outside of Cleveland and they are halfway between Toledo and Cleveland Is where port clinton's at so Sandusky is another city that'd be around there a big Amusement park called cedar point. That's like Disney World. I mean mean it's a major attraction for the summertime. Hey they didn't have to
Starting point is 00:03:27 change the name of the city? No. Okay Sandusky because I know they pulled down the statues. Remember? That's in Penn State yeah. But they got a city called Sandusky too? Yeah it was it was John Sandusky or something I can't remember his first name. But yeah, the coach at Penn State there Yeah, there was a Sandusky and Paterno they were diddling the boys But but they'd left the name and then I think they started pulling down statues and stuff and doing weird shit Is that town named after like his great-grandfather? Okay, no, I believe the town was well there before Jerry Sandusky got to Penn State
Starting point is 00:04:10 All right. All right. Hey, so I met you I I met you at the CrossFit Games. We did We did the funny thing about that is for the last five years I was like first on the line. So we always had the tickets in the front row at the finish line and unbeknownst to me one of your peers actually educated me like on year two or three I would get up and they would take my seat or when something would happen they would all run to the end right and they would want to get that picture and I was getting kind of pissed I'm like yeah I spent you know $2,000 for the wife and I to sit here. You guys take my seat and one guy was very cordial by this is how we make our living now. And I'm like, okay, so I get it. So this year, I was like, I don't want to deal with the media, we're going to go front row on the side of the finish line. What was all in front of us? Every bit of media, right? So all in front of us. Every bit of media, right? So either way, it was still worked out fine.
Starting point is 00:05:15 It worked out fine. So we're just a fan of it. And, you know, there's bigger problems in life of getting blocked by a picture or a camera person. They're there. It's like when a semi wants to get over on the highway. They're working. I'm usually going somewhere for pleasure. Get out of their way and let them do their thing. You have a great attitude. And hey I was digging through your Instagram and your wife was a competitor or is a competitor? Yeah between the two of us certainly she is. I do it to try to stay a little fitter. Maybe I'm off by a spot or two but I think two years ago she finished 20, three years ago, 24th in the world and then 26th and both times they took top 10 in their age group and then she finished 40th this year. She's getting older, she's whatever in 52, so it'll be the third years in her
Starting point is 00:05:59 50s and she is, was she 40th? So they took the top 30. So she's right in there, has been in the semi-finals the last X amount, five, six years. So she does a great job. Did you say she's 52? Yes. Well I'm sure you've heard this plenty times before but when I saw this I thought maybe this was like your second or third wife and she was like 20 years younger than you. That's crazy that she's 52. Right, right. So that's Fort Clinton right there. That's up at our lake house that we have that we hang out in the summertime.
Starting point is 00:06:39 But yes, we are about 18 months apart and I don't die. She's not aging. She's not aging. She, she's not aging. Nope. No, no. That's wild. And she's very humble. Um, big joke around the gym is it's a good thing that she's the good one and I'm not because I don't know that I can stay as humble as she is. Yeah. I told Dave Caster that one time, I go, can you imagine
Starting point is 00:07:06 what an asshole I'd be if I had 650,000 followers on Instagram like you did? You do. Me too. It would be unreal. I keep everybody abreast on anything I've ever done that I think is an accomplishment. There's a running total of, I've only ever completed 152 bar muscle ups in my life. Three of them are international and I bring that up all the time. I got them in Mexico and it's a big deal to me. And my wife's probably done that on a Saturday alone. So.
Starting point is 00:07:39 All right. Hey, I don't see it now, but there was a picture of you with your oldest son when he's a kid it's like when he was in kindergarten, I think and then it shows a picture of him when he's a senior in high school and the remarkable thing about that photo is You look like you you look like you got younger in those 12 years like you got all lean and chiseled So is that how long ago you found CrossFit about 12 years ago? Six, seven years ago. So it was, it's been, I'm trying to think. No, it's 2008, nine years
Starting point is 00:08:16 ago. So it was one of these things. I mean, we all have our story how we started. I remember when my wife started going, so her name is Jen. She started going to a gym. I had not done anything other than run a few 5Ks. And I gained, so I probably, we got married in, I was 26, so 96, 97 is when we started hanging out. I was maybe 175, 180 pounds. I'm 5'10". And we got married and I probably put on two pounds a year.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Was it big? Was it going on? Or two and a half, three? But over a 20 year period, that's 60 pounds. She stayed the same. I kept running. She's lifting weights and doing these other things. And she came home one day and she said, the same. I kept running. She's lifting weights and doing these other things and
Starting point is 00:09:05 she came home one day and she said, I did this new thing today. It's CrossFit. And she had read an article about how the lady that saved her son when he fell off a cliff or was on the side of a cliff and she was strong enough to pull him up and because of CrossFit and lifting and keeping your muscles, she thought, well, look at this guy. He's he's going to **** I might as well be the strong one in the family. So she started doing it and I don't want to say almost jealous but the discipline it took and I was like, well, how much is that and she would say, well, I don't know. I just bought a punch card and you know, I was picking nitpicking at things like the monthly
Starting point is 00:09:45 cost to it and you can do that from home and you can do all because I wasn't bought into being better right she was also you know at the time removing aluminum out of the deodorant I'm like don't touch mine and she's removing fluoride out of toothpaste and don't touch the line. And you know, going down that route. And anyway, she wanted, this is a great story. She wanted Lasik surgery. And again, and it's, I'm like, all right. And I bought a Groupon of all things, right? And I said, look, here, go get your eyes done.
Starting point is 00:10:19 I got buy one eye, get one eye for free. And she's like, are you shitting me? You think I'm gonna use a coupon for eye surgery? I'm like, well, who wouldn't wanna do that, right? So anyway, we go down that road and I can't, she said, I'm not using it. And it was like $2,000. So I called Groupon at the time.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Again, this might be eight, nine years ago. And they said, hey, we're not gonna refund you but you can use this credit amongst the Groupon world, the galaxy. And one of the things in there, it's not the gym I go to now or even when I started was a like a free month, not a free month but I could use the Groupon towards it, right? So I did that. Towards the CrossFit gym, towards the CrossFit gym. Yep, yep. And she was doing CrossFit at another gym and I did not want to go in there. I probably weighed 245 pounds. I watched her do pull-ups and I thought, man, I can't even do a pull-up today, right? You just, in being an ex-athlete and then and I'm not a great
Starting point is 00:11:26 learner college or anything like that but played sports my whole life. I was in the army, attached to the special forces, spent three years with them. So I've pushed myself very hard on things and anyway I went into the CrossFit gym. It was a Friday. The coach did a good job of going through the illness, wellness, fitness, and I'm like, all right, great. He said, then just come in tomorrow. We have a class. And I'm like, I'll do that.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Then I go into good in this class. And I kind of look around. I think like any guy would do the first time before you realize just how tough some of these women can be. And I was like, start picking out people. Well, I'll certainly beat them. I'll beat them. I'll beat them. I'll beat them. And we did this. It felt like a million pull-ups, a million hang cleans, a million push-ups, a lot of this stuff. I left there. That day, it was like Saturday at 11 o'clock. I walked out, did my first CrossFit workout. We were going to a concert in downtown Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:12:25 So I had a limo picking us up at one o'clock. Some friends had come in from Cincinnati. We're going to see Luke Bryan or somebody like that. And we start pounding margaritas and drinks. And again, I'm going to work out, not change any other habits, and I'll just be healthy again. That workout combined with pounding the alcohol and doing the CrossFit workout, I'm going to do some reggaritas and drinks and again, I'm going to work out
Starting point is 00:12:46 not change any other habits and I'll just be healthy again. That workout combined with pounding the alcohol. I went to go to take a pee and it was as black as coffee and I couldn't straighten my arms. They were just I was like this, this really hurts. And, and she
Starting point is 00:13:06 said, Did you read the waiver? I'm like, who the fuck reads the waiver, hon? I didn't read the waiver. She's like, I bet you got rabid. And I'm like, Well, if it makes me feel better, go get me some rabid. Whatever it is, I am hurting. I can't, I couldn't pick up a dozen eggs. My arms hurt so bad. Like at the store I dropped them in the aisle because they hurt. I happened to live right next door to an orthopedic surgeon at the time and my wife called him. He was a sports medicine doctor too and he did his internship at the University of Arizona. So he had dealt with rhabdo on illegals at the time going across the Mexican border making it into Arizona. And he's seen what the how it depletes your body what goes on and he said is Dane there? She said yep he's here and this was like I don't know seven eight o'clock at night we were up at Fort Clinton at our place and
Starting point is 00:13:59 we have to come back to Cleveland and she said put him on the phone. I said all right she puts me on the phone. I said what's up doc doc he said hey what you have can kill you you need to get to the hospital right now and get fluids in you and it just hit me right in the face like all right so they drive me to my wife takes me to the ER and I'm more worried about Ohio State playing Virginia Tech I'm like can you get me a room that's got a TV here? And the guy, and the doctor's like, just hold on for a second, buddy.
Starting point is 00:14:30 They take my CK levels. And I wanna say their test stops at like 65,000 and mine were greater than 65,000. So my kidneys were completely shutting down. And the whole reason I got in the CrossFit was to get healthy to be able to donate a kidney to my youngest son that needs it. And here I'm day one workout one right in the hospital. I spent four nights and five days. It was fairly miserable with double IVs in your arm, right? I don't know if you know
Starting point is 00:15:05 anybody that's ever had it. And it was just urine or liquid in urine out, ringing the bell every time. So they come and make sure and measure it. Very interesting about that, that stay though, and stop me anywhere you want. But the, they couldn't believe I had a couple interns and I don't know the hierarchy of physicians except for watching maybe a little bit of Grey's Anatomy with the wife, but I don't believe she was a full fledged doctor, so whatever's right below that. She just kept questioning me about drug use and alcohol
Starting point is 00:15:40 because I said, hey, well, I worked out for 30 minutes. That's what got me here. And I said, and she's like, then what else did you do? I said, well, I had two margaritas and six beers over a seven hour period going to a concert. She's like, do you always drink? And I was like, I don't always, but it was Saturday night. We were going to a concert, seemed like the thing to do.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And I didn't care as near as much about my health and I could recover much faster 10 years ago than what I can today but it turns out I believe she held me an extra day to see if I was going to go into some type of withdrawal and all I cared about was yeah just making sure that that wasn't the issue. I made it through the the whole series of narcos. You get no sleep because again you're going to the bathroom every hour on the hour. The moment you feel like you're you know you empty yourself it's those those IVs are just draining through you. They finally discharged me out of there and I humbled myself and went to my wife and her gym at the time and said okay okay, what do I need to do? And she said, hey, we have an
Starting point is 00:16:47 onboarding program. Just go through that. Take your time. Learn what you're doing. And so it was very humbling. But the same token, I realized I had a bigger reason to try to get in shape. But that was my first workout ever and always the icebreaker when we drop in at another gym and they say, hey, we're going to go around the room. Tell us your name and your favorite CrossFit story or your first workout. And it's, you know, mine's usually I can usually Trump most of them with the first workout five days in the hospital, but it's still here kicking today.
Starting point is 00:17:23 So and it was that. Did you ever have you ever got rabdo again, Dane? No, no. I was working out five days in the hospital but it's still here kicking today. So and it was that did you ever have you ever again Dane? No, no, no, that's it. Just one and done. Yeah and I'll tell you it was the alcohol. It was the not hydrating. I could have done
Starting point is 00:17:39 that workout. I believe if I would have hydrated taking some time do the right things but the moment I hadn't, I was deconditioned. And again, I did 20 mile rock marches in the army, at Fort Lewis, Seattle, we're up and down Mount Rainier. I had been to that place before. Just, so inside my eyes looking out, I'm the same guy on the outside looking in,
Starting point is 00:18:02 I was a totally different person, right? Like I just, I was a totally different person, right? Like I just, I was a big heavy guy. And so I believe now that, you know, one, I, I've had a ton. And, you know, if I have a drink or two afterwards, it's way different. Meaning like, I've taken in some electrolytes, I've done those things, and then maybe we're going to go out on our boat Saturday afternoon after working out. But I've never, other than being sick, I don't know that I've missed more than a day or two a week in the last seven, eight years at the gym. So you were hooked after that one case of rhabdo and you were hooked. Yeah. Well, I saw what the human body was starting to do. I watched what my wife was doing. I was like, man, she, oh, in the world, um, I want to do some of the stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:45 It reminded me of being a kid again, you know, I mean, it's what it reminds you. Um, if you don't get too serious about it. It reminded me of what I didn't do as a kid. Yep. Right. Yeah. I sat around and ate Ritz crackers and watched TV all day. And when I found CrossFit at 34, I was like, oh shit, I really missed out as a kid.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I'm like anybody else. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, all day. And when I found CrossFit at 34, I was like, oh shit, I really missed out as a kid. I'm like anybody else. I wish I would have found it earlier. You know, I'm glad I found it when I did, you know, and that, um, yeah, you, you know, you hear the term a lot of times from doctors, just eat right and exercise. Well, nobody knows what eating right means. And there's a million things that you could call exercising. Doing something does something. I prefer with a little bit of the attention issues I sometimes have. I like CrossFit,
Starting point is 00:19:36 little different every day, get to go in there. It's different, but yet you kind of know what to expect. I know what 95-pound thrusters are going to feel like, right? You know what those things are going to feel like. But it's still mixed up with different things and I love it. So no issue there. Hey guys, I appreciate you guys tolerating my shitty internet this morning. And Dane, you said in that story that you wanted to get in shape because you wanted to donate a kidney to your son Can you tell me about that? Sure, then that's how I ended up meeting
Starting point is 00:20:11 Greg by the way to telling him a little bit about that So we have two kids my oldest is senior. My youngest is a sixth grader So he's 11 years old So when I go back to the time I started CrossFit, probably when he was 10 or not, when he was one or two right there. We were married eight years before we had our first son. Six years later, we get our second one. Wasn't for many other reasons,
Starting point is 00:20:37 and it just wasn't in the cards. So when she was pregnant with him, when we went to do our anatomy screening, you know, and then it's usually 20 weeks or whatever. I, we go in there and they're, you know, ultrasound and move it around and say to my, say to us, I said, oh, you know, we have a better ultrasound system in the other room.
Starting point is 00:21:01 We think we're going to move you over there. And right away I was like, that's very odd, right? And so we go to the next room and I've been an insurance agent a long time and I happen to insure this doctor that comes in. So it's always a little, you know, I'm now his customer instead of, you know, instead of him being mine. he said, hey, we we found something here and I'm like, okay, and he said, you know, see this right here, this is his bladder. I said, okay, we shouldn't be able to see that. I'm like, all right. And he said, see what happens is about one out of 20,000 boys, one out of 20,000 boys, we all have this valve in your urethra. And about one out of 20,000, instead of it being a valve, it actually grows shut. Your sons has grown shut. I said, Okay, just go in and open it up. He said, it's not that easy. He said, we will, if he makes it
Starting point is 00:22:02 to birth. And I said, What do, what do you mean makes it to birth? We're healthy people. We don't do drugs. He said, yeah, you know, if we get that barf, see what's going on right now is the kidneys are making urine and the urine's not getting out of the body. It's staying in his body. And I was like, all right. He said, and so what you're gonna struggle or what we can struggle with is the baby moves freeformly around inside the mother's uterus. The placenta is almost all made up of their urine.
Starting point is 00:22:41 So they urinate out, then they ingest it back in and that that sack that they're able to move and you know float around in this majority of its their urine. So when they don't have that in there they describe it's like a baby if you had him inside of a football full of air then you pulled all the air out. They they't move, their feet become clubbed, they have all these issues. And this is on the severe case of it. At the time we have no idea.
Starting point is 00:23:11 You put the picture up of Tanner a couple of times and nobody can tell that he's made it almost 12 years on less than 20% function of one kidney is all he has, right? So he said, whatever you do, just don't go Google posterior erythrovalves. I'm like, what's the first thing I did when I got to our vehicle? I went and Googled posterior erythrovalves
Starting point is 00:23:37 and what comes up for him. And anyway, I learned a little bit about what's going on and really what you see is all these horror stories of the kids that think that just didn't make it. Either way, it was a traumatic time. If you've never been down this road, the hospital assigned you a termination specialist. We went in to find out the sex of our baby and now they're asking us do you want to carry this thing all the way through because you just understand it's not going to be a perfect child. They you know they're going to
Starting point is 00:24:14 have kidney problems, they're going to do this, all these issues and I'm telling the wife and I didn't talk to each other for like two days. We just stared and cried like what in the world are you gonna to do? Anyway, the same customer of mine, he had a peer down in at Ohio State, which is in Columbus, Ohio, which is our state capital and said, Hey, I'm going to do a conference call. This is, you know, a life lesson. Again, it's not what you know, it's who you know. He picks the phone up, calls the chief down there of pediatrics, the number one in-utero high-risk OB in the country, and happens to be his friend. And he says, hey, my insurance agent's son, mother, expected son, has got these problems. I want you to see him. He said, sure, come down here tomorrow morning. And this was at four o'clock in the afternoon and there's just no way
Starting point is 00:25:07 you typically get in there but yep came down and that day and how many weeks how many weeks pregnant is your wife she was like 24 at this time and they kept banging the drum that you guys get what it and I don't even know the exact date so if there's somebody's gonna jump on and change, but in Ohio to terminate a pregnancy, it was, we were up against what they start saying. If you go another week, you're going to have to go to Pennsylvania. You're going to have to go. And the whole time, no offense, it's not anything that we wanted to discuss. You know, we didn't want to discuss getting rid of it and starting over. but I see it him and starting over. We wanted to know what was in there.
Starting point is 00:25:48 So again, I went down there and here's their heartbeat, here's this, they're going through these different things. And I'm like, okay. And the doctor said, Dean, what are you after? And I said, I want some assurances that he's going to be all right. And he said, are you kidding me right now? This is exactly what I needed though. This doctor said, look, you're going to have a son.
Starting point is 00:26:12 He's going to have kidney problems. He's going to battle those lifelong. You've got to decide right now. Is this your family? Is it not your family? You've got to make that decision. Doctors, I don't think talk to people that way anymore or don't do it enough, right? And we left there and said, honey, whatever's in the cards,
Starting point is 00:26:33 we're just gonna go. She made it to about 32, 33 weeks to where he had no more amniotic fluid around him. weeks to where he had no more amniotic fluid around it. They had the same, the same doctor, Mike Plant, we go in on like the 23rd or 24th of December, we were going to fly out, I got a bunch of family that lives in Southern California in Data Point. We were going to fly out there, which we've been out there a dozen times, and let's go out there, our final kind of trip before we don't know what's going on are we gonna be in home
Starting point is 00:27:10 dialysis is our life you know whatever it is it's the unknown that scares you anyway from that point he said hey she's getting low we'd like to bring her in tomorrow night so we're talking Christmas Eve and induce labor and get him going. I was like, all right I made my then six-year-old son go out in the hallway and I said doc two things one he still believes in Santa Claus right he does and This might be our last so what normal Christmas in two This might be our last so what normal Christmas in two. Where'd you graduate in the top in your class? You said I was at the very top.
Starting point is 00:27:49 I said OK. Who works on Christmas and Christmas Eve? The very top doctors or the C minus people? It just got it. And he said, yeah, we don't have the number one staff here. I said, is there any chance we can wait? And he said, yep. So we went home, had our Christmas came back in on 27. He was he was
Starting point is 00:28:12 born or he came out on 28. He was born the very next morning, like 29th at one in the morning. Almost no labor, like literally, when they started and induced her her it was a couple pushes he came out he uh oh they didn't do they didn't do a c-section they didn't do no no they tried they they jumped started a cold car is what they said they gave her the pitocin and started started the contractions um i knew two things at the time one if he comes he comes out crying, he's got lungs. He's got lungs he can breathe. If he doesn't cry, there's nothing they can do with it. So he came out, he weighed five pounds,
Starting point is 00:28:54 which wasn't terrible, but then when they extracted all the urine, they got a whole pound of urine out of him. So he really weighed four pounds, a quarter of his body, or fifth of his of his body weight 20 percent his body weight was just Fluid that had been backed up what had happened then or what happens is hey, Dan. Let me ask you a question Let me let me ask you a question real quick. So you're saying I didn't know this but what you're saying is the Embryonic sac
Starting point is 00:29:22 How that thing stays with liquid is in a normal baby in a normal birth when the baby peas that sack That's the fluid that it's recycled and that's your swimming pool water But you're saying because the urethra was closed They that so what was in the sack then if it was just whatever you had before that valve Was closed up. I mean we were measuring it in ccs wow there's a little pocket here there's a little bit here and he's got to have enough in there there wasn't any draining through that's that's crazy that he made it to 33 and if they catch it early enough they'll go in utero and bust it open then uh come right through the mothers.
Starting point is 00:30:07 So they'll do the surgery on the baby. Okay. They'll try, but they didn't get you soon enough for your son? He was too far along. And here's the thing, the damage is irreversible. So your kidneys are hanging up here and there's like two hair like,
Starting point is 00:30:22 just like pieces of spaghetti that come down and insert in the top of your um blad your bladders end round and pushes out and then below that to your urethra thrust his kidneys would make it come down couldn't go anywhere so it just would reroute it to the other kidney so the other kidney was massive just a big storage bank of urine and by the time they drained, just think of a balloon just pulling all the air out, just there's nothing there. And then this one does all the work it can possibly do. Breaking that, you know, so they, as soon as he was born, they broke through the valve,
Starting point is 00:31:02 the catheter draining. You know, he cried, they whisked him away. It was, it was the, there was maybe 30 people in the room. Did they break the, do they, do they break the valve through the, how they do it? They did, they went right through with the catheter. Okay. When it broke in, so there was, you know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:24 And then, like they said, there must've been 30 people in the room. It was not like, hey, just gonna be an intimate moment. What's going on? And then they whisked him away. We were at the Cleveland Clinic at the time and she's in one building now and about a half a mile away and he's in another building, right?
Starting point is 00:31:44 And we're going, trying to go back and forth through that. He would have been two days old and they did the ablation surgery where they went in and then took the valve and completely ablated it and then put nephrostopy tubes in him. So they put tubes right into the back of his kidneys, allowing his urinary tract and everything just to calm down because it had been working and trying to get this stuff out forever. And so then what happens is his bladder is extremely strong but low capacity. It's kind of like if your nose ever swells up, it doesn't swell up, it swells in. And your bladder as it was working and working, working that muscle, it was just the wall was getting thicker and thicker or stronger and stronger. So it really, it deformed up a little bit too. Hence, we go to it since he's been 11 months. I have the same bladder. I have the same bladder. I have a low capacity strong.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Well, there you go. So we've dealt with that since again, he was born. What's that? I might have lost you, Saban. Nothing. Keep going. Keep going. Nothing. Keep going. Keep going. So from that point, I think, you know, we spent 40 days in the NICU. We bring them home. Again, if you've never done that, you're supposed to have your children either at home or at the hospital, then bring them home with you. Leaving a kid behind in the hospital is another thing that puts a layer of armor on you as a dad, as a parent, as a mother. And anyway, I remember a couple of things I learned in life. And one of them was there is,
Starting point is 00:33:38 you know, we would go up every day to see him and we drove separately. So we were going up 30 miles, it was 10 $12 a vehicle to park per day, you know, type of thing. And, and I remember in his rounds would be at nine am, the doctors would come through and do that stuff. And there was six babies per room her room in the in the NICU and about the I don't know second week the one nurse said he's going to be fine and I said well well how do you know she said because you guys are both here and you're here every day she said this one over here no one's visited him yet and it breaks your heart right you know it just does right and next to us there was a physician that his child was in there had a heart issue and they they they were in a different
Starting point is 00:34:32 boat than us we had known now for 15-20 weeks we were going to have this baby that had this issue their baby was born thinking it was going to be healthy and they got hit with news, right? So everybody is kind of fighting a battle that you don't really always know what's going on there, right? Anyway, the one doctor called me on a Friday, I was on the treadmill at home, I was gonna lose 50 pounds overnight, you gotta run and get in shape and- Why, hey, Don, D're hey don't Dane Dane
Starting point is 00:35:06 Were you? Were you losing the 50 pounds because you knew already that you were gonna donate the kidney Is that why I wanted to be a I wanted to be a candidate for it? Okay? Oh, where I was nowhere near? At all and then I'll get there. The first meeting we had about transplant, but I was just, I was gonna start and Jen was gonna do her CrossFit and I was gonna show her that all you needed was an elliptical or a treadmill and this is what you do to get in shape, right? And anyway, the one urologist had called at night, it was seven o'clock on a Friday night and
Starting point is 00:35:43 I was like, oh shit, this is not good, right? I mean, you're getting a call from a doctor. We were there most of the day and she just said, hey, Mr. Downson, I want to tell you before I leave here and I won't see you over the weekend, from my perspective, Tanner's doing really well. I just wanted you to know that. That was another life lesson for me. Again, people wait on information all the time. And because I don't have anything new to give you sometimes, like in, let's say in my insurance business, we're waiting on a claim. You're waiting on it.
Starting point is 00:36:14 And I don't have anything new, but if I could reach out and say, Hey, Savant, they still don't have an answer for you, but I didn't want you to go all weekend thinking we weren't thinking of you. So I picked up something very good from that person. In just the life lesson that a lot of times, she didn't relay anything new or bad or good. It just, hey, from my perspective, he's doing fine. I want you to go all weekend and not hear from me. Great.
Starting point is 00:36:37 We finally get him home. He's about 11 months old and they tell us, hey, he's going to need a catheter every three hours. I said, okay for how long wait a second You didn't get him home till he was 11 months old. No, no, no, we brought him home in 40 days Okay, now we're we're dealing with him trying to get it, you know getting to grow He was four pounds three ounces. We brought him home, you know fits from here to here on you, right? Yeah we brought him home, you know, fits from here to here on you, right? And, um, yeah. And, um, again, try and hard not to lose my older son because all the attention's now on the, the one that's got the issues, right? And, um, right. There's already a generation gap between them. Six years is a long time, you know? Um, and so, and, and, and your oldest
Starting point is 00:37:22 boy loves his parents more than anything. And now he's seeing his parents who are wounded. Kids hate to see like my kids don't even want to see they start crying if they see me get on a skateboard. They think I'm going to hurt myself. Right. They'll start crying. Yeah. And to see their mom or dad who you know, against crying or just me, I'm I like to control
Starting point is 00:37:41 things and you realize that's not in my control. Right. There's just right and you realize that's not in my control, right? There's just, it's not. So he was about 11 months old and we're kind of navigating through this stuff. And they call him and said, he's gonna need a catheter. And I said, okay, you know, and I said, for how long? Well, for the rest of his life. I was like, for the rest of his life?
Starting point is 00:38:04 Yeah, like every three hours. I was like, you know, and I said, well, here the rest of his life. That's like, for the rest of his life, you have like every three hours. I was like, you know, and I said, well, here's the deal. His bladder is so strong. It is a bit deformed. Those two like hair-like, the ureters that come from the kidneys are all stretched out and they kind of come in the side of his bladder,
Starting point is 00:38:23 not at the top because the bladder grew up because it couldn't go down past the pelvic bone. So when he does express, they can push it back up in there, making him susceptible to urinary tract infections because it would just pool over to the side and he's not getting the toxins out. Well, that was a big shock. We went through a woe is me,
Starting point is 00:38:44 you don't understand anything, you know? And again, my wife and I, we tend to, let's just roll with it, do what we got to do. We break it through that. We go have our first sit down counseling about transplant. And he might've been two or two and a half years old. Go ahead. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:02 So you actually do that from 11 months to two and a half years. You put a cap. 11 months still today But today he still has to do okay It I give the little kid his credit he's we've moved to where he's doing it now I'll circle back to this but my wife very competitive in the crossfit space Gets up and has gotten up unless she's not here at 3 a.m. every night for the past 11 years. So her sleep gets broken up no matter where
Starting point is 00:39:34 we're at unless we get our four days of the games or something like that, then grandma or grandpa have to do it for him. But he can go about a max of four or five hours in between it. He can go to the bathroom on his own, but if we did that over and over and over, he's gonna end up with a urinary tract infection. And in 11 years, he's been hospitalized once for it, which is remarkable. Think of all the times he's got a foreign object going in him, right? Yeah. So, he was about two and a half
Starting point is 00:40:05 and we went to our first, let's talk about kidney transplant for Tanner. Tanner at the time was put at the, well, when we were getting ready to put him on the list, he had nothing else wrong with him. So meaning like he was a perfect candidate for this once he got big enough. And I learned that a lot that it's a business too.
Starting point is 00:40:27 We had insurance, they saw that we were there together, that his survivability would be better and they wanna be able to tell any hospital, we have a 99% success rate for 10 years or whatever it is, right? They want all those, that those depth, those matrix points. And they get there by making sure the people
Starting point is 00:40:47 that they bring in and qualify for fit everything they're looking for. Anyway, the doctor's sitting across from us and we're talking about transplant. And you know, I've balking up, saving up for the winter, ready to go on Survivor. I like, I'll last the longest because I got the most fat to lose.
Starting point is 00:41:03 And he keeps talking to her about possible donors. And I said, hey, hold on for a second. I'm your guy. And he said, I don't want to be rude, but without putting a blood pressure cuff on you, and without, you know, taking a look at your, you know, your insulin levels, you're, I don't think you're going to be the one we want it from. And we left that meeting. And I, I was in tears. I turned to my wife, I said, I failed you as a husband. And I'm failing these fucking
Starting point is 00:41:37 kids as a father, period. Because I can't control what's going from this plate to my mom. And I apologize, what do I need to do? And it was shortly after that, here I go, I'm gonna join, I got her her lasik, she's gonna go do that, I go get Rabdo. I come back and said, all right, clearly that isn't the right thing. And we started going down the path together and we were at another gym for a couple years. And again, Jen got pretty competitive and
Starting point is 00:42:10 a gym right next to us, one of the owners, same age group, same level of skill, a little better at some things, not as good at the other, but they are, they were the fittest two women in Ohio from 45 through 50 every year and then from 50 through 54 they still are. They are, it's hard to find two in the same gym, same age group, same everything that, well matter of fact when they did the team competition when CrossFit used to do that, they won all seven events. They weren't just first place. They won all seven events.
Starting point is 00:42:41 So she wanted to go there and book out but all my buddies were at my first CrossFit gym and I Eventually said hey, I'm going with Jen and went over there and and I've been at that gym since 2018 which is just great The first gym I was at CrossFit spirit though is where I did my first and ever Whole30. And that was the first time I ever basically did CrossFit where I not only did the workouts, but I put the nutrition plan together and 30 days, like 18 pounds.
Starting point is 00:43:16 And I was really kind of pissed about it to tell you the truth, meaning like, I didn't want nutrition to have that big an impact. I wanted it to be just the grunt. I didn't want it to be the 23 hours a day you're not working. Right. So anyway, that's our nucleus of our family. And when I ran into Greg at the Games a few years ago, this might have been the last year he owned the company, I think. And we're in the Madison club up on the outside terrace there.
Starting point is 00:43:53 And he was standing there and I'm just like I came up and started talking to you. Worst case scenario say hey, leave me alone. Nice to meet you. You move on and I still got good seats at the games. And let's go. And so I just said, hey, I just want to thank you for not only impacting and saving my life, but most likely saving my son's life. And I knew it was a hard tagline. He had to say, wait, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:44:19 And I said, I started in the CrossFit to become fit, to lose weight, to be able to be the approved donor because my son is going to need a kidney at some point in time in his life. And I was 240 pounds and metabolically completely out of shape. And after four and a half years of doing it, they approved me. I weigh 190 pounds, everything was good. And he is on the list and I'm his approved donor. And maybe it would have happened another way, but I don't know how it would have,
Starting point is 00:44:55 because I wouldn't have found the track to get on and the community to stay with and those things to do. And I just said, Greg, I thank you. And I thought that was the end of it. The next day as I was walking by, Lonnie remembered my name, which was very nice. You did the same thing, you know, and I'm like, okay, that's nice.
Starting point is 00:45:17 He said, do you have a minute? I said, I do. I remembered your name, I remembered your name. Yeah. Wow, that's incredible. You did not. I mean, like, after the first time we met there and then the next day you said Dane, right? I said yes. And they're like, oh, wow, I'm impressed. All right. I just wanted to save. I wanted to save for that for a minute. So Greg's like, you got a sec, and I said, I do.
Starting point is 00:45:45 And he said, can you share your story with these doctors? And I said, yes. And if you remember right, this was when he was kicking off CrossFit Health. And there was a few doctors that were in the keto and some that were into the, right? And they were all there at the Madison Club. Anyway, he said, I don't want to take away from I don't think I tell the story as well as you did. So it's like, Sure, I'll do it. So we went in and I just told him all that. And he you know, in way Greg does, I want to say he
Starting point is 00:46:16 said something like, and this is the reason why I created CrossFit, not for this. And he had his back to the games the whole time in the field, right? And it was, is the impact that we have here. I still... Dane, will you hold on a second? Yeah. Listen, you jackasses, his name is Dane Donaldson. I get a pass on calling him Don. I mean, shut the fuck up. Okay, sorry. Proceed. Proceed. All right. Yep.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Okay. So at the Madison club. Yeah. And so that part was, Hey, there we went, met Greg, got my picture and we had always, again, that was like our time that we would go away to get other than maybe a little bit anniversary. Our kids went with us everywhere for obvious reasons, right? And, and, but the games we'd go and we've been maybe seven eight times and Anyway, that world was trying to that's where we hung until you know And a topic that you talk a lot about till COVID hit and then our world just broke in half at that point in time And I can get into that part too. If you want to yeah, we're gonna get to that I that and that's the part that really blows me Matt Burns sevens triggered listen guys listen
Starting point is 00:47:27 I if you're gonna say I'm triggered. I need a rating between 1 and 10 I don't want just triggered. It was at a 4 6 was it a 9 to just tell me I'm triggered rank me I expect a ranking lazy lazy triggered Yeah, and so that's the part when I met you that you told me that really got me all Yeah, and so that's the part when I met you that you told me that really got me all riled up. So I want just to refresh from being in the bay in the you're cutting out there partner because of the issues. I'm back because of the issues they had in the wound.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Some of the things grew deformed some of the kidneys grew deformed the bladder grew deformed and some of the tubes grew deformed and the bladder grew deformed, and some of the tubes grew deformed. And the boy's been using a catheter to drain urine out. And at two and a half, you go, two and a half years old, you meet with doctors to get a kidney transplant. And that's when he looks at you and says, you're fat as fuck, Dane. And at that point, you're like, okay,
Starting point is 00:48:40 I'm gonna get in, how old's the boy now? He's 11 right now. Still on the list. He's 11, okay, I'm gonna get in shape. How old's the boy now? He's 11 right now. Still on the list. He's 11, okay. Yep. Okay, so what happens after he's two and a half and you guys decide you're gonna do the transplant and then you decide you're gonna get in shape
Starting point is 00:48:55 so you can give him one of your kidneys? Tell me about that, Jeremy. So what we talked about is doing something called preemptive transplant, meaning that we weren't gonna wait for him to get in such a place that he was gonna need dialysis and do all that. So we were going to get all the players ready. So they tested both my wife and I for matches. So just because I want to donate doesn't mean you can, right? So did we match? We both match four out of five markers of what they look
Starting point is 00:49:20 at a blood panel. Five out of five would be the very best you would get, typically a sibling, but not always. The more markers you meet for the kidney and blood type, the less anti-rejection medication they need. And those anti-rejection medication, it just basically destroys your immune system. It means anything that gets in your body is allowed in. That's all because it's allowing a foreign organ to be in their body. So the fact that we were both a four out of five was great. Then it came down to, do we, we are a match, now do we qualify? Both of us went through and we both qualify. When that was, he was probably five or six.
Starting point is 00:50:03 And the reason we did it then, that was his one and only urinary tract Infection which got him pretty sick. He went into the hospital and his levels dropped to like 15 so he was we were allowed to He was he was put on the list at that point in time Soon as he recovered it went back up to like 20% where he kind of hangs out, but it put him on the list. He was on the list. Now let me back up.
Starting point is 00:50:31 He was on the list and I was going to be certified the following week. And I got a phone call on a Friday afternoon and it was the clinic saying, there's been an accident. We have a kidney. We need Tanner downtown right now. And he was like five or six years old. And I was like, saying, there's been an accident. We have a kidney. We need Tanner downtown right now. And he was like five or six years old. And I was like, whoa, okay. We just had this long conversation
Starting point is 00:50:51 that a living donor is better than a deceased donor. Is that right? And she's like, I don't have time for your questions. We need to make a decision. I was like, can I have 30 seconds? And she said, yep. And I hung up with the doctor, talked to my wife and we ended up passing on that particular kidney.
Starting point is 00:51:08 And the reason being was he was in no immediate danger. I was going to get tested on the following Monday, knowing that a living donor is better than a deceased donor. And we knew that somebody else might be in worse shape right now that needed it. So I passed on that kidney and then had a and I went through the process and the moment I was approved we moved Tanner from on the list but over to a side just racking up points and years on there but not accepting any deceased donors. So
Starting point is 00:51:41 everybody else got to you know again, again, he's there. He's in position 1A if we ever needed it, he's just gonna slide right over. So that was at five, six years old. I would go back every year, 18 months, and get re-certified. I'm in good shape, da-da-da-da-da, checking everything. Don, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Once, Dane, once you were certified, why didn't you just do it? Because the longer he can go on, and that's a great question, the longer he can go on his native kidney without the anti-rejection medications, it's going to be better for him. There's only a lifespan about an average of 15 to 18 years from a transplant. So again, if he can go 20 years and then a transplant, he's going to be 40 and then 60 and hopefully, you know, who knows what happens. So that was the reason. Okay. His body parts as bad as they are, are still better than taking one of mine and then filling him up full of meds, if that makes sense. taking one of mine and then filling him up full of meds, if that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Okay. So, okay. That was all kind of going up. And, you know, I'll say my wife was ahead of the curve on all this. And, you know, we, here, we're just trying to hold steady, things are good. Here comes COVID, right?
Starting point is 00:53:03 And it hits everybody a little different. You know, the the propaganda machine was in full effect with the amount of deaths, cases, this going on, shuts down, can't go over there. And, you know, I just had went in that February to do my research. And so he would have been nine at the time or so, or eight. And the surgeon I had been working with that watched me go from, you know, fat Dane to less fat Dane said, hey, you ever think about scheduling this?
Starting point is 00:53:36 And I said, I don't know. Do you think we should, you know? All the information you guys ever gave me was just, let's just let this thing play out Stay ready When it's time we'll go and I said but I appreciate it means like yeah, and I left there late February again ready to go and he's fine at home. I Want to say it was maybe?
Starting point is 00:54:05 September when the first news broke of some lady in Colorado being denied a transplant because she didn't take the COVID vaccine, right? And a buddy of mine said, do you ever think that would happen to you? I said, I can't imagine it would. I've been approved for five years. It's my own son
Starting point is 00:54:32 They're not gonna come and standing away of me giving my kidney to him over a vaccine. That's an experiment I said it I mean so you didn't so you didn't give so you didn't give your son the COVID vaccine. Oh, no, no You know originally when it first when it was rolling out it was, hey, it's for elderly and those with comorbidities. I thought, I'm being a good guy. I'll just wait till the EAU is over, the emergency authorized, you know, or the, yeah, authorized use is over, which would have made it in 2022 or 23 of January. And I'll let everybody that's sick or elderly get theirs, I'm not gonna clog the system. I'll wait till the end Well, it wasn't much longer, you know, my wife started digging deep into it and She became you know this one of those, you know Mama bears that you hear so much about and she's digging through all this information and again and she's digging through all this information. And again, I don't want to say we were anti-bac.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I had everything and in the army, they shot me up with shit I can't even tell you. I mean, I went over to Korea three different times on temporary duty and I was always behind in the shot clinic. So they would give me seven, eight shots at one time, throw me on an airplane and I was sick as hell for a week. You know, so, but as an adult, I didn't,
Starting point is 00:55:47 I never went and took a flu shot. I just didn't, our kids have, our oldest has sparingly had any and their youngest, we had whatever they made him get that day. And then that was it. And it was only because we just, again, my wife, I told you, she was removing aluminum. She's removing fluoride She's going down this path of trying to be as healthy as possible
Starting point is 00:56:11 and Anyway, I get the letter that says Dane Please you're gonna be removed from the the donor list if you do not comply and get the COVID vaccine. So I called for a meeting with the head of the Cleveland Clinic and said, can we sit down and talk about this? They said, sure. I brought their own study in that showed that if you had the COVID virus, you had a better natural immunity than if you got the synthetic shot.
Starting point is 00:56:49 That was their study. I brought it all in and said, here, this is you guys. And here is, I paid extra to have a T cell test results that showed that I had the virus and my body handled it fine. There was no concern and at this time remember the drum beat was if you got the shot, you never got COVID and you couldn't pass it to anybody, right? That was the, this is why you have to do. So, you know, my wife is crying. I'm like, Are you Are we serious right now that you're going to take the best option for my son and remove it off the table? Well, then you can go to another hospital, donate your kidney,
Starting point is 00:57:36 and we'll fly it here and put it in here. I was like, and that's optimal. What What risks are we talking about here? And they're like, well, you can get COVID on the operating table. I'm like, but if you had the vaccine and you had the vaccine and you had it, and I already had COVID, how in the world would I get? Well, you got to understand our hospital policy and you could get the Johnson and Johnson, you could get the AstraZeneca. They just kept going back to their talking points. And- So they couldn't answer your question.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Basically they couldn't answer your question. Not even close. Right. And when I posed it a little different was, how do I, here's what my wife asked that was the breaker. Is there any chance that he takes the vaccine, he's healthy today, he takes it, and then he can't uh d
Starting point is 00:58:26 hard issue or another iss of that whatsoever? Well, but I said, okay, so there and it's all risk, right? who who plays those odds? again, originally I start to be a nice guy saying, I'll just let everyone go first.
Starting point is 00:58:47 But as more information came out, I said, I don't ever wanna touch the thing, right? And so we had to- Hey, I wanna tell you a quick story. I wanna tell you- What? I wanna tell you a quick story real quick, just really quick. My wife needed a new meniscus and
Starting point is 00:59:07 For the insurance to pay for it They had to go in and prove that the old meniscus wasn't there But she had already had like three or four surgeries that removed that meniscus But for some reason before they gave you the insurance They needed another doctor to go in and say it wasn't there and the other doctors like but wait I took that fucking meniscus out like Like I'll tell you it's there. And they're like, no, the insurance protocol is it. This doctor has to go in and see that it's not there.
Starting point is 00:59:29 So when that doctor went in and she had to have an extra surgery to go in and see like a orthoscopic, whatever they do to see that the meniscus wasn't there. And during that time, a cadaver meniscus became available in a window that was too close for her to get it because after you have the orthoscopic surgery You have to give a window break for a window before you can have another surgery, but they're like hey the cadavers ready
Starting point is 00:59:50 so they rushed the The the implant of the cadaver meniscus my wife got such a bad infection that she almost had to have her leg Amputated it was so fucking scary and and that and you know that went on for like three months of her legs swelling and all sorts of crazy shit But it reminds me of what they're saying. They have a loophole that if you would have had your They were willing to do the kidney transplant But only if you jump through this bizarre loophole that had the kidney pulled out at a different hospital and then transferred by car Over to other hospital I mean, this is fucking insanity or helicopter
Starting point is 01:00:32 I could go to we're not we're not talking about trying not to we're not trying to uh We're talking about trying to not pay taxes on a bottle of alcohol where you go to the state next door Right or try to buy a weed from a dispensary at the state next door and then bring it over We're talking about someone's life Well another thing if hey if I was killed in a car accident would you guys harvest my kidney, put the injection in at a COVID-19 and bring it? Well no. Okay again I just it didn't make any sense. Oh that's a great point. That's a right it did it made okay okay so so basically they tell you, they tell you you can't, so they tell you, you can't be a donor because you're not vaccinated.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Correct. They're going to remove me from being his donor. So that happened at the same time. I said, my wife was a, uh, one of these mama bears. She had been working with like these medical freedom fighters, because she saw this coming like way before I did. And I'm talking, if you've never heard of like a Dr. McCullough or who's the other one I'm thinking of that he was on Rogan that did, that invented the mRNA shot. Anyway, it'll come to me. But one of Dr. McCullough's nurses was working with my wife and they were behind the scenes helping somebody else out. And Jen had said, man, this is what's going on with us. And she said, I can't believe that. And she reached
Starting point is 01:01:59 out to a gentleman that has a nonprofit called the Dr. Robert Malone, thank you, Brett. That's who it was. So Jen was working with some of these nurses that were part of this, that these people leading up to it were known as the world's greatest medical minds. And because they didn't immediately jump on board with the vaccine, they were pushed out of the medical community almost, right?
Starting point is 01:02:24 Trying to pull their licenses and do these things. And again, I always think about, again, I had COVID, I'm not saying that it was about a six out of a 10 out of a flu scale for me, and not anything I changed my life for. So I wasn't about to take a vaccine that did not prevent, did not prevent transmission, did not prevent me from getting it, if I already had it and I made it through just fine. So anyway, her working with these people. Support for today's episode comes from One Skin.
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Starting point is 01:05:42 After you purchase, they'll ask you where you heard about them. Tell them Sevan sent you. There was a big nonprofit, a gentleman by the name of Del Big Trio. He does a podcast and show called The High Water. He's an amazing man. What an amazing man. They got ahold of it and reached out to us. And they reached out to us with a major law firm, Siri Glimsted and
Starting point is 01:06:07 Dr. Aaron Siri, who is probably the number one attorney when it comes to vaccine injury lawsuits. He, I want to say litigated one of the major cases that helped OSHA drop the mandate right in there playing around with not playing around with it, but litigate it to the Supreme Court or just underneath that they got it overturned. Anyway, through Dell Big Trees, nonprofit, the high wire, they asked if they could have this law firm reach out to us. And the attorney Elizabeth, I'll just first name on there, she had reached out to us and talked to us about our story or about our situation and told us upfront
Starting point is 01:06:52 that the Cleveland Clinic can do whatever they want, that there is nothing illegal about them doing this. And I'm a law abiding, I'm like, yep. She said, but I think we might win in the court of public opinion. I put enough pressure on them to change because of it does not look good that they had this family son, father for six years approved, just waiting on it. And then they're gonna pull the rug out or make a different demand.
Starting point is 01:07:23 And again, I've heard every argument from both sides. So anybody that wants to say, just take the damn shot and give it to them. I've heard all that and that's not gonna happen. Not at this stage anyway, not even close. But they reached out and said, can we take your case? And I said, sure. And I said, I can't bankrupt my family.
Starting point is 01:07:43 I said, we actually wanna do this pro bono. I said, all right. And my family. I said, we actually want to do this pro bono. I said, all right. And we weren't looking for any money whatsoever. Or we're trying to do anything else other than call attention to this what we thought was ludicrous, right? What does it matter to them? I'm not giving my kidney to somebody else, not to you. This was going to my son.
Starting point is 01:08:04 I did everything, the 5 a.m. workouts for five years and the change of lifestyle was all done for a purpose. Well, not just for Tannen. My oldest son Ryder needs a father as long as he can need one too. I wanna be there. So it was about extending my life but doing the right things there.
Starting point is 01:08:21 And they said, yeah, that'd be fine. And we started going down and of course wrote a letter to them and in the same time, Dell Big Tree sent an individual to our house and spent about nine hours filming a documentary. I actually sent it to you and I can get you the link again if you ever wanna put it up and somebody can go watch it. Yes, please.
Starting point is 01:08:42 They did a great job. It's about 40 minutes, but he breaks down this part of what we're talking about. the I got a call from the Epoch Times and they have what? 40 million worldwide subscribers and it hits there and I got, it's a judicial online forum reaches out to me and they did an interview. And then here came the local news. I mean, the good people of the United States and around the world shut down the Ombudsman department at the Cleveland Clinic with so many phone calls, you know, on our behalf. And that was, that's one side of the table. But you can imagine, guess what's on the other side
Starting point is 01:09:36 of the table? The ProVac, get it? I mean, we've had, we had people threaten to take our children away, that you guys are awful parents. There's no way this guy should be a father. This was at the time before Elon bought Twitter, too. And I didn't realize when somebody says a bot. And what does that mean right. So, there was the amount of messaging coming on Facebook, on Instagram, on Twitter of just, or I hope you die, I know where you live, this is what's gonna happen, you know, we're gonna take, I'm gonna try to get those kids out of this, this household from you, what kind of parent would you be?
Starting point is 01:10:19 And it was- Wow. And then they systematically went after my insurance agency and started doing one star Google reviews that were coming from Russia. I mean all these servers all over the place. And you know, right after the story hit, we were driving to pitch. Wait, they attacked your business, Dane? Oh, when they got together, this core said, this is how we'll get him.
Starting point is 01:10:45 We'll, we'll hit him here and start driving down his numbers, talking about how bad he is at his job. And that's, it's not an indirect, it's a direct, it's draining my finances. If I'm losing customers, they are, don't even get them because they go somewhere and they see it and they're like, and none of them were my customers. They've just would post somet being won't save his son, kidney failure. That was
Starting point is 01:11:13 that was the short part o took out of this 45 minu battle that we've got to at the time before that that, the clinic never asked me one time about any vaccine I'd ever had. You know, not one. And so this is going on, the local news comes out to the house. And, you know, the first one, I could tell she did not agree with me at all. You know, it was not an interview, it was an interrogation. And when it was all said and done,
Starting point is 01:11:50 Jen was just getting ready to turn 50. So I took another like million dollar life insurance out on her from 50 to 70. And I said to her, I said, hey, look over here. I said, see her playing ball in the yard with my son. She said, yep. I said, hey, look over here. I said, see her playing ball in the yard with my son. She said, yep. I said, hey, she just got underwritten for another billion dollars
Starting point is 01:12:11 on top of whatever else we have. I said, and we're the largest life rider in the country or write more applications than any other insurance company for life insurance. And she came back elite preferred, meaning that she is in like a class of 0.4% of the general population from a company that says we'll accept your money because we don't think she's going to die. Now they thought that that vaccine was so important. Shouldn't they
Starting point is 01:12:40 said, no, she's a standard risk or she's table reader. We don't want any part of that because man if she gets COVID because she doesn't have the vaccine again, this was very early on in all this. They would have said can't have it. And I and I want to say that I changed that inner that journalists is opinion like that and it was almost just like yeah, why would an insurance company do that? If, because they're, we're in the business of what? Trying to actually know what you're going to pay off, right? So you collect money, then you go up. So there you have, and I have taken enough calls, certainly now, of people that died instantly of heart attacks. And those things that like, wait a minute, was they even sick? No, just said it just came out of nowhere, you know, it happens all the time. They just died suddenly. I'm like, but it was an enormous amount and I was taking these calls over and over and I always ask the same thing. I said, Sabi, you might, I gotta ask you, I'm sorry that
Starting point is 01:13:41 you lost your wife. Can I ask you a question though? And they said, sure. Let's say, did either of you happen to get that vaccine for COVID? Yeah, we both got it. They had nothing to do with it, cause I'm fine. Okay, hey, you're right. I'm sorry I didn't even answer. And I just kind of kept a check mark over to the side, right?
Starting point is 01:14:00 Yeah. And, you know, and again, this early on, and then I got another phone call from a producer that was out in California that said, Hey, I watched the high wire and I watched your your show, or the show. And I used to produce for CNN in the airport. And today show are a couple other things. And he said, we started a podcast a week or two ago. And the first one that we did was on,
Starting point is 01:14:31 I didn't know you, Dane, but it was on you and Tim. I said, okay. And it was all about, and we're not gonna go deep in this, the money trail from the vaccine manufacturers. And they picked out certain hospitals and how much money they had flowing in there to have X amount of employees and patients be vaccinated. And the Cleveland Clinic was one of them. So again, from what I remember, this has been now three, four years ago, we discussed it, but he went into saying, it was a no wonder when you come and said, man, I think I broke my finger.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Well, let's test you for COVID. Let's give you the vaccine. Bam, there's another 100 bucks or whatever that is. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And it was I lost faith in the system. I was like, you got to be kidding me. You know, I just thought as a group of bunch of bad doctors with bad science saying, well, this is the best we know. This is where we're going to move forward. Not that if you pull the curtain down,
Starting point is 01:15:32 it was about who was getting paid and how much, right? So he had run that one and it was just, it had blown my mind again. So then he had called me and said, hey, what'd you do? So I went on and did another couple hours with him and we talked long and hard about it. But it was it again, it was a giant mess. And where we sit today is, well, I'm aging, I'm now I'll be 54 here in a couple weeks and Tanner is still on the list. He is not he is approved at the Cleveland Clinic, as well as Nationwide Children's Hospital in Columbus. But Nationwide does not like the makeup
Starting point is 01:16:10 of neither my wife or I. We each have multiple arteries in our kidneys, and their surgeons, I don't want to say it's a workaround for us not getting the vaccine, but they do not like the fact that we have multiple arteries in each kidney to give to an adolescent. So at this point in time, he does not have an official donor. But we will we're still very confident in figuring things out, so to
Starting point is 01:16:36 speak. Dane is the vaccine still required at Cleveland Clinic? No, they dropped that now. Holy shit. Yep. So, so it was a time period of about 36 months and they, they, so let me tell you some of the racket going on. So literally when the week I had COVID, I was working right here in the same office. I'm about 30 minutes from my office. So once a week I work from home, but I got COVID. And the only reason I knew, not to mention, the only test I've ever taken is I had a colonoscopy.
Starting point is 01:17:15 So I had to go take the test to get it. And they called me and said, hey, stop drinking the juice. You got COVID. You can't come at night. And I didn't feel great. And I'm like, that makes sense. And so I'm just home working. And I was doing a review with a client
Starting point is 01:17:30 and she was a nurse at the Cleveland Clinic. And I simply said, hey, we did our normal business transaction stuff talking to her. And I asked her a question. And this was the time that if you remember, the media said said our emergency rooms are filled up with non-vaccinated people that don't care about society. Remember all that was going on it's overrun by the unvaccinated. I said is that true and she said we're overrun by
Starting point is 01:17:59 sick people is what we're overrun. People that don't take care of themselves that never have taken care of themselves, whether or not they had the vaccine, I can't tell you. And I said, yeah, I don't even wanna tell you what's going on with me. And she said, I know the whole hospital knows, Dane. And with this a major hospital, right? Wow, wow.
Starting point is 01:18:17 So I said, and I had mentioned, I said, I actually have COVID right now. And I'm doing the Joe Rogan protocol. We had ivermectin saved up. We had vitamin D, vitamin C, all that stuff. And again, I went through it four days and felt fine. And it's more of a testament, I think, to that illness wellness fitness paradigm
Starting point is 01:18:41 than it was anything else that was brought in there. But from that part, I asked her, I said, did, can I ask you a question? Did you have to take the vaccine? And she said, no. I said, you didn't. How do you work there? And she said, well, they got rid of all of us nurses that didn't take the vaccine. And then they hired us back as 1099 that and I'm making $70 now. Right? And that's what ended up happening. So that's where the traveling nurses started going. They weren't employees, they were contractors. And again, I might be off on the dollar amount
Starting point is 01:19:34 or something like that, but I know that she was making twice as much as she said, I got paid twice as much and I'm not an official employee of the clinic. So I'm not an official employee of the clinic. I know that she was making twice as much. She said, I got paid twice as much and I'm not an official employee of the clinic. But she was making bank. She was making very good money for living around here. I'm not knocking it, but it came with that part.
Starting point is 01:19:59 We had a girl at our gym that was a nurse and the moment that the balloon went up in New York city and they were closing everything down and Trump brought in the medical ships, she drove to New York to be a COVID nurse. Didn't, she came back and said, man, the unhealthier gets getting crushed. It had nothing to do with who had a vaccine
Starting point is 01:20:21 who didn't have a vaccine. So all that stuff played into my mind. Again, I started with getting in the very back of the line, but as more people went through the turnstile to get it, I just kept getting in the back of the line until I had enough information says there this does not improve my health. Matter of fact, if you listen to the experts now, or at least the doctors I listen to, whether it be, you know, McCullough Malone or Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, they'll, all of them, they said this does not improve your health. And I don't mean the, you know, people that are out there that took it. I think of my buddies, I had people that took it for many reasons. Most of them
Starting point is 01:20:59 got forced to at work. If you want to keep your job, this is what's got to happen, right? Thankfully, I'm an independent contractor and never was brought down on me, but believe me, the same bots and people that were pissed I didn't take it called our corporate headquarters, how can this guy represent you when he won't do the right thing? So they're trying to oust me out of my career Hey, do you think do you think do you think the medical industry funds those people to do that that they have? Organizations that are paid for by like Pfizer has an organization that they donate, you know via some Nonprofit that goes after people. I would bet the fucking house on it. I think a lot of it comes from disruption and chaos.
Starting point is 01:21:53 And behind that is George Soros and all those different entities that flow into it, right? Yeah. I actually went down, Savon, to Robert Kennedy Jr. for his Children's Health Defense, came to Ohio. And this was right after this all had blown up. And on that panel was Dr. McCullough, Dr. Malone, a couple other doctors, five different nurses that took the shot that were either paralyzed, lost their, now couldn't function every day, all kinds. One husband was just talking about,
Starting point is 01:22:32 his wife had passed away. The gentleman out of Houston that is 16 year old son took the vaccine and died the next day. He was on this. And then so they spoke and then they had me wrap it all up, right? So they gave every reason and the bad things that happened to them. Then the doctors spoke about why it was happening, why our bodies,
Starting point is 01:22:53 every one of us are different. You react different to a Tylenol than I would. But yet on this particular vaccine, it's going to be universal for everybody. And I wrapped it up with these are the reasons why I'm standing my ground and doing these things. And but when I left there, there were people in that hallway that were living, you know, that whether it's the lobbyists that get paid because they don't want the stories out, right. So I think there is something to it. And again, I have very good friends. I don't want a single one of my buddies, anything to happen to them that took it, you know?
Starting point is 01:23:30 And I mean, it was as dumb as reasons that I wanted to go to a concert, I want to travel, all these things that went away anyway, right? I've been to concerts and I travel. It was, and I have a lot and my buddies have a lot of respect for me. They're like, man, I don't know if I could have hung on like, and I was like, wait, Tanner, although there's an issue there, he was never an immediate danger. I would have drove him to Florida, Texas, I would have found the place. We would have went to Mexico. We would have went somewhere that common sense prevailed over it. And, you know, so that whole part of it, when I spoke there, and, you know, and briefly met Dr I spoke there and you kno
Starting point is 01:24:07 McCullough and he's like, your story and it's a tra think it's going to end t right. You know, it conti and then you know, our ow here, I went down probabl and spoke on a patient's able the write to refuse that they can't deny
Starting point is 01:24:25 you services based on any vaccine status and you would think it'd be a no-brainer but it's not. You know it's who pays for the politicians it is a massive massive bureaucracy of pharmaceuticals, right? I mean, Is Tanner, so if you got a call, are you expecting a call at any time now to whatever, where they say, hey, hey, we have someone who matches five out of five markers, bring Tanner down? If we move him to,
Starting point is 01:25:03 so we'd be open, it's very challenging. I'll say this the best we can. If it's not gonna be my wife or I, we certainly want somebody that hasn't had that particular vaccine, right? That COVID vaccine. Beggars can't be choosers. We're not begging yet.
Starting point is 01:25:20 We would love to be able to, again, if it can't be us, because we're using nationwide. So why don't you go down to the Cleveland Clinic and do yourself right now? Well, a little bit of a pride thing. I guess I'm pissed off at them at the moment and haven't been recertified there. Okay, okay. But you could do it there. Yep. In January we flew down to Mexico to Puerto Vallarta to an expatriate doctor down there that does stem cells. And we had a tanner pump full of like 100 million stem cells. And this year he's had pretty good health. It hasn't risen but he hasn't went down and that's the case. We may do that every couple years, you know, and again it's not inexpensive but it's still
Starting point is 01:26:12 better alternative than pulling out at somebody else's organ, putting it in his body, and then filling him up full of medications, you know, and I'll tell you, every parent's proud of their kids and both of mine are fine, but he handled it pretty good. He plays lacrosse, he plays football, he plays basketball, and he may not be able to do those things forever, and it's hard to pull him out in the middle of playing with his buddies and say, hey, you gotta go use the bathroom, you gotta go do this. And if he doesn't, a week later, he's sick, you know, and when he gets sick, he just finished about three days of missing school. What might take your son down for a couple hours
Starting point is 01:26:49 is gonna be three or four days for him, right? He just doesn't recover as fast. But, you know, the clinic, it isn't out of the question, it's just, you know, it was, I feel like the time I needed the most, they said, nah, it's not that important to us. This was much more important. Only to do a complete about face, never call us,
Starting point is 01:27:11 never communicate with us afterwards. Hey, we've come to a different, now that we got more information, this is where we, I had to find out for another friend that went down to get a pre-approved a donate to his brother. So hey, they don't require that anymore. Like, you gotta be kidding me.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Nobody called, so I made the phone call down and said, yeah, yeah, it's not a requirement anymore. Okay. So, like, we're never part of it. So this other hospital, this other hospital, if they got a donor who was five out of five, it looked good? Would we move forward right now?
Starting point is 01:27:46 Not yet, but we would, I mean, so what happens is Tanner gets labs every month. We go get blood and urine every month. Savan, he does. And that shows up down creatin's climbing, bun's climbing, creatin is coming down, overall GFR is here, and it goes on his height weight. So if he didn't take the dump, he only weighs 75 pounds, right? If he weighs 74 and he didn't
Starting point is 01:28:12 get any taller, his kidney function can be a little less this time, but it's really the trends that we look for. There's not a whole lot that would take him and go from 20% to 10%, right? And if it did, we'd be in scramble mode. Probably have to do dialysis, look for a donor, the whole nine years, you know, and, or, you know, again, run out. The wife and I are both pretty good shape and she's, I've uh been the elite preferred know, I'm more of that st rate. So uh, but we would there'd be no amount we w just coming back to that
Starting point is 01:28:57 thinking about they you e want to talk about the od if you have an issue with this vaccine are very rare. Fair enough. So I asked the question, what are the odds of having a boy with posterior erythroba? Well, one out of 20,000. Okay. And who has that child? I do. So let's skip the odds and talk about the consequences if. If I take that vaccine and my body doesn't react to it and now I'm not healthy, I am like these other people in a So let's skip the odds and consequences. If if I take body doesn't react to it a I am like these other peop
Starting point is 01:29:30 I cannot go out. My wife, coaches at the gym, but w our life with, you know, or what she gets from the for it, Tom and Heidi. Bu survive there. And so the consequences, if my body reacted to it in an adverse way, were detrimental to us. It not only could I not donate, can I function and do my career, what's the rest of our life look like? And again,
Starting point is 01:30:02 and when somebody becomes disabled or has those issues, talk to any of those nurses or those people that felt that way. It isn't just that you're stopped working and income goes down. It's an inverse effect where bills go skyrocketing, income comes down, your overall mental health starts fraying away. You don't get better. It's like any time somebody is on permanent disability, again, trying to get them life insurance, it's very challenging, why? Because their overall mental abilities is not as strong.
Starting point is 01:30:37 They're not looking positive on life. They're stuck in their sedentary. They're not out moving around. Again, I'm not knocking on it. Those are the facts of how it is and all that way. And, you know, I just, we left there and again, I kind of summarized 11 years into, you know, an hour, hour and a half, whatever we've been talking here. But it, you know, to go full circle, we still CrossFit every day to to our methodology to try to stay as fit as possible. I the more I've learned about the medical community and I'm not talking about
Starting point is 01:31:14 individual doctors and I live in between two of them right now. They're they're great people that mean well I I don't know that they always know. When I lived next door to the other orthopedic surgeon or we moved out here, I had asked him, I said, Hey, just curious, after you cut on a knee or a shoulder, how much do you talk to him about maybe put some broccoli on their plate
Starting point is 01:31:42 and not cotton candy or whatever else? He said, I don't do it at all. I said, but wouldn't a body heal faster if they ate broccoli versus gummy bears? Oh yeah. He said, in my eight years of medical school, we spent 20 minutes on it. It is not, and I'm not knocking him or whatever. He said- I am. I am. They're fucking mor I am they're fucking morons
Starting point is 01:32:06 They're fucking morons, but most of it is come from a manual that this is the issue This is what we do, right? They're pharmaceutical stooges man that I mean at the end of the day It's basically like they're just drug deal They're they're drug dealers and I know that they have their value but they're basically been trained by pharma the whole entire fucking Uh medical establishment has been hijacked including the the teachings by big pharma. They're just being taught to sell what um What big pharma has to sell it sucks. I mean have you ever watched that documentary dope sick about the about the um the oxxycontin and Purdue?
Starting point is 01:32:46 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Same thing, right. The only answer for Oxy is more Oxy. It's not addictive. You just keep pumping. And I know I know pediatricians and doctors who got filthy rich from COVID like vacation home, purchasing vacation home and fancy cars rich because of the whatever
Starting point is 01:33:07 $149 they got for every shot they gave and Hey, let me let me ask you this real quick Your state your what's it? What's the insurance you sell? What company do you know for? I don't know if I'm a state farm agent, but you know state farm agent and could I buy insurance from you living in California? No, anybody in Ohio But you know, the state farm agent and could I buy insurance from you living in California? Nope. Anybody in Ohio, Pennsylvania or Michigan. But nope, not California. I'm not licensed out there.
Starting point is 01:33:34 So, so, so what states are you licensed in? Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania. And I'm in Ohio. Yep. Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania. So what kind of insurance do you sell? Like car insurance, house insurance, life insurance? Yeah, whole lot of life and business. Those are our mainstays. What about insurance for gyms?
Starting point is 01:33:56 No, that's a tough one. You know, and I'm very, very good friends with multiple gym owners. And our current one at Hiker, very very good friends with them. It's just, it's not a risk pool that my company has figured out or wants to dabble in. So it's unfortunate but no, I have a good friend. And if someone wants to use you, can you give out your phone number on here? Yeah, I'll give you my cell phone. That works right? if you if you or or however However, like I'm just saying if there's listeners here It really pisses me off that pharma fucking sends their stooges over you to Yelp and gives you a one-star And I know that there's a and Crossfit errs I know normally just want to work with other Crossfit errs
Starting point is 01:34:37 Like I have this guy buys real estate for a living and all he does is call areas in other states And he'll call a CrossFit gym and be like, hey, do you have a real estate agent there and a mortgage guy there? And they're like, yeah, why? And they're like, because I want to buy a house in the area. And he knows if those are usually going to be, that's the best way to vet someone, right? So how would people get in touch? I bet I have 45, 50 families at our gym and they're all great. One of my buddies, Michael Pankow, I didn't even know him well. the said I don't care my current insurance agent doesn't he doesn't crossfit I'm all in you know and so yeah
Starting point is 01:35:26 I'd say the easiest thing is is probably if you just type in dane donelson.com it'll go to my it'll go to my site there and um you know it'll you know get right over there and and again I didn't come on here looking for business or any of that stuff oh, I know, I know. More than anything it's just, yeah trying to stay some common sense on some stuff like again we're not, I wasn't trying to take my kidney and sling it all out from everywhere else. See I got those google ratings back up. I had to get rid of those. I know I met you at the yet No, no, not Don Danielson Dane Donaldson, yeah, I know
Starting point is 01:36:12 And I I met you at the games and we talked briefly and I was just like dude I got to get you on the podcast So no one no one should think that that that at all and I and I really appreciate you sharing your story It's just that um How we spend our money is a huge way to vote And so if someone lives in ohio, michigan or pennsylvania and they want to support a guy who's fighting the good cause and who? Goes to a crossfit gym and uses his money to to pay for gym memberships and it's it's really the best way we have power
Starting point is 01:36:43 um So so I just wanted to make sure I got that don't you could just I just it was easy DaneDonaldson.com so if anyone's in those areas, Ohio, Michigan or Pennsylvania and you're looking for a go to him. He's the guy I Appreciate it. I do but again, I'll say that wasn't the reason I came on here, but I Yeah, you know I'll say this, you know, we listen to you guys often, my wife she loves you and Hiller so it's on all the time I come home it's going and the fight of getting back to getting people healthy again, what went out of the games that we all talked this tragedy it was
Starting point is 01:37:23 but the same token when we're working through it, there was three quarters of our gym didn't even know what happened at the games. They, they, they don't follow that part. So to speak, you know, the death of Lazar. It was, they're still just in there grinding out every single day. And when I listened to you and Susan talk about that stuff, or when Greg comes on, that's still the very core of it. It's, you know, our group that I have over here
Starting point is 01:37:48 at High Gear is unreal. And then one on the weekends in the summertime up across the port Clinton, great group of people. And there's something about getting together and suffering with others and having fun. And again, in the content that you bring forward and the microscope you keep on, what's going on and what's important is greatly appreciated.
Starting point is 01:38:11 So don't, I mean, just keep fighting the good fight out there. It's a wealth of knowledge. I feel like every time you have Greg on, it's like a business class for me though. And I've owned a business for 22 23 years And I pick up something every single time that you have him on that helps me in my business. So keep doing that It's amazing for me anyway
Starting point is 01:38:38 Thank you brother, I appreciate you coming on I appreciate you staring sharing your. Congratulations on being a great dad, having a great wife, and please don't touch. Yep, take care, buddy. I appreciate it. We'll see you. Thank you. Yep, have a good day. Okay, bye. Wow.
Starting point is 01:39:00 Make it extra numb. Man, oh, man, oh, man. Extra nums man. Oh man. Oh, man What a crazy story to have someone fuck with your kids All right, uh I think I'll be back in 47 seconds. When you're not here on the outside, it's just me and my wife. And it's just me and her. And we worked 24-7 because we were retired.
Starting point is 01:39:39 And to be around people, it's that sense of community, belonging, and belonging to Salty Hive has been enriching to us and that's why we keep coming back because we not only go there it's good people good times and we enjoy doing the exercise and enjoy the company. The same people who claim that they want to, the same people who want to abort babies don't want to help this guy save his kid's life. So there it is. If you don't take the injection, you lose your job, your kids can't go to help this guy save his kids life. So there it is. If you don't take the injection you lose your job, your kids can't go to school, you can't go to restaurants, and you can't save your kids life.
Starting point is 01:40:53 Fucking nuts dude. I'm not worried about politics it doesn't matter they're all just the same they're just the same it's just the same thing I'm the bigger picture guy I can see it all fuck you you can't see shit you can't see shit I'm sober as a whistle I did it I did did it. I did uh, I did a workout yesterday I called it the liberal. Wow. My tits are kind of sore actually from that Uh If anyone wants to do the workout I did yesterday, you know what i'm thinking about starting a blog i'm thinking about starting uh a blog
Starting point is 01:41:38 I don't know who's gonna do it for me Who wants to just work their ass off and deal with me who wants to put in two hours a day of work? And start a blog i'm gonna start my own fitness organization to compete with Greg's and CrossFit I'm gonna a blog I'm gonna steal the old blog that Greg used to do and I'm it's just gonna be a workout and a picture And There'll be columns of the seminars seminars I'm gonna do I don't have any seminars so there won't be much shit in there and it's going to be I'm gonna
Starting point is 01:42:13 there's gonna be a workout in there every day no it's gonna be called I'm gonna steal fucking chase and Bill's name it's gonna be called og fit it's fucking hard it's fucking hard. It's fucking hard running a blog. And it's going to have the, it's going to be, it's going to look just like the old CrossFit.com blog. Identical. There'll be, uh, uh, events, uh, the blog with the pick, the workout and the picture.
Starting point is 01:42:39 And then I don't know what, I don't remember what was on the other column. Oh, uh, oh, so there'll be the affiliates you'll get you all have Travis make a flag so they'll be all my affiliates on one side and then on the other side will be all my seminars and then in the middle will just be the workout and the Who wants to do that who wants to work for me for free who wants to help me build my shit and make me rich The first workout is gonna be called the liberal And it's the workout I did yesterday. I set a clock
Starting point is 01:43:15 for 15 minutes and I did 10 push-ups and then with the remaining time on the minute I did lunges and I did that for 15 minutes So basically you do 10 push-ups as fast as you can and then you do as many lunges as you can and then when it gets To the second minute you do 10 push-ups. I ended up doing like 150 push-ups and like 330 lunges Do not no one DM me and be like
Starting point is 01:43:47 Do not, no one DM me and be like, you guys betray yourself. People betray themselves when they DM me and they want to do stuff. Because in their warning, it makes me realize that they're not really into it. Yeah, it could be Seve-Fit. I guess I don't have to still Bill and Chase's thing. Could be Seve-Fit. guess I guess I don't have to still bill and chase this thing could be seve fit Yeah, I need more than ten minutes I appreciate it, but anyway more than ten minutes How's my connection god, I'm really fucking pissed at how bad that connection is right now Want to call Sarah and ask her about it because she does so much for me already
Starting point is 01:44:30 Here stay at my beautiful luxury condo right on one of the best beaches in the world And then what am I supposed to do call her and um, uh, it sucks now my connection sucks What am I supposed to do calling be like hey the internet doesn't work here? Uh ck kevin I have to be bought. Sorry se Seve. Hey dude, I understand. I fully get it. I'm... nothing gayer than lunges in place. Totally. That's why I call it... I call... this workout would be called the liberal. But dude, I was sweating like a pig when I was done. And my arms are sore. My chest is sore from those pushups. And I do a lot of pushups.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Like that's kind of a staple. So for me to get sore. By the way, was there a discussion about getting drunk and being in a, like a going down the river with Susie? Was that, I was trying to follow that thread. I half chubbed when I heard that. All right. There won't be, I don't know, there won't be any fees.
Starting point is 01:45:46 There won't be any fees. At least for now. You just have to, you just have to buy a flag from Vindicate, VNDK8 and put it up in your gym. That's it. They're just like, there won't be any seminars at first. I'll advertise other people's seminars. We already have, we have the, we have the, the, it's the best podcast in the space with
Starting point is 01:46:15 the best listeners, with the best competition show, with the best affiliate business show, with the best affiliate videos. It's like, what the fuck is going on here? I just need to, I just need a blog Seminars yeah, we'll do seminars will purposely spell it wrong on the site upcoming seminars. Thank you Judy Reed hi Judy. Can we all say a huge congrats to Corey Leonard on qualifying for Legends? No, fuck him!
Starting point is 01:46:49 I mean, fuck me. Yeah, especially if you got double D's. Speaking of double D's. Jesus, Jake. Jesus, Jake. Wow. Wow. Jake, Jesus Jake. Wow. Wow. Jake, did you think twice before you sent that? Did you type this out and then were you like, oh my God, I don't know if I should send that? Yeah, coming soon. The Sevan Semenars coming soon.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Yeah, that would be great. That's good. Solid. But I know that was crass. That was I need to uh never wondered if you should send it. I don't know. I don't know. Uh't know not at all Wow Wow Heidi Krum I deal with these type of men all the time I am a Swiftie yeah well when you're hot, that's what happens. Dudes just want to dump loads on you or around you. Any preposition around
Starting point is 01:48:30 you, near you, over you, under you. And you do love the positions in their semen and you. Perfect threesome. I am very unsettled with my internet connection. Should I? Should I? I have my phone over there and I'm hot spotting this through my phone and I can tell I have one bar. I keep freezing. When I freeze, can you hear my audio?
Starting point is 01:49:18 I could try switching networks while I'm live on the air. I'm live on the air. Okay, thank you. That's good. That's good input. Thank you, Kipping It Real. I haven't lost your audio since joining. All right. All right. I had a fun time last night with the boys with Andrew John It was Bryson's kind of debut on the show Caleb Who else was here Hiller Hiller was spin on the show who was on the show last night Hiller John Bryson Hiller John Bryson Caleb
Starting point is 01:50:27 Khalifa has serious beef after that show. I mean, those guys are crazy. Kalipa's got to be the fourth most popular CrossFit Games champ ever. Yeah, Tyler's always good. Tyler would have been good for that discussion last night. Yeah, I agree. I should, Bill Graham, then I will, who has the same kind of old school, um, back with me, but he, but he was busy. Uh, Susie, uh, I gotta go wash my hair. Cool. Send pictures.
Starting point is 01:51:08 Oh, you're losing my audio. Fuck, I'm outta here. This sucks. Your butt looks good good are those new shorts Your butt looks good in those what are you doing? You bought milk from one carton and poured it into another carton All right You bought milk from one carton and poured it into another carton? Oh Alright I don't have my, I don't have my
Starting point is 01:51:56 Just tell Sarah Am I, am my road caster stop working too? This is fucking nuts Just tell Sarah I know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna My road caster stopped working too. This is fucking nuts. I know I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna hang out with Sarah and Paul tonight. I'm gonna try to I'm gonna I just don't want to bug her. She's done so she's done so much for us. um It says my firmware is uh It says my firmware is
Starting point is 01:52:30 2.1.2. I think that's the most current firmware. I know my this is my hair. I don't know my hair is just whatever I should probably get a haircut today. They don't have their turn there. My boys don't have their hair and they're not on it. They're playing card or something right now. Five minute AMRAP, Jeffery Burchfield, one snatch, eight burpees, two snatches, eight burpees and so on for five minutes. Wow. The cool thing is that if you do have time for the blog, it will be huge.
Starting point is 01:53:34 But look, if you're not like a beast, like if you are, if you have any pussy and you do not reach out to that. Reach out I want to try to turn my roadcaster back on and try hooking it up one more time There's not even it's the old road. I'm wondering if something happened to my computer like the software updated on my computer Oh, Mac OS Sequoia is available. So first the chief of police of New York steps down and now the mayor of New York, complete pro-vaccine dude, anti-meat guy, wanted to stop the sale of meat in New York City. Now he got indicted by the feds yesterday. It's fucking awesome. I Don't even do All right, I'm out of here losing my shit. All right. I love you guys. What's today? It's today Wednesday Thursday
Starting point is 01:56:01 It showed up in scribble on today. I need my calendar. I don't even know when that show is Moatbell yeah biggest programming show in the space. I mean this place, this is a one-stop shop for all things CrossFit. I mean, SebiFit. You think they went after Adams because he was coming out against illegal immigration? I know that's what he wants people to think. What happened? He was taking money from the Turkish government. Is that what was happening for his campaign?
Starting point is 01:56:40 Your signal just got 10,000 times better. Oh it jumped over to another network. Oh no, wait I don't... Oh yeah I just jumped jumped onto another network. It jumped off my hotspot, now I'm on spectrum D1. No, my shit's slow. It's so slow. And did you guys hear about the covid czar in New York City? It's just endless. The covid czar in New York City just got in trouble for having sex parties.
Starting point is 01:57:49 He shut down the city, pulled a million kids out of fucking school for a year. Didn't allow Kyrie, uh, whatever that guy's name is, to play in the NBA without the vaccine. And that guy got busted for throwing huge sex parties during COVID. They caught him on video saying he was banging a bunch of chicks at his house on drugs, drug fueled. He was doing, he's doing like small versions of the Diddy Freak Off. Hunter's coming on soon. I reached out to him yesterday to see if I could get him on the show. Hunter will be back on soon.
Starting point is 01:58:36 We had a little hiccup in our relationship. I said something about him on the show and one of you assholes ran and told them Do you know what someone said about you man man man It's so lame No, I'm gonna I'm gonna go on a walk here in a minute I Said what did you say about him? I said He's undefeated in high rocks and they had their first drug testing and, um, he didn't win.
Starting point is 01:59:29 What's the irony of that? And he called me and he's like, dude, you fucking asshole. Is that the way you treat your friends? And that's it. I've it's totally valid what he said. I own that. I was like, yeah, that's not cool. I Own it
Starting point is 01:59:54 And then and he said that was my second strike I there was another show he did where we were talking about Relationships and he said something about younger girls not being fun to date and We made a reel out of it. And I guess he got a bunch of shit for it So he said he that really pissed him off I actually pulled that reel down because it pissed him off so much I Do view him as a friend here's the thing with hunter I think hunters jaded a little bit and he thinks the world is just full of assholes who are just out to get theirs and So I don't want to be that. I don't want, so I understand that like, I don't want to be that person in his life. I want them to show that like, hey, we're not the world. That's not the world.
Starting point is 02:00:44 What? Do you know how to scratch your balls? You're not supposed to scratch, when you scratch your balls you don't actually scratch them you just pinch. Like this? No, you don't reach in there just from the outside of your clothes you pinch the testicles and you roll them. Like if your balls ever itch you just, um, you get what I'm saying? I know I saw you itching your balls. What I'm saying is though that you don't actually ever scratch the balls you just you get what I'm saying I know I saw you itching your balls what I'm
Starting point is 02:01:05 saying is though that you don't actually ever scratch the balls you just pinch and roll the sack in your hand gentle though you don't want to hurt the eggs inside the balls you know what I mean yeah like if it itches like I was just doing it mean you were scratching our nuts at the same time but I was using the pinch and roll technique and you were using the actual scratch technique scratching is easier? Oh, when they get bigger you'll see you can't really do that. You have to do the pinch and roll. You don't actually um, you don't actually scratch them. You just pinch. No.
Starting point is 02:01:45 You can scratch your shaft, I mean gently but You know what I mean? Okay, well you will know someday The scrotum you know like when your balls itch yeah pinch and roll. Thank you Philip Yeah, you just pinch and pinch and roll it a little bit pinch and roll it a little bit. Yeah, so every yeah every it's like no one even has to teach you that but I was just teaching one of my boys that. Oh hi. Audrey I love learning man shit. Yeah
Starting point is 02:02:26 Just pinching you kind of just pinch it and roll it and that itches it. It hurts but not like in a painful way. And that hurt is actually kind of like the itching. I'm doing it now. Pinching and rolling now. All right. You're painting and listening. Raise your hand if you just scratched your ball. Oh, yes. David's a team player.
Starting point is 02:03:14 All right, so I'll take that off my list. COVID's are in New York, it's busted for shutting the city down, but fucking a bunch of people at drug-fueled parties. That's fun. I'm loading another page. I wonder if that fucks everything up. Let's do one story. This one's absurd. Top Google lawyer coached Kamala Harris debate and tech antitrust watchdogs are crying foul. This is a crazy story. story a top lawyer for a top lawyer a top lawyer for Google and the search Giants landmark trial with the US government is also a
Starting point is 02:04:13 visitor to the Kamala Harris campaign and Tech antitrust watch watchdogs are calling the cozy relationship out the boost has learned And a double header that turned heads across the beltway, Google attorney Karen Dunn last Tuesday delivered an opening defense in Virginia Federal Court against the Biden-Harris Justice Department's lawsuit targeting its digital ad business, and then reportedly raced out of the courtroom
Starting point is 02:04:42 to assist Harris in that same afternoon with final preparations to take on Trump in Philadelphia You couldn't have scripted this any better if you were writing Jeff Hauser executive director of the revolving door project. So this lady Defends Google in a lawsuit Against the Biden Harris administration and then later on that day goes over Kamala coaching on how to deal with Trump. Dunn is the top litigator at the white shoe law firm Paul Weiss, whose chairman Brad Karp is heading up a lawyer's committee
Starting point is 02:05:25 For kamala harris to raise cash for her white house bid. She is tasked with defending google against uh doj case That is seen as an existential threat to its business model of fucking nuts Fucking nuts Meanwhile the department of justice released that, the manifesto from the most recent shooter at the golf course saying that he'll pay $150,000 to anyone who finishes the job. But they won't release the manifesto of the tranny who shot up the Christian school for seven months because they don't want copycats
Starting point is 02:06:13 In further news Bill Maurer had a lady on the other day I Think she was from NBC News and she was saying that Kamala doesn't need to do any interviews and we don't need to know any of her policies because all that matters is stopping Trump. And then two days later she does an interview with Kamala Harris. I wonder if Kamala Harris's campaign saw that and was like, yep, let's do an interview with her. She knows that Kamala has nothing to say and will go easy on her. It's cuckoo world. Oh, it doesn't matter, Seve. They're just the same. It's the same. It doesn't matter who wins. They're just the same.
Starting point is 02:06:59 It's all being controlled by the Jews in Israel. Well, I'm stupid. And I got a fucking horse in the race. God, I want my connection to be good. I want my road caster. I want to I'm going to try to play this video here. Tell me if this plays or if this stutters. If this stutters then then I'll save it and use it again. Here we go. I found two pieces of gum down there on the turf. Blatant disrespect one. down there on the turf. Blame disrespect. One, two,
Starting point is 02:08:11 find out who it is. You obviously cut three. If it happens again, I'll fucking forfeit the other game. It's fucking horse shit. I ain't got nothing to lose. I'll go one in nine, but I'll have the fucking best feeling the motherfucking nation. But you want to piss on my shit. Hands out, hips down. We'll go until I'm tired. Hurry up! Hurry up! Hey, go the fuck home, man, if it's bullshit. Get down, Cottrell! Fat fuck! Get down, you fat fuck!
Starting point is 02:08:34 Yeah, get down, Cottrell, you fat fuck! Blue helmet, motherfucker, get your fat ass down! Up! One! Up! Two! Up! Three! Up! Motherfucker get your fat ass down Coach found two pieces of gum on his astroturf his afro turf Two pieces of gum on the field and this is what he says to the team I
Starting point is 02:09:05 Found two pieces of gum down there on the turf. Blatant disrespect. One. Two, if I find out who it is, you obviously cut. Three, if it happens again, I'll fucking forfeit the other game. It's fucking horse shit. I ain't got nothing to lose. I'll go one and nine, but I'll have the fucking best field in the motherfucking nation. If you want to piss on my shit, hands down, hips down, we'll go
Starting point is 02:09:25 until I tire. Hurry up! Hurry up! Hey, go the fuck home there if it's bullshit. Get down, Katrell! Fat fuck! Get down, you fat fuck! Blue helmet, motherfucker, get your fat ass down! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up! Up ass down! Ha ha ha! What? Don't film that, you did a shitty job. We need a wide angle. Oh is that what this is? Uh, that's Last Chance U? That's a TV show? God it's so good. God it's so good Man it's so good. Hey did that stutter when it was when it was playing for you guys I hate it when the Instagram videos stutter. I know they stutter on um
Starting point is 02:10:21 On Caleb Starlink On Caleb Starlink Shows shows great. Oh, I lost my exerciser overlay. Where's my exerciser overlay? There we go. Okay. Yeah, the other coaches can go fuck off. Also, listen to what the other coaches said. Like he said, forfeit games and calling up player that's not cool. Yeah, that's perfectly cool
Starting point is 02:11:06 Fuck that. It's perfect Absolutely call people out Jackass I took it off last night. Yeah, just because we had someone stuck behind it Listen, if you're a man, if you're a boy, and your coach is talking to you like that, you're good to go. Oh, my wife just told me I have to get off the podcast. Yes you did. Yes you did.
Starting point is 02:11:44 Yes you did. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. Yeah, boys need to be spoke to like that by their coaches, not their parents. And boys like that shit. Especially when there's a group of them. If it was just like one boy, maybe not. It's abusive. But when you got a whole squad like that, and it's you against them. That's how you talk to him. I know I know stuff Now it's all good rambler don't worry about it, it's all good All right all good. Alright, time to go play with the kids. Love you guys.
Starting point is 02:12:32 No, you're not talking about anything, Rambo. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Love you guys. Bye bye.

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