The Sevan Podcast - Erica Folo | Jacked As F***

Episode Date: January 7, 2025

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Bam, we're live. Sorry about that guys. Yeah, we had a double schedule this morning and we had two shows on the schedule for 7 AM. And Jeffrey Birchfield sent me a text message and I erased it in one place, but I guess I didn't erase it in the right place. So I think we're good now. Sandy says we're good now. Standy says we're good now.

It's gone. Jethro. Good morning. Edging. Hi, Kenneth. Yo, this is the real one. This is really me. I got some new, uh, hair clay.

Try to hold my beard down, but I didn't get, have time to use it this morning. Maybe it'll make its debut tomorrow. What is tomorrow? Today's Sunday. God, it feels like Monday to me. I can't believe it's Sunday. I wonder what time zone a folos in. It's crazy to get up at 6 a.m. dog. Still alive. My dog still alive. She seemed to have a good night's sleep. I heard her dreaming a lot. She was doing that barking and like kicking her paws and shit. My kids are like, is she dying? Is she dying?

I'm like, no, just dreaming. Just dreaming. Fidas. Hi. How are you, buddy? Good to see you. Tucker. Good morning. Oh, look, there she is. Hey, how are you? Good. Oh, I have the wrong audio on. Let me see if I can fix this real quick.

It's not fair because I feel like I know you. What? Yeah, because I watched the Hiller video twice and then I watched you on spin. Oh, yeah, yeah. The Hiller video is long. That's what I was worried about. I was like, it's 40 minutes. People are going to know a lot about me by the end. Yeah, it was cool. But it is weird because I watched the hill or video once and then I watched it again last night Yeah, thank you for joining me on my workout and

then I watched the spin video and Man, you it's crazy. Are those the only two videos of you on YouTube? Have you ever done a podcast before or an interview? Uh, No, I did I did do one last year before semis. With Scott Schweitzer Clydesdale media? No be friendly. Oh wow okay cuz I couldn't even find you couldn't find that. No yeah I was on their podcast for a little bit right before semifinals last year but that was my first one ever. Yeah crazy cuz uh there's I found a bunch of Erica Folos or just Folos or YouTube serves up a lot of stuff, but none of them.

Yeah. Yeah. And you filled it, man. You're a natural. Congrats. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Yeah.

The Hillard video was really fun, honestly. I kind of loved it. I loved like having someone with me for 48 hours. I was like, this is kind of awesome. Just like, because usually you go through that routine by yourself. Yeah. So it was really entertaining bringing someone else with me. Even though we had to sit in the back seat the whole time. That was probably my favorite part.

Like the fact that my door couldn't open because I remember I was talking to my friends and I was like, do I just take my parents car the whole time? Because like, I don't know, I feel bad that he has to sit in the back. And I was like, you know what? It's part of the experience. Yes, it's in the back. Did he try to fix it? No, no, no. He said it was an easy fix. Cause it is. I'm pretty sure. Cause I think you just have to get the one part fixed, but I don't know exactly. I'm not a carpenter at all. Is it still like that? Yep. Um, he is, he is one of those friends where he'll come to your house and he'll fix your stuff. I remember, uh, okay.

With my shoulder or my, my bicep, something was bugging me when he was at my house. Yeah. He's like, come outside, take your shirt off, bring me a butter knife. And he got a butter knife and like some lube and he's here's this buff grown man working on my shoulder for 20 minutes. Yeah. Fix my bicep. I was like, man, this is a good dude. Fix my elbow. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, when he said he could fix it, I was like, oh, I just like sucked it up.

You can't open the door. You can't open the door. All my friends have to go through the back. And then they just hop over the seat. But I was like, I don't know if he would want if you would want to hop over the seat with your camera and stuff. Probably not the best. Did he ever offer to drive? No, no, I was like, I can drive. It's fine. His the car that he had to was really funny. It was like a sports, like it was like a Mustang thing. It was like striped. It was really funny. Like a race, like he got the race car at the-

Something like that. At the rental lot. Yeah, it was hilarious. It would have been so funny if he drove you. I guess he had to be filming in the car so he could talk to you. Yeah, I think that too. But if he chauffeured you, that'd be awesome.

I'll be like, oh yep yep turn right turn left here. Oh, yeah Like that was like an uber. Are you a good driver? I would say I am you didn't hit any curbs When he was I hit curbs occasionally, but I'm more clumsy than anything like I'm good at driving I I would say like focusing, but like, I lose things a lot. And like, I'll lose a lot of stuff in my car. Like yesterday, I had to, this is I had to fill oil in the front of my car, just learned how to do that. Congrats, congrats. That's big step. And I lost the cap of like the oil thing in the front of the car So then I had to look for the cap at night. It was pretty it was a long night

But she took the cap off set it inside the car and then put oil in the car and you're like shit Where's the cap? Yeah Wow, hey, I didn't think cars still needed oil like Like I haven't I mean't I mean I know they need oil but I didn't think like cars like lost oil my car hasn't lost oil since I drove like a 1977 Volkswagen rather no mine like burns oil like once a month like I have to buy it all the time but she's she's on the way down like she's got to go oh sounds like my dog what what what kind of car do you drive a Toyota Venza, I don't know what year

but Older yeah, where are you? What state are you in? What kind of in in Canada and Ontario? And so what time zone is that? Yes, Eastern. Okay, it's stands for so it's 10 a.m. Here. Okay, good. Is it actually 7 a.m. There like yeah That's early. I should get up at 10 today We were you up late party No, I was just at my friend's house and I told myself that I want to I want to start going to bed like Consistently at a certain time and then we just started talking and then it went to like midnight and then I got a parking ticket and then I drove home really sad at like 1 a.m.

Oh man is it a boyfriend friend or a girlfriend friend? No like one of my girlfriends from the gym. Do you have a girlfriend a boyfriend? No I don't. No boyfriend? No boyfriend. Is there time for a boyfriend? No, I don't. No boyfriend. No boyfriend. Is there time for a boyfriend?

There yeah, like I had a boyfriend for a few years. So like I know how to balance that kind of stuff. Um, Just yeah, not right now Uh, if sevan had a daughter. Yeah, if in her nose hadn't grown in yet. Yep. There she is That's her look at oh a bunch of people think that wow. All right, really? That's funny. Yeah, that's cool. I'll take it. I Don't have any daughters. My what's your background? I'm Armenian. Okay. What are you? I'm Croatian and Maltese. Oh I don't even know what Maltese is that an island It's Malta. I think oh, oh that's over by the Ukraine. Oh I don't know though. Don't quote me on that. Are you are your parents? I'm Google it. I can Google it Oh Caleb's on it. Oh

Perfect. I don't even know this Hmm, oh it is. Okay, it's uh, I was right. Okay, sick. Is that considered Africa Caleb or is it considered Europe Malta? I don't know you okay. Well, let's go Africa Just cuz fun. Wow, just right out there in the middle of the Mediterranean Yeah, that kind of be cool to visit there. Honestly Hey, are your parents first generation Canadians? I think my dad, my mom. What does that mean?

Are your parents born in Canada? My mom is, my dad wasn't. He was born in Croatia. He came, he was like three. Does he, oh, so he doesn't have an accent? No, but my, my Nono and Nona, which are my grandparents they do And are they in Canada? Yeah Wow crazy, and did they cut did they go did your dad come to Canada or did he?

Come to the United States and then go to Canada. No, they both they all came like when my dad was three They all came from I, into Halifax. So, yeah, Canada. Man, can you imagine coming from Malta, where the weather's probably like... No, they came from Croatia. Oh, okay, okay. Where my grandma... I don't know when they came over, but I know my mom was born here. And are your grandparents former athletes, your grandparents when they when

they were over there? I don't know. Oh, I know my Nona was a professional handballer. Like, and Nona is grandmother. Yeah. Because and I asked that because I saw on your Instagram that you've been training with your dad and your brother Yeah, I trained them for years like and then when kovat hit I stopped training with them. They stopped doing CrossFit and So somewhere along the line fitness and exercise got passed down. So it got passed down Yeah, my grandmother to your dad. Yeah, throw that in your dad. And then did your dad play sports as a kid? Yeah, he did. He was mainly, I think it was just mainly baseball because that's what my brother did too.

He was baseball, but my dad was like good at CrossFit. I wish he kept doing it. I've tried to force him. He didn't pick it back up? No, he kind of lost interest a little bit. And then like once COVID hit, he was like, yeah, I'm okay doing my own thing type stuff. I really wanted to come back because he was strong.

He was really strong and like moved well. Same with my brother. My brother was pretty athletic too. And what's your dad doing now for training? He just does his own thing. So he, we have two dogs. So he focuses on like, they go on like long walks a day and then he kind of just does his own thing. So he, we have two dogs. So he focuses on like, they go on like long walks a day. And then he kind of just does his own stuff. Like we have like, we used to have like some

equipment in the garage, not a garage gym by any means. But during COVID, he would just like, write up his own little kind of workout and do it. Do your parents ever come watch you work out at the gym? Like when it was like, for the online qualifier for like the Did your parents ever come watch you work out at the gym? Like when it was like for the online qualifier for like the teens they would but right now they don't really watch me train now. They'll come to competitions like they came to semi finals but they never really come

to the gym now. Did you go to the games as a teen as a teen athlete? Yeah I did in 2018. I didn't I didn't do that well, but it was cool. Who was there that year? Do you remember anyone I know anyone who's competing? Haley Adams, she crushed us all. That was the year she like, won like, so she won like all the events basically. Yep, there's me. God, you know, it's crazy. You haven't aged a bit. You could be almost be younger now than you were then. That's crazy. Yep, there's me. God, you know what's crazier? You haven't aged a bit. You could be almost younger now than you were then. That's crazy.

Yep, there's my brother, my dad, and my mom. Wow. Yeah. Oh, it's 1L. Do we have two L's in the title? No, we have 1L. Okay. All right, Caleb says you have 1L. It's pretty funny how easy my last name is and how easy people mess it up But you say your whole name for me Erica Folo Folo. Okay, that is how you pronounce it. What do you hear? What do I hear? Yeah, like when people say they jacket up We'll say like folio or spell it like pH or like fo I L I oh

like the weirdest things. Or they'll do two Ls, which kind of makes sense. Or like two O's, like back to back, like fool. I'm like, what the heck? Is that a typical Croatian name? I don't think so. Because I think, like, I don't even know. I shouldn't, I probably shouldn't add an opinion

because I really don't know that much. But I feel like a lot of Croatian names are longer. I feel like Fo is pretty short. When you went to the Games in 2018, was that one of your aspirations? Yeah. As a teenager, I didn't really know much about competing in CrossFit until my coach, who is the guy at the first photo, until kind of like told me about it and was like oh there's this whole other side of it because I was just doing the classes and he's like oh maybe you should look into competing and I was like oh and then I kind of started slowly like when the older documentaries were out I think I watched one or two and I was like, that's quite interesting. So then I tried one year in the court. I think the a GQ I didn't make it. And then the year after that I made it. So you tried you tried in 2017 also, I think so. I kind of forget the timeline, but I'm pretty positive. I did the age group online qualifier that year.

Barry McCaulter. those are some huge glasses. Yeah, they're pretty cool. Yeah, do you like them big so you don't have to see the outside? Well, I mainly got bigger glasses because I snapped my old ones, which I really liked, and then I don't have coverage, like for to go to the eye doctors. So I went on this place online and I just picked the cheapest pair and these were that. And my ride or die now. Yeah, they're cool. They look good on you.

Yeah, they turn you from athlete into librarian. Yeah, like I'm smart, you know. Yeah, you're crazy smart. I like I like the big ones because then I don't have to see the edge Oh, yeah, that too like there's so much like I don't have to worry about It bothering me and they're plastic so they're not easy to break Hey, you only have one pair of glasses Yep Um, I bring that up because you said you lost your uh cap

and I I never wear the same glasses twice because I'm always setting them down and forgetting where they are. Same with myself on like there's certain things I'm just always. And so I have to have lots of glasses. Glasses. Yeah. My glasses is probably one of the biggest, my glasses and my garment, like my watch when

I run, those are probably the two I lose the most. Like I'm genuinely like, Oh God, I have no idea where those went. But they always appear. Yeah. And are you pretty fastidious about not putting your glasses face down? No. Sometimes you'll see them like this. Oh, yeah, I chuck them everywhere. I don't use a case either. But these were like, these ones, it doesn't really

matter as much because I could probably buy another pair if I really wanted to There were these cool like bright blue ones online that I saw and I was like that would kind of be fun Um, and what about lens cloths? Do you have lens cloths everywhere all over your house? No, I don't even really clean my glasses. I kind of just use my sweater God, you're cool How do you not have a boyfriend? God, you're cool. Why? Tell me about the first time you walked into a CrossFit gym or even better, the first time your dad did. So the first time I walked across the gym is actually kind of funny. I remember my parents

drove me because I was 14 or 13 and we were driving there in my CrossFit gym. Hilary should have shown this in the video. It's like tucked in the back. I feel like it's a very classic CrossFit gym spot and I just saw the garage door with like the name and I was like I am NOT going here. This is a jail and I was like I want to go to a bougie gym. This is not a bougie gym. This is a like middle of nowhere and we walk in because and my dad was there and the owner was like showing us around and and it was just like rigs right. That's a classic CrossFit gym in a huge open space. And I was like this is trash. There is no way I'm working out of this gym.

And he gave us the tour and then my dad like didn't even ask me. He's just like yep we'll both sign up. And I was like I looked at him and I was like how dare you like I was like I don't want to do this and then we went to our first class and I slowly started liking it but I remember when I first walked in like it's a classic CrossFit looking gym and I was like not expecting that whatsoever I don't know what I was expecting in my head but not that yeah it doesn't even look if you if you don't know what I was expecting in my head, but not that. Yeah. It doesn't even look, if you, if you don't know what CrossFit is, you walk in there and it doesn't even look like it's a training facility. Like, Hey, is it like space? It's just open space with the rigs.

Murty steel around. Yeah. I was like, what am I going to do here? Not anything productive, but it ended up being great. And had your dad ever done CrossFit before? No, he didn't. Do you remember why he chose a CrossFit gym? Did he just Google Jim and you guys went there? Well, so I mentioned it.

Because I was doing track at the time, full time. And there was a guy on my track team. I should get his name because I feel like I've talked about him so much. I forget what his name was. But he was like kind of jacked. And I remember we would always do like hit workouts or like Interval style workouts and he'd do really well So the one day I asked him and I was like, what do you do like on the side of track and he's like

Well, don't tell coach because our coach at the time didn't really want us doing anything else He's like but I do crossfit on the side and I was like, hmm So then I like went to my mom and I was like mom I think I want to try this thing like called crossfit and I was like, hmm. So then I like went to my mom and I was like, mom, I think I want to try this thing like called CrossFit. And she was like, oh, okay. And then she found a Groupon online or like a, like a coupon thing. And it was for this gym. And she's like, oh, let's check it out. And then we just went. Hey, it's pretty cool. Your dad did that. Yeah. Hey, it's pretty cool. Your dad did that. Yeah.

My brother signed up like a week later, or I think we all signed up at the same time. You know, there's this there's this big trend on the internet now where it's like talking about like the importance of dads, because so many people, so many parents are divorced. Yeah. And so many of us, my parents are divorced. And so many of us went and lived with our moms and people are like Hey, it's you know having a dad around is a really strong correlate for you know doing well in life staying out of prison Not getting cancer. I mean all sorts of things. It's kind of crazy

If you have a dad around but like you actually have that's pretty crazy Classes aren't immense kind of really a man's thing Going somewhere and trying something new really isn't the man's thing. And he didn't know what he was getting involved in. They had intro classes at the time. So we did like three or I think it was six total intro classes together. And then we go, we were able to do like the classes, which was cool.

Yeah, it's really cool. What is your dad like? What would like, is he a real, Is he always been a hands-on dad? Yeah, he's always been pretty involved, especially in sports and stuff. He used to help coach some of my brothers in soccer and baseball teams and stuff. But I was never a team sport person. I was always individual. When did you realize that? Um, I think when I wasn't passing the ball in soccer much, my parents were like, yeah, she's not meant for team sports. I played a few team sports in high

school and I actually enjoyed it. I think because I was older and like, I understood like you need to work with a team and like, I do enjoy working with a team now, but I just prefer like your outcome is based on how much effort you put in like you don't have to rely on other people like it's truly like if you do well like you, you earned it because you earned your spot, whereas like with the team it's like you could have performed at your best but if your team isn't at par like you're not Gonna do as well. Oh y'all those glasses are hilarious. Well people Like Clark Kenton's super superwoman, yeah, I should I imagine competing with these on they fly everywhere Yeah, do you ever wish you had your glasses while you were competing? So my coach made a point at one. I tried competing at the games with contacts in I So I don't wear contacts. So if I don't have my glasses on I just Because my prescription isn't like that bad that I need to wear like something all the time

But he said like maybe it will be better because you can focus more because like it's a little bit blurry. But I hate contacts. So If you go to the movies, do you wear them? Yes. Drive you when? Yeah. Any activities? What about if you read when you're reading or looking at your phone? Do you wear them? Depends on like some days like this morning, I put them on mainly because I'll get a headache sometimes. So I put them on and it helps. But when I'm reading like too close up, I don't wear them because I don't need to.

Yeah. It's mainly for like distance. God, headaches suck. Yeah. So I woke up this morning, I think, because I didn't wear them much yesterday. So I just put them on just to be safe. Normally it helps.

Hey, what was life like as a little kid in terms of like, I'm just tripping on the fact your dad took you there. I think that's so cool. I just feel like I don't hear that very often. Very affectionate family. Lots of hugging and mom tucking you in at night. No, that wasn't like Croatia. Your grandparents couldn't keep their hands off you always pinching you and no grabbing you No, wow interesting like we're very involved as a family like we do like my cousin's my neighbor like we're very close

But like nothing crazy, you know Pretty normal. So you go to this gym And it gives you have the full ik and yeah I have the absolute ik I'm like like, this is not my spot. And but you quickly like it. Yeah. You like the workouts and how you feel after or you like the people? I liked the workouts and I liked that you did it in classes.

I thought that was really fun because I was competitive. I was really scared to join the actual classes. I remember that like after doing intro, there was this one lady in the class and we both looked at each other and she was like, okay, we're gonna go on Monday at the 530 class and the 530 was like the real classes and I was like, okay, deal, I'll come. And this lady stood me up, but I still showed up. So I showed up to the 530 class with my dad and I was like, oh my god, she didn't show. Never seen this woman again. Don't even know her name. But me with my dad and I was like, Oh my God, she didn't show never seen this woman again.

Don't even know her name. But me and my dad did the class and then since then we kept doing it. And you were good. I would say I was like, at the beginning I was like athletic the barbell movements didn't come smooth but then I quickly started doing like we had like an Olympic weightlifting side so I started getting help from a coach there at the time and I was really good at like the interval like short burst stuff but like the skills took me a while to get. And big gym, small gym, how many people were at the gym, you know members? Did you learn

everyone's name pretty quick? I learned everyone's name pretty quickly. I feel like our gym now has gone through a cycle of like so many members so it's changed a lot but it was like packed when I started too. It was pretty big, a lot of members. And you didn't have to do a kids class? Nope. Straight to adults? Yeah because I was 14 at the time and they didn't have to do a kids class? Nope. Straight to adults? Yeah. Because I was 14 at the time and they didn't have a teen program or anything like that at that time. So they were kind of just like, yeah, you can just start. I was the youngest one there, I think, for sure. What did you run in track? When I was like, not doing CrossFit, I was 400 200 in long jump. And then when

I started doing CrossFit, I switched in high school because I did still the track in high school, I was 200 100. So I got pretty like I got shorter. In terms of distance. I just found I did better then. Um but I thought it correlated like it helped a lot in track. Um in track people don't a lot of track people don't really like uh CrossFit the the shorter domain people right? That's like anything they they see the eight the especially the 200 and the 400 people they see the 800 of the mile and they're like, no way. Oh, there's no way. Like the thought of doing, like I had some good friends on my team that did like 800 and 1500 meter. There's no way I could ever do that.

It's hard. Like 400 for me was pushing it. Was it hard to get out of that energy system? Cause now you do longer workouts. Now you're doing 20, 30, 40. Oh yeah. I think it was more just like you were either built for like 200 400 or you were built for long distance. Like you could tell like my girlfriends who were

like doing the 800 1500 meter like they were like stick thin, like not as musc, not as muscular, but like lean muscle. And like taller, like you could tell the difference between us very much. So And like taller like you could tell the difference between us very much so Erica how long before you were? Stronger than like half the guys in the class like there's like 30 year old 40 year old men in there And you're like just crushing them at shit. I think it was like 17 was when I started like being like oh, this is kind of like I'm actually kind of good at this

but I wouldn't say until like was when I started being like, oh, this is kind of like, I'm actually kind of good at this. But I wouldn't say until like, even when I was 18, like when I went to the games, I wouldn't say I was like that impressively much stronger than the men. I would say when I came back after university, like when I started training again, probably around there. So when you start CrossFit,

have you gone through puberty yet at 14? No like you were like you were changing a lot for sure. Look I feel like even like 18 like looking back at like my muscle development when I was in high school versus now like it's very different. Like I feel like there was this one I was actually showing my friend yesterday this one photo on my Instagram like way way back when I was in high school I was muscular but I was so like thin. Yeah. I was looking at that yesterday I'm like oh he looks older seven years ago than you look now. Yeah I was like so thin it's because I didn't really understand like I was working out and I was eating a lot, but I didn't understand like how to eat properly,

I don't think. So it was like everything I was eating, I was burning. And it was just like, I was so thin. I have three little boys and I always think about that. When I went through puberty, I was like driving a car and eating at Taco Bell. Yeah. And I didn't play any sports.

So I think about that all the time. I think what, what would have happened? What, how is the body going to adapt if you already are efficient at all the movements, you got a good engine and then your body starts kicking up all these hormones, it must be, did you know where you like, was there like a two month period where you're like, oh shit like But like numbers because I feel like when you first start crossfit it always happens you start PRing everything all the time like Consistently because you're like just putting in the work and it happens

But I feel like for me it just kind of like gradually I was like, oh wow I'm getting a lot stronger like and, and it feels better. Like, I feel more solid. And I feel like the mind muscle connection, as I got older, like I was able to understand, like, when I was younger, I do like lap pull downs or something as accessory, and I wouldn't understand the feeling of like engaging your lats. And then as you get older, I feel like you actually are able to like, understand it and be like, Oh, this is what I'm supposed to feel when I'm doing this movement.

Yeah, did someone have that's a great one right there. The lat one like because you know, at 23, I couldn't even do a pull up. Yeah. And I remember being in the backyard. We were high on ecstasy. And my buddies like, hey, he grabbed my lats and he's like, all the boys were doing pull ups and I couldn't do one and he's like, Hey dude, you don't pull with your arms, you flex that on your back. And I just remember being high as a kite. And for the first time in my life realizing I had a back. Yeah. Like, I'm like, Holy shit. And I just did a pull up. Like it was nothing once I engaged. Do you remember the moment you realized you could engage your life? No, you don't remember someone touching you there or being like, hey, dude, it's that or poking it and being like, hey, it's that muscle. No, I remember there was a short stint in high school. I had a boyfriend at the time who did bodybuilding and he I went

to like a globo gym with him a few times and we did a lot of like bodybuilding style like with the machines and stuff and I feel like when I did those short periods of time of like really isolating certain muscles, I started like getting it more because in CrossFit it's really hard because all the movements are very like full body. So like you'll do a thruster and be like that used everything like I don't I don't get it. But I feel like when you break it down like when you're just on a leg press machine or just on like a bicep, like a like the curl and like stuff, you can really get it more. It's like you can go there in a thruster you're fighting for your life. You're like shit everything has to fire at once bar has to be in my throat.

I have to yeah, you're worried about timing. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. That's the best argument I've ever heard for isolated movements just to become aware just to be able to like block out the world and go to the muscle that needs to contract. Yeah, like understand to stretch and then contract it for sure. Crazy. So you're in there at 14 and do you have any, you have friends there now?

Oh yeah, I have so many friends, yeah. They seem like they were my friends in the video. They were were they are Like this girl that you were at her house last night hanging out. Does she cross it? Yep, she does And so does her husband Do you remember the first time you made a friend there at the gym? Oh the first time I made a friend Well, like the first friend I thought was the girl that did the intro class with me and then she showed up again. But I feel like I made like a lot of friends really

quickly and they were a lot older than me. So like it was kind of weird. I remember being like, wow, it's kind of crazy that I have friends like that are in their 30s and stuff. And I was 14 and like later 20s. But I value them a lot now. Like, like I really value having friends that have experienced more life than me. I think it creates a lot more, you get a lot more insight on life and tips that you don't you would never know to know now. And it's super valuable. Anything jump to mind? I think just like, you know, basic like life things like getting stressed about being mid 20s and like not really knowing

what to do in life. And like, if you experience like heartbreak and stuff, how to get through that. And I think they have such a like, again, like expanded view on it of like, it feels like that's all that's life right now is like confused and not knowing what to do. And they like pull it back and be like, Hey, remember you're 24. And this is like some of the best years of your life. So just enjoy it and like kind of zoom out almost. It's cool. You say that because whenever I hear someone say, which I hear all the time, you know, being in the space the space I'm 20 years old I don't know who I am

yeah what I'm gonna do with my life and I'm thinking myself well you're right on pace yeah yeah you're like hey all that's where all of us are that's 20 that's 20 what are you talking about that's the next 10 years what are you doing like good friends who are in their 20s, we'll say that all the time and we'll be like back and forth. So it's nice to have people older to put you in check and be like, that's normal. You're fine. And I'm like, oh, okay, good. There was this guy who used to do CrossFit, who went to the CrossFit Games and his name was Dutch Lowy. This is back in 2007 or 2008. And I was talking with him and he said that the reason why he likes CrossFit so much is when he doesn't know what to do with his life. It's a perfect thing to do because everything

you're doing there will make it so if an opportunity arises, you can do it. You're healthy, you're strong, you're clear-minded. So it's like kind of like it's do it. Yes. It's your healthy, you're strong, you're clear minded. So it's like, kind of like, it's a great placeholder. It's a great place to just kind of hover, hover in purgatory. Yeah. And I was running, I was on the track with one of my friends. We were doing a session this year and he's quite older than me too. And he's also, uh, like an entrepreneur.

He has his own business and he was talking to me cause I was saying how, like, right now I'm, I'm doing CrossFit and that's kind of like my main focus. And he's like, well, just like take it from me. Like that is an amazing thing to put on the resume. And I was like, I never really thought about that. And he's like, the only people that I hire at my job is athletes. And I was like, oh, okay, like tell me more like why. And I was like, Oh, okay, like, tell me more, like, why? And he was like, because you get the understanding of like delayed gratification. So like, you will only hire athletes

because they understand you put the work in now you're not going to see success right away, could be a year from now, but you're willing to put the work in now to get that like gratification at the end. And as soon as he said that, I was like, okay, that makes me feel way better. It's like doing this now, yes, it's not the normal path for a mid-20s person, but it's a great thing to add to the resume to find a job later in life. Along that line, I have this buddy,

and in the last two years, he's bought 10 condos, like just condos around the United States. And what he does is he lives in California, he'll call somewhere in Ohio, he'll call a CrossFit gym in Ohio. First he'll find a house that he wants to buy, he'll call a CrossFit gym in Ohio, and he'll say, Hey, do you have a loan broker there and a real estate agent there that works at that CrossFit that trains at your gym? Oh, wow.

The owner of the gym will be like, yeah. And the, and the reason why he does that is because he knows that they're hard working, dedicated, they were trying to improve themselves. They have personal accountability, personal responsibility, and that's where he goes to, it's crazy, but yeah, I feel like it teaches you a lot. Like even just being an athlete in high school, like I feel like those people that you knew in high school that like you shared on a team with, like they have very similar attributes than you.

And like you easily get along because you like connect well on like a different level than just like socializing. Did you have any success in track? I did when I was younger. Like I feel like I peaked in track when I was like in elementary I feel like I peaked in track when I was like in elementary, like grade eight and nine and then slowly started going downhill because

I just don't think that sport was meant for me. And like girls were getting so good and I just don't think my heart was in it as much to like really put the time in to get that good. So, um, but, but you did, when you were in high school, you did it all four years. Yep. And so you went to meets on weekends and stood around in the center of the track and it's freezing cold and your parents are on the stands, like freezing their ass off and normally our track season was in the summer, so it wasn't too cold. Thank God.

Um, but yeah, like we all, we, and I think I did cross country in grade nine and 10 as well. But then 11 and 12, I didn't do cross country. But it was fun. I loved it. I did like it. Like track meets were always a vibe. They were good. Erica is single because men her age are tarted and less much far less mature Yeah, I feel like that's true. Oh It's a listen young young tarted men need a woman like you Go easy on them. They'll go they'll grow into it

Wow, so so you're 14 and you're doing that and you get started and then you're saying at 17, that's when you started realizing, oh, I can get good at this. You started noticing some like a whole new set of PRs come around over the hill, over the road. Yeah, bless me. My coach came, like the owner of the gym who was my coach at the time, he came up to me and was like, I really think you should try competing in this. And then I started like looking into it and he started programming for a little

bit like I Would do the class workouts, but he would be like, okay tried it this way or really try and push our X weight So then I started doing that and then I feel like I just started Taking the open more seriously and then it kind of just went from there And we're in are you at the same gym that you first started at? Yeah. Yeah, that's wild. So you've been at that gym for 10 years.

Yeah. It's crazy. The gym has been around that long. That's a long life for a CrossFit gym. Yeah, it got pretty dicey during COVID. I was nervous, but it worked. Same owners? No, owner switched. I think it was right after COVID the ownership switched.

And how did the gym take that? It was definitely a hit at the beginning for sure because I feel like when an ownership change happens like people are very lost in the community and I also feel like during COVID the community like with every CrossFit gym was a little bit broken. But now the gym is very much like it's very different than it was, because we have a lot of different things within the gym, like we have a CrossFit side, but then on the like, there's two sides to it. The other side, there's a powerlifting club, Olympic weightlifting club, strongman club, like there's a lot of like facilities within the space. Have you done your level one? Yes.

Oh, you did do it. Yeah, I have. Wow. When did you do that? How old were you when you did that? I did that in 2022, I think, or 2023. 2022. In person?

Yeah. In person. Yeah in Canada. Yeah Wow, and how was that? It was actually interesting. I kind of like people who do their L1 I told One of the my the girls from the gym because she was doing it you learn a lot more than you think like I Never understood why they taught sumo deadlift high pulls and like a med ball clean. And then when they broke it down in the L1, I was like, okay, this makes sense why they teach this at the beginning. So and like just the how CrossFit started, it was very interesting. I honestly had no idea any of that information. And you're glad you have it. Yeah, it's really cool to know, to be honest.

And did you when I went to my level one, I had never been to an affiliate, but there I learned the culture too. But I guess by then you had already been steeped in the culture. Like treat your fellow gym members, you support other people. Yeah, there's a camaraderie, you'd already figured that part out. Yeah. Did you trip on the different kinds of people who were at your L1? That there were fat people, skinny people, old people, young people? Did you trip on that at all?

It was pretty wild, but at the same time, like I feel like that's any CrossFit gym. So it wasn't very different than like your average CrossFit gym. Like you're getting all walks of life in that space. Your perceptions, I got to have Gracie Walton on the show the other day. She's a girl from Australia. And she went into a gym that wasn't an affiliate right around COVID. Yeah. She'd been working out for years and she basically had doesn't she doesn't she's not steeped in the culture at all. She doesn't really know she almost doesn't know anything about CrossFit period. She's just like

you know what I mean like she just sees it as she went in there it helped her get through time of stress. Yeah she really enjoyed working out she's a phenomenal athlete it helped her get her head on straight she kind of fell in love with the movements realized she's good at it and she's competing at it and it was interesting because I had never really met anyone who came just through that door. She didn't even train at an affiliate. She trains at some... I mean, when she shows you the gym, you can tell it's a CrossFit gym. It's a rip-off gym. But I was like, hey, do you know any people in there who've lost 100 pounds? Or do you know any people who are like 80 years old and like they added five years to their life? And she said, no, everyone in my gym is already pretty fit,

but that's not your experience in 10 years. You've probably seen it all. Yeah. There's definitely been a lot of walks of life in my gym for sure. And a lot of like different, like I think our oldest member is in his eighties. Crazy. And he's been there for a long, long time. Um, like, and yeah, our community is pretty like tight knit like that. Like he went through surgery recently and we were all like, made him a card

and like signed it and stuff. So yeah, I feel like my gym, I know so much because I've seen so much to like walk in the door and out the door kind of thing. And when you, when you recently talked about, I'm stepping back from CrossFit, you were, you're not talking about stepping back from your gym. You actually made a post saying it was so you could step back more into your gym, right? Yeah. It was more just like out of the like individualized programming, competing style. Like I don't think I'll ever give up like CrossFit. Like I think when I'm done competing, I'll just go to doing classes. And I love that honestly. I love doing classes. It was more just taking a step back from like doing my like competitive programming and just going back into like doing like the classes and being with like the gym. Hey, um, I want to come back to that in a second. The difference between classes and competing. Um,

That video hillar made with you. Yeah has over 150 000 views. I know that's crazy I didn't even know that hillar called me two days ago And he was like, do you see it? I was like what and I didn't even realize that's nuts Yeah, it's it's pretty wild. Um Yeah, it's pretty wild. It's like a huge, it's a huge testament to who he is and to who you are, because you know, he could go out and make a video with someone who's top 10 at the games and it will not go over 50,000 videos or you'll see these other YouTubers go to really like well known people who have a million followers on Instagram and it won't get 100,000 views.

So it's pretty, it's pretty, it's pretty wild that it caught that traction. It's not... Yeah, I'm kind of shocked. Yeah, people are interested and people are embracing you. I haven't gone and looked in the comments. Have you gone and looked in the comments? No, I haven't. Oh, I'm guessing they're all positive because the only way a video like that can get traction is if like someone watches it and then they go to their gym And they're like hey, did you see the girl? Yeah, that's true So Congratulations when you do a video with him like that do you think about that or you like do you think oh shit? I don't want the attention or oh, this will be good. I'll put on some more followers

Maybe I'll get a sponsor like do you have any way you process the? How do you decide whether you're gonna let someone stick a camera in your face? I think I was like, it was a good opportunity for sure. And I feel like not a lot of people got to know who I was after semi finals. Like, and I really, I was really kind of, I wanted people to know how I processed it, to be honest. and like all the changes I've made since then. Because I feel like not a lot of people have talked about, you know, that kind of side of things. And I also do love like meeting new people. So I was excited to like, I was very nervous to meet him at the beginning because of his like reputation of like chirping some people.

And I was like, oh my God, is he coming down here to make fun of me? But once I got to know him I'm like oh this is great this is another friend like he's really awesome he was really excited yeah I mean for him he's kind of he's you met him he's very stable yeah but I just remember him saying he's like I got a new will Leahy I'm like who he's like Erica full I mean he was pretty for him that was he's he was pumped. You know what I mean? I could tell Yeah, I was so funny because I talked about all the time that my HRV like on my loop is so bad Like my HRV is horrendous. What's that stand for?

HRV heart rate variability. Okay, it's awful and the whole weekend I Oh, okay. It's awful. And the whole weekend, I was like going, I was like, cause I'm very expressive with my emotions. Like I'm always like exact, I'm always the type of person to exaggerate or get like really sad or really happy.

And Hillary's like this, right? He's very stable. Yeah. So like I was expressing an emotion, like the sauna didn't turn on on time. And I was like, dang it. And he's like, there goes the HRV again. I was like, Oh, because when you do all of that, like you're putting your body under stress. So I don't even realize I'm doing it. And I was like,

that's why my HRV is so bad. He tremendously giving feedback that if other people gave you the feedback, you'd be offended because his delivery is always like Yeah, it's very just like there you go, but I like it's very much just like take it or leave it But this is it yeah well like when he talked to you about your swimming I was like wow Erica did a great job like she thinks it's funny, and she's cool with it She's not taking it too serious, and she knows she's doing a lot of work But he was being critical of her swimming, and you could have been like hey fuck you dude

I didn't bring you out here to talk shit, but instead you were just like Because there's deliveries just so chill Yeah, and I think it's also just like you can't fight it like if you're bad at it Just embrace it like you talk but like you'll get better like I know I'm awful at swimming But I've gotten a lot better than it was. So it's an A plus for me. So you go to these classes, you love the classes, it's something you bonded with your brother and your dad. And then when do you kind of, is it a big difference doing CrossFit to compete as opposed

to just go there and beat up on some people in class? I think it's a lot easier mentally to do classes a little bit because you can kind of just like go in the class and kind of like shut your brain off a little bit, have a coach lead you through the warm up, do the workout, and there's a camaraderie of like other people. So I think doing your own programming is like a little bit harder mentally, especially doing it alone. But I think it also adds great value to like your mental toughness and everything. But I would definitely say doing individual programming is a lot is a little bit harder for sure, because you're putting more hours in the gym to like doing a CrossFit class. You're in there. You're in and out in 60 minutes if you want to be right And from hearing you talk

You're in a class and there's thrusters and you just do the thrusters and you're doing it to be to compete in crossfit and you're like Am I am I am I letting the bar pop off my shoulders at the right time? And my head did like all of a sudden it's not like it's work on every level Where's like I do a crossfit class and I can just turn my brain off. Yeah. And you can't do that. Yeah like in a CrossFit class like it's like yeah I feel like it's a lot more, I feel like I'm so distracted by everyone around me in a good way. Like it's you're like feeding off of other people's energy whereas sometimes when you're going in to train alone like you kind of have to bring that energy yourself, which I think was very hard for me at the beginning,

especially coming from team, because even doing team stuff, you had your other like teammates. So you could kind of feed off of their energy, but going in alone and knowing you have to hit a piece by yourself, it's a bit harder for sure. And that's why I think that break was much needed for me alone and knowing you have to hit a piece by yourself. It's a bit harder for sure. And that's why I think that break was much needed for me to go back to just doing classes

to kind of like remember why I started. I think I forgot after semi finals and everything that happened and I wanted to quit so bad. Like I just wanted to like get out of the space because I felt so bad. So I had to remember why I started. So I started doing classes again because I was like, this is why it's literally not that serious. It's just exercise. Why did you feel bad? Because you want to win? I think I felt bad because I feel like I disappointed myself great, like bad and then like it was also on the spectrum of like YouTube and like everyone saw it or like people who watch CrossFit most people saw it and it was a

pretty uh bad ending. Remind me what was the ending it It was the um, you were lunging with the dumbbells. And then I got no rep and I feel like after I got no rep, I just blacked out to be honest. I don't even remember. I remember carrying the dumbbells back and then my grip being shot and then being like, oh God, this is not good. And then after that, I feel like I just blacked out and wanted to get off of the floor immediately. Oh, wow. That's a crazy feeling. Yeah, because when I, like I said in my Hiller video,

like I truly like picked up those dumbbells and I remember like looking at the finish line and the dumbbells did not feel heavy at all. And I was just like, I've made it to the games. Like I literally have just made it to the first year like going individual and I was so excited. And then I got no rep and I've made it to the games. Like I literally have just made it to the first year, like going individual. And I was so excited. And then I got no rep and I feel like it was like

a 360 of emotion immediately. I was like, so like, oh my God, this isn't happening. And then people started passing me and I was like, there's no way this is happening. And then it all set in that I was like the only person on the field. And I was like, yep, it's happening. Which, which one is she Caleb? That one. Oh, I love how I pointed as if you can see where I am.

I'm like that one. Okay. Is that pink top or purple top? It's pink. It's a really nice shirt. I like that bra. So did you just get off the muscle ups or something? What? What did you guys do before you picked that up? There were muscles. I was the first or second one on the dumbbells. But what was the movement before it was a muscle ups and then to dumbbells? Yeah, right muscle ups. Okay. And then so you pick

up these two 70 pound dumbbells. And you actually remember thinking, oh shit, I'm going to the games. Yeah, because I was so close to the finish line. And then, and then your hands just got peeled open. And then yeah, like I genuinely could not grip the dumbbells. And I was like, this is it. And then as soon as everyone crossed the line, I was like, I'm done. Hey, that right there where they went down, dude, there you're actually holding on for dear life, your forearms are burning and you're like,

I'm not gonna let go and then they just peel, they just peel your fingers open. Oh my God. Yeah, it was a- You have to remember 99% of people never experienced that ever in their life. Like they let go, like 99.9% of people always let go before they peel out of their hands.

Yeah. Yeah, it definitely took a while like to like step back and like take in what happened and how to like analyze it and like how to understand like so much has come from that moment and like all the changes I've made to if that moment ever happens again, how to handle it differently and like how to approach it differently and all that. So it's like, I'm grateful that it happened to be honest, cause it made me make changes in my life that I don't think I would have ever changed if it didn't happen.

Um, uh, going back, if you would've, if you would've taken a break somewhere, would you have gone to the games? I genuinely don't think so. So you think, you think even if you would have paid for different, you just, it just wasn't meant you think even if you would have paced it different, it just wasn't meant to be. You couldn't have paced it different. They would have passed you if you paced it. I don't know whatever I got no rep'd on,

but I think if I didn't get the no rep, because I had planned on breaking it up anyways. I planned on- What was the no rep for? What was the no rep for? I don't know. Oh shit. Yeah. And you went back and looked at the footage and you don't know no me and Hiller both don't know why oh That's crazy

But because I was what could be no rep for I don't understand what you could be no rep for in a walking lunge Do your knee not touching? Maybe it was something with the line I don't know if maybe I started to like soon to the line. I kind of for like me and Hillary, we both don't know what it was. Um, but obviously it happened for a reason, which I've kind of come to realize now, um, but yeah, I was planning on breaking the lunges up anyways, cause I did that workout in at the training camp with Josh and that was like my that was my goal from the beginning anyways because my hand I'm not making a complaint

my hands are just on my grip is not great so that's what I've been working on grip strength isn't the best you know I wonder I haven't ever heard anyone ask Rich I wonder if Rich in tooth rich Froning in 2011 or 12 whenever he fell off the rope I wonder if Rich and to the rich frowning in 2011 or 12 whenever he fell off the rope I wonder if when he saw that he thought he was gonna win the games I need to ask him that the next time I talked to him what do you mean like when he he had the game he was gonna win the games and then he and then he couldn't then he fell off the rope in the final event and Graham Holmberg won the CrossFit Games it was the last workout the last, you know,

rope climbs and he that guy was gonna be he would have been the five times fittest man on earth and instead he fell off the rope and that was it. I mean, he had a bad fall. He's lucky he didn't like yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, like that's the thing. And even just like grateful again that like, yes, the lunges happened and yes, like what happened happened. But again, like I walked away injury like there was no injury like yes, I was broken a little bit, but like I was able to fix myself and Cuz like yeah and injuries that is hard, too um so so you

What what do you what do you tell yourself like to get over that? What do you tell yourself to get over that? So you're saying after that you're like fuck it, I'm done, okay, I don't want to go through that again. Why get back on the horse? I think because I realized that I couldn't do that. I couldn't leave the sport on that note. Like I was just genuinely like, yes it sucked, but like I forgot, I also like I catastrophize that event to say that my whole weekend was shot, but then I was able like after the emotion set in a few weeks, like I was able to think back and be like no like the the

weekend was pretty good. Like I had fun and I was able to like the first event and the second event were so good and I did so great and I put my full efforts out there and like went to like did it to plan like how I planned on doing it. So it was more just realizing that like I do deserve to compete and like it's just like just because the last event happened like doesn't mean the whole weekend was shot. So it was just telling myself like you can compete with them because I thought I wasn't meant to be like competing to be honest. So you thought that that one and it is a small very small failure but you thought that that one very small failure because of where it happened and the timing.

Yeah. Because if that would have happened in the first event. Very different. Very different. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I think it was, I also put a lot of pressure on myself and I always have. Is that good?

Is that a good thing? It seems like the kind of thing a therapist would try to talk you out of, but I'd be like, no, no, keep the pressure up. I think pressure is a privilege, but I think also like to an extent, like you have to learn how to use that pressure in good way. Okay. Like you can't, like you can't let it eat at you, but you can use it to help you. Yeah.

So that's why I tell myself all the time, like if you're feeling a bit of pressure, like that's a privilege. Not everyone gets to feel pressure. Some people don't even know where they're going to get their next meal. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Like it's crazy. Don't doubt it though.

You've also earned that privilege. So congratulations. Did you ever ask Hiller why he chose to come out? Yeah, he said two things. One was he thought I was on steroids. Oh, yeah, he never told me that. Okay, interesting. I was shocked. One was that he thought I was on steroids. And two was because I was like the third person in mammoth and no one was talking about it. Like, like it was just like, I was just always kind of there, which I like I was, I was cool

with and he's like, I just didn't know much about you so I just wanted to find out um so that's interesting he never he didn't he didn't mention that to me the only thing he said to me he he did say he's like hey this chick has like the perfect physique like she's like this she's built for CrossFit this is this is the one and he's like this is I'm really I can't wait to get out there and He's he's yeah fascinating. I never I never thought that I thought he would when you said that in the Interview or I can't remember where I saw it. I thought that that was a joke, but I don't have a good What would be the signs that you are on steroids like what would be the what part do you say what part of your body like

Sometimes he'll be like hey, I think that guy's on steroids? Like what would be the what part do you say what part of your body like sometimes he'll be like, Hey, I think that guy's on steroids, look at his shoulders or look at his head like he just said, like, he just like, I just feel like you're really jacked. And I was like, I'd never really like to me, I just think I'm average, like to any other CrossFit girl, to be honest, I think we all have similar like physiques. And he's like, Yeah, I think you're on steroids, Or I thought you were on steroids. And I was like, Oh my god. Hey, what are you going to do when do you see that in your comments to in my comments? Yeah, just like like like, no, you don't see much. No, not too much. Like a few people like, I remember like, Oh, wait, hold on one second, Jeremy, that's Hiller hitting on you. Hit on anyone. Listen, he doesn't have that. He doesn't have that bone in his body. Yeah. Yeah. He's autistic. He doesn't even know what he doesn't even know what girls are for. I was shocked when he asked me that, to be honest, I was like Was like what I'm me on stairway like that's nuts

I feel like you kind of know or like you don't know but like Is your brother built like you? If your brother trained as hard as you would he look like you? Probably yeah, okay So his you think your genetics would show up there there You think that you what you have is just a shitload of hard work and your genetics are just I mean not you think you know yeah I think like if my brother trained how I did he's quite short too I think he would actually like yeah his physique would be quite similar how tall

are you five two and how much do you weigh I have a way myself in a while but I'm guessing probably around 145. Holy shit. So you're tiny, you're small. I'm dense, yeah. But 145, that's pretty light. Really? I think. Oh, I don't know.

I thought that was heavy. Like, I remember when I went to... Do you feel heavy at 145? Is what? Do you feel heavy at 145 is what you feel heavy at 145. No, I think this is like my perfect like weight to size ratio. Yeah. When I went to nutritionist like years ago, I remember, or as a dietitian, I forget. And she obviously had no idea to crossfit. She did not know

anything. I was wearing sweatpants and a hoodie. And I just told her my weight and my height. And she goes, yes, according to BMI, you are obese. Uh-huh. And she couldn't tell by what I was wearing. So she was literally calling me overweight. She said, we need to lose some weight. And I was just like, okay. And we literally never gave this girl a second chance. I was like, that is crazy.

You should have just disrobed in front of her. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Hey, you need to take a second assessment. That's crazy. Yeah. Cause she looked at like BMI or whatever, the body mass index and said that. And I was like, okay. Are you a burning machine? Can you just eat whatever you want? Is your body just with all that muscle you have on you and how much you move,

are you just a, do you just put food in and it disappears? I would say I've been trying to clean up my diet. I made that very apparent in Hiller's thing, more just on like quality of foods, but I love to snack. But I don't eat like, I'd say I eat pretty balanced. I don't eat like crazy, like McDonald's every day or anything like that. But when you say you eat balanced,

so what will you snack on? Will you snack on nuts or slices of steak or apples? I like a lot of processed sugars and foods. Like yesterday I ate a bunch of nibs, like you know those candies? Is it licorice? It's like a licorice, it's like a tiny licorice. I ate a bunch of nibs, let's see what I ate yesterday. I wonder what, it can't be as much as like, it must seem like a lot to you, but or snacks to you you but there's no way you could be eating poorly there's just no way i ate a bear paw have you had bear paws no what is that is that like a cinnam is that a donut no it's like um like a like a it's like a cookie kind of thing okay shit all right so i had a bear paw okay this was not a good day because I was trying to just get my carbs in because I was kind of running around. But I had rice crispy squares.

Holy shit. You ain't want to go. Wow. Oh, okay. You had a rice crispy square. Square. Wow. Two of them. Wow. God, you live a good ass life. Big glasses, rice crispy treats. Let me see these these things. You are truly free. They're like a snack. Is it like a pretzel? No, it's like a cookie. It's sweet. Okay. Okay. All right. I

do like my sweets. So yesterday, yeah, I had two rice crispies, a bear paw fruit rollup, Twizzlers, and fruit. But those were snacks. What kind of fruit? Well, yesterday was Asian pear. Have you had those? Amazing. Had one this time yesterday. Delicious. Amazing. Did it come wrapped in its own little individual styrofoam? Yes! Yep, those are great. It was at my friend's house. It's like a mix of an apple and a pear. Anyways, an Asian pear, blueberries, and then, but my lunches and dinner was pretty good.

So again, balance in my eyes, right? So that bear paw you ate, how many of those did you eat? Do you just sit down and eat the whole box? Oh. It's like a, it's. It's like a serving. I have a serving of it. Okay. Yeah, I don't eat the whole box.

Yeah, the rest of us don't do that. Oh yeah, no, I just do like servings. I'm definitely like everything in moderation type person. Yeah, interesting. Like you would had one Twizzler, you didn't eat the whole pack of twizzlers? Yeah, like I'll have like a handful. Interesting. Yeah. God, life's good for you. That's crazy.

Yeah, but I am trying to like, um, try and doing less processed sugars and, and trying to like balance that. But I do also just like, again, like I like everything in moderation. Like if I, I'm, if I want it, I'll have it. I won't stop myself from eating it. Cause I feel like if you don't have it, it makes the craving like that even worse. You know, do you have a day job? I coach at my gym and then like time and again, I will like help out my one friend I'll do like kind of personal assistant stuff for him but not much. Aside from that I do a little bit of stuff for the gym on the side like I write their newsletter and stuff like that but other than that no.

Go ahead. Go ahead. I may be getting a day job this year or like some type of job in 2025. We will see. Are you getting pressure from your parents to get a job? More for myself. Because I want to like, I don't know, I would like to move out and I would like to like buy my own things. Like in terms of like get a car, stuff like that. And I feel like right now for me,

CrossFit is not like can't provide that. So I wanna be able to like do those kinds of things. The first time, have you ever been kicked out of your house? No. No. The first time, go ahead. I lived away from home in university, which was fun, with roommates. But no, I've never been kicked out of my house.

The first time I was kicked out was when I was 16. Kicked out? Yeah. Oh my gosh. And then the last time I was kicked out, I was 34. Wow. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. That time I got caught growing marijuana in the closet. Oh, you know, You were allowed to come back after you got kicked out once. Oh, I was kicked out like five times. See, I feel like if in my house, if I was kicked out, I'm out. There's no, it's like if you're getting kicked out, you're out. Yeah, I bet you that's what my mom thought too Yeah, but now um at 52 I own my own Asian pear tree what yeah, yeah Dude shitload could happen. I have 20 of my own blueberry bushes like that's crazy Yeah, it is crazy and would you have ever imagined that at 24? No, I'm gonna go out and eat a handful of blueberries after this and be like, fuck you, mom. No, my mom's great.

That's what I mean. Like, I feel like I put so much stress on not knowing what to do, but at the same time, I feel like you just like so much can happen. Yeah. My parents wanted me to get a job where there was health insurance. Like my mom wanted me to get a job with Starbucks so bad. Yeah. I'm like, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. Yeah, my parents wanted me to get a job where there was health insurance like my mom wanted me to get a job at Starbucks so bad. Yeah.

Health insurance at Starbucks. You guys get that? Yeah, here in the States, I think. I mean, I never had a job there, but I think that's what they say. Wow. Yeah, that's nice. So, um, so your parents aren't putting pressure on you. They're happy with what you're doing. They see you pursuing your goal at the highest level. I mean, as a parent, if I had a kid like you who is committed to their goals, I mean, that's a win. Yeah.

I think there was periods of time, definitely after university, where it was like, are you going to use your degree? Like, it was kind of like, hmm. And then I think they realized how deeply rooted and invested I was in it. Like after some, like after what happened at semi finals happened and like how I reacted, I think they really realized like, oh, this is serious. Like this is no joke, like kind of thing. So I think after that, there was a little bit more like, okay, like kind of take your time and like, do this if this is something you want to pursue type thing.

But it was never like, it's just hard to see because I feel like there's also the classic traditional like finish school, get a job, work in high five, move out, that kind of thing. So I think it's also very hard for other people, like grandparents and parents to understand that side as well, which I understand because that's how they grew up. So it's like, I don't understand what you're doing, like exercising and like, like even I think some of my extended family, they all support me obviously, but I think they do think it's a bit weird. The world is, people don't realize what's happening in the world.

It's so bizarre that they don't know because they're living it. But like, I'll just give you an idea. Like there was a while where I was selling DVDs. I was making, I would make DVDs and I would put them on. I would go to these people, these marijuana grow homes all over the United States. And I would film them and I would put like 10 different, you know, grow operations on a DVD and then I would sell them on eBay and I would make good money, right? I would just travel around my camera and just like I'm doing with you, interview you, instead of it being across the

athlete, I'd interview you like, hey, how'd you grow these plants? Where'd you buy the lights? What's the watering cycle? Blah blah blah. And then all of a sudden DVDs were gone. You know what I mean? No one uses DVDs. So my whole fucking business dried up. The thought of 99% of the shit we learned in college is not even applicable to life by the time you get out. It wasn't applicable when you went in. And so there's this generation that doesn't realize that really, and I'm not saying that

college isn't a good experience or that you didn't learn anything or that you didn't navigate social things or politics or just, you know, whatever, the politics of people and getting along. But yeah, you're in a generation where you just have to be on your journey and be paying attention to where you can be an entrepreneur. Yeah, even like, yeah, building connections I've learned is just that much higher value.

Yeah. It's huge. Yeah, everything's a popularity contest. just that much higher value. Yeah. It's huge. Yeah, everything's a popularity contest. Also, you have to remember that too. Everything, and by popularity contest, I'm not saying who has the most followers. That's a mistake. But it's too high. Like people only, people, we have so much free time.

We get to choose who we get to hang out with and who we want to be with. If you're a douche. Yeah. That you like hanging out with older wiser people, like who you can get shit from. Yeah. Like you want to learnche. Yeah. You like hanging out with older wiser people like who you can get shit from. Yeah. You want to learn from? Yeah. That's I mean, yeah. Like, truly, I think connections can take you so far. And like, even now, like I think about it, like my CrossFit gym, like I in the summers, which I might be doing again this year, like I work a

beverage cart at golf course. Oh, and I might be doing again this year, like I work a beverage cart at a golf course. Oh. And I got that job from somebody at the gym because he was a high valued member at that golf course. And it's a private golf course, so I could only get in from knowing somebody. So it's just like those kinds of things, like I would have never been able to get a job that I loved so much in the summer without knowing that person. And I just think that like just really shows like connections can is so important to. Hey, do you actually make drinks at this beverage cart? Yeah.

So you and what drinks do you make? You make anything like we have like a bunch of stuff. You can make coffee drinks. You know how to run an espresso machine and all that? We have an espresso. Okay. You put the thing in and pull it down, push the button. But yeah, we don't have like a fancy espresso machine, no. What do you wear when you're at the cart?

It's just like a skirt. We have like a golf shirt and a skirt. And are you, can people see your physique? Yeah, well so the it's not like it's like um I don't know what you guys call it in the States like a halfway house type type thing That's where you go if you were a former drug addict That's what they call it, but it's like instead of us driving around now It's like a stationary cart with snacks, drinks and stuff.

But yeah, people comment on my physique all the time. Yeah. Like from my shoulders. Yeah, you can't. Because I picture. Yeah, you probably, like, that's what I was wondering. You probably can't, like, I just pictured you out there and it's hot.

Yeah. And you're wearing not a lot of clothes and just, yeah, I don't know. There's only two kinds of people who are gonna see you. One's who- It was like a golf, it was like a tight, it was like a golf shirt, it's like a classic golf shirt. But like, yeah, people would still comment on my arms

all the time and some of them you could tell was like weirded out and then other ones were like, oh, that's cool, like intrigued. I didn't really, I was just like, whatever. But um, the reason why I was wondering if that could be a good place to pick up clients or something too, or steer people to your CrossFit gym. Oh, for sure. Yeah. You too can work out five hours a day and look like me.

Yeah. There was so many people that wanted me to personal train them. And I was like, I don't people that wanted me to personal train them and I was like I don't know that much information to like personal training. You do. I guess. I don't know. You do. Yeah so there was a bunch of people there that were like oh you have to train me and I was like yeah. Yeah you do. Yeah but yeah great connections there if you ever come to Canada, it's a great golf course That's where the Toronto Maple Leafs have played a few times Isn't that a hockey team? Yeah, but they golf in the summer. Oh crazy, yeah

Um, you're you're Your coach is Emma Lawson's coach. Josh Woolley. Josh Woolley. But Mammoth is over. So he's not coaching anymore. Is Mammoth a gym? Mammoth was his foundation.

So like Josh created Mammoth. Right, so Josh created Mammoth years ago for Jack and Emma. And then last year when I made to Semis, he opened up a Mammoth Elite. So it basically was a generic generalized kind of like a general programming that you could sign up per month and you just got the workouts. So that's what I did last year. I did the mammoth program. That was just like the generalized one. Jack and Emma were still different. They were like individualized, like being personally coached by him. And then after semis this

year, I was able to join them on the mammoth pro, which was like the individualized programming. So he kind of programs individually for me, but I still needed a coach. Like he was not willing to coach me like he does Jack and Emma. He was willing to program for me. So then I he programmed for me up until he had made the decision. He's not doing Mammoth anymore. So, yeah, I have to find someone new. And did he train at your gym? Did Josh personally like him himself? No. He lives up far away.

How did you find him? You met him at the semi-final? So we, me, Jack and Emma, we all went to the same gym for a period of time. Because when I was in university, I'd come home to my gym in Burlington. But when I was at school, I trained at a gym and near my school in Kitchener. And how far is that from your home? About like an hour and a half. Okay. So you tell me the first time you walk into that gym, you're like, okay, I'm at

college, I'm going to do CrossFit here. You find a CrossFit gym. Did you know that Emma Lawson and Jack Farlow trained there? I knew they trained there occasionally, but they trained like not at times that I did when I first started there with my team and then I ran into them a few times and I was like oh hey because I knew of Jack I think but not Emma. Oh no me and Emma met years years ago. She came to a CrossFit competition at my home gym. Oh, cool. Okay.

So we knew of each other pretty well. So like when I knew she was there, we were kind of like, oh, hey, like crazy like that. We're like back here, however many years later, like still doing CrossFit type thing. And then we just like ran into each other at the gym while we were there, but never trained together, really. to each other at the gym while we were there but never trained together really. Um, she's, it's not like she's a good CrossFitter. She's like, she's insane. She's insane.

Yeah, she's like, anyone who has a brain is like, that's the future like it was going to be her and Mal. Like there it is. I've never met someone where I'm just like, oh my it's crazy. And she's built perfect for it too. Like all looks like Tia Toomey 2.0. Yeah, she is like, it's so impressive. She's like the perfectly proportioned human being.

How tall is she? She's taller than me slightly. So I think probably five, five, maybe five, four. And Jack seems like the nicest guy like on the planet. Like he has the best ever like so nice to Yeah, like that's why like I love train like when we were doing training camps together It was so fun. Like they're such great people truly, so

I'm just fascinated by the fact that she's still competing. I haven't been following up on her I saw she started a podcast. She's still competing. I haven't been following up on her. I saw she started a podcast. Is she still competing? Do you know, are you still friends with her? Yeah. It's her birthday today. Oh, happy birthday, Emma. Aren't you like, it seems like that.

How was that a crazy emotional roller coaster for you? Like, oh my God, this is it. I went to semifinals. I got through this hump of this hard final event. But now I'm training with Jack and Emma. They're my age. They both work hard. The coach obviously knows what he's doing. Aren't you like, like, like what happened? Like, was that like a crazy emotional roller coaster right there to like, I'm on track now.

Yeah, it was definitely exciting. For sure. I was excited. We never trained together. Like we all got our own individualized programming, but because they live in Kitchener and I'm in Burlington, we never really got to train much together. But we all were programmed under Mammoth, which I thought was going to be super exciting. And Josh, yeah, he's brilliant. Like he knows what he's doing. So that was super cool. So a little bit sad that it's over, but things happen for a reason. So, you know, onto the next thing finding the kind of like a new start. Does he call you? Can you tell me the story about how does he

call you one day? And he's like, Hey, Erica, I'm not going to be doing programming anymore. Yeah, your final three months. It was just like a Monday random Monday. Yeah. Do you pressure him. It was just like a Monday, random Monday. Yeah. Do you pressure him to keep doing it? Are you like, Nope, sorry, Josh. I don't accept your resignation. No, I couldn't do that. Cause like, You could, you could, I don't want to force someone to do something they don't love it if they don't

love it anymore. Or they, they, they found a new passion, right? Like, yeah. Or someone who doesn't love it to keep doing it. That's like asking a CrossFit coach to keep coaching when they hate it It's a miserable class. Hmm So it's like I don't know I wouldn't force them him to do something if he didn't want to do it anymore because it's like At the end of the day if they're not truly passionate about it or don't want to commit the time to it anymore Then the value is gonna like, you know, you never know, right? You started text thread with Jack and Emma and you're like, hey guys, where are we going next? I

Wanted I just sent them like any loss is a loss like I hope you're doing okay type thing Yeah, but I never asked them where they were going next or anything like that or what they're doing. Cause I feel like right now everyone's just trying to kind of figure it out. So I just wanted to give them space. I'm excited to be, see them both in Miami though. That will be fun. At a, well, water Palooza.

Yeah. Yeah. And, um, uh, has Hiller talked to you about water Palooza? Like, what do you mean? Like just that, do you know that he's gonna be there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was gonna be there. He told me. He did, okay. Yeah.

Anything else he tell you? Not much, no. Just said he's gonna be there. Oh, okay. Yeah. Why? I don't know. I don't know if I'm supposed to say anything. I'll tell you afterwards. It's not my place to say maybe. Oh, okay. But he's pretty excited to see you too. Yeah, it'll be really fun. I feel like it'll be like a reunion. I feel like when he left here, I was like, it felt like a week he was here. I feel like he witnessed so much because he

went to my gym. He went to my therapy. He went to my physical therapy like session. He saw my like my good friends. Like it was like we went to the mall. Are you are you doing a team there at Wadapalooza? No, just individual. Will Josh be there? I don't think so. I don't think he's going. No. And how do you feel pressure to find someone new to work with a coach? A little bit, but I'm trying not to think about it too much because I just like I truly trusted Josh like in everything that he did. Like when he came out programming, I never questioned a thing. I'm just well, I'm just gonna do it.

And I hope I can find that again with the coach. But I'm not putting pressure on finding one right now, no. Did he suggest anyone? No, we haven't had that conversation yet. Maybe that will be a post water polusa thing. Okay, because that would be another thing I'd be he'd be like, hey, I'm not going to do it anymore. But yeah, this guy, maybe that will that would be great, because I genuinely I don't I feel like I don't know much about coaches in the space to be honest it's it's it's it's

such a I'm trying to think if there's ever been a time when like someone like that such a prompt like we've seen promising athletes, you know, step away. But man, what, what, what a crazy, what a crazy coaching position to step away from because Emma showed like there was no, no limits, like she, she looked like she was going to be like the next dynasty. Yeah. She was, I remember watching her train at the gym. I was just like, wow. Like training, doing the training camp with her was like truly a privilege, because

it was just like insane to see. And like even being behind her, I was like, this is still sick. Like, this is awesome. Like if I can somewhat keep on par with her like pace, like, that's cool. Hmm. Um, so, um, you were talking about moving out, would you ever move somewhere just to train, or do you think it would be unhelpful? Oh, I love the warm. I love, like, I would love, like, if I liked Miami, I would move there, if I could. But I don't think I can. I think getting a visa is really hard.

You just crossed through the southern border before January 20th. You're good. But I don't know. I would. But you're so close with your family and your cohort at your gym, right? Yeah, that's what's going to happen. And I'm a homebody for sure. Like that would be scary for sure. It'd be out of my comfort zone, but I've also never lived like outside of Canada. So maybe that's a cool experience. I don't know. Yeah, it would be.

Hey, if when you took Hilary to your therapist, did you talk to your therapist before? You're like, hey, don't bring up blah, blah, blah. No, yeah, like we just kind of talked. It was more like a semi finals debrief and like what we learned and like kind of like a little bit about her type thing. But I feel like what, what we talked about there was nothing where I was like, Oh, cut the tape, cut the tape. Like it was nothing crazy. Was she like, Hey, man, like, are you sure you want to bring, did she try to talk you out of it?

Are you sure you want to bring a camera into your therapy session? No, she didn't. She was like a little bit hesitant, but at the same time I was like, I feel like it's not like a, like it's super deep. Like it wasn't a crazy, like, this is crossing boundaries type conversation. Like this shouldn't be filmed. It was more like, I wasn't a crazy, like, this is crossing boundaries type conversation, like this shouldn't

be filmed. It was more like I kind of wanted him to get a side of understanding of like, the background of like, what can happen in competition type thing. That makes sense. Yeah. Is she is she specifically a therapist you got because of CrossFit? Yeah. Okay. I reached out to her after semi finals. Okay, because I wanted, like I knew I needed to deal like I needed to like, talk about things that I needed to learn how to process negative thoughts and like all that kind of thing and how to prepare for competition and all that.

So she's she was specifically works with athletes. And all that. So she's she specifically works with athletes. Not specifically, but that is her like main focus. Okay. She's awesome. So it wasn't you didn't go to her because it's like you didn't get enough likes on a post and you're really. Oh, no, no.

It was literally because I was like, I need to figure out what I want to do. And like also how to process What happened happened and like? Yeah, it was cool. You did that Anyone who sees that video? They should take note It's you played hill are coming out. They're really really smart like hey, this is an opportunity Yeah, like you met him halfway and you made the effort to make sure that you could train or

that you showed it's really it was really generous of you because I know he goes out there on his own money. He has no problem getting paid. It could be just a big loss for him. And the fact that you took it seriously and went out of your way to show him so much and let him in so much is huge. Other athletes should take note of that. It's really, really cool.

Yeah, I was shocked when he said like, I'll come down. I was like, Oh, like he literally just goes out of his way. Yeah. It's great. It's, it's insane. And, and like what he does for the sport, like I truly think like, he creates a level of like dialogue that not a lot of people get to see really. So it's cool for sure. He, he, he was with Alexis Raptus now. Yeah he is. Yeah have you ever met her? I met her at semi-finals she was really nice very briefly very briefly we talked I think after like the first event. Yeah you guys are now that I think about you guys are very similar just in your your your vibe oh really yeah I've ever like gotten to talk too much

like to her so I don't really know her that well she's cool shit she's easy going yeah really cool and good parents too yeah yeah good supportive parents just a note note for anyone who plans on having kids if you want a cool kid I'll be a cool parent um you mentioned in how are you on time you good yeah um you mentioned with hillar uh was it uh stacy sims's book roar is that the book yeah let me have right here is that the author stacy sims uh let me check i don't actually know because i heard you mention that book and okay um you like the whole book? You recommend it? Yeah, there's some parts where I kind of just skipped through because it was like menopause.

Yeah, you're not there yet. Not there yet. But there is like really, really good chapters in it. Yeah. Who recommended that book to you? How did that pop on your radar? I told Josh one day that I kept crying in the gym. And it was when I found out Mammoth was ending, I just kept crying in the gym because I was upset. And then he was like, well, it'd also be good to like be in tune with like your, your most like your body and like understand like at some points, you're going to be a lot more sensitive to certain things. And like, also just learning like in the gym, some days will feel a lot worse than others because of certain

things that are going on. So I was like deal. And I remember at my gym had it so she's lent me this book I should probably actually give this back because I've had it for a while. Well, I heard I should probably buy this book because I've talked about it so much. Well, you it was it was a great plug. So after you said that I bought the audiobook and then I went over to her Instagram and I invited her on the Oh you did but on the podcast. Yeah me. I mean I haven't heard back from her yet, but I'll bug her That'd be cool. Yeah, it would be cool. So I just I appreciate that you talked about that. I just thought it was cool

Yeah, it's huge and I truly think it's not talked about as much as it should no I mean the whole what's interesting is so so you're Hillers like hey are you on steroids and you're like no but I'm reading about hormones you know what I mean like I don't even know I don't even I don't even understand my own hormones. No one understands. I just got a book on my own hormones. I'm not adding any yet. Yeah, no, no, no. Yeah, it's a really interesting way to look at females. And one of my biggest things was,

it's like she literally says, women are not small men. And that's her main thing. Because it's like, you can't train like a small man, like you have to train differently. And I really that really stuck with me. I found that very interesting, because I feel like in, in the grand scheme of things, everyone thinks I'll just train, just train like a man. But it's like, no, we are not small men, like we need to train differently. Give me give me like, like just one takeaway like a place

where that's applicable. How that could be applied or why knowing that's important. Like one thing you would do different as a woman. Like they need to drink more water or they need to drink less water or like what takeaway that you're like, hey we we're different. Yeah, like depending on like where you are in your cycle, like changing certain foods or supplementing with protein is like really, really crucial compared to men. Because because you're like, there's less of it in your body, apparently, or something. I should know this stat actually I have it I wrote it down oh crazy all right let's hear it my memory isn't great but I've wrote it down Jake Chapman I can smell my wife ovulating liar where is it oh it's in this one uh Bernie again and women are not men. Can't that get you arrested in Canada now? Fair question.

I don't know. Where is it here? Yeah, so there's two there's two main phases and Especially when you're in the luteal phase you want protein within 20 to 30 minutes post-wad and it's crucial during this time Lodeo right down why Lodeo luteal phase a little phase the second final phase of the menstrual cycle Occurring after ovulation and before menstruation. Okay, you need protein there tons of protein there and like your follicular phase Which is like your period and then like just after is when it's crucial, like that's when you will feel the best because you're low hormone phase. So you

will start to like gradually ramp up production of estrogen, but like that's your lowest stage of estrogen. So you'll feel the best then and then slowly towards like as you get nearing your next period It's slowly gonna get worse exercise will feel a little bit harder. You'll crave certain foods You'll want to like increase your carbon take towards the end nearing your period. Oh, you'll want a boyfriend more You'll feel like a lot of. That's probably why I was crying. Uh, crying is fun. It is. It's good for the soul. You ever, you ever see this TV show called chosen? No. It's on, um, are you a religious person? Like I was raised a Catholic,

but like I don't go to church often. You have like a Bible and you have a Bible? You read a Bible? I've read parts of a Bible. You don't have one like by your bed like Dallin and every night before you go to bed, you read a couple of lines? No, no, no, no.

Or James Briggs, James Briggs just holds the Bible in one hand, everything he does, does all his rope climbs with one hand. I definitely, there has been parts, like stages of my life where like I've found certain things like very interesting. Yeah. But I've never like before bed opened up the Bible, no. There's this show everyone keeps talking about called chosen and

people have been telling me about it. It's a, um, it's four seasons. Yeah. Oh, what is this? I guess it's the, uh, chosen as a series. I don't even know what it is. Uh, I only, I watched the first two episodes last night, but it was crazy cause I'm not religious at all. I'm not a Bible dude at all okay first every time Jesus comes on the screen I start to cry really and it's not even like it's so it's so weird I told my wife my do you cry when that dude comes on the screen she's like no I'm like Jesus Christ what's wrong with me sometimes I'll cry and I don't even know why I'm crying like

at the gym this year I've cried. I feel like so many people see me crying they're just like oh she's crying again. Oh just at the gym? Yeah. People work out his heart sometimes I get sad. Oh that's why I cry cuz I'm gay? Okay you think I'm just really attracted to him? Or that I'm gonna ask my wife about that? It's a crying show. I don't know, but it is weird. At the very end of the first episode, he comes on and my eyes started watering. I'm not sobbing.

I don't even know. Then he came on in the second episode and my eyes started watering again. You're like, what is going on? Yeah, I'm like, listen. My wife's like, what's wrong with you? I know. Do you think it's weird going on? Yeah, I'm like listen. Oh, I was like what's wrong with you? I know you think it's weird She's like no. Yeah. Oh, maybe I'm maybe I'm in my follicular phase. Maybe it has nothing to do with the show I did cry a Moana to also I

Have seen the one it's you it's not worth seeing did you see inside out to that's a good one I haven't seen Moana 2 also. I haven't seen Moana 2. It's not worth seeing. Did you see Inside Out 2? That's a good one. No, but I like the premise of those shows. That's one of my favorite movies. Inside Out. Inside Out and the second one is like 10 times better because they bring in like anxiety

and like all those things that you start to like feel when you're getting older. And it's like I wish when I was a kid, I had that show, like that movie. Cause I think it's like, it's a fun way to introduce these emotions that you get when you get older. Oh, I just tell my kids to push it down. You're like, pretend it's not there. Push. They're like, I'm so sad.

Our dog's going to die. I'm like, push it down. Push it down. My wife's like, you're a horrible father. Yeah, that's awful. I know. But you still do it anyways. Yeah, still. Push it down. I don't even think they know what it means. I just think I'm being funny, but yeah, maybe they do. Maybe I'm ruining them. Yeah, you don't know. Stephen Flores, I cried in the Passion of Christ. Well, yeah, they the whole movie. Have you seen that movie? No, it's old But it's just it's two hours of them beating Jesus to death. It's it's crazy. Oh my gosh Yeah, that's you crazy. You would need protein after that. Yeah My favorite movie that I cry every time even though I know the ending is the horse movie that. Yeah, my favorite movie that I cry every time even

though I know the ending is the horse movie that I said is my favorite Secretariat. Have you seen that movie? Yeah but not in a long- that's an old movie right? I think ish. Let me look it up. When was it? Terri it 2010 Yeah, okay. I cry every time I watch this movie and the horse wins We know it wins, but I cry every time does he get put down at the end. No Oh, it doesn't it's just the horse wins and I'm proud even like um I Also one of my favorite movies that I cry every time is the blind side because it's like such a heartfelt ending and I'm Like tear up every time the blind have you seen the notebook? Yeah, I have I haven't watched in a really long time though. Oh

The blind side is like a football movie. Yes Have you not seen that movie it's a good no, excuse me I haven't what Mm-mm. Oh, it's a really good movie. I only watch now what Andrew tells me to watch. I'm watching Dexter now. He has a whole notes app of it. Yeah, me too.

Of movies to watch. Yeah. Oh, he does. Oh, movies to wow. Well, like his favorite movie, he showed us because he got brought up at dinner the one night and he has a list of like ranked movies and then ones to watch and like his favorite. I was like, wow, I've never done that. He's a savant in that way and I don't use that term loosely.

Like if he hasn't seen a movie in five years, he'll be like, hey, do you remember this in this movie? I'm like, no. He's like, did you see the movie? And I'm like, yeah. And then he'll while I'm just on the screen with him, he can go right to the timecode where it's at. He remembers like, that's crazy. It's crazy.

It is. It is bizarre. Like, that's nuts. But the hemorrhage is normal. I don't think he tries. I just know, but just like, it's just naturally like it happens. Yeah, couldn't be me. I'm the opposite

I don't know any actors no authors or musicians or Artists not like savvy with that kind of stuff Well, it's nice having you on thank you Thank you Yeah, and thanks for doing this. I know you cherish your time and You have a wonderful day. Happy Sunday. Yeah, and thanks for doing this. I know you cherish your time and uh, no problem It's my resting. I can do whatever I want. All right, we'll be watching

Uh, congratulations on everything and thanks for sharing so much with us. Thank you. See you later. Good luck at waterpalooza. Thank you. See ya Ciao That's one of the easiest guests i've ever had. Mm. That was nice. Yeah the the the the Don't worry, uh, Hiller's video and her fame will slowly crush her and drain her soul. God, I hope not. She's only, uh, she's only two years of success away from being fucked up. No, she's great. Uh, she, she really does remind me of Alexis Raptis.

Yeah. Uh, she doesn't know what she is. Uh, she's so intelligent. Yeah. She doesn't know yet when she was like I can't train people or like yeah Can you imagine like you're at the golf course and you go to get a drink and she's at the fucking cart dude, I those tick-tock like golf cart girls always pop up on my feed and That they're just

Yeah, that'd be bizarre. Oh That's a thing. Is it yeah chicks at cart. Is that what golf course is that? Oh no shit I didn't even know I guess when the one she was talking about she just has like a building that she says it's like a snack shack Like when she said halfway house, I guess that's like their version of a snack shack What's it called? What was the position golf? Cart like a cart girl golf cart girls? Yeah.

We go to images. Oh, geez. Oh yeah. It's definitely there's no, wow. Does she actually, but most of the girls drive an app. Oh shit. I get it. Yeah. They drive an actual golf cart around that has just like, yep. And then they get like ice and all sorts of drinks and snacks and how do they women should not be driving golf carts. Well, and they even drive

them like backwards around the course, like they drive them the opposite direction of play cheese I Bet you there's some epic fails Yeah, probably He's a massage and they make they make crazy tips though Yeah, really them this is them driving around giving out like shots or beers or whatever and All they got to do is flirt with the dudes

Because it's all dudes like barely any chicks are golfing and They're all out away from There yeah, it's just they're all out away from their wives. Yeah, exactly yeah, they just they spat their eyes a little bit and make some some cheeky remark or something and it's like, oh, here's another $10. There's some crazy photos if you Google that. Yeah, I bet. Damn, oh Bev Cart. Here's a whole Instagram account. Yeah, it's golf culture is crazy.

God, I want to say something so inappropriate. I mean I'm gonna it in the private chat just so I can get it off my chest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. She, yeah, she kind of looks like one honestly. Yeah, well, as soon as I looked up the pictures I was like, oh Yeah, that's a hot I bet you she I honest I would not be surprised if she did that already Like that's her summer job Sevan is like Jesus speak to me my child Makes me cry and brings me real emotion, but he's not real cheese. I took a wicked turn. Hey, who are those people? What people isn't it isn't enormous tits? That's not Seema

No, no, no, no, they're different people I got the two Seema has enormous tits, but she's not enormous tits, correct shit, I shit off. Best job I ever had a beer cart girl on the golf course. Yeah, my bad. Should give you a gun and a machete. Hit the waste management open here in Scottsdale for crazy. Hey, didn't that take like a crazy turn this year? Will it never be the same? Didn't something crazy happen there this year where it's like, I can't do that again? At the waste management tournament? I think they had like something happened

where somebody made a shot and then like the entire grandstand surrounding the green just started throwing beer cans at the at the green. Like, yeah, that's normal. That's normal. Right. Normal. I thought they always do that. I thought that was the whole thing about that hole. Oh, maybe. I don't know. Maybe. Yeah. OK, sure.

If it wasn't that, then it was the fact that some I think some guy like ripped his shirt off and like Ran around look I think he got fined I can't I think it rained or something and it got so Crowded there that people didn't fit on the path and some weird shit started happening I heard basically that if you were there and you had to take a piss you were fucked like you could Like it would take you three hours to go to like 200 yards I didn't know that someone someone tell me in the comments what happened what's wrong with you guys rained in Scottsdale that's crazy you guys told me how to save my dog from cancer and now you can't tell me what happened at a fucking golf tournament seve ever been turned on by fart I'm not turned by

anything that the butt does other than just sit there like just the butt by itself turns me on if it takes any actions Does any of the things that a butt does I'm don't not interested in it. I Like button just a homeostasis just complete chill ass. I don't like it pooping farting Gaping none. I don't like any of the activities. I guess twerking is cool the activities. I guess twerking is cool. I'm getting back into tennis. It's surprising how uncivilized it's become. Yeah. Yeah, because everybody's coming from pickleball. Did you see that there was a stat that people that the champions of like the World Pickleball Tournament or something like that made more

than a WNBA No, but that doesn't surprise me at all. It was amazing. They're like, oh my god, what the hell? How is pickleball making more money than that WNBA? Uh, why the fuck do you think? People want to watch fucking pickleball dude. Nobody gives a shit about the WNBA uh Nobody gives a shit about the WMBA. No one batted an eye in New Orleans when a college football game went on hours after a dude plowed through a crowd in his car. Don't worry, Craig Richie will be making a video about it soon. About how wrong all those people were.

Yeah, how dare they. How dare they. How dare everybody exist when there's like genocide and shit. My kids were just, my kids are like, are we putting the dog down? Are we putting the dog down? And they're, they've been just tripping for like three or four days on it. Yeah. It comes up two or three times a day.

I'm like, listen, we're going to put the dog down. Eventually we're going to gather around two hours later. You're going to be like, can we go to the park? Yeah. Like, no, I'm like yes I'm a wise man. I know these things. I've done this the thing or two because we've seen a thing Oh, the football game was 36 hours after the dude got People got plowed

Okay. Yeah. No, it's fine. No worries. Oh, as they crashed it over the 12 hour mark. It's all good. Yeah, it's all good. It's all good. Is that really true? New Orleans had a football game the very next day. Yeah, it was the Sugar Bowl. It was one of the college football playoff games. It was supposed to be played the day of the like the day of after the attack or like whatever because it happened in the middle of the like the day of uh after the attack or like whatever because it happened in the middle of the night were they afraid that there was going to be there must have been like some crazy well fake security that they probably pretended to up the security well here the the thing was is the fact that they found ids there so when the guy plowed through the the street of people

though when the cop showed up through the street of people, though when the cops showed up, they're like, oh shit, there are IEDs like in the area. And when you have that many people there for New Year's as well as for the football game, like you gotta shut everything down and make sure there's not any other IEDs. So yeah. IED people, let me explain to people

who aren't as understand how the military works. Sorry improvised explosive device. It's not all of us are like in the know Caleb. Yeah. Yeah my bad Dirt look. Yeah, there are other things out there that could have been hazardous. So yeah, you got us you got us Check everything out. Make sure there's not anything else 80% of the shows Caleb's done. There's a bed behind him. He started off his career on this podcast, doing it in a bunk bed. There were some crazy shots in the early days. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was, I was in a hospital for a little bit. I remember the ones where like you were in a bunk bed. Yeah. That in a bunk bed. Holy shit. What is going on? Yeah.

I'm like, shit, he's elevated his game. Yeah. Right. Is it yeah that in a bunk bed? Holy shit. What is going on? Yeah, maybe one I'm like shit. He's elevated his game. Yeah, right Maybe one of these days i'll actually have like an office or something One day Where are we how much it's crazy you went home that went by so fast I know i'm kind of sad I get spoiled when you do that It's nice, right? Yeah Yeah

Even my sister called she goes Kayla's back. I'm like now Crazy kind of we're almost almost to a point where we can just be be done. Your your sweatshirt has become quite the. Touchpoint. I know. And now I'm wearing it just on principle, because I know it's so mad about it. It's going to be 94 degrees. You're like, fuck, I got to put this thing on. Exactly. Fuck you guys. I don't even remember when Sevon recruited Caleb, he didn't need a casting couch. I should, do you remember the very first show we did?

I can't even remember how I met you. I have no memory of any of it. So I'm pretty sure, so the only way that I got in that you even like that my message is even populated in your shit was because you were trying to sell that motorcycle. Oh, now I'm starting to remember. So then I was like, the story before it. Keep going. Keep going.

Yeah. So then I was like, oh, like, so then I asked how much it was. It was way too much for me to be fucking buying. And then that's so then my shit just populated in there. And then at some point, I was just always listening to the show when you were doing it just on your own. And then I, uh, you had said something about how you needed some help. You wanted some help like with clips or just whatever.

So like, I don't know anything about that, but I want to, I just want to do it and just, just to have something to do. So then, uh, you ended up calling me while I was at work. I was in a hospital, I was working in the in a clinic. And you called me while I was at work, like, so between patients, I was like at the window trying to get service and talking to you. Like, what you wanted me to do and like, just all that shit. Hey, shut up, leave the thermometer in your ass for another five minutes. Go on, Sam. And then eventually I didn't even have a webcam. That was the other thing. I didn't have like a camera. I didn't even have, I had to like go out and buy like a headset. So I had to buy a headset. And then I had to buy a headset. And then I had to buy a headset. And then I had to buy a headset.

And then I had to buy a headset. And then I had to buy a headset. And then I had to buy a headset. And then I had to buy a headset. And then I had to buy a headset. And then I had to buy a headset. And then I had to buy a headset. And then eventually I didn't even have a webcam. That was the other thing. I didn't have like a camera. I didn't even have I had to like go out and buy like a headset. So I had even have you on though. Why would I have

the clips dude on? I don't even know. I think you just said like, Hey, do you want to like, you're like, Hey, do you want to help me like, I don't with the back end of stuff or something. And I was like, sure, like, I don't know what I'm doing, But I'll figure out the program and I can just fucking do it Because I think maybe you had Camera who was on but like you were trying to pull you wanted to like have things to reference Maybe it was a cross-export show or something. Just like basically what you did now on this show. You just start pulling shit up

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Hey, can you come on and just pull shit up on the back end? Right. Yeah, and that's what I did. So, and I just didn't have a webcam for a while, and I just like, I was just the blank guy. I just like sat in the back and didn't say anything and yeah. Do your parents know you do a podcast? Yeah. They actually, it's really funny. They, my dad like geeks out about it. Oh, he does? He loves it. Oh, yeah, he loves it my mom knows she's actually she

Just kind of like indifferent about it. She's a photographer and so she'll she just she not understands like media She runs her own Instagram page and all that stuff. And so she's like, yeah, it's another thing about my dad like He geeks about it all the time. He's like, oh my god, you talked to so-and-so today. That's awesome Was it cool? Did you like them like god? god, I wish my parents, I would, I, I, I chased my mom away. You know, I should blame Jake Chapman. Jake Chapman chased my mom away with all the dick talk. Yes. Jeremy World, Caleb, I still need your address. No, I'm not giving you my address, dude. All right, that was easy for us

Iskanderani for the new sweatshirt go fund me There's a famous UFC coach in Canada With that name for us. What is that? Is that Iranian name? UFC coach or yeah, he's just a famous famous famous Veras hobby. It's a hobby. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, try star gym in Montreal Crazy famous what what ethnicity is that Ross? Persian it's uh, oh Lebanese. Oh, oh there was a Lebanese composer named photos It's a Oh Lebanese. Oh, oh there was a Lebanese composer named for us

Yeah, he's Lebanese his parents are Lebanese immigrants he's a he's like first-generation Well, that's what my dad's my dad's my dad's Lebanese immigrant army, but but he but he's armenian. Oh Oh, it's are they syrian for us. Sulaimani syrian writer poet For us the hobby for arab prince poet Have you watched that show chosen No, I haven't I know you've said something about it before but actually never got around watching it Dave saw it and told me to watch it and Yeah, and then a bunch of people have told me to see it. Dude so at the very end and I didn't I like I don't really know what's going on like the first episode's crazy because it starts like

six threads up simultaneously. I shit you not. It's like a lot of threads. And the cast is crazy eclectic. And I don't know what Pharisees are. I can't tell who's a Jew and who's an Arab and who's like, I can't even fucking figure it out. They all look the fucking same to me. There's some sprinkling of black people in there, Ethiopian looking people. There's a couple of classic Jew looking dudes, like rabbi looking dudes. But at the end, there's this chick and at the end, her name is Lilith. OK, and she's all fucked up. I think she was raped when she was a kid or something.

And at the end, so you haven't seen Jesus yet. I'm assuming this whole series is going to be about Jesus. It's called The Chosen, right? Right. And at the end, he puts his hands on her head and he calls her by her name. And he says, you are redeemed. And I just started just like, I just melted into the couch. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. It was crazy. Half the cast looks like seven It was crazy Seven don't get too into it quality drops off in season three. Oh, man. That's too bad She's a prostitute and and always under demonic oppression. I don't Okay, I don't I think she was raped as a kid Hmm, and then her dad died. She'd never dad her dad died. Oh Yeah, she's mega fucked then yeah, and then

And then and then in the second season He just comes over for dinner to her house and I started crying. Crazy. I looked at my wife like, do you cry when that dude comes on? She's like, Nope. Jew. I told my wife she's like, what's Jesus again? I'm like, he's the king of the Jews.

He's the king of your people. I'd tell like five times during the movie. I don't even know if that's true. She goes, what happens at the end? Why do they kill him? Like, I don't know, but but he does die. Your wife said this? Yeah, I don't know why they killed him either.

Got stealing. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. You have to we need to have will on and ask him. Ken, why do they kill him? Anyway, it's so far. It's so it's it's really good and there's this dude in there named Matthew Who's a tax collector and he's the trippiest dude. He's like he's like Andrew Hiller if Andrew didn't have testosterone He's like he's it he's the weirdest fucking dude ever I he's like he's it so he's the weirdest fucking dude ever I think though all these people all these people are there's so many trippy people they

introduced and I'm assuming because I the assignment was Simon an apostle who are the apostles I should this is gonna be for me apostles names this is gonna ruin the movie Bartholomew. Okay, but we I met Andrew already. I met Andrew. Matthew, I met Matthew. Oh, there's two Matthews. There's two Simons. I don't understand that. There are two Simons? I think I met Thadius. I met these two dudes who came over to this chick's house for dinner.

Yeah, here's the... keeping it real. Simon is Peter. Yeah, I don't understand that. Simon becomes Peter. So you're meeting all these people and they're jacked up. They're all doing jacked up shit Simon better be careful Simon's gonna get killed if he's not careful He's doing some bad shit He's a Jew he's a Jew and the Jew and he's telling

so that the I Could change my story, but basically this is what I understand what going on. All these Jews live together in this town, right? But they're ruled by Romans, right? Okay. And so the Romans are just like, they're the cops. So they're the Romans, like are all dressed in these red outfits and they, and basically if there's a fight, they break it up or they collect taxes from the Jews, but they basically are just, and they kind of look down at the Jews, not

behind their back, but to their face. They're not like white liberals you know what I mean right they're just like fuck you dirty you know what I mean you dirty Jew you know what I mean they'll just openly beat the shit out of them or something yeah if they need to but the Jews are kind of cool with it they seem like they're just like okay this is just our what we'd have to deal with it's across their bear they bet thank you and then so but there's this one Jew named Simon and He's tattling on the other Jews who are breaking some rules regarding fishing. You're only there's some rules around There's already regulation around fishing right? Hmm great. So it should be the Jews against the Romans They're the cops and then the the Jews are just like they're you know trying to fight against the Romans or at least you know

Like not fight, but like keep their shit together right as a team mm-hmm other fuckers be trained as people He's basically a double agent He's telling he he's a fisherman and he tells on the other fishermen who are breaking the rules to the Romans. It's sketchy I don't like it Hmm Simon Peter was it Simon, or is it Peter? the the the the

the the the the the the the the saying the soundtrack to Tarzan? Simon Peters the best that possible because he screws up over and over and over

but is a man's man. Yeah, he's, I can't wait to see him with his shirt off. Dude, he's wearing this thing in the whole, in the two episodes, it looks like a canvas bag like that you would buy like raw coffee beans in. That's his shirt. Yeah, yeah. But you can see his traps in his chest

and his forearms are just crazy His name was Simon Oh Jesus changed it to Peter so he sounded gayer You ruin our names now ruin it for me. Jesus Pedro That was names Pedro because we wanted him to sound Mexican less gay. Yeah, I wanted you to sound less gay There's this story unraveling in the UK that's so nuts I don't I almost wish someone didn't show it to me Mmm, are you it's I? Think it's called the Rotterdam rapes. Have you been five you seen this story? No, what the fuck? and the the

the the the the the the the the

the the it is. It is crazy, dude. So basically, the UK, all of Europe, not Poland, some European countries, but the UK, Ireland, Germany, France. I didn't realize this was happening as bad as it was there. But for the last 20 years, they've been just slowly letting in more and more Muslims, right? Right. And if they did anything wrong or you spoke up against it, you were deemed an Islamophobe. It's kind of like their BLM moment. You know what I mean?

Like if you saw a black dude like stabbing five. You saw it. We saw it happen in New York City. Remember that black guy slashed that girlfriend, that her boyfriend boyfriend's throat and she didn't want to identify him because she thought it would be racist or that chick in Germany was gangbang by five black dudes and she didn't want to identify him because she was white privileged? Right. Like they have this crazy fucking Psyop on all those on all those white people in those European countries and oh here we go we get to hear about

where we live. Yeah you're one person you're the only guy that fucking watches this show everybody else is American. Yeah we're racist if we notice anything here yeah it's fucking nuts so that's been happening and I guess I guess so what's been happening did you see that clip the other day I played where the the seven pakistani man Where the police broke into the home and there's a 13 year old naked girl there drunk and they arrested the girl Yeah for drunken disorderly dude

Thousands of incidents like that are coming out thousands and thousands not like hundreds like they're saying it might be over 100 000 Native fucking uk girls have been raped by these fucking Muslim rape gangs. And that the police have been sweeping it under the rug because they don't want it to be an incident. Hey, and you think, oh, that can't be, Sevan. Well, let me tell you what happened in my own town five years ago. In San Francisco, we have a subway there. It's called BART, Bay Area Rapid Transit.

And five years ago, they said, hey, hey we're not gonna show the footage anymore that they used to show all the cct footage to the public because they thought it would promote racism. And what they're saying is is it like a 87% of the fucking crimes that are happening on barter happening by Melanated people and they're afraid that people are gonna draw that as a cause instead of a correlate. So we're gonna hide it Good idea a Sweden yeah, I guess Sweden. Thank you. Wow. Look at even day. I guess Sweden's having some crazy issues, too The police are scared to death of the Muslims over over there, yeah Yeah, that's the way that's the way it was. That's the way it was in the United States with black people. But I think it's kind of changing. I think it's like now we're all like equal

again. Or more so. It's crazy. Yeah, we just stopped. It's crazy. Yeah, the first article I find on it is Elon and JK Rowling saying that they need to do some shit about it, which is crazy. Yeah, the first article I find on it is Elon and JK Rowling saying that they need to do some shit about it, which is crazy. Dude, Elon Musk a couple days ago asked for the Prime Minister of the UK to step down. Oh, Yo, Elon. Hey, man.

Hey, and do you know that the only thing the UK has is tourism? When they lose that, they're done Yeah, they have nothing. They have no they have nothing else. There's yeah, everybody just wants to go there because it's older than america Yeah, so you just want to go and look at it like Why would anybody want to go that like it's like when we went to i went to paris one time actually I went to paris like five or six times and I was so disappointed by that. It is like the dirtiest most disgusting city I've ever been in which city

Paris when did you go there? What year? It would have been 2007 to 2009 2010 Okay It was disgusting. I was like, oh my god, it's gonna be amazing. This is like we're gonna see the Eiffel Tower We're gonna do a lot of law like Eiffel Tower is cool The Louvre is cool. Everything around it is straight fucking garbage And then you while we were walking through the streets we would have like we had these fucking kids

Throwing fireworks from their like fifth or sixth story apartment building Down at us while we were walking down the sidewalk me and my family And so they were just like like just have like m80s going off while we were walking down the side I've never been known to like tourists Dude, it's crazy. I'm gonna be friendly to tourists. Yeah, I had some issues there in France. I went there in the Early 90s it's like okay well, you can go fuck yourselves. And now we have New York City. God, I want you.

When I was a kid, New York City was crazy dangerous. And then in my 20s and 30s, it got crazy safe. And now it's gone to shit again. I wonder if they'll ever get it back again. I don't know. Do you know how they got it back, right? They just they just let the police just go fucking wild They basically said you can you can stop anyone who's suspicious

That's how you stop a lot of shit. I feel like yeah, and hey, I'm I'm perfectly okay with that and like, you know New York City, you can't drive until you're like 18 mmm, I'm okay with like big metropolitan areas like Having some different rules. Yeah, I agree. Oh, shut your fucking face, dude. Jake, just you quiet. Just talk about dicks.

We'll handle the fucking managing of the countries. Anyway, if you want to, if you want to see a crazy article about that, an article came out in Newsweek. It's pretty long. I read it. It's one of those things that's so dark. It's even dark for me. It is so dark. It is so dark what's happening in the UK, if the story is true.

Stop and frisk. Yeah. It's pretty bad, man. No worries worries I was there in 84 it was the same. Damn. They've been letting too many people in next line nobody wants to go there. Yep that's right. You can't let people in so fast that it changes the culture of the country. It's different saying nobody wants to go there as in tourists, but you're letting too many people in being immigrants. That's the difference. All of us in the EU who spend 12 hours a day grabbing our ankles with our anus exposed to our government hate Americans for their freedom.

Oh, that makes sense. Crazy. I would hate, I would hate, if you can't defend yourself, I'd hate myself too. I was getting butt fucked all day and there was a country where that's not happening. Newsweek is where all the pedos go. I don't know if that's true. That's true. Let me know if that's true. I'll stop reading it. I go there because I think it's where all the libtards go and I want to make sure I get some libtard news in me. So hey my town's awesome as libtardy as my town is my town's awesome.

Nothing nothing bad ever happens here. Unless you don't have a dad. This this one says uh start oh, oh, okay All right I got you I you chosen you can do whatever you want just gotta stay focused I keep going, act like y'all don't know this I almost lost it over on the bars but I'm choosy yeah I get off those ends and I float when Dooney died I couldn't cry I couldn't cope when girl my dad I swear to family law so I been stepping in the mud with some boots and a raincoat You seen us coming in he stayed off you same boat

You lost some loss. I guess we in the same boat. I See a lot of people more. I don't know My brother my daddy's son. Oh, yeah, I see you calling but can't pick up the phone life is hard It's a lot of things I've been going on I am star broken hearted, but we keep going strong We shooting our shot and music, hoping no missin' So, sorry I ain't answer I've been busy Lot of things that bother me lately Jordy wish I could go back in time And erase it

I'm fighting demons, fighting cases Living through the laws of trials and tribulations It's more than life when you're chosen He freestyled that that's pretty good Dr. Seuss would have been a pimp if he were alive. Jeez, dude. I cannot believe how good this kid is. This kid is so good.

It's crazy. Did he actually have an ankle bracelet on when he said fighting cases? Oh, I don't know. Let me see if there's a... That would have been fucking hilarious. I showed my kids that and they asked me if it's a boy or a girl. uh, to do record So this kid, this white kid just cruises around and asks people to rap. I need to find his Instagram account. I follow it, but I forget what it is, but it's so good.

Look how dorky he used to be. I mean, guess he still is dorky. He got his own cool voice. Anyway, cool. This other kid's account, if you can find his account, look, he went through puberty. Look at him. Here's before puberty on the right. He's a grown boy. God, he's good. Man, impressive.

I hope my kids become rappers. Really? Yeah, that would be cool. Or musicians, singers. Brits are powerless to stop their daughters from being raped by the thousands by Muslims. Then my God, why do Americans have so many guns? It's so much safer here. I'm going to read that the way I want to read that. I don't even know what you're saying.

But what you're saying is is like, hey fucktards, we have guns. So people don't rape our daughters by the thousands tens of thousands. Yeah. Oh shut it. What's it like having a country with no rape? That's not what I'm saying. 10 people literally just dropped off.

Okay, I'll go. I'm sorry. I'll come back guys. I'm about to start talking about penises. Please come back guys. I'm about to start talking about penises. Please come back Please come back Hey to scare you guys they need to let in Muslims to scare us they need to bring in UFOs and drones No, we're Anti-crivetic devices You think that guy's just batshit crazy who wrote that man I Don't know you could you can spin a pretty significant

Web Somebody said that did you saw that thing where he's the body that was in the truck didn't the DNA didn't match the his kids. Oh In front of Trump Tower, yeah Stepdad I Don't know. I'll you could you could This would take some serious doing because I was trying I was trying to plot it out in my own head if you wanted to make a statement like that and This would take some serious doing because I was trying I was trying to plot it out in my own head If you wanted to make a statement like that And you just wanted to like disappear off the face of the earth

Yeah, you do that you you get a you just I don't know it It's probably not that difficult to get a body And then shoot it with a desert eagle Put it in a self-driving vehicle with, oh, propane tanks, fireworks. Oh, and then have it drive itself to and park in front of Trump Tower with all of your passport and all of your, uh, like personal information in there. Blow it up. Like it, it probably already was, uh was it had like a remote initiator like it was set off by like a time fuse or something like that and then you disappear off into

Mexico and never to be seen of seen or heard from again in nutshell you're saying that there's now can there's say theories out there that he faked his own death. Yeah. Because then also, I guess his signal phone number like the app signal you can like he it was changed after he after he blew up. So somehow somebody got into a single count changes phone number after he blew up. So somehow somebody got into his signal count, changed his phone number after he blew himself up. How would they find the DNA just like a piece of like the guy's brain blew out like 50 feet away? And they scraped it up and then they said, hey, can we check your kid's DNA?

Yeah. Yeah. D.N.A. doesn't match Trump Tower bomb. Soldier who died in Cybertruck explosion left note saying it was a Las Vegas Cybertruck bombing appears to be suicide. Is any of the media, please positively ID driver of exploded Tesla They found his military ID in the truck and I guess all the guns that he had in the back were like melted and They're saying that they identified him through his tattoos and the ID that was left over. Oh, time to wake up Tesla, FB, Las Vegas, Cybertruck has PTSD, personal grievances. Well, clearly he has some issues.

Yeah. has PTSD personal grievances well clearly he has some issues yeah whether scared the government is going to kill him or say something's going on no one does that yeah it's pretty crazy because the Las Vegas suffered gunshot wound before explosion right so but and also from what i understand nobody oh shit nobody registered like a gunshot during Like while it was parked outside of Trump Tower. I mean I would imagine there's cameras Everywhere and it's gonna pick up if somebody fired just fired anything in the vicinity and They're saying that they didn't And they're saying that they didn't pick up anything. You think maybe he shot someone, killed someone.

Speaking at a news conference in Las Vegas, sheriff's and FBI officials said the identity of the driver had not been officially confirmed through DNA, but evidence pointed towards it being Matthew Livesberger, 37. This is two days ago. The man who died had suffered a gunshot wound to the head prior to the rented Tesla vehicle bursting into flames. Shoot someone in the head, throw him in the Tesla, go explode it in front of the Trump Tower and you're dead.

Yeah. On paper. Oh my goodness. If somebody has that full video, can you send it to me? Because I want to see. I haven't had a chance to look at the whole video itself, but that's just the, it was a theory that I was cooking up because you can also, I also found out you can just like, if you have your own tattoos, like you can just make them and put them on anything. Just like those tattoos you get for your kids, like the Conor McGregor stuff.

Yeah. Where did you see that the DNA didn't match? It was on that Sean Ryan show with, I think name is a match shoemaker. He's a Wow So that so what happened was he sent out an email to like using proton mail, which is like a super encrypted email Account that you can use. Yeah Andy the Matt levels burger did the guy the guy blew himself up He sent out an email to a bunch of different people like rogan sean ryan this guy uh matt shoemaker and then he uh he was like hey i would like to get on sean ryan's show on new year's eve so that i can or at least the day before whatever so that i can

talk about what's going on in the government and i I guess he was trying to get, he kept like persisting trying to get in contact with them, trying to get in contact, all that shit. And nobody was responding because what he was saying was like, just, it was that manifesto, that whatever that document is, just seemed ludicrous and pretty wild. And then, um, it didn't pan out. Obviously nobody got in contact with him and then he just blew himself up instead. Which I find weird. Like, Hey, I want to distribute all this email, all this information, but I'm

just going to go kill myself because I don't know, maybe that was his plan all along after the podcast or something. Are there multiple angles of this thing? I don't know. That's the only angle that I've actually seen is that one. Also, Tim Kennedy is getting his 10 seconds of his second 10 seconds of fame because he was on a TV show with this guy. It was like one of those like operators versus operators running gun bullshit

Damn yeah, didn't even damage the the building itself just Shot off a bunch of fireworks blew up the truck the inside of the truck and him Damn Hey let him do his thing dude, no You've been lying for as long as you've been on the internet. You can go yourself Yeah, people don't like Tim Kennedy. Why is that? Because he's he's lied about all of his shit. He sounds he makes himself sound like Rambo And he's never done any of those things Yeah, he anytime his name comes up around like guys, uh, they're like, uh, uh, yeah.

Stolen valor and anti site two a, is that true? I don't know about the anti two a thing. I think he he's probably said something along the lines of like, yeah, I think we need to regulate who, uh, who gets the guns. Did he apologize? Did he make an apology video? Someone told me he made an apology video. Oh, he might have.

I didn't register with me. I didn't watch it or anything. He seems like a cool guy. Yeah, sure. He's a good media personality. Yes, anti-2A, that's crazy. That's retarded. We're and end up like David Weed That's a black trombone like this white white my band

Son of a bitch, I'll fix it. This is this is a this is a great story Is this story could this story might help a lot of people. Okay. This story might really help a lot of people. I struggled as a black trombone player. This white man, my band director, saw the problem. He said, Dave,

you got some big ass lips. You should cut the tune. I'm like, man, I should fuck you up. And he handed me this mouthpiece, like it was a joint. And he said, try it. And I was like, uh. And I did it. And I put the mouthpiece up to my mouth and the way my Negro lips perfectly lined up,

I felt like when King Arthur pulled out Excalibur and the sword and the stone, like I was the one. I went from being this mediocre black trombone player to first chair Chicago All Catholic Honor Band in two months. I was so good on this tuba that I got a full scholarship to Morehouse College to play the tuba all due to racism. Right?

I got a full ride due to this white man's advice. So I went back to go see him. Going homecoming for my 10 year reunion. And I knocked on this door and he said, tubalips. I said, hey, relax. I struggled as a. Oh shit, hey, tubalips. Oh fuck, that's funny.

Hey, and like, you know, like 80% of that story is true. Oh, yeah. And that guy just parlayed it into a great. Yeah, for sure. Just a great up. Just a great up. The other day, my wife was like, I was making fun of her on the show and I came back inside and she's like trying to like protest like what I said wasn't true. I'm like, listen, did you think it was funny? Yeah, everyone thought it was funny. You pipe down. 80% true. down 80% true like don't tell me it's about the story yeah what are you talking it's about the reaction yeah I just took the story made it better than real life

been out all day oh shit this might be funny I haven't seen this yet but this might be good let me see this this might be really good wow this is genius if this is what I think it is Bud Light presents, Real Men of Genius. Today we salute you. Oh, he doesn't actually talk. God, what a great idea to go out and put Trump stickers on liberals' cars and then they attack each other.

Oh, that's old?'s all though god that's a great idea that's good bring up a clip of the chosen so we can see you cry I'm good thank you pass thanks though this guy I can't be the only one every time Jesus comes on the screen you cry. I can't be the only one. All right. I think that's it. Oh, wow. Holy shit.

How come this isn't, wow. Susan knows it. Wow. That's wow I'm gonna text you in private chat again. Sorry you guys can't know this yet Jesus, my typing is horrible. My wife loved the fact that you called me out on my spelling. That phone looks like an iPad in your hands my son. Oh my god. Oh my god. I have two phones. I mean that not one of them just sit one of them just sits here. Just not secret know if secrets is the right word.

My balls are tingling. Yeah, that's good, right? Yeah, that's nuts. It's good for all of us, guys. Good for all of us. Hey, um... I did not see... I have not watched this video yet. Before I go, I want to see this video with you guys. Did you guys watch Taylor get level forward? This video, I cannot believe the, oh, this video already has 3000

views. The worst show on this channel is my show now. It used to be the best show. Now it's like the worst show. This is crazy. This show is killing. How to coach CrossFit. McCoy Turner from the mentorship program, level four, coaching who I think is just an amazing coach already. But it's crazy. Let's see if we can... Cool. Before you get a move, I'm going to tell you how you set the feet up. I'm going to show you. You guys are going to do it. I'm going to check and I'm going to make some corrections. If you're smart, now when you're next set, after you do your PVC pipe, when you go to your PVC pipe throughs now, that'd be my first two people check it before they set,

like before they do anything. It's like, let's check those feet, boom, boom. Good job on the feet, Burma. Theo, bring those feet in again. Happy, ready, and then you do your pass throughs and you start scanning down the ropes, up and down the room. Cool.

Let's go. Everybody take the PVC pipe to the hanging position, hands nice and wide. We're going to have a full grip. What I want you guys to do today when we're doing the pass throughs, we're going to start with the shrug up, then pass through, and then come down and relax, alright? When we're doing the pass through, keep the ribs down by squeezing the abs. So squeeze the abs, squeeze the butt, shrug the shoulders, toss the roof, back down.

Ready, go. Seven reps. Keep the elbows straight. If you can't keep your ribs down, make the hands a little bit wider. I just picked a random spot. random spot. So this is a coach Taylor's teaching and this guy McCoy's giving feedback he's like Taylor stop that shit I'm ready cool so we're gonna talk about your aim going into this lesson which was given having a purpose behind progression in your lesson plan you said it was at your shoulder and I taught midline yeah that's okay there's still a purpose behind progression but if you're going to teach midline you've got to look for it and you did

look for it and you made corrections along the way so that's why it's important to have a purpose behind the progression because otherwise you're going to be looking for this is a black dude that sounds like Pedro is this guy Irish I'm so confused. I thought he was Australian or British. I didn't before I didn't I had never listened this guy talk Lucky John's Everything and it's kind of like hey, I'm just gonna do this. Can you guys copy me? And then that's not Australian Is it oh, it's Scottish. It says Scottish. Okay All right Yeah, I was so lost for a second. Oh

The Scottish those are that's the one tribe that rapes the Muslims instead of the Muslims raping them The Scottish are doing it the other way. Okay, that's right Anyway, I'm hearing that this This show is amazing. Oh McCoy's bit of a giveaway. Oh shit, wow. Oh. God, you're smart.

Wow. What a cool guy. Wasn't that the guy's name on Star Trek? McCoy, the Scottish guy? No, that's Scotty... Scotty McCoy. Was it Scotty McCoy? No, I don't know. I'm Scottish and I look nothing like him.

It's actually Montgomery Scott. Captain Montgomery Scott. They just called him Scotty. Scotty. Was there a McCoy on Star Trek? Leonard McCoy. He's the Admiral. Star Trek Leonard McCoy He's the Admiral the like the oh, yeah, okay, oh

Doctor that's right. Dr. McCoy What is he always said something it was like he had like a key phrase I always forget what it is Fuck was it? Oh, I don't need a doctor. Damn it. I am a doc. Yes, it is. Oh, I'm a doctor not a whatever That's what that's it. That was this thing I'm a doctor not a nutritionist. That's right. You don't not a nutritionist. That's right. You don't need a nutritionist either, apparently, according to Eric Apollo. I'm just going to use your BMI and tell you're obese. Which actors on Star Trek were gay?

Oh, George Takei, only him. Oh, yeah He's like no, he's actually gay like George Sakai. Yeah, actually gay. He's not like I don't think his character is gay That guy went so woke. It was crazy Yeah, I liked him and then he just got fucking weird and I was like, oh, I don't know Yeah much He went't know. Yeah much He went so woke. Yeah What what was his character? He was um Something where he did math he's Asian any calculations he read the star map

Sulu yeah Sulu. Yeah All right, I think I don't I didn't do my I didn't really do much last night I just watched two episodes of The Chosen Nice I was in an airport until I just watched two episodes of The Chosen. Nice. I was in an airport until like eight o'clock. I saw some dumb ass shit with Noble again. What else could, what, what more could they possibly do wrong? It was God, what was it? I saw something again yesterday.

That brand, I wish that brand would just never pop up in anywhere where I'm around Oh my god, did you see this what just got sent in the chat? Holy fuck, dude! Wow. the what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to be a little hornier when you pull that up. Yeah, I need to be a little more on. Okay, here we go. Trump's borders are blast. Mayor Johnson says he'll be in Chicago on day one. says he'll be in Chicago on day one. Chicago, not a real bright guy. Says Tom Homan isn't welcome in Chicago.

Well, guess where Tom Homan is going to be day one? Chicago, Illinois. You don't want me there? Come get me. The people of Chicago have spoken. I went there a few weeks ago. The black community is upset. The black community is upset. The whole community is upset because violent crime is up and millions of dollars in public

services are being given to people who are not supposed to be here. Meanwhile, the tax paying community that is in bad way because the Biden administration's economic plans, they're getting robbed every day by giving millions of dollars to people who aren't supposed to be here. Mayor of Chicago, not a real bright guy. Hey, you know what's crazy is this guy's so sharp and so well spoken and yet so not well spoken. He's such a trip.

Like he kind of fumbles over his words a little bit, but he says the right thing. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, like you know exactly what he's saying. You don't have to read into it. He's clean and concise, but it's kind of like he's got like a cotton ball in his mouth at the same time. Yeah. Yeah.

And he's sharp and quick witted. Like when he gets in front of Congress he's a savage. Yeah he's a savage when he's in front of Congress he fucked AOC all up. Love that. Yeah me too. This guy's never been. I've never played a clip from this station before, I don't think. Any of Houston has a job called urban park ranger to patrol and maintain the city's public parks. This was a position held by 33 year old Joey Ellis. Evidently, there's a public park in Houston that is

frequented by gay guys looking to hook up, and this happened to be one of the parks that Joey was assigned to patrol. When Joey would see a dude backed into a spot at the park, he would routinely block in their cars with his city vehicle and refuse to let the drivers leave. He confiscated their driver's licenses and cell phones. Some of the gay dudes he detained were forced to give Joey money to be released, which they did because they didn't want their wives to find out they were cruising for dudes at the park. Some of the victims paid him via cash app. On several occasions, Joey pulled his weapon and compelled the men to strip naked and give Joey oral pleasure.

Hahahaha! pleasure What what the fuck What why He does what's this crazy job to have What a crazy job to have you go to work in your park ranger and you force gay dudes to suck your dick. Hey, you gotta get off somehow. Does that make him gay? Yeah, for sure. Before he released them, which you may be surprised to learn is not a legitimate law

enforcement practice. Joey was going off completely half-cocked. As complaints rolled in, Houston police handled the original investigation and then handed it off to the FBI for federal civil rights charges. The FBI arrested him on 20 counts of federal felonies. Since the arrest and publicity, more victims have come forth, so it's anybody's guess where this goes. Joey is almost certain to plead guilty, and he could be looking at over 10 years in federal prison, once sentenced. Let me know what you think Joey's punishment should be, and then follow me for daily crime stories.

God damn. That's so bad. I wonder if I Google Joey Houston oral. Nope. Oh, I'm a type in news. Oh, got it. For number one hit. Joey Houston Oral. God, that is just wild.

That this this just happened. Dude, that I just can't. I just want I just want to hear the conversation. One of the men told police Ellis threatened to take him to jail unless he stripped naked confessed to the crime. He didn't commit, and paid him $300. The man said he didn't have that much money, but gave Ellie 20 in cash and another 200 through cash app. Prosecutors said Ellis also told victims he needed to help lure other men to the park through gay dating apps. Oh shit! So he wasn't just an opportunist, he was setting them up to come there, have s- Wow. Holy shit dude. Hey, I don't mean to be um, like, I don't mean to be-

I would never guess Joey Ellis was forcing dudes to suck his dick. No, as soon as- My go ahead as soon as you told me about the story I didn't even look it up hadn't even seen hadn't heard about it. Nothing white guy oh It's such a white dude crime. I know. Yep. He's fucking up the whole thing. Yep God up the whole thing. Yep. God. I realized Ellis was arrested again and in court Monday after being accused of violating his initial bond. You can make someone suck your dick and get out on bond? I guess that's innocent until proven guilty I guess

I don't because it definitely wasn't consensual well no I mean as soon as you see oh he denies the allegations oh okay he's good Oh, and it's a hate crime because this is such this is such bullshit Ellis is facing enhanced sexual assault charges in a hate crime because prosecutors believe he targeted men because of their sexual preferences That doesn't even make sense That doesn't even make sense. He targeted them because they had mouths. Hey, if some dude forced me to suck his dick, I'd bite it off.

Yeah, I guess by the time he puts his dick in your mouth, he's got a gun to your head too. Well, yeah, isn't that the thing? The reason why they all did it was because he was Because he had a weapon on him. Also, how are you a city park guy and you carry a weapon? How is that job? Like require you to carry a weapon You're a park ranger in a city The judge said his bond at seventy five thousand for oh, so he had already fucked

He had his original bomb was thirty. He got arrested again The judge said his bond at 75,000 for, oh, so he had already fucked, he had, his original bond was 30, he got arrested again. And then they said another one at 75,000 and 60,000 on the two official oppression charges. What's the oppression forcing a dick into another guy's mouth? Yeah, that would be like, I think the way I see that is you're a police officer enforcing like unlawful unlawful things, I guess.

Oh, shit, dude. He was going there when he wasn't even on duty. He would just suit up. Go there. Oh, my God, that's what you do on your free time. You're fucked up You are fucked up Mr. Ellis is an upstanding citizen never been in trouble in his life and he strongly contest these charges Hey, I wonder what his defense is going to be. Is his defense to be like, no, dude, I was there meeting these guys.

Like is he going to is he going to like say it was consensual? Like how are you going to pull out of that? Yeah, I would imagine his argument is going to be like, well, they they did it. They agreed to suck my dick in public on a park bench oh he was threatening to arrest them he's not even a cop what oh could he get could he get picked up for false imprisonment too that would be crazy or kidnapping Yeah, maybe by blocking their car in uh, there were eight different 20 charges with eight different dudes He offered the victims a way out on some occasions occasions he would allegedly demand money on others he would allegedly assault his

Victim and at times would force them to perform sexual acts such as going, groping one victim, forcing another to strip naked, sexually assaulting another by forcing them to perform oral sex, groping him? You groped another dude? How do you grope a guy? I need to see that. What do you mean like what how do you isn't groping like just fondling like you have to reach over and fondle someone's titties that's groping him or grabbing some chicks ass isn't that groping yeah it's the same both ways I guess it's like it's like when Susie got groped at the weight stand without a chick that's groping what weight stand like when he

was a waiter oh yeah yeah yeah. Yeah. Yeah grabbing the fucking nuts Yeah, that's that would be groping you grab his dick seven Holy shit. I just can't see groping a dude That's cuz you're not gay I guess what the fuck What the fuck? Anyway, all right. So there's that story. Houston, that guy's just fucking up all the stereotypes. Big time.

What is this? Oh, oh, this is interesting. Going Rogue with Sevon posted this on their Instagram the other day. This is the clip that the New York Times wrote about calling me... What do you call me, David? The creepiest man in CrossFit this is the clip and she the lady who runs this Instagram account I think it's a lady put this clip up the other day and what's funny is we just talked about this

today with Erica Fullo too here it is this is the one too so New York Times wrote a little blurb about what a scumbag I am because of this conversation here. And then Eric Rosa said that I should be fired or I should resign because the New York Times wrote that. A most toxic man in CrossFit. Yeah. I think David Weed has like another one. Creepiest.

Something. You got some other word. Here we go. So, your body needed a break. My body some other word. Here we go. So your body needed a break. My body needed a break. I needed to focus on the business. And kids. And kids. When you are in these eight years, is all your female biology the same? Are you still having your menses?

You're still regular? Yeah. You could have gotten pregnant the whole time. Yeah. And you just don't? Mm-hmm. What birth control do you use? Psyclessa. Is that, that's a pill? Yeah, it's a pill. You're okay with the pill? Yeah.

Yeah. Although the girls tell me now they're like, oh, if you would have gotten off of it, I'm sure you would have PR'd left and right. There's a few of them that got off of it and their numbers are just skyrocketing, which I found very interesting. Is there a biology? I have no idea but I'm like well shit maybe I should make that a study but I'm I put I put my shoes down it was time yeah I said goodbye. Cycleska how old were you there I don't know 42. All right.

I feel like I just need to get through some of these notes. I don't know what this one is. I hope this is appropriate. I would hate to show you guys something inappropriate. How do you ask man that same question? Are you on steroids? Basically Ron DeSantis tried to take away Disney World's rights of self governance, since they're pushing all the child grooming stuff lately. And Disney World came back and was like, uh uh uh not so fast, we only answer to the crown. And this is just almost hilarious if you know what's going on because

they would never ever admit this unless they were forced to in a situation like this. But they basically admitted like you don't have jurisdiction over us because we're owned by Britain. So for those of you who are confused by this, apparently the land that Disney World is on is owned by the Crown. And so since like 1960, Disney World has basically been a tax-free sovereign district

exempt from taxes and anything to do with federal statutes. And they basically claim to just be like an apolitical charity. Disney does a lot of charity work so that they can be tax exempt. Then they started pushing all this woke stuff. And so Ron DeSantis was like, all right, guys, you want to get involved in politics?

Then let's do politics. We're going to take away your tax exempt status in Florida. But then Disney World came back and pulled out this clause from the British Bill of Rights, which is a royal clause that dates back to like 1692. And it says that essentially Britain has sovereignty over any territory of the crown until the last descendant of King Charles III has passed. And if you saw this, this is a crazy story. I actually spent about an hour looking into it. It's even crazy. It gets crazier and crazier.

Yeah, the music is annoying. I agree. What the fuck? There was something else where that land that Disneyland is on. It's in a town and the town only has like 26 people in it. And basically those and since Disneyland owns all the land there They say who those 26 people are and so then they they make those people like the City Council the mayor all that shit So that they can control everything all the laws there. It's a wild story. But last I heard I haven't looked into this in a

Couple months, but they were talking about blocking all the roads into Disneyland, somehow changing it, making it because he's like, well, okay, if you're not going to cooperate, then we're going to do something to the road network that takes you into Disneyland in and out of Disneyland. But I can't remember exactly what they were going to do. Make put a crazy toll road or, you know, some like that. Yeah. Oh, that's so weird. Hi, Melissa. Melissa. Oh dear.. Yeah. Oh, that's so weird. Hi, Melissa.

Melissa Odier. Odier. Odier. Hi, Sevan. Caleb. The Kill Taylor show was great. James continues to surprise me. James was savage.

That was sick. Savage. All right. That makes me feel better that I got through a bunch of old notes. Shit, three hours hmm Oh shit here come my kids all right talk to you guys later bye Alright talk to you guys later bye All right, two minutes you're lucky I was just about to get Hell yeah, i've been on here for three hours. I gotta take him

I'll take I'll cover the show you will while i'm taking a pee Sure, but I have no idea what to do. I don't have to do anything. I'll hang out with you for a minute. Guess who's here today with me? Who? No. Cbeaver. Wait, I thought you said Caleb? Yeah, I call him Cbeaver. His last name is Beaver. First name Caleb, so I call him Cbeaver. What's up Lil One? Hi.

Tell me about your workout yesterday. We did it at night time? Yeah. What did we do for the first 10 minutes? Burpees. How many burpees on the first minute? Two. How many on the second minute? Four. How many on the third minute? the 20. Oh shit. Did you wear weight? Yeah. Yeah. On the minute for 10 minutes is brew. Basically, it's 18, 19 and 20. You just go with a four pound weight vest. And what did we do for the second 10 minutes on the minute? We did. I did

We did I did Five thrusters five thrusters 15 pounds and Three pull-ups. Yeah with a weight vest 20 minutes of just getting at it and then afterwards what happened? I cried. Yeah Really that was awesome. He goes, he comes over to me, fries in my arms. I take the waist vest off him like, can I have a steak? I said, yeah.

You know, that's awesome. It was so great. That's not the hardest workout I ever done. The hardest was a 200 burpees jumping over that box the yeah you did that in 20 minutes take away the box 200 burpees take away the box that would probably be 15 minutes yeah about 15 minutes in your butt and your hammies were so blown up last night it was crazy I was squeezing your hamstrings I couldn't believe how much blood in them I thought I was gonna pop that was nuts I like him when I like feeling them like that when they're all blown up like that

like feeling your traps and your hammies and your quads they get all crazy I could like feel the blood in there maybe I'm not. So what's up with the dog? When do you think the dog goes to sleep? How's the dog doing this morning? She's not panting but she's still blind and in a lot of pain. Why do you think she's in pain? Well she's going through cancer right now. I know but what signs do you see?

If she's not panting why do you think she's in pain? What signs do you see? Well you think she's in pain? What signs do you see? Well mom says she's in pain, but Maybe mom's just telling you that so you won't feel bad when we put her down No, you would say that though What do you think you think we should put her down? I mean... That's a tough decision for a six-year-old boy. How old are you? Eight.

Oh, eight. I don't know. When you think about putting her down, do you think about what you want or what the dog would want? It's just, mom said she's in pain. She just can't, well, she said she just can't live like that much longer much longer right just gonna get worse and worse and just she's gonna get a point where she she's she's probably gonna live a little longer, but There's probably gonna there's probably gonna get to a point where she can't walk So

Mom thought about putting her down, but I don't want to. I mean, I want to go to Arizona, but I want to go to Arizona too. Don't you have to? Yeah, I'm going to go regardless. I just, here's the thing too. We should be with her when she dies, right? Hold her cry Drag her out to the backyard. Do you feel like you're gonna cry talking about it? Yeah, it's okay to cry Okay, I think I'm a little better. I hear your voice is cracking. You want to hear something weird? You're crying because the dog might die, but I'm kind of crying because I'm so happy to see you like so full of emotion. I like to see it. Makes me happy. Makes me emotional. Hey, would you get another dog?

I'm not getting a cute dog. It's like I don't want it to be. I want it to be suffering like machine call though. If we get an ugly dog, it won't matter if it dies. the the the the the the the I can't stand Kalo's suffering and I can't stand Meshie dead.

Yeah. When I see videos of him it's so much. Loss is crazy. Loss is a trip, right? Mmhmm. Would you trade one of the stripes on your belt to have callow back? Both of them? Yeah, or would you go back to a white belt if you could have callow back?

The belts don't really matter. Oh yes, definitely. I would take gold every single time. Well yes, I would go back to a white belt to bring callow back. Alright, anything else you want to a white belt to bring call me All right, anything else you want to say that was good I like that So the belts don't really matter Once you're like a great night kind of Matt they kind of matter to you, but doesn't really matter I'm sure when when you're right all you all you want is stripes stripes

Once you get your no belt all you want is stripes. Hmm Once your dog dies all you want is stripes, stripes. Once you get your new belt, all you want is stripes. Hmm. Once your dog dies, all you want is a new dog? No. Yes? Two reasons. There's one. Okay, there's, I want a new dog,

but the other thing, I don't wanna have to take care of it. I just wanna chill. Yeah, well make mom take care of it. No, you have to take care of it. All you do is sit around and watch us do nothing. Wow, dude. That's crazy. All you do is take us to pretend in your arms and get up. Actually, you should go to pretend.

Anyway, all you do is go to pretend in your arms, get up, bloody Mary, give us a hug, and we take us to pretend your arms and get up actually should go to pretend Anyway, all you do is go to pretend your arms get a Bloody Mary. Give us a little tree or pancake or something and Just sit around Looking at the news Holy shit, dude Chill dude. There was this there's this place right at the beach this Like dive English. I love bar restaurant. It's right on the beach and I was taking the boys

They're on the rag in the morning. Yeah, just get my swerve on after the podcast They can that I can just sit there. They run out onto the beach Buy him a box of crackers to feed the seagulls I survived dude that's so chill dude it's such a good life I'm training hard though now I'm not drinking you aren't no I'm training hard can't you tell look at me look how much younger I look

have you noticed how big all my muscles are getting in shit look at this shave the shave the middle of your beard look at this big probably feeling is not bad though I'm getting yoke dude your your muscles fall about six inches you think I'm less tubby than I was a month ago firm up a little bit when you hug me do I feel a little firmer?

You can be honest, no? Stand up! Okay, yeah you look better. You were a little tubby last night but now you look way better. And then when you take your shirt off and go to bed. It's like jiggly jiggly. But when you get up in the morning, it's just not jiggly at all. Yeah. Yeah. Drop a do some fucking tight. And then when you and then when in the night, you're just jiggly jiggly mess.

Yeah, but you're still strong. All right. Still strong. I'm strong. that's right ummm alright if, if, if, uh, like five buff men were around you I would call you a little

hahahaha like when hillar's around I turn into a little pussy yeah people just start looking at you what's he doing in there it's all relative. Oh Man it's already starting I should have never mentioned I was reading the chosen All the all my all the Bible beaters are gonna

Gordon save her Jesus Christ into your life. You will be redeemed He already did it twice. Yes, we're gonna go to pretend on state and I bet you oh You still owe me five bucks. You didn't come down there We met a bit last night Joseph was mad at me and I would go watch this re I bet she's gonna climb in the bed with me. He won't be able to stay mad at me. You're right. He never came and climbed in the bed with me. Well, I tried to guilt him. Damn.

Damn. All right. Well, let's go. Let's go. We'll go ride one wheels now. Yeah. Oh, one wheel, sir. We'll go ride one. I'll pay. I don't have five dollars. Oh, you know what? Maybe I do have five dollars on it. Let's go. We'll go ride one. I'll pay. I don't have $5. Oh, maybe I do have $5 on it.

Let's go. We'll go ride one wheels. We'll go to Britannia Arms. Uh, that's in Capitola. I know we can ride one wheels there. It's fine. There won't be anyone there. It's too cold.

Okay. We just ride around the, um, just right around, uh, the town. We'll just ride around the town. I'll just walk and you can look at my phone Well, you guys right? I think you should be looking up not down good advice All right Thank you everyone. Caleb. Thank you All right, thank you

Five seconds always gonna come in here and you're gonna have to do another five minutes if any kids come in here I'm just gonna make him cry. I'm just gonna bring up the dead dog. Oh It's not dead dying. Oh that dead dog. What's tonight's tonight Friday? Nice Sunday. I think I'm on meaning Christmas Eve. Okay All right, see you guys tomorrow That's all we have Superman Ari man seven man Oh, okay. All right, see you guys tomorrow. That's all we have. Superman, Ari-Man, Savon-Man, bye-bye.