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Episode Date: September 24, 2024

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I don't know what this is, but we'll just get rid of it. That's fine. What's up? Got Dick Butter. What's up, dude? Kenneth DeLapp, Real Kevin, Slater. What's going on, guys? Hey.

Yeah. Happy Friday. Happy Friday. Happy freaking Friday. Going to freaking crash. We are. I'm so excited. So you're welcome. If anybody else is is headed to crash, look us up. We want to get like a t shirt shine but signed by the whole the whole seven podcast family. So yeah, let's do that. Excited to see excited to see everybody. Barry. Yeah, we're always early. I don't know. Just pre show chat. That's what we did last time. So yeah, going to crash. Super excited. The baby's super excited. Wants to get all of his cards signed by everybody. Yep. And yeah, he's looking forward to it.

So we're gonna get to go there. And then what else do we see? What's what's up? Oh, Pat Lang. Hey, what's up, dude? The only people more boring than Tyler and Pager are these two. I'm sorry, dude. It's all right.

Well, glad you're here. Yeah, I mean, I'm here to hang out with us. Jody Lynn. What's up? Greg C. It's good to see you guys. Yeah. So... Jodi, hi.

Love Jodi. Uh, Shannon Sharp video. Oh, jeez. Anybody? Like, how does that even happen? I don't know. That's what I was thinking about. Like, he had to have been on Instagram.

Can you accidentally go live? I don't think so. I really don't think that you can. So that's why I think that people are questioning, like, was it on purpose? Was it not on purpose? You know what I mean? Because even if you're on Instagram and you toss, you know what I mean?

You toss your phone down. It's not, I don't see how it could have gotten on live. I've tried to go live on my phone before without you being around and I couldn't figure it out at all. Yeah. There's so many steps to get there. So it's almost like that's why people are thinking that I was more of a conspiracy than anything else or that I was not a conspiracy, but like it was planned. I think yeah, I think he did it because of all the rumors going around

that he's a little zesty because he wore that green outfit off a plane with a purse. And then everybody started saying that he's gay. And so, I don't know. Yeah, I think he did it just to prove his manhood. And, yeah, uncle went to pound town. Yeah. And he was like, it was so like, you know what I mean? Like it was so loud and so much and I was like, ooh, okay, well, lucky lady putting a lot of effort in there. Like he's, he's going for it. But the fact that he said that someone hacked his phone. I know.

And then very quickly took that back. Just makes me think that it was completely planned. It was completely thought out. It wasn't something that just accidentally happened. It was so weird. But whatever. I just I thought it was funny as hell. I listened to it a couple times.

Trish back shots only. Well, he's a big dude. I mean, that dude is humongous. I don't know who he was doing that to, but I hope she was at least 5'10". Because if she's 5'5", she's in trouble. Speaking of a really, really big guy, did you see the pictures of Shaq with a woman that like barely came up to his chest and people are saying that, um, that that might be his new girlfriend.

Yeah, but there was a bunch of different girls in that photo. Like it was, it wasn't the same girl every time. Oh, I only saw the one of the girl that literally like barely came up to his rib cage. Like she was so little. They all were. They all were like five, five. And I think even his ex wife who pushed out all his babies, she's not very big either.

She's like five, six, five, seven. Do we figure out who on scroll was in that video? No, no, no, I haven't seen it. Believe me, I went I tried to find out, but I haven't seen it anywhere because I wanted to know who was who was getting it like that to. Mm hmm. Who's going to handle the unhinged rant today? We don't usually go unhinged but maybe Colleen every once in a while when Colleen gets feisty she'll she'll go unhinged. Shannon Sharp cringe. I loved Unk until and I don't know until he started getting all pissed

at comedians and yelling at like you can't get mad at comedians. Yeah, it's Oh, thank goodness. He's here. He'll make sure nothing gets unhinged. Oh Hey jake, I had a one of the listeners, uh dm me and he said that you were right That or she said that you're right that Uh a banana and a hog actually weigh very close to the same thing and then sent me the picture of the banana not the hog. I was very appreciative of that so you were right dude. Diddy want to handle that one because that came out. That's tough. I don't mind the thousand bottles of baby oil.

Yes but found out today when I opened up my Instagram that they allegedly found seven hundred and eighty four dildos in his house. Seven hundred and eighty four. Are you is is a freak off that because that's the name of the party, right? It's a freak off. Yeah, that we've heard. Yeah. Is a freak off actually have seven hundred and eighty five people involved in one freak off? like is everybody cuz that's a lot. I Don't I don't know I Have that that many people And you're assuming half of those are men, right? So they obviously have the tool necessary. You don't need a fake tool

I Don't I don't know. I don't know. That's a bit much. 780? Yeah. Okay. I mean, we've heard that these parties are huge. Like there's tons of people there. And also too, his homes are big enough to where he could house that many. Or you know what I mean? Definitely have a party with that many people.

You know, kind of, um, what Ken said, what's up Ken? Um, Ken Walters that in a very disturbing way, like, or are they trophies? Ooh. You know what I mean? So I can maybe. Hmm. You know what I mean? So I can maybe. That's a very good question. That's a very good question. But the one thing that we kept talking about is that can you imagine having that job? First off, you have to count the thousand bottles of baby oil, but then you have to go back and literally count the

seven hundred and eighty four dildos and yeah, who's the account for all of them? Like and then put them in individual bags, seal them up, put them into a box. Like can you imagine that being your job? And then a friend. Oh God, vindicate everyone that his parties are airtight. Fair. Good God. Baby oil stock going up.

Barry McOchener. Oh, Brady, this is a they're all party favors. Everyone leaves with a bottle of oil and a dildo. So what you're saying is that maybe they were planning for an upcoming party? Well then a good friend of ours definitely asked if like, were the bottles sticky? And I was like, gross. Oh, I don't want to know. Yep. So whoever that poor person was that has to like, categorize all these things and mark

them off or whatever. I don't you're going to have to pay me extra for that. Like over time. Over time. That's not going to be taxed. Exactly. It's reelected. It will not be taxed. So write that down for now. I lost the comment. The someone asked about the Oprah and the VP. When Kamala went, I guess she was online with, it was at Oprah? I wasn't even sure.

I just saw- I haven't heard anything about this. So this is news to me. But I guess she, I saw it briefly. I guess she was answering a question and it was like word salad. It just, I think they asked how they were gonna lower the cost of living or how she was gonna lower

what the plan was to lower the cost of living or something like that. It was just a mess. She really did not handle that shit well. Oh, wait. It was like an interview? I might have seen- I think it was like an online town hall where there were a bunch of people on Zoom kind of thing.

Oh, and somebody else asked the question. Yeah. Was it a couple? I think it was just one woman asked and she was just sitting there answering everybody's questions. Okay, because I think I saw, I think I saw something similar where a couple asked, I think the same question. Oh, VP is going to shoot anyone coming into her house. is going to shoot anyone coming into her house. Damn, no, I definitely didn't see that. Um, and asking.

Olivia, it was a couple asking. Yeah, because if it was the couple asking, then I did see that. Oh, I mean, I saw a different one. And she wasn't able to really answer the question. There really was no. She she can't ever answer any question unless she's completely prepped for it. So she's a moron. Vindicate.

Yes, she is. So yeah, stick butter. You're right. I do not want. Yeah, I do not watch Oprah at all for any reason. All right. Diddy and his thousands of bottles of baby oil. I still don't think that that's like,

can you really, is that, that can't be a crime to have a thousand bottles of baby oil and 785 dildos, right? I mean, it's definitely the video of him beating up What's-Her-Face is definitely a crime. Like he needs to go to jail for that. I don't know if it can necessarily be a crime, but it's definitely going to open. Pause.

A lot of questions. I don't know if in this particular situation with what he is being accused of, I don't think this is a good look for. Yeah, I know it's just evidence. I get that. It's just there better be videos of this freak off party. Because otherwise, but I'm assuming there is because what didn't I thought they said there were videos, but I'm not sure. I think there was something that was information that was released that there were cameras everywhere. you know? Yeah, see are not a crime, but kind of.

That's what I was thinking too. Damn, some of his songs then are that too. Oh, did you see the one of was it Nas? It was one of the old videos where, or is it Mace? It might have been Mace and Mace was dancing and singing to the camera and Diddy was behind him and most people originally thought he was just looking at the floor, but it kind of looks like he was looking at his ass. So now there's questions about like, what was Diddy actually looking at? Well that's the one where he put his hand on Mike Tyson's leg was it yeah oh yeah no 50 cent he

put his hand on 50 cents die no Tyson wasn't he getting close to Tyson to there was one with that but yeah maybe it what maybe I'm not sure but yeah and then homie was like nah bro I'll get off me like get out of here mm-hmm Mesa speaking to my era. Everybody loves Mace. You cannot like Mace. Yeah. And then yeah, so well, good luck Diddy. And I know he tried to get bail, but he didn't. They want it. He wanted 50 million to be able to pay 50 million and get out. And they were like, nah. So he's stuck in a rat trap right now, where he belongs as far as I'm concerned about it.

Then the other thing is I think we all saw the, or at least I think we all saw the Charlie Kirk video on Jubilee with the, they had like 20 liberal college. 23, 25. Liberal college kids just sitting, coming in. It was like a what speed chest kind of thing where they would, they had 15 minutes for one topic or 18 minutes for one topic. And the one that I guess is going around the most is the one about abortion, right? Because the girl went in, went nuts and started talking about,

what if you're raped? What if there's sexual assault, incest, whatever. And that, of course, that's horrible. But that seems to be what now the left is using to to make Roe v Wade come back or whatever it is. And that's their only argument for it. And it's when only argument for it. And it's, when you dive into it, it's so difficult, right? We're coming at it from a place where we actually could get pregnant.

You've been pregnant. We've both had sexual assaults in our past. And to think about it, my immediate reaction is like, no, if she doesn't want the baby, just, you know, then she doesn't have to have the baby. That's a complete violation. She didn't want that.

She didn't ask for it. What not? Kenneth, youth is the future. The future is back. The bleak, yeah. And the other thing that struck me too is they all just yell. They just yelled at him.

They went in there looking to fight with him instead of looking to have an actual conversation and kind of understand where he was coming from with that. That's the thing that kills me about it. Yeah. Just, you know, If you want to have a conversation and you want and you have, you know have thoughts on something and want to bring up a point, I think it's helpful to actually do your research on that. What I saw the most is not only are they yelling at him to try to get their point across, when

he would ask a follow-up question to have a continued conversation about the point that they're trying to make, they weren't able to respond to that next conversation. You know what I mean? And the fact that Charlie was, I guess, able to have a continued conversation, but I also felt like in a way, he maybe in some ways wasn't willing to have a conversation with them and wanted to just have has like, it's his point. And it's his facts. And that's the only thing that matters. And I don't think

it really was necessarily a conversation. I think it was just facts versus emotion. Yeah, that's what I got out of it. It was it was all facts versus all emotion. Pat Lang Charlie Kirk is legit retarded and the kids asking him questions were equally. It's a recipe for disaster. It was I had to turn it on and off a couple times to be able to watch the whole thing. I did watch the whole thing but I had to turn it on and off a couple of times to be able to watch the whole thing. I did watch the whole thing, but I had to be able to turn it on and off a little bit.

I was like, Ooh, this is, this is uncomfortable. So it's hard to, I mean, we've said this before. It's hard to listen if you're only going to yell at me. If you, if you want to have a conversation, I'm going to be more willing to listen if you're only going to yell at me. If you want to have a conversation, I'm going to be more willing to listen. But when it gets to that point of, I'm going to just yell at you to get my point across, you know what I mean?

And I said this too, that like, if you're going to have a conversation, you have to let the other person talk. You can't just be disruptive. You can't just be, you have to let the other person talk. You can't just be disruptive. You can't just be, you know, because I agree with with some of the students too, is that Charlie kept interrupting them too. And then he would get mad when they would interrupt him. And I think that I think putting a timestamp on specific topics that are so complex is very much that recipe for disaster like Pat was saying because

These aren't five-minute conversations. These aren't ten-minute debates This isn't we're not going to be able to have a conversation for 20 minutes and then everything is going to change Because this one's gonna make want to make sure that this fact gets put out first Deja Kirk is not going to be convinced and he has concrete stance. The opposing views have an emotional reaction and our accusatory Charlie just wants to shut them down. It's not a debate. Yeah, I can totally see that too. I think when you go into a conversation like that, trying to change somebody's mind about what they think is, I don't think you can try to change their mind, right? If you just talk to them and they happen to change

their mind, you know, kind of like when I was back in the whole super liberal, whatever, and I just listened to Sevan talk over and over and over and over and over again, I took, you know, six months of me listening to his political shows to actually be like, Oh, I should probably go look that up. Oh, I should think about that a little bit more. Oh, maybe understand where he's coming from with this kind of stuff. Right. But if people aren't willing to do that, then it's just you trying to fight each other to change each other's minds is, is insane. Um, but the, the one thing I wanted to talk about as far as abortion and sexual assault, normally after you had some sort of sexual trauma like that, you want to get away from and you want

to get rid of everything that reminds you of it. That's very normal for people to do. And I know it's hard to hear, but that can include the baby sometimes. And so I get it, like, yes, is abortion absolutely killing a baby? Yes, it is. You're killing a baby, you're killing a life. But at the same time, too, the life of the woman that was just seriously traumatized, she's not making any rational decisions right now

all she's thinking about is self preservation. How do I get through this? How do I move past this? And it's, you want it immediately. You don't realize that it takes years and years and sometimes you just don't get over it, right? So I think that that's part of it when it comes into thinking about how a woman in that situation might react. Because it's not...

Trauma doesn't stop. The trauma doesn't stop because the physical trauma has ended. Yeah. Like it is, it's continued trauma, whether it results in an unwanted pregnancy, it continues if you choose to have a baby, forced to have a baby, choose not to have a baby, there's no support after it. There's no conversations after it. And I think that the conversation is that if you make the choice to, like you said, end the pregnancy, it's the thought that it's going to make everything

go away. Yeah. It's going to make everything feel better. It's going to, you're going to be able to start over again, I guess, for a lack of better words. Yeah, that's what you want. That's what you want to have happen. And you're going to do everything as quickly as possible to make that, to get as far away from what happened to you as possible.

Mm-hmm. And that's just your initial, no one's... Most women aren't jumping into counseling immediately. And if, you know, you are pregnant and you find out you are pregnant and you're in that heightened, emotional, scared, scarred state, you want that pregnancy out of you as quickly as possible, because you don't want to have any sort of reminder of what just happened to you.

No, it's not the, you know, the greatest thing, but that's the initial reaction that happened. Uh, Pat Lang, what's up, dude? Abortion is so simple. If you ask me, okay, cool. Up to 20 weeks, leave it legal. After that, make them have it. The baby can't survive until 23 weeks at the earliest.

Win-win. Uh, the make them have it part, I think is what would probably turn people off to that. Because again, it's that trigger phrase of make the women do that. You know what I mean? It's I'm, you could be right. I don't know. Maybe that is the solution, but it's just, it's always going to be the wording of it that triggers people to this topic.

So, um, yeah, because I don't, I don't think it's that simple. Yeah. I don't, I actually don't think that abortion is that simple. I think it's got a lot of different steps. It has a lot of different layers, I guess you could say. And I think the most important thing, and this is something that we've talked about Before is that I just don't think that there's enough Places that are talking about it. There's not enough counseling. There's not enough therapy. It's just okay Let's and let's do this quickly. Let's let's get to this new beginning quickly. Let's figure this out quickly let's eliminate the trauma and move on from it quickly and I don't think that there is a

quick way to Not to navigate I don't think there's a quick way to navigate Take and you can you can take me me for example I when it happened to me as soon as I graduated high school, I ran away from this town as quickly as I possibly could go. I tried everything to stay out of this town. 30 years later, now I'm back, I'm okay. There's nothing walking around this town.

It reminds me of all you know, all the good childhood memories that I have and all the people that, you know, all my friends that I had and all the sports that I played. And, and there's, I love taking my kid to the playground that I used to play at when I was a kid. And, but that, you got, that took 30 years. If you had asked me to make decisions in those first couple years afterwards, I was not okay yet. Like I just, I wasn't okay. And even thinking that I was okay when I got out of high school, I still wasn't okay.

I still had crap I had to deal with in my twenties and stuff. So it's Shawn Lunderman, she's 48 now. No, her math was not. I just, I rounded off. I'm 43. So um, but yeah, it's it takes time to get through all that. And if you're going to decide whether you're going to have a baby as the result of sexual trauma in the first nine months, you know, like you have to decide whether you're going to have this kid or not have it very quickly afterwards.

And to ask a woman to do that, in my opinion, that's a lot. And there are some women that probably can handle that. Maybe. But you're asking a lot. That's why I'm adamant that it cannot be a blanket statement. It really is. It's really am I feel, and this is just my opinion, I feel like it's very important to have

steps that are individualized to the situation that's going on. Yeah, because I just think that everybody is different. Everybody's experience is different. You know, for me, I have had different types of trauma and assault that I've had to navigate in different parts of my life. And for me, some people tend to go one way where they completely become introverted and close off. And for me, I kind of went the other way where I was trying to be in complete control of everything and try to take back my control. And with that, I put myself in a lot of very unsafe situations and I put myself around

some very unsafe people and I had scares, you know, and thankfully for me at that time, it never resulted in a pregnancy, an unwanted pregnancy, but it could have. And having carried my son, our son, now thinking about if I had gotten pregnant, would I have kept that baby since carrying our son? I would say yes, because I know what that feels like. And I know that when being when you and I got together and how much I wanted to have a family with you and how much I wanted to have a baby and then how it took so long for us to have a baby and we struggled and got to a point where

we were okay with not having one because I was having a very difficult time getting pregnant, but then getting pregnant and having our son, I can't imagine ending a pregnancy. You know what I mean? But if you asked me in that situation of where I was years, years ago, there was a situation where I thought I was pregnant from a guy that wasn't a really good guy. Where in that moment, I had decided that if I was pregnant, I wasn't going to keep the baby. And I said this, and I said this to the guy too. I mean, this was after I found pregnant, I wasn't going to keep the baby. And I said this, and I said this to the guy too. I mean, this was after I found out that I wasn't, but I think that every situation is different.

And I don't think that we're giving women the opportunity to have the support in their individualized situation. of the support in their individualized situation. And I think that hearing the stories of, we saw the Rio where a woman called a facility and asked, just questions, she wasn't actually pregnant, she was just getting information at 34 weeks. I remember what that felt like being pregnant at 34 weeks. And I remember the pictures, the ultrasounds that we had of 34 weeks. And I can't imagine. Yeah, I can't imagine killing my kid. But also to that's my personal feeling.

And if we're not willing, if we're just there to tell people what to do, and if we're here just to tell people that they have to do it this way, because this is how I think this is what I believe this is how my values are my morals are my my beliefs are my religion is my faith is what I mean and fill in the blank, whatever you want to fill it in. I think that by doing that, you're not actually giving the woman the opportunity to deal with what has happened. Yeah, that's what Pat Lang, I, Pat Lang says, I get why you think that but 20 weeks is a long time to decide if you can't decide, have the baby and the state will take, or someone

will adopt. I get why you say that. I can understand that with someone that wasn't raped. Like if that is not a 20 weeks is not a long enough amount of time for someone that was traumatized like that. Like it just there's you women also compartmentalize those things. They pretend like it didn't happen. And one of the ways that they pretend like it didn't happen is by getting rid of the baby and having an abortion if she is pregnant. Like Judy or yeah, Judy Reid, I know, I, I get it adoption is great. And I feel like I also don't believe that abortion should be used as a form of birth control at all.

And I think if you... That is a great way to, you know, just adopt a baby. It sounds perfect in a little wrapped up bow, but for someone that is pregnant because of an assault, it's 20 weeks is not a long time at all. And like, it just isn't. I mean, I know you're gonna have to try to take my word for it or you don't have to take my word for it, but it's really not.

There are no, oh, you're getting mad now, dude. I'm not trying to make you mad. There are no abortions at 34 weeks. That wasn't what she was saying. Somebody made a reel and the woman like was seeing if she could get an abortion at 34 weeks and the abortion clinic said yes, it's a reel. It's out there. If it's true, if it's not true, that's not what she was saying. Calm down, dude. But yeah, it's

But I go but to go to Christine's point or whatever. Yeah, this I think that this is I think this is the bigger statement. And this is the bigger message is that there is no time on trauma. And I think that that's right. I think also too. Because it doesn't it doesn't stop. It doesn't stop when the physical trauma ends. It is decades. It's years for some people. ends. It is decades. It's years for some people. It's like any other form of PTSD. There are dreams you have you like, you go it trickles down into so many parts of your you hear of your life that happened to be on or you hear or you see the car or you whatever like you just stop and freeze. It's not it's not as black and white as that. So and that and, and that's, that's the thing. It just, you know, like what I was saying, you know, when people are sexually assaulted, some people hide from sex.

They remove themselves from sex. They want to get themselves away from it as much as possible. I went the other way because for me, my value was only surrounded by sex. I had no value to myself and I needed to learn that there were ways that I could feel worth first of all by myself and within myself versus it from somebody else that I felt like that was the only way that I was valued and so it's taken many years To be able to get to a point where I see my own value within myself, but it's can it's consistent conversation that's consistent therapy and work to

Change the narrative of the trauma that I went through and the thing is is that if you're not willing Excuse me if you're not willing to give That support is what I'm saying. It's more about support That That's more important I think that they need that support important. I think that they need that support. Magdalene, I'm firm in my beliefs unless I'm aggressively assaulted, then I can't promise I would feel the same. Yeah. That that's exactly it. You don't know. And to just say,

like, hey, you'll be a better human being by having you. Maybe you would. Maybe maybe having the baby would help you process things faster and get through things quicker. Sure. I'm not saying that's not possible. Also to that's not what you're that you're not after something like that happens. You're not trying to be a higher level human being. You're literally just trying to survive what just happened to you.

And and also to you have to give trying to survive what just happened to you. And also, too, you have to give grace to the parents and friends, right? Because the parents and friends are gonna wanna, they're gonna wanna help you in any way possible. They're hurting too, because you just got hurt. So if you want to go to the abortion clinic, they're gonna drive you there. Because they want you to get through it as quickly as you want to get through it. Right. So give a little grace to them too. Sure. They probably, you know, might have a different feeling and might try to talk them out of it or, but all you're trying to do is be supportive to the person that it happened to or to the woman that it happened to. Yeah. I think we all just, I think we all just want it to pretend like it didn't happen. Yeah. So, and I like this one.

This is, yep, I like this one. At the end of the day, I just can't put myself in a position to make the decision for another human. Not my place. I know how hard it is to raise a child even with my wife by my side. And that's my feeling when it comes to this blanket statement that you need to follow

what I say because it's my beliefs, it's my thing. I agree with you. I think that it's an individual situation. And I think that we can have these conversations, but at the end of the day, I don't have any right to tell anybody what they can do and how they should work through a trauma that they've been through. And I think that it comes down to that woman

as to what she feels like is the best thing to do. And my biggest argument about all of this is that they just need support. They need continued support with whatever decision they make. If they make a decision to keep it, if they make a decision to not, if they make a decision to give it up for adoption, if you know, whatever, whatever they choose, I just hope that they have the long term, the long term support to do the long term work to be able to navigate this trauma that they've been through. Yeah.

And also this, Sean Lenderman, you could possibly develop severe PPD and kill the baby postpartum depression. There's so many things that go into it. It's not just like you have the baby and then you're fine, or you don't have the baby and then you're fine. There's so many, there's so many things that can go into this.

And to like realize how we're taught as women when we're young too, we're taught this fairy tale thing that the first time we have sex, it's gonna be magical and he's gonna care and he's gonna love you and it's gonna be beautiful and you're gonna get married and have babies and whatever. And you're never taught that there's a possibility that that's not the way that it goes. You know what I mean? Whether your parents are trying to protect you, I'm sure mine were,

but like, you know, and then it doesn't happen and your whole little world that you were taught for so long, like breaks in half. But you didn't imagine having a baby without a husband or a man that loved you. You didn't imagine being pregnant by yourself, like breaks in half. But you didn't imagine having a baby without a husband or a man that loved you. You didn't imagine being pregnant by yourself. Like, you know what I mean? Like it just that kind of thing too. Somebody wanted to get back to oil and dildos oil and dildos as Papa Burtz shows himself. Hi, Papa Burtz. What's up? Trump leave it to the state, wants to leave it up to... I'm not mad at that. I don't think that that's a bad thing. You vote for the people that run your states, it's in the hands of the people. Isn't that what that means? That it's more in the hands

of the people than it is in the hands of the government. I'm not mad at that. Yep. What else? Was Pat Lang yelling at me again? No, he's yelling at Matt. Oh, okay. That's fine. You can get on that. That's cool. So yeah, that's kind of the big thing that's happening around. And if you want to get back to, I think I broke my friend in the deli yesterday. Uh, I've known him for a long time and he just happened to come in while I was reading the newspaper. I had it open to like Kamala and, and Trump or whatever. And he's like, we're Kamala, Kamala all the way, Kamala all the way. And I was like, no, dude, I'm not voting for her at all. And he

is like, well, you're not voting for Trump. Are you? And I was like, yeah, I am. And he lost his freaking mind on me. And it's very, oh my God, it's very interesting. I guess I'll say this. It's very interesting not being blinded by the extreme left and really just kind of sitting back and listening and you know what I mean? Like when you told me this, I was like, I'm sorry, what? Yeah, and I've known him forever. He's in his late sixties, early seventies. We've always had great conversations. I've known him forever.

And when I said no, and he's like, Trump's this, Trump's that, I was like, yeah, but he's not putting men and women's sports I was like, yeah, but he's not putting men and women's sports. So I'm good. And he is not, you know what I mean? I was like, that's I'm good. Yeah, that's all I needed to hear. But you're saying though, a lot of these conversations that you have with people that are very much leaning more left. I got into two of them on the same day. That's what I'm saying. You you'll make you'll make

you'll make points. Like they'll be having their moments and whatever, but you'll make points. And they're like, Oh, yeah, I agree with that. And you're like, okay. And they're like, Oh, I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And this and they do because I, you know, we're women, we're lesbians, I'm half black. Yeah. Ian says, I love when people talk to me like they assume they know who I'm voting for. Yeah. And so then when I say I'm not, then all of a sudden we can't have a conversation about

it anymore. Like we're all still friends. Everybody's still friendly. Mm hmm. But we were talking about this with Taylor, you can't say that you're voting for Trump. Because as soon as you say Trump, something clicks in their brain and they lose their mind. But if I say, I'm voting for this policy, no transing kids, no men and women's bathrooms,

then all of a sudden it's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. That's fine. I get why you're doing that. Right. Well, obviously your party doesn't support that. So I don't know. I just don't say his name anymore and then we seem to be fine. But it's just about having conversations and learning.

But I mean, the extremes. Yeah, that's a good one too. Christine Young, I'm voting for not another four years of crap economy, sure, yep. Thank you, I will a good one too. Christine Young, I'm voting for not another four years of crap economy. Sure. Yep. Thank you. I will use that one next.

Beast that we're to this point, Beast. I'm rooting for a meteor. Damn. Just end it all, huh? All right. All right. Well, didn't he also say that... Yeah, that's another one.

Hold on before you start this. Yeah. Yeah, Trish. I'm not voting for Trump. I'm voting anti-com. Yeah. Yeah. Well, didn't, didn't the same person when they, they missed his assassination attempt

the first time, didn't, didn't the same person say, like, if you're voting for him, you should be shot too? Wasn't it the same guy that was very extreme that way too? And it's like, wow, we're inciting violence on anybody and everybody that we don't agree with. I think that's the more telling part for me than anything else is that there were so many comments like dammit missed or you know we were so close and we were you really wish death on someone that says more about you bro like that okay what else did we have I saw something good AC ACR. This one. Oh, go ahead.

My father-in-law has an extreme reaction when Trump is said or seen and is so immature, drives the hubs and I nuts. I don't know just his freaking name or if you see a red hat. I'm kind of glad they changed the hats to blue. Like now the Trump hat is blue. So you can kind of like, but man, you see, I'm guilty of it too. I used to see those red Make America Great again, hats and I would lose my fucking mind over it. I would immediately just be like racist. It was just so quick to be like that. And it's like, no, no, they're not really racist. They just, you know, want a better economy and they're boys not to be girls. I get it.

Yon Clark, I'm wearing the Trump. Hey, Taylor, where is I'm good with it. I'm fine. Uh, chase, what's up, dude? There's a new black one. That is pretty sweet. Yeah. Anything but the red one, dude. Like you just can't wear the red one.

If it makes people nuts. Hey, you're going to crash chase. Hey, you're going to crash, chase. Any chance you're going to crash? Um, Kenneth, best thing to come out of the Trump attempt was Sprague's t-shirt. Yeah, that was, that was so funny. That was a fire t-shirt. Yeah. A lot of people have taken that t-shirt and, uh, I'm waiting for a vindicate, um, if he's going to make one and put Taylor's face on on it i was waiting for that one oh damn all right all right i tried maybe next time well we had we just had the trump rally on long island it was in nassau county i think uh i think jet went i think so yeah um and nothing

happened there and we were just assuming something was gonna happen but it's not didn't they say vindicate what happened and we were just assuming something was gonna happen. But it's not- Well, didn't they say? Okay. Vindicate. What happened? Didn't they say? And again, like we know we can talk about this stuff, but like we also are very aware that the media says things to get reactions from both sides. You know, there is news that's going around that there were

explosives found at the rally. And again, it's a, do you believe it? Sure. No. Is it possible? Yes. You know what I mean? Like, so that's why you kind of have to take what they're saying.

Yeah. With a grain of salt, they just did that with that poor Georgia mother that passed and they spun it into, you know, she died because there's no, you know, Roe v Wade got overturned and she, you know, she wasn't didn't have access to the right abortion clinic or whatever. And that wasn't the case at all. She was pregnant with twins. She took and she went and got a legal abortion. Like she took the first pill for the, I think they were, they were little, it was like 10 weeks or something like that. And she took the first pill, then she went home from the hospital. She took the second pill. And then all of

a sudden, like a day or so later, She just started vomiting blood and like she was a mess and she went she went to the hospital They put her on antibiotics or something like that. I think yeah, and then They were she had to get a DNC because she was going into sepsis It didn't it didn't because it was they were twins. It didn't flush out all Everything so she was getting septic and she died because the hospital didn't take her right into a DNC. They waited 20 hours later to get her a DNC. And then it just, like she was, she was already too far gone.

Her organs were gone, but the left is spinning that into, well, she died because there's no Roe v. Wade. No, that's not actually how, why she died and what to her. But of course, they're going to use that. You know what I mean? It's politics sucks. I just can't wait till this election is over and you're either going to people keep messing with me like, Oh, Gary, are you going to leave the freaking country if Kamala? No, we're not going to leave the country. It is what it is. You deal with it. It's going to be what it's going to be.

Whoever the president is, the president is. Like figure it out. Do the best we can. Thank you, Jake. Yeah, thanks Jake. I'm sure, oh, the banana fund. Yeah, to you. Anybody else want to weigh in on that?

There is a hog about, weigh about the same as a banana. I got a confirmation yesterday that it does. I was curious. Anybody, what do we got here? I'm just pulling stuff on now. Natalie Fleming, I don't have a problem with Trump, but I do wish he would take an extra second to think about his words. I think most people feel that the ideas are there, but the words are not. Yeah, he's always been that way. Right? He's always just tried to be as polarizing as he possibly can. And, and it worked for him. The first

go round, not so much the second go round. And now he's really subdued. Like, homie is really, now he's really like too much subdued almost. Like, come on, dude, we need those bars a little bit. Um, Oh, hi, Harley mom. Yeah. How are you? What's up?

Uh, Christine young. He's not a politician. That's why people like him. Yeah, I think so. It's the whole concept of he's going to go drain the swamp. Right. But I don't think anybody can actually drain the swamp. It, I think the swamps can actually drain the swamp. I think the swamps too big at this point.

Well, this is this is an important question that I think people need to know a banana or a plantain. Well, my original question was banana but if you if you want to liken it to a plantain I'm fine with that too. What else we got we did do a little bit on... But somebody did ask, Chase, are they streaming tier? Can we watch it live or is there no stream? I think someone asked about that. So if there is, let us know. I hate Taylor Swift, a geriatric old man. Oh, that Trump's yeah, didn't he tweet that or something like that? Ah, she's I don't know. I don't I don't like her.

I would never tweet out. I hate her. I don't hate her. But she's she's a mess. She's very much been like, we is it is it the date yet? Like when are they supposed to be breaking up? Aren't they supposed to be isn't their contract about to be up? I thought I think it's October was what it was supposed to be.

So we're, we're, we're just waiting the countdown to see if they see if they. That is, that is so funny to me. That's the weirdest thing. If they actually, if they actually do have a contract that says we're going to pretend to like each other, we're going to pretend to like each other. We're going to pretend to be engaged or want to take this to the next level. We're going to make all these appearances or whatever. Oh, but this is our end date. Yeah. So that's that's Christine, the 28th of September. Okay, we'll be on the look. We got a couple more days. Okay. About

a week. Jeffery Birchfield, are we not all a mess? Yeah, true facts. We are we are I know I definitely have a crazy people up in this place. And yes, it will be streamed. Chase confirmed. So okay, let's go watch that. That'll be cool. I just don't want to see her at football games anymore. I'm over it. I want to watch football. And every time she's at a football game, they just focus on her and I don't really care. I mean, she's she's fine. Whatever. Uh, what else? Cause otherwise I wanted to go over to that teacher that we were talking about with, um, Jake and Jan. Yeah.

Get some thoughts on that too. Uh, I'll bring it up again. Hold on. So there was, uh, this was, I don't know why this one was so big in the news, but it was her a little bit. So this teacher admitted to having sex with a 16 year old boy at high school and had kids serve as lookouts, which was weird. And I still don't understand that. I don't think we ever came to a conclusion the last time we talked about this. But I always just want to, when we were asking the boys, it was basically just like, how come

it is that when this happens to dudes, it's almost like dudes just high five and it's a right of a right of passage. Whereas for a girl, it's definitely not that. It's like super, it'll take forever for that for that girl to get over. But for a dude, it's just like, yeah, I banged an older chick. She was hot and and whatnot. And so I think we came to the consensus that it's just, it's the penetration part, right? That makes us all like, no. But for a boy, it's not that. Is that that's what we, that's what we got to. As a mother that...

I would still want to... Like I would want her locked up. And then the other thing is too, she's probably not going to be locked up for a long period of time. She probably is only going to get probation. I've been following it to see what it, but there's nothing up yet about what is going to happen to her.

So, and that's the, that's the difference, you know, because everyone is like, yeah, that's great. He's a stud. He's a legend, all this type of stuff. It's the wet dream all boys have. We never established if wet dreams were real either. Did dudes actually have wet dreams? Yann said no.

Yeah, because this was the big, Jake said it, but Yann is repeating it. Yeah, that's what we came to, but even for our son, we wouldn't be happy with the breach of trust and duty of care. Duty of care, that was it our son, we wouldn't be happy with the breach of trust and duty of care. Yeah, that's the, that's the, um, they are real. Okay.

Thank you. Appreciate you. That's the bigger thing is that you trust that we trust that schools, teachers, all of this type of stuff, like we want to believe that there is a trust and there's a duty of care for what is going on. But the culture and society is, is that like attaboy, like good job, you know what I mean? So.

Yeah, see this is, I'll admit really was hoping that would have been me with the high school health teacher when I was 16. But this is a good point too. But now as a father, he doesn't believe the same thing. So becoming a parent changes your perspective because for, yeah, for what you hear, I mean, we've talked, I mean, you talked to Jake andwn and we've asked our friend Jeff and other guys and Whatever and for them. It's like yeah, it's cool. It's whatever but as a

Parent if I heard that a teacher because to me It it doesn't This age of consent and like giving consent and giving permission and whatever there there's that argument that like we're giving consent, but do we actually know what that means? You know what I mean? So to think that my 16 year olds could give consent to an adult that knows what is actually going on. I don't think it's the same thing. Yeah. I just don't think it's the same thing.

It's so crazy that I for me to even think that our bodies are capable of getting pregnant at 14 or when you know what I mean? At that age to be that our bodies can't are you I feel like our bodies should know like, hey, we're not ready for this until like 1718 years old. And even then we're not ready. But at least they would like, you know what I'm saying? Like how does that biological? I guess we didn't live as long back then, but still damn you already mean the repercussions. Like we, again, we talk about consent. We talk about the act, but we don't actually talk about the consequences, positive or negative when it comes to the actions that we take. So, okay, cool. A guy might be like, yeah, I mean that,

I forget her name, is it Mary? Not Mary, what's the teacher that was with the student that had turned out? Yeah, Mary Kay, let's turn on. Mary Kay or whatever, like the boy was probably like, yeah, I'm in love and we all have that idea of what love is and consent is at that age. And so for him, I'm sure he was like, yeah, that's great.

Like, let's go, you know, but look at all of the consequences that he's going through now. Look at all of the, to go back to our conversation earlier, you know, like, how much therapy, how much does he have to go through and what's the trauma that he has to work through? And you know, that kind of stuff. So this idea of like, consent is a number, I think is always the thing for me that I'm

that I can't wrap my mind around because yeah, when I was. 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, I was giving consent. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying? Like I was giving consent. At some point you're, at some point you got it. You know what I mean? As parents, you're like, oh, let me just bubble wrap you till you're 30, but you can't do that.

Ooh, this one's good. Jeffrey Birchfield, that's why a college professor and student relationships are also frowned upon. So you have a college professor that's like in his 30s and a kid that you should say 18, 19 years old, that's a freshman, sophomore in college. Is that because it's a working, so there's no, I don't know,

you get an A if you sleep with me sort of thing? That's the reason why it's frowned upon, because a 30-year-old and an 18-year-old could legally get together. So is it just the, hey, you're going to pass a student just because you want a banger kind of thing? Cause that I get that. Mm hmm.

But then where, yeah. Um, Bernie Yannon, what's up, dude? It's more of the opposite. Our bodies tell us we are ready, but the law agreement by society tells us differently. Yeah, I remember girls in high school though having crushes on teachers that were kind of like they were just They were 22 or 23 when they started teaching. I can remember girls in high school having crushes on them and I definitely don't think that they were ready for it, but

Dick butter ethics. Yeah, yeah okay I can get that because otherwise can you can you I guess you could be fired for yeah okay I get it um uh yes just having a kid changes everything yep pat lying bill Belichick is 72 and is dating a 24 year old it's kind of gross yeah but I mean listen when you're 72 Legal still doesn't feel right, but you know by laws definition that consent is a number Legally, it's it's okay But she wants to bang a 72 year old to roll around the world in private jets and whatever 24 whatever Just it's not a meaningful relationship. We all know what it is around the world in private jets and whatever, 24, whatever.

Just, it's not a meaningful relationship. We all know what it is. Jake, what are you doing now? What trauma would a man have from slipping his female teacher a quick sausage? I don't know. I was laughing at this. Ken Walters, it's weird I only got A's in college, but I had woman professors. Good on you, bro. Good on you.

I'm not mad at you. Good on you. And then the last thing, well, I was having some feelings last night. My kid has now reached an age where he, and I'm happy to, he understands a lot more things. His speech is getting better and he's starting to really comprehend a lot more things. And one of them is obviously that he has two moms and one of his, I look like a boy.

So here's how the grade school conversation goes between seven-year-olds Hey, do you have dad? No, I have two moms. Oh Where's your other mother right there points to me? Kid looks confused and I get that like I totally get that but now I have to kind of figure out a way to Make this easier on like for me. I get it. It's fine. I'm an adult. He's seven. So I had some feelings last night about that. And I was like, Oh shit, am I just making his life harder right now? And literally, when we say all the time that, you know, it would be much easier if we were just straight. It really is it. You don't wish this like on anybody. It's just easier not to be gay

but So yeah, I had some feelings and just wondering like oh my god Am I am I making this kid harder was I selfish because I wanted a kid and didn't kind of really realize the ramifications of? How what would happen to him? Having to explain my shit, and I don't want him to have to explain my shit. I've indicated my mom can dunk on your bitch ass dad so shut up. Yeah, I mean, back in the day, I could, I could still can I could touch the now. My knee, my knees are 43 year old knees with a lot of mileage on them.

But so I kind of really had to, you know, kind of wrestle. I have started to wrestle with that a bit last night and I had some feelings. So I don't want to not go watch his games. Obviously, I know he wants me to go to all these things. But at the same time, I kind of have to ask myself if I'm I making it more difficult for him doing that? You know what I mean? Do I just kind of like hang out and watch from the back? So you know what I mean? It's, it's kind of tough. But yeah, definitely had some feelings about that last night. And I mean, I guess I'm, we're just gonna have to navigate this as it comes. But I just I mean, it's weird. But the thing is, is like, I don't, I don't ever take away the

feeling that you have, because I don't experience that, you know, we talked about that all the time, like, I don't experience the the situation, the situations or challenges that, you know, you go through and stuff like that. I just know as your kid, it's more important that you're there. And the best way that we can, the best way that we can be his parents is by showing him that we're kind, that we are proud to be who we are, and that we love him no matter what. And this world, this life is never going to be easy. You know what I mean?

Like fill in the blank. We all have shit that we have to navigate. We all have shit that we have to deal with and stuff like that. And I think at the end of the day, I think you have to decide what's more important for you, you know, Be absolutely I want to go see his game Yeah, I just I of course I worry about him to no end and I don't want to make you know him have to explain things That a seven-year-old shouldn't have to explain explain things that a seven year old shouldn't have to explain. As I say that constantly and then I'm like, Oh, he's got to explain me. Like, yikes. Um, Jeffrey Birchfield, what

makes it hard on kids is overzealous parents and say, yes, I know those parents and that will never be me. I'm very much just a clap and say, go little G. Like that's, uh, but yeah, I mean all of them, Bernie, Judy, Meg, you know, vindicate, you know what I mean? That's your, that's your baby and we made the choice to have a son and we made a choice to have a child and to raise him the best that we can. We talk about this all the time. You know, we can only do the best that we can with the best that we can. We talk about this all the time. We can only do the best that we can with the tools that we have learned along the way.

You know what I mean? This idea of like, if I could keep him in a fucking bubble, I would keep him in a goddamn bubble. But I can't because this world is what it is. And we can only put up street signs for him and are those construction signs and just showing him a little bit at a time, a little bit at a time, a little bit at a time, of all the things that we wish that we had a little bit more

knowledge on. And that's all we can do. But the most important thing that I can say for me, I don't know if you would agree with this too or whatever in your situation, but showing up and being there for him is the most important thing. I wanted my parents to be there more.

I wanted to have that type of relationship more. You know what I mean? And I think that we give that to him the best they would. That is the greatest gift that we can give him. The weirdest thing is that this would not be a thing like seven years ago. Like when we first decided to have him, this was not really this big of a thing.

I think it always would be a conversation. But man, now if we did not have a kid now, and we were talking about having a kid now, I literally would have to wrestle with it. Because do I want to put him through that? Do I want to have to make, or for him to have to do mental freaking gymnastics to have two moms? You know what I mean?

So, Barry, I think you're responding to something from a little bit ago, but in parts of the US, it allows teachers, assist in gender transition and not tell the parents. Yeah, that's on the ballot for us. I think that's, imagine if a teacher comes onto a kid under the assumption, yeah, trust. Yeah, I get what you're saying. And that is too, I definitely don't want anybody talking to my kid about it other than us when it's time and it's

age-appropriate. So. But that's the thing we we get to guide him as age appropriately as we feel is necessary. He has two moms and the best thing that we can show him is that he has two moms that show up and love him and do everything that we can for him. You know what I mean? And we help him process things. We help him learn things. Like that is what we get to do as his mom. Some families have two dads. Some families have a mom and a dad.

Some families have grandparents. You know what I mean? Some families have aunts and uncles that care for them. Some families are adoptive families. And I think that that is the most age appropriate thing that we can teach him now. And then as he gets older, we have those bigger conversations, those more in depth conversations where he can understand that. But you being his mom, and him wanting you to be around, especially for those things that you guys bond on, which is football, which is sports, which is walking him to school and picking him up, which is showing up in all of those aspects of whatever. As your wife and partner and co-mom to raising our son, I think that it would do more harm for both

of you if you neglected your time with him because you're worried about what other people think. At the end of the day He's going to have questions and that's not a bad thing his friends are going to have questions and that's not a bad thing but we get to show him that At the end of the day he's gonna look around and be like yeah I've got two moms and they're pretty fucking cool, you know Yeah, Elizabeth when he gets older and understands more, he will truly appreciate you being. Yeah, I'm, I'm gonna go, you know, tonight we got flag football, I totally plan on being

there and, and it's a little easier with this team just because the majority of parents already know me. Like most of them I grew up with, so it's easier because they already know who I am. It's not a big deal. But it was just, I kind of, uh, oh, sorry. Oh, uh, Jody Lynn, I think you're overthinking it. Gee, just love him. He'll be fine.

And well, I'm a woman and it might be that time of the month too. So I might be having some feelings. I mean, also, I get it. The female energy over here. The thing is too, is I'm not saying that there isn't a bigger conversation that will eventually need to be had because in this world, the difference now is that this world is telling you who you are and therefore telling our kids who you are. You know what I mean?

Society says if you have short hair, that you must be trans. And it's a conversation of like, no, I'm a woman that has short hair and this is who I am in my entirety. Biologically, I am a woman. I was born, I am born a woman, have all the women parts. I just look this way. And the difference now in the bigger conversation now,

and I think that the pressure now, or the frustration now, I guess, is that the world is telling you and then in turn can turn around and tell our kid, no, no, no, no, no, no, your mom's a boy. She has to be a boy. If she looks like that, she has to be a boy. That's so crazy, right?

It's just so- But we get to, you get to tell him the truth. You get to, we get to. The world's going to tell what the world's going to tell, but at the end of the day, we get to tell him the truth that he has two moms that love him and that show up for him. Oh, geez. They make this so difficult for no reason whatsoever. Uh, go chase. What's up? Love the boy. Love each other. Be good people. Nothing else matters. That's what I try to go by. I think, feel like is that simple. There is no ultimate protection for our children.

You just need to make them prepared for the hard times that will always come. Yeah, true. I mean, there's no way to escape that. What else we got in here? Natalie Fleming, you got agreed vindicate my dad neglected me for nine years and I still to this day struggle with neglect, trust, et cetera. And when he came back for me, it was too late and now the relationship is on my terms and mine only. Yeah, fair. Yep. Absolutely. No, I get that. I plan on going. It's just, you know, it just sucks that the season even has to be a thing that I have

to think about and that we've come this far and swung this far. But I just, I really was, I was, I was like, damn man, if I, if we didn't have kids and I was, we were thinking about it today, I might just be like, uh, this is too crazy. This is really just too crazy. Yeah. But we get to Pat Lang The teacher student gender thing was geared towards kids who were afraid to tell their parents that they might be different for fear of Yes Um, like how a parent might react to a kid coming out. Yeah. Um, I said this before I I get that

I understand that you know there are some people out there that their kid's gonna come out to them and they're just gonna throw them on the streets or tell them they're not their kid anymore and that there has to be places for gay kids and trans kids and whatever to go. I still don't think there are trans kids,

but trans adults or trans youth or whatever, that they have somewhere safe to go if their parents are not going to be that safe haven. I just don't feel like it's fair to punish the parents that are good parents and that would care about their kids and that would, you know, go through all of it with them. You know what I mean? Like you're making a, it's a blanket law kind of thing that I just feel like is wrong. But it's again, case by case basis. So that's the only thing that I, that I feel about that. Otherwise I don't want to tell any other parent what to do with their kid.

But I also don't want you telling me what I have to do with mine and threatening to take my kid away kind of thing. If you feel, if you deem that my house is unsafe, cause I won't go take him to get my kid away kind of thing. If you feel, if you deem that my house is unsafe, because I won't go take him to get surgery, that kind of thing. And yeah, and there's a lot of, there's a lot of scary things out there for the gay kids and whatever's happening out there. It is, it's scary. A lot of things can happen if you just throw your kid away.

So I get why they want to protect them, but taking other parents' rights away just isn't, that's not the way to go. What else? Anybody else want to jump in here? Thought I saw some stuff. Are you trying to pull something up at the same time I am? No. Magdalene, also seven year olds ask questions nonstop. They may sound like assholes, but Are you trying to pull something up at the same time? I am. Nope. Magdalene also seven year olds ask questions nonstop. They may sound like assholes, but they're at the stage of questioning everything. Yep.

Ain't that the truth? Yeah. Listen, we were worried that he wasn't going to talk and he lovingly never shuts the fuck up. Lovingly. Lovingly. Peace and love. Yes. Very lovingly. He never shuts the fuck up. So we love him.

Yeah, that was that was pretty much all we unless you guys got something you want to chit chat about. Um, I think cool, Pat. It was very nice to meet you today. I really do appreciate you hanging in. Judy, I listen a lot. Come on, babe. Let's be real. I just like the, come on, babe. I haven't heard that in so long. Come on, babe.

What'd you do? Um, but everybody else. Appreciate you having a blast. I think, I think we're going to see you on Sunday and I promise it'll be more, uh, oil and dildos. Oh boy. Tampons and all that kind of stuff. We'll get back into that.

Yeah. I think someone asked if the freak off was just an orgy or what the difference was, I'm pretty much feel like it's the same thing, but I think it's, I think it's the same, I don't know. But the creepy thing is, is he used to have his white parties out here in North Sea. Like there was a big ass, uh, a big ass barn kind of thing looking thing. It's not there anymore. But I can, I should take a picture of the spot that it was at. They're like, oh, original freak offs. But that's where the, I guess the original freak offs were at. So boy right around the corner. I don't know how I feel about that. It's like 10 minutes away or some shit. So I don't know how I feel about that. But thanks, guys. But yeah, if we are

Oh, Philip Kelly, did we miss you? He said ignored. What did you ask? What happened? I didn't mean to. I didn't. We're not listening. We're not used to having the comments move this quickly. And what's on but you're always late. He always comes to the, no, this one. He's always like, I just got here. Can we start over? It's him and who else? Is it Gus? Augustus that always do that to us too? Like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't seen Gus in a while. Is everybody, anybody know if he's okay wherever he's at? Oh, this one, Philip, is this what you're talking about? What about parents who feel like they failed as a parent when their child comes out of the closet?

Thoughts? Oh, okay, that's a good question. Yeah, I think, I know that my mother did feel like that. She really, really wanted grandkids and was very upset that I was gay or that I am gay. But I think you have to give the parents some grace. We've always said this about parents of transgender kids or the parents are grieving what they thought that they were going to, you know, what they thought their life was, you know, they were going to have kids grow

up, have grandkids, have a big wedding or regular wedding or whatever they envisioned in their head for their kids. And then it's kind of gone and parents need a minute to, to be able to, you know, come to grips with that. Hey, it looks different now. It's a, and I get that I get why parents could be sad. I think that it's okay for parents to, you know what I mean? It's like, it's not your fault. You didn't do anything.

Mm hmm. It. Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't think Yeah, I just I think. I think we all have. We grew up with this idea that, um, you know- That's tough, Pat. I don't think that at all. If a parent is upset that their kid comes out, they are a weak, pathetic human being, not an opinion, a fact.

Nope. I don't think that's a fact at all. I just think- I'm sorry. Go ahead, babe. No, no, no. It's just that I think you're right. I think that parents have an idea of what their kids' futures look like. And most of the time it is a heterosexual relationship because I think that they feel that it's easier.

It is freaking easier. It's easier in life. It's easier in life to have a normal heterosexual relationship, get married, have kids, have a good life. And I don't know if my I don't know if my mom. Oh, here's Olivia, your dreams of your child's future crumbles, then you pick yourself up and just keep loving them. Yeah, I mean, and that's okay crumbles, then you pick yourself up and just keep loving them. Yeah, I mean, and that's okay. Parents can do, you're allowed, you have the space to do that.

Yeah. It's okay for them. And it is, it's about the grandkids. A lot of times it's this idea of, you know, they wanna be grandparents, they wanna have grandkids, and they wanna be able to experience that part. I don't think that my mom, I mean, my mom never actually said that she felt like she failed. I know she was sad for me.

But again, with time, like everybody says, you know, this is my choice. This is who I love. This is who I'm with. and the rest of it falls into place if everybody wants it to. And it's okay, it's sad, if not everybody can accept moving on and having a relationship and everything like that. But I think at the end of the day, we do what we feel like is best for us, but also understanding that not everybody is okay with it from the beginning and that it does take time. I think that if a parent is willing to have conversations about it, I think it gives more

opportunities for support. I think that it's also very clear if a parent doesn't accept it and completely cuts ties. I'm sad for that parent being a parent because again, I could never imagine not loving my son and not having a relationship with my son. You know what I mean? But some parents just can't. Some parents can't get past their beliefs and everything like that.

And I think that most parents try to understand the best way that they can with time. Yeah. I mean, my grandmother asked me a lot of questions. That's kind of how we got through it. When I came out, she just asked me a whole bunch of questions and kind of was asking me if I was all the stuff that she does on that she saw on television because right, right back then there was queers folk, there was all these, you know, crazy gay shows that what she had seen. And she was like, you're not out doing that. Are you? And I was like, no. And then she was fine with it. She's like,

as long as you're not in the clubs, you know, smoking crack till three in the morning, I'm good. It's fine. Dick butter, you've got this seven acting like he's ending the show and staying on for another 30 minute thing down pat. That was a good question. I wanted to make sure that a PK got his answer and whatever. So PK is OG. Gotta take care of them. Um, yeah. Bernie Garen parents want their children. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Um, Pat, man, you're coming. You're coming in hot. The parents that can't handle gay

kids are that way almost entirely because of religion, which is all you need to know. Um, I listen, my grandparents went to church every freaking Sunday. We went to midnight mass for Christmas. Every Christmas we did all of the Easter things and all. And they couldn't have given a crap that I was gay. It really couldn't. My grandmother just wanted me to be safe. That's it. Because back then, the AIDS thing was still really, really big.

And it was still that, you know, gay people got AIDS. It wasn't, you know what I mean? There was still that, you know, gay people got AIDS. It wasn't, you know what I mean? There was still kind of that stigma to it or whatever. So I mean, that's pretty much it. But we had nothing to do biblically. Like we always went to church. Even my pastor was super cool. Yeah. I just think it takes time. Yeah. And parents need to give themselves a break. Give yourself some, I get it. Like it's okay. When we come out of the closet, we're coming out with some big ass news. We're talking about who we're sleeping with.

It's not like we're talking about that we're switching jobs. You know what I mean? God hates gays. I hope not. He says they need to be put to death in the Bible. How do you guys feel about that? I don't think that. I've had a lot of conversations about religion and being gay and

lesbian, whatever. And I just I don't think that I've always said that I feel like if I what Chase said earlier, if I try to be a good person, love my wife, don't cheat on my wife, don't steal from people don't, you love my wife, don't cheat on my wife, don't steal from people, don't murder people, don't do all of those things. And I'm acting in the way that God would want me to. So I don't feel like that at all. Ernie Gaza, still mind blown that you're 43.

Thank you. Black don't crack, baby. I don't know what to Thank you. Black don't crack baby. Like I don't know. Tell you. Oh, Rambler asked this earlier. Uh, talking to Danny Spiegel. I that'd be great. It would be amazing. We'll try. Uh, I reach out. Yeah. Um, vindicate if my daughters came out as gay, I might sleep better. Not worrying about If my daughters came out as gay, I might sleep better not worrying about that. Listen, if you want a good real quick laugh at the end of the show, I have five sisters and every single one of them got pregnant like that. One of my sisters has like four kids, another one has like four kids, the other one has

two. And they get pregnant like sneezing. And I was like, God knew what he was doing with me, man. He made sure because glintons are fucking fertile and I was, and he, he knew exactly what was going to happen. I was going to be just end up just like my daddy with like five kids trailing behind me. So he knew he gave me a shot. I was like, thanks. Appreciate you. Yep. And then gave you a wife that wanted to bury her children. So.

And if I was going to have a child, I'm not after watching my wife do it. And God bless all of the women on this, in this show that gave birth because y'all are the strongest people I know with the fastest reflexes I know. So, um, uh, Ian, hey, dude, you've been, I'm chilling. Uh, lesbians aren't able to get pregnant. How am I just learning this? I mean, we are, but we got to go through a lot of hoops to get there and it's a lot of money. So it took a long time. You can't just, you know, fall on a penis and be like, oops'm pregnant. Oh boy here we go. Can we save this for Sunday? This is what you want to talk about outside.

If you are a lesbian and you use a dildo are you... You know what? As many labels as they've been coming up with lately maybe. I don't know. We used it for a little while and then it was no fun. So we stopped using it. So I guess I'm back to being five star. I don't know. Clock, Leviticus only prohibits male homosexuality. God is cool. Like everyone is. got is cool with lesbians. Thank you, clock. I appreciate you.

Vindicate, do your grandparents know you're a five star? I think so, but they've never actually seen me. I've never came home with boyfriends or I went to a prom with my best friend. He was my boyfriend, but basically a best friend at the time. We weren't like actually doing anything. So maybe they know what a five-star lesbian is. They know the definition of it. So, all right, we do it. Oh yeah, discount on the exercises.

Use 7-Ons Code for that. Over there. And then what else we got down here? Go buy Matusi and Tues powder. And Vindicate. Yeah, Vindicate shirts, get you some paper street coffee and some peptides to go with the coffee. And then-

Get the peptides in the coffee. Yeah. And then go to BirthFit to find out how to have babies. Because I definitely... What would be the female exercise? She's a boy. I was going to go back to his first question real quick of how we met. Oh, that might be a better question. We met through Garrett's father's side of the family.

So I worked with her. Wait, wait, wait. We'll tell the whole story on Sunday. Yeah, we're coming back. I think we're coming back on Sunday. We'll tell the whole story on Sunday and get into it. It's called the V tone. What's what's a V tone?

The female version of the exerciser from Stephen. All right. Well, now I got to do research and I'll come back with that on Sunday too. Let me write this down. Okay. All right, guys. It was so much fun. Thank you for having us. Pat Lang. Appreciate you, brother. Nice to meet you. Everybody else. We love you so much. Good job. I love you too, Pat Lang. But yeah, like it's good to see you. I haven't seen you guys. All of our people. Good to see you guys. Good to see some new faces that we haven't had the opportunity to talk to before. So super cool so super cool all right guys it's been fun have a great day

have a great weekend go bother seven yes all right bye guys deuces