The Sevan Podcast - John | Raw Meat Experiment - THE TRUTH ABOUT RAW MEAT

Episode Date: February 26, 2024

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collared shirt and a sports coat and the odd natural of eating raw meat. Yeah. I'm trying to class it up a little bit, you know? Yeah. Or I'm just, I'm just a judgmental fuck that tries to keep people in their box and stereo. Well, have you been following the new chicken page? Dude, I absolutely love it. It really, it's, it's it's pushing on like because i you know i was raised that um christians were bad and uh salmonella is everywhere it's funny since i've been following your page i've been doing a little research on salmonella i cannot find chicken salmonella outbreaks it's that fucking cantaloupe yeah we need to we need to outlaw cantaloupe. We need to, we need to outlaw cantaloupe. Yeah. Nobody's worried about the fruit.

It's great. It reminds me of the vaccines. If you just do 15 minutes of research, not even that five minutes of research, you're like, wait a second. Yeah. You should check out. Have you seen, I have a new page called raw chicken experiment. Yes, sir. Yes, sir sir you're 29 or you're 30 days in uh 37 i just did oh okay okay just a day 37 and yeah that page is way bigger it's like yeah 400 420 000 in 37 days no the chick-fil-a is amazing hey Hey, dude. Hey, dude. Hey, John. How – this is – we talked about this last time. How are you such a social media giant?

How are you a guru? How is it everything you touch on social media is gold? I mean you are a fucking genius, dude. I know that's not – I don't think that's your intention, but you're just the man when it comes to social media. I looked on this page. I'm like, dude, this page is 28 days. When I looked at 28 days old, I had 400,000 followers. I'm like, this guy's a guy. It's completely, it's completely insane. It's, I think it's cause I do it as a, it's comedy to me, you know, like I'm doing it to entertain myself. And a lot of people will just be like, you're eating raw meat for clout. and it's like first

of all i had plenty of large pages before i ever did that so if anything it just makes people think i'm stupid you know it's not it's not a good thing to do when you already have like all these relationships online but aside from that it's like there's also a thousand people that eat raw meat on instagram and don't blow up so like it's not an easy way to being popular you're muted and on youtube thank you suza um uh on youtube there's a lot of tom dick and harry's eating raw meat it's everywhere yeah yeah there's there's thousands of people out there doing it, but like to do it and also be funny online is like something that not many people mix.

It's interesting. Um, it is a very, you're very, um, Zen. I w I watched the video where the lady, by the way, I DM that lady. There's an amazing video, you guys, on YouTube. It's 20 minutes long. It will blow your mind. He's eating a steak, and he's holding it in his hand. The framing and everything is genius, and she's going – she's a Los Angeles – is that L.A.? Yeah, that was L.A. Oh, dude, she's so L.A.

That was amazing it's LA valley girl Ayurvedic yoga guru lecturing him on um what a d-bag he is as nice as she can for eating meat and then telling her she can help him out of his derangement and that she'll meet him where he's at and she's not the kind of person to force her opinions on people. So I text her. I DMed her. I'm like, ma'am, you know that you're exactly the person you don't want to be. Did she answer? No, actually, I don't even know. I don't even know. It was wild, dude. I was only two weeks into eating raw meat at that point. So now that I'm like two and a half years, like I would actually be good at speaking to her about it. But at that point, like I was like, I don't know, maybe I will die. I have no idea. Was she the first like person that was like combative in public about what you were doing? Yeah, yeah. She was the first person that

she tried to physically stop me from eating lunch at the whole foods she was fake combative like trying to be nice like um using like she had was some sort of authority it was it was amazing it's amazing dude i watched the entire thing i couldn't even believe it i was like wow this lady is a psycho and then i i found her like her shop after she had like a shop online. Elite organics, right? With a Q. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just these like, I don't know what they are, but they all have like seed oils in them and stuff. Hey, for people who don't, you've been on the show before, for people who don't know, would you give us,

tell us why you embarked on the um on the raw meat and about the amazing transformation you had yeah so basically i went from like a very very long time many years of like plant-based diets kind of failing health going downhill back pain like terrible face cystic acne actually like everywhere and yeah I was just like tired and dizzy all the time. So I ended up going down just trying anything I found like some of the carnivore diet people. And I never really went like 100% meat only like religiously. But I was like, maybe there are health benefits to eating these foods. And then from there, just into raw milk, kind of and like like why raw milk versus

cooked milk have different nutrients, what the heat does to the nutrients. And then I was like, you know what? I want to just try everything raw and see what happens. So I basically- And you did raw vegetables too. You were committed to that. You did just raw vegetables for a while, right? Yeah. I did like the raw fruit and vegetables thing for only a few months at a time because it was too hard to like i would be going to like an office job with like a backpack full of apples and pears and shit it was just right it's just too too difficult for me now you go with a backpack full of dead animals yeah but you only need like a pound and a half instead of like 40 pounds, you know. Fair. You can have a small backpack now. But yeah, so I basically went into that and I was like, it would be funny to document it.

And because everybody, there's a few people online that are like, I eat raw meat and I own my own cattle. And like, it just seems like very like, how do I actually do this? And like, it just seems like very like, how do I actually do this? So I was like, I'll just go sit in front of a Whole Foods, buy the food in there, and just eat it out front right out of the package and just see what happens. Talk about it, see what it tastes like. And I didn't really think it was going to blow up because I was like, the audience for this is probably like 190 people, you know, like who would actually, I was like, this is something I would watch personally, because I think it's interesting, but nobody else would. So I ended up doing that for 200 days in a row. It kind of blew up. It went on all types of news across the world. They were like, this guy's eating raw meat to see how long until he dies. And he never died. Like my health problems that I initially had went away. I felt better. It just kind of makes sense to me. And also just like, I kept doing it out of spite a little bit cause you have like thousands of people telling you

you're gonna die. And you're like, okay, when can you, can you update your, like the TikTok doctors all come out, come after me and make videos. And it's like, okay, you did it on day three saying I was gonna die. But can you update your followers now on day 840 and tell them why I didn't? You can't.

And they didn't, right? No, none of them will ever do that because they can't. And the only thing is, it's all just food quality and they don't know anything about that. They think eating Walmart chicken is the same as eating a chicken from a farm that's has no injections, no drugs, isn't eating corn and soy. Like these are just, they think chicken is chicken. You'll get sick, but it's like you get sick from poisoned chickens. Sure. But not chickens that are normal. You know, I, uh, when I first came across you, I was eating, uh, uh, the, I was eating gas station. Um, uh, after, after I met you met you i was i ate some gas station um

uh ground beef for months oh yeah and it and it was fine too and i would i would blend it with some i would my wife would put it in a food processor a pound blend it with a little butter and a couple dates and i would just eat that shit all day and it sounds kind of good yeah it was great with beef i'm not worried at all like i got to the point where i'm like eating beef and drinking water is like equally dangerous to me you know there's like there's nothing i eat ld beef all the time it's five dollars holy shit dude you know what this is by the way i want to throw one more thing when he says he had acne as i recall when you were on the show it was so bad that you would put on a shirt and then have to throw the shirt away because it would be covered with little blood specks everywhere all

over the back right i mean you had really bad skin issues yeah and people sometimes now they're like your skin doesn't look perfect and i'm like well it doesn't hurt anymore and it's like 80 better than it was so well you know what i i know i you have great skin by the way i don't want to say uh i don't this does is don't please don't take this uh the wrong way but um i noticed you were eating um with that chick-fil-a you had the bread oh yeah when you eat that do your sinuses close up a little bit or do you feel some immediate breaking out um not quite but it definitely doesn't feel great i'm just kind of trying to make the videos a little more enjoyable for the people you know so i'm eating like a small amount

of grains i'll just take a couple bites but that was just like the organic like dave's bread i brought my own i didn't eat like the actual chick-fil-a bread okay okay so that was a little better but it's not great that was just for for fun. And you really mixed up your, um, your meats. Yeah. Is that the penis of that animal? Do we know? That is just a huge clam that just happens to look like that. Oh, okay. Yeah. There's a bunch of like Asian women on social media and they'll like squeeze it and it squirts everywhere.

Wow. Wow. That sounds like like only that sounds like only fans yeah that's by the paywall i'm surprised it's allowed on there hey um any any issues from um the great overlords of censorship um regarding because i know that there's accounts that have millions of followers on youtube where people will just eat boxes and boxes of fruit loops and just shit like that and cheetos and they i don't think they get censored did you get censored at all for eating raw meat yeah i mean a few times that when raw meat experiment started blowing up it was like on every news station in the entire world like like Al Jazeera and all this random shit. And it was going up like 10,000 followers a day. And then all of a sudden it stopped and it never went up a single thousand ever since that two years ago. And people were

DMing me saying like, it won't allow me to follow you. Like the follow button didn't work anymore because it was going up so fast. And then, yeah, so that page pretty much stayed. That's why for the chicken one, I started a new page. And I was like, you know, maybe we can like get around the shadow band page and go viral this time. And it did work, but at first it wouldn't allow me to comment or caption my own videos. And I couldn't follow people. And that could be just because, you know, I had that too, uh, for about two months, a month ago, I couldn't, I, I would

write out a whole caption for a video and post it and it wouldn't be there. And then I would notice that would hurt people's videos and it wouldn't be there. And I would comment and it would say, you've been commenting too much. And I'm like, what do you mean? I just like, I like, I haven't just woke up yeah the same thing happened to me and maybe it was because it was like a new page that blew up so fast but yeah um also go ahead rummy experiment got completely deleted for no reason for like six months and I sent like 20 emails for a while I didn't care I was like fuck Instagram I don't even feel like doing that anymore and then I'd be like I kind of For a while, I didn't care. I was like, fuck Instagram. I don't even feel like doing that anymore.

And then I'd be like, I kind of missed like the people I was friends with on there though. Like I had like hundreds of people I talked to. So I just kept sending like the emails and the DMs and found some people to email off LinkedIn that worked at Instagram. And I eventually I sent one and I was like, I'm going on Dr. Phil this weekend and I'm writing a book and I need all of my backed up information like you don't have to give me the page back but I need the information and like somehow that maybe made someone feel bad about the book or something so they got me the page back uh that was like six months probably that it was gone did the person acknowledge to you that they hey i'm gonna get it back for you they just they make it very they're like oh

it looks like there was some sort of mistake we're sorry about that like it looks like ai wrote it you know right right a mistake sure i lost i had i had an account um many years ago checkmark account that had 100,000 followers, and it was taken from me. And then recently I had another account taken with me. I want to say it had 15,000, but I don't know. And then I paid someone, a kid in Argentina, $1,300 to get it back for me. Did it work? Yeah, it worked. Kind of crazy, right?

I paid him $800, and he said, sorry, I can't get it back. And I said, okay, well, either you have to tell me it's a a scam and then we just won't talk anymore. I'm cool with that. Or give me my $800 back or get it back. And he goes, Hey, I'll get it back for you right now. If you send me another 500, I go get it back first. And he said, okay. And then I looked in 20 seconds later, it was back. So I sent him the 500 bucks. So now it was 1300, but then a week later it was gone. And so I'm like, Hey, my account's gone. And he goes, Oh, for a thousand, I'll get it back. And it'll never be, I'll put a block on it so they can never race. And I'm like, I'm good. Thank you though. I'm good. What kind of scam is going on? Right, right, right. And I asked him, I said, Hey dude, how do you, how are you doing this? Like, can you tell me how you're

doing this? And he goes, yeah, um, uh, I have a friend who works there. And so this guy basically collects the money and then his friend brings accounts backs. And then I guess they divvy up the loop. You're not a bad scam. Yeah, no. Yeah. Capitalism. I should try to get a job there. Yeah. Hey dude, that's, that is really crazy. You got your account back. Yeah. That was really cool. Cause I started a second one, but like, it was at like 18,000 followers and you know, you just like, what, what's the point of growing it again if they're just going to kill it? Yeah. It was way easier for me to get people on the show.

I think when I met you, I probably had the a hundred thousand account because it had a blue check mark because people would respond to it. And now, you know, with the know how i have 2 000 followers or whatever i have now no one no one responds i'm like will you come on my podcast and they're just just crickets yeah for for podcasts a lot of people they all have fake followers anyway on instagram like i get asked on a lot i'm saying no to most of them just because it's a lot of time but uh yeah you have to like check their actual podcast stats on the app and see how many reviews they have or something but well i i appreciate you

coming on this crowd is this my every one of my listeners is obsessed with what they put in their mouth whether they eat healthy or not this crowd is um that they're they're really focused on their mouth tell me about um the whole the whole uh bacteria thing is this like you were on dr phil and he just sounds like a moron to me he sounds like he's just regurgitating stuff like he hasn't done any research yeah what what are your thoughts on on back this back you can't eat raw meat bacteria what what are your thoughts on that on on back this back you can't eat raw meat bacteria what are your thoughts on that yeah i mean every it's like every animal on earth eats nothing but raw foods except for us and we have sushi steak tartar and all these raw foods that somehow get a pass but then they just kind of i think it's just to stop people from questioning like can we eat raw foods you know because you're like okay technically it's in its natural state it's not destroyed in any way and you you would expect that it has more

nutrients that way but then they're like but you can eat it because it's covered in these little monsters that want to kill you and also so pretty much where i'm at with it is like the bacteria gets blamed for the poisons added to the foods. You know, like it could be maybe you got sick from like eating a thousand pounds of pesticides in the last two months. And then you're just like, there's a lot of salmonella there. And the raw meat people will say that like the bacteria has jobs you know like maybe it's cleaning up trying to trying to make it so that you don't die from eating all of this glyphosate or something like that so i mean they'll say in like the the non-germ theory people you know they say there's no such thing as bad bacteria and that's kind of how it makes sense to me. Like, why would there be good and bad bacteria, but only for humans and like animals can just eat whatever they want. Like a dog can

lick a toilet and like eat raw chicken off the floor and be fine. But somehow we're so weak that we're not allowed to do it. The more and more I looked into things like polio and tetanus and basically they, they had to get to you. They have to be put into your blood for you to get polio or for you to get tetanus. It has to be put into your blood without, um, ever touching oxygen. Yeah. And which would make it very, very hard to get a polio.

And then the more and more I read about it i realized um that where i've kind of settled my understanding of how you get it is basically you have to already you have to have leaky gut and you have to eat it and then you know your digestive tract is separated from there's a blood barrier there right and basically you have to have leaky gut from which comes from eating pesticides uh specifically uh arsenic and, which were used as pesticides. And then, and that's why people were getting polio is because it was passing through that, that blood barrier. And then people were getting it. And as soon as people weren't poisoned, it didn't matter kind of what they ate. Your stomach could fucking destroy anything.

Yeah, pretty much. It's like to be sick, you have to be poisoned in some way. Cause it's like, you mentioned Weston price before. Yeah. If you go like any of those communities of people there's still some around today there's still people doing the type of work that he was doing and it's like they're they live to 80 or 100 years there's no medicine there's no doctors they just eat food from nature some cooked some raw you know it's like that's the if you're looking for like the natural human diet like what does a human a healthy human that lives a full life eat in nature and they like an animal based diet you know it's like they try to eat as much animals and fish as they can and then they eat whatever plants they can find that don't kill them in addition to that in saturated fats kind of

the miracle food that's where all the vitamins and minerals are what we've been told to stay away from that's raw that raw fat is where like all the things are that we really really need yeah you need the animal fat for sure yeah it's wild you posted a video i um i think it's of an inuit people i think think that's like Eskimos, people in the north. And they basically, I don't know what animal it was, but they killed an animal. And then they basically ripped it open and used it like a bowl and circled all the blood up. And then they took all the organs

and they were dipping it in the blood and eating it. And it was like the whole family, the grandmother, the babies, the mom's, dad's, uncles. And they were just sitting there, just eating it like just a fresh kill. It's a remarkable video yeah some people say that the word eskimo means eaters of raw meat and like they do eat a lot of their stuff raw that was uh that was actually on anthony bourdain he was they they killed like a a seal a giant seal and the grandma was like i want the

brain we need to eat the brain. And then they like, they, they drink a bunch of the blood and they save the rest of the blood for like pudding or something. Do you know this question I'm putting on the spot here, but does everything have salmonella in it? And so we all have a salmonella, but it's just the fact that the bacteria gets out of control and runs that wild. That's when you have problems. Yeah, that's what I've heard. I mean, they've tested like people in tribes where they have E. coli and salmonella in their gut at all times. And that's just like a normal part of life. Like people are like, aren't you scared of salmonella? I'm like, no, like I'm trying to eat healthy salmonella.

I think it's when it could be like a reaction of like the salmonella is trying to digest all of the toxins in the chicken on the shelf at like Target, you know? And like, so then the waste that they produce is toxic and you're eating like toxic waste of salmonella. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So that's one of the theories that I see going around. Do you know about gorillas, about their digestive system? Have you looked into that at all? Not much.

It was – people were like, hey, gorillas are big and strong, and I can't remember exactly how – and they don't eat any protein. And then someone explained to me, yeah, dude, they're eating tons of protein. And I'm like, what do you mean? And then someone explained to me, yeah, dude, they're eating tons of protein. And I'm like, what do you mean? I guess they eat those vegetables to feed something that's inside of their gut that they actually digest. And whatever that thing is, it's their protein. So they do consume a shitload of protein.

And they're not actually eating the – they're not actually using the vegetables they eat or the plant matter they eat as sustenance. They're feeding something that lives inside of them that eats the plants. And that's what, that's how they get their protein. I was like, well, yeah, now that makes sense. Yeah. I've heard, I've heard similar for other animals because people are like, well, this, this animal is strong. Why can't you just be a vegan? And it's like a cow eats grass, like see how long you can last eating grass. Like it's, it's like a cow eats grass. Like, see how long you can last eating grass. Like, it's just a fact that different animals have different digestive systems. You know, it's not like we're, like, eating and killing animals because we hate them. It's just, like, this is just what humans have always done the whole time. Cantaloupe recall.

Salmonella outbreak reveals eight dead, hundreds sick in the U.S. and Canada. Yeah, it's amazing. But cantaloupe just gets a pass. Yeah, you can't mess with the fruit cartel. Yeah, it's wild. And I dug around for like 15 minutes and I wasn't able to find people dying from chicken consumption.

Well, the thing is, everything is against the foods that are actually good you know it's like you can't eat you can't eat raw fish because of that parasites you can't eat fish at all because they have heavy metals you can't eat animal fat because it'll give you a heart attack you can't eat eggs because it has too much cholesterol you can't eat anything raw because you'll die of whatever so it's like there's nothing like where it's just like it's put in your head so many times that it actually like angers you when you see someone talk about it so like it doesn't happen with like chips or wendy's you know you'll never that's fine yeah

you'll never see somebody eating like wendy's online and get triggered but like when i eat when i eat chicken like people get like violently angry just like like they've been told so hard it's like why do you care yeah that's some dumb ass online's eating chicken okay big deal like how is that gonna affect your life if anything you should be like this is funny i don't care about this stranger if he lives or dies you know what do you think that psychological mechanism is i brought a uh flat earther on here and fucking the the audience went crazy like they they people were pulling out their pitchforks like they they they hated him and to tell you the truth you could tell this guy was trained to fight because people he's received

so much yeah um uh so so he was combative too right so and i was trying to like to facilitate this conversation between me and him and the in the audience but what do you think it is about things like that uh someone suggesting that the earth is flat or saying hey it's okay to eat raw chicken and actually not only is it okay but it's better for you yeah what do you think do you have any thoughts on what trick that's like what triggers them psychologically it has to just be just because they've been told so many times in a certain way you know like but really i don't even think these people know that they're like imagine like so like um i don't know if someone said like hey i hate all armenians and i've been

raised to believe i'm armenian right my mom and dad are Armenian. It would, it would, it would, it would hit me a little bit. I'd be like, Ooh, I feel, I feel like where that's what I identify with. But I don't think people walk around thinking that they identify with, Hey, I'm a, I'm a food, I'm a food cooker. Yeah. Like I cook my meat, I cook my food. And then all of a sudden someone says they rob me and they fucking flip out. Yeah. They get really, it's like cook my food. And then all of a sudden someone says they raw meat and they fucking flip out. Yeah. They get really,

it's like one of the most angry things I've ever seen, especially the raw chicken. That's why it blew up so fast. It got like a hundred, like it's on every news, like hundreds of thousands of like Facebook boomers are just commenting like, he's an idiot.

This guy's stupid. And you know, you click on their picture and it's just that just triggered me facebook boomers that's me you just talked about i'm pretty much a facebook boomer too but the you know you know the comments that get left under uh like news articles on facebook they're not the most in-depth conversations um this um the what is what is i've never had i can't i've never had raw chicken i mean i've eaten chicken that's i guess i have had raw chicken i've had chicken that like you know they bring it to me or i eat it and i'm like oh this isn't cooked

all the way and i get freaked out a little bit by the texture and, and, um, I do want to try it. Um, any suggestions on how I, how I try it, like where I go, what I should do, like cutting it with scissors. Should I call it, cut it in small pieces? Like what should I do if I want to try that? Well, basically for chicken, like I'm still, like I said, with beef, raw beef, like there's zero percent concern in my head anymore. With chicken, I'm still kind of like the big rotisserie propaganda is still kind of controlling me. So I'm very careful about sourcing. I'll do like basically it just has to be organic, like pasture raised, outside eating bugs. And the highest quality you can find

is if they say no corn and no soy. Like if they're not feeding them GMO corn and soy, which 99% of birds are fed, then you can tell like this person knows how to raise a good chicken. Like that's like the top level you can be. So I mean, Amish farms do that. There's Amish farms you can order from online

uh they'll ship it to you frozen oh here look someone's giving some good advice here uh eat your chicken with an ambulance on standby yeah i mean i have i have just straight up walked into whole foods bought the weird looking chicken off the shelf opened the plastic outside and ate it and nothing happened. Like the one sitting in styrofoam and it's like perfect. And it's all good. The texture's fine. It's good.

Yeah. The texture's actually great for breasts. Like you'd be surprised. It's just like, like I say, it's like a scallop. It's like biting a scallop that like barely tastes like chicken. Like it doesn't taste strong. When you cook it, it gets like 10 times stronger. So it's just like a refreshing, like moist scallop that just kind of tastes like chicken

a little bit. How are your teeth? How are your teeth? How are your teeth since that? Have you been to the dentist? Are your teeth just amazing now that you're not eating shit? They're definitely better, but I haven't been to the dentist are your teeth just amazing now that you're not eating shit they're they're definitely better but i haven't been to the dentist much yeah you don't need to no if you only eat like raw meat like you don't even have to brush your teeth like the yeah yeah like all the like and i mean i'm i'm like a 90 good eater 10 like friends

co-workers going out to eat and stuff so i still eat like other shit and like i can i feel that i feel worse but i'm like whatever i'm eating 90 good so i feel 90 better than i used to what about uh what about caffeine do you do coffee no i'm staying off all drugs right now i've wow no drugs at all. No stimulants, no nothing. Three years, no drugs, no supplements, no pills whatsoever, no powders. I'm doing food only. God, good on you. Yeah, it just feels better.

I mean, I did tons of drugs for like 20 years. I've done everything you could possibly. Like every situation you can get into on drugs. I've done it. I had fun. Threesome on ecstasy. I mean, I mean, you know, there's been a lot of stuff has gone down. I just feel like, like if I'm going to drink 25 beers in a day again, like how many times can i do that i've done it a thousand times when you drank it was that like uh when you would do that was that like um uh coors light or natty ice or stuff like that the last the most recent chapter like

four years ago was white claw oh we got into the white claw and we were smoking jewels and i was working in a meme office. So it was just like 10 people making memes and drinking White Claws and shit. It was kind of fun, but we definitely I felt like I had brain damage the whole time. Hey, I fucked around with a jewel for about six months and I started stuttering. Really? Yeah. Not bad, but I would start to talk.

And then I went online and looked, and it was a common thing. I basically poisoned my brain. But I would sometimes go to talk, and I would get a little. Yeah. I was like, holy shit. I smoked cigarettes. Did you ever have that? I didn't get a stutter. No.

I was like, every other breath was vaping. I was going hard on it for a while. Was that hard to quit, the Juul? I feel like nicotine was probably the hardest. Caffeine can kind of suck to quit just because it's everywhere. And, you know, like if you have to wake up and do some shit or you stay out too late and then you have to go to work, like it's a good cheat code. But I think nicotine was the hardest one to quit probably especially

because for me i have to quit drinking to quit nicotine because if i have like three drinks there's a hundred percent chance i'll just go buy a vape or cigarettes like i can't right i just did them together for so long that like it's not I have to get rid of both it's it sucks that vaping's so bad for you because it really is a um it's so it's so fun like the big billowing clouds and how deep you can take it and just and the smoothness and the taste it's a shame that it's so bad yeah there's so many flavors but it's just like in the office we we could just hit it all day and then like watching tv you hit it all day and then i'd be like on a three-hour flight like hitting it in the bathroom and shit i'm like there's something wrong with me right right right

did you ever um did you ever have sex and be vaping at the same time i would not be surprised yeah a little little vape break. That's when I noticed. I was like, oh, this is crazy. Because, like, you shouldn't be doing anything while you're having sex. You should be, like, focused. But, yeah. Yeah, like, the good thing about manual cigarettes was, like, you had to go outside and make it like a, I'm going to do this, you know? Right.

The vaping you can just do the whole time. to do this you know right yeah the vaping you can just do the whole time uh shannon madaris adjusting got organic meat from good ranchers uh crazy scary how much smaller an organic chicken breast is versus one pound with steroids sold in the supermarket oh interesting it's very true yeah like yesterday my video i was holding up the whole chicken they're like they're small chickens um you ever you ever put a piece of meat up to your uh raw meat up to your mouth or and and decide not to do it or smelt it or tasted something you're like hey i'm not eating this something's off it happened to me once where i was eating just like a pound of brown lamb i had in my fridge for a while wait did you oh you ate the shell too yeah sorry sorry we'll come back to

the bad meat in a second um thanks, Kayla, for derailing the show. What's up with eating the shell? How did you get that idea? I did it a few times on Raw Meat Experiment. I've been doing it for a long time. I don't do it all the time in real life, but it's just really triggering to people. How is that? I've never done that.

Yesterday, after a while, I knew you. I had some raw eggs yesterday just because to like get with the show yeah yeah tell me about eating the egg i've never done that so amazingly yeah i like rinse it off in the sink a little bit and then i'll you just put it in your mouth and crunch it it explodes and within like five seconds of chewing it's just gone you swallow it with you don't feel a single thing at all you never see it come out the other end like it doesn't tear your ass up like when i was a kid i used to eat sunflower seeds and it would tear my ass oh yeah the seeds aren't good but the shells it just disappears immediately like it's crazy people are like you must be

bleeding all over your gums and shit but if you you actually did it, you'd be like, wow, that's so easy. Like it's not even cool anymore. I'm going to try it, John. Yesterday I released a tooth powder, Matuthion. So a few months ago I started really getting into tooth powder. My mom and my sister have beautiful teeth and they just brushed their teeth with baking soda. And they've done that for years and years and years and then i had a guest on and we were talking about fluoride so i went down the fluoride rabbit hole and i'm like wow

you can't find every single study says it's toxic even the people who are pushing it's like oh it's okay just a little bit but it is a neurotoxin if you get too much it will lower your iq unequivocally 100 of the people that we gave fluoride poisoning to their iq went down especially little kids and it's not and you don't recover from it does like permanent damage to the brain um in the the the the metuthion that i'm selling one of the pieces are eggshells ground up eggshells in there do you use powder toothpaste i don't i haven't really looked into it but i have seen people like crunching up eggshells in there. Do you use powder toothpaste? I don't, I haven't really looked into it, but I have seen people like crunching up eggshells to make calcium powder or whatever they're doing tooth powder, I guess. Okay. I'm going to send you some of this. You're going to love it. It's absolutely, it's just put it on a brush. You wet your brush, you bang the brush

out on the side of the sink and then you just put it in there and you brush your teeth with it. the brush out on the side of the sink and then you just put it in there and you brush your teeth with it and your teeth have my teeth have never felt uh cleaner like they're like before when you brushed your teeth with toothpaste you thought your teeth were clean but it was just your mouth was fresh from the chemicals this you're like holy crap my teeth are clean yeah to be honest i don't even use toothpaste at all really you just use the brush and water yeah just the brush and water for a couple years i did used to i remember somebody saw me like dunking a toothbrush into baking soda in my bathroom once and put in my mouth and they just like started dying laughing it was like 10 years ago they're like that's the

craziest shit i ever saw i was like it must be like 20 years ago now i got somehow into alex jones and i was like going hard on like so i've been like scared of fluoride for like 20 years ago now i got somehow into alex jones and i was like going hard on like so i've been like scared of fluoride for like 20 years at this point he talks about that he did back then i haven't listened to him in a long time he's now now it seems like he's like political and like scam it's way more scammy now i was with him before because he was like everybody's a scammer don't believe any of them they're all trying to kill you. So I'm like, old Alex Jones was good with me. Old school Alex, yeah.

What happened to him? You think he went mainstream and softened his message? Well, one of my friends that was always the conspiracy guy, he's like, the 5G towers are coming after me. He's just a paranoid friend. Yeah. And I learned a lot from him. like, it's like the 5G towers are coming after me. He's like, you know, just the paranoid friend. Yeah. And like, I learned a lot from him, you know, like I owe him a lot for being the paranoid friend, but also he texted me like that. He was like pro Trump a few years ago. And I was like, wait, what? I thought, yeah. Wow. You're really going out on a limb there.

I thought we were all like against, you Hillary. They're all scammers. That's how we used to grow up. Then I was like, Jones must be pro-Trump now. So it just got like, when you're fighting within the system at that point, kind of. It just makes it the same as watching Fox News with a conspiracy twist. So it just seemed more useless to me. I just,

I still think he's like one of the greatest comedians that ever existed. He was like the funniest. Was he a comedian? Did he start off as a comedian, Alex Jones? No, not even, but just like the way that he, the way that he acts and like, you know, like the memes on the reels explore page, like anyone that has alex jones and it is just so good hey tell me about this because i was in a discussion with this uh with someone this morning about this and i'm not a christian um i i i but i um there's this huge

push politically coming from the right now that the left is going to um to or huge push from the left that the right is going to take away democracy and we've just lived through three what's interesting is i i believe from what i've seen we've just lived through three years of the left taking away democracy right the censorship the the freedom of speech is the big one right that one's kind of scary and then then the mandating of drugs. And then, of course, the open racism that's just being espoused everywhere in the name of fighting racism. So I'm watching that, but now the left is saying that the right is going to take away democracy. And I was talking with these people the other day, and although I'm not a Christian, Christians have this value that we have inalienable rights. And those trump democracy. Those are part of our liberty.

And do you ever think about that, about like, hey, maybe it is within the game, but this team is doing too well with things I't like like this like this open hatred towards white men maybe i'll maybe i'll chip in on and help on this side a little bit i'll vote i will vote for trump because i believe more in uh inalienable rights than um than this getting rid of democracy thing like do you do you ever like do you think like that at all or no for me i mean the whole thing transcend the whole thing kind of yeah i'm mean, the whole thing transcend the whole thing. Kind of. Yeah, I'm transcending the whole thing. But I mean, of course, like sometimes they'll be like this side is making a better point to these people and they make it so like you get really invested in it, you know. But at the end of the day, I don't think those people are really making any of the decisions that matter.

Like when there's like a class of people that are just printing out unlimited money for free and have been for thousands of years. Like, right. And then if you read like the Council on Foreign Relations, like it's a private group and they're old like history books by Carol Quigley. They say that like since the 1950s, all of the presidents were chosen by this group and like it's just a branch of like a royal institute of international affairs the british one they have groups you know it's like the there's just clubs kind of above this i heard it was actually krs one back in the day he said uh he was like the president is like the Burger King manager, or not the manager, like the cashier. It's like, that's the face that you see. It's like management makes a new rule that you don't like. You can yell at him or throw tomatoes at him. But yeah, in the old books, they would just say that the whole democracy, you get to choose a

new person every four years. Basically, you'll be pissed off by the end of the four years and you're pretty much just voting somebody out. But just giving you the illusion that you're choosing every four years keeps the people from uprising. Like that's all you need. What do you do? What about that? Do you think that they that it was then they didn't those people, this club did not want Trump to be in office? Do you think that that was somehow he slipped by? For that, I kind of don't. Don't. You think they wanted you to think that he slipped by, that was part of the story?

Yeah, that's how I see it. Fascinating. I do find him kind of funny. Like he's a funny person but i don't know i just i don't trust anybody with that much money i guess do you think that those people know that they're being chosen um you think they're looped in or no they don't even know not completely but partially like i'm sure they get they get a lot of benefits and they get to go to the the correct parties and stuff like that.

But. And flying the good planes and that shit. Yeah. And then they're just kind of told what to do. You know, it's like any, any person would take the job, you know, it's like human nature to take a job like that. Um, this, um, did you take the vaccine? No, no, I'm, I'm sort of, uh, like, like the fluoride thing.

I've just been scared of big farmer for like 20 years. Yeah. Smart. I didn't take, I didn't take it. I didn't take it either. And now I'm kind of, now I'm glad I didn't do it. Now I'm like, do you think that people are dying from the evidence you've seen? You think people are dying from blood, blood clots? As far as I've seen? Yeah. But I'm not

quite sure. So you think that I'm honestly like, I don't know, like you're out of that. I'm out of it. Cause I'm just like, I wouldn't, it's not something I would do. Like, I don't want like a pharmaceutical company injecting something into my body right it's like i'm eating raw meat on the internet you know are you on um are you on uh are you in los angeles or in florida now i'm in florida i've been moving around like every year or two because i work remote you can you tell me what you do uh i make memes for, Oh, you're still doing that. Still the same job. Yeah.

It's like I make memes for pages that just need content, you know, you work for specific, do you work for a specific company? Are you contracted? I, I do a lot of work for a specific company and then also just do stuff on the side,

help out people. Would someone like, I don't know, like nfl contract you and be like hey we want like 15 memes on um uh taylor swift and um and mr pfizer and then you do that they do stuff like that i haven't seen that personally but i have seen uh it's mostly brands that i see i haven't seen like how about political organizations do they ever hire you i would think you would be crazy valuable to a political organization they did once they hired a company i was working for and everybody got extremely upset about it i had no idea that there were i guess i didn't never thought about i didn't realize that there were like meme meme farms yeah there's meme farms and i work so but like it's mostly just funny shit that i'm involved in it's like useless just like useless funny shit that you just scroll past

all day i make stuff like that and that like the more content they have the more like ads and t-shirts they can sell on their pages and stuff like that. Hey, have you been, um, uh, have you been sick at all in the last, um, uh, four years and since you started this meat thing and, and, and what is your, what are your sicknesses like as opposed to before you started this when you get sick? So I've got sick once and, um, you had a cold or something, the flu or it was like a flu like maybe covid if that's the real thing or were you were you hacking up like green stuff boogers like the ones you can spit really far like that i was like yeah i was like knocked out in bed for a few days so i never got sick from any of the raw meat shit. And then I flew. This was like basically one year ago. So I was good for like three years. Then I flew to Hollywood to go on Dr. Phil.

And it was the first time I ever got tested for COVID. At first they were like, you need to be shot up to be on here. And I was like, all right, I won't go. And then they were like, no, you just need to be tested when you get here. So they like put the shit up your nose or whatever. And I did the shit. And then like the next day i was sick so wow did you put some shit up my nose bro wow hey have you ever seen the video of the guys bagging those um the covid tests covid tests i haven't i haven't i follow like conspiracy on reddit like i was into that forum during the COVID stuff because it was like exciting. You know, it's like what's going on. But I mean, overall, it's mostly useless.

Dude, there was a video. I don't know where it was, but it's a room and there's like 10 guys in there just in their shorts with their shirts off. Yeah, it's like this. Yeah, look at this. Packing your covid test for every 3 000 bags they make they get uh three pennies oh my gosh it was just yeah it was amazing because i was like you know there's people on the conspiracy pages that are like don't take the test the test is what gets you sick and then i got i didn't do anything at all until years later, I take one test and I got sick the next day. I was sick for like a week and a half, like just felt really like dizzy and shitty. I don't know.

But, um, that was it. I haven't been sick since then. And I feel like one, like, I feel like colds and flus are just kind of like a clean out session for your body, you know? So I don't take anything or fight it. It's like, you're just sweating some shit out. You know, you, your ass might explode a little bit. You're cleaning out some gut bacteria, whatever, whatever the deal is, but it's like a spring cleaning. I always trip on people who are like freaked out when they have diarrhea. I love diarrhea. I'm like, fuck, this is awesome. Like it feels pretty good. I love it. Yeah. I'm like, fuck, this is awesome. Yeah. Like it feels pretty good. I love it.

Yeah. I'm like, this is nice. Yeah. I said that online too. And people were like, you're crazy. But then I explained it and they're like, all right, I guess it is kind of cool. Yeah. I don't, I don't have, I don't have any, um, I don't have any pan.

I'm not like, oh my God, my poop has changed consistency. I'm sick. But there's people like that. Like, like they're concerned about every single shit. I'm like, what are you talking about? I mean, if you change your diet in like any way or, you know, it's just clean out sometimes. I read this one lady's book. She writes like nutrition stuff. I, I forget her name right now. She did the gaps diet, but she was like, if you ever get salmonella from eating a raw egg, like it's probably, she's like, if you get salmonella

and get sick from eating raw egg you'll probably like shit your ass off for two weeks but then you'll be healthier at the end like it's it's only cleaning you out if anything i'll buy it i like it yeah i was like all right are you exercising these days are you training at all you going to the gym no i'm not i'm not doing the gym stuff i'm doing um yeah that's her she's cool she i'm not doing the gym stuff i do i skateboard a little bit i play disc golf i go on hikes every day oh you're so disc golf damn fuck y'all you fall right into the stereotype son of a bitch i was thinking about it last night too i was like everybody son of a bitch people know i played people know i play disc golf without asking me. Oh my God. I'm judging you right now.

I should have known. Yeah. But now I'm the only disc golfer that doesn't smoke weed. So I don't even fit in with them. Oh man. Oh man. It's a tough world. That's another crazy thing.

I don't smoke weed ever either, but I love the smell of weed like if i'm somewhere and someone's smoking i'm like boy i have three little boys i'm like boy smell the ganja they're like it smells like shit i'm like taking in boys i love the smell i love the smell i love the smell of cigarettes still too like me too especially when someone first light one's up i'm like oh yeah people will be in my car like can i smoke in here i'm like please do i'm like i don't smoke anymore but like i still like i still like how it smells alcohol i i drank a lot but i still don't like how yeah i think alcohol smells like shit yeah i agree what about what about um uh i'm gonna come back to the exercise thing but

um but in the bad meat thing. Okay, exercise and bad meat. Coffee? No, no, no, no. Smell of cocaine? No. Oh, that shit's kind of crazy too. That shit just smells like burning plastic now if you smell it. I haven't in a long time.

I quit doing cocaine in high school. What a fucking disgusting smell that thing is um frisbee golf well fuck it i'll just ask you about exercise why aren't you exercising why don't you um why why don't you lift put yourself under uh tension why don't you lift some uh heavy weights i think it would you would get some more data points and like some composition shit that would intrigue you with the, uh, with the diet you're on. Like some quick adaptations. A lot of people tell me I should, every time I get into it, I do it for like a month and then stop. And that's just how I've been for many years. So I don't know. What movements do you like? Like, do you like the lat pull down machine or do you like running or like what movements do you like i did running i would run every day for like a couple

months in a row and then go on vacation for a week and then just stop yeah um when i was in la i had like a calisthenics park right next to our apartment i was doing like push-ups pull-ups and sit-ups and body weight squats. Like those four. Yeah. Those are awesome. Those are awesome. I was like, that covers pretty much everything. I'm not trying to go crazy, you know? Do you miss it?

I would think that like, do you miss sweating and getting that, that, um, you know, kind of that mental clarity and that free, like, you know, endorphin rush. In a way I kind of liked it but also just i mean going on like an hour and a half walk in florida you're gonna be sweating too yeah like i still sweat every day and like i just i like walking i don't know i'm just not the running just kind of started feeling shitty like my knees felt a little shittier that calisthenic park you went to um in la was it in um um was it was it near was it near beverly hills and it had those a-frame um steel um ring bars you know do you remember the name of the park i wonder if it's the park

whenever i would go to la i'd go fuck around in not the same one there's a bunch of them this one was just in like i was in marina del rey it's just on the side of like a busy road and then i would go to like venice uh like the muscle beach area had all like the pull-up bars and stuff too oh yeah okay uh hunter mcintyre high rocks world champion both in the doubles and the singles uh this guy looks like ernie from sesame street caleb is that true can we see oh oh i forget what ernie looks like i'm 90 sure this dude's a muppet yeah wow it's anything's possible he plays frisbee golf hunter anything's. I've been getting Bob Dylan a lot.

Tucker Carlson. Oh, I see Bob Dylan. Wow. I can see little Ernie. I can see little Ernie. Or he'd be more of a relative. A relative with a... Is Ernie a black guy?

Ernie seems like the black guy version of you, maybe. Yeah. The Islander version. We got similar hair. so i decided for the so i'm doing the chicken experiment for 100 days i feel like it's like that'll get a little bit long and boring for the viewers maybe but 100 days is like a good like i can just always be like i ate raw chicken for 100 days or like you know it just comes up in conversations people will be harder to disprove my theory after 100 days and also it starts to become hard for them

to say you got lucky yeah exactly because if you do like 25 they'll be like oh well that's not it's one in 25 that gets you so you're statistically fine but um i'll do 100 days look at this brett weinstein. Yeah, young Brett Weinstein. I see that. Wow. Okay. But I also decided for the 100 days, I'm not going to cut my hair at all and just like let it get like crazy fro style.

Just because the comments are funny. You know, people are like- Are you Jewish? Not Jewish. No. I'm like- Are you sure? No.

People have been asking me. I'm half Italian and half Irish. Oh, okay. I see that. That makes it it you that is what jews are is that true it's got all the ingredients as far as i've been told look at that oh my god brett weinstein hasn't looked that good in 20 years yeah you look like the young version of that holy shit look at you damn if that's where i'm going i'm fine with it hey can you grow facial hair john i can you can yeah i just i just don't like how it feels gotcha um with this diet um uh is your hair and i know you've been doing a long time but did you notice anything in your nails your hair anything like that people say my hair has been growing

faster but i'm not sure if that's true um It was possibly more gray before I started eating like liver and oysters. People say the copper deficiency causes that. Not quite sure if that's 100% sure, but that's like the main theory on gray hair out there. Wow, interesting. I was on plant-based for so long. I never ate any of that shit. I had gray hairs in high school.

You did? Yeah, I was young. Wow. My dad had, I forget, he was in Catholic school in fourth grade, and they kicked him out to shave his beard. Oh, wow. He had gray hair very young, too. When you were on Dr. Phil, your your hair you didn't even look like you it looked like your hair had been straightened or something how did

you do that that's the only time i've seen your hair like that did they style it for you they did all that shit to me wow they didn't they didn't tell me to bring anything so i i showed up there with like a backpack filled with eggs all I had in the backpack was eggs because I was like it would be funny if I could drink this on the show but they didn't let me do that and also some lady came out she wasn't very nice and she was like all right so let's see the outfits you brought let's see your outfit options I was like I didn't bring anything I just had on like a flannel you know and she was like all right we'll go get you some clothes and they just had on like a flannel, you know, and she was like, all right, we'll go get you some clothes. And they just brought me like this like extreme boomer outfit and then brought me up to this makeup lady. This lady does makeup on me and like does my hair.

She's like, she's like, your hair looks fine, but it's not TV ready or whatever. So she had to like, are you glad to be out of L.A.? L.A. was it's pretty stressful, but there's things I miss about it. I would go back if it wasn't so like stressfully expensive. What about the scene there? The people, when I think of LA, I think of like rude, unhappy, closed-minded. Superficial. like uh rude unhappy close-minded um yeah yeah superficial uh not willing to discuss things it's like it's like i i don't i don't enjoy people the the los angeles culture yeah there's a lot of ego there it's like i feel like every high school has like five extremely annoying people

that want to be on tv and all of them go there wow so it's just like that's the entire la but i just liked i would just skate down venice beach every day to the santa monica pier you know that's like it's just a beautiful part of the country kind of yeah it is aside from the people aside from and the crimes got got whacked too yeah it's pretty crazy they clean when i was there they cleaned up all like the venice beach homeless people and shit but oh they did do that really for the most part but i mean you still just you if you drive for like more than an hour a day you're gonna see somebody like shitting on the sidewalk or something right california baby yeah and then it doesn't rain and then it doesn't rain so the

shit's just there forever it just bakes there on the floor yeah that's okay but don't eat raw chicken just yeah just live amongst the human feces exactly hey dude um so yesterday i saw this thing so i i grew up in the bay area so people were always talking about chemtrails and and they were all the fucking wackadoodles like it was always someone who then as they walked away would be talking to themselves or they were just fucked up people. Yeah. So yesterday I see this lady on Instagram, a reading to like the Los Angeles or Santa Ana city council. And she's like, Hey, you, you're doing, um, weather modification on us. Yeah.

And she, and she, And she calls up the website. And holy fuck. So I went to the government website. Yeah, this thing. Oh, wow. I had no fucking idea that this is real. Yeah. We've had the most rain.

In my 51 years, we've had the most rain we've ever had the last two years. And they've been cloud seeding for the last two years in california they're doing weather modification programs i had no fucking idea they've been putting a silver oxide flying it over and i and i would and this is how stupid i was i would see the chemtrails all over and i'd be like no those aren't chemtrails those are there's got to be another explanation yeah there was a really good documentary back in the day. Like I probably saw it 10 or 15 years ago called what in the world are they spraying? And it was in Northern California,

like people with farms, they would go test like the heavy metals in the trees and be like, look at all these trees are all dying. And all these heavy metals are in the soil that aren't supposed to be. And yeah, just a bunch of stuff like that. They always called it geoengineering or cloud seeding. and all these heavy metals are in the soil that aren't supposed to be. And yeah, just a bunch of stuff like that. They always called it geoengineering or cloud seeding. They had clips from like Paul McCartney had like a birthday party.

Yeah. He just openly said on the news, he was like, yeah, we're going to have the military make sure that it doesn't rain and laugh. And like, he wasn't kidding, you know, they used to do it to make it uh rain in like the vietnam war to like flood them out and stuff i cannot um uh oh what uh it says chemtrails are still bs cloud seeding has existed for probably 100 years what's the difference between chem do you know what the difference between chemtrails and cloud isn't chemtrails just the the trail from this i just assumed it was the trail from the silver oxide yeah well some people say they're it's bs some people say contrails disappear chemtrails

stay and spread and turn into clouds well that's a government website saying that they've been doing it for years yeah there's a bunch of them there's like government reports and stuff like that like they even tell you it even says in there, the dangers of silver oxide, like they're not even hiding it. They're like, yeah, this shit's poisonous.

Yeah. But don't worry. We're not spraying enough for it to be poisons. Like there, there are planes spraying metals into the skies. And then after that, you can just say like, whether it's a good thing or a bad thing,

that's the argument. I cannot believe how much you wouldn't believe how long you've been out of california um a year and a couple months so were you here last winter yeah okay so you saw that rain it was nuts right was that the most rain you've ever seen in cal in your in your life in california yeah i heard it's been doing that again but we haven't been there yeah it's great dude it's it's basically been raining for a fucking month. I mean, I don't care. I like it because I have 100 fruit trees on the property, but people down the hill probably fucking hate it.

Yeah. Yeah, it's absolutely nuts. And the whole drought thing is crazy too. Bad meat. Tell me. So have you ever had any meat where you smelt it or you taste it and you're like hey i'm not eating this yeah it happened once it was just like i had ground lamb in the fridge for like like a week or something and i just went to eat it as normal and uh i ate like a decent amount i think i maybe put like kimchi or something on it that like, so I didn't really taste it too much. And then I just realized I was like, this smells bad.

This tastes like wrong. You know, it tasted this like some like cheese or something. So I was just like, throw that away and hope for the best. Nothing happened. And that was just probably, that was probably just bacteria growth, something growing on it and was just blooming. I think so. Yeah because uh then i've talked to some people like every raw chicken eater in the entire globe has dm'd my page at this point and some some guys were like yeah i ate raw chicken for 10 years i never i had a problem once i got really sick for like a week but like it smelled bad so they're like basically like if it doesn't smell bad you'll be fine i've had food poisoning uh probably four times in my life and um it was i can't ever

remember it was definitely never from raw meat it was like from fucking like mayonnaise or something yeah it was it was horrible but all times it was horrible it's like when you can't decide whether you run to the toilet and you're not sure if're going to vomit or your shit it's a bizarre situation to be in yeah people are telling i'm getting a lot of comments about it and then i always ask them i'm like but was it from raw chicken or was it from they're like no it was from this random food or like a snickers or kfc was undercooked yeah yeah yeah so it's like okay okay like i'm pretty sure we all have an equal chance of getting food poisoning, even though I'm eating this, you know. John, in all the content I've scoured that you've done, I've never seen you get on your high horse and preach.

Why haven't you done that? Why aren you like hey dipshits like this is the fucking way you guys i cannot like there you've written some stuff about now that you're clean that when you eat a liver you're having basically cocaine type effects on it you're you're actually describing you're you're now so pure that you actually describe that when you eat certain foods you feel like a little boy again you have that kind of energy and i've never heard anyone describe anything like that no drug no nothing you're like wow dude i have fucking little boy energy i'm fucking off the chart right now why aren't you just being like why haven't you turned into an activist so i i feel like i am in a way basically

i don't want to tell anyone what to do because i honestly don't care what anyone else does so my entire thing is just like this is what i'm doing and this is what it's making me feel like and like you can use that information for whatever you want um but I have gotten like, at least 2000 DMS of people like, sincerely thanking me for be like, I never knew that the grains were causing my back problems. And, you know, now I have raw milk in the morning and whatever. So but it's like, sincere thanks. Like, if it wasn't for your content being like funny and approachable, I would have just been like, fuck this guy. Cause if you just see somebody saying raw chicken is good for you, you're like, fuck that guy. Like why would you ever? And I'm not even the raw chicken thing is just like a

dangers of raw meat experiment. Um, it's not even like a nutrition experiment. Cause I'm, I tell people, I'm like, if you're going to eat raw meat, like eat beef or seafood or something like a chicken breast, isn't going to be as good as that but this is just like a how dangerous is it actually to eat raw meat like if you're a healthy person eating a healthy animal like is there any danger whatsoever i kind of don't think so but that's also what i'm testing yeah um i'm guessing that there's thousands and thousands millions of people out there who also their skin conditions have tortured them forever oh yeah and do you get a lot of those too like oh my god thank you so much i've had act high school was horrible for me i had the worst acne ever and

i follow your page now and it's gone yeah i get tons of that like i probably eating raw meat online is like you get as much hate as a person possibly can for doing that but then i just like you know every every couple hours you get somebody like thanking you in a way that's like really sincere from a stranger and you're like okay so this is all this is all worth it you know it's worth my time it takes what like three minutes a day to make a video and post it and piss everybody off. So I still do it. But yeah, the skin problems and people come into my DMs just like, hey, so if I eat raw

chicken, my skin will get better. And it's like, you can take a couple steps back. Like your skin is bad because you're eating toxic foods. steps back like your skin is bad because you're eating toxic foods you just cut down you know stop eating out and stop eating seed oils for a week and it'll start getting better and then you replace those foods with like meat fruit and vegetables whatever you want try to keep it clean and then if you want to start diving into experimenting with raw meat from there you can but i'm never like raw meat is the answer a lot of people do say say stuff like that and like i think it is i think it is yeah i think you're i think you're living proof of it i mean and i think that there's a bunch of

people but your experiment is really yeah i mean the it's like every every animal has a natural diet and like to have a natural diet it has to exist in nature so it's like every animal has a natural diet. And like to have a natural diet, it has to exist in nature. So it's like what exists in nature that we can eat. We can eat raw animals, raw fish, fruit, maybe. Maybe like some weird like dirty carrots once in a while or honey. But like cooking, we would be the only animal in the world that has a natural diet of cooked food, which is processed like it's a process. So having a natural diet of processed food just like isn't an equation that works.

So it's like we have to be able to eat raw shit. And if you don't want to because you like the taste of cooked food, that's fine. I eat both, you know, but I think there's nutritional benefits to raw. You can feel it digest better. Like it doesn't even feel like you ate anything. And I eat rock and cooked all the time, testing how they feel. And like last night I ate a pound of cooked ground beef and I'm like still full because I just feel like it takes longer to digest a partially destroyed food, you know?

Oh, why did you cook it? What was the, did you have someone over and you were accommodating them or well i ate a pound of raw ground beef earlier in the day i just put sour cream and hot sauce on it i was like look it's like a raw burrito bowl but then i just go off feeling sometimes i'm like you know what i just want like a hot hot meal that tastes good do you um do you ever cook it and then regret cooking it yeah because sometimes it just sometimes like cooking the animal fat just makes me feel like worse like yeah kind of like slimy i don't know what it is some people just have a

more difficult time digesting cooked animal fat i'm one of those people so like when i eat it raw feel completely clean like i ate a banana but sometimes if i eat like a bunch of like cooked fat i'll just feel sort of greasy like i like went to mcdonald's or something um uh clock uh well homo erectus was cooking food for a million years we evolved cooking food is that not natural i just want to say i don't know if that's true just because there's because there's still people just eating shit loads of fucking raw meat out in nature like like those inuits there's communities that never started cooking and they aren't monkeys so So, I mean, there's a lot of theories out there, but destroying some of the nutrients in your food versus not isn't going to make you evolve into a better animal. If anything, that would make you evolve into a worse animal.

You know? I don't think we should be wearing clothes either. Well, you're not, Jake, in your photo, so we get it. There are risks with everything, but E. coli 0157 can do a number on your kidneys, so not going to drink raw milk or raw meat, ground meats, more risk. Is this the status quo? Is this the propaganda? I mean, you can eat E. coli and be perfectly healthy.

Raw milk and raw meat are both extremely healthy. And ground meat, I mean, you can eat E. coli and be perfectly healthy. Raw milk and raw meat are both extremely healthy. And ground meat. I mean, I'm not, they say ground meat has more bacteria than a steak, but it's like, I'm not, bacteria isn't something that I'm worried about whatsoever. The only worry I have is not eating enough bacteria. You know, like I'd rather have more. Oh.

Yeah, it's interesting. I don't mean to attack you uh dm4 but like that's the this is the talk this is like you googled bacteria and this is like what it gave you and it's uh i mean there's those people that only eat raw meat like you saw like the nanette people and like just fresh kill like just fresh kill they're eating the hairs off the back of the animal and everything it's just like it's just wild they did they made a soup the the carcass of the animal was the bowl yeah like i'm family was dipping into it like it was fondue yeah i'm friends with uh people in the masai tribe and they dm me on instagram all the. And they live half the year on nothing

but raw milk and raw blood. And there's no medicine, no worry about bacteria or E. coli. They hunt, they make tires. I mean, they make sandals out of tires and they can hunt a lion with like a bow and arrow. They're like six feet five. They live to like 90 or a hundred years old, it's like how is that possible if all this bacteria is bad for human beings

on a side note this isn't going to make sense to you sorry john but for you those you out there go watch andrew hiller's latest video when he was filming with the uh quarterback of the chicago bears tyson bajan his workout partner is working out like in in like fucking this tiniest sandals ever and in running it's crazy it's uh and he and he said a really good time did you see that video Sousa no not just not that portion yeah it's like it's the crate it's like those like Indian sandals the tiniest sandals you've ever seen it's not wow hey are you consuming a shitload of water not a shitload i just drink drink when i'm thirsty i think uh the whole like gallon of water a day thing was made up by like pepsi to sell dasani or whatever yes yes yes one of those gatorade was a big part of that too yeah pepsi is a huge part of the drink they ate but i just

noticed that when i started eating just meat for a while i was i was consuming way more water and i was getting up in the if i ate a shitload of meat before i went to bed i would get up in the middle of the night to drink water yeah where are you putting a lot of salt on it uh the salt will do it to me it will okay maybe i was i don't i don't remember if i go low or no salt like i did a experiment a couple months ago where I did nothing but raw milk for two weeks wow like no drugs no food no water literally the only the only thing that went into my body at all was raw cow's milk for two weeks yeah and I felt great it was actually I felt better I think that was like my best feeling experiment so far like I just felt like perfectly clean and energized the whole time.

But you had to piss a lot because it's like just a lot of liquid. So that was the only annoying part. In Gandhi's autobiography, you know, he was completely plant based. He refused to kill an animal and he was on his deathbed. And he said, bring me raw milk. Really? And he drank a glass of raw milk and he was fucking golden. He broke his vow of never to eat animal and basically resurrected from the dead.

Yeah. I remember reading like queen Elizabeth would make sure that she had raw milk every morning. She lived to like 102 or something, but she probably also ate babies. So you never know. Hey, what about,

what about nuts? Um, it's not like a part of my diet i'm not like scared of them you know like i enjoy them if they're around uh dried dried fruit i'd rather have regular fruit right right i feel like i don't know just like keeping it close as close to natural as possible makes me feel better. This isn't to say like you have to eat raw meat to be healthy. We've seen plenty of people eating steak and potatoes forever and being like pretty healthy, you know, but there's benefits to it. I mean, people are like, act like I'm attacking them for eating cooked stuff, but like I enjoy and eat cooked stuff as well. I want to play you this, um, this video I saw yesterday.

How, how have you known, do you think more clearly than now? Do you think your perspective has maybe not even think more clearly that your perspective on the world has shifted a little bit as you? Yeah. Well, you can just, it's like all, all any animal has ever needed to be like perfectly healthy and happy. It was just like, what does a human need? Friends, maybe like a social life, a family, food from nature and like time outside. That's it. You know? So like you really don't need much to be happy. And if you have healthy food from nature, that's like the key. Cause if you're missing it, that's when a lot of the mental health problems come.

It's like you're eating too much bread or like you're just not getting what you're supposed to be getting eating. Nothing but artificial food. How would you define a mental health problem? What would that look like? How does that manifest? Just anything like depression. I don't know. Even like, I've seen tons of people being like, fixed of schizophrenia from eating like a keto meat based diet and stuff like that. There's like a Harvard doctor that has done a ton of work on that. So kind of perseverating on negative

thoughts. Is that mental illness? Yeah, I would say a bunch of stuff like that it's like i feel like it's like a an animal in the zoo when they just like run around in circles forever and like they're just there's something wrong like either it's from not being around not having a social life or just eating the wrong foods i think that's i think that's why a lot of people exercise too to get moments of freedom from their – perseverate, to repeat for a prolonged period of time. Yeah, just to keep – just get stuck on a thought. The world's a bad place. The world's a bad place. I mean you've seen parents like that. Are my kids in danger? Are my kids in danger? Are my kids in danger? Are my kids in danger?

And then they think they're going to fix it by getting their kid a cell phone, and now their kid's being fucking groomed to fucking suck some guy's dick in an alley and it's like wait what we're all supposed to be in a little bit of danger but like you can enjoy it i just realized that what's the what's the greek story where they say they get they tell the guy hey you're you're your son's gonna sleep with your wife so he sends his son off to kill his son he puts him in a mountain and leaves him there to die and then someone saves him and he ends up fucking his mom You know that story what story? well, no It's a someone's got it. Caleb's got it for you here Oedipus

Yeah, thank you Oedipus was born to the king and queen of Thebes Laius the prophet announced that the baby would grow up to kill his father and Bang his mom. Yeah, so he gets rid of the and bang his mom yeah so he gets rid of the fucking kid i just realized this he gets rid of the kid and then the kid obviously someone saves the kid and then comes back and he fucking kills him and bangs his uh mom but i i just described that the modern day oedipus thing you think that you think that you're getting your kid a cell phone for safety but you just lead your kid to danger you just gave the whole world the attachment of the child oh the oedipus complex okay the attachment of the child to the parent

of the opposite sex accompanied by envious and aggressive feelings towards the parents of the same sex yeah yeah like duh but that's just like duh god i fucking hate academia. That's like – I got my – I remember my anthropology instructor, Anthropology 101. He had his PhD in monkeys' behaviors, and his thesis was that they wrestle as baby monkeys so that they'll be good fighters when they're older. I'm like, oh, good job, buddy. Fantastic. I mean, if you practice wrestling with your siblings, you'll be a good fighter. Wow.

Oh, shit. Oh, you mean that you're going to be attracted and love your mom because you suck on her titties but you're going to be but your dad's banging her so you're gonna have a little some weird feelings about him oh impressive good job fuck really i love that one fucking douche very impressive yeah hey listen it's okay to love the fuck out of your mom don't let anyone get it twisted it's okay to fucking uh tussle with your dad. I love my kids. My kids tell me all the time, we love mom more than you. I'm like, good, that's healthy.

Okay, check this out. Check this out, John. Way, way off subject here, but let's probe into the mind of John. Here we go. So this video with me is Pete Holmes tells the most controversial joke on the planet. And it is hilarious. Let's watch it. Some people think God created the universe.. People think God created the universe.

Some people think nothing created the universe, which is the funniest guess. And the nothing people make fun of the God people. They say God doesn't exist. I'm like, okay, maybe. But you know what definitely doesn't exist? Nothing. That's the defining characteristic of nothing, is that it doesn't exist. So what are

we talking about? Either you think it's God, something you can't see, touch, taste, photograph, and science can't prove, or you think it's nothing, something you can't see, touch, taste, photograph, and science can't prove. We can all agree, if nothing, if your nothing sometimes spontaneously erupts into everything, that's a pretty magical nothing, you guys. And ask, ask the nothing people, what happens when you die? They'll tell you nothing. You go into nothing. I'm like, you mean you merge back with your creator? Aren't words fun? Yeah.

Aren't fucking words fun? John, is there a God? Like, is there life after death? Do we maintain awareness after death? I hope not, honestly. Oh, no. No, I'm just kidding no i mean season two damn we didn't we do enough but uh i think that the organized religions are kind of ways of controlling mass amounts of people i'm sure there are religions that are far more true that I'm not aware of. So I'm sure

there is some sort of creator or creation, you know. A lot of people like look to nature as like the god or whatever. I just think, you know, like in India, they'll say what is it reincarnation so like you're they're like you're poor and we own you because you did something bad in your last life and that's karma so that's kind of just like a scam that rich people used to make poor people feel like they deserve it so i'm not really quite sure about that the reincarnation thing i think yeah i forgot where i was going with it but i don't do you have any thoughts on on whether we have awareness after death yeah so i'll say i don't subscribe to any religion itself but i wouldn't be surprised i guess. I'm just not really sure. Do you dream? Yeah. Vivid, regular. Yeah. I mean, yeah, for sure. Once I like, they say when you quit weed, you start like dreaming again.

So I smoked from like 12 to like 32 and now I'm back and, uh, I dream probably every night and I wake up and I'm like, damn, that shit was kind of annoying. I wish I could have just slept. Just let me go unconscious. Yeah. Like, why did you have to make it that, you know, like I forget what it is pretty quickly after. But I'm just like, yeah, you really had to bring that shit up, you know. Hey, I appreciate what you do. Hey, I appreciate what you do. There's no better way to live your life than to experiment. And through what I would perceive you have is amazing discipline and habits and structure and self-awareness to manipulate yourself. And I appreciate you sharing it with the world. I think that's what Instagram is at its highest level should be used for. So thank you,'re, you're a wonderful, wonderful asset to humanity. Thanks for being you, John. Thank you, bro. I appreciate that you, you understand what I'm doing on there. Cause

not everybody does. Dude, you're a great human dude. You, you are a, a human laboratory and you're doing it to explore. Other people may want to go to space or the bottom of the ocean. You're doing a really important exploration at a time when humanity needs it more than ever. So thank you for being you, dude. And your demeanor and your don't change anything. You're not being a fucking douche nozzle like myself is wonderfully refreshing. I appreciate you. Appreciate you guys.

All right, dude. Anytime you're in Santa Cruz, California, you. I appreciate you guys. All right, dude. Anytime you're in Santa Cruz, California, you have a place to stay. And I've had, uh, 1800 guests. And I don't know if I've ever said that to any of them. I always want to hang out with them, but I've never offered them a place to sleep. You're always welcome at my house, dude. Appreciate it. We, we might move to Sacramento in a couple of years. So what you have a girl. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Girls are good. Agreed. Yeah, all right.

All right, brother. Have a good day. All right. Later, y'all. Ciao. Fuck, I love that dude. Yeah, he's a cool dude. I want to know where he works at the meme factory, the meme farm. He did that last time.

He worked at the meme farm last time. Yeah, I know. I forgot about that part. Does this unlock a little bit of a conspiracy about where memes come from though i don't know man i got suspicious after that for sure his own meme his own meme farm at the back at twitter or x i don't buy the whole thing that religion's made to manipulate people that's and here's the reason why that's like saying a stick is made to manipulate people okay yeah if i wave that thing at you it's made to manipulate people. And here's the reason why. That's like saying a stick is made to manipulate people. Okay, yeah, if I wave that thing at you, it's made to manipulate you.

Did he say religion was or like it is made to manipulate people into acting and behaving in a certain way in accordance? I don't think it's made for that. I think maybe it could be that. It's like a stick is what I'm saying. Like a stick could be like it's just it could be you could throw it in the fire and it could it could burn and keep us warm i could use it to go hunt food or i could use it to be like hey suza get back to fucking work motherfucker i'm fucking hit you with this yeah i'm beat you with this stick so i just um but but i mean i mean i it's not i'm not taking a dig at john either it was just a quick i just saw this and i today, I thought I really like the way this guy talked about nothing.

And I also encourage anyone to think about that, meditate or really think about that word nothing and also as in no thing. Like those are two different ideas. Right. Nothing and no thing. So, yeah, you can put a stick up your ass. Thank you, David. Yeah, you can fucking. thing so yeah you could put a stick up your ass thank you david yeah fucking john also just seems like a skeptic of everything hence his meat experiments right they go don't eat raw stuff

you're gonna get sick he's like who are you let's see what happens uh seban wants to take john's raw meat why why why why because you're gonna bring up his comment we're all gonna laugh and why Why? Why? Why? Why? Because you're going to bring up his comment. We're all going to laugh and talk about it. Why? Why? Why? Manipulation is a fundamental feature. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I like that. You have bad habits. We all – yeah, we all – we're all trying to manipulate things in order to get pussy. I mean like – Majority of order to get pussy. I mean, like… Majority of the time?

Yeah. I mean, yeah. Are you going to try raw chicken? I am. You are? Are you going to film it? You think I should? I was thinking about just going inside right now and just eating the egg with the shell.

Please film it. Okay. I would like to. just going inside right now and just eating the egg with the shell please film it okay i would like to members only members only become a member you can see savannah egg full egg egg shell and all and then you can see him poop it out they want to see the full life cycle i have i have to tear up the butthole when it comes out you know i i do have boundaries i thought i've had deuces that i've wanted to take pictures of They want to see the full life cycle. I have, I have, it doesn't tear up the butthole when it comes out. I, I do have boundaries. I've thought I've had deuces that I've wanted to take pictures of and post. And I've just like put the kibosh on it.

I've been like, you know, you've never done that. Have you done that before? You take a picture of it, send it to your friends. Yeah. There used to be a whole Twitter page. It was like a skater that did it.

It was like a popular skater. And his whole page was just the morning shit. He took, if I, if, if I, I would Mar I would Marvel. I would have this dilemma. it was like a popular skater and his whole page was just the morning shit he took if i if if i i would marvel i would marvel i would have this dilemma if i took a shit that was like when i used to eat like out all the time and i'd eat like these like like people who eat it um

chipotle restaurant like if you eat a chipotle you could take a shit in the morning where the head of it is gone in the in the drain hole and then it's also laying on the bowl. Those are crazy. You're just like, you're trying to wipe your ass and throw the toilet paper on the side so you can still look at it when you get up. What a log. You just can't even believe it.

Those are the best. Then you're just cleaned out. I found a page the other day called scenic scenic pisses and it's just like dudes taking a piss on top of mountains it's amazing it's like a beautiful background it's just a stream going yep it's fantastic it's got millions of followers too that's a great account holy smokes there you go maybe a million how about that let's see one no shit wow oh so that's like that guy like works on cell phone towers probably yeah that's why the outage yep exactly the outage oh wouldn't that be awesome got a volcano wow do people send them in or is it the same person i think they send them in

because it's a different stream pretty regularly like one guy he really he needs to get his shit checked because it was spraying all over the place yeah he wasn't circumcised he wasn't circumcised yeah oh boy it was hitting the the just the flap of skin just flapping around that's good wow that's definitely needs to get a shit shit multivitamin right now jesus christ multi that is multivitamin the comments must be crazy oh they're awesome it's so good post sex b what the fuck oh look look look look I don't know stream for it for a 10 hydration

0 to 10 stream overall 2.5 to 5 overall what's unweighted and weighted what's that mean that's funny maybe it's a base off a bell curve or something Wow Jesus yeah these are great all right oh my gosh god today's gonna be dude the ufc is gonna

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