The Sevan Podcast - Live call in w/ special guest Caity Henniger - ROGUE FITNESS

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

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did you hear that feedback no oh you're lucky still hearing it no but it was crazy what's up good morning good morning where is that your office yeah oh that's cool garage door for your office door that's cool. Garage door for your office door. That's nice. We had that in our original office, so we decided to bring it over when we came to the new building in 17. And when you look out that door, what do you see? We have a little museum piece out there and a map like the globe so we know where we want to go or what events we're doing and then uh there's a little sitting area and then bill is next door oh that's cool and i can see the map that map's cool like just a full full wall map yep you hurt

if you go south of like the equator you hurt your back or you get someone short that's right to point this shit what's up with you what time is it you had your coffee yet you see me it is good it's 10 o'clock yeah i just got through my morning ops meeting so we're good to go all right good so your brain's firing on all cylinders you're ready for all the trick questions sure i don't even know why i'm on here there's like news or something yeah there's a little bit of news but before we get to the news i want to ask you a question i tell this hey caleb good morning um i uh katie i tell story, and I want you to tell me if it's accurate, that when you won the CrossFit Games in 2008,

that one of the reasons why it was so good for you was because you were an elite-level basketball player and the workouts were all under four minutes, and that was the longest that you would ever spend on the court practicing your discipline, basketball. Is that true? Is there any accuracy to that? That is so false. I spent way more than four minutes practicing basketball. Sorry, I don't mean practicing, but I thought I had remembered asking you, and you said, hey, in basketball, the longest you'll be on the court at 100% exertion is four minutes.

And then you get some sort of like, I don't know, you know, uh, exertion is four minutes. And then you get some sort of like, I don't know, timeout is that, that is true. Yeah. I mean, it could go, it could go longer than that. It just depends on, on when the timeout's called. You could go 30 seconds and someone call a timeout or you could go, you know, uh, six or seven minutes. So four was just maybe when I heard that, or you told me that in passing, it was just some arbitrary thing, like on average basketball, usually there's a foul or something yeah and now it's uh kind of gotten to the point you know not maybe not back then I like the shorter workouts I still do but I've grown to love kind of the long kind of grind workouts where you know you can go 45 minutes

an hour or something like that why do you think that's evolving why do you think that changed I like longer workouts now too it's funny but I think it's evolving? Why do you think that changed? I like longer workouts now too. It's funny, but I think it's because I just like to go slower. Maybe it is going slower. I don't know. I don't know. I just, I've really transitioned into that. Definitely some mental clarity. I like to just work through things in my mind as I'm going through the workout, not really focusing on the workout. It just kind of gives me a space to figure some things out and usually come out a bit better so okay and i like that too so basically when you were training for basketball it was to get better at basketball and sometimes you work out now to to like you said to get clarity or to get inspiration or insight on things that your

brain's processing so you're on the assault bike or you're for on a run or something like that yeah i mean i would do that when i was. Like if I was stressed out or working through a problem, I would just go in the gym and shoot just because it was, it was put me at ease, you know, same thing with getting on a bike yesterday. I got on a bike for an hour and, you know, got ready for it's what I typically do on Sundays to get ready for the week. Oh, and when you say a bike, you went on an outdoor ride? No, it's, it was cold here.

It snowed over the weekend. I was on a biker. The C2 bike yeah and why do that instead of the um uh echo bike instead of the one where you where you pump your arms i always feel like i'm like wasting my time if i'm not pumping the arms i mean i did like i think like 30 miles or something yesterday so i didn't feel like i was wasting my time not to do that on the echo bike that would that would take a second and be a little bit more painful probably which is not what i was going for and then that and that was it you get off the bike and you're done for the day yeah that was just that's sundays for me it's either a long a bike here's here's another thing what about this as you get older i can't just do the bike

because because like i can't just i don't want to go in the gym and just do 10 pull-ups my my arms will feel like they'll tear out of their socket. But after I get off – after I'm warmed up on a bike, I'm like, oh, I could do 10 pull-ups easy right now. I'm lubed up. So don't you want to after you put in all that effort for warming – because you're old too, right? How old are you? I'm 42. Let's see.

I had to think about it. Yeah, that's how you know you're old. Don't you want to be like, okay, I'm warmed up. I might as well do something like five rounds of Cindy or something. No, I've been like five days on. So usually by Sundays I'm ready for a break. So an hour doing something like that, I'm good. But I usually get on for at least 10,000 meters or something like that before a workout trying to get my body.

I don't do any other warmup. I don't condone that, but it works for me. Yeah, it works for me too. And maybe that's why I'm broken, but. Where do you hurt? Where do you have a chronic issue? Do you have a spot? I mean, my, my left knee has always been an issue.

I've had seven surgeries during my playing career. So it doesn't really like the cold. It doesn't like some movements, but we get it warmed up and, and we can go. Oh, look at this. A dear Katie. I'll read this very slow. We get it warmed up, and we can go. Oh, look at this. Wad Zombie. A Dear Katie. I'll read this very slow.

Can we get floor access and first-class tickets for Sebon and his son for Rogue Scotland? Oh, that is – I really apologize. I apologize for the imposition of my – You definitely put someone up to that one. Definitely not. I'm turning red. And in 2009, you show up to the crossfit games as the champ and you pull out of the games what what happened i don't think i ever heard that story why you pulled i didn't um i got well i was on the cut line after the hill run yeah oh okay yeah it was rough yeah and. And so you got cut?

Yep. Oh, shit. I didn't know that. For some reason, I always thought you got injured. No, I was on the cut line after the hill run. I couldn't move my legs. I laid up on the top for a while and then got back down. But yeah, I was on the cut line after that. Everyone was laying down up there.

It was a mess. It was one of the brutal workouts for sure. And were you pissed? Yeah. I'm competitive, so anytime. I don't feel like it's my fault. I don't feel like I prepared like I should have. But anytime you're going into something to win, and I always think I can win at something,

then you're not going to be happy with the result. Let me ask you the most controversial question of the interview. How do you feel about cuts in general? It's sport. So you do. I love them as the storyteller because it adds tension throughout the weekend. Yeah, I think it adds tension. I think when you're doing it right, I think that all depends on what the event is or the sport.

But I truly feel it is part of sport. If you're trying to find the best at something, then yeah, there can be cuts. Oh, I don't know what this is. I hope this is an appropriate question. No one ask anything inappropriate. That's not inappropriate. Everyone be on your best behavior. Fergie Show.

Miss Katie. anything inappropriate. That's not inappropriate. Everyone doing their best behavior. Fergie show, uh, uh, miss Katie thoughts on Terry Todd and how he influenced rogue his inside powerlifting book sells for over $200. Who is that? Terry Todd, do you know who it is? So yeah, Terry Todd and Jan Todd, um, are really good friends of ours. Terry passed away a few years ago. Um, but he really, uh, helped start the sport of powerlifting and And then he helped start and develop World's Strongest Man and the Arnold Strongman Classic. But just the major player of the Iron Game and all his insights. So a lot of the documentaries that we've done, you'll see Terry as the historian and really the person guiding us through the documentary of the history of it. He was really influential to Bill and I. And obviously, you know, we miss him, but the sport misses him as well. So, yeah, inside powerlifting, if you can get your hands on one,

I mean, that was when powerlifting was first starting. I think he was the first guy to squat 500 600 and 700 pounds in his career if you see the one up there on the left um when when did you guys was it immediate when you guys started rogue um was it immediate that you guys started branching outside of crossfit to people like that since the barbell is no no i mean that that started really when we started to get involved with the arnold classic here in in Columbus, which is this weekend. We'd actually just started setting up this morning. Oh, geez.

So we support 12 sports for the Arnold. And obviously the strongman is the biggest one. We do the broadcast for that. We do the operational items for the event. But that's really when we got to know Terry and Jan. And that's also when we started to get into some of the other sports like usa uh the weightlifting and powerlifting and we got involved with ipf and the usa w and the um iwf i guess um throughout that that was probably uh i think 2012

we started to support the arnold but then really like 1450 we started to make specific items like the elephant deadlift uh dead deadlift bar and then the Wheel of Pain and some items like that. Hey, I forgot about that. I saw your trailer on Instagram with Hafthor. Yeah. What's the filmmaker's name there? His name's Todd? Todd Sampson, yeah.

Is he still with you guys? Absolutely. Yep. He's doing – or he did the one that's releasing today. I think it releases at noon. Half-Thor's Road to the Arnold. Oh, my God. And did he do the Scotland video too, the trailer for Scotland?

That was another guy. JP did that for us. Man, the videos are just killing. The Half-Thor one is absolutely beautiful. The one I saw on Instagram with him doing all the lifts. And then the Scotland video is amazing. By the way, I sincerely mean this. It is hard to do a voiceover.

It is hard not to sound like a goofball doing a voiceover. And your Scotland one was great. How many takes did that take you? One. Really? We did it three times, but I had it the first one. We just wanted to get it right. But I like to do it where I just am talking,

like because you see him cut to me in the video. I was actually saying that. And then we just wanted to get it right um but i like to do it where i just am talking like because you see him cut to me in the video i was actually saying that and then we just overlaid it did you have a script or you just that's just no that was just me i don't like to be i mean i'll read a script if i need to um i thought about it you know on my way over there but knew knew really what i wanted to say yeah it um it doesn't sound like a script that's why it's good and it's intense and the music's good and your voice just has like a build up to it. Great job. I was listening to – it's funny. Have you ever heard Rich's podcast where he reads – I mean I know that they do it on purpose now that they just take the piss out of him, but where he does the – he reads the sponsor. Yeah. the sponsor yeah yeah you had none of that in there it was so good uh so so that's uh march first that's in what is that that's in four days are there still tickets available for that can people go if people across the area the strongman was sold out uh the arnold definitely the expo

still has tickets left and then the strongman sold out they just released i think another 400 tickets um over the weekend um so it's going to be packed in there. I don't know the details of that event, but does Hafthor compete in the event, or does he just go there and put on a – he just tries to set a new deadlift record every year or something? No, this is actually his first year back – first event back in, I think, over two years. So he's coming back. Martins Lises, who's also won the Arnold. He's won the Rogue Invitational.

He's coming back after a year off. And then you have Mitchell Hooper, who's really dominating the sport right now. He'll be there. So it's really, you know, I think maybe one of the best lineups that they've had. So it's going to be interesting to see who ends up on the podium. The Martins guy seems really cool.

You guys did a video on him too. He seems like a really down to earth, fun guy. Yeah. He's awesome. Hey, all those guys are, I mean, they're, they're all great. I mean, you can scroll through that whole list and we, you know, I don't know the amateur very well, but everybody else on that list, like they've been at the invitational, they've been at the Arnold and you know, they're, they're fun to be around. They they look really imposing, but they're not, you know,

they like to have fun and have good conversation. So I think that's anybody that wants to be good at their craft and wants to talk about it. It's always interesting to be around. This Mitchell Cooper guy, is he really, I don't know the sport, but is he really, when you say dominating, he's really, is he like like best ever dominating or just dominating his group? I wouldn't, I wouldn't say best ever. He probably had the best year, you know, one of the best years probably in history last year he won the arnold he won the

invitational he won world's strongest man and i believe he won giants live um i think he won four four of his five events last year so i mean he's he's in a really good spot he was running marathons like four years ago or something like that i mean just kind of a crazy story as he got into Strongman. And this guy, has this guy of all the Strongman embraced CrossFit the most? I feel like I see him on the most crossover videos. I feel like I've seen him more. I see him in the, like at Wadapalooza, I saw him on the stage in the background cheering people on.

I feel like I see him everywhere. Yeah, I think, I definitely think he's embraced it. I wouldn't say he's the only one because i think all of those guys if you look at it you know hackthor has a really good relationship with annie and katrin and so i think they trade stories and trade training you know how obviously you know there's not there's some crossover but not all but i think you know if you look at like the log event i know that a lot of the crossfitters went to the strong man to ask them tips and you can see them in the warmup room trying to help them, which I always think is really cool. But if you look at Hooper, he's trying to get better at his jerk for the axle and the log press,

which I think is really interesting. So if you saw him at water Palooza, he was actually in the warmup area, um, working on his, uh, jerk technique, um, which you don't see very often just because those guys aren't as mobile. God, here's another question I don't want to read to you. Augustus Link. Hi, Katie. Can we get a Sebon code for Rogue? You guys.

Someone's in our house. You put all these people up to it. I'm telling you I did not. Not for a discount or anything. Oh, okay. This is good. Okay, it's taking a twist. Could be fun just to track the Sebon podcast listeners' purchases at the end of the year.

Bill and Katie have been very, very generous to me before and talked to me about doing affiliate stuff. And thank you. Okay. I'm going to spend that $5 wisely. Thank you. Scotland. So the Rogue Invitational, is it going to be an invitational this year is it correct to call it an invitational um and uh you're moving to scotland that seems like biting off like i got stressed out for you yeah well last year being outside and in the rain and

the elements you know i think all what we knew um you know, we had been in Austin for three years. We knew it was going to move. We didn't know if it would move within the city, within the state, or, you know, wherever. And then when the games announced they were coming to Fort Worth, we thought, okay, this is a good time to move so that we don't have two kind of back-to-back events in the same area. And we've wanted to go somewhere overseas and just thought it was the right timing. So we're going to be there for a couple of years

and we're really excited. I'm really excited. The venue is great. It's got a, it's an expo hall. It opened at 19th. So it's new, it's beautiful. It's beautiful, but it has an arena. So it's not just like this expo hall you go into.

So you go in, it kind of looks like that. And, but it has an arena. So it's not just like this Expo hall you go into. So you go in, it kind of looks like that. And then, uh, as you turn right, you enter into a 10,000 seat arena, um, which is really cool in the round, like an amphitheater. Yeah, it's kinda, um, it's got a horseshoe and then you can add seating behind it. It just depends on how we're going to set up the floor. I don't think we'll get to 10,000 seats. Cause I think we want to utilize the floor to be able to, um,

have some of our items in there for both CrossFit and Strongman for the event but it was tough coming off last year I mean being out in the rain like ideally we'd like to be outside for the event but that's just after going through what we went through and the athletes and all the spectators last year we knew we did not want to do that so the majority of the event is going to be indoors just so that we know that we can put on a good show and not have to worry about that it's funny i don't remember the i didn't remember the rain until you said it um eaton beaver uh good morning katie i'm rocking the rogue crocs awesome um uh when you saw water please

we have the feedback oh there we go went away maybe one of your earpieces you mean to take them out uh it went away again okay is that her caleb or me is that it's katie oh good i don't know what that is yeah it must not be the headphones okay you can put those back in we'll just have to deal with it I don't know what that is I'm glad it went away though hey can you hear me

yeah when you saw Waterpalooza I know Misery likes company when you saw them have to deal with the rain, were you excited? Were you like, yeah? No, not at all. It was so bad. I felt for them because it's still – like you said, you don't remember the rain.

I have not gotten over the rain. There was a while where I didn't even want to talk about the Invitational because it was just so stressful trying to figure out what – Give me an example of something that was just – the rain came the rain came and it was just a damn hey could you log out and log back in we got a serious problem yeah thank you sorry guys oh yeah good i'm glad it is her what do you think that is i've never heard that almost 2 000 shows i've never heard that. Almost 2,000 shows, I've never heard that. I don't know. Maybe it's the Bluetooth logging in or something. I have no idea. Do you guys hear that?

Do the listeners hear that? Or is it just me? It's crazy loud. Heidi said it sounded like a coffee grinder, so she must hear it. Okay. Okay, yeah. Okay, good. Yeah, I didn't know what to say it sounded like.

It does sound exactly like a coffee grinder. That's exactly what it sounds like. Okay. Let's see. Is that any better? Yeah. Someone described it perfectly. Heidi Krum described it as a – it sounds like you're grinding coffee beans. Tell me one of the moments where it was just like, holy shit, I can't believe this is happening. And do you see the cloud from far away? Because I know it's different than California.

In California, it's like the whole cloud is covered. But in Texas, is it like, oh shit, you see the dark cloud coming? In Texas, there was a couple systems that went through and just separated us. So it was raining like two miles away. And then it just didn't come to us. But, you know, Danny Rogers and I spent so much time looking at radars that like now I don't even believe a radar because it would rain when it wasn't supposed to rain. And then it would not rain when we thought we were going to get hit. But, you know, Sunday morning was tough because it was I think seven, we tested a workout in the morning at like 645.

Because we knew that there was going to be weather and it was like 70 degrees. And then this front came in and by 10 AM it was 40 and it was raining. And at that point it was raining so much that I was just like, well, you know, what are we going to do? We knew we were probably going to move the event up into the concourse, but that was just, I mean, that was kind of like that took the cake outside of the concourse but that was just i mean that was kind of like that took the cake outside of the first day when there was hip height uh water in the dugouts where we were supposed to do all our scoring and broadcast that was the first day i mean the uh on thursday you couldn't even see the field in the morning wow yeah so that kind of started the stress so so

just a low level panic the whole time it's It's the hardest. It's the most stressful thing, one of the most stressful things I've done. And then obviously the team, the athletes, everybody felt it. There wasn't someone that didn't feel it that was on site for sure. Ernie Garza, along with Jake and Jan, anyway, we can help volunteer for Scotland. Oh, I like this, offering things to Katie. This is better. Kinyon, anyway, we can help volunteer for Scotland. Oh, I like this. Offering things to Katie.

This is better. Or apply to be part of the team. Keep killing it. Hope to grow a pair and introduce myself next time I see y'all. Oh, that's awesome. Is there a place on the Rogue website for where people can sign up to be volunteers? We're going to have that up hopefully in the next month. We'll have that up for signups.

Okay. And you guys take a lot of volunteers? Don't hesitate, Ernie. You can come introduce yourself anytime. No, she's scary. Don't, Ernie. No, don't listen to Sevan. He's scared of me. You don't have to be. Use your best judgment, Ernie. She's scary. Do you guys take a lot of volunteers? We'll see what we're going to do this year. I think last year we had over 200.

Yeah. I mean, like all the help that we couldn't, as cliche as it is to say, we could not run the event without the volunteers. I mean, they are what makes that event go, and they do a kick-ass job and have been great. We have people that have been there all five years, and I think that's really cool that they keep coming back because it's a lot of work. And you said you're going to do Scotland multiple years. Mm-hmm. Does that mean at least two? At least two. And that makes me feel a little less stressed out because then at least you can leverage the first

year, the second year. And that's, you know, we could do it a different city every year, but just for the team and the operation of it, I really like to be in a venue multiple years, just because you, the first year you're still figuring it out and the second year can be better and then year three you know like at dell diamond even with the weather and i think that's what helped us last year with the weather is it was year three so we knew everything that that venue could do and we knew where we could go and and pivot if we needed to and obviously with a new venue you're not going to have that familiarity um so yeah we'd like to be there at least two years um and maybe stay over there um after that i don't, we'd like to be there at least two years and maybe stay over there. After that, I don't know. I would like to bring it back here as well.

What's the city in Scotland? Aberdeen. Aberdeen. And can you tell me the origin story of that in no details too much, like why you decided to leave, how you chose Scotland? I think knowing where that we weren't going to be in Austin, we started to look at a couple cities here in the US. We actually looked at bringing it back here to Columbus and tying it into the first year here. But how we have evolved here at Rogue, we couldn't have it indoors. We couldn't have it in our warehouse anymore. There's too much stuff in here now.

And then we just really started about taking it to Europe. And I was actually going on a trip there in December. So I decided to look at a few venues in London or around London. And then I knew I was going up to visit Rob Lawson, who runs CrossFit Aberdeen up in Aberdeen and knew about the P&J and said, you know, hey, why don't we just run through there? What's the P&J? What's that? That's the venue, P&J Live. How did you know about it uh rob rob had mentioned it uh just as we had started uh there's a there's a there was a place

in glasgow there was a place in leeds um and then and then a few in london that we looked at um but within five minutes of being in this spot i was like this is it i want to come here so we knew if we could make the contract work um and make it work out, then we were going to go there. So it was pretty quick. So I was there early December. And then we got the deal done a couple of weeks ago. And it looks beautiful and clean. It looks very, yeah. Yeah. They really take care of it. And it's in a good area. We did a documentary a few years ago called Stone Land. So there is a rich history of stone lifting in Scotland. So tying it into the strongman community and the Highland Games, it's about an hour from Braemar. They have a huge

Highland Games there every summer in August. So just tying all of that together. We really like that storyline. We think it's going to be fun, you know, in November in Scotland, it's probably going to be chilly and it's probably going to rain at some point um but it's beautiful there you can see from some of the shots in the video that's all within kind of like a 20 minute um radius of downtown aberdeen and and i i get stressed out thinking of the uh logistics when do you start moving what is the Rogue show there? So we've already started. I actually started. Yeah. Like we knew we wanted to go there, like I said, in December.

So I'd already started that with some of the internal team of, of what it's going to take. You know, we obviously will have to ship the gear earlier than just putting stuff on trailers. It takes two days to get to Texas. So just thinking ahead of when we need to have workouts complete, when we need to have the equipment complete, and then what it's going to take to pull off the broadcast, uh, as well. Um, so we're already starting on that. I don't want to be behind. I'd like to have all that kind of shored up by early summer, uh, so that we just, um, kind of go into the fall with, with a perfect plan or a plan, not perfect. Cause it's not

going to be perfect. Is it it like that you load a bunch of stuff up in um containers you put it on a boat it goes over the sea it gets there and then someone pulls it out and with a sheet of paper and takes inventory and like oh shit one of the one of the containers didn't show and yeah i mean that's probably one of the most stressful parts even with uh let's say with um semi trailers here that's one of the most stressful parts of running an event for us is did the equipment make it? We've had trucks, you know, when we were supporting some of the CrossFit stuff get like stolen or rerouted. We had stuff taken off some of our trailers. We've had drivers go,

like they won't communicate for 12 to 16 hours, which gives, you know, I don't have any more, I don't need any more gray hair, but that's definitely one of the most stressful parts of it outside of just running the event. You've had stuff stolen. Have you ever had a truck crash? No. No, okay. Knock on wood. Yeah.

Oh, here we go. Poor Katie. Katie, this show is wild. Braylon Tenor, fitness competitor. Good morning, Braylon. Katie, will show is wild. Braylon Tenor, fitness competitor. Good morning, Braylon. Katie, will you waive my – I didn't put anyone up to any of these. Will you waive my entry fee in exchange for exposure from my presence? Otherwise, my agent will charge you $100 an hour.

Thank you. I can't wait to win. I'd have to see your resume, and then maybe we'll just charge you the $100 an hour. Charge you, Braylon. Send it over, Braylon. Katie at Rogue. All right. So it'll all get there. You'll set it up, and then there'll be a pretty significant presence. Then when the show's over, you pack all that stuff up, you put it in a warehouse, and it's ready for next year. all that stuff up, you put it in a warehouse and it's, and it's ready for next year. Yeah.

And, and I guess if you're over there with all that stuff anyway, I guess that there's a chance, I guess it gets your brain thinking also that, well, we already got the equipment over the pond. Maybe now we take it to a mainland Europe or something. It opens up maybe like it's a little, it's one step closer to something over there. Well, we already have a European operation. So, we're based out of Finland, the company is, and then our distribution center is in Antwerp. So, yeah, there may be a chance that we take some of that stuff to the warehouse in Antwerp, but most likely the majority of it will come back here. The invitational process will be pretty much the same. Is that the plan? That's the way that event looks?

Yeah, I think that's the plan. I know there was a lot of talk of who gets invited, how they get invited. And Bill and I and the team have talked a lot about what that system looks like and can we come up with a more transparent either qualification or a way to show what we're looking at along the way. Like what events they're doing. Is it a point system? Is it a qualification system? What does that look like? So people have more transparency into what we look like because everyone thinks it's just based off the games.

And that is true to an extent, but that's not the only way that you get into it. So maybe we have something like- It's not just the top. This is what I always thought it was. In general, top 15 from the men and women are invited from the games. And then there's a online competitive competition for the remaining five spots. And it works out a little bit like that. But if you look at that, the top 15, if I went to like a water blues or another event and watch that, it's probably going to be the top five to 10 at least, right. That are the same. So it's kind of them building their resume. Right. And, um, and then you obviously have people that if they decline,

then we kind of go to the next one. And then, um, you know, maybe it's to the point where we don't want to invite anyone more and we, we take the cue and we value that. So maybe we were gonna, we were set on having five people. Maybe we take seven people from the queue because the queue has gotten pretty competitive over the years as well, just with the people that either, you know, maybe they had to sit out the games or they were injured.

So this is, you know, if you look at like Ricky Gerard or Travis Mayer, they had to use the queue to actually get in because they didn't compete at the games. Oh, okay. Okay. And I like the online qualifier because one year, it gives us a chance to see people whose names we maybe didn't recognize who are really good. I think it was either last year or the year before Jorge Fernandez went. Yep. And that was really cool seeing him there.

And every year, there's like one or two people you're like, wow, they're going to get in the mix with these people. Didn't Kerstetter do her first professional? Yeah. Her adult was there. Yeah, that was wild too. Yeah. And this year, I think Victor Hoffer made it in from the queue and ended up winning one of the events and you know, was a good, nice little competition for him. But if we

didn't have that qualification system, then it would really just be, you know, the 20 or so athletes you just saw in August. And I like to mix it up a bit. I think it's really good for the sport to have others in and not just the same ones. Yes, it is an invitational and we want the top people to be there, but we also want to give those up-and-comers a chance to be in as well. So we know the location. We generally know how people get in there, that it will be an invitational. It will be the best people with some spots for some other people to find their way in. Is there any other stuff that you know already?

Do we know the dates? November 8th through the 10th. November 8th through the 10th. November 8th through the 10th. And how about you personally? Do you know any of the workouts already? I know some elements that we would like to do of the workouts, but I don't have those. We'll probably, Josh, Chris, and I'll start talking about that. Hopefully next month, we'll get the queue done first and then uh start building toward uh the invitational november i would like to have that done you know by the summer so again we make sure we have all the equipment that we need um but i don't like to to change up workouts um very close to the event

i know we had to last year because of the weather um that's obviously not ideal either uh greg c katie have you watched behind the scenes 2024 have you built the low on low-end custom bar yet well let's start with that have you watched the behind the scenes yes i have watched behind the scenes oh good job i can't believe you have free time for that you just watch that when you're sitting on the toilet on your phone or uh mix it in when i'm uh doing some work uh you know have it in the background the background. You did a good job on that. Thank you. I'll give you a star.

Patrick Rios. Thank you, Patrick. Have you built the Lowen custom bar yet? Oh, Ariel Lowen has talked about a bar that she used that you guys liked. Are you guys building it? Yeah, we hope to. Yeah, we'd definitely like to work with her and build it. It was the year that we did the log. She didn't have access to a log, so she had a bar built that kind of mimics a log, but it's a barbell.

So yeah, hopefully we'll be able to do that with her and get that released here this year at some point. Is there a crazy list of just shit you want to do that's just like, man, we want to make the the rogue yo-yo and we want to make this bar and there's just a list of stuff and it's like yeah we have our own list and then we have a suggestion box on the website where anyone can submit um an idea so we get ideas every day uh some of those have come uh come become products on our site um others it's just good to hear how people are training um and then you yeah, it is. It's what's best for us because obviously we still have to run the company, right? And it still has to – it can't shut down operations just to do a new product.

But we've definitely gotten some really good ideas out of this and really good customer feedback as well. Okay, so there – but there's an endless list. Oh, good job. Hey, those come directly to me, so I'll make sure I reply to this one. And then finally, a great location for Rogue, Katie, with the invitational. Best of luck. Thanks for coming on the show. Oh, thank you, Greg. That's nice. Jody Lynn, wow, I'm rich. Show's over. Thank you. Forget about Sevan and his floor access. All right, I don't like that. It's a rough start.

Can I please interview for a job with Rogue designing your comp and home gym layouts? I am well-versed in CAD gym equipment and Rogue Fitness. Thanks, Katie. Jodi Lynn, can she apply for a job? Yeah, there's jobs at RogueFitness.com. Send your resume. Hey, and now you know that the suggestions come straight to Katie, so you know how to get directly to her. So there you go. There are other people on the email, so don't send me anything ridiculous. Send something ridiculous, please. Use a fake name.

Scott Schweitzer, Clydesdale Media. Jody Lynn, shoot that shot. Yeah, good job. I'm impressed. Good morning, Jethro good morning all right good morning the the um so what are we talking about oh suggestions for equipment uh these um the event in scotland uh november um is it will always be that date too is that is that the date do you guys i always be that date too? Is that the date? I'm assuming that date is spaced out particularly around the fact that the games, you think, okay, this gives the games athletes enough time to recover and prep back up. Is that the whole? Yeah, you know, we know they like to take some time off. We were in May, and then when the season changed a bit,

we ended up going to October, and that's where we've been the last three years. So for this, you know, yeah, November, that November, early November-ish or whenever it's going to work for that second year, we're in that slot. We don't plan on moving that. And you say you wanted to go inside. You got a little deep wound from the rain. And you want to go inside. a deep, deep wound from the rain and you want to go inside, will there be anything that you think that being inside that you will be like,

okay, I missed the outside. And after two years, you'll forget about the wound and go back outside. Is there anything that like you can't do that makes you think, oh shoot, those are the benefits of being outside. I mean, I really enjoy an outdoor event, so it's, it's not, you know, it's, but it's what's best for the event to go inside. So yeah, you're going to lose a little bit, but we hope that we can set up the arena to be just as cool and to do fun stuff and some new stuff that it doesn't feel like a typical indoor show. And, you know, look, we're probably going to go outside at some point. You know, we're going to do something, whether it's around the venue, around the area. I think probably for both Strongman and CrossFit, we'll do something that's going to be outside.

When Wadapalooza two years ago introduced this thing where they did teams and individuals separately so you could do both, and then they realized, I think, I'm making this up kind of, but they realized that they over-programmed both of them if you wanted could do both and then they realized i think i'm making this up kind of but they realized that they over program both of them if you wanted to do both so then this year they lighten the load a little bit so to try to accommodate so the athletes could do both when you make your event do you think of it in that type of way like hey they just came from the games and they just had a beat down or do you do you think okay we want do you want is there a reputation you're trying to garner with your event hey we want this to be the hardest event or the heaviest event or is there anything no we want to we don't want to we just want it to

be the best competition for the athletes so we know coming off the games and they've probably taken at least a month off they're probably not going to be in that peak not probably they're not going to be in that peak shape they were for August or for the games. And, but they're still really, really fit individuals and they're really talented individuals and they're, they're really strong. So obviously, you know, we like to do some of the, you know, maybe heavier elements that some of the other events wouldn't do. And we've taken feedback from athletes over the years and we've changed a bit how we program, but I think we have a good mix between Josh, Chris and I of where we want to be and how it flows within the weekend you know we don't always get it right but we learn each year and and take it into the following

and I'm guessing there seems to be this element of you want maybe Rogue to be fun for the athletes and then also to really be able to showcase what they can do. Yeah, it's about the athletes. So we want to put them in a position where like, if they go out and they do their thing, it's going to elevate them and they're going to have a good time, you know, trying to set up something that's custom to the area. You know, the one year we did cowboy hats last year, we did guitars. You know, I'm sure we'll do something in Scotland just to make it unique for them when they come on site, that they feel like a part of the event and that um you know we provide uh an experience that they they aren't going to get you know somewhere else just making it

different um and making it fun for them it doesn't have to be all about the competition i know they're there to win and i know they're there to compete but where we can making it relaxed and, and that they can have a good time. You, do you guys, you guys specifically sponsor athletes? Yep. And when you sponsor athletes, does that mean that like you carry their shirt? What, what does that mean that you sponsor athletes? Oh, we, you know, there can be a mix of things within their contract. Um, you know, but obviously using our equipment and they get access to equipment from us and stipends in that sense. They come in and do some appearances for us like the Arnold. We'll have athletes in town here. And really just for us, if they go represent themselves,

then they're representing our brand. And I think that's what we're looking for. You know, we watch people over a period of months or years or whatever that is to see how they interact with humans like we want good people on the team as well not just good athletes does anyone train at road do any of the athletes train at road do you have any people who train there like the way the ufc has the pi do you guys i know you guys have an amazing facility no no i mean if they come in like if they're in here for the weekend for the arnold they'll they'll train here at hq but we don't have anyone that trains here full-time. Full-time, okay.

Wadzombie, Dear Katie, I like that. Do you have any plans of adding the Heat One app to Rogue? It makes it a lot more fun for us watching from home. Are you familiar with what the Heat One app is? I'm not. Okay. I'm not. Okay. It's basically – it's sort of a fantasy app, and this guy Tyler Watkins made it. And basically, like for Rogue, it would pop up on his app.

Wadapalooza used it, and then people from home can play and pick, and then you can see where you rank on how your picks were and whatnot like that. All right. I'll definitely take a look at it. Okay. I'll send you a link. It's cool. It's cool. We're doing this event. All right. I'll definitely. Taylor better bring it. Yeah. You think he has any chance of beating Colton or Jason or Dallin? He's doing a lot of talking, isn't he?

Yeah, he is doing. He's doing a lot of talking, yes. Katie, what shoes are you wearing right now? I'm wearing some Chucks. Oh, okay. Okay. And are those your go-to work shoes every day? Well, I have boots for when I go on the floor., but yeah, I'm either in Vans or Chucks.

You change your shoes in the middle of the day? Yeah. God, if I put Chucks on, I wouldn't take them off until they were off. They're kind of a pain to put on, right? Are they high tops? No, they're lows. Oh, okay. I don't tie my shoes very tight, so they're pretty easy to get on and off. On and off. On and off. All right.

Well, thank you for coming on. Great seeing you. Yeah, I'm pumped. You too. Congratulations on Scotland. I'm a little stressed out for you, but I feel – Thank you. I'm stressed out too, but hopefully it's going to be a good event, and we're excited to bring it to Scotland and really broadcast it to the world too.

Yeah. Oh, I want to ask you about that, but I am a little more relaxed after talking to you. You seem like usual, completely in control. Tell me about the broadcast. So last year you guys had a special broadcast that people could pay a few dollars for. And then there was a table and you could see like Josh Bridges chopping it

up with people. Are you guys going to do that again? Was that a success? Absolutely. Yeah. We really loved it. We're doing a similar thing. It won't be behind the paywall for the Arnold, but we're going to take that tailgate show, a more relaxed show.

And that's actually how we're going to – a similar style to what we're going to do for the Arnold Strongman this weekend. Any people we know? Is Jason Kalipa going to be there? Any people we know? No, it's – well, Sean Woodland will be the play-by-play. And then Jerry Pritchett is going to be the color for the – Oh, okay, because it's Strongman. Okay.

Does CrossFit do an event at the Arnold? No, they have a community event. Okay, okay. It's affiliated with CrossFit Inc.? No, no. No, okay. All right, girl. Well, thank you.

Great having you on. Great talking to you. Thank you. Yeah, anytime. See you guys. I'm getting more and more comfortable around you. Thank you. Oh, yeah, yeah. Bye. Bye.

There you go. Damn, big numbers for Katie. Katie Henninger. People like her. She's cool. What does this mean? Will Bill be wearing a kilt? I thought he said a kit. That's a good question. Maybe that's what they'll give the athletes. They'll just all get them sized for a kilt with the little fanny bag in the front. Dude, you know it. You just nailed it. That would be sick.

You just nailed it. Hey, and someone will wear it out there for the comp too. They have to, right? Yeah. If Noah was there, he would for sure wear it out there. Big time. Or Ronnie Teasdale. Oh time. Or Ronnie Teasdale. Oh, for sure Ronnie Teasdale.

Judy Reed. Bye, Katie. Hey, can you tell that I'm a mess? No, not really. My sinuses. Holy shit. If that's what you consider a mess, then yes, I can tell. I am a mess.

I walked past Katie at Rogue last year. And she's like, hi, Caleb. And I said, hi, ma'am. I panicked. She's got some presence. Pat Lang, stoked for Friday night. Yeah, me too, dude. I'll tell you what, I'm nervous as shit.

I don't know why. I'm nervous as shit. I'm excited for Thursday. I had a lot of fun on the show last night. I haven't done a show like that. We did the Heat 1 app, but I was on a show with all the guys, like a CrossFit Games Update show. And I had a lot of fun with Chase and Tyler and John.

I forgot how fun that is. You going to bring that back after the open? Yeah, totally. Yeah, totally. Totally, totally, totally. With the new – I got to figure out my time. My time is all – I need to figure out how I'm going to allocate my time to all these different things that I have my hands in.

There's this – hiller's been helping me with the length of videos for the new shows he's like hey you have to stay within this time and this time and then look at these analytics and then release it at this time and compare it to this time so he's he's been walking me through some of that stuff and last night i um i made a new show late and it was the latest one I've ever made. And basically the conventional wisdom coming from Hiller is don't release it late at night because those are always the shitty shows. So release it between 12 and 2, and you can get all the people from the day and then get the ones left over in the morning when they wake up. So last night I released it really late, the latest one I've ever released. But what's interesting is it did really well. And one of the comments was like, oh, it's great to have this so early, meaning I released it so late that maybe they thought it was early. early this morning yeah but also the the title of that one is i think did uh did t to me break

her wrist or something so now i'm wondering maybe if it's the title yeah maybe hey go ahead go ahead i think i think you're releasing it last night give somebody there's people in the midwest and like the east coast something to watch before the show starts oh because they're three hours ahead of you right so if they release it late like they're in they're asleep by the time you release it and then when they i've seen i'm not saying i know numerically how many people watch it from the east coast but i think quite a few people do and so when they wake up in the morning they have something to watch between the time they wake up and the time that this show starts. Will you pull up that new show I released last night? There's a comment there I want to read you and get your feedback on.

She's wearing – my son hurt his thumb in jiu-jitsu, and I got him this – I got him basically the same thing she's wearing. He didn't like it. He said it was constricting his wrist or something. Maybe I put it on too tight or something. Excuse me, but she's wearing something very similar to that, and someone commented – keep going. I just realized someone's not only interrupts. I'm a master and don't see someone. Thanks for there's a cool man. No, this is early news. I'm with Jason masters. Nobody's interested. Okay, here, listen to this. T is wearing a brace most commonly for carpal tunnel symptoms. Carpal tunnel syndrome is compressed of the median nerve and relatively benign condition that should have zero impact on our ability to compete. median nerve and relatively benign condition that should have zero impact on her ability to compete ultimately surgical decompression is a quick procedure that people recover from within one to two weeks i suspect he is waiting for the off season to address provided uh conservative

treatment wrist brace does not address the issue is that that's just a guess right like that thing you don't see that thing and just know right away it's carpal tunnel do you yeah i wouldn't say that you would know that i mean it's possible she's wearing the thing that you always see like uh the people at the checkout line the people who are scanning your shit what do they call the cashiers oh yeah yeah yeah she's wearing something like that and i think i mean if if she was at a cash register then yes i would say carpal tunnel but she's not so i don't imagine that's to be true i don't know okay and and then oh listen to this this i saw this one too this one's crazy listen to this this is it's called mommy's thumb it's a term for dick the corvins uh tenos and vitis in mothers of newborn to young children.

It is commonly the result of carrying the child leading to overuse of the wrist. What do you think about that? Okay, that's more believable, I think. So carry your child less? I don't know about that. Less commonly, it can also result from fluid retention

resulting from lactational changes is rambler a girl or i always thought rambler was a boy i don't know i've been trying to snoop around and figure out who it is uh judy reed i got that when i used to work and i typed on a keyboard all the time yeah i doubt she's doing that. Oh, here we go. Gina Lee. I had pregnancy-induced carpal tunnel. For some people, it doesn't clear up. I had a pimple on my butt that I didn't think was going to clear up, but it did. Years and years ago.

Those are the worst. Yeah. Being a guy is weird because you start to get I don't know what age it is maybe it's in your 20s or 30s but you start to get hair in places that you never had before and

some random crazy pimples come with it I don't even know if I'd call them pimples they're like volcanoes yeah right yeah and they fucking hurt. Clock. Not quite a ringing endorsement of CrossFit if the fittest can't carry around an infant without damaging her hands.

Oh, jeez. Jesus Christ. Hey, so there's kind of this weird thing that happened with Hayley Adams. Hiller went to film a video with her, spend some time with her. And then the Lone Ranger podcast did an interview with her. And then Morning Chalkup was saying they did an exclusive interview with her. Exclusive? It's weird how all three of those things just collided in a week.

I know Hiller's not working with the Lone Ranger or whatever the Morning Chalkup. I don't even know what to call that thing anymore hey but um i wonder what's going on is is i think hillar's uh videos up i don't think so It was supposed to go up at, oh, is it 9 a.m. Pacific Standard Time? I'm not sure. It's not up yet. I'll tell you that. I'm looking at it. I just caught up with a few of his other videos yesterday.

They were pretty good. The Sporty Beth one and then the Frank one. Listen, look at this comment. It's on a tear. Say that again. Sorry. Say that again. Oh,

I was just saying I was catching up with some of his other videos, the sporty Beth one and his Frank video. And he's been ripping out some good videos lately. I struggled with the Frank one a little bit. Why is that? There was this component of like a fish being like caught and pulled up onto the pier and it was just flopping around with no air you know what i mean okay and i just uh i just i had to do it in pieces

like did you see him interview his wife his wife struggled with it too yeah it's like I struggle with the Bryce one a little bit too there's this piece where I did not feel that way but he's like a dog that's been hit four times crossing the street and then gets to the other side

and it's not dead and it's like no who's gonna go over He's like a dog that's been hit four times crossing the street and then gets to the other side and it's not dead. And it's like, no. Who's going to go over? Like, should someone go over there and assess? Put him out of his misery? Yeah, like, should I call Frank and just make sure it's all good? Or should I just, like, I'm just trying to ignore it. But I know that there's a dog wounded

on the hot like three exits down from my house i know that there's a dog over there that's hurt and i'm home and i'm trying to go to bed uh you didn't get any of that no but i see what you're i see where you're coming from though look at christian kettler uh liberal savvy coming back yeah um I don't have a problem with him interviewing on the toilet seat I didn't I don't have a problem with that I um remember I used to do Nikki Rod on the toilet seat in the bathroom remember that Nikkiy rodriguez someone says say something say something go ahead go to his house and say something hey nicky not cool that you're in the bathroom go ahead say something let me see how that ends up for you i don't know let's see

uh just like bryce uh um okay asymmetric just like Bryce Frank dug his own grave all each had to all he had to do was stop talking I am impressed that Frank's kind of leaning into it better than Bryce did I think

not 100% I hope so I hope he kind of just kind of tiptoes away. I don't want to really see. I hope he doesn't try to cross the street with the dog. You know, if the dog does not like, he doesn't try to cross back across the highway. Like, damn, I forgot my. Yeah.

My will be on the other side. I got to go back. And that Josh Grau guy got it. I mean, he got fucking hit by a semi and like just basically thrown into oncoming traffic in the other direction um

yeah summarize the Frank video I've not watched um we just did excuse me sorry Andrew basically takes Frank's last six months

of his business what he knows about his affiliate and the way he runs his affiliate and how he's presented himself from his Instagram account the CF Collective one and just pointed out just shit loads of inconsistencies

and I don't even know what the catalyst was for what he did to rub Hiller the wrong way. Like, did he drag Hiller into something? That's the thing that Bryce did. Bryce kind of, like, poked at Hiller. Yeah, that's what happened. I think Hiller had heard a rumor or had a source tell him that Frank was late on payments to his staff.

So Hiller poked at him on Instagram and said, hey, do you pay your staff? And then that just kind of opened up this pussy wound, and they went back and forth. But you could tell whatever happened, Frank didn't like it. So Frank gave a monologue on there, made like, I don't know, five posts in a row. And that became kindling for the fire. Then Hiller started a fire with that kindling, I would say. What do you think? Yeah, I like that.

Okay. Good. Oh, he called Hiller a coward for not revealing his sources for his information. Yeah, it was – no, I don't – bring up Hiller's story. I can't. I can't. I saw that post and I just scrolled by it because that post for me would be going and looking at the dog on the side of the road. Like going back today, being like, hey, kids, you want to drive by and see the dog we hit yesterday? See if he's still fucking flailing around. I don't – I don't.

I don't want to see it. But what's interesting too is though that Hiller did show that his wife is is like having trouble stomaching it too maybe that is it stomach yeah uh someone just posted a comment on youtube i'll say this week three is boring that's tia versus ariel uh we've seen enough of tia on these open announcements i don't know dude she's the greatest ever i would have much rather seen some of the newer young guns with personality just my opinion seven your lineup is 1000 times more interesting we'll probably get more views and cause literally nothing to produce well we won't get so it will be way more interesting that's 100 sure watching dallin jason and colton go three weeks in a row against taylor and then the post shows are going to be nuts.

People who truly like the sport are going to love it. It is really going to be good. It won't get more views, and the reason why is the vast majority of people who will be tuning in to the CrossFit stream on Thursday are there because of the reveal of the workout, right? But the show Friday night is going to be nuts and you're right it is it's literally going to cost nothing to produce but the reason why is because so many everyone's uh chipping in that's i mean that's the reason why it's a lot of fucking people doing a lot of stuff for free or for pennies so um bringing their own cameras and cables and all that shit people letting us use their gym shit like that right so um but but proof of proof of concept um if this works it would be great to i think i think it's a fucking no-brainer for

sponsors to get involved especially something that we can align with that's what's so exciting about having born primitive help us out pay for hotels and flights and shit like that because i just love the savage one so it's so fucking easy i wear those shoes every single day so it's good yeah i agree i agree watching uh tia's mind-boggling the cool thing about ariel too is i think ariel beat her in one of the games workouts. Oh, yeah. She did. And so that's kind of cool. Oh, this is a really good point.

Nick, at Gibblers, this would be really interesting. The only way the open announcements would be interesting is if Brooke Wells is there and there are handstand push-ups. Why? Does she short her range of motion on those? But it would be fascinating to have Danny Spiegel there and have squats. You're right. Like some wall ball or something and just fucking yeah hillary would go into a frenzy he'd be like a cat just like biting your arm and shit if if if when when when if when colton beats justin in week two and then comes to CrossFit Charlotte in week three, that could also be fucking nuts. No, I don't think he means for the ass shot.

I think he means range of motion, but I appreciate you, Heidi, covering all the bases. I mean, some people would love the ass shot. It's just tremendous hindquarters okay Ken Walter speaking of moms did you see Annie's handstand walk IG very pregnant elite athletes can do everything i don't condone handstand walks when you're pregnant

remember remember the uh last year at the games there was a guy on the teams and he was warming up his handstand walk event at a local affiliate and he ripped off the front of his face and i'm like what do you mean he ripped off the front of his face and then i saw the footage i'm like oh yep he really he actually ripped it off he ripped off the front uh that was nuts yeah uh john george god please let the workout favor colton my guess is they picked justin because the workout is in his wheelhouse in his barn I don't know man Colton's really hard to beat in the open he took third in the world last year he is really really

fucking hard to beat um so oh you have a skateboard back there yeah and a weight vest. Yeah, it's my plate carrier. When you would go out, you'd put that on?

No, I never really had to wear it. But they just gave us one. Well, so actually. Are you allowed to take it home or you just took it? So this one, somebody from the Nick Algebra. I can't even pronounce the last name. Yeah, I saw his name. This guy.

Altgilbers. Altgilbers. Altgilbers. Yeah. The one that they issued us is pretty trash. So I posted a video of it when I was deployed. And he's like, we got to hook you up with a new one. So he got that one for me and sent it out to me.

And now I have it fucking kidding me no it's awesome that dude bought that for you uh yeah how much do you think that is no it's not cheap they're like 300 400 bucks wow but yeah it fits perfect it's so comfortable it's yeah it's pretty dope and i wear it all i mean i wear it for whatever workouts i use a weight vest for um i watch the announcements for dave and dave only yeah me too this year i'm going to watch them more closely closer than ever because um after they uh do the announcement of course we're doing a show thursday night excuse me course we're doing a show thursday night excuse me

by the way thank you guys the the station is absolutely on fire the the podcast the seven on youtube channel is like completely fucking out of control it is normally our biggest week is around the games like this. We're just crushing every, all numbers. Everything is, uh, everything's just nuts. Every morning I wake up and I look at the analytics and I can't even believe what we're doing.

It's so cool. I still can't get any big names on the show. Cause I only have 3000 Instagram followers. Everyone just laughs at me. You're still in the request box. I got the, I got the guy that eats chicken that's because we had him on before when you had right that is the only reason that is the only reason damn he's cool though that was great right yeah he was i watched that uh when he was on dr

phil he's like unrecognizable. Oh, the way they did his hair, right? That was funny. Yeah. He doesn't even look like the same dude in the button-up shirt and all that shit. I was watching it like frame and frame or like picture and picture. Imagine how scared mainstream media is. He brought eggs to eat on the air, and they wouldn't even let him.

Do you remember the first time he was on the air was the first time I ever ate just raw hamburger meat? He came on, and I had a pound of meat, and I ate it during the show. Yeah, you're just hoping it up. I should have done that with a chicken. Samantha H., I haven't caught a live in a while. Beautiful family. Four, my goodness seve convinced me to buy an affiliate i did oh all my free time is spent spreading my love of

fitness happy to be there what's the name ofesus you look like you saw a ghost i finished the behind the scenes sub on over the weekend uh congrats to you and the team so good i'm going to re-watch it back this week yeah how excited are you for next year's behind the scenes next year's will be even even better next year's will be nuts because it's the the the venue is going to really um accommodate uh access it's going to be really amazing i'll be able to stay even closer to the all the athletes i could only imagine how happy hq is with the with the product right i haven't gotten any zero you know the only negative there's there's probably a thousand comments on

all the shows now and the um the only negative comment i saw was someone said hey man i'm so tired of people kissing your ass let me give you some real feedback these aren't edited as well as previous ones i'm like, I'll take it. Oh, James Townsend's there. Look at that. James is coming on the show to catch up with James. Holy shit. Yeah, that'll be wild. Yeah, when is that? That's soon. Yeah, it's a couple days from now, I think. Oh, that's

exciting. So Thursday morning, we have James Townsend on. We'll kick it. And then after that show at 11 a.m., people will watch the open announcement, and then we'll come back in the evening. That's going to be a great day. I have no idea what James is up to.

All right, that's cool. I'm training more prodigies, probably. Thursday, 9 a.m. Pacific Standard Time Oh, it's at 9 a.m. No, I don't think so Hold on James, let me see Central Standard Time It'll be 9 a.m. our time Oh, hit 9 a.m. his time

Don't scare me James Kevin Doyle, did you hear Mayhem Talking about the issues with the press pit? I did I heard, I watched that podcast in the beginning with Scott Vandersloot and Rory and Angelo and the great Rich Froning I'm not I'm personally not worried

because I always go above and beyond I did the, uh, CrossFit's just madly in love with me. How could you not? I always go way above and beyond with everything I do. I was a class act. Everyone, no one said one bad thing about me when I was there. Even the people who hate my fucking guts. I was polite to everyone. I kissed babies. I was generous with my time. We edited it.

We gave approval for them for everything. Made the commercials for the L1 in the open. I can do no wrong. I'm not worried about access. I'm sure they're going to be like, dude, Sebon, you are the north star of how media should behave. And that'll be that color.

Hi, not color. Hi, color. Hi. Can you hear me? Yeah. Oh,

is the phone working? Yeah. Hi. Nice. Did you say kiss babies or kiss movies? Oh, babies, babies.

I did not kiss anybody. I didn't even look at any boobies when I was at the game. I was on my best behavior. No, just your just your camera because the angle that you shoot. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. That neck down only. What's what's crazy is I've been accused of that forever. But that I swear to God, that's just how I film men's and women's boobs equally because I just not paying. I'm not I'm too busy talking and not paying attention or listening i'm not paying attention to the screen it's good no i had to call to give give you guys props behind the scenes was freaking amazing as always um felt very old

school do you think it's do you think it benefits the affiliates in any way the behind the scenes i ask you that because i'm not really sure when chris cooper said hey how can i help you do the behind the scenes and i said oh that's really generous of you just cash would be great and i go what do you want from me and he said well i'll get from you just by giving you the money what i want because what's that he goes i think media is the most important thing for the affiliates. And I know you're going to make great media from it. And so I was just wondering, I wonder if other people think that, I mean, I respect the fuck out of Chris Cooper's opinion.

It seemed the landscapes changed so much. I mean, like I started CrossFit eight years ago and I think about the open and I know other people talk about it too, like getting together in the gym on Thursdays and watching the open announcements and getting everybody excited. And it doesn't seem like that happens anymore. Well, 11 AM is going to be a tough time for that too, right? Cause all the other open announcements have been like, I go to a, I would go to an affiliate for those I used to and it would be in the evening right yeah it'd be like at seven o'clock right yeah so it's going to be it's i don't know it seems very different i hope it does i mean just

i don't it doesn't seem like the general population really knows who the athletes are anymore well they're just there to do the workouts okay i'll tell you what if i go into an affiliate and there's a hundred people there let's say like like when i went to susan or just a i don't know i feel like anywhere i go like two percent of the people know who i am right so i think most of the people uh and that and that's fine there there's i'm not that please no one read into that like I'm complaining. I think that means that most of the people are just going there with the desire to do whatever the desire is. If you're 16, you're trying to look good so you can get laid and get on the football team. And if you're 50, you're just trying to stay alive.

And if you're 70, you want to pick up your grandkids. And that's important. I'm glad people are going to the affiliates for those reasons by the way i just covered the entire reason yeah go to do crossfit right there well athletes like hayley may help push the awareness of athletes in the affiliate because she's and this is the reason i'm calling if there's agents or managers out there that are swaying their athletes from coming on this show or talking to hillar because they have this negative opinion they are fucking batshit crazy go look at the interviews that these athletes are doing on other shows and it's not even a comparison if you

people are gonna i think they're gonna be very surprised when hillary's video comes out it was you've seen it all you've seen it already you've seen it already i've i've watched it twice wow last night wow it is so fucking good wow and it's got this perfect combination of like the interview style that most shows do and then the fun behind the scenes type of style that a lot of people like the thing is with hillar that's interesting is people probably perceive him kind of as a meathead but uh he's a very intimate man like when you're in his presence uh he's free so you feel free around him like he's like like he's the kind of guy like you could get into a hot tub with naked like he don't give a fuck

like he's free he pulls you like that he has so much out of the coach it yeah just chilling he's free i mean he came to my house and fucking rubbed me down with oil and a butter knife and massaged my fucking bicep while we were shirtless in the sun on my skate ramp and I was like wow how the fuck did this dude get me in this position

he's a giver yeah totally I can only imagine I'm so glad to hear that that it's going to be like that uh intimate uh expose on her it's the most like real hayley i've ever seen like a lot of times in interviews and i mean you you know from having her on the show she kind of seems guarded she's quiet she's right she'll give you a little bit of an opinion but not much and she is like open door everything in the interview and she even pushes back on hillar on a couple things which i found quite interesting oh that's cool okay there's there's a few comments so anybody

if they like you have a certain opinion about hillar try to put it aside and watch it because it's i hate to say it it's the video that mal's video should have been oh okay could have been right so it's a completely it's a whole different side so and same thing with your show i mean you you you and taylor put out similar content you can get stuff out of people that nobody else can so just a little plug and a little props Alright thank you Appreciate it dude Cool

You guys can use that QR code at the bottom To head over to Vindicate And get your CEO shirt That was nice John George I was amazed at how open the communication was Between you and Katrin

It was nice to see It made me like her again We did some texting back and forth I was amazed at how open the communication was between you and Katrin. It was nice to see. It made me like her again. We did some texting back and forth prior. To make sure. I wanted to make sure she was okay with interacting. She was completely chill. And we communicated, I think, at a pretty high high level and then when we saw each other there I think we looked at each other and gave that assessment that kind of animals give each

other like safe safe and then I had one talk with her off camera she was walking with Annie after they got fitted for the bikes and basically let her know that I appreciated her shelving any issues we had, and I'm here to make the best behind-the-scenes piece, and if she's cool with it, I'm cool with it, and she gave me just the power of love there, and I gave it back to her, and we were off to the races for the week. It was cool. It was cool. At the end of the day, and I've said this before, and you guys know this, especially those of you who have kids or who've had trauma in your life, there's nothing that can happen in this space

that's even like 1% of 1% of 1% of what's more important to me than just my kids being safe. So when you put it in relativity like that it's like it's it's kind of easy uh gp shock is gone nfl is the one percent of the one percent my opinion the greatest athletes in the world reside their nba is close talent wise but the desire will and size just isn't there like the nfl oh meaning that those guys could come over here and, and, uh, um, and put it to, uh,

put it to CrossFitters. I'm not sure what he's saying. Uh, how did Travis get to see the Haley video already? Bullshit, man. Yeah. He knows people.

Oh, that's you, Caleb. Look at you. Wow, dude. You, Oh my God.

And it's my wife too. Really? Yeah. Which one on the right or the left at the left we met her at uh my affiliate put on a competition a couple weekends ago is that carla with her face covered by the youtube symbol yeah it is super nice lady she goes to uh kyle's gym casper oh i like a girl who wears a headband, and I love Kyle Casper Bauer. Yeah. Nice lady.

I loved your convo with Katrin. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness i oh that's what i was going to ask you dude um do you know do you know um uh there's this product it's called um mucinex has it too and sinex has it and then there's another one starts with an a ass ass ass something aspirin ass i forget what that one's called and you put the bottle up to your nose and you close your nostril afrin and you so i've been doing like and it's you're only supposed to do one squirt i've been doing like five squirts in each natural nostril every night before i go to bed okay and this is last and it usually works but last night I did it, and it burned. I just did a huge gack or a cocaine.

Didn't do anything? No, didn't do anything. And I'm wrecked this morning. But I can't tell if it's just – everyone in my circle had a horrible cough and cold two weeks ago. Yeah. And now I'm like the only dude who has it. So I'm guessing i just got i was just ramping up in me that and if you use afrin too much you get like a rebound rebound

congestion oh i was afraid you were gonna say i was hoping i would talk so much you'd forget i asked about that damn it sorry yeah why is that explain that to me do you know what the mechanism is for that i have no idea i haven't looked into it but i do know that because i use afrin all the time too whenever i'm sick because that's the only way i feel better afrin and sepacol like lozenges but the yeah afrin will just make you more congested if you use it too much so i usually do it like once in the morning and once before bed it's addicting yeah it is for sure because it makes me it's like i can just breathe so much better it's incredible yeah like if i was healthy i would consider snorting a line or two before i worked out yeah uh james townsend uh someone what's up with your wristbands

because i'm cold i keep them here at my desk it's because i'm cold so some days i'll come and i haven't gotten warm yet some days i'll come in here and i'll put these on and i'll literally start sweating underneath them and that's when i know to take them off but i'm cold and these are huge these are these are sold at um life is rx i think and they're they're like they're monsters really long. Yeah. Or I have really short arms. You decide. How about this, John? I've never done this.

Alka-Seltzer cold and cough tablets. I'm sure they suck for you, but damn, they work. I've never done those. That's the thing, plop, plop, fizz, fizz. Oh, what a relief it is. You just drop it in a cup. Yeah. They have that one, and then they have like a pill form too.

I usually use the pill form. It's like a night and day. And you swallow it? Yeah. Oh, it's a double whammy. Jeffrey Birchfield, you have short arms and they're long. Damn. Justin B., Seve needs five squirts to fill the cavern of the schnoz. That's true.

Maybe I'm Daniel has anyone gotten their matuthean yet? I feel every every morning I brush I feel bad for the people who don't have tooth powder. Literally I'm like man you guys are fucking missing out. If they ordered it probably

by Wednesday I bet you they'll get it today and then you'll just get a flood of posts of people using matuthean tonight before they go to bed. I bet you they'll get it today. And then you'll just get a flood of posts of people using Metuthion tonight before they go to bed. Yeah, it's so great. I've been using it now for months, and I'm still excited every time I brush my teeth. I'm like, oh, this is great. Do you brush your teeth more now that you have it? I do, but I try not to.

I try to only use it once a day and then the rest and then the other times in the day i just put water on the toothbrush and just you know i put a toothbrush in my mouth maybe like five times a day so i wake up in the morning and i have a cup of coffee and then oh i do use it twice and then i brush my teeth with a little bit of the metuthion to brush off off like to any of the coffee stains. And then before I go to bed, usually at night, I'm a night eater, unfortunately. So like last night I had a steak before I went to bed. And then I'll brush again with a little bit of the Mitoothian.

It's so awesome. You just use like a regular toothbrush? Yeah. I don't have a recommendation for a toothbrush that's my next thing i need to like just start researching toothbrushes i just use a regular toothbrush that's probably like off gassing and shit you know what i mean it's like an oral b i mean he's got so it's just a piece of plastic um uh pull boy with the tough questions man this is an easy show i appreciate you guys

carrying the show today i am a wreck uh what's better brushing your teeth with metuthian or having diarrhea hey bull boy i am not gonna you are not ever gonna make it on the marketing team i had crazy diarrhea yesterday. So, well, if my metoothium comes in, I'll let you know. Yeah, okay. I know that if you do both at the same time, you're overindulging. You're overindulging. You are extra clean.

Yeah. No plaque and nothing in your butthole. nothing in your butthole I was sick for three months with the lingering cough and congestion oh the Navaj oh do you use have you seen those what's the it's like a neti pot

do you know what neti pot also if you're taking cold meds make sure you get one with one behind the pharmacy counter. The one with the pseudo for drin in it. It's pseudo for drin. Someone just sent me that. Yeah, the Navaj. Greg told me the Navaj is insane.

I can't believe he likes the Navaj. This thing? So the Navaj is the shit, right? I think I've used something similar to it. I've never used this specific one. He said it's good? Yeah. Navaj.

Oh, I'm sending Greg a text right now. Novage. Do you still use that? I was a MediPod guy for a while. You were? Yeah. Did you put salt in, a little salt in warm water? Yep.

And I just inject it like a million times into my nasal cavity. All right. That's all. All right. Today, I do want to point you guys at something, a show today. I'm not even sure exactly how it works. If you go to the Get with the programming youtube station it's a race who's going to get their first mirror caleb get with the programming and caleb wins again oh they got a new uh hosted by chasing german bill grundler there's two shows

there's a show um there's a show There's a show Oh it doesn't even tell you what time it is It just says upcoming That one it says the five horsemen preview show And that one is soon Oh 11 minutes

12 15 Okay so in two hours they have this show Oh look and so they do have tyler and john young who's the guy next to tyler i don't know that weird face who's that guy let's see doesn't say in the description my nose Jeremy Austin Australian broadcaster

and MC Greg says he hasn't used it in a while but he's been thinking about it and then he says what has you thinking about it? I should say I can read your mind, but instead I said my nose is fucked. Like, I don't want to do it. You know, when you know, I don't want to do anything. Like, I wouldn't even drink a spicy margarita right now.

Like, I don't want to do. I just want to work. I still want to work out. It goes away when i work out but it kind of hurts when i breathe in cold air now too but when i when i do when i and i'm on the assault bike and it's like it kind of burns a little oh yeah when you're sick all right uh quit being a bitch. I mean, I... Listen, I pushed through it. You'd be proud of me. Man cold.

Yeah. We had a... My wife came home the other day from a shift at the hospital. She works in the emergency department. And this trans... I thought your wife was a firefighter. She is.

She's making a little extra money on the side. So this trans individual came in and they were, what is it? It's a male to female. They're a dude. It's a guy that was

parading around as a girl. Correct. Just came in just complaining of like crazy originally biologically it's a guy that was parading around as a girl correct okay uh just came in just complaining of like crazy like stomach cramps and congestion nausea like the whole nine yards like just trying to just trying to get the works they ended up giving them uh it was either what was it called it was some some narcotic like some pain medication like crazy fucking pain med and something that you did like way worse than tylenol something you don't even need unless you're like limb got chopped off right right because the dude was just complaining

of like crazy fucking abdominal pain was it an injection the drug yeah yeah okay so it is like it was ivy they gave like ivy meds okay so something hardcore okay crazy hardcore meds well they ran like a whole gambit of tests on them right they did like the nasal swab they did like a strep test like all that shit they had a cold and they gave them like basically like fentanyl level pain meds so the dude had a cold. And they gave them basically fentanyl level pain meds. So the dude had a man cold, came into the ER. Damn. That's pretty funny. Did she see them naked?

I don't know. I saw something the other day on Instagram. It was five boys sitting around. I think they were all under 18. And they were all in some phase of turning into a girl. And one of them, they're like, so how are you doing, Casey? And she's like, oh, I've had a rough week. My vagina unraveled.

Unraveled was the word she used because she had a penis it had a penis he had he had a penis that got turned into a vagina and the vagina unraveled just rolled right back out of the hole that it came from that's amazing dude yeah trans dudes still have man colds uh turn your turn your penis into a sharpay i wonder if it's easier to turn a penis that has its foreskin into one more reason to keep your foreskin so if you decide to turn into a vagina they have more to work with oh yeah it's a good point all right oh my timeline is wild you want to see my time how yeah i'm not doing it okay i'm staying cool today i'm not doing any i'm being cool today i'm being cool fascinated with uh obsessed with the trannies obsessed uh i'm glad the trends i'm glad the trends when i was a teenager were thin gold chains clogs and

mullets clogs like birkenstocks or what we're? Yeah, Ken's from the turn of the century. I don't even... He's the shoe cobbler. Welcome to the show, Rogue Fitness' newest CAD designer. Savan. Hey, what's up, girl?

You know, I hit purchase on that thread, and then I had to leave. So I didn't hear anything. Did I get the job? She said to apply for it. I know. She keeps saying to apply for it, but I can't find it on the website.

Hey, dude. So the suggestions for equipment goes directly to her inbox. Okay. So that was another thing i said hey so in the in that piece if you go back and listen to it um do hold maybe caleb looks like he's pecking away right now maybe he's going to show you the oh here we go i keep oh so they have a have you gone to their job posting area i go to their job posting occasionally but i've never seen anything that results the type of job that i'm talking about okay what i would do is where you

lay out where you lay out their fern and where you lay out uh gym equipment on the floor product designer there is one available now well i think that that's products. Oh yeah. You're right. It is. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I just say hi. Okay. Hi. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Had to,

on top of everybody else asking for favors, had to send that. No, you know, that was great. I liked it. And anything for you. You're awesome.

Thank you. I had to go. I like hit and I had to go measure a kitchen. So. See, look, that's how dedicated you are to your craft. That's right. I got to go measure a kitchen. See, look, that's how dedicated you are to your craft. That's right.

I got to earn that $100 somehow today. Are you in your car? Yep. Did you just put on the emergency brake? What? No, I didn't. I'm just driving. Oh, okay.

I thought I heard an emergency brake. Do you use your emergency brake? No. Okay. But, no, but I mean, when you're stopped, when you park, do you put on the emergency brake? I do not. Yeah, okay.

But this car is one of those cars where it'll just tell you when it needs to stop if you're too close to somebody, and it scares the heck out of me. Oh, okay. What kind of car is it it's an audi a5 oh geez oh my god wow okay hey hey i got a little good going to those kitchen jobs someone just texted me i would like to hire uh someone just texted me and says i would like to hire uh jody for my home gym design okay Okay. Someone just texted me that. I can't tell if they're joking or not. They're texting again.

Hold on. Let me see. They're sending you another text. Sivan, your shows are killing it. I just love listening to your shows. Oh, thank you. I don't care how boring they are like the chicken you just make it into the best show ever you know the chicken guy was boring no no no i mean who would think that that would be a good show oh right right it was just a great

show oh hey dude it's doodle it's doodle bob wants to hire you for the, and he's not joking, the guy who only eats rib-eyes. Hey, as long as it's not Brandon. I don't know who Brandon is, but I really like Doodle Bob. Oh, Braylon. Braylon. Oh, Braylon. No. No, no, no. Anyway. Do you find Braylon attractive? He's okay. I find him attractive it sucks well when i get back to my desk i'm gonna listen to the show again and i'll see what katie has to

say okay she's great and then so i mean she's so hey get in touch with doodle bob here's how i see this unfolding. You're going to design Doodle Bob's gym, and then you're going to use that to be like, look, I designed this guy's gym, and then you can send it to Katie. It's a double whammy. Perfect.

Okay, his name is, I don't know if I can say his name on the air. He told me his real name just now. Okay, well, I'll, well, he knows how to, if they don't know how to reach out to me yet, they have to listen a few more times. Okay. Jody Lynn. But Caleb, I've got your kitchen all set whenever you're ready.

Perfect. So you've got one wall and an island, right? Yeah, pretty much. I see it. Yeah, pretty much. I see it. Yeah. I don't really like Caleb using his access from the Sevan podcast and taking advantage of it for his own benefit.

He didn't pass that through the HR. All right. Well, Caleb, it's between me and Sergio now. Okay. Thank you. All right. Sounds good. Me and Sergio. All right.

Hey, get back. I'll talk to you guys all later. Okay. Bye. Thanks. Bye. Okay. Bye-bye. How did the name Sergio even come? all right hey get back get back i'll talk to you guys all later okay bye thanks bye okay bye bye how did the name sergio even come um the go rough product designer yeah why did he just he just he i think he couldn't remember suza's name and he thought suza was running the back end so when he was pulling things up he goes oh sergio he just threw a name out there oh and that's what that's how it came about so now everybody's just now i'm sergio um you know when

your sinuses are so fucked up that like the tops of your the bottoms of your top teeth kind of like you can feel like where your teeth are rooted into your gums like i can feel all my teeth going back here because there's so much snot sitting on them yeah that's painful jesus criminy hey um do you use your e-brake uh no not really mostly flatland here yeah i'm parked on a hill or something then i will but my mom always uses her e-brake like when parked like she just throws it in there every time yeah like if she parks in my driveway at my house she puts on her e-brake huh hey when um when i when i had a i don't use my e-brake either but when i had a stick i used to drive a volkswagen rabbit 77 volkswagen rabbit and it had an e-brake in the center then i used it all the time

oh it was just like just like pulling on it yeah yeah pull it up i could see that jesus okay so i knew it i knew it i fucking knew it i knew it i knew it it's a manual I guess yeah I don't know Tyler Watkins I always use this is the heat one app guy I always use it to take strain off of the transmission I knew someone was going to say something like that

does he drive a stick so only people who drive a stick use it that's what I would imagine yeah or if you're on a hill like the only time I use it Greg's what i would imagine yeah or if you're on a hill right like the only time i use it greg has a really steep driveway at his house and when there's a lot of people over i'll park on his driveway and i'll put the forerunner in park and put on the e-brake that's the only time damn but i don't even know why i do that but i do do it. My wife's Jeep. Wait, where's Ken?

My wife's Jeep has an auto setting for e-brake. And when I get to use it, I take it off and then she's not happy. Oh, yeah. When I get rental cars, sometimes they have this thing where just like the big SUVs will just set it. It's weird. Huh? Yeah. Magdalene Egbert.

My sister had a Rabbit convertible. I felt like it was a can't-buy-me love. It was amazing. Yeah, every dude wants to bang a chick who drives a Rabbit convertible. Those were the... Clock, the GTI handbrake was sweet. Felt good to click the button and release the brake. Yeah, how about just...

We would take... My buddy had a civic that was a stick and i had a rabbit and we would just drive it in big parking lots on rainy days and turn the wheel and pull the e-brake wow when when i was a kid my parents or my parents had one of these two and we lived in like way north south dakota and. You had one of those up there. Yeah. Did you park it in the garage? No, we didn't have a garage. We had to park outside. And during Christmas time,

we went and go bought to buy a real tree. And we put it like in the middle here. We like shoved it through this little middle portion. And with the convertible top off. And all of us were bundled up. I was like five years old

of it somewhere but yeah if you still had that car that car's probably i bet you that car cherry is like 60 grand now probably that car's so fucking expensive now we had this red one just like this this town i tell you truth i can't even remember seeing a red one like that um the town i live in has so many nice vw buses and there's it's crazy old ones do people live in them people no you you will see people living in them or is it just you see so many nice ones driving around man there's just such piles of shit to drive though they are so gutless like you shift into second

like at five miles an hour and third at like 15 god they're gutless and they got that big stick yeah I see tons of those tons tons if I go out right now I'll see one Yeah, I see tons of those Tons Tons If I go out right now, I'll see one

Look how much one of those cost Oh shit Look at that one that's got like a A tow truck Wow Wow Oh shit, look at that one. That's like got it like a a tow truck. It's like it tows a bus. Wow Wow That is gangster that thing cannot go over 45 miles an hour Oh

Yeah, one of those things must be look at that gray one dude The manual that thing must be 150 000 dude yeah that's nice those are crazy yeah i've seen them for sale um with no, no inside, completely rusted body for like $50,000. Just a fucking shell, dude. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, I just looked on cars.com. They used 1974 for $50,000.

Yeah, go back even more. Go like to $60,000. Let me see. Can I see the one, the shitty one you saw? Is it shitty? Do? No, there are no pictures of it but Let me see if I can get up some pictures Here we go Man they're

Expensive Oh that's That's pretty good whoa those are That's pretty oh that's a 96 that's a That is not a 96 that green one That is bullshit that's not true That thing says it has 1,900 miles on it. No way.

Yeah, something's not right there. Maybe 132,000. Wow, those are crazy. Oh, is that the same one over and over? I don't know. I don't think so. That's crazy affordable for one of those. How is that a 94?

Oh my God. We need to get like three of these. These are cheap. Can't believe how cheap these are. Can you put them in order of most expensive? Wow, look at that. 26 grand. I bet you that one doesn't even have an engine in it.

Someone wrote these look fake. They look fake don't they look fake can you order them from highest to lowest oh yeah whoa there we go wow dude that that click on that 1970s one a step i've never seen anything like that what the fuck oh my goodness does somebody have to make it like that yeah that step That step side like that. That's wild. Oh, let me see the engine. Yeah, it's got the. Wow. Crazy.

That's still cheaper than I thought. Me. Six volt battery. Can't the lights lights don't even light up shit. Oh, my God. He's got a fucking towing ball in the middle go fuck yourself is that thing a dually dude i think uh no no i can't do that thing has a towing ball i wouldn't tow shit in that it sure is pretty that's wild i'd hate to get in an accident and that be in the back. How about that next one down?

Oh, just below 100. Damn. All right. Volkswagen buses. That thing ain't towing shit, Chase. Chase says it's for towing campers. That thing ain't towing shit, Chase. Chase says it's for towing campers. That thing ain't towing dick. Tell your mom around.

Yeah. You put a 600-pound girl in the back of that thing, and it's fucking pull a wheelie. Ernie Garza, supposedly they're coming back I know they've been saying that shit forever just saw some concept pictures of them they look pretty dumb okay so we talked about e-gigs let me talk to you about one more just crazy superficial

bullshit thing will you go to the CrossFit Games Instagram account? Oh shit. No Rep News says that Eric Rosa is applying for a position on the board of the CF Collective. Wow. The. I wonder what the people at CrossFit think about Hiller's video and Frank. I wonder if Don's seen it.

He got de-affiliated and then ass-pounded. That sucks. Look at that post on the left there. Does we click on that? As someone like that, 6,000 people like like that are there any comments on that just out of curiosity oh there are soon as i see that i swipe away my brain has zero look at the top picture just look at it i just see that as a mess do you do you like that at all caleb is there like did like have you that's been up forever now have you ever looked at that

no I haven't I maybe looked at the first three like the top three numbers the $20 three weeks begins February 29th but the rest of it I just don't really like can't does anyone think that that's good like even remotely way too busy

I dude I think that's like a crazy understatement i mean look at this thing that just says why down here this like who thought it was a good idea to put that in there oh i'm not sure why i'm gonna do the open let me look why oh hold on let me get out my fucking reading glasses i can't even read that uh who how is that stupid as fuck yeah thank you how did this make it oh hold on i want to see if those qr... Do those QR codes actually work? Let's see that. I see this stuff.

So this would... I would consider firing the person who made this. Why are there two different QR codes? And the QR codes don't work. God. Oh, yeah. Okay. Once you made it a little bigger, it works. Hold on.

Let me see. Oh, and it takes me to this page a login page wants to use my wife's name man that thing is so bad uh wad zombie i tried to make fun of these before but like eric said the image is so busy that no one could see the jokes. Yeah, it's,

it is, it is unreal how bad this is. And it's been up forever and it's pin. That's the thing. Like if you were to make it and just let it fly by now, I've seen it a hundred times and I still can't tell you. I don't remember one thing that's on there. How about the picture? what like go to the picture

i would just go by that too i've no like i would not stop and read any of that uh suzy tell i thought i was blind so glad other suffer reading this too it's not even there it repels me it pushes me away i i just don't understand i want someone to and i want someone to be like no no it's really good i like to get all my information in one slide and it's really cool and i don't mind and i like to just sit on the toilet and really focus on one thing and and i it seems like it's everything that instagram is not it's like hey how can i just absolutely use this platform in the absolutely worst way you also can't scan qr codes if you're looking at it on your phone.

There's something you can do. I forget how you do it, but there's something you can do. I don't know how to do it, but there's something you can do. Renee Page, I would do their designs for free. This is so bad. Okay, good. Is there anyone who likes it? Does anyone want to defend it?

I want someone to try to defend it. Yeah, I'd rather see one IG post a day than 15 images on one day. Yeah, me too. Oh, look, what? Tell her what I feel like I was about to go into epilepsy, epileptic seizure when I looked at them. Yeah, it's a yeah, it's a mess. That's what it looks like to me. Soon as I saw it, I'm like, wow.

No, thank you. Like, I'm embarrassed. Like you invited me over to your house and I saw what a mess your house was. I'm embarrassed. That's what it is. I'm a little embarrassed when I see it. You know what I mean? When someone's talking and you get on TV and you get uncomfortable, you're like,

ooh, this isn't going good. It makes Hiller's thing with Frank palatable. That much worse Dude it's so What's worse than watching a dog get hit six times Crossing the road That post

Oh okay Poolboy likes it you do like that post Okay why do you like it Just cause you get all you can just go there and reference it For information Like let me see go back there is there any information actually on there the date that it starts how much it costs how long it's going to be when scores are due okay so it has the date yeah why not just put the date just say it starts the 29th. Yeah. And then a big QR code or something.

Yeah. The date. What is this one? Well, look at this one. Measure your fitness. Like what the fuck? That,

that hasn't made sense since it started. I didn't, I didn't understand that. Uh, Julie Jones, uh, Don fall said they were going to take money out of the sport. Maybe the first step was to, to use unpaid intern to create this graphic dude here's the thing you could an unpaid

intern would make something so much better than this here's the thing too let's say someone made this okay and you work there and you were in charge you'd be like okay cool um can we take off three things take off measure your fitness and um why in the why and uh take off the uh one above it with the cell phone thing yeah and let's and let's take another look and take off the three weeks like the only thing you really need i mean you just need the date the the money thing you really need, I mean, you just need the date. The money thing is completely pointless. I don't like it anymore. No, I don't want to convince you.

I don't want to convince you. Like if you saw it and you found utility in it, like I'm not trying to convince you to stop fingering your anus. If you like doing it and you find utility and pleasure in it, do it. I'm not. Yeah, Shiz, what do you think? You're a graphics guy. What do you think? Why does measure your fitness not make sense? What do you mean they're measuring your fitness? It just doesn't make sense. need to explain to me measuring it to measuring it with measuring it to what yeah i wish they would have and if it's if it's to other people well yeah i

don't need them telling me that that's like the most obvious thing ever i know a bunch of us are going to do it and i'm going to see where i rank or what would mean are they going to do the exact same workouts as last year so I know like what the fuck You measure your fitness by whether you're ranking on your leaderboard you don't measure about this gymnastics arbitrary one to ten bullshit Vindicate clipart shit Oh look at Bernie Gannon, okay okay everything is spelled correctly all right fine all right yeah sure nice okay bar's pretty low but qr codes work i'll take it crawl before you walk

uh sometimes uh higher-ups want all the info in one sheet thinking that it will be the be the end all be all and isn't designer usually friendly less is more sometimes yeah the whole point is is to engage people to want to sign up that it just makes me want to push away the thing is is you need to post something like that every day yeah page smith i think you need to offer a why for some people i'm okay with the why it's just just all of it in one place i just i'm not gonna engage with it except for to make fun of it on my show oh wow interesting uh tiktok brains can't handle an infographic maybe i have tiktok brain i'm open to that here we go another positive comment uh i mean if you want all the info on one page you got it with this but but there's more than just info on there if it was just the info i'd be cool with it

i'm and i am just an info guy i don't need to be i just need i'm just an info guy alright that being said show's over don't forget to go to get with the programming two big shows today they're gonna be fun wild all sorts of veteran games

experts on there. Dan Guerrero, it's fine. Stop being a drama queen. Listen, you're attacking me. Let's stay focused on the subject at hand. That's called ad hominem. Shows lack of intellectual capacity. Buh-bye.