The Sevan Podcast - Matt Shindeldecker | Affiliate Series - Making the most of your affiliate

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

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I see Matt Schindeldecker This is like did you know that show Romper Room Romper Room Yeah No I've never heard of it Who's the blonde girl Who's the blonde girl? Who's the blonde girl? Is this

headphones set up? Sousa. Matt Schindler thinks he's going to text me the answer and give it away. What are we talking about? See the blonde girl down there? I see her, yeah. She scares me a little bit who's that? she should scare you

she looks like she's a lawyer in that office oh she does look like a lawyer holy shit what did you say about Schindelwecker? she brought the big guns here we go Caleb there might not be room for you that's okay I don't want to deal with the blonde she's scary she's just scary wait i like uh oh there you go hi guys hey hey what's up who's that girl chrissy chrissy is our uh gm and head coach at the prison all right she's waving she

seems safe. That's what she wants, do you think? Okay, here we go, everyone. Brace yourself for impact. Hi, Chrissy. Hello. What's up, girl? I'm good.

How are you? That was very funny commentary. I was trying to get not a lawyer, not scary. Prison, though. Prison. You spend time in prison, it sounds like. That's all right. I got a little spiciness, but nothing crazy.

Judgment-free zone. Everyone spent a little time in prison. Safe space. Matt, what's up? Debbie, what's up? How's it going? Good. So stoked to have you guys back on.

Yeah, this is awesome. Thank you for it. I know, I don't think a week goes by where we don't get a message, a text message, a phone call. Hey, I was watching the Savant podcast and man, I want to be a part of your program. How do we start? You know, so what you're doing plainly, quite frankly, is probably more publicity than we've had in the two years of partnering with others. more publicity than we've had in the two years of partnering with others. Hey, I said it to you on the show and I meant it.

When the first time I had you on and I heard your story, as you got off the show, I was like, hey, dude, I'm a little bit envious because your life seems like it has so much purpose in it. You wake up every morning. You told us your story. Basically, let us know how the world puts you where you are today and in that position everything that happened in your life has made you capable eminently capable of handling and doing what you're supposed to be doing and uh i am sort of a single issue guy as i um have three kids of my own that kids are oh she's a fed. We saw that, Chrissy. I see it. I saw it.

I'm a single issue guy. It's kids first. It really is like that's kind of the filter I put it through. What can we do to – I don't like the word help because it's so ambiguous, and I think a lot of people who think they're helping are actually hurting people. But your mission to empower, to empower kids and help them, put them in a situation to build confidence and identity and regather and recoup their understanding of themselves is what you're doing. Can you tell me in a nutshell, either you or Debbie, what you guys are doing? It's CrossFit Crave, right?

That's the mothership gym? Okay. Yep, that's the mothership gym. So CrossFit Crave, we'll turn 15 this year. We'll sign our 15th year next month, I think. We've been working with our probation department locally in our county for six years. Basically, it's court-ordered CrossFit. We started a program where the kids come to the gym four days a week for an hour.

They have their own class. And these kids are – a lot of people work with – I'll call it at-risk, which is great. But these kids are the risk because they're already in the system. They've committed a crime. Now they're going through rehabilitation. And the judge that we partnered with court orders a select amount of kids to come to the gym to work out. And like you said, we've talked before, it's obviously it's the methodology, it's CrossFit, but it's combined with the community that makes this program successful, meaning recidivism rates across the United States, the rate at which adults and juveniles re-offend. So they go through their court-ordered time, they get out of jail, whatever it is in the adult world. It's

measured three, every one, three and five years, meaning do they come back into the system at some point, one, three or five years after post parole, if you will, 88% of adults reoffend in that five year timeframe, 70% or more like 75% of youth do the same thing because they're dropped right back into the program or right back into the environment they came out of. You know, this like you look at predictive values, you know, if you drop someone back into the same home predictively, they're going to come back. They're going to turn out the same home, predictively, they're going to come back. They're going to turn out the same way. But we've been able through community and the methodology and the work that our coaches and what Chrissy's doing in the prison is reducing that to about 23%. Whoa. Hey, there's another implication there too, right? That punishment doesn't work.

That's right. Now, by the way, I'm suggesting by any means that that bad people aren't taken off the streets i please i am not suggesting that i'm just suggesting that um that that it's not working if the goal is to get them back and to be uh productive members of society for me the most powerful piece of the whole thing and it should be talked about every day somewhere in the crossfit space is that you have the parole oh we have an echo i know i don't know where that's coming from did someone open up their youtube browser maybe nope not you chrissy let's see maybe it's matt is that better yeah much better thank you oh no no no wait let me see matt matt mute matt uh and debbie for a sec yeah it's coming from something you guys have going on like you have two like maybe you have a phone open or but i'm not sure is it still there? Yeah. Maybe come out and come back in.

Okay. I'll do that quick. Chrissy, what's up with you? So, Chrissy, did you say you work in the prison and you are – how did you meet Matt? So my gym is like half a mile up from the jail. Okay. And Debbie and Matt were in town. I just happened to be there working out on

my own and she knocked on the door. Uh, we started talking, um, I'm in the recovery space. So that kind of like with Matt's situation and stuff, or life talking about my recovery and stuff, it just kind of segued into how I want to help at risk youth and um here i am so you were at a crossfit gym a half a mile away yeah i don't own it i just coached there for me the most um potent part of the program is the fact that the parole officers have to also work out with the clients. And for the first time ever, a couple weeks ago at Greg's house was the first time in three years that everyone who's on the Sevan podcast got in one place together and we worked out together. And although we're all very close, it changed – that even changed my relationship with Sousa and Caleb and Hiller. and Caleb and Hiller and, uh, just working out with people, it, it, um, it, it accelerates the,

it, for some reason, working out together really hard accelerates the intimacy of the relationship. Um, uh, you know, some people say it's group, group suffering and that's why it works in the military with those um whatever those the seals do that week that they do that create hell week but for some reason would you say that also do you see that like when you said that to me i'm like oh that's it that's the piece it's not it's it's having the the parole officers work out with the uh yeah kids yeah it absolutely levels the playing field right because these kids are these kids are constantly monitored through the court system. They've got ankle bracelets on, you know, an officer picks them up and takes them to counseling, takes them to doctor's appointments. They're constantly monitored. And you drop them in a CrossFit setting for an hour. And now there they're on equal playing field so that shared suffering that you have inside of that hour that crossfit gives us it's that that there creates the bond it's shared suffering when i get up off the floor after finishing 24.3 and that correction officer

probation officer or policeman woman that arrested me helps me up and say hey good job completely level playing field did right. You go back to what, you know, Greg has always preached about, Hey, it doesn't matter if you're a garbage collector, um, or an attorney or a doctor inside of that hour, all of that goes away. And that's where, you know, rehabilitation starts. I want to talk about how this spreads to other gyms. So, Christy, so tell that story again. So you're at a gym a half mile away. And how do you find out about this program?

Debbie walked in. That's it. And was she there to work out or was she there to just share the program? Just, I mean, Debbie, you can say how you ended up there, but I was working out. Were you a coach there? Yes. Okay. With my friend Melanie, who also helps with the program.

And Debbie walked in and we talked for a bit and here we are. Go ahead. And Debbie, were you going there to share the program with that gym a half mile away from you? They're a half a mile away from the detention center. Oh, okay, okay. So we're going there with the intention of finding quality coaches with a heart to serve, to hire, to go into the juvenile detention center

to coach the youth and the security guards there. When we started this program inside of the juvenile detention center, we've already been working for years with kids who are on probation and doing that. Our state came to us and asked us to start CrossFit inside of the juvenile detention centers because they're three hours from us. We had to hire local coaches. So, you know, sometimes sometimes in life there's a pressure to do things because it's expected or because of titles. it's expected or because of titles, right? So near this detention center, there were some coaches who had surface level impressive titles within the CrossFit world, but no heart to serve,

no heart for others. So we went and talked to them and introduced them to the team within the detention center. And 48 hours before the program began they text and said we quit um it doesn't have the crossfit hq name on it we're out and so um that was the reason that was the reason they gave yeah yeah unfortunately hey we're both like i can't i don't know even know how to process that why would would that matter? I'm just, I know this is a digression, but why would that really? Yeah. They're not in it to change recidivism or to change lives. They were in it for notoriety, which I'm 100% grateful that they quit because it would have been a complete disaster.

Had they, had they went forward. So notoriety, meaning that they wanted credit for it publicly. Yep. That's what it boils down to. Yeah. Well, that's why I have you guys on the show. Because my name is Debbie Wagner with Expanded Horizons and not Debbie Wagner with HQ. That made a difference.

That's fascinating to me. I mean, I'm going to have to process that. I don't really, I'm not, I have to process that. What does it mean, heart to serve? What does that mean to you, Debbie? What most, I would say 99% of CrossFit coaches do. You go in to change lives. You're not going in, again, for a title.

You're going in to create relationships and change lives and for your life to be changed. Yeah. I think you'll recognize this. I think we all, at least for me, 15 years ago found CrossFit because we needed to change our lifestyle. Right. You know, what direction are we going in? I lacked the community, which I never thought I would find in a CrossFit gym until I walked into it. Then fast forward that to say, okay, I want to have ownership because my, my, my internal value, um, I wanted to share that externally. And how do you

do that? You join a gym or open up an affiliate, right? Um, now you're taking what you started with and trying to share that with people because you know the effectiveness you know what it does give it six months what will it do to your life um and that's kind of it's kind of where we're at that's how we started and then you can finish with coach chrissy hey there's here's our guy christy what's your day job i'm a stay-at-home mom and a coach and how many kids do you have i have three wow how old are your kids i have an eight-year-old son and then twin four-year-old girls oh oh we're in a very similar boat did you know that no i have twin um seven year old sons and a nine-year-old boy. Oh, look at that. Yeah,

crazy. Wow. Right? So you live a crazy life too. Wait, your twins are younger or older? Younger. Younger. Okay. Same with me. Wow. Are yours identical or fraternal? Fraternal. They each had their own bag. Fraternal. Yeah. That's right mine mine had their own bags but one uh placenta so we're identical oh is that how that works i thought oh i'm trying to think of my i'm trying to think of my wife i don't remember her birthing two placentas oh yeah she did yeah she yeah she did because each i remember them because and then each of them from the placenta is like that disc thing, and then the umbilical cord comes out of it. Yeah, we had two separate ones of those. Yeah, that's the big indicator between fraternal and – I learned a lot.

How do you – Twins in my family, and I had – So there's two umbilical cords coming out of one placenta? Is that how that works? Uh-huh. Fascinating. Crazy. Did you how that works? Uh-huh. Fascinating. Crazy. Did you save, did you save that thing?

No, no, I got, I got mine. Some, I, I kept them in a bag somewhere back. No, they're just, they just dried up. Like they just dried up like snakes. They're like dead snakes. They're just like, like a snake skin. They're just dried up and I coiled them up and saved them. But I would be, I would love to see a placenta with two two snakes coming out of it that's wild hey what did you see

it did you see it i saw it through a picture i had a photographer in the delivery room uh were the were the umbilical cords different sizes like did one kid have a really robust umbilical cord one kid had a little weenie one yep yep so i had to be like every other week i had to go get a c-section to monitor that they were like sharing nutrients as opposed to one dominating the other not a c-section but a um mri oh yeah ultrasound sorry ultrasound and ultrasound i was like how many c-sections did you have okay wow fascinating god because one of my kids one of my kids umbilical cord would look like a joke i was like you ate through that i mean it was just nothing okay so

so you have kids so you're there and debbie comes in there and um what does it mean to you um a heart to serve i'm assuming she kind of opened with that line. Well, I mean, it was just casual conversation. I am seven years sober. I got, I fell into CrossFit, like you were just talking about to change my lifestyle, save my life. And throughout that whole conversation, I was talking about how I wanted to work with in the recovery community, like something like Phoenix does with CrossFit. And then she was like, well, by the way, this is the program we're doing. It's up the road. Are you interested? I was like, yeah, let's go. Let's do it.

And almost a year later. and almost a year later. Do you actually have a program there with a handful of kids who are in the program at your gym? They do not come into my gym. You go to the detention center? I go to the detention center twice a week. It is a full-blown affiliate. If you look on CrossFit.com, you'll see it.

I think they need to put a little asterisk that it is a detention center. Yeah, it's hard getting into this one. It's hard getting into this one. Yeah. Why are there wires? And yeah. So, yeah. Hey, just on a complete side note, my wife used to teach yoga to a lot of different places, and she would go to juvenile detention centers too.

She said it was really depressing just in the way it was like just the facility, the actual building, all the doors you have to walk through, doors locking behind you. She even taught some at San Quentin, which is like the big prison. Yeah, breathing and yoga classes. which is like the big prison. Yeah. Breathing and yoga classes. It's a, it's a, it's man, we could do a whole show on just your experience and what you're, what you feel as you walk into that center. Hey, what did your, what did the gym owner say? Debbie, do you talk to the gym owner first before you go in there? So they're not like, Hey, are you trying to poach our coaches? Yeah. So I had contacted the gym owner at Chrissy's gym and just said, Hey, are you trying to poach our coaches? Yeah. So I had contacted the gym owner at Chrissy's gym and just said, Hey, I'd like to come visit. We're hiring for this program. Are you, are you,

are you interested or do you think you'd have coaches because of the timing, the classes are midday. So if you have a nine to five job, you're automatically not available to be able to do this. So he told me, you know, when to go in. So I went into the very first day of the program inside the detention center by myself, because remember the other coaches had quit 48 hours before. So a little emotional meltdown in the parking lot, like, can I do this? Right. Is these are your- Why? Because you'd only been teaching it outside. That was the first time you'd gone inside. You'd only been teaching it at CrossFit Crave.

I've been teaching it outside. That was the first time you'd gone inside. You had only been teaching it at CrossFit Crave. I'd been inside to tour before, but this time I'm taking 15 PVC pipes in and I'm going in to coach kids who are, number one, they're bigger than I am. And they were excited, but they're there because they've had some heavy trauma. Right. Right. Right. I mean, you just don't know how it's going to go over, but it was fantastic. And I had a, there was a break of about two or three hours between that and the next class that I was going to do. So I drove the half a mile to Chrissy's gym and said, Hey, um, you know, just want to drop in and meet you guys. And by the way, here's the program we're doing. That was on a Monday. And on Thursday she was inside the facility with me. And Chrissy, how long had you been coaching? Two years.

And when she, so she comes in there and do you know she's coming in there? Did the owner of the gym tell you? No. He had sent an email asking if we were interested, but I didn't know she was coming in that day. God, it's so cool. And how long have you been doing it? It's almost a year. It'll be here at the end of May. Hey, Matt, or I guess, Christy, why doesn't your gym or is your impact on the gym for the community and financially to also

start onboarding people who've been released from the juvenile detention center or people who want to bypass it what my understanding is is that some of these kids get sentenced to juvenile detention centers and they can choose the option hey you want to try a 13-week program instead of going to juvenile hall you have you can go to a match a CrossFit crave. Is that something that your gym is going to do? It's not in the conversation right now. I would totally, totally run that for them. Um, but that's not something that's been discussed yet. Go ahead. Go ahead, Debbie. The main reason we are not further along in that discussion is my bandwidth in this and working with county governments.

It takes a bit to get in connection with the judge and to work through the funding and the paperwork and all of that. But it's highly supported by the Director of Youth Services and the governor here in the state of Ohio. It's just you can only do so much in a day. And we're working right now with 120-ish gyms across the U S and Canada to do the same thing. To have programs at their CrossFit affiliate, not in a prison. So one of the things I wanted to touch on, we contact the owners to make sure that they understand we're trying to

supplement their coaching staff, right? We want to make that coach a professional coach. And our goal isn't to take them from the affiliate. It's to enhance the hours that maybe they're not open or they're not working. We can supplement those hours by driving to the correctional facility. She's our GM at that building, plus coaching classes. She can make extra money and still not lose the affiliate that she came from. For example, the next two facilities we open are going to be managed by current CrossFit affiliate owners, right?

And those will be in additional juvenile detention centers, similar to where Christie's based. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, we make it a point. We really try to say, Hey, Mr. And Mrs. Affiliate owner, um, we want to enhance the ability to allow your coaches to, to earn some serious money outside of walking into the affiliate, only if you're ready for it and it's okay for them to do that. So that's, that's, we have to have that conversation first. And the other thing is that we require coaches to go through a mental health seminar that we've developed with a, with a psychologist, because in, in coaching in general, not just in this demographic, there's so many things to coaching besides movement.

And so many things that your athletes are working through in addition to coaches working through. But to be able to have that connection and help beyond movement, we need more training than what we have found was given currently. And so that's another thing is all of our coaches. And I see Matty B's on here. Oh, I was going to ask you that. So that's what he's referring. And what's that seminar called? Uh, coaching beyond the game. It's an eight hour seminar and we just gave our last one, uh, last Saturday. Is there a page where people can sign up for that? Yeah. The next page, uh, the next one will go live today for registration and that'll be in June.

And what's the website? Yeah. If you go to, uh, see expandinghorizoncf.com. Why would Matt, why would Matt take this? Why did he take it? Because he's in Florida and we're working with his affiliate to start a probation program at his gym. Okay. Hey, I want to, I want to try to get the lay of the land here really quick. So there's CrossFit Crave and CrossFit Crave is a place where they come with their probation officers and the people. There's also a second program or within – so I don't know if second program is the right word. Then Christy also does the same program you guys do at CrossFit Crave, but she does it inside of a facility. Yes. CrossFit Crave, but she does it inside of a facility. And those are both in the state of Ohio.

And where else are, and then there's a, and then you mentioned this 120 number, is that 120 number affiliates that have contacted you that are somewhere in the process of either having now of those 120, are those people, um, gyms that are looking to have people in, or they're more like looking to do what Christy does? No, not yet. Is Christy one of a kind? Is that the only juvenile detention center where you go into? Christy is history right there. Okay. For the state of Ohio and right now the country, because it is a full-fledged CrossFit affiliate that's in the prison system that is operated by Coach Chrissy. With CrossFit equipment. It's important to know

they have barbells and dumbbells. They don't have machines. And prior to this, machines were the only thing allowed inside juvenile and adult prisons in the state of Ohio. So state legislation changed the law there to be able to open this facility. So Christy, you walk in there and how many clients do you have? It's capped at 15 now. So it could just be you and 15 people. It could be a huge class for you. Yes. Okay. So I now have in the beginning, it was just me and my good friend, Melanie. Um, she was with me on Mondays and then Thursdays I was by myself. I now have, um, a gentleman named Scott that works with me on Thursdays. So both days we kind of just like

divide and conquer, um, one hour class, one hour class. Yes. The thing is with this program, it's just constant curve balls. I have to, the boys walk in, I have to gauge what I'm working with. I have, you mean their mood, you mean mood or how old? Definitely mood. Okay. The ages range from 13 to 20. Right. Right. I think my youngest was 13. In the beginning, we had the graduates. So the boys that were done with school would come and work with me. And they were very committed. They were very into it. Our first release was his last name was Davis. He went out, he went to a gym and he plans on going into the military. So our first release was a very successful story.

So, so sorry. I misunderstood release when you said that's not someone who's kicked out of the program. That was someone who was in the program for how long? Two years. Yeah, he was in for, he had been shot six times and, and delivered the same back to who was shooting him. So he was in there for a shooting, basically. He's lucky to be alive. He was in the program for two and a half years. He was in the prison for two and a half years.

And then a year ago, during his last, call it 10 months, we started the CrossFit program. And he started working with Chrissy. And Chrissy was the only teacher he ever knew? She's the first? Okay. There are some coaches with her, but yeah. She's the only CrossFit coach he knew. So with the state, once the-

Sorry, real quick. Debbie, when you did it at a juvenile detention center, did you go into the same one that Chrissy went into? Okay, but you never met this dude? He wasn't there i met him um but again because of the three hours drive time yeah to and from we get up there maybe once or twice a month okay of our coaching schedules and things like that so chrissy is in there twice a week every week without fail okay sorry matt so so chrissy hasn't for nine months or 11 months yeah whenever they're released so when a when a prisoner that's in the system has done its time or her time or his time pay the restitution

now it's just like hey you get out of jail right so the reason this works so well is because we need that athlete that's in the prison to have a community to go home to. So we work with a local CrossFit affiliate for this. This one was in Youngstown, Ohio. Called up the affiliate and said, hey, we've got a young man that's going to be released in a month. Would you like to take him into your affiliate? The state of Ohio will pay his membership to your affiliate for um, for the next three years, um, they will pay that. And then, um, you'll have another athlete. So for three months, did you say Debbie? Okay. So then we bring the affiliate owner in to the prison to meet, to work out. So they'll join the class. They'll meet the individual that's being released. Um, and they'll start to develop that connection in that bond. Um, and then post-release he gets out of jail,

we drop him into the CrossFit affiliate. So, you know, we're, we're trying to, that ecosystem we all talk about, right. We're trying to increase the ecosystem. We know the reason for the success inside the walls, whether it's an affiliate or the prison, is because of the community that the coach develops, the relationship the coach develops with the athlete, and they get excited about CrossFit. It's sometimes the first time they've ever had someone say, hey, you did a really good job there. These kids may have never heard that before. So then you drop them into an affiliate, and now all of a sudden the affiliate is helping them get jobs because of members in the gym that are employed somewhere.

And they may say, Hey, man, I got a yard job. Could you help me with that? Or could you work in my, the back room of my store or whatever that is? Um, so now the affiliate owners taking, uh, Timothy Davis and saying, Hey, there's a job over here that one of my coaches or one of my athletes needs some help. Would you want a job? Now we got him a job, right? So you're stimulating them into the community. And we all know that, I mean, it's like one of my friends is a real estate investor. And what he does is he'll call cities and then he'll call the local CrossFit gym

and he'll be like, do you have any realtors there or bankers there? And he only works with CrossFitters because right away you've culled the herd for, you know, it's someone who who's probably a good person. Right. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It's the byproduct. It's what our community attracts.

No doubt. And here's what it boils down to. A coachable child becomes an employable adult. Oh, wow. Yep. Right. Yeah. So if I can step into a class setting and take direction, hey, Chrissy's going to teach you how to do a push press, a deadlift. Here's the workout. Here's the structure of the workout. If that individual adult or not can follow those directions and do that consistently time in and time out when they get out all of a sudden they're waking up to go to jobs because it's consistent

it's responsible and we can help their job hunt saying yeah i vouch for this individual because guess what he does every single day on his own comes Comes to class, does the workout, cleans up, great with the community. He's employable, right? So our goal in that three months that the state is funding is to help him establish that community, that relationship, and also make those connections for jobs. So that come three months, it's not like he's kicked out or anything like that. If he's still getting established, like we had one youth who was going to college, well, he doesn't have the funds then to also pay for his CrossFit membership. Right? So my part of my job then is to talk to the state and say, Hey, he needs a fourth month or fifth month or whatever, but kind of gradually allow them to have ownership in that responsibility. Like, you know, Davis's

membership is not going to be a hundred bucks his first month on his own. His affiliate says, Hey, how about you pay 20 bucks? And then you come in and clean the gym twice a week, right? Give him responsibility, give him ownership, give him a reason to want to come because he's proud of himself for not just his deadlift, but also what he's creating. And so it's, it's kind of like the training will start to come off. And that's why it's important to have people who have the heart to serve because it's going to have to be affiliate owners and people who are willing to – they have the same end goal. Like everyone who works on the team has to have the same end goal to get these people back to re-assimilated with society, with self-belief in themselves. They can do it. You don't want an affiliate owner to just be like,

okay, you've been here three months, and the state stopped paying, get the fuck out. Right. Yep, I can't make money off of you. You got to go. Yeah. What happens if they're not in the program and that same individual gets released? Are they just like, okay, good luck?

Yeah, when you're released, it's worse as an adult, but when you're released as a juvenile, if you have any parents, relatives, if you're under 18 and you've got guardianship, literally they open the front door. They give you what you came in with, which is nothing. And you walk out with your color coded prison outfit and you're dumped out in the parking lot. And that's it. Literally. Wow. The second individual that was released, his last name's Harmony is the one that started college, did not have a family outside of the prison. He had been in, I think two years, maybe a little longer. He was 20 turning 21 and had zero home. So the state had to put him, call it a halfway house, had to put him in a halfway house because he had nowhere to go.

So through that process, we integrated him into an affiliate in Columbus, Ohio. They found him a job and then helped him enroll in college. And now he's at Columbus State Community College doing what he wants to do based on the relationship he developed in the gym outside of post-parole because he had nothing after that, right? No community. And also while he, I just, it's important to know while he was with coach Chrissy for less than a year, lost 40 pounds. Yeah.

40 pounds. Yeah. The other side effect you don't even talk about, right? They get fitter, they get healthier, which makes them mentally. It puts them in a totally different position. much happier i can tell when he would walk in he like wanted to be there i mean he could not move well at all um and then it just over time he was just dropping weight and i mean let's be the nutrition, the food available to them is not great. So, you know, trying to cook for these boys and talk to them about making good decisions is difficult to do while they're in the facility.

But he was committed. And it was a wonderful thing to watch. He, like, really started taking care of himself. Matt and Debbie, we got a crazy echo from you again i don't know i don't know what happened i don't know why it went away is there only setting oh okay maybe it's my mic it's the mic on your computer could be well i'm using the yeti um maybe the and then the audio is coming out of the speakers of the computer yeah maybe pull the microphone a little further away from the computer or push the computer back a little bit maybe try to adjust

them like sitting hey christy so when you when you get when you're in there with these 15 guys um is it always the same 15 guys how often do you have new people i have new people a lot so the goal was to keep the same guys um but the way their school works is they have like two week intercessions a lot. Um, it's year round school. So during those two week intercessions, I'll have 17 to 20 boys walk through the door to come in to do a workout. I see it at, it's not ideal, but if you want to come move, I'm not going to turn you away. Um, so it's, it has made me a better coach because I have to constantly just like switch, turn, pivot, make sure like I got, I have these guys doing the basics.

I have the guys that have been with me doing something else. Um, but I have seen like five boys right now that are graduates. So they have the time coming in and working out with me. So that's, I mean, that's enough for me right there. I would love to have all 15 all the time, but I have five steady boys. And then the other problem is I'm thrilled they're getting out. But at the same time, like I'll have these boys for three months, they'll get committed and then they're released. So it's kind of like, I love it. I'm so happy they're moving on with their lives. But at the same time, like it's just a constant change, a constant getting to know these boys. And I never know what I'm going to get. I mean, these boys have had severe trauma. So even though I've had one boy for six months, one day he could walk in and be a completely different kid and refuse to even do things.

So long story short, there's a lot of change, a lot. But it's good because I won't see a boy for six weeks and then he'll come back and he'll say he missed it or, you know, he's recommitted. And then we have other conflicts that they have a lot of programs in the jail. They have welding. They send the boys to a community college. And when that kind of stuff comes up it you know it takes precedence over crossfit so i may have boys for a while and then they're gone so um it's just a constant change but the ones i do have um are are all in and it's awesome to see what kind of talks do you give with them do you are there lectures that go with

it too like hey uh yeah i'm just making this shit up uh hey uh half of you are in a shitty mood half of you are in a great mood i want all of you to watch your mood and see what happens you're at the end of the class i'm going to ask you how your moods have changed or hey boys uh we all know about fighting today we're going to talk about quarter your moods have changed or, Hey boys, uh, we all know about fighting today. We're going to talk about quarter extremity. If you want to punch someone, how do you punch someone the hardest? You start at the core and you work like, do they get some of that?

Um, CrossFit, um, you know, talk like, do you, what do they get in terms of lecture? Um, I wouldn't say it's a lecture, but there's a theme. I would pick a theme. Um, whether it's like falling down, getting back up. We do burpees. I choose a theme every time. But again, like I said, sometimes I have to completely scrap it because I'm begging them to even move. perfect class. I have a theme. We're talking about it throughout. I kind of incorporate, I was a yoga instructor as well. And I tried to like retouch on the theme throughout, like you would do in a yoga class. And sometimes it lands, sometimes it doesn't, you know. But at the end of the day, you know, we retouch on it at the end, we get together, we like, they have to all tell each other good job. Um, and then I just follow up with it and

that's it. Hope that it landed or connected with them in some fashion. Do any of them know they're doing more than exercising? I'm trying to remember what it was like being 16 years old. And I don't think that I thought of exercising as anything else other than exercising. But obviously, as adults, we all know it's it's like less than 50 percent exercising. Like we're doing a bunch of other shit, clearing our minds, working on our, you know, on our motor recruitment patterns, fine tuning our brain. I mean, we're doing stuff. We're changing our oil because we're sweating. Like as adults we do they do kids know that or for them is it just exercise um they don't i believe they're normal

young kids walking in and it's my job they think they're doing pe yeah and it's my job to educate them about like the outside benefits and i think that's where my personal experience of being in recovery and having a tough time in my life, that has been a good way to connect with these boys. So they don't think I'm just this health nut coming in here trying to make them move around. Like I mean, there was a day where they just were not having it. And I was like, everybody sit down and we're going to talk and we're going to work through this. We're going to talk about your mental health and we're going to talk about and just kind of like getting on their level and building that trust to where it went from just like fitness to where I check in with the boys personally. And then we talk about like, my big thing is just like clearing your head, having a good mood because there's so much conflict within that building between like gang violence and, you know, trauma, previous trauma, emotionally not developed.

And I try to just like preach to that. And I'm always like the added bonuses. You feel good. You're sleeping better. You look good. You know, but it's not just about that. Right. I think one of the things that's interesting in the programs, I want to call them pods. Each kid is in its own pod, and they stay in that. That's where they eat. That's where they sleep.

They have matching shirts, like you're the orange pod, like you're the orange pod or you're the green pot or you're in this program it's the first time that they can intermix those pods because if they do that if they do that on the normal they all go to lunch at the same time there is without question there's going to be a fight and a complete lockdown right um so but inside of the crossfit class because of what chrissy's been able to establish, now they can bring two pods together. I've got four or five kids from this pod and four or five kids from this pod. I can bring them in together without the fear of something happening. You know, whether it's a physical assault, sexual assault or whatever that may be, they can get that done inside of that CrossFit class.

And Chrissy's extremely humble when she talks about this, but I would put Chrissy up against any one of CrossFit's Clowmasters when it comes to knowledge and how to run a class in the form. Literally, when I walked into her class the first time, I thought, man, am I back at my old one? You mean at the pod or you mean at her gym no at the pod wow wow it was impressive yeah what were you gonna say debbie were you gonna say something yeah our next stage of development with the state is working to bring that knowledge that

chrissy's talking about out more with the kids and we're going to be able to do that through some data collection so simple things like helping them monitor their sleep. And let's talk about how do you sleep on days that you CrossFit versus you don't. Or let's look at the kids who do CrossFit and the kids who don't CrossFit because when they're in a detention center like that, we can monitor a whole lot. Right. And we'll have a lot of data collection, things like that versus how, how does the brain comprehend stress with the kids who CrossFit versus the kids who don't? So if Johnny is in the CrossFit program and he gets a call from home that his aunt passed away, how does he handle that stress versus Tim who isn't in the program and has a similar call?

Right. So there's, there's a ton of things that the state, um, actually is developing. We're working with an app developer for it. And along with the state, they've developed a kind of a board, if you will, um, of people who are working on the data collection part of it. Mm-hmm. I had a fee Segoffy on here last night, last night uh yesterday and she's a crossfit games athlete and um she stumbled upon becoming an athlete on accident uh she sounds she didn't get into the explicit details but she was in college and she was 19 years old and obviously she had some very very traumatic experience happen to her and she basically went into hiding in her dorm room wow and um she uh hit hit rock bottom right like hey i'm done with life kind of shit and then she

finds crossfit and slowly starts to rebuild her perception of herself whatever traumatic experience she's had shattered her perception of herself she couldn't share it with anyone and what i'm hearing i could only imagine the kind of shit that's happened to these kids before they actually did what landed them in that uh juvenile detention center and i remember my my wife telling me she's like i'm seeing the craziest shit and i go what she goes there's girls in the juvenile detention center and i remember my my wife telling me she's like i'm seeing the craziest shit and i go what she goes there's girls in the juvenile detention center who are there because of prostitution i'm thinking to myself so that's society's way of handling 15 year old girls who are selling their body for sex they have to fucking go to jail like we got

some fucked up like yeah that doesn't make that doesn't make any sense and she's like hey man there's way more than you would even think and so i can only imagine uh the baby steps chrissy has to take uh but i guess on the on the flip side you have a very potent mechanism that gives immediate feedback i'm guessing you see kids come in there at minute one, and they're just like, fuck you. And when they leave, they're not even the same person. They've gone through some sort of like – because obviously all the chemicals get flowing in their body, and they're alive. They landed in their body. They're out of their mind, and now they're in their body, right?

That's what I like to call it. That's what I tell my kids when they get tired or they're they're you know you're in minute two you're at the end of a two-hour tennis match and i can see them starting to go into their heads i'm like stay in your body stay in your body stay in your body don't give up yet i mean right chrissy you're seeing all that oh gosh i see it every time i'm there i get like them come out of their heads and go into their body get to escape the fucking that's why i'm like just move just move don't come in sit down and have this look on their face and not want to engage and i kind of like i just kind of like circle i get the ones that are ready to go going i circle back with my guys sitting in the corner i get them i kind of like give them little

nudges i mean of course there's some boys that are like, get away from me lady. And I'm like, okay, there you go. Stay in the corner. But I can kind of like round them up and then talk about, you know, you will feel better. I promise you, like, this is the reason we do this. You will feel better. And then they participate and afterwards they're great. They're like, better. And then they participate. And afterwards, they're great. They're like, thanks, that feels great. And, you know, going back to their life experiences, they most I would imagine haven't had a lot of people one, treat them with respect because of what they've done. And to say, you know what, you're doing a good job. You know what, I'm proud of you. You know, I've seen a lot of these boys long enough that I genuinely care for them and I want the best for them. And I found like, if he comes in one day and is stubborn and is sitting in the corner and I don't even have to

give him my little like pep talk, I'll just kind of like put my hand on his shoulder and be like, let's go. And then afterwards he'll say, I feel so much better. Like, thank you. And, um, um, I always just say, this is what it's all about, you know? Yeah. Can you paint the picture of what it looks like for a class real quick? So you're inside this room. What does it look like? Like, does it look like an actual affiliate? There's a rig like there, or is it just basically a big empty room with equipment? So when they first started the program and ordered everything, as Debbie said, she walked in and it looked like a snap fitness. So it was kind of like, what are we going to do with all this?

So they pushed all that equipment back. We have pull-up bars and stuff there, but what I've learned, it takes a while for things to happen. So we, we utilize the bars that are kind of like off of the machines, but it's barbells. It's, you know, the walls painted for wall balls, it's plates, it's everything. It's just what we have to do is we have to move it out every time and move it back in because we can't leave kettlebells and stuff like that out for these boys. So if you were to look in, it would look like a normal gym space, but we have to make everything mobile to take things in and out. So essentially the only thing that's going to stay are the bars on the wall.

Yeah. And then so what? They come in. Do you have a whiteboard that you gather around and a workout of the day and it sets up like a normal class would. Yeah. So the biggest thing that happens is I plan for a class of 15. I set it up like a standard class. I get two boys, you know, so I have all of this laid out and I'll just look at the boys and be like, what do you want to do today? What do you want to work on? And I can make a fast pivot and do something else with them. In a perfect world, it would run like my affiliate of timing, you know, they have to have an interesting thing is the movement in the halls. So like the units or the pods can't interact until they're in my

space. Sometimes my class doesn't start until like 20 minutes into my time slot. So I have to pivot again, you know, so the big to, to have it as a standard class. Um, but I would be lying if I said it, it works like that all the time. We do get it, but there's, you know, we're working with a lot of factors every day that I go. Yeah. You have to be flexible with it.

And I imagine a lot of emotions come up. I mean, being in the gym for 10 years and coaching for as long as I have, you get people that get halfway through a warmup or they start to get out of breath and they get uncomfortable, whatever they're doing with that day comes to the surface. And they're like, I need to go outside. I'm, you know, I'm upset or I need a little space and stuff like that. So I imagine that happens quite a bit there too, right? Absolutely. I can see it in some of the boys I've gotten to know. That doesn't happen to boys. That only happens to girls. I've seen it in some of the boys I've gotten to know.

That doesn't happen to boys. That only happens to girls. Oh. That's a dangerous topic. The other thing, too, is Chrissy has developed an incredible relationship with the staff. So there are always staff in the room with her, for lack of a better term, security guard style. And with what we've developed with the state, we do within that scope of 15 people in the class if there's a staff or two who wants to join the class they're allowed to join as an athlete do they do that do they join oh that's awesome and is that really true though is that really true because my wife would say she'd go there and they say they would have staff in the room

and there wouldn't be even when my wife went to san quentin sometimes she'd be like the only one in the room i'm like are you fucking kidding me let me tell you what 10 men are doing when they're if you're alone in the room with them in their head yep yeah yeah so i mean i may be sorry debbie i didn't mean to call you out i just remember my wife being like dude i'm all alone with these guys. Yep. You're good. It happens. I mean, it's, I think I'm a little too comfortable sometimes. Um, but the staff is comfortable with me and sometimes if they have to do movement, I am in there by myself, but, um, I mean, we established from day one that we went in there with the youth, that this is your program. Like we, the first day that I went in there, we had a long talk about this is history in the making. This doesn't exist anywhere else. And this is what it could do for you in here. This is what it could

do for you when you're released. If you want to ruin the program, cool. It's your program. It's not my program. So if you, if you're mad and you want to chuck a dumbbell at somebody, that's on you. But know that out of the 15, you're one person, and now you have 14 kids ready to come after you. Yeah, because you're ruining it for them. So they do have ownership in that. Yeah, no question. Yep. One of the, Matt, the second facility that we're opening is in Circleville.

It's a Circleville correctional facility. They've got a 35 by 40 room block wall, concrete floor, completely empty. So there's nothing there. So when we walked in, we visited with Kyle Hangrowski, who is the owner of Southern Columbus CrossFit. He's going to be our GM there. And they literally looked at everyone and said, okay, what do we need to have the state? What do we need to have in this room to make it a CrossFit affiliate? So he said, we need flooring. And here's a list of $35,000 worth of product from Rogue. And they're like, great. Two days later, they called and said, hey, we've got everything on order. So essentially they are building an affiliate um as we go kaya hoga was kind of our learning

session there right we're trying to do everything better um so they're he's gonna walk into his first crossfit class in what would look like an affiliate anywhere in the world yeah and if you think about the cost for the state that's's nothing $35,000. And like how Debbie was saying, once you guys quantify a lot of this stuff that they're experiencing, then you could hand that over and be like, look, here's the results on paper, not to mention the qualitative data that you're getting with they're in a better mood, they're becoming leaders, they're getting out quicker, they're assimilating into society much better. Yeah, that's amazing. That's really cool. Do you guys have anything in the Bay Area?

Sorry, that's a selfish question. Do you guys have anything coming in the Bay Area soon? I mean, we got a lot of opportunity out here. We would love, Matt, to start something in your facility. So we worked with Craig Howard. It's been phenomenal. Craig had started a program but didn't get the local buy-in from the judge and the support to really finish it.

So he started it, but we're always looking for places. What's that look like, Matt? What's that look like? I'm so curious how someone doesn't get behind this program. What's that look like? Yeah. So it's interesting. The judge that we talked to first is one of Craig's members.

She's a superior court judge. She leads judges in his area and fell in love with the program right away. Here's the problem. In the state of California, because of I'll say because it's so liberal, they don't send kids to detention centers and they don't put, they may have kids on, uh, communities, community, uh, what I'm, what I'm trying to say, monitoring by the state, but there's no money and there's no requirement for that child to, to do anything after he or she is arrested. That's how poor it is in the state of California. The state says, Nope, we're not going to spend any money there. Matter of fact, we're not even going to throw them in jail. We're going to come in, slap them on the wrist, say, hey, you got a fine, go on about your day. And this judge was extremely upset with the state of California

and the way they're handling juveniles that are in trouble. It's almost like, hey, you want to go rob a bank? No problem. That is the exercise program here. Run into a Nordstrom's and carry out as much shit as you can. And there's no punishment there. There's no punishment. Oh, we know. And that's frustrating even for those in state government

that look at where California is at and going, we're broke. We're going backwards, backwards quickly. So that's it. I know Clydesdale Media had a really good question about bipartisanship. So at the end of the day, Governor DeWine is the governor. He was just reelected. Yes. Is it very politically driven? Of course it is. There's two reasons for that. very politically driven? Of course it is. There's two reasons for that. One, you know, we're called rehabilitation. If a kid is on probation in the County that he or she live in, they don't go to court, but they don't go to prison. They're just monitored.

The state pays for that. Let's say it's $75 a day that they have to pay for that kid to be in a monitored situation. You send that kid to a short-term detention center, like if they're there two or three days or a week, it jumps to $150 per night for their stay. You send them into Chrissy's location at a prison, it's $325 per night stay that is billed back to the county, which comes from federal or state dollars. So if you've got a kid that's sentenced for two and a half years, do the math. That's what it's costing the state, us as taxpayer, to house that.

So if there's a program. That's over $100,000 a year. Yeah. So if there's a program for one, so if there's a program that reduces the risk of that individual ever getting to prison, the states behind it doesn't matter. At that point, you can pull the politicalness out of it because I'm lowering costs for the state of Ohio. Right. And and that's that's the goal. Right. And and that's that's the goal. So we try to work inside of the state as in with as many people as we can to show the data because it's all data driven. Here's the success rate. Here's what we're working with to continue that buy in. I'm reducing state costs and I'm keeping kids and adults off the street. Yeah. And then matter what side of the political spectrum you live on that's a success

because that makes what scott's saying when i talk to matt matt matt works with a lot of firefighters and what when matt would tell me that basically like matt could have 200 clients or something uh from a fire academy and then a captain retires and the whole program could go away just as someone's win they could give it to their brother-in-law down the street who's working people out of the garage like it is it's some fucking crazy shit uh it's the same thing it's the same thing with the army contracts that crossfit has um there is a lot of dislike for crossfit but if you get one general in there who knows like, oh, shit, this is this CrossFit's the real deal, then it will flourish. But in a moment's notice, that shit could vanish.

So one of the things if you're the politician in office, you get bragging rights for the program. You're the next politician in office with the data we have. You don't want to be known for cutting the program that has this kind of data. Right. The difficult part when we're working with counties who may not- And do you provide them with that too? Like as part of your plan? Yeah. Like, hey dude, like we're going to also give you this sheet of paper so you can brag when you run again. Oh, for sure.

Okay. That's awesome. That's awesome. And then, so some of the counties, when we have a difficult time getting buy-in right away, it's typically your areas where you have judges who may have been there for like a hundred years and we've never done it this way and we're not going to do it this way and change is not good. Um, so it, it takes a little bit. And they don't exercise and they don't take care of themselves. I bet you, I bet you look at those judges and you're like, yep, you don't know. Yeah. What are you talking about? We got psychiatric meds for those kids. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That's, it's really, it's really kind of cool how that whole program talking about we got psychiatric meds for those kids yeah exactly yeah exactly yep yeah that's it's really it's really kind of cool how the whole program has grown up but this because of the

relationship we've been able to develop with the state um they are they have been and we'll talk about this in a little bit they've been asking us to help with state highway patrol the academy how do i train um patrolmen and women at the academy um and then you know we're starting to do two events a year um the murph 9-11 event for all state highway patrolmen and women to participate in that's driving people to the affiliate so they can do it at the affiliate um and then the 9-11 event so the what was the first one i thought you said 9-11 twice. Yeah.

Oh, we do Murph, um, with the state highway patrol Academy. So the Friday before, so we go in to the Academy and we train them, um, and get them ready. And then the Friday before Memorial day,

we go to rogue with the state highway patrol Academy and we do Murph with them. So it's the same thing. And that's the 9-11 event. That's no, that's for Memorial day. Memorial day. the same thing. And that's a 9-11 event. No, that's for Memorial Day. Memorial Day. Okay, sorry. And then for 9-11,

because State Highway Patrol and first responders, especially State Highway Patrol, there's such a great need for them to be on the road during Memorial Day weekend. We've also started a 9-11 event, which will include all first responders. So we developed a workout last year called the climb, um, with the state, with mayhem and a couple of other people. And it's going to

be pushed out. It was pushed out last year, kind of on a, um, just a trial basis to see what would happen, but it's open from the top down from the state department. It's pushed out to all first responders, um, with a letter of intent that says, we'd love to encourage you to go to your local CrossFit affiliate, click here to find the map to find your CrossFit affiliate and join them. And the state provides t-shirts and it's a whole thing to, again, grow that same camaraderie that we're doing with these kids. How many first responders are there in the state of Ohio? I couldn't tell you. I know that the email list last year, um, went to about 30,000 different email addresses. And how many affiliates are there in Ohio? 190. Okay.

So when, when I raise my kid, the way I raise my kids is when they do something that I like, When I raise my kids, the way I raise my kids is when they do something that I like, I reward them. So I came home the other day and my kid's like, hey, look at this story I wrote that's two pages long. And he comes out of his room and he's got it all stapled. And like there's a million other things I'd rather do, but I'm like, hey, I need him doing more of that shit. I just drop everything and I sit down and I read it in front of the whole house and I glorify it. mass email to what we all know is the base of CrossFit worldwide, which is first responders, encouraging them to go into one of the 190 affiliates.

Yep. Okay. And you do that. That happens twice a year. Yeah. So in, in easy now I could see where he's going. Why the fuck?

Why don't the affiliates just pay you their affiliate fees? If you live in the state of Ohio and you're wondering why you pay your affiliate fees, maybe you should send them to Matt Schindeldecker. We'll take them. There's no one better that you want in your affiliate than a fucking firefighter, a cop, a EMT. How the fuck fuck like you should be brought at you this should be posted on the main page the crossfish should be sending out an email once a month glorifying you because i want to reward you because then i want other affiliate people

to be like oh shit we need i mean i'm fucking tripping i can't think of anything that hq even in the time that i've worked there that's more valuable than what you do during those two weeks a year i'm fucking tripping i'm tripping how this is like if like if i'm an affiliate there and i don't give a fuck about anything except the bottom line i'm like yeah matt brought in uh two firefighters came in one time and two cops the other time and guess what one of them signed up their whole family programs and we made now we make an extra three thousand dollars a year because of what matt did and if every affiliate did that and there's 190 that's fucking a 570 thousand dollars or something like that that you've pumped into the ohio affiliate ecosystem i

i'm just not i'm just with a roadmap of how you the roadmap. It doesn't sound real to me. And it's, it's, it's no cost to CrossFit to glorify you. It's zero cost. Right. And they don't have people there who can do anything anyway. It's just all management. All they do is copy and paste anyway. I, it just is that way.

I just know that there's not like, they don't have great people like me there who can do everything like you know I mean like I can clip my toenails and make a movie I just I just fucking don't get it I'm fucking tripping I'm the the thing that hits me with this is I'm not a numbers person and I don't want to beat them down and and be sorry to be and belittle what you're doing, like add drama to it, but I just don't – I just don't get it. I just want to hear one argument. Well, you know, Matt Schindeldecker does a lot of blow on the weekends, and we don't want that. I'm like, what the fuck is going to – what is – what's the – Incompetence.

Even if I don't give a fuck about your program i what i really want is one person in every state like you and then i'm jay de coons and i just kick my feet up on the desk yep just support them yeah just support them give them the resources give them the loud speaker and let them go yeah just come on over just support i mean what a great um those are the best people to work with just support people and let them do all the work. Just love on them. The email that was sent out actually had CrossFit.com's website. So you click on it, interactive map, click on it, and it narrows down to wherever your demographic is. You mean what the state puts out? You mean what the state puts out?

Yeah. Their letter has the link to CrossFit affiliates, the map, right in their letter when it puts out. Yeah. Their, their letter has the link to CrossFit affiliates, the map right in their letter. Um, when it goes out now this year, we're going to, um, start way earlier than we did last year. The state's going to create a registration site. Um, if they, if the guy wants to share the girl wants to share, um, they're going to create a register, a registration site. So the first responder can log in register it will help them guide them to their local affiliates so they can at least make a phone call to the affiliate says hey are you participating in this 911 climb um yes or no i'd love to come participate i'd love to come do the climb with you there right um so that's it's it's really big. Potentially it could be really big.

And Dale's doing the same thing. Dale King, you know, working with this. Oh, Dale makes soap. Shut up, Dale. Yeah, he's just not making soap. That's right. This is a little known, a little known fact, you know, between Dale and the group in the state of Ohio. This if you're a state highway patrolman today and you want to go to an event you want to do a crossfit event they the state will put you on active duty and pay you to go work out not your active not your day-to-day membership but an event like murph or a 5k that you're doing or something. So Dale's having a competition very soon.

Yeah. By the way, for people who don't know Dale's the owner of CrossFit Portsmouth, he's the executive producer of the documentary. Small Town Strong. Thank you. Small Town Strong. And he's also the producer of and distributor of the Matuthean tooth powder.

The greatest thing you could do for your face. But an amazing guy and facilitated people empowering a lot of human beings and saving their lives. I agree. Okay. Go on. Go on. Thank you. So those individuals that will go, the state heart patrolmen and women that will go to Dale's Gym for that competition,

that will go to Dale's gym for that competition. The state will, if they clock in that morning, just like they're going to their job and they will get paid for that eight or six hours that they're working out in his competition, which is, I mean, that's perfect, right? I'm paying now for a state patrolman, men or woman to gain fitness, to be fit and they get a paycheck for that.

And that's how I'd want my tax dollar spent too. Thank you. Exactly. A hundred percent. Yeah, right. Exactly. When we do our trauma training, we spend probably an hour and a half, sometimes more talking about suicide prevention.

I saw somebody in the comments, you know, coaches, there's a large number of coaches who have had suicide conversations with other coaches or their athletes, but yet are not equipped to do that. So that's one of the things that we do. And part of the reason for that is what I just stated, but also the number one cause of death for first responders, especially firefighters is suicide. It's not lung disease or anything like that. It's suicide. So everything that we do in CrossFit, whether it's CrossFit Crave or whether it's whatever CrossFit, it's relationship-based or it should be. It's relationship-based. And if we can give the first responders a community, just like we're doing for the youth, we're changing that as well. By the way, also to say something positive about CrossFit,

Matt and Dave Castro just went to the state Capitol in California and they got the, they got a CrossFit day. Yeah, that's awesome. In the state of California. So it was John Lavelle. I wish I would, do you remember the politician, which politician it was? Yeah, it was Bill Saley, Assemblyman Bill Saley. Bill Saley. And as you and as you might know, and I apologize for doing this, but speaking of partisan, this guy's a Republican.

And why is he Republican? Because one of the foundations of being conservative is personal accountability and responsibility. And I'm not saying that there aren't a lot of good cross great CrossFitters out there who aren't Democrats. But this guy got booed for bringing this up yeah he got booed and uh and there's it's fucking nuts so it's it's it's um it's very it's it's uh anyway so um this program that chris this this this 120 number that you mentioned in the beginning of the podcast so right right now the footprint of this program is there are – it's embracing these two workouts every year that the state of Ohio has embraced and pushing all first responders, 30,000 or 40,000 of them, into CrossFit gyms. Also, this arm, this very potent arm where Chrissy is running this first program inside a juvenile detention center where the recidivism rates are down from 75 percent to 23 percent. And then there's an outpatient program that's run at CrossFit Crave where they actually come in there with their probation officers and they work through that program instead of going to a juvenile detention center. What's this 120 number? Are those affiliates around the world who have reached out to you and been like, hey, I want a piece?

Yeah, those are the affiliates in the U.S. and Canada who have said we want to do the outpatient, the juvenile probation program. And so that's what we've done is we've kind of formed an extension. And hold on, and hold on. And I apologize with the launch. And then there's the third piece. Also, there's the launch of the sister program to Chrissy's program, which is underway. And that was the 35 by 40 foot room.

Yep. That's OK. OK. Sorry. I just wanted to make sure that I understood the entire landscape. OK. So sorry, Debbie. Go ahead.

So that 120 is Canada, North America. Right. Affiliates who have said, hey, we have a heart and we want to start the juvenile probation program. So when an affiliate, we have a large number of affiliates who contact us, like Matt said, and said, hey, we heard about it on Savant and we think we would be a great fit. So we have a conversation about it and then we talk about what the process looks like to start contacting your county or your government and going from there. And then we work with the county and the affiliate, kind of partner them together because there's a lot of logistics that happen from, hey, this is a great idea and day one of class. Right. And so we work with them to get all of that up and running and then once it's running we also provide continued support because an

affiliate owner once you open your doors you're not done needing help right you still need help hang on one sec my dad answered his phone sorry for the background hey yeah you can rake the leaves in the front yard yeah he's deaf too so i can tell that's awesome everyone's like is that my what's my dad doing at your house everyone's like yeah one of the hey matt do you guys have a champion in um what's the city you're in we're in salina ohio do you have a champion in salina like um uh like someone who sits on the like the mayor there where you can call another city and be like hey or someone the affiliate who like vouch to other mayors and other cities for you is that like how is this gonna like is there gonna be a tipping

point where this just starts spreading everywhere yeah when are we gonna get on and there's 20 of them that are active yeah well there's we have about 15 that are active right now. Oh, shit. What states are those in? All over. Go ahead. There's obviously a lot in Ohio. We have one in Chicago that has some great stories, too. We have one in Texas. We have one in Washington, D.C. Do you guys know CrossFit Trident Chris Smith?

Yes. He's a great guy he came to a retired navy seal um he did the row across the atlantic with those yeah he came yeah he's a great guy yeah he actually had an athlete who didn't have his l1 who heard about this um on your show who then contacted us came like the following week to our trauma training, went and got his L1 to be able to coach and start this program, went back to Chris, the owner, and said, hey, we're going to do this. And so then Chris came to the trauma training as well, and then they run the program together.

Yeah, they run the program. Are these affiliates making money off of this program? Is it sustainable? Oh, yeah. So, again, remember the state pays for the kids to be there. And how we set this up with the state and the affiliate is what is your membership rate? Let's say your membership rate is $100 a month or $150, whatever it is. We negotiate that with the county or the city that you're moving into. And let's say you have 15 kids in your program where you take that 150 times 15, and that's your monthly bill to the state.

And that's paid just by an invoice, straight invoice. What is that? 15 times 150, 2000. A lot of money. It's a significant amount of members. Well, that's significant as an affiliate owner, if you could have 15 new members into your gym and host them for three months and eventually turn them back either to be contributors as a coach or somebody that does something or just a long-standing member because

you plugged them with the job, that's a very significant pipeline for an affiliate. Thank you. There you go. That's a month. That's a month. When we were shut down, I opened early There you go. There you go. Yeah. That's a month. That's a month. That's a month. Right. That's a month. That's it.

Yeah. When we were shut down, I opened early though, but when we were shut down through COVID, the state never missed an invoice to us, never skipped a beat paying because- They can just print money. That's what's cool about the government. Yeah. We were hosting the juvenile kids that were home on a Zoom call. They did a workout via Zoom, and the program just kept rolling, and the money kept rolling in.

Are most of the programs successful? Is it flowing? Yeah. Do some people get into a program and they're like, oh, I can't do this. I can't handle this. Well, that's one of the things we vet the affiliates. Kids are gnarly.

Because I don't have a problem saying no to an affiliate that i'm not going to be able to work with you right now right um and and there that has happened that's also happened with non some non-crossfit gyms and i'm not saying you can't do it in a non-crossfit gym there are gyms who were helping do this right um but if you don't have community, then you're not going to be successful at the program. The other thing with it is just like any CrossFitter, these kids love to complain about CrossFit, right? So they go home or they go to school, just like Chrissy's kids. They don't only talk about CrossFit when they're in the room. They talk about CrossFit back at the pod. They talk about CrossFit in the hallway. They talk about CrossFit to the guards who are doing it with them. And so that 2250 that you're getting a month from the County could increase

because you've got school resource officers who come or parents who come or again, you build the community and it's going to grow your community and keep growing and keep growing. So it's a very sustainable. There's kids walking out of there at a Christie's program. And like, dude, I lifted 225 pounds off the ground today. And some of the kids like, no there at a christy's program and like dude i lifted 225 pounds off the ground today and some other kids like no you didn't he's like dude come

look at come to the program you could do it two in two months that's exactly what's happening ever since we got rid of the pvc majority was pvc and brought the barbells in it's the engagement is like crazy and they're young boys they're competing with each i mean there's a lot of chill out let's be safe you know like we don't need this program shut down but i mean i looked up it's crazy there was a kid that he i think he's like 17 and he back squat 455 pounds like nothing nothing and a 40 pound weight loss has got to be just all the other kids saw that too they must have been tripping they must have been like okay i want some of that yeah and then you know we have the guys that want to gain muscle and like i you know it's it's it's

awesome to see them like really thinking about because you know when i leave i think about it and i'm like they probably don't even think about these things. One, they're youth, two, who knows what their environment that they're coming from. And now it's like saying, all right, you want to be stronger. You want to back squat 455. Here are the things I need to see you do. And you're going to work towards a goal and we're going to clear your head and you're going to come in here focused. And, um, it's just, it's, yeah, it's wonderful to see. That might be the first time those kids have some sort of vision of themselves in the future and accomplishing something that is, that is positive for them and doing the discipline to work toward it than to like have that accomplishment at the end. My, my uh this resonated pretty much because one of my cousins was in and out of the

system he went in at 13 for uh armed robbery and he came out at 18 went back in came out at 21 your cousin uh-huh he got some stories bro and um now he's now he's behind bars for the rest of his life in san quentin and um one of the things that I always just thought about, too, is there was nothing there. He had no vision for himself. Then, okay, well, I'm out. Let me go grab a pistol. Let me go hold up a couple pharmacies. Now I got some drugs, and I'll make this and get some more money.

And boom, right back into that cycle. And it dawned on me because he only knew that as, I need to go into Walmart and steal this or that because I'm going to come back and bring that to my mom. And she's going to be stoked because now she could use that for drug money. And he's like, that's the only way he found validity in himself. Right. Like Savant said, his son writes a paper and he goes, oh, crap, we need to sit down and read this. Right. For my cousin, it was like, oh, you showed up with this.

Awesome. We could go buy drugs. Wow. And so that was what he had right and so to be able to take these kids and do what what you guys are doing and then switch that mechanism in their brain to something positive that they're doing for themselves is uh extremely powerful you know hold on once they know you you'll be up next chrissy ali trotch uh troche trot lee hayley oh lee uh wow great donation uh matt debbie and chrissy you are amazing is your venmo account at first underscore lady first and last take two at first underscore last no don't send money there i don't know who that is don't send money at all. We're not in it to get money. That's the notoriety.

Whatever you want to give them, just donate more to the show. Thank you. Give it to Siobhan. Give it to Siobhan. You know, our goal, and that's why we promote Chrissy. Anytime we talk about the facility, it's not us saying, well, look what we've done. It's Coach Chrissy and her staff. Look at what they've done.

It's her program. It's not ours. What were you going to say, Chrissy and her staff, look at what they've done. It's her program. It's not ours. What were you going to say, Chrissy? I was going to say, going off what he just said, that a lot of these boys in conversation I've had with them, their lives are better within these facilities, particularly the facility I'm at. When I first started, I was like,

it's so nice to see that they, they're in dorms, you know, they don't just lock them up and say like, see ya, you know, they're not rude to them all the time. Obviously they have to keep them in line, but they're seen, you know, their staff members I've seen there that like they view as like a grandmother figure and stuff like that. And I'm like, okay, we're working in the right direction here. We're heading this way. We don't want these kids to go back out, reoffend, and then want to come back here because it's the only time they're ever seen,

you know, and just continue that cycle over and over and over again. Do you look forward to going to that class? I do. I do. I mean, as I'm slowly learning, I didn't want to know the offenses in the beginning just because I wanted to go in, you know, clean slate. As I'm learning, some of my favorites are murderers, all of them. So it's like I love seeing, I look forward to seeing, like, feel like I'm helping or changing these boys. And that's not selfishly. It's like, okay, you murdered someone. But at the same time, like, you still have a chance to have life. Okay. I'm not going to see you just as that person. Is it terrible? Absolutely. It's awful. same time, I want to develop a relationship with you and let, you know, see that you're worthy of someone caring about you and wanting you to have goals and wanting you to get better. We're not

just going to say, all right, you messed up. See, we're just going to keep you locked up the rest of your life. So it's very gratifying to walk in and know that, you know, today might be the day that one of the kids is going to tell me they're getting released soon. I mean, that happens often. I'll walk in, they'll be like, Chrissy, guess what? I have two weeks, you know, and I love it. How long have you been there? It'll be a year, the end of May.

It's interesting how, I mean, like when you said that like i'm shocked like to my core because i don't hang out with any murderers do you know what i mean but for you it's a two day a week uh event yeah and you uh it's just it's it's it's wild to see it's it's wild i'm guessing that if you weren't excited to go to class every day, that it's not doable. It's hard. I mean, it's mentally, it's a lot. Some days I walk out. I think my twins have prepared me for all emotional, to have the strength in the world.

Right. But I'm not going to act like it's all sunshiny rainbows. I mean, there are times I walk out and I'm like, oh, my God. But I just view it as I just try to think to myself, all right, it's more than this. It's more than this. And I come back and then I'll have a great group. It's just I love it. And I can see through the bad times because when it's good, it's great.

see through the bad times because when it's good it's great you're putting something you're seeing people with some an amazing opportunity right in front of them and sometimes they don't grab it it's like kids often they don't grab it you take them out to eat you buy them a 60 steak because you're a fancy restaurant they're like i don't want to eat it you're like are you out of your fucking mind like like they want to eat a bowl of cereal and it's like i'm guessing it's like that you go there and you see hey guys we're in this room and we have an hour and a hundred percent not even 99 if you listen to me you're gonna leave here better you're gonna feel better you're gonna think better and and sometimes only five percent of the boys will grab at it right and you're just like and so that's that's the that's the tough part right because you know something yeah it uh when i worked with

developmentally disabled adults i learned this uh sort of this method and it's useful everywhere in life is always address the person don't address the behavior that's right and that's really really hard right when someone's like fuck you and I'm sure you get a lot of fuck yous. Fuck you. Oh, yeah. All right. Maybe not to my face, but I'm sure. But you really don't hear that in there?

Do they have a – when they're all together, they have a kind of like a – they live up to a certain social responsibility? So it's interesting you say that. As I'm learning learning you figure out who the head guy is so if this guy is in here they're all gonna listen if he's not you know it's craziness yeah yeah when you're mixing the pods or the units you know there are times kids come down the pass contraband then they leave you know and they picked up on those things but in the beginning of class it's rowdy because they never see each other and everyone's excited and they're

you know i really have to like reel them in um but yeah yeah no doubt one of the the latest programs that were started in the community um was in it's in chicago it's iron flag fitness uh jared jared and kelly mcgriff culver he is a nfl lineman or a linebacker for the raiders um come back open as affiliate he saw debbie and i and dr coon speak two years ago at the crossfit games and we had a speaking engagement. And out of that conversation, he come up and says, Hey, I got to start a program in my city. And I'm like, where is that at? Well, it's East side of Chicago. Oh, wow. And by the way, I've got a connection. So he sets us up with a judge in the East side of Chicago. We get a program running. It started last month.

No, it started in January. Started in January going off the rails popular just, you know, so he, here's a guy that's truly giving back to the community that he came out of hit. It was extremely successful in his life, played in the NFL, but he's got a heart. And so does Kelly to say, Hey, I want to help the kids that need it the most. And we are in the highest crime ridden city in the world, right? Chicago. And they're helping. That's the cool part about it. One of his first stories, and he would love to share it. He shared it. We do a monthly call with the affiliates we have up and running to, for support and data and things like that. And he was telling us that in probably two weeks in, one of the boys showed up with brass knuckles. And you know, you can't really bring that. And so the probation officer who was bringing him was like, he's out, he's done. That was his shot.

He's done. And Jared went to the probation officer and went to the court and said, absolutely not. He needs to know he can't bring it. And that was a bad choice. Just like all these kids. They're not bad kids. That was a bad choice. And I want him back. I want him back the very next class.

He's not, I don't want him to go to JDC for this. He needs to know the standard. He needs to know the expectation. And he needs to know the expectation that he's back. And the kid had never in his life ever had anyone fight for him. So it was a flip of the switch. I mean, he's 100% all in effort, you know, bringing the other kids in, getting them excited because he'd never seen that before.

He didn't think he was valued enough for anyone to fight for him. Jared will have that kid for life. Wow. Hey, that's the only value of playing in the NFL, by the way. And Fisa Goff, he said it yesterday. The only value of being a professional athlete is what you parlay it into. So this guy's a professional athlete. So obviously, you know, he can call a judge and be like, hey, I'm so-and-so.

I played for the Raiders. The judge is probably a football fan. They start talking. He's like, hey, judge, can you do me a favor? And obviously the guy's a hard worker. He made it to the NFL. But that's the only value of being a professional athlete is what are you going to do? Our only value as human beings is what we do for other human beings.

Thank you. If you run a hot dog stand, you're selling hot dogs. Thank you. You're a musician. You're, you're selling hot dogs. Thank you. You're a musician. You're on the street corner. You're playing music for us to listen to. Thank you. You're out there begging.

You're not adding any value. You're not adding any value to society. Hey, those people who are adding the most value to society, I guarantee you there's a direct relationship to their happiness too. People who are not contributing are not happy. Every miserable person you see, angry person you see, it's because they're not giving.

I know it sounds cliche and I sound like an old man, but fuck what I've learned. This statement goes along exactly with what you're saying. And we use this when we talk to counties and the statement goes this way. a child who does not feel embraced by its community will burn it down to feel its warmth wow and that that summarizes exactly what you just said and the microcosm is having three kids at home too if a kid doesn't feel warmth they'll fucking burn your fucking house down you're right right they will they will they'll call they'll wreak fucking havoc if they don't feel if yeah if they're not getting the the yeah wow and that goes for the adult sector as well if i'm an adult and i don't have a community where i feel embraced i'm going to do everything i can to go against that community

or find something that i do feel connected to. And a lot of times it's drugs, alcohol, theft, murder. You know, Christy was talking about murder is one of the biggest questions we get. And we've worked with the Arizona Supreme Court in this same program. So it's gone from local county to Supreme Courts. Their first question is, okay, what kid don't you want? Because most of the programs that are pro-social for kids that are in trouble they don't want the highest offenders they don't want the murderers they don't want the rapist they don't want somebody that's committed high crime by a gun in our world just like chris says no we want them if there's a chance for rehabilitation then we

want to give them that opportunity i don't care where you come from or what your background is. If you're willing to change, then I should be as an affiliate owner, as a human being, I should be willing to help foster that change. And the reason Kelly or the reason Chrissy's, Chrissy's is as successful as she is, is because she has a lot of S's. It's a lot of S's, Chris. Sorry, say that again, Matt. The reason why she's successful is what?

It's because she embodies that heart. She embodies that, listen, if you will give me a chance, I will change your life. And not everyone is wired that way, unfortunately. Not all CrossFit affiliates are wired that way. Unfortunately, not all Crossfell affiliates are wired that way. Well, it's not easy to, I mean, you have to be in the right place in your life. It sounds like Chrissy's in that spot. Yep. Hey, uh, I'm looking forward to our next conversation. Chrissy, thanks for coming on. How do you say your last name? Impoletti. Impoletti. Impoletti. Yes. Thank you for having me. Yeah.

Her husband runs one of those mafia gang related Impoletti. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like the name sounds like that. We can't talk about it. Look at the wood paneling in that room. Rich mahogany. Yeah. That's right.

That's where the family meets. She's got a big stogie just off the, you can't see it. Off the side. And a dead cat. All right, guys. Hey, thank you very much.

I know this isn't the last time we'll do this. Talk to you guys in a few months. Great having you guys always on. Chrissy, thank you. All you guys stay in touch. Matt, Debbie,

you guys are amazing. Let me know if there's anything you, you ever want to. Chrissy, thank you. Thank you. All you guys stay in touch. Matt, Debbie, you guys are amazing. Let me know if there's anything you ever want to come back on and talk about. I'm sure there is. We'll see you guys in a few months. Okay. Sounds good. Thanks, guys. Thank you.

Oh, one last thing. Where do people get in touch with you? Yes. So we have Expanding Horizons Instagram page. And I need to give a shout out to kelly who i believe is listening here um a young lady that she had a rough life herself was in prison for i think i'm allowed to say this kelly i'm sorry but she was in a car accident that caused a death um she went to prison for a while came out got a hold of dale king from wow from this podcast from this podcast

got a hold of Dale and said, Hey, I want to try one of those juvenile things. They all send her our way. And now she runs all of our social media. Oh, it started happening like three weeks ago because we're not, we're not savvy with anything like that.

We can work in a court system and on the floor of a CrossFit gym. I can't create a social media post. What's the Instagram account? Expanding Horizons. Expanding Horizons. Slip into the DMs there, and then this lady, Kelly, will forward the...

You can email me at debbie at crossfitcrave.com. Don't email Matt. He'll forget. Debbie at debbie, D-E-B-B-I at crossfitcrave.com. D-E-B-B-b-i at crossfit crave.com d-e-b-b-i-e okay thanks guys all right thank you thank you christy hey guys it's nice to meet you i definitely got to do that i got to figure out how to get that going here

I gotta figure out how to get that going here. I'm going on a podcast today at 935. Yeah. What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you nervous? No. Well, I am a little nervous. I don't want to fuck it up.

Jesus, dude. I'm fucking podcasting. I don't want to fuck it up. But I don't do podcasts. But I really like Garrett, and I want to hang out with her. And so it's a good excuse to block off time and hang with her. Let's do something in the private chat for you and Caleb. I don't feel good. My stomach's been doing weird shit. What do you mean?

Like nauseous or like do i know who this person is i just talked about him oh oh shit wow wow is this oh damn oh no it's old yeah wow and you know it's funny there? It notes the length of... That's your cousin? Yeah, and it notes the length of what happened. For like 50% of that high-speed chase, he was on the phone with my mom. He's got his own nickname. Yeah, bro. He was a legit criminal.

Fuck yeah. He stole from me a lot when we were kids too. That makes sense. Like I made the joke, I think, on a couple times and like my dad would be like all right we're having the family over for christmas hide your cash boys no shit tuck the playstation away yeah yeah man oh my god so he's just a big time drug dealer. Fuck. Big time idiot. But it's hard to blame him because like the story that I was telling you about, hey, go in here and steal this because you're too young. And, you know, if you get caught, we're just going to play the game of, oh, my gosh, he was in there. I am so sorry.

Oh, he was recruiting grooming you to be a crook? No, no, no, no. My aunt was having him go into places oh shit oh so oh so dude imagine imagine two years ago right because would you say that the twins are seven yeah so imagine yeah imagine two years ago you selling marion joseph into a fucking walmart and saying walking through the aisles and then saying grab this grab this grab this mom will meet you at the at the front of the store and that's what they're doing for your attention and for your affection. Oh, shit.

And that's the only way to get attention. Instead, I got him into tennis. I fucked up. You idiot. Yeah, I tried to send him the L1 probably like five or six years ago, and it was so hard to get into quentin because you have to go page by page certain publications aren't allowed you have to like mail it in small sections at a time and hayley had to do that several times uh someone in the prison wanted uh level one and

so she'd have to send it page by page it was it was fucking pointless oh i mean 100 and sometimes it doesn't even get to them. And it's like this weird position because you'll get a letter. Like I'd be joking with some of my friends back in the day and you would see like the mail and I'm like,

you guys ever seen one of these? And it's like from San Quentin, you know? And so it has all the official mailing on it and how everything, all the markings that has to come from it. And, you know, you'd read the letters from them and stuff like that. And come from it. And, you know, you'd read the letters from them and stuff like that.

And yeah, it's a weird position because part of you wants to just be like, you know, you fucking did it to yourself, dude, whatever you hit an old lady in the head with a rock and carjacked her at a gas station. Like I'm supposed to feel bad for you.

Yeah. And then at the same time, you like, you know, I know the history, right? Like he, I,

he watched somebody, he watched a gang and a man Tika beat a guy to death with a two by four and when the cops questioned him they didn't really offer him much in terms of protection and so when he told the story what happened it wasn't long that the people who did it knew exactly who told oh and um his idea for protection at that time i mean dude he was 12 years old so So think about this in the, in the case of Avi, like, you know, he's experiencing this two years from now at the life that he's at and, uh, not to mention the ecosystem of a drug addict, right? Like, you know, all that, that, that would entail. And, um, and so yeah, to, to watch somebody, to witness somebody get murdered and then to go to school and then have the cops storm into where

everybody sees it pulls you out and then arrest people right there. They know you fucking did it. And what are you supposed to do as that young 12 year old? Right. So then within six months, you're looking to find your own protection on the street. So you acquire a handgun and now you're told, hey, you know, imagine your fucking kids running around right now at their ages with a handgun, bro. And then you go into a liquor store and rob it

and uh within a few weeks later they find you and your only option is to run back into that store and confess to what you did for some sort of protection and you ain't getting it at home right right and that's your introduction into the system they're like oh this isn't so bad they give me food and a bed and structure structure and then they'll send me out a couple months or years and yeah it's we'll do it again crazy it's it's crazy it's crazy yeah anyhow this is a good this is a good line along those lines i know a guy who grew up in questionable circumstances says jeffrey birchfield he always tells people he had one brother who went to penn state and one who went to the state pen yeah he was an only child at the time

god i heard i went to dinner last so so i just last night um joseph climbs into bed with me that's uh one of the twins and he's sleeping and And then I, at 1250, I hear some sounds and he's sitting up and he's just barfed all over the bed. Oh. And two days ago he barfed in the middle of the night too. And then my other son, last night we went out to dinner and I took one of my sons to the bathroom like four times. So there's gotta be something going around in my family, like in the, like with our stomachs.

Like I just can't get going down. Yeah yeah i just feel like i'm on a roller coaster yeah damn that sucks i know it does suck it's weird but i did just drink a cup of coffee it seems to be killed it off good hey but i did um i have the i did pull this paper bag here in case i throw up on the show. Oh, my gosh. Are you serious? Yeah. Yeah, he's dead serious. There's never like a bag in there like that.

Like that for sure was taken from like Haley's stash of recycled bags and brought in that room. You feeling it coming on? I know. What just happened right there? The whole show, I felt like I'm going to throw up. But not like bad, not like my mouth's watering, but I can't get fully in my thoughts because a little bit of me is like,

you know like when you're like doing a, you know like when you crash on a bicycle, you're like automatically like, okay, you're laying there. You're like, you're doing like the Ironman thing. You're running a body scan. You feel yourself get really sweaty right before you throw up that's how yeah yeah yeah i love that feeling because that actually also makes me feel like i'm about to be better yes right yeah oh scott my body's skyrocketing temperature to it's like it's microwaving the bad guys that's right yeah i'm like oh here we go hit the eject button yeah you guys we're gonna

burn you fuckers. It feels worse to be nauseous than it is to actually throw up. A hundred percent. That's like the worst part of it, just sitting there and like, oh. Dude. I was at dinner last night and I just heard something so crazy. I don't even know if this is the right show to say it on there were these people to dinner table talking about why all the items they're like yeah when you go into a

CVS now everything's locked up hmm or when you go into a Walmart everything's locked up are you going to target everything's locked up and I'm like but you know why that is right and they're like no tell us it's because of Joe Biden did you ask what they think it's a problem no I'm like yeah I'm like no seriously do you know why it is and they're like no

I'm like no come on seriously I can't even fucking believe it I'm like seriously do you know why it is and they're like no I'm like no come on seriously I can't even fucking believe it I'm like you don't know why it is and they're like no and I'm like do you remember George Floyd they're like yeah

of course they do I just can't believe no one fucking I can't believe there's someone I don't know what world they live in. For those of you who don't know, this is what fucking happened. George Floyd happened, and then this huge wave of anti-cop sentiment happened along the same time with allow anyone with dark skin to steal whatever they want. time with allow anyone with dark skin to steal whatever they want and that might be a little bit exaggerated but not much it's the real simple explanation of what fucking happened that's it nothing more nothing nothing nothing less no covid no nothing george floyd od'd on fucking fentanyl he died with three times the fucking deadly dose if they found you if they

found you with one dead in your house with one third of what george floyd tested for for fentanyl it would be it would be it would be uh considered a overdose they found with three more but okay let's say you don't think he killed himself so then you turned it into some sort of racist thing even though it was a black cop who was first on the scene who arrested him. What happened was George Floyd happened in fucking liberal, super racist America, felt bad for how racist they were, and they let people because of the color of their skin commit any fucking crimes they want and not arrest them and so it's fucking the great purge white liberal america is so fucking racist that they they don't they don't recognize skin color as a correlate they think it's a fucking cause and they've told every single fucking black person on this in the united states it's okay to steal and they've told every cop if you arrest him you're in big fucking trouble that's it end of story that's why we that's fucking like why exactly why and same with the fucking trannies same with the fucking pedophiles everyone's been

let off the fucking hook because of racist fucking liberal america that's it there's nothing more to it the catalyst the tipping point was george floyd that's it. There's nothing more to it. The catalyst, the tipping point was George Floyd. That's it. And so every fucking liberal politician is trying to stay in office by further pushing the racist agenda. That's it. I don't see how, like what fucking rock did you live under that you don't fucking see this happening everywhere around you? It's fucking mind-boggling to me.

Did they offer anything? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know what they offer? Let's not talk about this. Do you know why they don't want to talk about it? Because it's racist. Because they say shit like well we'll never get along or we'll never fucking um you'll never convince me i'll

never convince you i'm not trying to fucking convince you it's just i'm stating the fucking facts dude and how the interview 20 fucking cops they can all be black cops they'll tell you the same fucking thing it's all because of fucking the fucking liberals are so fucking racist and they have such a need for racism to fucking exist that they're just pushing it to the fucking up to extent and their way of compensating for it is to let black america know you can steal whatever the fuck you want you are the most entitled people ever. We will kiss your shoes. And what's happening? Stores everywhere are closing.

No one wants to say that 51% of all the murders in this country are committed by people with black skin and have penises. That's 6% of the population. Because they conflate skin color as a cause and a correlate, and so it makes them uncomfortable, I get it, then you don't have to say it, but stay the fuck out of the way for the people who can say it. Stop pretending like you care about people based on their skin color.

You're getting fucking girls raped. You're getting fucking people's lives ruined. You know, it's crazy too, is like you said, stop caring about people because their skin color, they don't even care about those people. They only care about their self image around the core horse.

Exactly. Exactly. People. It's like, they don't even, because if you actually fucking cared, you would look at the situation for what it was and start to make real progress towards, towards helping and fixing it.

Not just perpetuating the same bullshit that they implemented in the first place. And then all don't want to say things. Hey, dude, you've been around so many of these type of people where they'll agree and head nod with everybody. And then you kind of catch them and you're peeing in the urinal, they pee next, and they kind of leave. They're like, hey, dude, I hear what you're saying. I just don't want to say it in front of people. Oh, my God. I'm surrounded by those fucking pussies.

Or you walk out of the restaurant together and they're like, hey, hey, dude, I know what you're I know where you're going with this. And I agree. I just you know, I just didn't want to say anything and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And the worst ones, the worst ones, by the way, are the people with money, the people with the actual fuck you money in, in the rich people that are

too afraid to say anything because they're going to lose their audience or they're going to lose some of their money in it and everything else. But they, they're not holding true to their beliefs and they're fricking cowards. I did see a James Townsend's race results. I was trying to get them on this morning. I can't wait to hear it. I want to hear the details of all the juicy details. I want to know what shoes he was wearing, what he was thinking. I invited him on. I think he was going to church or something. He's coaching.

He said he could come on at 9, but I need to take a break before I go on glinting things. By the way, let me see if I can find that. Yeah, can we link the podcast for people to watch? Glinting things. I was so happy to see how shitty their thumbnail was i was like all right they're they they make some fucked up shit like we do too i mean we may i'm not that our thumbnails are shitty but they did exactly and i'll ask her i'm like you going for the atari look on the thumbnail uh hold on let me uh how do i how do i share a link so people can oh yeah i don't feel damn it uh-oh uh-oh um odd suggested a little ginger have you tried a little

little home remedy of some ginger and uh soda water no maybe i should a little sparkler and ginger i'm pretty probably just gonna go get on the assault bike i could also help i can't i can't find i can't figure out how to do a link i got oh oh thank you let's got us okay i just i was just like blown away like how do you not know that that's what happened like just just pull over one cop and be like hey if you see a white guy swinging a box cutter around or you see a black guy swinging a box cutter around, what do you do? If you see a black person – I mean how do they fucking not know? Let's not even do the color thing.

Why – what do they think happened to the collapse of – they're watching the collapse of civilization and they have no fucking like we completely fucking emasculated our police departments yeah there's two really scary things happening the the first one is what you're talking about the essentially the the lack of um of shoot what's the word i'm i'm looking for when you're being held accountable laws and the law. Accountable for people's personal responsibility and inflation. Which they're also refusing to admit what's happening with inflation. Even when we were watching the State of the Union, it was like, it's down to three. Like, fuck you.

No, it isn't. And let's talk about the housing inflation. But dude, even if I was poor, Matt, I just don't want violence, dude. No, I mean, 100%. I'm just saying those are the two scariest things. Because, hey, what happens with deflation? The purchasing power of the dollar goes down.

What happens when the purchasing power of the dollar gets down? The government gets overthrown. I mean, you see the circulatory thing multiple, multiple, multiple times. You watch what happened in Brazil. The government got overthrown. Where else did it happen? In Venezuela. Then it was taken over by a military dictatorship for a period of time like in the 60s and the 70s like this is what happened so once the inflation rises

and the people can no longer live and then on top of that we've now introduced a whole new section of crime and california hates small business california hates personal responsibility so mix those two things together and it's just it you're just waiting for some sort of overthrow or collapse i mean that's exactly how hitler did it too in world war ii right they were unable to pay their debts they're fucking the whole entire country was in turmoil and he was able to say hey i'm going to save us and point the finger at the bad guys which was the jews and everything else and that's how he got the rise of power man and don't forget he made a gun he made owning a gun illegal also wonder why hey what do you think about this um sean strickland goes off he's like

fuck it i would never want a gay son and trannies are mentally ill and he did all that shit right right and then he loses the fight and he blames it because of the political statements he said that's kind of weak right that's 100% weak but Sean Sean Strickland I like Sean but I don't even know I don't think I like him you don't like him no I think he wants I think he's I think he's whatever happened to him early on in his life with his childhood she's he's so trying to prove something to somebody that is willing to do stuff to people who don't deserve it and he's also willing to just be crass for the sake of being crass without actually having the tools up here to understand that he's not that enlightened yet i just wish he wouldn't have like he he played the victim all of a sudden exactly that's what i

mean he doesn't have the tools come on and no i a i took two shits this morning sorry i uh did you did you not deuce and shower this one i did all that look at my hair i'm having a fucking great hair i put gel on my hair to prepare for garrett's podcast you look good thank you you can make it uh uh prop 47 past 2014 reduced theft under 950 to a misdemeanor yeah 100 and more and more and more of those things happened. And that's, that was all the little steps that ushered into where we are today. I grew up in a, the Bay area where you grew up, you're taught that the American flag is bad, that, um, the worst thing that anyone could ever call you as a racist. That you should basically be afraid of black people.

And not afraid like. Like. They're dangerous afraid. But you should walk on eggshells around them. Right. Like you could never tell someone black. That they're. Like you know the famous line.

If you told someone black. Wow you're crazy articulate. That somehow that would be implied that it's racist. That you're implying that they're not. That's fucked up to say. Yeah, the political correctness shit was whack. That all Republicans were bad. Yeah, rich people are bad. Rich people are bad, yeah.

It's just pumped into you nonstop. And yet the first time you go to fucking Texas, when your mom walks in the room, all the men stand up. And you've never seen that in your fucking life you know what i mean yeah or the people down in the south are really cordial and like asking you when they're helpful and you're like wait a minute i thought you guys were portrayed as dummy racist hillbillies or are you going to nashville in the club the black club is uh and white club is the same club it's mixed 50 50 you go to san francisco you don't ever see

that shit i don't think people realize how like they probably think you're you're like exaggerating it or something no no growing up in the same area as you you're not exaggerating matter of fact you might be downplaying it in some cases yeah yeah i mean it's it's so and you don't you don't even see it though at the time because it's just normal you don't know until you until you get out of it it's like xavier said that black guy we had on the show from livermore he's like holy shit i thought the cops were hated black people because the tv told me cops hated black people dude and he he recently he was marching for blm over here in dublin yeah which was hilarious by the way because they kind

of like made a safe space for everybody in the tri-valley to march dublin's the whitest town in the world by the way rich white town going yeah and uh he literally was over there marching like with his mask on with the sign like hardcore into it and i remember like conversations with him because i had he had been you know a member of the gym for a while and same circle of friends and stuff and all of a sudden you just saw him because he's intelligent and so he's like i I'm looking into this. I'm going to find more points to prove my arguments and everything else. And all of a sudden he unfucked himself and was like, wait a minute. I'm on the wrong side of the fence.

He accidentally researched himself into the truth. A hundred percent. Judy Reed, white men are bad. Yeah. And Xavier has been killing it lately. Do you see him with Ben Shapiro? He's been on Fox news multiple times now i checked another day i said right on bro keep going yeah he's he's awesome he's look at it it's the tooth powder peddler dale king put a dab of matutheon on your balloon knot and you'll be uh right as rain science what's your balloon

knot is that something like around your testicles or something? I don't know. Is that a military term? Like Caleb knows. What's the balloon knot? That's your butthole. Oh, Jesus Christ. How do you know stuff like that? Because that's what dudes in the military make up terms like that. Balloon knot.

That's all we talk about. Buttholes and nutsacks. It's a cheerio is Sevan a white man? no you know the answer to that I'm more Bin Laden than David Beckham I'm more Bin Laden than Beckham wow

oh did you see today's question for the poll? No. Oh, he's... You don't run this show, Jake. Shut your pie hole. Shut your butthole. Yeah, shut your balloon nut. God, Audrey, you love buttholes.

I do not love buttholes. Shit, I forgot. I don't know where it went. it was something about if somebody told you your penis is just the right size is it better than saying it's too small or something like that oh i'll answer that yes yes you can ask a chick or something like that yeah you could ask a chick and be like well what do you think it's like yours is perfect i love it. Yeah, you could ask a chick and be like, well, what do you think? They'd be like, yours is perfect. I love it.

It's such the right size. And you're immediately offended as a dude. Yeah, yeah. It's hurt. You're like, what's that show? What's the cowboy show with Kevin Costner? Yellowstone? Yellowstone.

Yellowstone. I always forget how small your penis is. Do you remember that? It was like in episode one. Let me see if I can. I always remember your dick. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Here it is. Oh, here it is. Okay. Let me see if I can. Fuck you, Caleb. I can do stuff too. Let me see if this is it.

Funny. I always remember your dick being bigger. Damn. She just fucked him and then that's what she said. That's funny. Oh, it's so messed up. I always remember your dick being bigger. Oh, Beth is awesome.

She's a great girl. Jeez. I guess that. Damn. Jeez. I guess that's just enough stabbing. Jeez. God damn. Fuck, that's rough. Your girl told me once your penis is perfect

because the big ones hurt. I wanted to end my life thank you for sharing poor boy that's fantastic dude yesterday i went to a softball game and my wife turns to me and she goes don't look now but over your right shoulder there's a dude holding a camera and it's like third it's like 32 degrees outside so it's like cold as fuck she goes he has a massive dick i was like really so i turn and look and this guy's wearing like gray sweatpants and his fucking dong is like pushed through his sweatpants and he's just holding this camera like this and you just just see it just hang in there. Was it Henrik Kappelainen?

Was it that dude that we had on the show? It was like, it was like all this open X. All this, all this open. Yeah. It's like, holy hell.

What happens if you, what, uh, what happens if you type in all this penis? Old, oldest open next. Did we, well, you know what you're going to get. Did you see the guy's girlfriend?

No. My nuts were shriveled up in my stomach last night. I don't know how you just... Caleb's a hog gazer. Sorry. Gotta admire the peace,

man. Did you know him? No, never seen him in my life. God, how funny would that be? If you walked up to him and like, Hey,

I could see your hog. Hey dude, like what you're packing. Congrats. Hey, uh, you know, it's not,

it's not open carry in this state. Is that considered considered concealed carry or how's that work you got a license for that besides lensy carrying uh libby saw one at the jail in a body scanner that defined reality oh my god i want to see that crazy oh my god i love seeing those videos of cops doing pat downs they're like what's this they're like that's my penis that's my cock oh okay all right damn okay i'm just imagining that one in the body scanner imagine your wife comes home from work she's like you're like how was work today dude i saw this giant cock in the body scanner imagine your wife comes home from work she's like you're like how was work today dude i saw this giant cock in the body scanner we thought he was sneaking in a small child oh shit dang god if i was a chick i would do crazy shit i would do crazy shit i think if i was if i was a chick and i saw that in the body scanner

i would be i would like okay put your hands on the wall and i'd take a hand i'd grab it hey sorry i had to check yeah you got to move it around make sure you're not holding anything you could get away with murder if you're a girl in a prison just fucking with those dudes that would change that guy's life i was i was on an airplane one time in the back in the bathroom area waiting to use the bathroom and someone walked by and there was a stewardess there and she looks over her shoulder she goes oh excuse me and she backs up and just pushes her ass on my cock so someone can go by and holds it there it's probably like a one two three but it felt like six months i was there and i was close to i was close to ejaculating like what the fuck is going on i was just

completely hold on hold on yeah don't move yeah stop stop stop i can't take any more question because i know immediately what your thought wait you're like oh she probably wants to bang like no well i didn't know what she thought no one's ever done that to me unless they were like unless i paid them i don't even know my wife got pregnant i wonder what chicks think when they do that like i wonder if they're just like oh god this dude probably thinks something and this is just the tight quarters or if they're like if they know too i don't know what she knew you know do you know i was like man i'm i'm i thought two things fuck i might be straight and i wonder if she knew she did that did you know i'm flying Southwest only for now on.

Are the quarters tight in the bathroom area? Time to get to stand up as they get ready to walk by. Oh, sorry. I didn't see you there. All right. See you guys in 33 minutes. Yeah, one Mississippi. Two Mississippi.

Yeah, thank you. See, Travis, she definitely knew. I don't know. I think it's just dudes that think that. I think the chicks in here might disagree. You know what, Daniel? That's a good point. How short was the flight attendant?

You know what? As I told the story, I was trying to picture it. Maybe it wasn't her butt. Oh, shit. But but that is the kind of thing I would do if I was a stewardess or if i had like big titties or something like if i was a chick i would like always like in safe places i'd be like rubbing them against people or like i would just torture dudes i'm leaning forward to hand a dude a drink on the other yeah i would be just fucking destroying dudes every time i got a haircut that was like a teenager i always thought that you're like

you know they're sitting there like yeah yeah. I always thought that. You're like, you know, they're sniffing your hair. Are her boobs against you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like they pop up on your shoulder. You're like, I don't know what to do. You know, like the dog gives you that like out of the side look. It's like how you are up at her boob. When ladies with big tits hug my kids, I always laugh.

I like, I'm so happy for them. I'm like, do they know? They're like, oh, come here. I'm like, oh, They're like lost in there. Yeah, enjoy it, boys. You got five more years and that shit goes out the window. Yeah, before they're like, fuck you. Yeah.

All right. 31 minutes. I'll be back on Glint and Things. We're probably not going to talk about much. She's really into Scrabble. I'm really into that game Boggle. Probably argue about which game is better Do you guys know Boggle?

Yeah Yeah Yeah Good times I might throw up on the show There'll be a lot I think there's going to be a live show tonight too In studio

The whole studio has been only built for one guest. I can't tell you who it is. Bye-bye. Thanks, Caleb.