The Sevan Podcast - Rachel Hives | Fittest Mother

Episode Date: September 18, 2024

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Are you still in,you're still in Scotland? No, I'm in Texas now and it's so hot. Unbelievably hot. When did you get there? I got there on Friday, about 10 o'clock Friday night. Okay, so you've been there for a minute. Yeah, a few days. We thought we'd come out a tiny bit early just to try and acclimatize, but coming from

Scotland to this heat is completely different. Is it hot? Is the AC strong enough to keep your place cool? It's OK. It's getting there. And there's lots of fans on the go at the moment. And yeah, it's warm. I was just in Sacramento, California.

It's probably, I don't know, 2,000 miles from where you're at, but it was really hot. And I was in the house. and the house had an upstairs and downstairs and three air conditioners. And the upstairs, I don't think dropped below 80 for like two days with the air conditioner on full blast. So hopefully your place will eventually cool down. Yeah, it's not too bad to be honest.

I'm kind of thinking that it was like a bit of a treat because in Scotland it's never this warm. So it's quite nice just to be able to walk by with a t-shirt on and be like oh there's sun on my skin this is amazing so yeah I'm fully taking it in. And how's the time change? It's actually okay I think I didn't really sleep an awful lot on the flight over and yeah my back ended up going into like massive like spasms and it's been an awful lot of pain for the journey across here. So I didn't get much sleep. So by the time I did actually get here, I just passed it.

I woke up and it was kind of a normal time. So I've settled in and it's OK. Nice. By the way, congratulations, San Antonio, September 19 to the 22nd. And you're competing in what division? I'm in the standing diagnosed division. Say it was say that again one more time standing diagnosed standing diagnosed

And tell me that tell me that what is that division? What does it mean standing diagnosed? So for us there's quite a mix very Discipline disabilities within it. There's a few girls that are deaf. There's people like myself. I've got functional neurological disorder. So basically my brain doesn't communicate to my body properly and it pops me in a wheelchair quite a lot. I lose my vision a lot. My cognitive function isn't the best. Yeah, so my arm's at the moment. I can't really feel my arm from here down the way, but it's moving, which is good. I get massive spasms, seizures, all that sort of thing.

So yeah, it's quite a varied category. There's quite a lot of us with, well, I'm neurological anyway, but there's people with joint issues and then people obviously with death. That are death. So it's quite varied. Rachel, is that different than the... There was another category that I want to say Russell Almonddinger was in. Is that the neurological? Is it different than that? Yes, well it is different. I'm not sure the way that they've done everything. Obviously I'm standing at the moment and I've got a diagnosis.

I'm like, yeah, that's me. I'm probably in the right category But I'm not 100% sure How they worked everything out. I was like, I'm just gonna go with it and hope for the best really Okay, so So if you're if you're missing an arm Obviously, it's obvious right you'll be like, okay, you're in the guys with one arm missing or if you're missing a, or if you're I know that they have the upper body and then they have three or if your legs aren't working, I think they have two or three categories for that based on how much hip. But is standing diagnosed? Is it a catch all category? I think so. It's just completely varied. Yeah, really, really varied. I don't know how they work out, but we're all standing at the moment, all with some form of diagnosis. I'm like, there we go, we're here.

And so did you just ask someone? You're like, hey, you hand them your diagnosis and you're like, put me in a category. Yeah, I was speaking to the team from Wheelwad. I was like, I'm not 100% sure where I would fit into this because I think at the time when I'd been speaking to Wheelwad, I was like I'm not 100% sure where I would fit into this because I think at the time when I'd been speaking to Wheelwad, my left leg wasn't working. I felt like I could still stand on it so I don't really know where I go so I ended up having to support them like loads of paperwork, medical reports, doctors reports, kind of a bit about my history and what's happened to me over the past few years and then it

popped me into my category and I'm like, oh, sweet, that's me registered. It's really amazing how Kevin pulls this off because there are so many categories. I bet you, I haven't talked to him, but I'm guessing that his number one priority is to get everyone in and get everyone placed. And because there's so many nuances to the situations people are in and their diagnosis,

it's crazy impressive. So congratulations for going and being part of such a great organization and great event. Thank you so much. I think it's incredible because there's so many different categories. There's 15 different categories throughout, male and female. And everybody's so, so different.

Like at the moment, I'm training with with Liam Smith who's one of the guys from the UK and him and his coach OD they're amazing they're really really funny really good guys he's also in standing diagnosed as well and then I'm also training with Henry Dunn who has his arm amputated from about there and then when his coach shorts as well so they're're really, really cool guys. So it's nice to have a lot of home comforts over here. My superficial audience is already weighing in on your looks. She's cute. The red hair is brilliant.

I'm happy to say you will be objectified here very nicely. I'm going to just not look at the comments. here very nicely. I'm gonna just not look at the comments side of things. I was speaking to, I think it's Yon Clark. Yeah. I know he speaks to you quite a bit. I'm not too sure, I feel a bit nervous, a little bit nervous. I'm fine to go out and do the workouts, all the rest of it. But actually speaking about things, I'm like, oh no, I'm not too sure. And he said, oh, you'll be fine, just don't look at the comments. Whatever you do. I was like, OK. That's me. Don't look at the comments. And you're a great mom, too, by the way. I really appreciate the posts where you show that you're working out with your son

and the time you spend with him. Do you have one child? I've got two children. I've got a daughter, Ila. She's five. My son, he's seven. And they're so cool. They're just like my little best friends.

Yeah, I think it must have been, was it the one when we were benching in the garage that you see? Yes. Yeah, he was off school that day and typical, I was like, he was not feeling well in the morning. So I'm like, did we put him to school? Did we not?

I'm like, if I put him to school, they're gonna follow me just as I get to the gym. So I was like, right, you can stay off. Kept him off for a little bit and he wasn't well. And it got to about 12 o'clock in the afternoon. He's like, mom, you need to train now. I was like, okay, right, I'm going to be your coach today. And he's like, okay, no bother. So that was me and him in the garage

just having the best time. And I know since I've been over here, he's been staying with my auntie. So he set up a gym at her house made out of toilet roll boxes and put a broom handle atop. He's like, this is when you pull up fire. I'm like, you're so cool. You've taught him well. Rachel, I want to go back to, I went through, dug through your Instagram and it sounds like almost like every morning you wake up and you don't know what you're going to get and that your situation is moment to moment. I want to, is this something you were born with? No, I've been absolutely fine with the majority of my life. When I was 19, I woke up and I was fully paralysed on my left-hand side. It looked like I had a stroke, so obviously they put me into hospital and they tested me for things like MS Parkinson's, strokes,

various different cancers, all that sort of thing. They just couldn't put a finger on what it was. I was in hospital for ages and eventually they came out with a diagnosis functional neurological disorder, which is basically my communication between my brain and my body had just gone, nope, I've had enough. Don't want to like communicate anymore. So if you think of your nervous system

as like a bicycle chain, every so often one of the links will pop off the chain and then you've got to retrain it on how to work. And so that took me about a year and a half pretty much to get my face working, my arm working, my leg back to normal, back up and standing. And yeah, it was not nice. It was really, I remember being 19 at the time and being like, Oh my gosh, what has happened to me? Yeah, because I've always been quite active. I ski quite a lot, I used to dance and to be, have all of that kind of taken away from you and not know what was going on, that was

really, really scary. But now, I don't know, I'm a bit older now, I'm 34 now, so I know that when these episodes do actually happen, that I know that they will pass, I've just got to actually work my ass off to get them to kind of come back to normal and get my body back moving again as well. And don't get me wrong, it's absolutely horrible at the time, especially sometimes if it lasts for more than a couple of weeks, I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm going to be stuck like this for like a year, however long.

And it's heartbreaking because Hamish now knows if I wake up in the morning, he's like, right, mom, it's fine. I'll just go get your wheelchair. He comes across with my wheelchair and I'm like, how how crap is this for my kids to have to actually help out in that way? But at the same time, they see it as something fun because then they get rides on the wheelchair. They get to go flying up and down in the huddle on it.

And like my whole house is adapted, my car is adapted. Everything's been done just to make sure that like our life doesn't change too much when things aren't working properly. Because we still want to have fun at the end of the day. So you can go to bed and everything functioning fine and wake up and not be able to walk? Yeah, yeah it's not great. Tell me about this diagnosis is it because they don't know? Like this diagnosis, do they know what causes

it? Do they have any ideas? I don't know, they've done loads and loads of research. I know now the doctors and everything have a lot more understanding of it. So they think it could be either down to a trauma response. A what response? A trauma response. So something bad happened in the past. Okay. And I obviously didn't function with it properly and I didn't process it properly. My brain just gone no. But also like if I've had like say if I've had the COVID vaccine once, never having

it again because after that about two, three days after I was straight back in the wheelchair. Also things like if I've had a virus, if I've had a bug, if there's just like genetic stressful horrible situations going on, people, terrible men, that's one thing as well. If somebody's really really horrible or really nasty then my body's just like no not having any of this. So I'm kind of realizing what things kind of trigger it. So at the moment I just try my hardest to stay as calm as possible, as healthy as possible, and just avoid headable people as well. It's crazy because... Sorry, I'm just trying to say...

This is you doing an overhead squat. So one day you could be doing this and the next morning you get up. And can you even feel your legs when you can't use them? No so like just now my arm I can sit and I can pinch it and you can't feel it at all and I can move it so as long as I can see where it's going it's okay to grab onto a bar and my legs and there's parts of them at the moment I can't feel when they're gone they're completely gone you can't feel anything at all I haven't been able to feel my feet for about three years. Yeah, two, three years now. So that's interesting. I walk into

quite a lot of things all the time. Just from going down rabbit holes and doing research on your own, is there anything that you've come across and been like, okay, I think it could be this? Like I got some bad meat or I was exposed to something. I mean, is there anything that you've come up with? No. And I'm guessing you've dug around. Yeah, I've done loads and loads of research, especially when I was younger, just trying to figure out why I'm like this. And now I'm at this stage, I'm like, do you know what? There's

actually no point in me looking into it further. I'm like, this is just me. There's nothing else I can do apart from just get off and get on with it and try and make our lives as nice as we possibly can. Of course the people in the chat want to diagnose you. And I don't want to bombard you with this, but someone said something about parasites. Have you ever looked into that?

Yeah, they looked into all of that kind of stuff. And you took stuff to try to clean that, like non-harmful stuff, like an ivermectin or something like that before? I'm not 100% sure. I've been filtered through with so much stuff throughout, because so now I basically refuse to take any medicinal things. But previously, they would be bangly full of stuff left, right, and center just to see if things would help.

But no, we tested for loads of things like Lyme's disease and loads of different parasites sort of things. Yeah, they tested me far too much. So now like if things do happen, I remember when it happened both in my legs. So beforehand, it was always left-sided. So I'd had it a few times, gone into hospital a few times and then I was like, do you know what, there's no point in me going into hospital whatsoever. So if it would happen, I'd just get on with it. Like it'd be fine, it'll pass, I'll do it myself. But then when I woke up and both my legs had gone at the same time, I was like, oh, this is not great

because it never happened to my right side perform. So they put me into hospital and that was a whole month of just continuous tests, obviously like lumbar punctures, loads of different things. And with the lumbar puncture, they ended up, I don't know what happened, but it ended up bleeding into my brain. So that I was so, so ill for so long. And then eventually when I was well enough, they put me out of hospital.

And I'm like, I'm never going back in. I really don't want to go back in unless I'm like actually dying and something's really, really bad. Then I'm not getting poked and prodded because it's not fair and it makes your health a lot worse. That went over my head. How did the bleeding happen in your brain? I'm not 100% sure what happened. They did a lumbar puncture. So a lumbar puncture is just basically where they put a needle into your spine and they extract some of the fluid.

Yeah. And I don't know what had happened, but it ended up leaking and some of the fluid. And yeah, and I don't know what had happened, but it ended up leaking and all of the fluid had gone into my brain and it was just awful, I was so sick. I couldn't move my head off the pillow, I just had to stay flat and they were like putting caffeine into me all the time to see if that would clear it.

Nah, it wouldn't. So then they had to go back and do a second lumbar puncture to, I don't know, basically infuse it to make it bleed again so that it would clot and stop the bleeding. And luckily that worked, but it was horrible. That's what we want. Rachel, tell me the diagnosis one more time.

Functional neurological disorder. Functional neurological disorder. I want to put it in the title in case there's anyone else who's been diagnosed with that that who can find it and they can just hear your story. Is there any have you met anyone else who's ever been diagnosed with this? Yeah, actually, and the BBC when we found out that I was going to the games, the BBC ended up doing an article they put together like a video piece.

So loads of people got in contact with myself. And there's quite a few people within Inverness that have got functional neurological disorder. There's also one of the coaches at my gym, his partner Alana, I find that she's actually got it too. So I think there's quite a lot of people within the UK that seem to have it. A lot of people don't speak about it, they keep it under wraps. But yeah, hopefully by actually being open and speaking a bit more about it, it'll help other people and let them know that exercise is pretty important.

Oh gosh. Is this the filming when they were there? Yeah, yeah, they were with me for about a day and a half, which was interesting. It was great fun. We went back to my house and they were filming on my kids and stuff where I don't know, getting stuff done. And my kids obviously, my kids, they're a bit hyper. They're really, really good fun. It was a really warm summer's day. So it was

like 15 degrees. And we were like, yeah, outside to the water pistols. And then of course, my son, he was just having great fun with the cameraman and so can the camera, so the cameraman had to go and I'm like, my gosh, I don't know. So I'll never forget it, ever. And something you talk about on your Instagram is that you were very private about it and then at some point it clicked for you and you decided you didn't need to be private about it anymore. That sounds about right, right? You're a 19 year old girl at 19, we're all self-conscious, we're all trying to present ourselves to the world to look our best and be

our best and then this happens to you. Can you tell me about that journey until where you finally, I guess maybe there was some sort of acceptance? Oh that's quite hard one and there's lots of stuff that I probably won't say on here. So from when I was 19, obviously, you're quite young, and you want to make an impression and all the rest of it, and just being a bit naive and a bit vain. So I never wanted people to know like ins and outs of what happened. So if things were going wrong, I'd pretty much go into hiding. I'd go either back to my parents or to one of my really good friends' house. And I would just wait out. I'd be in the gym.

I'd be constantly training. And just, yeah, I think things got to a certain point. I must have been about 21, 22. And I'd been better for about a year. Not much had been happening. I was working in the oil and gas industry and thought, you know what, enough's enough. I don't want to be doing this anymore.

I need to actually go and live my life because I don't know when things are gonna go, like go tits up basically. So I ended up going off to Switzerland and became a ski guide out there. And that was cool, so much fun. My intention was to go out, be single for like six months and just have the best time.

And I did that, but things also happened whilst I was out there and I remember just being like I can't let all of these people who've got like such a high expectation of me to see like what actually goes on behind the scenes so I'd end up like going away off into myself and it probably took until about three years ago. I'd separated from the kids' dads and yeah about three years ago I was in the hospital and I kind of looked at my life and the way that things were and I thought I'm just not happy I don't want my kids to see their mom being like her happiest version of herself so I took the decision I was like looking really sorry but things need to step

away and at that point I was paralyzed completely from the waist down and I was like something needs to change here so I started speaking to a few other people with FND and I was like nobody actually speaks about what's going on. If things are happening, we just lock ourselves away, pretend everything's normal. I'm like, that's not healthy. That's not a good way to deal with them. So I started speaking to more and more people.

And then eventually, by getting involved with the gym, folk were like, you should actually video yourself when, maybe not so much like when things are going wrong, because I'm really not very comfortable with that. But when you're like training and when you're trying to get yourself better, just so you can actually show people, look, this is what happens,

but this is some of the things that we do to try and make it a little bit better. And this is kind of the outcome. Yeah, don't know, people kind of caught on from there. Yeah, things like that. Because I remember the BBC, they were like, why don't you have any footage of you from like when you're in hospital or when you've done this?

It's like, because I don't feel comfortable with that. I don't really want people seeing me at my absolute worst. It's one of these things that happen and I'm okay to speak about it now, but still it's not nice. And I kind of watching these videos and stuff like that. I felt that it's not nice. So it's interesting, you went from,

you went into a giving mode, into a service mode. You realized that like, hey, I need to go from, I've been worried about myself for all these years, let me flip the script on it and give. And has that felt better? Do you think that that was the right choice to be like, okay, this is obviously, seems like it's a little more selfless.

Okay, there's other people out there who are going through this, I'm gonna show them this is how I'm handling it. And so there's a bit of like, you're giving. Yeah, I think from like day one when it first happened, they put me into hospital and I was in a stroke ward. So there was people that were like dying left, right and center and I was sat there and obviously half of me

wasn't working but I was like, I don't feel ill. I just can't move half my body. I feel completely fine within myself. And I'm like, this is absolutely ridiculous. I was so annoyed. I'm like, this is ridiculous. I'm in the hospital. They should put me home, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And then since then, I've always had that in the back of my head. I'm like, there's always somebody worse off. I'll always, always, always get better. Well, hopefully, always get better. And then through speaking to other people, you realize that there's so many other people that just need somebody to speak to. Because quite a lot of folk, they

don't realize the impact exercise has, the impact good good food has, impact just properly taking care of yourself has got such a huge huge benefit on conditions like this because you can go off and you can eat an absolutely terrible diet. I know for a fact if I eat rubbish food I will feel it for a good few days after whereas if I eat pretty much clean food like good meat, good vegetables, loads of nuts, I'm quite boring with the way I eat, but I know that it keeps me okay for a few days, my pain's a lot less, the spasms still happen and stuff like that, but I'm nowhere near as much pain as what I would be without the food. So I know it's really important to be able to share all of that information with other

people I think, because I think, especially being a mom, if you can help one other person, and I want my kids to grow up to know that as well hopefully they'll go out and be able to help other people as well because there's always always always somebody that's worse off than yourself. And tell me about how CrossFit entered the picture. Oh okay so I had been in the wheelchair for about six months and I'd managed to get myself up and to stage where I could walk. A really quick, Rachel, how old were you and was that the longest stint you had ever done in a wheelchair?

No, the longest stint was about a year and a half. That was when I was 19. So this was three years ago so I would have been 31. 31? Yeah, or a little bit now. But yeah, I was 31 and I'd been in the wheelchair for six months and I was like, you know what, I need to just get involved with people because I was kind of at my mom's apartment, get myself better from there.

And we had this little bike that I would sit on and it was like a motorized bike and it would just keep my legs going. And I was like, right, I'll get into a gym and try. I think the worst thing about being in the wheelchair was the muscle waste which is associated with it. So when you do try and stand up, all your muscles waste away completely. So I walked into this gym in Inverness and I was like- You walked in, walked in.

I walked in. So this is by the stage I was able to walk. And so after the six months in the wheelchair. So I walked in and I was chat chat chat away. I'm like, this is what happens to me. And then they're like, okay, let's come sign the forms to get you signed up. We're just up these stairs here. And I kind of looked and I was chat chat chat away, I'm like, this is what happens to me. And then they're like, OK, let's come sign the forms to get you signed up. We're just up these stairs here.

And I kind of looked and I'm like, I can't walk upstairs. I couldn't lift my feet high enough to walk upstairs. It ended up like pretty much doing the ring every single time. I was pushing myself up the stairs, got up, signed the forms and I stuck with that gym for almost a year. And they were really lovely people. But I kind of got my fitness up to a certain level and somebody had mentioned CrossFit, they're like, oh, it's so good for absolutely everything.

And like all aspects of your body or mind, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, cool, go check that out. I went over and did the trial and just totally fell in love. I was absolutely dying. I remember just lying on the floor after just my first workout. And like what's happened to me? But it was so much fun. And then I just got a bit addicted to it really yeah and just

carried on from there thought sat the other gym signed up with the CrossFit and that's really that. Hey when you're six months in the wheelchair how do you know when you wake up one morning oh this is the morning I can actually get out of it do you try every single day? Yeah, as a constant, every single day I would get myself up. I was quite strict with my routine, so I'd always make sure I'd get up for a certain time, make sure I made my bed, because I think that's super important if you make your bed, that's when the day is gonna go okay. I'd put myself onto the electric spinner thing and I would just strap my feet in with

the hope that by cycling the moments then the nerves are going to wake up and get back to normal. So that was like six months of pretty much doing that, just doing loads of physio exercises, mimicking movements with my legs to try and get them to wake up. But you never really know when it's going to come back. I remember with my legs you could feel little parts of it started to be able to feel them and And it would come back like slowly and then the next day it could be a little bit better We'd go back to square one

So it was quite a slow process for that But some other times off my legs have gone they literally will I'll get really tired for a few days before My legs will go and then I'll just be like, oh, I can feel my legs now. That's then back to normal. And it's just like somebody's felt the switch. So completely, it's really varied. It's a trip because we'll use Kevin as an example. And I don't know this for a fact, but I'm assuming that when your legs stop working,

there's days or hours or weeks where you're sitting in a chair, especially if you had use of your legs and you're like, move, move, and you're trying to connect to them, right? And you're trying to go there. And you just can't. And I guess the only way people who are ambulatory

could sort of mimic that or see what that would be like is like, you know, when you go to bed at night, you can or anytime if you sit still, you can take your awareness to your heart. So most people probably go their whole life and never take their awareness to their heart. But if you spend a few minutes, you can take your awareness to your heart and you can be in your heart and you can actually feel the beating, right? And you can hear it. But what you're saying is, is you'll wake up one morning and you can't take your awareness

to your legs. Yeah. And you just can't communicate with them. I remember in college, you know, doing mushrooms or acid and you're six hours into the trip and you're like, someone has to tell you, don't worry, it's going to be over. You know, you're like someone has to tell you don't worry it's gonna be over You know, you're like fuck this is a lot. This is exhausting This is a lot. But so is it like that too during those, you know month four and you still can't feel your legs And you're like man. This is like a bad acid trip. This is like it like what's going on here?

Yeah, well, I've never taken acid I'm very sorry But you can kind of relate to that right? It's just like the torment, you're just like, hey, this is a lot. This is heavy. Yeah. Because you sit there and you're like, just move. Like, just move, just wake up. And I remember being in the hospital in the time

where I'd lost both my legs. And I'd just got a new set of Tudin skis the night before. And I was sat there. And all the snow was falling on the hills. And I could see it. And I'm like, I'm trying not to swear here. Sorry, I'm Scottish. I'm trying my absolute best. No, that's's okay swearing is fine on you. Okay thank you

and for fuck's sake like I was absolutely lazy you know like just move like that's all we need to do is just move I can get out of this hospital I can see my kids and it's just the most frustrating thing because it's as if you know when you get your face numbed by the dentist it's like that and you're just like come on like just do something because I know normally they can work and you're just saying it's really really difficult not to get yourself into a bad headspace because especially after a couple of weeks if it hasn't passed you're just like this is ridiculous and then you get a lot of bad thoughts especially if they think about putting you back into hospital or if it's going to be like I don't know the worst thing is when it's been

like a good few months because of the muscle wastage then you know it's so much harder to recover from. It's just, yeah, frustrating is the end of it. And especially it seems like things can go really, really well like training and all the rest of it. And then you just get wham and your body just decides to be above a dick and shut down and it's not cruel. What's, Rachel, what's the shortest it's ever been? Have you ever lost them for a day and then they come back the next day? So I think one of the shortest episodes I've had is probably for like two, three minutes. And it was not nice. I've been on the phone to my mom and I was like chat, chat, chat, all the rest.

I hung up the phone and I was lying in my bed. And it was as if, I don't know, my whole body had shut down. So I couldn't speak. I couldn't move anything both my arms have gone my legs have gone so it was as if I was like dead I was trapped inside my body and just nothing was moving whatsoever and yeah that was horrible so that was about two three minutes that lasted for and I'm so glad it was only for that two three minutes because it was yeah really not nice. Hey have they Hey, can they do any scans where they see, I'm just making this shit up. I don't even know what I'm saying.

Where they can do any scans where they can see the communication from your brain to your body, like some sort of electrical scanner, or where they can be like, yeah, there's no, is there anything objective where they can see, yeah, there's no communication from your brain to your legs? Is there any like diagnostic test? Yes, I think they've ran some of them tests before. It must have been about two years

ago, maybe three years ago now. And like previously, when this first happened, they would just do like a simple MRI and be like, can't really see anything that's like there. I know I've got a lesion in my brain, but I don't think that's anything significant. But now they've managed to run tests and do all of that sort of stuff as well. And they can, can they see it? Can they be like, yeah, we can see that there's a lack of communication

or is it just like they can see it? Yeah, and they could do like different nerve conduction tests and things like that. Yeah. Nerve conduction, okay, maybe that's the word I was looking for. That sounds good. It's a cool word, isn't it? Yeah.

OK, so you go into this gym, and when you go into this gym, this CrossFit gym, can they tell right away? Or were you perfectly OK at the time? No, I was OK at the time. I did obviously explain to them. I was like, look, some days I'm pretty much fine. Other days I'll go in and I'm like, guys, I can't feel my hands just now. I've told them obviously about my feet. So things like box jumps and double unders as well, they

terrified the life out of me because I can't feel my feet. So I'm like, I've got no idea where I'm jumping to. I've got no idea like what's going on. But the coaches and everything's all pretty good. I don't want to be one of them people's like, right, today this is what's the matter with me and this is happening and this is happening. So Donnie will just kind of look at me and be like, is everything okay? I'm like, I'm just Rachel today. So he'll just be like, okay, that's fine.

And then we just work everything out and just have a quiet word at the side. And you go in there and what are some of the first things you noticed? Do you notice your body going through some composition changes and adaptation really quickly as you put it under this dress? Yeah, I think the first thing that I really noticed was like that you can get yourself into an absolute pain hole and be absolutely fine at the other end of it and it was just probably one of the best feelings.

I know it's quite a weird thing to say but like I'm like, this is so cool, my body can cope with this. And then things started happening, so like muscles started building and my body shape changed completely. So I'm an exta, I used to do ballet dancing when I was younger, a lot younger. So I've always been like super, super skinny, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Probably not very healthy, whereas now I think I'm a lot healthier I look like I'm not stick anymore, which is great. So I quite like it for that sense of things as well in 2022 was that the first year you went into the CrossFit gym? Yes, it was And so two years later here you are and you're going to San Antonio to compete. Yeah, it's mad Absolutely mad and we weren't expecting to qualify Whatsoever we thought we'll sign up for the little games

Well, yeah, just go hope for the best see what happens with the workout And I remember in the open and 24 point three. I'd lost the use of my legs on the Monday They came back late at night on the weddings day. I did the workout on the Friday. I came into the gym, it was on the Thursday, and I just practiced standing up, sitting down, standing up, sitting down, and just gentle movements trying to like re-spark everything back up. And then we did the workout, we did it scale because I was like, we're just going to try our best and see what happens. And I remember standing there and I had to use a box to get up onto the bar to

do my pull ups and I had to lift each leg up to like put them onto the box to be able to hold on to be able to do it. And I was just like so absolutely buzzing that I managed to get the work. I'm like, you know what, I'm going to try to do it scale. So I set up my, I've got a pull up bar. It's too short for me though. And set that up, put outputs in my garage at home, and I was like, okay, just do that X version

and see how we get on. I did it, it was disgusting, it was terrible. At that point, couldn't do pull-ups, I don't know if you've seen, there's a video of me attempting to do a pull-up, and I'm literally just climbing up the bar. It's quite embarrassing, but I'm so proud of it though, which I know a lot of people will be like,

oh, that's ridiculous, why is she happy with that? But at that point, I'd never managed to get the chess bar. So I just worked and worked and worked. And yeah, that was quite cool. So that was the open. It was just... And yeah, that's the one. So even when you go compete on the 19th? Yeah. When you wake up that morning, you

don't know who's going to show up. No, exactly. So I've just been saying to myself, everybody else can go up and do whatever they do. I don't actually worry whatsoever about the other athletes in my division. I know physically some of them are a lot stronger than me, because like I said, we weren't expecting to to qualify whatsoever but we've worked our ass off to

kind of get to this stage now. So I'm just going to go out there and just do my best by me for that day because that's all I can do. I can only do as my body allows me and if it allows me to do really well then that's absolutely amazing. If it doesn't allow me to do quite as well as long as I know like within myself that I've done my absolute hardest and tried my absolute best for how I am, I'm gonna be so happy with that. So happy. And is that acceptance easy or is it you constantly have to work on it? No it's not easy. And whatsoever I think I take, I normally set aside like 20 minutes every week just to catastrophize. It's like

my catastrophizing time. And I've got all these horrible thoughts that go through my head. And I'm like, this might happen, this might happen, this might happen. And then I'm like at the end of all of these sessions, I'm like, Rachel, calm down because all you can do is as your body alive, look at where it was three years ago compared to now, or look at where it was even a couple of months ago compared to now. It's like they changed strength wise, it changed like within my mentality, the change within so much stuff within the space of just a couple months has been amazing. So even my coaches are like, right Rachel this year, just go out, have fun, just experience it, do as best as you can for this year for that day and I'm like yeah that's exactly

what we're going to do. And then they're like, then next year, we're just going to go for it. And we've got the full year planned. And I'm so excited to get stuck back into training. It's going to be so strange, though, finishing this and having to ramp everything down and not train as much, not train as hard. I don't know how my, that's what I'm quite worried about. I think the games themselves will be fine.

But like the come down after it, I'm bit like how is my body gonna cope with this? I've got a strong feeling that I'm probably gonna end up back with something going wrong But I'm just like if it happens it happens. That's You said in 2021 You had the six month stint in the wheelchair then you went into this gym that was upstairs You had the six-month stint in the wheelchair then you went into this gym that was upstairs Then you transferred to a CrossFit gym. Have you had any other is that the longest stint you've had? With some sort of paralysis in the last two or three years. That was the longest thing. Yeah I think this most recent like long well when the I would class as long would have been about five six weeks

That was last year and then this year I think I've been in the wheelchair for like two or three times it's only been a couple of days here and there. I think mostly this year what's been happening with me is I'm losing my vision quite a lot in my left eye. So like I was in the gym the other day and Dan was looking there like are you okay? I'm like yeah I can't see out my eye though. It's yeah just feeling a bit strange it's completely black over this side. And it's not great. But I had two stresses to do. So it's like, right, okay, just close my eyes and get on the bar. Just as long as my eyes are closed, my balance is kind of okay. So I was like, just

carry on working out and it'll be absolutely fine. So things like my vision going, I'm like, just the sensory sort of stuff as well. So like my fingers, I can't really feel them. My feet obviously can't feel them. it feels like there's constantly ants like electric ants running up and down my body as well and so things like that just yeah affecting me quite a lot it's the things that you can't see right yeah um is that the is this the longest since you've been 19 years old is this the long is this the best you've been you think this is the longest run you've been 19 years old? Is this the best you've been, you think? This is the longest run you've had?

The happiest run since you started CrossFit? The longest run since what, sorry? Since, sorry, when you were 19, which would be 14 years ago, which would be 2009 or 2010. Is this the longest run you've had from 2022 to 2024 since you started CrossFit? Is this the best run you've ever had since you were diagnosed? The best run of like, well... Meaning with the least flare ups, I guess.

Kind of. So flare ups is in like paralysis, yes. With other stuff, no. So like my vision goes a lot, my speech goes a lot. Oh, your speech too? Yeah. So quite often I'll sound like I'm drunk and I've sounded like I've been drinking and very rarely if I do drink you'll probably know about it. Yeah, I don't drink an awful lot. Yeah, so my speech goes quite a bit and just little things like little parts of me, like the spasms and the seizures and stuff like that. That's what gets me most at night times, especially. So I've had quite a hard days training and then I'll go home and I'm okay

until I like go through all my relaxation stuff. And then it's as if my body, something just takes over and it goes into like massive jerks and spasms and it's really, really painful. So that's most nights. But CrossFit has definitely helped with all the other aspects of keeping like the paralysis at bay and actually making sure that I can keep getting up and keep moving as well. So I genuinely think it's made a difference to like shortening the length of the paralysis. But obviously there's a lot of other stuff that goes on behind the scenes with me as well It's such a trip that yours is so

Unknown right as opposed to like if you were missing a hand or if you you know, you lost an eye yours is it's like The mysteriousness of it and the the you the coming and going of it, I just, it's hard for me to even get my head wrapped around. Right? It's like to other people, it doesn't even seem real. But to you, it's like, yeah, not only does it seem real, it is real. Yeah. That's the 100% it. We were sitting for lunch yesterday with Henry

and he's obviously got part of his arm missing. And they're like, it's so like the Sunday guy in those category, everybody's like, so what's the matter with you? What's going on with you? And Henry's like, well, I don't really have that issue because this is what's going on with me. I've just got this, they can like clearly see it, but with us, well, you can't really see what's going on unless like obviously I'm in a wheelchair, you can see that. Yeah, that's the only time you can actually see things that went on. When I was in seventh grade, I had some weird ankle pain. Every time I started, I would start to run,

my ankle would give out. And it was bad, and it always hurt. And so I told my mom, I said, hey, I need to go to the doctor. I need to have this looked at. So I go to the doctor, and they can't find anything. And it had been going on for about two years. Now in hindsight I'm guessing it was just growing pains or something, even though I never grew. But I remember the doctor asking me to step out of the room and then I got in the car with my mom

and my mom was pretty angry when she came out and I'm like, hey, what's up? What'd he say to you? And when I was three my parents got a divorce and the doctor's like, Hey, what's up? What'd he say to you? And when I was three, my parents got a divorce. And the doctor's like, Hey, it's your son's basically just making it up for attention because you got a divorce. And it was pretty, uh, uh, pretty, pretty bizarre. I mean, I don't know. I, to this day, I think it was pretty bizarre, right? So, has anyone ever accused you just of making it up? Like, has anyone ever told you, hey, it's just psychological or it's not true? Or has anyone ever told you it's not like you're just making it up? It's psychosomatic? Or like, you'll hear people say that about back pain. Hey, it's all in your head. Yeah. No, not really. Because I think those that normally see me kind of in and out on

a day-to-day basis, I keep like my circles quite close. But I mean even doctors, like did they ever try to tell you that? Yeah, so not so much that, oh you're making it up, but one of them, they ended up putting you to like a neuropsychiatrist, and they were like, yeah, so you've got like underlying trauma that you need to deal with, blah, blah were like, yeah, so you've got like underlying trauma that you need to deal with blah, blah, blah, blah. This might be one of the things that's tripping the like nervous system. Right. Did that. So like, I'm going to go and obviously have a chat with these people and see what

they've got to say. Because I'm like, at this point, anything, I'll pretty much try anything. Right. For medication. I don't really like medication because it makes you feel funny. And I did and I went and had a chat and it did under, like it under covered quite a lot of things that I'd never really spoken about or I'd never really thought about and things that happened. And they're like, when you've gone through these situations when things have been like really, really stressful, has it ever triggered anything? I was like, I don't know if it's a direct response, but it could have done like it could

have done but at the same time also viruses do it like right sick like if I've got sore throat if I'm actually a sickness bug that I'll obviously have an effect on it as well So they have told me that it could be a psychological side of things, but it's through a trauma response If that makes any sense, yeah But you think that they're but you're certain that it's something physiological too or like like chemical or physiological You're not like hey, it's not like I have this memory from my childhood and everything fucking true. Yeah You now now so you so you're in the gym and even up until like just you're still setting PRS now Like you're not like when and even up until like just you're still setting PRs now like you're not like

when we think of CrossFit Games athletes we think of them showing up to the Games in their peak performance and from looking at your Instagram it's not like that for you like even in these last six months you're making huge gains right? Yeah yeah so like I said like we weren't expecting to make it through to the actual Games whatsoever and I think there's quite a few of us in my category that are in the same boat we're like oh gosh we weren't expecting it but at least we now expect him to make it through to the actual games whatsoever. And I think there's quite a few of us in my category that are in the same boat. We're like, oh gosh, we weren't expecting it. But at least we now know what we're capable of

and how things have moved in the past couple of months. It's so exciting to actually be able to see that. We're like, look, this can happen in just a few months. Imagine what can happen. Like this time next year is going to be totally different. So yeah, we're obviously not at our absolute peak just now and I'm kind of at peace with that because I know the situation that I'm in, but I'm really excited to see what the future is about to hold and to see how my body reacts to everything

and to see what we can actually do that's going to be quite cool. What do you squat? Can you squat 100 pounds? 100 pounds? What's that in kilos? You can do a little less. I think it's like, let's say it's like 40 kilos. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I can squat I think about 82 at the moment.

Okay, so like 200 pounds. Yeah. And so you'll go into the rack, unsquat 80 kilos, put it on your back and you'll squat it. Yeah, if my legs are working, yeah. But if they're not working very well, then obviously I would take the weight right, right down, maybe even not use a barbell and just mimic the movement.

Right, just do air squats. Yeah, but it's taken a lot, probably only the past couple of months, as the weights and everything have just gone right up, it's been amazing to actually see the change in everything Previously I wouldn't have been able to do that. No way, but now we've done a lot of work and a lot of work on the strength side of things Yeah, what a trip that you could go from not walking

To squatting 200 pounds 200 pounds sounds so much cooler than like 80 kilos. Yeah, okay. Jeffrey Birchfield, 176 pounds. That's nuts, man. That is nuts. And how old were you when you got your very first pull up, Rachel? 34. 34. Yeah.

So this year, this year's your first year you ever got a pull up. Yeah. And now you have a chest to bar pull up. Yeah, very much so. So yeah, everything's kind of, I just think it's absolutely crazy how we've gone from And now you have a chest to bar pull up. Yeah, very much so. So yeah, everything's kind of, I just think it's absolutely crazy how we've gone from not very great to getting quite good. And then next year, hopefully it's going to be like up here.

It's going to be pretty cool. Is a bar muscle up in your future? Oh yeah, definitely. I can see that happening. I don't know if it's here right yet. Is a bar muscle up in your future? Oh yeah, definitely. I can see that happening. I don't know if it's here right yet. I think adrenaline conditions, things like that, then yeah, I think I'll be able to do it.

It's just the case with me, quite a lot of the stuff is like the cognitive function. So I've been able to like dial in the movement. Once I've got the movement pattern, then it's okay. So it's just a case of getting that kind of clicked and locked in and then we'll open that up and it'll be fine. So concentrating the muscle recruitment pattern in the right order to do certain things. Yeah, yeah. So I think if I concentrate on it too much, it'll probably send me into overdrive.

But if I have it already locked in, then hopefully it'll just go and I'll be fine. And the snatch and the clean and jerk, those are, um, movements you've learned. Yeah. Wow. Fascinating. And you, when I want to go back to when you said you took the COVID vaccine, do you know which brand you took? No, not a clue. And what, did you have any idea that if you took it, it might cause you a flare up?

I wasn't sure, but it was like, in the middle of the pandemic, I was like, look, I don't know, you're kind of, I'm not gonna say brainwashed, but you have- Yeah, brainwashed is fair, brainwashed is fair. Yeah, you have all of this information coming out your left, right, and center, and you're just like, I don't really know

what to do in this situation, what's the right thing, so I'm like, oh, I'll take it, and then hopefully it's like some form of protection because we don't know how bad things actually are gonna be and then a few days after that was me into the wheelchair so I'm like I don't know if it's a direct response but it was too close for me to call so I'm like I'm not doing that again, definitely not. And how long were you in the wheelchair after that? That was for about a week and a half, two weeks. Yeah. It wasn't like a huge

stem but I don't like being back like that. I like to be helping about doing things and at that point my kids were pretty small as well so I think it was a lot more difficult in the wheelchair when the kids were little little. Do you take anything like do you take like vitamin C or do you take magnesium or is there anything that you take that you like kind of swear by or that you think is like... CBD oil. I have CBD oil and CBD gummies as well. I think they help massively and especially from like quite bad spasms and stuff. I try not to take any like strong pharmaceuticals but say for instance like my back's completely locked up sometimes my shoulder will get stuck and it's up like this.

And if it is like that, I'll end up taking Diazepam, but I really don't like taking it because it just makes you feel horrible. What does that do? Did you say lorazepam or di-ra-zepam? Diazepam. Diazepam. Yeah, so that's like a muscle relaxant.

And that's like only if like shit hits the fan, if shit's really bad. If it's like, if like shit hits the fan if shit's really bad. If it's like if I'm in like so much pain and if it's been stuck for ages and ages I'm like nah. But it takes it my physios always like Rachel just take the medication. I'm like no I don't want to because it makes me I was like I would rather put up a pain and just hope that it passes but then sometimes it does get to a certain point in the year like I've just got to take it. Yeah, when it starts affecting your day-to-day movement and day-to-day, well not movement,

because that's a price at all the time, but day-to-day kind of life. I'm being able to do stuff then, I'm like I need to actually take medication now. I try my hardest not to. How about ice baths or saunas? Do you do any of that? Yeah, I've got an ice bath.

So I go in the ice bath nearly every morning. I hate it though. And like all these people who go in the ice bath and love it, I just think, no, not at all. The ice bath in the morning won't cause you to lock up at all or get seas up or get stiff? You know what it does? Like I go in the ice bath and because things with me are obviously to do with my nerves, it feels like every single nerve in my body has just gone on fire. And it's like so much pain for like four or five minutes when I'm sat in there and you've just got to breathe it through and it'll be fine. And then I get out, get warmed up and all the rest of it and then it's like four or five hours with no pain. And it's, I can't even describe it. And at the time it's absolutely horrendous

but I don't like ice baths. I don't think they're nice things, I think they're like a form of torture it's horrible but for four or five hours after I feel so good and like my pain and everything is so much better so I get it. Oh interesting. It makes a huge difference and I like saunas, I use the saunas all the time just because I like to feel warm that's why it's quite nice across here just to feel warm it It's good Yeah, I would I would think that the sauna would be just absolutely amazing to get just really really hot and really really loose Yeah, and especially on my back. It's just so nice and they just sit and stretch out in the sauna I'm just chill for as long as I possibly can The back stuff has that always been there or is that new since you've turned 19?

That's new since I've turned 19. The back and the spasms didn't start happening until about two years ago. So that's newish sort of thing with me. So they're not very nice, they're quite painful. Especially flying over here on the Long Ball flight, that was just awful. It was in so much pain, much pain so just pacing up and down the flight pretty much all the time it is what it is. How many people in your division? There's 10 people in the division. So it's stacked it's full? It's full yeah. And do you know any of

them? No but we've all been speaking together online and it's been quite nice we've got like a wee group chat as well, just a question and pretty much so much different things and just chatting as well. But everybody seems like they're quite nice. Got to know quite a few of their stories as well and a bit of their backgrounds too. Yeah, they seem like a good bunch of people.

So is there anyone in your division who has the same diagnosis as you? The functional neurological disorder? Or no, that's the division. The diagnosis is, don't tell me. Oh no, it is functional neurological disorder. That's the diagnosis, right? And the division is standing diagnosed.

That's right, yeah. Okay. And so no, there's nobody in my division with functional neurological disorder, but there's Faith Fordham. She's got function, like FND for short. She's got it as well. She's in one of the neuro categories. So yeah, I don't know. Is the lady, there was a lady on my show named Kim

who was blind. Is she in your division? No, she'll be in the vision division. Oh, they actually have a, there's actually a can't see division. Yeah. Holy shit. God, it must be, I wish I was going. What? That's amazing. You should just jump on a flight and come down here. I think it's going to be so cool to see everybody. And like, there's just so many incredible athletes out there as well, just to watch them. It's going to be amazing. When is your is your, you must have an orientation coming up.

Your orientation, I'm guessing, is on Thursday? Wednesday. And the actual event starts on Friday? No, Thursday morning. And you know the workouts now? Know the workouts, I'm quite excited for them. It's going to be good. And when you say you're excited for them, what makes you excited for them. And when you say you're excited for them,

what makes you excited for them? You saw them and you're like, OK, I can do these? Some of them, I'm not 100% sure that I'm actually going to get that bar in. But the ones that I can do, yeah, I'm quite confident about them. So yeah, it's going to be good fun. And how many workouts are there?

Seven in total. And does it seem like a lot to you or does your is your training prepared you for this? I think my training has prepared me for this. Yeah, we've built up really really nicely and now we're just obviously on a taper and a deload at the moment and But yeah training is kind of gone hand in hand with us and I'm quite happy with everything that we've done as well hand with us and I'm quite happy with everything that we've done as well. Do you know the age the ages of the people in your categories? Do you know who the youngest and who the oldest is? I actually don't have a clue. Okay. Yeah, I haven't looked into that.

So there might be someone who's 19 and there might be someone who's 45. There could be, yeah. And then I feel like mid-range, so that's quite cool. Yeah. Hey, when you first go to this CrossFit gym, are they receptive to the fact that, and are they able to work with you easily, even with your diagnosis? And did you have concerns with that? Well, do you know what?

No, they've actually been really good. Everything that's happened to me, I normally always message my coach, Donnie, like the night before, been like, look, this is what's going on. I don't really want to have to say it at the whiteboard chat in front of everybody, just to make you aware.

So he's like, cool, this is what we're gonna do. And he obviously does his research behind the scenes and goes bang, bang, bang, and just kind of modifies everything as we need it to be. Some days I can be doing pretty much what everybody else is doing, then other days obviously we'll have to tailor and Some days it can be doing pretty much what everybody else is doing, then other days obviously we'll have to tailor and adapt things just depending on the day.

But no, they're really, really good and they're done loads of research into everything as well. So it's good to feel like them in safe hands, which is quite nice. Yeah, because just like it's new for you, it's new for them, right? Yeah, exactly. for them, right? Like they, they, you're a, um, you're a new, I mean, you're still human obviously, but you're a new creature for them with new situation and they have to figure it out. And it's cool. I'm always so impressed with how great all the CrossFit gyms are out there and the affiliates and how they work with all the different people. But I'm also like, yeah, of course they can do it. Of course they can do it.

I don't know. I think it's like Donnie has obviously got myself I chop and change up some things all the time. And then we've got a new athlete that's came in, Nora. She's only got one of her hands as well. She's being amputated as well. So he like him and all of the coach, they've got such a good awareness about different things that go on with different people.

And they've got such a good kind of like mindset to be like, right, you might not be able to do this yet but we can change it and then eventually we're gonna get you to do something that's extremely similar to that and they're really really good to really open the tab to something like that so it's a good box that they're really really nice. When you started the when you started the open this year I think did you say that you did not it wasn't your goal to go to the games and you kind of stumbled upon it? Yeah, I literally just opened, I was like, we're gonna go do workouts and have some fun

and just see where to place because it's not often that you get to be in a situation where you're working against people that have conditions similar to yourself. So I was like, it would be quite cool to see how I stack up against all of these other people. And yeah, I just went from there really. I'm just like, we're just going to go hope for the best and see where we're placed. And we did okay. So I'm quite happy with that. Is that why you did the open, Rachel?

You wanted to see like, like, obviously you're in the class and you can see how you do with your classmates. But is that why you did it originally? You're like, okay, let me see how I, how I fare against these people. Yeah. And, and with, with no, did you have aspirations to go to the games as the open got closer as it came down to the last workout? Did you look at the scoreboard and were you like, oh shit, I might go? Yeah. I looked at it. Oh my gosh, there's actually a chance that I might be able to do this, which I don't know, I was like, how is this actually possible?

I was like, right, we do this, this, this. So like, obviously I'd lost face for my legs on the Monday. Did the workout scale, and then I was like, I know from well, if I do this workout scale, they're gonna drop my score right the way down. So I was like, okay, just go for RX, try it, see what happens,

and then that was enough to get us through to the semifinals. And then did them again from the gym with a lot of help from the guys at my gym and sat there and remember looking at the leaderboard and I was sitting in 11th place on the Saturday before they actually announced the workouts and I'm like oh I haven't made it and I hadn't been for like a night out or done much with my friends for quite a while so there was a festival on in Inverness so I went out had the best night of my life, danced all night and it was so much fun. And then on the Monday my friend phoned me and she was like, oh congratulations, Rachel. Oh gosh, what was I up to at the weekend

now? And she was like, oh no, you've made it through, you're going to the Games. I was like, no way, actually no way. I didn't expect it whatsoever because I often had this almighty night out, I had so much fun. Just because I'm like, I haven't made it through. I know I've tried my best. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I found out I've got through and we just put our heads to the ground pretty much and just focused so much on training, so much on nutrition, so much on mindset. And we're like, right, this is happening.

So we're just going to go and do it and just have a little fun with it as well. What was the movement that you were considering scaling that you decided, well I better not score or else it'll affect my score? The pull-ups. Oh, the pull-ups, right. Yeah, yeah. So I think it was pull-ups and thrusters. And yeah, I know for a while that pull-ups are not really my strongest thing whatsoever.

And I did initially the scaled version of it and managed to get the pull ups and the thrusters I managed to do the RX way so the second week for the thrusters was the starting week for the RX one so I was like whoa if I've managed to do this and I'm just out of my wheelchair and I know for a moment I can handle that with the thrusters I was like all I've got to do even if I get one chest of bar pull up then that's enough for me to get through so that's why you see me like literally climbing the bar for sheer life. I was like, I'm not giving up. Absolutely no way. Was that the actual workout in that video? Yeah, that was the actual workout. And at that point, I think my neighbors, who are about 80 years old, a minister and his wife came passing in their car like, oh, Rachel, what are you up

today? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm just like, show up and let me do this. Oh, so you're in the middle of your workout and your neighbors are trying to talk to you. I know my neighbors kept coming past and talking to me. I'm like, go away. Wow. Crazy. Is that your first chest of our pull-up ever? Yeah.

And in the open, that was the first, oh, that one or the one you, so you had already done a couple. No, in the open was the first ever one. The first ever, wow. It's so mad, like looking back at it I'm just like oh, but I'm actually really glad that I recorded that because it shows the effort, like sheer effort that went into that. Are you alone there or is your coach there? Why are you doing the open at your house? Oh, there, because the gym was closed and I just kind of got it in my head that I've only got a certain amount of time if I actually want to be able to do this.

So I was like, right, take everything out into the driveway and just get it done from there. Yeah, it does look, by the way, it does look like you're going to get a bar muscle up soon. I hope so. It would be so cool. Yeah, it does look, by the way, it does look like you're gonna get a bar muscle up soon. I hope so. It'd be so cool. Yeah, crazy. Oh, so your neighbors think you're crazy. A little bit, yeah. I've got like, one of my neighbors, she's 91,

the other two, they're like 80 something. And then they're always see like me and my kids like running up and down the street doing shuttle runs. They're like big weights behind our backs. And they're all like, oh, Rachel, I heard you last night in your garage, you've been obviously lifting something very heavy and there was lots of sweating coming from there. I was like, oh sorry guys.

Every time you get in your wheelchair, you must get a whole new cohort of people who ask you what happened. All the time. Right? So it's never like, hey she's the girl in the wheelchair. It's like, oh, what happened to you? And I think that's part of the reason why before I didn't really want to come out and about or let much people see me the way I was, because you haven't had the same conversation over and over and over again.

And I'm like, I don't want that to define me. Like, obviously, it's something that happens. It's not great. It's not fun. But yeah, I haven't had a conversation over and over again. It's just a nightmare. Because if they see you outside doing this, and then the next day you're wheeling out in your wheelchair,

they're going to assume you got hit by a car or you fell down or something like that. Yeah, they're quite, you know, in fairness to them, they're all lovely and they're actually so good. So if I ever need anything, or like if the kids, I've got 50-50 with their dads, so they've got three for one week with their dad for the next week. So if it's like a week that I don't have my kids there to run out and grab the wheelchair and I'm stuck in my bed, I'll just phone one of them,

be like, look guys, this has happened again. Can you just grab the wheelchair for me? And then I've also got like, who'd you call it? Like a air bike sort of thing, like a really cheap version of an eco bike. You just sit on it, So I sit on that, strap my feet to it and just use my arms to kind of spark the movement again. So they'll bring that into the house for me as well to make sure that I can just keep moving and try and

prevent the muscle wastage. But the neighbors are cool. They must think I'm an absolute idiot sometimes. But, ah well. Rachel, are you still married? No, I was never married. No, so I was with because that for about eight years, I think, and yeah, travel the world and all the rest with them. And that was quite cool. Obviously had the kids who are so grateful for because they're incredible. And but yeah, we just weren't like for one another.

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And you had the kids obviously after your diagnosis. How was the pregnancy? Do you know what? The pregnancy was actually really good for both of them. I don't know. Hamish was super chilled and he was just such an easy pregnancy because I was like, people have been, I wasn't really a mumsy mum. I was never really wanting to have kids. It's like I always knew I would have them one day, but I wasn't desperate to go and have them right away. So when I found pregnant, I'm like, oh, well, this is fine.

People have children in the jungles and do all the rest of it. So I was like, I'll just have them and that'll be that. And that was my whole mindset towards it. And I remember being in labour with them, full-blown labour. I was like, I'm just going to go walk up a hill. And we put like Harvey at the time was just like, what? Like, why are you going to walk up a hill? And like, just feel like a walk. And I'd be walking, be like, ah, fuck. And then he's like, right, you need to go to the hospital now. And then I had him and that was totally fine. And then with Isla, I thought she was gonna be like,

super child, super easy, just like Amish, but no, she's like, as soon as she was in my stomach, it was like I was having issues with my heart and she was just like a little wildfire from the moment that she was in me and she was obsessed with sugar as well. So I used to eat like tray bakes of sticky toffee pudding and profiteroles just because she was obviously

calling for that. And like now to this day, she's so- You mean when she was in your stomach, you could tell she wanted it? Oh yeah, 100%. So with Hamish, all I could eat was like broccoli, steaks, and that was about it. Anything else would make me really, really sick.

And even to this day, Hamish loves his steak, loves his like seafood, loves really, really good quality food. Whereas Ayla, she absolutely loved anything with sugar. Like she loves sweeties, she loves biscuits, she loves cake. And like when she was in my stomach, that's literally all I could eat was like tray bakes

of sticky toffee pudding. And yeah, the fruit of it was probably not the healthiest, but that's what I could only eat if I'd been sick. But she would stand my heart like absolutely sky high and I had loads of issues with her and we ended up having to have her early but I think that's just one of the things but overall people have a lot worse than what I did with the tendencies and I find myself really unfortunate to actually have my kids

because they're like my best friends in the whole entire world and I know a lot of people I got fortunate so yeah that's that's really cool I've never heard it described like that I am that it's what the baby's calling for. I remember when my wife was pregnant, I remember she could not even be anywhere near onions. Really? And I'm trying to remember, I think it was with our first kid, and I wonder, I don't think he likes onions. But she also, she was a vegan when she got pregnant and within days she was eating all the meat she could eat like her whole and that boy loves me like he wants to eat raw

meat everything like he doesn't care. Yeah, it's meat meat meat. I never I never thought of it like that. I was amazing because like when you look at them you see all the things that happened to them your pregnancy. And then you know, because now you're like, Oh my goodness, that was you just telling me exactly how you were going to be from the moment that you were in my stomach Yeah, yeah, I'll never forget we walked into a place

She was just maybe five or six weeks pregnant maybe a little further and she ordered a hamburger Whoa, I didn't say anything and then she ate the whole thing and then that was it it was on from there She just I mean she just started consuming a steak every single day. It was nice Yeah, and before she couldn't even stand the smell of cooking cooking meat really did she go back to no now she's full no I mean she still there's some meats that bought she doesn't like the smell of bacon okay which is crazy to me me too but um now there's always a ribeye on on the stove like always all day like when I wake up in the morning when I go back

out into the house, there'll be a ribeye in there. And it's getting raw and raw. She can pretty much eat raw meat and so can my son like it's like nothing to them. Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah, what a trip. I never thought of it like that. Like my son, I remember being over in Quebec in Canada and we'd been out for dinner and he sat there and he spotted these people and they had, it was like a steak and then they had lobster on the side with oysters and he was just like, that's what I'm having for dinner.

I'm like, absolutely not. So my parents ended up buying it and he sat there and just took all the oysters off his plate, ate the oysters, managed to like crack open the lobster, ate that all himself stuff and then ate most of their steak and I'm like how can it, he was only about five at this point and I was like you've got such good tasting food whereas I lived like no I just need macarons, I just need macarons, anything for sweeties, anything for sugar, it's just totally different. Rogue is coming to Scotland. It is. Are you gonna go to that? Well I didn't get tickets but I'm gonna be there working for Victory Groups. Oh that's nice. I'm so excited to meet the guys from Victory Groups as well.

I spoke to them quite a lot throughout this whole journey, obviously going towards the games. And then they were like, oh Rachel, where are you going for Rogue? Where are you going? I was like, nah I couldn't quite afford to go at the time, I'd like to go to work. And I was like, yes definitely I couldn't quite afford to go at the time. Like, why don't you have to work? And I was like, yes, definitely. So it would be cool. How close is that to your house, the venue? So Aberdeen's about just over 100 miles away. Okay. Yeah. So I live, if you look at map of Scotland, you know about Loch Ness,

like where the Loch Ness monster is? Let me see. Scotland. Oh, I met somebody in the airport and they're like, oh where are you from? I was like Scotland. They're like, oh where's that? I was like, the United Kingdom. They still didn't know. And they still didn't know. So Scotland's in the north? Yeah, yeah so you can probably see Inverness at the top of the map. What's the name of the town? Aberdeen? Yes, Aberdeen's on the East Coast.

And then in the center at the top is Inverness. Oh, OK, I see it. Yep. Yeah, so there's a big bit of water just underneath Inverness. And that's pretty much what I see. And where is the rogue? Is it in Aberdeen? Is it in Aberdeen?

Yeah. Oh, I wonder. That looks almost like it could be the venue when you just drag your finger over it. I wonder what that is. Or is that someone's house? You're gonna have so much more fun there going with Victory Grips than if you just went as a spectator. I think it's better to go to an event or at least it's a unique experience to go to an event and kind of have like duties there. It'll be fun. You're gonna have so much fun. It's a unique experience to go to an event and kind of have like duties there. It'll be fun. You're going to have so much fun. It'll be so good. And I think there's a few people from our box that are going to be like volunteering

themselves. So that will be good. And I've heard it's almost sold out. I heard there's like just like 200 or 300 tickets left and they're like just nosebleed seats. Yeah, it's going to be a wild event. I've heard the Scottish people are just crazy over Strongmen. So it's going to be, it should be quite the festivity.

Are you coming over for it as well? I am not. Oh no. No, look how far I live too far away. Texas is quite far away from Inverness. Oh my God, it's so far away. Texas is so far away. Yeah.

How long are you staying there? When it's over, do you just fly home? Or are you gonna stick around in the States at all? No, I'm going to fly home on the Tuesday. So I have like Monday to recover and like stretch and try and get my body back in one shape and then fly out on Tuesday back home by Wednesday afternoon. Pick the kids up from school and get a big cuddle.

I can't wait. It's so strange traveling without them though. So like normally I'll go see my parents who live in Canada or will go away often. I've always got the kids with me. So I actually get on a flight without my kids and I'm like, oh, what do I do? Like I've got nobody to speak to. This is just weird, but it was kind of nice. But I miss them.

Why do your parents live in Canada? Oh, my dad's work. Oh, does he come back to Scotland a lot? Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what? We come back to Scotland a lot? Yeah, yeah. Do you know what? We see each other quite a lot. We're quite lucky. Me and the kids tried to go over for three weeks

in the summer every year. And then my parents come back for the other side of the summer holidays with us. And then they'll be back for Christmas. And when I end up in the wheelchair and stuff, my mom never comes back to help me if it's for a prolonged period of time. Yeah, so they're with us quite a lot.

And how old were you when they moved to Canada? Oh gosh, I was like, Hamish was three weeks old. So not ideal timing whatsoever. So that was in 2017 he was born. But you were raised in Scotland, born and raised. Yeah, born and raised in Scotland. Is this your first time to the States? Yeah, I've flown through San Francisco and my way to New Zealand, but I've never actually properly been in the States or been in this sort of heat either.

Yeah. I've been like aircon going in airports. Is it crazy hot there? What is it? Is it like 115 degrees hot? Do you know? Oh, so at the moment it's in its 28 degrees Celsius. So I'm not sure. I'm going to look. San Antonio weather. Oh, when I was in, oh yeah.

So it's getting to 100 every day. When we were in Fort Worth for the games, and I've been to a lot of hot places and it was very unique. I've been to the Gobi Desert in China, I've been to the Sahara in Egypt, I've been to Death Valley in California, I've been to a lot of deserts. Boy, Texas is something, and I've been to Phoenix, Arizona and boy, Texas is its own special. It's its own. Yeah. It's like, it's like really hot.

It actually looks like it's going to be, let me see if you get any, um, let me look at the 10 day weather. I wonder if it's, you're going to get any hundred. Oh no. So it's already starting to cool down. All right. You'll stay at a hundred. You won't be going to, well, I think when we were there in Fort Worth, it

crested over 110 and it was, it crested over 110. And it was it was weird. Yeah. Like breathing was breathing was hard. Yeah, that's what we found when we were running the other day. And so we're doing quite a bit training outside at the moment, obviously trying to keep not too much effort into it, but just trying to acclimatize to the heat. But that's the hardest thing is just trying to acclimatize your breathing to actually be like, this is so hot. And yeah, it's mad. You feel like you're stepping into an oven almost.

So it's gonna be interesting. Well, I really appreciate you coming on. It was great meeting you. Oh, thank you so much for having me. Yeah, you're awesome. If you're wondering how you did, you absolutely killed it. You belong on podcasts. Thank you're wondering how you did, you absolutely killed it. You belong on podcasts. Thank you.

You definitely put my nerves at ease as well, so thank you so much. And thank you. Is Donnie there with you, you said? No, so obviously we weren't expecting to get through to the games, and so Donnie had a family holiday booked to go to Florida. So they went away off across there, so it's my coach Connor that's coming across instead. Oh, okay, so you will have a coach there? So they went away off across there. So it's my coach Connor that's coming across instead. One of them. Oh, okay. So you will have a coach there. Yeah. So they arrived himself and Joe, his partner,

they arrived here tonight about midnight. So obviously they're definitely by then. And then tomorrow it's like athlete check-in and all the registration stuff and getting to know like the buildings and things like that. So yeah, it's exciting. Well, awesome. Good to meet you. I'll be watching you on YouTube.

You sound like your head's in the perfect place, and congratulations. Thank you so much. All right. We'll chat again sometime. You speak in a bit. Okay. Thank you, Rachel. Thanks.

Bye. Bye. Rachel Hives, competing to be the fittest mom. Oh good, I'm glad you waited until she got off the air to say that, good job, Barry. Yeah. Just another hot woman in Texas. I think I showed incredible restraint fawning over her hair.

Man. Man oh man That fucking vaccine man And last night, last night, this isn't going to be for everybody. Probably not going to want to see this last night it's pretty, this is a pretty crazy story. I can't find the original post. Somehow I ended up on this girl's Instagram account. I guess her name is Lexi.

This is her. I guess I won't make any comments about that, but if you go to her story, this is her face three days after, I can't remember the exact story. I can't find the original post that people are posting of her. But this girl went to the hospital for something. I can't remember what. And they told her that they couldn't give her any treatment until she got updated on her vaccines. This is three or four days ago.

And she got updated on her vaccines and one of them was measles, which is just like the Please anyone who's thinking about getting the measles vaccine just do a tiny little bit of research on measles Measles and I want to say that two other vaccines It's the three that come in like in a bundle, I think. And this happened to her three days after she got the injections. And what's, I haven't posted for hours. I'm on five or six different opioids. All they are giving me is extreme pain meds.

They aren't something. My pain just makes me tired. I've been sleeping through my pain because they will not help me and are refusing to let me transfer. Please continue to share and show what they did to me. I want justice if I don't make it through the night. My family deserves justice for me. She's clearly losing her mind too.

I saw a post where she's upset about the quality of her room. Into the room telling me, oh my gosh, you look like you're in so much pain. We're so sorry giving me a new opioid to try and leaving for another four hours she's upset cuz she's not getting treatment more than every oh someone said it's mm mom's measles mom's rubella Mums measles mom's rubella Yeah, it's crazy you're so crazy to go to the hospital and take fucking shots

I don't know who the fuck is still doing that She should have spent less time posting probably booty shots and more time reading I'm begging for eye drops for At least six hours because my eyes burn and they won't let me touch my face But my eyes are itchy. I Can no longer Lower my neck

It looks like something crazy one. It looks like her sure her she looks like all that stuff looks necrotic. I hope it's not And there's a giant lump here And I've been asking for a CT scan since last night and they won't come. Again they're just coming in and telling me oh we understand you're in pain. I've been screaming and yelling, screaming that I need immediate relief to this. And all they care about is putting me on more opioids to make me tired because I think they don't want me reporting this anymore.

Because one of the doctors came in and said that I could be in trouble for recording everything because it's against the nurses wishes, but I never put any of the nurses on camera just their voice Isn't that crazy? She's still dealing with the drama of life While she dies. It's cook. The whole thing is so fucking crazy. The whole thing is so wild. This is a freedom of speech country. If I have to record what is happening to me, I will. Last thing before I go try and arrest again due to all

To pain them and I called the police and they told me I wasn't supposed to call because I'm in another Hospital but then they sent a bunch of police officers that work with The hospital in here and told me that they can't do anything. Thank you. Please keep sharing. Remember parents. Her family's there. Her family's there. Jason Chapman, it's weird I have a boner. Is it weird I have a boner? That meant it's weird I have a boner. Is it weird I have a boner? There were some crazy posts I saw where she was complaining about her room

and her room looked absolutely amazing to me. I don't know what's going on. She's put out posts asking people to call the hospital. Let me see. But basically, supposedly that happened to her like just in three days. I don't know if she cleared out her Instagram except for all the slut pictures. Cattle, maybe I should call them cattle pictures. Cattle call pictures, is that what they're called? What are those pictures called if you're selling dogs and you wanna show people, you know what I mean?

Like if you're selling a dog and you lift up its lip and you're like, look at the great canines on my teeny weenies. Hey dude, keeping it real, no vaccines for babies. Dude. The second you take one of those, your immune system is altered for the rest of your life. For the rest of your life, read these two books. Read Dissolving Illusions. Read The Real Anthony Fauci by RFK. Watch the Sean Ryan podcast that Moth in the iron moth and the iron lung

You will have a Crazy rude awakening Crazy crazy crazy crazy rude awakening, you know Winston We are surrounded by Well, I just saw a post yesterday that said if you're over 35 you have fewer injections than the average six month old. Yeah, catch me outside. How about that? Yeah. Christine Young, her post have nothing to do with the treatment she needs. She's young and dumb and still deserves better.

Fair enough. Of course, I don't know if she deserves better, but it would be nice if she could get some sort of help. She looks like she's gone into some sort of full necrotic... I don't know what it is. It's hard for me to respect anyone. Not, not that I disrespect them, but who has attention or who's drawing attention and isn't doing anything, something valuable with it. I, I'm absolutely disgusted with this dude. and isn't doing anything something valuable with it I

I'm absolutely disgusted with this dude Somehow somehow this fucking ass clown has a This guy his name is Ryan Holliday and this fucking guy has a Instagram account for dads And if you're taking any advice from this guy on anything you should fucking think twice This guy is a world class. This guy, I don't know him personally, but how he presents on the internet, he is a scumbag of the highest order. This is a rotten, rotten human being to his core. The irony that he has tattooed on him stillness is the key should say it all.

And I look at all the tools he hangs out with and they're all just fucking tools. I almost think that the more popular someone is, you should just sort of equate that to just that they're basically fucking losers. I mean as your first litmus test, I mean I think obviously there's exceptions. I think like Rogan's doing incredible work and he's hugely popular. Paper Street Coffee, the first sentence the pediatrician at the hospital asked me was, we should talk about my kid getting vaccinated. This guy is such a scumbag. At the first vaccine clinic I worked at here in small town outside Austin, Texas, the county vaccinated more than 2000 people in one day. The last clinic I volunteered at which closed because no longer put volunteers

to use I checked less than 15 people in for their shots. It was actually a good day. The day before they had done only five. This is not because there was a shortage of people who needed their miraculous mRNA vaccines. We like much of the rural south have barely cracked 40% vaccination rate for adults. How could this be?

Bastrop County is the kind of place where people will pull over and change a tire for you. Where we just banded together to pull each other out of the snow during a free Texas freeze. We're part of a state where flooding and hurricanes bring out the so-called Cajun Navy to rescue neighbors from danger often at grave risk. What could have happened to make people so indifferent to

their own health, let alone to the health of the most vulnerable in our community? This fucking guy goes on and on without stating one fact, one study. He uses his fucking bullshit stoic fucking crap in order to fucking manipulate people but if you read through the lines here this is all his own fear he's a terrified fucking little boy yeah good people take vaccines is what he's saying yeah this is the exact thing that the CrossFit Games athletes were saying my consciousness wouldn't let me compete my good conscience oh you're good conscience, huh?

So the people who did compete had bad conscience it like it says fucking nothing I Know I know Rogan isn't free. I know he's not free It's a great point But he but as he walks up the stairs to freedom He's kind of of dragging some people on. Wolf in sheep's clothing, yeah. This guy is a scumbag. Just look at him and trust your judgment just on how he talks, how he presents himself.

If you see anything authentic about him, just trust your judgment on him. It should be said that this is not a new phenomenon. 2,000 years ago in the depths of the Anton Anton on plague Marcus Aurelius wrote an affected mind is far more dangerous Than pestilence than any plague because of one threatens your life the other destroys your character This fucking idiot is quoting shit. That's for himself He is such a fucking scumbag Listen to this. They can do something about this problem.

They haven't. Why? He's talking about why social media isn't blocking people who are fucking against taking the injection. Who are doing forced mandates on drugs. It just so happens that misinformation like political polarization tends to be very good for business.

It's like, dude, they were fucking censoring people. This is what this guy fucking thinks. By the way, if you go to his account and you look at all the people who post, this guy's a straight camel. This guy's this totalitarian piece of shit as you fucking get. This is from Ryan Holiday.

The way to protect the public is obvious. Who talks like that? Ban them, algorithmically punish their accounts which share their content. Quarantine accounts infected until his temporary fit of insanity passes. Artificially boost information that vulnerable members of society desperately need to hear until they've heard it. Political parties on both sides of the aisle use social media data to target prospective voters and corporations use the

same tools to turn those people into customers. It's like, hey, fuck TARD, they are doing that. All you guys try to tag me today and see what you get. All you guys try to tag me today and see what you get. I'm banned because I don't believe in mandating drugs for kids and I think all human beings are equal. I don't think blacks are less than whites or Asians are better than whites. And so I'm banned for that. This guy is such a scumbag, Ryan Holiday.

Artificial boost information that vulnerable members of society desperately need to hear until they've heard it. What are you talking about? There's never a fact in here. There's never one piece of data or one fact. It's all just fucking PFAA blah blah blah talk. The burpee dude, Sevan, I could not tag you yesterday. Yeah, exactly.

Someone told me that you get a warning if you, Sevan, I could not tag you yesterday. Yeah, exactly. Someone told me that you get a warning if you follow Sevan, yeah. Four out of 10 go harder, I know, I know. I should go harder. I appreciate, I love rankings though. It's good to know I'm only a four. My wife would be proud. Desperately need to hear until they've heard at political parties on but

It's time to demand these platforms to use their own tools to save lives and serve the common good and what is clearly the crisis? of our lifetimes Goddamn Ryan Holliday. You are a scumbag He's a little fucking Hitler, dude He's a little fucking Hitler, dude. He's a little fucking Mussolini. How how the fuck is this guy? How does anyone follow this piece of shit? It is fucking unreal. As I read this yesterday, I was just like, how can I talk about this fucking ass clown

without being just a complete fucking asshole? I don't know if there is a way. Look at this little weasel. Expect you to read like this book one time and then you just absorb it forever even though every day you're becoming a different kind of parent because your kids are a little bit older and you're experiencing something new that you've never experienced before. And that's one of the things I tried to solve with Daily Dad, which is the idea that actually what you need is like a reminder, a thought and intention every day. Just one thing to think about.

How about call yourself the daily cuck? How about call yourself the daily baby killer? It sucks because everyone I see on his Instagram account, I started, I was at Ryan holidays bookstore outside of Austin, which is amazing. Greatch is great. Great bookstore. He has the best bookstore. Yeah. What a life. Yeah, I love him. He's such a good dude. I went to his bookstore and yeah, I hate those guys now. He's like a little finger monkey. Man, what a fucking piece of shit. Yeah, all these people I see that interacts with, I just think they're all tools. Oh, this guy's the big... The thing I like about all your books, man.

Is Charlamagne, is Charlamagne going tranny? Is he transitioning? What's he doing? What's happening to him? Is he transitioning? Just fucking racist and fucking gathering. God and Chris Williamson too. There's this experience you have where you read something either doesn't make sense to it doesn't register.

Some of these people on here, by the way, I know and I've spoken with and it's so funny to see them come out now because when I spoke to them years ago, they knew that the fucking vaccine was bullshit. They know they knew all the woke shit was going on. They knew that the fucking left was pushing this fucking divisive fucking racist agenda and they were afraid to talk about it. And you know why they would tell me they were afraid to talk about it because they didn't want to lose followers or they didn't Want to get banned? It's just fucking coward central god damn And I and I go to I started going to all these people's accounts, uh, yesterday that are kind of in his circle, you know, you know, the group we have, they, they, they intersect with CrossFit.

And I guess this is kind of why I respect, uh, Rogan more than the others. At some point, all of these people turn to just telling other people how to be successful. Like that's their success. That's all they do is tell other people how to be successful. Yeah, he's a he's I don't Unlike this show yeah, just tell you guys how to fucking be cool. I tell you guys what to think I tell you not to fucking touch the Cheerio don't touch the butthole. I'd like you to play the video where he talks about raising kids total hypocrite. He's a I can guarantee you He's a fucking shithole dad. He's a piece of shit and

The reason for those you don't know the reason why this this um, uh this uh, This is such so ironic this fucking moron's tattoo, stillness is the key. Is nowhere in stillness does it tell you to get that tattoo. So you're like, okay, well it's just a paradox. He knows that. But nowhere in stillness do you write retarded shit about the fucking injection. Like, that's a noisy scared brain. You guys all know those people who have the noisy scared brain. They're completely freaking out about fucking the, they'd rather chase the fear and play the victim than have some stillness and be like, hmm, let me see what my mind tells me.

Let me see what my stillness tells me about COVID. There's nowhere in that space where it tells you to get the injection. There's nowhere in your, there's nowhere, there's nowhere inside of you that's healthy. That's like, oh, my baby's just born. Let them inject my baby with drugs. There's nowhere.

That's not, that's not the planet we're living on. There's nowhere. That's not that's not the planet we're living on. There's nowhere. Fucking bat shit crazy man. Anyway, I got pretty wound up last night about And the irony is if anyone should be banned, it should be him spreading information about hurting kids. You know what you'll never be surprised about if it comes out about this guy, right? You know what you'll never be surprised about. Nothing that comes out about this guy would ever surprise you. Look at him. Nothing. Diddy went to fucking jail, huh? Diddy!

They're presenting it like, um... They're presenting his, uh... They're presenting his job. I wonder if I have to go pick up my van from the Toyota dealership. They're presenting Diddy like he went to New York to turn himself in. That's how his lawyers are presenting it. Hey, isn't it fascinating that, explain this to me. Isn't it fascinating that it's the Palestinians and the in their army, what's their army called?

Hamas, Hamas are the ones who are doing all the killing yet people only protest against the Israelis for their killing. Do you know why they only protest against the Israelis? Why, why are they not, why, why, how come have you, have you seen the streets fill up anywhere protesting Hamas asking them to stop the Killing how come all the protests are about the Israelis? How come there's never protest about the how come there's never been a protest in the streets to tell the Taliban to stop killing You guys know why? How come there's never protests in the street telling all the black people to stop killing

each other? How come there's no protests like that? Anyone know why? How come there's not just huge, huge marches on DC or in Chicago or in Detroit asking black people to stop killing each other? How come it's the burning down of Portland? Does anyone know why? Goes against what narrative? Why? Why aren't there, why aren't there, like, so Hamas goes in, kills a thousand Jews, and you would think the streets would fill, right? To protest to Hamas, to appeal to them, please stop killing the Jews.

How come there's no, how come it's never like that? How did, how did six Israelis get fucking shot in the head at point-blank range, right before they were going to be saved, and 500,000 Israelis took the streets Why don't they protest against Egypt and ask Egypt to open the border? How come on 4th of July when 100 black men are fucking shot in Chicago and 25 are killed and 6 black kids are killed that there's not huge protests? Again, why aren't there just white people storming the streets begging black people to stop killing each other? How come there's not black people in the streets storming the streets? Fuck it, Let's say mixed. How come there's not black and white and Asian people storming the streets begging black people to stop killing each other? I don't think only and never is a true

statement. Fine. Fine. Mason, we don't care about facts here, only feelings. Mason, pick a number. Mason, I'll use it. Pick a number, David. I'll use it. 90%? How come 90% of the protests are all... Tell me. What number? You pick the number, I'll use it. 90%? 99%? 51%? 51%. Have you ever seen a protest? I've seen shitloads of protests against racism, against people protesting that the United States is racist against blacks. I've never seen one protest, never one, but I'm open to correction.

I've never seen one protest where it's just shitloads of people begging, demanding that black people stop killing each other. 12 unarmed black men killed, but tens of thousands killed, killing each other. But all the protests are against the cops. Why is that? I'm waiting David Mason I'm waiting

I'm waiting guys I'm waiting. Go ahead. Right. That's what I thought. I can only think of one reason why they don't. I can only think of one reason. reason. I can only think of one reason why people don't protest against Hamas to stop the violence. Yeah that shut you guys up real quick huh Mason and David? Morons. Just fucking just shut you guys the fuck up. Just fucking just shut you guys the fuck up

Oh, it's not never okay cool all right You sound like my wife so pick a number go ahead Scared for being killed for hating Muslims No, because fucking no one that no one respects them enough to fucking protest against them. That's my take No one fucking respects a single fucking Muslim person enough to fucking make a protest You know Armenia's building the largest statue in the world of Jesus Have you guys seen that? Armenia's building it's gonna be bigger than the one that they have in Brazil. And I sent that article to a friend the other day and they responded with a thumbs down.

Now this friend is arguing with me that it's cool that in Minneapolis that they're gonna play the Muslim prayer, prayer, Muslim prayer, a prayer from the Quran over loudspeakers in the city five times a day at six minutes a pop. Oh, that's really cool. They have the right to do that. But a statue of Jesus in Armenia is a thumbs down with no like, with like nothing else, just a thumbs down. I'm like Jesus. Wow. I'm like, Jesus, wow. I don't know. I don't know why it's the other way around. You tell me, I'm fucking asking you.

It's a fucking question. I assume it's because no one has any respect for them. I assume that no one's gonna be like, we're gonna protest against Hamas to stop killing Israel and all they're gonna do is kill you. Like those are the people, like take to the streets of Palestine and be like, imagine those people taking the streets and be like Hamas please stop killing Jews or in their own people. Imagine Hamas doing that, gathering the streets. Do you know why they don't? Probably because they would get killed because Hamas would kill them.

And yet you're protesting in the streets in a place where you can do it against the people who are protecting you. It's fucking insane. We live with fucking morons. No, sorry, not today. Oh, my bad. I thought you were going to be our beacon of light and enlighten us. But next time, just say that. Don't call me democratic.

David would like to switch to some more pop culture, which I don't blame him. Tech that check the Diddy presser. Is there something new? Hi, I'm Ryan Holiday. Make sure you get the injection and whatever you do, practice stillness. Except for when it means to go get the injection. And by the way, I'm Ryan Holiday. I look like a finger monkey. Do you guys know what a finger monkey is? I look like a finger monkey.

And I think that they should do censorship on social media. They should ban those people. Hi, I'm Ryan Holiday. I have advice for you on how to raise boys. But first I'm gonna learn how to talk. God, he's such a bitch. You guys know what a finger monkey is oh Shit, I ended up on Facebook by the way anyone who sends me stuff on Facebook I don't go there cuz I don't I don't know why I just don't go there. I don't know why I don't go there But so I never go there like anytime I click Facebook on my phone it like wants a login or something

I don't I don't really know how to do that This is a finger monkey. Hi, I'm Ryan Holliday. I'm a finger monkey. Get your injection and I believe in censorship because I'm right and you're wrong. I hang out with Tim Ferriss. He's a weasel too. you're wrong. I hang out with Tim Ferriss. He's a weasel too.

I make money off of telling you that your life sucks and you should change it. Are you doing Ryan Holiday or Travis Brault? I should have a Ryan Holiday button. That's the old mayor of Chicago. Oh, that's that's Lori Lightfoot. Oh, I thought that was a finger monkey. I bet. Hi, I'm Ryan Holiday. I had to have special glasses made for me because my eyes are so close. I think there's some study that the closer your eyes together, the lower your IQ is. I thought I saw something like that once. And that's the thing, like I don't care. Like if you want to get it, like I'm not, I'm, that's the thing. I'm not opposed like if you want to get it like I'm not That's the thing I'm not opposed to it I'm not asking for any censorship put all the fucking propaganda you want out there and all the fear tactics you want out there

To scare people to take it let David Weed take it. I don't care But when your solution is is to shut the other side up in the name of good When we just saw a fucking chick with her face melting off? I mean, if that guy wasn't such a fucking coward and a pussy, why wouldn't he say something like, hey, only a thousand people supposedly died from measles in the previous 10 years to the vaccine coming out. And 6,000 people have died in the first five years from the injection coming out. The net loss of 5, sorry, Maximilian Vargas.

I think people are generally too stupid by design to think about a lot of the variables that factors into the issues today. They can only go one layer deep. So I think people are not generally too stupid by design. I think they're smart by design. That's what's so impressive about keeping so many of them stupid. But I appreciate your, the sentiment of what you're saying. And how about just some numbers? How about just some facts? How about just one? How about what like, how about saying, how about just something? The only numbers he used in that whole talk is the percentage of people who are getting it to who are not getting it.

I don't know anything about Linkin Park. I think Greg used to like them. I don't know anything about Lincoln Park. I think Greg used to like them. I don't know anything about them. Someone was asking a question about Lincoln Park. Lebanese hospital overwhelmed as hundreds upon hundreds of Hezbollah terrorists arrived with critical injuries after Israel allegedly hacked their pagers and blew them up remotely in an incredible operation never seen before. I wonder what they'd do. It looks like a family reunion of mine. That's what it sounds like at one of my family reunions. I wonder what they did.

What happened? Does anyone know? It sounds like some some like they tracked their pagers or they actually made their pagers blow up. Oh, here we go. Let me see if this... Wow. Hundreds of members of Hezbollah were seriously wounded on Tuesday when their pagers they

used to communicate exploded. Wow. Oh, shit. Wow. Shit Wow Wow, you guys want to see this video? Wow. I only have a small video, but this is crazy Wow, so they blew up their pagers, holy shit Let me see if um, let me see if I can find the video to play you guys. It says graphic content, but I don't see Hundreds of members of the Iran backed Hezbollah terror organization were wounded on Tuesday when their pagers which apparently had been hacked exploded

simultaneously in Beirut and elsewhere in Lebanon Wow you guys want to see the video exploded simultaneously in Beirut and elsewhere in Lebanon. Wow. You guys want to see the video? Yes? No? Maybe so. Crazy. I wonder if they could do that to our iPhones, blow up our iPhones.

I can't make it big. That's why it's here. View in channel. Let me see if I can view in channel. Make it big for you. Nope. Man. It was not indiscriminate. It was Lebanon wide. It was anything with lithium ion battery, including cell phones. Iran ambassador also taken out.

Wow. It was not indiscriminate. No, I don't think that's the right word indiscriminate. Indiscriminate. Indiscriminate. Indiscriminate. Indiscriminate. Indiscriminate. No, I don't think that's the right word indiscriminate. Indiscriminate.

Indiscriminate done at random or without careful judgment. It was not done at random. Oh, right. It was not. Okay, yeah, but it was Lebanon-wide. It was anything with a lithium battery. Avera, the way you're writing this is that everything after it was indiscriminate sounds like you're saying the opposite. It was anything with a lithium battery, including cell phones, Iran and Bastar ambassador also taken out. Wow. Fear porn, maybe. Jews are the smartest. That's true. The old double negative. Yeah, is that how you're kind of reading it, Mason? I'm a little um...

Iran's ambassador to Lebanon injured by pager explosion. Dubai September 17th, where Iran's ambassador to Lebanon, Amani, was slightly injured on Tuesday by the explosion of electronic pager. Iran's semi-official Fars news agency reported as numerous such devices exploded across Lebanon. Amani was superficially injured and is currently under observation in a hospital where the 1,000 people across Lebanon including Hezbollah fighters and medics were wounded on Tuesday when the pagers they used to communicate exploded security sources told Reuters. All right, so their comms are down. Is that the moral of the story? Like they're not communicating well with each other right now? Crazy.

well with each other right now? crazy what's funny is those let me show you guys the video you guys want to see the video of the pager exploding here it's not it's not very good but oh maybe I can make it bigger. Let me see. Oh yeah, here we go. Ready? Isn't that weird? Why doesn't that and checks on him? Wow. guys goes over and checks on them?

Wow. Yesterday I was, I took the van over to the Toyota dealership. It's two miles from my house. Then I had to walk home. When the entire walk home, I don't see a single other person walking. I see a couple of homeless guys in front of a church getting like free food. And then I was crossing the bridge, one of those bridges, you know, that there's a freeway and

there's a bridge that goes over it so cars can go on either side of the freeway. And I'm walking and I see five nails on the ground. I pick up the five nails, of course I do, right? And I pick them up and I cross the freeway and then there's some bushes and I throw them into the bushes. And I thought to myself, that's probably a greater contribution than fucking anyone else in my town has done today.

That's how little I think of people's contribution. And when I see that, that fucking pager exploded, no one go over to the guy, just four grown men stare at him Like he's a fucking like a like a dog in the street. I think all right. Yep. I'm right Yeah, so easy to be a fucking good person all you southerners are probably good people Um, I feel like it's more... Oh, the entire region has PTSD

Return returning shopping carts is greater than picking up random nails. Oh, you're out of your mind You're out of your fucking mind. Think of all the flat tires I saved Maximilian Vargas now, I'm a piece of shit and I'm from Texas. Alright fine. Alright, thanks guys for hanging out. Good luck Rachel. Hives at the San Antonio Wheelwad CrossFit Games, September 19th through the 22nd. Keeping it real, read those books, listen to those books, get the audiobook, Dissolving Illusions.

Listen to anything by RFK. Don't listen to him about climate change or racism though. He's confused. He's still stuck in guilty racist land Talk to you guys soon. Oh show tonight. Really? Why is there something? Justin you know why your photo triggers me there's a guy who's just a fucking douche on YouTube who just Samuel something or another and Everywhere he fucking posts. He just goes after Greg. He just cannot stop attacking Greg. He's such a scumbag he's like a PhD in something he thinks he's so fucking smart and he's a moron and he's upset because this guy's upset because Greg keeps showing the

Fails of modern medicine and science and he's so frustrated He can't ever say anything to refute what Greg says, but he just attacks. Anyway, your picture looks like his. I don't think there is a show tonight. No. Oh, Susa has a show. Susa has a show.

I assume Susa has a show. Oh, that show is gonna be good today, I think. If you're gonna go to the rogue invitation, you better get your tickets. That sucker's like almost sold out. Oh, Suzy's this afternoon? Okay. All right, hopefully Trump's still alive tomorrow. It's always nice to wake up every morning and Trump's still alive. Look, here's what I'm just saying. I'm not a drinker.

I can honestly say I never had a beer in my life. Okay? Right. It's one of my only good traits. I don't drink. Whenever they're looking for something good, I say, never had a glass of alcohol. I've never had alcohol. I've just, you know, for whatever reason.

Can you imagine if I had what a mess I'd be? Would I be the, I'd be the world's worst, but I never drank. I never drank. I look, here's, here's what. God, I love that dude. All hail the king. Love you guys. Talk to you soon. Bye bye.