The Sevan Podcast - Ranking The MOST POPULAR Male CrossFit Game Champions

Episode Date: September 26, 2024

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Bam, we're live. Caleb Beaver in the bottom square. Probably one of the most prominent people who sits on the pulse of popular culture. He knows all things stored in that giant brain of his. He just sits in a motor home all day and studies popular culture. Also right hand square in the CEO shirt,

Bryson Del Monte, star of the Kill Taylor show that you never see, has a hot girlfriend, great guy to hang out with. Also pushes that programming Sentinel training and also steroids. Above him, Andrew Hiller from HillerFit. Everyone knows who he is. Not everyone. Not yet. And the show, this show is a scientific show, a show of science.

Oh, you know what? It actually is. We are going to go through and tell you who the most popular, we're going to rank the most popular CrossFit Games athletes. Men, the ones with penises. James Fitzgerald 2007, Jason Klieb of 2008, Mamiko Salo 2009, Graham Holmberg 2010, 2011, 12, 13, and 14, Rich Froney 2015, Ben Smith 2016, 17 19 and 20 Matthew Fraser I Thought we were ranking met fix in champions There are none of them yet. Wait, something's not right. Well, who won in 2021? Madera Maderas, oh shit. I don't got my Darr in there my god my list how can you forget?

Justin Maderas Justin M ed Maderas if you if you if you know how to say right Justin Maderas 2021 and to 2023 Jeffrey Adler. God. Yeah, that's going to come up. And 2024 James Sprague. Who's that? Before we start the show, let's go over to the great Alex Guzzan's Instagram account.

There's a mosquito in here. I'm fucked. And let us just admire what one of the greatest most promising CrossFit athletes can do with two 90 pound dumbbells look at this. That's like one set on each hand. Yeah, pretty much. 90 pounds for six on Starlink. Nice and, nice and choppy on the old Starlink. Who's the guy? Who's the boy? Probably the third. Do we have, does anyone know who that boy is? I don't know. Is he tagged?

Bryson, have you talked to him on the show? Yeah, I made the Metfix joke. That's pretty much it so far. Mr. K Hurley. Okay, Mr. K Hurley. Yeah. Oh, okay. Solid 832 followers.

Good job. That's as much as the strength garage or whatever the hell his name is You think this guy can do 90 pound dumbbells for six? No, no, no Maybe well the crazy thing is that Taylor couldn't do that, but Taylor still beat her in the kill Taylor workout with dumbbell bench press so there's a difference between top end strength and endurance. This is a deadlift.

Those are all 10s on there. That's six 10s on each side. That's about 135. Yep. That's a deadlift. Smooth. Dolphur. Wait, I know this guy. I met this guy when I was out there. there and no he can't do the 90s. All right, mr. Curly Never outshining the master. That's what Susan told me the other day. Yeah, he read that in a book. Oh Fucking roadcaster. Oh, yeah, my roadcasters fucked up. How does Brian spin? No, my road caster is messed up.

Cause his is also messed up. Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah. That's awesome. I couldn't get mine to work this just now. That's going to suck. That's going to be a long week. Okay. Uh, and then also I would like you, uh, we have a premiere for you. There is a international competition going on between a Graciano and a few other guys. I don't know what you call this move, but it's basically they're snatching from their knees. Ready? Is there, is there something created for that kneeling, kneeling muscle snatch? Okay. And, and so as one guy did like 200 pounds and now it's been this back and forth between Graciano and a handful of other knuckleheads and we have a Graciano going to break the new record.

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I have no throne or queen Or anyone who understands me But I have no power or power I'm going to do it. 253 pounds. Oh my god. Andrew Hiller. Okay. That's your comment.

Bryson Del Monte. Any thoughts? I saw John Young do 255 like two months ago. So yeah, me too. Actually. It was pretty good for real. Yeah really good on his knees no I thought he's only good at missionary pop culture icon and of all things pop culture Caleb lever I was thinking exactly what Teresa Rochford was thinking in case you didn't need your back

John oh in the house. What's that? I was started yet. No, no BAM. We're live Hey, did spins roadcaster take a shit Yes, just cut out on a mid podcast and he started freaking out They just came out of the new one like yesterday, but they're just throwing them out the door. Yeah, mine stopped working just now too. Hey, well I got back from Walmart like 20 minutes ago and I just bought this mic and headset and I already sound better than John, so.

That's your commitment. That's your commitment to the show. You guys. Booking. Okay. There's sex with his head. All my stuff was free, and Sevan just sent it to me, so. Well, I'll be sending Sevan a Venmo request I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Okay. All my stuff was free. Just just sent it to me. So,

I'll be sending a Venmo request for all this equipment. My wife are you voting for Kamala for sure? Wait, are you not? Yeah. Who isn't I can't wait till my kid's penis gets chopped. Is that Ryan Fisher? No, that was a joke. Sorry. You weren't sure. That was my Ryan. My kids like why I'm just joking. Oh, they know.

They know the CrossFit Games champions. Uh, James Fitzgerald, Jason Kleba, Miko Saylor, Graham Holmberg, Rich Froning, Ben Smith, Matt Fraser, Justin Maderas, Jeffrey Aller, James Frig, who is the most popular? Andrew Hiller has put together a chart. I have a list of my own. We'll see how it compares. Oh, you created a list. I did. So, let us begin.

Andrew, do you want to bring up your list? Sure. Ah, yes. Can you make it bigger? That's what she said. Is that big enough for you, sir? Yeah. Okay. Ah, yes. Can you make it bigger? That's what she said. Is that big enough for you, sir? Yeah. Okay. Let's go. Let's ask Caleb first. Caleb never gets any show time. Who said, oh God, Hiller?

Me. I have no idea what you said. Throw me behind the exerciser. No, no, no. I'm good behind the exerciser. Okay. Caleb, let's just start. We'll get a rough list going. Who is the least popular on the list? The least popular? Yeah.

I'm going to go with James Fitzgerald. Wow. Oh, wow. This is going to take a long time. John Young. Yeah. So I made a definitive ranking with a couple of, uh, concepts as to what would make that ranking.

And I just kind of went down the line for everybody. And I agree with Caleb. James Fitzgerald is my least popular. Wow. Okay. Uh, uh, uh, Bryson Damonte. I agree. Wow. You guys uh, Bryson Domonte. I agree. Wow. You guys really suck at this. Yo, uh, who is the least popular, uh, cross fitter, Miko crossfit games champion Miko. Whoa. You're out of your closet. Are you kidding me?

I think Miko has a bit of a legend behind him. Miko's Triangle. Okay, and I have Graham Holmberg. What? Yeah. I think that's understandable. It's just wrong, but Hiller's completely wrong. How is that even true? I bet James Sprigg doesn't even know who Miko Salo is.

I bet people who do the Miko's Tri triangle don't know who it's named after that might be true Doesn't matter. It's Mico's triangle. Oh my god. Okay, there was a James. There's is there a James triangle No, I'm like no picks. They don't even know what CrossFit is. I'd like to argue I'd like to argue make it more internet videos made off of I'd like to argue I'd like to argue make it more internet videos made off of James Fitzgerald than there have Miko Saylo for sure and the James Fitzgerald's ones are trash compared to the ones about me We're talking about popularity not whether or not you like them. There was a documentary called say low that was amazing. Oh Sisu yeah That's good. That's

Here's the thing. I think Graham Holmberg is the least popular. I don't think anyone knows who he is. I think his blip of claim to fame is the fact obviously he was the fittest that year, but because he went against Rich Froney and he's one of the few guys who beat Rich Froney, the I think his biggest video of all time that he ever did with CrossFit was he did double Fran. He was one of the first guys to do that on video. First guy I ever saw do a double Fran. He was one of the first guys to do that on video first guy I ever saw do a double Fran. Probably none of you guys even know that Bryson was in fucking diapers. I think I think that there's no question James Fitzgerald has fucking OPEX. There's people walking around with his picture on

their shirt, fucking our own our own Brian enemy is a OPEX magician. Brian enemy is a OPEX Certified magician But magician I would argue that makes him more unpopular than popular though because of Brian It's like wow that too but I'm just meaning like you're you don't know what he doesn't know what CrossFit is and tries to brand it as something else and He's you know, I think more cross fitters know what Mico's triangle is then know what OPEX is. And I don't think you're popular in the CrossFit world if you

abandon CrossFit. Probably the only affiliate or programming company that knows what OPEX is, is Training Think Tank. Are we allowed to change our opinions? Yeah, look at that. Of course, of course. That's the whole point. We're going to argue this out. Yeah, that's a great point that Caleb made. The train training think tank is basically a little polywag of OPEX It's just the it's just rebranded OPEX. You guys have changed my better. Oh, I'm home burgers number 10 now

You mean the least popular? Yes So the reason why Graham is not number 10 for me and he's he's number nine sneak peek but the reason why he's not number 10 for me and he's number nine sneak peek but the reason why he's not number 10 for me is because I think everybody will remember Graham is the person that beat Rich Froning right why like Rich Froning is one of the most popular people he would be on the Mount Rushmore he would be the first person inducted into the Hall of Fame if there was one and Graham Holmberg is the only guy to ever beat Rich Froning

at the CrossFit Games. That will forever be true and everybody will remember that. Graham Holmberg has had moments. You talk about double Fran, but I think about the track Triplet when him and Chris Spieler are flying. Like Graham Holmberg's moments might be somebody else's better moment, but he's there and you remember that barely you know name something that James Fitzgerald did that was amazing in the

CrossFit world other than he won the 2007 CrossFit game he shed all over it and made a whole bunch of people talk about him yeah yeah he brawled with CrossFit exactly there John it's how many people know them okay well I maybe then I'm thinking in terms of like good popularity. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's a notoriety. Let me ask you this. If we ask 10 people in the, uh, in the chat, um, do you know who Graham Holmberg is? Um, or, and we asked 10 people who James Fitzgerald is, who do you think gets more? I think Graham Holmberg.

Or we just say, I think more people with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, or and we asked 10 people who James Fitzgerald is who do you think gets more? I think Graham Hall and OPT or we just say I think more people with the no Graham Holmberg than James Fitzgerald. I agree John. Okay so is anyone still on the Miko Salo train or are we letting him off the hook? Miko's off my hook. Okay Caleb can we get a poll? Let's take this to the audience. Who's least popular, James Fitzgerald or Graham Holberg?

Should we have a fan vote? I like that idea. Yeah. Can we do that for each person or is that too much? Well, if we can't agree. Yeah, if we can't agree, we'll leave it up to the crowd. I like that too. John, do you think it's absurd? I'm starting to think it's, I'm so certain it's Graham. Are you so certain it's James?

No, no, I think if you want to say Graham, that's fine. It's just not Graham. It's James for me. It's not fight. It's not fighting words. Right. I think Graham is not a crazy pick to put in last, but Miko is a crazy pick to put in last. I agree completely with that statement. How long are we giving people to vote? Well that was defamatory towards Andrew Hiller. Bryson's OnlyFans would get more hits than them both.

That's true. Them both is a word I've never read before. I can show you guys the numbers in a little bit if we get over this topic. What do we got on the chat for 10? I can show you guys the numbers in a little bit if we get over this topic. What do we got on the chat for 10? All right, we're not gonna let this go long. Let's take a look at the poll. Marish just texted me and said, I've never heard of Miko in my life.

There you go. Oh my God. Who's less popular though? Who's less popular? Oh my God. Jim says Joe with the tenor. Oh my god. And you gotta understand, Savon, like you're the guy who is, who thinks Wilt Chamberlain is the best basketball player in the world.

That's a great point, John. Wilt Bastille, brother! Oh my god. Did he score a hundred in a game? A hungee? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He put it on a piece of paper and today somebody took a picture of it. He for sure did it. All right. Oh my God.

Oh my, is this, is this based on how popular they are right now or throughout their careers? Did they say it's, it's, it's right now and it's, it's what only what these people think. It's science. It's you guys and us. This is it. That's right.

This is the whole- You guys, for everyone who wants to know what Metfix is, this is it. This is it. Look at, this is how popular he is. This guy says, we hate Opex, bro. Yeah, that's because that's how popular it is. Nobody hates Graham. Nobody hates Graham.

That's how insignificant his popularity is. People who really wanted Rich to win that year do. You guys aren't understanding. What is it called when it's just increments away from... Hey, popularity is a subjective thing anyway, Hiller. So there's nothing to understand. Not for Caleb, it's not. He's on the pulse of popular.

How dare you? I fucking know stuff, dude. Okay. Should I end that poll now and move on to the next one? Yeah, right. I fucking know stuff, dude Okay, it's less try now and move on to the next one. All right. Yep. We're done. Okay, so James Fitzgerald least popular Okay, let's go to number two Bryson Del Monte. Who's your number two? No start with Kayla again, right? You know, it's always first. Yeah Okay, my number two number nine nine nine. Sorry. Sorry number nine second from the bottom We're gonna go with Jeffrey Adler I don't think there's gonna be a poll for this one

Wow, really? Should we ask Caleb why? Well, I don't think anybody, I don't think we're having an argument between these ones. That's just going to be your ranking. And I'm guessing we're going to average, we're going to average these and then see what the final 10 is at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is Adler's Instagram? 187. What's homebrews?

58. That's not fair. Instagram was invented in 2010. I got 20 gram homeburg one. I get it. I just wanted to see it. Well, there's just so many more people on Instagram now. I like that rating from Caleb honestly. I mean, too. It kind of fucked me up. It was Bryson, not Caleb. No, it was Caleb's. Oh, it was Caleb. John Young.

Who's your number nine? My number nine is Graham Holmberg. Are you ready to fight with Caleb over that? You got reasons? Brother. I mean, if he's got Jeff there, there's no helping him. There's no letting him. My number nine is Graham Holmberg. And if Caleb wants to argue about it it then Jeff Adler's tier contract

And is just all you need to look at what does that do for him? Everybody signed with dear everybody sees him on tears and step Graham Holmberg even a hopper here athlete Yeah, I don't know who I don't know who I don't know who that is Dude yeah, because I heard pop Ames field is a tier athlete. Yeah, you're just guess Bryson and you got lucky. Who's number nine for Bryce? I see him on their Instagram all the time. There's 79 tier athletes and one rad athlete.

Yeah, gram. And one guy who still works on his farm. Caleb, I think you're looking at this as like most liked champion, maybe. No, I don't know what I'm looking at. No, he's this as like most liked champion, maybe. No, I don't know what I'm looking at. No, he's just trying to telling you exactly what I think. Do you know what? Do you know what shoes Graham Holmberg wears? I don't know what shoes I wear.

Right, right, right. Oh, oh, oh, oh, okay. Oh shit. The mustaches are fighting. We can rub them together. You guys want Andrew Hiller. Who do you have number nine? I moved James into the nine hole and Migo really moved his way up when someone told

me, reminded me of the sailor documentary that really swayed my opinion of him. You're welcome. So you have James and then who has 10, but who do you have as nine? No, no, no. Graham is 10. Graham Holmberg is 10 and James is 9 for me. No, the poll, sorry, but you lost that. We all lost that already. No, the chat vote. We have a ranking for the chat vote too.

Yeah. Oh, oh, I see what you're doing. What the fuck? Yeah, what do you mean? What is your ranking for this person? He doesn't, he's somewhere else. savan. Who's your number nine? Wow, so we're gonna add all these up and take averages. We're just gonna take an average, right? Oh My goodness. Yeah, this is science, dude. Now. Who do you have in nine? Oh god, the other thing fucked me up I don't know that bad, huh? I mean dude, that's making me think that maybe James Sprague should be number nine I mean dude, it's making me think that maybe James Sprague should be number nine No, it needs to be your ranking Savon. Don't let other people influence you. Well, you know, that's why you're here I'm here to be influenced

That's who are an influencer Savon This is like I'm gonna stick with Graham Holmberg at number nine I'm gonna stick with Graham Holmberg and number nine. I'm gonna stick with Graham Holmberg in number nine. You have him as ten. You have him as ten. Oh. Oh, okay, fine. Oh, then James Fitzgerald, sorry. Then James Fitzgerald.

All right, all right. All right, all right. Jeez, man. That took five minutes to keep. I keep forgetting what we're doing. I keep forgetting that we've changed. Oh my God. Yeah.

Does the chat just put, what's his face in the nine Miko Graham you mean Graham? Said yes. Well here do you just want to ask the chat and then the first five names that pop up? That'll be who they say What the first one to get five names? I mean we could just put them between our votes which would be Holmberg Fitzgerald and ever between our votes, which would be Holmberg, Fitzgerald, and Adler. Like who would be number nine? I think we only use them when we want to. The chat?

When it's like, we can't decide. So do you want to erase that then, Hiller, and then just let me do the deciding vote? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, put the average, put the average, like that'll be the average column. Yeah. Or make a space, make a space. That way they're not next to say anything you say John

I'm everyone in the chat once I'm under the exercise the logo instead of seven. No, I'm fine. I'm fine We could take can we take off the exercise or logo? Yeah, sure Okay, one, four, five. Okay. Wrong. Look at Hiller trying to use. Okay.

Number eight. Eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one. How many are there? There's 10? Is that how many there are? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 Oh that worked out perfect for us Okay, number 8, Caleb

Who's near number 8? Matt Fraser Yep Holy shit Facts, no cap 9.6 is the average, Hila Wow I was just trying to make the computer do it for me I got cuz that I can do this. I saw I saw you like struggling. I'm just a freaking moron, dude. All right

All right, he got Fraser. Yeah, and it I like that vote I don't know if I agree with it by also enjoy it so far Caleb is by far the most egregious person here. Oh Oh I'm the most egregious person here. Oh wow. Oh I'm the most egregious? Yes. I need to take a sip of my fit aid and and Casamigos. I enjoy it as well but it's just crazy. Interesting. Okay uh John Young who do you have in number the number eight spot? My number eight is Jeff Adler. Oh my God. Below Miko Salo or James Sprague? Who said oh my God there? You have Jeffrey Adler?

Yeah, I don't think Jeff Adler, I think Jeff Adler is the least popular modern day champion. I don't think people talk about him at all. Who do you think is more popular, Caroline Lambre or Jeffrey Adler? I think they are similar Wow Bryson you thought Caleb was crazy who's crazier John or Caleb Still Caleb. Okay, Caleb still winning Bryson. Who do you have in the number eight spot? I have Miko And who do you have in the number eight spot? I have Nico.

And number eight. Who do you have? Is it all worth wondering what these votes are going to look like in a decade? Because when you guys threw Adler into eight and nine, I'm now thinking like who's going to even remember who won the cross for games the year after Maderas. And like that really now I want to throw Adler into the eight hole which I'm gonna do I think that was one of the most irrelevant CrossFit Games champions of all time I just don't find him very popular at all and he has an advantage

though because he was one of the five athletes at the 2020 games. That was the first time a lot of people heard of Adler and he was one of only five athletes to care about that year. I think Fraser and Justin are the only people that there will take away from the 2020 games. Cause Justin was a rookie and he made it in his third place and that's a good story. And then I'm not saying people, I'm not saying anyone idolizes Adler because of the 2020 games. I'm just saying more people know who he is than Miko Saylo.

That okay that may be that may be true that may be true I won't deny that but I am not looking at popularity as just the most people. Oh good thing we're on the most popular CrossFit games. No, no, no, no I think popularity a little of it has to do with like the legend of who you are and maybe you have to be a nerd To know that legend But the real CrossFitters out there like the OG CrossFitters I bet Miko Saylo resounds with them more than Jeffrey Adler who could sell more wrist straps Miko Saylo or Jeffrey Adler Miko Saylo and like if you were if you were around in 2011 you know Miko say I agree with that John I agree with that most popular cross-fitter there was until Rich Froning I

agree with that, but I Just don't think that's popularity has Jeff Adler ever been the most popular cross-fitter in any year because Miko Salo was for about four years. Yeah, I will say this about Miko. The legend around Miko is in the same as Rich and Matt. Like the legend. I disagree with that. Okay, well then it's right below them. Do you know what I mean? Yes. Like there's no one else who has like that mystique. There's well then it's right below them. Do you know what I mean? Yes. There's no one else who has that mystique. There's Rich and there's Matt and there's Mika who have the mystique, but I'm talking about who's the most popular. More people know Dan Bailey than Jeff Adler. But saying that he was the most popular crossfitter and Jeff Adler was never- That's because he went to ziti parties.

That was because of just the era he was in. Greg's first personal training client was the most popular CrossFitter ever at one point when they were the only CrossFitter to exist. Wow. That doesn't matter. That's just, that doesn't make any sense. It's just like, I like that. You could say,

so let me ask you, who's the number eight? Hold on. Let me ask you this before I get to it. Okay. So would we all agree that Adler could sell more product than Miko? Yes. Right now?

Yes. Then let me ask this, who could sell more programming? Adler. Miko. Carolyn Lambray. Carolyn Lambray. But if Carolyn Lambray was going to sell programming, would Jeff not be the face of it?

No, he would. No, she would be. Yes, he would, dude. No, he'd be on every single video. No, every single picture. No. CrossFit Games champ. And wouldn't say one word.

Yes. He's trash. Hey, I don't like him. He's not trash. He's not trash. He's super fit. He's not trash. Trash is not what ETHER is. And I agree with you that more people know Jeff Adler than Miko Salo.

I just think there's a legend to Miko Salo in the CrossFit community and that is that plays a part in popularity. Like for me, if it doesn't for you, it's fine. For me it does. It's like in kindergarten where there's all this construction paper You gotta go choose what you want to use to draw and it's like all the colored pieces and someone chooses They're like just a plain old piece of paper. You know, everyone's like what that guy you guys think James Briggs

We choose from he goes last or or I'll tell you this Bryson So like if I bet you in 15 years if Jeff doesn't win again if he wins again little different But if Jeff doesn't win again, this was his peak and now he's and now he's like third place and down for the rest Of his career in 15 years You will still know the name Miko Saylo and I bet Jeff Adler you take a minute to think about it I agree, but no chance. Yes, because it's 15 years from when Miko Saylo was relevant and you know him I don't like Cross fit wasn't even relevant And yet you still know his name

Yeah, but not because I knew him when he was doing it I only know him because we have conversations like this, right? But I'm saying Jeff won't be in those conversations He'll be a James but Jeff was part of the modern era of CrossFit. So it doesn't matter. It won't be already part of an era where CrossFit is important itself. And CrossFit is popular. Jeff will be a member of Carolyn Lambray's affiliate and nobody else.

Okay. Honestly, John, John, John swayed me there. Okay, hold on. Let me ask. Let me ask this though. You think Jeff Adler is is is less popular than James spray Yes. Yes now Don't look at the buttery bros video. That's all we got to do

What are you made a video with Adler and with spring which one's got more views? Which one is it? They're both in the past six months and which one do you know off the top of your head? What's the question? You know, which one's more popular? No, I will look. It'll take me four seconds. Okay, James Sprague.

We're letting the buttery bros decide here. James Sprague. Science. Wow, Shawn Lenderman has a Sprague is 10 and Adler is 9. And like, and I think James will remain popular before the very reason like he should have never won the games. But he got 55. The wild, wild thing that he won the games. Like he might never be top five again.

That's kind of, that is kind of a good point. But we're talking about who's more popular now, but go on. Right, but I'm saying he currently is the fittest man in the world. What has Jeff Adler done? One event and stopped. Like, you know, what have you done for me now? Then James wins. Wow. That's funny. That's pretty hilarious. Yeah, but Jack and Dolestrom is more popular than both of them. So it just shows what our

points are here. Duh. Okay, I'm gonna have to go to the audience here with this one. Miko Saylo or Jeff Adler, can you guys help me decide who to put down there? Jeez. Are we putting Adler? Wait, should we put Sprague in this too? Okay. Yeah. I don't think we should do a poll here because I feel like we're talking amongst five different, like four different guys. Well, let's do all three. Let's say who's the least popular Miko, James, or Jeffrey? And I have Jeff of those three. James or Jeffrey. And I have Jeff of those three. You said Miko, James and Jeff.

Yeah, who's the least popular? For the record, for the record, Bryson. I think if I got no problem with you having those. Who's the eight for you? Either. I don't have it yet. I have a, I think I have, who do I have? I have Graham is, I'm letting the audience decide for me. I have Graham is 10.

James is 9. James is 9 and I don't know do I have? I have Graham is, I'm letting the audience decide for me. I have Graham is 10. James is nine. James is nine. And I don't know who I'm putting in eight. I'm either going to put Miko, James or Sprague. These lines are jumping. Can we see the goal? It's getting a little crazy. You want to see it?

Yeah. Vote for who you think is the least popular now. Sorry, now. I should have put it at the end. Now. Wow. Okay. I want to emphasize it. Got to make sure everybody knows it. Not least, not most. Salon, is that your vote now? Adler's going to be eight for you because of this? Yep. Yep. Yep. Wow. That's all it takes. Consensus

science right there. I'm sticking with Miko. This is broken science. Put me down for Adler for eight eight please. I'm gonna stop arguing on my points. I feel like I'm influencing this too much. No, you're doing good. No, that's what you're supposed to do. That's kind of the point. You're the senior analyst,

a senior analist in the process. If Jason Taylor gives a whole bunch of money somewhere to say something he's influencing us. I heard Taylor tell somebody to suck his dick with their asshole, with his asshole. No, with their asshole today. How does that work? I've never heard that before.

That's just anal. Suck my dick with your asshole. Hey, suck my dick with your asshole. Hiller. Uh, no, I don't think I'm going to do that. Okay. Number seven, Caleb. Uh, I don't know.

I'm rich. Froning. the Uh, you guys are too close to the sport. General Crossfitters have no, no clue. That's a fucking loopy where I was trying to stay over here. That's my entire point. Well, okay, what am I number seven? It's like that might as well be Grace. Number six. Yeah, but when you're comparing it between Fitzgerald and Miko. And now Adler. To have Adler's different.

To have Graham Holmberg more popular than Matt Fraser is ridiculous, Caleb. Seven, I'm saying Jason Kalipa. Oh my god What the guy is out of the legitimate vote, dude? No, are you I mean not Views on some fight video he made no wait, what was his Kennedy? Yeah He's a we do not if we're saying mass populace popularity. Yeah, sure. He's up there He's not very popular in the process base anymore. That is what we're saying. We're saying most popular Oh period Yeah, period right now still right now

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Come on man. Yeah on. Thank you. Number, who did you say Caleb? Jason Kalipa? Jason Kalipa, yep. That's what I said. And John said James Sprague? Who do you got Bryson? I think specifically we're talking about right now. It's Jason Kalipa. Honestly, I can't believe that Jason's it.

I can't believe you guys are putting it at seven. You guys are out of your fricking minds. I agree. Tell me more. Do tell me more. Ah, you're, you're comparing. Lay it out. Somebody who's

walking into an amelior today and ask people if they know who James Sprague is and then ask them if they know who Jason Kleep is, more people know who James Sprague is. And I still think it's not a lot for both. I can see you walking down the path that is like James continues on for a handful of years and he makes a name for himself, but Jason already made the name for himself. Yeah, in an old era where people sucked. More people. In Jiu Jitsu. Talk about who's fitter. No, no. More people in my gym would know Jason Kaleepa than Sprague.

I think more people in our gym would know Sprague. Who do you have as number seven, John? Sprague? Yeah. Who do you have as number seven, Bryson? Kaleepa. Who do you have as number seven Bryson? Kalipa I'm putting nico in seven screw you guys He moved up the list from 10 for me. That's pretty big jump. Let me let me um, let me uh, Let me just throw this out there really quick. Just bear with me here. Don't get all fucking emotional I know this is gonna be emotional. I know ben smith has had a resurgence I know he's more popular now than he was three years ago but you don't think Ben Smith should be

in the conversation for number seven? Ben Smith is number two. Whoa. You're never coming on the show again. I gotta go to Walmart and return this mic and headset if I'm never coming back on Fuck is going on Who do you have his number seven you have Miko? Say hello, Hiller? Yeah, he made it. He moved his way up the list for me. You think Ben Smith's more popular than Miko? Say hello. Absolutely You see Ben Smith Ben Smith litany of YouTube videos that are just a history book of CrossFit stuff. It's going to be hard to overturn that for me. Okay.

Number seven, I'm going with Miko Salo too. Okay. Number six. You have people over Ben Smith seven? Number six, Caleb. My number six is going to be Graham. That's wild. Why is he number six is gonna be Graham That's wild Why is he number six for you?

Cuz he's made bro That's all you gotta say Mr. John Young my number six is Miko Sayo Okay Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. generous of a James Sprague.

Okay. I'm putting, I'm going to James Sprague too. I think that was very generous of you, Sevan to put in there. I think James Sprague is number six. Okay. You think I'm about right then, Hiller? With your seven? Yeah. No, I think that was pretty rude. Okay. Put him at seven. He's a solid six and a half. Solid six, five. Yeah. There's no, I think that was pretty rude. Okay He's a solid six and a half solid six five. Yeah, there's no I support it Caleb

Number five the fifth most popular crossfitter who's won the crossfit games who has a penis Well, those are the only ones as far as we know He's thinking hard about this one. She still has killed. He still has me on the board. Is it my turn? Yeah. Sorry.

Number five. Star, my Elon said I couldn't have internet for five seconds. Number five. I'm going to say me go there for that one. Okay. Okay. Uh, John Young, my number five is, uh, Ben Smith, raising Del Monte, Jeff Adler. Wow. Hot damn. Damn. Wow. Too high bro. You're crazy. I don't even like Jeff. It's just objective. Bro, you smoking ball right now?

Let me see your eyes. Andrew Hiller, who's your number five? Smith. What? Who the hell else is gonna be there? Maybe Maderas, but like nah, it's freaking Smith. Yeah, it's Ben Smith. Let me see what's Maderas' Instagram look. Okay yeah I'm going with Ben Smith also. Okay we're moving

right along. Number four the fourth most popular crossfitter who won the CrossFit Games, who has a penis, Caleb. Four is going to be Justin right now. Oh, Justin Madaris, okay. Yeah. John Young. I too have Justin Madaris at four. Damn it, I want you to be. We're going across the board, Justin at four out here. Oh snap.

Justin Madaris. Oh snap. Justin's going to be the fourth player on the board. I hear Justin. There's oh Justin's going to be the fourth most five with the less than on rex. Uh he's going to wreck it. Caleb, your average is

going to put Matt in fourth place and it's going to piss me off so much. You're welcome. Did you ever say why? No we just. We could always throw out the lowest and highest numbers or whatever however you do that. In the name of science. Outliers. Okay I'm stuck between Jason and Justin.

I have Jason currently at number four. Justin is significantly more popular than Jason Cleepa. I think, um, Jason Cleepa's name has been around for about what 16 years now. Dude, it doesn't matter how long it's been around. We're talking about right now. Yeah, and No, we're not we're talking about how popular are they he just right now talking about how popular they are right now We've said that with Tim Kennedy that got like a million views where he fights him Kennedy He works out against him Kennedy and he's Tim Kennedy

Is okay, but is it nobody the military? You count Kennedy bro. Okay, Brice and you drop both of them into vendor village. I'm like a helicopter Yeah, bigger crowd Justin hundred percent. I agree. Yeah That was a bad not even close. I think Justin gets it and also just because Jason Khalifa showed up on Tim's Instagram Okay, Kennedy is more popular than any CrossFitter People seeing that don't know they don't it doesn't track in their brain like oh yeah, that's Jason Khalifa. The dude who won the CrossFit games a couple times before you drop in the middle of my

dad was no one knows who that is and they forget about it as soon as they scroll past it. Times Square I think Jason Khalifa gets a bigger crowd. There you go. Shut up John. That doesn't even make any sense. Yeah, it makes sense to me. the crowd. There you go. Shut up, John. That doesn't even make any sense. Yeah, it makes

sense to me. John. It makes sense to me, John. Okay, let me ask you guys again. Who do you have as number four, Caleb? Uh I have Justin as number four and John, you have Justin. Seven. They're all on the screen. Hold me. Oh, oh. Yeah.

Yeah. I can't see that. I I don't understand the graph really too. He doesn't have his readers on. You don't understand the graph? No, I don't. Who do I? I just look at someone's name. This is the most professional graph I've ever seen in my life. Oh, yeah. I'm going to go. I'm going to the polls again.

I'm going to the polls. What's the poll now? What do you want? Justin and Jason. Who's more popular, Jason or Justin? Guys, listen to this. Who wants to be a millionaire? I'm going to ask the audience.

A little bit. Who's more popular, Jason or Justin? I know Justin's more popular. Dude, you should phone a friend. Call Greg. Call Greg. Hey, Greg, who's more popular? Hey, look at the people.

I mean, Jason's been in so many videos with Rich and Dan, and he did the team, and he had the drama when he was on the team with with Miranda and he had the NC fit affiliates and he he's just he's everywhere people love Justin though dude like every one they don't love him every new every new CrossFitter is obsessed with Justin I just think I think I think Justin could probably sell more wrist straps I just think Jason's more popular I think he has a bigger name look at the IG following I think I think Justin could probably sell more wrist straps I just think Jason's more popular I think he has a bigger name look at the IG following I yeah I don't think it's um force I think I think it goes back to vindicate just saying we're all oh shit let's go that's crazy that is tight that

is tight who's more popular? Jason Kaliper or Justin Madero? I do think it's very close. That is hell of a close one. Taylor's butt hole is tight right there. Bryson, how many times have you seen Taylor naked today? Today? Zero because we didn't work at his house, but if we work at his house, it's usually upwards of five. He has like three or four apparel changes, outfit changes.

Do you call work at his house? He showers every time he poops. He showers every time he poops. He showers every time he poops. He showers every time he poops. He showers every time he poops. He showers every time he poops. He showers every time he poops.

He showers every time he poops. He showers every time he poops. He showers every time he poops. He showers every time he poops. He showers every time he poops. He showers every time he poops. He showers every time he poops. He showers's usually upwards of five. He has like three or four apparel changes, outfit changes. Do you call work at his house? He showers every time he poops because he doesn't like to wipe his butt he just gets in the shower. Why don't you just wipe it for him? Think of a day like a standing bidet. He's over everything. I mean I think that's I think that's it. I think Jason Clippo is number four. Hold on need a couple minutes. I'm giving this two minutes.

It's only going up. It's not getting better. There could be a huge swing. Oh, Teresa, my husband does that. Wow, that's weird. That's fucking weird, dude. I mean, that's really good hygiene. No. I mean, it's definitely cleaner than just smearing shit all over your ass with paper If you got shit on your hand you could never wipe it off with toilet paper be like, okay I'm good. You've never taken a shit in the port of bodies ever did for your life. So listen

So who is more popular people are saying Justin Madera. So that means I put Jason Kalipa's for all right, right? There we go Fuck. All right. All right. Done. Uh, oh, so, so, and you guys put Justin. Yep. Hey, Taylor needs a mid day for his birthday. Did I do that? Right. Did I understand that poll? Right. Yes. So, so Jason would be your number four if you go by the poll. So I'm like, come on, I'll Harris. I just go, I'm a populist. I just do whatever the people want. I'm just trying to get people.

That's right. You say that all the time. Are you gonna start changing your accent too or what? Hey now. You're an all star. You're an all star. Okay, number three. We've been in lockstep this whole podcast.

Yes we have. Caleb Beaver number three. Who's, hold on, let's see. I don't even know who's on this list. Only number three. Yeah. Let's go. We'll go James Craig for number three. Fucking James. Wow. Okay. Yeah. That's fair. That makes sense. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, not the first. Johnny, why number three? I have writ Jason Kalipa. OK, you fucking Bryson Del Monte. I'm going to have to retract my previous statement that I just said for shock value.

I actually do have Ben Smith in third. Wow. OK, fair enough enough Andrew Hiller Koleepa I've Justin Medeiros You sure you don't want to ask the audience to see if you should maybe bump them over a richer I'm good for the shit of it. I'm good. All right Okay, Caleb number two. Number two is Ben Smith. Wow. Okay. I like that. I like that. My number two is Matt Fraser. Oh my God, bro. You want me to say Rich? You mean number eight? Yeah. Bryson Del Monte.

I don't know how permanent this is, but I'm going to say Matt Frazier. What do you mean you don't know how permanent it is? You're done talking. Andrew Hiller. I could be convinced otherwise. Oh, I agree with Bryson. Andrew Hiller. I agree with Bryson. Frazierer. I agree with Bryson.

Frazier's number two. Did Frazier win the games in 2018? Yes. Yes. I thought you were asking if he ever won the games. So listen, Matt Frazier won the games when it was the most difficult to win. If you believe that the open is relevant to that, meaning there were, that was the largest open CrossFit ever had, like 480,000 people entered the open is relevant to that. Meaning that was the largest open CrossFit ever had.

Like 480,000 people entered the open. Yeah, and Rich wouldn't have made it that year if he was competing individual. He won the game five times. And? The COVID year was huge. Lots of noise. He was a superstar.

That was actually the smallest field of all time. He's won way more events than Rich Froning The field was small. Yeah, it's not it's not fitness though. He is the fittest person in history about that I'm not talking about the fittest. I'm talking about the most popular the folklore around Matt is fucking crazy He's won more so many fucking events that fine He he did that he played with Justin Maderas's little peanut in that at that games. He finished that final event log with Tia Toomey. I think if Annie has a movie made after that.

Yeah, I want to change my mind. So I'm changing my mind. If Annie won three more championships, three more three more cross game championship, any door starter. I think she'd be more popular than Tia. I agree. I think if she wins what I think if she wins one more embrace And popular no, but in saying yes, sir Yeah, he has got more championships T is fitter T is like whatever all the things you're saying about Matt Fraser And I know you're just playing devil's advocate and I'm the big I'm way team Fraser over frowning because I believe he's the fittest man we've ever seen

He's the fittest person we've ever seen Pete Fraser. Nobody has touched. Nobody's come close Fraser was on road again, including to you Fraser's on Rogan, but rich Rich and look what he did with it Yeah, it sucked. I think I think I think rich is the most popular person Gerald argument right there. Look what he did with it. Okay, so let me also talk about some crazy shit that Froning's done. Froning had probably the most influential movie in the history of CrossFit. That thing went on fucking Netflix and exploded. That probably got more competitors into CrossFit than anything else.

I'm not saying that... and Froning's gym has 700 clients and Frazier's gym drives people away, drives people insane. Do you guys think that there is anybody? I stole that line from someone. I don't know who I saw that. Do you guys think there is anyone who knows who Rich Froning is who does not know who Matt Frazier is? Because I bet there are people who know who Matt Frazier is that don't know who Rich Froning is. Not a time. Not a time. I would say the opposite. That's a pretty good argument.

The exact opposite dude. You guys are stupid. Dude, you just started CrossFit yesterday. There's no way you can think that. I am pretty stupid, but that's a good argument. First there's it's not at people who like Rich Froning idolize Rich Froning. Oh, yeah. Amen, brother. Name one person. Praise the Lord Jesus. Do idolize the sim. My Instagram, my Instagram bio says rich frowning God family. And then whatever the next one is, I just told Taylor earlier before we even knew

about the show that 90% of the CrossFit apparel that I have is because I saw Rich wearing it and I was like, wow, that looks cool. I want to wear that because rich for it. I have the only CrossFit game athlete shirt I have in my closet is rich frowning and I got fucking 15 of them and I wear one every day at least some point during the day I wear it. John, john and Caleb, how do you think that there's people? Yeah, get them know who frowning is that don't know who Matt Frazier

is, you would have to have watched CrossFit. I think if you got into CrossFit early and then but you don't stop caring about the sport, you didn't keep up with it. You still know who Matt Frazier is. He won five times in a row and was like on the face of everything CrossFit for those years. It doesn't even matter if it wasn't game. So 15,000 working on the garage.

How about this one? Frowning has his own shoe. 15,000 working out in the garage. How about this one? Froning has his own shoe. So does Matt Frazier. Yeah, is anybody going to wear Matt Frazier's shoe? No, I have my Froning's right over there and I've been wearing them every day for the last month. Yeah, that's fucking Friday. I think the person who made the sport big, who blew up the sport will always be more popular than the person who's the best at the sport. First of all, like I think the broad, that's what I'm saying. I think Rich Froning is the Michael Jordan of CrossFit. Who's more popular? Greg

Glass. Hey, guess what, dude? Guess what, dude? CrossFit is the guy who created CrossFit, the guy who swooped in and bought it. I'm going to go with Eric. Rosa. Oh right. My bad.

Forgot about him. How dare you. Okay. Uh, let's take this one to the polls. Who's more popular? Didn't you pick Matt to be second? Who? Bryson.

I did, but then I changed my mind. Why are you arguing the opposite? You are. I changed my mind. I changed my mind. Sevan convinced me. He said, I didn't say you convinced yourself. You're so-

He got 20. When I said it, dude. Dude, I said it. You can quote me. I said that it's not permanent. I said- He said, I can be convinced. But nobody was talking except you against your own self.

You wanted to be convinced. Dude, Sevan started sucking Frazier's dick. And I wanted to join in. You wanted some grace. That's what you wanted. Five champions, the biggest finishes, the most dominant. Did it with Tia, so there was even more eyeballs on him. They did?

Yeah, they did. Whoa, damn. He even had, it was like Highlander. He went and worked out at Mayhem, and there was drama. Even getting more, they had to do that fake ass handshake fucking post. His chest is worth it. He's notorious. That's what I'm saying, dude. Anyone who knows who Froning is, knows who Frazier is, but it does not do that the other

way around. No. There's people who started CrossFit yesterday who know who Frazier is and don't know who Rich Froning is. Who? Can we see the poll, Caleb? Well, it's someone who just started yesterday. Uh, who's more, who's more popular? who just started yesterday. Show me, name these people.

Who's more popular? They don't want to be talked about on the podcast. Wait, what did you say? Frason, what did you say? I said there's people who started CrossFit yesterday and know who Frasier is and don't know who Rich Froning is. And John said who, and I said, they asked me not to talk about them

or release their name on the podcast. I understand. Just know. Like, so there's- They asked me not to talk about them or release their name on the podcast. I understand. Just know. Dave, Tom, no one likes Matt Sevan. We love Sevan. That's fair. I've had interactions with guys at my gym that really like Rich Froning, follow Rich Froning, but they just go and work out. They're not into the sport.

And then they're like, I know the Matt guys beating him in the championships thing, but Richard's still my guy. And they reference him as the Matt guy. They don't really know Frazier. They just know that he's beaten rich. I think we should still their guy. But that's what we're talking about. Everyone in the comments, getting mad that we're talking about knowing them. That's what our definition of popularity has been so far. Yeah, it is. It is. You're right. Okay. It's not about liking them.

Froning is way cooler. Let me, yeah, but who's gonna probably, let me say this. He is way cooler. But I will say this. Fraser is a lone beast. Froning has a whole cast of fucking characters. Can I please say this? Angelo DiCicco, that guy who fucking-

Oh, that's a good point fucking Royce Dunst in Australia, Paige Powers, Haley Adams. He's got this swirling Samuel, Samuel Cornway. He's got this whole swirling orgy around him. Wow. Which also which also lends to his popularity. I also think- Holy shit. Holy shit. I think in 2021, the answer would be Frazier.

Look at this. I think his popularity has went down the further he gets away from CrossFit. Where Rich- No, dude, you can't go down. If someone knows you, they don't just not. They still don't just stop knowing. We argue with this. Yes, they go with Miko though. Like I mean, I think you're just going by a different standard than what I'm

going by, which is fine. It's your list. It's fine. But I think Fraser's popularity has went down since he left the sport. John's passive. I don't think Froning's racing. That's not cool. But John's doing how does your popularity go down? So so Frazier does your less relevant shit makes dumb videos So people just forget who he is go look at Camille LeBlanc as an evil start hating him You're not hating him John. I started rating him because of his antics after winning the games or after retiring I started hating him, but I still know who he is

True good point and that is the popularity, but do you know who he is. I'm starting to hate him but I still know who he is. True good point and that is the popularity. But do you know who he is as a person. Okay Caleb who do you who do you have okay- thank you Caleb for the ball- who do you have Caleb is number one number one is gonna be rich brother

number one who's your number two so brother. And who's your number two? So, wait, it's seven. Who's your number two? Whoever's not as good as my number two is Matt Fraser. Alright. Uh and Bryson wants to switches. Well, dude, I don't want to look like I'm sucking Frazier's dick. I

I don't like the guy but I'm just saying more people know who he is. Listen, you're an objective journalist. No, you're fine. You're fine, man. What are you, Bryson? If you were a one on Frazier. I've never bought a pair of shoes because I saw Matt wearing them. I'll just say that.

So what does he really think for you? Because every shoe he's made has been dog shit. Yeah, I agree. Taylor's going to make your dick suck his ass. I'm changing you back to a two, Bryson, for Frazier. Oh, really? I don't know. Let him decide, Bryson.

Bryson is his own man. Bryson, what do you want? Well, decide for me, dude. I decide for me. I don't know. Let him decide Bryson. What do you want? Decide for me What are we saying popular is then I just change it to I love you whatever you want right, so if you went to everyone's house on planet Earth or hut or Wherever the fuck they live homeless shelter and like you walked in on a Haitian in Ohio and he was eating a dog and you said, Hey, do you know who Matt Fraser is? Or do you know who Rich Froning is? Who would know the most? So it has nothing to

do with how much they like them. If you walked in their house at a boner, okay, it has nothing to do with how much they like them. Then I have Rich Froning in second and Matt Fraser in first. Yeah. If you if you walked around with two pictures and said, who would you know either of these guys? More people would say Matt Frazier. Yeah. That's what you're saying. And then they'd steal my dog.

Hey, Sevan, we should do this. Have somebody just walk down the California street that you live on and say who they know these two people in video. They don't, they're NPCs. They just walk in back and they're're not a Frazier was a Nike athlete Damn and so was Hopper. So is I don't know who hoppers dude. You keep talking about him. I don't know who this guy is Keeping supposed to mean something. It's like being a tear athlete dude. It doesn't mean fuck all. Oh But they have carbon-plated shoes Being Caleb. What? Make you 20% better. Caleb. Bryson. Bryson.

Bryson. Being a Nike athlete is like being a tear athlete. That's no dude. Popularity is not being liked. Popularity is not being liked. Look at all of the track athletes in the fucking diamond league or whatever the fuck it's called and they're all Nike athletes It doesn't mean shit. They don't pay for them to go over there. They don't co-pay for them to race They just get a pair of shoes. I guess what Nike paid doesn't rager to do shit, though Nobody cares about the diamond league Christoph Eliza Nike paid for Frazier to do shit

Nike fucking flew Frazier wherever he wanted made him go to these camps with Josh Bridges so they could jerk each other off Anyway, he's not just some random track athlete at some random college Fucking flew Frazier wherever he wanted. Made him go to these camps with Josh Bridges so they could jerk each other off. And he went to different parties. He's not just some random track athlete at some random college. Who would Diddy invite to a party first, Frazier or Rich? 100% Frazier. Diddy doesn't know who Rich Froening is.

He probably knows who Matt Frazier is. He definitely knows who Trista Smith is. Oh my goodness. Out of left field, out Battle of Field. Okay. So, do we have them all in there? Okay. Are you going to, are you going to, let me see, let me see the calculations here. Ben Smith, James has a, James has a, wait, how does James have have can we move their average next to their name wait oh James Fitzgerald has a 10 10 10 9 9 he said that so quick i did it i just i just moved those over there okay so we have is the most popular athlete uh in CrossFit is Rich Froning

the most popular athlete in CrossFit is Rich Froning and then in the second position we have Matt Fraser. And then we have Ben S. Ben Smith. No no no no no sorry Justin M. Justin Maderas. Oh Justin Maderas okay Rich Froning, Matt Fraser, Justin Maderas, Ben Smith, Jason Kalipa, James Freig, Miko Salo, Jeffrey Adler, and then James Fitzgerald, oh no, then Graham Holmberg, and then James Fitzgerald. I feel like that's a definitely solid list. You got two by Rich and you put one. You got two by Rich and you put one. Nice. Okay. Wow. Okay, one more time.

The least popular, the most popular, James Fitzgerald, Graham Holmberg, Jeffrey Adler, number seven, Miko Salo, Number six, James Sprague. Number five, Jason Kliepa. Number four, Ben Smith. That one's fucked up. Just Madero's number three. Matt Fraser number two, Rich Froney number one. Is there anything in here you just,

I agree with all of them except Ben Smith and Jason Kliepa. I like the list. I like you too, but I think Ben Smith and Jason Kliepa. You think that Jason Kliepa is more popular than Ben Smith. Yeah, I Do Do we think that do we think that Taylor is not last on this list? Taylor self No, not last. I think Taylor is

Ninth I think Taylor's last Taylor's he's ahead of Graham Holmberg. Taylor's 11th. I think- Taylor's last. Taylor's last. He's ahead of Graham Holmberg. Taylor's 11th. I agree, John. Should we just plug in random crossfitters now and see what's- Yeah. To be fair. To be fair, Bryson. Just go through the whole games field.

I think Caleb would be ahead of Graham Holmberg. I agree. I agree. Wow. Congratulations, Caleb. Hey, if this is a present day thing, you're not wrong. Come on, man. I mean, at least 400 people know who he is. That's more people than no gram, right? What about the Jackson Hooper guy you keep talking about, Hiller? Who's

that? You mean Mitchell? No, Jason, you said his name was? Oh, Hopper. Oh, sorry. He messaged me saying I can't put you in my videos. I don't even know who he is, so that's crazy. Ace, Ace, Beau, Bo, Pre. Seb on chat, how much more popular would Adler be if he competed? Do we think he would have won this year and maybe been more popular? John Young. No, I do not think he would have won this year no I

think he stays the same Caleb no Bryson I don't think it has any effect do you think he would have won this year yes Andrew Hill No, he wouldn't have won. He had a thought. No, that's why he didn't. That's why he did not. Right. I don't think that's why he did not. If you're saying that he competed, then you're implying that he didn't have that thought

and he continued to compete. Yes. No, I don't think he may have won if they had reset the swim event like they wanted to. I don't think he may have one if they had reset the swim event like they wanted to. I don't think he, I don't think he competed because of a thought. I think he didn't compete for a different reason. Cause his wife had a thought, his wife had a thought. No thoughts, no thoughts involved why he didn't compete.

So he just dropped out for no reason. There's just nothing going on. That's not true, John. Screw the CrossFit games. I'm out. John, go ahead. I think Adler would have won easy, but why, why do you think? No shot. I don't think there was any strength tested at all. I think out. John, go ahead. I think Adler would have won easy, but why do you think-

No shot. I don't think there was any strength tested at all. I think it was all a cardio thing. I think you have to count that 20th place- You think he dropped out because he saw the workouts? No, no, not at all. I think that 20th place in the swim alone, and he wouldn't have won because of that.

Alone. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Okay, but he still had a thought and dropped out. Yeah, that's- I don't think that's why he dropped out Doesn't matter what the reason is he thought about that reason and dropped out because of that thought Good job, I think that this 20 20 place finish is really gonna hold me back. Yeah Yeah, I could see did that

Alright guys. Thank you very much great show We'll be back soon with the women's list of most popular games athletes You can see this list and find this on the barbell spin the fastest and quickest news in the CrossFit space I'm sure they will take this scientific data and publish it. Bryson thank you John Young thank you Hiller Caleb how close for you go to that Shadigan Caleb how soon? Not soon. Okay bye bye.