The Sevan Podcast - REVIEW of TDC WIR 06/24/2024
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This is gonna be a wild one
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I haven't seen this.
I haven't seen this show yet, but boy, so many people are talking.
So many people are talking.
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The chatter.
Emma.
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Scott.
Yo, this is going to be good.
This one's going to be wily, I think.
It's 28 minutes, man.
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Almost got your voice back.
I lost it again today.
I got two fit aids for this show.
It's been a long day.
It's been a long, long day.
Doing daddy shit.
long day doing daddy shit uh 28 minutes and 37 seconds i don't watch these beforehand beforehand but i've never gotten so many texts about a uh about a tdc weekend review this is
gonna be wild brandon lecoq by the way thank Thank you Brandon Smith smart money. How are you not? How is anyone not a CEO member do it? I
Can't wait to hear your reaction. Yeah, my DMS. I've already gotten 20 DMS and probably got 20 text messages
It's gonna be tough because I don't want to
Conflate I don't want to conflate.
I don't want to conflate issues.
I want to stay true to the point the entire time.
I almost feel like making a preemptive strike before I even see the Dave's Weekend Review.
It's amazing the courage it takes to stand up for people who are part of a class where
that class is being demanded to play victim, right?
So whatever class you're in, you knowy cripple blackie just whatever jewy
packy pally espanoli there's this demand somewhere always each class each group each demographic for
whatever your shit is there's someone out there demanding you play the victim and the real courage and the people who really give a
fuck and they're the only ones are a hillbilly i don't know any i don't know very much hill i
don't know about the hillbilly my victim mindset but every every group um there's someone out there
demanding you play the victim there's some narrative and then there's fucking bad motherfuckers like me who are like, hey, I'll stand up for those people because I got a little means.
I can cover my mortgage every month.
It's like, okay, I'm not afraid to be canceled.
I'll do the real courageous part.
I'll give a place for black people who don't want to play the victim to just be themselves.
Just believe in themselves.
I'll give a place for fucking dwarfs to be themselves and not play the victim where you can just hang out.
And just be you.
Just chill.
No one's demanding you play the victim.
I'll give a place for Jews to not have to hate.
I'll give a place for Palestinians not to have to hate. I'll give a place for Palestinians not to have to hate.
Yeah, CMO, bad motherfucker.
Thank you.
That's the courage.
The courage is the fat people who stand up during the COVID and be like, hey, yo, it's us.
Old motherfuckers would be like, yo, it's us, who would stand up instead of play the victim.
I don't think you can be in here for this show.
I don't know. Yeah, you can, but, but I can't put your mic on. Okay. I love you. You, how,
how was jujitsu kicked ass? Oh, you did. All right. You have a live audience today.
All right.
You got a live audience today.
Okay.
Anyway, that's just a little preemptive strike.
The gay community doesn't want the P attached to the LGB.
LGB doesn't want the, the LGB community that doesn't want the TQP attached to it.
Like, this is a place for you. this is this is not a place for uh
pedos though sorry like i got my limits this is a place for trannies totally fine uh love love
trannies um porn stars priests all of them but i do have my limits i'm not perfect sorry christians atheists all you
motherfuckers love you guys okay but if you demand if you demand if you demand people play the victim
then i and you're gonna like make claims of your personal own psychosis is feeling sorry for
yourself someone cuts you off
and they think they did it to you. I used to think when I was a little kid, people didn't
respect me because I was a little kid. Anyone who wants to play that victim role, I like you,
but we're going to tussle. I'm going to call it out how it is. I don't think it's a big deal.
I don't think it's a big deal that Greg Glassman says he doesn't mourn the death of George Floyd.
I do think it's a big deal if you say, I don't hire people.
I hire people based on their skin color, genitalia, and then preference of genitalia they'd like on their face.
But I still don't dislike you, but we're going to have words.
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dave castro we can review june 24th oh it's summer started right june 21st of summer uh
2024 we can review athlete interview series
uh rogan peds and crossfit nutrition crossfit documentary
hillar hillar with one l what a douche canoe come on dave
we can review june 24th i i lowered my mic so that Dave's will be louder,
so you guys can turn up your TVs or computers or whatever you need to.
Let's rock and roll.
2024, I am trying this new StreamYard setup
that I'm using for these interviews I'm doing with the athletes.
So that's why I'm looking around to see the time.
I don't see where my time is on this to see how long I go.
Listen,
I'm putting up the phone number two for this one.
Let's make this a,
just a straight fucking party.
Where's,
where's,
where's the phone numbers,
banners.
Okay,
here we go.
Anyway,
let's dive into it before I get into comments, a couple of points.
So I started this new series where I'm going to interview, I'm going to try to interview all the
athletes, all 80 of them prior to the games. And it's going to be from five to 10 minutes long.
And the point of this, especially the last, since probably 17 and on, maybe 18, after 18, 19 and on,
I feel like I really have been disconnected from, and don't really know a lot of
the athletes, especially last year when I went to the games, like I didn't know any of them. And I'm
also, uh, not really, um, following on social media or, or, um, engage like that. So I figured,
well, I might as well try to just briefly get to know some of the athletes and, um,
why not record it and then put it out as i'm surprised
dave hasn't mentioned this before there used to be a series i don't know when it was but dave did
it and i did it and it was called like the three minute interview or something now it could have
been like back in 2010 or 11 12 13 14 something like there so he he did him and i dabbled in a
show like that before it was like called the three minute
interview or something a little video so this will give me an opportunity to touch base with
talk to each athlete and most again most i don't know a few i know if you know i know really well
like brooke and um so it'll be a fun and even with brooke i learned something new so it'll be a fun
little drill fun little exercise and some cool content for the community.
So one down, 79 to go.
I have a number of other ones set up.
So I'll start cranking those out. And to be honest, throughout a day, I'm going to end up having to put out multiple clips of different athletes as I interview them.
Again, and the point is really short, five to ten minutes long to the point.
Specifically going to ask a lot about their crossfit experience benchmarks i
want to i'm interested in knowing some of their benchmarks and what their thoughts are on the
games for where we're at with the process and and what we've announced other i don't know if it was
only the brook episode or somewhere else when i heard dave talking about this he seemed a little
like shy and like shoulders in when he talked about it and hands in front of him kind of like
a little insecure about it and now like you can tell already he got the brook one out it's doing great it's approaching 10 000 views he feels confident
so that's good he's uh he's leveling up and he's got his game face on as you saw last week we
announced um as you might have seen we announced the uh are the athletes uh required to do this
to go to the games i don't know don't know, James, but they should be.
But they should be.
If they want to go the professional route,
if they want to professionalize themselves,
that would be something that they would have probably in a contract
or if they want to do their part to level up the sport,
yeah, they should get on there with Dave.
level up the sport yeah they should get on there with dave the uh farrington field as an option for um or not as an option as a friday night lights event
so basically from eight to ten we're going to have events out there and farrington field seats
18 000 people our stadium what we sold for dickies is around 9 000000. So the Farrington Field events team and individual is open to anyone. So
it's, we're not going to ticket it. Anyone can show up. The 9,000 people who have tickets for
the Coliseum, you will probably with no issue have a seat in the other venue. Because I've seen some
comments where people are asking if they have specific seating over in the other venue. It
seats 18,000 people again. So there will be no issue with seating.
I do not really see a scenario
where 10,000 other people come
just to check out that event.
If it did, I mean, that'd be pretty cool.
But every time we've done stuff like this,
we've had free events,
you know, at most it's a couple thousand.
But maybe here in Texas
with the strong affiliate network,
we'll be able to rally and have more.
If you're in the area, you got to go to this.
It's free.
The games are not inexpensive.
But if you're in the area, you should definitely go to this.
You should bring your mom, your dad, your kids.
These events are awesome.
They're so family friendly.
The energy will be great.
I'm not sure if they'll do like a vendor village or anything there but um they're they're they're great and i
really do hope they sell all 18 000 or give away all 18 000 seats that'll be awesome it'll be great
for the athletes too the roar will be insane if that place does fill up it'll become the most
memorable moment and uh probably across the game's history outside of maybe a few things from carson
uh that being said i have engaged i am in full engagement with CrossFit now
and in communications about getting all access pass
so that I can go everywhere Dave goes
so that I can replicate the behind the scenes
like I did last year.
So another thing I want to talk about related to the games,
I saw that clip about Joe Rogan where he,
and apparently the guy from this event where they don't test anyone
or they allow everything.
We're talking about steroids or performance-enhancing drugs in the games.
And the guy, the guest, made a comment about, oh, well, 22 and before, they probably weren't
doing anything.
And Rogan made some insinuations or some comments about that we don't test.
But look, we've been testing from the second games on.
And in the second game, I'll tell you this big lesson learned i did read the comments from this video already before
watching the video i don't know if i read all of them but one of the comments in there is from
someone and it says hey someone came and tested my wife three days ago which is like pretty awesome
that was just ridiculous what they said on rogan me Me in this role and for me, you know, kind of heading this sport up for almost the last two
decades. In the second games, someone approached us and said they're willing to fund and test all
of the athletes that were there. Actually, it was the third games, not the second. It was the third
games. And it was the first year that we had actually qualifiers to get to the games. And so
we were committed to doing the testing and all about it. And so at the games, they tested all the athletes and one athlete, one athlete of all the athletes
that year failed the drug test. And this guy failed for like everything. Like he, he, he had
the masking agents for the stuff he failed for. And so like, it was a plethora of things that
he popped on. And, um, this time and time only, that was the third year of the games.
Because he was active duty military at the time, we decided to not publicize the results.
And then, you know, months later after that, so we didn't tell the world he failed.
We actually removed him, I think, from the leaderboard.
He didn't he didn't do too hot anyway, so I don't think it mattered.
But that was the only time we ever did anything like that.
And it was a huge lesson learned.
And basically, a few months later after that, I was like, we can never do that again.
Even active duty military or whatnot, we can't not publish the results.
I say that because it's insinuated often.
And we get accused of protecting athletes and or doing things like that where we don't tell the world the real test results.
After that, once we did start testing, over the years and once we had to fund it,
it's really expensive to test the entire field.
So pretty much consistent from back then.
We tested all the regional qualifiers and then a large number at the games.
And then throughout the season, we'd have off-season tests.
And it's interesting because someone sent me that clip that Hiller put out
where there's a froning line where he goes froning and Sherwood are talking
and froning said something like surprise test or random test.
What he meant there, and I think this has been misconstrued by a lot of people,
people think or it sounds like he's saying random as if he knew
it was coming that's not what he meant by that and that wasn't what he was talking about he meant
random as if he was randomly selected no no no he wasn't randomly selected his his time was random
when he got it but what i mean by that is of course rich had multiple random tests throughout
his competitive and fraser too, throughout their competitive.
When they were competing and being dominant,
we had a list of people.
We said,
test those guys and test them randomly.
So they didn't know when the testers were coming,
but they were definitely because of their success and because of how well they
were doing.
They were targeted and tested in the offseason at much higher...
Completely fucking normal. If you're gonna
test people, you have to have a fucking list
of people you're gonna test.
So you have a tester,
and I'm like, hey, these are the people
you're gonna test. And you're gonna test
Tia Toomey,
who's the guy at the top for the guys,
Jeffrey Adler, Roman Krennikoff,
Ariel Lowen,lex kazan, um
Uh, who's some other good dudes justin madaris like you're gonna like here's the list and we're gonna test those people
Makes complete fucking sense. I I don't even I don't even get it
I
Think that anyone could even ask greg this dave this anyone at crossfit this
in my tenure there at crossfit i weaved in and out of more departments or i was as knowledgeable
about as anyone ever was about in in the breadth of what was going on at HQ.
I was close friends with a lot of people.
And I never,
ever heard anything about anyone being gone after for vindictiveness or for letting someone cheat or letting someone get away with the test.
Dave was absolutely very clear
that he didn't care who popped or didn't pop.
It's so weird to hear this discussion
because I know the scene so intimately.
And yeah, anyone who thinks that's fucking crazy.
Intervals and everyone else.
So that wasn't.
There was no one ever attached to HQ who were like, oh, my God, you brought in so much money for us.
Some people would argue that Rich helped grow the sport, but there was no one ever that it was like, man, that person's our shining star.
And like we have to protect them and we need to raise.
There was never anything like that.
Never.
Never, ever, ever.
That wasn't an accident. And it wasn't
random. It wasn't as if he had any advanced knowledge that he was going to be tested that
day. As a matter of fact, it was probably harder on Rich. If you were to ask Rich, Hey, did they
go easy? And you know, I not probably, I know he would say that. And so would Matt that they got,
they got, they got less, less preferential treatment, but the fact that he was being
tested, that part was totally set up. And so of course, I mean, we got less, less preferential treatment, but the fact that he was being tested,
that part was totally set up. And so of course, I mean, we have to pick a number of people.
And so throughout the years, there was a list of, you know, several to over a dozen people
that were getting tested. And, and yeah, you know, like you could guess who we were testing
people like Dan Bailey and people who had a lot of, um, who were really good. And there were also
a lot of questions and they were all coming back clean. And here's the other thing I'll tell you. And a lot of people close to me and a lot of
people in the, um, in the sport know this. I would love to catch any of them. I don't fucking care.
Like, I'm not like, Oh, we need to protect rich Froning or, Oh, we need to protect Matt Frazier.
Oh, we need to protect Tia. No, no, no, no. Like if, if, if they're cheating and we have an
opportunity to catch them, I would love for us to, uh, to catch them. And, and, and that,
I didn't want to say that,
but that's the message Dave would give us consistently
throughout the year.
That's what you would hear from him to everyone,
internally, externally.
He was always open.
I'd love to catch someone.
So, and also now, so we use Drug Free Sport for our testing.
It's now also who the UFC uses.
So I'm pretty sure the UFC uses. They left theirs,
and now I'm pretty sure they use Drug Free Sport. But we also, it's a third party. So we're not the
ones who are looking at the results and or taking the samples and then analyzing them. We have a
third party who does it for us. And we tested every qualifier at semifinals. And we'll test
a large number of the, we'll test all the podium at the games
and then down the field a little.
So we take it very seriously.
And we have since the earliest days.
And that story I told you about 2009
was a huge lesson learned
and a huge mistake on our part, on my part.
And I mean, like, again,
this was the infancy of the sport.
And the reason was noble in intent.
We were trying to protect this guy
from getting in trouble with the military.
But after the fact, I regretted it.
I didn't think for the sake of the sport and the future of the sport,
we couldn't do that again.
All right, enough on that.
The guy was really cool who popped.
And we made videos with him at Camp Pendleton.
Pendleton? Pendleton. And he was a Cross him at Camp Pendleton. Pendleton? Pendleton?
And he was a CrossFitter through and through.
And I don't have a problem protecting the dude in the military.
Kick him out of the sport. Give him the ban.
There's no reason to fuck his job at wherever the fuck he is.
So there was one other thing I wanted to say about...
Hold on.
Okay. I'm going gonna jump into comments now
it's not it's not that CrossFit doesn't test it's that it's subpar if you make
semi-finals you need to be entered into a year-round pool like the UFC does if
you leave the pool or fail a test a lifetime ban you you don't get a
lifetime ban in the UFC John's Jones I can't remember if it was John Jones or someone was supposed to get a two-year ban and it ended up only being
one.
They do
do year-round tests. That's what he just said
that they did.
There's people who
never even made it to the semifinals.
There was some lady who never made it out of
the open who was tested one year.
I don't know. i hear you mark mark mark
queen yeah queen yeah but i don't agree and so remember the comments i have not looked at them
and they're sorted from uh i'm going top to bottom and they're sorted by top comments so
they become top comments by getting thumbs up.
Peter Shaw, good friend.
At Peter Shaw 4, always fires me up to hear your enthusiasm for the games, Dave.
Thanks.
I've commented something similar in the past, but jumping in on the convo again.
I qualified for the games in 2020 and on a team in 2022, so I can attest to the amount of training that it takes to get there.
Certainly conducive to burnout.
Towards the end, as I age, I would consistently take one month off completely from training. My last year is less for the body and more for the mind. I didn't want
anything to do with it. Currently following a combination of CAP, Proven, and my own stuff.
One workout per day with intensity, just as you described, is the way to sustainably train for
the rest of your life for most people. Heck, many times nowadays, I'm only spending 30 to 40 minutes
max in the garage. I do the same. If you want to get more bang for your buck, I always encourage people to make changes in the kitchen instead of adding volume
to training. Most are blown away with how fit they can get with one workout per day when they
follow something like the zone diet. Second place to tell them to look is in the intensity. Can you
go 1% harder in your workout? Do that before adding volume and you will reap the benefits.
It takes enormous psychological capacity to go harder compared to simply walking through more
volume. Have a great day. Great comment, Peter. Thank you. Thank you for supporting and validating some of the points I was talking about.
And you hit something that it's funny because actually when I finished this last week,
I walked away and went, damn, I didn't talk about one of the most important pieces.
In all of this, nutrition is like the most important piece in results and or intensity,
or you not feeling like you're making progress. So oftentimes people look at
programming and say, oh, I'm not making the results I need, or I'm not making the progress I need with
my body or with my times or loads. So I need to switch programmers or I need to chase the flavor
of the day in that world. And really a good coach and a good trainer will actually look at someone's
diet first. That's the first place. If you're not seeing the results you need or want, that's the first place you need to look at is nutrition
and then tighten nutrition up. And then you can start looking at the other things. Thanks a lot.
At Austin Fairbanks. Greg would stand up in front of crowds all the time and be like, Hey man,
I know you guys see me as the fitness guy and I want to tell you fitness is the magic bullet,
but the truth is it's nutrition.
Nutrition, nutrition, nutrition, nutrition.
If you could only keep one fitness or nutrition, you keep nutrition every day, 10 out of 10 times.
I really like what Marcus Philly is doing, but also love CrossFit.
At Mitch Collins 5840, Dave, your counsel about the risks of movement is medicine or spot on.
This is conceptually similar to the issue CF has had fighting off nutritionists. Yeah. So it ultimately can lead to a negative legislation. So pay attention to that at X ropey six, four. It's funny. All of them. Do you guys get that? That's from last week.
There's this, uh, under the guise of exercises medicine, you have to be careful
because usually behind organizations like that, it's a big pharma, big food.
And,
uh,
what they're basically trying to do is put legislation and licensure around
exercise so they can control that too.
And they,
they want to try to claim that you can exercise away a bad diet.
You cannot,
uh,
Darren Coughlin,
the most important aspect of testing process is proper intelligence
of potential testing targets.
Oh, okay.
There you go.
I think that kind of
coincides with what Dave is saying. We make the list.
Bullshit Dave has to deal
with. It's funny how anything a person
will do can be found to be insulting by another human job.
Human. Good job, Dave, and always pay attention to that.
Let's listen to this very quickly, and we'll bring this comment up later on today.
Xropey64, it's funny all the bullshit Dave has to deal with. It's funny how anything a person
will do can be found to be insulting by another human job. Human. Good job, Dave, and always
smiling. People can always find what you're saying as insulting.
Thank you. At Simone Simon, eyes 5277. Hi, Dave. Thanks for the weekly updates. I really enjoy your interaction with our community. A few weeks back, you challenged Andrew Hiller to make a video
with all the positive things he's done for CrossFit. Did you manage to watch his video,
and what was your impression of it? Also, how's your journey reading the Bible progressing?
Finished with the Bible. Really enjoyed it. I don't think I'm ready to talk about it.
I just don't think, or I want to.
Let me say something about that.
I think, especially when people get platforms like this, I think they feel like they have
to spew everything out about their personal lives, about their journeys.
And, and Hey, there's a lot of stuff that I'm going to keep to myself and I don't want
to share with the world or don't feel comfortable.
That is one of them, but I highly recommend it.
I'm also, yeah, you don't feel comfortable. You don't feel comfortable. That is one of them, but I highly recommend it. I'm also- Yeah, you don't feel comfortable.
You don't feel comfortable.
Watching The Chosen right now.
That's really good.
If you haven't seen the series,
The Chosen, check it out.
It was nice to,
someone recommended that
once I told him I was reading the Bible.
Nice to watch after having read the Bible.
I don't know.
Did he make one about being positive
or about the positive things?
I did not watch it.
I'll get to the rest in a second.
Andrew did make a video of the positive things.
And one of the things that he said in there was,
he pointed out it was a list of 10 things he's done positive or 13.
And one of them is how many times he stood up to fight off outside interests or
outside forces that try to uh interfere with the crossfit ecosystem and beat them down
and he gave some examples
and i thought that was very very poignant at whitney dav 1344, with keeping the athlete's safety in mind,
why did you not all make them come down the rope to a certain line before jumping off?
Love these weekend reviews. Keep it up. You can't wait for the games.
At least they cut the rope to avoid feet, ankle injuries.
That one we've gone back and forth on,
and the speed at which they're descending down the rope is so hard to judge
and make the call with they're above the line or they're both
below the line.
So that's a tough one.
Could have,
did not in this environment.
And that being said,
I don't know if there was the amount of injury injuries for that movement to
were pretty,
I think I heard someone might've had it.
One person might've got injured in Europe coming down from the rope,
but there's some level of self-preservation in all of this that the athletes
need to take accountability for.
Those of you who are worried about injury shit and like saying it's like paramount like
if you're you don't know what the word paramount means if you think safety is paramount then you
would never even do crossfit you would never do anything you would fucking get up in the morning
and just stay perfectly still still you wouldn't even use a fork or a knife.
It's fucking idiocy.
And just put things in context.
CrossFit is not safe or dangerous unless you put it in context.
Put it to the injuries that have occurred in Olympic trials around the world.
Heat stroke in Mecca.
Deaths in Mecca.
Injuries in Pop Warner football in mecca injuries in pop warner football injuries in running
you injury people are twats there's some things yeah to learn from like cutting the rope there's
no point in having the excess rope down there it's not needed it's not a part of the game
but the point is it's about speed and intensity
and let them come down the fucking
rope as fast as they want.
And again, so sliding, coming down the rope
quickly, under enough control
to not
break a leg or hurt something. One second.
One second.
Time for a Sibafit aid.
Versus something like a rebound box jump or event everyone will have to do it because for the speed um i view a little differently how about this for
the first event of the crossfit games a thousand burpees for time this is justin uh or just three
one i would watch every second thank you for all you do for the community and someone said uh one
time miko salo 2009 CrossFit Games champion,
told me he did 1,000 burpees for time.
I go, what about it?
He goes, that was just stupid.
It's stupid programming.
It's just dumb, dumb, dumb.
Mikko Salo.
Insanity.
And then Burn1808.
Hi, Dave.
Recently, U.S. Army revised its general physical fitness test,
the Army Combat Fitness Test, ACFT 4.0, to establish new combat readiness standards with scales based on gender and age.
Standards have been modified to promote and reflect what the Army terms holistic health domains and inclusivity.
Minimum requirements have been made more lenient.
Based on sex and age.
Gender's imagination made up shit.
It's based on sex and age.
Healthy 17 to 21-year-old males, presumably the fittest physical cohort can now
receive a passing grade by competing, completing a two mile run in 22 minutes or less, a three rep
max headlift of 140 pounds, 10 pushups, two minutes requirements of further scale based on
age and gender characteristics. Yeah, there's a lot. And then there's a lot of comments on this.
I'm going to move to the next one. Yeah, we're doing a lot of work with the army.
So here's the deal testing. And this is the beauty of CrossFit testing annually or once
every six months is an approach to poor levels of fitness and actually prioritizing and looking
at results on a weekly basis, or even on a daily basis, as we do in CrossFit is actually going to
give you more results and give
you more feedback to your protocol than once every year or once every six months. So that's the,
I think the ACFT is good in concept, but really all the services need to move away from like that
once every six months to a year. If you care about performance and improvement and seeing
performance improvement, you need to measure it on a daily and weekly basis. And the army,
the efforts we're doing with 3 ID and 18th airborne Corps in general
Donahue,
we are doing stuff where we're measuring on a daily and weekly basis and
seeing tremendous results from constantly varied function movements at high
intensity with.
Those headphones,
this guy's fucking wearing our headphones more specifically.
They're over the ear at headphones.
How do I know that?
Because I'm using my senses to see it.
I'm using my senses to see it.
I'm using my eyes and I'm making my own discernment based on my five senses.
Sex is the same way.
I see your cock dangling between your legs.
I see your chromosomes and I know you're a man.
I use it on my senses.
Gender is just that shit between your ears that you make up.
During Halloween, you're Batman.
During fucking, when you're on five hits of ecstasy,'re you you turn into a woman like i don't fucking know but uh i'm just telling you yeah
i i hear you bernie that's what they say in the army but they're fucking stupid
sex is something that's out here in the world that you use your sources your senses to make
discernment and the other shit gender is just imagination i don't have anything problem i don't have anything problem with gender but just use the fucking word right
fucktards that's what that that's what that's like one of the cornerstones of insanity not
knowing the difference between what your thoughts are and and what's going on in the outside fucking
world in reality anyway we'll get into that more later.
The soldiers.
Been loving these weekly videos and can't wait to order the EVO this Friday.
Thanks, Dave.
That's MikeB6530.
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I just threw a bunch of stuff on there, too.
I just made some new little keepers, cable keepers for your cords when you're traveling.
Some new key chains.
I made a couple little bookcases.
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I see.
Let's take our weekly perusing of the site.
We just finished our, my wife just, my wife asked me if I want to keep this can.
We just finished the big can at my house.
I want to keep it. I don just finished the big can at my house. I want to keep it.
I don't know what to do with it.
I was thinking about like filling it up with something and using it as like a gym equipment.
Excuse me.
Key chains, belts.
Where's the shirts?
Oh, look at this.
This is new.
A cord keeper.
Hand sewn notebook book sleeve.
You know,
I have one of these.
Wow.
I forgot.
I have one of these that he made me like probably,
I don't know,
10 years ago.
That's crazy.
Damn.
He's getting into it. All by uh dave no slave labor actually i don't know if
these patches are made by him for sure that is that is that is that is is there more stuff
where's the t-shirts oh view all products and he got a
he got a sewing room at his house
oh there's the shirts
oh someone was saying
that you can't pick a size but I think if you go to
once you add it to the cart you can pick a size
they're soft shirts I wear mine all the time
anyway Dave's got this sewing room
and I remember like before he turned it into a sewing room
It would just been sitting empty. It's like it's not attached to his house
And uh
He came to work one day and he had this fucking crazy. He lifted up his shirt and he had this crazy like
necrotic
Black thing on his back with a hole in it
And I go what happened dude and he goes i got
bit by a spider i think it fucked him up someone should ask him to tell the story i think he was
sick like for two weeks i think he had to be taken to the emergency room he got bit by some wicked
spider in there when he's cleaning it out probably like a a black brown brown recluse black recluse i don't know i don't know what color it is or what its
gender is or its sex at shannon schleifler 8602 hang on to your abilities use it or lose it
i am star appreciate your videos and insights that being said i believe the crossfit game
should allow crossfit games athletes compete as they seek to fit. Don't bump the stuff down. Go back to allowing the rebounds.
I don't agree.
At Michelle Fogarty, 65, 60, 55,
I found the vast improvements with MS system.
At Gomez Marion 1, what are your thoughts about women's sports?
Few people enjoy them, while female CrossFit competitions
are as exciting as male comps, sometimes even more.
Why do you think this is?
Oh, I like that question.
Yeah, let them rebound, Daveave don't be a dipshit and um i don't know what ms systems is but uh oh andrew hiller hi my dear friend andrew hiller mason you only know that because you watch it uh what it
may say dan maybe uh too smart to watch that i don't even know what you're talking about. Okay. Um, what's Mason's beef with
Hiller? Do they have a beef? Okay. Anyway. Uh, the question is, is why are other women's sports,
uh, lame and CrossFit school? Um, what, what, what are the women's sports that aren't lame?
CrossFit school.
What are the women's sports that aren't lame? Gymnastics.
And by lame, I don't mean
lame for them to play. They're all cool for
them to play, but just that no one
wants to watch them do it.
Women's fighting.
Women's UFC is crazy.
It's at such a high
level. Oh, women's tennis is dope.
Yep. Women's tennis is fucking wild
uh you know what else is wild is wheelchair tennis
i watched that the other day just on accident it's fucking nuts they allow two bounces um
basketball is lame
i'm not interested in women's football
softball
not so much
but the truth is I don't
I haven't given any of them the chance
yeah two bounces it's wild
oh track and field
yeah track and field is cool
okay maybe it's a misnomer to say that women's sports are lame
maybe I have to strike that from the record
which ones are better than men's sports
gymnastics is eat definitely as good women's track and field is crazy probably as good
as good all right here we go and we'll hear Dave's answer what what why is women's oh that's a tough freeze frame I put Dave on why is women's a CrossFit
just I mean it's just as good if not better I think I agree and I love women
competition especially in our sport and I think we've been not I don't say ater, but we've been a very, we've led from the beginning with paying equal amounts to both genders at our level.
What I mean by that is we're not saying, you know, men get more than the women.
And since the beginning of the CrossFit Games, we've been that way.
So, and I think our sport, you know, the women have a.
Yeah.
And so what?
So what? I mean, cool. I mean, I'm not saying like, so so what? So what?
I mean, cool.
I mean, I'm not saying like, so what today?
But yeah, of course.
Of course.
Visual appeal?
Why are Trump's always Trump's head lawyers women?
Do you think he hires them because they're women?
Or do you think he hires them because they're good?
Do you think he hires them because they're women?
Or do you think he hires them because they're good?
The men do too, but the women have a visual appeal that makes it compelling.
Now we're talking. And I think our sport, the women have a visual appeal.
The men do too, but more than the women.
Since the beginning of the CrossFit Games, we've been that way.
And I think our sport, the women have a visual appeal.
The men do too, but the women have a visual appeal
that makes it compelling for people to watch.
That's why I think it can be so popular.
Let me just explain that so it doesn't get written off
as like a T&A comment.
It is, I guess, apparently less common
to see a woman's DNA expressed in its full form
when they train like with the ultimate training system,
GPP, General Physical Prep general physical preparedness training system which is
crossfit with the greatest nutrition program and then you see their dna express itself in all its
glory with the huge asses and the fucking shoulders and just in the one turns out like
alex kazan and you're just like my fucking And then, so there's that piece that like, maybe it's, we're just, we're not as used to it.
Cause you've seen a bunch of,
you've seen a ton of fucking monkey head,
gym rat guys already doing that.
And so, yeah.
Maybe that's what he means.
It's just, it's just exciting to see
a woman in all her form, all her glory.
Kind of like a pregnant woman.
Can't take your eyes off.
A healthy pregnant woman is crazy to look at.
Dave Ton.
In that respect,
same with animals too.
Pregnant female animals are crazy too.
All of them, you're kind of like,
what am i looking
at how are they doing that uh dave taun uh although although i have a hummingbird in my yard
that's sitting on eggs and even like hummingbirds like i don't they're not uh they're impressive
but not not in the fact not when they're pregnant so hummingbirds an outlier okay uh trump dave taun
trump hires women because he likes to look at them.
B he feels more in control of women than men because he feels,
uh,
they talk back less.
Oh,
geez.
Are you projecting Dave?
Dave,
are you projecting?
Uh,
Trump recognizes that hot women just immediately command attention dave talk to me dave are you projecting
hot women work harder i don't know if that's true
in ours and what the women are doing in fitness,
more common now for people to see than it was in our early days,
in the early days of CrossFit and women doing this stuff for a lot of people
was foreign. And so it was really impressive.
Now this stuff's becoming more common.
So it's not as, as much of a wow that the women are doing some of these things,
but, but yeah, I think it's a, I love it.
And I love the women's side of the competition for us.
We're exposing the potential of what female athletes can do and inspiring some of these things. But yeah, I think it's, I love it. And I love the women's side of the competition for us.
We're exposing the potential of what female athletes can do
and inspiring women
and young women and others to...
Shut the fuck up.
I watched...
God damn it, Dave.
Listen,
the women in this sport inspire men and women equally.
The women in this sport, I bet you the women in this sport actually inspire the men more than they inspire the fucking women.
The whole, the whole, everyone and their mom, regardless of what they have dangling or not dangling between their legs, saw nasty girls and was like, shit, I want to do that.
And so I doubt Dave meant it like that, but like, let's not go back to 2006.
Those of us who are around women, like good, strong, healthy women, it's like there's no difference.
We don't look at them like no one's like, oh, my God, you did this because you're a woman.
Oh, my God, you did so great.
You have Down syndrome.
Oh, my God, you did so good for a guy who only has one leg.
Like, shut the fuck up.
I expect all the women to be fucking great.
I hear you, Dave.
I love the women in this sport.
Good.
All right.
You asked why Trump hires them.
But do you love the women in this sport yeah good all right you asked why trump hires them but do you love the women in this sport dave because um uh you you you feel more in control of those women and they talk back less
is that why you like them dave women in this sport
dave talk to me davey uh sc fitness i agree with you yeah once again there's there's this kind of like this demand
i'm telling you the other day my son is like my son heard that fucking
um that female skater sky brown started doing the man woman thing
and my son's seven years old he'd never heard that shit before
and it's like all of a sudden he's like what do you mean there's women's sports and men's sports
Like where'd you hear that? He's like sky brown told me that they're gonna go play men's sports and then and then she yelled girl power
It's like yeah, good job. That's what i'm talking about
That is demanding people to play the victim
Under the guise of trying to help them
Just go play the victim under the guise of trying to help them just go play the sport
you want a ribbon
because you're playing fucking baseball
instead of softball
the first one
I'm okay with
the first one I'm okay with
Carolyn Lambre first black coach
of a female black coach of a CrossFit Games athlete cool then that's it I'm okay with, Carolyn Lambre, first black coach of a female black coach of a CrossFit Games athlete. Cool. Then that's it. I'm done. One. You get one.
To do a methodology like this to get results like that.
All right, let me see.
And of course, they're examples. It's redundant. We're all examples for each other. That's all we are is examples for each other.
Dallas Cannon, I'll die on this hill.
The more attractive women work harder.
Oh, shut your pie hole.
You think more attractive women fuck better?
I bet you that's not true.
And what good is an attractive woman that doesn't make sweet love?
Good, sweet love good sweet love
It's like a lamborghini without an engine
Okay back what were we doing? Oh dave castro we can review almost got almost got sidetracked here we go, uh, you know, that's true
You know apples and oranges fine. I know but I took it there
Just saying
I'm programming question. Hey Dave. Enjoy the weekly videos and getting some insight from you directly keep keep them up
This is a specific specific programming question. It's quite long
But if you don't have a chance to hold me the whole section to love to get your thoughts
I don't see it. I think he's mad. I think he might be fucking with me. You mean me me me me me me
Okay, that's it last thing I want to cover is two things I heard Andrew said killer
Keep talking about attractive women and sporty Beth is gonna make another video about you watch out. Yeah, you know, it's funny
I was thinking about that the actually today
Isn't it amazing that sporty beth made an entire video about me as the most toxic man in crossfit
Just ass pounding me
I didn't even know who she was. I never even heard of her
And just fucking destroys me in this fucking video,
manipulating the audio and the clips.
And then later on,
I ran across her on Instagram and she was saying some delusional shit.
And I said,
sporty Beth,
we need to have a baseline.
And that baseline is I have a big nose and you're fat.
We have to agree on some aspects of reality.
Can we agree on that?
And then she ran and Wooley ran and tattled to Don that I said that.
And then Don writes a four-page letter to CrossFit Inc.
to the employees there, letting them know that I'm coming to the games,
but I don't work for CrossFit and they don't condone what I'm saying or some shit.
And it's like, you should have written that letter defending me.
Saying, guys, don't worry.
We stand by Sevan.
He loves women.
He loves trannies and he loves dwarves.
And she totally took that shit out of context.
It shouldn't be.
But that wouldn't be the popular thing to do.
That would have taken courage.
I'm not the one fucking hating on her.
I think she's got great tits and I don't even care that she's fat.
I'm just telling you what my senses are seeing.
Oh, shit.
What happened to Dave?
Okay, here we go. This is going to be good. Let me rewind this. Here we go. Here's the part I'm terrified of. Listen, I saw Philip Kelly make a post somewhere. as the show i think or used to and he made a comment and he said how come we haven't been talking about this all along referencing annette hiring people not based on merit but based on the
color of their skin um and uh why has this been hidden are people just trying to get media access
yeah motherfucker i've been telling you that the whole fucking time
of course it's a fucking delicate game I'm not lying to you
But yeah I'm trying to fucking
Bob and weave and fucking
Surf the fucking political
Fucking landscape here
And yet keep it real
Yeah of course
If you know that they fucking hate you because of the fucking color of your skin
or that they they're not inclusive and they fucking ax anyone who doesn't think like them
then you got it but you want to fucking play ball then you're you're you're trying to figure that
shit out now i'm not saying you got to sell out by the way all the people that do end up selling out, Greg Howard, don't forget they eat their own, dude.
At the end, they eat their own.
Always remember that.
That's not the winning team.
It's a cancer.
They die.
They eat themselves.
They implode.
All right, Here we go.
Here we go.
I really want to film at the games this year.
I really want to do behind the scenes.
I'm so good at it.
I'm so fucking good at it.
I really love hanging with the athletes.
I like glorifying CrossFit.
I made those L1 videos.
I love supporting the affiliates.
That's all real.
I was thinking on the movie that we're making last year,
and someone told me that he made this statement
that we're using affiliate money to fund the documentary, the games documentary. And then we're, um, and then it's
not even being released till after the games. And he's super critical of that. So there is not a
single amount of affiliate money that is being used to fund the documentary, the documentary.
We're not even funding. We partnered with the relationship we have through WME IMG. They linked
this up with a documentary company, David Check.
They self-funded.
We gave them the access.
They could then take that documentary and sell it and or find a partner to distribute it on.
And once it starts making and then they make their money back on the production that they funded, then everyone, as it's more successful, them and us included, can make some money off of it.
But we didn't fund it, one. And we didn't fund it with affiliate off of it but we didn't fund it one and
we didn't fund it with affiliate money for sure because we didn't fund it so if we didn't fund it
there's no affiliate money that funded it okay a crash uh um uh correction on andrew hiller's video
uh crossfit did not fund the documentary and it was not paid for by crossfit they used a third
party who wanted to partner and take the upfront cost of it.
And then, and that's fine.
So Andrew made an error there.
But I think it was a safe assumption.
He was wrong.
Thank you for the correction.
And in years past, CrossFit has always paid for the documentaries as far as I know. And so I think it was a fair assumption the other 18 or 17 years he would have been right.
So detail corrected.
Thank you.
Thank you.
The thing about so that's like just a number of things where I feel like I'm hearing Andrew saying things without having any knowledge to what he's saying.
And so what I'm cautious, what I'm going to,
I really don't want my friends to fight.
Caution the community and people who listen to him is um understand he's not speaking as an
authority and he's also usually not correct with a lot of his um uh that's not true
that's not true would usually be less than 51 of the time
that's not true i think andrew's correct 51% of the time.
Caleb, make a poll.
Oh, Caleb's not here.
Info, and there's been a number of other things on that one I did a few weeks ago where I pointed out a handful, like the Greg and Nicole thing that we're trying to make.
So the problem is people hear this shit and people think it's true.
Hear it.
He'll say it.
And then question it.
Ask, well, where's his source? Does he really have knowledge or does he really know what he's saying or is he'll say it and then question it ask well where's his source does he
really have does he really have knowledge or does he really know what he's saying or is he just
trying to stir shit and then the second thing i'll talk about there's something else i want to say
about andrew he doesn't make stuff up and you don't quote me on this but he always requires
more than one source so he never run you You only think Andrew's right 48% of the time.
Dude, I think it's like 89% of the time.
I'll go with 84.
I want to flip that.
I think, and he said he's usually wrong.
Dave did, which would make it 49%. And I think it's more like 49, 94%.
I think, wait, yeah, 94%. Wait. Yeah, 94%.
Yeah, outspeak him then.
Well, that would require media.
You think he's right 69% of the time.
88.7% of the time for sure.
90.2.
Is 50% plus or minus the approval line?
That's a split decision in fighting Mr. Mitchell.
50-50.
That's what medical journals are batting about right now.
50-50 if the studies are correct.
That's true.
85% clock.
But I don't think that's true what Dave said usually.
Okay.
Where were we?
Back over here.
Hear it.
He'll say it.
And then question it.
Ask, well, where...
Oh, so the Andrew I know always has at least two sources.
So here's something, and then he'll make sure he gets another source,
and then he'll make sure to the best of his ability that those two sources didn't get it from the same spot,
so it's just an echo chamber.
Where's his source?
Does he really have knowledge, or does he really know what he's saying, or is he just trying to stir shit?
Oh, and the clickbait thing.
So Andrew always says he does shit for clicks and views.
And then Don said in the interview today that people do stuff to be contentious or stir the pot.
And they do that for views and that's how they make their money on YouTube.
And that couldn't be more inaccurate about me, like crazy inaccurate about me, uh, like crazy inaccurate about me,
like crazy, crazy, crazy. As a matter of fact, my team makes fun of me that I do UFC shows or
non CrossFit shows, or that I do shows that cause they just, they see how low my views go.
And, uh, and they make fun of me. I don't do anything for views. I do exactly what I fucking
want to do. I do nothing for views. That being said, the paradox is if I didn't get any views, I would not do this.
Like if there were four of you watching right now, I'd be like, fuck this, I'm out.
But I also question Andrew.
I don't believe he does stuff for just clicks and views.
And he's been saying that a long time.
And today, I really started thinking that it's not
true, even though he says that. And I think he says that in a way because he doesn't want to
dive into the minutia and the psychology of what makes him tick. He rather, he's not like there in
his life. He'd rather just run because he has such a, he's tapped into such a source
of fuel for creativity. It's like what Mike Tyson said. Why would I go see a psychologist
to fix my anger, man, to fix my anger issues when it's the key to my success?
Because think what would, why would Andrew, if he had all of this talent,
why would he be in the CrossFit space?
Why isn't he just posting?
Why isn't he just reposting pictures of Danny Spiegel?
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it.
I think that that's just an easy way out. I think that's a justification that other people say about him or other people because they don't want to look at the issue.
I think that that's – the nuance there is that's a form of ad hominem. Instead of looking at the issue, you attack the person. So like my house, let's say I'm standing in front of my house and my house is on fire and my neighbor goes, your house is on fire. And I'm like, you're just saying that because you're a fireman and you want to put it out. But really, my fucking house is on fire. Bring Hiller on to defend himself? No, fuck that. This is my time
to beat Hiller's ass a little bit.
And it
really, it's a backhanded compliment.
Anyway, okay.
Here we go.
And then the second thing I'll talk about
is the stuff he did with Annette.
And I saw a comment.
Let me see if I could find this one.
Come through.
Hold on.
Oh, here we go.
One of your bosses made it clear CrossFit has racial quotas to place, ensure diversity.
Have you met the racial quotas for the games team?
What are your thoughts on the reality of CrossFit?
It's now a company that hires people based on the color of a person's skin.
So that's 100% coming from this Hiller piece,
which I did not watch.
So I don't know if-
That is true.
It's coming from that Hiller piece,
but it's coming from Annette's mouth.
He played a podcast of her.
It's coming from her mouth.
There's all sorts of videos of her on the internet.
I'm celebrating the fact
that her greatest achievement at Facebook
is diversity hires, that she's made it very clear. She's never spoke about merit hiring anywhere I've ever seen. It's very clear that skin color, sex, and sexual preference is a hierarchy before merit.
merit and the premise of this company and what this company is selling is personal accountability and personal responsibility and merit that's the stopwatch and if she's the people person and she's
in charge of the culture but that's not a core tenant of hers a core tenant of hers is to hire
based on color or to play victim that is not that is not at its foundation that is never what
we're doing here at crossfit and that's all that hillar was pointing out using her own words
he didn't i i i me personally i thought it was so tempered because there's words for people like her
there's words that involve concepts and theories for people like her and he didn't use
any of those words that would have been derogatory that would have been attacking her he did not do
that he used her own words she's not in compliance she's not she doesn't have continuity with the
core tenets of what the people here in this company or in this uh lifestyle protocol are about that's what he's pointing
out that's how i took it and how is it that when how is it that when da coon said something stupid
about i forget what he say across it crossfit's dangerous or he doesn't have his level one or
whatever the fuck he said he came out publicly and walked it back.
And maybe she is going to walk it back.
Maybe she's going to be like, you know what?
I'm tired of looking at the world like it's, I mean, any, every interview, she brings it up because she's a DEI person, right?
I'm tired of looking at the world and searching for people who don't like me because of my
skin color and my sex.
I'm going to, now that I'm with you guys,
I realize that there's a different way to look at the world.
Yeah, and you could flip the script on Don too and be like,
hey man, victimhood sells.
When Don says clickbait and blah, blah, blah,
you could so flip the script on him and be like, yo, Don, victimhood sells.
What Hiller's doing is like real courageous.
The most marginalized community in fucking the United States right now
are the people who are standing up against the people
who are demanding everyone else play victim.
That's fucking hard, man.
You have to be really fucking secure with
yourself to fucking do that
can't we all just get along we are the
world they are our children Jonathan Ortega, that's what happens when you get a free documentary
You don't have control of it or when it gets released
Also, it may not get any money
So it may never be released because platforms may not want it
Yeah, that's okay though
I don't even care about that
If they didn't even release it, I wouldn't care
Well said or whatever
And I did, I always
Dear Annette, Dawn, Jenna, Dave, Nicole, Dacoon if they didn't even release it i wouldn't care well said or whatever and i did i always uh dear
uh dear annette dawn jenna dave nicole the coons i always the the i glorified the athletes i
glorified crossfit i glorified dawn i gave you guys the final edit i made the l1 commercials
i made the uh um affiliate commercials um all I asked for is complete access like you gave
me last year. Let me go everywhere Dave goes. Not because Dave's the star of these pieces,
but just the underpinning of what is the CrossFit Games is the anchor to these behind the scenes.
It's what gives it a texture and depth. It's not just about the athletes.
Thank you. I say that with peace and love
all of these things like victimhood cells or clickbait or anytime anyone says something like
that or um uh on both sides whether you say victimhood cells or being aggressive or negative
cells like that's just justification to not look at yourself if it if it just ignore it then
like that's just justification to not look at yourself if it if it just ignore it then i ignored all that shit when i was at crossfit i never looked at reddit never listened to one
thing arm and hammer ever posted i was i was like fuck y'all i got my own shit to do
i don't give a fuck like never watched it
uh and alexander cle Clement, I completely agree.
I've been watching Andrew from the beginning.
He is in the most neutral of terms,
self-denying, self-defeating even.
Yeah.
Man, he's a lovely man.
It is...
But he puts himself out there.
But the guy doesn't... it's a, it's a, um, but, but he puts himself out there, but,
uh, uh,
the,
the guy doesn't,
the guy fucking accepts everybody.
Like if you're in his presence,
uh,
yeah,
he's cool as shit.
I'm telling you,
he rubbed me,
rubbed,
rubbed me down with fucking lotion and a butter knife on my skate ramp on a sunny day shirtless.
Facts. Hiller said that we have quotas but and i'd never even met him before he just came over uh seven giving him the hard hack toey right now i'm just saying having worked here again. So that's 100% coming from this Hiller piece, which I did not watch.
So I don't know if Hiller said that we have quotas, but having worked here now for over a year
with Annette, I will tell you, I've interviewed a lot of people. I've had to make a lot of hires.
I've had team members and seen other teams make a lot of hires and this notion.
So if Hiller's saying this, this guy said it, but he's wrong.
I don't know if Hiller's saying this, but this notion that we have quotas or there's
any pressure to hire anyone for any other reason than that, they're the best qualified
for the job is complete fucking bullshit.
Well, Hiller didn't say it and that guy didn't say it, Dave.
Annette said it
in many different podcasts she celebrated it
dude that's it it's okay you don't have to do like i get it so you don't do that okay cool
all right peace and love to you buddy good job good job not hiring chicks just because they're
hot or dudes because they're brown or i've seen a lot of lesbians hanging around you
good job i'm assuming they're all hired based on merit i really mean that
but she said it dude the month before she was hired on a podcast and then going back podcast
fucking five years she said it over and over and over it gets it's in every one of her podcasts
she somehow squeezes it in dude what do you want him to make a video on every podcast she's ever
done he's just going off of what she said, dude. That's it.
And just imagine you're part of this community. And then all of a sudden you got someone in here saying that shit.
Meanwhile, the shit's fucking everything's in tumult.
Is that a word tumult?
Like tumultuous.
Everything's in tumult.
And the person who's in charge of your culture is hiring not based on merit.
who's in charge of your culture is hiring not based on merit? I was in a meeting. Thank you.
Tumult is a word. Thank you, Bernie. I knew I knew I was really actually talking to you. I should have just said Bernie. I was in a meeting with the CEO that Greg hired to replace himself before
Dave was CEO. And I was in that meeting with Dave and Nicole and Bruce Edwards, head of training,
Dave was CEO. And I was in that meeting with Dave and Nicole and Bruce Edwards, head of training,
head of the games and chief operations officer and the new CEO. And he said, the new CEO said, I can hire people from New York city who are better than every single person who
works here at CrossFit for 20% less. And I stood up and fucking started yelling
I was fucking pissed
I think the first words out of my mouth I stood up and I'm like that's fucking bullshit
you can't find anyone anywhere on planet earth that's better than the people on my fucking team
you fucking asshole I didn't say that I was pissed on my fucking team. Fucking asshole.
I didn't say that.
I was pissed.
I think one of the reasons
I heard one of the reasons
I got fired
that in my file
when Rose bought the company
there was a note in there
that I called the HR lady
a cunt one time.
And I don't know if I did or didn't I don't and I don't even know if that's true
But I heard that but I will say this she was only one of two employees there
She would grab me and hug me and push her pelvis up against mine. It was weird. Did you I don't know I may have
I may have she was so fucking. She was so fucking inappropriate.
She was physically inappropriate.
She would leave me the craziest notes on my desk.
It's just like so inappropriate.
One time, I've never had a woman do this to me.
One time at a dinner right in front of my fucking wife.
She came up to me and she put her hands like here on my neck and rubbed them down my titties.
Now, listen, I didn't care that she left those notes or rubbed
my titties or pushed her pussy up against me but like in hindsight i'm like man i got tossed out
for fucking calling her a cunt no i didn't know i never cheated on my wife ever i don't even jerk off to anyone but my wife. That's true. Those are facts.
I do have big old titties.
They're not like droopy, but I got a fucking big, big meat sickles, pectorals.
We do not have any.
I have to do a lot of pushups.
Quotas where there's any pressure to hire anyone for any other reason than that they're the best qualified for the job.
By the way, that's not true.
That may be true now.
That wasn't true when Rosa was here.
There is significant evidence that when Rosa was here that they were openly hiring based on a color of skin and a sexual preference
and a matter of fact uh if they i don't know there's things that i know that i don't want
to open the door about but like there's fucking crazy shit that happened and crazy shit that
happened to me and crazy people who sued the company dei motherfuckers you hired who then you tried to get rid of and then sued
Isn't it ironic you hired someone based on some characteristic that falls under dei?
And then when you got rid of them, they sued you because they said they didn't feel welcome there because of that
That's what I mean. The woke eat their own
And I can tell you some crazy shit that if I can happen to me sooner or later, but not now. Probably not under this administration.
And everyone knows it.
Maybe he'll make a video on it.
It's complete fucking.
But Philip Kelly, I'm trying to be cool because I'm trying to get access to the games.
That's right.
You're right.
That's right.
That's right.
You're correct on that.
That's right.
Bullshit. games that's right you're right that's right that's right you're correct on that that's right bullshit we do not have any quotas to hire uh people of any color skin and there has been zero pressure to do any of that that i have seen at all throughout the company
i think he's telling the truth
but I think he's walking a fine line
so to your comment
to this dude who just said this you're fucking wrong
so don't try to spin that or perpetuate
if Hiller is saying that and if Hiller is putting that out
he's fucking wrong
what about Annette is she wrong
the person the chief people's officer
who's controlling your company's culture
and who all hires have to go through and who interviewed every employee when she first got there.
Masel Manos.
Is she wrong?
That's the thing, because because he hasn't watched the video, he doesn't have to actually address the real issue.
He just addressed address some fucking ding dong in the comments.
Hello. It's not about her color it's about the person
100%
100%
try to explain
that to them
them over there
Annette
I think it's
people don't come here people don't come to CrossFit to get at any level
at an executive level or at, um, all the way down the team to have people like Hiller, um, come at
them and attack them and, um, try to, um, you know, make them do whatever Hiller's trying to do.
People come here to actually try to contribute and to make CrossFit a better
place for the community, for the affiliates, for the company.
Fair enough. People don't come there to get attacked by Hiller. Cool.
Makes sense. People come to contribute. I hope so.
I hope so. Do you think people like working there, Dave?
If you were to ask people at a McDonald's, do you like working at McDonald's?
How many people do you think would say yes?
Like, would you rather be somewhere else or do you like your job?
I pay the same amount of money to do anything you want.
Would you rather be here or McDonald's?
And if we ask people at CrossFit HQ that, what would it be?
Would it be double McDonald's triple half
And
And it sucks to see people like Annette get attacked by someone like him
Because it's fair he works with her. Yeah, I think it sucks too if I were if I work with someone I
Think it sucks, too
It's but but he didn't
I don't it God it's such a weird thing
to say he attacked her man
if I
see you have cancer and I
point at it
and you're like
motherfucker you're attacking me
he's not
attacking her he sees her as not fitting suited
to fucking be there with the fucking
company with the with this with the beliefs in the in the momentum what the company's supposed
to be what he wants it to be and he used her own words unfair to them now there i could say there
could be you could take it to this another i can get attacked by someone who care unfair fair more
i think dave's just defending her because
he works with her.
To quote Hiller in the comments,
I don't blame Dave for defending her.
I don't.
One like him because
it's unfair to them.
I could say there could be
you could take it to
this place of, well, if you're going to get a job at CrossFit,
you should know that you're going to be in the crosshairs.
And I will say that's still not fair.
And that's still,
if,
if you,
if people like Hiller are going to drag,
it's not that you,
it's not that you work at CrossFit.
Don't get it twisted.
It's because you said something on a podcast repeatedly on many podcasts
that say you hire people based on their skin color and then hillar was already here
and and this person came into his purview and now he's commenting on it
man dude he's in the space it listen there's no difference between yes and no
i used to smoke cigarettes and someone come up to me and be like do you have an extra cigarette
and i would be like no and they would get pissed it's like motherfucker you asked me
you weren't ready for yes and no
you weren't ready for both answers why'd you ask me you set yourself up
he's here holding a magnifying glass looking at crossfit
and she walks in stage right
what what do you what what do you what do you want what do you want
he saw cancer what he what you want he saw a cancer
what he what he diagnoses as a cancer
i i i i don't think it's fair that like you're saying that people come here
to be attacked i i don't i don't i think you're spinning this a little my boy
my my essay my choro my chicano my chicanoito and i will say that's still not fair and that's still
if if you if people like hillar are going to drag people into the crosshairs that's unfair to people
she she he didn't drag her in dude people who want to work here and who want to contribute
and that's a great person.
I've worked with her for over a year.
She's been nothing but respectful and honest and worked with me with a high level of integrity and consistency.
And we've had epic discussions on a wide variety of things.
And we've challenged each other.
each other. And, but never again, to reiterate, never have I felt any pressure to do anything in a certain direction or to do anything that is not to support the company at its highest levels to
reach all of its goals. She's great to work with. You get along with her. You've had some great
discussions and you guys made some great media together. No, not that. And you guys, okay, cool.
So you like her, you enjoy working with her i value that i loved
working with you too i value that okay so you like working with her great uh fondall i don't
think sebi will be filming behind the scenes at dickies oh fuck really
all right well this show's over so i was disappointed in hillary that he did that
i'm disappointed in this realm of um hey i would love this i so a lot of these people don't sign
up for that or sign up for people to come at them i'm here for that fucking come at me i'd challenge
hillary or any of these other guys out there. Instead of coming at any of those individuals, I came back two, three years ago whenever I came back after being fired.
And I knew what I was signing up for.
I was signing up for it to get punched.
I was signing up for it to get attacked.
I know.
I've been doing this for almost two decades.
That's how it's been.
And I get a lot of support.
But that's how it's been for a very long time.
So I'm good.
You can come at me.
You can make fun of me.
You can talk shit about me.
You can say whatever you want about me. I'm fine. Here's here's what I want to know
Why is he why what does he feel obligated to stand up for her?
Does he think this is a good thing when I worked at crossfit in the beginning in the early years?
At some point and I think it was rob wolf put up a website and it was a fire davecastro.com
And it was trying to collect signatures to get Dave fired.
That's like some OG woke shit.
Right.
And so people like Dave have crazy thick skin.
We all love TDC.
I know.
We all have.
He has crazy thick skin.
I mean, the hatred has been real towards him.
has crazy thick skin i mean the hatred has been real towards him and now andrew makes a video showing one of her old podcasts i just don't i'm just tripping on i'm tripping why not just let it
go whatever like like does that really affect her go put my name in reddit
you can get a whole fucking dissertation
on how I'm a pedophile
she's a fucking grown ass adult
short to facebook she's probably rich as shit
I don't think it's right for that to be put on a lot of other people.
I don't think a lot of other people want to deal with that and,
or should deal with that.
So.
But then,
then don't do podcasts.
That's ain't the space for you.
And this ain't the space for you.
Especially.
There are some crazy crime for that to be put on a lot of other people i don't think a
lot of other people want to deal with that and or should deal with that so bring it bring it on me
um i'll deal with it i just ask if uh people could chill out on our team people could chill out on
just like doing this to people who have good
intentions and want to contribute to CrossFit and the community and advance
it forward.
And there's no.
Wasn't the podcast before her CrossFit position.
Yeah,
it was.
That's correct.
Trish.
The one that I think Hiller showed was like a month before she got hired.
So it was the one with the Coons.
He didn't work at CrossFit when he said what he
said either.
People could chill out on
just like doing this to
people who have good intentions and want
to contribute to CrossFit and the
community and advance it forward.
And there's no fucking hidden agenda or there's no like people trying to get one over on the
community.
And I don't think Hiller's contributing well now.
I mean, people have been telling me that for a long time.
And I've been saying, hey, there's a lot of what he does that is good.
And I like criticism. But then there's a lot where you're crossing that is good. And I like criticism,
but then there's a lot where you're crossing these lines and really just
fucking hammering individuals,
especially individuals that you don't even know that that's just not cool.
All right.
That was a long rant.
He can't,
Hillary can't make videos on everyone.
He knows he'd run out of fucking people.
This is just crazy talk.
Anyway.
Love you,
Dave.
Let's let's let him sign out recording.
So again,
I'm using the stream yard thing.
So this is the first time I think this was long.
Well,
I didn't see my timer.
So I think I went for 30 minutes.
All right.
See you next week.
All righty.
There's a comment down here That I want to address
And it's a listener of the podcast
And I've always liked her contribution to the podcast
Oh fuck I don't
Oh here it is
The Julie Jones
She says
Thank you for addressing the comments made about Annette by Hiller
I watched his video and felt like he took her words out of context.
No, go watch all her podcasts.
He also tried to negate her experience as a black woman.
I don't even know what that means.
Negate her experience as a black woman who's experienced racism.
She didn't even actually i think the story that i remember that she told is that she smiled and someone accused her of that being some
sort of black trait she was very vague about whatever it was but at the level that she
explained her story we've all been through crazy shit like really crazy shit I don't think I don't
I don't even think I don't even think Hiller is examining her as a black woman I don't Julie I
don't even know why you're going there as a no one no one's addressing Annette as a black woman
that matter of fact like nobody she's being addressed as someone that
hires based on skin color.
Let's just call her a white supremacist.
Would that help? Let's pretend like we don't even know
what she looks like. No one's addressing
her as a black woman.
He tried to equate the racism
she said she experienced to his friend who is
fat as a white man.
No. He tried to equate the racism she said she experienced to his friend who is fat as a white man. No, it wasn't that.
He was saying that you can't judge a book by its cover.
That's what he was saying.
And that's what she's doing.
She was judging a book by its cover.
That's what he was saying.
He purposely took it out of the uh the the color realm
he's not he's not he's not arguing about anyone's experience or anything like that
if i'm walking towards you down the street and you cross the street and i think it's because i'm
a scary looking armenian. That's my experience.
Yeah, you, you, I, I, I'd like you, Julie, but you're like, you've added some story to this. That's, that's not the story you're,
you're reading into it. You're bringing some of your story into it.
You're in it. You are negating Hiller's experience description.
I don't think he meant this, but as by the way, this is a very tempered, beautiful post,'s experience description. I don't think he meant this but by the way
This is a very tempered beautiful post by the way
I don't think I don't think I he meant this but his assessment of her came off as a bit racist
Dude, julie. I beg of you
You are the one who's bringing color to this
That's the thing
a bit racist there's a bit too much of diminishing people's lives
experiences from a very small but loud
contingent I'm looking at Sevan too
in the sea of space
there's a bit too much of diminishing
people's lives
here's the thing man and maybe you're right there And the sea of space, there's a bit too much of diminishing people's lives.
Here's the thing, man.
And maybe you're right there.
Maybe I am diminishing people's life experiences.
Because when you finally get over your own story, you're free.
And no matter how true your story is to you, when you can get over your own fucking narrative,
and you can say to yourself,
who would I be without this story?
You're free,
and sitting there open arms is just happiness,
ready to fondle your balls.
So you got to get over your own story,
but there's no component of this story that involves color other than what annette said
and if her story is that she experienced racism and so therefore she's going to pay it back to
the towards black people and she's going to pay it back toward to by not hiring white people or
she's going to hire more black people okay that's all hillar's saying but we don't even know what the fuck her story is
she didn't even say it we have to take her on her word that she wasn't um given a promotion
because uh she was black i wasn't i was told i wasn't going to get a promotion because i came to
work barefoot once. Facts.
Okay.
But I don't want to diminish.
I'm not trying to diminish your life experience.
I'm creating a space where it's just okay.
It's just okay.
Like just let it go.
It's okay.
It's fine. Except for the pedos. It's okay. It's okay It's fine except for the pedos
It's okay
It's okay, it's okay that you're short it's okay you're tall it's okay you're black it's okay you got a tooth missing
It's okay if you stutter like just come here
Let us let us let us let us let us work with what you got playa
Um that make it feel comfortable for marginalized folks in the space There you go again marginalized folks in the space
Man listen
The most marginalized person walking
In the United States today
Is a black man who doesn't want to play the victim anymore
Just imagine that
Imagine not towing the line for your people
And be like I don't want to do that game
Imagine how marginalizedary is for speaking
up what fucking i guarantee you more than 51 of the people at fucking crossfit hq are thinking
they're thinking what what what exactly what hillary thinks
imagine how marginalized that makes him feel but he just rolls with it imagine how that makes all
the people who work there feel just imagine working there knowing that the fucking one of
the top executives who's controlling the culture of the company has a uh i get a a hierarchy and
your skin color puts you at the bottom of it.
Anyway, I like seeing you in the comments, Julie.
I appreciate your comment.
You're always welcome here.
But we make fun and we take things lightly because we don't want the stories to carry weight. We don't want stories and narratives to bog people down. We want people just to feel free from their shit
That's the premise
Maybe maybe touch a little glimpse of where we came from and where we're going
All right, guys, love you dave. Thanks for the weekend review. I heard dave has a video out with uh, justin
Madaris, I got two big shows tomorrow, man
I know you fuckers aren't going to watch this one tomorrow morning either but the great
Devin Lorette's coming on what a
stud he was a
what is it Bernie what was Devin he was
a JTF JT JT
he was whatever
highest level special forces you
could be in Canada he's
you know maybe the second best arm wrestler
whoever walked the planet
I mean I guess you could say the best um a right and left-handed monster a jtf2 thank you dallas yeah that thing
uh so uh we'll see him tomorrow morning at 7 a.m he's a dear friend love the guy
and then um uh after that at 11 a.m i'm gonna go on with get with the programming
uh i don't think i've ever been on that show.
So I'm pretty excited.
I love myself some Bill and Chase.
Bill's so fun.
Chase is great.
And, um, then, uh, I have something else.
Oh, and then Dave's releasing all these videos and I haven't sure I have, I'm not sure if
I'm going to review all the athlete videos.
Anyway, thanks again, Dave, for doing what you're doing.
Thanks for being forward-facing.
Thanks for your leadership.
Thanks for being a good teammate to Annette.
That's cool of you.
Those of you who haven't seen the podcast that Pedro White did with Don Fogg over to Coffee Pods and Wads, it's a tremendous fucking interview.
I've said this before about Pedro. I could not have done what he did
so kudos
to him
no I'm done
I gotta I gotta get I gotta still try to
keep in the dream alive doing the
behind the scenes there's no way I'm reviewing that
anyway
Annette I hope you get through this.
I hope that you can set yourself free and,
and,
and,
and,
you know,
come,
come to the light and see the CrossFit way and drop some of these stories you
got.
And,
and,
and,
and just roll with it,
man.
It's like,
it's not a big deal that Hiller made a video and it,
if it'll make you feel better, go over and watch Sporty Beth's video,
The Most Toxic Man in CrossFit About Me.
That'll be fun for you.
All righty.
Love you guys.
See you tomorrow morning at 7 a.m.
Want to know what I'm going to go do right now?
It's really kind of gross.
I'm going to go watch the show.
Boys, for today, thanks for getting me through the show.
Love you guys.
Talk to you guys soon.
Bye-bye.