The Sevan Podcast - Russell Berger | Perception is Reality

Episode Date: September 28, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:08 Caleb what are you doing here? I mean let me rephrase that great to see you Uh, there's a hurricane that came our way and uh I don't think the the old shadow van could hold up to uh, 70 mile an hour winds. So I decided to move west for a couple days and then uh I'm not sure if I can chat a van could hold up to 70 mile an hour winds. So I decided to move west for a couple days and then to get out of it. So I got a couple days off. Wow. I'll tell you. I'll tell Russell Russell in the private chat.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Sorry, I'm still lingering on the fact that I I didn't the She's thick she's under 200, you know, um, 198 but Russell if you look in the private chat, you'll see Got it. He got he's doing he's at your old job. Okay, that's cool. Yeah Yeah, so he normally lives in a What we call the Shadokan and where is it, Oklahoma? Nebraska Nebraska. He bought a fixer-upper on two acres in Nebraska And now he's in Florida for nine months, you know fiddling around with fireworks and stuff That sounds fun
Starting point is 00:02:42 Fiddling around with fireworks and stuff That sounds fun Yeah, I'm imagining you in like a Volkswagen. What is it the West Folly air West failure? Yeah, it's a it's a little nicer than that. It's got we got a bathroom in a shower And I got a stove in an oven fridge. It's the real deal. Yeah Big server is generous. I Mean it's probably on its way to being demolished. How about that? The land is a fixer upper Hey, so so Caleb really quick. So is is is your normal daily duties?
Starting point is 00:03:19 Not is everyone is it a day off for everyone? Yeah, pretty much. They told us to like shelter in place, but everybody else lives in a hardened facility. They have a house. Yeah. So I told them I was gonna leave. I just went like two hours west and everybody, yeah. Did the entire RV park clear out?
Starting point is 00:03:43 No, no. No. Like there's probably It was probably about 6040 like there were some people leaving but there were quite a few people that stayed. I hope you left the GoPro there mounted The dude next to me, so I think that's how you spot the people who are really from Florida yes exactly the the the the the the
Starting point is 00:04:12 the the the the the the the the were calling Planet Fitness's and trying to understand their restroom policies. I think they were trying to understand their restroom policies at the time too.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I don't know if you know this but one of our mutual friends works there. Did you know that? I don't want to get that person in trouble. Do you know who it is? I Don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so. Okay, I'll have to tell you It's it's a pretty you're gonna fucking die. You're gonna die when you hear anyone you hear what their job is there. It's amazing Oh now Russell you were in the army. I was what did you do there again? What was your I? were in the army? I was. What did you do there again? What was your? I was in Ranger Battalion in the army. So the first battalion of the 75th Ranger Regiment in Savannah, Georgia, was stationed there for about four years. And and did you have a specific duty when
Starting point is 00:05:21 you were there? Like, do Rangers have different duties? Like there's a guy who's like walkie talkie and a guy who's medic and a guy who's did you have a specific duty when you were there like as do Rangers have different duties like there's a guy who's like walkie Talkie and a guy who's medic and a guy who's did you have a specific duty? Yeah, I was just a line guy So when I got out I was a fire team leader What does that mean I Was a door kicker guy with a gun had three other guys with me who had various responsibilities who were part of my team and we were two teams to a squad three squads to a platoon and Yeah, we run around in the dark and ball up bad guys
Starting point is 00:05:56 And when you say you're a door kicker meaning like you're one of the first guys to enter the building. Yeah Mostly what we did. I mean this was this was OIF and oh,EF so we yeah there was a lot of CQB door kicking kind of missions so what's OIF? Operation Iraqi Freedom and what's CQD? CQB uh close Quarters Battle. It's just, it's a term for the kind of tactics and strategies you use when you are inside of urban environments indoors within like 25 yards of your enemy. Okay, and so you were one of the first guys, if they were like, hey, there's a guy over here and we need to get him, you and your guys would go knock on the door and be like, Merry Christmas. Yeah. Yeah. We'd be, we were polite like that.
Starting point is 00:06:51 And did you do most of your missions at night or during the day? Virtually all of them at night. And as I remember, when I worked with you at CrossFit HQ, the rumor was, and I don't know if I ever talked to you about this, but that your job was an interrogator also. The rumor was and I don't know if I ever talked to you about this but that your job was an interrogator also Yeah, unofficially so the army actually has like an M.O.S for interrogator, but I was an unofficial interrogator about the time I don't know this would been 2006 2007 Ranger battalion got the bright idea to send guys to language immersion courses
Starting point is 00:07:26 so that we can have more fluent sort of language proficient guys embedded in the line. So you'd have reaching teams and assaulting teams go in and they'd clear a building and finally once the building was clear, you'd get the Iraqi interpreter who was a contractor for the army to come in there and start asking questions. There's a lot of time that went by in between those two events. And so we we started sending guys to immersion schools where they would learn like become basically fluent in either Pashto or Arabic. And that way you had people in the building while it's being cleared, who can recognize what's being said. So I did that. And did you, you went, so you went to an immersion school and did you learn posh to or Arabic?
Starting point is 00:08:11 Iraqi dialect Arabic. Wow. No shit. Hey, and you're on the East coast now? Yeah. I'm in North Alabama. Okay. Oh, okay. You're still there. And you're homeschooling your kids. Not anymore. They're old now. How old are they? My daughter's 16. Yeah, that's crazy. Huh? My son's 14. Our just turned 16. She's full time in college now. Wow. She's been going to college when she was 15. So how did that happen?
Starting point is 00:08:48 Tell me about, so you're homeschooling her and I would see your homeschool videos, catch squirrel, disembowel, eat. And then how does that transfer to college? Cause people always ask me, are my kids gonna go to college? I'm like, shit, I have no idea. Cause I'm homeschooling my kids.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yeah, I've always told my kids you know college is optional and you typically don't want to go there unless you know why you're going there and you have a means to pay for it when you're done which rules out about 90% of the degrees you could get so yeah yeah that's right. So yeah, she was she was doing homeschooling. And then at 15, there's a program here where you can do dual enrollment in your local colleges. And so as a high school, I think I don't I don't keep track of like freshmen, sophomore, junior, we've never really done grades, but she's 15. And she figures this out and enrolls herself. And just brings me the papers I'm supposed to sign. And so she gets enrolled in the local college here and starts taking classes and
Starting point is 00:09:55 dual enrollment is supposed to function for like kids in in high school. So you take one class and then you go back to your high school well, she just took all their classes and so she's got a full course load, which means when she Completes these courses they don't they not only count towards her graduating high school with her the Alabama state requirements for her credits to graduate But when she's done, she's also got like her freshman year or sophomore year knocked out for college So she's in high school and college at the same time. Yeah, I mean, technically she hasn't graduated high school. She will, I think, at the end of this semester. So at 16, she'll be done.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I don't even know this. How do homeschool kids graduate high school? Do they take the GED? Yeah, I think so. You gotta submit all of the credits and your transcript to the government so they can put their stamp of approval on it. And then I think you take the GED.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I'm not really sure. It counts as an official high school graduation. It's a little different than somebody who dropped out and took their GED later. Hey, so theoretically your daughter could just... She could never graduate from high school and graduate from college. No, I think I don't think they'd let her because you got to she's technically like dual enrollment status at the college. But I wonder if you took all the credits for a degree for a college I don't remember my college ever asking
Starting point is 00:11:18 for my high school diploma I mean maybe they had it in the back end or something. I think when you apply but I mean I like where you're thinking. I'd like to just delete public schools, so. Hey, have you looked into that? Have you looked into the Department of Education? Oh yeah. It's crazy, right? Oh no, I haven't read their Wikipedia page. I know something of the history of it.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Yeah, anything that you, enough to talk about? I read the all I know is I read the wiki page and it was crazy. Like they basically don't do anything. It's basically a whipping. It's a I after reading their wiki page, I'm like, oh, this is just $83 billion. Because the federal government is not supposed to be involved in state education. But this is just their money that they use to some to figure out how to manipulate the states to do it Oh, it's that's not for any value. Yeah, it's a carrot and a stick Yeah, it's crazy Public schools were started by I believe his name is John Dewey
Starting point is 00:12:18 in his philosophy of education and he was a He was a profoundly religious guy and religious in the worst sense of the word. He was a secular humanist who despised Christianity and wanted children taught from a young age to also despise Christianity. The whole institution was designed not to actually really educate in the classical sense, but to make workers who were fit for sort of menial factory labor jobs who would think the way that John Dewey wanted them to think. And so it's been a bit of a mess from the beginning. And that's not conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:12:57 He was open about that. Yeah, I'm sure you could go. Look at that. There it is. Institute of World Politics, the Tragedy of American Education, the Role of John Dewey. So right there, there's a quote. His aim was secularization of the United States,
Starting point is 00:13:18 starting with our children. The process of secularization rises not from the loss of faith, but from the loss of social interest in the world of faith. It begins the moment men feel that religion is irrelevant to the common way of life, and the society as such has nothing to do with truths of faith. Yeah, that's one of the – so John Dewey's aspirations in establishing public school system is one of his aims. Hey, when because I think a lot of people when they hear, oh, Trump wants to abolish the Department of Education, they panic, right? Because they don't have they're afraid of change and they think it's going to be
Starting point is 00:13:56 like some sort of like gutting of the American intellect when really it's just an obstacle growth. Yeah, your kids can't read right now. You shouldn't be afraid of dismantling that system. Right, right. That's wild, isn't it? Yeah, I like reading. Do you ever read any, what's her name?
Starting point is 00:14:21 Laura Ingalls Wild? No. Farmer Boy, Little House on the Prairie. Oh, maybe when I was a kid, yes, yes. Those are good homeschool books, you gotta get those. The picture of community school that she paints in those books, pre-institutionalized public education,
Starting point is 00:14:40 it's a community school. You get an itinerant teacher who comes and stays for a few years and lives with different families and the community pulls their resources to Pam and it's a one one room schoolhouse with kids up to senior year all the way down to the little ones learning to read and It is was profoundly effective In 79 or 81 Carter started the Department of Education, like officially started it, it was just like a little, it was just, it just kind of moved
Starting point is 00:15:10 around in different departments for a while. It was just a handful of people, but in 1980 became its own department. From that day on, American test scores just dropped and haven't stopped dropping. But sadly, they just need more money. Yeah, isn't that crazy? Isn't it just like so obvious? Like, hey, you put this in and then everything went to shit. It would be like, if it would be like on, you introduced one Oreo to your diet every day for a month.
Starting point is 00:15:38 And then the next, and then you started putting on weight. So the next month you added two Oreos. Oh shit. I need more Oreos. More Oreos. You can play this game with all kinds of departments in the government. Look at the CDC. Let's turn back from when the CDC was established to now. How many chronic medications, pharmaceuticals per person are being taken in the US? I'm almost certain that numbers doubled maybe tripled since then.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I think I was probably like 38 years old or 39. I can't remember and I was filming a movie in Kenya and I just finished and I got on a plane and I was flying back to the United States and I was listening to the radio. I was probably listening to NPR back then and they said how much money they said how much money the what the What the US how much money the US spent just on sleeping pills every year And then I looked at the GDP of Kenya And the United States it that and you know, this is 20 years ago But or 15 years ago, but the GDP of Kenya was less than the amount of money the US just spent on sleeping pills That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Yeah, it's fucking, it's absolutely bonkers. Did you take any medication? No. Did you take any vitamins? Uh, no. I'm trying to think. I keep some supplements around for if I feel like I'm getting sick. I'll take like a quercetin or there's a couple others I can't remember the names of. It's it. I don't take anything. You don't you don't you know I'm a vitamin C. I swear
Starting point is 00:17:10 by vitamin C. If I've been kind of running ragged and not taking care of myself I'll take a multivitamin but I don't take one regularly. Yeah me neither but like the other day I got I flew to Boston when I got off the plane that next day and my throat was sore the next day. I just took like 2000 milligrams of vitamin C every three hours for the entire day. I don't know if it does anything, but I swear by it. You probably peed out about 1500 milligrams of it. Hashtag faith. Just eat an onion
Starting point is 00:17:52 Hey what stories are you following any stories in the news now are you following the Diddy story at all? Oh, yeah a little bit Go ahead. I'm not a subject matter expert on it. I've seen that I've seen some of it Yeah, I want to I want to show you this video That I saw diddy the other day now I knew You know, he's from the Bay Area, right? And I knew he with this thespian of sorts You know what? I mean, he was in the plot. He was in high school drama and plays and shit Oh, wow. I have to do the Google Chrome is requesting a to bypass the system. Okay Bypass the system of private window. Okay allow for one month fine, whatever And then he was in that group a digital underground that was kind of an artsy fartsy rap group
Starting point is 00:18:37 I don't know if you remember them Yeah, they had a they had Humpty Humpty guy with who'd wear the glasses and the giant nose. I remember him, yeah. Okay, so this is an early interview of Tupac. Here we go. This is Tupac. It's like my mom because I'm arrogant, totally arrogant. I agree, I have to say it. Like it worked, I can't hold the job.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I just quit my job today actually, because I wanted to come and do this. And they wouldn would let me. And I felt like it was important and it was more important than serving pizza. I felt like since I'm an actor, they should understand. They should have let me do it, but they didn't. And then I had a cold. So they were making me work in a freezer. And I'm really not one to be disrespected. And I felt like that was disrespectful because I asked to go, you know. So I quit. And he told me I couldn't quit.
Starting point is 00:19:26 And that even made me hyper. I'm arrogant. So when he told me I couldn't quit and we had all these customers, I chose that time to jump on a soap box, grab my leather jacket, light a cigarette in front of them, smoke and leave. And we clash a lot because I'm arrogant. She's arrogant. And you should see us when we get in our little attitude moves. Because I'm arrogant, she's arrogant, and you should see us when we get in our little attitude moves.
Starting point is 00:19:47 It's a lot of hand movements, okay? It's a lot of hand movements, and it kind of says that gangster rap was created. It never had anything to do with black culture. It was a bunch of homosexual men and given personas turned into celebrities and told to make dark demonic music with the express purpose of destroying the black community. And that has been a tremendous
Starting point is 00:20:11 success. That's just a lot of hand movements for a gangster rapper. This is to first of all, do you follow Candice Owen very closely? No, I don't particularly care for her Do you think she's gone off the deep end? I Wouldn't know cuz I don't follow her very closely. Okay. All right. All right But you talk was gay though, right? That's gay. I mean I Yeah subject matter Know that I'm'm qualified to detect it from hand gestures and voice inflection,
Starting point is 00:20:49 but sure sounds that way to me. But what does that tell you? What's that? I said your gaydar wasn't going crazy. Yeah, it's off the charts. Here's what I think that tells us. The music industry is fake and they'll prop people up just to make money. I think we already know that right? I guess but I guess I forget a lot
Starting point is 00:21:12 Yeah, I mean Taylor Swift songs does she actually write like a musical genius. I Just watched a documentary documentary on her they said she was just obsessed with writing music as a kid. I don't know about her current hits. Yeah, I mean, my kids were obsessed with writing music too. It was all nonsense. It didn't sound good. But like, if I got one of my kids, let's say I had a kid who was reasonably talented and
Starting point is 00:21:40 attractive and I found some producer in Nashville that thought he could make my child into the next billionaire music star. They're not, they're going to build that person up and supply them with everything. The mannerisms, the voice, the personality, the songs to sing, it's just a it's a product. I guess I just I'm not too surprised by that. I don't think that's a new thing. I think they were doing that back in Tupac state, too So just it's just a complete image that's Fabricated in order to sell like like like your can right there like there It's designed just like the outside of your kids is
Starting point is 00:22:16 This is a product that I'm embarrassed to be drinking but it is delicious and it's a really cool can it makes you want It's a cool can and I'll pay for it. I mean a lot of people I think pay for just because it's a cool can yeah and what's inside it's just it's just flavored water I wonder if that's the case with all musicians you know I mean is Bruce Springsteen like that too no I think like you're not gonna tell me that Biggie Smalls was secretly a gay, thespian. No, okay, so you think he, but P Diddy was. I don't know anything about P Diddy.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Ha ha ha ha ha. Are you following that? Which is what a lot of people are saying these days. Oh my God, it's absolutely nuts. I just watched the documentary on Taylor Swift with her and it's called a bad blood. Okay. It's about her and her manager agent Scooter Braun. Some people are frustrated because I called them her agent but it's really her manager or something. To
Starting point is 00:23:21 me, it doesn't it doesn't matter. They're interchange. I think I heard about this maybe from your show. Yeah you got to see this documentary it's wild. It's absolutely wild. Did you get vaccinated Russell? Oh absolutely not. Did you think about it even for a second? No. Yeah I mean nobody in my family did yeah, aren't you glad? I'm more glad every day Yeah, what's it like in Alabama? What's the? What's the like you walk around and there's people there wearing masks? Yeah, I mean that you always got a couple of them if you go to the Whole Foods
Starting point is 00:24:00 You'll find that the people who watch a little too much in SMBC are still wearing their masks. Yeah, they're they're mostly they're mostly black and they're kind of Concentrated in geographic areas that you'd expect people who are more progressive to be That's interesting because in my area it's mostly Mexicans who are wearing it well, it's Mexicans and older like hippie types Yeah, yeah same same group It's people who I think just bought that hook line and sinker and and can't stop Yeah, I always trip on on the fact that when I say Mexicans
Starting point is 00:24:34 I mean like real like people who don't speak English, right? Yeah, and I'm guessing they get that information from Their local like a clinic, you know what I mean? Like their local free hospital has scared the shit out of them. And there's doctors. I don't know. I think. Yeah, I don't know where it comes from. I mean, at this point, it's almost like a.
Starting point is 00:24:57 It's like a family tradition, I think, for some of them. I just drove down from Los Angeles from the Bay Area to Los Angeles where I'm at now in the entire way I listened to National Public Radio and I've been starting to listen to it a lot lately and I realized that every single one of their stories is built on a giant Fabricated pre-supposition and so by that I mean the entire story will be about we we windmills Based on the precept that you have to accept that there's climate change It'll be entire story built around Donald Trump but the precept will be that he's racist and they never and they never and they never even they never established that
Starting point is 00:25:43 But then the whole story is built on that so you have to even before you can comprehend that story You have to like have accepted this premise and the Taylor Swift documentary was like that the entire documentary They're calling these her management misogynists and the entire music industry misogynist But they never defined misogynist other than if you have a penis music industry misogynist, but they never define misogynist other than if you have a penis. Like they're not like these men gathered together and they're purposely taking advantage of women or we have video recordings of these women saying women are stupid. None of that. Yes, it's a if you listen to stuff like that, thinking you're listening to journalism, that's your first mistake. Right. So a real journalist would acknowledge
Starting point is 00:26:26 the existence of a controversy, especially with something like climate change. But if your job is, your goal is not to do journalism, but is to create a sort of artificial consensus that allows people to hear your article and walk away thinking, oh, you'd have to be insane to disagree with this. There is no controversy. Everyone believes this.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Well, that's their goal. That's what a lot of media is, I think. I don't even think the journalists know. I think they find people who are already bought in and will just run with it. Yeah, like you can't even get a job there unless you already believe that Trump is a Nazi and that we're 12 years away from the end of the planet. Yeah, I think that's right. Thank you, John Dewey. Yeah, he's definitely a contributing character to how we got here Hey when you put your kids through there's a ton of people out there like when I when I see that um people still have
Starting point is 00:27:35 Their kids in school like you see all the crazy shit going on in schools And I'm like how does anyone still send their kids to school like there's this lady who all she has an entire still send their kids to school. Like there's this lady who all, she has an entire Instagram account, she's a cool lady, and all she does is talk about how bad it is to give your kid devices. And then there'll be a part where she's like, oh my God, I checked my kid's iPad that the school gave him
Starting point is 00:27:56 and I found porn on it. And I'm thinking to myself, wait, your entire account is about not giving your kid devices and yet you send your kid to school and then so then other people will be like well I can't afford not to send my kid. I have to send my kid to school because I have to work How did you do it? Yeah, I mean the first thing it's worth noting if the public school is in in this lady's example Actively undermining what she's trying to do with her kids in this one particular area. Just think about all the other areas where they're doing that too. And yeah, the idea that you can't afford to take your kids out of the public schools and either,
Starting point is 00:28:39 I don't know, put them in a private school, which would be the most expensive option probably, or to homeschool them, which would be slightly less expensive. I just don't think that's true, ever. That's like when somebody says, I can't afford to have another kid. Yeah, you can. What you're saying is, I don't want to change my quality of life or my standards by saving money here or cutting expenses there. And so, I mean, you could do this with the public school example too. To say, I can't afford to homeschool my children
Starting point is 00:29:12 is really saying, I'm not willing to make changes to my standards of living in terms of having one of a married couple stop working and stay home to educate kids, that's more important to you is what you're saying. Now, sure, there's probably examples of like, okay, you're a single mom and you got to work and you can't educate your kids all day because that's your whatever you work in a clinic, you're a nurse and you got to go to work eight to five. I understand that But that's not most people who are saying I can't afford it It wasn't easy for you to homeschool your kids
Starting point is 00:29:57 No, it's no it didn't say it'd be easy It's just worth it Yes, things that are worth it aren't easy You wouldn't take it back. No. I mean, my kids are, and I'm not trying to like brag on myself, my kids are smart, and they're not maybe valedictorians, but they're smarter than their peers in a lot of areas that I think are critically important, and they're independent. Like I could send my kids out just into the world. Hey, go do errands, go,
Starting point is 00:30:32 go purchase things, go. Uh, I mean, my daughter, for example, enrolling herself in dual enrollment. I didn't even, I didn't need to even read a form. I just sent her out to do it. Um, most kids their age can't even buy something at a checkout because they don't know how to talk to people. And so they've got a lot of independence and a lot of wisdom and I have zero fears about sending my daughter into a local college. She comes back with just wild stories about purple haired transgender communists and she's having these great discussions with them and I know for a fact that she's been completely inoculated
Starting point is 00:31:07 to that brain rot by the education that we gave her. I mean, there's a vaccine that really works. She's, I don't have any fear of her coming back, calling herself a boy's name and turning her hair blue. Have you seen those videos recently where they have like 15, 16 year old kids try to schedule appointments for themselves? The phone? Oh, I bet it's amazing. They have their their mom or whoever is just like standing over them. And they're like, okay, dial the number. And then they're like, is
Starting point is 00:31:38 this the right number? And they're like, Yep. Okay. Then the phone like hesitating at the button. the of kids that she's made. So she just turned 16 in September. She's meeting kids at college who are 18, 19, and she assumes they're younger than her. And then she talks to him and finds out their age and she can't believe it. Because these are kids that like couldn't get a job, they couldn't go do a job interview without their mom sitting next to him. Just completely incompetent. Incompetent, lack any personality, won't read a book. I mean the stuff she tells me is wild. Just wild.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Hold on, I gotta find a... She like regularly sends me texts during the day because she knows I'll get a kick out of it. Hold on. She overhears these conversations. I gotta find one. Hey, you think your Starlink's all fucked up because of the weather Caleb No, I think I just have it in a bad spot I didn't take the time to like set it up on top of my RV like I normally do
Starting point is 00:32:54 So I just kind of laid it out on the on the ground outside. You don't have to worry about someone picking it up and stealing it Mmm, not really. I don't Most people have their star link like just laying out. They just put cones around it. People don't run it over. Hmm. It's like RV parks are like a crazy microcosm of like self governance and people just leave each other alone.
Starting point is 00:33:18 You're gonna be you're becoming an ex. Yeah, you're becoming an expert on RV parks. Yeah, it's pretty good. Standing ready, 100% COVID, they just spend their free time scrolling. Yeah, they're all on phones, staring at screens. They have very few real relationships that are just superficial internet relationships. They don't know how to talk to people Hey, if you were
Starting point is 00:33:49 I've told you this before Did you read this No, but I have that book after you told Greg about it He he bought like 50 copies and and I and I got one. Is it awesome? Yeah, it's great. A lot of overlap with what we're talking about right now. What's the name of it again for people who want to bad therapy by Abigail Shrier? Hey, it's so easy to do too, because I'll just go to like, I'll just like, like, like yesterday we went to a restaurant
Starting point is 00:34:26 right and you order up at the counter and All you have to do is tell your kids like hey if you want to eat you have to say hi order your food and then say thank you and one of my kids like Ordered ordered something. He wanted a burrito and a breakfast burrito, but the window had closed We were too we were too late past the time and then so He comes back over to me. He's like they don't have it and I said, okay, and then my other kids about to pay I'm like, hey dude
Starting point is 00:34:53 He's about to pay you better go over there and he's like starting to cry He's like but they any seven he's like, but they don't have it. I asked him and I'm like, well And then he runs over there and he ordered something else. He's like meatballs french fries I'm like, yeah, dude Like you better Anything to him, but you better fuck I don't even say you better figure it out But he knows like that window is not gonna get yeah with a real natural consequence Yep, my my son you're not gonna have any
Starting point is 00:35:21 My son spent the night with some friends yesterday real sweet family And I gave him 20 bucks because he was gonna go play mini golf and I wanted going to have any. My son spent the night with some friends yesterday, real sweet family. And I gave him 20 bucks because he was going to go play mini golf and I wanted him to have money. And so when I pick him up, he gets in the car and the mom, very sweet lady trying to be helpful hands me the money, the change. Yeah. And I said, What's this? Oh, this is the change. I was I was holding it for him because he was afraid he was going to lose it. And so I took the money and I gave it back to my son and said, what's this? He says, oh, this is the change. I was, I was holding it for him because he was afraid he was going to lose it. And so I took the money and I gave it back to my son and said, you hold this for 24 hours, if you lose it, you owe me money because he, he's, he's got to know how to keep stuff in his pockets and not lose it, or he's never going to
Starting point is 00:35:56 grow up. Right. And, uh, it's just little things like that, just setting expectations and pushing kids to be independent that are I mean this generation is growing up right now is just paralyzed by that stuff and their millennial parents are uh they're they're making this process a lot worse by the way they're parenting and just inserting fucking everywhere it's like I like I get it your kid's supposed to order at the restaurant the waiter or waitress is there and I know it's uncomfortable
Starting point is 00:36:26 Like it but you got to bite your tongue you got to just wait and just everyone's got it's you just got to accept the uncomfortableness into your kids like I'll have water, please And if they don't they don't get it. It's a super and it only takes once It only takes one one dinner where everyone gets food and your kid doesn't and he's trying. He won't let that happen again. That's going to create trauma and anxiety that will be with your kid and create lasting problems forever.
Starting point is 00:37:02 What I really notice is that the parents are not willing to do their job, which is uncomfortable, while you're waiting there at the counter for your kid to order or say please or thank you. But you just have to, that's your job as a parent to just sit through, take a deep breath and just sit through that uncomfortableness. And the rest of society is really tolerant, more tolerant than you would expect on waiting for kids to figure shit out. Yeah, I think at best it's just, it's some selfishness on the part of parents
Starting point is 00:37:28 who just, who just want to get it done. Right? Like my, I send my kid to order for themselves. I send my kid to go knock on the neighbor's door and ask for something. There's a good chance they're not going to do it right. They're going to, they're not going to come back with what they're supposed to come back with. I just want to get this over with.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I'm going to do it myself. I do think that's selfish because you're robbing your kid of real life with, I'm going to do it myself. I do think that's selfish because you're robbing your kid of real life experiences, it's going to give them independence and competence but I think at worst it's this sort of crippling fear and desire to protect your child from any unpleasant experience that robs them of any chance of becoming resilient as a person. This is why we have kids who are college-age kids that cannot be around words and speech that they find unpleasant. They need safe spaces.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Why? Because they have no coping skills. They've never learned resiliency. They've never learned to deal with things that are uncomfortable Process that and get over it You nailed it right there you're actually hurting your kids you're robbing them of experience the The example I've given over and over a thousand times on the show is When you have a two-year-old and you go for a walk with, and I would walk my kid a couple miles every day for like three years.
Starting point is 00:38:47 But in the beginning when you walk your child, let's say even at 18 month old, it could take two hours to go one mile. They're stopping, but in a mile, a child will fall 500 times. I counted one time. It's about 500 times. And so that's 500 burpees that the child gets
Starting point is 00:39:06 But if you go over and pick your child up You've now robbed your child of that opportunity to stand back up every single fucking time and you got stronger and your child got weaker And it's fucking crazy. It's like it's uh What are you doing? If you need if you want to get the exercise you do a burpee every time they fall down then But but that's your job is just to make sure they don't get hit by a car fucking uncle buck doesn't grab him and take Them into the house and diddle him or he doesn't fall on a on an ant if you live in Alabama It doesn't fall on a red ant hill besides that your job is to shut the fuck up and just chill Right, I mean you you nailed it rob them of your
Starting point is 00:39:49 Yeah, there's there's a place in parenting for I'm gonna pick you up and do this for you and that is that place Cannot exist in the same at the same space where you're gonna do this Alongside me. I'm gonna sort of model it for you. So there's like two modes of parenting. I'm going to do it for you versus you're going to do it beside me and I'm going to watch. And the I'm going to do this for you
Starting point is 00:40:15 is like all you do with an infant. And then as your child gets older, you sort of step aside and let them do it for themselves. And by the time they're a teenager, you're basically just their shadow Right out of this out of the picture watching them giving them guidance or counsel where they might need it But that that process of withdrawing from the role of I'm gonna do this for you It is a process and you have to do it consciously and intentionally and that's what a lot of parents aren't doing
Starting point is 00:40:47 Seve you don't know anything about fire ants. I was in fucking who knows where. I was in some Central American country and I was in a village, just a complete, like, you know, dirt roads and the homes are made out of just trees and shit. And I was kneeling down with my big camera and I need and then all of a sudden I felt like I was getting stung like a thousand times and I was covered I had squatted down on a anthill, anthill in the ground and I took right there, right there I put my I ran like 20 feet away and I took off all my clothes except my underwear and And the and the team I was with from America starts yelling at me like hey, that's totally inappropriate. You can't do that I was like fuck you You know what? I mean like you put my clothes back on Like are you out of your fucking man? I was just standing there in my underwear in this village like like anyone in that village cared about me standing in my underwear
Starting point is 00:41:44 Yeah, they got bigger problems. You jackasses. Hey, what book would you recommend for parents who, moms pregnant and they listen to the show and they're like, man, everyone's telling me I got to get vaccines for my kids. Oh, I should definitely get them at least the polio vaccine. Oh, oh, my, my parents were putting pressure on me to get the vaccines. People think I'm crazy. People who are being gas, letting to do it. Do you have any books you recommend? Uh, no. Okay. Yeah, sorry. I, uh, I really like, um,
Starting point is 00:42:16 I have one dissolving illusions, by the way, for anyone who's interested, let's get dissolving. Okay. But go ahead. I like, uh, RFK's book. It's extremely dense hard to get through What's it called? And yeah, I haven't read anything our FK's book You know which one I'm talking about the family. Yeah, the one on the weaponization. Yeah, no, not the falchie book It's it's basically the history of the bioweapons
Starting point is 00:42:43 state back on backs no I thought I had a copy in here I don't see it the enemy was on the real dr. Fauci I'm gonna look it up. Okay. How did you know not to do it? The Wuhan coverup. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's called the Wuhan program. How did you know not to do it?
Starting point is 00:43:17 Yeah. I don't you didn't you get your kids any vaccine? They had vaccines when they were born. Just sort of the normal, you know, up to like one, two years old vaccines. And pretty much none after that. So it started, here's where it started for me. HPV. Doctors started recommending my daughter get an HPV vaccine and this is actually after she my daughter had some pretty bad autoimmune disease and had to get treatment for it and She'd been in a wheelchair for about a year Her legs stopped working She had something that was close to Guillain-Barre
Starting point is 00:43:59 And so we go after she's been treated. She's she's better. I mean she had a complete cure. Praise God. She was doing great We go to the pediatrician. He's like up. She's scheduled for HPV. And so I asked what's HPV? Well, so it's a disease. It's not even really a disease. It's a virus and It's a virus that's not fatal. You don't even really know that you have it and you want to get a vaccinated for it because there's some bizarre semi Association between this virus and ovarian cancer, which right there, I'm like, OK, my BS detector is going off because it doesn't sound like real science. It sounds like p-value.
Starting point is 00:44:40 And it is. And then I said, well, how do you prevent getting this virus well you don't basically you don't go have sex with a bunch of people which my 14 15 year old daughter is not going to do that I mean I I know she's not and so I realized pretty quickly that I was getting pushed a product this was a product that I had no need for and most people probably had no need for. And I did a little research and saw it had some pretty significant side effects.
Starting point is 00:45:11 And it turns out girls in our immediate circle had already had some bad autoimmune problems from they thought getting this vaccine, dysautonomia, all kinds of stuff. And so, yeah, it just put this in my head. They're like, oh, we're being sold a bill of goods, and it's on the childhood vaccine schedule. So I need to probably look more carefully at all these vaccines. I, many years ago, had stopped getting the flu vaccine.
Starting point is 00:45:38 I saw no reason to get vaccinated for a disease that was not particularly deadly, at least not for my age group and health range. And so when it came time to do the whole COVID thing, really early on in COVID, you remember, Ionates, Stanford epidemiologist. So early on in COVID, I saw an article where he more or less, he got the Princess cruise data. So this was the cruise ship that had a COVID outbreak very early on in 2020. And he used that data to
Starting point is 00:46:11 calculate a mortality rate for COVID that was, you know, essentially less than 1%. As soon as I saw that, I knew I had really nothing to worry about. And that is about the time that the media exploded with fear mongering and doom and gloom and the model that came out of the UK that said we're all going to die. And I couldn't make sense of this. I mean it just seemed bizarre that your view on a virus would suddenly become so politicized and so polarized. And so very early on, I was suspicious of anything that was making claims related to COVID
Starting point is 00:46:50 and related to its deadliness, its virility, like any of that. And so when people started pushing this vaccine and saying, you got to get vaccinated, I just looked at the numbers and realized that I was in an age group where virtually no one was dying and my kids were certainly not at any risk because virtually no children were dying from COVID. The only person I was considering maybe having a vaccine for had been my wife who was immunocompromised.
Starting point is 00:47:15 But once I realized that this was not a traditional vaccine, saw the CDC literally change the definition of vaccine on their website in real time and not acknowledge that. I knew that we were dealing with another situation where we were getting pushed to product. And then, you know, why do you trust those authorities anyway? Well, you trust them if they have a track record of telling you the truth. And within a couple months of the COVID thing, I've been lied to by the government, I realized maybe six or seven times, and I didn't trust them anymore. And so yeah, I stayed as far away from the vaccine as I could. So my story
Starting point is 00:47:56 of this is not like, I listened to this scientist over here, I did my own research hits, it was mostly just the erosion of the credibility of those authorities who were telling me to vaccinate my family. They did it. And I just paid attention to what they were doing and stopped trusting them. Trainer Joe, it doesn't matter how many people you have sex with. It matters how many people the person you had sex with did just a heads up for the sexual health. Good point. Valid. Yeah get that but what's the what's the risk there? Oh, I got a virus And I got a virus that a bunch of non You know postmodern scientists have loosely correlated with cancer, which they don't understand either In in a non predictable way, they're they're claiming this is gonna prevent cancer. I just don't buy that
Starting point is 00:48:45 I don't think it's worth the risk Someone said This is my story too. I got the flu shot once in the last 30 years two weeks later. I got the flu Yeah, I've never had the flu before and when I got the one time I got the flu shot. I got the flu I mean, I thought I was gonna die Yeah, it was so fucking it was 24 hours of hell Hey, if you had to go back, would you not get your kid any vaccines? I thought I was going to die. It was so fucking, it was 24 hours of hell. Hey, if you had to go back, would you not get your kid any vaccines?
Starting point is 00:49:10 Oh yeah, I wouldn't. Nothing. Yeah, and that's, and that is, it's a result of the same process, right? Like I got my kids vaccines when they were, you know, 16 years ago. I didn't, I didn't trust everything the government and the health industry told me, but I thought in general, I've got good reason to believe that what
Starting point is 00:49:32 they say is true. I have good reasons to trust that medicine and these interventions like vaccines are tested and make sense, and that's just evaporated. For better or worse, I don't trust any of it anymore. And I don't blame anybody else who like me has just said, well, you've lied to me so thoroughly, I'm not gonna get any vaccine now because I can't trust that what you're saying is true.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Yeah, I don't know if you saw, there was an interview that Sean Ryan, I think we didn't get our kids any and I thought my wife was crazy and then I started doing the research myself, you know when when kovat happened I started reading books like dissolving illusions and the moth and the iron lung and I and I realized that the polio vaccine was the exact same scam that They ran with Covid just a complete other fucking scam and fear-mongering and they didn't have tv's then but they ran the death numbers on the front page every single day the same way cnn did and uh and
Starting point is 00:50:31 then you look at when the vaccine came out relative to when the disease went away and they don't yeah they don't cross and you're like wait a second that doesn't make any sense and and then of course first polio vaccine was pooled because it was it was giving more people back Polio than curing them and you just see what a fucking mess it was. Yeah Do you do you find talking to people who are on the fence? About vaccines. Do you find that that? Approach of talking about the history of vaccines and the biochemistry and the immune system. Do you find that that's persuasive for them? No but I...
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yeah. So my friends who got the COVID shot, I was talking to one of them recently, and I was like, hey, if the average age of death is 82 of death in this country, let's say, I don't know exactly what it is. And the average age of death, sorry, if the average age of death of COVID is 82 and the average age of death in this country without COVID is 80, and the average is four more comorbidities, and you're 40,
Starting point is 00:51:41 and you have no comorbidities. How did you get tricked? I like to ask them that question like what would be the I Mean with that much fear I would think that you would never leave your house like And and now in hindsight they see it right for some reason but at the time they didn't see it and They and they wish they wouldn't have got it. The biggest thing that I tell parents, because parents ask me, I get, I get once a week, someone will ask me, and this is what I say. I said, you can always get your kids the vaccine, any vaccine you want. But once you give your kid one, you permanently altered their immune system for the rest of their life.
Starting point is 00:52:19 And you can't go back. And because of that, people don't focus. It's like if I gave you Vicodin, and you had an adverse reaction to it, you could go back to your doctor and be like, Hey, this pain pill is making my stomach hurt. And they'll give you something else. They give you OxyContin or something, right? They'll keep switching out. With vaccines, when you get injured from it, they don't ever look at the vaccine as the issue because they can't take it back. Right? Once it's in you, you got it, you're done. And so and I just use things like that to explain like, hey, the door's always open to take them. What's the rush? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:52:51 So that's my biggest... Because the fear is so strong, I can't talk through their fear or the pressure that their mom and dad are putting on them, right? I mean, because people just think you're crazy if you don't do it. But also, I have a baseline group. Right? So I can go, I feel like I can go somewhere and I can be with 100 kids and I can be like, oh, those are the eight kids who didn't take the vaccine. Like I see subtle nuances in the way they move, the way their feet are, the way they just the way their eyes look.
Starting point is 00:53:21 They're a different breed, the baseline group that didn't get anything. So I don't know. And you know, I know that's anecdotal, but I think the hardest thing is people don't, I think the people get it because they get pressure from their parents. Can I get a sparkling water? It's impressive that you got your kids through homeschool. It's awesome because I got two seven-year-olds and a nine-year-old and I'm absolutely loving it and it's almost a misnomer to call it homeschool, right? I've started realizing like, because when I first started homeschooling them, I was like, okay, who are we going to get to teach them this? Who are we going to get to teach them that?
Starting point is 00:54:01 And then I realized, oh shit, I'm not, this isn't homeschool. This is just raising your kids. It would be so much better just to call it that yeah, because at first I thought Oh, I'm not smart enough to raise my ways Take take that statement and inverse it. So what should we call public schools? Right there. Yeah, that's about it. Yeah, they're raising your kids for you Yeah behind a government raising your kids for you. Yeah, the government's raising your kids. Yeah, no offense to school teachers, but it's some fat lady who's afraid of spiders
Starting point is 00:54:32 and can't climb over a chain link fence, teaching your kids to navigate the world based on her presuppositions that spiders are scary and chain link fences are meant to not be climbed over. And those are things I don't want my kids to be taught. You know what I mean? I don't want my kids to be taught. You know, I mean I don't want them to learn their limitations from a fat lady And
Starting point is 00:54:53 Another interesting thing is how hostile those kids are So I just got a text from one of the listeners here and they said hey I just pulled my daughter out of school and She told in she told me that that's the greatest after a year. She said, this is the greatest thing you ever did, did for me, mom. And she said, her daughter's complete mood has changed and she's happier. I sent that text to another screenshot of that text to another one of our friends who has a nine-year-old daughter.
Starting point is 00:55:19 I didn't tell you this yet, Haley. I sent that text to them. And she said that, um, the day before her nine year old daughter, she asked her nine year old daughter, Hey, what do you think about being pulled out of school? She's been pulled out for a year. And she goes, Mom, you saved my life. A nine year old girl told her that mom you saved my life. And it's because of the dick measuring contest that kids do with each other, right. And what's fascinating too, is that people will say, well, how do your kids get socialized? Well, when it's like what you said, when I'm in Home Depot and I need, I'll be like, Hey, can you go ask that guy where the tape measures are? So he goes over to the guy with the orange smock and says, excuse me, sir.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Can you tell me what aisle the tape measures are on? That's how my kid gets socialized. He had socialized the Jiu Jitsu class, right class, right? I mean most well socialized kids ever You know back to your comment about the the fat middle-aged white woman telling kids that they can't climb a fence I didn't mean to call her white you remember being sorry. She could be anything. Well, let's let's assume she's white. I think that's fair With purple. That's uh, I mean you know, right You remember being a kid and you play a game or climb a tree. I mean, maybe you maybe, you know, California, your, your upbringing was a little different, but I remember being a kid and I do something with my friends that just seemed so fun. Climbing a tree, throwing a rock.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Yeah. And some adult would come over and say, you can't do that, someone's gonna get hurt. And it would blow my mind like to think that, I mean, I know I'm in complete control. I know there's nothing that could injure me about, you know, this tree branch that's six feet off the ground. And I still see that happening with my kids and other kids where some well-intentioned mom or parent will come over and say, I don't know about this, guys. This looks dangerous. And what I realize is the computation of risk reward happening in the brain of an adult woman who hasn't done any physical activity in 40 years is so incapable of accurately
Starting point is 00:57:23 assessing risk that you end up with this sort of overprotectiveness because the mom or the woman who's doing this, and it could be a man too, they just don't know what they don't know, right? The kid climbs trees every day and the kid in his head is doing the risk assessment, he's doing the mental calculus and thinks, there's very little chance I'm going to fall and if I do I'll bounce, I'll be fine. But the 50-year-old woman that can't do a pull-up and hasn't done a pull-up since I don't know 1960 Is just incapable of doing that calculus. She has no reference points. And so
Starting point is 00:57:56 I don't remember where I was going with this, but it's all it's all projection I'm sort of thinking of parents who do bringing their fears to the moment My kids go barefoot everywhere and they only weigh 50 pounds or 60. We all do that, right? And people project onto them. Doesn't that hurt your feet? I'm like, dude, you're 250 pounds. The way the earth feels to you is nothing like the way the earth feels to my kids. Right. Like, and my point is not that we we shouldn't do that mental calculus and assess is what my kid doing okay. The point is if you don't do physical activity and you have no personal recent experience of interacting with physics, your calculus is going to be warped and you're going to
Starting point is 00:58:35 go off of what? What you see in the movies or what you see in TV or magazines. And so the local news tells you that every dog that's running around is going to maul and eat your kid. And so suddenly you're afraid of dogs. Now your kids are afraid of dogs, you know, just stuff like that Hey when it reminds me of Go ahead. Good. Good Go ahead. No, no you go ahead. I was gonna say it reminds me of when you watch Reminds me of when you watch TV programs movies Amazon whatever where the fight
Starting point is 00:59:05 scenes to the average person are amazing. But if you've ever actually done any fighting, like if you've done MMA or Jiu-Jitsu, you look at it and you're like, this is garbage, right? The blue haired 20 year old women who wrote this scene have no idea what a fight looks like. They've never been in one, they've never been near one, they've never seen one. Right? So it's the same sort of disconnect between reality and perception of reality and I think warps our parenting. When I first started doing CrossFit and I got my first muscle up,
Starting point is 00:59:37 I was then I remember one time I was out filming something and a flight got delayed and we had to stay the night in some city, right? So there's all of us who are on this plane and we all get bused over and they drop us off at this hotel right and so there's a hundred of us there at the hotel at the at the registration desk and they tell us it's full so 70 of us have to move to the hotel next door and so we all start going over there and there's a chain-link fence between this hotel and the other hotel and you had to Go a significant way around like probably 400 yards to go 200 yards this way and go around and I just went straight to the chain link fence
Starting point is 01:00:14 Climbed up carrying my luggage and climbed over the other side. I would have never Because I was I was a fucking pussy as a kid at 35 years old. It was probably the first time I climbed a chain link fence I was a fucking pussy as a kid at 35 years old. It was probably the first time I climbed a chain-link fence Yeah, and I was in and out before those people ever even got there But I would have never done that because my perception of the world is that it's a chain-link fence and it's there to stop me, but after just doing being able to do one muscle up I Was like no, I'm not I'm not like I'm going just straight like The six foot chain link fence. Yeah and so my whole and that was a huge eye opening
Starting point is 01:00:46 moment for me because people are limited by their perceptions of what they're capable of and they project it onto other people. I'll tell you another fucking funny story, Russell. We were at this hotel the other day and there's this crazy, we're at this really fancy hotel, we're billionaires with a be go and Palo Alto and there's this crazy, we're at this really fancy hotel where billionaires with a be go and Palo Alto. And there's this crazy fucking hot slutty 60 year old woman at the bar, right? Crazy body, big old titties, fake titties. And she's sitting at the bar and she orders like a $60 a Moscow mule. And then she takes it. Suzu is telling me the story. Suzu is at the bar waiting for Greg and I to show up and she takes her, uh,
Starting point is 01:01:25 cup and she holds it under the table and she's pouring it into a plastic bottle and half of it goes onto the floor. So she orders another $60 drink and then she does three drinks before she gets the bottle full and Susie's telling me the story. And I thought, can you imagine it? And I went to Nobu last night and I saw the exact same thing you may you're at a place where the dinner costs $3,000 for fucking three people to have dinner and you may and you make fucking you know
Starting point is 01:01:55 Three million dollars a year and you're still too embarrassed to just pour the drink in the plastic bottle yourself You still are worried about your fucking image. And when I went to Nobu last night in Malibu and I looked around, it's the most uncomfortable, like they're not even free. You know what I mean? Like they had to put on their Joker outfit just to go outside. There's not one person in there that just rolled in. You know what I mean? Like I'm rich as fuck. What do I give a fuck? You know what I mean? Hair all dish shovel. It's not like that at all No matter how much money they get no matter everything that they have they're still not free They're feeling that they they even put themselves in situations where there's even more social pressure
Starting point is 01:02:35 and I was like man, this is a There's no escape from yourself. There's no amount of money that will allow you to escape from yourself. It reminds me of yourself. There's no amount of money that will allow you to escape from yourself. It reminds me of you know, the poor the poor white trash guy that suddenly finds himself with a lot of money. First thing he does is he goes out and he buys something that will attract the most attention right so people can see that he has a lot of money. Like a big lifted truck. Right. Or whatever it is, you know, the platinum, the Bollariat F
Starting point is 01:03:05 150 package with a lift. It's a, yeah, it's a, it's a funny phenomena where you come, you come from those impoverished, you might say backgrounds and your, your goal with your money is just to spend the rest of your life like proving that you're not there anymore and make it as obvious as you can make sure everybody can see it on you. Yeah. Like the even that even the wear in the ball cap with the sticker and the tag still on it. It's like the same thing. Easy to see how much I paid for this. Hey, and you know what's funny? There's two kinds of people like that. There's people like my dad, who still leave the sticker on there because he just forgot to take it off. Or like I can't tell you how many times I put on a hat and then I'm like after like a week I'm like this head sucks and then I realized I didn't take that white thing out that piece of
Starting point is 01:03:53 cardboard in the front versus the guy who versus the guy who left it on there on purpose you know what I mean versus like some 80 year old man like my dad he's still got the sticker on there. You know what I mean versus like some 80 year old man like my dad. He's still got the sticker on there Russell spot on here grassy on a rubio This phenomenon has been studied well kids today with sterile environment are not learning proper risk management like they used to decades ago Um, uh briana, uh, I do agree with the fear-mongering though. My parents are both public school teachers in California. They don't know people and They don't know people doing all this crazy stuff not saying it doesn't happen, but it's not a commonplace But what crazy stuff? What crazy stuff tell me what crazy stuff
Starting point is 01:04:38 Dildo hi people think the world is as bad as it's ever been when in reality We live in one of the best time periods in history There we're just more aware of problems than we have ever been because of connectivity The problem is dude is if you have kids Yeah, he's right We live in one of the best moments in history and the best country in the world. We're extremely Fortunate to not be in, you know ancient Babylon or modern-day Ukraine or whatever, but yeah, it's still my kids.
Starting point is 01:05:09 I'm still going to take this stuff seriously. My kids are in private school, but the public school in our same city has a litter box in the bathroom. You know what that's for, Russell? Yeah, it's for your little trans species autists. Crazy. Yep. So what happens when you give kids unfettered access to TikTok?
Starting point is 01:05:34 They think they're cats. I was looking at a map the other day. It's the communicability of it's wild. You mean like it's a virus? Like hey, Johnny's using a litter box, I'm going to use a litter box? Yeah. Gender dysphoria, LGBTQ stuff is, you can catch it. It's communicable, socially communicable, just like anorexia.
Starting point is 01:06:02 You put a bunch of girls in a hospital together and they're on the same floor of the hospital and one of them is being treated for anorexia You put a bunch of girls in a hospital together and they're on the same floor of the hospital and one of them is being Treated for anorexia. They all come out anorexic It's the same thing with gender dysphoria the same thing with I think I'm a cat It was like that with hippies in college 90% of the hippies came from wealthy parents and what they would do is they would put like mud and Eggs together and they put it in their hair to make dreadlocks. They would get holes in their pants and then sew in patches Yeah, they would they would do things to look like they they caught the hippie virus Yeah
Starting point is 01:06:42 as opposed to like occasionally you'd come across a real hippie and it's just some guy who lives in the van who smokes too much weed, who like makes pipes out of bamboo and sells them to the fake hippies. You know what I mean? And his pants have a hole. Because that's the only pants that has. You learn to do that stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:01 You learn to do that stuff and your social circle teaches you. I mean, this is not a new phenomenon. They used to call it hysteria, right? Women would be diagnosed with hysteria and it manifests in all sorts of weird symptoms. Later it became anorexia and then dissociative disorder. And now it's gender dysphoria and even to some degree autism, which has now been redefined. And this idea that you can be a cat as your identity. All of these disorders, all of them are medically analogous. They all affect women more than they affect men.
Starting point is 01:07:38 They're all socially contagious. And the reason that they manifest with different symptoms is because of phenomena. We've known about for hundreds of years where Women who are in extreme emotional distress will act out this distress in whatever way is perceived as socially acceptable at the time So you will literally see symptoms come Come out of nowhere like the symptom of anorexia, like suddenly I just feel like I'm 300 pounds when I'm actually 80. These symptoms develop once a woman or girl learns about them and finds that, oh, this is a socially acceptable way of expressing this inner turmoil I don't know what to do with. So my question to you is, you put your kids in public school, you find out that in this public
Starting point is 01:08:23 school there's an outbreak of some terrible disease like Ebola. school you find out that in this public school there's an outbreak of some terrible disease like Ebola If you find out that there's kids with Ebola in the public school your kid goes to what are you gonna do? Pull them out pull them out. Yeah, you're not gonna send them to that school What happens when you have a school where you find out that there's an outbreak of? Transgenderism you should pull your kid out. It's the same thing. They're you're putting them at risk no, you take them to Target and buy them the the the fake penis and the
Starting point is 01:08:50 Clothes are the opposite sex to help so that you put a litter box in the bathroom So the the kids with the sickness will feel better Hey, you think that's just straight codependency what we're going through right now all these people do you think it's it's um you think it's the same as if like? You know the common metaphor that the internet loves is if someone has anorexia instead of helping them through it you give them a What's that called about by Bariatric surgery yeah, so they can lose even more weight like it's like a girl so
Starting point is 01:09:24 Not it is perfect, huh? Yeah more weight like it's like it like a girl so It is perfect, huh? Yeah, it's it's medically it is the analog to gender dysphoria is anorexia. It's the same Underlying disorder. We're just seeing it manifest with different symptoms At a different at a time period where that's the socially acceptable way For women and girls to act that out There's another book I need to recommend to you. It's it's also abigail schreier. It's called irreversible Damage, I think She documents all of this she nearly got cancelled for it
Starting point is 01:10:02 I don't know if you can pull it up. I can pull it up Uh I'll do it for you if you want Abigail Shrier, what's the name of the book irreversible damage? So it's got I think I've read it's got this little girl Yeah, I think she recommended these books every time I've come on your show. Well, good, I'm glad you do. People love it. It's because we talk about the same stuff, which is good. People love these... I'm gonna keep recommending them
Starting point is 01:10:36 until I recommend them and you're like, yeah, we know. Okay, good, so you can come on 100 more times. Hey, you're our most frequented request guests to come back By far no second place. Do you think that's because they want me to prank call point of fitness again? I don't know but when I when we are gonna we will get to that point I'm not at home or else I'd be more in my road casters all fucked up or else I would be more Pushing for that on the show. Hey Do you think that?
Starting point is 01:11:08 Here's what I think one of the problems is to so There are some real hippies, right? There is the guy that drops out of college and lives in his van or lives in a tent at the beach yeah, and he's trying to you know, live the aesthetic lifestyle and He's like Oh one love and God will take care of me if I'm, and you know what I mean? And he's into breathing and doing good for other people
Starting point is 01:11:31 and carving, making his money, carving little wooden pipes to stick people. And so, and then the other 99% are the people who are just trying to get that image. Do you think that the gay thing is the exact same way? You think that there are some people who are just gay and that the thing is, is so that there's, bear with me here as I say this, so there's one person who's gay and then there's another 99 are faking it. I'm just making this up as an analogy. None of
Starting point is 01:12:01 the numbers or stats are right. And, and therefore, you can't address those 99 people, because then you would be offending that one person. And so it's kind of it's this weird. Yeah, it's this weird phenomenon happens. Yeah, I don't think I'd ever use the words faking it, but I do think there's a difference in presentation, like to just be completely objective. What would you use besides faking it? I think what you're seeing is you're seeing two different classifications of disorder, trying to act like they're the same thing,
Starting point is 01:12:40 and people treating them like they're the same thing. So a good example is the transgenderism. Gender dysphoria is not new, but historically it was extraordinarily rare. It was almost always men who presented with dysphoria and it almost always began. The symptoms began at like two years old. That's not what we see today. Transgenderism has increased like 4000% in the West and the vast majority are teenage girls who get it at about 16. And they don't even have the classical symptoms of transgenderism. Many of them don't even want to be men. They just don't want to be girls. Right. That's why you get these ambiguous pronouns. Right. So this is a different issue. It's fundamentally a different disorder than what we would classically call gender dysphoria So you got to be careful to distinguish between the two but but in general, what are the what's the one we're seeing around us?
Starting point is 01:13:32 What's the one we're dealing with? It's the latter. It's this weird new phenomena. That's that's medically analogous to to anorexia So if you tell me I've had gender dysphoria since I was two So if you tell me I've had gender dysphoria since I was two, I'm a dude who thinks I think I'm a woman, I don't want to talk about it, I don't want to make it my identity, I'm not like being coached by my friend circle on how to act like I've always had it, then you have something different than what these girls have and what we're seeing in the public schools. The majority of lesbians that I have known and know or women who present like men have told me that they present like that because they don't want men. It's not that they don't want to be a woman. It's they don't want to be treated by men in a certain way.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Yeah. So something happened to them in some interaction they had with a man that they don't want anymore. And so they changed their outer appearance and their behavior so that they don't get treated It's to avoid it's to avoid being treated by It's their way of avoiding being treated by men as a as what they think the way men treat women I mean a lot of it got a lot of those of man they get
Starting point is 01:14:59 Yeah Relationship between sexual abuse and sort of what you might call like aberrant sexual activities and attractions, which your audience will probably love me saying it that way, there's a strong connection there. And I think we're seeing something similar with young girls who are identifying as transgender, I suspect overreacting or really just reacting to the way that the internet and living on your phone in an age of TikTok and Instagram has warped our perception of what a woman should do and look like and be. Like our teenage girls are really almost like the canary in the coal mine, right? They're being affected hardest and worst and first And it just it's it's just a measure of how warped our society is that we're seeing it first in them
Starting point is 01:15:52 And it's funny it goes both ways when I was watching the Democrat National Convention, I had never seen an uglier group of women and when I watched the Republican Convention, I had never seen a Uglier group of women and when I watched the Republican convention, I had never seen a More painful expression of woman in the sense that it looks like they like I couldn't even see them They look like fucking all look like Ronald McDonald With the fake tits and the all the makeup and I'm just like holy shit this looks fucking hard to be a woman and you're both both of them are just Do not look like fun expressions of a woman to me not anything I don't recognize I personally don't recognize any of them are just do not look like fun expressions of a woman to me. Not anything. I don't recognize I personally don't recognize any of them as uh
Starting point is 01:16:31 As women but I like that shit natural myself I mean, what do you expect from a culture that doesn't know what a woman is anymore? right right, we we can thank feminism for this, uh, we're at a place now where you basically get these two extremes. You get the Instagram pornography model version of a woman, or you get this purple-haired obese troll that wants to be called a they them because she knows there's no way to be that and she wants nothing to do with that. And I mean, it's pretty bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:03 Have you looked at this population decline thing at all? It's pretty bad. Yeah. Have you looked at this population decline thing at all? Yeah. Yeah, that's not new. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. When I was a kid, I'm a little older than you, but when I was a kid, there was this huge push that we were going to overpopulate
Starting point is 01:17:22 and that people should be kids. Oh, yeah. It was one of the great doomsday apocalyptic claims of the left back in the 70s I think. Yeah, and- What's there with global cooling? And being a mother was villainized, having kids was villainized. It was like, hey, that's not what real women do.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Real women become CEOs. Another product of feminism. And now I was looking at, it's not fertility rates, it's... Birth rate. Is it birth rate? Yeah, it's in a fucking crazy decline. People don't want to have kids. And I think it's, this is going to be harsh harsh to say but I think that I'm on to something here I think that not teaching a man how to fight Is tantamount to a woman not having a baby?
Starting point is 01:18:16 Yeah, meaning and I use fight very loosely but a man who never gets a chance to express himself And is in his full like capacity as a man like he doesn't ever go out onto a track and run as fast as he can if he doesn't get a chance to wrestle other men if he doesn't get a chance to like really fucking stimulate I'm just making this up his testosterone levels like really then that he never he's never gonna be a fool man he's never going to be he's never gonna be emotionally and it's tied to emotion he's never going to be a fool man. He's never going to be emotionally, and it's tied to emotion.
Starting point is 01:18:47 He's never going to be emotionally intact. Never emotionally a fool man until he experiences the intensity of being face to face with, OK, it's me against this. And then I think the same is for a woman. I don't think a woman ever gets a fool. I think that there's no difference between a woman who never has a baby and a woman
Starting point is 01:19:06 Who is a 200 pounds or 300 pounds and can't climb over a fence? Meaning they never get to they never got to do the woman thing Yeah, there's a They never got they and they'll never be they'll net you'll never turn into a woman And you always have like six dogs and love your dogs and post pictures of your dogs on the internet gender is not a social construct it's a reality rooted in our design and our biology men are made to do and to be certain things women are made to do and be certain things and we find the the fullest expression of that
Starting point is 01:19:43 design for men and women in the husband, wife, father, mother roles. That doesn't mean there aren't people who are going to be infertile and not be able to have kids. There's still women. There's still men. But there is, in a perfect world, a world without sin and disease, that's what we're made for.
Starting point is 01:20:01 And so when you lose that, when you start forgetting that marriage is designed for procreation and you start thinking marriage is designed for you to like, I don't know, share bank accounts and have the most materialistic fun life you can have without, and your kids, if you have them, are just accessories to tack on to your selfish desires. You may like technically be a mother or father, but you're still missing the point You know to create and raise children who will replace you Yeah, and we don't do that now where people are having kids. It's like I got a house I got a dog. I need a kid now, right?
Starting point is 01:20:37 You're just it's just another fashion accessory and most of them are at this point saying that let's just stick to dogs Let's just treat our dogs like children. We had a dog and my wife was obsessed with the dog, like obsessed, obsessed, right? When you had kids? And then we had kids, and within a year the fucking dog got run over by a car. That's how it works.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Yeah, and I mean, he lived, but, and it was he lived, but, and it was because before you would open the car door. You'd shoot him twice? Before you'd open the car door and you'd pick up the dog and you pet it and carry it inside and feed it and take off his collar. I remember, I remember you guys doing that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:18 I remember the dog. Yeah, you take off the collar because that's enough restriction around him and you pet him Yeah, and at all that and and and he slept in our bed and all that shit And then we had kids and it was like like motherfucker. You better fucking keep up Yeah, it was such a good, and my, and what's interesting though is my wife's obsession over the kids isn't like that of the dogs.
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Starting point is 01:24:49 Yeah. But man, she was a fucking helicopter dog owner. Holy shit. She's doing what she was designed to do. You can just see, I mean there's no question. You see a mom go through that and like, she's got kids and those are her kids and that's what she's for. You see her like, recognize an innate sense of purpose and design and there's no there's no questioning it once you see it it's not just like a lot of the different lifestyle choice than you know she's doing what she was made for hey you think that that on a more fun note you think that that's like
Starting point is 01:25:21 a sign like if you're a woman and you have like two or three dogs and like you're posting pictures of mom and Instagram it's time to find some good cock and and and you know find a good man and Have a baby There's a there's a reason that the largest consumers of antidepressants in our country are Unmarried white women over the age of 40 mmm Mmm, it's Because we're going against their design. I mean, the lie that feminism sold them has fruit. And that fruit looks like
Starting point is 01:25:53 you're 40 years old. You're alone. You've never done anything close to fulfilling your your purpose of your design as a mother and wife, and you're miserable. And you take drugs to try and make it go away. What about men? Like I noticed for me, and I'm barely a man. I stand when I pee and I do some shit like that. But when I had kids, this is true, Russell,
Starting point is 01:26:22 I had this plan before I had kids that if someone ever broke into my house that I would climb out my window with my wife and I And I would just go to the fucking like coffee shop and have a coffee and call the police But after I had kids Yeah, there's been a dozen and there's been a dozen times where I've walked around the the property with a gun like yeah Like hey like fuck you You ever see that?
Starting point is 01:26:51 You ever see somebody that's kept like an Australian Shepherd is like a pet and then they see some kids running and they just like Immediately go hurt him. Yeah. Yeah, that's what you experienced Like oh, I I have kids I have somebody to protect. This is what I'm made for I'm gonna do it now. You don't even have to nobody has to teach you to do that No, I never even thought about it. Yeah. Yeah, and I remember the first night I did that and I'm like what the fuck has happened to me Yeah, you look in the mirror and you got a red MAGA hat on yeah It's like there's almost a part before I I don't know if you ever went through this phase but there was a part in my life where I was
Starting point is 01:27:34 kind of looking forward to anarchy like I was I was I was here for it and and now that I have kids there's I want stability and yeah, I want I want stability Yeah, yeah, it's funny how you you probably vote differently now too, huh? Oh my god So, what does that tell us like let's let's put this together Fewer and fewer young people being born which means more and more people are living like you did prior to having kids With that worldview you're gonna vote They're all gonna vote that way and the kids who are being born are gonna stay in that same perpetual adolescence Right
Starting point is 01:28:17 It's not looking good. Yeah When I would see those articles coming out that say exercising turns you conservative I was like thinking myself. Yeah, it does because Exercise gives you personal account. It lets you take a greater grasp on personal accountability and responsibility That's all it is. It just makes you more capable human being and so more and more but the truth is also is you contribute more Yeah, so like you know I mean like me and you are the ones who like help in, in these people in the audience who work out,
Starting point is 01:28:49 we're the ones that hold the door open for people, help women with their groceries into their car. It's not, not because we're nice people, but we just know we're capable of more. And so we do more. Well, and you have the self awareness and self discipline to understand what is good for you and what you're designed to do and then go to the gym and do it.
Starting point is 01:29:08 That's a pretty fundamentally conservative view of reality. I think it was Chesterton who said that a conservative is somebody who, a liberal walks into a field and sees a fence and says, let's tear this down. And a conservative goes and sees a fence and says, what would this for right? Like what's the design behind this? Why is this here? Maybe I shouldn't just immediately tear this barrier down, but I should respect it and recognize it. Yeah It's the same thing Hey, that's the thing with a religion to as a
Starting point is 01:29:38 In my previous life. I saw religion and I was like hey this needs to be torn down and In them in my in the new way I think I it's like hey, what is this for? mm-hmm Yes, it's uh Yeah, it's fascinating are you still doing a podcast No, I've been stretched a little thin and haven't haven't done that and probably don't have any plans to do that right now What are you doing? What is your what is a normal day like for you?
Starting point is 01:30:08 So I've been working as an associate pastor at my church. Lots of like preaching, teaching, hanging out with people, counseling. I'm actually taking a new job though. Can't say a lot about it. Basically gonna be like an arms dealer, more or less. Oh really? Yeah, I'm gonna be doing some firearms industry stuff. Oh.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Doing a lot of subject matter expert stuff in sales with government contracts, federal and local law enforcement for some big blue chip firearms brands. Are you excited about it? Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. And you'll be… is that something that… I'm guessing that's a travel job. A little bit, yeah. More regional, like not all over the place, but close by for sure, southeast. And are you gonna miss this other job as the associate pastor? Yeah, I'll probably stay on as a pastor at our church just not on staff
Starting point is 01:31:08 so I'll just do less of the day-to-day but just you know contribute where I can at the church is it for a specific gun manufacturer it's for many of them oh oh I can't wait to hear about this yeah Yeah Brand-new just you're the first to hear Wow, that's awesome. And and why? You're so good at presenting things why stop doing the podcast. Is it just time or It's been a lot of time and family stuff. Just like not having the bandwidth. It was it was one of the first things to get cut when I Needed to be doing other things, other responsibilities. It doesn't mean I won't keep doing it. It's just not regular. Like I've never, we've never put out like a regular anything on that podcast.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Basically, I'll like, I'll see something that I think people need to understand better, or I'll see something kind of looming like critical race theory theory We did a series on critical race theory, I think in 2019 like well before a lot of people were talking about it just because I saw the the writing on the wall And so we try and get out ahead of stuff If I see another one like that, I'll probably do another series When you see Charlie Kirk doing what he's doing. Do you ever be like shit? I could have done that or I could do that Especially when it's Charlie Kirk. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 01:32:34 Whenever I see him, I'm like geez a fucking Russell would have killed this. I can't watch him I don't think he does the best job. I mean good on him for doing it. It's not easy work But I disagree with him in enough areas when I'm, I wouldn't have said it that way, you know? Who do you agree with? Is there someone you watch and you're like, man, this guy's good? Depends on the subject, you know? If you want to talk like theology of like modern, like diagnosing what's going on in the modern world through the lens of good theology Guys like Carl Truman Occasionally Doug Wilson though. He's got some weird takes that I don't agree with
Starting point is 01:33:19 Diagnosing what's going wrong like socially and politically Greg Glassman what's going wrong like socially and politically Greg Glassman. Are you going to be out in Gotsdale in January? I would love to be out there. I with this new job, I don't know what my schedule looks like then, but if I can make it work, I'm going to make it work. Yeah. Bring someone from your new job. The it's pretty wild pretty wild. I basically met the guy who's going to be my boss just randomly doing a doing a competition
Starting point is 01:33:54 and the shooting. Yeah. Yeah. It's you know who you were. No I just we met there actually ended up winning this competition and He was essentially one of the sponsors and got to know me and found out I was a pastor We hung out and he's like, hey, I got a job. I think you should apply for It worked out great
Starting point is 01:34:24 Wait say that again. He offered you job as a pastor at first. No, no, no once he found out I was a pastor saw that I um got to know me, um The shooting competition Was wild he was there He was one of the sponsors for it. I ended up winning it and uh, then sort of talked to him about it afterwards and Kind of got in common and he thought I had some you know, some of the skills that was needed for this position and One thing led to another Hey, why was the shooting competition wild?
Starting point is 01:34:51 It's a different kind of shooting competition. It's called a there's a bunch of different names for him a running gun or a 5k bath a tactical biathlon or Basically you run cross country through woods and rivers and trees and up you know rocky hills and you run five to ten K typically and there'll be multiple shooting stages throughout the run and you have to carry a right your rifle your pistol and all your ammo with you and so you run the course and every time you get to a shooting stage
Starting point is 01:35:29 You're timed and the shooting stages can vary wildly And there's a lot of other skills involved kind of thrown into the mix and you get you get scored Half on your shooting half on your run performance So you like you don't finish these? Looking good. Like you're just gonna be soaking wet covered in mud Guys lose equipment people, you know fall down hills. It's crazy. Oh Shit that probably happens every Comprehensive. Yeah. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 01:35:57 I don't have my rifle. Oh I don't know if it's that bad Yeah, people lose stuff if you go my Instagram, there's a couple pictures from it Yeah, people lose stuff. If you go on my Instagram, there's a couple pictures from it. The one I did was put together by fifth special forces group so they have some active duty guys compete in it and It's it's one of the better ones like there's actually like some mind games that you got to play while you're doing the run Like they'll put out clues You got to be paying attention to stuff on your run route that if you don't like write down information and you can't answer questions at certain stages you have to Like they'll they'll change your route and make you run through a swamp
Starting point is 01:36:31 if you Like because it's a military kind of thing like one of the stages there's a What's yours? What's your Instagram? I? Don't know probably burger Russell. Let me see Oh burger I don't know probably burger Russell. Let me see Oh burger This is like my fifth Instagram account so like I don't oh Yeah, I can't find you sorry I haven't been on Instagram in a long time berger Yeah at Russell burger
Starting point is 01:37:11 Are you SS you know how to spell my name? No are you SS EL? To our uss. El LB er ger yeah, okay. Oh there you are Oh is this you? Oh no, I can't see what you're looking at. So that's what you run with? Jesus. I managed to take a look at your horse. Oh yeah, not the horse. Right. Oh shit, I didn't even see that. Okay, so that's get on this fake ass horse.
Starting point is 01:37:36 Wow. Yeah, it's the stages are all built around like real SF guys who are killed in action. And so that's what you run with. on this fake ass horse. Wow. Yeah, it's it's the stages are all built around like real SF guys who are killed in action. And so one of the stages this last one was sort of supposed to represent the Special Forces horse horse warriors, the guys who rode around in Afghanistan in the early years on horseback and recruited, you know, local guys to fight the Taliban.
Starting point is 01:38:05 American guys did that? Yeah, SF guys. I think there's a couple of pictures in that sort of series. I don't know how Instagram works. I put a couple in that. You could click over. Is this at your house? No, that's like a creek by our house.
Starting point is 01:38:23 It's my wife and son fishing. That's what I mean, but you can just walk there? You can't do that. So like if you go to the... Oh, you broke up. Say that again. God, nothing stops your son. He's got a broken foot and he's out fishing. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. What did you say?
Starting point is 01:38:51 If you go back to that Instagram photo. With the fish? Go back to that Instagram photo. No, no, the shooting course. Oh yeah, okay. Yeah, now click the arrow. Click the arrow. Oh, oh shit, okay. Look, now click the arrow. Click the arrow.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Oh, oh shit. Okay. Look at you. You need your own show. Oh, it's raining. Click one more over. Oh yeah, that sucks. The rain was bad.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Okay, so like in this stage right here, this, so you go into these shooting stages blind, like you have no idea what you're going to encounter. And so your time starts at your briefing. So he's, you know, I'm standing there and the guy says, put your arm like this. And so I take my non-dominant arm and I put it like this and they tie it so that you can't use your left arm. And it's to simulate basically like you've been injured. And so at the buzzer, you have to go put a cat turn ticket on a 200 pound casualty dummy, you have to actually put the turn ticket on there correctly. And then you have to run to a wound simulator and pack gauze into this bloody gushing wound and get the blood to
Starting point is 01:39:55 stop. And then you transition to pistol and have to engage 10 targets with one hand on pistol. And then you have to transition to your rifle and engage five more targets with one hand It was wild like really really challenging stuff to do if you haven't you know trained in a variety of ways, so Wow, that's hardcore. Did you know how to do the tourniquet? Oh Yeah, yeah, it's the same kind of tourniquet everybody uses in the military and in First responders use yeah, there it is right there. Is that is that the dummy that's bleeding out? Oh no, that's one with the tourniquet. That's the tourniquet dummy. His legs looking kind of rough. Damn. Yeah, that is hardcore. Hey, how many people do that? Oh, I think there was a hundred in
Starting point is 01:40:41 my 5k and then there's a 10k the next day that had about a hundred Holy shit, so I thought it would be more niche than that. I thought you were gonna say ten dudes. I mean, it's uh, It's still kind of niche, but there's a lot. I mean these things this one sold out in like three minutes Well, can there's a lot trying to get in there and did you train for that? Oh Yeah a little I I still basically do CrossFit. I just ran a little extra and I went and shot a couple weekends just to make sure all my stuff was dialed in. This is, is this your, uh, this is your daughter here with this deer? You gotta show me
Starting point is 01:41:28 Probably it sounds like her. Oh, yeah, that was Many years ago. She's she's older than that now So she shot that Oh, yeah. Yeah. She my kids usually both get at least a deer every year To contribute to the the freezer and do they clean it and all that? uh, I make them stand around and help, but most of the time I have them do like the field, like field dressing, just get the organs out and everything.
Starting point is 01:41:57 And then I take it home and I stay up till like midnight trying to butcher it and put it in the freezer and they go to bed. God, that's awesome. I went to a Roman, I went to Dave's ranch the other day he called me up and he said hey bring your kids up here and I said okay because Avi had been saying he wanted to shoot a squirrel and so we went up there and uh him and Dave, I mean, I didn't do shit. Him and Dave fucking got the gun already, uh, shot the squirrel. They went and fetched it. Uh, Dave showed them how to like, you know, tear its asshole open and
Starting point is 01:42:32 fucking pull them out naked. I guess we used to tell my kids is taking his pajamas off. Yeah, took his pajamas off. And, uh, Hey, that falls exactly in line. 20 years ago, I would have thought someone who shot a squirrel is a complete scumbag and an asshole. Right. And a little bit of me still has that in there. But like, I don't tell my kids that you know what I mean? Because my boys are so fucking excited about it. And then and then he put it into a plastic bag. And he took it to his wife and his
Starting point is 01:43:05 wife's been marinating it now for like a month. And so Dave's gonna have the boys back over here when we get back from Los Angeles. And they're gonna he's gonna show the boys how to start a fire and cook the squirrel and eat it. Yeah, we're gonna start calling him dad next. I don't know what do you what do you call what do Mexican kids call their dad do they call him dad or Papa poppy? I know and my kids make fun of me for that too. That's awesome Hey, listen Listen, I know I know I know my limitations You're outsourcing. Yeah, it's just like what to do when my kids are when they Algebra 2 trigonometry? I'm like, ah, I can't help you.
Starting point is 01:43:46 I'm out forcing. Well, hey dude, thanks for coming on. Really appreciate you coming on. Thanks for having me. Yeah, let's do it sooner than later. The last time, what's funny is the last time you were on, I think the second you got off the show, I texted Susan and I said, let's reschedule Russell. And it took, and it still still took us and no fault of Susan
Starting point is 01:44:05 is more of a minor your fault. But I think I had something come up and then you had something come up and we just kept canceling on each other. Yeah, let's make it happen again soon. Yeah. Awesome, dude. All right. Have an awesome day, dude. I'll see you later. If not, if not soon, maybe in January. Yeah, you got to do that, dude. Let's hang. Let's do it. All right, brother. Ciao. Take care. Russell Burger.
Starting point is 01:44:32 He was very chill today. Very chill. I mean, not that he's not always chill, but he was like extra, extra, extra chill. And I wonder if um, Caleb got, I wonder if a hurricane fucking hit his van and swept him away. Oh, what is today? Today's Friday? Oh, what is today? Today's Friday. I ordered a new road caster to be sent here. I think it shows up today. I'm always I'm bummed that excuse me I'm bummed that the phone lines aren't working. Or maybe they are working and I just don't know. I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Seve, when are you getting a haircut? I don't know, my hair's crazy. I think, you know, I was feeling my hair yesterday. I think something's happening to my hair. I'm like going, maybe I'm going bald. Something, it feels different. I don't know what's going on. I Something, it feels different. I don't know what's going on. I feel if something feels different.
Starting point is 01:45:54 I don't know what's going on. I think I'm gonna hang out with you guys for a bit. Probably should take a pee break Ipotic is paranormal when I first got into CrossFit and went down the YouTube rabbit hole trying to get an info info. I Could Russell was in a lot of those old videos. Oh, yeah. Yeah Russell wasn't a lot of old videos. I mean dude, he was a He spent a I spent a lot of time with Russell he spent a lot of time with Greg We both worked in the same office together. He was great He was awesome
Starting point is 01:46:33 He was really really awesome Um Seve is the population really declining? You tell me buddy. I Don't think I don't think we said the population is declining. Oh by the way The that day remember a few days ago when you accused me of calling Britney Spears the c-word or Tiffany Taylor Swift Taylor Swift the c-word remember that when you accused me of that the c-word or Tiffany Taylor Swift Taylor Swift the c-word remember that when you accuse me of that the c-word the irony the irony of that
Starting point is 01:47:15 Mr. Patrick Lang Was that was the first time and as far back as I could remember that a show of mine wasn't tagged by YouTube that a show of mine wasn't tagged by YouTube. Meaning every time I get off the show, YouTube tags my show and says, hey, we won't, they say, hey, we're not going to recommend, you know, a huge chunk of sponsors to you because of whatever the AI picked up on something I said that they don't think it's appropriate for most sponsors.
Starting point is 01:47:42 So then every show I have to put in, I have to request a review of the show and then 99% of them, the review passes and I get all the sponsors back. But what's interesting is, is that show that you accused me of that. And so I think we've established that, um, you need hearing aids. I think we've established. So I don't know if population is declining, like for real.
Starting point is 01:48:09 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. How would I know? I didn't say the population is declining. I said the birth rate is dropping. Is the birth rate dropping?
Starting point is 01:48:17 I mean, schools are closing. Look at schools are closing down all over the country. Probably a lot of that is people homeschooling. But so many schools are closing. Elementary schools, junior highs. You need a hearing aid. You think that's from being by so much like leaf blowers and stuff like that? Like gardening equipment? leaf blowers and stuff like that. Uh, like gardening equipment, tractors, man toys.
Starting point is 01:48:57 Jake Chapman, is there a peptide to make my boner softer? They've gotten way too hard recently and I like that slightly softer look. Uh, here's the deal. If your penis gets too erect, what I recommend is you call Pat Lang and it will it will get soft again. Hey Pat, who are you voting for? I'm just curious. Are you voting? Let me guess, you're not voting. Who are you voting for? Tell me Patrick. I'm just curious who you're not voting. Who are you voting for? Tell me, Patrick, I'm just curious. Who are you voting for? For President of the United States.
Starting point is 01:49:33 All right, we'll come back in just a minute to look at, to talk. We'll come back in just a second to talk. Yes, let's do that. I'm gonna refill paver street coffee. I'm Krista Pongwar. This is Tobias Pongwar. I'm 44, E7. I'm originally from Hungary, from Budapest, Hungary, and we go to Salty Head CrossFit. I was previously at a different gym.
Starting point is 01:50:09 I was looking for a new place and came here. I came during the day when Kiddo was in school. That changed and he had to come with me. I thought I would have to give it up because I didn't have time. I don't have anywhere else to put him, a single mom. The people here were so amazing and accepting that he was here hanging out. It just made it easier to continue. The fact that they welcomed him with open arms and just kind of brought him into the
Starting point is 01:50:39 family was huge. I've never felt so accepted by a community in this community. Most places always looked down on me because of my size or lack of capabilities and never felt that here. Not one judgment. So it was very welcoming and made it very easy to come back To brain business video contest Coming soon Susan said he spent like eight hours yesterday going through Videos he's uploading them to YouTube and then we have to figure out how we're gonna judge them I apologize for those of you who are waiting for the 5,000, 3,000, and 2,000 or $1,000. And we'll be getting that done very soon.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Suzy said it was crazy uploading. I wonder, I haven't even talked to him. I wonder if he got them all up. But basically put them all on YouTube. I think that they're gonna be available for all of the members to watch ahead of time and somehow maybe we're gonna use you guys To judge them. I'm not sure I'm with like thumbs up or With thumbs up or comments or whatnot so
Starting point is 01:52:01 Yesterday I went and heard Greg glassman give a speak at a speak, a talk at CrossFit Malibu. They had a new location I had never been to. It was just a block away from the original location. Really austere gym and a really swanky area of the United States right on the coast there, west coast of the United States, stone's throw from the beach. The place was completely packed.
Starting point is 01:52:27 It was interesting because I got there, I went there with Sarah and Paul, who I had an absolute blast with. We had so much fun. And so I missed the first half hour, we were late, we were driving up from Newport, we got there half hour late. So I only heard the last 90 minutes of his talk. But it was pretty wild because I thought he was going to be there talking about broken science and when he steps in front of a When he steps in front of a oh Patrick Lang your exact words population decline, okay you win when he steps in I thought he's to talk about broken science and
Starting point is 01:53:11 The last 90 minutes when he was taking questions people were asking him questions like greg, what do you think about? You know microplastics. What do you think about ice baths? What do you think about saunas and they were act? Uh, they were asking him all these questions And it was weird, um I haven't spoke with Greg about it since but they... I assume most of these people were gym owners. I don't know for sure. Very fit looking crowd, older people, like maybe my age, most of them, a couple young people, everyone looked really fit. I look like a sloppy dork there. Yeah, he just, I don't want to say Greg is reinventing himself, but when he is with these Crossfitters, oh shit, I can't follow Russell Burger back on my, from my computer.
Starting point is 01:54:15 This is so weird. Look at this. Look at this. Watch when I try to follow Russell Burger back. Watch what it does. Look at this watch when I try to follow Russell burger back watch what it does look at this It won't let me follow him back Shit Russell has more followers than I do Yeah, you see that I can't fall him back that's weird um
Starting point is 01:54:44 Just the questions they ask are It's like I don't see as Greg is that guy anymore Even though he has all the information they want they still wanted him they like they they ask him questions like he is The CEO of CrossFit still the CEO of CrossFit still. Or they ask him questions like, like he's moved on, but the crowd won't let him. It was, it was, it was interesting. This is going to be, this is going to be is gonna be and this is gonna be really really really interesting This is gonna be interesting I also saw that Emily Kaplan did an interview with Emily beers at the morning chalk up Which is bizarre to me, I don't know why anyone would talk to the morning chalk up, let alone Emily Beers.
Starting point is 01:55:49 She's a bona fide just true hater of Greg Glassman's. I mean, to the highest level, she's got what I would consider some serious mental health issues. And I don't know why Emily chose to talk to them. I don't know, unless it was just a rehearsal for Emily Kaplan, but the value of talking to Morning Chalk Up, I think, is the opposite of value. I think it's brand diminishing, as I like to say, to speak to them. Jethro, it's like Trump doing a CNN interview. Matt Burns, we are desperate for leadership in the community. Yeah, I you know what I think that I think that's a good analysis. I
Starting point is 01:56:54 Think that's a good analysis I was I was watching There's a video out of Don Paul speaking to the affiliates There's a video out of Dawn Falls speaking to the affiliates. It's 30 minutes long. And I was watching that the other day. And I've had many, many conversations with Matt Souza about it. And I was noticing the different leadership styles between Dawn and Greg and maybe what their objectives are for the company CrossFit. But there was a point where Don is like, hey, let's be honest with each other. And he kind of goes into this talk of like running a CrossFit gym is hard.
Starting point is 01:57:38 And I'm reading into it, but the implications were is that you guys aren't making a lot of money. And then from there he pivots too But there's nothing greater in life than servicing others. And so that was my takeaway from it that Running across the gym is hard. You don't like make a lot of money, but service is the greatest thing you can do for mankind And I was thinking, you know what Greg would have said and I'm just making this up I mean, I don't know this for sure but Greg would have gotten in front in front of a bunch of affiliates and said, hey, if you've been doing this
Starting point is 01:58:10 for more than five years and you're not making $100,000 a year, maybe you should consider switching businesses. Maybe this isn't for you. And there's a difference there in what you're offering as a message, honesty, integrity, brand value. And the harsh reality of life, this one's not going to sit well with you guys. I don't know where you guys live, but the harsh reality of life is in California, life doesn't start until you make $500,000 a year. And so on one hand, and when you're making that kind of money, you can actually start
Starting point is 01:59:01 to serve, you can service a lot of people. You can offer service and what do I mean does anyone know what I mean or have any thoughts on what I mean by life doesn't start until you start making five hundred thousand dollars a year it's when you can you actually can kind of look up for a second and take some fucking deep breaths. Oh, Jake Chapman, life doesn't start until you do anal.
Starting point is 01:59:31 Wow. That's disgusting. And so I was, I was, I was disappointed in sort of Don's presentation like that. And then he talks about how CrossFit HQ can't do this alone, and he talks about how they're trying to up the value of trainers and that's why they're asking people to take their level to And I and I I Don't know I just I wasn't I wasn't buying any of it. I think Susan's gonna do a deep dive into it
Starting point is 02:00:21 But like yeah Susan I were talking and We're brainstorming calls of action. And like, here's a real simple call to action. Ready? You want to talk to all the affiliates. And you're interested in increasing search engine optimization, and you're interested in getting CrossFit gyms more leads. Here's what you do. It's very simple. Susan and I came up with this. Just one simple thing that every affiliate can do. You ready? We came up with two ideas in five minutes.
Starting point is 02:00:59 Here's the first one and Susan is going to go into this more. Number one, all affiliates out there. Follow CrossFit's Instagram. Every day on your list of things to do, wake up first thing in the morning, go to CrossFit Instagram, hit the heart button and make a comment about the post. Ask all of your clients to do that. If you can get 10,000 comments on every single fucking post that CrossFit Instagram does, the whole fucking community will flourish. The whole fucking community will, I don't know, flourish is the right word, the whole
Starting point is 02:01:43 community will benefit from it How easy is that as a call to action you want to empower the affiliates? Hey, this is what we need you to do I just need you to wake up every single morning like the post and Make a comment What will that do that will fucking skyrocket the CrossFit's Instagram on, in the algorithm and that will get more notoriety for all the gyms. Super easy.
Starting point is 02:02:16 So easy. Hugely powerful. It will do everything that five marketing people could do who are working full-time, but just give that power to the affiliates Yeah, but no not not but is there a new post Oh, but is there a new post to engage each day to engage? Well, that's the promise. He asked that's a great question I don't even know but that's what he has to do he has to be like and on my what I will do is I will make sure that I make a post every single day it's a great great great great point Jedidiah Great, great, great point Jedidiah.
Starting point is 02:03:06 Second thing that we came up with, Dear CrossFit Community, I want you guys to know something. There is a very prolific filmmaker out there who makes a video almost every single day. His passion is second to fucking none. His content has the most engagement of anyone out there. His name is Andrew Hiller. He loves making things. He can't stop making things. He's obsessed with the community.
Starting point is 02:03:41 He loves all things CrossFit. He's obsessed with human movement. He's obsessed with the psychology, the sociology, the physiology. He has no peer. So what I would like you guys to do is I would like to harness the energy of this man, Andrew Hiller, and what I would like you guys to do on a regular drumbeat at least once a week, go over to his Instagram or his YouTube and tell him a good story about either yourself or someone in your gym to help invigorate him and give him stories that we would like him to shine light on. God, it's fucking such a good idea.
Starting point is 02:04:31 That's what you call leadership. And I don't know shit about leadership. But that's what you call fucking leadership. Fuck you. You have an affiliate for five years and you make not make $100,000 a year. Maybe maybe you don't belong here. Number two, engage the mothership. You all have the power to boost us up in the crazy algorithm.
Starting point is 02:04:56 And number three, please engage with our most prolific filmmaker in the space and give him ideas of stories you'd love to cover. I don't know if Andrew loves anal. I don't know if that's true. I don't know if he's, I don't know if he's into ass play. I don't know if that's true. All real men love ass play, is that true? I don't know, I think all gay rappers like ass play. Vindicate, 20% off on all purchases at Vindicate.
Starting point is 02:05:48 Use break time code, vndk8.com. Get your CEO shirt today. How do you not have a CEO shirt? Vindicate, I can't take advice from someone with hair, that hair. What is going on today? Oh My goodness Rambler would like to chime in on ass play. It's not a gay thing. I think it's primal dominance thing. Yeah, men on men.
Starting point is 02:06:35 I think a dog humping another dog is to show who's the alpha. Well, let me tell you what my straight-ass dog used to do. He used to just put his head on another dog's back. Oh. Dick Butter, we don't call them rappers anymore, more we call them rapists. Fair enough. Oh wow, wow. That hurts. Christian Kettler, his hands smell like cat piss now. You know the reason why my hair might be doing this, well I'm in the awkward hair stage anyway,
Starting point is 02:07:10 but maybe the reason why my hair is doing this also is because I have been, I've soaked my hair like three times this month. I do feel the social pressure when I'm around Greg to wash my hair, because I don't want him to have to smell when he hugs me to smell cat piss. Johnny! Because I don't want him to have to smell when he hugs me to smoke cat piss
Starting point is 02:07:34 Paper Street coffee weighs in Listen when you guys talk in the kitchen listen use your inside voice whisper Well, they're in smack the shit out of somebody paper street coffee the new vindicate hoodies are fucking hard. Hey, are you going to work out? At what time All right, perfect, I love it. All right, I'll take care of the boys well when you're gone Yeah, I Heard one of them say oh no, we're gonna get cracked It is something to brag about who's gonna get correct
Starting point is 02:08:17 Where do you want to go? Can we ride skateboards a little bit just a little bit I know and know, and then when the sun comes out we'll go to the beach. Let's ride skateboards for an hour. Let's cruise around, strut our shit. Look at chicks. Oh. Get off the show? You want to play with me? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:42 Yeah Seve have you ever worked out naked with your wife no, but I work out my underwear all the time Like every day. I'm in my underwear now Yeah, I am What do you think these are No, these aren't shorts. These are my long underwear. I love you. All right. Maybe I'll bug the boys and we'll do a show tonight.
Starting point is 02:09:35 We still have to rank the women. Most popular women. Let me see if the boys want to do that now. It's today Friday. Today's Friday, right? Today's Friday, right? Most popular female games athletes ranking tonight. Jeffrey Bursfield says, yep, we need to do that. Or yes, Tia wins. Oh
Starting point is 02:10:32 Yes, thank you Judy kill Taylor tomorrow at 8 a.m so tomorrow is gonna be interesting because Bryson's not around and Bryson usually runs the cameras and So I think what's gonna happen is Taylor's gonna be I think he's gonna be at a new location I don't know. I actually called Taylor right now. That's actually not a bad idea. I'll find out what's going on with that. Thank you, Judy. You're not just the accountant for the station.
Starting point is 02:11:10 Katie Henniger is the wealthiest, fair enough. Hey, this is Taylor. You can leave your name and phone number and a brief message. Hi. Oh wow. That's funny you say that Beaver is voting for Christian Clever because I said, Hey, do you guys want to do a show tonight? Most popular female games athlete ranking tonight? And Caleb responded, I'm ready to make women cry. All right. Hardcore. Anything else?
Starting point is 02:11:56 You guys want any political commentary? I showed you Tupac's gay already. I got something for you. How about, how about, how about men whose fingers can point up? Do you know what I mean? You know like how there's men who can do that? When I met Rick Ross, his fingers could do that. He had the softest hands of any man I've ever shook, shooken, shooken, shaken, shooken, shooken, shooken, shaken hands with and his fingers could do that could go up and I had this teacher who was in the I had this teacher in the it was either seventh grade or eighth grade it was my
Starting point is 02:12:33 English teacher and he would always come up behind students all the boys and like put his fingers in their ears and one time he tried to do that to me and I'm like hey dude don't do that and he goes oh what happened to you as a little kid he said that in front of the whole fucking class to me and i'm like hey dude don't do that And he goes, oh what happened to you as a little kid? He said that in front of the whole fucking class to me. I was fucking pissed. That's gross, right? That's fucked up anyway, and I remember his fingers went up and I always got child molester vibes from him You know what i'm talking about I want to all the men in the um We're listening right now to see if they can make their fingers point up like Tupac was. You know what I'm saying? Like he could bend them
Starting point is 02:13:11 up. Does that mean you're gay if you can bend your fingers up? Let me see. Can you do it? Oh, God, I hope you guys didn't hear that. Oh, man, I hope you guys can't hear the conversation in my house right now Maybe it's not if your fingers can do it. Maybe it's just like if you do do it I'm trying my hardest to What? Yeah, like it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, like if you just have that affect where you bend your fingers up. Oh, fuck, that hurt my forearm. How about this? Did you guys see this?
Starting point is 02:14:26 I guess this isn't real. I guess AI made this. This is supposedly a Justin Bieber song. An old Justin Bieber song. Go ahead and give this a listen. [" said sorry Lost myself at a ditty party Lost myself at a ditty party Didn't know that's how it go I was in it for a new Ferrari But it cost me way more than my soul
Starting point is 02:15:19 Wasn't worried for the fortune and fame All the girls never walk in the same Turned the pages so he never has to ever say sorry Lost myself at a ditty party Barry mcconk and her sebon doesn't know this is AI. Oh Darn it Standy Randy this that's what my wife said AI is scary God you guys say some of the dumbest shit sometimes someone in the comments
Starting point is 02:15:57 I hate it when when fecundo was on he's like stop beating around the bush. I'm like, uh, I'm not beating around the bush or the other day in the comments Someone said took sebon 45 minutes to ask rich blah blah blah. She said shut the fuck up You don't know me You don't know shit You don't know shit Love Facundo, but you don't know shit. Lost myself at a diddy party Cost me way more than my soul lost myself at a Diddy party well Diddy was
Starting point is 02:16:33 fucking me all I thought of was Jake Chapman let's get Bieber on know, we got to. I'll give you a... I'll give you... What's that sign? Is that a dyslexic letter? What is that? One of something? If you eat a leaf off that plant behind you. Is that code for handjob? One handjob? That's the international sign for a hand job lost myself at a ditty party I should sing what do I just need an auto tuner? Oh What do I just need an auto tuner? Oh my god you guys ready for this listen, I'm so fucking ahead of my time. Oh, let's see if the phone works
Starting point is 02:17:54 Hold on Hello Hello Shit Hi, no, it doesn't work, but I'll just hold the phone up next to my microphone. Go ahead. To the road. Yeah. Yeah, I ordered a new one yesterday. Any other company? Actually, no, I don't know. But to be fair, Greg got it for me me. I want to be completely honest.
Starting point is 02:18:26 Yeah, constantly having to. I have like, I have like seven, I have like seven roadcasters now. I know it's retarded. A few more. You're close to the same amount of baby oil that Diddy has. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Diddy had a thousand bottles of Diddy oil and I had a thousand road casters. Same, same, the difference. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:51 Haley, do we own any baby oil? Don't you need that like to get tar? Like I think in college people used to have baby oil to get tar off their feet from the beach. Oh yeah, we just do it. You ever use, Gabe, you ever use baby oil? Baby oil? Yeah, for like... No, not to my knowledge.
Starting point is 02:19:14 Oh, okay. Make sure you see him come back into the house. Yeah, I didn't ever use any baby... I don't think I've ever owned a bottle of baby oil. I mean, I have no idea what it's used for, like on babies themselves, but it's one of those things I don't think I'd ever use even on my kid. I think baby oil, if I remember correctly,
Starting point is 02:19:36 was supposed to be for, yeah, your nipples are hard. You look good. My wife's going to work out. God, your butt looks crazy in those. Thank you. I thought you'd never compliment me like that. It's like your butt's going pow right now. I think baby oil, women put it on their skin
Starting point is 02:19:56 when they sunbathe or something. It's supposed to tan you faster or something. I think you get burned quicker. I'm pretty sure that's the... Yeah, or burnt quicker? Yeah, I guess. I don't know. I guess, I don't know. I just don't know.
Starting point is 02:20:16 I wonder if actually the real use of it is just anal. Probably. Yeah. You know, you know who was really, really cool this weekend? Who I got actual time to talk to? Who? Someone wants to see your ass. Oh, my wife says, no, sorry, Brianna.
Starting point is 02:20:40 It's like bulbous. She got like a black girl's ass, like not one of those really wide ones, but the one like You could set a glass of water on it from the back. Oh, where did you get to talk to Sarah? Oh, yeah, that's cool. Yeah, she actually had a lot of nice things to say about to you, too She said you made her shit really easy. Now. My wife's feeling her ass to see if it's like sticking out. Oh Yeah, yeah, thank you for doing that how did the shirt giveaway go good Nice oh and she gave me darn it today. I was gonna wear my new vindicate. She gave me she had a shirt that Travis gave her a blue one
Starting point is 02:21:25 Did you give her that to give to me? Yeah, yeah Leave that door open, please. Thank you. Just until the boys get in Yeah, and he sent an Olakai CEO shirt God, I was so happy to see on your luck I in a CEO shirt. What a stud Yeah, isn't he he's fucking crazy looking Hey, he actually looks like a professional athlete. I mean, whatever that means. Like he belongs in a Nike ad or something.
Starting point is 02:22:10 Yeah, he's got like that personality and just like that aura of him. Yeah, he got a little Allen Iverson in him. With the cornrows, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Just gangster. And he kind of transcends all ethnicities. Like if someone told you that was a black guy, you'd be like, okay. I don't know about that one. I do. I mean, shit, I thought Brianna was black. Who's Brianna? The girl who's... No facts.
Starting point is 02:22:26 Brianna's the girl who's about to go on a trip to date an NFL player for four days that she's never met. Oh, nice. Yeah, isn't that crazy? Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, I'm not saying that she's a black guy. I mean, she's a black guy. I mean, she's a black guy.
Starting point is 02:22:42 I mean, she's a black guy. I mean, she's a black guy. I mean, she's a black guy. I mean, she's a black guy. I mean, she's a black guy. I mean, she's a black guy for four days that she's never met. Oh, nice. Yeah, isn't that crazy? To be young, to be young once again. Yeah, what a fun life. If California was in California, I fell in love with Huntington Beach.
Starting point is 02:23:01 Oh yeah, yeah, it's a good spot. Dude, if California California wasn't so... Hey dude you should... It would be so dope to live there. Dude Newport is like even better than way better than Huntington Beach you wouldn't even believe it here it's so awesome. That's what everyone is saying for the South Eagle and the Doverighets, just Laguna, Newport, San Diego. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. And Malibu is pretty awesome, too. The people are kind of weird, but Malibu is pretty damn nice, too. The problem with Malibu is it's just north of L.A.
Starting point is 02:23:37 So if you live there, you basically want your whole life to exist there, because if you try to go south, the traffic is like beyond. It's horrible. It's a horrible life if you have to drive to LA yeah i mean traffic was was fairly bad it was a little misty and overcast and we were there and oh and the sleep of the airport that was fun that was that was awesome coming back from a lot of blues trying to get back to my kid and having to spend an important which wait what city oh yeah it was fun it was it was but it was cool i mean the whole event was really cool i knew that i know that you were going to be there so that was a little bummer but it got
Starting point is 02:24:23 it was cool the the event got rave reviews. I haven't seen the buttery bros video, but it sounds like they liked it. It sounded like a Hiller liked it from watching it. I didn't, I didn't see much of it. I heard, I probably watched like an hour of it. And I heard who's the super hot Australian athlete, like mega beef.
Starting point is 02:24:43 Yeah. I heard Gracie Walton was there, but I didn't, in any of the footage i saw i never saw her solo um or you know she was the spotlight type thing but she was she was there everything was her boyfriend there was dane there too her boyfriend's cool as No, no, I don't think even Zara saw him. Never saw him. But the whole event was really, really cool. It was the only feedback that maybe did the athlete stuff, the elite athlete, a little bit earlier, so more people were there.
Starting point is 02:25:18 It was packed the whole weekend. It didn't translate to the stream, but it was extremely, extremely packed all weekend. So it was good for you as a vendor. You had a good time. It was good. Yeah. Dylan always takes care of me. So we shouldn't be trading for that a lot.
Starting point is 02:25:36 And yeah, we just get to meet the people, hang out with you guys in person and all that. And that's really, that's really cool. You know, I'm good to put faces to the people that buy the coffee and are at the comments or in the comments That's always a good time. That's why we do these things Make a lot of money going to these events as long as I can break even and just hang out with people. It's It's worth it. Oh, that's cool Well awesome
Starting point is 02:26:02 It's worth it. Oh, that's cool Well awesome Oh Seriously, hey, so people if people do people need to if they do subscriptions today, do they get grandfathered in? There's a port strike coming up next month, so that's going to be fun to deal with. Meaning your beans coming from foreign countries will be, could have some issues? Oh yeah, they'll come from foreign countries. Wow. Okay, listen guys, Paper Street Coffee, PAPERST coffee. You have to get your order in today. And if you're smart, you'll also subscribe and hopefully get grandfathered in, depending on how this port strike affects coffee bean sales.
Starting point is 02:26:58 Hey, are we going to notice that countrywide coffee sales prices go up? Oh, yeah. I'm surprised you haven't noticed it already. Yeah, oh, 1000%. Well, I only drink, I just drink at home. I just do paper street coffee, so I don't notice anything. I mean, we, I mean, shit. I'm sorry. Well, you were trapped at the airport in LAX. You got to do what you got to do. Just mud water. It was crazy. You'll see prices and a bunch of things go up in a few months if this thing doesn't get figured out.
Starting point is 02:27:38 You can hear the story of one container ship got hit with some missiles from Jordan, right? That's a bizarre story it's crazy what makes it more bizarre was Damn was, oh man, the coffee okay? And then he goes, yeah, yeah, the people are okay. I was like, oh yes, yes, you're right, there's people on that boat. Damn. And he'd be conscious about that. Damn. Hey, I ain't hating, you're singularly focused. Yeah, but we're, well, hopefully we can catch you guys and uh, I know that we're, me and you are doing something for the holiday season with Kale Taylor. Yes, yes, yes, totally. Alright, I'm not going to crash, certainly I'm going to take care of the whole airport fiasco. I'm staying home. Okay, understood.
Starting point is 02:28:36 Sorry for the homies that crash. Yep. Hopefully in Miami. Alright dude, awesome. Good to hear from you. Alright, I'll talk to you. Okay, thanks for calling Bye. Oh
Starting point is 02:28:47 God, I hate holding the phone like that I'm holding it like that because it so that it goes into the mouthpiece the audio sevi If you had to give another man a handjob would you do your best so it would end sooner or do terrible so you do enjoy it less I don't know. I'd be great at it though, I ain't gonna lie Absolutely amazing There was something in here I wanted to read that Brianna wrote Where is it? Oh
Starting point is 02:29:24 My DNA test says I am a rockin Nigerian Tunisian and Zimbabwean. wrote. Where is it? Oh, my DNA test says I am Moroccan, Nigerian, Tunisian, and Zimbabwean. Yep, I knew it. There you go. No, I think the texture of my hair, I think the coarseness of my hair, something is changing in my hair. I'm like, maybe I'm going bald or something. Look it, there's a bald spot. I don't know what's going on. Look it, there's a bald spot right here. I don't know what's going on with my hair. When I left the house, my wife wife's like I have some like hair wax and
Starting point is 02:30:08 I and I don't use it very often, but I use it like if I'm going somewhere to be in public And my wife asked me if she should bring it and I said no and yesterday I look like this at the event in Malibu Maybe I'll go get a haircut today It feels pretty thick in the back. It's pretty crazy in the back still. At the top something just feels different. I don't know what's going on. Lost myself at a ditty party. That's Jeff Burchill's favorite line. That's Jeff Burchill's favorite line. Yes! Uh, Dina Martina Sebu, we also saw Don fall at water.
Starting point is 02:30:49 The plushies were so cool this past weekend. He was very chill, nice to all. Yes, he is very nice. Very good, very kind gentleman. We also enjoyed some paper street coffee all weekend. Fantastic. Oh my gosh, your hair is amazing. My hair is amazing, right?
Starting point is 02:31:04 It's ugly oh Ouch You like that shit You like you think I should shave my head you like it better? I like it foofy and I like it like that. I'm a change. I'm a little bit. Okay. I wanted to show you guys this before I was so rudely interrupted. Okay.
Starting point is 02:31:35 You guys ready? I'm so ahead of my time. I'm so ahead of my time. I'm so ahead of my time. This is from a 1969 a show called Star Trek Excuse me Captain Kood. Yes, sir. Mr. Scott the charming negros. Oh Forgive me my dear. I know that in my time, some use that term as a description of property. But why should I object to that term, sir? See, in our century, we've learned not to fear words.
Starting point is 02:32:14 May I present our communications officer, Lieutenant Lahour? The foolishness of my century had me apologizing where no offense was given. We've each learned to be delighted with what we are. Now, this is crazy. First of all, I've never heard that word negros. Negres. It's probably Spanish, Latin. All that you have to understand, you have to understand that anyone policing these words and demanding that people get offended, they are the people, they're the Gestapo of the plantation. I've said this more on this podcast than any other thought. Just imagine having a baby and there being a word for them, waiting for them as they come out of the mother's vagina on the planet Earth.
Starting point is 02:33:20 And there's a word that the whole society is going to demand That offends them the rest of their life Why would you want to participate in that? especially if especially like if especially if you're My wife's calling hello Hi, I'm still in the air What's up? Oh, yeah obvious here. Yeah Why like imagine imagine being a Jewish parent and Demanding that your word be offended by kike imagine being a black person
Starting point is 02:34:11 And so every time you're offended by it you're demanding it's like it's like putting a shackle around your neck. It's fucking crazy That's me Excuse me Captain Kurt. Yes, Mr. Scott the charming neighbors. Oh Forgive me my dear. I know that in my time some use that term as a description of property See an our century we've learned not to fear words It's it's not even the thing is is she says we've learned not to fear words. It's not that. The word isn't inherently offensive. It's that other people were taught, not learned, but taught to be offended. And then when it says interesting take on offensive language circa 1969, It's not a take.
Starting point is 02:35:08 It's just an opinion. Listen, it's an opinion that that word is offensive. It's a fact that it's not. It's an opinion that racial slurs are offensive. It's a fact that they are not. And then that's off also because you could say the word and mean it to be offensive. You could say the word and mean it to be offensive. But that's irrelevant to... That's... Irrelevant's a little strong. But each of us is capable of creating our own reality when it comes to whether we're going to be offended or not, around that aspect of being offended. Oh, forgive me, my dear. I know that in my time, some use that term as a description of property.
Starting point is 02:36:30 But why should I object to that term, sir? See, in our century, we've learned not to fear words. May I present our communications officer, Lieutenant Lahour. The foolishness of my century. God, how hot is she? Well, what do you want? What do you want? What is so important that you need to speak to me while I'm doing a podcast? Yes, yeah, I don't think that that's worth interrupting the podcast though. You're welcome. All right, He's trying. Someone almost had to get an ask-whip. Hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 02:37:09 That was Abraham Lincoln. That's like, I'm assuming that like they got Abraham Lincoln from a time machine or something. What is, what, what, what, what could be important? Okay, not sorry. Okay. Enjoy your life without me. Soon I will be all over you guys like a fly on shit. Because you're my sons and soon as I get off the podcast I'm gonna like be all over you.
Starting point is 02:37:40 Anyway, great. Isn't that amazing? Why demand people? Why would you demand? Anyone you care about to be offended by anything? Patrick Lang, this video is for you,. You around Patty? Patty-poo? This weekend Pat took his family to a gathering See some dancers. These are all little kids. Wasn't Russell Burger just talking about how impressionable little girls are? This is the man dressed as a woman, dancing seductively in front of little kids and undressing. I am absolutely done. What the fuck is going on. How many MAGA supporters do you think are in that crowd? I think those are all Kamala voters. Did Pat say who he's voting for? Judy Reid, Pat will say it's AI.
Starting point is 02:39:24 All right, I'll see you guys tonight. Thanks for hanging out. Fun show. Always great for Russell Burger to pop in. He's a great dude. See you guys soon. If you're in Newport Beach and you want to buy me a drink, let me know. You guys want to see some exclusive footage of Mason Mitchell?
Starting point is 02:40:02 Exclusive Mason Mitchell footage. Here we go. Exclusive Mason Mitchell footage. Here we go. I've seen that before in real life. I was at a bike race in Santa Barbara one time. I didn't even know I was going to a bike race. I was at a coffee shop and I saw something worse than that. It was amazing. Bike accidents are absolutely amazing.
Starting point is 02:40:50 Absolutely amazing. And one final note. I know I keep telling you guys I'm going to leave. One final note. By the way, Mason Mitchell is OK. He's perfectly fine. This is what real leadership looks like. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:41:08 This is the moment when Dana had Theo's back. Yeah, because we had Robert Kennedy Jr. on and we had a company call or a couple of companies call after that and say, yeah, just stuff about him. We're not advertising. These types of advertisers like you guys need to take the episode down. What sponsors did Peloton was the Peloton. Yeah. What do they sell? Fucking bikes, the stationary down. What sponsors did it? Peloton was the... Peloton? Yeah. What do they sell fucking bikes? The stationary bikes? Yeah dude. Peloton sells stationary bikes and they got a
Starting point is 02:41:30 problem with Robert fucking Kennedy. Do we have pelotons in the gym? Are those peloton? We're getting rid of them. We're getting rid of the peloton. Pelotons are out of the gym. Whoever uses the most you fucking have been home with they can't use in here brother. I'm not bullshitting you. You can film us. My guys are going gonna take the pellet tons out of the gym Thanks, dude, at least you feel empowered honestly This is what I do this is them and on that note Fuck the PFAA and anyone who demanded Dave Castro step down You can get the fuck out and your next big competition will be crash or it'll be NorCal classic
Starting point is 02:42:06 And that's where you're sitting rot well fucking the other great athletes take over the fucking sport you bunch of fucking whiny pussies Love you guys Bye bye

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