The Sloppy Boys - 109. Vieux Carré

Episode Date: November 18, 2022

The guys stir up an "unforgettable" from New Orleans' French Quarter.VIEUX CARRÉ RECIPE1oz/30ml Rye Whiskey1oz/30ml Cognac1oz/30ml Sweet Vermouth1 bar spoon Bénédictine2 dashes Peychaud's BittersPour all ingredients into a mixing glass with ice cubes. Stir well. Strain into a chilled cocktail glass. Garnish with orange zest and maraschino cherry.Recipe via the International Bartenders Association (https://www.iba-world.com/) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys, where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Geoff Dutton, along with Mike Hanford. And Negroni. Oh, wow. Spagliato. Ooh, stunning. With Prosecco in it. And, uh, Tim Kalpakis. What is up? Spagliato. Oh, stunning. With Prosecco in it. And Tim Kavakis?

What is up? Spagliato stylies? Mike, we didn't know anything about the Spagliato when it came up on the pod. We talked about you had nothing to offer. Now you're all Spagliato. I'm finally caught up on my memes. I'm sorry. I've been busy.

You dragged them all to a file? Yeah, my assistant gets them all ready for me week by week, and I just haven't hit it in a while. Yes. Negroni with Prosecco. My God. I saw that, and I said, oh, my heart's fluttering. Yeah.

I mean, you had a whole stash of memes to go through. It was probably overwhelming. The rest of us had all that stuff doled out over a week, you know? Yeah, yeah. It's boring when you watch all the memes right in a row because it's like, yeah, it's all the same shit. Oh, Timmy, easy, buddy boy, on that microphone. Oh, did I break your ears there? Once we're recording on your microphone you

cannot touch it you can't move a thing i'm gonna i'm gonna dodge the blame and put on you guys because you told me to tap my microphone and made me have to move my uh what do you call this pop filter my pop filter i had to put my pop filter so then i had to move my pop filter, so then I had to move my pop filter back. Uh-huh. Mike. Oh, great. Now the police are coming. He's gone off the deep end. He has gone off the deep end.

Somebody needs to give him a Negroni Spagliato with Prosecco in it. I thought that rather than rehashing the Negroni Spagliato with Prosecco. Rehash? He's hashing for the first time well it's a rehash for the listeners if we have any at this point this deep um no i wanted to say dude last week was a crazy episode and we um you know when we went nuts at uh with the sidewalk slammer we then had sort of done, we like recapped like, Hey folks, here's what happened. And then,

but this week we didn't last week with the lineup with Mike Mitchell, we didn't do that on the podcast, but, but, but I feel like the listeners should, you should hear about our atrocious hangovers. Sure. Terrible.

A day long. It's a terrible, the lineup. Yeah. A full day. Kind of the week long. It didn't, it didn't end for me that's uh you're still in it yeah yeah i haven't had that in a long time where it was like i'm not a big hangover guy uh i mean the movies of course but uh sure one two

usually if i if i'm really hungover i just you know it's just the next morning and then if it's something crazy, we can have a Bloody Mary and I'm fine. But this was a low, I never puked. I never had a headache, but I had a low, just unsettled feeling for three days. Something was amiss with my body. I had that thing where like,

you just feel like you have a dry mouth or something, or your chest is a little tighter. It's called dry mouth. Your lungs are a little bit like, hey, we need some real deal here. Yeah. Now, I would expect that, Mike, I would think you wouldn't have had as bad a hangover because you had a couple of technicolor yawns on the day. Yeah. So then you got some of the forbidden substance out of you.

I fell asleep. We were at Mitch's house. I fell asleep in Mitch's yard for a little while. Yeah, well, that's a nice clean grass. Well, I just went outside to get some fresh air and waiting for those pizzas to come back, to come back, to come by. And I laid down, and the next thing i know mitch said hey you gotta get out of here oh yeah yeah we were in the uber trying to reach you couldn't reach you right we

said and then tim and i said we just gotta go it's late mike's gotta deal with himself and then you did you walked home i dealt with it i soldiered through and you tweeted at 2 a.m yeah what was it was a good tweet oh yeah was it a good tweet? Oh yeah, it was a good tweet. Some of your best work. My Tesla is a messlet. It was a picture of a Tesla that hit a street light. Did Elon come after you for that one?

No, he did not. I did, but I did before I posted that. It was from a story where all the people in the car were okay. Oh, that's good. That's nice. Hey, one of the things that made that hangover worse, the unnecessary cracking of fresh bud lights

in the home stretch. Yeah. And then tequila shots on the roof. Did we discuss that? Yeah, you don't... We did like entourage-style rooftop tequila shots at the end of the night. Yeah, Mitch has got a nice roof, so it was nice to get up there and see the city. Mitch has got a nice cabo caboose I found that iPhone recording of our rooftop shots way later days later I was going through my phone and I found this recording oh yes yes

um it was you know Mike you mentioned the pizzas and that was and that was the travesty of the night. We finished the pod. We're hanging around. We're talking. We're drinking a little bit more. Mitch orders himself some Domino's pizza, right? He was being a gracious host, letting us record our podcast in his home. And then he thought, these three will move along, and I'll get to have a Domino's pizza.

But we lingered. We were longtime houseguests. we'll move along and i'll get to have a domino's pizza but we lingered we were uh long time house guests and then he was richard dreyfus and we were three little bill murray's he was like guys i got domino's pizza coming but it's for me and we said well i said well let us have some of your domino's because we're hungry i'll order more pizza yeah and um And I had had. Two more. You ordered two more pizzas. I've had some real bad luck in LA on like busy nights, you know, of Saturday. LA pizzas and shambles. A New York style pizza. Well, LA has the better pizza.

New York has worse pizza than LA. But anyway, back to my point. Yeah, I heard that before. I was like, this is an important important this is a high pressure pizza order and this pizza better arrive and i was putting it in pretty late on a busy night right and so i ordered from two places ordered from two places right because you thought i'm i'm not putting all my eggs in one basket not in this high pressure situation no no i was in a pressure cooker i was in the bullpen you ordered two you ordered two just assuming at least one would cancel i ordered slasher pizza knowing that it's very popular so then i also naming names i ordered

800 degrees thinking it was uh more of a safe bet um yeah they both neither ever arrived and and what is that like the the driver you think like it never went through or what what's going on one of one of them called and was like hey we don't have the ingredients you wanted but an hour had passed so i was like fuck off uh right and they hadn't like started making my my pizza after hour. Then the other one, the guy, this was a heartbreaker. The guy called me and then I go outside onto Mitch's street and I'm looking, I'm like, I don't see you. And he's like, yeah, I mean, I'm here to pick up the pizzas. And I was like, no, you're here to drop off the pizzas.

And he's like, no, I'm here to pick up the pizzas. And he thought that I was the restaurant and it was after midnight. Why would he think that? I don't know maybe i just have that vibe look here's the thing this this is midnight on halloween monday yeah and you just know everything's upside down topsy-turvy you're not getting those pies but it's funny that for the whole night three pizzas were ordered from three different destinations only one showed up and it was domino's the original kind of the original pizza delivery place domin right domino's is dominant in this case well

isn't that didn't they put like a lot more uh effort and stuff into their delivery like uh yeah because they started the 30 minutes or it's free didn't they yeah but i mean like recently where it wasn't like we're going to up our delivery game. Am I wrong about this? Maybe it's a different one. No, yeah. I mean, I don't know about how – because I was just telling you guys about that Business Wars podcast,

and they talked about how like historically Domino's was like, we're going to focus – delivery is our thing in the 30 minutes. They had to eventually stop the 30-minute rule because so many cars were crashing. But wait, so they were just like the pizza itself can suffer, but it will arrive on time. Is that their philosophy? I don't think they announced to the public that the pizza can suffer. But I will say more recently, I've heard I read a thing where like the CEO of Domino's like, you know how they they're innovating with like the app and the tracker and then the the delivery like the the the cars and stuff having the heat bags and all this stuff yeah yeah dominoes

they like think of themselves as a tech company they don't think of themselves as like a fast food company it's like yeah yeah we have pizzas but we're all about getting that away you can think of yourself however you want i think of us as a tech company. How about that? Yeah. I bet that technology they used for the pizza tracker is what all the Postmates and the Grubhubs and everybody use now.

Sure. Because you can see it on its way. Yeah. You know, we're not a tech company, Jeff, but you know what we've realized is really we do a lot and we're wonderful guys.

Sure. And we're artists. But really what we are is a small t-shirt business. Right. You're not kidding. We essentially sell t-shirts. Everything else we do is sort of making a splash for our t-shirt sales. It's promotion for the t-shirts.

We're fashion guys. That's what they tell bands is like, that's cute. You make music and blah, blah, blah. But here's what you are. You sell t-shirts. Everything you do is designed to funnel down to people buying your shirts. And folks, if you want to support this pod, support this band, you got to get that little ass over to the sloppy boys.com. Hell yeah.

The new web store is launched and you got to get in now. And it's not just a web store. It's a website. You can look at all different items you can purchase yeah that website are you you think that's the sexier topic website yeah oh hey we now have a website oh yeah oh you http you know the internet can feel sort of overwhelming but we have a site where you can settle in and relax. Make it your homepage. Make it your only page.

Yep. Yep. Yep. Well, what do you say we get into a little booze news? Sure. Hit it. I would love somebody out there who's a classical person. Make a classical person.

Your booze news. Front of the line pass. Ooh. Oh. That's us singing? That's me. Oh, some wubs. Wub, wub, wub. It's Booze News, you classical kids.

On the rickety-gillow, I live in number one Nickelodeon. That classical booze news theme was sent to us by King Kang the Kang or Eric Kang. And if you have a booze news theme, email it to the sloppy boys podcast at gmail.com. Mike, when you when you request, you solicited classical themes. Did you ever think one would actually get sent in? No, I never thought it won't get sent in. And, you know, Kang is a classic Booze News theme maker. But, boy, I was really hoping just for some strings.

No wub wub, no techno. Look, that was a chilled out, what do you call that, Jeff? What's that type of music? Oh, I don't know. Maybe a little dubstep style. Yeah. The stuff that's very chilled out. So you're saying it doesn't count.

I, as the guy who picks the Booze News team, should have emailed it back to Kanger and said, pick this shit out of there. On a technicality, this shall not play. This is good. This is good because now people know what not to do. Listen very carefully to Mike Hanford's requests. No, I didn't know that classical song. Did you guys?

I was picturing, I was thinking classical music. This is going to be like... Give me some Looney Tunes. Yeah, I knew it. I knew it. You knew it? Yeah. I used to wake up to that song on my alarm.

That was a nice song. God, I always thought that would be like the funniest thing. And then I would do it for a little while. I used to wake up to that song on my alarm. That was a nice thing. God, I always thought that would be the funniest thing, and then I would do it for a little while. I was like, this sucks. Hearing that, it's not funny in the morning. It's never funny anymore. What about this one? Oh, that's the one.

That's the one I had. That's the other morning one. Yeah. That's how I woke up after the lineup. Without the alarm. One of those is William Tell Overture. I think up after the lineup. Without the alarm. One of those is William Tell Overture. I think that's the beginning of it. No, no, no.

William Tell, that apple-headed freak. You know what's a good one? The 1812 Overture. When it gets to the end there and they're shooting the cannons off. Woo. Woo. Woo-wee! No, Kanger, that was a good one.

Thanks for bringing it up and bringing it in. And if you have a booze news theme, please send it to Tim. Help me out, dude. I don't listen to this part of the pod. We already covered that. Let's get into the booze news here, folks. Now, Mike, you're a little behind on the memes. You just heard about the uh

negroni spagliato with prosecco but maybe you came across this and jeff i feel like you're pretty social media savvy i'm guessing you saw this i'm there's a viral tweet that got everybody talking about beer and this was fascinating to me i'm texting you the tweet on the chain right now did you see this little beer chart it's a little continuum of um conservative to liberal okay so a guy named brent brentington on twitter made this little beer chart uh with an x and y axis and he placed beers on this chart from liberal to conservative and from working class to elite. And dead in the middle of all of them is Miller Lite. Yeah, that's pretty good. I could see that.

That rings true to me. But then looking around, I would say all of these placements did feel insightful to me, but i never really thought about beer as a political thing before right i i more thought of it as the elitist working class thing but i guess that can can uh just price right right right here's what really got me if you go into the corners uh and you see what's being like the extreme versions i this i never really thought about it but mickalob ultra is ranked as elitist and conservative here and i think that's very true because it's such a golf course beer you know like yeah rich politician type guys out on the links with their can of mick ultra right versus the elitist on the other side on the liberal you

have your voodoo ranger ipa and your log yeah ipa and those do sort of feel like yeah not like a $14 six pack yeah it's like a $14 hipster uh expensive beer i've never heard of paradise park me neither that's kind of a weird one. Yeah. But I gotta say, I'm more on the liberal working class side. The Miller Highlives, the Budweiser's. Pabst. Pabst, yeah. Budweiser's right in the middle there on the working class line. It's working class and it's teetering a little more conservative than liberal.

Yeah. And then in the extremely conservative and working class, you have Bush. Which I've never come across a Bush in the wild in like 10 years. Yeah, that was college beer for us. I grew up drinking Bush, but they have recently switched to a camouflage pack. Oh, yeah. That's where that's coming from. Interesting.

Interesting. Well, you know, I drink beers from all around the political spectrum here, and I'm hoping to cross the aisle as we settle into the new terms. Mike, you probably of these drink Miller High Life the most, and that's working class liberal, right? Probably, yeah. I love it. That's a good one. Budweiser, but I've kind of tended more towards the High Life.

So what about you guys? Where do you land? Sheesh. I order Bud out at bars a lot, but none of these really make it into my home anymore. I don't drink too much beer at home. Yeah, that's true. Bud Light Bottle for me. Bud Light Bottle at a, you know, you saw me drain a couple of those at Rustic.

Sure, sure. And then if I can get a High Life, you know I'm doing it. And if I can get a little Spag spaghetti in there, that's even better. Hey. You know what I get probably above all these is a Negroni Spagliato. Oh, God. Here we go. I'm caught up.

This is interesting, though. You know what? Hey, can I get a... Can we... How do you feel, Tim? Do you think you've covered this area of booze news? Absolutely. I, something just came to me. It works well. I just saw something, some article that was talking about how beer,

cocktails are like surpassing beer like huge these days. I get that. Beer is becoming not a big, I guess, moneymaker anymore. And the thing this article was saying was like, if you go onto the Bud Light website, it doesn't even seem like a beer company anymore. It's all Bud Light seltzer stuff. Really?

Yeah. And the big thing is, the reason that they claimed, was because you can get cocktails to go in cans and stuff, and you can get stuff delivered easier. Before, it was like you go to the corner store, and it's like, oh, they got beers here, but they don't have vodka and all that other stuff. And if you like cocktails, they now have cans that you can take with you. I mean, I've been hanging out with people out in the world from all walks of life. And the amount of times I hear,

oh, I just don't want beer, is constant. Yeah, and that's probably mostly from me. Mookie, that guy never wants beers. Tim never wants beers. No, two filling. I want one beer. Two filling. I think I get beers, I think,

mostly because I'm like, oh, there's so much shit. I also think I get drunker on, quickly on cocktails. I downshift to beer. I'll do a couple fun like, oh, there's so much shit. I also think I get drunker on, quickly on cocktails. I downshift to beer. I'll do a couple fun cocktails, fun tikis, and then I'm like,

I can't keep drinking at this rate. These strong spirits. And so I downshift to beer. I reject these strong spirits. Spagliato. Beer's all right. They overdid it. They got too fancy. Spogliato Beers already They overdid it They got too fancy

Too many bars have a huge beer list You should only just have one beer And that's that And there you have it Duff Well is that it for Booze News? Wrap it up Are we up to date on all the newest

Rap it and crap it means the events all right great okay the drink of the day uh it has a french name and i've always seen this name and i've never been 100 confident on my pronunciation of it but you have a little canadian running through your blood. So I think you're the man for the job. Yes. But I don't want to misfire and shame my family.

So on this show, when we have questions about how to pronounce a word, we know exactly where to go. Hit it. Bonjour. This is Julian, the Frenchman, who makes French pronunciation videos here on YouTube. And we are looking at how to pronounce this French phrase meaning the old square or old square. So how do you go about pronouncing this?

In French, in France, we would say it as vieux, silent x, vieux, carré, vieux, carré. But it'd be fine in English to say it as vieux carré, vieux carré. Vieux carré from French, vieux carré. Did you get this? Was this any helpful? Let me know in the comments. Don't forget to give it a like if you did like it. And I'll see you there to learn more about some useful French phrases

and words that you may want to hear and nail the pronunciation of. Can we talk about this guy just for two seconds? The way that he teases it when he's like, and the word is coming up and you're about to hear the word. I like how the end, once he's done with it, he's like,

that is the word, if you can like and comment. He turns right into the business part. He's trying to hit a minute. He could have just said, view caray. No, he's got to get that monetization. That opening where he's like, it sounds like he's just going up and up on the scale. Like, hello and welcome to the thing that we're talking about. And I'm going up.

Yeah. View caray. View caray. So it's view caray. View caray. The old square. It almost sounds like one word when people say it's view caray view caray the old square almost sounds like one word when people say view caray the old square which is what they called the french quarter people actually there we call the french quarter but i think that if they were saying like that would be like us saying like hey i'm going to the American store. It's like, you know, it's redundant. Yes. Yes. So, oh, I haven't told you the place yet.

Here it comes. The history. Oh, wait. So you guys heard or had anything? No. No and no. I've never had, but I've seen it in a lot of cocktails. I'm going in fresh. Mind blank.

I went out with a bunch of. You're going to have mind balloon in a second. You know that emoji that's like mind blown? That's going to be yeet. That's good. The historic Hotel Monteleone in New Orleans, Louisiana. I mean, Tennessee Williams, William Faulkner, Truman Cahody, Tim Kalpakis. These are just a few of the great writers who have graced the halls there

um hemingway mentioned it uh in the night before battle uh uh tennessee williams mentioned it in the rose tattoo capote his mom was living there when she was pregnant with him and then she went to the hospital had the baby came home there and he was a baby at this very famous he was a baby there short said it was a baby there well you're probably thinking oh he eats breakfast at tiffany's every goddamn day um this i i went there on my 17 mile saunter that i told you guys about in a yes hurricane episode the epic stroll yes the epic stroll and this is the um the fucking carousel bar right it's a revolving bar that takes 15 16 minutes to to do one lap and it's kind of fun to be like oh i'll drink one round uh around that time so when i went there i was like i want to drink something new orleansy and i drank a sazerak little did i know that that bar is where they

invented the view get a and um some fake out i always thought you know you probably might have been thinking it's a french drink but it's a new orleans drink yeah i was thinking what rue did they invent that one on my Mike? Yeah, what Aaron D's mall am I going to find this one? Yeah, what Sienne was nearby? Yeah, yeah. What Eiffel? In what shape was the Eiffel nearby?

A tower shape. A tower shape. Anytime you go to a city, you always ask around, what kind of Eiffel you got here? What Eiffel you have around here? In Seattle, they say, oh, it's a Space Needle Eiffel. All right, all right. Checks out pretty fucking lit.

On the Comedy Bang Bang IFC show, there was like a running joke in the writer's room, I don't think ever actually made it to the series, about the Eiffel Tower Hour, that every French people are always watching a TV show called the Eiffel Tower Hour. every French people are always watching a TV show called the Eiffel Tower Hour. And Americans are like, oh, great. Could you finish up watching that?

Anyway, back to the drink. Yeah, head bartender Walter Bergeron invented this in the 30s. It's a split-base cocktail, cognac and rye. And we talked about it in our Sazerac episode. There was a little bit of a debate of like, you should make it with rye or cognac. it started one way went the other here's a drink with fucking both of them um and i've seen old episodes episodes recipes i've seen old recipes of this

drink that have both pay shows bitters and angostura bitters which is weird but the iba split base split bitters split base but bitter. The IBA. Split-base split bitters? Split-base split bitter? This kind of reminds me of that movie Split. Does it, Tim? It reminds you of the movie Split. No, I lied for comedic effect! Uh-oh, I can't

be funny on my own pod. And guess what? It worked. Would you guys like to hear the recipe for this elegant stirred New Orleans-y cocktail? Pour faire vous, farfait. Yes. Si vous play, yes.

Yes. IBA says one ounce of rye whiskey, 30 milliliters, one ounce of cognac, 30 milliliters, one ounce of sweet vermouth, 30 milliliters, one bar spoon Benedictine. Who's got it? I got it. Boom. Tim, you left it out for me on your doorstep in a nice little bottle.

It couldn't be more appreciative. A cute little bottle it couldn't be more appreciative a cute little bottle huh um i bought this benedictine because we did the singapore sling and then we later used benedictine in the monte carlo yes yes yes after that we're gonna do two dashes of payshodes bitters which is a very famous bitters because it's in my southern sipper cocktail method pour all ingredients into a mixing glass with cubes strain into a chilled cocktail glass garnish with orange zest and maraschino cherry tim you touched you touched my i thought the world was ending over there do i gotta pick up a word no no no no you gotta pick up my fucking eardrums off the floor your eardrums off the floor.

Your eardrums didn't break, but they fell out. Now, Timmy, looking at this menu, looking at this recipe, we do not have the right word for recipe today. This is crazy. Let's decide. Should we say menu or episode? What would we want to say recipe? Huh?

What did I say? You said menu and I said episode. Tim said episode earlier. You said menu. Oh, okay. We haven't even had the Vieux Caron yet. Vieux Caron. Caron. I'm looking at this and I think this looks like nothing more than a glorified Manhattan.

Mm-hmm. Okay. A cognified Manhattan. Mm-hmm. Okay, a cognac Manhattan. Because it's got the whiskey, the vermouth, and bitters. I guess the Benedictine's sneaking in there. Sure, but it could be better than a Manhattan, because cognac is delicious.

Mm, of course. I've got a Hennessy myself. Have you even thought of that, Jefferson? Before you go running your mouth all over the pod? I do think of these things, yes. You know how somebody, they like cakes and candies, they call themselves a sweet tooth? If someone has a penchant for vermouth,

they always say, I'm a vermouth tooth. Yeah? Yes, yes. You wouldn't hear it much because it is a dastardly drink. Nobody likes it. Are we doing vermouth month? It seems like... Ben do it. Yeah, it seems like we're Vermouth Month? It seems like... Ben doing it.

Yeah, it seems like we're always kind of doing Vermouth Month around here. Around here? What would the episodes and menus we fall into? Oh, God. Tim, you have a sweet vermouth you like. Spill the beans. Name it. Antigua Carpano.

And I'm over here with Nuali Pratt? I forgot what the fuck mine is. It's Dolan, I think. Dolan. That's good. Dolan brand sweet vermouth. Get your vermouth a little sweeter. Mouth me, baby.

Mouth me. Put this mouth in your mouth. Wait, hold on. Put this mooth in your mouth wait hold on put this mooth in your mouth okay let's go let's get moothed mooth this alright folks we'll be right back

did you say the full thing the hmm did you say the full recipe with the the orange and everything yes

garnish with orange zest and maraschino cherry had you not said? I can't remember. Oh, I touched my microphone and you were... Oh, it was during that part. I lost interest. Well, folks, we're going to go stir these up.

And when we come back, we'll have a little Vucaray in hand. Yes. When we come back, we will be drinking the drink. And the drink is called a certain name and it is, if you guy. For a limited time, switch to Shopify point of sale and you could save up to 20%

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I spilled mine. Can I be honest? I already fucked it up. How? I shook. I shook. I should have stirred. I shook.

It's supposed to be a smooth, viscous drink. Well, I woke it up. Look at that. Classic. Not bad, Mike. Classic looking cocktail. Looks like a Manhattan. I made two huge

mistakes making this. At first, I'm making it, I'm kind of looking at the recipe, and I put an ounce of Benedictine in it. Oh, it is. Start over.

It's like the third thing I put in, so I start over. Made it correctly. Then, as I'm bringing it over, I got it in a martini glass here. What do I do but spill it? A lot of it all over the place. A lot of it. It's a sticky drink, and if you've spent any amount of time with me, you know I do not like to be sticky.

I don't like the feeling. You like to be slick. I like to be dry. Not slick. Not slick. Slick. If I'm slick, something's wrong. Mike, celebrity bartender Jack Schramm told us always add your most expensive. Most expensive last.

Because if you chuck it. So you did well. You did well. Most expensive last. Because if you chuck it. So you did well. You did well. Most expensive last. I don't know. There was already some stuff in there. But did you throw it out or did you? Yeah, because it was way too much Benedictine.

Well, I would put that in the fridge, personally. Yeah, that could be a little cheaper. Yeah, but it was mixed with rye and something else, too. Is that so bad? Sounds delicious. All right, let's do six. I guess it's not so bad. I probably could have...

Yeah, well, you know what? It's down the sink now. There are worse things. I was going to say, flustered and frustrated. Oh, look at that, Jeff. Yeah, thanks. Frustrated, come on. Here we go.

Sips. Oh, wow. Fancy Manhattan? Oh, wow. Fancy Manhattan? Oh, yes. That is very nice. Smooth. And Tim, you got an orange there. I see it.

No sneaking it by me. I don't. I have a cherry, but the toothpick is orange, and it kind of makes you think. And Mike, no orange for you, huh? I got an orange peel in there. Did you express it? Expressed it. I ran the rim, and I dunked it.

Oh, nice. A thorough expression. I'll tell you another reason I might be really liking this, because if you guys are saying it's like Manhattan, I wouldn't like that. But the cognac I had was Quatro. So it has orange in it.

You mean Grand Marnier? Grand Marnier, that's right. But that's not cognac. He said one thing, he said a different thing, and he said, that's right. Yeah. That is cognac. It's cognac with orange liqueur.

Okay. Yeah, so yours is going to be sweeter than ours. That's got a little sugary kick to it. Yeah, I thought I had cognac, and then when I looked at it, I was like, oh, it's Grand Marnier. Oh, Grand Marnier does, yeah. Does have cognac in it. Yeah.

Hey, what's... Oh, no, I'm thinking of Drambu. That's a nice sweet drink. But it's got no place in this conversation. But it does, Jeff, because I get Drambu, what I just talked, Grand Marnier. And what's the thing, Tim, you like to put on ice cream? Hennessy? DiSorono.

DiSorono. I get the three of those. Those are in the same brain space for me. I feel like Grand Marnier is pretty popular because it's added to like Cadillac margaritas And souffles Yeah And hey, Cointreau The love of Cointreau too

Yeah Cointreau feels like The orange in there is really bumping up your Your taste profile To make it something delicious. Taste profile is something that like foodie people say where you're like, you could just say taste. I have no idea what it means. Yeah. You could just say taste, but then you say taste profile and I'm like, oh.

Oh, hell. This taste profile sucks. This taste profile is like shit. Yeah, this has a taste profile of St. Bernard excrement. Mike, dog shit. Yep, yep. This is good, man. Why is this... This tastes very appropriately autumnal.

It does. Why? This tastes very appropriately autumnal. Mmm. It does. Why? It's got the autumnal look, too. It's sort of a brown. A brown, sort of a maple syrup look. Like a fall turd. Yeah, like a fall turd. A turd fallen.

A big old lump of autumn turd. I mean, is there anything that's brown but isn't autumnal? Can you think of even one thing that if you saw it and it was brown, you wouldn't say, hey, fall is here. Chicken nugget. I'd have to say okay, chicken, I would say the UPS group.

Okay. Because I see those guys in the summer and I'm not thinking, we still got to start getting the rakes out. Remember when UPS guys in the summer and i'm not thinking we still gotta start getting the rakes out remember when ups they their whole they changed their tagline to what what can brown do for you yeah hopefully not much did they know when they started calling themselves brown i know is it possible they thought that was cool or were they trolling? And it doesn't matter. I know. They got us talking. We're talking about it on the pods. They're getting free publicity.

They ain't paying us for an ad read. Looking brown, dude, for you. People shouldn't refer to themselves as a color. That's strange. But you guys know I back the blue, right? Wait, what? I back the blue. The police?

Yeah Oh, jeez Oh, Jefferson Law enforcement? Uh-huh Uh-huh I think now you're trolling Yeah, I'm trolling Let's talk about the taste

Wait I have something to say Okay Well, then out with it, my boy Tis the most perfect format indeed for speech, the podcast. Oh, what a drink we have, my boys. Yeah, this is the perfect medium for me sharing what I have to say. Remember this summer I went to Louisville, Kentucky, right?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Lawville. Lawville. Law. And I had a little bit of a culture clash moment there were me and my high school friends were doing a little trip and then we went we were like the night the first night we were there we're like let's go out to a bar and we went to what is the equivalent of like

universal city walk you know like a very uh corporate set of bars and there was a place called like pbr louisville or something and i i don't know if it's owned by papst or what because perhaps is not headquartered there but anyway it's this big bar and it's saturday night and it's a club scene but because it's kentucky it was kind of um cowboyish. I want to say there was a mechanical bull. I don't know if that's... Yes, there was a mechanical bull. And the bartender ladies were dressed kind of coyote ugly style. Nice. And

the music being played was like hip-hop and club music, but kind of dated, you know, like, to the window, to the wow. Yeah. To the sweat drips off my... Okay, let's keep going okay i don't need to get into that um the clientele was was kind of uh cowboyish but dancing uh to clubby music and then me and my friends are sort of watching. And then at 1240 a.m.

Peak Club Dance Floor popping off. Yeah. Did they announce the peak? Yes. Everybody stops. They start playing not the national anthem, but like a country song about America that was like, I love this country. Okay. about america that was like i love this country and uh everybody the the bartenders stood up on the bar and saluted and everybody stopped and they all looked up and they saluted a

blue lives matter flag for real interesting yes was that song it's like i'm proud to be an american it was like someone wanted to have that song for a new generation oh okay okay but um yeah there was an american flag and then next to it a blue lives matter and everybody stood there and they saluted and we it was like a whole three minuteminute song, and then everybody went back to, wow! Fascinating. Fascinating stuff. Fascinating. Is that, you know,

so you say like cowboys and stuff. Kentucky is southern, more southern than I am, but I don't consider them cowboys. Like I think of Texas as cowboys. Ohio. Oh, right, right. It's pretty northern. They don't do much cow wrangling.

Nah. Oh, you know what we should do? You brought up Universal CityWalk. Next time I'm in L.A., let's do a CityWalk bar crawl. Ooh, so you're talking Carl Strauss. You're talking the Hard Rock Cafe. That's right. And we do it maybe for a main.

We do it for a blowout. Who knows? Maybe a little Buca di Beppo. Ooh, that'd be nice. Does the Hard Rock Cafe have any of our guitars hung up on the wall? I brought a few over, and they said, get this crap out of here. This stuff belongs in a museum. We don't put Epiphones up here, man.

Hey. You don't. Yo, somebody's got some nasty mic stuff coming through. Is anybody feeling that? It's crackling. I hear it. Tim, you got to get a mic or a stand or something. What?

You want me to order a $1 thing on Amazon? Yes. We're in the age of Zoom. You're a professional podcaster and a musician. You need a microphone. Yeah, but I taped up the base of this one. Look, you taped. You did a great tape job all over that thing.

Months ago at your place. No, no, it's all good. It's good now. I'll tell you, I like this drink. I'm not normally a rye guy, but you put a little cognac in there. Come on. And the Benedictine, that's always welcome. And the Peychaud's, finally, finally, the Angosturas

can rest. They can have a day off. It's Peychaud day. We've done some Peychauds recently. Hopefully while the Angostura's resting, it can get its fucking label fitted on better. For Christ's sake, get Here's what I do.

I buy my Angostura bitters, I swing by the tailor, and I say, help this guy out, man. Can we hem the collar here? The nip tuck. Do you mean that like collar you're on the air? Wow.

Yeah, this is a good drink. Did we cover what I wanted to say? Yeah, the city walk, that's what I wanted to say, so go there. So you're happy. I'm happy. I guess the only other thing I wanted to bring up is are you guys watching

The White Lotus Season 2? No. I watched the first half of the first episode. I said, this is good, and then I sawed some logs the rest of the way. Damn. You know, Jeff, you got to be like me.

You got to get on a show right when it starts. Yeah, in this case. Because I didn't see season one. All right? I didn't see season one. Yeah. That's Jeff's worst nightmare is to be like you. He's got to do it?

He doesn't have to do it. But in this case, I think he should. But I was over at Neil and Fran's house, contest winner and pickleback enthusiast, Neil and Fran. Sure. And it was Sunday night. It was when I was in town. And I said, you know, I've never seen White Lotus. And they said, White Lotus 2 starts tonight.

Let's watch. They'd seen season one. You don't really need to see season one, I'm told. And I'm watching. I said, this is great. It's a nice. They shuffle up the characters, right? From one to two.

Like the actors are the same, but it's different or no? Actors are different. Except for a couple of them. But you're watching. And this is one. It happens very rarely that I'm watching the show that everyone's talking about. It happened with Squid Game and is happening now. Mike, don't sell yourself short.

You watch Succession, yes? That's true. I love that show. Week to week, that's fun. Week to week, that's what I'm saying. I haven't watched the show. Yeah, the rehearsal I did too. But that's, why do I think that's different? Maybe it's half hour comedy. So I'm,

I think I'd be watching that anyway. I think in this day and age, nobody feels like they're watching the same stuff as anyone. Cause there's too much shit. Yeah, that's true. There's too many shows. But it's fun.

It's fun to watch the show. Cause I, this is, it wouldn't be one, like the rehearsal would be one I would watch anyway. This is one I'm like, eh, I don't really know season one,

but I got on board. I did that. You know, I started watching She-, I don't really know season one, but I got on board. I did that, you know, I started watching She-Hulk too when it came out and I lost track. Here's what pisses me off. When I'm not watching a show,

I feel like people are talking about it. It's Monday morning and I got to sit through 45 minutes of bullshit. Everyone wants to talk about every last detail, don't they? And then, when I am watching the the show i feel like we're being so respectful about spoilers oh i haven't seen it you haven't

seen it oh i mustn't say anything yeah why is it nobody wants to discuss hemingway part seven with you at work that would be my dream oh i wish i lived in Paris in the 20s. Hey, you wouldn't be so far off with this drink. Stop. Ooh. Mike, this drink's from New Orleans. Stop. The drink of the day. The drink's from New Orleans from the 30s.

I know, but still, you call it, you know, square. Well, here's what I want to say is I watched the rehearsal, right? I love the rehearsal. I wanted to talk about it, and everyone's saying, I haven't seen that one yet. I never shut people up when i'm back you know how many conversations about house of dragon i have to sit through in my fucking shitty ass life yeah i'll just say this i wish i was dead and i'm not saying i'm not saying i'm going to kill myself. It's not suicidal ideation. I'm saying that I wish circumstances were to have me offed. You're not saying that you're going to kill yourself,

but you are sort of saying to me and Jeff, if we had any hand in it, you know, that I'm not doing that to you, buddy. I am not doing that. I was going to say, if you were to, that my will would handsomely reward you oh yeah great i get all the cocktail books and that pillow i see in the background yeah where who gets the big hamburger yeah that's you you gotta split the big hamburger wait uh that reminded

me maybe i mentioned this before on the podcast but when i first i got my first writing job and then i signed up for the wga and then I checked my benefits like real fat. You work up like pension points and all this shit. And like within the first month, I looked up my life insurance to see like, you know, I had barely racked up any points, but I was like, how am I doing? And I looked at it said that if I died because I hadn't worked out any of the particulars and I've since gotten married and stuff. But it's said that if I died, my dad would get 1500 bucks. And I just, I love the idea of like,

Mr. Kalpagas, you know, your son, well, he's dead, but here's, you can have a nice weekend trip. Go out to the Poconos, Dave. Yeah. In the tri-state area. You can buy the cheapest laptop at the Apple store. Not bad.

Yeah, no frills. Take a look at some porno. He's going to need his other kids to die for that. Apple care. Tim, let's get real. Let's get serious. Don't talk like that. We're not going to do that for you.

You're too close of a friend to me. I'll need you around, and I'm not going to do it. So you want me in your life. I don't know how Jeff feels. That's right. Yeah, I'm open to it. Yo. Let's peruse the will and then see what we're going to do. You guys are like books about autobiographies

from comedy writers. People who were on SNL for one season wrote a book from deep comedy writers. Every member of Monty Python? Alright, Tim. This sort of talk makes me want to hear about your final thoughts. Oh. On the drink.

Not your life. Not my last words. No, no, drink. Like my. Not your life. Not my last words. No, no, no. And not the last word, which is a delicious cocktail. This talk makes me want to take a break first. I want to take a little bit of a break, and then I want to do final thoughts. Oh, you don't want to do final thoughts in segment two? No.

Okay. Because I think it would throw the audience for a wild loop. That would be weird. You know what, folks? They'd say, hey, there's a new format over at the Sloppy Boys show. Oh, who cares? I care. Folks, we're going to take a little break, and when we come back, you know what it is.

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I knew as soon as my lips hit that first orangey, warm-tasting liqueur, I said, And you spilled it all over the couch, yeah. Yeah, I know. This drink is so good, I don't hate it once it spilled it all over the couch, yeah. Yeah, I know. This drink is so good, I don't hate it once it's spilled all over the counter. Okay, let me ask you, Mike. You seem pretty certain with your answer. You really love the drink. It's an order again.

Follow-up question. Are there any ifs, ands, or buts about it? No. Wow. Not happening. Not happening. Damn. Because I think we should keep a tally of ifs, ands, or buts. Yeah, usually we have a little bit of like, eh, or again, but, uh, different style. No, no, no.

With Hanford, it's final answer, dotting the I's and crossing the T's. That's right. For me, it's an order again. It's really good. This is a delight. I was afraid it was going to be another stinky rye piece of shit. Nope. Nope.

Sweet smelling rye. Jeff, you know what's helping me with rye? Well, hold on. And in fact, it gets me excited about much anticipated Manhattan 2. The retrial. Retrial. Manhattan revisited. Yes.

Yeah, I think that when we do that, we need to say to ourselves, okay, guys, maybe we do that in person sometime. And by the way, we're not doing it to get in the good graces of the slopheads. That has nothing to do with it. We're doing it, let's do it together, let's get top shelf everything.

Top shelf whiskey. Top shelf whatever else is in it and we get a brand new uh sweet vermouth one that's not old in manhattan so it's fresh yes when jeff comes out for christmas yep no no fully has plans booked in la family coming out there's always nothing's nothing's set in stone when it comes to the holiday season joe yeah you never know ding dong ding dong ding dong ding dong yeah that's true you never do ding dong ding dong hey um i have two things to say one on the topic of rye i was

very not into it and then i heard some bartender say, think of the difference of the whiskeys when you think of rye. Think of rye bread. That tastes rye. That made me think, oh. Is that supposed to help? It helped me. Not helping you? You're not salivating?

That's why sometimes if I have a pastrami sandwich on white bread, I couldn't find rye, I'll dip it in rye whiskey and eat it. Mike. You just like that stinky little seed, rye. It's the seed you need. Now, those seeds in rye bread, that's not rye. That's caraway. We don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. Kerouac, one of my favorite, all-time favorite writers. On Golden, not on Golden Pond, on Walden Pond. No. That's Henry David Thoreau. On the road. There you go.

Yes. I wish I was reading some more Kerouac. You ought to know about that. Bill Joel. Bill Joel is thinking about his favorite author, Kerouacio. Jeff, what do you say? You ordered again? Ask Tim, too.

I already said. Mike, don't you dare grab the wheel here. I'm not paying attention. Tim, you've said, but you didn't say if it's an order again. Who's that guy, that political news guy, Karnacki? Yeah, Karnacki. Should I do a comedy character that's like Jack Carol Warnacki yeah he yeah karnacki should i do a comedy character that's like jack carroll arnacki and he's kind of a beat nick but he's got his sleeves rolled up and he's covering the the

election no you already got a great character kalpaki karnacki it's you yeah you're taking your personality to the extreme doing the uh the fucking coverage i I mean, and that's the beauty. If you have a character that's based on yourself, I'm halfway there. Yeah, you just have to amp it up. I go to SNL, I'm like, this character is Tim Kalpakis. This could be good for my show. My final thoughts on the view, Kaveh, are Order Again.

I absolutely love it. It gives me an appreciation for a stirred cocktail because this was very good with the cognac stirred and i'll tell you this every time in my life i've had a souped up manhattan i like it better than a manhattan give me all the money you know we've had like five of them like a a Brooklyn and a Monte Carlo and a Toronto. Anytime it's a take on a Manhattan, I like it better than a Manhattan. Wow. Damn.

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That's good stuff. Actually, we got the most engagement by a mile on Best Candy Bar. People love it. Why do you think we're doing Best Donut? Mike. Yeah, but you don't think people want to listen to the ViewCat, eh? Sure they do.

People, we have, I think most of our listeners are Francophiles. Sure. Francophones, at least. Do you think anyone makes it this deep into an episode, though? At this point, you think we have zero listeners? No, no, zero. I don you think anyone makes it this deep into an episode though at this point you think we have zero listeners no no zero this is basically like the good nights they don't care they're

tuned out I was thinking that here at the end of the episode is a good place for me to actually keep my sort of secret information like my social security number and stuff I'll say it here and then it's there for safekeeping because I don't think anyone's going to...

To preserve it. Yeah. Just so I know it if I need to remember it. Just listen to the View Correa episode at the end. I'll give you my stuff. Anytime I'm talking on the phone to my credit card company, they're like,

yep, no problem. We'll just bring up that episode and skip to the end. Okay, great. If you're on the phone with... Yeah, that's good. Good, good, good. good good pretty good all right folks uh it's a good episode and why don't we meet right back here next week but hey this next week bring a couple friends why don't you oh yes don't forget to uh rate and review but what do we call it uh don't

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I also want to announce the drink. You know, usually we wait and we tease it on Instagram. Yeah. But we've decided that we, one time on Thanksgiving, we did an old-fashioned, and it paired very well with the holiday. Oh. And I've been flapping my trap about the Wisconsin Supper Clubs and the brandy old-fashioned suite for a long time. So next week, for Thanksgiving weekend, we're taking a trip to Wisconsin for the brandy old-fashioned suite. Dang.

Nice. You hear that, cheeseheads? Thanksgiving weekend, we're taking a trip to Wisconsin for the brandy old-fashioned sweet. Dang. You hear that, cheeseheads? We're coming at you live on the podcast. I'm looking forward to that. And in fact, Tim, I think we should do some variants of the old-fashioned every Thanksgiving. I like that. Oh! Love it. I like it.

I love it. We don't have to commit to it now. Yeah. Just a little idea. Well,'t have to commit to it now. Yeah. Just a little idea. Well, there's the brandy old-fashioned sour. Maybe, is there any, are there any old-fashions with the egg whites in it? Whoa! No, because usually an old-fashioned is stirred, and if you stir an egg around, it's disgusting.

Well, here's the thing also. Old-fashioned doesn't have any citrus in it, which is good to cook up. It cooks the egg. Yeah. In my head, anyway. I'll tell you what cooks the egg. There's a fucking frying pan in my house. No, but on a serious note.

One time, I was at a bar in Montreal, and had a maple old fashioned and it was delicious that could be another Thanksgiving there you go so we got the next two this Thanksgiving and next Thanksgiving set what about three Thanksgivings from now we do the Negroni Spagliato

with Prosecco in it what about like a hundred Thanksgivings? That would have ended the pod so nicely. No, Tim's got a good one. My thing's funny. No, it's not about being funny. It's about being timely.

It's about being done. Your pitch for two Thanksgivings. And doing a meme from three weeks ago. Folks, here's my joke and it'll laugh you out of the episode in a hundred thanksgivings we should do a fucking

dip in dots old fashioned cause it's the ice cream of the future and we're out of here okay that's enough of this give it up for your boys give it up for your boys

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