The Sloppy Boys - 128. Bramble

Episode Date: March 31, 2023

The guys break out the blackberry for an 80's drink from British bartender Dick Bradsell.BRAMBLE RECIPE1.7oz/50ml Gin.8oz/25ml Lemon Juice.4oz/12.5ml Simple Syrup.5oz/15ml Crème de MûrePour all ingr...edients (except Crème de Mûre) into a cocktail shaker, shake well with ice and strain into a chilled old fashioned glass filled with crushed ice. Pour the Crème de Mûre over the top of the drink, in a circular motion.Recipe via the International Bartenders Association (https://www.iba-world.com/) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like high blood pressure developed during pregnancy, which can put us two times more at risk of heart disease or stroke. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys, where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton, along with Mike Hanford. Ooh, hi. And Tim Kalpakis.
Starting point is 00:00:42 What is up? Spring has sprung, stylies. Wow. I do see it. It's true. It's springing. It's true. It's springing. It's true. The crocuses are out. The cloacas. I saw a tulip.
Starting point is 00:00:52 You did? Yeah. I actually tiptoed through the tulips. And I danced through the daisies. That's great to hear. And I ripped ass by the roses. That's what I was afraid of. I was going to say, it's great you guys are having fun with the springtime foliage, and you're not breaking wind.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Yeah, right. I did smell a couple roses on my way home today, and one smelled really bad. Oh, that must have been the one. I should have warned you about that one. Nasty boy. Nasty boy is a nasty man. That was on Hillhurst, yeah. So wait a second.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Nasty Boy is a nasty man? Oh, yeah. That's mostly what he is. Did you not know about that? I was thinking that someday he'll grow up to be a nasty man. No, they are one in the same. We should do a version of Girl, you'll be a woman soon. Nasty boy, you'll
Starting point is 00:01:48 be a nasty man soon. Well, it's sort of like you've never seen nasty boy in the same room as nasty man. That's very true. I love how it's just so repetitive for nothing that really exists. There's nothing there.
Starting point is 00:02:04 There's nothing there. There's nothing there. There's no there there. You want to talk about something. Here's some shit chat for you. You guys ever be on your computer? I was getting my computer set up here. I start my recording. I'm getting the Zoom link here so I can see you guys.
Starting point is 00:02:18 And I was just thinking how crazy it is that whoever came up with, I mean, I guess Bill Gates with Windows and stuff, but the way that your computer works, it's so amazing. You click on the window you want to control, and then you click on another window, and you move this one out of the way,
Starting point is 00:02:36 so you can get, oh, that's crazy that somebody came up with that, and we all know how to use it. It's a graphic interface. I think you're right, Tim, and what I think is so exciting is that it's so intuitive yeah did you ever have any friends or know anybody in school or anything who were like i use linux
Starting point is 00:02:53 you ever or like they use something that's not the normal stuff and it's way harder to use but they feel cool well all my my family got a macintosh, one of the blue bubbly ones when those came out. And then nobody else that I knew had a Mac. It was all PC computers. And I think I couldn't really do much on my Mac. Those were hip Macs. They were hip Macs, but I didn't know what to do with it. It was lost on me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Macintosh type computer. do you ever use the did you ever do paper i meant to say when we were no no no no dos no dos but i like number munchers whatever that was on oh yeah that green little guy you make him eat all the equations there's a version of that where you don't have to do math. And they were like, Oh, word munchers. We want you to do the math version. I want food munchers. He just goes around eating food. I guess you can just do munchers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:52 No learning at all. Anybody have any other shit chat? Well, the cell phones too. The iPhones. The fact that those work too. I can't believe it. Whoever came up with this stuff, come on.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Well, your lucky ears works. I got one of these dang, damn, you know, my phone. You got bricked. His phone bricked out. What were you trying to say? Blueberry? Blackberry?
Starting point is 00:04:17 Bramble. Bramble. Hey, hey, hey. Not quite yet. What do you say? But it's an Easter egg for the rest of the episode. Yeah. Foreshadowing.
Starting point is 00:04:29 That's good foreshadowing. But for now, do you want to get into a little booze news? Booze news hit. Do you relax your throat and try to just... Or are you sipping? Because my thing with chugging... That's what I do. About half the time I gag when I'm doing that.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Sure. You want to clean that thing. Yeah. Because if four of us are just silent going... We're not sucking or fucking. No matter what you hear, you're not sucking or fucking each other's nicks oh god genuine booze news was sent to us by progeny avidia and if you have a booze news was sent to us by Progenia Avidia.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And if you have a booze news theme, email it to thesloppyboyspodcast at gmail.com. Wow. That one needed a little explicit content disclaimer on it, though. Yeah, that's hovering over the line of proper talk and improper talk. Right, and we do proper talk here on the pod. It's sprinting across the line. Well, it didn't really say. I did say some F-bombs and oh sure i um when i'm picking these booze
Starting point is 00:06:11 news themes and there's a lot of people listening to this show who are angry with me and hate me because i haven't played their theme yet and i understand maybe i'm in deserving of being despised but uh i've definitely had to parse out the filthy ones because I don't want to be filth-cast, you know? But every once in a while, hey, why not? Sure. Really? And also, people who send these in, you don't just get them on the air because you send it in.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Well, it's good to know, for the listeners and the people making them, to know that Tim's got a lot of... He's got a stock. High volume. I've got a vault of them He's got a stock. Yeah. High volume. I've got a vault of them under my house. I go down there.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I slip one in my DVDs. I sneak it back up here. I play it on the podcast. Yeah. There's got to be... You got to know other ways to get music. No. Damn.
Starting point is 00:07:00 It's got to pass through those cotton DVDs. You think I'm one of these Napster League freaks? Napster did it. Okay, today's booze news. It's a very fun one. We've seen other products like this before, but none took hold. And I'm rooting for this one. A fun one.
Starting point is 00:07:19 A fun one. This is nice. I was checking out, but you said fun one. Now, what's this? Yeah, you were kind of thinking it's Mary. Yeah, snoooze news this is usually where i take a little bit of a nap this comes from uh melindo 64 on the discord which you can have uh access to and hobnob with other slob heads if you subscribe to our patreon at the sloppy boys at The patreon.com slash the sloppy boys. Right, Jeff? Oh, yeah. That's right. Right, Jeff. And the news is Coors Icicles.
Starting point is 00:07:50 That's right. Coors Light Icicles. A frozen treat. Much like what are those? The long sticks in the plastic tube that you squeeze up a flavor. Yeah. Flavor ice. Flavor ice.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Yes. Okay. tube that you squeeze up a flavor yeah flavor ice flavor ice yes okay well i'm looking at a silver a metallic silver tube long and narrow uh that's has the coors logo on it and you keep them in the freezer and you squeeze and you're a yellow frozen yellow brown beer it's beer flavor they say are they are they it's yeah it's Coors beer uh wait a second non-alcoholic oh oh Coors icicles are non-alcoholic freezer icies with the cold crisp refreshing flavor of Coors light oh well that's odd they I guess would beer not freeze? Or liquor doesn't freeze, but beer freezes. Beer should freeze. You could make a boozy popsicle.
Starting point is 00:08:48 It's been done. But maybe it doesn't freeze. Remember last time we were talking about the Apple Jack? How it was alcoholic apple cider, but then froze kind of unevenly? So maybe it does that. Still, it doesn't need to be actual beer for them to sell a beer styled popsicle why why do these companies miss uh they misinterpret their own appeal so much like like hard hard monster yeah energy drink has no caffeine in it you know
Starting point is 00:09:19 you gotta you gotta you gotta give the people what they. I don't care if it's legal. I don't care what the FDA says. Yeah. The FDA won't let me pay. This one, well, I took this piece of news and I went on air with it because it's actually available. You know, like sometimes I click on these things and they're stunts. But like you go to CoorsLight.com, you can buy these. Six pack is 20 bucks you can order them they're in stores also as well
Starting point is 00:09:48 so I was like this is legit but it's a beer flavored non-alcoholic freezer pop I just don't know I just don't get why you would do why would you drink like suck on a beer flavored
Starting point is 00:10:03 popsicle does not sound good to me. I don't know. Maybe you're a jag off. Beer flavor is not a refreshing flavor. A lot of people drink non-alcoholic beer. No? Yeah, that's true. Do they not?
Starting point is 00:10:16 But I feel like that's serving a different purpose. That's serving like a, yeah, I guess if you just like the taste of non-alcoholic beer, that's what you do all right okay that's just how it's gonna be and i need to be okay with that i need to be okay this is the new normal mike you have to adapt or die people are chewing on ice non-alcoholic beer okay yeah and right now you're kind of having your fight or flight response. Fight, flight, or flight. Yeah, that's right. I'm looking at my... Yeah, the hairs on my arms are sticking up. I'm tense.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I'm in a fight position. We should agree. Like the three of us, when we're together, if someone attacks us, one person does fight, one flight, one freeze. That way we have our bases covered. I'll do flight. No, you can't dibs flight.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I'll do freeze because I used to play hockey. If you've got to fight... I'm fight? You're Ninja Turtle guy. Yeah, but... Get my fucking ass kicked. You're so violent. You beat up all those guys on that Oculus game. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I'll snap into my Oculus mode. That's a good idea. that's a good idea that's a good idea next time just picture that everyone is an oculus yes yes well video world's a lot easier than real world fighting god i wish i could live in video world sometimes yeah Yeah, me too. Yeah. If I could go in, live inside any video game, I'd live inside the world of Tapper. Yeah. Drinking, chugging Budweiser's to the dome. I like the Tapper world when you get farther along,
Starting point is 00:11:56 you're like, you're in a bar, then you're at a sporting event, and then you're at like a punk club. Punk bar, yeah. And then what, back to the bar? Yeah, I think I couldn't beat the punk one, and I was like, what's after this? And you're back to the bar and then... Yeah. I think I couldn't beat the punk one. And I was like, what's after this? And you're back to the first style or something.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I love that with old video games. It's like, same thing, but just a little faster. Yeah. Three levels. Wow. All right. There was another... Hold on.
Starting point is 00:12:18 There was another Tapper game that was like Logger or Log Man or something like that. Yeah. Well, Tapper... First of all, there's tapper then there's root beer tapper because it became so popular with kids that they made a non-alcoholic they took the budweiser branding off of it sure and then there's one called i want to say it's called timber timber that's what it was but instead of pouring beers you chop trees yep sure but they all have that delightful blue collar aesthetic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:47 All right, Jeff, now you can send us away. All right. Is that it for Booze News? Mm-hmm. Nice. Nicely done, Jeffy D. I'd love to hear about the drink of the day. Who's got it?
Starting point is 00:13:09 I've got it. And before I get into it, maybe all eagle-eared listeners might remember that this episode was Spring Has Sprung style. Do you guys remember that? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I know you mentioned it. I remember about rambling off about something like that well you guys know that uh hey last week we did uh what we do last week angel last week was the angel face hey well yeah well before that we were uh talking it was saint
Starting point is 00:13:42 patrick's day and then the angels face but then on our patreon we did best spring thing no right and it's you might say that spring is the season that we're living in and we wanted to we're back on the iba cocktail list right now and we have a very spring friendly Spring friendly sipper for the listenership today. It is called the Bramble you've had. No, and not heard. Yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:14:14 only heard about it. Not heard. Only heard about it. Perusing the IBA for little interesting ones. Yes. It's funny how, like we always said, like,
Starting point is 00:14:23 yeah, it doesn't, you haven't heard of the drink if you just heard of it from the iba cocktailist but now that we're like what two and a half years into this shit well i'm like yeah i've heard of that but it's like oh because two and a half years ago i saw it on a website because for two years you saw it and went no no yeah i don't have creme de mouro i don't i don't know what that is um well here's the deal um we've got ourselves a new era drink guys you know the iba splits them up into three unforgettable oldies
Starting point is 00:14:53 uh contemporary classics and uh new era drinks i was sort of surprised ramble is such an old-timey word to me i know um and this this this is this will be interesting because this is a moment in cocktail history we i was surprised by this basically there was a hot shit bartender in london in the 1980s named dick bradsell um who invented a bunch of drinks and we've, um, only name checked him on the pod once because he invented the espresso martini. But, um, he's basically like a Harry Craddock or a Harry McElhone who's invented a
Starting point is 00:15:34 bunch of drinks, but it's eighties London, which is interesting because he has good taste and, you know, he has like one foot in the old classics, but then had modern taste, but it's like the eighties, which we know to be the dark ages of cocktails and just sex on the beach and Long Island iced tea and sweet, sweet, sweet drinks. But it seems like this guy was ahead of the curve.
Starting point is 00:15:58 This guy reminds me almost of like the 2000s cocktail resurgence type of shit, but he was doing it in the 80s. So he's sort of like the Tom Cruise character. Ah. You know? Was he doing poems in cocktail? Yeah, is he a slam poet? He's not a slam poet. He's a little bit more of a dapper Dan than a party guy,
Starting point is 00:16:15 but people called him the cocktail king. We could overwork that. Was he part of the new wave scene? I know in the 80s, London, new wave is sort of happening. Post-punk, new wave. Michael, no. After punk, there's New Wave stuff happening. You know what? You might be thinking of Flock of Seagulls.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Yeah, that's right. Right. And I run. Is Duran Duran New Wave? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, baby. Yes, they are. Oh, yeah. Oh, baby. Yes, they are.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Oh, yeah. Oh. So this guy isn't that. He's a dapper Dan. He's a dapper Dan. Very un-new wave. But, you know, I recognized him. I looked at pics today, and I was like, I've seen this guy as like a talking head in a
Starting point is 00:17:02 martini documentary I watched on Prime. But he has since died. basically we're talking about yeah a british guy in in fancy suits very charismatic invented a lot of uh cocktails and that have this they were they're very modern for that their time he invented the bramble at fred's club in soho in 1984 which is sort of an orwellian year if you ask me but um yeah wait he wanted to create a british cocktail that conjured memories of going blackberrying in his childhood on the isle of white the verb to blackberry yeah yeah you gotta go blackberrying i mean these days with the smartphones everyone's blackberrying but i think that's not what they mean here no no no but but but if they did they would be like oh they wow
Starting point is 00:17:58 the interface is so intuitive yeah yeah qwerty and touchscreen isle of wight i believe i believe that's an island off the south of england it's like there's like a music festival there and famous recordings of uh i've listened to like a black bear isle of wight name checked in when i'm 64 if i believe oh oh i think it's sort of a carnival-y summer vacation-y uh boardwalk-y kind of a place. Okay. And the name of this drink, the Bramble, comes from the fact that blackberry bushes are called brambles. Boom. There's a Jenny's ice cream flavor called Bramble Berry Crisp. Okay, they're being cute.
Starting point is 00:18:41 They are being cute. But what we're talking about here is basically a gin sour, which you may know is Neil Campbell's first drink at University of Iowa, but a gin sour with some blackberry liqueur to make it this sort of nostalgic blackberrying British cocktail. And here is the IBA recipe. 50 milliliters gin 25 milliliters fresh lemon juice 12 and a half milliliters you know so half uh uh you know half of 25 uh uh sugar syrup now when they say sugar syrup we're talking simple right not right? Not like just wet sugar. Yeah, that's what
Starting point is 00:19:26 I assumed, but that's a good question. Why isn't there uniformity in the IBA list? I don't know. I don't know. The whole group needs to... They need to have a meeting. The IBA's days are numbered. We don't have to put up with this much longer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I can't wait until they're a distant memory and you say hey tim remember the iba and i'll say well i haven't thought of that on you um the method here is pour all ingredients into a cocktail shaker except the creme oh wait did i skip that one yeah the most important ingredient after the sugar syrup i didn't say 15 milliliters or half an ounce of creme de more how do you guys do creme de more oh not so good al i had to get creme de cassis not bad not a bad substitute it was so i looked it up i said what can you substitute for the more and they said cassis now creme de more is a blackberry liqueur from France.
Starting point is 00:20:25 I want to say creme de cassis is blackcurrant. I think that is the difference. Pretty close. And also blackberry is not black raspberry also. Different fruits. Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy? I don't know that I've ever had a black raspberry.
Starting point is 00:20:40 It sounds good. I've snuck them into pies you've had. Yeah, yeah, you've had. you've had yeah yeah you've had one time i stuck my thumb in a pie and i pulled it out and i think there was one of those right on there no one time i stuck my uh stuck my job okay anyway uh proper this is why this is why people come at us with those booze news themes jeff because they got a lot to pull from with you specifically they say hey well this is the sleazy perv show. I'll sing to their level when I'm making a Booze News theme.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Yeah, we need your Booze News themes to elevate what's going on here. Jeff, how did you do in the blackberry liqueur department? Okay, I got Chambord because I've always wanted it, you know? So that's the Chambord. The little very famous, you know the round bottle. It's a black raspberry liqueur. Black raspberry liqueur. But I also broke into your house and got a little of that Morde.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Great. Morde? M-U-R-E, but the U has a little accent on it. M-U-R-E. M-U-R-E. M-U-R-E. I'm guessing it's French. Because I read that the Morde was hard to find and that everybody uses Chambord.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I thought that too i went to cap and cork found two bottles of two options of more the more creme de more and they had the chambord and they had like a lot they had like um blackberry brandy and blackberry schnapps so folks really you got options chill and get whoever yeah just put some sort of blackberry ish thing on top of this um here's the method pour all ingredients into a cocktail shaper except the creme de boire shake well with ice strain into chilled old-fashioned glass filled with crushed ice was a very posh thing at the time 1984 people loved crushed ice. Crushed ice was a very posh thing at the time. 1984, people loved crushed ice. Then pour the blackberry liqueur, creme de mer, over the top of the drink in a circular motion.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Oh, a floater. Garnish optionally with a lemon slice and blackberries. I have a big bag of crushed ice. I've got blackberries. I'm going to be having fun here, man. Me too. Me too.
Starting point is 00:22:43 I bought a fruit cup. I got to crush my own ice right now. That is fucking great. So we got to crush ice. We got to squeeze lemons. Here's how you crush ice, Mike. You put the ice in a pillowcase and hit it with a hammer. I'm going to put it in a plastic bag, I think.
Starting point is 00:22:59 No, Mike, I'm sorry. It's got to be a pillowcase. I feel like I'm going to get linty ice that way. I think it's supposed to be linty ice. Linty ice, speaking of which, was my rap name in 1984. Oh, come on. Come on. That can't be true at this point.
Starting point is 00:23:15 That can't be the case. That's cap. That's cap. That's major cap. Major cap for y'all. Okay, thank you. All right. I'm going to clean.
Starting point is 00:23:24 No more cap. Major cap for y'all. Okay, thank you. All right. I'm going to clean. No more cap. And then we're going to whisk away and juice some lemons and crush some ice. And when we come back, first sips. Oh. Rock and roll. The first sips. and we're back brambles in hand nice let's see him oh we got a very similar looking drinks here yeah now so the color sank huh that was interesting because they told us to swirl it on top, but then it fell right to the bottom. All of us.
Starting point is 00:24:06 It looks cool. It does look cool. I had one major disaster, which was my simple syrup. I left it in the cabinet thinking that's okay. Why is it not okay? It had a bunch of furry fucking moss fungus. Mold is the word I'm looking for. Let's be mold damn moldy mossy boy and and here's what i did i just sort of moved the mold aside and i still poured it in my drink so let's see how this goes down oh yeah i'm sure that's fine yeah that's really good
Starting point is 00:24:38 you know what happens is the gin kills the the contamin. Yeah. Not to mention the lemon. Yeah. All right, sips. I think I got to stir mine because it's so down the bottom. Mmm. Up top, we got a gin sour that basically tastes like a Tom Collins
Starting point is 00:24:56 minus the bubbles. Delicious. Now, let's go on down below. That's good. This is springy. Spring has sprung. Oh, spring has sprung. Well, I think I got to stir mine a little too.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Hold on. Spring hasn't sprung over here yet. Off he goes. Now, I stole a sip of creme de mouro on the way in. Very deep, dark flavor. Reminded me of cherry hearing. Yeah, very rich, huh? Very rich.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And I also took a little sip of Chambord for comparison. That was delicious as well. A little bit brighter, a little weaker, less sludge-like, but still very good and very simple. I'm about to do that. Oh, this is a very good drink. Oh, blackberry off the top. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Ooh, that's good. I may have put a little too much lemon juice in mine. I could imagine scaling back on the lemon as well. I'm really surprised this is from 1984. Isn't it so, like, springtime and beautiful for such a weird time? I wasn't listening. You're surprised that Orwell book is from 1984? I don't think it was written in 1984, Tim.
Starting point is 00:26:07 What year was it written? It's titled 1984. That's about as far as we know. Okay. It's one of these books, a big part of it was not saying what year it was written. Let's see, 1984, Orwell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I probably don't even look it up, Tim.
Starting point is 00:26:23 I probably let that one slide. 1949. Woo! Ooh. I read Animal Farm in school. And 1984 as well. Yeah, sure. Okay, back to the drink at hand.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I can't believe this came out in the years when people were drinking the Woo Woo and the Cape Codder. Oh, Cape Codder's not too far. I feel like old Jay Gats should be drinking this. Exactly. Out on the lawn. Drink this in a white suit on the lawn. Did you try some of that, your creme de cassis or whatever you have over there without the. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:01 It's good. It's like. Chambord tastes like cough syrup. I know. Yes, it does. Chambord does have a cough syrupy tastes like sir oh not bad though okay i mixed this up and this is damn it i get nice very good very well balanced i'm not worried about the lemon anymore the crushed ice gets very melty very fast the the the creme de more mixed in with everything and that is one of the best cocktails we've had on this podcast yeah this is great distinct and you don't get a springtime treat like that ever i'll tell you what the name creme de cassis or creme
Starting point is 00:27:38 de more doesn't sound like something that's gonna to just on its own taste good. Also, it sounds creamy. Yeah. Why do they say cream when they mean liqueur, basically? Well, I think they mean it like jack it off. Oh, yeah. They jack off the fruits. Well, I'll just say this is drink is so good. You're going to beat your meat. That's cream your fucking jeans.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Choke your chicken. Flog your fucking dolphin. Whatever it is. Manually gratify yourself. Okay. Self-stimulation. Oh, baby. This crushed ice is really fun, too.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I crushed it, too, with a hammer and everything. I had a bag from the grocery store that had melted in my power outage, and it reformed as just a block. Ooh. So I chunked it up with a hammer, and I got nice big hunks and chunks. I put mine in the plastic bag, as I talked about, and then took a frying pan and banged it around, and my neighbors came over and said,
Starting point is 00:28:42 Are you okay in there? We're ready to bust this door down and hurt whoever's hurting you. I'm good. I'm doing the pod. You heard him. I heard you, dude. They said, we should have known. We love the pod, Mike. We love the pod. Good luck with the frying pan, dude.
Starting point is 00:28:57 We're getting set to listen to last week's because you're recording this week's. I said, wow, you guys don't even know the schedule? We love you, man. You made the whole building whole building you brought us all together we're a community now you know i had the impact i'm just doing my thing i'm not trying to be you know the guy who brings the whole building together but right shit yeah shit i'm the fucking guy who brought the fucking building together shit i'm the fucking guy i guess i'm the fucking guy it's true they what they say no man is an island mike you touch everybody that you come into contact with no man is an island boy
Starting point is 00:29:36 i really i can't believe those guys were one hit wonders The island boy guys I know that sucks I thought they would have a big discography Speaking of big discography This week we're talking about 100 gecks on the blowout Check it out folks 10,000 gecks Not a disappointment in my opinion
Starting point is 00:29:59 The latest from 100 gecks Yeah 10,000 gecks Speaking of 100 gex yeah thousand ten thousand gex yes um speaking of uh well rock and and bands and all that stuff um did did i mentioned you guys off pod what happened to me when i was buying the uh ingredients for this drink no let's see i don't know you i was listening pretty carefully as you were talking about the mixing the ingredients. The recipe, history. So I must have left it out because you got every word.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Well, you know, I live in Los Feliz, California, beautiful town. And I went down to Cap and Cork where I buy my premium liqueurs. Very helpful place. I like to talk to the owner. He steers me in the direction of replacements or recommendations. Cap and cork for the Calpe dork. That hurt my feelings really bad. Mike, how could you say that on pod?
Starting point is 00:30:55 That was the full intention, to hurt. To hurt and to harm. Okay, well, apologize and I'll continue. Ruthless. I guess we're not going anywhere. I'm kidding. I'm sorry. You're proud of what you've done. I wanted to hurt you and now you're in pain i'm sorry i apologize i apologize um i forgive
Starting point is 00:31:12 you and um so i was talking to the the owner of cap and cork i was like you know i need this stuff uh creme de more and and you know he had it and we had it but i was asking like what's it tastes like what's um you know what's the flavor of this what's the fruit that this creme de mor is made from and and he was like he started scratching his head it's that um he couldn't remember what is it and and i was like i i could it's gotta be and wait you asked specifically the fruit right you said what's the fruit creme de mor what's the the fruit? Yeah. What's the fruit that this is of? What the flavor of? Just making sure I'm getting, yes, the fruit was what you asked about. It's kind of a hornet's nest of a subject.
Starting point is 00:31:56 So we kind of got lost in the weeds a little bit. It's a hornet's nest of a subject. I was a little bit overwhelmed. Sure. And he suggested, why don't you just kind of cool down for a second? Why don't we pause and you go get some fresh air? Yeah. Which is smart.
Starting point is 00:32:14 If you're feeling emotional, remove yourself from the situation, get your wits about you. Yeah. So I go out to the parking lot. I had started to hyperventilate. So I'm out in the parking lot kind of cooling down. Doing a little Lamaze. Were you breathing into like the paper bag?
Starting point is 00:32:31 Yeah. Yeah, but I had to get one of those big grocery bags. Boom. So I'm starting to calm down, starting to get some oxygen to all the different, the cortex and the cerebrum and the cerebellum and all that. And then who do I see in the parking lot but
Starting point is 00:32:51 70s rockers Ram Jam. The obscure 70s rock band. You saw the whole band. They were there. They were standing only in Hollywood, man. Ram Jam. They have a hit that everyone knows. I just can't think of it.
Starting point is 00:33:06 So that's okay for now. I couldn't think of it either. I was like, Ram Jam, I love your shit, man. You're good. Everything about you. I love your shit. I love your hit. So you can see this was a 180 for me.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I'd been really sad and overwhelmed. I was Ram Jam, dude. I love. I'm picking up what you're putting down, dudes. Okay. I'm getting all this stuff that happened i get it yeah anyway i explained they're like tim they recognize me you know from the rock guitar community and they're like tim what seems to be the problem you're all flush in the face and i was like well you know here's i explain the situation you know like what fruit does creme de mouro come from? And they had kind of all got a knowing grin across their faces and they nodded to each other like, I think we can answer this guy.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And I was like, what is this? What, you know, what are you going to say? And they're like, they told me, we're going to tell you. Yeah. So I reached for my smartphone and I hit record. Thank God. Beautiful interface on that smartphone, by the way. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Graphic interface. It's all beautiful. Very intuitive. My thumb goes right to the record button. Big red button. Booge. Just as Ram Jam says this. Hit the clip. Whoa, Blackberry, Bramble Bram Whoa, Blackberry, Bramble Bram
Starting point is 00:34:26 Blackberry and a drink Bramble Bram, well it's not gonna stink Bramble Bram, Shambord will do fine Bramble Bram, but you're the right type Bramble Bram, whoa, Blackberry Bramble Bram, whoa, Blackberry Bramble Bram Oh, wow
Starting point is 00:34:43 Oh my gosh Blackberry's got a drink Yeah, yeah, yeah Oh, that was Oh, my gosh. Blackberry's got a drink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that was... Wait, their song is Black Betty. Oh, that's the random hit. That's the word I was looking for. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Right. I should have known that because we were talking about so much about blackberries, blackberries. I should have jumped to Black Betty. Damn, I wish I had thought of that. Well, you blanked, I guess. I totally blanked. Too many brambles for me. So I went back.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I marched down back into the store and I said, blackberry. And the owner of Cap'n Cork was, absolutely, that's right. How'd you know? And I said, ram jam. He said, right. Yeah, for him, it wasn't so much of like an odyssey. It was just like, oh, yeah, yeah. He knew he didn't want to, he was just quizzing you,
Starting point is 00:35:31 so he wasn't going to tell you the answer. I see. I wonder, that's a good story, Tim. You really set up what you were doing there. But I don't know why you were so sad, or that we had to hear about you being so sad and flustered. I thought maybe that would have shown up. If they came into the store? You were so sad and... Or that we had to hear about you being so sad and flustered. Well, because I... I thought maybe...
Starting point is 00:35:46 Had to go? That would have shown up. If they came into the store? Oh, you... I mean, what you said is fact. What happened, happened. But... Well, yeah, that's public record.
Starting point is 00:35:55 They could have come into the store, but... Just to streamline the story and what we were getting at, I just don't know what... I thought maybe Ram Jam would have sang about your emotions somehow. I feel like Ram Jam, they probably would have just went about their day had they not seen a man in need, a man in crisis. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Do you know a lot about Ram Jam? I kind of know nothing. So you're right. You've had an interaction with him. I shouldn't even be questioning this. I just might. Well, I mean, that was my only interaction. i didn't talk to them in any other way i mean but between the three of
Starting point is 00:36:29 us you're the expert yeah yeah yeah like for example whoever meets the band is the expert like mike you once saw lizzie caplan stub her toe uh on my block when you were coming to my christmas party i didn't see that, so I would defer to you about any party-down fact. I'm the go-to Kaplan guy. And so you don't see Tim saying like, oh, she should have been in a car, or she could have also been on a lime scooter.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Right. Or a bird scooter, even. Bird scooter, Lyft scooters now. I think those Revel scooters are big. Maybe back to the classic Razor. Whatever happened to Razor scooters now. I think those Revel scooters are big. Maybe back to the classic Razor. Whatever happened to Razor scooters, okay? What's it called where you're riding the scooter and then you kick it and the whole foot thing
Starting point is 00:37:15 goes towards the front of the stick and then right back under your feet? That's got to be in Around the World. Probably in Around the World. Roundhouse. Picture Lizzie Kaplan. She doesn't stub her toe. She does it in Around the World on a Razor world. Roundhouse. Picture Lizzie Kaplan. She doesn't stub her toe. She does an around the world on a razor scooter.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Hell yeah. Wow. I'd see her do that in a movie. Yeah. That would be like the Spider-Verse version of that story. I don't want to make a second one yet. How about that? How about that?
Starting point is 00:37:41 Well, it's quite a to-do to make a second one. Springtime is not a chugging moment. It's not, you know, about getting tanked up. It's about you put on a nice seersucker suit. You walk to the nearest garden. Yeah. And you hang out in a gazebo with a bramble, talking to the birds. Sure.
Starting point is 00:38:02 You take a ramble with a bramble. That's what springtime is. There you go. Maybe you see a squirrel a ramble with a bramble. That's what springtime is. There you go. Maybe you see a squirrel or a bunny or a chipmunk. That could be a whole viral springtime thing for us. Take a ramble with a bramble. Tag us on your bramble ramble, you know? Ooh.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Ooh, that's good. It's just a bunch of people getting open container tickets. Public intoxication. Bobo no no. What's brilliant about this drink? Tell them. The brilliant thing about this drink is that the creme de more was so deep and dark when I
Starting point is 00:38:36 tried it on its own, but you add it to the gin sour, it brightened right up. Bingo. Yeah. And gin is floral. Lemon is springtime. Birds and bees are getting together doing the horizontal mambo baby doing yeah birds and bees are coming nasty boys turn into a nasty man this bird's a nasty boy and the bees are nasty man all right well uh what if i just do a quick chug and then i will make another one i'm going to do the sham board version great okay how about you are you guys doing a second round or is it just me
Starting point is 00:39:13 i'll do the sham board version as well oh it's so good timmy likey all right folks it's almost like a better like uh it's like a pink lemonade or something, you know? I'm gonna try something. I'm gonna do Oh yeah, would you change anything? I'm gonna try a one for one gin and cassis. Really?
Starting point is 00:39:38 One to one. One to one. What about lemon? Maybe a squeeze of lemon. Just a little touch. Just a touch. I don't think I need the sweet in there. Great. I'll let you know.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I'm excited to hear what comes out of the test kitchen. Yeah. Folks, why don't you take a listen to these ads, and when we come back round two i did sham board look at it check it out a little lighter huh your sham board it looks darker than mine, though. Did you double it up? No, I'm a law-abiding citizen. Oh, see, I think that's... I was going to say, I took a little sip of the Chambord, and I was like, because it's a lighter flavor, like, the creme de mousse took over my drink.
Starting point is 00:40:37 The Chambord did not. So I'm thinking that if you use Chambord, you might need to double or triple your measurements here, but yours looks fine. It does look darker on the screen but um i think it's just the lighting of like the webcam or something mine mine copy copy webcams can be very dark irl looks like mine's really dark i did just half and half my god that looks like prune juice wow yeah it's uh it's not bad because i do like the creme de cassis taste but it does need i didn't put any
Starting point is 00:41:06 lemon in probably lemon could could be used sharp it up okay i i just mine i took it i can taste the chambord in here but i would definitely double it it's not like as flavored as the creme de more was double i would say honestly the the best approximation of creme de mort is more like cherry hearing or even like Luxardo juice dripped from your cherry jar. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty rich. Yeah. Pretty rich.
Starting point is 00:41:35 I'm going to go ahead and say this is a great drink to drink. Great. I can't wait to hear more about it when we get to final thoughts. That's not now. No, go ahead, Mike. Mike seems to be going rogue in breaking format, but... Order again. Wow.
Starting point is 00:41:53 That's all there is to it. Again and again. The whole podcast I've been saying I do like it, so yes, I'm going to stick with a order again. Wow, the big reveal. I'll say it's a, could it be a Stone Cold Classic? Can something go from never even heard of it before to it's a Stone Cold Classic? I think last episode we reminded you about the term Stone Cold Classic.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Now you want to do it. Now I want to dole it out. Mike, there was a drink a few weeks ago that you didn't like and then you called it a Stone Cold Classic. Now you want to do it. Now I want to dole it out. Mike, there was a drink a few weeks ago that you didn't like and then you called it a Stone Cold Classic. I know, and I think I was right in that. Might makes right. Are you pulling the trigger on that, Jeff?
Starting point is 00:42:38 What do you mean, pulling the trigger on that? Stone Cold Classic. Yeah. Me too. This is... I'm going to come right out and say it you know i was gonna just say that it's one of the best cocktails we've had on the podcast but i my expectations were low because i hadn't had it and it's so good so that it's like it gets extra points it's the most surprise the most wow surprising the most pleasant surprise on the podcast i mean not at a trinidad sour level because that's almost like a
Starting point is 00:43:14 novelty drink but this is a stone cold classic and it's i didn't even read that it's a spring cocktail but i think it's such a spring cocktail. This is a hole in the calendar. You need. I think the bee's knees is good. The yellow bird is good. But I would say this is like hot shit because it's not even a lot of ingredients. It's a gin sour plus a blackberry liqueur. It's very doable.
Starting point is 00:43:43 You know what? You're saying this is an SCC. Mike, next time you're having one of your get-togethers in a park, you arrive there and have a thermos of gin sour, and you're pouring it onto the ice, and then as you're handing out
Starting point is 00:43:58 the glasses to people, you're putting a little swirl of the creme de mer on there, and everyone's saying, Mike, I didn't used to like you at all. Now I think you're one of my top guys. I can't believe you got invited to this thing. Mike, you are almost improved. Well, that is interesting because usually,
Starting point is 00:44:14 like I like your idea of, yeah, as you're doling them out, usually I don't dole out. I get there, I put my thermos down and lay on a blanket and say, the drinks and the thermos, you figure it out. I'll be in the bathroom. I'll be in the bathroom. I'll be in the bathroom. Don't interrupt me. I sat on a hornet. I'll be in the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:44:33 I might even declare this best use of gin. Wow. Wow. Name a better gin drink. You can't. Martini. This guy knowing full well he's got two martini heads sitting right in front of him two martini heads who know where he lives by the way and know his weaknesses i i prefer the the the the martini and i will probably attack you in your sleep jeff
Starting point is 00:44:59 but yeah okay here's my thinking br Bramble Collins topped us with soda. Go for a little walk. Go for a Bramble Ramble. Make a big one, you know? Walk around. Make a big one. If fucking ACABs come up to you, you tell them to blow off, man. I'm having a Bramble Ramble with a Collins.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Folks listening at home, you know, I like a martini as well, but you know i'm an ice freak and a lime freak and why this doesn't have lime it's got a little sharp citrus and it's very refreshing so you can see why i would step out of line and say something like best use of gin it's really good it's a very good drink it's kind of crazy very good drink another uh spring drink this could be this could be our near future but uh always uncertain the future is um indiana's dad grogu's dad no it's adult grogu no no let's not get into it p Pim's Cup. Pim's Cup. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:46:07 That's springy. That's springy, is it not? And it's probably on the IBA, right? I don't think it is. It should be. Well, next week we're doing Pim's Cup. I love those. You get a little sliced cucumber. You get the special cup.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Oh, a cucumber, eh? What do you do, though, with the rest of the bottle of Pim's after you've had a Pim's Cup? Is there anything else that's a Pim? Pour another Pim's Cup the bottle of Pimms after you've had a Pimms cup? Is there anything else that's a Pim? Pour another Pimms cup. Pour another Pimms. Have a pint of Pimms. I had one in, the first one I had was around the Christmas time.
Starting point is 00:46:34 And so the first time we started the podcast, when Christmas rolled around, I said, hey, Pimms cup. And one of you, probably Tim, said, nah, that's spring. Yeah. So here we are. Time to pay the piper. I said that because I had it in London in spring, but... No, but you're right. It's got like garden vegetables in it.
Starting point is 00:46:53 It's got like cucumbers and stuff. Well, you know, they say when spring is sprung, up goes the thumb. When asked if you want Pim's cup, chum. I've heard a lot of people saying that, and I didn't know what it was in reference to. Yeah, it'll probably come up tomorrow or in the next podcast during the history portion. All right. Well, that's exciting. Are we going to, can we commit to it now?
Starting point is 00:47:16 Yes. Yes. Great. Folks, we'll see you next week talking Pim's Cups. That's our show. Follow us on social media, at The Sloppy Boys, where we release these recipes ahead of time. And if you can't get enough of us boys, go over to patreon.com slash thesloppyboys, plunk down that five bucks, and get the whole back catalog of The Sloppy Boys blowout.
Starting point is 00:47:37 The much better show. This show sucks. Bramble? Ram Jam? Booze News? You can cramble the bramble. We'll, Ram Jam, Booze News. You can cramble the bramble. We'll be over there at Booze. Blow up.
Starting point is 00:47:51 See ya. I spend my time behind the paywall. Patreon, that's where it's at. Me too. All right. Talking gecks. Bye, folks. Give it up for your boys.
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