The Sloppy Boys - 128. Bramble
Episode Date: March 31, 2023The guys break out the blackberry for an 80's drink from British bartender Dick Bradsell.BRAMBLE RECIPE1.7oz/50ml Gin.8oz/25ml Lemon Juice.4oz/12.5ml Simple Syrup.5oz/15ml Crème de MûrePour all ingr...edients (except Crème de Mûre) into a cocktail shaker, shake well with ice and strain into a chilled old fashioned glass filled with crushed ice. Pour the Crème de Mûre over the top of the drink, in a circular motion.Recipe via the International Bartenders Association (https://www.iba-world.com/) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys, where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love.
I'm Jeff Dutton, along with Mike Hanford.
Ooh, hi.
And Tim Kalpakis.
What is up? Spring has sprung, stylies.
Wow.
I do see it. It's true.
It's springing. It's true. It's springing.
It's true.
The crocuses are out.
The cloacas.
I saw a tulip.
You did?
Yeah.
I actually tiptoed through the tulips.
And I danced through the daisies.
That's great to hear.
And I ripped ass by the roses.
That's what I was afraid of.
I was going to say, it's great you guys are having fun with the springtime foliage, and you're not breaking wind.
Yeah, right.
I did smell a couple roses on my way home today, and one smelled really bad.
Oh, that must have been the one.
I should have warned you about that one.
Nasty boy.
Nasty boy is a nasty man.
That was on Hillhurst, yeah.
So wait a second.
Nasty Boy is a nasty man?
Oh, yeah.
That's mostly what he is.
Did you not know about that?
I was thinking that someday he'll grow up to be a nasty man.
No, they are one in the same.
We should do a version of Girl, you'll be a woman soon.
Nasty boy, you'll
be a nasty man soon.
Well, it's sort of like you've never seen
nasty boy in the same room as nasty
man. That's very true.
I love how
it's just so repetitive
for nothing that really exists.
There's nothing there.
There's nothing there. There's nothing there.
There's no there there.
You want to talk about something.
Here's some shit chat for you.
You guys ever be on your computer?
I was getting my computer set up here.
I start my recording.
I'm getting the Zoom link here so I can see you guys.
And I was just thinking how crazy it is
that whoever came up with,
I mean, I guess Bill Gates with Windows and stuff,
but the way that your computer works,
it's so amazing.
You click on the window you want to control,
and then you click on another window,
and you move this one out of the way,
so you can get,
oh, that's crazy that somebody came up with that,
and we all know how to use it.
It's a graphic interface.
I think you're right, Tim,
and what I think is so exciting
is that it's so intuitive
yeah did you ever have any friends or know anybody in school or anything who were like i use linux
you ever or like they use something that's not the normal stuff and it's way harder to use but
they feel cool well all my my family got a macintosh, one of the blue bubbly ones when those came out. And then nobody else that I knew had a Mac.
It was all PC computers.
And I think I couldn't really do much on my Mac.
Those were hip Macs.
They were hip Macs, but I didn't know what to do with it.
It was lost on me.
Yeah.
Macintosh type computer. do you ever use the did
you ever do paper i meant to say when we were no no no no dos no dos but i like number munchers
whatever that was on oh yeah that green little guy you make him eat all the equations there's
a version of that where you don't have to do math. And they were like, Oh, word munchers. We want you to do the math version.
I want food munchers.
He just goes around eating food.
I guess you can just do munchers.
Yeah.
No learning at all.
Anybody have any other shit chat?
Well, the cell phones too.
The iPhones.
The fact that those work too.
I can't believe it.
Whoever came up with this stuff,
come on.
Well, your lucky ears works.
I got one of these dang,
damn, you know, my phone.
You got bricked.
His phone bricked out.
What were you trying to say?
Blueberry?
Blackberry?
Bramble.
Bramble.
Hey, hey, hey.
Not quite yet.
What do you say?
But it's an Easter egg for the rest of the episode.
Yeah.
Foreshadowing.
That's good foreshadowing.
But for now, do you want to get into a little booze news?
Booze news hit.
Do you relax your throat and try to just...
Or are you sipping?
Because my thing with chugging...
That's what I do.
About half the time I gag when I'm doing that.
Sure.
You want to clean that thing.
Yeah.
Because if four of us are just silent going...
We're not sucking or fucking.
No matter what you hear,
you're not sucking or fucking each other's nicks
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email it to thesloppyboyspodcast at gmail.com.
Wow.
That one needed a little explicit content disclaimer on it, though.
Yeah, that's hovering over the line of proper talk and improper talk.
Right, and we do proper talk here on the pod. It's sprinting across the line.
Well, it didn't really say.
I did say some F-bombs and oh sure i um when i'm picking these booze
news themes and there's a lot of people listening to this show who are angry with me and hate me
because i haven't played their theme yet and i understand maybe i'm in deserving of being despised
but uh i've definitely had to parse out the filthy ones because I don't want to be
filth-cast, you know? But every once in a
while, hey, why not? Sure. Really?
And also, people who send these in,
you don't just get them on the air
because you send it in.
Well, it's good to know, for the listeners
and the people making them, to know
that Tim's got a lot
of... He's got a stock.
High volume. I've got a vault of them He's got a stock. Yeah.
High volume.
I've got a vault of them under my house.
I go down there.
I slip one in my DVDs.
I sneak it back up here.
I play it on the podcast.
Yeah.
There's got to be...
You got to know other ways to get music.
No.
Damn.
It's got to pass through those cotton DVDs.
You think I'm one of these Napster League freaks?
Napster did it.
Okay, today's booze news.
It's a very fun one.
We've seen other products like this before, but none took hold.
And I'm rooting for this one.
A fun one.
A fun one.
This is nice.
I was checking out, but you said fun one.
Now, what's this?
Yeah, you were kind of thinking it's Mary. Yeah, snoooze news this is usually where i take a little bit of a nap
this comes from uh melindo 64 on the discord which you can have uh access to and hobnob with
other slob heads if you subscribe to our patreon at the sloppy boys at The patreon.com slash the sloppy boys. Right, Jeff? Oh, yeah. That's right. Right, Jeff.
And the news is Coors Icicles.
That's right.
Coors Light Icicles.
A frozen treat.
Much like what are those?
The long sticks in the plastic tube that you squeeze up a flavor.
Yeah.
Flavor ice.
Flavor ice.
Yes.
Okay. tube that you squeeze up a flavor yeah flavor ice flavor ice yes okay well i'm looking at a silver
a metallic silver tube long and narrow uh that's has the coors logo on it and you keep them in the
freezer and you squeeze and you're a yellow frozen yellow brown beer it's beer flavor they say are they are they it's yeah it's Coors beer uh wait a second
non-alcoholic oh oh Coors icicles are non-alcoholic freezer icies with the cold crisp refreshing
flavor of Coors light oh well that's odd they I guess would beer not freeze? Or liquor doesn't freeze, but beer freezes.
Beer should freeze.
You could make a boozy popsicle.
It's been done.
But maybe it doesn't freeze.
Remember last time we were talking about the Apple Jack?
How it was alcoholic apple cider, but then froze kind of unevenly?
So maybe it does that.
Still, it doesn't need to be actual beer for
them to sell a beer styled popsicle why why do these companies miss uh they misinterpret their
own appeal so much like like hard hard monster yeah energy drink has no caffeine in it you know
you gotta you gotta you gotta give the people what they. I don't care if it's legal.
I don't care what the FDA says.
Yeah.
The FDA won't let me pay.
This one, well, I took this piece of news and I went on air with it because it's actually available. You know, like sometimes I click on these things and they're stunts.
But like you go to CoorsLight.com, you can buy these.
Six pack is 20 bucks you can order
them they're in stores also as well
so I was like this is legit but it's
a beer flavored
non-alcoholic freezer
pop I just don't
know I just don't get why you would
do why would
you drink like suck on a
beer flavored
popsicle does not sound good to me.
I don't know.
Maybe you're a jag off.
Beer flavor is not a refreshing flavor.
A lot of people drink non-alcoholic beer.
No?
Yeah, that's true.
Do they not?
But I feel like that's serving a different purpose.
That's serving like a, yeah, I guess if you just like the taste of non-alcoholic beer,
that's what you do all right
okay that's just how it's gonna be and i need to be okay with that i need to be okay this is the
new normal mike you have to adapt or die people are chewing on ice non-alcoholic beer okay yeah
and right now you're kind of having your fight or flight response. Fight, flight, or flight. Yeah, that's right. I'm looking at my...
Yeah, the hairs on my arms are sticking up.
I'm tense.
I'm in a fight position.
We should agree.
Like the three of us, when we're together,
if someone attacks us,
one person does fight, one flight, one freeze.
That way we have our bases covered.
I'll do flight.
No, you can't dibs flight.
I'll do freeze because I used to play hockey.
If you've got to fight...
I'm fight? You're Ninja Turtle guy.
Yeah, but...
Get my fucking ass kicked.
You're so violent.
You beat up all those guys on that Oculus game.
Oh, that's true.
I'll snap into my Oculus mode.
That's a good idea. that's a good idea that's a good idea next time just picture that everyone is an oculus
yes yes well video world's a lot easier than real world fighting
god i wish i could live in video world sometimes yeah Yeah, me too. Yeah. If I could go in, live inside any video game,
I'd live inside the world of Tapper.
Yeah.
Drinking, chugging Budweiser's to the dome.
I like the Tapper world when you get farther along,
you're like, you're in a bar,
then you're at a sporting event,
and then you're at like a punk club.
Punk bar, yeah.
And then what, back to the bar?
Yeah, I think I couldn't beat the punk one, and I was like, what's after this? And you're back to the bar and then... Yeah. I think I couldn't beat the punk one.
And I was like, what's after this?
And you're back to the first style or something.
I love that with old video games.
It's like, same thing, but just a little faster.
Yeah.
Three levels.
Wow.
All right.
There was another...
Hold on.
There was another Tapper game that was like Logger or Log Man or something like that.
Yeah.
Well, Tapper...
First of all, there's tapper
then there's root beer tapper because it became so popular with kids that they made a non-alcoholic
they took the budweiser branding off of it sure and then there's one called i want to say it's
called timber timber that's what it was but instead of pouring beers you chop trees yep
sure but they all have that delightful blue collar aesthetic. Yeah.
All right, Jeff, now you can send us away.
All right.
Is that it for Booze News?
Mm-hmm.
Nice.
Nicely done, Jeffy D.
I'd love to hear about the drink of the day.
Who's got it?
I've got it.
And before I get into it, maybe all eagle-eared listeners might remember that this episode was Spring Has Sprung style.
Do you guys remember that?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I know you mentioned it. I remember about rambling off about something like that
well you guys know that uh hey last week we did uh what we do last week
angel last week was the angel face hey well yeah well before that we were uh talking it was saint
patrick's day and then the angels face but then on our patreon we
did best spring thing no right and it's you might say that spring is the season that we're living in
and we wanted to we're back on the iba cocktail list right now and we have a very spring friendly Spring friendly sipper for the listenership today.
It is called the Bramble you've had.
No,
and not heard.
Yeah,
no,
only heard about it.
Not heard.
Only heard about it.
Perusing the IBA for little interesting ones.
Yes.
It's funny how,
like we always said,
like,
yeah,
it doesn't,
you haven't heard of the drink if you
just heard of it from the iba cocktailist but now that we're like what two and a half years into
this shit well i'm like yeah i've heard of that but it's like oh because two and a half years ago
i saw it on a website because for two years you saw it and went no no yeah i don't have
creme de mouro i don't i don't know what that is um well here's the deal um we've
got ourselves a new era drink guys you know the iba splits them up into three unforgettable oldies
uh contemporary classics and uh new era drinks i was sort of surprised ramble is such an old-timey
word to me i know um and this this this is this will be interesting because this is a moment in
cocktail history we i was surprised by this basically there was a hot shit bartender in
london in the 1980s named dick bradsell um who invented a bunch of drinks and we've, um, only name checked him on the pod once because he invented the espresso
martini.
But,
um,
he's basically like a Harry Craddock or a Harry McElhone who's invented a
bunch of drinks,
but it's eighties London,
which is interesting because he has good taste and,
you know,
he has like one foot in the old classics,
but then had modern taste,
but it's like the eighties, which we know to be the dark ages of cocktails and just sex on the beach and Long Island iced tea and sweet, sweet, sweet drinks.
But it seems like this guy was ahead of the curve.
This guy reminds me almost of like the 2000s cocktail resurgence type of shit, but he was doing it in the 80s.
So he's sort of like the Tom Cruise character.
Ah.
You know?
Was he doing poems in cocktail?
Yeah, is he a slam poet?
He's not a slam poet.
He's a little bit more of a dapper Dan than a party guy,
but people called him the cocktail king.
We could overwork that.
Was he part of the new wave scene?
I know in the 80s, London, new wave is sort of happening.
Post-punk, new wave.
Michael, no.
After punk, there's New Wave stuff happening.
You know what? You might be thinking of Flock of Seagulls.
Yeah, that's right.
Right.
And I run.
Is Duran Duran New Wave?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, baby.
Yes, they are. Oh, yeah. Oh, baby. Yes, they are.
Oh, yeah.
Oh.
So this guy isn't that.
He's a dapper Dan.
He's a dapper Dan.
Very un-new wave.
But, you know, I recognized him.
I looked at pics today, and I was like, I've seen this guy as like a talking head in a
martini documentary I watched on Prime.
But he has since died. basically we're talking about yeah a british guy in in fancy suits very charismatic
invented a lot of uh cocktails and that have this they were they're very modern for that their time he invented the bramble at fred's
club in soho in 1984 which is sort of an orwellian year if you ask me but um yeah wait he wanted to
create a british cocktail that conjured memories of going blackberrying in his childhood on the
isle of white the verb to blackberry yeah yeah you gotta
go blackberrying i mean these days with the smartphones everyone's blackberrying but i think
that's not what they mean here no no no but but but if they did they would be like oh they wow
the interface is so intuitive yeah yeah qwerty and touchscreen isle of wight i believe i believe that's an island off
the south of england it's like there's like a music festival there and famous recordings of uh
i've listened to like a black bear isle of wight name checked in when i'm 64 if i believe
oh oh i think it's sort of a carnival-y summer vacation-y uh boardwalk-y kind of a place. Okay. And the name of this drink, the Bramble,
comes from the fact that blackberry bushes are called brambles.
Boom.
There's a Jenny's ice cream flavor called Bramble Berry Crisp.
Okay, they're being cute.
They are being cute.
But what we're talking about here is basically a gin sour,
which you may know is Neil Campbell's first drink at University of Iowa,
but a gin sour with some blackberry liqueur to make it this sort of
nostalgic blackberrying British cocktail.
And here is the IBA recipe. 50 milliliters gin 25 milliliters fresh lemon juice
12 and a half milliliters you know so half uh uh you know half of 25 uh uh sugar syrup now when
they say sugar syrup we're talking simple right not right? Not like just wet sugar. Yeah, that's what
I assumed, but that's a good question.
Why isn't there uniformity
in the IBA list?
I don't know. I don't know.
The whole group needs to...
They need to have a meeting. The IBA's days are numbered.
We don't have to put up with this much longer.
Yeah.
I can't wait until they're a distant memory
and you say hey tim remember the
iba and i'll say well i haven't thought of that on you um the method here is pour all ingredients
into a cocktail shaker except the creme oh wait did i skip that one yeah the most important
ingredient after the sugar syrup i didn't say 15 milliliters or half an ounce of creme de more how do you guys
do creme de more oh not so good al i had to get creme de cassis not bad not a bad substitute it
was so i looked it up i said what can you substitute for the more and they said cassis
now creme de more is a blackberry liqueur from France.
I want to say creme de cassis is blackcurrant.
I think that is the difference.
Pretty close.
And also blackberry is not black raspberry also.
Different fruits.
Isn't that crazy?
Isn't that crazy?
I don't know that I've ever had a black raspberry.
It sounds good.
I've snuck them into pies you've had.
Yeah, yeah, you've had. you've had yeah yeah you've had
one time i stuck my thumb in a pie and i pulled it out and i think there was one of those right
on there no one time i stuck my uh stuck my job okay anyway uh proper this is why this is why
people come at us with those booze news themes jeff because they got a lot to pull from with you
specifically they say hey well this is the sleazy perv show.
I'll sing to their level when I'm making a Booze News theme.
Yeah, we need your Booze News themes to elevate what's going on here.
Jeff, how did you do in the blackberry liqueur department?
Okay, I got Chambord because I've always wanted it, you know?
So that's the Chambord.
The little very famous, you know the round bottle.
It's a black raspberry liqueur.
Black raspberry liqueur.
But I also broke into your house and got a little of that Morde.
Great.
Morde?
M-U-R-E, but the U has a little accent on it.
M-U-R-E.
M-U-R-E.
M-U-R-E.
I'm guessing it's French.
Because I read that the Morde was hard to find and that everybody uses Chambord.
I thought that too i went to cap and cork found two bottles of two options of more the more creme de more and they had the chambord and they had like a lot they had like um blackberry
brandy and blackberry schnapps so folks really you got options chill and get whoever yeah just put some sort of
blackberry ish thing on top of this um here's the method pour all ingredients into a cocktail
shaper except the creme de boire shake well with ice strain into chilled old-fashioned glass
filled with crushed ice was a very posh thing at the time 1984 people loved crushed ice. Crushed ice was a very posh thing at the time. 1984, people loved crushed ice.
Then pour the blackberry liqueur,
creme de mer,
over the top of the drink in a circular motion.
Oh, a floater.
Garnish optionally with a lemon slice
and blackberries.
I have a big bag of crushed ice.
I've got blackberries.
I'm going to be having fun here, man.
Me too.
Me too.
I bought a fruit cup.
I got to crush my own ice right now.
That is fucking great.
So we got to crush ice.
We got to squeeze lemons.
Here's how you crush ice, Mike.
You put the ice in a pillowcase and hit it with a hammer.
I'm going to put it in a plastic bag, I think.
No, Mike, I'm sorry.
It's got to be a pillowcase.
I feel like I'm going to get linty ice that way.
I think it's supposed to be linty ice.
Linty ice, speaking of which, was my rap name in 1984.
Oh, come on.
Come on.
That can't be true at this point.
That can't be the case.
That's cap.
That's cap.
That's major cap.
Major cap for y'all.
Okay, thank you.
All right.
I'm going to clean.
No more cap. Major cap for y'all. Okay, thank you. All right. I'm going to clean. No more cap.
And then we're going to whisk away and juice some lemons and crush some ice.
And when we come back, first sips.
Oh.
Rock and roll.
The first sips. and we're back brambles in hand nice let's see him oh we got a very similar looking drinks here
yeah now so the color sank huh that was interesting because they told us to swirl it on top, but then it fell right to the bottom.
All of us.
It looks cool.
It does look cool.
I had one major disaster, which was my simple syrup.
I left it in the cabinet thinking that's okay.
Why is it not okay?
It had a bunch of furry fucking moss fungus.
Mold is the word I'm looking for. Let's be mold damn moldy mossy boy and and here's what i did i just sort of moved the mold aside and i still poured
it in my drink so let's see how this goes down oh yeah i'm sure that's fine yeah that's really good
you know what happens is the gin kills the the contamin. Yeah. Not to mention the lemon.
Yeah.
All right, sips.
I think I got to stir mine
because it's so down the bottom.
Mmm.
Up top, we got a gin sour
that basically tastes like a Tom Collins
minus the bubbles.
Delicious.
Now, let's go on down below.
That's good.
This is springy.
Spring has sprung.
Oh, spring has sprung.
Well, I think I got to stir mine a little too.
Hold on.
Spring hasn't sprung over here yet.
Off he goes.
Now, I stole a sip of creme de mouro on the way in.
Very deep, dark flavor.
Reminded me of cherry hearing.
Yeah, very rich, huh?
Very rich.
And I also took a little sip of Chambord for comparison.
That was delicious as well.
A little bit brighter, a little weaker, less sludge-like,
but still very good and very simple.
I'm about to do that.
Oh, this is a very good drink.
Oh, blackberry off the top.
Beautiful.
Ooh, that's good.
I may have put a little too much lemon juice in mine.
I could imagine scaling back on the lemon as well.
I'm really surprised this is from 1984.
Isn't it so, like, springtime and beautiful for such a weird time?
I wasn't listening.
You're surprised that Orwell book is from 1984?
I don't think it was written in 1984, Tim.
What year was it written?
It's titled 1984.
That's about as far as we know.
Okay.
It's one of these books, a big part of it was not saying what year it was written.
Let's see, 1984, Orwell.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I probably don't even look it up, Tim.
I probably let that one slide.
1949.
Woo!
Ooh.
I read Animal Farm in school.
And 1984 as well.
Yeah, sure.
Okay, back to the drink at hand.
I can't believe this came out in the years when people were drinking the Woo Woo and the Cape Codder.
Oh, Cape Codder's not too far.
I feel like old Jay Gats should be drinking this.
Exactly.
Out on the lawn.
Drink this in a white suit on the lawn.
Did you try some of that, your creme de cassis or whatever you have over there without the.
Yeah.
It's good.
It's like.
Chambord tastes like cough syrup.
I know. Yes, it does. Chambord does have a cough syrupy tastes like sir oh not bad though okay i mixed this up and this is damn it i get
nice very good very well balanced i'm not worried about the lemon anymore the crushed ice gets very
melty very fast the the the creme de more mixed in with everything and that is
one of the best cocktails we've had on this podcast yeah this is great distinct and you
don't get a springtime treat like that ever i'll tell you what the name creme de cassis or creme
de more doesn't sound like something that's gonna to just on its own taste good. Also, it sounds creamy.
Yeah.
Why do they say cream when they mean liqueur, basically?
Well, I think they mean it like jack it off.
Oh, yeah. They jack off the fruits.
Well, I'll just say this is drink is so good.
You're going to beat your meat.
That's cream your fucking jeans.
Choke your chicken.
Flog your fucking dolphin.
Whatever it is.
Manually gratify yourself.
Okay.
Self-stimulation.
Oh, baby.
This crushed ice is really fun, too.
I crushed it, too, with a hammer and everything.
I had a bag from the grocery store that had melted in my power outage,
and it reformed as just a block.
Ooh.
So I chunked it up with a hammer, and I got nice big hunks and chunks.
I put mine in the plastic bag, as I talked about,
and then took a frying pan and banged it around,
and my neighbors came over and said,
Are you okay in there?
We're ready to bust this door down and hurt
whoever's hurting you.
I'm good. I'm doing the pod.
You heard him. I heard you, dude.
They said, we should have known. We love the pod, Mike.
We love the pod. Good luck with the
frying pan, dude.
We're getting set to listen to last week's
because you're recording this week's.
I said, wow, you guys don't even know the schedule?
We love you, man. You made the whole building whole building you brought us all together we're a community now
you know i had the impact i'm just doing my thing i'm not trying to be you know the guy
who brings the whole building together but right shit yeah shit i'm the fucking guy who brought
the fucking building together shit i'm the fucking guy i guess i'm the fucking guy it's true they what they say no man is an
island mike you touch everybody that you come into contact with no man is an island boy
i really i can't believe those guys were one hit wonders The island boy guys
I know that sucks
I thought they would have a big discography
Speaking of big discography
This week we're talking about 100 gecks on the blowout
Check it out folks
10,000 gecks
Not a disappointment in my opinion
The latest from 100 gecks
Yeah
10,000 gecks
Speaking of 100 gex yeah thousand ten thousand gex yes um speaking of uh well rock and and bands and all
that stuff um did did i mentioned you guys off pod what happened to me when i was buying the uh
ingredients for this drink no let's see i don't know you i was listening pretty carefully as you
were talking about the mixing the ingredients. The recipe, history.
So I must have left it out because you got every word.
Well, you know, I live in Los Feliz, California, beautiful town.
And I went down to Cap and Cork where I buy my premium liqueurs.
Very helpful place.
I like to talk to the owner.
He steers me in the direction of replacements or recommendations.
Cap and cork for the Calpe dork.
That hurt my feelings really bad.
Mike, how could you say that on pod?
That was the full intention, to hurt.
To hurt and to harm.
Okay, well, apologize and I'll continue.
Ruthless.
I guess we're not going anywhere.
I'm kidding.
I'm sorry.
You're proud of what you've done. I wanted to hurt you and now you're in pain i'm sorry i apologize i apologize um i forgive
you and um so i was talking to the the owner of cap and cork i was like you know i need this stuff
uh creme de more and and you know he had it and we had it but i was asking like what's it tastes like what's um you know what's the flavor of this what's the fruit that this creme de mor is made from and
and he was like he started scratching his head it's that um he couldn't remember what is it and
and i was like i i could it's gotta be and wait you asked specifically the fruit right you said
what's the fruit creme de mor what's the the fruit? Yeah. What's the fruit that this is of?
What the flavor of?
Just making sure I'm getting, yes, the fruit was what you asked about.
It's kind of a hornet's nest of a subject.
So we kind of got lost in the weeds a little bit.
It's a hornet's nest of a subject.
I was a little bit overwhelmed.
Sure.
And he suggested, why don't you just kind of cool down for a second?
Why don't we pause and you go get some fresh air?
Yeah.
Which is smart.
If you're feeling emotional, remove yourself from the situation,
get your wits about you.
Yeah.
So I go out to the parking lot.
I had started to hyperventilate.
So I'm out in the parking lot kind of cooling down.
Doing a little Lamaze.
Were you breathing into like the paper bag?
Yeah.
Yeah, but I had to get one of those big grocery bags.
Boom.
So I'm starting to calm down, starting to get some oxygen to all the different,
the cortex and the cerebrum and the cerebellum and all that.
And then who do I
see in the
parking lot but
70s rockers Ram Jam.
The obscure
70s rock band.
You saw the whole band.
They were there. They were standing
only in Hollywood, man. Ram Jam.
They have a hit that everyone knows.
I just can't think of it.
So that's okay for now.
I couldn't think of it either.
I was like, Ram Jam, I love your shit, man.
You're good.
Everything about you.
I love your shit.
I love your hit.
So you can see this was a 180 for me.
I'd been really sad and overwhelmed.
I was Ram Jam, dude.
I love.
I'm picking up what you're putting down, dudes.
Okay. I'm getting all this stuff that happened i get it yeah anyway i explained they're like tim they recognize me you know from the rock guitar community and they're like tim what seems to be
the problem you're all flush in the face and i was like well you know here's i explain the situation
you know like what fruit does creme de mouro come from? And they had kind of all got a knowing grin across their faces and they nodded to each
other like, I think we can answer this guy.
And I was like, what is this?
What, you know, what are you going to say?
And they're like, they told me, we're going to tell you.
Yeah.
So I reached for my smartphone and I hit record.
Thank God.
Beautiful interface on that smartphone, by the way.
Oh my God.
Graphic interface.
It's all beautiful.
Very intuitive.
My thumb goes right to the record button.
Big red button.
Booge.
Just as Ram Jam says this.
Hit the clip. Whoa, Blackberry, Bramble Bram Whoa, Blackberry, Bramble Bram
Blackberry and a drink
Bramble Bram, well it's not gonna stink
Bramble Bram, Shambord will do fine
Bramble Bram, but you're the right type
Bramble Bram, whoa, Blackberry
Bramble Bram, whoa, Blackberry
Bramble Bram
Oh, wow
Oh my gosh
Blackberry's got a drink Yeah, yeah, yeah Oh, that was Oh, my gosh. Blackberry's got a drink.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, that was...
Wait, their song is Black Betty.
Oh, that's the random hit.
That's the word I was looking for.
Yes.
Right.
I should have known that because we were talking about so much about blackberries, blackberries.
I should have jumped to Black Betty.
Damn, I wish I had thought of that.
Well, you blanked, I guess.
I totally blanked.
Too many brambles for me.
So I went back.
I marched down back into the store and I said, blackberry.
And the owner of Cap'n Cork was, absolutely, that's right.
How'd you know?
And I said, ram jam.
He said, right.
Yeah, for him, it wasn't so much of like an odyssey.
It was just like, oh, yeah, yeah.
He knew he didn't want to, he was just quizzing you,
so he wasn't going to tell you the answer.
I see.
I wonder, that's a good story, Tim.
You really set up what you were doing there.
But I don't know why you were so sad,
or that we had to hear about you being so sad and flustered.
I thought maybe that would have shown up. If they came into the store? You were so sad and... Or that we had to hear about you being so sad and flustered. Well, because I...
I thought maybe...
Had to go?
That would have shown up.
If they came into the store?
Oh, you...
I mean, what you said is fact.
What happened, happened.
But...
Well, yeah, that's public record.
They could have come into the store, but...
Just to streamline the story and what we were getting at,
I just don't know what...
I thought maybe Ram Jam would have sang about your emotions somehow.
I feel like Ram Jam, they probably would have just went about their day
had they not seen a man in need, a man in crisis.
Right.
Right.
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
Do you know a lot about Ram Jam?
I kind of know nothing.
So you're right.
You've had an interaction with him.
I shouldn't even be questioning this.
I just might.
Well, I mean, that was my only interaction. i didn't talk to them in any other way i mean but between the three of
us you're the expert yeah yeah yeah like for example whoever meets the band is the expert
like mike you once saw lizzie caplan stub her toe uh on my block when you were coming to my
christmas party i didn't see that, so I would defer to you about any
party-down fact. I'm the go-to Kaplan guy.
And so you don't see Tim saying
like, oh, she should have been in a
car, or she could have also
been on a lime scooter.
Right.
Or a bird scooter, even. Bird scooter,
Lyft scooters now.
I think those Revel scooters are big.
Maybe back to the classic Razor. Whatever happened to Razor scooters now. I think those Revel scooters are big. Maybe back to the classic Razor.
Whatever happened to Razor scooters, okay?
What's it called where you're riding the scooter
and then you kick it and the whole foot thing
goes towards the front of the stick
and then right back under your feet?
That's got to be in Around the World.
Probably in Around the World.
Roundhouse.
Picture Lizzie Kaplan.
She doesn't stub her toe.
She does it in Around the World on a Razor world. Roundhouse. Picture Lizzie Kaplan. She doesn't stub her toe. She does an around the world on a razor scooter.
Hell yeah.
Wow.
I'd see her do that in a movie.
Yeah.
That would be like the Spider-Verse version of that story.
I don't want to make a second one yet.
How about that?
How about that?
Well, it's quite a to-do to make a second one.
Springtime is not a chugging moment.
It's not, you know, about getting tanked up.
It's about you put on a nice seersucker suit.
You walk to the nearest garden.
Yeah.
And you hang out in a gazebo with a bramble, talking to the birds.
Sure.
You take a ramble with a bramble.
That's what springtime is.
There you go. Maybe you see a squirrel a ramble with a bramble. That's what springtime is. There you go.
Maybe you see a squirrel or a bunny or a chipmunk.
That could be a whole viral springtime thing for us.
Take a ramble with a bramble.
Tag us on your bramble ramble, you know?
Ooh.
Ooh, that's good.
It's just a bunch of people getting open container tickets.
Public intoxication.
Bobo no no.
What's brilliant about this drink?
Tell them.
The brilliant thing about this drink is that the creme de
more was so deep and dark when I
tried it on its own, but you add it to the gin
sour, it brightened right up.
Bingo. Yeah. And gin
is floral. Lemon
is springtime. Birds and bees are getting together
doing the horizontal mambo baby doing yeah birds and bees are coming nasty boys turn into a nasty
man this bird's a nasty boy and the bees are nasty man all right well uh what if i just do a quick chug and then i will make another one i'm going to do
the sham board version great okay how about you are you guys doing a second round or is it just me
i'll do the sham board version as well oh it's so good timmy likey all right folks it's almost
like a better like uh it's like a pink
lemonade or something, you know? I'm gonna try
something. I'm gonna do
Oh yeah, would you change anything? I'm gonna try
a one for one gin
and cassis.
Really?
One to one. One to one.
What about lemon?
Maybe a squeeze
of lemon. Just a little touch.
Just a touch.
I don't think I need the sweet in there.
Great.
I'll let you know.
I'm excited to hear what comes out of the test kitchen.
Yeah.
Folks, why don't you take a listen to these ads, and when we come back round two i did sham board look at it check it out a little lighter huh
your sham board it looks darker than mine, though. Did you double it up?
No, I'm a law-abiding citizen.
Oh, see, I think that's... I was going to say, I took a little sip of the Chambord,
and I was like, because it's a lighter flavor,
like, the creme de mousse took over my drink.
The Chambord did not.
So I'm thinking that if you use Chambord,
you might need to double or triple your measurements here,
but yours looks fine.
It does look darker on the screen but um i think it's just the lighting of like the webcam or
something mine mine copy copy webcams can be very dark irl looks like mine's really dark i did just
half and half my god that looks like prune juice wow yeah it's uh it's not bad because i do like
the creme de cassis taste but it does need i didn't put any
lemon in probably lemon could could be used sharp it up okay i i just mine i took it i can taste the
chambord in here but i would definitely double it it's not like as flavored as the creme de more was
double i would say honestly the the best approximation of creme de mort is more like cherry hearing or even like Luxardo juice dripped from your cherry jar.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's pretty rich.
Yeah.
Pretty rich.
I'm going to go ahead and say this is a great drink to drink.
Great.
I can't wait to hear more about it when we get to final thoughts.
That's not now.
No, go ahead, Mike.
Mike seems to be going rogue in breaking format, but...
Order again.
Wow.
That's all there is to it.
Again and again.
The whole podcast I've been saying I do like it,
so yes, I'm going to stick with a order again.
Wow, the big reveal.
I'll say it's a, could it be a Stone Cold Classic?
Can something go from never even heard of it before to it's a Stone Cold Classic?
I think last episode we reminded you about the term Stone Cold Classic.
Now you want to do it.
Now I want to dole it out.
Mike, there was a drink a few weeks ago that you didn't like and then you called it a Stone Cold Classic. Now you want to do it. Now I want to dole it out. Mike, there was a drink
a few weeks ago that you didn't like and then you
called it a Stone Cold Classic.
I know, and I think I was right in that.
Might makes right. Are you pulling
the trigger on that, Jeff?
What do you mean, pulling the trigger on that? Stone Cold
Classic. Yeah.
Me too. This
is... I'm going to come right out and say it
you know i was gonna just say that it's one of the best cocktails we've had on the podcast but
i my expectations were low because i hadn't had it and it's so good so that it's like
it gets extra points it's the most surprise the most wow surprising the most
pleasant surprise on the podcast i mean not at a trinidad sour level because that's almost like a
novelty drink but this is a stone cold classic and it's i didn't even read that it's a spring
cocktail but i think it's such a spring cocktail.
This is a hole in the calendar.
You need.
I think the bee's knees is good.
The yellow bird is good. But I would say this is like hot shit because it's not even a lot of ingredients.
It's a gin sour plus a blackberry liqueur.
It's very doable.
You know what?
You're saying this is an SCC.
Mike, next time you're having one
of your get-togethers in a park,
you arrive there
and have a thermos of gin
sour, and you're pouring it onto
the ice, and then as you're handing out
the glasses to people, you're putting a little swirl
of the creme de mer on there, and
everyone's saying, Mike, I didn't used to like
you at all.
Now I think you're one of my top guys.
I can't believe you got invited to this thing.
Mike, you are almost improved.
Well, that is interesting because usually,
like I like your idea of, yeah, as you're doling them out,
usually I don't dole out.
I get there, I put my thermos down and lay on a blanket
and say, the drinks and the thermos, you figure it out.
I'll be in the bathroom. I'll be in the bathroom.
I'll be in the bathroom.
Don't interrupt me.
I sat on a hornet. I'll be in the bathroom.
I might even declare this
best use of gin.
Wow.
Wow.
Name a better gin drink. You can't.
Martini. This guy knowing full well he's got two martini
heads sitting right in front of him two martini heads who know where he lives by the way and know
his weaknesses i i prefer the the the the martini and i will probably attack you in your sleep jeff
but yeah okay here's my thinking br Bramble Collins topped us with soda.
Go for a little walk.
Go for a Bramble Ramble.
Make a big one, you know?
Walk around.
Make a big one.
If fucking ACABs come up to you, you tell them to blow off, man.
I'm having a Bramble Ramble with a Collins.
Folks listening at home, you know, I like a martini as well,
but you know i'm an
ice freak and a lime freak and why this doesn't have lime it's got a little sharp citrus and it's
very refreshing so you can see why i would step out of line and say something like best use of gin
it's really good it's a very good drink it's kind of crazy very good drink another uh spring drink this could be this could be our
near future but uh always uncertain the future is um indiana's dad grogu's dad
no it's adult grogu no no let's not get into it p Pim's Cup. Pim's Cup.
Right, right, right.
That's springy.
That's springy, is it not? And it's probably on the IBA, right?
I don't think it is.
It should be.
Well, next week we're doing Pim's Cup.
I love those.
You get a little sliced cucumber.
You get the special cup.
Oh, a cucumber, eh?
What do you do, though, with the rest of the bottle of Pim's
after you've had a Pim's Cup?
Is there anything else that's a Pim?
Pour another Pim's Cup the bottle of Pimms after you've had a Pimms cup? Is there anything else that's a Pim? Pour another Pimms cup.
Pour another Pimms.
Have a pint of Pimms.
I had one in, the first one I had was around the Christmas time.
And so the first time we started the podcast, when Christmas rolled around, I said, hey, Pimms cup.
And one of you, probably Tim, said, nah, that's spring.
Yeah.
So here we are.
Time to pay the piper.
I said that because I had it in London in spring, but...
No, but you're right.
It's got like garden vegetables in it.
It's got like cucumbers and stuff.
Well, you know, they say when spring is sprung, up goes the thumb.
When asked if you want Pim's cup, chum.
I've heard a lot of people saying that, and I didn't know what it was in reference to.
Yeah, it'll probably come up tomorrow or in the next podcast during the history portion.
All right.
Well, that's exciting.
Are we going to, can we commit to it now?
Yes.
Yes.
Great.
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