The Sloppy Boys - 155. New York Sour
Episode Date: October 6, 2023The guys mix up a classic sour with a Big Apple twist. And by Big Apple, I mean red wine. And by twist, I mean poured on top. Plus the return of a certain delightful segment!NEW YORK SOUR RECIPE60 ml ...Rye Whiskey or Bourbon22.5 ml Simple syrup30 ml Fresh lemon juiceFew Drops of Egg White15 ml Red wine (Shiraz or Malbec)Pour all ingredients into the shaker. Shake vigorously with ice. Strain into a chilled rocks glass filled with ice. Float the wine on top. Garnish with lemon or orange zest with cherry.(Recipe via the International Bartenders Association) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love.
I'm Jeff Dutton along with Mike Hanford.
Hi.
And Tim Kalpakis.
What is up?
And we're your hosts, fresh back from El Paso.
Yee-wee.
Yeehaw.
The toasts of the film world.
Can you believe this?
Thanks to everyone who came out.
That was really cool.
And we're glad you had some fun.
People told me they had fun.
And unless they were lying to me.
Hey, hopefully more of the same.
Next stop, Golden Globes.
That's right.
Yeah.
Hopefully we become the glitterati of the indie film scene.
Like the Duplass brothers.
Get out of here, Duplass brothers.
Make way for the slops.
I hope we're glitterati and not shitterati, okay?
Yeah, I'm with you.
What's that Duplass movie?
It's a scary movie.
It's called...
Damn, now I got to look it up. Is it the duplass ghosts the puffy chair returns
no no no no more jokes please we're not doing joke day today it's not joke day ah we forgot
about talk like a pirate thing that's fine damn year three of it whiffing by i did notice it creep the movie is called creep
oh and creep 2 see those movies they're scary tremendous is it an adaptation of the radiohead
song yeah and it's a spooky fright yeah it's a spooky fright for a Friday night. That's the fucking movies
we should be doing on the blowout. Creep 2?
Creep 1!
And 2. Creep 2!
I think he's making a Creep 3,
hopefully.
You ever see any of those Duplasses?
In real life? No, just like, you know,
do you like those? The mumblecore?
Yeah, I tell you, I like Creep 1 and Creep 2.
Okay. No, I haven't seen 1 and Creep 2. Okay.
No, I haven't seen their other movies or his other movies.
If it's two, it's the brothers, right?
Duplass brothers?
Yeah.
I've only seen Room 230, not Room 234. That's the Kubrick doc.
Yeah, yeah.
But they had that HBO show, and I've seen Puffy Chair,
but in general, that mumblecore stuff,
that was a big thing that kind of happened.
We missed it. That was like
after we left school, I feel like.
Yeah, you can still watch
things when you're not in school.
Well, I came out with a little music video. Did you guys see it?
Oh, yeah. Oh, we loved it.
Laughed my ass off, danced my ass off.
I liked it and re-shared it.
What's it going to be? Track five.
The least listened to track on the album, turns out.
Really? But that's the one you want to make a video for.
That's interesting, Jim. I was wondering.
Give it the old video boost.
And did it work?
No.
They're flying off the shelf.
So are we like traditionally the Sloppy Boys and Dutz, I mean, we might be bad at choosing
singles because you never like like you got to choose the
singles before the album.
But the problem with us, the whole album's good.
The deep cuts are blowing up all over the Internet.
Oh, man.
Why do our deep cuts have to be so viral, man?
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
Well, then you got you got all the A&R guys going.
I was like, you know, we get we've picked out the singles for you.
So I think we know what we're doing.
And they said, no, you don't.
You're not as big as Aerosmith yet.
I said, okay.
We're not?
Okay.
These A&R guys, they don't know shit.
They don't know anything about Aerosmith.
It's kind of weird that when we were growing up, music videos were like the thing, you know?
Yeah.
And now it's like, it just becomes C-level.
Like if you have a band, gotta you gotta make videos or you want
to make videos and then they come out and uh then you move on i haven't seen music video like anytime
i see them it's just on youtube but like they all kind of seem like they have no budget yeah they
don't you know what i mean like it's just kind of a cool costume and maybe a couple different
locations and some different like cool costs i'm thinking thinking of like, uh, the Dutz video.
It's a cool costume and maybe a couple locations.
I don't know.
It's exactly what it is.
It's a garage.
But I'm trying to think like,
but Doja Cat maybe is somewhat of video I've seen in the past couple of years.
And it's just like,
she's got some interesting looks,
different spots and the feature who's on there featuring shows up.
And then we're done.
Yeah. Well, that's funny. You, I feel like you chose the one, the one artist that actually is doing a lot with videos. different spots and the feature who's on their featuring shows up and then we're done yeah well
that's funny you i feel like you chose the one the one artist that actually is doing a lot with
videos but i but in general i feel like the the video now is just sort of like on the day the song
drops like a lot of time you're hearing the song for the first time with the video and like anything
it's just that day on your phone and then everything moves, moves on. Whereas like music videos used to be pummeled with a music video, uh, you know, for like months and be like, man, I've seen this one so much, but like, really, I feel like if it doesn't even like, what's the biggest, like, like WAP.
Yeah. Right. yeah right you saw that a lot but did you ever re-watch the whole video no you watched the whole video one time on the day and then you saw like still like screenshots from it from that point
forward sure like even lately the biggest music videos that i can think of that got re-watched
are like this is america and hotline bling and these are like five year old videos eight year
old videos oh yeah you're right.
It's crazy.
It's just not the culture that it used to be.
That one, This is America, the Childish Gambino video happened during my two weeks as a guest writer at SNL.
Oh, that's crazy.
Donald Glover, he was the host and musical guest for week one.
And they purposely, brilliantly like yeah dropped that
video like while the show i feel like he played the song in the first music set up wow and then
during that commercial break at like midnight they dropped that song it was like live and it felt
the cool thing about being at snl is you kind of feel like you're at the center of pop culture but
he they really his like team whoever thought that up it was like though the next day
the he broke the internet he broke the internet yeah did you go up to that team like between
sketches were you like beautiful move yeah i said which one of you sons of bitches thought of that
because i want to shake your hand that's a great move guys you're a man after my own heart two of a kind i'm buying
you a scotch at the after after party okay my man and hey put her there we got a collab
but hey put her there uh i think i i told you guys also that the uh you know donald glover
is like the epitome of a big star pops a big star quality even before he was famous we kind of like
you know bumped into around ucb and stuff the man had star quality right and you go whoa there's a
star look at charisma charisma got that riz yeah yeah riz charisma and riz before we knew who riz
was this guy put the riz and charisma um he i remember going into his dressing room like
during a commercial break or like some or maybe right before the show started because we had like
cut a line from a sketch and he and i are like the same age and like both like you see me guys
and stuff i was like hey uh donald so basically we uh cut the sketch but we cut here's what we're
gonna and i'm like showing him like on a script and I have lines crossed out.
I'm sweating.
And he's like, he was having his makeup done.
He is like, okay, cool, man.
I was like, this guy's about to host SNL.
And he's so chill.
Cool, man.
What do you mean?
Cool, man.
We're freaking out.
Are you fucking stupid?
Did you not hear what I said?
We cut the line.
I started slapping him around.
No, the makeup's all wrong.
Shaking him by the collar.
I can't do this.
You calm fuck.
Why am I putting his makeup on?
This is all wrong.
Man, that's funny.
I saw a video where he was talking about coming out with that video.
And he was saying that, like, yeah, we dropped it during SNL because, like, how do you cut through the noise?
And I was like, damn, even Donald Glover is thinking about how you cut through the noise.
You gotta cut through the noise.
Somebody should tell him.
If you want to cut through the noise, have a Patreon podcast called The Blowout and maybe Questions for Lennon.
That'll cut through the noise.
Yeah, see, this pod, the pod you're listening
to right now, that's the noise.
This is the noise that we put out
every week. And then the Patreon, that's where
you cut through the noise.
Cut through the noise and get
to spending on the
Patreon, folks. Thank you very much.
And also maybe head on over to sloppyboys.com
by us teachers. Yeah, that's where you cut
through the noise fashion-wise.
We got so many different styles for, you know, back to school.
We've extended the back to school sale all year long.
Thank you for mentioning the styles, Mike,
because you'll notice that, well, actually,
I was going to say we have long sleeves up there, but we don't.
No, we don't have long sleeves up there.
No, we don't. It's T-shirts.
It's T-shirts.
And you're going to want them for the fall and the winter oh because what are you gonna wear into your sweater order two t-shirts layer the t-shirts get nice and warm in the center of
your body you don't need the sleeves you you want your wool and then you don't have pants
buy a third and put rabbit around your waist a t--shirt? Wear it like a diaper. That's right.
All I'm saying is, get a t-shirt.
You're going to need something to put under that rough, rough fall sweater.
Ugh.
Whoa.
All right.
All right, do you feel caught up with your boys?
It's time.
It's time.
It's time for Booze News.
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Jacked by June.
Big yellow blue.
Disco aperitivo.
Grimace is fucking toad, apparently.
Blackout Raged Gallant.
Citric acid.
Chip dip is sauce now.
Yo, slick.
Blow.
It's food.
You son of a bitch. Bitch.
Belle Biv Dutso was sent to us by John French. And if you have a booze news theme, email it to the sloppy boys podcast at gmail.com.
Jacques Francais.
Is he related to Jack French?
Jacques Francais.
From the birthday boy sketch.
All your favorites are back. Yeah. he related to Jack French? Jacques Francais? From the Birthday Boys sketch, all your favorites are back?
Yeah.
What's John in French?
Jean.
Jean.
Jean.
Right, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
Jean Francais.
Jean Paul.
That was a good joke on Birthday Boys
that all your favorites are back.
It said, on screen,
it showed Jeff in a French outfit
and it said Jacques Francais,ff in a french outfit and it said jacques francais but then
the vo said jack french jack french um also great joke there john francais putting in the
the shitty saxophone from the let's party video yeah yeah speaking of videos banger by john haskell
love that guy love Love that director.
He's one of, do you guys know the sketch group in New York, College Guys?
Oh, yeah.
Ah, yes.
They're putting out stuff all the time.
Mike Hanford, John Haskell, really good stuff.
Question for you, Mike.
Yeah.
When you do that, like, hey, what do you do?
Stuff that you see on TikTok.
Are you really just asking passersby what they do to get those
things yeah just to get a few normal ones that's fine skew it it's funny that new yorkers are so
used to that that they just answer and keep walking like it's a part of life well i will say
this the the people who when we did one that was like what are you listening to people were more
apt to like say something the what do you do we had a lot of people who just like nope so i don't
want to talk about this uh so sometimes when you see those like real tiktok videos like what do you do
how much you make those must take them a long time to make because we weren't finding people who are
so ready to talk i wonder why that is because like it's gauche to talk about money maybe that's it
but also i bet you have a lot of people with like fake ass jobs or just jobs that are hard to explain
yeah yeah that's true a lot of gig economy people's like jobs or just jobs that are hard to explain yeah yeah that's
true a lot of gig economy people's like i do this and this and this if somebody asked me i don't
know what i'd say i would stammer i would say get the hell away from me um but with it with the
earphones one like people have to be like wait what huh and then you kind of can answer right
away and there's there is an answer because it's just like what are you listening to yeah you know
like right then and there yeah no no one was rude but just a lot of people were just like
not gonna answer us no one was rude i don't think so i hate having to do that in any shoot i i never
want to have to like oh go fuck with people go talk to that person go you know like i yeah it's
just the worst it's tough it's tough i shot a branded
pepsi ad in denver one time where they clearly wanted uh billy eichner and instead got me
and i was like running around the bullhorn trying to fuck with people and i was i was like
this is like i can't think of anything less fun on earth than walking up to people like
what answer a trivia question about soda yeah and they're like yes please and i'm like, want to answer a trivia question? About soda?
Yeah.
And they're like, yes, please.
And I'm like, no, no.
Oh, no, don't.
Want to answer a question?
Yes.
Oh.
Oh.
No.
Okay.
Booze news.
You guys are rock dudes, correct?
That's right.
Have you heard about the recently unearthed Steely Dan tracks?
No.
Yes, but go on, Tim.
Well, we've talked on the pod about, and Mike was predicting Sting is up next,
but the Grateful Dead, Fleetwood Mac, and especially Steely Dan have had resurgences in the last three years.
Almost like a Gen Z finding them for the first time.
It's funny.
It'll be like Twitter babes being like, I'm obsessed with Gen Z finding Steely Dan and get into it.
So there's a real Steely Dan moment going on.
like finding Steely Dan and get into it. So,
so there's a real Steely Dan moment going on.
So it was very good timing for,
I guess like,
uh,
the daughter of their old engineer leaked a couple of songs this summer and
Dan fans were flipping out.
And,
um,
Micah on our discord,
uh,
brought my attention to one of the leaked tracks,
which is actually an unused commercial
jingle for schlitz beer and this is real that steely dan was hired to make a jingle for schlitz
beer and the schlitz people didn't like it so it never became anything but this just uh okay popped
up before they got famous you think no in 1979 so, in 1979. So they were like going out to a big band wanting a big hit.
That's cool.
And I guess there was some beef between like I read an interview where they said like the Schlitz guy showed up to the studio and was giving notes and they kicked him out of the studio and all that stuff.
But this has been a long rumored thing.
And now there's a Schlitz beard jingle for all to hear.
And I brought the MP3. Hit it!
Nice.
Cuando yo regreso de un dÃa
muy duro de trabajo.
When I get home from a hard
day's work.
Yo cojo por todos los ambientes
que puedo. He says
he likes to grab for all the gusto
he can get.
Porque solo se hace la vuelta una vez nada más?
Because you only go around one time.
¿Ok?
¡Ok!
Once around life, once around living,
once around beer and keep around schlitz.
Come along and take as best of life's giving
Once around beer and you'll keep around Schlitz
When you're out of Schlitz
You're out of beer
When you're out of Schlitz
You're out of beer
When you're out of Schlitz Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Once around life, once around me Once around beer and keep around Schlitz
Come along and take the best that life's given
Once around beer and you'll keep around Schlitz
When you're out of Schlitz
When you're out of Schlitz Damn. Wow. That's like, I've never, you know,
I've always been trying to find my way into Steely Dan and I have the tracks
that I love and tracks that I don't really get, but that is,
that hook is like the Dan that I like. And then that,
those big layered harmonies it's like
gorgeous yeah yeah that's a whole lot better than what's the word cherry coke
i also like that just like when you're out of schlitz you're out of beer like don't even worry
about other beers that don't exist when that's great that's great it's so funny how you come up
with a tagline like that it's like's like, ooh, that's good.
But it's so false for Schlitz because it tastes.
You would never taste the difference between Pabst and Schlitz or Miller or whatever.
But the idea is like, nah, don't even bother.
Just don't drink.
Don't drink it.
Man, who's the guy that fumbled Steely Dan for a beer commercial?
Oh, my God.
Crazy.
And just the idea that Schlitz would be would be like no we don't like it of
all bands to try and give notes to like the notoriously hard to please steely dan people
what are you thinking it's funny for them to have that weird like that that like spanish sort of
like interview portion which is clearly not going into commercial and then the most gorgeous hook
of all time and like the sp Spanish chatter throughout the whole three minutes.
They need to be difficult.
They're such like hipsters.
They're such like pretentious bard kids.
And they just can't just make something that's pleasing.
They have to be like, ah, ah, ah, we're too cool for school.
Damn.
Why would they have made it that long?
Because that wouldn't have been a commercial.
It's not like back then commercials were two minutes long or anything, but.
Maybe the ad agency is like, it's up to them to cut it down.
Just get a whole, give us a whole song and we'll cut it down.
Also, there might've been 60 second commercials back then.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, if you're also, if you're like the sponsor of a TV show, they probably went to commercial break and just plugged one sponsor the whole time.
Well, I thought that was very cool, and thanks to Micah
on the Discord, because the
thing is, folks, if you want access
to the Discord, Sloppy Boys Discord,
and you want to befriend slobheads
like Micah, go out to lunch with Micah,
you know, go on a bike ride.
Oh, anyone can do this, right, Tim?
Anyone can do this? Yes.
You just need an internet connection, right?
You subscribe to the Sloppy Boys Patreon, patreon.com slash the Sloppy Boys.
That's the key.
Then with that, you get an invitation to the Discord along with bomb-ass podcasts like
Sloppy Boys Blowout and Questions for Lennon.
One other quick thing, booze news that I had was just to plug oh my parents are calling me
and i need to mute the call booze they're gonna call two more that happened last time too they
always call in threes especially when i'm doing a podcast oh it's like sneezes yeah yeah some
people sneeze in threes some people don't sneeze at all october 21st in la we're going to be the house band
at the cigarette club at dynasty typewriter oh yeah which is it's a new york variety show that's
going to be coming to la their first la show and we're going to be on we're going to be playing
people on playing people off playing a few original tracks at the end that kind of vibe
i've been on that show before here in new york it's very very fun show. You come to LA, you need LA's hottest band. That's true. So they
should have got Rage Against the Machine.
Yeah.
Oh, great. Great.
Bano. Bano. I wonder what
LA's hottest band is right now.
We need to make Rage Against the Machine
sound dorky.
Bano. Bano.
It'd be good to mash up with U2
and Rage. Bano. Bano. Bano. Bano. you too enrage bono bono
who do you think the hottest bit the biggest band in la is right now and i mean like la band
metallica were they in la but i mean a lot of bands moved to la but like yeah i don't know
where they started i guess chili peppers maybe oh yeah um not a band
but what i feel like la what about uh uh tyler the creator born and raised in la yep of of la
la's in the the music that's an la kendrick yeah haim haim haim they're la people haim haim sloppy
sloppy boys sloppy yeah sloppy boys one of the big ones one of the big boys yeah no chip Haim. They're L.A. people. Haim. Haim. Sloppy Boys? Sloppy Boys?
Yeah, Sloppy Boys.
One of the big ones.
One of the big boys.
No, Chip.
What the heck?
What the fuck?
What is it?
Huh?
It's time for Dutton's Delights.
Ha!
surprise we haven't had a dutton's delights in a while and i wanted to knock up yeah yeah yeah that was sort of that sort of came out of nowhere i just sort of felt a lull in booze news i want to
pick things up and uh i showed you guys this delight, but I needed to kind of use my platform
to shine a light on a song I came across.
This doesn't have a lot of spins on Spotify.
Okay.
Not a lot of clicks.
Maeve and Dave, you are delicious.
Yeah, this was groovy, Jeff.
What a groovy little song, man.
Oh, baby.
And a current, like, is this current music?
No, it's old.
Is it?
Let's just wait for a little bit of singing.
Sure.
That bass is going...
And, uh,
Maeve is spelled M-A-V, and Dave is, of course is spelled M-A-V-E.
And Dave is, of course, spelled D-A-V-E.
So their band name is funny.
How'd you find this, Jenna?
This is like the Spotify algorithm just crushing it.
Great.
It's a chorus.
You are delicious.
You are delectable.
You are delectable.
You are the greatest.
Cool and respectable.
Cool and respectable.
That's nice, isn't it?
You are, you are.
There you have it, folks.
Dutton's Delights.
That's cool. It's great when you find a song that you're like, folks. Dutton's Delights. That's cool.
It's great when you find a song that you're like, hey, this is wonderful, whatever it is.
And then you can listen to their other songs and say, this isn't like the song I like.
Yeah, I know.
I do that all the time, especially with Spotify.
Like, I fucking love this song.
And then you find the brain that made that song, and it turns out they could only do it the one time.
And it turns out they could only do it the one time.
Now, I'm seeing Jeff, the drummer of our band,
sharing a crazy fingered bass solo, bass song.
And then Mike, the bass player of our band,
I feel like Mike is, Jeff is sort of looking at you like the eye emoji is like,
Mike, bass line.
Would you play me, start playing like this a little little bit more i could feel it through the through the video would it kill you to take that thing for a walk
once in a while look all it is is putting the right notes in the right order that's all music
is and if you can do that with a little bit of panache and riz you you're going to be all right. Mike, you're right. Yeah. Yeah.
What else is there to say about bass playing?
Way to set the people straight. Put the damn notes in order and get funky with it.
Get on with it.
Jesus.
I love it.
All right.
Is that it for Booze News?
Wrap it up.
Come on.
Damn.
Flushed. Come on now. Flushed. Come on. Do. Flushed.
Come on now.
Flushed.
Come on.
Do you know what that implies about the whole segment?
That it was flushable waste.
Flushable waste.
You know where flushable waste can be found?
Where it comes from
Okay are you guys ready for the drink of the day
Yes
Yes finally
The New York
Sour you've had
Never had
Never heard
Oh so it's more like
Because it's sour
Yeah it's sour?
Yeah, it's sour.
No, it's... Ooh, somebody do a mashup of the New York, New York
and Olivia Rodrigo's entire album, Sour.
Ooh, that's good.
And if you want to do that and then do another one,
how about that Jeff song, but make a few sour notes in it?
Like...
But you have to do the first one also. Jeff song, but make a few sour notes in it. Like, ba-ba-ba-na-na-na-na
na-na-na-na-na.
But you have to do the first one also.
You gotta do both. Yes, but don't
even move on to the second one until you've done the
mashup with the two. This would be a good project
for Girl Talk. I wonder if he's a listener.
I would assume so. Girl Talk, if you listen,
come on the pod. Come on the pod.
Make up a theme for us.
Okay, so let me set the scene for you here it's uh well it's a few years ago at lax los angeles airport yes a young comedy rocker
sidles up to a bar called ford's fill-in station uh which is the airport version of harrison ford's fill-in station which is the airport version of harrison ford's son's
restaurant in culver city now this handsome greek guitarist usually drinks so greek bloody marys
before his morning flights but on this day at ford's fill-in station at the jet blue terminal
he looks at the chalkboard and sees new york sour he orders it and he's
delighted to receive a frothy whiskey sour topped with a red wine floater utterly divine
to take the the history back even farther than that oh the guy in the story was me by the way
yo damn gasp um here's a scoop we all know the whiskey sour it was covered on this very show
go back and listen to that episode because it was magnificent um it's an old old og drink in the
you know it's like that was in the jerry thomas guide in 1860s so it got mondo popular spread
around the country by the late 1800, there are a lot of variations.
And this one, the red wine topped whiskey sour, first popped up, oddly enough, in Chicago as the continental sour.
They also called it the southern sour.
Then it spreads to Boston, and then it catches on in New York.
And somehow, New York stuck the name on it, the New York sour.
But it's really not tied to New York.
But the good news is
it is an International Bartenders Association
official cocktail.
So we're drinking it on the pod.
And here is the IBA recipe.
You ready for it?
Yep, yes.
60 milliliters, two ounces,
rye whiskey or bourbon.
Nice. 22 and a half milliliters, two ounces. Rye whiskey or bourbon. Nice.
22 and a half milliliters of simple syrup.
So that's three quarters of an ounce, simple syrup.
30 milliliters, one ounce.
Fresh lemon juice.
A few drops of egg white.
That's very hard to do.
A few drops of egg white.
15 milliliters, half an ounce, red wine.
And the IBA put in parentheses Shiraz, or Malbec.
But I think the idea is a full-bodied fruity wine.
Originally, I think they said it was like-
A thick wine.
Claret.
Claret wine, I think, referred to just Bordeaux.
So get a thick juicer.
And the method is...
You know, if you bought port for the Port-au-Flip,
could you use port or that's too sweet?
It's going to be extremely sweet, but Mike, go for it.
Honestly, any red wine is fine.
I know, I have another red wine, but I'm just looking at my port.
I watched some YouTubers talking about this,
and they were kind of all over the place with the wine picks.
So whatever, it's just a floater.
They're nuts.
It's just a floater. It's just a floater they're nuts it's just a floater who cares pour all ingredients into a shaker
shake vigorously with ice strain into chilled rocks glass filled with ice float the wine on top
so why did they say pour all ingredients in the shaker if then you're because the iba is fucking
i took issue with that i don't know what they're doing over there yeah they don't know what's going
on you want that floater so all the ingredients except the wine.
Sure.
Yes.
It's only a half ounce of wine.
When I got this at LAX, it was a big glug of wine up top.
Garnish with lemon or orange zest with cherry.
Sounds nice.
Cool.
Rocks glass.
I like that for a whiskey sour. Lots of times, IBA wants you to put it in a coupe glass, but I'm a rocks glass i like that for for a uh a whiskey sour lots of times
iba wants you to put it in a coupe glass but i'm a rocks glass guy yeah me too
damn that sounds good i gotta say the uh sound good a whiskey sour is kind of one of the
revelations of the pod like i feel like i'd had one before the pod but when we made one
and i got that frothy egg white in my own home. Now I'm making whiskey sours on the reg.
See, it's the egg white.
Any of these egg things, I always feel like I'm doing it wrong or it's going to taste too eggy.
So I think I usually err on the side of less egg.
Yeah, too much egg turns into an omelet and it's gross.
I like, I mean, I order whiskey sours all the time.
Lots of time at a dive bar.
Like I ordered one at the drawing room and the guy was like, you don't want egg wicks
because we don't do that here.
And I was like, no, I'm fine.
But dive bars, it's just whiskey and sour mix.
And a lot of times they put too much sour mix and I'm like, that's too much sour mix.
But when you can hit that egg thing right, it's pretty special.
Go to the Dresden.
And when you're at a really good cocktail bar, oh mama, very good yeah well you want to get into it yep yes all right folks
here come the ads we're gonna go make these drinks and in hand and look at that beautiful that gradient okay jeff you have
a nice gradient i forgot to do the thing where you like turn a spoon upside down and pour the
wine over the back of a spoon to try to just float it.
I plopped it in there, and it fell all the way to the bottom.
Yeah, mine too.
But Jeff, you have a gradient.
Well, I thought I had a gradient.
This is more like that layered thing you're talking about.
I got a solid line of yellow down the bottom, and the rest of it's purple.
Yeah, look at that.
You got to do that thing.
I will say I'm happy with my egg here so far.
Yeah, there's a nice froth.
This looks beautiful.
Nice frothy, but let's see how it tastes.
Purple wine fell like right through the froth.
And so you got a lot of different stripes going on.
Sure.
And it looks like my beloved bramble.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, I forgot about those bramble days.
Next spring.
And bramble nights.
Come on.
Walking around with a bramble going through anywhere you want with a bramble days. Next spring. And bramble nights. Come on. Walking around with a bramble,
going through anywhere you want with a bramble.
Admiring the works of Frederick Olmsted.
That's true.
Okay.
I'll tell you one thing about,
as we do sips here,
I've maybe never been this thirsty on the podcast,
and this looks so nice.
I'm like, I'm going to fucking glug this fucker down, man.
Hey, there you go.
Oh, yeah.
I'm going to glug it myself. Yeah, your social media
is pretty thirsty today, too, Tim.
Yeah, yeah, bikini shots galore. Posting
ass shots. Did you know, Mike,
your friend was posting ass today?
I did not see this. Was it on Twitter?
No, I didn't. I kid.
I kid. I didn't put ass on main.
All right, well, can we do sips here, please?
Sips. Here we do sips here, please? Sips.
Here we go.
Oh, baby.
That's good.
Listen to that.
What is that from?
It's from a Disney movie.
It's like, oh, God.
Somebody could probably chime in and let us know,
but it's like a guy's getting flustered. He's like, God. Somebody could probably chime in and let us know, but it's like a guy is getting flustered.
He's like, well.
It's like I want to say it's some guy with like glasses on the end of his nose or something.
Well.
Well, first let me say.
Yes.
This whiskey sour itself is impeccable.
Jack Schramm taught us that sours is typically like two ounces of liquor one ounce of citrus one ounce
of simple syrup but you can you can play with the the one in one to your liking and i tend to like
a little bit less simple syrup so and that's what the iba did here it was it was an ounce of lemon
juice and 22 and a half milliliters or three quarters of an ounce of the simple syrup.
Perfect, perfect whiskey sour, frothy.
I hit the egg right.
On the dry side.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Yeah, I get the egg right for the first time ever we've made an egg drink.
Me too.
It doesn't taste like an omelet.
It's just a nice frother.
But my red wine, I did fine.
I went with Shiraz. Is it sarah or shiraz
i want to say let's see sarah shiraz i think of shiraz i've heard before there you go shiblees
maybe i'm thinking of shiblees i'm gonna find sarah i'm getting a little bit of the taste not
a sarah sarah not a a shitload of the taste but what what I am getting is that the tannic astringent sort of,
I heard someone say grippy about a wine recently.
This grippy.
Ooh.
Ooh, that's good.
Grippy astringent.
Yeah.
A grippy astringent.
I like that phrase.
Not a shitload of the taste.
Folks, if you're out there and you're selling a food or a drink and it's very tasteful,
go ahead and write a shitload of taste on it.
That'll move that product.
This one's good.
It's got not a shitload of taste.
Come on down to Outback Steakhouse.
You'll get a shitload of taste.
That's good.
That is damn good.
Hey, speaking of Jack Schramm, I won't mention the bar because I don't want to blow up his
spot or anything, but he helped me get into a no-reservation-style speakeasy the other day.
No shit, Schramm.
Yeah, he just gave a little call up.
I said, hey, can you help me out here?
He got me in.
Damn.
It was wonderful.
Schramm's a good guy to know.
Schramm's the man.
Schramm's the man, man.
If you haven't looked at it or tried
His Solid Wiggles
Company
Try those folks we've talked about them before on the pod
Where it's he makes like a cake
Basically a jello cake
A jello shot but it's like shareable it's big
Like a big old cake
And then they have also like the cupcake version of it
Where it's little shots
Little cubes.
Those are fun. Fun?
Fun stuff. I really
love this. I've been to a birthday party
or two with those. Yeah, me too. I've come
across them in the wild. Way to go, Shram.
Yeah. Oh, you know
Shram's laughing all the way to the fucking
bank. When Shram's, you know
everyone's eating solid wiggles,
jello cakes.
All he sees is dollar signs.
Mm-hmm.
We see a shitload of taste and he sees cha-ching.
Open your eyes to a shitload of taste.
Can I tell you how I made my simple syrup today?
You made it?
I made it.
Wow.
Because I thought I had some and I said, no,
I remember how to make this stuff. It's so easy.
But I didn't have white
sugar. So I
used brown sugar. Brown sugar, simple
syrup. Wow.
It's giving a little warmth, a little
coziness. It's giving warmth.
Brown sugar would be good in an old
fashion for an autumnal treat.
Yes, I agree. Now wait, old fashion for an autumnal treat yes i agree now wait
old-fashioned is super easy it's whiskey sugar and water bitters bitters bitters we give a little
splash of water in there if you want a little splash of soda sometimes teeny little just to
melt your sugar cube damn i love it god damn i love this yeah it's real good it's also i'm loving this drink
but i'm also as i said i was very thirsty and that really makes you love it i was just talking
about this with my family like one of my best bites of food i ever had in my life was just
because i was crazy hungry i was like i was like maybe like 16 and i was at the hudson valley mall
with my friend tom and he locked his keys in
his pickup truck and for like hours we were like trying to do something about we eventually got
like a slim jim or a locksmith or something we got the car open somehow and then once we had the car
open we're like hey let's go to nathan's and i got a i ate a nathan's cheeseburger which is nothing
special but i 20 years later like i remember this this as the best bite of food of my life
because I was so hungry.
You suffered for it.
It was just like a fast food burger with ketchup.
And I was like, oh, mama.
You ever eat, you'd be so hungry, eat so fast,
you kind of tear up your throat or the back of your mouth?
Holy shit, no.
I one time, I was in i was in uh switzerland about
five years ago or six years ago i went on a ski trip by myself to zermatt switzerland it was the
most the most wonderful place i've ever been you got the matterhorn mountain on the side everything
looks like a little cookie cutter gingerbread house and i went skiing and i didn't eat all day
and i got back to my hotel and i went in the sauna that was there and i then i took a shower and i
was all of a sudden like fuck i haven't eaten anything my blood sugar is zero and i need to
find food in this town that is basically shut down for the night i ambled around and like just
trying to find anything that was open finally Finally, I found this Italian restaurant that was closed down.
I got a pizza, took it home, and I ate it so fast.
And my swallows were like, gulp, gulp.
That like the crust of the pizza just like tore up my throat.
It was nasty.
But I was close to like just passing out because I was so tired and hungry.
It's funny when you realize you do need food for fuel where you're like,
man,
I'm,
I'm famished and weak because my body doesn't have calories inside of it.
I need some raw fuel,
but yeah,
but Mike,
that's my,
one of my favorite pieces of Hanford mythology is you skiing alone in the,
in the Alps.
Like, like the song i like to ski half drunk in the old swiss alps that's right where do you think that came from i i probably
was no i wasn't half drunk but they did have little little hotels and uh bars and restaurants
on the slopes halfway down you have a little something it was the best i'm not a skier but
i really can't even think of anything more pleasant on earth than skiing in the alps and
stopping having like a stein of beer you know on the way down and every morning the hotel the hotel
included a breakfast every morning you go into the breakfast area and it was like liverwurst and meats and fruits and
cheeses it wasn't like and like hard boiled i think you could get eggs if you had them made
but like just hard boiled like it was just like hearty food for us day out yes hearty food served
by buxom swiss women tim that was buffet and it was stocked by the ugliest men in town and while i was there you guys know how i like big
dogs i'm in the lobby and i see somebody brings the clothing brand the t-shirt brand well no no
no well that too i haven't seen a big dogs a long time as far as those have come back
uh a big bernese mountain dog and burn switzerland is where they're from. And I said, this is so perfect.
I got up to him.
I said, can I pet this dog?
Can I pet that dog?
Can I pet that dog?
Can I pet that dog?
And I got the dog in a big headlock, a big fluffy headlock.
I said, you're coming with me on the slopes, boy.
Hold on.
I'm looking it up.
Oh, wow.
OK.
Yeah, he's a big boy.
He's a fluffer.
Yeah, he's a big boy.
Would you call that a doggo?
Yeah, I guess you would.
Now, Mike, you see a dog. You run up. you pet it, you ask to pet it, you pet it.
Jeff, how do you react when you see a dog in public?
I make a tight-faced smile and I walk by.
You know what I mean?
Like one of these.
Yeah, pursed lips. Just to be like, I don't hate dogs, and I keep walking.
Because here's what I get constantly in Los Feliz.
I'm walking, I'm jogging, I'm hiking, I'm doing my thing.
Someone's walking by with a dog.
And not only, I mean, I don't want to talk.
I don't regard the dog.
I just keep walking.
Not only do the people let the dog get all up in my shit.
You know those retractable leashes?
They're like holding a handle and there's a button so you could let your leash.
I've fucking seen people hitting the button on their leash so that the dog, the assumption is that Tim wants to pet my dog.
So the dog will start running at me.
And then people will hit the button so the dog can get all the way to me.
And I have to non-verbally be like well i don't want i
don't want to interact i'm not interacting yeah and and that it's so if the dog happened to get
you know a dog licks your shins every once in a while it's fine but if it if the owner
enabled that those are good days tim the owner enables that i'm like what are you thinking and
and these lots of times it's dudes too and it's like in los feliz i'm like what are you thinking and and these lots of times it's dudes
too and it's like in los feliz i'm like dude i know you only got this dog so you can meet women
like why are you letting your doggo your tinder doggo come like and then the the thumb button
tin that's you're right that's the most offensive because that's intent right there yes yeah you
caught him you pegged got it that's no I confront him, I said, the button is intent.
Sorry, dude.
Caught you in 4K.
Well, I'll oftentimes, I'll see dogs on the street and I'll look at them and like them
and smile at them.
Yes.
And then I'll look up at the owners to like share my, I like your dog, I'm now smiling
at you.
And it never comes the the smile has never
come back to me oh they're like that's between you and the dog well it's just like ah this dog
i hate this dog you hate the dog give him to me i'll give him a good home give him to me
you gotta walk him still and feed him and clean up And clean up the turds. Oh, I just bit down on my maraschino cherry.
Yeah.
No, I don't use the maraschino cherries often.
And they were, it's a good one.
It's an expensive thing.
Luxardo?
And they've gotten like, they've gotten like, kind of like sugar crusty around the edges of them.
Oh, yeah.
It's good.
Look, I love a Luxardo more than anyone.
Look at that.
I got one right there.
Here's the problem.
These little bamboo guys.
You ever use these?
Yeah.
Tim, you had these, right?
Yeah.
They get splintery.
I see that I've been moving my cherry around.
It's got fucking little bamboo splinters in it.
And I swear I've eaten those splinters before and they hurt.
They hurt my chest and they hurt my stomach.
And eventually you poop them out.
Yeah.
But for like a day, I get a little, I feel a little weird because I got a little bamboo
hair probably jamming my esophagus.
You need, Jeff, get some nice steel, polished steel ones you can reuse.
They look great.
But they don't look.
No, they look great.
They don't look, no, they don't look tiki, Mike. You got to have the bamboo. But they don't look great. You they look great. They don't look... No, they don't look tiki, Mike.
You gotta have the bamboo.
But they don't look great.
You could probably get some reusable tiki.
But look, I can't...
So now I don't feel like I can enjoy my thing without sacrificing my health.
You've got to just eat the outside of it.
Yeah, I'll nibble it.
Damn, this is good stuff.
It's good, yes, but would you change anything?
That's the question.
Always the question.
No, it's perfect.
I think I would probably go less
lemon over here i was afraid you're gonna say less wine and that's funny because it's the whole
purpose of the drink but that's the fun thing about a sour yeah that the the simple syrup and
the lemon that back and forth is up to you it's customized how do you whiskey sour how do you do
there was a minute there where i was making acid-adjusted orange juice whiskey sours at the house.
Yes, you made me one.
It was delicious.
God, they're good.
And the thing I always wanted to do, but I didn't, and I just now realized I have the ingredients for, is acid-adjusted pineapple juice whiskey sours.
That's going to be the new thing.
That's a good idea.
apple juice whiskey sours that's going to be the new thing that's a good idea remember my acid adjusted oj was nasty and i didn't like my acid adjusted oj whiskey sour and it turned out i was
accidentally using sugar-free simple syrup and it makes sense because companies are bad at this
thing when if you're using a like a fake sucrose product you don't use as much of it as you would
sugar because those chemicals are like crazy sweet so if you're using it i've since used my
sugar-free simple syrup use like a tiniest squirt and it just gets the job done but if you put
enough to taste it it tastes really fakey yeah it's like how you're bringing in a flavor a packet
of splenda is not equal to a packet of sugar. It's like 10 packets of sugar sweet and sweet wise.
You got to go easy, easy on this sucrose.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Though, would you guys mind if I change the subject?
Sure.
Yeah, that's fine.
Did I tell you about when I recently went to a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction event?
No.
When was that?
I don't remember that.
Pretty recently.
They were inducting a lot of the old boomer rockers into the Hall of Fame.
I like to go salute and pat them on the back and say, hey, thank you for all the rock over the years and everything you guys have done for me um yeah so i was down at one of these things you know and i'm looking around the
room all the old rockers are there i'm having a blast but i i get a little parched and i go up to
the bar and i say to the bartender hey can i get a whiskey sour and then he's like yeah yeah and i'm like oh maybe it would be
fun if it was a new york sour and he was like oh oh he goes i'd love to make that for you but what
what should i add if i have a whiskey sour i know how to do that but what
would i do differently yeah he likes idea, but he wants to know.
Oh, yeah, he's on board.
He said, Tim, I support you in this endeavor.
And it sounds fun.
But what would I do differently from a normal whiskey sour in order to make this drink you're talking about?
And I said, well, this is embarrassing because I don't even I don't actually know the difference.
And the two of us are kind of standing there scratching our heads for a while
um it goes on maybe 45 minutes an hour and this is a big event mike so yeah and people are people
want to you know the grammys are huge now mike it was a rock and roll hall of fame induction
rock and roll hall of fame um so i'm kind of perplexed me and the bartender starting to get
a little bit sad at this point you're gonna hear the ice cubes mike not paying attention right right right right yeah right right
right right yeah um love it just then i get a tap on my shoulder
i turn around it's the piano man, who's no stranger to a cocktail.
Bill Joel.
BJ.
Bill Joel.
Wow.
The beach man.
We turned to him and we were like, Billy man, love your work, man.
Whether it's Ebony or Ivory, man, you can press those keys, baby.
And he was like, love your work, man, you can press those keys, baby. And he was like, yeah.
Love your work, man, but we are in the middle of something.
We ain't got time to talk about those keys, you love.
If we were talking all 88 keys, we'd be here all day.
But we're perplexed about how, what we should, I got this drink, but I want to do it differently,
but I know what to do.
And he gets that sly grin over his face yeah and he turns to
me and i hit record luckily on my iphone so i got it here oh good and i brought you guys the tape
and he says this hit it a bottle of red dumped over the drink that's what you're gonna wanna do, I think.
Okay, I gotta go take a shower,
but that's how you make a New York sour.
And by the way,
I'm in a New York sour mind.
Oh, damn.
I forgot to mention.
I should have mentioned one minor detail.
He was kind of sweaty and he was wearing gym clothes.
He had come from an event, a sporting event that he was in.
Right.
And so that must be why he mentioned that he needed to take a shower or something.
He needed to take a shower.
Yeah, sure.
That must be why that happened.
Well, that's crazy.
They take showers just like us.
That's fine.
Rockstar shower.
He's one of the big boys.
He thinks something was supposed to go.
What was it?
He put red wine over the drink, I think.
He thinks.
Well, yeah.
I mean, let's be honest.
This thing was invented in Chicago.
It spread to
boston he's from long island he might be newer to the drink just like us he probably saw it on
the iba list and thought maybe someday i'll make one of those that's exciting i mean that's that's
a big get to him yeah so um he was sweaty and he was in his gym clothes by the way
yes right yeah he was taking a shower i assume something was maybe a little funky when
yeah he said he needed a shower yeah he was showering at the hall of fame ceremony you
know these old rock guys like they use they use the rock and roll hall of fame like it's their
club or something they probably have locker rooms there and everything you're right tim actually
there was one time i was writing for the m Movie Awards at the Gibson Amphitheater.
And in the green room where artists would go before they played on a normal concert, they had a bathroom with a shower in it.
Yeah.
Can you believe that?
Yeah.
I can't believe it.
And I clogged that toilet and I was embarrassed.
Were you trying to shower in the toilet?
Remember the piano in that room? There was like a red velvet piano or something.
Chelsea Peretti made fun of me what'd she say well i uh here's the thing i came out
i went to the bathroom this is like my first big writing job came out to a full writer's room
and said um mr porter uh pj porter head writer uh the bat the toilet's clogged and he was like no problem
we'll call the venue so they the venue sent someone down to unclog it and of course my face
was beet red and like brian posain is there and like fucking chelsea peretti's there and i and
we're all having a good laugh and i said it was mostly And of course, that didn't do me any favors.
I think Chelsea was like, that doesn't help.
So you had to wipe like a hundred times.
That doesn't help.
It was a small shit.
It was just so streaky.
Yes, exactly right.
It's funny to think of like, they're trying to help you out.
It's like, that doesn't help your case yeah anyway ouch jeff jeff very brave uh using a writer's room bathroom
intimate taking a shit right i feel like i know this room there's some public men's room right
in the hallway but no jeff want to go blast one i need need that space. I wanted that big artist bathroom, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah, sure.
Well, on that note,
shall we take a little break
and come back with our final thoughts?
Yes.
I love it.
Folks, we'll be right back here after this.
And we're back with our final thoughts on the new york sour boys i love it i will order this again order again yeah you have to this is a i'm gonna i'm gonna say i love it i'm gonna say it's a stone
cold classic and i think that it's worth, it's worth doing.
Cause that's what I knew.
I had had one of these before and I knew I liked it.
But what I was going into this pod thinking is like,
whiskey sours are good.
And that's a good drink doing this little wine trick.
Sure.
Doing dresses it up.
Like you could impress company with it,
but would you do it for yourself?
And I was like, am I ruining a whiskey sour no i'm i'm improving it you're taking a suit and you're turning it
into a tuxedo folks yeah exactamundo i agree very good drink and and how good is that word grippy
huh when i heard that i said i'm gonna use that grippy grippy wine grippy wine death grip the kung fu grip
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guys well just i you know it it bears repeating sometimes you could listen to this podcast and
think like oh i guess they have this like whatever bonus extras on their patreon no
we're saying if you go to patreon.com slash thesloppywiz and you pay $5 a month, you get a whole other episode of a whole different show every week
where we're fucking being funny-ass dudes, man.
We're interesting there.
This is like, oh, we're talking about a drink.
Oh, there's whiskey in it this time.
Cool.
Well, this time we're talking about stuff.
Real stuff over there.
Real stuff this time.
This week we're talking about Night of the Living Dead.
It's the beginning of Zabba Movie Month.
Can you believe it?
At long last, Tim gets to watch all the George Romero movies.
Oh my God.
Will Tim be able to stay awake through a whole Zabba movie?
No, I didn't.
I did not.
Oh, don't spoil it.
No spoilers, Tim.
But here's what I'll say.
No spoilers.
This is me really being a good sport because I...
Oh, we thank you.
Yes.
I don't know if I talk about this on pod, but I dragged my feet about even being a podcaster, right?
You guys remember this.
I didn't.
I wanted to live my life and die and be on my deathbed having never hosted a podcast.
And then instead, hey,id really changed a lot of
things all across the world but we started we started this pod i found that i liked it i found
that i enjoy doing it so thank you everybody but do you think that i wanted to ever be hosting a
podcast that does zombie movie month? I don't like zombie movies
and I don't like geek shit.
We're specifically doing it because you don't like it.
Do you think I wanted to be
posting on Instagram, hey, it's zombie
movie month on my podcast?
No! But I have
a natural
Well, now you're underselling the whole Patreon.
No, no, he's doing good. No, I'm saying that I have a natural
curiosity about the world around me.
Let him cook.
Oh, that's good.
That's good.
That is good, Tim, and it's big of you to admit.
Yeah.
Mike, you have anything you want to get off your chest?
I want to get off the pod.
That's what I want to get off.
It's just too long.
You're fucking too long.
You're a little clock watcher of a host, you know?
I'm a little clock watcher.
I want it done. Front runners, clock watcher of a host, you know? I'm a little clock watcher. I want it done.
Front runners, clock watchers, okay.
You know me, I can't be happy anywhere.
I want to know what the next thing is.
Sure, you gotta live in the moment like your boy.
I know, I don't.
I gotta do that.
All right, well, maybe next time, huh?
Maybe next week?
Maybe this moment didn't suck so much, I would live it.
Give me a moment that doesn't absolutely fucking suck
and maybe I would live it give me a moment that doesn't absolutely fucking suck and maybe i'll
live it all right folks we'll see you back here same time next week bring a friend will you
oh yeah spread the word about it's a groovement it's cool man there's not a lot of bands with
albums and movies and podcasts with It's kind of cool.
Kind of a multimedia thing.
Right.
We kind of have it going on.
Get into it, bitch.
All right.
Give it up for your boys.
It's just a give it up for your boys.
Give it up for your boys.
Give it up for your boys. Give it up for your boys Give it up for your boys
Give it up for your boys
Give it up for your boys