The Sloppy Boys - 168. Industry Sour

Episode Date: January 5, 2024

The guys shake up a bartender's favorite, and the ingredients are equal parts, so the math's easy!INDUSTRY SOUR RECIPE1oz/30ml FERNET BRANCA1oz/30ml GREEN CHARTREUSE1oz/30ml LIME JUICE 1oz/30ml SIMPLE SYRUPPour all ingredients into a cocktail shaker filled with ice. Shake well and strain into chilled cocktail glass.Recipe via Esquire Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton along with Mike Hanford, Thwip, and Tim Kalpakis. What is up? We're your hosts, the Sloppy Boys Band. Thwip Thwip is what I'm talking about over here. I was just playing Spider-Man 2, Marvel's Spider-Man 2 for PS5. Are you into it, Mike? I'm into it, but I'm doing a very smart thing, I think, here, Jeff. I am sitting down to play like one or two missions at a time.

That's all you need. I'm not sinking like hours into it. Like this whole past weekend, I didn't play it at all. But you want to, don't you? I wanted to. I want to be playing it right now, actually. I came off a really hot mission. Nice.

I left my man Miles Morales down in, where was it? We were down in Coney Island. We were about to walk into a, do a little investigation. Now, I only played the first Spider-Man, but I was kind of bowled away by, bowled away? Yes, bowled away by how, what a faithful New York City they had in that game. Sure, sure. Yeah, but like I was seeing buildings that I'd seen in real life. I went by NBC, 30 Rock, and instead of NBC, it said Feldens.

Feldens Broadcast Network. It looked like just a storefront. I don't even know if they were pretending that was a broadcast place, but it was like, oh, Radio City. I know this. Oh, Feldens. That's so funny because i bet it's a sony game and they're like we're not giving nbc yeah right right right exactly i spent the fourth

of july with you in coney island this very year mike when you were when you were just investigating around there did you see the bar that we drank at or the nathan's no because i was just it was the mission was starting i I realized I had to get onto the pod here. So yeah, I swung around a little bit into the baseball stadium that I've been in and there was some roller coasters.

Was it nostalgic for you? Oh yeah, been here. To be honest with you, Tim, I can't, you can't, there's no time for nostalgia in this game. You're zipping by everything so quick. Oh, that's weird

because most games for me, I'm looking around. Oh, I used to come around here. I used to eat hot dogs around here. What this game needs is a mission where I take a open top bus and just wander around the city. You ride the big red bus tour. You don't want to thwip thwip. You want to ride on the top of a bus. I't want to thwip thwip. You want to ride on the top of a bus. I do want to thwip thwip, but I'm missing everything.

I almost miss Feldens. Go too fast, you're going to miss Feldens, they say. Careful, don't miss Feldens. Well, I remember playing GTA 5. That's the last one, right? That's in LA. And going down to LAX and being like, man,

this looks like the real deal. And then it tricks you. Cause I went down to LAX for real. And I felt like the last time I was here, I stole a plane. You know, you have false memories. Yeah.

And then you, you started walking right onto the tarmac, a hot wire a plane i remember playing gta5 and then like getting in my car afterwards and do and i was like kind of revving the engine a little more and making some uh questionable moves questionable left yeah um there was a video game that's not red dead redemption but one of those style games but it was set in la and it was like a 1930s la noir vibe oh yeah that looked cool i remember when that came out but i never heard anyone talk about i've watched clips on it on of it on youtube

because it was very it's very faithful like los feliz is in the game and you can go down and walk. Like you see where the Vista theater is now. It was like, it still had the, uh, the, the set from, uh, DW Griffiths Metropolis or one of those just like hanging out down there.

Oh, that's wild. Which I think before the Vista was built, like that set had just like fallen into disrepair and was just sitting there. And, uh, but I've heard that you could, we should work it

you know we're talking about doing the sloppy boys tour of los feliz we should have uh work that in as well maybe it's a video game and but you have to party your way up hillhurst that's funny tim that you approach this video game as a history buff yes yes yes looking around saying i used to go here but i mean i imagine that game also has like uh you know the the old ucb franklin is probably uh william randolph hearst stables yes but don't forget after that but right before it became ucb it was the tamarind theater and colin quinn did a one-man show there directed by ben Stiller. Wow. I would never forget something like that. Don't forget. You mustn't

forget. Wow. I don't think I knew that. Ben Stiller directing Colin Quinn in a one-man show. Yep. A meeting of the minds. Two New York guys going out to LA to do a one-man show. Is Ben Stiller a New York guy?

I wouldn't say so. he oh i would he lives here that's kind of that's the ultimate litmus test he's always tweeting about the knicks too or was maybe he's off x i don't know is anyone on x anymore i hardly go on it's tanking i'm i'm i'm on x i'm on it i haven't x'd it's tanking and i tanked my own x by you know i used to tweet jokes and they were funny and everybody loved me and then i kind of ran out of jokes i ran i said i lost my i'm like in kind of my andre 3000 era where i lack inspiration and uh i uh really the only thing I ever do is just retweet the sloppy boys account.

And look, you would think that that's prime content, but I have lost like 2000 followers because it's just like every week it's like, here's the blowout. Here's the cocktail. Here's the blowout. Here's the cocktail. And then all the people that were looking for clever, satirical. That's not why you follow at Tim Kulpakis. You want a string of pearls, each one unique. I think you want the whole picture of the man so that the personality emerges. I contain multitudes.

Right, right, right, right. I'm wondering, do you guys unfollow people a lot? I don't unfollow very often no i follow for life no they tend to just fall out of your algorithm if you don't like them yeah yeah that's that's what i'm curious about people unfollowing you tim it's like what who why put why why get rid of that because you know a little gem is going to come through i don't want i want i think they want to be as far away from me as possible. Maybe they just got off X. Maybe they kept clicking on the sloppy

boys stuff and then they were getting addicted to it and they wanted to stop. Could have also just been bots. Maybe 2,000 bots jump ship on me. 2,000 bots. Wait, oh, that was a thing. When Elon took over, he was like, I'm killing inactive accounts.

If an account hasn't tweeted in like three months, it's getting killed or whatever. So maybe it was all my old geriatric followers that don't get up to tweet too much. He did what? Oh, we're at Denny's. I'm reading Linda Underwear while eating my

moons over my hemi. Me and Sheila love Beverly Mysterious. That's our in on Hollywood gotcha news. Well, you guys want to do a little booze news? Speaking of news. Yes. Bip, bip, bip, bip, bip, bip.

Hit it. Some friends, tickets on their pants. I went to Grace, tickets on Dendy. He said, shit, all we got is Doritos. Chili cheese Fritos. Flamin' hot Fritos. Honey barbecue Frito twists. Spicy jalapeno Fritos scoops.

Give me all those fucking Doritos and Fritos. It's Booze News, you greasy fingered ragamuffins. Waka waka. muffins. Waka waka! Thousand Gex Booze News was sent to us by John Aramini. Aramini. And if you have a Booze News theme, email it to thesloppyboyspodcast.gmail.com

That is good. That was the Gex. We love the Gex. Yeah, we love the Gex. And some Fozzie Bear. And me bragging about my Frito. Frito? My Frito Buffet when me and Jeff were watching Dawn of the Dead. Day of the Dead?

You'll never be able to get them straight. Which one's the mall one? Dawn, but it was Day that we were watching together. And you took a couple Z's there, Tim. Wait, it goes Night of the Dead, Dawn right night of the living dead and then they dropped living and it's dawn of the dead mall day of the dead so they start this whole trilogy at night time yeah that's the same movie where i made us take a jenny's ice cream break so i had put out all the fritos and we had six bags of Fritos to eat.

And then I still made us stop the movie and walk to Jenny's ice cream. That's right. That's an accurate, uh, I heard about this. There was one point when, when Tim, I heard you were like,

well, give me those fucking Doritos and Fritos. Yeah. Anyway, that was not necessary. I hope the gecks come out with something again this year, because not to, not to disparage them, but they could probably come out with albums pretty quickly wouldn't you think it's just two people yeah they do a lot of live stuff though what do you mean

it's just two people that doesn't hurry it up there's just two people well i guess i guess less people to like to get into a room or something in In our band, there's a third guy saying, hold on, when we get to the studio, I'm running late. I just want him to do another thing. They open for Boy Genius at the Hollywood Bowl. It's kind of funny. Now, who's Boy Genius? I've heard of that.

That's Phoebe Bridgers. Phoebe Bridgers' super group? Yes, yes, yes, yes. And two other equally powerful women, but I just don't know their names. But it's a super group. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And two other equally powerful women, but, um, I just don't know their names, but it's a super group,

Mike. Yes. You don't see super groups much anymore. That's good. They're a super group, but they wouldn't, they wouldn't be like selling out the Greek if, if not for Phoebe bridge,

I think. And also they don't sell. It's a Julian Baker and Lucy. Acus Lucy. Acus docus, but, um, don't dox us. It's funny because gecks don't sound anything

like that, but they're down to clown. That's funny. I think it's just for the cool kids. Oh, a couple weeks ago, I forgot to mention this. I saw who is the Haim sister who is in Licorice Pizza? A lot of Haim.

A lot of Haim. Yeah, she was sitting right there next to Taylor Swift A lot of Heim. A lot of Heim. Yeah, she was sitting right there next to Taylor Swift at one of the games. Whoa. She's in the squad, man. Little buds, I guess, because they did touring together. Yeah, they were friends from work. She's like, I got this

thing tonight if you want to come. My boyfriend's got a football game. I'll do that. I got them them where is it kansas fucking city i saw alana heim walking out of a uh hardware store in los feliz and she was wearing overalls and carrying paint cans like a cartoonish person who was doing a project that's good yeah it was good i said hey this is good lady this is hey what you're doing now what this is good don't talk to me hey can we get to the actual fucking booze news or is it gonna be my friend saw you on tv is it gonna be all nonsense my friends are you on tv it's not nonsense jeff it's good stuff it's allowed because it's shit talk.

No, it's booze news. Shit! Yes, but that Gex-themed booze news theme by John Aramini did mention a certain Frito-Lay product that factors into today's news. Because, okay, this was one that that slop heads were tagging me in it right away sending it to me and i was like yeah i don't know about this this is one of those ones and then people kept tagging and the buzz only grew and grew and has grown to the point where i as editor-in-chief you can't ignore it required to report on doritos flavored liquor have you heard about this i have seen that now it's from this brand uh empirical they've got this bottle of uh doritos

it's like 46 abv so that's a strong ass 92 proof. It's a drink that they have distilled from Doritos nacho cheese. No, hold on. Yes. They've distilled it from the cheese? This is why I brought it to Brews News is. This is like saying that the Crunch Berries really do come from a factory. Yes, that's what's happening here. Well, they do come from a factory yes that's what's happening well they do come from a factory the car yeah okay a factory of sorts but not a cartoon but do they ever come

from a from a plant yeah you're right tim go ahead go ahead i think a lot of the the boozes that are trying to sort of make a little splash on social media but then you can't really find them or whatever they're like infusions or flavor right you know it's like this is the kfc vodka or whatever it is they've just like added flavoring in this case empirical has like the the ingredients like it's distilled from doritos it's malted barley belgian saison yeast, and Doritos nacho cheese. And it's actually made from that. And the reviews are that it just tastes like Doritos and that it's delicious. And people are liking it.

What the fuck? Now I want to try it. Is it vodka? Mike, did you not listen? You don't listen. I wasn't listening. I wasn't listening because I was thinking about the distilling. Yeah, Mike wasn't listening.

What was it? It's not vodka. It's not rum. It's not gin. It's not whiskey. It's not tequila. This is a new spirit that is distilled from Doritos. Okay.

Okay. I wasn't getting that at all. Yes. You put Doritos into a cask and you distill it and now you have a liquor that was made from that. How does the liquor come out of it? What the fuck? As if we would know with vodka and grain or whatever. Yeah, as if I know what the word distilled means anyway.

Oh my God. No, but this sounds like prison liquor or something. Yeah, you can i guess distill or uh you know ferment anything so why not a dorito the prison one is like like piss and shit right no i think there is some sort of piss and shit whiskey no i hope not oh hold on this is worthy of a google which sloppy boys should make no when we finally come out with our beverage it looks like they make it it looks like they make it in the toilet but then they have to pee elsewhere so it's made in a toilet i don't get it hmm well hold on just going back to this

dorito one is this one we can actually buy or is it one of these ones it's like oh it was just a little trick to get us talking about doritos as if no one's talking about doritos anyway i know my god the geeks are singing about them um it sold out i went i tried to buy it it sold out so maybe it was just a tiny drop just to get attention the social media age that we live in, they're millennial. Well. Hey, I found some answers.

Oh. I found some answers. This guy on Reddit works at a prison in Australia. He posted this thing three years ago saying that they're always on the lookout for home brews. The guys hoard bread, bananas, potatoes,

apples, and oranges. They used to make their home brews. We have to be on the lookout for yeast sent in through the mail. Whoa. The, the biggest batch he ever found personally was 18 liters. Although he had a friend to find 40 liters hidden in old cleaning

buckets. Damn. How about that? That's crazy. We got to make some, to find 40 liters hidden in old cleaning buckets. Damn. How about that? That's crazy. We gotta make some. That's gotta be a chapter of the Sloppy Boys movie. A lot of cool movies will have a prison chapter.

Remember when we made beer? Remember that? Yeah. Mine sucked. Mine was awful. Mine sucked too. We all got mr beer brewery brewers for christmas you and i got mr beer and jeff got some more scientific uh with a lot of glass ms beer yeah i got an even tougher one yeah but it all it sucked it didn't taste good because we tried to have a big like brewer uh, right? Didn't we have everybody over? Brewer party. Yeah.

Wait, it's a brewer party. It's very much a BYOB brewers party. I remember opening mine and they didn't even go, you know, that's not a good sign. Oh, that's right. Because you could bottle them too. That's right. That was fun.

They like fermented in the bottle and the sugar is what makes it carbonate so i remember i'm gonna cheat and put a little extra sugar so mine were bubbly but sweet and disgusting like soda you made like smear enough ices yeah i remember yeah we we like nobody liked him including us but we also took like poured half of a beer and then poured like half of uh a coors Light into it just to give it more of a beer taste. More of a beer taste. I remember like starting with a Bud Light and then and then decorating a Bud Light with like little drops of my beer and going pretty good. And then feeling really proud. I do remember when that when that party was starting being like, hey,

I hope nobody I hope all our friends don't get sick from this. Oh, right. Oh, yeah. Yikes. Well, that sounds really good, and if I find it, I'm going to buy it, and we're going to drink it, Tim. Yeah, me too. We got it. Is that it for Booze News? Wrap it up. Ooh.

Ooh. Well, I'd love to hear about the drink of the day. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yes. I don't have it. I don't have it. Who's got it? The tea man has it.

Yes. Welcome to my lair. What is he talking about? The industry sour you've had? No. No, but I have soured on the industry, Tim, the Hollywood,

the showbiz industry. Yeah. The industry sour. Uh, I only heard of this recently in the last few months, a lot of slap heads were sending it to us. And then in the last few weeks, there was a recent uptick even.

So, because, uh, it was featured on the educated bar fly which is like there's a handful of youtube cocktail shows that i watch when like we're trying to learn about drinks and stuff and one of them is the educated bar fly but they also post theirs to uh instagram and the one that they clipped out on instagram for industry sour went a little viral and made the rounds and then made this sort of a buzzy uh affair and i thought it would be nice to cover on the pod because we've been talking

for net recently we all love for net but then it was in the hanky panky and we've talked about it as an industry drink that bartenders love right then b, bang, boom. This is all about that. It goes hand in hand. What did you call it? Like a clothes drink? Or like a staff drink? A shift drink. Shift drink.

A shifty. Oh, clothes isn't like you're closing down the shop. I get you, I get you. A shift drink. Yeah, yeah. Family meal. The gang, you say, hey, front of house and back of house is getting together for an Amaro treat. We are, is that today?

Well, I'm glad that we're sticking on like the Furnette train a little bit because it's kind of reminds me, it brings me back to like when we did the Bramble and we tried all the different gin blackberry stuff this spring. So this is like a nice, we're kind of following a stream of consciousness. Also, the listeners probably went and bought this bottle and they want to find different uses for it. This is good podcasting. A little Frenette thread. And the listeners love this. Instead of just, oh, random episode, next episode, doesn't matter if you listen or not,

this makes them feel like they're part of something. They don't belong anywhere in life. They don't have community. Society has left them behind. When they listen to this, there's a reason to get out of bed in the morning. I feel looped in. This is nice.

There's somewhere to go now. I feel like I know what's going on. You ever get up and you say, what the fuck do I have to do today? Where am I going to go? I have to listen to my phone? I have to go buy alcohol and listen to my phone. My phone says to buy stuff. Yeah, not like those depressed people laying around drinking all day.

You got to go out, buy alcohol, listen to your phone. I have to go to specific liquor stores to buy Fernet Branca. Oh, and I hope I can find some of that expensive green chartreuse the guys on my phone said it's running out and getting more expensive the monks are chill and we're running out um okay so the history on this one nice tidy history which is oh baby it's a new drink only 12 13 years ago in saint louis a bartender named ted kilgore he was hanging out with another bartender and he was making a drink and he was like hey we're bartenders i'm gonna make a bartendery drink for us kind of bar type kind of guys

and he's like oh so i'm just gonna mix up all my favorite things all together at once and he had a hunch that it would work you know knowing cocktails as he did he thought maybe i'll it'll keep it simple with an equal parts drink i think they'll still be nice and balanced all of his favorite things his his two favorite spirits and then his favorite citrus and his favorite simple syrup. Wine juice and syrup and Fernet and... Chartreuse. Not to jump the gun. Two things are green and one is... What do you rhyme with? Chartreuse.

Jeez. Fart loose? Yeah. Let this fart loose. That's good. That's very good. It does say though that like it that he and this other bartender were wearing nightgowns and bouncing on a bed when they were singing. Really?

On a rainy night. Wait a minute. I'm simply making a film reference. I know, I know. I got hooked in. But so he mixes up his favorite things, equal parts, and bing, bang, boom. He was right. They were like, this is perfectly balanced.

And since it's such a bartender-y drink, we're going to call it the industry sour. And that recipe that he used was one ounce Fernet Branca. Bar staff favorite. One ounce green chartreuse. Another bartender favorite. We have used it in the last word and the tipperary it's made by the monks carthusian monks and and there's a shortage going on the monks are are are say hey we're fine with they're pivoting to worship we're we do a little prayer we do a little chartreuse that's that man and if you want more chartreuse you guys better

make it and that's what's been happening lately is knockoffs are popping up but it's all it's another bartender fave um and like i feel like i ordered a last word at a bar one time and the bartender was like oh cool all right and it made me feel like completely awesome um one ounce lime juice joie de lime one ounce simple syrup, combine all with ice, shake and strain into a cocktail glass. That's nice and easy. This is great. No rocks?

This is all same. Very uniform. I love it. And you know, I love, basically it's like you got your sweet and sour mix between equal parts lime and syrup. You got your Fernet. Now, I've had some drinks out here that are kind of like a Fernet cocktail, but it's like a Cuba Libre with Fernet in it. Oh.

I like how lime and sugar and Fernet combine. Now, I'm just wondering, is the chartreuse going to get along? Chartreuse on to get along? Chartreuse on the loose. A Cuba Libre with Fernet. That's good. That sounds good. This has the, well it's a lot of Fernet, but this has a risk of running kind of sweet

because it has the simple and then chartreuse itself is sweet. Is it? Chartreuse is high proof. It's like 100. In my memory it was sweet, but maybe I was drunk. Reminder, simple syrup is just one part sugar, one part water. You don't have to go out and buy this stuff, folks. Yeah, he could heat it up.

Heat it up. Right, so you could be ounce of all the other things, half an ounce sugar, half an ounce water. Oh, mix it in the drink. I see. This drink is an industry drink. It's called the Industry Sour. And I said, we have resources on this pod. We know a guy who works in the bar industry.

Maybe I should text celebrity bartender Jack Schramm, the, you know, fucking founder of Solid Wiggles Jell-O Cake Jell-O Shots. And, you know, he used to work at Nomad in New York and all these places. An all-around great guy. What's he used to work at uh nomad in new york and all these places and all right great guy what's he got to say i tell the dude and i'm keeping this feature alive i texted giuseppe uh gonzalez last week so this is kind of a cool thing that i do yeah this is great i said to him this morning schrammer have you ever had an industry sour as a member of the industry does the equal parts combo of fernet chartreuse simple lime ring true as a representation of your people and additionally is fernet still a fave

among bar staff or was that more of a 2015 thing and now the rest of the world has just finally caught on or was that just we were big joke and you fooled us you you tricked us man he wrote me back and said industry sour is definitely a thing especially among young bartenders who are in their wow this is so fun let's get fucked up portion of their careers perfect the spec is one ounce for net one ounce green charcoals one one ounce lime, three quarter ounce simple. So, SRAM dials it back on the simple. No, no, up. No, you're right.

Sorry, back. Back. Back. Fourth. Also, Jeff, fourth would be the opposite of back. Yes, right. Fourth. Fourth.

Fourth. Oh, okay. That the opposite of back. Yes, right. Fourth! Fourth! Fourth! Oh, okay. That's what it was. He goes on to say, Fernet will always be a favorite because it's usually the first Amaro people try and it's such a distinct flavor. It was big in 2010.

It was big in 2015 and it will be big now and forever. Even if we're now aware of multitudes of more delicious and better balanced Amari. So Fred, it's sort of like that little black dress. Dress it up, dress it down. It's timeless. A night at home, a night at the town.

A night on the town. That's sad when you put on your little black dress and stay home. Yeah, you're vacuuming that sucks looking through your little black book in your little black dress doing dishes oh i wish there was numbers with these names that would be funny now if you had a little black book if you like if you had a physical little black book and it's just like uh like instagram handles and dating profile names and stuff you physically wrote it down well did we get to it let's get to it yes yes are we do you think we're going to resonate with

the young bartenders of the world or we're still having a fun time with it i think we already do yeah i think so too here i think we're steering the culture, so we do whatever we want and they follow. Tim, I like that. That's true. Mike, don't yawn. I'm not. Okay, great. I want you to see my teeth.

My back teeth. Looking good, my man. All right, folks. We're going to take a little break when we get these drinks ready, and we'll be right back here after these messages. Thanks. And we're back with the industry sour. Let's see them. Not a huge yield over here.

Sours up. Why would it not be a big yield? It's four ounces. Not big. I know. I guess without ice in this cup, it just looks kind of... Oh, yeah, because you've got a rock spot. Kind of dinkified. I like the frothiness of it.

It looks like a sour, but then it looks like honey. Frothy honey. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, it does. You're combining greens and browns, folks. So that's what you're kind of ending up kind of like when i had food poisoning that time yeah that's enough of that please i was hoping we weren't gonna bring that up sips you started the night i hope we don't

bring that up i started the morning your first thought when you open your eyes. Okay, sippy. Yep. Oh, yes. Ping, pang, pang, ping, ping, pang. This is approaching Trinidad sour. Yeah. Complexity. This is also approaching green Gatorade taste. I guess the chartreuse does have a little bit of a Gatorade taste. And the sweetened and the simple syrup.

The chartreuse is very strong, but it did have like the sugar crystal crackle taking the cap off the bottle. So I think there is a pretty good amount of sugar in there. This is tart and tangy and ping and pangy yeah that's a new taste for the old mcmahon a whole new taste morrow and citrus is pretty fascinating to be like to be getting all those the weird many flavors of fernet yeah but then to be having lime at the same time it's kind of shortened out my brain a little bit yeah because even in a fernandito you don't put in lemon juice you just do a little twist you would get a little oil and that's pretty good this tastes like a last word

with fernet and i guess what was the other stuff in the last word? Last word. It's got like a sweet little, like almost like caramelly thing. The last word cocktail recipe. Oh yes. Gin, chartreuse, lime,

maraschino, liqueur was the weirdy in that one. So we've simply, uh, we've gotten the smoky taste out of it. The sticks, the, uh,

the, the cherry stick taste cherry bark. Oh yeah. The woodsy park. Yeah. That's what I don't like that. I don't need any more of that in my life. You don't,

you know what? 2024 I'm cutting toxic people out of my life and i'm cutting the flavors that i don't need like cherry branches they're out i'm dropping them nobody gets that i think they're smoky tasting ah that's good one wonders what can be done differently i know we're not there yet yeah one wonders indeed one well the mind does real you could do the jack tram thing and dial back your simple if you thought this was too sweet but um it's also i'm kind of shocked that we're not being bowled over by the frenet right because we were just talking about how... Yeah.

Yeah, it's pretty permeating. Fernet. Well, actually, in our hanky-pankies, we cranked up the Fernet a little bit, so... Hanky-panky, we cranky. This is one of these ones where it just takes... It tastes complicated. It tastes fancy. It tastes professional.

But I don't know that if I just sipped this, I would ever guess the ingredients. Yeah. but I don't know that if I just sipped this, I would ever guess the ingredients. Yeah. It's funny when you do everything at equal measurements, because it almost seems like it would be just a mess, a mess in there. Yeah,

man. I don't know. Like if you gave me to this, just sight unseen, I don't know if I'd be able to pick up my beloved lime. And you're a lime freak. I know. Yeah.

If somebody gave me this, let me see. I took a sip. Maybe. I don't know if I'd be able to say, Oh, I know. Yeah, if somebody gave me this, let me see. I took a sip. Maybe. I don't know if I'd be able to say, oh, I know what this what this what's in here. Sure. You'd still be grateful that somebody walked up to you and gave you a drink, right? Oh, my God.

And I wouldn't even question it. I'd say, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Don't even tell me your name. I don't even want to look up and see your face. Thank you for this drink. We salute you.

Drink this green brown cup. You know what? Maybe it's the color, but it has a little bit of a cola taste to me. Do you feel that at all? Yeah, I was going to say like Coca-Cola is maybe like. Something. Is that the Fernet? It did.

What the fuck? It turned into Coke. It tastes like lime Coke. Lime Coke. That's it. Lime Coke out of the amc uh pick your own flavors thing that never goes well for me by the way i oh the coca-cola freestyle you get too excited my my freestyle usually ends up just being like coke or cherry coke man my thing at the

dining hall which i've carried with me to this day how How many dining halls are you going to these days? I'm talking Ithaca, baby. The terraces. I know, I know. This was, but I do love a dining hall, Mike. I'm glad you brought that up. Fruit punch, high C fruit punch,

and mostly Coke. That's a good little combo. That is a good little combo. You know? Like a fruit and juicyca-cola high c yeah i always just do a coke with cherry which is you might call a cherry coke do you sure do you remember when at mcdonald's as a kid you could get uh like uh orange so like high c orange soda. Oh, yeah. And it was like immediately, I remember getting it,

and it would always be very quickly watered down. Like orangeade. Yeah. Yeah. It had a few good sips, and then the ice would get it going. I'm looking for a few good sips. You found the right place. That's Ronald.

That's Ronald? Ronald with that squeaky nose. He's a clown. Oh, right. He squeaks his nose iconically yes iconically he says Grimace we gotta get the fuck out of here hey they gotta bring back the McDonaldland family

yeah make more Grimace shakes or birdie shakes they're fair weather friends to the McDonaldland crew they bring Grimace back and it's all this oh we loved Grimace back and it's all this. Oh, we love Grimace the whole time.

They don't do shit with those, that beloved cast of characters. You didn't love him the whole time or else we would know where his, he was. And if he was a taste bud or not. Yeah. Yes. Yes.

Like, I like the Burger King brought back, um, the Brown in the logo, the burger, the burger logo. Oh, I love it. Orange and brown? Like that classic 80s...

You ever see that racing stripe set that's like yellow, orange, brown? That's such a not sporty trio of colors. Hideous, but I love it. It's like tricked out vans in the 70s would be that color. Vans, exactly. It's like van stripes. My dad had a bathing suit with those stripes.

He looked like a McDonald's cup. I bought a white bathing suit and then eventually had those stripes. What was the orange? Uh, well, he mixed with blood. Bloody piss. Hey, um, back to the fucking freestyle coke freestyle machine why isn't there a cocktail a freestyle cocktail machine where you hit the button oh i'm in the mood for a last word gin chartreuse maraschino lime that's a great idea wait i did see something recently that was like a a a Keurig, but for cocktails.

Have you seen that? Ooh. Oh yes. I saw it on a commercial and like the sound was off and I was like, what is that? People said, no, pay attention to what we're doing here.

I've seen that, but I don't think it's like mixing the stuff in the machine. I think it's little pods, like coffee pods. And it's just sort of like, you know, it's like, yeah,

yeah. It's like a Negroni pod that goes. Nice. pods and it's just sort of like you know yeah yeah yeah it's like a negroni pod that goes nice you guys were talking about as i you probably noticed i was a little silent over here i was doing some online surfing and uh i came across this video the other day i watched like half of it but i need to it's only like four minutes long but but it's the YouTube video is called the commercial that killed a fast food, fast food chain. And it's about this company, this burger place called Rax. R-A-X. Have you heard of it? No, no. It's it's worth watching this little video because it's I think from the 80s looks like mid 80s or something.

And they had this this mascot that was just like a regular guy and the whole like ad campaign and stuff was just like hey we're not gonna do you know this isn't for kids at mcdonald's or like kids at burger king this is just a regular burger for regular guys and uh it's worth watching because it's so uncool and the the commercials like make so many leaps in the uh uh customer's mind i guess let's play it can we play it uh i can send it to you it's four minutes long is it four minutes i'm fine is it mr delicious i'm seeing a 30 seconder right here oh try mr delicious is it rex oh no i'm seeing it the commercial that killed a fast food chain yeah maybe just watch the first little bit of it just get an idea of what this is.

Yeah. And then we'll talk about it again. It's only a four minute. Wait, hold on. Give me time to. Will we watch it all at the same time? Wait, hold on. The commercial that killed a fast food chain.

Chain. Yeah. We just watched the beginning. OK. OK. Rax was a roast beef place like Arby's, except it was constantly undergoing identity Chain? Chain. Yeah. We'll just watch the beginning. Okay. Okay. Rack's was a roast beef place like Arby's, except that it was constantly undergoing identity crises and it had no idea what it wanted to be. Mostly in their advertising, they just wanted to make the case that they somehow weren't

like the other major fast food chains. Here's one of the most successful attempts to do that, implying people are oppressed because they can only get one kind of chicken sandwich. At Rack's, you can get an eenie, meenie, and a miney. Eenie, meenie, and miney. Where's Moe? There ain't no Moe. Oh, he tried so hard to make that work.

There are lots of bad Rax ads. There's one where a phone eats a sandwich, which features Yoga Jones from Orange is the New Black. This one with the giant chicken foot. And then there's one where a woman wants a pita pocket with a meatball in it and she explodes and we're bad in the asian movies continue to lose focus and market share with an all-you-can-eat pasta bar upgraded interiors getting into pizza for some reason yeah those rooms are very Wendy's. Like those greenhouses with brass rails. Mr. Delicious. Mr. Delicious. I'm Mr. Delicious, the new spokesman for Rex Restaurants.

Looks like Harry Carey. My job is to encourage you to enjoy tasty, affordable meals in a more mature dining environment. He's like a low-energy Rodney Dangerfield. He is a sad man. On that vacation he took to Bora Bora with those two young friends, well, that left Mr. Delicious feeling empty and unfulfilled. No, you need to explain.

Mr. Delicious just had some rather delicate surgery. If there's no change, he doesn't have to squirm so much to put it back in his pocket. Did we just hear about Mr. Delicious' vasectomy? Because his analyst charges a lot to keep Mr. D's hostility all locked up. Wait, what? And Mr. Delicious always carries his briefcase. Mr. D, what's in the briefcase? And all of this is paired with the worst or possibly best tagline in all of fast food history.

Rex, you can eat here. Okay, that was great. I had no idea. Check that out, folks. The Vlog Brothers on YouTube. It's yeah. The spokesman is like a guy. He kind of looks like who played Sergeant Bilko.

That guy. Oh, yeah. He's got like big, fat. Right. The old Bilko. It's like a Steve Allen looking guy. Yeah. Steve Allen came to mind.

Right. Sergeant Bilko. Phil Silvers.il silvers yeah yeah but he's like he's got little briefcases this was that weird thing where it was called the phil silvers show and then the character is sergeant bilko you know where they're like oh yeah yeah yes but yeah mr delicious looked just like that but yeah i liked what they were saying like it was trying to almost like be like find an audience that was too smartly could understand their ironic character and their ironic catchphrases like just get the people in there to eat but uh yeah jeff you said it though it looks like a wendy in the interiors look very much like a wendy's like those little greenhouse curved glass things with a lot of ferns and a lot of brass rails like your fern bars

fern bar aesthetic the original fern bar fast food fern bar that's so funny because to have that much media about racks and have it look like commercials that i grew up with but it just must not have been in my region right it feels like when you're watching a movie and you see a fake restaurant or something because that felt so so real but i'm like it's like another dimension um it's proof of that thing of just when you try to do everything like who knows maybe that food was good but i really i love when a place is just confident and tells you what to get you know like in-n-out burger has the smallest menu and you're like, great, you guys make burgers and fries and shakes and that's it. And so many of these places have gone kind of crazy with, uh, the trying to have like, Oh, we also have chicken bites and we will, we will also have this. And we also have that. And I'm like, well, what are you,

what are you proud of? Me? I'm proud of a menu. I i have no pride that was remember we used to watch uh hell's kitchen or the whatever gordon ramsay's where you go to people's kitchens or uh restaurants and tell them why they suck kitchen nightmares yes kitchen nightmares um and he would that was the first time i heard like the idea of like this menu is humongous and in my head i was like yeah that's good probably because you can get anything you want he's like no people look at this and they're overwhelmed right i mean some places are allowed to do it like jack-in-the-box it seems like we let jack-in-the-box get away with murder that's the one place where i like all the the trinky dinky toy food like i do sometimes go in there i'm like all of egg rolls and uh tacos and jalapeno poppers. What do you mean? They got no business making egg rolls.

Egg rolls. What do you like at Jack in the Box? I'll just get two orders of egg rolls. I like the Chinese food. It's so bizarre. I do like the buttery jack. Have you had that? Sure.

No, what's that? And we all love Snoop's munchy meal. That goes without saying. Oh, my God. Wait a minute. Snoop had something to snoop's munchie meal that's that goes without saying oh my god wait a minute snoop had something to do with the munchie meal i think it's suggesting extracurriculars if you ask me yeah that his home smoker he's a home fucking smoker man that's funny that snoop went jack in the box they must have paid him like a ton of money yeah i'm sure they paid him i mean

they they did but like other yeah they must have paid him he couldn't have done that pro bono oh they definitely paid him take it from me tim they paid snoop um but like cardi b did mcdonald's you know what was really funny to me is when we went to vancouver as part of the West coast tour with Dear Blanca, our bros. And in America, um, there was just Cardi B's McDonald's meal. And then there was the other one. What was it?

Offset. Oh, um, Travis Scott was the first one. Oh. And then when we went to, we crossed the border into Canada and Justin Bieber had a, um,

Tim Hortons meal. It's just like, Hey, it's all, they have the equivalent up here. That felt like a South Park episode. Wait, did Offset do one or am I out of my mind? Yes. Yeah, Cardi and Offset had like a combo together, like a couple meal, a couple's meal. Hey, speaking of Cardi B, the precursor to Cardi B,

Nicki Minaj just announced a tour. We should go to a Pink 2 tour. Oh, my God. I would go. That would be great. I think that would be so fun because I think like no way she's doing anything but like hits and like half. It's like half the songs each just to get to the next one. And like, you know, how much could it be like general admission at the forum or wherever it is like that sounds like a blast i bet she's got like cool uh

stage setups and stuff hey now wait a minute nobody's really did you guys see the beyonce movie no i i can't nobody's talking about let's talk about it i know why is nobody talking about it taylor ate beyonce's launch so hard this year. And I don't know, maybe it's just like a demographic thing, but I remember way back, way back during I'm gonna let you finish. Remember Beyonce had the greatest video of all time.

Yeah. And apparently Beyonce was trying to like extend an olive branch to the Taylor crew and was just like, Hey, let's meet up and I'm going to give you the playbook to my whole showbiz deal. Wow. And Taylor said like, cool, we're bros now, Beyonce and Taylor.

Even if Kanye's a little weird, we're friends with Beyonce's camp. And now cut to 2023, they both have giant tours. I've heard about Taylor's a thousand to one. Yep. And they both have movies. I heard aboutlor's a thousand to one yep and they both have movies i heard about taylor's a thousand to one what happened yep you know i think i think beyonce's might also be

a documentary and it's not eras it's like the one yeah it's renaissance it's the latest right it's the one she's just touring the new album yeah and that the new yeah like i didn't go to the renaissance well i didn't make it to eras either but i wanted to but uh knowing that it was just the it's like the renaissance album in its entirety and uh but not the greatest hits but you're right though like at the start of 2023 if you would ask me who i like better taylor swift or beyonce i would have said Beyonce and Heartbeat. And I feel like so many of us and our friends would say that. And it's kind of... I did ask you that and you never texted me back. I still have that...

I still have the three dots. I was mulling it over all year. Three dots are still going. Damn, this guy. I've talked to you in person on other text chains, but I just want that one. It's killing me. Hmm. I have heard, though, that in person on other text chains but like i just want that one it's killing me hmm is it i have

heard though that um that gen z doesn't like beyonce she doesn't speak to them she doesn't speak to them in the way that taylor does might be too too old i mean she's taylor's 10 years younger or seven years younger than beyonce the age difference isn't huge but it might be enough like taylor's 34 beyonce's 42 and i do remember when beyonce released age difference isn't huge but it might be enough like taylor's 34 beyonce's 42 and i do remember when beyonce released her first tiktok um and all the comments were like oh yeah mom mommy made us a powerpoint everyone yes yeah it was very polished and she didn't hadn't absorbed what tiktok is and tried to be like i'm ascending from my throne to join your app yes so she made a vertical oriented little slideshow to promote an album.

And people were like, what is this? They just went totally different directions. Like, uh, Beyonce is supposed to be unapproachable. She's supposed to be like this distant queen of art. Sphinx like,

yeah. And stopped doing interviews a long time like flat out like you don't read a rolling stone interview with beyonce she doesn't do public appearances where she has to talk i think they sort of realize like it when she's herself like it's not as good and that like if she has some something personal to share from her life she's gonna do it like lemonade where she spins it into like a masterpiece but taylor's just going the opposite way it's like her whole thing is relatability and accessibility and she's at the football games and she's everywhere yeah and uh i think you're right like social media and culture just shifted towards we want to see everyone all the time yeah it's tough it's a tough

pivot to make because i don't know. Beyonce is talented. Obviously she's more talented than Taylor in a lot of ways. Hey, I say she's got some talent. That kid, that kid's got talent. So generous of you. The chick's got talent. I'm telling you. Hey, yeah, she's got it. She's going to be okay. But as far as far as you know what you said about approachability or what's the other word i'm looking for authenticity it's really tough to maintain like a um closed garden wall yeah mystery and be like yeah this is very authentic to me also um just stage of life wise regardless of age if beyonce was 42 and like chronically single and um tweeting about it and writing songs about like uh the car and the bar etc yeah yeah then

it would resonate more with the youth poor yawns she's she's like a she's she's a distant mom yeah well we like her anyway she'll be okay she'll okay. She'll be just fine. Another thing is that part of what we love about Beyonce is she's weird, right? Like her music is there's some weird beats and there's some there's some there's some eccentricities and like more avant garde than Taylor by a lot. Yes. And Taylor does none of that. Yes. And yeah, Taylor does none of that. And that's a stumbling block for a lot of like people of our generation and dudes and stuff getting into Taylor is like, no, it's pop. And there's nothing that's going to rub you the wrong way. Like it's just, it's very, it's very radio friendly and you're not getting anything that's challenging.

Well, now that we've weighed in on the two most popular females of our generation, what would you change about the drink? Anything? I got a whopper, so I'm going to let you go first. Oh, you're going to let me finish? I might dial back my lime. I'm going to cut my lime down to three quarters. I like that, Tim. I'm going to do the same thing, except I'm going to take my I'm going to do the same thing, except I'm going to take my simple syrup in half. Wow. I'm going to do it exactly the same, except what did I find in my bar cart in an old bottle covered in dust? No.

Yellow chartreuse. Hey, look at you, Jeff. I bet that's worth a lot of money. That's a duster. That's a dusty. A dusty. I liked when you guys were telling me money. That's a duster. That's a dusty. A dusty. I liked when you guys were telling me about the dusties. Yeah, we love dusties.

Oh, the dusties that made me puke after the finest meal I've had in 10 years? Dusty Duddy. I bet they made you puke because it was old, dusty, moldy, whatever. Yeah. I don't know. Worth it. It was a good puke. Do we know the difference?

I guess my question is for Tim here, but Mike, feel free to answer if you have any ideas. What's the difference between green and yellow chartreuse? Dye. The color, obviously. Aside from that, Tim, help me out here. I want to say we talked about it once and we said yellow was mellow or something like that. Like maybe it's a milder flavor. And green is mean.

And green was more green. Green is mean. And green was more green. Green is mean. Okay. But I can't remember. I haven't had yellow in a very long time, and the taste does not come to mind. Great. Well, I'll do a little side-by-side taste, and we'll report back. But for now, we're going to take a little break, and we'll be back here with round two after this.

Love that. Nice. Love that Nice And we're back with round two of the Industry Sour I made last second decision I did no simple syrup at all This is a three ingredient mix Wait, what? Dry guy No simple syrup at all I just did not do ingredient mix. Wait, what? Dry guy. No simple syrup at all. I just did not do the simple syrup.

What do you got? Here we go. He's going to retch. Nope. Nope. That's too much. It's too sour. You omitted an ounce of sweet.

I know. I know. Tim, your sip? For me, I've already sipped and I think I've fucked up because I... Oh, no. I dialed back the lime, and that allowed me to taste the other flavors more, which I like. But then, as a result, the thing's too sweet. It's too sweet.

The lime was balancing out the sugar. So I think we all need to just, I think we're going to need to heed Jack Schramm here and go one, one, one, three quarters of an ounce is simple. Stick with the recipe. It's a recipe for a reason. Man, I'm doing my yellow chartreuse here. You can see I got in one of these little mystery bottles. It's labeled, though. When we started this pod, I got like a 12 pack of these tall, skinny bottles that you might find olive oil in.

It looks like olive oil. A tall, skinny, square bottle. Sure. Because I knew I'd be having to divvy up a bunch of stuff with my boys. This tastes remarkably similar. It's like five degrees different in a way that I can't really articulate because they smell the same, the yellow and the green, and they also both are very star anise.

I bet you somebody with a better palate and a better vocabulary could tell you the difference between the two. I can't. So, folks, if you can find yellow or green cheaper, get it. Tell me what you think. Just took a little sip of yellow. That is good and plenty. Just on its own, I see.

Yeah, and here comes a little sip of green. Yellow's maybe a little sugary or sweeter. Okay, green's a little harsher. Green's a little harsher. I need to get to that Amaro bar again. Ah, yes. I never drank there, but I peeked my head in and said, oh. Yeah, it's cool.

It was on the way to, I think, Death & Co. It's right on the corner of that street. Anyway, it's a cool place. And I went in there once, and I was talking to a guy. I think his name was Lucky, the bartender. And I was the only one in there, and he knew Doughboy, so we were talking to each other about that. And it was those rare moments where you're like,

I'm talking to the bartender here, and I'm drinking an industry sour with the bartender because I'm one of the guys. You're part of the family over there because I'm one of the guys. You're part of the family over there. I'm one of the guys now. He's lucky to be talking to such a good guy. I said tonight

we're all so lucky. I should be so lucky. The first time we passed through that spot, I was like it's a place that has this weird drink and then now I'm really it's so weird that says something about life huh but like now i'm so into amari i'm always buying different ones it's such a conversation i'm so interested when i go to a bar i always say to the bartender i'm like what's

that one there's fernet and there's chinar but then we're in a verna but then what's this one and then i always want to try it and it's such a fun thing to do. Merely, what, two years after I was in a whole bar full of Amaro and didn't give a shit? Life is always evolving, okay? That's right.

Now he gets it, Jeff. We knew he'd keep catching on. Now he loves Amaro Nonino. Amaro Nonino. Amaro Nonino. Amore Amargo is the name of the place. Great labels on Amaros. Wait, you keep saying, yeah, that's true. You keep saying, Tim, Amare, is that the plural?

That's the plural. Yes, Michael. Yes. Wonderful, wonderful. Jeff, I got to circle back to chartreuse and point out that you decided to say green is harsher instead of saying yellow is mellow. Green is mean. Green is mean. Green is mean.

Yellow is mellow. That's when it comes to chartreuse. That's what the monks do. Green is mean. But that's when it comes to chartreuse. Yeah. When it comes to chartreuse, that's what the monks do. Green is mean. But that's when it comes to chartreuse. Yeah. When it comes to chartreuse, that's what the monks do. To tell you the truth when it comes to chartreuse.

Right. And when it comes to the bartender combining his favorite things, the rhymes were all off in segment one. It should have been simple and lime juice and fernet and chartreuse that would have been yeah a better kickoff one bite of burrito and i'll let this fart loose that's our show okay so you have the fart the farts in your butt but you're not letting it loose until you take a bite of a burrito. Yeah, the burrito's got to push it out.

The burrito's sort of the key. Yeah, the lock is your butt. That's our show. Follow us on social media. We didn't say what we like about it. We love it. I love this drink. This is an order again. It's an order again, Tim.

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Was there a Secret Santa this year? I think they did. Fucking, yeah, they did. That's cool. They did it all. They do it all. And now they're doing all the January festivities.

The naming of the resolutions The signing of the checks With this year's date on it Good episode guys Great work And great episode those of you listening at home You're part of this too you know I just finished that very sour, very limey round two.

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