The Sloppy Boys - 2. Zombie

Episode Date: October 30, 2020

The guys wear themselves out gathering ingredients for this tiki classic first invented in 1934. ZOMBIE RECIPE Jamaican Dark Rum - 1.5oz/45ml Gold Puerto Rican Rum - 1.5oz/45ml Demerara Rum - 1oz/30ml Lime Juice - .66oz/20ml Falernum - .5oz/15ml Donn's Mix* - .5oz/15ml Grenadine - 1 tsp Angostura Bitters - 1 dash Pernod - 6 dropsAdd all ingredients into an electric blender with 1/2 cup of cracked ice. With pulse button, blend for a few seconds. Serve in tall tumbler glass. Garnish with mint leaves. *Donn's Mix = 2 parts yellow grapefruit juice and 1 part cinnamon syrup.Recipes via the International Bartenders Association (https://www.iba-world.com/) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton along with Mike Hanford. Hey. And Tim Kalpakis. Hey everybody. And we're your hosts, the Sloppy Boys. Hello. Guys, how's it going?

Great. It is going great. And I'm excited. Hey, I'm excited to be back in the pod. Oh my God. You sound like a real podcaster. Thanks for having me back. Yeah, we had you back. Yeah. Yeah. Who's, would you say I'm a friend of the pod? Oh boy. More than a friend. You're a third of the pod. Host of the pod. We should have t-shirts made. How's life walking around being a podcaster now? I'll tell you what. It's kind of cool. I'm looking at new apartments, new cars.

It's great. I'm just plugging it a lot. I got a lot of tweets going on. Episode is up. Well, that's what I was saying. I'm walking down the street and people will walk by me and say, hey, friend of the pod. I say, you are?

You so. Why, there's only been one episode. And you love it, don't you? You love every minute of it. You drunk. So here we are, episode two. All the kinks are worked out. Yep, we figured it out. And it's a Halloween episode, huh?

Oh, baby. Happy Halloween. Yeah, it's funny. Jeff said, you know, all the kinks are it out. And it's a Halloween episode, huh? Oh, baby. Happy Halloween. Yeah, it's funny. Jeff said, you know, all the kinks are worked out. It did not take us 45 minutes to get this underway tonight. Ow. Everything was going great. This is also the episode where we realized what a double black diamond we've set out on today.

Yeah, we were thinking it's fun to make cocktails, but then already our second cocktail was a hard one. And if you looked at it when you were thinking about listening to this podcast, you probably said, that's just too many ingredients. That doesn't sound fun. I don't like these guys. Yeah, I hope it didn't scare you away. Because like, it's scary for two reasons. It's called a zombie.

Yes. That's scary. You know, it's Halloween time especially. If someone brings up a zombie to me in like February, I'm like, yeah, I kind of not really am not too worried about that right now. But if someone talks about a zombie around Halloween, I'm terrified. You're all ears, yeah. And then the list, the amount of ingredients on the list was horrific. Yeah, Tim, what's the deal with the discrepancies between all the different recipes for the zombie well because the zombie is a classic tiki drink and this is one of the originals by don the beachcomber

and then you got you know everybody making their own version of it because it's from the 1930s and like the thing with tiki is that don the Beachcomber, I'm told, I actually read a book about him. He's an interesting dude. He kept all of his ingredients secret. So if you were behind the bar, you'd be like, we're running low on number two. Or, hey, I got to go pick up some number four.

And you maybe didn't even know what was in each of those bottles. He's kind of like Kaiser Sozin. Oh, wow. Tim, when you say Don the beachcomber i nodded my head saying yo sure i saw i was looking at you like this guy's waving that head around yeah i love i know him now i did that because i recognize the name but i don't know who that is did he did he start tiki drinks he did and he's american and he started in the 30s. And that's the weird thing is. In Hawaii? In Los Angeles, California. Oh.

On McAdden and Hollywood. Kind of not really far from where Jeff is right now. Jeff, get down there. You should go down there. Report back, dude. See what you see, man. No, right? You think of Tiki, and you think it's South Pacific. People are drinking coconuts and making drinks.

But it didn't really exist as a genre until this dude who's kind of like a Bill Braske, most interesting man, Dos Equis kind of a guy, who has all these wild stories about him. In World War II, he was a major in the Air Force, and there's stories about him in like world war ii he was a major in the air force and there's stories about him you know winston churchill needed a hundred barrels of rum so they so they turned the don the beach car but so he's this dude that sort of uh started tiki based on nothing he had been a sailor and a bootlegger rum runner and then thought, Hollywood, they got all these movies, and I'm doing jobs on movie sets, so they probably would like a bar that's all kitschy and themed.

And he's right. People in Hollywood do like that type of stuff. Love that shit. So the Zombie is one of his originals. But it's getting bigger. The Tiki Bar aesthetic is big. Yeah, I mean, 10, 15 years ago, you would have just thought you don't even

think of the right drinks you think tiki's probably just pina coladas i would have thought it's just something in movies yeah i feel like all the tiki bars near me growing up had turned into sports bars and just had coronas with limes in them and stuff like that but there's a very specific menu that is the original tiki ones and i'll tell you what that original don the beachcomber bar there was a bar back and a bartender guy that worked there named ray booin and he opened up a after don the beachcomber closed he opened a bar of his own in silver lake called the tiki t hey i've been there sure and you know you know behind the bar the tiki Tea. Hey, I've been there. Sure. And you know behind the bar at the Tiki Tea, the old guy with the white beard?

Yeah. That's Ray's son. Oh. So that's as close. If you're anywhere on earth and you wanted to have the original, authentic Tiki cocktails, if you got that dude making it for you,

that's probably the closest direct contact we have to Don the Beachcomber. Dang. I remember the first time I went to the Tiki tgt i think maybe you guys were with me uh i went into the bathroom and they came out and everyone was yelling toro toro and like cheering and there was a little bull on the wall that was like a mechanical bull figure on the wall that was like going like and uh i was like what the fuck just happened yeah they have a few of those i remember one time uh there was a chicago comedy dude in town visiting and i was

like i'm gonna impress this guy so i ordered him one of those toro toros and everybody everybody cheered and i was like pretty cool huh he's like yeah and then i brought him next door to el chavito and i ordered some bandera shots where they line up the hot sauce in different shot glasses. Rest in peace, El Chavito. And I was like, no, we shoot these back, and it wasn't this cool. And then he was like, Tim, you know, you could just get me a normal drink. Just give me an old style, Tim. Yeah, this is not the kind of thing I like to do, okay?

Remember at TKT, I thought one summer would be fun to get the menu and try to go through it all. And I realized that would have cost me like $3,000 to do. Yeah, well, welcome to this damn podcast, man. I know. This one alone was just like breaking the bank to get all these

Penrads and Furmanos and whatever. It's such a tight-knit group over at tkt like when i last maybe not maybe not when i last went because now i know better when i first went i was like hey could i get one of those like fun cool glasses and the guy looked at me it was just like yeah people bring those from home because you you go in and everybody's got like oh this mug looks like a dragon or groucho marks or a lady's tits and i was like you sir get a little pint glass you have to bring that home could you bring me one from home actually you know what they gave me a bunch of swag one time because i

back in our sketch comedy days when we first sold our tv show you know how you you're you're told like hey they picked up the pilot but you don't go around town flapping your trap about that you have a tv show yet because whoops you gotta wait for contracts to come through and lawyers argue and all that stuff so on that very first night i couldn't really talk about it i went out to the tiki tea with jessica and her friends and uh her friends didn't know and And I didn't tell her friends. So I was just kind of like quietly, like really happy. And,

uh, they were talking about whatever they were talking about. And I just sat at a stool. These drinks are strong. People make fun of Tiki drinks, but right. There's like four shots of these drinks. It's nuts.

So I had drink after drink, after drink, just having my own little party. And I blacked out sitting up at a stool i mean i don't even i can't i can't remember last time i drank like that but it was kind of because i was just holding it in and those guys apparently i don't really remember but every time i was buying a drink i was like tipping a lot of money because i thought it was a big shot so that then at the end of the night jessica looked at me and my eyes were crossed and she's like i gotta get this guy out of here and he's drinking cartoon drinks and he looks like a cartoon drunk so she cut the night short and was like i'm putting tim in an uber i'll be right back

and as and as she was trying to leave to bring me outside, all the bartenders were like, hey, he's leaving. Here, give him this and give him this. And they took a bunch of like, you know, coconut mugs and a bunch of postcards and a bunch of fun kitsch stuff. And they handed her like an armload of free stuff because I probably tipped them 200 bucks. To go to a restaurant, to go to a bar and like impress the bartenders enough where they're giving you free things is of legend you know who would disagree with you as my accountant sure and tim you bring up a good point about the tiki drinks is a characteristic of all tiki that you're just splashing together various kinds of like rums yeah Yeah, it's a lot of rums. I mean, this drink has three different types of rum. All those bottles at a tiki bar,

they're all just weird kind of sticky. There's not even that much fresh fruit involved. You know, you would think they'd be blending up a lot of papaya or whatever. It's all syrups. Yeah, it's all syrups. It's a lot of stuff that was already at bars. And then they're just like,

if I put the grenadine on top of the lime juice. Yeah. I remember I was at the Tiki Tea once and I'm looking through the menus. What's in, I don't know what's in the beach coat, whatever it was. And the guy's like, well,

simple syrup. You got raspberry syrup. We do another. So I said, why don't you serve me the thing in a fucking pancake? You said that? What did he say? How did he react? I said that to him.

Well, I'll tell you what he didn't do. He didn't give me t-shirts and hats or anything like that. Basically, he grabbed my t-shirt by the collar and the top of my pants and I went flying out the front door. Oh, man. Have you ever had the zombie at the Tiki Tea?

I don't think so. I've had it at that other place up in North Hollywood that we've gone to at the uh that other place up in north hollywood that we've gone to what's that place called tonga tonga yeah the tonga hut that place is great too that place is very legit that's the real thing and i feel like the only time i ever really order zombies is if you know one time you guys were already at the tonga hut and i was meeting you to see an adam sandler movie but i arrived late and you were a few drinks deep and i'm trying to catch up. That's like the only time I would order a zombie.

Cause the whole thing is that this is a really, really, really strong drink. Oh, getting ready for this podcast today. I was remembering those times of going to the Tonga room and then going across the street to that cheap, not cheap,

but a fun movie theater. Like it felt like a movie theater out of the nineties and drinking those drinks and having like two of them. And all of a sudden like hitting you. all of a sudden being like whoa i gotta i can't really stand up here so well and we gotta cross this busy road and you were putting jalapenos on your popcorn that's the move that's the old hanford move that's right my move is to put so much buttered jalapeno on a popcorn, eat the whole large, and then be sick for the rest of the night.

That's a good plan. And knowing that that's going to happen on the very first kernel. But it is true that you order the zombie when you want a really strong drink because it turns you into a zombie. That's where the name comes from. A guy, Don the Beachcomber, gave one to a guy, a businessman, who came back later and said, that turned me into a zombie at work that day. Ah, that's funny.

I guess he went to work. So, yeah, this was the first drink that really took off for Don. You know, he later had a whole bunch of hit drinks that we all know. But this was a nationwide sensation. And you want to hear what's in this, baby? Let's get into it. Yes, I do. And we tracked down most of this stuff,

but it was hard. Okay, first we had three rums. An ounce and a half of dark Jamaican rum. Then we got an ounce and a half of gold Puerto Rican rum. Then we have an ounce of Demerara rum. Okay, let me stop you right there. I have an ounce of Demerara rum. Okay, let me stop you right there. I've never heard of Demerara rum. Nor had I.

It's a fun one to say. It confused the guy at the fancy liquor store when I asked him for it. So he had to Google it. And then he did have it on his shelf. What is it? Because I didn't get that one. I will say, smelling this stuff,

it is scintillating. It smells like legit, it smells like the rum you don't have your house but that you smell at a tiki bar right it's rich um i looked it up it's a rum from guyana i think i'm saying that right and uh then the other ones are more accessible but when you mix them all together they're supposed to make each other stronger. Ooh, kind of like us. Yeah, it is kind of like us. I'd say the three rums in this drink are like the three of us.

I think that I'm gold rum. Well, you do have a nice golden tan. Thank you. And wait, Tim, I noticed that a lot of zombie recipes have overproof rum in them. What's the deal with IBA? No, the IBA recipe has no 151 or anything of that sort.

I think they chickened out. The cool thing is the tiki websites I looked at, they put their overproof rum on top as a floater, a Bacardi 151 floater. And they light it. Yeah, that's cool. The IBA should do that. This organization is foobar, man. They should be lighting all their drinks on fire, that's cool. The IBA should do that. This organization is FUBAR, man. They should be lighting all their drinks on fire, the IBA.

And I assume the IBA is listening episode two. Yeah, but this drink, like a lot of our drinks, can be adapted. We definitely invite any sort of substitutions if it helps you have fun. Well, yeah, you have to. You might not have Pernod at home. Not many people have too much Pernod.

Let's get through the rest of the ingredients. I'm sorry. Please, please, please. Well, yeah, pernod is the grand finale. So then we got half an ounce of fresh lime juice, easy. Half an ounce of falernum. Duh. Now, me and Jeff waltz into a liquor store,

and I look at the shelf, and I see falernum bitters. And it's $20 for a teeny bottle. So then I tell the guy at the counter, is this falernum bitters and it's 20 bucks for a teeny bottle. So then I tell the guy at the counter, is this falernum? And he goes, no. And he brings us some falernum liqueur and he goes, that's what you want. And it's a big bottle and that's only $20. So he said, that's better. Then I get home and I Google falernum and it's a syrup that is, doesn't have any alcohol in it. So what I'm learning is Falernum is basically anything that's

like a sweet almondy syrup that has allspice clovey taste to it. Anise? It has like an anise taste? No, not anise. That's more black licorice-y. This is more nutmeg-y. Aha. Then half an ounce

of Don's mix. That must be down the beachcomber. Come on. That's the man himself. You gotta give it up for him. This was one of these ones that was numbered behind the bar. It was ingredient number four, and some tiki nerd had to hack

for centuries to figure out what it was. But it's grapefruit juice and cinnamon syrup. What did you guys do to try to make Don's mix? I did simple syrup and cinnamon, which is like powdered cinnamon, and grapefruit. Yeah, same. I bought a grapefruit and squeezed it. Nice.

I did find a yellow grapefruit juice because we just saw a lot of ruby red on our travels. We found the good stuff, the yellow. That is a good drink. You're going to be glad you have that around. Tim, you said the proper way of making Don's Mix, because I have cinnamon sticks. I wish I had known this.

I would have done it. Oh, damn. Yeah, we're learning that this whole show is going to be a lot of Googling after the fact and being like, oh. So anyone listening, if you got the wrong stuff, that's totally fine. But I just Googled now and saw that you sit this two big cinnamon sticks into simple syrup overnight. And then the next day, or you can like boil it to heat up the process.

But the next day you have cinnamon syrup. up the process but the next day you have uh cinnamon syrup what i did was i before bringing the grapefruit in i used normal simple syrup then i shook some cinnamon in and then i said i want to get these grains of cinnamon out so that they don't get caught in my poor teeth so i said i know timmy here's what you do you You filter it now through a coffee filter. You keep the cinnamon taste and you lose all the gritty flakes. And I did that and I was real proud of myself. And then when I tasted the syrup,

it had totally taken the cinnamon taste out again. So I was just going back and forth like a moron. This is a cartoon man's drink. Like pouring out the cinnamon and looking at the drink, the cinnamon's gone. What is the process of coaxing the syrup through the paper coffee filter? It dripped slowly, but it did drip. But I was just thinking when you make coffee, the paper doesn't take the coffee taste out of the coffee. You don't get clean water.

take the coffee taste out of the coffee. You don't get clean water. Did you, when you were filtering it through, did you then think, oh, maybe I should filter this syrup through a fucking pancake with a syrup on it? It's true. I feel like I'm at the IHOP International House of

Pissing Me Off. Tim, is there anything else we gotta know about the prep before we get started on making these? Yeah, then a teaspoon of grenadine. Hey, grenadine is kind of interesting, right? You guys might think that's cherry syrup. It actually calls itself pomegranate syrup. Damn.

But I'm sure it's artificial. Dash of Angostura bitters. That's your normal bitters. And six drops of the dreaded Pernod. Pernod. Pernod. Oh, my God. When I saw Pernod, I was like, what is this word? I've never seen this.

It doesn't sound like anything to do with liquor drink. It looks like the name of a dork. Oh, no, my science project teamed me up with Pernod. This was another wild goose chase that we had at the liquor store. Yeah, this was a mess. Jeff, we were like the Hardy Boys trying to crack the case on this one and and i don't know that we did i think we have the wrong thing you on my team over here looking for this stuff it was a lot of uh i don't know what that is i can ask one guy he's never heard of it either moving on to grapefruit i know

what that is so did you get a a substitute forod, or did you just skip it altogether? Pernod's a skip for me, dog. Okay. Yeah. For us, we saw Pernod Absinthe and said, well, we don't need the Pernod brand Absinthe. We'll just get this cheaper Absinthe. And then we found out that Pernod originally is not even Absinthe. Yeah, it's like, because Absinthe is, some people thought it was a hallucinogen.

It got outlawed. It got un-outlawed. So at some point, Pernod went from being absinthe to a normal liqueur back to absinthe. But I think this recipe is referring to just a normal black licorice tasting liqueur. So anybody at home,

if you want to make this, truly Jägermeister, Fernet, anything that remotely tastes like... But six drops? Yeah, it's such a small amount. That's so weird. Me and Jeff bought a $60 bottle of Absinthe. We'll be drinking Pernod into the new year. We're going to have to do Absinthe on the show and do that whole thing because i didn't realize it was only six

drops what a goddamn waste well oh here's you so here's a thing i didn't do so i didn't buy grenadine but i had uh maraschino cherries that i got for the tom collins on the lap last episode you know i bought myself a nice 14 bottle of uh jar of cherries because there's couldn't be found anywhere for any other price and uh i go to like gather all the stuff today i have no idea where the cherries went in this house like they're gone like they're not in the fridge i put them in the fridge and they're not there and uh you know they're not on the counter where i was told they might be let me ask you this uh today did you notice if your neighbor had a big red ring around his lips? Yeah, and he had his shirt off too, which was strange.

And he had kind of like 24 little tiny bumps in his stomach. And he's like, can I help you? Don't bother me now. I'm looking for maraschinos. Well, tell this guy he should be chewing, okay? Chew those cherries, my man. What kind of glass are we looking at here, Tim? Because I'm seeing electric blender and I don't got one.

Yeah, that's funny. So, I mean, there aren't too many actual blender drinks in Tiki, right? I feel like that's more the, when you think of your, you're at a cruise ship and you get a knockoff version of a Tiki drink, it's in a blender, but usually they're on the rocks. This one is blended, but it's not blended up so much. You'll be okay, Jay, because it's just a little blast of the blender. I was reading, and everyone says, you build this drink in your blender, and then you add

170 grams of cracked ice. I don't know how many. That's half a cup. Oh, half a cup of cracked ice. But then you just give it a quick little pulse blast in the blender for three to five seconds. You don't need to turn this into a frozen margarita. Oh, yeah. Just a few pumps.

Yeah, just a few pump pumps. Well, you know what's funny? I feel like a lot of tiki bars that aren't in California and doing the real deal will have the tiki drinks mixed. And it's in a, something that they like, uh, like a tap or something. They got a big old vat of it.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like that's like when it is blended, like a smoothie kind of, it's like one of those types of things. You ever been to, uh,

bourbon street in new Orleans and they have these daiquiri places where they have 50 different flavors of that spinning on the wall and you get them like slush puppies. Oh yeah. Uh, it's so fun. They get them like slush puppies. Oh, yeah. It's so fun. They're just high fructose corn syrup. Wait, where did you see this, Tim? Bourbon Street.

Okay, guys, I saw it down Key West one year. Ah. And one of the ones that they had was named 151 Red Bulls, and it was Bacardi 51 and Red Bull in a fucking Slurpee machine. What a weird thing to do. Just blacking people out left and right. People running extremely fast down the street and then just diving into the ground.

Well, guys, I think I'm about ready to start mine. I got mine pretty close to the letter of the law. But no blender, so you just give it a hard shake, I guess. I'm just going to shake the shit out of it, and I got no pernod. That's okay. Wait, no, but you have absinthe. I gave you absin shake the shit out of it and I got no pernod. That's okay. Wait, no. But you have absinthe. I gave you absinthe. Oh, yeah.

So we'll use this up. Everyone at home, use Jaeger. We don't care. Or if you're having to be so lucky you've got abundance of pernod, use that. We'll be right back with more Sloppy Boys. Alright, cheers, boys. We're back. All right. Cheers, boys. We're back. Hey.

Bottoms up. Down the hatch. Ooh. Pied Piper. I mean, the tricky thing is, yeah, it's got a little spice to it As far as like being really aromatic But it tastes good I could pound a bunch of these and I can definitely See why they would sneak up on you so hard

I'll tell you what What I did with that cinnamon Where it was just like just the powder I did a couple dashes on top Is very strong in this one You're mainly just getting cinnamon taste? Yeah, I bite into it. This fully has three shots of liquor in it,

and you're just getting cinnamon. Yeah, this is, I mean, I'm tasting that rum too, baby. Doesn't it have, it has that taste like, I'm impressed that I made this in my kitchen because it really does taste like something a bartender handed to you at the Tonga Hut. Yes, all it costs you is making a mess of your kitchen to make one drink. Yeah. It takes so long to make. I felt like such a dork, you know, with this many bottles, you picture Tom Cruise throwing around or a guy at a tiki bar just going bloop bloop,

but me measuring out each little thing and going back to the fridge 200 times i'm a dork i'm starting to think i'm a dork at certain tiki places i know like there's only a limit of like ordering two of these at a time because it's they take so long yeah and i think it's because they're too strong you get cut off that was a don beach thing is you can only have two per night because otherwise you'll i mean it's it's three shots in each drink you know yeah the other fun thing to do at a tiki bar is um when your friend or the guy in front of you order something and the bartender goes through all the trouble when you step up and say like all of this is the same thing well i'm you know i'm i'm enjoying this but i just with every sip i'm

like god if there was just falernum in here, I would really be singing praises. Yeah, let me tell you, it is good. This falernum. I would say. You guys are so lucky you got your hands on the falernum. Folks, if you don't have falernum, get a little Orgeat almond syrup. Put a little allspice in there. It's just that easy.

And folks, he didn't say old spice. You don't want to put the deodorant down there. It's just that easy. And folks, he didn't say old spice. You don't want to put the deodorant down there. No. Whew. I am feeling it though, like already with a couple sips. Hold up your drinks again. I want to see something here. I want to see how your like ice blend went. Oh, Jeff,

you just did the ice cubes. I'm like half, yeah, I blended it but then I also threw three cubes just to fill up the cup. I know, I blended it but it's like it's more that like crushed slushy type ice with some chunks in it. Yeah, it's okay if it's a mix. Hey, I'm not complaining. I'm not complaining. It's just new for me.

I garnished with a mint sprig like the IBA told me to. Yeah, me too. You know, it's nice to get a little sniff of mint as you. Yeah, is that what that is? Like, you're not really getting the taste. You're just kind of smelling it as you're drinking it. Yeah. That's a funny way of doing things.

Like, you're exciting the nostrils while sipping, by tantalizing the tongue. Well, it's working. I'm looking at your nostrils, and those things are flaring all over the place. They're flaring them in and around. This guy keeps flaring them Well I had two sips of this I'm going nuts over here

Yeah I'm about to Kind of get behind the wheel of my car I do want to put a disclaimer I want to put a disclaimer on this right now You're not drinking it You're not going out after drinking this thing You guys don't understand. If I'm driving, I need a drink

to loosen me up. I can't drive all stiff. All uptight. That's bad. Mike, hear him out. He's got a point. Alright, alright. He's a pretty logical guy usually, so I'll hear that. Picture me behind the wheel, hands shaking, sweating because I'm stiff and I'm nervous. No, you gotta relax.

Have a couple of zombies. This will make me drunk. I will definitely. It's a one drink drunk kind of a thing. Yeah, yeah. That's part of the pod, baby. Well, I am feeling a little zombie-ish after getting going on this thing. I could see why that guy said, hey, hey, Don.

Yeah, what? Yesterday when I had that drink okay you're back i felt like a zombie oh cool i'll name it a zombie and what a time for halloween oh yeah a drink fit for a pumpkin time hey oh did I tell you guys about who I saw the other day? No No I guess I didn't tell you guys Okay, so I was, I'm in New York, you know, and I was in Central Park Sure

And I'm just, I was walking through and then just said, I gotta take a break I'm sitting on the benches because the park is humongous And who do I see over there, over a ways away, let's say Steve Winwood Oh Steve Winwood. Oh. Steve Winwood walking in the park. I couldn't believe it.

And he was there with this guy, and they were kind of within ear, they got close to me, and they got within earshot so I could hear them a little bit. And it was really weird because I could see him from a distance. It didn't look like a fun conversation. It was like one where you're, you know, someone's kind of, not heated, just stressed, just stressed. And the guy he was talking to was a friend of his i gathered and he was like from a different country i think it

was russian or ukrainian or something like that and i can't i heard steve winwood again saying you know there's something i gotta tell you about uh something that's gonna happen soon in this country uh i gotta let you know about it but oh no yeah i also don't want to like make you nervous or scare you or something and the russian guy was like no you can tell me just tell me what it is i want to you know i want to be immersed in american culture he said yeah but this thing it's something that happens, and I don't like it. It's coming up. And he said, just Steve, just tell me. And he said, what? What? It's so funny.

It's the accent. I'm picturing you in this scenario, just how you're trying to enjoy your day in Central Park, and you get pulled into this whole thing. Yeah, I was enjoying being a voyeur to some little snippet of conversation. Yeah, a big star, too. Steve Winwood. Yeah, a huge star.

Steve Winwood. Rock and rolls. Yeah. Great guy. Great singer, piano player. Good man. And they're going on, I got to tell you this thing, but I don't want to. Just tell me.

The Russian guy said, there's probably something in my culture that that is very similar so it won't be too weird for me and steve said he said no i don't think so this thing i'm talking about is weird and finally the russian guy said just tell me and steve steve looked at his friend and he said oh said that. Here we go. Okay, I'll just tell you, and I'll tell you because you're my friend. Hard to handle every year unless you like skeletons. That's interesting. It is interesting. There's a day coming up. Right, that's what they were talking about.

Sure. It's October 31. Halloween. Spooky scene. We'll all scream. Halloween. There's candy. But Dracula makes a scream.

Woo! And he went, woo! And he kind of... Wow. You were there for that? I was there. I was listening to the whole thing. He wanted to tell his friend about Halloween.

Mike, I got to tell you, you're a really good journalist. The way that you kind of relay, you observed and relayed all that, especially all those things that he said. Right. Right. And I could gather just from the body language. And I think a good journalist needs to look at people's body language and sort of pass that along with their writing.

It's really amazing. It's funny, Tim, you said I'm a good journalist, but you skipped over a good singer. Oh, well, I thought that you were struggling to hit the high note. Struggling? Yeah, it was sort of like Halloween. You know, that sound that's sort of like usually characterized as like maybe a bad singing. Whoa. I'm not saying that.

Well, you got to understand my voice is barely warmed up. That's true. I didn't do any of my exercise. Again, I'm not a vocal authority in any way. I mean, listen. Come on. I could feel it not a vocal authority in any way. I mean, listen, law, yes, come on. I could feel it. I could feel my throat tight. When Bob Woodward and

Ronan Farrow, when they sing their discoveries, they're not always on pitch. Right, right, right. So, because they're busy working on the story and probably forget to warm up their voices, too. I was also kind of worried about being too close to the microphone and maybe peeking.

No, you did that great. A lot going on. A lot going on with the microphone distance. Don't worry, Mike. It's episode two. The kinks are worked out. Yes, right. Exactly.

The kinks are good here. When you guys say kinks, you're not talking about Ray Davies himself, are you? Damn. What? I'm having a little fun. We are a rock and roll party band, so they've got some party stuff going on in the kinks. I'm having a little fun. We are a rock and roll party band, so they've got some party stuff going on in the king. I'm sorry, I've got to say this last 15 minutes of me talking,

that was the zombie talking, okay? Tim has left the building. But yeah, I do want to put this to bed and just say that Steve Winwood, what a great guy for telling his friend. He was so worried about his friend, and he told his friend about Halloween, which is, of course, somebody coming maybe from a different country doesn't know exactly about it. And he was very sensitive to that. It's very nice of him.

And so the friend, how did it all work out? Did he run to the nearest airport or did he stick around? No, he said, I'm terrified, but I'm going to stick it out here with you. He said, thanks for telling me. Yeah, yeah. And Steve clapped him on the back and said, now let's go get a pumpkin to cut up. And the Russian guy said, what have I got myself into?

And he looked at me and said that. I was like, I don't want to get into this. I'm already going to maybe bring this up on the podcast. I'm not getting involved No, not with you I know one guy's name I don't know the other guy's name And I don't get involved with groups if I only know one person's name

Was the Russian guy Gorbachev? Is he still alive? I had this thing about how he had a funny Birthmark Nobody would even know Gorbachev's name if he didn't have that head mark. You know he's taking a Sharpie

and drawing that in their head. Yeah, yeah. In fact, is that a joke in Naked Gun or something? Probably. Probably. I should write for Naked Gun. Are they hiring writers? Do you know?

Yeah, maybe. Gorbachev's wife comes in and catches it. What are you doing? Upping my public profile. Well, folks, we'll be right back. I don't know. That's good. I have a little loose man after this.

Yeah, I need a second to like regroup here. Yeah. And we're back. Let's circle back to these drinks, boys. I'm about halfway through, and I am feeling it. I got a lampshade on my head. Jim, looking at your drink, it's like I'm this far down. I'm getting down to the

bottom. Oh no, you got to get moving, man. We're reaching the end here. I haven't done anything here. We're in segment three. It gets better as you sip because the cubes... We're in segment three. Yeah, the whole everyone listening is thinking segment three. Oh no, they better be done with those drinks.

Oh, I skipped straight to segment three because that's where things are really funny. I think mine tastes better now because the first few sips were like gasoline, and then it got a little melty, and now it's like a nice punch. Hanford's shirt is coming off. What's going on over there, man? I'm too hot. That thing flew off. And I might add, it was a Lakers shirt,

and you should keep it on for the whole offseason to celebrate their championship. You shouldn't be taking it off. Congrats to the Lakers. Jeez, LeBron, Rondo, those guys, great series, great season. And you got to give it up for the Heat, too. Jimmy Butler, he's one of my new faves. I'm getting hot myself.

This is not a drink to wear your shirt during. No, I had to. That's why all those tiki beach bum guys have their shirts unbuttoned all the way down the gut. Yeah. No, I got no, like, I can't turn a fan or ac on in this room because it'd be too loud so i'm just melting and i'm not gonna pound this thing or else i'll fall out the window i have two fans blaring on me and air conditioning and i'm sweating bullets too i'm red in the face god the zombie man we look like cartoon drunks that fell in barrels of ale it's funny when we started

this i was like you know let's not warm up to the line item you know like let's do it right away so that we can drink throughout the whole pod and i was like but it's just one drink does it really matter with the zombie it absolutely it's three drinks you would never just take three shots in a row that would be insane in normal life so to pour them into a cocktail no good but here's what i wanted to ask you guys now that we're deep into these drinks yeah with it with the tom collins we talked about what uh like a who what where what type of person and place you picture drinking these drinks tom collins we said it was like a tennis lady at the

club or it was a southern gentleman on a porch. When you're drinking the zombie, what comes to mind? Who's drinking this thing? Well, I just was getting at a guy wearing cutoff cargo shorts, a Hawaiian shirt unbuttoned, and a straw hat, and he is burnt, baby. He's unburnt bad. Yeah.

He's red. I feel like you fall into two categories with the zombie type one is the type who doesn't know any better they don't know what they're getting into yeah yeah you gotta watch out for those people type two is you get the people who do know what they're getting into and you gotta watch out for them twice as much yeah yeah that's what i was gonna say is the the happy beach bum is probably sipping on something kind of laid back and when i drink this i'm thinking of like a guy at a tiki bar who's kind of a nerd and he's got like he's like uh he's got like glasses and a yankees cap and he's kind of really smart and he's oh yeah zombie actually is is, you know, because it's not really a, it's not a drink you would just drink.

You would only order it because you're making a point. You almost are like thinking about it in the way we're talking about it. Like what's in it? You're telling your friends what's in it and like. Or if you have an ax to grind with your brain and your liver. You go to a bar and you're like, I'm going to show my fucking liver.

You don't like your body and you're trying to kill it off but it doesn't seem like a like a rowdy party guy drink because it's too takes too long to make and it's too complicated yeah that'd be very funny if a very cool party guy had a bunch of falernum and don's mix in his fridge yeah but you do gotta watch out i feel like um a well-meaning spring breaker is gonna get their fucking ass kicked by this yeah yeah no this will catch you off guard the weird thing about this drink though is on a menu at a bar it is like 22 dollars yeah yeah right so you know when you're ordering it something's up right and you've got to be I think you hit it there Tim with like the nerdy guy and I know that look it's a guy wearing like

pretty brand new jeans with a muted color Hawaiian shirt tucked in and a woven leather belt but yeah you gotta be kind of like older and established is the wrong word older and have a job.

I mean, yeah, all this stuff is expensive. Like what one of you guys were saying about the tiki tea, you want to drink your way through that menu, and then you realize that you have to sell your car in order to do it. It's a whole, it's a career. As we get into the colder months here, I always thought it would be funny to get a long sleeve Hawaiian shirt yeah they make those right you can get those

you should because they're weird as hell with like buttons on the cuffs to keep it nice and tight that's really funny to wear under like a suit you'd look handsome as hell I bet it would work really well under a suit I bet you somebody's done that like Bieber or Diplo have done that, I bet you. Yeah, but I just feel like Diplo was walking around wearing no clothes

at all. That guy doesn't have time. That's true. He's making beats. He's producing. That's the type of shit I should be doing. Yeah, man. What are you doing? I'm drinking zombies with my friends on a podcast. Looking for falernum? He's wearing no clothes at all. I spent my whole week looking for Falernum.

Hey, that could be a good album title for us, Looking for Falernum. Looking Falernum. Looking Falernum. You all right there, Mike? Yeah, man. All right, guys, let's get into our final thoughts here. All right?

Yeah, baby. Kick it off there, T. I would say, you know know am i ordering it again yes but only in a certain context which is i'm gonna have it's a one drink night or it's ending the bar is just called last call and i want to sip for a long time it's a busy bar i i love tiki drinks but i want to drink a mai tai or a normal tiki drink I can't be mainlining this much rum to the dome I will say

you know is this going to be a round two order a round tour for me under the right in the right hands I don't think I'm going to make this the way I did it again for myself it's going to be probably many way I did it again for myself.

Yeah. Like it's going to be probably many years until I collect all the things that need to go into a zombie. And are you going to be working consistently for those many years collecting all the ingredients? I'm going to need to. It's funny. I bet you could have like a pretty great time if you had like a 20 ounce bottle of club soda and one of these. Yes. great time if you had like a 20 ounce bottle of club soda and one of these yes you know like you could have like you could dole that out until like a whole night as opposed to just getting fucking shithouse right out the gate that actually sounds pretty fun if you're cruising around a

party and you had one zombie and a two liter of seltzer that's that's that's five hours of fun yeah i would say final thoughts thoughts, I was surprised. I thought I would like this more than the Collins, and I think, you know, if I had to make a night of it, I'm going Collins, just looking out for my own safety. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Smart. But, you know, we don't want to get too reductive here

with the ratings and the rankings of these drinks. No, not at all. It's all about having fun. We're hoping to give you a nice, full, long-form review here, folks. I would suggest this to someone who maybe didn't make one for this podcast or for this episode. I'd say get yourself to a tiki bar and have a pro make it. Yeah.

Don't go to Mike Hanford's house and get him to do it. You're going to get a lot of cinnamon in your drink. He doesn't know where the maraschinos are. He can't find the falernos. He's not wearing a shirt. He's a fucking mess. It's a mess over here. I cannot turn on the AC.

His AC's off because it's too loud. Oh, boy. That does it for the zombie, and if I understand correctly, Tim, you got a quiz for us? I do. Are you guys ready to have your wits tested? Always.

Always. Now more than ever, my man. Yeah. When I'm at my sharpest. I purposely dulled your wits, and now I'm going to swoop in. Yeah, it's pop quiz time. I got a quiz for you guys. I've got two options for a quiz.

Whoa. Because I was like a madman typing into my notes app today quiz ideas. So would you guys, you can, you get to pick the quiz you take. Ready? Uh-huh.

Do you want to take, because it's Halloween, aka All Hallows Eve. Huh. Would you like to take a quiz that is celeb candy quiz? Ooh. Which is,

we're talking about celebs who famously love certain candy treats. You may have heard of them. I'll tease them and see if you can guess who I'm talking about because they famously love them. Then the other quiz,

this one is movie scenes that scared Tim the most. This one is a combination of film history knowledge and knowledge of your little buddy, Tim. Can we do half and half? No, no, no. You can, but I just drank a zombie,

so I don't know if I could bounce back and forth that easily. Yeah, that's true. I think we can save either one for another time, so I think let's... What do you feel like doing, Jeff? I kind of like this one where we guess how scared Tim is. Yeah, I like that too.

These are... I took a few minutes today and I thought about... Also, Tim, famously not too affected by the movies that he watches. Not affected. I told you guys that when I saw the movie Room, and she was wrapping her son up in the rug to try to get him out of the... Oh, wait, not the room.

I'm talking... Room, yes. Yeah. When she was... Brie Larson was wrapping her son up in the rug, and I was... I worried, and I turned to Jessica and I said,

I'm worried, and I've never... I don't feel that anymore. So I'm not an emotive guy. Just audio and visual doesn't get my heart pounding. But I thought back through my whole life. So some of these scenes scared me recently. And some of them scared me when I was way younger.

So they may not be scary to you now. They may be aged differently is what I'm getting at. Good, good, good. Okay, great. So how about this? It's five. to you now they may not they maybe age differently is what i'm getting at good good okay great yeah so how about this it's five there are five of these and i and i think it could be kind of fun to uh i'll keep score but you could just if you have a guess right off the bat before you even give any hints you could knock one right off if you guess a movie. Like right now? I can guess maybe a movie.

Blair Witch Project. Jeff, you got one. Did I? Holy shit. Was it the guy facing the corner? Yes, the guy in the corner is number four in my all-time scariest Tim moments. Yeah, that is a scary one. I want to say one of them is from Paranormal Activity because I know you love that franchise. Mike, that's a scary one i want to say one of them is from paranormal activity because i know

you love that franchise mike that's a very good guess i love love paranormal activity all which is so strange to me that that's the thing that's something you've put your money down i don't like the genre i don't really like movies let's be honest i think they're bad but for some reason i like those movies but i couldn't think of one. There was no specific scene in the Paranormals that scared me because it's a lot of demons and stuff, and I don't really, I don't know, it didn't make me jump quite as much. And maybe I was already in my late 20s by the time I saw those movies, so I wasn't as impressionable. But very good guess.

Okay, Jeff, you have one going into this. Number five. number four was blair witch number five this is sort of a uh a fun this is a comedy and it's a funny movie and it's kind of the one scary image in a kid's movie hmm i i know it but mike'm going to give you a head start geez uh in a kids movie I'm kind of guessing here but

is it in witches Angelica Houston in witches no where she reveals herself I don't know I think I got it Tim what do you got large Marge yes it is large Marge Dutton is back on the board with two. Back on the board.

He never left the board. That is a very, very funny movie, but that one scene used to scare the bejesus out of little old Timmy. Okay. Little old Timmy. This next film, this is a very scary scene, but it's not a horror movie. It's a gritty cop movie starring two cops.

Starring two actors that are cops? Yes, actors playing two cops. Can I guess? Yes. Do we have to buzz in? Do we buzz in with our names? No. I think it's pretty relaxed this time. Hanford's not wearing a shirt, so I don't think it's...

Okay, it's seven. Yes! Holy shit! And you already got the point just by guessing seven, but guess which of the seven deadly sins was the one that... Absolutely. Sloth. Wow, Mike. I'll split the point. I'll split the point with you. Yeah, you'll take the point.'ll split the point with you yeah you'll i do it with sloth because that scared me yeah because the sloth guy is tied down in the bed

and they think he's dead and then they go up to him he goes yeah freak me the fuck out it's okay so jeff you have two and a half mike you have a half nice now we're down to Tim's number two scariest film moment of all time. This is a big, giant hit movie. And the film itself has a little bit of a twist ending. That's all? Yeah. And it was directed by... Don't say it it don't say it don't say it's six cents yes but when you think back at that big studio scary movie which scene do you think

scared little timmy the most i bet you i know it's the girl from the oc throwing up in the tent so close because that scene that was very scary because she has vomit all over her chin. That's what I was going to guess too. Ooh, that really scared me. But there's one scene that scared me more. It's more of a louder scene. I don't know. Well, you already got the point.

So I'll just tell you, Jeff, it's the ghost of a housewife who has slit wrists. And she's showing her wrists and saying, you see what you made me do. And you see the cuts on her wrist and it's really loud. And I was scared. Dude, there's a lot of stuff like the, even just when they're walking around and the kid sees like the,

the nooses, the people hanging from nooses, that's scary. The top of the stairs, whole, whole idea is scary. Like he's just scared of like something at the top of the stairs, and he gets thrown in the closet.

Very freaky. Well, you know my scariest movie moment, I actually left the theater, was Fire in the Sky. I didn't know that. Oh, baby. You left the theater, yeah. Fire in the Sky. My mom took me.

She had free tickets to a movie. We went to see that. And I don't think either of us knew what it was about. And we watched it. And it was when the guy was abducted and stuck under the white sheet thing. Like sack? The fucking membrane? And that needle was going to go into his eye.

And I got out of there, man. In my household, that movie was famous too because my brother watched it at a sleepover, was really scared, and then my dad would always bring it up. It was like that was the one that freaked my brother out. And that was like a... Was that a TV movie?

No, that was an actual theater movie based on the experience of Travis Walton. Hey. Oh. I read the book. Did you watch Host yet? No, I need to. No, I gotta.

It's on Shudder. Oh, boy. That's brand new, right? Brand new, yeah. I gotta check it out. It's a Zoom movie, which I would think, I heard about it, I was like, uh, Zoom movie? I don't know. And it's very scary to me.

Yeah, speaking of scary, number one. Also, we're just closing this out. Mike has half a point. Jeff has three and a half points. Jeff both knows film history, but he knows his buddy, Tim. Oh, yeah. Usually, Tim, when Tim's talking about scary movies, my mind is in the other room. No, you knew that I love the paranormal activity movies, and that's very impressive.

Okay, number one. This is not as easy as the other ones, but hey, I can't change it. It's my number one thing that scared me the most. This is a scene starring a creepy girl in a Stephen King adaptation of one of his novels as a movie. I'm thinking it's Pet Sematary. Yes, Michael Hanford nailed it. I'm thinking it's Pet Cemetery. Yes, Michael Hanford nailed it. Now, what was your thinking behind that?

Did you know or was it a shot? I just, it's the only movie that I am certain, only Stephen King adaptation that I'm certain you have seen. Oh, so you did know that your friend Tim saw it. So it wasn't just film knowledge. It was friend knowledge. That was friend knowledge, because I don't know any of your Stephen King stuff. I was going to guess the tub lady from The Shining.

Ooh. She's scary. That's a scary one. But she's also kind of sexy, if you really think about it. Yeah, yeah. Until she's rotting away. Do you guys know the scene in Pet Sematary?

No. Never seen it. Okay, there's, it's the sister in the bed with the spinal meningitis saying, Rachel, Zelda, says, Rachel, help me, Rachel. Oh, Zelda says Rachel? Zelda says Rachel is number one. He didn't say Link.

And that wraps up the movie scenes that scared Tim the most. Can I tell you one of my, there's two scenes that always stick out most. Beep, boop, boop, boop, boop. Can I tell you one of my... There's two scenes that always stick out to me. It's like, they kind of scare me every time I see them. Yes. One is the ring when... Is it Amber Tamblyn? Is she in that?

Yes. When she, I think, finds her friend and her friend's jaw just like falls. Or maybe she's the one with the jaw. No, no, yeah, yeah. It's Naomi Watts finds Amber Tamblyn in the closet. Yeah, and her friend's jaw just like fall or maybe she's no no no no yeah yeah it's naomi watts finds amber tamlin in the closet yeah and her jaw and her jaw oh dude the way that ring is so so good it's pg-13 yeah like i i remember leaving the theater and seeing on the

way out i remember seeing the ring leaving and then seeing the poster on the way out and seeing that it said it was pg-13 and just hanging my head in shame as like as like a college student who's like pissed his jeans um the other scariest scene is in mall hall and drive when they go in the diner they go in the back to the dumpster and there's that one shot of the homeless guy demon guy or whatever that just like pushes in and the sound is just like dude it's getting so scary i love that movie so much and that image is amazing i'll tell you i had one that didn't make the list that was in my top 10 but not my top five which is a classic jurassic park when they look and they see that the goat is gone meaning that the T-Rex

ate the goat I remember when I first saw that in the theater I was like mom dad the T-Rex is near the goat ran away the T-Rex is near

I have two that come to mind. One is arachnophobia just in general scared the shit out of me. I was so scared of spiders that I would sleep in my bed and wrap my blanket. I would wrap my comforter around my whole head so just my mouth would be poking out and I could breathe because I was so scared of spiders. like around my whole head so just my mouth would be poking out and I could breathe because I was so scared of spiders and then the other one is uh numerous parts of Brave Little Toaster scared the shit out of me when I was a kid there's a lot of crazy stuff in Brave Little Toaster yeah well it's funny too because like kids movies can be scary because it's like well not anymore for the first time yeah like I feel like they were way better at it in like the 80s and 90s and now i mean as a kid as a kid brave little toaster has that air conditioner right that's kind

of freaking out yes yes yeah that's what i fear about turning my air conditioner on here he has literally a uh a jack nicholson inspired like conspiracy meltdown it's good he's going for it and he's doing a jack nicholson impression well guys that's uh whatever scares tim and now we've got some mail perfect yeah whatever has scared that's that's what you do after whatever scared tim opens a mail colleen writes hey sloppy boys i work as a makeup artist and my husband is a production designer, so every year we go all out for Halloween. I'm talking spirit gum, facial prosthetics, contact lenses, the whole nine. Cool. For years, we looked great but found it difficult to eat or drink at parties

until we started bringing our own collapsible straws. Just wanted to pass along our little life hack and ask if you had any other halloween party tips smart pumpkin emoji colleen i will say my halloween tip i've never done this but you know when people wear a costume that's like a pun and you have to like get it yes i hate it i think that's a move to avoid yeah don't do it yeah i'm trying to think of a good one it's like when people are like come on it's the grass is greener on the other side of the fence right that's a very common one i did a real bad one when i was like 13 i did one of those

that was this is so grossly bad i said i was serial killer, and I had a box of Cheerios around my neck, and I held a knife, and I explained it all night. Nobody laughed. My tip is to just, yeah, not explain or hold anything because that sucks, but also just I like to have my face visible because I feel like when you don't, not to name drop, but hey, I'm a Hollywood kind of a guy. This is like 10, 11 years ago. I remember I was at a party and I saw Aziz Ansari and I said, hey, man.

And I scared him because I was wearing a mask. And you see, you can't just go up to him and say and scare him. He was probably like, ah. That's exactly what he said. I mean, I wouldn't. Also, I don't know him very well, but I just worked on a thing with him, and I forgot to take my mask off.

So, folks, take the masks off. Take the mask off. Was that the same year that Dave Ferguson dressed as me? He had gotten in my room somehow and, like, got my clothing and showed up, and I was like, hey! You know what else was the funniest fucking thing was when ferguson and katie his girlfriend both dressed as superman yeah that's very funny a couple's costume where they're just just both just two supermans that's pretty good dave and katie

keep on keeping on keep Keep on trucking. Oh, yeah, I was supposed to say at the end of the mail thing. If you've got a question for the boys, email us at thesloppyboyspodcast at gmail.com. Any last words? I'll just say that I like the zombie, but I'm looking forward to the Mai Tai episode because that would be better. Yeah, hey, I'm a... Oh, here's what I want to say. We didn't mention how when we were first, when the Sloppy Boys were first a band,

we were a cover band, and one of our songs was Zombie Zoo from the late, great Tom Petty. Yeah, folks, that's an album track. You may not know it, but go listen to Zombie Zoo. It's so great. Yeah, it's a real fun one. All right, that's our show. Follow us on social follow us on social media at the sloppy boys where we release these

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